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[opaque sphinx]

can if u start a day or two late

[spice pecan]

probably, depends on how expensive the helm will be

[dreamy charm]

so then its either lightning conduit or reap then

[spice pecan]

its on ppl's radars as a levelling setup

so i can't imagine it being particularly free

[opaque sphinx]

true just do slams

[spice pecan]

[opaque sphinx]

impossible to fuck up and strong

[spice pecan]

can play lightning conduit of the heavens if you don't want to play 2 buttons

otherwise i've heard orb of storms + lightning conduit isn't like, terrible

at least for single target

[opaque sphinx]

yeh its not bad

[spice pecan]

i might just say fuck it and play totems again

[opaque sphinx]

i played LC ele

https://pobb.in/4cVY-l46SvwK

[spice pecan]

go ice spear totems right off the fuckin rip and see what happens lmao

who needs soul mantle or self-flagellation or 100% curse effect reduction

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/DQ6Rc-o7iSyS

https://pobb.in/GLEUBsibpKYL

for more budget setups

[plain wave]

Could anyone help me farm gold

[sage falcon]

what game is this evenfor

considering you posted this in both the poe1 and poe2 channels

[plain wave]

Yeah didn’t notice it said 2 on the other post til now was going to delete now sorry about that

[worldly wind]

this must be how brood war players felt when sc2 came out

[upbeat trail]

wow I got baited

Thought I finally found Aul, But it was Kurgal!!

[opaque sphinx]

aulmost

wadu hek muh streak

3 wokes 2 doms in 15 sirus

then only 1 dom in 15

how boring and small

[ocean field]

if you get "all damage can poison" using forbidden flesh can you use an ephermal edge trickster to stack flat lightning which will poison?

[opaque sphinx]

yes but u need chance to poison

[ocean field]

if I use bino

[opaque sphinx]

cant remember what bino does besides prolif

[ocean field]

I am sorry I meant viper strike manba

which has 60% chance poison on hit

https://pobb.in/0oXw-AdukAyv

[opaque sphinx]

u still need 40

[ocean field]

I can get the rest from these nodes

[ocean field]

does this build actually work?

I have made minimal changes to my previous sodj build

if this works decently with poison that would be awesome

[opaque sphinx]

is ur lethal pride in range to convert perfect agony

otherwise u need to rmeove it

these 2 keystones brick eachother if ur not converting one

u prob don't have enough multi to use PA anyway

[ocean field]

no so it fine I guess

[ocean field]

oh ok

removed pa

which of these 2 is better

right one is designed to maximize lightning damage

left is maximizing chaos and poison I assume

[opaque sphinx]

u have pob open sir just swap and test

[ocean field]

yeah I was just asking that if it makes sense

[opaque sphinx]

i mean i guess but pob will tell u optimal dps supports based on ur setup

[ocean field]

cause I still can't wrap my head around just changing 2 things and build is suddenly able to do poison damage

[opaque sphinx]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/LocoCocoa-1921/character/KeepItToYourself

socket ls of arcing into chest if u open pob, thats the skill i was using but i stole it for my jugg

https://pobb.in/hgGvXy-hpZTw

actually there

thats an older pob

but close enough

[ocean field]

ooh noice I see thanks

time to test ingame

[exotic widget]

anyone know how to add a specific timeless jewel to POB? like add the number to the jewel

[tranquil sedge]

copy paste the item into pob or create the item in pob

and u can click the 'edit' button to type the number manually if u prefer that

this is in the 'items' tab

@exotic widget

[exotic widget]

ty. i was editing and putting them inside the parentheses lol

[lapis sky]

Hello, do you know when the new season starts, or has it already started?

[split maple]

Sure it already started

9 weeks ago

[lapis sky]

No no, xd. The new season

[split maple]

Around late feb early march

Unless delays ofc

[opal ingot]

🥹

[unique silo]

damn t17s do be slapping wtf

[opal ingot]

they do be

once you get better they become more bearable

and soon you'll be farming them XD

combination of learning which map mods are bad

which combination is bad

how to make ur build better etc.etc.

poe.re helps in you filtering out map mods in t17s

while also letting you set a minimum more currency/quant/scarab

[unique silo]

tried one and i ended up needing help xd

but they are def fun

[bright edge]

How do I convince my friend to keep playing through act 1 of poe? I get act 1 is a nightmare for new players and a pretty mid impression of the whole game, but he gave up before fighting merveil…

[sage falcon]

how is it a nightmare

[sage falcon]

if you:

• keep eye out for weapons
• use gems and supports
• path tree reasonably

it cannot be that hard

[bright edge]

He’s playing bare handed marauder

[sage falcon]

well try telling him not to do that

i feel like most now-experienced players first did act 1 by themselves and enjoyed it

[bright edge]

He says he read somewhere barehanded was good

[sage falcon]

or maybe that's just speaking from my personal experience

[bright edge]

I did act 1 easy but damn he really is bad

[sage falcon]

if he's actively shooting himself in the foot, that'll do it

i would try to not let him get too confused with guides

and just try to get some grasp on the very basic fundamentals

[bright edge]

I’m telling him to follow pohx

[sage falcon]

that's a fair play as well

my only concern with exposure to the community and stuff like that is that it can set expectations for him

which can be upsetting to not hit

i.e. i was dogwater at the game when i first played, but because i had no expectations i still enjoyed it 100%

[whole bluff]

Ngl, if he is just playing with no weapon and no facebreaker, and for sure no doryanis fist cuz that's way too high lvl, that's not giving the game a chance not to shit on him

[split maple]

prolly read something about hollow palm

[grizzled lily]

when i played with others, i leveled up a new character jus to play the campaign with them

[split maple]

and didnt realize it needs a jewel and twink gear

[grizzled lily]

so they wont get bored and quit

[spice pecan]

so we were discussing this earlier re: bleed/damaging ailments but there's one thing i don't remember

% chance to ignore enemy pdr doesn't affect bleed damage whatsoever right

pob shows it as a slight dps increase but im guessing it's just looking at hit damage, so nvm i guess i answered my own question once again

[proud gorge]

huh, why are Abberath's Hooves like 20c right now

is there some build using them?

[spice pecan]

uhh, it's used for some fringe ignite prolif stuff

or it's used for double prolif since abberaths is a pseudo-prolif afaik

[split maple]

is 20c just dust price?

they be t1 right

[spice pecan]

could also be dust price yeah

[proud gorge]

ah, I suppose that makes some sense

people turning my favorite unique into dust smh

honestly I do need to buy a skin transfer for Abberath's Hooves at some point

[spice pecan]

i wanted to start collecting foil cyclopean coils but they're omega spendy

my fav unique that i never play

[split maple]

i think everything aberath needs to be used is like 25% ms instead of 15% and like +(80-100) life

a lot of these niche uniques could be "fixed" by just slaping on them some life

[proud gorge]

wait, the Skin Transfer MTX is single use?

why

[spice pecan]

isnt skin transfer like deprecated at this point

[proud gorge]

I mean, if I wanted the Abberath's Hooves 3d item art on another item, I think that's the only way to do it

apparently for PoE2 at least, they've vaguely said that they're probably working on a permanent "skin transfer" type MTX

but with no ETA or anything

[crimson spear]

Funny build making mistake I made.

Recently I started playing on my strongest character in Standard again after having not touched PoE as a whole in over a year. She's a Necromancer who uses the Aegis Aurora + Legacy Melding of the Flesh combo for high resistances. She doesn't benefit from many flasks, so the two flasks I was running were Rumi's Concoction for blocking and Ruby Flask to get -20% reduced fire damage taken from hits so I can farm Searing Exarch maps.

Well here's the thing. Today I decided to take a closer look at my flasks, and apparently they changed those flasks at some point. Instead of giving -20% reduced damage taken from hits of that type, they now give +5% maximum resist of that type. This means that

1. The implicit modifiers on the Ruby Flask were doing absolutely nothing
2. A Sapphire flask would've been SIGNIFICANTLY better for my build, and I was gimping my entire setup by not using one.

It's been rectified now, lol.

[grizzled lily]

[whole bluff]

The flasks change was in maybe 3.22, so not super long time ago

Legacy melding should be older than the flask change

[crimson spear]

I'll have to look into it. Maybe it was a mistake when I first built her.

