1┃general

[frigid wedge]

i run 3 maps and he shows up again, offering me the same map i just got a boss for

giant white orb on minimap

[proud gorge]

you can also use the atlas to make it more likely to spawn one particular guardian map out of the three

[digital prawn]

oh yeah ive met him before

[proud gorge]

but it's still just an increased chance of X

[digital prawn]

guess i will just chaingun some maps

ty for help

literally first map

[normal hedge]

🔥

[frigid wedge]

holy frac

is the dot multi there minroll

[normal hedge]

no its 1 off

int is maxroll

[frigid wedge]

do u need both of them?

or is the int just to save u money if u miss

[normal hedge]

no, i want essence mod, str/int/chaosres/all res are the ones to make some money if i miss xdd

[frigid wedge]

ye ok

what u playing

[normal hedge]

jiquanis impending doom

[frigid wedge]

ok technically yay but also oof

on divine

[normal hedge]

its fine

i'll mist it in a few mins

[frigid wedge]

why dot multi

for jiquanis

[normal hedge]

because its ignite

[frigid wedge]

so its just id bc it can be, not bc is is actually relevant

?

[normal hedge]

what

not sure what u're trying to say

[frigid wedge]

i dont rlly see doom blast having the base dmg for big ignites

[normal hedge]

i have

30m uber dot

lol

[normal hedge]

thats why int stacker jiquanis

[frigid wedge]

yes but doom blast itself has very little benefit over another spell hit

oh it just has high effect of added

right

[normal hedge]

350%?

370%

[frigid wedge]

played poison id pf last league and it struggled for dot dps

[normal hedge]

dont poison also need high cast speed

[frigid wedge]

the build has an effective trigger rate of 10.1 or smth when configured right

for doom blast not vixens

it just had kinda low dmg per poison or smth

fully configured it was 11m dps

prob woulda had much higher but i never made 2x elevated boots

[normal hedge]

i'm sure you can have more dps but ignite sounds better at this point

[frigid wedge]

hm?

i imagine assassin with ff pair for sabo cdrr would be better poison jiquanis than ignite jiquanis elementalist

ignite with smth that generates sm hits without much cast speed feels wasteful

[pulsar dune]

DB did a poison assa jiquanis

[frigid wedge]

lwmme go look

only jiquanis i can find is ice spear

assass

oh u didnt say it was id

but ye I imagine poison on if us always gonna beat ignite on a level playing field

issue i had with my id build was that the suffixes were incredibly heavy tho

[pulsar dune]

Could you fix that with divine flesh font of thunder?

[frigid wedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/SansShoto_-1609/character/SansShotoMoonLord

what is there to fix

the only real way to potentially save a suffix or 2 was to get attributes in my 3 notable clusters and craft a second cogwork

kinda hit a wall where i wanted to either remake cogwork, boots or ammy and all of them were like 50 to 100d crafts in theory

so i didnt

[pulsar dune]

damn, heavy suffix presssure on 2 res sucks

[frigid wedge]

and now i have my 300d unfinished pbrand body this league ._.

[frigid wedge]

i had 180 overcapped lightning res but i was gonna drop the res if i recrafted boots

[brazen vector]

mist it

[pulsar dune]

makes sense

[frigid wedge]

my issue was i wanted to recraft 3 diff things to swap my setup to fire instead of light so i could get dawnbreaker over font

and it cost too much to want to

i could technically return to playing league and make them instead of throwing divs at this body armour

just to say i finished the build

[split maple]

messing with einhar create unique gloves to finish off t5 unique collection

and lel 2x t3 kaoms

[bold herald]

When is the next league starting? March?

[tranquil sedge]

end feb/early march is expected

no official dates yet

[serene harness]

delve 2.0 please

[warm aurora]

Yo I am new to the game can some1 tell me which weapon is better

[lean urchin]

the sword is slightly better

[warm aurora]

Ty

[stuck phoenix]

You mainly just care about the dps

You can basically kinda ignore the modifiers and just look at the stats at the top

At least early

[lean urchin]

BEWARE

some skills require certain types, like axes/maces only

[sleek barn]

i am now wary

[lean urchin]

more news at 11

[tawdry olive]

tfw try to use shield charge without a shield

just one of the few genius ideas coming from me

[lean urchin]

ive seen people asking about something similar, they just followed a guide, but used 2 wands instead of shield

[tawdry olive]

there's also the classic "wait why cant i use my skill now"

> has 4 unreserved mana

[lean urchin]

poe1 has information overload, you hover over a gem and see 90% of AI's training data

[signal hawk]

"why can't I use my skill now" when it's linked to cwdt

[tawdry olive]

"hmm... i cant seem to use frostblink..."
> socketed into svalinn

[stuck phoenix]

Or adding a support with a weapon requirement

What really annoys me though is when they say they didn't do anything but if you ask they did do something

Doesn't happen that often though

But also slightly annoying that people don't just, take a second look at what they just did that broke their build

[elfin shale]

So with Low Tolerance on non-Mamba, if you accidentally apply a second poison you basically deal no dps for like 2s right

[pulsar dune]

The first poison keeps its big damage

[elfin shale]

Yeah but once it runs out i cant apply another low tolerance

So i have to wait for the second poison to run out

[stuck phoenix]

You have to wait for all poisons to run out

But putting an arbitrary time frame on that is odd

Because they will run in parallel

So the time is the same as the difference from when you applied the first poison and when you applied the last poison

[shut lotus]

Sup guys, I thought about PoE after you guys told me about the "character reset every 4 months and you start again thing"

I was wondering, what if one just plays in the standard league instead? or like, you start in the temporary league and after 4 month you can move to the permanent with the same character?

[pulsar dune]

That is true, yeah

[elfin shale]

Is there any way to like cleanse poisons on an enemy

[lean urchin]

we dont want u to do that because the economony and less players there, like 90% less

[lean urchin]

some players do this however

[stuck phoenix]

If you don't play much, that's what you do yes

[stuck phoenix]

"we dont want" is an interesting point to make

[lean urchin]

no, let them experience leagues.

i demand it

[pulsar dune]

You can do this, but between patch notes potentially bricking your character, it being pretty feasible to get a character to a sufficiently powerful state in league, and the fact you get new features 4 months late to never, it can be a bit of a fraught experience

[elfin shale]

Do melee splash or additional strike targets hit worms

[pulsar dune]

Afaik yes to both

[shut lotus]

emh sorry what is economy and less player mean? like, what does it implies (?)

also, patch notes can brick my character? what does that means as well?

(sorry this is a new world for me lol )

[stuck phoenix]

Economy refers to player trading

Every new league comes with a major update which brings some balance changes

Brick = 🧱

[shut lotus]

it means things are cheaper in permanent?

