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steel light
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let maven play

pseudo axle
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oh soul eater is capped, boo

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is there a way to curse your own minions?

icy swan
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Got 90 res too but no endu and dont know dr% physical ?

pseudo axle
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probably not that'd be too weird for normal use

elder marlin
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Zombie of falling

pseudo axle
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oh I can't use silk touch if I'm going akuna's will

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which I might

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still thinking on it

elder marlin
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Triggering 200 spell per second seems impossible for me

pseudo axle
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its literally not

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each arcanist brand casts the falling zombie, each, multiple times per second, each zombie lives ~ one second, we're also scaling brand cast speed off our own cast speed

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plus I don't even need a full 200 zombies falling per second to get insane juice out of this tech

thick goblet
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are you going sabo

pseudo axle
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not sure yet

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theoretically I can go anything

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its literally just abusing the catarina bloodline

thick goblet
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how are you solving mana btw

pseudo axle
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with a very low investment tech setup

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oh, right, we're necromancer

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duh

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corpse consumption

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ramps up attack and cast speed into the stratosphere and also regens us some mana

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also the zombies don't need to do anything

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so we just need brand + zombie

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we're an attack build so we can leech mana

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I mean, you could cut the corpse consumption tech out and go something else if you can solve the cast speed + mana requirements

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all you need is 2 points in catarina bloodline, attack skill, brands + zombie attached + cast speed + mana leech/regen

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that's it to make this tech work for almost any attack build on like, a boss, or something

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you don't even need the brand! you could figure out how to automate the zombies another way in theory

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I don't think they share a cooldown limit between them

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so if you had two different gems going, there you go

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again this is all assuming that some cheeky beeky at GGG didn't disable this interaction with umbral army, idk, and I'm not in a position to test it

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in theoy it should work

elder marlin
pseudo axle
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pob wouldn't tell me shit on if it REALLY works

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also, lol I took a look at the warden class, thinking that maybe it might have something spicy for such a weird build

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nah

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what an awful rework

elder marlin
pseudo axle
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brother, I know my cast math

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I literally don't

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need help with that part

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its possible

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trust

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even if its not 200 and just 100 or whatever its still such a gigantic % increase

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even if I get 100 zombies going at once, at max cast speed, with all my brands up

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that is STILL something on the order of 1500% increased damage

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at that point you could use an unarmed attack and delete bosses

elder marlin
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i can make a character to test it out

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i have like 100d to fool around

pseudo axle
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I mean I could do it on standard if I really gave a shit

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nah I'm gonna do it myself eventually

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I'm just theorycrafting myself a build to work towards as I farm tomorrow

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oh, I see

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yes, the solution is to use Inquisitor

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we've finally found a use for Instruments of Zeal

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75% more cast speed seems legit to me

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there's a tiny bit of ramp up time but after that you theoretically have infinite uptime

whole bluff
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How is keepers of the flame atm? I might be coming back to finish challenges

pseudo axle
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I can't believe its not breach! - GGG's motto for the league, and my feelings on it

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ok so there's a few different ways you can go with this build, is my understanding now, either you go inquisitor with instruments of zeal for the fanatacism buff which is exactly the kind of buff this build needs, or you go necromancer for the corpse consumption, I don't -think- any other class has relevant nodes to help us

tawdry olive
whole bluff
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hmm

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there were a lot of coold builds right? I forgot

opal ingot
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what the fuck

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i shouldve tried this on my kf...

pseudo axle
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we could go Akuna's Will + Queen's Hunger for Corpse Consumption and offering synergies marauderthinking

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oh I thought there was an offering that regenerated energy shield

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or did they get rid of that

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anyway, if anyone overnight tests this and finds out if it works or not, let me know, I'm gonna be heading to bed soon and it might be a while before I check if the tech works myself

strong totem
pseudo axle
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what are you using it for

strong totem
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Everything

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People hate me for suggesting it

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I've done it most of the ways. Even as a staff leap slam rolling magma

earnest raven
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Inquis is always the answer

strong totem
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Nope

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Hiero with forbidden

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I buy a set every league

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This league I needed searing purity instead sadly

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The frostblink speed you get is addicting

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The secret is animation cancelling

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Good night

whole bluff
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man, I should sleep too, it's 04:30 AM

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I need to check my post history, cuz my stash in league is a mess and I dont remember what I was doing

tawdry olive
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its a bit inconsistent whether i survive the blast, it was 1/3 for me, how much int do you have now?

gritty epoch
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3.8k

pseudo axle
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oh yeah we could just get forbidden flesh/flame combo with instruments of zeal to do this

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but it'd be a requirement to get it tbh

gritty epoch
tawdry olive
gritty epoch
tawdry olive
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yea i have zero crit reduction

whole bluff
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Ngl, challenges are a great thing. I got some time over, and the challenges are motivating me to pick PoE over LE

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it's just that my situation in PoE is a mess, my char was so ultra shit

supple plaza
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stop yapping, riot

tawdry olive
pseudo axle
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I could see sanctuary of thought hierophant with this

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the hiero node that grants inc brand activation would do it

gritty epoch
elfin shale
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Kalandra league had damage type immunities showing up on normal ass rares right?

whole bluff
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not that I can remember? maybe?

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it was the first league with new rare mods

gritty epoch
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Afaik no?

whole bluff
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which people already saw as problematic in Archnemesis league

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when they built something that was just unfun to fight

elfin shale
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Yeah i thought damage type immunities was one of those mods

whole bluff
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dont think so

gritty epoch
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Archnemesis was introduced earlier, in.... Archnemesis league... They changed how the loot interacts tho

whole bluff
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archnemesis was old rares but build your own archnemesis rare with both old and new rare mob modifiers

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it became all rares the league after

gritty epoch
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I see

whole bluff
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but Ziggy for example already had a video talking about how he didnt like archnemesis as a mechanic because of things like temporal mobs

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before they made it core and everywhere anyway

elfin shale
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what the fuck lmfao

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whole bluff
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does it still do that, or was that the old version?

tawdry olive
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think a big turning point for the game was when they removed random reflect from mobs
popularly this was a good decision, but I believe builds back then considered this mod as part of the build, and offence/defense scaling in builds was very balanced because you need to take as much as you deal

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nowadays its all dps all day every day

elfin shale
whole bluff
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ah

elfin shale
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Rares to spellcasters specifically for some reason:

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I say that im sure there's something that fucks over attacks plenty

pseudo axle
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attack block mod

waxen delta
whole bluff
# tawdry olive think a big turning point for the game was when they removed random reflect from...