[whole bluff]

Unless you built the char with legacy melding acquired in standard, the flask change came after

[crimson spear]

I'm trying to remember what league I made her in. It's been awhile.

I think Ritual?

No, I don't think Melding was in the game by then

I think Sentinel

I guess I'll look into it in the morning

[whole bluff]

Just some quick googling.

[whole bluff]

Seems the most likely yup

[crimson spear]

I remember that my Heist Ranger and my Necromancer are the only two truly successful characters I've ever made.

I don't follow build guides and just wing it with a new idea every league. Pure luck on if it ends up being viable.

[worldly bridge]

tytytyty harby

question

can this

maybe

drop as a "full stack"...?

[whole bluff]

Afaik yes

[worldly bridge]

O_O

[split maple]

chance to upgrade to orb can proc yeah

[worldly bridge]

GGG you son's of a bitch, youve done it again virtual drug hit

[split maple]

but like already getting mirror shards from harb is rare as fuck

[worldly bridge]

well i know what im farming for the rest of my life

[split maple]

orb upgrade procing on that...

[worldly bridge]

i already dropped one mirror last league

whats one more

[scarlet jacinth]

Tree is just a slot machine.

[whole bluff]

I had absolutely zero interaction with mirrors or shards until phrecia. Then I dropped 2 mirror shards (or rather a random harbie dropped mirror shards when @crystal talon showed his build) in phrecia. Then this league I got a mirror shard from ritual. Before that, closest I ever was was divination cards. And I played since 2013

[split maple]

i got a shard from ship once or twice and once from ritual, but i never did rly many harbs

like maybe i farmed 20 frac orbs overall leagues

[whole bluff]

I started to feel like it was overdue I get some interaction with mirrors

[scarlet jacinth]

Most i ever made was keepers, tree figured it was time to finally reward me. Full stack locks

[split maple]

holy that is some slot machine

[whole bluff]

I don't remember how many fractures I farmed in phrecia, but probably not an insane amount

[whole bluff]

Daaaaamn

[scarlet jacinth]

Now I've been procrastinating for the past 2 weeks on what todo with em

[worldly bridge]

full stack locks??

jesus

[scarlet jacinth]

First sorta "mirror tier drop* after playing casually since vaal

[whole bluff]

I did randomly corrupt into a supposedly like 60d foulborn bereks respite earlier this week

[whole bluff]

That's a long time

[scarlet jacinth]

There have been times where i skipped a league or 2.. so not consistent play

[worldly bridge]

+66 div

im gaming

[whole bluff]

I dropped soul taker in my first league, domination iirc? But I stacked rarity and then didn't know what to do with it anyway

[split maple]

idk what i am doing wrong with dmg, but looks like intstack can into some mf shenaningas: https://pobb.in/GyEZi2ZPbEx5

[whole bluff]

Meh, I had lowest bleed immune bereks respite at 63d. Didn't sell so I undercut myself by 8d, and it still doesn't sell

With shock explode

[scarlet jacinth]

I still have a penance helmet with all the right influence mods and open prefix to allow rerolling for conc.. cheapest by like 10div and has been for sale for like a week

[worldly bridge]

kill me kill me

[kindred silo]

isnt it just worse than regular implicit respite

[worldly bridge]

this was NOT on purpose

[frigid wedge]

esm tries not to reroll 8x per league

gone wrong

[scarlet jacinth]

I wanne say something but i did 5 builds myself..

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[whole bluff]

32% total res? Idk

[frigid wedge]

for once ive only made 1 build

[split maple]

its not so much rerolling than respecing into lategame cmon

like my cws will need something to do for last month

[scarlet jacinth]

Start a char, bring it to maps, feel like i got bored, level another char, repeat 4 times and finally actually progress

Now to find something to play for pohx private league..

[frigid wedge]

i should play the pohx league

for leaguestart experience

[scarlet jacinth]

Eh its something todo, and leaguestart is fun

[frigid wedge]

i hate leaguestart w a passion and dont wanna play the game rn

but i need to get better at leaguestarting

[scarlet jacinth]

Still dunno what to play. Thinking srs into animate weapon

[frigid wedge]

pathfinder

[scarlet jacinth]

What even

[frigid wedge]

tr

idk

i keep doing builds ive never played as starters

[scarlet jacinth]

Thats why i figured srs, i never did it before properly

[frigid wedge]

yeah idk

i should play minions

but tr pf transitions rlly well into heist beasts and lab

but either way theres always fuck all items in pohx league

[scarlet jacinth]

I was thinking srs as it doesn't really require anything special, lab for a bit hoping for the much needed gems for animate weapon and swap. Then essences or something

[eternal hill]

SRS should be pretty strong start in keepers with abundant supply of envy swords

[split maple]

I am still chilling on 39/40

[scarlet jacinth]

I haven't even looked into srs haha. I just remembered it being fairly comfy

[eternal hill]

it has gone up and down

[scarlet jacinth]

Mmhm i see, honestly i just want a necro for the swap on day2/3

[split maple]

Why not elementalist before swap

Like it's rly comfy this leg

[eternal hill]

but necro + envy sword available from white maps is really dumb

you just need to pivot some resources to get poison chance onto the minions

[scarlet jacinth]

Poison srs.. maybe

Last time i looked srs it was all about "popcorn srs'

[gritty epoch]

Graft need %melee

[frigid wedge]

i just wanna not play another witch unless im trauma stacking

[scarlet jacinth]

Leaguestart autobomber.. it'll be fine..

[frigid wedge]

which one

[scarlet jacinth]

No clue. It was merely meant as a joke

[hoary scarab]

trauma stack irl

[scarlet jacinth]

That's called poe2

[frigid wedge]

what if lightning arrow autobomber

lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

That's a thing??

[frigid wedge]

yeaah

it was one of the 2 main builds in merc league used for alva

iirc

[scarlet jacinth]

Ah i was preoccupied with flicker bullshit once again that league

[frigid wedge]

well la elementalist was

but there was a setup that just used numlock automation or smth

and it autobombed

[scarlet jacinth]

Numlock setup, getting last epoch vibes just hearing about that one

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[scarlet jacinth]

Ow well. After a bit of looking srs it'll be for pohx league.

[frigid wedge]

i still dont wanna play it

[scarlet jacinth]

Till i hopefully can buy a not too stupidly priced animate weapon

[scarlet jacinth]

Too bad, suffer

[frigid wedge]

maybe i will

[scarlet jacinth]

Good

[frigid wedge]

but i still have no build to play

but also like

pohx league feels like a waste of time

its ssf but like half committed

plus there were already barely any ppl this league

now cut it down by 8x

[scarlet jacinth]

Eh i don't mind it personally, i just needed something todo

[frigid wedge]

i been playn Minecraft

[scarlet jacinth]

I've been playing once human

[frigid wedge]

and avoiding the mod the entirety of the modpack is based around

[eternal hill]

its green gem, just lock yourself in merclab for 6h

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea tho i also want bladefall of thra.. whatever its spelled

[frigid wedge]

go heist

or expedition

[scarlet jacinth]

Huh wasn't that bladefall of thra.. a lab gem now? Or is it heist?

[split maple]

now i rly wish unstables were a thing that exists

[grizzled lily]

heist

[frigid wedge]

all trarthan gems are exclusive to gem reward tiles in expedition or heist

[scarlet jacinth]

Well fuck

[frigid wedge]

yeup

[scarlet jacinth]

Gem reward tiles, wouldn't that also include the legion gem one's? Legion did have gem reward one's right

[frigid wedge]

idk

i think exped tiles have their own pool

logbook

[scarlet jacinth]

Here i wanted to start off with blighted maps for bubblegum.. guess it'll be expedition

[split maple]

patch notes only mention heist

ig its a bug expedition can also drop them

recycling loot tables?

[frigid wedge]

the fact that its ONLY the logbook chests is kinda interesting tho

[scarlet jacinth]

Global tables? Gem_reward just used in like multiple mechanics or something

[frigid wedge]

so i doubt they care

[split maple]

and its for sure not all logbook chests being same as heist ones

since ik jewelry ones in logbooks are way way more shit than in heist

[frigid wedge]

[eternal hill]

if it was global table, Legion and blight should be able to drop em as well

[split maple]

"can we add gem chests to logbooks?" "sure, tho i just got coffe brewing, no time to code, lets just pull reference from heist, i am sure that wont bite us back in 10 yo"

[lime marlin]

are there gonna be core 2026 supporter packs?