[stuck phoenix]

Generally speaking most builds, even if hit by nerfs, will still function just fine next version too

[elfin shale]

Opposite

[stuck phoenix]

It means everyone in standard is rich so they won't move for low value trades, making items more expensive

[pulsar dune]

POE is designed around trading with other players. Trading with other players is a bit wonky on standard, and outside of really endgame items, probably less powerful than in league, since people usually don't list items in standard.

The game is also actively developed, so sometimes a build just becomes unplayable one patch to another.

[elfin shale]

I paid 40c for one of the worst gems in the game in Standard a while ago, lol

[pulsar dune]

Hexblast is a recent example

[elfin shale]

Which is 40x the price itd usually be in league

[shut lotus]

riiiiiight

and if I decide to start on temporary but then have a change of heart, can that character move to standard? or will it be deleted in any case at the league end?

[elfin shale]

Characters arent deleted

They move to standard

[pulsar dune]

Characters and stash moves to standard after the league ends

[elfin shale]

Thats why everything is so expensive, all of the accumulated wealth from yeara and years and years is in standard

[lean urchin]

and older version of items still exsising, so u can get scammed even

[shut lotus]

Alright I'm sold! Game is playable yes? like, nothing extremely broken like most EA on steam? I heard PoE2 has been out for a while (even tho I discovered it...yesterday)

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

[pulsar dune]

You're in the POE1 channel, but poe2 peeps also seem to be having fun

[elfin shale]

Frankly i dont think ive ever come across a glitch in this game

[shut lotus]

oh wrong channel... imma move sorry

[elfin shale]

And balance is pretty good for the most part

Lmfao no way

[livid halo]

Slayer or gladiator for flicker strike?

[pulsar dune]

Slayer

What's glad going to do?

The real answer is Jugg, but shh

[silent leaf]

TRAUMA SUPPORT POGGERS?

[eternal hill]

lvl 42 manafouge !!!

[pulsar dune]

Sorry, I am talking about inc/accu

[silent leaf]

Ew

[lean urchin]

ill stop here, looks neat

[silent leaf]

Thats

good CWS helm right

Using DD

[pulsar dune]

It is the strongest flicker build possible

[pulsar dune]

CWS scales chance with level and quality, so probably not really

[silent leaf]

DD transfig is glued to deadly ailments

Ah

[normal hedge]

cws 1/0 is only 50% chance

lol

[lean urchin]

ye thought i hit somthing big

[stuck phoenix]

50% less dps mmm

Yummy

Ok not quite

Since you only get 90% at 21/20

Or 92 at 20/23

But more than 40% less dps

[lean urchin]

trying to divine it more but faustus got it hostage

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

Btw yeah cws on shako is never actually good

It might have value on a flat support

But honestly

I think it'd be used as a 5l with mines or something instead

[silent leaf]

Y'all think CWS support gem will get drop disabled

Next league

[stuck phoenix]

No

[silent leaf]

On one hand it's the only 1/3 life builds that can actually be played

[normal hedge]

i dont think ggg cares about people multiboxing

[silent leaf]

On the other yea

Ultimatum farmers multiboxing

[normal hedge]

but i can see they nuking the ultimatum scarabs like they did to abyss

[lean urchin]

demand on catas were to high those "multiboxers" are slacking hard

[silent leaf]

They just spam w catalyzing and inscribed no?

Not so much farming catas

And those who do farm catas without the scarabs do it on scoured maps

So chances are they drop 3-4 per map

[normal hedge]

inscri, cata, 2x bribing

or no?

i dont remember 🤔

[silent leaf]

Yea

So catas are never ever droped

[split maple]

Bribing don't matter I think

Folks Just use it for exp or since they don't know better

[elfin shale]

Is there anything that gives a ton of ailment duration

[lean urchin]

shout out to the "kill monstesr" encounter in ultimatum, the mobs keeps moving away from me, even outside area

making RF a hell

[shrewd rock]

assassin

[elfin shale]

That is what im looking for but i dont think im gonna be doing 10 poisons in 4s with Low Tolerance

[sleek barn]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Leper's_Alms

for low budget

[elfin shale]

Yooo AND shitty ailment immunity

We are so back

Is it worth scaling quality on Pestilent Strike

Probably not right

[sleek barn]

i mean where would you get the qual from

depends what you're sacrificing

[elfin shale]

Fair

[sleek barn]

holy login crest of desire pestilent strike

[elfin shale]

HUUUUUGE

If double damage actually worked on anything it does maybe lol

[sleek barn]

true

ig ashes only

[elfin shale]

Does the poison tincture have duration in it

[sleek barn]

you're not gonna use a diallas

uhhh

idk i don't use tinctures

[elfin shale]

And Enhance and quality from veiled weapon mod

Though idk if either of those are worth

[sleek barn]

enhance probably not

why you need duration

ig big poison for low tolerance

[elfin shale]

Oh wait cluster jewels my goat

[sleek barn]

3x 1p voices surely

[elfin shale]

Dang theres an increased duration of elemental ailments mod on tinctures

[formal ice]

can you play SSFHC with friends?

[elfin shale]

Solo-SFHC

[formal ice]

ok so no 😄

[elfin shale]

You could make a hardcore private league

But that costs irl money

I think its like 5$ a month but still

[wary hemlock]

Hey guys, I just hit 80 , upgraded my gears, changed talents tree (checked nothing i took off gave me more Survivability) , but somehow I feel like im taking much more damage than before hitting 80, is that normal (the maps i did were not that crazy either compared to what ive done before too) walking calamity maxroll build

[grim pivot]

GSF exists

[elfin shale]

Imagine you inflict a 10s low tolerance poison. Betrayal's Sting inflicts a second. You kill a worm. Betrayal's Sting procs on it. Poison proliferates. Pestilent Strike debuff proliferates

4 Low Tolerance Poisons

[vital lily]

i wanna ask something so i went in poe world chat number 1 - the one in game i never was in #1 world before this is first thing i saw

[sleek barn]

seems about right

[elfin shale]

Global 1 is tame today i see

[sleek barn]

[normal hedge]

i see thanks

[sleek barn]

i honestly have no idea how low tolerance prolif works

so i'd have to trust you on this one

[elfin shale]

Poison prolif has weird mechanics but it will spread multiple Low Tols around

[sleek barn]

where worm come from

flask or ring

[elfin shale]

Ring

[sleek barn]

or

[warm aurora]

Is my skill tree alr?

[elfin shale]

I dont wanna deal with flask

[sleek barn]

foulborn nulls inclination???

[elfin shale]

LOGIN (doeant work with PS)

[sleek barn]

just strike with your bow

[elfin shale]

Why do you have singular small nodes coming off in random spots

[warm aurora]

Wdym

[eternal hill]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[elfin shale]

You have 1 strengrh node and 1 armour+evasion node that dont go anywhere

Unless you intend to connect the str and refund the physical damage nodes

[pulsar dune]

Why are you pathing across mana?

