1┃general

[plush gulch]

spirit of the boar 20second

[tranquil sedge]

that ig

how much of that is inflation though and how much is it just being a meta item?

[plush gulch]

hard to say for sure

[tranquil sedge]

speaking from poe1 economy experience the other strats (esp. once poe2 gets more league mechanics and strats) will tend to go up a bit more relatively speaking to compensate

also strats that shit out raw tinks also tend to drop mirrors and other pricey things like the other assorted tinks

so the div/hr metric isn't necessarily very indiciative of inflation in this game

because if say u make 50d/hr but a lot of that is from things u sell to get divs, ur not really inflating things all that much

[normal hedge]

boar isnt a mirror õ.o

[plush gulch]

yeah I see it's 200 div 😮

[tranquil sedge]

how are the prices of those other tinks in that clip you sent me
perfect exalts, perfect jewellers, those tablets?
up, down, same?

[plush gulch]

maybe I was wrong but i remember seeing a price like way more than i bought

[normal hedge]

cat one is 300+

and a mirror was more than 2,5k divines when i quit

[plush gulch]

and I saw a mirror or close to it at one point

[normal hedge]

so its pretty far from a mirror

[plush gulch]

but maybe I misread

idk how much mirror fluctuate either

[plush gulch]

let me check

[tranquil sedge]

mirrors definitely get hit by inflation if raw divs start dropping a lot

things that are super rare will get hit the hardest

[vital ice]

standardddd

[tranquil sedge]

mirrors obv fall into that category but also things like locks or super rare gear will end up doing the same

just coz people can and will overpay

[vital ice]

True

[tranquil sedge]

and then its just an endless race to the top

but other things will get hit less if there's enough supply to meet demand
is why knowing wat kinda loot drops matters when deciding how badly smth impacts economy

[plush gulch]

tried to check but nobody use

bulk website

[tranquil sedge]

no worries

[plush gulch]

so I have to log in

ffs

[tranquil sedge]

its fine dw lol

[plush gulch]

nah that's a cool question

i can checkj

doesn't bother me

im curious aswell

[tranquil sedge]

brb 10 min

[plush gulch]

@tranquil sedgethe average joe isn't doing absolutely min max gameplay though they kinda play the game get divs here and there maybe some other currencies

and it was okay to just run your map

with like a few mecanics

nice tablet

now outside of very specific currencies

😅

its one of the rarest stuff

greater exalt you use quite often it's pretty cheap, perfect you only use it for very expensive item

perfect chaos 4div

one div 380 exalt

[grizzled lily]

yea really easy i would finish my map in 1:30 mins come out eith 3k vivid lifeforce

idk what the numbers are for vivid to div rn but

[plush gulch]

does someone know a lot about minions ?

[grizzled lily]

1.2k vivid to div was a movir

[tranquil sedge]

1:2.5

[grizzled lily]

ewwww

noones gambling

[plush gulch]

@tranquil sedgewere there new unique or foulborn unique for minions ?

[elder marlin]

its 1:4k now

[grizzled lily]

wtf

[tranquil sedge]

it went back up to 2.5 afaik

[normal hedge]

yesterday was 2.5 yeah

[split maple]

Helmet that gives soul eater to minions

Also some Nice foulborn sword

[normal hedge]

linked minions 😭

[elder marlin]

u get 25 yellow per 1c and 1d is like 140c

[plush gulch]

I want to build about the forestr tiger they are my favorite but they are quite squishy

[tranquil sedge]

this is not correct way to look at prices

[split maple]

Also spectres aren't permalost anymore

[plush gulch]

and im totally skipped keepers of the flame

[tranquil sedge]

you just check what it sells for in div.

[normal hedge]

if u're selling juice for chaos i have bad news for you

[plush gulch]

they get attack dmg per evasion and they give haste

so I can run grace

[elder marlin]

no way theres gonna be this big of a gap in the market

[tranquil sedge]

news for you :p

[split maple]

Late league yea

[tranquil sedge]

go check again xd

[split maple]

Not enough folks fliping

[frigid wedge]

which strike (per attack) has the best clear

[normal hedge]

ls of arcing?

[plush gulch]

what would you say are good ascendancy for minions ?

spectre

[split maple]

Idk I don't minions

[frigid wedge]

assumed so but wanted feedback

[split maple]

Tho necro sounds like Nice default?

[normal hedge]

i'm not so sure, but i think ls of arcing is the best one

[split maple]

Has to be ls or lsoa yea

[elder marlin]

i mean either necro or guardian

[grizzled lily]

smiteee

[normal hedge]

smite aint bad, but not the best for sure

[frigid wedge]

how do you come to that conclusion

[split maple]

Idk once you slap fork on ls

Smite cannot compare

[tranquil sedge]

smite isn't bad but yea probably ls or fb better

[plush gulch]

everything look strong 😮

[frigid wedge]

just need smth to slap into my generals cry to use my trauma stacks for clear

[plush gulch]

I never played a necro

[tranquil sedge]

fbok especially lol but that got nerfed hard

[plush gulch]

I only did a paladin forest tiger build

[normal hedge]

oh gc for clear?