[frigid wedge]

they generally make new supporter packs when there's a new league

iirc

[scarlet jacinth]

Telling the poor intern to use heist as a reference.

[lime marlin]

They did it so far before the new year, I dont remember the last time it wasnt like that

[frigid wedge]

they don't rlly seem to give a shit about us anymore anyway

[steel light]

new social media account, who's tis?

[scarlet jacinth]

Couldn't care less as long as we get leagues with atleast some neat features

[steel light]

u're getting something worse than keeper, u can do nothing, or like it

[scarlet jacinth]

Ignore the mechanic and just play and enjoy fresh league

[frigid wedge]

cant do that this league bc it eats half the native mobs in the map 70% of the time

unless t17

[steel light]

and those fucking walls

[tranquil sedge]

its fine if u don't care
it still doesn't make it any less crap of a league

especially the economy experience which is a large draw for the people playing trade league

[steel light]

i ignored the damn breach did ultimatum, trial was kill waves, i afked and found out the ultimatum mobs got stuck by the fucking walls

[scarlet jacinth]

Ow yea definitely i mean sure i said "i don't care" but i would like it much more if the league mechanic was better.

[tranquil sedge]

league mechanic (tree) helped obliterate prices of many currency items and a large amount of ground loot (bases) and mid to moderately high level crafted gear

and bad long-term progression in terms of endgame (map juicing, difficulty ceiling, gutted league mechanics)

those two things definitely did a lot to make the league worse tbh

i think if the endgame wasn't so gutted, and the tree was actually balanced somehow

ppl probably woulda sucked it up (the breach mechanic) and played it anyway

[scarlet jacinth]

Mechanic was quite annoying with some farming strats.. definitely annoying

[frigid wedge]

please can we not return to the hour long discussion about the tree again

xD

[tranquil sedge]

lmao fair enough

im gonna go eat lunch then 😄

[scarlet jacinth]

I like tree, tree gave me profit.

[split maple]

dont insult the allmighty hh printer 😛

[tranquil sedge]

my tinfoil hat theory is the more i complain about things here, even if its something ive complained about it 100 times before, the better

because even 0.1% increased chance that it makes itsway to jonathon and mark (mainly mark really) somehow and influences the game, is still big win

[scarlet jacinth]

No hh for me, but full locks stack.. soo i don't mind it one bit

[split maple]

tho i rly should go farm some blood and stuff but ik that will burn me out real quick

it gets stale awful fast

[tranquil sedge]

like all the changes they did for melee in 3.25 are exactly literally the things i said would make melee 'fixed' (not that it was a difficult conclusion to arrive at, number up go brr)

and same for betrayal (tho that still needs some work in terms of rewards), basically all the things i kept saying

-# so surely tinfoil hat theory is valid

[split maple]

srev pls start saying buff sanctum a lot

[tranquil sedge]

ive been saying that since the day reddit got it nerfed

[scarlet jacinth]

I never went out of my way to farm it either, i just clicked the circles when i ran past doing boxes.. far too annoying

[tranquil sedge]

even mark said they rushed that shit out it was 100% a 'appease reddit' button they pressed

sanctum needs buffs lol

[scarlet jacinth]

Gib tota instead

[frigid wedge]

sanctum is balanced in purely trade environment rn

[tranquil sedge]

how so

[split maple]

i would rly like tota back in game just to have active source of tats

waiting for ships aint it

[tranquil sedge]

id love more things back but only because i want more core mechanics not less/stagnated count

like i dont think i'd touch tota at all if it came back in a trade league

but still good for ppl who enjoy it yea

[frigid wedge]

bc theres way less raw currency but balance of terror prices have quadrupled bc no one is running it so when running blood of innocence (as most ppl do once theyre into it properly) you can make guaranteed 3d per run if u sell unid or up to 300d for 1 balance

for ssf its less helpful than it should be tho

[split maple]

uping avg to 2 raw div per run would make balances cheaper tho, i think that would be good change

[frigid wedge]

but if ur properly committed to sanctum ur making 20d an hour on trade if u sell unid balances

maybe 24

[split maple]

a tad more even, you get relic back often

[frigid wedge]

sanctums have never been high currency per hour tho, they have always been low variance decent currency

so in a trade environment its fine

[tranquil sedge]

but i feel like the less raw currency part isn't exactly a win tho?

• having a source of divines is not bad in any league mode because in ssf you are limited by how many sanctum books u got and u can't target farm them, and in trade league well it's not going to be enough to affect the market substantially
• more source of divine is good for casual player, esp. if it can be target farmed
• reddit cried about how op sanctum was early on but they ignored that high end strats (i.e. pre-3.27 nerfs) easily outpaced that div/hr without effort
• you do need to invest in relics to get ur kinda div/hr, and need to play a sanctum-specific build

the way they cried about it would be like if someone cried about heist, like i guarantee if heist currency chests got a small buff reddit will start bitching about that

[frigid wedge]

no one opens heist chests

they wouldnt notice

[tranquil sedge]

• dont forget you can literally print divines with bzanth shipments

[tranquil sedge]

l0l

i think i just dislike how rushed the nerf was overall

[split maple]

you can target farm tomes tho

betrayal

[tranquil sedge]

there's a reward for tomes?

[frigid wedge]

ppl complain about sanctum bc its consistent and the profit isnt 5d per hour on that consistency, and the vast majority of the ppl that complain run strats with very high variance that cost 2 to 3d per map

[split maple]

elreon in transport

but like its not needed, i got half a stash tab of them stockpiled just maping

[steel light]

what do u do with kingsmarch bars? just for rare equipments?

[tranquil sedge]

if ur saying that the people complaining about how op sanctum was were running high variance strats nah no way dude they were the andys on reddit bitching about how other people got rich doing sanctum by farming sanctum builds

[split maple]

send to tattoo ports

[tranquil sedge]

nobody who was making money in any way off sanctum was complaining about it

it was everyone else

[frigid wedge]

but the same ppl also take a week to finish atlas and make no currency while they do so they will complain about sanctum players who dont finish atlas making currency

[tranquil sedge]

TIL new info

[tranquil sedge]

YES

that exactly lmao

[frigid wedge]

which is true for anything out of atlas

[tranquil sedge]

if those ppl just did their own shit and ignored sanctum they'd be making double digit div/hr by day 3 on their own just fine 😂

[split maple]

yeah for some reason they are map fragments in that context

[tranquil sedge]

its good

[split maple]

like dude has sac, mortal frags and tomes

[tranquil sedge]

betrayal needs rewards that people want to farm

that sounds like a good reward tile honestly

[frigid wedge]

ppl selling boss carries week 1 make like 80d an hour, literally anything out of atlas early league is very strong

other than delve

[tranquil sedge]

yup

which is why reddit crying about sanctum was just them going for the easiest target

which is at least half of why the nerf is so annoying

[frigid wedge]

half the reason sanctum players made so much early is bc they played 19 hours a day

[tranquil sedge]

they did say update at some point so ig not all doom and gloom

yeaa but at that point anyone can make money that fast

like print legion first 3 days ur gaming

[frigid wedge]

yeah

i think the other issue ppl had is if ur not into it day 1 ur punished less

but again

[tranquil sedge]

100% would bet money they know that but all they saw was 'sanctum drops RAW divines' and cried immediately

[frigid wedge]

play more, whine less, dont go do atlas points

money

[split maple]

sanctum legstart was always balanced by not having atlas done and functional mapper at the end of it

[tranquil sedge]

like 20d/hr in loot or 20d/hr in divines is the same fucking thing

but one of them is a prime target for nerf over the other, with reddit

[frigid wedge]

sanctum leaguestart doesnt even have a10 done

[tranquil sedge]

yea it was all what glass cannons lmao

zoom boom builds

[frigid wedge]

nah they just didnt finish acts bc the res penalty

[split maple]

i would do a10, like how painge leveling in heist is and the issue with supply of low lvl tomes...

i tried skiping a10 once i wouldnt again

[frigid wedge]

sanctum is VERY GOOD for xp

[split maple]

yeah but you have one quest tome

and then short short supply of low lvl ones

[frigid wedge]

as someone who only actually played sanctum in phrecia

its amazing xp

[pulsar dune]

No way you take alira twice on a sanctum runner smh

[split maple]

like didnt you need to drop to heist for a few levels or was supply ok?

