that's a shame, I like incursion
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pulsar dune
fossil mural
Lock farming back
split maple
given how they messed up access to grasping mails i am hella scared about temple mod availability if they decide on incursion #2
clear lodge
What button in game? How do you see what's listed for trade without the website
pulsar dune
/ is the default keybind
fossil mural
given how they messed up access to grasping mails i am hella scared about temple...
If they do it like poe2 and then mobs just drop items with alva mods itll be fine
split maple
especially since incursion currently feels in ok shape to me, like it has some depth once you get deeper into it than just printing locuses/doryanis
pulsar dune
IIRC I had like 50/50 doryani/locus temple bad temple
split maple
idk, last 20-30 temples or so i printed not a single one didnt have one of doryani/locus + one other room i like
pulsar dune
yea, it'd be nice if other rooms were more rewarding, but they aren't even like... actively terrible, just way less relevant than the two good ones, so they end up a bit worthless
split maple
like its pretty deterministic with technique
fossil mural
feels like i have no control over what gets built
I reallh really like new temple ngl. After all the fixes. All they need to do is for mobs to drop slightly less loot and make them scale damage
pulsar dune
yea, I use the timeline scarabs, which mess with numbers a bit
umbral crag
Idk, im doing it now coz i was hunting for locus to self corrupt stuff and not getting it a lot
pulsar dune
yea, it'd be nice if other rooms were more rewarding, but they aren't even like....
but omnitect loot is good
split maple
yea i dont ocunt timelines there, i consider that just a gamba for another good temple chance for free
spice pecan
I reallh really like new temple ngl. After all the fixes. All they need to do is...
the snake stuff looks like absolute ass to set up
fossil mural
the snake stuff looks like absolute ass to set up
People underestimate how much you drop from a small snake
So its not actually that bad
And you can easily set up alva currency in the meantime
pulsar dune
and apex of ascension is not nothing, and there is a way to get some sort of 6l in temples
spice pecan
i mean it looks about as fun as setting up betrayal board
which is uhh
Not Very Fun
fossil mural
i mean it looks about as fun as setting up betrayal board
Its a lot less convoluted and rng
Unless they fix techs
If they fix techs it will be ass
thick goblet
i mean it looks about as fun as setting up betrayal board
yeah exactly, i thought it was going to be alva, it's actually 2255 syndicate
fossil mural
Its super fast, straightforward (unless you want to giga optimize) and not rng. And you get good rewards while setting up
People complain about not getting the tiles they want, but thats because they want 1 to 1 fungoon temple
brazen vector
Yea but the rarity meta currently isn't a thing in poe
Unless you play with a rarity bot somehow
fossil mural
Yea but the rarity meta currently isn't a thing in poe
They will just replace effectiveness with quant 
And then youll be printing mbs as well
split maple
yea, it'd be nice if other rooms were more rewarding, but they aren't even like....
i mainly focus fire room, poison room, sacrifice in addition to dory/locus
pulsar dune
it's a shame that uniques are so bad in poe.
split maple
other ones are mainly if you want to target omnitect uniques
brazen vector
Id want something entirely new and not a carbon copy from poo2
fossil mural
Id want something entirely new and not a carbon copy from poo2
Why
Its a good mechanic
Unles they make it the league mechanic
brazen vector
Because why have 2 different games when they are the same in the end just one has worse graphics
fossil mural
In which case thats just lame
brazen vector
Could have just made poe2 a part of poe
fossil mural
Because why have 2 different games when they are the same in the end just one ha...
Me when they are the same games anyway?
brazen vector
OH WAIT that was the plan initially
fossil mural
Thats a really weird take
brazen vector
Me when they are the same games anyway?
They aren't, thats the thing
fossil mural
They aren't, thats the thing
What was the last time you played poe2 endgame 
fossil mural
And did you play plants druid or something
pulsar dune
how are 3p voices only 40d?
fossil mural
Because its literally the same
pulsar dune
isn't that anomalously low
brazen vector
And did you play plants druid or something
I played a reap sorceress
pulsar dune
it's a shame that uniques are so bad in poe.
it's literally just mageblood for global uniques worth over dust cost this league (obviously rolls matter, but still, holy fuck).
opaque sphinx
ok lets try it
brazen vector
@lucid kiln inherited my gear and currency
opaque sphinx
pulsar dune
gl
brazen vector
Must be someone else
fossil mural
it's literally just mageblood for global uniques worth over dust cost this leagu...
Its a shame honestly. At least in poe2 you can get extra sockets/overroll and then also an implicit, which means there is a lot of chase stuff
lucid kiln
Level 31 reap goes hard
pulsar dune
GGG has kinda been buffing some terrible uniques at least
but with every bad unique they buff, they add 3 more that are 1 alch/dust cost
frigid wedge
but with every bad unique they buff, they add 3 more that are 1 alch/dust cost
makes it a pain in the ass to find the one u want 
pulsar dune
yea, the entire global drop unique system needs a rework
it's literally just a mageblood lottery at this point
pulsar dune
valyrium is kinda based
frigid wedge
i like clicking vaals
brazen vector
Valyrium is super nice, has a special place in my heart
frigid wedge
good roll pc corrupt willclash is expensive
i genuinely get happier seeing willclash and valy than some t1 uniques tho
umbral crag
What skill are you using what
opaque sphinx
umbral crag
My int acc stacker feels squishy and ive no idea why @.@
umbral crag
Ah
frigid wedge
u have like 500m dps just replace a support
opaque sphinx
i have no supports linked to whirl
my main skill is fine cuz of woke wed
fb is fine cuz of doryani making it deal 0 dmg
but whirl deals light cuz of claws
frigid wedge
werent u acc stack
opaque sphinx
My int acc stacker feels squishy and ive no idea why @.@
click instaleech claw node
frigid wedge
yes why does that change any of this
doesnt that build socket like 8 random skills just for reave stacks
opaque sphinx
doesnt that build socket like 8 random skills just for reave stacks
what does any of that have to do with my WHIRLING BLADES killing me
umbral crag
click instaleech claw node
Over atk spd mastery?