[frigid wedge]

literally the minion ascendancy

[elder marlin]

me too

[normal hedge]

huh

[grizzled lily]

because smite good i like smite no need to target anywhere plus i have cool myx

mtx

[tranquil sedge]

poe.ninja -> builds -> choose ur minion skill -> see top player ascendencies

[elder marlin]

i dont like witch in general

[frigid wedge]

dom blow of inspiring for single target seems too strong to use my generals cry for bossing

[plush gulch]

I prefer to play male character 😎

[frigid wedge]

but dom blow is effectively default attack with supports in terms of being an actual strike

[plush gulch]

so no female like witch or shadow I think I mostly played duelist templar and marauder

[grizzled lily]

can u play guardian minions tho

[elder marlin]

when i click raise zombie of falling i only see glad (ik)

[frigid wedge]

shadow is a man

[plush gulch]

I know I was joking

[normal hedge]

shadow is a twink

[tranquil sedge]

shadow is a dude

[plush gulch]

but also kinda not

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[frigid wedge]

the only female ascendancies are witch, ranger and scion

[plush gulch]

🤔

scion is cool though

[frigid wedge]

just bc hes not 6ft 4 sideways doesnt mean hes not a dude

[elder marlin]

ranger is les, so pretty much a man in my book

[split maple]

[plush gulch]

yeah it's just he is ultra meta so I don't like him

[frigid wedge]

i swear ppl thirst over ranger more than the other 2

[frigid wedge]

FOR WHAT

😂

[split maple]

not anymore

[plush gulch]

and before the es meta was going crazy it was bow character

all EVASION

[split maple]

trickster got killed

[elder marlin]

[frigid wedge]

shadow is shit atm

sabo is the best one there and hes still mid

[split maple]

like sabo is pretty much the only interesting shadow ascend and only bc you can take bloodline for 4 points

[plush gulch]

isn't trickster es stacker one of the best still ?

[normal hedge]

no

[frigid wedge]

n o

[plush gulch]

I see

[elder marlin]

no

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[tranquil sedge]

trickster got some well deserved nerfs

[elder marlin]

mid at best

[plush gulch]

I skipped keeper of the flame

[tranquil sedge]

u can still play it just fine if you want tho

[grizzled lily]

next league ill play guardian aura bot

[normal hedge]

trickster still enough for any content

[plush gulch]

I still thought it had way higher celling than most ascendancy

[tranquil sedge]

tricksters in a nice spot ^

[frigid wedge]

this league nearly every single node on trickster got nerfs and the ones that didnt get nerfed were either useless or got nerfed last league

[tranquil sedge]

its a safe pick

[split maple]

trickster is playable but its kinda nothing that you cannot get elsewhere

like the only unique thing to it now is spellbreaker + wicked ward

[frigid wedge]

its functional, it doesn't stand out anymore

[normal hedge]

rather play slayer than trickster

[split maple]

and almost no one used that when tricky was strong

[plush gulch]

it's fun when ascendancy have very unique stuff

[tranquil sedge]

i mean none of the nerfs changed how the ascendency itself plays functionally

[plush gulch]

that may shape your entire chracter around it

[tranquil sedge]

so its still a very playable pick

it just got some surprisingly sane nerfs

[split maple]

its enough of change - escape artist + necro is now worse than just twilight regalie, soul drinker is now just es overleech which is very easy to get, one step ahead is now one step behind

[tranquil sedge]

and heartstopper was just a buff lol

[split maple]

like you can make trickster without ascendancy lol

[elder marlin]

u have bloodline for that, specifically trialmaster bloodline

[frigid wedge]

trickster severely lacks that atm in terms of being useful too

[tranquil sedge]

wats wrong with one step

still protection against action speed debuffs

[split maple]

you can get action speed protect from farul bloodline now or just still use balance of terror

90% is just not enough

[plush gulch]

I looked poopbutt video he had very interestring ideas about ascendancies

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[split maple]

like yeah changes were pretty much just numerical

but quantity becomes quality when big enough

[normal hedge]

they prolly buffing the shit out of trickster next patch anyways

[plush gulch]

i don' t mind that as long as theyr nuke energy shield and attribute

[normal hedge]

yeah buddy thats never gonna happen

[plush gulch]

maybe two or three nuke

[normal hedge]

they dont care about stackers

[tranquil sedge]

that won't happen

[split maple]

idk ass needs another rework, sabo needs half of ascend reworked and trickster needs some serious surgery

shadow in bad shape

[plush gulch]

they said want to you know guys

[tranquil sedge]

we can hope for some life buffs tho a bit more life on tree wouldn't be terrible

[plush gulch]

it's just it's so many stuff interacting with each other

it's tough to nerf

[split maple]

life feels kinda allright this leg tbh, if it wasnt for accu claws it would be meta

[plush gulch]

they said it in interviews

[elder marlin]

well they succeeded

[tranquil sedge]

take what they say with big pinch of salt

half the time even they don't know what they want

nothing happens till it really happens :x

[plush gulch]

i trust they do their best, I don't doom too much

[frigid wedge]

sabo is slowly becoming projectile ascendancy instead of traps n mines

[elder marlin]

also this is funny, glad is the best ascendancy for raise zombie of falling

[tranquil sedge]

ppl are playing it as cws ye

[split maple]

yeah the only nodes i currently care about in it are nimis and blind

[frigid wedge]

isnt it just added to cws

[elder marlin]

(ik its for gratuitous violence)

[frigid wedge]

chain reaction

[tranquil sedge]

is it?

idk i just know ppl are using it in cws

[plush gulch]

srev are you good with minion ?

[elder marlin]

yea it is, im playing it rn

[plush gulch]

building minions character

[tranquil sedge]

last time i played minions was leaguestarter in 3.20

i sent ua message earlier

[elder marlin]

whats minion do u like to play?

[tranquil sedge]

^

[elder marlin]

spell cant bleed, minion can, gratuitous said bleeding enemy explode

[plush gulch]

my favorite is the forest tiger spectre I already built around him in the past but I hoped to make a better one

it was really cool

one of my favorite

[frigid wedge]

honestly i should play minions

[plush gulch]

but I was trying paladin and links

[split maple]

this leg due to farul bloodline it makes a lot of sense to slap in some sceptre like tiger or turtle or ... into generic non-minion builds

maybe consider also that?

[frigid wedge]

but i wanna play like, partially aware munions

[plush gulch]

and anyone I showed my forest tiger build was amazed

[frigid wedge]

yeah bc its a support spectre

does popcorn marionettes still work?