[frigid wedge]

u need 2c for low lvl tomes

[tranquil sedge]

question
if ur not selling boss carries, what's the realistic div/hr from delving? like whatever 'optimal' delving is?

[frigid wedge]

if u get a single reward tile for chaos u can afford to get another

it might be diff now bc ppl buy low ilvl for bloodline

but when i was doing it as long as u had 1 tome u could go for as long as u wanted to

[split maple]

yeah if there is enough tomes to cover leveling its alright, i think i did sanctum start in some event or smh

so low playerbase

[tranquil sedge]

i can't imagine that's changed

[frigid wedge]

the entire sanctum thing originally started bc they didnt have to spend 2mir on idols to make 20d/hr in phrecia tho

[frigid wedge]

u generally get some currency from ur quest tome, buy ok gear, jump to 75, buy a tiny bit more gear and then jump to 83 iirc

but the first 98 i got was a sanctum build

[split maple]

yeah last leg i was hitting 5% a tome at lvl97, its pretty quick

[frigid wedge]

u gotta remember its all unique mobs and u literally never die

[split maple]

almost ready to hit them sanctums

[frigid wedge]

i still think the herald elementalist is shit for sanctum

[split maple]

i am not leveling an inquis

[frigid wedge]

ok

[tranquil sedge]

i assume the numbers ur giving are not counting chance of osin scripture drop right

[split maple]

but yeah its for sure shitter than something with brand range

[frigid wedge]

but im pretty sure occultist pbrand would still be better suited

[tranquil sedge]

level a ranger instead and go play tornado shot deadeye 😄

[frigid wedge]

u just get bloodline node for ignore light res with synaptic ring

[split maple]

i would do occy if i had pc ralas

[frigid wedge]

ig so

yeah i think badge+synaptic occultist is better than herald stack for sanctum

[split maple]

that ralakesh change is hella annoying not being divinable -.- got all the pieces except pc rala

[frigid wedge]

u lose like a third of ur dps on herald stack to drop the herald clusters

and past about 45m dps the only stats that matter for sanctum pb are ms and attachment range

and ms is optional if u wintry spam

also imma be real u dont even need pc ralakesh

if ur cast speed is high

frenzy charge ralakesh is probably better

with replica restless

and badge

pcharge stack pbrand pulses FAST

[split maple]

i got fc ralas 🤔

so you just rely on regaining pc fast enough to not care bout malachai loop?

[frigid wedge]

no you just dont use malachai

u use cast speed wands iirc

[split maple]

got any pob? i dont see anyone on ninja doing that setup

[frigid wedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Fr1quent-6741/SHLYAPA_S_USAMI

not with synaptic here

cryonic might b better depending on hatred strength

void battery is fine too obv

[split maple]

Eh grand spectrums ouch

[frigid wedge]

id have to pob it properly but ur basically just levering breachlord res ignore and building an inquis

[split maple]

Tho are they even needed

Like I dont see a PC spender

[frigid wedge]

reduces ramp

[tranquil sedge]

if you have 3 minimum charges and 3 maximum charges can you do things that 'consume' charges infinitely?

how does charge consumption work w/ min charges

[frigid wedge]

it doesnt

for purpose of consuming the minimum is the new 0

[tranquil sedge]

so you have to increase max charge limit and gain charges before you can do that then?

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[tranquil sedge]

(not you you just in general i mean)

[frigid wedge]

that setup isnt consuming

if my max is less than min its capped to ur max

[tranquil sedge]

i think i worded my question not well but i got my answer anyway lol ty

[split maple]

if you are consuming charges for reason you dont use spectrums

if you are lossing them due to malachai loop bullshit tho 😄

[tranquil sedge]

gotcha

[devout widget]

Yo guys, is there a way, to NOT reach maximum power charges? and just stay 0ne charge short?

[frigid wedge]

lose them over time or on use

[tranquil sedge]

spend them faster you gain them ^

[frigid wedge]

or just get ur min to 1 less than ur max

[tranquil sedge]

fun item for that

[whole bluff]

Btw, if you have -2 minimum power charges and use discharge with 5 charges, you still only go boom like 5 right?

[tranquil sedge]

min floor is 0

[split maple]

you have 0 minimum pc

[whole bluff]

Makes sense

[frigid wedge]

theres a jewel that loses 1 pc per sec

[tranquil sedge]

Oo

[split maple]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Replica_Powerlessness

[devout widget]

hmmm, is there a way to become full immune to shock apart from the flasks?

[split maple]

charge mastery

[devout widget]

from templar side of the tree

[split maple]

you cannot be shocked while at maximum pc

[tranquil sedge]

does it matter immunity or just avoid is also ok

[frigid wedge]

purity, tempest shield, ailment avoid jewel

[whole bluff]

100% chance to avoid is effectively immunity. Also sabo ascendancy, verusos battering ram iirc?

[tranquil sedge]

also shock avoid abyss jewel, shock avoid flask suffix, etc

[whole bluff]

Purity of elements

[frigid wedge]

u can get 100% shock avoid on just boots

[tranquil sedge]

yup

eldrithc implicit + essence explicit

[devout widget]

Trying to not get shocked from this

[frigid wedge]

but 99% of the time u go for 100% chance to avoid

[whole bluff]

Stormshroud go brrrr

[frigid wedge]

[devout widget]

unique or a mod?

[split maple]

thats the easiest

also the nodes around that mastery are kinda cool for what you doing prolly

[frigid wedge]

tree

but no 3% dmg per charge

[devout widget]

oooh, thanks bro, i already have those nodes, just never picked the mastery.

[devout widget]

but with the malachai loop, i will still get spell dmg right?

[frigid wedge]

yes

[frigid wedge]

i meant bc another charge mastery is 3% per and u normally only take 1 charge wheel

[split maple]

and you are hopefuly handling pc loss from malachai

[gritty epoch]

Bring back old ralakesh

[scarlet jacinth]

Many updates and changed I'd love to see reverted

[devout widget]

im using a spell, so i guess its worth it to lose the 3%, plus i get ES with it

[frigid wedge]

yeah esm if u look into occultist id suggest u grab an inquis pob, try to keep it via ur convert mods to either lightning or cold (literally just try to convert as much to 1 as u can) and use breachlord node for 2x cryonic Res ignore or 2x synaptic

or just find an occultist pob

just filter ninja by replica restless

but if its a pcharge stacker setup u can usually just slap it on occultist and have it work

[split maple]

prolly lightning then, kinda annoying getting cold convert without call of brotherhood

just needs enough dps to not care about not freezing, which like aint issue

why are you tempting me into reroll #9 tho

[frigid wedge]

i was mentioning it so that u weren't disappointed by ur build being poor for sanctum xD

in terms of range

also i meant convert from ur gloves

u can get convert prefix twice and implicit convert

bc ur already getting loads from hatred

issue is that lightning gives u gem levels so i genuinely have no idea

[split maple]

yeah but you are mixed ele by default due to pbod's inherent phys to light and you cannot get 2x same element on gloves right? unless you unveil on temple mod base idk

well 2x as explicit

[devout widget]

btw Sans what build you playing now? if you are playing Keepers league

[frigid wedge]

explode

[frigid wedge]

yeah fair point

[split maple]

oh dont worry global is full of folks complaining about excelent visual clarity provided by heralds and golems in their quest tomes for bloodline

[frigid wedge]

the issue isnt even visual

[devout widget]

fun

[frigid wedge]

its the dps reliance on mediums

[split maple]

let me see how much i would lose by going for brand ones anyways

[frigid wedge]

3 remarkable grand designs

and attach on gloves

but cast speed still sucks ass too

so ramp time is longer and time to actually place it on floor is longer

[split maple]

yeah almost half of dmg goes away

i am gonna do attach gloves first anyways, cba to farm harbs and first 3 fracs missed

so cannot do them fancy fossil ones anyways yet

[frigid wedge]

so in summary, u cant see, u cant hit things from as far, u have to pay more attention for the aiming, ur ramp is slower and u cant panic drop brands to prevent damage

and ur dps isnt even better

[golden moat]

its totem time for pohx league https://pobb.in/yyEJC0bOcJ6K

[frigid wedge]

yeah somewhat

[scarlet jacinth]

Remember the economy is a lil different in pohx, lightning coil probably won't be cheap

[frigid wedge]

iirc last pohx it took 3 days for a cloak of flame to even be on trade

[scarlet jacinth]

As someone that wanted to play cws, yea i felt that one

[golden moat]

i assume by the point i have a +1 totem shield with 100% spell damage life and res, i wont be too pressed lol

[scarlet jacinth]

Fair enough just a heads up some uniques are popular to the point they don't show up as quickly as normal

[golden moat]

supply and demand is a thing indeed

i did in fact play keepers

[scarlet jacinth]

Low retention leagues aren't nearly as bad as private leagues

[frigid wedge]

its nothing alike

[split maple]

lightning coil has easily farmable card tho

while cloak of flame is paingeish

[golden moat]

its foulborn version

and i dont need it for the build

so

silly argument

[frigid wedge]

people started keepers and with async a lot of stuff stayed in rotation

if no one starts pohx theres nothing to stay in rotation

its not like keepers at all

[marsh aspen]

Heyo, how do you join this upcoming private league ?

