1┃general

[normal hedge]

i got 11 200% in 3.26, one of them was a mageblood but it was like 90d already lol, and when i 5:1 them i got nothing

[pseudo axle]

cluster jewel which is a giga brain idea

[silent leaf]

This @steel light

[split maple]

it aint gonna be 3synth for sure tho

we wussies fracing 12ps

[pseudo axle]

Man I remember the days when we had % aura effect on cluster jewels lmfao

that was a FUN league

[silent leaf]

Good ol days

[pseudo axle]

so broken

[silent leaf]

Aura stacker LS

[split pagoda]

rolling 12ps xdd

[stable hawk]

shits depressing

[pseudo axle]

I remember doing carrion golem

you just run around map and they kill everything

oh that reminds me I should grind out like 100 divs and build a voidforge chains build or something

every league I gotta try and make a more giga broken animated weapon build

as chris wilson intended

[normal hedge]

found it, and got nothing this league after 1000+ maps

[silent leaf]

That looks free

[normal hedge]

any map is free for glad cws

dont even need to read

[split maple]

it aint free its stone circles

[silent leaf]

Also y'all think Bloodnotch gets nuked?

Lmao

[split maple]

thats real effort

[silent leaf]

Just inch your way

W Fblink

[split maple]

literaly unrunable

[pure loom]

Hello everyone, there is any person, expert from aurabots? Can some one confirm this is the breakpoints of aura effect ?

100, 120, 125, 134, 140, 150, 160, 167, 175, 180, 200 ?

It means lets say if i have 111% inc hatred effect aura, then 111% will do the same as 113% ? on 120% the dmg will increase or im thinking incorrectly?

[steel light]

🪨 🔵 = 🤢

[normal hedge]

🤔

[split maple]

That sounds like poe2 for some reason

[pseudo axle]

Hmm. I wonder if there are any fringe farming interactions that haven't been cottoned on yet.

[normal hedge]

they dont have hatred in poe2

i think

[split maple]

Oh poor fucks

Forgot they don't have auras

[pseudo axle]

yeah they dont get to have fun in poe 2

[normal hedge]

if i could i would choose to not have hatred in poe1 aswell

lol

[silent leaf]

Tf is that emote

[pseudo axle]

actually thats a lie poe 2 is fun

[silent leaf]

Kidney stones = sick?

[thick goblet]

wouldn't it also need to account for aura level

[pseudo axle]

and yeah hatred has always been a dumb aura

but it makes cold-convert minions work

so dont take it from me plz

[steel light]

back home, 32 free points to go along with crop rotation

[split pagoda]

i think I may have played more 0.4 than 3.27 xdd

actually idk maybe not

3.27 wasnt the greatest of leagues tho imo

[split maple]

What i am rly missing this leg is gauntlet

[icy swan]

hmm idk if fross is better than evi
feels to slow dot expiring maybe need to speed up it

[split maple]

And loot

[icy swan]

at lest in this simulcurum map

[normal hedge]

berth u're doing this question since week 1

wth

[split pagoda]

i play poe2 for 3 weeks, come back and still same comparison

fross and evi both great

[thick goblet]

at least they're consistent

[normal hedge]

lmao

[pure loom]

i really dont know

[brazen vector]

If only berth finally went coc fross

[split maple]

eh shite i am even worse

sorry yall

[normal hedge]

pbod jiquanis login

[brazen vector]

Heist

[split maple]

whos gonna do bannerman and banners

[pseudo axle]

are you killing map bosses?

if so then idk, do a maven setup?

I'd minimize the amount of stops you have to make in a map

alternatively, memory strands/memory maps

tier 16.5s are good

[pure loom]

about hatred -

Is that true? over 100% phys dmg as cold = uselles in aura effect?

[pseudo axle]

yes

wait no

which stat are you referring to

Physical damage converted to cold is useless over 100%

but extra physical as cold damage is uncapped and scales infinitely

@pure loom does that answer your question

[split maple]

hatred is "You and nearby allies gain (30-39)% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage"

so shouldnt be caped

[pseudo axle]

yeah no that works with extra effectiveness

thats how aurastacking works

unless they capped extra aura effect arbitrarily?

[pure loom]

hatred gem

and lvl 24 hatred gem, have any breakpoints?

asking because not sure if take corrupted mageblood with hatred or grace

[split maple]

well when in doubt get mageblood with both

[silent leaf]

When have we stopped using Megablood instead

Megablood Pog cult

[pure loom]

i need attributes on aurabot

so attributes+grace or hatred

so hatred scalling infinite?

more effect=better=more dmg yes?

[split maple]

i mean just do the math

40% * your aura effect with and without belt

truncate decimals

[pure loom]

i prefer answer from expeirenced player

[pulsar dune]

436% inc aura effect is wild

[pseudo axle]

what are you, playing on standard?