split maple
lacro dont tell me you rly dont have instaleech
frigid wedge
that u have excess sockets that can be swapped to link brutality
to ur whirling blades
umbral crag
lacro dont tell me you rly dont have instaleech
5% from leech mastery
frigid wedge
chill tf out
umbral crag
But still squish somehow
opaque sphinx
i am chill i was trying to highlight the WB part
i dont have random sockets that do nothing
opaque sphinx
But still squish somehow
yes take thee claw one
look ur ES leech without it
then look it with it
frigid wedge
so u dont have hydrosphere or a separate vaal reave gem
opaque sphinx
do u want to triple ur leech or have 10% more dps
opaque sphinx
so u dont have hydrosphere or a separate vaal reave gem
no?
umbral crag
do u want to triple ur leech or have 10% more dps
Thats fair
umbral crag
No more big pp dmg
opaque sphinx
i swapped to ls of arcing for the map anyway cuz of reduced aoe mod
tawdry olive
Es leech with claw mastery doesn’t work. The mod assigned is life_leech_%_is_instant_per_equipped_claw
Take the regular leech mastery for 5% instead, it’s good enough
frigid wedge
i still feel like u probably have a low value link group or smth u could replace easily
opaque sphinx
Es leech with claw mastery doesn’t work. The mod assigned is life_leech_%_is_ins...
but ur life leech is converted to es leech ?
spice pecan
javascript error got awakened stuck and frozen on my screen, never seen this before
tawdry olive
but ur life leech is converted to es leech ?
Ghost reaver? Maybe that gets around it
opaque sphinx
with the node it says 12k
spice pecan
tawdry olive
If you’re using ghost reaver it may work
opaque sphinx
wait what
umbral crag
Yeah
frigid wedge
es leech support time?
umbral crag
Stormdrinker
tawdry olive
Storm drinker yea
opaque sphinx
oh the fuck
frigid wedge
imagien not using 3 12 passive clusters
umbral crag
imagien not using 3 12 passive clusters
I am tho
opaque sphinx
valid
umbral crag
Im using 4 cluster
tawdry olive
imagien not using 3 12 passive clusters
Megalos baby
opaque sphinx
damn look at this level 100 guy over here
umbral crag
damn look at this level 100 guy over here
97 kek
umbral crag
Not a 12p 4th cluster
frigid wedge
icl i havent played the int acc stack
opaque sphinx
need to run double purity and get 20% aura eff for this whack doryani setup
i mean i dont really need the 20% but like its +1 max res hell yeah
shit i never finished the map i got distracted typing here
umbral crag
Mine is hella padded kekw
frigid wedge
int stack was already a boring archetype to me bc theres literally no puzzle, u just get int and attack speed, int acc jugg has even less to think about bc now the ONLY stat u realistically need is int so like
bleh
opaque sphinx
@split maple u dont actually do the ulti in this setup right
opaque sphinx
int stack was already a boring archetype to me bc theres literally no puzzle, u ...
WI 😄
umbral crag
Maybe i should drop thr atk spd mastery for leech
tawdry olive
int stack was already a boring archetype to me bc theres literally no puzzle, u ...
More int, big brain, big damage, big happy
split maple
<@1172237022740615199> u dont actually do the ulti in this setup right
no, its just for scarb bias
opaque sphinx
thought so ty
umbral crag
https://pobb.in/S3HlbYmI2XHy
Mine is hella padded kekw
@split maple we've scaled. Just squishy kek
opaque sphinx
Maybe i should drop thr atk spd mastery for leech
yes
also put fortify in ur main links u pob baiter
tawdry olive
The good news is int/acc stack is definitely not surviving this league there is just no way
umbral crag
Only reason why i built it this league in the end
split maple
<@1172237022740615199> we've scaled. Just squishy kek
idk this sorta builds always feels a tad squishy to me if you arent rushing maps
since if you dont have leech target you dont have recovery
spice pecan
The good news is int/acc stack is definitely not surviving this league there is ...
why tho? it's like prohibitively expensive
i think herald stack is probably on the chopping block more than intstack jugg tbh
umbral crag
since if you dont have leech target you dont have recovery
Only source is vaal discipline if i remember to click it
frigid wedge
More int, big brain, big damage, big happy
yeah it might be the most brainless multi bil dps build ive ever seen, and considering it stacks intel thats just sad
split maple
heraldstack will get tripletaped, while they wont need to nerf accustacker if claws dont go core, it will be just dead
frigid wedge
nerfing heralds kills so many builds honestly
split maple
i think hive wont be surviving in current shape
opaque sphinx
bruh
split maple
maybe also some numerical nerf to pbod
frigid wedge
i hope at most herald of the hive might lose herald tag
opaque sphinx
ur IC is not on cwdt either
spice pecan
is this global 1
opaque sphinx
smh
dapper fractal
yeah
umbral crag
ur IC is not on cwdt either
I tried but no significant diff between cwdt and automation for me
frigid wedge
maybe also some numerical nerf to pbod
pbod has been king for caster for so long that i doubt they care anymore
opaque sphinx
oh didnt see the auto im blind
frigid wedge
killing pbod just continues to stab sanctum runners in the leg
split maple
would be kinda funny if they nerfed pbod not because of pbod builds but because of autobomber with single target aspirations
pulsar dune
I'm down for another sanctum meta shakeup
But really, just give casters literally any other spells to use
frigid wedge
I'm down for another sanctum meta shakeup
yay lets kill the entire reason div price used to be low even more
split maple
But really, just give casters literally any other spells to use
fross
opaque sphinx
tawdry olive
would be kinda funny if they nerfed pbod not because of pbod builds but because ...
Fire trap nerfs be like
opaque sphinx
glove like this are cheap and give u lot more es from ur disc
frigid wedge
where crit
pulsar dune
yay lets kill the entire reason div price used to be low even more
I doubt sanctum is a meaningful bit of divs these days.