It felt to me like GGG opened the pandoras box of fun around 2018, then they regretted it and acted on that regret in expedition. However, community backlash was so hard it is almost understandable they went and ended up making poe2. But what's sad is that the players who didnt become as toxic over stuff like expedition were probably playing poe1 manned by a skeleton crew for years while they developed poe2 for a different crowd

pseudo axle
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reflect was dumb and bad tbh

tawdry olive
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its hard to believe but community was once 90% HC players or something like that

whole bluff
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the HC elitism was awful, I was so unfit for HC but played it anyway

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I ripped idk how many characters to desecrated ground in HC, or killing Uber Elder when it was still hard then dying to a DC cuz I forgot my internet was planned to go down

elder marlin
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whats azadi crest tier?

pseudo axle
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hc elitism was dumb and bad too and the people who contributed to that culture are clowns

elder marlin
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im planning to chance scour it

tawdry olive
weary sky
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guys my trade tab dont work. its public price has been set, but there is no offer on poetrade. do anyone know what could be reason?

pseudo axle
whole bluff
pseudo axle
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I tip my hat to people who play those modes

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I will never kiss their ass over it

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thats the standard

weary sky
tawdry olive
elfin shale
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Is there any way to test if something is doing a 0 damage hit

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Blind support i guess

pseudo axle
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hex on hit?

elfin shale
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nooooo it doesnt

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its so joever

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OH

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MY GOD

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Wait

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nvm

hard cliff
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@elfin shale

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what the fuck are you doing ????

tawdry olive
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this is what it looks like when a person is cooking

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you gotta let em cook

elfin shale
drowsy eagle
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can I hide here po2 is on fire, so uhh... seven league steps

hard cliff
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yes hello @drowsy eagle

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we will feed you

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Poe 1 meta right now is intelligence/accuracy stack juggernaut with double claws

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and wands are super strong

tawdry olive
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finally my dual claw dreams come true

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too bad its not shadow tho, not maximum edge yet

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cant put on the linkin park music

elfin shale
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Oh weird

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Chain Hook still has the staggered hits strike skills had before Necro

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man you really can clear white T1s with fucking anything huh

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weary sky
whole bluff
tawdry olive
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LE as in last epoch?

whole bluff
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yup

tawdry olive
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that one isn't doing too hot right now either...

whole bluff
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I had fun in there with my chars, that's what matters

tawdry olive
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hard to believe they had their best league ever and then turns out it was losing money anyway and they had to sell

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i had a lot of fun with the game too

whole bluff
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poe2 has two types of spells, one is a bit indirect and confusing and not really what I want, and the other screwed over by an unfinished successor to power charges (power charges still exist, and have tons of itemization, they just dont work on most spells)

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LE has really nice primalist stuff, that I didnt finish

stuck phoenix
whole bluff
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unfortunately, my lvl 92 in keepers is a shadow

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had it been an elementalist, I'd prolly be farming something on it already

tawdry olive
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were you trying new assassin stuff?

whole bluff
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yup

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then I went trickster, then I gave up

tawdry olive
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the rework was a dud, especially this league because it feels like the ascendancy has a lot of early power

whole bluff
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yeah

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iirc it was jugular that did giga things for my dmg early on, but you never wanna stop there

tawdry olive
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some of the nodes i really dont understand what they were thinking, like the deathmarked one

whole bluff
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unless you get the other half on forbiddens, but then defence where

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yeah

pseudo axle
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can we kill warden and bring back raider

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why does warden exist lol

opal ingot
whole bluff
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just make tinctures permanent imo

tawdry olive
whole bluff
pseudo axle
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welp, guess I'm gonna to back to trying to farm allflame embers

whole bluff
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hmm, in LE, I had a fun mixed MG/CoF acc, then I stupidly decided to stunt my progress trying to do a fresh run for uberoth on crows

pseudo axle
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or I might go back to strongboxes idk

whole bluff
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I am stuck farming beasts and essences in t7

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cuz char so bad

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and I didnt wanna make some cookie cutter

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so I have afk build, cwdt, that only works in low content...

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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best way to enjoy keepers for me might be a restart on something somewhat meta

tawdry olive
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similar with heist just rush 1 wing blueprints

tawdry olive
whole bluff
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ye

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I do want 40/40, and work comes back in a few days, so I might better do meta if I wanna keep going for 40/40

lavish oak
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If you need any help with boss carries give me a yell

tawdry olive
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work....

whole bluff
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hopefully I can make the ubers go down, problem is if anything exploded in price

lavish oak
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Or just sit in 40/40\

whole bluff
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but otoh, work is a lot

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yup

whole bluff
lavish oak
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Global 4040

whole bluff
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ah, nice

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stuff like that usually works yeah

lavish oak
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Honestly the remembered was the most tedious thing to get to spawn

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None of the other challenges were too hard

tawdry olive
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yea that was like challenge 38 or smth for me too

whole bluff
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I might not have the energy/time to do a thorough meta check and make something that can just easily obliterate ubers and then farm some maps for the rest, but that shouldnt be too hard

lavish oak
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Actually I lucked out and someone gave me rogue exile juiced by 3 ghosts and one of the others for the cross contamination challenge, that one would have been one of my lasts

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I downed all the ubers and then farmed uber maven on a fairly bare bones KF elementalist this league

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If you're looking for something cheap that can also do t17's

whole bluff
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I dont even know if I'm going back to slacking at a workshop on my end of town from 8am to 3pm, or working with stuff where I need to learn literally everything yesterday from 7am to 4:20-5:30pm at other end of town, so either hitting 40/40 will be easy or something I might not even do

whole bluff
lavish oak
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It's the jack of all trades this league, a super solid foundation for a ton of builds

whole bluff
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I wanna do an elementalist spellcaster prolly, there should be a lot of options