I mean the breakpoint quite literally kinda depends on what exactly the starting conditions of the equation are

so its hard to do the math for you

nor do I have the time to do that, but essentially, yes, bigger number = better

if you have a some break points where the efficiency doesn't matter on hatred, it might matter on other auras you're running

[pulsar dune]

I don't think there are relevant breakpoints for hatred at this magnitude

[split maple]

why dont you like import your pob with each mageblood corrupt into party tab in pob of your carry

and compare numbers

[pulsar dune]

+-1% won't matter

[pseudo axle]

at some point you just go 'good enough' and accept rounding errors

[scenic delta]

Anyone got any fun ideas if we get phrecis ascendencies? Lots of uniques didn't exist back then and 16.5s didn't either

[pseudo axle]

if your build tolerances are that tight then you either need to get better at the math or find someone who can dedicatedly build doctor

[split maple]

oooh mfa whisperer got some new toys right

[pseudo axle]

are we getting bloodline ascendencies with phrecia too

[scenic delta]

Yeah idk if we would get foulborn uniques

[split maple]

sure if you can do gauntlet simul you get bloodline 😄

[pseudo axle]

also I'm assuming the phrecia event will probabbly be void + loot spam?

[scenic delta]

Idk, phrecia was all about stacking map effect so...

They kinda removed all of that and risk scarabs

[split maple]

phrecia still had limit=5 1mod risks mmm

not as crazy as mercs

[scenic delta]

Yeah it was like 200 effect

Whispers of infinity dex stacking whisperer

[split maple]

mybe some lightning res stack for mana

[scenic delta]

They're both amulets lol

[split maple]

yeah instead of whispers

[scenic delta]

Really depends on foulborns bc we also didn't have the boss drops

[pseudo axle]

oh if foulborns aren't in that would kinda suck

unless they do something weird and wacky that isn't on anyone's radar

[split maple]

i mean if settlers town was in phrecia breach tree would have to be in phrecia2

[pseudo axle]

would it?

can we get PoE 2 abyss in PoE 1

Also we should have an option to pet the Lurking Creature in PoE 2, damnit.

[gritty epoch]

Might as well add Poe2 sanctum and ultimatum

[pseudo axle]

I want to back-port all the new mechanics to poe 1 and leave the gameplay to ruthless mode where it belongs

[gritty epoch]

Nope

[polar jacinth]

Abyss poe 2 feels better than poe 1

[pseudo axle]

this is what I mean

I like how they tied unveiling to abyss, it gives it such a unique purpose

[polar jacinth]

Ritual no opinion

[gritty epoch]

Back port will inevitably add Poe2-ness

[split maple]

we already had good abyss

[pseudo axle]

I'd rather see them make allflames more of betrayal's thing to bring allflame prices down, put unveiling with abyss

[split maple]

like pretty recently

[polar jacinth]

Dilerium the map os big you have good space to play around compared to poe 1
I prefer poe2 simulacrum over poe 1

[split maple]

maybe 2 months ago or so

[gritty epoch]

Disagree

[polar jacinth]

Sanctum and sekhemas
Are both fine

[pseudo axle]

I would have played in prior leagues but my computer back then was terrible

I got myself a new one for christmas and now I'm playing at good FPS

[polar jacinth]

Most i think would prefer for those content to be seperate from trials

[gritty epoch]

How much does your ram cost

[pseudo axle]

I hate lab so please replace lab with sekhema tbh

[pseudo axle]

I bought it right before the ram explosion

[polar jacinth]

I love labs
Zoooom zooom 😂

[pseudo axle]

labs are evil and I've hated them since 2.7

[polar jacinth]

I do enjoy them tbh

[pseudo axle]

you youngsters don't understand how bad they were back then

[polar jacinth]

Ultimatum is one of the mechanics i hate in poe 1

[split maple]

"Due to how unpopular sanctum became after loot readjustment we decided to replace lab with it. This is a buff"

[pseudo axle]

back in my day, when chris wilson still had hair, we farmed exalted orbs

[polar jacinth]

I prefer poe 2

[gritty epoch]

After poe2 I appreciate lab more and more

[pseudo axle]

and we liked it

[polar jacinth]

But i didnt play much of them tbf

[silent leaf]

[split maple]

isnt ultimatum area in poo2 like 5km long

[polar jacinth]

Ya but its fun

[pseudo axle]

(this was before exalted orbs and divine orbs were swapped)

god I -hate- poe 2 ultimatum with a passion

[polar jacinth]

But both the follow the statue one

[pseudo axle]

well, in 0.1 it was ass, didn't even try it in 0.4 yet

[gritty epoch]

5km and its an escort mission

[polar jacinth]

I wonder if heist and beyond will be added

[pseudo axle]

ESCORT MISSIONS ARE THE DEVIL

[split maple]

yeah fuck that shit

[polar jacinth]

Delve not sure how in poe 2

[split maple]

i like starting round and going for a drink ty very much

[polar jacinth]

Its my fav content from poe1

[pseudo axle]

oh word, Poe 2 delve would probably be lit

no pun intended

[gritty epoch]

What about 5 seconds animation to pick up a stone

[pseudo axle]

...wait, that's basically what their end game is right now!

that's literally what their fake atlas kinda is!