opaque sphinx
where crit
too expensive and this is needed for the purity levels
frigid wedge
lmao
opaque sphinx
i guess not really needed, but more max res more good
tawdry olive
Kira is cooking some completely disgusting shit he’s not following the usual template
umbral crag
Yeah I'm just trying to self corrupt mine till i hit smth usable
opaque sphinx
these are like 50c tho
umbral crag
these are like 50c tho
Self corrupt 😠
tawdry olive
Fortify tattoo works for mapping
umbral crag
ok fine but at least put fortify on ur main links
Have it on whirl + tats
pulsar dune
You can only stuns Ubers once per 4s
Or well, they are stun immune if they were stunned (as in playing the stun animation) recently
opaque sphinx
4s is long enough for fort
umbral crag
How do you keeo your spec alive
spice pecan
How do you keeo your spec alive
by not running one
opaque sphinx
yh i have one of those i swap to for reave
cant decide if that or frenzy on hit is better
i think frenzy for blight/bosses but lucky for mapping
tawdry olive
how hard do i need to hit to stun an uber
You kinda don’t, at least you don’t rely on tattoo fortify for that, you do enough damage that fortify doesn’t matter and you kill the boss in .5 seconds
It’s mainly mapping where it shines
tawdry olive
Just int acc stack things
umbral crag
i just think they are bait
They're mostly fine except harby maps since they dont die kek
tawdry olive
- Doryani for good measure
opaque sphinx
frigid wedge
nice one
tawdry olive
What no pof sublime does to a mf
frigid wedge
ur tincture still makes me sad
partly bc ur using pen tincture with doryanis and partly bc its a crit tincture and ur nor using 35 inc effect mod
opaque sphinx
frigid wedge
why are u putting t6 on
opaque sphinx
oh it doesnt apply the inc eff
frigid wedge
u achievement hunting
worldly bridge
i was indeed
frigid wedge
also i get that ur cc prob needs it but is still upsets me
opaque sphinx
or does it apply the inc eff
tawdry olive
Achievement hunting requires me to play hardcore
frigid wedge
that u use a crit one
tawdry olive
Miss me with that
frigid wedge
or does it apply the inc eff
it ruins ur uptime when u select minroll t6 prefix
so dont select minroll t6 prefix
opaque sphinx
yeh but im just trying to get it to get the numbers right atm
frigid wedge
yeah ur dps isnt gonna be fine bc a quarter of ur crit is ur tincture
it just makes me rlly upset
is pen actually worth it when everything has -200 res tho
opaque sphinx
it still scales decently just not as hard as multi
is one of the reasons omni was so good
pen is 2nd highest scaler after multi
at least iirc
i STILL never finished the map
dont smoke and check discord
oh neat
frigid wedge
u do know tinctures can have melee crit multi
opaque sphinx
frigid wedge
u do know tinctures can have melee crit multi
up to 33 without inc effect
opaque sphinx
yes but i am lazy
and im not actually 100% its better
cuz pob doesnt apply qual/inc eff
umbral crag
Doesnt the 35% already reflect on the tincture value itself
So its just whatever the tincture value is
opaque sphinx
not when u create it in pob
umbral crag
Just math it
opaque sphinx
lazy
umbral crag
i am in moneymaking mood not math mood
When do u switch between ls and reave
opaque sphinx
reave+woke aoe for general mapping, LS+gmp for blight/reduced aoe maps, mamba+nightblade for bosses
umbral crag
Aoe with pulverise or just aoe for reave?
opaque sphinx
just aoe
opaque sphinx
i find with woke aoe and vaal reave u dont actually need pulverize unless ur tryna do blight
but in that case LS is just better
frigid wedge
i should be playing pohx League but i be playn Minecraft
thick goblet
i should be playing pohx League but i be playn Minecraft
are u gonna play hytale
pulsar dune
Main thing I'm tempted to do is build a golden charlatan build tbh
But IDK if I want it enough to actually put together a Poe build
opaque sphinx
the fuck im p sure i got like 10% xp from that map too
i cant remember if i was at 0 or not
frigid wedge
are u gonna play hytale
hahahaha no
fossil mural
Main thing I'm tempted to do is build a golden charlatan build tbh
The lamest part is how you basically have to play spells
opaque sphinx
why cant u do like flicker or smth
pulsar dune
golden charlaten is a pretty dogshit 2h sword
and attacks that can't cheat their flat somehow are thus unusable
I wonder if you could make like... ele hit work
opaque sphinx
flicker cheats their flat with cold per frenzy
umbral crag
My biggest drop from harby was 2x awakening, 1x pandemonium, 1x containment, 1x preservation
Pretty nutty map
Never again tho HAHAH
pulsar dune
tho frenzies will be annoying since you can't go farrul
frigid wedge
@thick goblet i aint dealing with hypixel again
i played 2.3k hours of their awful skyblock and hated every moment of at least 1.5k hours of it
when the first thing ppl say when someone asks how to start playing it is dont
pulsar dune
hm, ppl apparently do chaos convert spark with it
umbral crag
Pleasant surprise
frigid wedge
it gives me poor expectations for their other games
frigid wedge
hm, ppl apparently do chaos convert spark with it
ppl use spark and ek primarily
spice pecan
Pleasant surprise <:kek:1045021806144262244>
frigid wedge
ek is preferred for most stuff bc proj speed
frigid wedge
mhm
spice pecan
i wish EK was reasonably league startable
opaque sphinx
it is now
spice pecan
remove rolling magma, buff EK when ggg
opaque sphinx
with assa
spice pecan
why do it on assassin tho
brazen vector
ermagerda verd bertery
Meme reset in full action
spice pecan
it's phys, so it can already poison
opaque sphinx
all dam poison, gain as extra
spice pecan
gain as extra on spells is kinda weak no?
opaque sphinx
¿
spice pecan
at least compared to attacks
split maple
gain as extra on phys is kinda strong man
opaque sphinx
its the main way u scale ek
pulsar dune
is there any source of attack-specific gain as extra?
spice pecan
is there any source of attack-specific gain as extra?
weapon elemental damage is mostly what i meant
split maple
weapon elemental damage is mostly what i meant
how is that related to gain as extra tho?
spice pecan
it's the closest thing for spells
i dunno, my brain makes a connection that is hard to put into words
opaque sphinx
but ye gain as extra is good, u can also just play it crit
with sandstorm and pcharge node
pulsar dune
I'd trust EK leveling tbh
pulsar dune
I have no idea what you are talking about mythik. We're talking about things like hatred, herald of ash, ele weakness balance of terror
spice pecan
I have no idea what you are talking about mythik. We're talking about things lik...
don't worry about it
i was talking about added damage to spells on weapon but whatever
opaque sphinx
yeh that is weak
but gain as extra + gem level is good
spell have high base so gain is extra strong
early on u can just use dual princess + heatshiver + hatred
and hrimsorrow
pulsar dune
dual wield CIP with entropic devastation surely.
opaque sphinx
cip is no ele dmg no?