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if it has to be wands, I might do that though

lavish oak
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Most played spells for ele that aren't penance brand(not really a spell obvs) are arc, divine ire and winter orb

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And reap I guess if you're into that

whole bluff
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all of those options are valid to me

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reap too

lavish oak
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The reason I say KF is that good wands are dirt cheap and 1% off perfect rings and amulets are also dirt cheap

whole bluff
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that's neat I guess

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I will consider wands, if it's substantially easier to hit 40/40 on, that is a big draw

lavish oak
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The damage scaling on KF is incredibly easy, once you hit 8-10ish attacks per second at 8+ proj each, any small increase adds up

finite quail
twilit granite
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is it worth trying to get the other version of sunder for bleed build or is the basic sunder enough?

sinful cove
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Anyone have a few thousand gold I ca have? I just started PC from PS5 today

dry tree
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Gold isn't tradable and you can't beg in this server

lavish oak
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Yup, also of all things to ask for you ask for gold, that's an odd one

twilit granite
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maybe wanted to gamble on buying godtier gear from Faustus

lavish oak
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Probably the worst way to twink out a new character, you'd almost be better off asking a trade chat for handouts since uniques are dropping like crazy this league. Could snap up a league start set for nothing

hard cliff
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They should make a unique that drains exp when up use it

heady cliff
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literal exp leech aura?

fickle glen
lavish oak
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Voidhome comes pretty close to that

hard cliff
fickle glen
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Do we still lose exp when character dies?

lavish oak
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Yup

hard cliff
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yes but not on pinnacle bosses

fickle glen
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Geh

tawdry olive
hard cliff
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congrats

tawdry olive
fickle glen
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My witch is great now with MOM and EB perks

fickle glen
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Everyone would be happy to keep their exp

tawdry olive
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i mean i would, but i get why its there

fickle glen
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Path of exile is not for noobs like me

finite quail
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you have to get it yourself

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also no begging allowed in the server

finite quail
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0% in important bossfights, like pinnacles and bosses opened from fragments

fickle glen
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That 10% is brutal

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It takes hours to get it back

pseudo axle
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what are people using horned scarab of pandemonium for?

lavish oak
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It depends on how high a level you are, sure if you're not doing anything juicy then 10% at 99 can take hours but it shouldn't take that long lower than that

finite quail
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if you're 96+ or something, sure

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But at that point its generally difficult to die since you'll have invested in your build quite a lot

fickle glen
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I made it to like 78 last season

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Couldn’t get past that

finite quail
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That makes all shrines have a map boss

pseudo axle
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ah

opaque sphinx
fickle glen
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Haha only in mine

opaque sphinx
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main thing with levelling is just doing content ur ready for

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if u keep dyinh in red maps, go down to yello, if u die in yello go down to white

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if rolling ur maps rare kills u, go down to magic etc

lavish oak
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If you were constantly dying at 78 then you probably needed to take a look at your defences more

opaque sphinx
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getting to 90+ doesn't take a lot in the way of character power, if you follow any leaguestarter you'll have a much easier time

opaque sphinx
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unless ur running decent rolled red maps damage is usually ur issue

hard cliff
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what did you play brother @fickle glen

lavish oak
# opaque sphinx damage

True but depending on how new someone is, capped resistances could even be something they don't have. You can still level pretty far with zdps as long as you survive

hard cliff
opaque sphinx
fickle glen
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She’s my favorite

hard cliff
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me too

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you gotta be way more specific though

fickle glen
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I placed a little bit of everything on her

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Minions and elements

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Curses etc

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Focusing on 1 goal to be good in this game just doesn’t seem all that fun to me

lavish oak
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Honestly for doing such an all over the place build and probably not focusing on defences, getting to 78 is pretty solid

hard cliff
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yeah really lol

fickle glen
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You think so? I appreciate that

hard cliff
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he sure picked the right do everything class too

fickle glen
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I remember someone on this server saying that minions do the highest damage in this game but the most boring to play, is this true?

gritty epoch
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no, but boring imo

lavish oak
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In poe 1 you do unfurtunately have to settle on one main thing to be your damage delivery system though, otherwise you won't end up being able to kill anything

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Not saying you can't dabble in all things, you just need to specialise in 1

fickle glen
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It’s so expensive to change build if you end up getting bored of one

gritty epoch
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ppl farm 100hours so that they can play one button build

lavish oak
# fickle glen That’s not fun!

Then completing the entire game might not be something that is fun for you. At the end of the day poe is about how you play it for your own enjoyment. Nobody here NEEDS to be able to kill all ubers, never measure your playstyle by how far someone else can go comparatively

fickle glen
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😩

lavish oak
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It's the same as in WoW, nobody expectes everyone who plays to be able to get to mythic raiding, that's just silly. Go at your own pace and maybe set certain goals for yourself each time you play a new league

fickle glen
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I thought I could do that with different classes with an all round builds to what they can use

tawdry olive
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like not even fixing it

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literally just being able to tell "yea thats why i died"

lavish oak
lavish oak
livid quarry
fickle glen
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It’s those ranged monsters that always get you

gritty epoch
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MagicCuriousity killed the MagicCat

lavish oak
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Rolling =%500 monster crit and crit multi on a map and ignoring it, then standing onshocked ground and face tanking a snipe from a ranged mob, pop

hard cliff
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a wizard

hard cliff
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me including

proud gorge
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I always find it very funny when I'm in my hideout for whatever reason, and someone suddenly pops in to buy something from Faustus

tawdry olive
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i like it when they have auras

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makes my number go up

proud gorge
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like walking into your kitchen in the middle of the night only to see someone drinking a beer from the fridge

tawdry olive
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especially discipline, suddenly feel like i am not zhp Pogott

proud gorge
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oh that reminds me, thanks, I gotta grab a Vaal Discipline

gritty epoch
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Ppl having meltdown over at Poe2 Pogott

stone wing
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Lel

proud gorge
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what's going on now

thick goblet
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they nerfed the 100s of raw div/hr temple strat

gritty epoch
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Afaik u can't build temples now, but those ppl with built temples can still farm it forever kek

proud gorge
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ah, on the one hand I can understand doing an emergency nerf to a massively overperforming strat, but like, this seems like pretty much the worst possible way to have gone about doing so