[frigid wedge]

ur gonna have max like 2k players

[scarlet jacinth]

The fact its a foulborn pretty much increases the odds of it taking a while to hit market

[golden moat]

why is this a point of contention?

[frigid wedge]

bc pohx leagues already have no loot and its keepers so there already wasn't

[tranquil sedge]

i don't think its a point of contention i think they were just trying to remind you

[golden moat]

yea ive played private leagues before

thanks guys

[scarlet jacinth]

I merely wanted to give you a heads up about private leagues often result in certain items taking a while to hit market

[split maple]

you can prolly just settle on doppy

like its generic defensive chest

stormshroud gonna be the hard part

[tranquil sedge]

is doppy the chest u get by selling a sock to the vendor 😄

[marsh aspen]

Are there going to be more players on regular than on the private ?

[golden moat]

indeed, if they picked this instead of lightning coil to pick on... id understand a little more

[frigid wedge]

when we answer things, unless we frequently see someone around the server we're always gonna assume that ur an idiot with no experience in anything bc theres a lot of them and it means we spend less time explaining if the original explanation is suited to an idiot

[scarlet jacinth]

No clue what will happen in the future

[tranquil sedge]

well even with how absolutely dogshit the retention is right now there are still 10k+ steam players in keepers

and steam to standalone is 60:40 or so we've been told a long time ago in the past

[golden moat]

what were u answering?

[split maple]

yo almost not the worst league anymore

[tranquil sedge]

LOL

-# i only showed 8 leagues

[frigid wedge]

stormshroud is more likely to be in trade, bc ppl go for unique jewels with tree

[tranquil sedge]

so private league will almost certainly have fewer people and those ppl gonna quit faster

we've seen it before with the ones in 3.25

[golden moat]

its more in demand and will be harder to get than lightning coil which not that many people use

[frigid wedge]

maybe yeah

[limpid prairie]

Why was keepers so bad for retention again?

[frigid wedge]

bc they nerfed loot massively and provided inadequate new content

[split maple]

kinda disapointing league mechanic, loot nerfs, poe2 launch in the middle

[tranquil sedge]

many reasons including bad league mechanic bad crafting system changes bad endgame changes bad lack of patches and also poe2 exists

[golden moat]

OP items out the gate made end game farming for crafting good items trivial

[tranquil sedge]

thats not an exhaustive list but is some of the main reasons

[frigid wedge]

there's just no content that makes it worth it to farm for good items

[tranquil sedge]

^^

[frigid wedge]

bc other than blight there is NOTHING difficult that's worth doing

[scarlet jacinth]

Boxes?

[split maple]

kulemak trust

boxes are doable on weekend1 gear

[scarlet jacinth]

Fair enough

[frigid wedge]

kulemak farm requires memory of disbelief to be worth it

so 1/7 maps actually has loot

[split maple]

if that each time someone posts 1 t0 per 20 maps strat its for me personally 1 t1 per 30 maps

[limpid prairie]

Why make harder content when you can nerf everyone so the content is now more relevant

[split maple]

then they need to nerf builds more tho that will be shitfest for retention

[golden moat]

killing end game is part of GGGs plan to sunset PoE 1, like these trash league remakes that make the mechanics less enjoyable

[frigid wedge]

they didnt nerf us, they nerfed the loot from doing maps

and nerfed every strat that dropped stuff

[scarlet jacinth]

I have that with profit crafts.. "just hit this 1 in 4" while i will fail it 12 times in a row

[frigid wedge]

we went from a league where everyone had free extra quant to a league where map mod effect is halved and t17s have same quant as a t16

[split maple]

Like difficulty fell enough game has wander meta

[tranquil sedge]

i assume this is mocking the ggg response

and not an actual take right

[limpid prairie]

I think that's the issue, there should be money to be made but it should be harder
Make items drop only from the settlers mechanic
Time gate progression
Retention goes up
Profit

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[split maple]

I mean for raw currencies its kinda ships and mappers already

[limpid prairie]

Oh no, I'm just proposing increasingly dumb solutions for the shake of it

[split maple]

Like if I need divs I wait a week

[golden moat]

remove kingsmarch from the game and lets pretend the 1 year league never happened

[tranquil sedge]

still can't tell if troll or mocking

[limpid prairie]

That one person who makes weird builds said kings march was terrible for casuals

[tranquil sedge]

that's objectively untrue

[frigid wedge]

kingsmarch makes being a casual sm easier tho

[tranquil sedge]

its probably one of the best things to happen to casuals in ages

[scarlet jacinth]

Ow?

[devout widget]

Do helmets not have alot of Energy Shield? most i have seen is on unique items

[frigid wedge]

u log on once a week and send a 50m and then go play smth else

[golden moat]

it has warped the game into a mandatory, profit-dominated “mobile farming” loop that pressures daily play, devalues actual mapping and monster killing, and likely contributes to global loot nerfs

[split maple]

Proper lich circlet is like 500es?

[frigid wedge]

500 ish is high es helm

[tranquil sedge]

wrong wrong and wrong

[split maple]

And don't forget mastery for double ES from helmet

[golden moat]

found the kingsmarch STAN

[tranquil sedge]

you have to play the game to benefit from it
whatever it adds is consumed by players
it in fact makes mirrors more accessible to most people

[devout widget]

is it that high on rare/crafted helmets?

[tranquil sedge]

the only part of what you said that has any truth in it is the upkeep

[frigid wedge]

literally buy 1 gold rota, put gold into kingsmarch, send large shipment and use value from shipment to buy new gold rotas

[tranquil sedge]

but guess what the upkeep on farmers is trivial as fuck

upkeep on a bad set of t5 farmers is like 400k gold a day

[split maple]

thats a rare

[devout widget]

thats why i want a high ES one

[tranquil sedge]

that's fuckall gold

[split maple]

i sustain full t5 farmers and ships for a week just from weekend maping + mapers during weekends

[golden moat]

wdym I have to play the game? i can literally just get a gold carry and never map

[lean nova]

anyone know how to fix instance disconnects?