[plush gulch]

nah like how it looks

how cool it plays/looks

and people were like hoping I can make it work and stuff

[elder marlin]

why play the game when u can afk 24/7 in inscribe and print currency

[plush gulch]

everytime I make a build I kinda show it to most of my friends in game

[split maple]

i feel judged now

[plush gulch]

im a noob idk how to make money

[tranquil sedge]

pick any strat -> run it

[frigid wedge]

i cant do afk builds icl

[tranquil sedge]

it really is not more complicated than that

[plush gulch]

yeah I do that and stay poor, im dumb

[elder marlin]

do crafting while being hit by a colony of mobs

[split maple]

i would but i am out of alts

[frigid wedge]

i need some amount of buttons

[tranquil sedge]

most of the time its usually one or a combination of - not actually spending that much time in maps, not realizing value in loot picked up/liquidating properly, or not actually running a strat to begin with

[plush gulch]

im the kind of guys that need 3 or 4 weeks to buy a mageblood playing a lot

kings of noob

[elder marlin]

my build officially have no buttons

[tranquil sedge]

once u reach mapping this league share what ur gonna do here and we'll comment on ur strat

[elder marlin]

like i dont even have a movement skill

[tranquil sedge]

like i doubt we won't be able to get u farming at least 10d/hr lol

[plush gulch]

yeah probably

[tranquil sedge]

mageblood is chase and its not rly worth counting days/weeks

[frigid wedge]

i think minion builds look cool but then i realise most of them involve going for a cuppa while the boss dies

[tranquil sedge]

hours played is a far more useful metric

if it takes u 40h over 2 days or 2 weeks its still 40h

[plush gulch]

yes

[plush gulch]

cuppa?

[tranquil sedge]

and rn mageblood is sub 100d
thats <10h on a casual strat

[frigid wedge]

cup of tea

[tranquil sedge]

cuppa tea

[plush gulch]

that's why you need to pick a minion that looks awesome

[elder marlin]

really...prob with svalinn

[frigid wedge]

like carrion golrm of scav looks super fun, but im just there

[bleak wharf]

Hiya. If you had to guess when Is next league launch? 67

[tranquil sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-gdb-cuppa-tea-runescape-osrs-gif-24522923

[plush gulch]

like FOREST TIGER

[tranquil sedge]

end feb/early march

that is a guess.

[frigid wedge]

still afk

[bleak wharf]

Like 6 weeks from now ? @tranquil sedge

[elder marlin]

i mean u can try animate guardian armor/aura stacker guardian

[bleak wharf]

Hmmmm

[tranquil sedge]

~ish, yes

🤞 we hear about dates sometime end of this month im hoping

[plush gulch]

is there a way for me to look at all foulborn unique

and new unique

for minions

[frigid wedge]

poedb foulborn

[plush gulch]

to see if any would apply to my spectre build

thanks

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Foulborn_unique_item

[plush gulch]

I need to find a way to max out my specre defense a lot

forest tiger are on the squishy side

I guess the recover life is good

with unholy might

[prisma summit]

any rs fans ? 😄

[tranquil sedge]

rewatching gielinor games season 3 rn lol

[elder marlin]

is any of the uber pinnacle boss have any high phys slam

[tranquil sedge]

shaper daddy

sirus

[elder marlin]

oh, shaper slam is a phys slam?

[tranquil sedge]

uber shaper slam's probably one of the hardest phys hits in the game for most ppl

sirus's meteor has phys damage

[plush gulch]

isn't it this just a even worse unique

[tranquil sedge]

im unsure if exarch balls have any phys component to them

[elder marlin]

zealot's oath and ci

[prisma summit]

always one build type will use it , never ask that 😛 😄

[plush gulch]

👀

looks strong

[elder marlin]

kinda mid since body is usually for defense

[spare ore]

yeah

losing huge defence from wearing that instead of rare chest

[plush gulch]

yeah I don't know how to make my forest tiger tanky enough

fror juiced content

oh noo

link skill are annoying to use

would solve my build though

[blissful zodiac]

@plush gulch HEAHUNTER FOR MINIONS GO BRRRRRR

oh

linked

[plush gulch]

it would be I have frenzy charge with my character

what do I even do with those

[blissful zodiac]

flicker away

[plush gulch]

can I convert to endurance ?

[blissful zodiac]

oh wait this aint phercia

[plush gulch]

maybe a keystone

no its not

I did it on paladin

but I want to do it again

they are so fun

[blissful zodiac]

oh man

[plush gulch]

tiger go brrr

[blissful zodiac]

I really miss phercia

best league of 2025

behind mercs

imo

[plush gulch]

for me poe isn't the same since necro

i don't like where its going

[blissful zodiac]

my first league was affliction

[plush gulch]

oh

[blissful zodiac]

oh indeed

[plush gulch]

in my time

:p

[blissful zodiac]

imagine ur first league being a super juicy league

[plush gulch]

most of them are super juicy

[blissful zodiac]

then the next league is just utter brokeyness

[ebon tendon]

my first was settlers and the mechanic looked so mid i played std

[blissful zodiac]

and not knowing how to craft (i still dont because I do more trading than crafting)

[plush gulch]

tbh i don't care about the loot

[blissful zodiac]

I like explosions

at least i did t17s this league

and got me first hh

[plush gulch]

you should play gladiator

you say you like explosion you didn't even try the best one

[blissful zodiac]

I like my cyclone slayer to much for that

[frigid wedge]

loot or mob

[blissful zodiac]

and it has 3 cluster explodes cause I dont know how to craft XD

but good idea

hmmm

bleed explode what tho

and id be able to max out block probably

cause I do have triple lucky/unlucky sheild

[plush gulch]

champion seems so bad for minion

too bad

[frigid wedge]

keeps em alive

it was better when minions needed accuracy

[elder marlin]

taunt enemy = less enemies hit ur summons

[plush gulch]

i was thinking my forest tiger give me frenzy charge so maybe I can do this with champion

[elder marlin]

also fortitude

[plush gulch]

im cooking right

[dapper fractal]

the fuck?