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and like, from what I'm seeing, they haven't actually even removed the strat

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just made it way way harder and more time consuming to create

thick goblet
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ig one funny side effect is some mirror tier crafts can actually go for the 1 in 10000 divines now

gritty epoch
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🍿

proud gorge
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and man, the PoE2 defender squads are somehow out there still

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saying stuff like "yeah I don't actually care, because if it's this bad then I'll just be back next league when things are wiped anyways, long term it doesn't matter"

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and like, yes, sure

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but that doesn't change the current state of reality for the rest of the league lmao

gritty epoch
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"Go outside"

proud gorge
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"The change isn't that bad as long as you're not playing the game"

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it's barely noticable as long as you keep your eyes closed

stray sedge
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it is -15 and snow and wind but I'll do it just for fun

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aw the snow let up

astral moth
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I just understood how the temple works and was about to create my own chain and now they nerf it :((

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But the people with their big chains can still make use of spymaster + legionbarracks and farm endless medalions

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shouldn't all temple also completely be reseted?

proud gorge
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I mean, probably yeah

astral moth
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only a handful of people now have these completely broken legion->spymaster setup with several rooms, so they will always have one of the medalions restricting rooms from destabilizing, won't this make the current situation even worse?

gritty epoch
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Yes imo

proud gorge
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yeah

opal ingot
slate olive
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Hi,is there Somone can help me hunderstand or explain me a lil bit poe1?

opal ingot
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and your question is kinda too general

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too much stuff goin around in poe1. better if u have somethign specific u want to know

slate olive
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Alr thank you

slate olive
opal ingot
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wtf

slate olive
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Yup I have no access

opal ingot
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?????

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try modmail haha

slate olive
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Ok

opal ingot
thick goblet
slate olive
opal ingot
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bro what

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rule 1 start has an extra space

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and rule 9 doesn't have a space inbetween

slate olive
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Maybe for question i can go in poe1 vocal chat for gettign some advice to start the game UHM

visual stream
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its an trap for OCD ppl

opal ingot
slate olive
proud gorge
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I think Arc is the one that was generally recommended, but I dunno if there's a current Arc guide

slate olive
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Alr i hunderstand lemme Check that but I kinda wanted to do an paladin sword character but anyway thank you for advice

proud gorge
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unfortunately I don't think PoE1 has a traditional Paladin archetype

slate olive
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It’s Alr but is there an charcter that fight with an shield ?

proud gorge
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we've got Champion, Gladiator, Slayer, Juggernaut, Chieftain, Berserker, Inquisitor, Hierophant, and Guardian as sort of vaguely that sort of thing?

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lots of them

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shields are pretty common yeah

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Sword + Shield is, like, 12% of all players right now I think

slate olive
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Like sceptre of an Templar+ Sheild work ?

proud gorge
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yeah, that can work

slate olive
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Ok! That sounds good I just want to fight with an shield

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Imma go play to poe1 now and enjoy it like diablo or torchlite ❤️

proud gorge
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oh hey, I just activated Rogue Exiles (off my free craft) and had Overloaded Circuits on, and I seem to have randomly both acquired and rolled the 8% chance for 20 extra Rogue Exiles

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also apparently Additional Rewards and Possessed

unique silo
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When does this current league end?

proud gorge
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doesn't chage that their drops kind of suck without heavy scarab investment though

lavish oak
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2 more months roughly

proud gorge
unique silo
lavish oak
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Plenty of time to dig in to the new foulborn items and build around them

unique silo
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Does anyone have a build for aura stacking?

sour umbra
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Smite

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Or energy blade

elder marlin
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i can use a unique boots for my cws, what should i use?

gritty garnet
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if it's a chieftain run the adrenaline boots

elder marlin
gritty garnet
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make your own pair?

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adrenaline gives 10% pdr anyway

elder marlin
gritty garnet
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get a pair of death's door then same price without corrupt

elder marlin
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30d for a +1 endu annihilation UHM

split maple
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that kinda dont sound expensive?

elder marlin
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out of currency alr

split maple
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time to hit the ultis

elder marlin
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still have to buy 6 chaos tattoo

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oh wait wtf, annihilation gives freeze and chill immune

split maple
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just pob if you can handle degen on glad, you prolly can

elder marlin
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prob worth

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1.5k to 500

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now im freeze, shock, bleed, cb, crit, poison, chill immune

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curse immune next ig

sick stirrup
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asked for fast boots in the game cuz im a new noob ppl bombed my stash with crazy stuff i cant even use tho bless thy hearts of the cool ppl helping noobs

elder marlin
fickle glen
#

Are there ways to get primal aegis other than the elementals perk Bastion of Elements?

sick stirrup
#

wdym by that sing he also gave me what he said is money but they are werid shapped stones

wraith rock
#

Finally all final season of Stranger Things is out..Now I get to see diet Kitava Herald in action

elder marlin
fickle glen
elder marlin
#

In this game

wraith rock
elder marlin
sick stirrup
#

i got to mv spd 50 and one shoe that glows diff colors

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how much is 1c irl usd

elder marlin
wraith rock
#

tree fiddy

sick stirrup
#

aint no loch ness monsta

gritty garnet
#

nothing because you get banned if you try trading for real money

wraith rock
sick stirrup
#

naaa not intrested in trading stuff for money was just curious how the in game money system works for ppl that want to buy stuff

elder marlin
wraith rock
#

chaos would be lik pennies in RL

elder marlin
#

Everything else is based on those 2

sick stirrup
#

wonder how many Cs like the rarest stuff goes for

elder marlin
#

Calculate that urself

proud gorge
#

I mean, good high-tier farming methods are, like, 10 div/hr, while mid-low tier methods are like 2 div/hr, so I dunno if "1 dollar per div" makes sense

wraith rock
#

so like $100-200

sick stirrup
#

naaa do u have to like build the thing into a mirror or is it like a super rare drop

elder marlin
split maple
#

10$/h would be decent salary in majority of world, so kinda makes sense to me

lavish oak
#

Stuff in standard can run hundreds of mirrors to buy. Many tens of thousands of divines

proud gorge
#

yeah but that's not "decent salary", that's "high investment for the rich"

elder marlin
wraith rock
fickle glen
#

Is it possible to increase mana reservation efficiency of spellslinger to 100%?