spice pecan
correct
apparently tho you can still use oriath's end with CIP
which is really funny
pulsar dune
yea I was thinking about clicking this fucking thing
but cast speed is probably not happening
so it'd suck to play
spice pecan
if using ek of massacre i think you kind of need some cast speed
pulsar dune
yea gloomfang is big
tender palm
@daring jungle Bro I been pouncing every unique I see but I still only get 6/7 wolves
My small brain is confused
opaque sphinx
i rebound portal to b and i still press i and right click it anyway send help
tawdry olive
Takes a bit of time to get used to it
Just like identify all
And then you get so used to it, you use it on an inventory with voices after a simu
spice pecan
i rebound portal to b and i still press i and right click it anyway send help
shift-T is the way
ancient ingot
Anyone know why molten shell will not work with automation?
spice pecan
Anyone know why molten shell will not work with automation?
do you have the mana for molten shell to actually be cast
and have you turned automation on
pulsar dune
if you are in HO, automation doesn't activate
spice pecan
also yeah it doesn't activate in hideout
tawdry olive
Herald of the hive does though, ask me how I know
opaque sphinx
yeah im legit getting 10% xp per map at 97 with this harbi beyond invasion setup wtf
tawdry olive
yeah im legit getting 10% xp per map at 97 with this harbi beyond invasion setup...
Even at level 99 it’s 3% per map
If you fast that’s like 6 min per map
It’s absurd
opaque sphinx
what the helly
compact bronze
can i still level up a corrupted gem?
tawdry olive
I leveled to 100 with 2 characters and was on the way to a 3rd before Pohx league dropped
opaque sphinx
can i still level up a corrupted gem?
yes
ancient ingot
It was hide out tyvm
opaque sphinx
opaque sphinx
send help i pressed vls
opaque sphinx
does it take longer? or just same
same
compact bronze
thanks
opaque sphinx
anyone have a semi up to date list on scarabs worth vendoring
i never really trust ninja on actual prices its slow to update
but i guess i could give it a try
valid
heady cliff
anyone have a semi up to date list on scarabs worth vendoring
faustus at the evening, list of scarabs and 20-30 minutes of your time
sorry but until faustus starts to appear on trade site, this is the only way
spice pecan
approximately one billion
opaque sphinx
ik the first one is like 10% but it has diminishing returns i just dunno how bad they dim
fossil mural
ik the first one is like 10% but it has diminishing returns i just dunno how bad...
Shouldnt wiki have info
opaque sphinx
idk i ask here first cuz its open and check there if nobody answers
fossil mural
Maybe do the opposite
meager ridge
whats the diff between these?
umbral crag
whats the diff between these?
I mean.. the difference is written there?
tranquil sedge
one is a notable and one is a mastery
umbral crag
Unless youre asking what duration and cooldown recovery means
tranquil sedge
or are you asking if those two stack?
meager ridge
or are you asking if those two stack?
yeah, basically whats the reason to take both
split maple
Clear
worldly jungle
when is the new league?
tranquil sedge
when is the new league?
spice pecan
yeah, basically whats the reason to take both
4 additional brands
opaque sphinx
proxy shield + goatman = feelsbad
its the overlapping proxy shields thats whack
muh xp
tender palm
any good =o?
spice pecan
wrong game
tender palm
I just corrupted it and added 3rd socket otherwise it is ground loot from temple lol
opaque sphinx
how r u supposed to kill anything when every proxy shield venn diagrams 5 ways 
tender palm
No way this is right?
tender palm
I hate poe1 with a passion sorry, PEACE OUT
tranquil sedge
I hate poe1 with a passion sorry, PEACE OUT
nobody missed you either that's okay
tender palm
I try to enjoy poe1 I just can't
Something about the socket system rubs my brain the wrong way and makes me wanna chunk my pc out the window around the 3 hour mark every single time I've tried playing it since it launched
tawdry olive
average blight map btw
opaque sphinx
nah blight i hella get worse cuz im shitty at micromanaging them into overlaps
frigid wedge
nice
brazen vector
Something about the socket system rubs my brain the wrong way and makes me wanna...
Keep trying
tranquil sedge
Something about the socket system rubs my brain the wrong way and makes me wanna...
i mean up to you we're not gonna tell u wat to enjoy lol
but poe2 sockets aren't much better, having to six link each skill gem individually instead
wanna try a new gem? oops time to relink
tawdry olive
best socket system be like
tranquil sedge
sockets in poe1 are also basically a non-issue in any build after like one or two days of playing, the cost of recoloring or relinking is kinda not relevant anymore after that for the most part*
tender palm
sockets in poe1 are also basically a non-issue in any build after like one or tw...
Yea people told me this but I never got to that stage apparently
I get to where I have a full set of gear, socket some skills into it then spend 2-3 hours not replacing anything and looking at every piece of gear and it isn't useable, then I get bored and quit
I try to enjoy it like actually but =/
tranquil sedge
for up to 5 links that stage is like early maps, maybe mid maps
6 links is the moment ur making more than like couple divs/hr tops
tender palm
I have 200+ hours in like chronomancer for instance and a bunch of other indie ARPGs
the fact I can't get hours into poe1 is kinda funny tbh lmao
tranquil sedge
i think u just need to figure out how to get over that common hump ur describing
tender palm
I don't really like to have to "push through" stuff in a game
The progress curve in poe1 just gets stale to me really fast, like 2 hours in not even deep lol
Idk if I ever even killed the first act boss
spice pecan
bruh
tender palm
It's just boring to me idk what to tell you I can't make my brain enjoy things it doesn't xD
tranquil sedge
okay yea none of what i said is even remotely applicable then campaign is like the starting point
yea fair enough just enjoy poe2 ig 😛
tender palm
I've had people tell me if I stick to it for a few days I can recolor my sockets which would help my issue but I can't know that ahead of time lmao
tranquil sedge
the progress curve early is just level up and wear whatever random shit u find that looks like it might have kinda okay colors and keep going on
umbral crag
Its fine if the game doesnt appeal to you in the end haha
tranquil sedge
I've had people tell me if I stick to it for a few days I can recolor my sockets...
everybody wears whatever shit they find in the first couple acts
like yea nobody has money to recolor stuff in act 1 or 2 at leaguestart
tender palm
Yea it's just the loot is boring as fuck like immediately
tranquil sedge
u just buy the gear from vendors or gamblers or whatever
tender palm
Usually in an arpg you are equipping new stuff constantly as you level and every item is like "oh shiny what's this can I use it?"