[elfin shale]

That too, you should path across the Life there

[warm aurora]

Ty

[elfin shale]

UNLESS we get rid of utility flasks, run worms, and wear 3 rings

[sleek barn]

THREE squirming terrors

[lean urchin]

is it possible to keep the car away from snow without a garage? like a tent or something

[sleek barn]

yeah you get a car drape

[elfin shale]

Good ol blue tarp

[sleek barn]

whatever its called

car cover

pog FREE BAG

[elfin shale]

Unless youre expecting like 10cm of snow you can prolly get away with just lifting your wipers

[elfin shale]

Who vacuum sealed my fucking car

[sleek barn]

it preserves the car for longer

[polar jacinth]

Keeps the good car smell locked in

[crisp plinth]

car so ugly you get a free bag to spare the public

[polar jacinth]

Is poe2 good !?

[elfin shale]

MA they sous vided my car

[sleek barn]

every once in a while

[sage falcon]

haha sometimes

[polar jacinth]

Taking to long for new poe1 league

[lean urchin]

i coudlve vibed coded poe 3 by now

[elfin shale]

Two Betrayal's Stings and a Squirming Terror, stonks

[finite quail]

what is your question

[bronze falcon]

Pretty sure they're vibe coding poe2. 19 hotfixes, so far!

[finite quail]

its in late february

[vital lily]

this is the question is that normal 🙂

[finite quail]

bro ur like under level 20

dont worry about your skill tree

[finite quail]

thats actually quite mild for general 1

[ebon tendon]

i think he can oneshot maven with that tree

wym

[finite quail]

I usually send much weirder messages from time to time

[last hawk]

League starting fresh, anyone wanna join ?

[hybrid harness]

wait til friday ngl

[whole bluff]

We should vibe code a new Linux

And name it Cogvinch

Or just Cogvin

[scenic yoke]

hi what doing corrupt to my item? may i use it ? first time , act 2

[blissful zodiac]

without poe 2

[finite quail]

it alters your item unpredictably

[blissful zodiac]

we wouldve never gotten phercia league

pherica was best league of 2025

[finite quail]

it can reroll your item, it can add an implicit modifier to it, it can give it white sockets, or it can do nothing

a corrupted item cant be modified by normal means

its not worth it to do it in early acts generally

[golden moat]

holy, what a legendary youtube homepage pull

[scenic yoke]

and its good? or i can lost good item if i use it ? 😄

[blissful zodiac]

HOLY SHIT thats old a fuck

why that look like a d2 mod tho

[hard cliff]

post the actual video brother

[golden moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBmzi9zuqU bro listen to the intro, it rly used to sound like that?

[bronze falcon]

The deep lore

[hard cliff]

cause that's what poe was lol

Diablo 3 sucked so hard they made their own spiritual sequel

that's my understanding at least

[blissful zodiac]

short and simple

[scenic yoke]

this, corruption altar is somethig special? or i can find it more times?

[finite quail]

read what I said after

[quartz sinew]

hey chat

one question

[finite quail]

the one found in act 1 is single use

afterwards you can only use vaal orbs

[quartz sinew]

anyone can tell me for what this atlas skill tree its usefull? https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAYAABuAIfUUIaU7gTzSzIASLL61EnvuqnvSLeGtLGfLJJ5AMHubYgtD-p4PFkhYJSDKm6M5LVmzgBenc5aQ3V8q8n9TLqN6msxcfWT8n7IqLwqu8y3hqG92uT3HwDNNSd13v7XKx2PZ2B7YCfJu9uHndDG4Qe12IKnjjlw456rdNKCUWays8fnrvXeUYIZCn21-7GtlaVz6-HiDqLQBPzLF8UhGizHXRdQNqRUh7BIDvkOMCxIGIuO2MGv5ewLcWtlKraP5QMwiAczxl7TtdPCdtlcqUO1Y8QYXKXpZ7nU0CgUAB-LCAAAAAAAAAMDAAAAAAAAAAAA

[scenic yoke]

can i skip it and come back later?

[finite quail]

betrayal

[quartz sinew]

i want one atlas skill tree to farm divs and essences

[finite quail]

Yes you can, but its not very worth it since vaal orbs are relatively common

[hard cliff]

it's not that important just showing you how corruption works

[finite quail]

there is no difference between the altar and vaal orbs

[scenic yoke]

thanks 😘

[quartz sinew]

can i get more usefull staff with this one? its only worth for syndicate thing?

[finite quail]

useful staff?

what?

[golden moat]

best atlas is very subjective and the one u linked for mainly for destructive play maven farming. you can swap betrayal for whatever ud want

[finite quail]

i mean you're only doing betrayal and boss rushing with that

so you only really get betrayal and boss rush stuff

thats basically it

you get invitations, synth and conq maps, betrayal medallions, allflames from safehouses n such

[split maple]

Ig cane of kulemak can be considered useful staff

[dry tree]

I swear kulemak exists as like chaos dot item (bad) and then a shitty phys staff until you can afford to craft a real one

[eternal hill]

there is the fabled spell dmg, cast speed, support gem variant

which has its oddball uses

[dry tree]

I kinda wish there were more niche stats on it with really high values

Could be interesting

Throw a +1 totem on there that rolls up to +2 or something to compete with shaper shield

Do something weird like golem CDR

[vital lily]

there is 1 thing you can use

it is weird but good

Minion damage and the claw weapon

[quartz sinew]

how it looks? any thing more to add?

[vital lily]

800% minion damage at 150% convert with claw is 1200% inc all damage

all dmg works on all melee range spells

[elfin cedar]

I think youtube is pushing these old PoE videos again for some reason, ive been getting them on my feed as well. Makes me wish I was playing PoE back then

[pulsar dune]

It's pretty good for FBoK

[subtle forge]

Alva continues to deliver 😎

[short prairie]

FBoK only works with dot now

[hard cliff]

grats

[subtle forge]

not quite as good as when this happened though lol

[pulsar dune]

yea, and cane has big dot multi and big cold damage for the new aura ring

[ancient sorrel]

Why is cold dot excluded from the crit strike affliction philosophy?

[spice pecan]

cold dots don't come from hits as far as i'm aware?

[ancient sorrel]

Cold dot is so lacking tools next to poison / ignite

[spice pecan]

like the dot component of cold dot skills is usually not based on the hit but rather a secondary effect

[ancient sorrel]

Creeping frost is

[sour karma]

chilled/freeze deals no damage

[spice pecan]

the chilled ground that the hit creates is what deals the damage but yeah

[ancient sorrel]

Vortex hits too, i forgot

[spice pecan]

it does yeah, that's what i was mostly thinking of

frostblades of katabasis does too

but i feel like ground type effects are a bit different

it would be cool if alchemist's mark worked with chilled ground dot, but that wouldn't help vortex

[scenic yoke]

affects phisical dmg on weapon dmg of rage psirits?