sick stirrup
#

but u guys said trading stuff for irl money would get u banned i dont get it lol

elder marlin
split maple
#

We saying that dollar irl is kinda like divine ingame, not that divine is Worth a dolar

elder marlin
fickle glen
proud gorge
split maple
#

What there is this mastery for spellslinger reserve

proud gorge
#

so 100% reservation efficiency would give you an extra 100% "reservation space"

split maple
#

Slap enlighten on it too

thick goblet
split maple
#

And myb corrupt helmet

elder marlin
#

Or corrupted implicits/ichor ember implicits

sick stirrup
#

yeah everyone is on diff currencies

split maple
#

"25% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency of Skills Supported by Spellslinger" wand mastery

fickle glen
elder marlin
#

Theres also mastery for spellslinger reservation

sick stirrup
#

the dude said i should start follwing a build for my witch in poe1 but like every vid shows the build for end game not noobs on act 3 lol

split maple
#

Holy flame totems and rolling magma

elder marlin
#

Unless u r an aura stacker, u dont need this much reseservation

split maple
#

That's everything you need for acts

thick goblet
lavish oak
fickle glen
split maple
#

Threw enlighten 4 at heralds already?

lavish oak
fickle glen
#

I already have 100% for heralds but don’t know if I can for spellslinger

thick goblet
elder marlin
sick stirrup
#

Thanks Alex n Aphoitic for helping out,

split maple
#

!guides

covert swanBOT
#

A short list of places to find builds for new players:

Maxroll.GG's leaguestarter buildguide section has high quality build guides

If you are more into video guides, a playlist by the youtuber Zizaran, he also has a bunch of other video guides for new players.

A collection of minion build guides created/ curated by GhazzyTV

You can also always find popular builds on the Builds section of Poe.ninja, but those aren't really guides, just snapshots of live player builds without any explanation for what makes them good or not good.

fickle glen
lavish oak
worldly wind
#

if you need a guide in act3 you don't need a build guide, you need a beginner tutorial

elder marlin
fickle glen
thick goblet
split maple
#

You cannot get lvl 6 woke enlighten tho

elder marlin
lavish oak
elder marlin
split maple
#

4

elder marlin
#

Ok so lv4 awk enlighten

split maple
#

Or wait 5

elder marlin
#

But prepare to sell 1 of ur kidney to get it

split maple
#

Yea 5 with corrupt

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Gonna bet basic enlighten on heralds already suffices tho lol

fickle glen
elder marlin
thick goblet
fickle glen
#

Hmm then I would need a staff in that case

#

No no this won’t work

split maple
#

Hard to use spellslinger with staff

fickle glen
#

Yeah power siphon is wand only

elder marlin
brazen vector
#

Ur pob here

split maple
#

Looking at emiracles 3.27 cws, is there actually nothing in cws links to proc hateful accuser with?

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Like whats doing the hitting

#

I don't see bladefall or firestorm

brazen vector
#

RF kills the shrimps

split maple
#

You need to hit marked target to summon shrimps

#

Like with that gem setup I need to shield charge trialmaster for them and that's not rly ergonomic

brazen vector
#

Flame surge hits

lavish oak
split maple
#

So Ig it's Just an issue of it not procing enough for me 🤔

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I see folks on Poeninja swap surge for pelting, prolly due to having same issue

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I think I Will swap to last league 6l, if nothing else flamewall isn't aesthetically pleasing at all

brazen vector
#

yea, flamewall looks bad

elder marlin
#

does this worth anything?

image.png
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-lightning higher int that t1 int

umbral crag
elder marlin
#

sadge

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prob my best reflecting mist this league

#

to be fair, i dont get much mist this league

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new drip

image.png
stray sedge
#

6k flat per sec lol 😄

#

that's a different "touched" effect compared to the hillock sword, right?

elder marlin
stray sedge
#

nvm its called "her embrace"

tawdry olive
elder marlin
#

curse immune or 27% mv spd?

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or ignite immune

#

or 60% armor

pulsar dune
#

mv speed

elder marlin
#

qol through the roof

image.png
split maple
#

got to say i am pretty happy with today upgrades

elder marlin
split maple
#

if it drops i will think about it

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not planning to invest more into build tbh, like cluster looks ugly but its good enough for what i need it for

elder marlin
split maple
#

that node is runegrafted anyways

elder marlin
#

oh

split maple
#

doesnt recoup in 3s mess up with petri blood degen?

elder marlin
#

i thought u runegraft the count as full life

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or the mana cost as life

split maple
#

does that still count as life mastery then?

elder marlin
#

cuz those two sound more useless than 3% to recover all

elder marlin
split maple
#

oh til nice to know

elder marlin
#

wait im dented

split maple
#

I think I just got you 10% life

elder marlin
#

does keystone benefit from light of meaning?

#

also does mastery count too?

split maple
#

i would conflict your gloves a bit

#

but thats just qol

elder marlin
split maple
#

yea

elder marlin
#

im planning the same

split maple
#

the more the merrier

elder marlin
#

both have conditional uptime

split maple
#

how so?

#

flesh and stone is unconditional no?

#

and for arctic armor practically you are stationary when it matters

elder marlin
#

arctic if i get knockback the pdr reset, flesh and stone if ranged enemy hit flesh and stone pdr have any effect

split maple
#

like you are hit immune so you only care about max hit not to be oneshot

#

is there any ranged scary attack in general play

elder marlin
#

but in ulti i get knockback more than u think

split maple
#

idk if you overthinking so much try to fit both in

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since practically rly difference is very small and both "feel" unconditional enough

elder marlin
#

also arctic also have the chill apply for hypothermia but coldsnap aoe is very large alr

elder marlin
#

does artic armor work to reduce rf and annihilation damage?

split maple
#

rf isnt hit

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aa is only for hits

#

same for booties

gritty epoch
#

Boots says damage iirc and somehow don't work with cwdt UHM

split maple
#

cwdt is also from hits only no?