in poe1 you're just like oh it's another...5 multi color wtf ever base item I can't do shit with
awesome, very exciting
tranquil sedge
okay but how do you not find the same issue in poe2 then
you cannot meaningfully craft anything that early on there either
you're still just picking up and wearing whatever random shit you get that may be an incremental upgrade
spice pecan
getting a 6 link with the correct colors in poe1 is much easier than getting a 6 link at all in poe2 tbh
and you need like 5 six links
tender palm
Idk in poe2 you're immediately upgrading via orbs and you don't have to make your skills fit into every single new item you get while leveling
tranquil sedge
immediately upgrading via orbs
perhaps elaborate a lil on that
tender palm
You start using aug/trans/ex and can just keep the item if it's good you don't have to worry about upgrading to ANOTHER good item with the same color scheme
By like level 10-15 in poe1 you feel locked into whatever you're wearing and nothing that drops is exciting
spice pecan
i mean we use augs, transmutes, and alchs all the time too
tranquil sedge
You start using aug/trans/ex and can just keep the item if it's good you don't h...
why do you think poe1 is different in that regard
if u find a good item in campaign in act 3 you can still use it for several acts later lol
literally the only requirements campaign has of players is some life and resistances
spice pecan
you can also replace it within like 2 zones too
tranquil sedge
you can finish act 10 on a 4-link on your main skill
and whatever gear you find in an act, two acts later you'll be finding the same or better without problems
tender palm
Yea but the gear is boring, trying to find the right combo of socket colors is tedious and unfun, the loot isn't exciting in the early game like at all
tranquil sedge
like i guarantee you whoever gave you the impression that u gotta worry about socket colors and links that much is dead wrong
split maple
game is balanced around 84link
tranquil sedge
it is something to keep in mind but u forget it pretty fast
split maple
but okay if you dont like playing suduko with gear sockets ig poe1 isnt for you, fair enough
tender palm
like i guarantee you whoever gave you the impression that u gotta worry about so...
I'm not under the impression of anything, I play the game and loot becomes unfun unrewarding and tedious within 2 hours and I put the game down, 20x times over the years
Literally every indie arpg I've ever played has more fun loot than poe1 has in the early game idk what to say lol
split maple
a1 is a tad tedious since you dont have movement skills and shite yet
tranquil sedge
aight i can't say anything about that xd
split maple
but like with experience it gets better and most folks dont consider campaign like part of the game at all
tranquil sedge
but if you give it a shot again at some point maybe get someone in a call with you to speed things up a bit even just by directing you around or whatever
split maple
just a lil chore before you can play
tender palm
It sucks cuz I've listened to and watched vids on poe1 endgame a TON over the years lol
But I literally can't fucking force myself to sit down and play through act 1
silent leaf
you can finish act 10 on a 4-link on your main skill
I wanna say 25% of people just outright use 4 links for 2 stones
tawdry olive
earthshatter gaming
tranquil sedge
I wanna say 25% of people just outright use 4 links for 2 stones
the gold gamba vendors made getting 5 links pretty easy now tbh
spice pecan
act 1 is kind of the longest/slowest act
split maple
the gold gamba vendors made getting 5 links pretty easy now tbh
i still feel stupid af for pobing 4link earthshatter for 4voids this league, then getting 6l in like a7
umbral crag
I do agree act 1 is the most annoying acts, just push past that of you could ig
tranquil sedge
i still feel stupid af for pobing 4link earthshatter for 4voids this league, the...
pob'ing it isn't useless 6 link mana costs still gotta be solved
split maple
what mana costs with slammer tree like you have 4 mana and its enough
tranquil sedge
lol
silent leaf
SRS, bleed, RF lmao, etc
umbral crag
Most ppl after a while blast act 1 in 30min or less to get it over woth kekw
silent leaf
I do agree act 1 is the most annoying acts, just push past that of you could ig
1-3 is a fucking slog
brazen vector
game is balanced around ~~8~~4link
Real, relic of the pact is a 4 link
brazen vector
relic of the pact can be a 7 link
Lifestacker kinda want a rathpit or whatever the lifestacking shield is called
spice pecan
rathpith globe yeah
brazen vector
And they really dont have sockets to get rid of skills that are typically in the shield
frigid wedge
Lifestacker kinda want a rathpit or whatever the lifestacking shield is called
thats why i said its prob worse
brazen vector
thats why i said its prob worse
Definitely worse unless i miss something
frigid wedge
nah ur prob not im just mentioning it technically CAN
brazen vector
nah ur prob not im just mentioning it technically CAN
Every skill can be a 7link then with the breach amulet
technically
frigid wedge
lmao
brazen vector
frigid wedge
Every skill can be a 7link then with the breach amulet
abberaths fury
tranquil sedge
Every skill can be a 7link then with the breach amulet
idk this is what my endgame character wears
snake world champion btw
hoary scarab
did somebody say snake
brazen vector
idk this is what my endgame character wears
That made me nauseous
frigid wedge
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/GuruubazSkykrewe-0084/character/SillyGobbyGoober
...
why u got lifetap on frostblink
brazen vector
abberaths fury
Its a furry, yea
umbral crag
1-3 is a fucking slog
2 feels fine imo. 3 is bad but not act 1 bad HAHA
brazen vector
why u got lifetap on frostblink
So I can go frostblink for the lifetap buff that gives relic more spell damage
frigid wedge
couldn't u just use relic tho
brazen vector
No!
silent leaf
2 is still a fucking slog imo
brazen vector
bc ur relic already has tap in it
Can't get the lifetap buff from relic as its not spending life, its reserving
spice pecan
remove the quest pls GGG
what
silent leaf
just make us do the act boss for passive points
spice pecan
oh
silent leaf
instead of fucking going back and forth
brazen vector
silent leaf
finding bullshit in layouts that are shit
silent leaf
no
brazen vector
what, you don't like going to crossroads 3 times?