[spice pecan]

if your weapon says "adds x damage", it only affects attacks with that weapon

"adds x damage to spells" affects spells you cast, which also i don't think affects srs

[scenic yoke]

i cant find nothink useful where srs take base dmg

the hint only say Summons a short-lived flaming skull that rushes at nearby enemies and attacks them rapidly, converting all its physical damage to fire.

[pulsar dune]

Cold dot isn't an ailment, same reason scorching ray or blight don't benefit from crit strike affliction. But yes, non-ailment dot is pretty undersupported

[spice pecan]

that's also a good point that i missed because i just woke up lmao

is cold dot multi even an affix on gear

[pulsar dune]

It's in places

I think caster weapons, and influenced amulet

Probably more

Jewels ofc

[spice pecan]

oh it is, i just tried googling it with poedb rather than searching tradesite xd

[ancient sorrel]

I tried to find a use for foulborn wand giving dot multi per pc.
W/o this gem no point to try anything

100% crit pointless if u cant benefit from it

[spice pecan]

take inner conviction for 3% more spell damage per pc maybe then

but yes generally pc stacking on builds that don't benefit from crit is not very good

[pulsar dune]

Dot multi per PC is an odd one, yeah. Usually you do want to go crit with power charges.

[ancient sorrel]

IC + forbidden power is okish, but not build making

[pulsar dune]

And can't really coc cold dot for obvious reasons

[stuck phoenix]

Even if you could it wouldn't be good

Well, maybe that's what you meant

[pulsar dune]

Yea, that's what I meant

[stuck phoenix]

DoT multi per pc is probably for PA

[ancient sorrel]

I liked the idea but unless hidden tech this wand was DoA

[spice pecan]

which wand

foulborn tulborn?

[ancient sorrel]

Yeah

[stuck phoenix]

Wait no, not PA

[ancient sorrel]

20 multi per pc

[spice pecan]

lance did perma vaal cold snap with that lol

[stuck phoenix]

Crit Ailment without PA

[spice pecan]

using it for effectively cold RF

[stuck phoenix]

But you can also just go for the keystone as was said

Spell damage from PC instead

[strong totem]

Righteous cold

[spice pecan]

yeah, tho i don't think inner conviction is even worth pc stacking

going out of your way for 10 pcs for 30% more seems bad

maybe i'm wrong

[pulsar dune]

There are a couple more PC stack payoffs you can get, but too many are crit related for this to really work well I'd expect

[ancient sorrel]

10 pc is 200 dot multi.
Pretty certain than +4 tulfall provides as much dmg

Paying the price of stacking 10pc just for the multi seems giga trap

Affliction gem would have made it ok

[steel light]

holy shit this is standard right now, with 1d = 400c

[spice pecan]

yeah, pretty average for standard

[normal hedge]

i mean

people have 500 mirrors they just login to gamba more

makes sense

[steel light]

i think by the time i started league 2 weeks in, it was 1d = 3k yellows

oh, i forgot about this 🤣

[spice pecan]

well yeah, on leaguestart all juices are relatively even

yellow only surpasses as the league gets older and older because of gamba

[normal hedge]

yeah thats when you cornucopia

but harvest is kinda poopoo early on anyways

[steel light]

corn is 1.25 = 1d

[spice pecan]

i like early harvest in ssf, but yeah not in trade

[normal hedge]

early harvest in ssf is really strong

i love reforge chaos amethyst rings

[ebon tendon]

Jeez this is like

The same as standard

Dont remeber if its worse actually

Oh

Ha.ha.ha.ha.

[steel light]

i recall it was 4d for awakened in standard on 2nd week of league

[tidal estuary]

how are the t1 searing/eater tiers called?

[dark sigil]

Yee awakened orb was expensive as hecc

[tidal estuary]

i used 4 conflicts and it upgraded 4 times in a row the modifier which i didnt want ot increase...

from whooping 4% action speed to whooping 6% action speed

[steel light]

exceptional

[pulsar dune]

The highest tier is perfect, but currency goes up to exceptional

[tidal estuary]

nope, "perfect" turns out

[stuck phoenix]

Well, if you ask the trade site, it's Lesser

[near void]

HUGE

[tidal estuary]

uuuh

how does this work?

[elfin shale]

What part

Oh the elusive effecr

Effect is 219%, uptime means you're on average at 110% i think?

[tidal estuary]

ah so it takes the average value

[elfin shale]

You can set it to use Max in config

I might be wrong and its just being weird though

[tidal estuary]

i was wondering how it pulls those 110%

since i thought it should be additively calculated

and the base was supposed to be 100% already

there seems to be something wrong with the rounding

[elfin shale]

110% would mean it rounds up yeah

[tidal estuary]

PoB shows same effect for 110, 111, 112 AND 113

it rounds up only on 114

[elfin shale]

Though i think that may technically be correct, as its 1 - X not 0 - X

Oh huh

[tidal estuary]

but im not sure how it is supposed to work

since Elusive degrades in 5% steps every 0.25s

[elfin shale]

Shrug

[spice pecan]

are you allergic to numeric separators

[proud gorge]

wait a minute, why did I spend 1 div on this Timeless Jewel with "Gain 1 Endurance Charge every second if you've been Hit Recently" when the Inexorable node is right there

25% chance to gain an endurance charge on getting hit, on a CWS build, is functionally just the same thing

well, good thing I didn't spend more than a div I guess

[tepid dagger]

Thats a good jewel

[proud gorge]

this initial PoB I grabbed for this build kind of sucks ass

[proud gorge]

it's good yeah, and I'll probably actually end up reselling it for more like 20-25 div

because turns out this build doesn't actually need that smh

[tepid dagger]

Damn

[proud gorge]

I got baited by a youtuber making a video guide who seemed like he knew what he was talking about

[tepid dagger]

Lmao

[proud gorge]

but then after further looking into things for like 10 minutes I realized his build sucks

[tepid dagger]

Comments tell you later

[proud gorge]

nah the comments are all "wow this build is so cool" because it does the one thing it's designed to do

have 99% block chance

but after actually going into poe.ninja and looking at what other people optimizing this build are doing, turns out a lot of the details are different

[hybrid harness]

very mid, don't buy

[proud gorge]

I mean, it's pringles, it was always going to be a light dusting of cheese powder and some sort of green powder

[tepid dagger]

Bro that flavor is fire

[hybrid harness]

maybe I got a bad one but it's tasteless

[proud gorge]

if there's one thing about pringles, it's that they go soft on their flavoring powders

but then again it's a pretty mild flavour

just get Sour Cream and Onion, there's a reason it's everyone's favorite flavor

though I do also enjoy a good dill pickle chip

[hybrid harness]

yea onion is the goat. this what I get for trying new stuff

[tidal estuary]

No, why?

[stuck phoenix]

because your screenshot is lacking them

[tidal estuary]

By numeric separators you mean decimal point?