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boots say damage over time

gritty epoch
#

Take 6000 fire damage per second

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When it came out I tried to do some cwdt meme with it

amber hornet
#

Hello i was wondering if someone could explain to me how lethal pride work. I dont understand what it does and what the number of warrior changes thanks

gritty epoch
#

Still mad I couldnt

proud gorge
#

man, I really need to stop doing Ultimatums, at least until I get a proper build and atlas tree for them

split maple
gritty epoch
amber hornet
pulsar dune
#

Yeah cwdt should definitely proc from.damage over time

#

Trust me

gritty epoch
#

Well it isn't explicitly stated UHM

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On the gem

proud gorge
#

as is every Ultimatum is like, 10 rounds of fighting for my life trying desperately to stay alive against massively overstatted enemies, and in return I get like two catalysts and some alchemy orbs

limpid prairie
edgy mountain
#

New season when?

split maple
#

dont crash the servers pls UHM

proud gorge
#

oh, and a random double-corrupted rare

pulsar dune
#

Trigger Supported Spells when you take (528-3272) total Damage from Hits

split maple
#

bribing helps with skiping them shit rares

silent leaf
split maple
#

and like you get what 2 catalyst waves by default?

limpid prairie
gritty epoch
#

Ok I'm wrong

edgy mountain
split maple
#

for interesting stuff you kinda need catalyzing + inscribing imo

silent leaf
gritty epoch
#

Hi

split maple
#

or at least dueling to fish for hateforge

proud gorge
split maple
#

i mean without invest also harvest and boxes feel crapo

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legion too

proud gorge
#

like you can still get double corrupt temples uninvested, or just open random strongboxes, or do a bit of blight for fun

split maple
#

ritual ig feels ok without invest

proud gorge
#

it's not going to be amazing but hey, it's there, putting more mobs into your map to get some extra map sustain or something

#

Shrine

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that's a good one

#

most of the shrine nodes are just "more shrines" anyways

amber hornet
limpid prairie
split maple
#

idk getting haste shrine feels pretty rewarding to me kek

limpid prairie
#

Run the maps as you wish, I'm just saying how it is

proud gorge
#

shrines puts more enemies in the map

#

my point being that I should probably just start skipping the Ultimatum encounters when they show up

split maple
#

these mobs wont drop loot tho without invest

proud gorge
#

since they take a while and don't give anything

limpid prairie
#

If you don't invest it's usually not worth your time that's why people usually block half of the mechanics

split maple
#

like you need nemeses at least

proud gorge
#

again, this isn't about putting them into the map, this is about encountering them naturally while, say, atlas climbing

split maple
#

why do ulti during atlas prog tho

#

same question for all other mechanic

#

like i just rush boss usually

proud gorge
#

some are easy and fast to run, some are just extra mobs, and Ultimatum is 10 rounds of really painful fighting for no real rewards

proud gorge
elder marlin
split maple
#

i didnt have issues ssf just killing a tad on the way

proud gorge
#

but yeah, Ultimatum definitely isn't worth it

split maple
#

with dp atlas

#

betrayal maybe helped a tad now that i think of it

elder marlin
limpid prairie
#

Your builds don't cough at the screen and kill everything in a 10 meters radius?

split maple
#

but like map drops are fine nowadays

proud gorge
#

I usually just do most mechanics when I come across them

minor mantle
#

ultimatum with no catalysing is just gambling

proud gorge
gritty epoch
#

I skip all mechanics Im not farming

split maple
#

all mechanics except heist caches ig are pure ass with no invest

#

like even betrayal if you dont have betrayal atlas

limpid prairie
#

I don't really get your point, like baseline Ultimatum is too slow and dangerous for its rewards?
Yeah I think so
I think it's maybe the hardest encounter and it gives nothing

proud gorge
#

me personally, I'm here to hit things and play the game, so deliberately not playing the game seems silly. Especially since the majority of mechanics are just "more enemies in your map"

#

but yeah, most mechanics are pretty easy and decently fast give some okay-ish rewards if you do them

#

Ultimatum is long and weirdly difficult and gives almost nothing of value

bright viper
#

You can definitely optimise the fun out if you're not careful imo

limpid prairie
#

Poe optimize? Never hear those words together xd

brazen vector
#

PoE is for Pathing Optimized Executable

split maple
grizzled lily
#

optimizing the fun out of poe is like trying to play the game in pacifist mode

#

only tinks create dopamine

#

game runs on 30 fps otherwise, i personally dont even look at the screen

#

i rely only on auditive receptors to increase my dopamine

limpid prairie
#

Why enter in PoE for the tings when you can just play the sound on loop

grizzled lily
#

its like asking a gambler why he is going to the casino instead of watching a

#

best gambles of all time montage

#

the thrill of hearing that sweet juicy tink or the exalt orb sound

#

wakes me up at night

#

i see a stop sign while driving, i get reminded of poe

limpid prairie
#

Sanest PoE player lmao

brazen vector
#

<@&174997701513969665>

proud gorge
#

You know, it's quite funny how I ended up playing Poison self-cast FRoSS actually

#

I was looking on poe.ninja for some interesting builds, came across FRoSS as an interesting skill for a high tankiness playstyle, filtered by FRoSS builds with a decent eHP and lowest max hit, and clicked one random build to see how the build is played. And I want "ah, that's fun, a self-cast poison build, let's download this PoB and get to planning"

#

turns out that one randomly selected PoB was one of like 30 people playing self-cast poison FRoSS in the entire league

grizzled lily
#

O M G and what happened next?!

proud gorge
#

the vast majority of surrounding builds were running CoC FRoSS, of course, while it turns out even the minority of people running self-cast FRoSS are running power charge stacking FRoSS

grizzled lily
#

No Way

proud gorge
#

somehow my one randomly picked PoB ended up being the most hipster possible variant lmao

grizzled lily
#

say less

frigid wedge
grizzled lily
#

!!!