[elder marlin]

seems sus to me

[dapper fractal]

I like sleeping with my sibling? who just so happens to be a woman?

and now Im muted?

I AM A GIRL

?????

[elder marlin]

"love" maybe

they have no context so they would mute u

[dapper fractal]

lmao

[livid quarry]

they want us to talk in discord instead

free mods

[ebon tendon]

[livid quarry]

actually good advice to not talk in poe world or w.e the main chat is

get muted for what most consider dumbest reasons

[crisp plinth]

or just be normal

[livid quarry]

naw normal talking still get muted

so ppl talk in discord instead

[crisp plinth]

no it doesnt

[plush gulch]

i talk in poe chat fine

[heady cliff]

was that in global 1?

[dapper fractal]

ye

[heady cliff]

truly dark times are upon us

[dapper fractal]

I love g1

[plush gulch]

really ? that's what you find dark

[crisp plinth]

my freezepeach in a game chat

[dapper fractal]

nimis tornado shot

[plush gulch]

wanted to come to the temporary league

im tilted

i can't even put my game in windowed mode

it freeze

i try to switch renderer maybe or something

does the same

[tight plinth]

how do you add temple mods in pob? do you have to manually type them up?

[hard cliff]

what temple mods

[crisp obsidian]

why you asking us

it tells you exactly where to go to get more information

[split maple]

i copy them from coe tho i sure hope there is better way

[crude goblet]

guys how long more for ending the season?1 month and half?

[blissful zodiac]

@crisp plinth yo fausty

made any sells today

them divs aint gonna magically appear CHOP CHOP

[normal hedge]

til late feb

[crude goblet]

ok thanks

[blissful zodiac]

valid ban 🤓

[heady cliff]

silencing global 1 is dark

[old prism]

f for boss scams xD Asinia's bone circle didnt have an opening

[sage falcon]

is asinia in poe1

also aren't you supposed to attack to create an opening for yourself

[ember goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/consequences-cat-gif-6581548611274851813

[plush gulch]

I dislike so much people playing stupid, idk what I did wrong guys 😅

[frigid wedge]

lack of action also has consequences

such as the big sad in my case

[silent leaf]

90% of the people who post mutes here is just asking for sympathy

lets be real

[plush gulch]

yeah. I find it just ten time more annoying when they are playing stupid

[silent leaf]

playing?

[frigid wedge]

me when i wanna tell someone shes cute and dont bc fear

this didnt happen 10 minutes ago

no

[tranquil sedge]

||ur cute||

[rancid sluice]

establish dominance pee on their shoes

[silent leaf]

pee on their face like cats and tigers do to mark their territory

[rancid sluice]

works for other animals

that seems like a bit much for a first date

[frigid wedge]

thanks but im still sad

[sour karma]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bang-theory-sheldon-cooper-gif-5960461

dont be sad. get glad

[frigid wedge]

maybe ill fix the issue next week

but probably not

[sour karma]

https://tenor.com/view/100percent-gif-18827918

[frigid wedge]

not rlly

maybe 70

i love crippling anxiety

its my favourite

[jagged raven]

what do u guys do when ur bored off ur mind farming currency?

[ebon tendon]

Logoff

Or afk

[frigid wedge]

open random maps

[normal hedge]

mist my ring

and quit right after

[frigid wedge]

lmao

rilay come back

[silent leaf]

you guys farm currency?

i just farm whatever i need in hand more than currency, dont rly have any use for divines

[ebon tendon]

Direct currency farm doesnt rly exist anyway

[silent leaf]

yea i just farm

if i wanted to farm alts to get t1 life gears

[jagged raven]

what is mist ur ring?

[split maple]

ulti

[silent leaf]

Sanctussy

[ebon tendon]

Oh

Maybe

[split maple]

prolly 90% of my divs is from div inscribeds

[frigid wedge]

settlers

[ebon tendon]

Guess i need to make cws

[normal hedge]

reflecting mist

[ebon tendon]

Do u use svalin

[frigid wedge]

if u want max efficiency for raw u would sanctum

[frigid wedge]

life on block shield/azadi iirc

[normal hedge]

Azadi crest

[split maple]

if you want to do ultis only do azadi glad

[ebon tendon]

[frigid wedge]

"ultis, only" or "ultis only," ?

[split maple]

ultis only,

like for simuls chief is better

[frigid wedge]

yeah

wanted to make sure u meant what i thought bc it can be confused

[true falcon]

Feel like it's been a while since we had a crafting league

[frigid wedge]

necropolis

so since 3.22

[true falcon]

Ahh, my brain purged that from memory

[frigid wedge]

this league is functionally a crafting league tho

[ebon tendon]

meh

[frigid wedge]

it crafts items

functionally very similarly to necropolis in method

and settlers gave us recombs

[true falcon]

Ehh yeah I guess

[frigid wedge]

which isnt new but they returned it to us after like 10 leagues

or whenever lake was

[true falcon]

"Burning Ground deals 50% of Fire Damage per second of inflicted Ignite" I need to play FSoC again because last time I read this as "more duration = more damage"

Like "per second of inflicted ignite" was the damage scaling part

[ebon tendon]

am probably just expecting too much for only playing for like a year

[stuck phoenix]

Burning ground obviously does burning damage which is fire damage over time so the damage it deals must be described as burning damage or fire damage damage over time

If it wasn't poe, the sentence would've been possible to misinterpret though

[tepid dagger]

How can i make this better

[stuck phoenix]

Benchcraft

[tepid dagger]

Using items

Ill craft later

[stuck phoenix]

You asked a question and that's my answer

[tepid dagger]

Okay

[sour karma]

i wouldnt. 1 essence would make that better. thats a fully rerolled item

[true falcon]

At some point I should be able to hit dotcap with enough "ignites deal damage faster"

And terrible day 2 ssf items

[stuck phoenix]

You mean 1 and 1 essence?