[elder dagger]

this shit is bussin bussin

[stuck phoenix]

no

123 456.789 for example

as opposed to 123456.789

space is the only good separator

[lean urchin]

10,000,000.00 dollars

[stuck phoenix]

comma is cursed

because it becomes extremely ambiguous when there's no decimal point

[tidal estuary]

Weird, i think i supposed to have them

Spaces i mean

[stuck phoenix]

because comma is a valid decimal separator in a big portion of the world

[tidal estuary]

Thats cursed

[stuck phoenix]

no u

[elfin shale]

Effects expire X% slower is effectively just X% more duration right

[stuck phoenix]

sure

but it stacks addively with other sources of it

[elfin shale]

ye

[high path]

This is probably a dumb question, but I've played a bit of PoE2 and loved it when it came out, but want to leave that one on the back burner til it actually comes out fully. Wanna try out PoE1 but I hear it's kinda in the middle/late end of a league rn. Does that make it a bad time to get into it, or is there plenty of time til the next one still?

[elfin shale]

But multiplicative with % inc duration

[elfin shale]

The DoT multiplier of duration effects

[stuck phoenix]

I'd say it's still fine timewise

[lean urchin]

plenty of time until next league in poe1

[tidal estuary]

no idea why POB does not respect it

[elfin shale]

League still isnt real dead

[stuck phoenix]

2025-10-31 7:00:00 PM expect it to end around four months after this

so end of feb, or early the month after probably

[high path]

Im not too worried about player numbers, was more worried about time itself. I know if you want to do the next league you gotta make a new character, so I just wanted to make sure I wasnt trying to beat a tight clock here haha

But glad to hear theres plenty of time still

[stuck phoenix]

you have at least 1.5 months

[proud gorge]

yeah the league isn't ending for another, like, two months, and imo later in a league is the best time to get into PoE because it gives you plenty of time to learn things and make mistakes

[stuck phoenix]

probably about 2 months

[proud gorge]

and then next league you can come in on a fresh start, with the knowledge now under your belt

[high path]

This will probably be a throwaway league for me for sure. I can make a shit character and not really worry about building properly til next league I guess haha

[proud gorge]

it's also a very good league to start in because stuff like good starter gear is really easily accessible via the Genesis Tree

and as a result stuff like decent 6-link rares are ridiculously cheap

[elfin shale]

What happens if you reapply a curse while wearing Fated End?

[high path]

Glad to hear

[stuck phoenix]

I don't see why it'd be different

Curse is overwritten

Curses are the one thing that has a limit

[elfin shale]

Do weaker curses normally overwrite a stronger version of the same curse?

[stuck phoenix]

Yes, I'm very sure

[elfin shale]

Annoying

[proud gorge]

curses overwrite any other version of the same curse

[elfin shale]

And Fated End doesnt prevent curses from expiring due to duration right?

[proud gorge]

no

it just adds a second expire condition

[stuck phoenix]

It doesn't do what it doesn't say

lol

[earnest raven]

Oops

You know I have double tap emotes on

[stuck phoenix]

I did not

I turned it off the same day

It's an insane feature

[proud gorge]

you can clearly see curses overwriting themselves if you have a curse-on-hit ring and hit an enemy a ton of times per second

like Despair on Hit ring with FRoSS

you just get a cloud of Despair particles above their head

[stuck phoenix]

yeah but maybe he was hoping it'd be different specifically for stronger curses

ring is really just, manual cast curse

recast when it runs out

don't need to think

if it's temp chains you do need a little inc effect/inc dura tho

well, assuming you have a perfect roll ring

actually

you don't really

[proud gorge]

I assume the main use case of Fated End is stacking up a ton of Curse Effect so that your curses end instantly

[stuck phoenix]

well, you'd get a fraction of a second more time at max effect

[stuck phoenix]

that sounds crazy impractical

[elfin shale]

People used it for that with impending doom iirc

[proud gorge]

you only need like 180% increased curse effect for it to end instantly, that's probably doable

[stuck phoenix]

80%

but you don't benefit from it

[elfin shale]

It kinda gimps your build to do it iirc

[stuck phoenix]

unless you also run blasphemy

[proud gorge]

oh good point yeah, that's 180% of base effect, not 180% increased effect

I just figured that, given that the main benefit of the ring seems to be letting you end your curses super early, it'd probably work well with anything that triggers off a curse ending

but yeah, probably a bit of a weird build

[stuck phoenix]

oh wait i'm silly, you don't need anything for temp chains either

they all just end after 6 seconds basically

unless you have less/reduced effect

[proud gorge]

wait, lmao, I just realized, this variation of the 99% block gladiator build isn't running Petrified Blood

[spice pecan]

why run pet blood, just block everything 4Head

[proud gorge]

I suppose I can see it, this build isn't actually a Low Life build, so it doesn't particularly benefit from reserving half of their life and using petrified blood

so it leaves like 80% of their life unreserved

[spice pecan]

pet blood is only really good on like, LL casters and pathfinders i think

[proud gorge]

though a quick check in PoB does show that equipping Petrified Blood would actually seem to improve the max hit

40% of life loss prevented below half life, at half life, means you take 60% of damage on 50% of your health pool, thus acting effectively like 83.3% of max life

so if your unreserved life without Petrified Blood is below 83.3% of max life, Petrified Blood improves your max hit

I guess they just don't consider Petrified Blood to be worth the gem socket?

hmm, yeah this build seem to get immediately better by just equipping Petrified Blood

and also cheaper, since I can ditch a level 4 Enlighten

to make room for the Petrified Blood gem

[spice pecan]

i think bleed bow glad is a bit too overwhelming for leaguestarting the PL on friday

spectre on a non-minion build, day 1 ryslatha, having to care about weapon dps etc

i am now in Panic Mode (tm)

[tepid dagger]

Whats light radius

[spice pecan]

the radius at which you can see in dark areas or when you're low life

[tepid dagger]

Light radius is shit

[spice pecan]

yes

except for the light radius stacking levelling build

but even then its still shit lol

you only take the ES mastery for light radius if you're playing ivory tower

since without it you literally cannot see shit

[tepid dagger]

Might only be good for delving if it works

[spice pecan]

it doesn't work in delve

[tepid dagger]

Boom

Ass

[spice pecan]

darkness is darkness, separate thing

[proud gorge]

Light Radius is one of those funny stats that they put in really early on and then never took out, so it remains on items as a sort of funny "bad" mod except when using specifically the light radius uniques

[tepid dagger]

Oof

[opaque sphinx]

nerds

[proud gorge]

but yeah, it varying with health pool fullness is kind of terrible

[opaque sphinx]

we back to sirus prison

[tepid dagger]

I hope youre joking

[opaque sphinx]

no ur a big nerd

[tepid dagger]

Get a job

[opaque sphinx]

the biggest even

i just got back from work smh

[tepid dagger]

Nerd

[proud gorge]

because it means that any build that's super low on life all the time (eg: Rathpith) just has no light radius and can't see anything

[opaque sphinx]

hater

[proud gorge]

Blood Sacrament doesn't even have the ability to take the ES mastery because they also have no ES

so they just suffer on indoor maps

[opaque sphinx]

[tepid dagger]

Price?