PoE2 maps will give Blazar an aneurysm xd
silent leaf
spice pecan
it looked like ps1 hagrid + gigachad for a second
i just remembered that that merit of service shield that was bugged and drop disabled in 0.3 is still not back in poo2
lol
frigid wedge
surely theres smth with similar cost multi to lifetap that fits
brazen vector
surely theres smth with similar cost multi to lifetap that fits
Lmk if you find something
split maple
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/GuruubazSkykrewe-0084/character/SillyGobbyGoober
...
funny how hard 20-30 flat hits
brazen vector
funny how hard 20-30 flat hits
Yea, relic is funky
Where are you all seeing yourself?
spice pecan
i'm far right for normal and cruel lab, and right in the middle for merc/uber
spice pecan
top right
silent leaf
"up right"
brazen vector
ppl use aoe support tho
You get a bazillion AoE already
umbral crag
Wow rich share pls
brazen vector
"up right"
Just say "north"
frigid wedge
You get a bazillion AoE already
yeah i just couldn't find another
silent leaf
Just say "north"
ew
brazen vector
ew
https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-dance-cat-dancing-psych-ward-white-room-gif-7934138772560080564
spice pecan
thats not a glorp
spice pecan
who is this impostor
brazen vector
There
elfin shale
Is wand impale anything
brazen vector
It is a thing
tight plinth
is it?
spice pecan
uhh, doesn't kb champ do impale stuff
elfin shale
I started twink leveling a witch for Kinetic Rain of Impact but i kinda didnt plan anything and im just winging it
Trying to decide how to scale
opaque sphinx
elfin shale
Probably not impale i just like it
opaque sphinx
oh thanks tree
frigid wedge
crusader exalt it
elfin shale
Im thinking i go pure phys wand, Hatred + gain as lightning on tree for Trinity
opaque sphinx
why crusader
frigid wedge
% int
opaque sphinx
thats hunter tho
frigid wedge
why the fuck
split maple
Yea, relic is funky
ig i just have to drop 94% adorned
brazen vector
ig i just have to drop 94% adorned
If you go for the scion version, yea
frigid wedge
man wtf
brazen vector
The c in GGG is for consistency
brazen vector
spice pecan
brazen vector
idk how i feel about the bodysuit tho
What
meager ridge
does this node mean rings/amulets or socketable jewels?
frigid wedge
jewels
opaque sphinx
does it say rings amulets
brazen vector
her butt out
Let girls (glorps) have fun
opaque sphinx
or jewels
frigid wedge
Let girls (glorps) have fun
yeah obviously, but i dont rlly get the choice
brazen vector
yeah obviously, but i dont rlly get the choice
Why would you want to have a choice over someone else's choice of clothes?
meager ridge
I just put 10 ancient wombgifts and got 0 jewels and 4 amulets
frigid wedge
Why would you want to have a choice over someone else's choice of clothes?
what
no i mean i dont understand the choice
silent leaf
I just put 10 ancient wombgifts and got 0 jewels and 4 amulets
cause all jewels are high rarity
frigid wedge
ig its bc Merryweather is merryweather and she doesnt care
brazen vector
no i mean i dont understand the choice
Oh, its simple sexualisation on the Internet
frigid wedge
Oh, its simple sexualisation on the Internet
i mean its a merryweather comic, that's a given
brazen vector
Idk merryeeayhee
split maple
I just put 10 ancient wombgifts and got 0 jewels and 4 amulets
global drop jewels are all t1.5
with optimal tree (so reduced dex, str, int, increased jewels) you can expect 1 per 20-25 ancients
they just rare 
silent leaf
prob 0
tranquil sedge
no way of knowing that
silent leaf
they deleted everything else previously
tranquil sedge
literally any answer is going to be a blind guess
tight plinth
i hope it goes core 🙏
silent leaf
yea i fucking wish it goes core too
tight plinth
everything, just to piss off people
silent leaf
soulthrist actually good now
spice pecan
foulborn embalmer gloves, explode berek, rathpith, so many cool items
silent leaf
also FB Inspired learnings
put 4 of them in 2 clusters and you get free mini headhunter
while being able to use belts
tight plinth
hive should be a separate instance tho, i mean like a breachstone
silent leaf
i wish it survives, means i can abuse the living fuck out of this on next builds
split maple
foulborn kikazaru mmm
frigid wedge
i wish it survives, means i can abuse the living fuck out of this on next builds
doing what
silent leaf
doing what
70s souleater on demand
what else
with mostly like 20 passive points as the downside
frigid wedge
ay
spice pecan
fighting with wardloopers for those
silent leaf
On ssf
tight plinth
hax
tranquil sedge
Id be surprised if they let all these foulborns go
they put the effort into phrecia and they don't even care enough to release that even as a private league
limber sedge
tranquil sedge
nothing's guaranteed lol
limber sedge
Conner makes some valid points
spice pecan
yeah, i agree with him
spice pecan
they put the effort into phrecia and they don't even care enough to release that...
the frustrating as fuck part is that we had free phrecia PL options for the remainder of settlers after phrecia ended
so phrecia PL assets/templates literally already exist
tranquil sedge
the frustrating as fuck part is that we had free phrecia PL options for the rema...
tinfoil hat theory is its to make poe2 look good
spice pecan
and they deliberately choose not to give us access
tranquil sedge
and they deliberately choose not to give us access
to avoid having any potential playerbase spend time there instead
spice pecan
but then why would they fund a pohx PL at all in the first place, i dunno
tranquil sedge
but then why would they fund a pohx PL at all in the first place, i dunno
because i bet 3.27 fell off too badly even for them
and pohx is their hail mary
again all tinfoil hat
spice pecan
i mean, they had to have known that the shit they did with the early 0.4 drop was going to do that, but yeah
tranquil sedge
but convenient enough as an explanation that im willing to consider it a possibility yep
restive nova
which one is better to take guys ?
in pob its showing way higher damage with with Dire Strike but elemental values are not changing in pob, idk if its bug or its showing correctly
tranquil sedge
show ur pob
spice pecan
well the second one is like specifically for a dex stacker, no?
tranquil sedge
what elemental values are not changing?
yea like thats clearly a dex stacking bow
its not impossible for there to be a dex breakpoint where its just better to use
restive nova
show ur pob
restive nova
what elemental values are not changing?
if i swap out i dont see any change here, just total dps i see difference
tranquil sedge
those are incoming max hits, how much u can tank
u would not expect them to change for the most part
spice pecan
the scourge bow should actually reduce the lightning max hit because of the 6% increased lightning damage taken scourge mod lol
fucking krangled items man
brazen vector
I.miss scourge and I havent even played it :s
restive nova
so dire strike to take
tranquil sedge
and wratch fletch looks like its more damage in pob without changing anything else
am i missing something?