[tepid dagger]

Which one tho 🤔

Im lvl 40 rn

Witch

[stuck phoenix]

Also, it's block chance, aps, and some res, so it's passable at level 30

[split maple]

it has 3 sockets thats good enough for lvl40 tbh

[stuck phoenix]

A bit sad at level 40

But ok still

[tepid dagger]

Im immune to all ailments

[stuck phoenix]

I bet you're not, but I wasn't counting the ele ailment avoid anyways

[tepid dagger]

It says i am

[lean urchin]

purity of elements prob

[stuck phoenix]

It says you're immune to all elemental ailments

[lean urchin]

oh he said all ailments

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[tepid dagger]

Yes

[lean urchin]

youre immune to all elemental ailments. there is bleed and poison aswell

and maybe more

[tepid dagger]

Ok

Well elemental

So should i gamble an annulment orb for more empty craft mods?

[stuck phoenix]

Nobody said that

[tepid dagger]

Its a suggestion

[stuck phoenix]

I already gave the only suggestion I have for what I'd consider doing to that shield

[tepid dagger]

Ok so fuck off

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

You didn't phrase it as a question initially

And this is a chat channel

[silent leaf]

[stuck phoenix]

For chatting

You don't own it

[silent leaf]

inb4 he is john discord

[tepid dagger]

This isnt a question?

[stuck phoenix]

Yeah sure

[split maple]

Jacky are you in hc

[stuck phoenix]

Ok fine it was a question before too

Anyways, answer was just nobody said that

You already got the two somewhat relevant considerations

[sour karma]

you dont need the scour in poe 1

[tepid dagger]

Does this make sense to you?

[stuck phoenix]

You do at that level

[stuck phoenix]

Yes, that's why I wrote it

Why would I write nonsense

[tepid dagger]

This looks like it

[stuck phoenix]

That sounds like a you problem

[sour karma]

why are we crafting a lvl 30 item lmao

[tepid dagger]

Ok you gotta be ragebaiting

[split maple]

like if you aint in hc idk why are you worried about gear so much

and where you left manners

[stuck phoenix]

Well, I literally didn't recommend to

[stuck phoenix]

I literally said

[tepid dagger]

And i said i wanted to use items first

[silent leaf]

probably because there is absolutely no one saying it tbh

thats probably why bido is saying what bido is saying

you just say it like its what you want to do

not rly asking if you should do it

its like saying you are already heavily leaning towards the idea of annuling it

[tepid dagger]

So a question mark just doesnt work now?

[stuck phoenix]

It does

[silent leaf]

ok just saying, grammar is important

[stuck phoenix]

When it's a relevant question

[hard cliff]

this chat is racist against PlayStation players

I've noticed it a lot

[silent leaf]

[tepid dagger]

🤔

👌

[hard cliff]

Xbox players are like the "good minority"

to them

[silent leaf]

his words, not mine

[tepid dagger]

Playstation players over here also hate them

[sour karma]

the problem is at that level you outrun rear so quickly you dont do anything besides a benchcraft. the camapaign can be finished in an average of 8 hrs

[silent leaf]

yea im just trying to help make sense bido's words to him

[sour karma]

sorry linked wrong person

[stuck phoenix]

Lul

[silent leaf]

[stuck phoenix]

At this point I honestly don't care if he gets what I said

[tepid dagger]

I understand that but i just want better gear because im using a shield from act 1

That aint good

[finite quail]

do you even have an annul for that

also like

no?

[tepid dagger]

Yes

[finite quail]

that shield is shit

[sour karma]

go gamble on faustus i guess

[finite quail]

get a better one

[hard cliff]

this

[tepid dagger]

Lvl 40 bruh

[finite quail]

i dont care whatlevel u are

get a better one

its not hard

[sour karma]

faustus us always at your lvl

[silent leaf]

lvl 40 doesnt rly mean shit

[stuck phoenix]

If you want question answered with no sass, there's the question channels for a reason

[silent leaf]

since some veterans kinda

[stuck phoenix]

This is a chat channel for chatting about the game

[silent leaf]

get to lvl 80 within 6 hours maybe

[tepid dagger]

Alright

[silent leaf]

getting to lvl 1 - 80 isnt rly that hard of a task if you practice a lot

[sour karma]

the campaing the first time takes around 13 hours for most people

[hard cliff]

@tepid dagger
bibo is an asshole don't let him discourage you

if you need help ping me or @silent leaf anytime

[silent leaf]

wtf is v

[tepid dagger]

Thanks 😭

[hard cliff]

I fixed it

[silent leaf]

edit

[hard cliff]

@silent leaf

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

[silent leaf]

yea jsut dont think about gear

[finite quail]

where did this magical 13 hour number come from

[silent leaf]

until your like after acts

also yea first timers usually are on 2+ days

[tepid dagger]

Probably how long it takes for noobs

[silent leaf]

veterans is 5+- hours

[finite quail]

noobs take longer than that

[sour karma]

the new players i help every league

[tepid dagger]

How do you know

[silent leaf]

yea 2+ days is probably good number

[finite quail]

Personal experience over the years

[hard cliff]

what's your pp

[silent leaf]

based on most people's complaints

its 2-3 days in my experience

[hard cliff]

looks familiar

[sage falcon]

what

[tepid dagger]

I remember when i first played this game my tree was literally all over the place

My dps was like 5k max

[sage falcon]

literally nobody cares what platform you play on, are you serious

[split maple]

twas a decent map

[ebon tendon]

Holy

[tepid dagger]

Googly moogly

[lean urchin]

nice 20 fusings

[normal hedge]

holy shit 5 alchemy orbs

[stuck phoenix]

1 engineer's orb

Brrr

[sour karma]

oh boy tabi

[sage falcon]

i too can name an item i see in the image

[split maple]

no one called the cards tho

[stuck phoenix]

Name the least valuable item per slot it takes up

[normal hedge]

cards are way too easy

[lean urchin]

youre in it, bottom, 4th from left @sage falcon

[frigid wedge]

holy shit 2 lesser ichor

[hard cliff]

someone woke up in a mad mood this morning

[silent leaf]

now what is this

[tepid dagger]

Always the mods

[frigid wedge]

what

[finite quail]

frac shards?