[spice pecan]

we don't price check in here, but also, we dont know anyways because console economy is different

[stuck phoenix]

Ngl looks meh

Supported by mods tend to not really make sense below a 7l

And as a weapon this has bad dps

[tepid dagger]

3 exalts i bought for 25c each to craft hits cant be evaded

[stuck phoenix]

Inc phys but no flat

No inc as

[tepid dagger]

Whats the difference between league and standard besides tree

[spice pecan]

standard still has old breach

old atlas too probably idk i dont play standard

[opaque sphinx]

nerds

[spice pecan]

oh so standard can't even juice the old breach that exists there lol

[opaque sphinx]

why cant i hire mappers to fight uber sirus

[livid halo]

Which one for flicker strike? Too lazy to open pob

[stuck phoenix]

Rakiata's isn't really something you slap on

And if it is, rakiata's wins basically always

[spice pecan]

rakiata's with purity of elements and runegraft of treachery probably goes pretty hard

if you can fit in the runegraft and the aura

[normal hedge]

Rakiata + Runegraft of Treachery + triple purity

[spice pecan]

or that if you really want to go all in yeah

[livid halo]

Damn those runegrafts are 1d each on console

Rakiata itself is 4d

Rare sword is just 1d

[elfin shale]

4d Rakiata's is a pretty good deal isnt it

[opaque sphinx]

no

t0s are 3d

i mean i guess rakiata has some use

but like

just recombo a banishing blade

[elfin shale]

I thought it usually sat closer to 10d

[opaque sphinx]

dunno been 3-4 alll league for most part

at least since i been checking

whats this? a real challenge? you've finally caught my attention

[hard cliff]

@elfin shale

what you playing brother ?

[spice pecan]

man, fuck, i don't want to insta delete this gladiator but bleed builds are just so awkward

[hard cliff]

Why did you do it

[spice pecan]

this is a tall order but is there any half-decent bleed glad build that isn't eviscerate or bleed slayer slams

[hard cliff]

Hey @spice pecan

I was gonna league start this

let me find it

[spice pecan]

because I want to leaguestart an explody character on friday

for pohx PL

[hard cliff]

Ohhh their is a pohxpl ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LS198tPXc0

[spice pecan]

don't want to play RF

[hard cliff]

This looked cool

[spice pecan]

yes, i've been following that

and it's extremely awkward

[hard cliff]

uh oh

Why ?

[spice pecan]

volatility + ryslathas = you're fishing for good bleeds for fucking ever

playing a spectre on a non minion build is cringe

[hard cliff]

So true

Didn't see it had spectre

ooof

I'

am out lol

[spice pecan]

and then finding a good phys bow and quiver is like pulling teeth

[spice pecan]

yeah that's the entire reason he swapped back to glad from slayer this league, cuz of farrul bloodline

i'm only in act 6 with the build but i can sort of see where the problems start to arise

[hard cliff]

I just used it on my Eblade for the fast kitties

Zero maintence for that

I really like it as a last ascendascy point already

I think it'll be at least midly popular next league if it gets no changes

it's literally just "crit for free attack or cast speed"

"Each Spectral Tiger grants 25% increased Global Critical Strike Chance, 7% increased Attack Speed, and 7% increased Cast Speed to the owner, for up to 125% increased global crit chance and 35% increased attack and cast speed."

[spice pecan]

i will say that the build is kind of nice in the campaign so far

you can literally start it right out the gate and once you get bleed pops it gets quite satisfying

[hard cliff]

What the hell are you taking on farruls

[spice pecan]

farrul's presence will, the bottom one

[hard cliff]

Farruls' Wild Presence is an Aura which grants 20% increased Attack, Cast and Movement Speed and prevents Action Speed from being lowered below the Base Value.

ohhh the other one

that's not bad

little bit of regen and a ton of damage plus stun immunity

aight

[spice pecan]

i mean it's probably not ass to run a spectre but the build is kinda socket starved

[hard cliff]

that let's you take precise technique I assume

[spice pecan]

well you take RT

[hard cliff]

???????????????????????????

Why

[elfin shale]

Still on Stormbind

[spice pecan]

so you don't need to click accuracy, idk

[elfin shale]

If you mean next league im thinking Pestilent Strike

[hard cliff]

Does attack damage affect the bleed

[elfin shale]

It dont

[hard cliff]

Ahhh ok then

nevermind

Raised Beast Spectres have 3 additional modifiers randomly chosen in each Area

Spooky headhunter

[elfin shale]

@lean urchin the liarrrr

[hard cliff]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lean urchin]

but bleeds are based of a hit

so it does help

[hard cliff]

You should make a youtube video or two demonstrating that if you haven't aleady

[spice pecan]

"Potential damage from one bleed application is based on the base physical damage of attack that caused it: 70% per second if the target is standing still (reduced to 10% if an enemy monster applied it). If the target is moving or are affected by Aggravated Bleeding, bleeding deals additional damage equal to twice the base, for a total of 3 times the base damage (210% per second)"

[hard cliff]

I feel like maybe you did

[elfin shale]

I havent

I did give my PoB to someone on reddit so i have a disciple

[hard cliff]

You should

[spice pecan]

which is why ryslatha's + volatility is so wildly inconsistent

i feel like if you had a source of lucky damage on the build it would maybe feel better

[hard cliff]

I have very good news for you Mythik

you can get lucky on a build for 1 chaos

[elfin shale]

Do delve rings roll with temporal chains on hit

Or am i gonna need corrupted gloves

[spice pecan]

pretty sure you can get any curse

or wait

maybe from chaos nodes if those exist, idk

[spice pecan]

enlighten me

[elfin shale]

Thatd be Despair tho

and they do exist i have one on my thing i havent done

[stuck phoenix]

Damaging Ailments aren't based on damage taken

[spice pecan]

they're based on the damage that the hit rolled before defense calculations?

[stuck phoenix]

Also no

[spice pecan]

god i hate this fucking game

[lean urchin]

what

[stuck phoenix]

They're based on the damage before multipliers apply

Ie, inc phys doesn't get to apply twice

Inc attack doesn't apply

[lean urchin]

[hard cliff]

the lucky ground aoe from the lightning graft

you gotta click a button though

[elfin shale]

kinda fucked up this cluster is almost bow agnostic lol

[stuck phoenix]

Double or triple damage don't get to apply, crit multi doesn't apply, enemy armour doesn't apply either

[lean urchin]

so bleed facebreak is trash

i guess "what is base damage"

[stuck phoenix]

Correct

It even says so on its wiki page

[stuck phoenix]

Just flat, but after conversion

[lean urchin]

u should get helper role or something

[stuck phoenix]

I don't have permission to add it to me

No manage roles perm

Xddd

[spice pecan]

so does a crit inflicting a bleed actually increase the damage the bleed does, then? even if crit multi only scales the hit damage

[stuck phoenix]

Did you read this

That said

[spice pecan]

right, i guess i was asking a question that i can't put into words

[stuck phoenix]

Critical strikes have +50% dot multi by default

[lean urchin]

"Damaging ailments (bleeding, poison, and ignite) from critical strikes do not scale with crit multi by default, but inherently have +50% to Damage over Time Multiplier, additive with other sources of Damage over Time Multiplier stats."