what kind of bow is best for ur build anyway
blast rain deadeye?
restive nova
left side change to elemental hit of spctrum
pulsar dune
it§s ehots
tranquil sedge
oh
undone gazelle
ehots deadeye, gotta go with proj speed and atk speed
tranquil sedge
okay dire strike is more dps then nvm
restive nova
lossing 1.3k elemental flat and still more with dire
% will scale a lot more later then
pulsar dune
ehots does have a lot of flat on the gem
tranquil sedge
im just looking at number in pob but ye
restive nova
just found out today that i could find items with pob
tranquil sedge
you also gain back 165 to 275 ish cold flat too
restive nova
else i was just manually searching all the time with dps
tranquil sedge
just found out today that i could find items with pob
did u find these with pob
restive nova
did u find these with pob
other items manual find in trade site, just 2 bows in found in pob today
tranquil sedge
i feel like first step is u should be figuring out what is theoretically the best bow for your build
before jumping to pob
tranquil sedge
sure thats because its a good combination of crit and attack speed
but yea standard can mess things up a bit
but base is just one thing
what mods are desirable
pulsar dune
usually high end bow builds want to go phys bow as well
tranquil sedge
do u need additional arrows, are u gonna be scaling dex more at endgame, are u converting phys to elemental ^ etc.
restive nova
right now i have 30 div, need to farm more
tranquil sedge
coz even with crucible tree weapons there's still gonna be a variety of stuff
pulsar dune
but then you kinda also need mirror quiver for conversion so that your gloves are sane, etc.
restive nova
oh one more, pob doesnt find unique items ?
tranquil sedge
idk never used pob to find stuff for me tbh
tranquil sedge
right now i have 30 div, need to farm more
ye just think about wat kinda bow ur build best benefits from then while u farm
and u can do manual searches afterwards based on that too, to get more options
pulsar dune
POB goes by stats, so it won't look at any stats the unique has that can't be on a rare
but it would find a soul taker for example
restive nova
i tried but shows rare only, some unquies can be better but pob search doesnt show
pulsar dune
it's pretty good, but yea, won't find uniques
not that good unique bows exist at your level of investment
undone gazelle
https://pobb.in/Cycbw7muzhb6
if you're stacking farshot+fledgeing then you could try a 8 point cluster with feed the fury and arcing shot
restive nova
not only bows, i was looking for helmet or armor, but it only shows rares
restive nova
if you're stacking farshot+fledgeing then you could try a 8 point cluster with f...
i have another medium cluster with arcing shot and agent of destruction, so few more levels to get them
restive nova
doesnt find hyrris also
pulsar dune
(tho maybe it sets non-unique only)
restive nova
i dont see option for non uniques, i will check again
pulsar dune
anyway, for uniques you can just sort in the big unique listing
restive nova
thank you
spice pecan
conner ends up being right a lot of the time i think
silent leaf
yep
he says lightning will be meta 0.4 in poe2 like 0.1 - 0.3
seeing from ninja, thats true
tranquil sedge
he says lightning will be meta 0.4 in poe2 like 0.1 - 0.3
whatever goes brrr
silent leaf
kinda wish they hire more devs but i heard they are paying fucking peanuts
tranquil sedge
kinda wish they hire more devs but i heard they are paying fucking peanuts
they ran out of excuses for not having devs a long time ago
oh its newzealand oh their salaries oh blah blah blah who cares lol as a player
ur a company with money and ur not hiring people if u need them thats ur problem not players'
split pagoda
i havent watched the vid but it does seem like they are basically releasing poe1 3months into poe2 league so the new poe2 league launches a month after poe1
tranquil sedge
they're not some two bit indie studio that u gotta accept its a passion project of a few devs and shit goes haywire constantly is the expectation
they're basically a triple A arpg studio at this point
and they basically set their own standards with poe1 anyway
split pagoda
poe2 new league gonna be early april ig
tranquil sedge
i havent watched the vid but it does seem like they are basically releasing poe1...
pretty much what connor's saying yea
the 1 month 3 month possibility
tight plinth
who needs more than a month anyway
tranquil sedge
especially the wrong way around
elfin shale
This league launched like Oct 28th didnt it? By early march i assumed they meant the first week, which while a bit of a delay would track wouldnt it
spice pecan
i tend to play more than a month
spice pecan
This league launched like Oct 28th didnt it? By early march i assumed they meant...
oct 31, it was halloween
tranquil sedge
if the only things ur able to say are troll takes why even bother typing
tight plinth
yeah but its not like poe1 gets shutdown when poe2 league is up
spice pecan
no but we stop getting content from content creators because they are required to play poo2
tranquil sedge
yea its not like the game has an economy that requires an active playerbase to play
its not like patches stop coming in for one game when they work on the other game
its not like content creators drag away more players too ^
yea can't be any of that that people are worried about no
tight plinth
so?
tranquil sedge
so?
so perhaps if you thought about why people don't like the possible timeline you might be able to understand it
karmic gust
i dont think any of that matters except the developers not fixing the league
and that part is definitely an issue
silent leaf
no but we stop getting content from content creators because they are required t...
the fucking funniest part is raxx saying that
If you are an adult with a job
and its on a sunday and you are playing poe2
karmic gust
economy is already mostly dead 1 month in
silent leaf
you are praying that the day is just finished
so you can go back to work on monday
tranquil sedge
i dont think any of that matters except the developers not fixing the league
i dont get the all-or-nothing mentality yea
karmic gust
and noone cares about poe content creators for the actual league numbers
tranquil sedge
like why do patches for one game just stop when they switch to the other
its not like the other game ceased to exist
silent leaf
and noone cares about poe content creators for the actual league numbers
yea they just do it cause it brings them money
tranquil sedge
they're on what, hotfix 26 or some shit on poe2 now
where were the 26 hotfixes for poe1
???