[rancid sluice]

bingo?

[finite quail]

oh bottom right

[silent leaf]

idt thats frac shards

lmao

[normal hedge]

thats not what the arrow is pointing

[finite quail]

Looks like a scroll of wisdom

[lean urchin]

catalyst?

[ebon tendon]

Div shard

[normal hedge]

wisdom

[stuck phoenix]

Scroll of wisdom

[tepid dagger]

Why are we playing bingo

[stuck phoenix]

And I think it's a 2

[finite quail]

scroll of wisdom

[normal hedge]

small pp arrow

[silent leaf]

small

is relative

[sage falcon]

i suppose the lesser ichors/embers, blessed, jewellers, whetstones are all somewhere within the "fraction of a chaos" range

[finite quail]

tiny pp

[hard cliff]

why would you draw an arrow then crop out what it's pointing too

[sage falcon]

what are you trying to suggest here

[hard cliff]

what's wrong with you

[sage falcon]

almost like that's the whole point

[stuck phoenix]

Yes but which one is lowest
Also chaos frag is literally fraction of chaos

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/bloons-monkey-popping-balloons-bloons-tower-defense-ninja-kiwi-gif-18165552

[normal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bloons-monkey-popping-balloons-bloons-tower-defense-ninja-kiwi-gif-18165552

[sage falcon]

yeah but it's a big fraction, the other ones are closer to 1/3 1/4 etc.

[stuck phoenix]

Yes but which is lowest

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859205894499074079/890782693418217502/GIF-210723_195038.gif

[tepid dagger]

I forgot i made 300c from selling my christmas gift on faustus

[sage falcon]

ihavent looked at prices in weeks so idk man

[stuck phoenix]

Xddd

Same

[stuck phoenix]

Selling off a Christmas gift is sad

[sour karma]

why are we regifting

[tepid dagger]

It was shit

[lean urchin]

300c of coalorbs

[stuck phoenix]

Still sad

[tepid dagger]

Wow

[rancid sluice]

made around 130d yesterday, not bad for me. best day of this league for sure

[sour karma]

he worked reallllly hard on those

[ebon tendon]

At least he honest

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[tepid dagger]

It wasnt good ngl

[hard cliff]

I need to resell a Christmas gift irl but that's just cause my relative bought me the exact same hoody two years in a row

mistakes were made

[tepid dagger]

Is it your grandma??

[hard cliff]

aunt

[tepid dagger]

Same same

[hard cliff]

that's crazy

how many hours of playtime

[frigid wedge]

3

[lean urchin]

he said "yesterday" so like max 24 hours

[rancid sluice]

a lot lol. maybe 12

[tranquil sedge]

so ~10-12d/hr nb

[hard cliff]

pretty solid

[tranquil sedge]

wat farm this late in the league

harvest?

[hard cliff]

I've given up on my build

[tranquil sedge]

or harby? or smth else

[rancid sluice]

on basically nothing but ritual farming with very little investment

[tranquil sedge]

fishing for nameless?

[lean urchin]

lets hear this "little investment"

[frigid wedge]

why

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-missile-gif-6310357323967362250

[rancid sluice]

just whatever, sold a tiger, lots of prismatics off king runs etc raw currency, frac bases

[normal hedge]

you dont farm harby at all in trade league

[lean urchin]

"frac bases" lies.

rmt confirmed

[tranquil sedge]

kira said he was making ~20d/hr

[somber sorrel]

quick question what's the timeline for temp leagues?
Im assuing 4 leagues per years 3 months each? how far in are we into the current one?

[tranquil sedge]

and i think others have said its nb too coz of the rares it spawns

[tranquil sedge]

closer to 4 months a leagur since a while now

this one started at the last day of october 2025

[normal hedge]

doubt, a lot

[stuck phoenix]

They literally said 4 months

[tranquil sedge]

3.28 probably end of feb/early march

[stuck phoenix]

Is the plan going forward

[rancid sluice]

jewels with good fracs actually sell pretty decent, nothing insane. they pop up quite a bit in rit

[stuck phoenix]

So you can expect it in a little under two months

[tranquil sedge]

dunno ask him 😄
they're doing some nemesis strat or smth using harby to spawn mobs

[stuck phoenix]

Or 3 leagues per game per year

[tranquil sedge]

idk exactly

[somber sorrel]

i see i see thanks

[normal hedge]

yeah harby by itself is bad and harby scarab is worse than regular scarab farm

[hard cliff]

I'm burnt out on this league and farming harvest is boring af but boxes not paying off anymore

[plush gulch]

PIRAGON

yo

[finite quail]

its 3 leagues per year

[hard cliff]

burnt out lol

[finite quail]

they each last 4 months now

[hard cliff]

no pun intended

[finite quail]

next league starts in about one and a half months

[split maple]

I like harb for influ map farm, for scarbs its a tad sad coz it's slow af

[crisp plinth]

all of them

[split maple]

But idk what other stuff to slap in t16.5 to get as many maps

[plush gulch]

sad only two person out of 58

where are my friends

[blissful zodiac]

MF DID YOU JUST RUN OFF WITH MY MONEY

POLICE

HELP

MF TOOK MY $$$ AND RAN OFF TO SSF

[plush gulch]

lmao I keep trying to use wasd and use space bar to roll

[finite quail]

thats ur new note on discord

[plush gulch]

what xD

[steel light]

if i'm gonna try and transfer merciless mod over to a new base, what 2-hand sword is more in demand?