split maple
#

poison fross was a thing in ssf last leg to gather gear for crit or coc version

#

since its kinda low maintenace

frigid wedge
split maple
#

yeah especially bc back then whispers wasnt uber drop

#

so you kinda could pull it off day1

limpid prairie
#

Hipster builds are the best
I have never seen a great hipster build but I'm here looking for it

proud gorge
#

yeah, in this case I've ended up deciding to just go with it anyways, since I do like the idea of playing a poison spell build (last time I did was a Bladefall Spellslinger Blade Blast build way back in the Spellslinger league when everyone else was playing VD)

brazen vector
bright viper
#

Poison bv has a special place in my heart

proud gorge
#

plus the fact that it's able to hit the DPS numbers I need at relatively low investment means I can invest much more heavily into defenses

limpid prairie
proud gorge
#

even beyond the norm for FRoSS builds

#

which is my preference anyways

frigid wedge
split maple
#

poison was better rogue exile farmer than crit back when exiles were good

#

since you have more space for MF

#

and bigger max hits yea

brazen vector
tawdry olive
#

Rogue exiles… once the tree is gone how will ssf unique farming even work

frigid wedge
#

ayaya

frigid wedge
split maple
brazen vector
split maple
#

farm stacked decks ez

brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

"target farm" cards with plenty scarabs

split maple
#

tho i am worried the same for sure

frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

youll farm your diviner strongboxes AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!

frigid wedge
#

its an aight mid tier farm

split maple
#

unique farming is in sad sad shape once you remove tree

frigid wedge
brazen vector
proud gorge
frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

millions will starve

frigid wedge
#

u gotta eat dat cake

proud gorge
#

A couple leagues ago I found a very funny EE Mamba build, that poisoned with lightning damage so that it could have a ridiculously strong Mamba poison

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

not at all the meta, but a fun take, and an extremely powerful one at that

brazen vector
#

why go ee, dot cap is dot cap even on the traditional one

frigid wedge
pulsar dune
#

Tho hybrid is probably better even there

proud gorge
#

it's just a tanky and high-scaling build that's easily able to hit DoT cap on Ubers while also being very tanky

brazen vector
frigid wedge
pulsar dune
#

Ehhh, maybe not for EE.

proud gorge
#

though the biggest "issue" with the build is that it relied on Mageblood to start the build lmao

brazen vector
#

master sturgeon

frigid wedge
pulsar dune
#

Surely you still click master surgeon

#

Was it not PF?

frigid wedge
limpid prairie
proud gorge
pulsar dune
frigid wedge
pulsar dune
#

Corrupted soul is good

proud gorge
#

like yeah, most builds aren't going to be the "meta" build, but who cares

#

if everyone played the meta we'd have a very boring game

brazen vector
frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

that's why I love poe.ninja trawling, you find these very hyper-specific sub-sub-sub-builds which, depending on how deep you go, could have anywhere between 30 and 4 people playing it, but the people who are are optimizing the heck out of it

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

it's how I found a very fun Zoo Wildspeaker Ranger build back in Phrecia, which despite being a random build with like 4 players on poe.ninja, for some reason had a full written guide and a super well made PoB

frigid wedge
#

other than inquis warden is the easiest ascendancy to pen resistances with

#

and ward still gets to elemental curse

limpid prairie
frigid wedge
#

disagree

#

1 tincture, 61 pen

split maple
#

warden feels to me like rly good ascend for high invest big damage builds

#

tho clicking buttons uff

frigid wedge
#

warden is incredibly effective for high dps

split maple
#

like looking at some stuff with aurabot and kboc

brazen vector
tawdry olive
frigid wedge
#

it gets basically every stat that u wish u could get on a flast

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

which I discovered when I messaged the highest level person playing the build, who clearly knew the most about it, to ask what spectre they were using on their build. And they linked me to their super well-crafted build PoB with full levelling trees and different budget level setups from leaguestart all the way up to multi-mirror.

#

Again, this was for a Phrecia-specific Wildspeaker build

frigid wedge
split maple
brazen vector
proud gorge
#

I have no idea why or how they had such a well-written build guide, for a build that was being played by maybe four total people in the Phrecia event league

split maple
limpid prairie
brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

and needed that much detail

proud gorge
#

maybe they were just one of those people who hangs out primarily in r/pathofexilebuilds

brazen vector
frigid wedge
tawdry olive
brazen vector
#

I mean, sure, my relic of a pact is 1 button

tawdry olive
#

Yikes

limpid prairie
#

CWS is also fake zero buttons right?

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

but yeah, "real build" tends to be used to mean a generalist build designed to do all content decently well, rather than a specialized content-specific build

frigid wedge
split maple
brazen vector
frigid wedge
#

for the content its actually suited for cws is 0 butttons

split maple
proud gorge
#

and I guess "real game" is all the stuff you encounter in maps, except not Ultimatum, and also not Blight, or Expedition

frigid wedge
brazen vector
#

playing rf in 2026?

frigid wedge
#

i say that with a 4L wintry blast in gloves with cast speed essence

split maple
frigid wedge
#

go afk high end blight esm

#

tell me its afkable

#

not blight ravaged

split maple
#

i didnt say blight is afkable

frigid wedge
#

high end map blight

split maple
#

i know what pain invigo bosslane is

frigid wedge
#

lmao

brazen vector
#

just blow the boss lane up

proud gorge
#

man, I need to come up with more ways to justify running RF

frigid wedge
#

the main blight strat doesnt even take boss lane rn

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

I bought Celestial RF ages ago and now I really need to play RF more to justify it

split maple
#

i didnt do blight since last leg yea

tawdry olive
#

That’s cool

proud gorge
#

maybe I'll play Mana RF at some point

#

probably next league though

brazen vector
#

Ill league start deaths oath next league

frigid wedge
#

@proud gorge just use it for the buff instead of the dot

proud gorge
#

I've used it for the buff in lots of builds yeah

frigid wedge
#

exactly

#

that is how it should be

proud gorge
#

but I don't like how small the ring is when you're using it like that

#

you can barely see the celestial

frigid wedge
limpid prairie
#

Size isn't everything

proud gorge
#

it's less of the majesty of space and more of the okayness of a little bit of stars