silent leaf
some of them are forced to play it
split maple
i get why there wouldnt be content/balance changes etc, but like at least fix boss fights rendering lol
tranquil sedge
and noone cares about poe content creators for the actual league numbers
it can influence players to play one specific game (tho sure that goes both ways for poe1 or poe2)
elfin shale
Just divine it
tranquil sedge
im not saying its the main factor, but it adds up
silent leaf
i remember carn also saying it but its more along the lines of if you have work and if you want a game that respects your time, better not play this
or smth like that
tranquil sedge
like if u went to twitch and every single poe streamer was only on poe2 you might feel like oh that's where everyone's at lets give it a go
even if u like both games
tranquil sedge
the fucking funniest part is raxx saying that
If you are an adult with a job
these are the same streamers who hyped up the game a lot lol cba with their slow takes
silent leaf
ben went back to poe1 lmao
tranquil sedge
none of this is unforeseen territory, esp. not to people like them who make it a parttime or fulltime job to know the game and make money off it
split pagoda
main thing I care about is how good the league is and if they actually have time to cook. Which it doesnt seem like they do rn. I very rarely play more than like 3 weeks on leaguestart tbh
silent leaf
or rather, he goes back to DI
split pagoda
thats what worries me about poe1 rn after 3.27
spice pecan
or rather, he goes back to DI
no shot ben plays dphone
split maple
contentwise breach was kinda barebones
split pagoda
the one positive thing I heard is apparently they have a small dedicated poe1 team now
which would be good
silent leaf
the one positive thing I heard is apparently they have a small dedicated poe1 te...
TWO. INTERNS.
ONE. CUSTOMER. SERVICE
ancient sorrel
Is there a good way to take advantage of having no ES outside broken faith shield?
elfin shale
TWO. INTERNS.
+1 janitor
split pagoda
silent leaf
ONE. TRADE. MAINTAINENCE.
tranquil sedge
the one positive thing I heard is apparently they have a small dedicated poe1 te...
and the one guy who runs the website
pulsar dune
Is there a good way to take advantage of having no ES outside broken faith shiel...
spirit drinker
tranquil sedge
salute that man/woman
split maple
no shot ben plays dphone
prolly on one hand while heisting on the other lol
elfin shale
oh he was sponsored to play it
Too bad that to do well he wouldve had to pay more than the sponsor money 
tranquil sedge
Is there a good way to take advantage of having no ES outside broken faith shiel...
im not sure but 'take advantage of' would be very build-specific
i.e. wat are you playing
split maple
Is there a good way to take advantage of having no ES outside broken faith shiel...
cws ig?
silent leaf
Is there a good way to take advantage of having no ES outside broken faith shiel...
CWS Valyrium
silent leaf
brazen vector
whole bluff
What methods are there for removing energy shield btw? Only agnostic?
tranquil sedge
anyone know about containment strongbox farming? 😮 question here
#1┃after-acts-help
spice pecan
What methods are there for removing energy shield btw? Only agnostic?
eldritch battery kind of
grand stratus
Hi guys, sry for not screenshot
I want to remove a suffix so I can bench craft a Trigger mod, how can I do?
tranquil sedge
nvm esm got it
spice pecan
if you specifically want to remove es from your health pool
whole bluff
eldritch battery kind of
Nah, you still have ES for conditions
ancient sorrel
spirit drinker
Agnostic blocks it, i guess
whole bluff
if you specifically want to remove es from your health pool
I wanna remove all of the points of it, even if I use gear that gives it
ancient sorrel
im not sure but 'take advantage of' would be very build-specific
Elem caster with agnostic and 4k mana pool
ancient sorrel
CWS Valyrium
Thats an idea!
spice pecan
Hi guys, sry for not screenshot
I want to remove a suffix so I can bench craft a...
if your crafted mod is a suffix then you can just craft over that
otherwise might just have to annul and pray
grand stratus
"This item may not have another suffix"
grand stratus
otherwise might just have to annul and pray
What could happen?
spice pecan
uh, it could remove a mod that you dont want it to remove
annuls remove a random mod from the item
whole bluff
Is the line "you have no energy shield" seriously agnostic only? 😭
spice pecan
prefixes can't be changed + scour is an option to remove all suffixes but i don't think you can craft that
split maple
Does this have empty prefix if you remove bench?
Beastcraft add prefix remove suffix
spice pecan
oh that works actually
tranquil sedge
^ that's still rng on what suffix gets removed but at least suffix only yea
grand stratus
Beastcraft add prefix remove suffix
From einhar right?
elfin shale
Is the line "you have no energy shield" seriously agnostic only? 😭
You can force it to 0 in other ways but Agnostic is the only way that literally removes it i think
whole bluff
You can force it to 0 in other ways but Agnostic is the only way that literally ...
Damn
elfin shale
You can force it to 0 with Divine Shield, though i think Ghost Dance has a minimum of 30 some unless you have no evasion
grand stratus
Rip dont have that recipe ig
spice pecan
yeah you have to buy the beast for it
split maple
should be pretty close to free, that beastie is common and not rly in demand
whole bluff
Divine shield or constantly taking dot seem like you'd be messing yourself up a bit. I suppose if you accept the stat must exist, but be empty, there is stitched demon
Even being on 0 energy shield was way harder than I thought
ebon tendon
not wealthy exile trying to tell me these r 1 div ea
idk i guess i just cant track profits anymore
pulsar dune
What methods are there for removing energy shield btw? Only agnostic?
Dissolution of the flesh
frigid wedge
agnostic
whole bluff
Or 2 ways to go 0/0, some ways for 0/x
frigid wedge
what r u tryna do
whole bluff
I just wanted to update myself on whether "while you have no energy shield" is interesting
Cuz someone mentioned it
frigid wedge
a
elfin shale
I wish there was more payoff
frigid wedge
doesn't apostate also work
elfin shale
Doing it for JUST broken faith sucks
elfin shale
doesn't apostate also work
Kinda yes kinda no
Apostate doesnt work on shields, jewellery or any non-gear sources
Not working on shields specifically means it doesnt help with Broken Faith
pulsar dune
Does RF work?
elfin shale
Question is Apostate viable at all on a non-lifestacker
Im a big fan of red energy shield
pulsar dune
It's a kaoms heart with sockets, so can't be that bad IG
A lot of life builds don't care that much about gear defenses
whole bluff
Broken faith seems maybe OK on some RF early on, idk what else tbh. Guess the payoff is so low that even if it was easy and common to go 0 ES, it wouldn't be worth
whole bluff
whole bluff
0 damage eblade pog
Pacifist build
pulsar dune
Ubers with agnostic eblade challenge
whole bluff
Shame eblade has some skill flat or it'd be really pacifist
frigid wedge
lvl 1 eblade
elfin shale
Apostate, 1 ES on amulet, ES regen jewel, Chaos Bloodline for Sacrifice of Blood and Everlasting Sacrifice