[finite quail]

Reaver usually

[plush gulch]

he is the first guy that I ever saw playing a melee build

[tranquil sedge]

probably reaver but u could check on poe.ninja

[plush gulch]

so it looked likle amonkey leepslamming everywhere

[split maple]

What skill even uses phys sword twohanders this leg

Flicker?

[plush gulch]

I started in tota

[tranquil sedge]

sort by rare 2h sword builds (or rare 2h if no swords available) by dps

whatever top dps uses ig

[finite quail]

Could also transfer it to the heist two handed sword

[steel light]

i checked ninja, a lot of different answers

[split maple]

Yeah that Will be a lot of tri ele and influ swords

[finite quail]

[tranquil sedge]

oh
right

[finite quail]

Also exquisite blades

for the 50% crit multi

[steel light]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/?items=Rare+Two+Handed+Sword&sort=dps

[plush gulch]

do you know any minion build based on evasion ?

I can never find any

[tranquil sedge]

looks like ezomyte base popular for some reason

[split maple]

Oh cyclone is doing phys swords

I thought they liked staffs

[silent leaf]

its the crit sword

highest base crit% iirc

[tranquil sedge]

i see

how do they make those chests

[stuck phoenix]

Caster mod

Crit mod

Forced with harvest reforge

[tranquil sedge]

influenced mods spread across prefix and suffix then 😮

[stuck phoenix]

And then uh mana cost I don't remember

Or is it start on mana cost

Right

And then lock and harvest reforge force one

And then again

Though how to get life as well I dunno

[rancid sluice]

i wish faustus could do div cards too. im sitting on a bunch from yesterday still. they dont seem to sell as well anymore off the regular trade site

[stuck phoenix]

Maybe recomb for life and the one influenced mod, maybe not

[lean urchin]

he ... does?

[tranquil sedge]

flat mana cost warlord suffix
attack crit hunter suffix
+1 curse hunter prefix
i get how they might get the influenced mods but yea then how life on top

is that a 4 mod recomb or smth then

[stuck phoenix]

Why would it be 4

[tranquil sedge]

i ignored the fire res

[stuck phoenix]

Oh right two prefix two suffix

Annoying

[tranquil sedge]

and this guy has an even more crazy one lol

[stuck phoenix]

Unethical

[tranquil sedge]

feels like some kinda gamble on the prefixes to slam life after forcing the influenced mod maybe?

[split maple]

Bases are low overquals

Betting on ass recomb

[tranquil sedge]

maybe thats why only the crit is elevated then

and not the mana cost

to keep chest craft cost down a bit

[split maple]

You can prolly make 2-3 mod feeders with woke fishing already

[rancid sluice]

oh damn he does do divs too jeez what was i looking at last night

[naive roost]

Do things not show up on the trade site if you set scroll of wisdom as the price? I filled almost all of my tabs and no one bought anything yet.

[split maple]

Any of these chests on trade?

[tranquil sedge]

i can check

[split maple]

Like price Will be a good hint

[frigid wedge]

blight

[tranquil sedge]

those 3 influenced mods with none elevated starts at 20d and start climbing all the way up to 80+ fast

this 90d speciment is bigly

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Keepers/d8ZDvm83IJ

and this one for 100d is nice too but low roll attakc mod, needs divining

[split maple]

Yea gonna bet on recombing two woke orb results

For 2p2s it's 15% roughly

[tranquil sedge]

whats the input

1p1s + 1p1s or 2p1s/2s1p kinda stuff?

[steel light]

tried recomb with ezomyte blade, lost the fracture while keeping t1 physical

[tranquil sedge]

looks fun to try sometime tho

big dps pure cyclone

[split maple]

1p1s into 2p1s etc when you fail first try

Tho idk 1p1s from woker is hard to clean

Maybe smh else

Tho wait no, one suffix each is warlord and Hunters right?

[tranquil sedge]

ya

[split maple]

2p + 2s

Easier cleanup

[elfin shale]

Runegraft of Quaffing should work with Petrified Blood, right?

[hard cliff]

I'm good

not investing 4 divs into rings for one mechanic

[split maple]

What sorta rings

Isn't empower range anoint Just Black and verdant

That's free

[hard cliff]

freeze ring runs 2-3 div iirc

and i prob don't

[split maple]

You only need freeze if you a wuss

[tranquil sedge]

ur a pro player 3d is nothing to you

[plush gulch]

I finaly started, going necro i'll wing it I guess

[tranquil sedge]

gll

[plush gulch]

im like lvl 6

thx

[hard cliff]

I have 1 div

[tranquil sedge]

[elfin shale]

man this Master Surgeon thing seems really strong

Maybe ill twink level a pathfinder just to see if i can tolerate it

[tranquil sedge]

the tradeoff is u have to press the flask every 6-7s or whatever it is

tho its not really as bad as that sounds after 5 minutes u basically autopilot it

[elfin shale]

Simply press it every 0.2 seconds

[tranquil sedge]

how did u know my secret strategy

i just spam my flask LOL

-# and dont even realize im doing it 😂

[elfin shale]

Wonder if moving my flasks off 1 - 5 would help

[tranquil sedge]

maybe
4 of those buttons should be automated anyway tho if using flasks that u can

[elfin shale]

Oh i suppose i can try it with Runegraft of Quaffing + Enduring Mana Flask

[tranquil sedge]

uh

just get a proper big life flask

the node literally is just 'enduring' life flasks

[elfin shale]

i mean without having to level a PF

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[frigid wedge]

lazy shit

[elfin shale]

yes

[rancid sluice]

divs were another 20d so it was more like 150. im going back to farming 😉

[hard cliff]

you can set it up

that one flask press activates all of them

[tranquil sedge]

i mean the life flask

u can't automate that 😄

everything else is enchanted ye

[hard cliff]

yes but you can tag all your other flasks to go off when you press it

not optimal but funny

[tranquil sedge]

use when full is my default go to for those

but ye u can do that too

[hard cliff]

https://youtu.be/R_FQU4KzN7A

[brazen vector]

[split pagoda]

any1 know if schizo is good with bleed boneshatter on jugg? never really saw anyone doing but it should work well on jugg no?

the thing im uncertain about is how the selfhit from boneshatter is gonna feel with schizo

[acoustic roost]

Anyone know where I can get chromatic orbs?