[split maple]

like full t5 farmers is what 15k gold a hour

[tranquil sedge]

oh so you mean its even easier than you described to upkeep then

[split maple]

while one scarb farm t17 is already 40-60k gold and blight is like half a mil

[frigid wedge]

i havent played since friday or smth and im p sure i still have my kingsmarch with 4m gokd

[golden moat]

i dont think u read what i wrote, especially since u responded to what i said in .3 miliseconds with "wrong wrong and wrong"

[tranquil sedge]

i read all of what you wrote

it was all incorrect

[frigid wedge]

believe it or not we read at a decent speed

[split maple]

i think kingsmarch being best raw currency farm for effort required is sadge, but idt its badly balanced... the rest of game is

[devout widget]

ah i see, 500 is like a mirror in trade and 400 is like a Divine

[split maple]

what its 30min of recombinator

[frigid wedge]

kingsmarch can be maintained through gold rotas u can purchase every like 2 weeks that take 20nminutes

[devout widget]

im not gonna buy anyway, ill craft and see where that takes me

[tranquil sedge]

it has warped the game into a mandatory, profit-dominated “mobile farming” loop that pressures daily play, devalues actual mapping and monster killing, and likely contributes to global loot nerfs
it's not mandatory, at most you'd be lucky to make maybe half a mirror over 2 months or so

it doesn't pressure daily play because you literally wrote yourself you can buy one gold rota and then not need to log in for a week after that, and 50m shipments take 8 days to send out at maximum speed

and even if you don't you can just map for like 20-30 minutes MAX and upkeep farmers just fine, which are the main currency making

it doesn't devalue shit because mirrors are always in demand, this just makes them slightly more accessible

global loot nerfs because of it? we literally had mercenaries last league hello and that was global loot buffs

[frigid wedge]

plus if ur actually doing optimal farming kingsmarch shipments provide like 3h of currency

[tranquil sedge]

believe it or not, some of us do read fast enough indeed

[split maple]

just get 9 helmet

alt spam them until t1 prefix

recombi 1 + 1 into 33% for 2 then 2 + 2 for 30% for 3

[steel light]

liar, that rate doesn't work 👀

[golden moat]

Claiming it doesn’t affect loot balance ignores basic economic design: massive passive currency injection always results in global loot nerfs elsewhere. Nice try tho

[scarlet jacinth]

We could buff loot without any issues its a player run economy anyways so prices will scale accordingly, it would make certain parts of the game more attractive to casual players. For example mirrors or high end crafts that require allot of rolls.

[split maple]

rng is a skill issue which is why i only do at most 2 mod recombs

[tranquil sedge]

also you're missing how (a) kingsmarch adds value to unique items by making them dust materials, this is a very nice addition to the game, and (b) it's incredibly good for casuals because shipments exist and well if they nerf endgame to cater to casuals (which doesn't work anyway, but that's an aside) then its easier for them to get rich

[split maple]

my rng is ass

[frigid wedge]

kingsmarch primarily reduces the value of mirrors, which is purely beneficial for the playerbase

[steel light]

2p+2p = 1p

[split maple]

congrats on hitting 10% outcome 🥳

[limpid prairie]

"Tenosyn" made a video of everything bad with PoEs current state if you want to keep on bickering

[tranquil sedge]

massive passive currency injection always results in global loot nerfs elsewhere
literally the first word is incorrect - it's not massive

you're also somewhat assuming the nerfs would be a direct result of buffs but no, ggg is extremely nerf-heavy by default

[steel light]

it's the most common, i can't even work away with 59% for some reason

[tranquil sedge]

the 'massive' currency injection is in fact pretty medicore and takes forever to happen

and its also in fact mostly in the form of mirror shards

[golden moat]

Ok so you only care about mirror price and trade league? The main issue here is that Kingsmarch shifts reward away from actually playing the game and into idle systems, which makes mapping, bossing, and monster killing trivial and thats a big issue in an ACTION RPG

[tranquil sedge]

mirrors are an *extremely * consumed item

[split maple]

kingsmarch wouldnt be issue if rest of the game had better loot

[tranquil sedge]

the more mirrors there are, the more accessible they become, the more players consume them, the price goes up again

mirror shards literally do not matter if they get a source for them even if they are passive

[limpid prairie]

The contrary could also be said xD

[tranquil sedge]

they will still be expensive

[tranquil sedge]

the contrary is a shit game

[pulsar dune]

Honestly crafting is too expensive. Mageblood is one of the strongest nigh-universal items in the game and most players will drop like one per year unless they target farm it, and it's priced like a midrange rare item.

[tranquil sedge]

loot nerfs are never enjoyable for players lol

[frigid wedge]

kingsmarch over the course of a week produces maybe 6h of running a decent atlas worth of currency

[limpid prairie]

Yeah that one take has no grip

[pulsar dune]

Kingsmarch is 2.5shards per 8 days, no?

[tranquil sedge]

you can see the player retention in 3.19, 3.23, 3.27 and any other shit league that had loot nerfs or broken crafting mechanics

[tranquil sedge]

after you dust 25m worth of uniques yeah

[frigid wedge]

smth like that

[tranquil sedge]

and you can still get unlucky, that's only the average

[scarlet jacinth]

Someone pull up the retention of the super juice leagues

[split maple]

like my personal pet peeves this league are 1. 2x nemeses scarb farm isnt sustainable (like making that scarb ~20% more common would be wet dream come true), 2. tattoss have no active source, are passive only (lost shipments DO NOT count) - bring back tota ffs, 3. there is no strong enough raw currency farm (bring sanctum from 1div/tome avg to 2div/tome avg and you wont see me complain). kingsmarch compensates for 3. so just removing it without fixing either sanctum or bringing back juice to maps would just fuck ssf over

[tranquil sedge]

4. why farm endgame build if no endgame content to run
5. don't devalue entire mechanics like harbinger and ground loot bases by adding something as broken as tree without some semblance of balance

6. don't stop updating ur league so quickly ffs give it midleague buffs just for the sake of it

[split maple]

like if you want to have enough divs for metamod heavy crafts you need to do a week of ships then a few inscribed ultis, break your back sustaining mappers or do a gazilion maps

[tranquil sedge]

not letting that one go are you lmao

[frigid wedge]

7. people like seeing loot hit ground even if the relative value of their ground loot is the same

[tranquil sedge]

in 2030 harbingers will drop divine shards trust

[split maple]

like the only reason i am still playing this league is that there is 3 more builds i want to try 😄 that part of poe is hard carrying the league for me

[devout widget]

is this good for a EB build? or is there a better one?

[split maple]

thats a very good point - while i like how target farm heavy game is currently (need fracs do harbs, need beasts do beasts, need divs farm gold lol, ...) the lack of global drop dopamine is very fucking real

[tranquil sedge]

scarabs and map effect was probably a big chunk of that dopamine right

changes to* scarabs

[split maple]

getting 4 valdoes from juiced edifice map mmm

[umbral crag]

What farm is using nemesis actually? Harby beyond?

[pulsar dune]

Usually you'd use ivory tower, but ghostwrithe is good during acts and such

[split maple]

tho okay that was over the top

[tranquil sedge]

like just in raw numbers ur dropping way less now lol
not even factoring in merc 25% quant

[split maple]

nah you dont have space for these

2x nemeses 1x divinity 2x adversaries, atlas just all scarb nodes and shrines

grab hh and blast pretty much

[umbral crag]

Ahhh

Then for harby its just 4x harby and 1×invasion, or swap a harby for regency?

[split maple]

3x harb 1x regency 1x invasion

[umbral crag]

Was thinking if i wanna try replacing a harby with risk but ig not worth

Is regency that much better than just another harby?

[split maple]

but issue there is you have to roll maps more aggro (more lag so more map mods mess you up), maps are slower due to harbs being slowpokes

but you can sustain ig

[split maple]

yea

[frigid wedge]

foulborn ghostwrithe is very effective because the eblade less es mod doesnt work

but ur limited with ur es

[umbral crag]

U mean if i use a risk?

[split maple]

harb farm in general

[tranquil sedge]

3.28 is gonna be ur league 😄

[split maple]

but risk will have same issue

[scarlet jacinth]

Risk abyss was fun

[split maple]

like volatiles + shaper mod on harb map is hard no for me, due to shaper creating enough lag for volatiles to f you up

[umbral crag]

Hmmm fair

[frigid wedge]

the ONLY reason blight hasnt seen major nerfs is bc its too laggy for anyone to want to run it

[umbral crag]

I did one harby map earlier with risk and it was insane loot. Might be just one off luck

Maybe I'll try a few more just for the sake of it

[frigid wedge]

ggg is very bad at actually rebalancing atm

[split maple]

the peak of blight is having to dodge 128 volatiles at 3fps

[frigid wedge]

their way of balancing the last few years has been: make the playerbase want to jump off a bridge to use the broken stuff or have nothing strong

literally half the stuff thats op doesnt get nerfed bc ppl HATE dealing with the fake downsides that have no workarounds bc its fundamental issues rather than actual issues with the things

eg tinctures and blight

[devout widget]

aah, ill look into it

[frigid wedge]

tinctures are very strong, they are balanced bc no one wants to click them

[scarlet jacinth]

When i did es stack flicker 1 tincture was 45% dmg increase

[frigid wedge]

blight is very good for currency, it is balanced bc half the playerbase do not have a pc capable of processing it and the other half dont wanna hear the pc burn itself from the inside

[umbral crag]

Does king harbinger just spawn much more mobs hence being better?