#

on that reminds me

frigid wedge
#

like my build

proud gorge
#

if you want to see something hilarious, go look at the really old videos of release RF

frigid wedge
brazen vector
frigid wedge
limpid prairie
brazen vector
frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

iirc the release RF is still used in the preview video for Divine Righteous Fire

#

it's so tiny

frigid wedge
#

sorry ill use a better example

limpid prairie
#

Not the biggest fan of frozen bread though

proud gorge
#

release RF is literally just a little circle under your feet and nothing else

frigid wedge
#

if i have small cookie and big cookie which one do u want ilori

proud gorge
#

you have to literally be standing on top of enemies to kill them

brazen vector
proud gorge
#

how did they come up with this

#

and more importantly why did they come up with this

frigid wedge
#

this is wiki page for totem

#

this was the purpose

#

maybe

finite quail
#

rf totem poggers

limpid prairie
proud gorge
#

look at it

image.png
#

this is what they've taken from us

#

Tiny RF

frigid wedge
#

IT LOOKS LIKE THE FOOT EFFECT FOR UR AURAS

#

LMAO

brazen vector
#

Melee RF

frigid wedge
#

ITS THE SIZE OF THE QUICKSILVER BUFF

#

ok i go get food before i forget to

brazen vector
#

cya later, bab

#

back to grim dawn

tawdry olive
#

i bought that game iunno how long ago, just too addicted to POE, took me forever before i got around to last epoch

frigid wedge
#

ok im back

#

also, i gotta say

#

as someone who plays builds that are completely unplayable without the minimap (visual clarity bleh) rf is the most distracting skill in the entire game

#

i literally avoid it whenever possible if im doing sanctum

#

it gets turned on only if its a boss room or a room w no traps

pulsar dune
#

yea it sucks in that way

frigid wedge
#

like, its fine, but i stop being able to figure out where my character is on the screen

limpid prairie
#

how do i do lab with ghost reaver build

frigid wedge
#

unallocate it

#

for the lab

#

or get like, ghost dance

#

if u have ev

limpid prairie
#

i have 509 ev

frigid wedge
#

u can technically also just try to go very very fast

#

and then kill the packs and lab totems

split maple
#

i grab like 20 regrets for labs with ghost rev

frigid wedge
#

icl i take 0 survival considerations in lab

#

i just go as fast as i can

#

and hope im fine

split maple
#

i kinda like survival considerations for gift labs

#

for basic ascend yea no fucks given

frigid wedge
#

sometimes it works

limpid prairie
#

its fourth will see how it goes...

frigid wedge
#

literally last week

frigid wedge
#

xD

limpid prairie
#

I feel the determination coursing through me

split maple
#

lemme join the fun

lemme.PNG
frigid wedge
split maple
#

Carrion

frigid wedge
#

y tho

split maple
#

Need the hordes ones

#

To fit in chaos golem

frigid wedge
#

isn't it better to go for stone golem of hoards bc u already need safeguarding

#

so if u get wrong one ur still getting smth u need

split maple
#

I thought only carrion od hordes gives global limit

frigid wedge
#

p sure ppl use carrion bc a. everyone else is using one, and b. bc the ppl that originally did, picked carrion bc golem itself has best dmg for going afk for breach stuff

split maple
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Carrion on wiki: The transfigured version has a new global limit of 3 golems, it can be all 3 Carrion Golem of Hordes, or a mix of golems from any golem skills.

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Stone on wiki: It also has a faster cooldown and grants 2 additional maximum Stone Golems

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Like is that wrong?

frigid wedge
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wiki page for golem limit doesnt seem to care

split maple
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I Will try to get stone too and test then

frigid wedge
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either way u probably want safeguarding to dc it anyway for more life so theres no harm in trying

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i imagine pob would tell u anyway

split maple
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manni is using basic stone

frigid wedge
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i just use carrion bc they look cool

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i have seem some logic tho and now use 4 instead of using 9

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and now have 2 of each buff golem

split maple
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oh nice 6 room lab

frigid wedge
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how r the darkshrines

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or do u not bother

split maple
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3 on shortest

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and i do not indeed

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if i get them accidentaly i take them

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but i dont search for them

frigid wedge
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lmfao

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maybe next league i try lab runner

split maple
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like if 8 fonts cannot help me, 9th also wont

frigid wedge
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i should leaguestart ms pathfinder anyways

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instead of going for my stupid meme builds

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such as

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ignite shield charge

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where i did not look at high end scaling

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or

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explosive trap of shrapnel, where im too slow in acts to rush shaper

jagged raven
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anyone else feel like getting addicted to gambling doing the rota awaken harvest strat?

frigid wedge
split maple
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okay we can tank uber izaro, was a tad worried bout that

frigid wedge
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or have we

frigid wedge
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or has pb officially started

split maple
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on cws

jagged raven
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:)

split maple
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kboc has ghost reaver, cba

frigid wedge
split maple
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maybe once pbod is done 😛

frigid wedge
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only rf i will ever play w rf 6 linked is the str stacking scion i think

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and thats just bc even low dps things die bc they can leave the screenwide rf

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buy cws is too afk and rf is so slow it may as well be afk

jagged raven
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lol

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im too bored to farm

frigid wedge
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my issue with toxic rain is its one of those skills where the aoe breakpoint is at such a low number it may as well just lose dps for getting aoe

split maple
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okay first 4 fonts carrion of hordes, stone of hordes and stone of safeguarding obtained

frigid wedge
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nice

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all needed golems then

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iirc stone golem of hoards is tankier but carrions have non negligible dps

split maple
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yeah just need enough pbods to dc now

jagged raven
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toxic rain pathfinder? i played that build as my first ever character
it was so weak died to everything in endgame

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probably didnt make it right

frigid wedge
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build kinda cap out at 17m dps before u start losing utility

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but i havent done much of the content it runs

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and all 3 are p much always good currency

tepid dagger
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What are yalls sleep schedules

frigid wedge
tepid dagger
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Damn

frigid wedge
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bc its a holiday

tepid dagger
frigid wedge
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normally ur looking at 7h

tepid dagger
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My schedule is ass

jagged raven
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i hate heist

frigid wedge
tepid dagger
frigid wedge
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u sick?

tepid dagger
frigid wedge
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u just...

tepid dagger
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No school is all

frigid wedge
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got to 5pm and decided it was sleepy time

tepid dagger
frigid wedge
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lmao

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i gotta go from waking up at 11am back to 6am

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by tuesday

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maybe monday