[stuck phoenix]

Ur slow

[lean urchin]

im delving

[stuck phoenix]

Imagine needing to quote the wiki

I'm just on phone

[proud gorge]

I gotta say, I do find it funny that, despite being theoretically an ES item, Valyrium is used almost exclusively on CWS builds with almost no or no ES

[spice pecan]

so crit is effectively useless therefore clicking RT is always the right play

and fuck accuracy

[stuck phoenix]

Also, there's a reason Perfect Agony exists lol

[spice pecan]

it exists as bait

[stuck phoenix]

Its sole purpose is making crit multi apply to dot multi

[spice pecan]

and bricking like four notables

[stuck phoenix]

If crit multi already applied to dot it wouldn't be good ever

[stuck phoenix]

Yes

[fickle glen]

This is the only game I ever failed in making a strong build

[proud gorge]

Valyrium theoretically has a place on ES builds, making them not get stunned on every attack, but like, not only does ES inherently have a 50% chance to avoid stuns, Brine King pantheon exists, and that's enough "stun immunity" for most builds

[stuck phoenix]

Welcome to poe

[spice pecan]

i mean there's a mastery for that

[stuck phoenix]

Not really

[proud gorge]

and plus any ES build that really needs stun immunity can probably get it cheaper than a ring slot

[fickle glen]

So many secrets to this game

[stuck phoenix]

Es mastery is why it isn't used

Pure es is misery with only brine king

You get stunned by basically every hit always, sure you get a 2s cooldown

But imagine being stunned every 2s

[proud gorge]

oh wait yeah, I forgot that mastery still sort of exists, it's just not good for CWS anymore

[fickle glen]

What does stun look like in this game?

[stuck phoenix]

Your character does an oof animation

[fickle glen]

Like a budge?

[stuck phoenix]

There's no other visual indication

[proud gorge]

when you get hit for damage over a certain percentage of your life (the "stun threshhold"), you do a little stun animation, which knocks you out of any other active animations and stops you from inputting actions for a second

well, not for a second

for a very small amount of time

[fickle glen]

Oh so like stagger

[stuck phoenix]

Sure

[lean urchin]

omgomgomgmog

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[lean urchin]

do i have to type it

[stuck phoenix]

No

[spice pecan]

N

[stuck phoenix]

Xddd

I'm just slow on phone

[hard cliff]

@spice pecan

did you get it?

[spice pecan]

get what

[stuck phoenix]

And also because I'm not used to this

[spice pecan]

the graft tech? meh

[proud gorge]

the thing is, while the stagger from stun is pretty short, in the later parts of the game you get hit a lot, very very quickly, so if your stun threshhold is low and your're getting stunned on most attacks, you can end up getting stunlocked

[stuck phoenix]

You can get stun locked pretty early too lol

[proud gorge]

yeah, when your max life is low

[fickle glen]

That does happen a lot to me

[stuck phoenix]

Rhoa gang is a classic

[proud gorge]

new Act 1 enemies are no joke

[stuck phoenix]

Relative to the hits you take

Aka, life + mitigation

[stuck phoenix]

Show your build if you want feedback on it

[fickle glen]

I see why stun immunity is so useful

[proud gorge]

but yeah, this is why most builds try to find some way to deal with Stun, though the most common and easiest method is just to equip Brine King pantheon, which makes it so that if you get stunned, you're stun immune for 4 seconds

[stuck phoenix]

You often don't need total immunity

[proud gorge]

so you can only get stunned at most once every 4 seconds

[stuck phoenix]

But you do need to keep stun in mind

[stuck phoenix]

If you don't get stunned you don't get stunned

It's still 2s

[proud gorge]

I thought it was "recently"?

[stuck phoenix]

No

It's 2s

[proud gorge]

ah, I don't have it in front of me, but yeah makes sense

[stuck phoenix]

Thought you were confused with the es stun avoid lel

[stuck phoenix]

Imagine not knowing brine king by heart

I use it almost every league

[proud gorge]

I don't tend to play Brine King builds smh

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

[proud gorge]

smbk

[spice pecan]

so you play jugg every leg

[stuck phoenix]

Actually I use it literally every league

[spice pecan]

xdd

[fickle glen]

Idk brine king by heart

[stuck phoenix]

Because it's the first major pantheon

[spice pecan]

i also use it every league

[stuck phoenix]

Or occultist lel

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

[stuck phoenix]

"Knowing something by heart" is a figure of speech for knowing it perfectly

[fickle glen]

@stuck phoenix

[stuck phoenix]

Hm?

[fickle glen]

You asked for my build

[thick goblet]

is this an auto generated name

[fickle glen]

No I chose that

[stuck phoenix]

Just grab the url

[thick goblet]

that's very funny

[stuck phoenix]

I guess bot down

[thick goblet]

!profile

[covert swan]

aphoitic user does not have any XP statistics.

[proud gorge]

but yeah, that's honestly one of PoE's biggest issues for new player experience, it practically doesn't help you at all with your builds. Most other games have more simple and more boxed-in build structure available, and will do their best to guide you into good things. PoE, by comparison, is ridiculously large and complex, the amount of builds you can pick from are near endless, but it doesn't handhold you at all with your builds.

[fickle glen]

Idk how to do that

[stuck phoenix]

That was a message that should've been yoinked by a bot which would then paste a message

[covert swan]

To link your profile, log in to the website and follow these steps https://puu.sh/v17at/5ee63f8fb9.mp4

Then, copy paste the current URL at the top of your browser window, and paste it here.