Just wandering what makes it better for this farm

[split maple]

it spawns harbingers

[umbral crag]

So it spawns harbinher hence more monster from those harbingers then?

[split maple]

basically yeah

[umbral crag]

Hmmm gotcha, I'll try some

[scarlet jacinth]

Blight is also so comfy as a proper build lets you just afk it, or semi afk with a few towers. The lagg is just an unfortunate side effect. And sadly even with a fairly good pc ur still stuck at like 20fps

[split maple]

like compare /kills in 3x harb and 2xharb 1x regency map

i will be hella suprised if regency dont win out

[split maple]

not this sorta blight

[frigid wedge]

yes but ur pc sits next to you burning from the inside out

if ur not actively going over to kill the lanes

[tranquil sedge]

space heater in winter double duty

[scarlet jacinth]

I only touched ravaged this league, didn't try boss lanes one.

[umbral crag]

Not boss lane

[frigid wedge]

boss lane isnt worth it

[umbral crag]

Bloodline

[frigid wedge]

u juice magic

bc even spamming 40 unique mobs isnt good enough to drop anything anymore

[scarlet jacinth]

Bloodline i did do for a bit. And ravaged was definitely a bigger drain on my pc.

[split maple]

did that last week, needed to edit item filter 3x for game not to crash when loading map

[scarlet jacinth]

It took some like 5min to load into a map. Group play is kinda funny

[frigid wedge]

idk how

oh was the bloodlines group play

floris

[scarlet jacinth]

Yea bloodline

[frigid wedge]

yeah idk then

[steel light]

mageblood heavy belt

[scarlet jacinth]

It wasn't proper group play tho, just 3 of us curious if it worked at all. Most of it was tryna kill the last 1 or 2 immortal bosses slowly or getting 1 shot

[frigid wedge]

was ravaged laggier than when u got bismuth in ur bloodlines maps too?

i swear clicking bismuth sets my fps to 25 on its own

i hate bismuth with a passion

[scarlet jacinth]

Really depends on the tileset bloodlines maps that are very compact drains more then ravaged

[frigid wedge]

bc its so significant to ur loot but again

IT FEELS LIKE SHIT TO USE

wow ggg good balancing

[steel light]

it helps with gold drop cause i'm poor

[split maple]

this one wasnt, got mine from wretched cards

[scarlet jacinth]

Why make it easy on us right haha

[frigid wedge]

lets add 16 THOUSAND PARTICLES PER SCREEN INDIVIDUALLY RENDERED because ooh the strong stuff makes u Wanna die

[tranquil sedge]

its very pretty

that's the balance

[devout widget]

cant find any foulborne ghostwrithe in wiki

[frigid wedge]

its listed on ghostwrithe page

it says your max es is half ur max life

its a fixed value

so eblade can't reduce it

[whole bluff]

Foulborns are a bit messily shown on wiki

[devout widget]

oh got it, thanks.

does that mean i need to find a ghostwrithe with that mod, or i any will do?

[frigid wedge]

wtf is my discord doing

[scarlet jacinth]

Dual screen tech

[split maple]

"It's very pretty" - srev, 8. 1. 2026

[frigid wedge]

it was a suggestion to mention, it kinda needs specific build setup to be better

[devout widget]

does that mod come with all Ghostwrithe armor? or do i need the one that has that mod specifically?

[frigid wedge]

that mod

its foulborn

so u need to look for mod

[devout widget]

got it thanks

[tranquil sedge]

it's way more than enough

you need like 2.5-3m* to get 25m crops

rest of the gold is just dust some t0/t1/maybe t2 uniques, won't cost much gold u got enough, just a bunch of divs

[tawdry olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1q6wakv/faustus_bidding_bidding_system_to_the_merchant/

I’m laughing so hard lmao he got the entire village out to lynch him

[tranquil sedge]

LOL

ill upvote the fella

like imagine selling original mirror items, pre-mirror bases, or corrupted original mirror items, etc.

auction would be pretty cool for that

...tho some rich ppl would probably just be able to outbid everyone else but still cool in theory

[dark mesa]

Trying not to make a mistake, the stash tabs are getting a sale soon right?

[frigid wedge]

usually tab sale starts fri and ends Monday

[dark mesa]

I hope, I have literally less than 15 slots left in my stash, I’m attempting HC, ruthless, and SSF just to not overflow

[fickle glen]

My game is stuck in loading screen, is there a way out of it without relogging?

[tranquil sedge]

what stash tabs* ya got so far

[dark mesa]

Base 4 normal, I am new, decided after the last sale ended that it’s inevitable.

[tranquil sedge]

gotcha
do you know how much you want to spend?

(in $)

[gentle ice]

they should add a renting system instead 🤣 , you can rent the item for x days for a price after that it's back into the seller's merchant tab 🤣

[tranquil sedge]

nah keep that nonsense in the chinese client lmao

i think they already have something similar to that for loot pets there? or something similar to what u said, idrm exactly

[gentle ice]

yeah you have to pay for pet duration and the price is also super high iirc something like 40$ for a month or something like that

[dark mesa]

I was going for the 20$ for 200, get a merchants, a currency, and a few others if possible, why do ppl use premium tabs? I see them to just color and name normal tabs?

[tranquil sedge]

the main tabs recommended for a new player in terms of 'importance' are currency, fragment, map and one merchant tab (to list items for sale asynchronously) - this order can be moved up or down a little bit depending on personal taste, but those four to start

during a sale, that will cost u 275 points ($27.5 USD), so if you get a $30 supporter pack you'd have 35 points left over

after that it starts becoming a little more into the personal preference territory, but i would immediately get divination after that which costs 40 points, bringing total cost up to 315 points ($31.5)

[gentle ice]

premium are useless now since merchant tabs are superior 👀 , but yeah you can customize them

[tranquil sedge]

almost* entirely useless but yea being able to color and name is still nice, and it also lets u list items for mirror service if u dont wanna use forum posts

but ye normal stash tabs are 90% of that for cheaper

[split maple]

*currency, map, fragment

[tranquil sedge]

edited ty i mistyped earlier

[dark mesa]

Ah, atp just use the 15 to upgrade to premium

[tranquil sedge]

u dont need to upgrade any of ur tabs

[split maple]

premium isnt same as merchant

take care with that

[dark mesa]

Yeah I’m new so I really don’t know what to sell things at so having a listing to barter with ppl might help me out

[tranquil sedge]

premium tabs let you name them, color them and list items for player-to-player in-person trading

merchant tabs let you list items for asynchronous trading, but you can't use them for storage

[tranquil sedge]

it will not help you in that aspect

people will just not bother coming to buy them for the most part

[split maple]

my lil petpeeve with merchants is that you cannot use them in ssf if you like would want to start trade for few weeks then ssf late league

[tranquil sedge]

because then they have to whisper you, wait for your invite, wait for u to get the item, trade them, then say ty and leave

the only real difference in terms of usability is that premium tabs double as both shop and storage if you want them to

while merchant is basically just a shop tab, nobody is really using those for storage

but async trade is here for good

[tranquil sedge]

so ^ thats wat to buy in my opinion*

[dark mesa]

I don’t see the point in fragments tho

[tranquil sedge]

it holds a fuckton

[gentle ice]

fragments is definitely a must* have

[split maple]

it holds all of boss frags, betrayal stuff, scarbs

and like lategame you use a lot of scarbs

[brazen vector]

mainly for scarabs, yea

[split maple]

if you farming them you get more than inventory per map

[dark mesa]

If they combine into currency, you can get 2-3 currencies and have the fragments accumulate as they create orbs and such

[split maple]

its rly a must

[tranquil sedge]

scarabs are fragments
so are basically all the boss invitation fragments
and the breach, legion, betrayal, lab, etc. items

[steel light]

that's just wow and 24-72hrs auction without buyout

[undone gazelle]

for 20 you can get the first blood starter pack, but with 10 more you could get a poe 2 key + 300 points

[dark mesa]

Wait scarabs are fragment and not map?