[grizzled lily]

maps

[acoustic roost]

Like where

Where's the best

[grizzled lily]

any

[plush gulch]

expedition ?

maybe

[grizzled lily]

wat

[plush gulch]

the shop with tujen

give a good amount of bubblegum currency

[grim pivot]

You get alot in red maps

[plush gulch]

if yo uwant to buy them

[grizzled lily]

expedition hard mechanic

currency exchange the chaos

if you do tujen for chroms u hve a good build so basically u alr have the money and chromatics to not do expedition

[plush gulch]

maybe he is in ssf

and is looking for a lot of them

he didn't specify anything

[grizzled lily]

ssf people know

he asked which map gives the best

just use currency exchange

[plush gulch]

he didnt ask map that's you that you said it was best to map

and I agree you know

it's just if you want to specifically target those

you can do some expedition on the side

it's notr that hard I think, expedition is hard if you juice hard I think

but whatever

[finite quail]

wdym best?

there isnt a best

you get them everywhere from everything

[crisp plinth]

hm trying chains of command atm and it kinda feels worse than ranged aw

[finite quail]

they're extremely common

[crisp plinth]

guess i should try something non minion next

[finite quail]

if you're running low on chromes, you can sell gear that has 3 linked red green and blue sockets

[plush gulch]

🤔 how do people even path for minion in campaign lol

[crisp plinth]

if you go srs i like the cast speed if not you go the left int route

[plush gulch]

I wanted to go spectre tiger later

now i just do srs

idk what i was supposed to do

I do srs and raise zombie

[crisp plinth]

you get gold to respec anyway so id recommend making campaign smoother early on

[plush gulch]

i have to say

im steamrolling

with srs and raise zombie

phantasm support

😎

[rancid sluice]

lofty goals. i hope you realize the tigers are like 50d each

[plush gulch]

wait

what

why

🤔

they are supposed to be cheap, nobody like them

while I built aroujnd them once very funny build

it was in phrecia

the best one was like maybe 2div or something but not 50

I guess it's only been a few days

thats why

@rancid sluicethanks for the info

[elfin shale]

damn Foulborn Esh's + Ivory Tower kinda bangs

[rancid sluice]

from what ive seen of the tigers build its more of a gimic ive got more mirrors than i know what to do with kind of build they fall over super easy. much better minion builds out there to tackle content

[plush gulch]

i just find them cool

yeah they are squishy

[rancid sluice]

but i dont have 200d to spend on tigers nor would i so im not speaking from personal experience

[plush gulch]

I hope I could improve

btw you only need one of the haste

one

the other one you don't care as much

[rancid sluice]

ppl doing the crazy top end stuff are using a full set

[plush gulch]

full set of what ?

I don't understand

don't tell me people started to make build composed of only tiger spectre

out of nowhere

[rancid sluice]

indeed

[plush gulch]

wait really ??

what happened ?

I did it in phrecia it was goofy

nobody would have done this

anyway

i'll continue campaign and see what to do then

is there any graft for minion ?

https://poedb.tw/us/Grafts

can't see it

[elfin shale]

Summoning Tulgraft

The Great Avalanche

[plush gulch]

oh i missed this one

my eyes

are bade

bad

THANKS

so I aim for tuulgraft in my tree

as you see im kind of a racer

@rancid sluice do you know minions that are cool ? maybe skeletoon warrior ?

I don't think i want to build around srs which im using now for campaign

[crisp plinth]

phantasms with soulwrest are pretty good for lower budgets

[rancid sluice]

srs is probably the easiest to get through the campaign with, or absolution

[plush gulch]

i was asking for after since you told me tiger are forever out of reach

of my peasant hands

[rancid sluice]

oh

well if not srs, youve got hroc, dark pact, full spectres, um, im sure im missing a few others

[crisp plinth]

ranged animate weapons is also good but a bit spammy in terms of buttons

[rancid sluice]

theres a lot of decent minion builds right now

[plush gulch]

how are summon skeleton?

[rancid sluice]

eh i dont think straight up summon skellies is a thing rn i could be wrong

[crisp plinth]

not great, pretty slow and die fast

[plush gulch]

insane how slow they are

im testing

zombie seems way better

[rancid sluice]

dark pact you summon them then blow them up with a chaos spell, its a 1-2 combo but it scales super high

[crisp plinth]

good part is your tree is the same or very similar anyway

[plush gulch]

what's hroc ?

[rancid sluice]

dp plays more like a caster though

holy relic

[plush gulch]

oh that seem annoying

also the name is scary it make me think I need to use some sword and when the minion die I need to buy another sword

[rancid sluice]

youve got three balls that hover around you when you shoot they run after it pop and dot it. spam a steel skill and let the balls clean up. thats roughly how relic works

[crisp plinth]

no you just use bladefall/trarthus bladefall and can use it

[plush gulch]

oh yeah if I remember you need to attack

like cyclone

or the steel skill

you said

[rancid sluice]

yeah it can be triggered however balormage is kind of the standard right now and hes using steel skill

[plush gulch]

seems less painful than my version