--

To link to specific characters: use the following format
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Your Profile/characters?realm=ONE of (pc|sony|xbox)&characterName=Your Character

example for PC: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/SynergicFuture-0634/characters?realm=PC&characterName=YellowOneFPSDeath

[stuck phoenix]

https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account

[proud gorge]

The most "handholding" PoE does is by giving you skill gems and support gems that are vaguely "supposed" to be used by the class you're currently playing

[stuck phoenix]

Oh bot woke up now

Amazing

[stuck phoenix]

Was gonna say go here, click characters, copy url

[proud gorge]

except it doesn't tell you which work with which, or what's good, or how to build things

[stuck phoenix]

Smh imagine thinking I mixed up the command but actually you did

[proud gorge]

or what items to use, or skill links, or auras, or any of that

[fickle glen]

It amazes me how close the devs look into detail for these builds to prevent them from being over powered

[stuck phoenix]

Definitely

Well, tbh poe does have very good balancing relative to the complexity

But much of it is by just looking at meta and nerfing

[thick goblet]

i had more faith in nessa's consciousness than your memory

[stuck phoenix]

And buffing off meta sometimes

[lean urchin]

[stuck phoenix]

Smh smh smh

[stuck phoenix]

Bro is in a gambling mood

[proud gorge]

I mean, there's certainly some overpowered builds out there, but PoE isn't really a game where there can truly be a single "strongest" build, unless it's just actually completely broken, like, 10x better than every other build in every category

like, the build that currently has the highest DPS is like 1000x or more stronger than the more "average" DPS for endgame builds, but it barely matters

[fickle glen]

I have not found a build that doesn’t come with weaknesses yet

[proud gorge]

there's very little functional difference between 100 mil DPS and 10 billion DPS at the endgame

[stuck phoenix]

Do you consider cost a weakness

[proud gorge]

and most builds survive just fine on like 10-60 mil

[fickle glen]

Yes

[sinful cove]

I eat the green apples

[stuck phoenix]

There's no build without a weakness

[proud gorge]

I mean

[sinful cove]

Yes there is, silence

[thick goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-oh-yeah-smile-gif-18043435

bros speaking in riddles

[sinful cove]

[proud gorge]

Kinetic Blast of Clustering is, like, the epitome of a Jack of All Trades build this league

[fickle glen]

I’ve never seen this riddler version he look clean

[sinful cove]

https://tenor.com/view/diablo-2-diablo2-loading-d2-dark-wanderer-gif-12804683239497310412

[proud gorge]

it's cheap to start, good scaling with investment, good clear, good DPS, good tankiness, fast, easy, simple

it's not the best at any of that

but it'll do everything, and it'll do it well

[thick goblet]

yeah it's from the batman tv show in the 70s?
the actor didnt wanna wear green spandex, so he suggested this suit
and then riddler started wearing it sometimes in later comics

[sinful cove]

I’m getting one tapped in T1, I suck for some reason. I did a lot better on PS5

[stuck phoenix]

Lol

Post build

[sinful cove]

Anyway, it’s tap time. I’ll be back

[proud gorge]

so I'd probably call KBoC Necro a build with no clear weaknesses

[stuck phoenix]

Amazing

[sinful cove]

https://tenor.com/view/layzner-fap-aoki-ryuusei-spt-layzner-blue-comet-spt-layzner-spt-layzner-gif-27647733

[fickle glen]

Eww spendex 😂

[proud gorge]

I guess their phys max hit isn't the greatest?

but they have plenty of room to invest into it

there's KBoC Necros out there running around with like 20k phys max hit

I guess they're... weaker when they can't leech?

[stuck phoenix]

See? Weakness

Xddd

Another weakness? Likely to be nerfed next league :p

Or not, I dunno

Though is the single target dps good?

[proud gorge]

it's good enough for Ubers yeah

[stuck phoenix]

Oh well

[proud gorge]

from what I've seen (I haven't played it myself) their single target DPS is actually quite good, in fact

again, not top tier, but good at everything

[silent leaf]

banners lmao, the only weakness is map mods

[spice pecan]

let me know when you can pick the banners up and throw them

[lean urchin]

-15 divines profit from stacked deck gamba

[stuck phoenix]

Nice

[lean urchin]

thats a minus, not tilde

[stuck phoenix]

I know.

Xddddd

Look at it this way

The guy who farmed the decks just made a 15d profit

Well, probably several guys

But anyways

[lean urchin]

15 divines removed from economy

[fickle glen]

A I says I need to do enough damage to take 10% of an enemies life with a shocking skill to apply %50 shock which is the maximum, is this true?

I am thinking about becoming lightning user only

[sage falcon]

use wiki, not ai!!

but remember you can scale with ailment effect

so for example if you have 100% effect of non-damaging ailments, you only need to deal 17.68% to get 50% shock

[fickle glen]

I’m not what the threshold mean

[sage falcon]

it's based off of monster life

so high life = high threshold = need to deal high damage to shock for high %

[sage falcon]

wiki, again:

In the great majority of cases, a monster's ailment threshold is equal to its maximum life. It primarily differs for especially high-life monsters (such as The Shaper), where the threshold is reduced to allow ailments to be applied with hits that wouldn't ordinarily reach the required life thresholds.[2] Playtesting estimates the ailment threshold on Sirus, the Awakener of Worlds to be 25 million damage, or approximately 35% of boss life.[3]

[polar wolf]

sending my first 50m shipment, where do i send it for mirror shards

i see people get it

[fickle glen]

Ok

[silent leaf]

kalguur

[fickle glen]

This is an English issue then I’ll research it some more

[normal hedge]

ngakanu

[opaque sphinx]

watch beauty crumble

[spice pecan]

is profane bloom still decent if you aren't scaling chaos hit damage?

[opaque sphinx]

yes

[spice pecan]

it might be wintertide time

[dreamy charm]

anyone try that impending doom build with the foulborn unique helm? how hard/expensive is it to build

[opaque sphinx]

50c

ez

[spice pecan]

get exactly 3 curse limit, wear vixen's entrapment, go to town

[opaque sphinx]

buy helm buy vixen buy unlight ur good to go

[spice pecan]

do not get 2 curse limit, do not get 4 curse limit

get exactly 3

[dreamy charm]

is it that easy to get might try that build in the pohx pl then

[spice pecan]

you'll have to play something else till the helm and vixen's entrapment become available

ideally also you'd want rebuke of the vaal as a starter weapon too i think

[opaque sphinx]

unlight

[spice pecan]

ew

[dreamy charm]

might start as explosive arrow then untill i can get that gear ty for advice

[spice pecan]

rebuke of the vaal purists ONLY

[opaque sphinx]

15 wither beats any and all 1 hands till u spend like a few d

[spice pecan]

but yeah unlight is actually pretty good

assuming you're playing poison

if ignite then rebuke beats it

[opaque sphinx]

even not

its good for hit for imp doom

[spice pecan]

you don't play hit based tho

actually you can on assassin with the rework

[opaque sphinx]

ye but u can when u have a lvl 30 gem for free

[spice pecan]

because of the crit, but you would need a high base crit weapon

it has like 5% base crit

it's really hard to build as hit even with that imo

but it's possible

[opaque sphinx]

u dont need to crit too

till invest

[dreamy charm]

explosive arrow still ok right as a start right? i did reap already dont want to do that again

[spice pecan]

EA ballista? ive heard it's good and tanky but you have to wait 3 business days for damage

[opaque sphinx]

how did u go from wanting to play a really strong and cheap build after us confirming it is both very strong and very cheap

to wanting to play ea ballista

[dreamy charm]

for the private league on friday sorry i didnt specify

[spice pecan]

because you probably can't level as impending doom on leaguestart for PL yeah

[opaque sphinx]

ah