[tranquil sedge]

currency is undisputably first priority
then fragment and map are a very close second and third interchangably
fourth is merchant if ur playing trade league

[tranquil sedge]

the only things that are maps

are maps

[brazen vector]

yep

[dark mesa]

That changes everything

[stoic horizon]

scarabs are scarabs

not even fragments

[tranquil sedge]

it doesn't make map tab suddenly useless btw

[gentle ice]

currency, fragment, maps, + merchant if you want to sell with the async trade
wait for a stash tab sale tho you'll save some $$

[split maple]

like thats what fragment stash tab looks like

its a lot of slots

[stoic horizon]

fragments implies they are a part of something

[frigid wedge]

they are

[brazen vector]

tssk, silly fella without breach scarabs /s

[tranquil sedge]

map tab still holds an obscene amount of maps, you can hold up to 72 of every map at every possible tier it can occur at, up to and including at t16

plus 72 of each t17 map, each of the 12 guardian/conqueror maps, valdo maps, and every unique map

[dark mesa]

Ik I’m using my kingsmarch maps as storage rn

[grizzled lily]

thats smart

[tranquil sedge]

it is, but it also means a lotta wasted time going back n forth

dont forget 20 maps in the map device storage bag too

[dark mesa]

The mappers look expensive but they are cheaper than you’d think

[undone gazelle]

is the bot tabs command updated to suggest merchant tabs?

[dark mesa]

5k/h on mapping with full slots is like 4h off timer Max

[tranquil sedge]

i think if you can buy a $30 supporter pack you should do that and do what i said already above

if you cannot then i think you should get currency + fragment + merchant = 60 + 55 + 30 = 145 points to start with

that leaves you with 55, which you may save until you can spend another $7.5 to get 75 points -> 55+75 = 120 = map tab

i think personally fragment is probably more important than map tab, even tho both are really important

because once u have currency and frag tabs at least you can start using one or two of ur base 4 tabs to hold extra maps temporarily

[dark mesa]

I was waiting for sale to see if I can get all of them

[tranquil sedge]

its not ideal, but it'll work for now.

[split maple]

map tab is kinda overrated after you complete atlas imo - it helps a lot first week or two of league

but latter its kinda janky since it has rly small amount of maps for same type of map

[brazen vector]

once you get to farming, I roll maps in a quad tab either way

[dark mesa]

Currency is like 45% of my stash

[brazen vector]

and t16.5 are seperated in a different tab too

[tranquil sedge]

idk just between a few favored t16s and the t17 + guardian + unique maps i already store a ton in map tab

i do start using quads for storage but thats mostly later when im buying maps in bulk or selling in bulk

like a quad tab costs 120 points for comparison during sale
and a set of 6 normal tabs goes for 110

i would 100% take map tab over either of those for 120 points

[split maple]

i feel like once you stop picking up random non-favored t16 map stash losses value, until then its giga good

[gentle ice]

with the async trade i just buy maps now and put them in map device stash personally until i run out 🤣 i don't use map tab that much anymore

[split maple]

so very cool for atlas prog

[crisp plinth]

I'd personally not play without one

Depends a lot on how you play and how intensive

[tranquil sedge]

sale starts tomorrow yh

also for $30 you can choose to buy poe2 early access instead of a poe1 supporter pack if you prefer.

you'll still get the same 300 points if you do

[split maple]

72 of each map is kinda a lot of maps in total, but kinda not a lot of map you want to run

tho it depends on playstyle for sure

[frigid wedge]

the fact we don't have quad merchant tabs still pisses me off

[tranquil sedge]

even disregarding favorite layouts, guardian and t17 and unique adds up

[grand stratus]

Yo guys, do you think it's worth it to buy a The Covenant random sockets and 6 link it?
Or maybe it's better to save and buy it already linked

[tranquil sedge]

whatever is cheaper overall

6 linking is 1500 fusings or 1 omen of connection, you can price check that

[split maple]

yea i like map tab, just i think frag and currency are way more universaly good than it

[tranquil sedge]

i agree too
currency > frag > map > merchant > divination

for newbies

total 315 points including divination, 275 without

[split maple]

i kinda hate tho how its impossible to find blighted and delied maps in it 😄

[tranquil sedge]

its a pain yea

[split maple]

tho having blight and deli stash tabs solves that issue, but these are basically useless

[tranquil sedge]

if i ctrl+click a map by accident into the map tab and its a deli or whatever

i just pretend i lost the map

cba load all the maps so the search works

[frigid wedge]

i have map, frag, delve and currency

[tranquil sedge]

😮
i thought you'd have most if not all tabs ngl lol

[gentle ice]

blight stash is great if you do lots of blights (for the oils)

[brazen vector]

I have all tabs

[split maple]

Only 242 premiums smh my head

[tranquil sedge]

essence is kinda mandatory if ur farming a lot of essence
delve is nice too imo coz both enough fossils and resonsators exist

but blight i can probably get by without if i needed to, just store those in my currency tab instead, you don't pick up every oil after all

[frigid wedge]

why would i specifically

[tranquil sedge]

dunno
long-time player

¯_(ツ)_/¯

endgame-reaching player

divination-card-looting player

[frigid wedge]

started in crucible

[gentle ice]

i'm missing flask, ultimatum, delve, delirium and i don't feel the need to buy any 🤣

[brazen vector]

missing a 0

[tranquil sedge]

yea but at least div tab sans ._.

is a lotta div cards out there

[normal hedge]

i got unique tab this league and i never really "used" it xdd

[split maple]

Ulti and deli are kinda Nice if you farming that content

[brazen vector]

uniq tab is cool for collectors purposes

[split maple]

You can take my uniq tab from my cold dead hands

Tho it has some quirks

[dark mesa]

Unique tab is tempting for me tbh

[split maple]

Like multiple slots for most uniques with variations but not for ralas -.-

[gentle ice]

i like the unique tab but for the price imo it's not worth it

[dark mesa]

99% of my gear in stash is unique

[split maple]

Trade you rly don't need it

[grizzled lily]

ewww someone here isnt taking their flasks from the grounddd

[dark mesa]

I am dusting as fast as I can

[split maple]

Don't dust low dust uniques

[dark mesa]

I still need the unique tab

[gentle ice]

🤣 i am actually with the async trade they're selling super fast so they go directly in a merchant tab

[tranquil sedge]

most uniques are not gonna be worth looting off the floor and the ones that are can be sold or bought rather easily in trade

unique tab is kinda low priority even tho its really fun to have yes and holds one of every unique yes

[dark mesa]

Low level sell high I know, I have a 250 es helm with 0 level requirements

[frigid wedge]

not a lot I pick up

[grizzled lily]

im taking every ilvl 83 flask

while mapping

[split maple]

tho i rly couldnt live without my unique tab

[grizzled lily]

u never know bro

[split maple]

but i will still insist for trade its uselessest tab

[tranquil sedge]

u know what i wish

[split maple]

if we forget flask one

[tranquil sedge]

i wish we had an option to buy more than 1 of a stash tab and 'merge' it with another one we already have

like let me buy a second currency tab and 'upgrade' my existing one to hold 10k of each item instead of 5k

and do it again for 15k

and so on

so i dont have to fuck with affinity on multiple tabs

[grizzled lily]

so you could fit all the divs youre getting huh?

[lilac parcel]

i want to search what i can craft on it but only level max permited by crafting table which is 64

how i do it ?

[grizzled lily]

wrong regex no?

[dark mesa]

Look up Poe regex, normal ppl don’t know what regex is

Otherwise google would be dangerous

[grand stratus]

That omen sells for 3 div, idk about those 1500 fusing. The already linked armor is for 5 div so maybe it's better to buy it?

[tranquil sedge]

cost of making ur own = buying armor + coloring the 6 sockets + linking them as 6link

(+ value of the time spent which won't be long, but just mentioning it)

[somber sundial]

If there was something that considered your mana to be unreserved, let’s say, would that be powerful? Like being able to reserve mana and still use archmage is the idea here

[tranquil sedge]

would that be powerful
yes.

[gentle ice]

i personally always buy my stuff already linked unless i have tons of fusings or if the price is very different like 3-4 div difference just for the links 😅

[tranquil sedge]

because the point of reserving mana is so that u can't double dip and use it for something else too xd

e.g. it would be like adding making all your current auras 'free' at the cost of w/e item u thought about

[split maple]

that sorta item would have to both occupy belt slot and have a nasty drawback

[formal lily]

When the next league drop

[normal hedge]

early march

[formal lily]

Ok ty

[somber sundial]

Woah

Jesus