[polar jacinth]

Going with my hated buid next league
Rf sion
Delving

[pseudo axle]

its just reskinned delve

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315690112234815588/1315762608590028811/2024-12-08_14-36-53_Trim.mp4?ex=69596e6b&is=69581ceb&hm=b16f394ee09ee1b5532c46ea95017ecd491fc2d707bc73bfed5473b01e50b418& day1 of poe2 experience

[pseudo axle]

but even crappier

[gritty epoch]

I rather delve tbh

[polar jacinth]

Delve and heist are just pure awsome man

[pseudo axle]

I dont like the poe 2 endgame. It was cool for like a week. But the atlas is PAIN to navigate

[split maple]

heist yeah, delve idk man

[polar jacinth]

What endgame

[split maple]

i miss azuirte in map

[polar jacinth]

Ya i feel you

Was good extra currency

[pseudo axle]

thats the one thing I hate about some of these league mechanics every league, just leveling them up is zz

[polar jacinth]

I just want guild content in poe 2 speaific for guilds

But that will never happen

[silent leaf]

lmao, alienate the playerbase even more

i like it

make the game worse

[polar jacinth]

Why woild it make the game worse

[silent leaf]

i hope it dies by this year

[gritty epoch]

Let Poe2 bomb and we get poe3

[silent leaf]

fr

[polar jacinth]

If they keep making poe 2 better
Its gona be good
But might take years for that to happen

[brazen vector]

Poo3 will be worse even more

[split maple]

We already have poe3 tho

[polar jacinth]

I have not even came across one citadel

[gritty epoch]

They ain't fixing that shit imo

[brazen vector]

You got to change the mindset of the lead devs for poo3 to be good

[polar jacinth]

And what else of an end game is there in poe 2

[silent leaf]

how to make poe2 endgame playable:

solution GGG came up with:
PoE1's scarab system

gee who wouldve thought what aint broken dont fix it

[split maple]

They Just Got sextants

Give them time

[polar jacinth]

Ya i prefer scarabs over tablets

[brazen vector]

They still didnt make the map slot a 1x1 slot

[gritty epoch]

Basic Poe2 in a nutshell

[silent leaf]

melee was dogshit state when poe2 released

lets make poe2

melee:
FIVE. SECOND. SUNDER.

[gritty epoch]

U mean mace

[silent leaf]

is there anything else

[gritty epoch]

Quarterstaff

[silent leaf]

axe and sword is nowhere no?

oh

right that

[split maple]

that monk attristacker thingie was fun

[gritty epoch]

0.2second attack time Vs 5 seconds attack time

They do same damage per hit

[icy swan]

send me 10 mirrors

[gritty epoch]

Mace: 1aps base
Attack speed mod: weighted
Skills: 0.4 speed

GGG: let's add +1 seconds total attack time and hidden totem mod so that even if u get 1000% as it's still capped

[silent leaf]

ye dunno what they were smoking

i really did expect poe2 to have very reactive and fluid combat

like idk, warframe but arpg and no flying around

instead what i got was i cant fucking react to shit

[gritty epoch]

Auto attack is viable!!
Says deadeyes spamming rods and never ever used autoattack

[silent leaf]

poe1 you can at least react with a leapslam or attack

[silent leaf]

also anyone else think deadeye is the Main Character Syndrome people archetype?

[gritty epoch]

Jonathan obviously

[silent leaf]

or the ones that pampered / spoiled archetype

or whining about everything while having,

everything

people like fubgun and his goons saying buff bows

while having nimis and +3 proj bullshit

[gritty epoch]

Some ppl actually discovered melee is bad since they tried bear this league, but mace warrior is like 5x worse than bear imo

[normal hedge]

the best bow skill dont even use nimis

[split maple]

i mean bows are kinda in sad shape rn

[silent leaf]

so warrior is

worst now?

[normal hedge]

And the ones that use nimis, +proj dont means more dmg

[silent leaf]

eh kinda ig

[gritty epoch]

They buffed sunder attack speed for 0.35 to 0.4 that should help massively

[silent leaf]

ok so you are still forced to use manual attack

nice going ggg

[gritty epoch]

Two leagues ago they added some attack speed to sunder or something but added 0.5 total attack time

I have given up atp

[silent leaf]

ggg's signature

"lets buff something, but remove one of the organs"

[brazen vector]

Reap!

[gritty epoch]

How do u do prince without autoattack

[silent leaf]

reap is in poe2?

wtf is prince

[gritty epoch]

Like your fastest slam with attack speed investment is like 2seconds

[silent leaf]

i havent touched the game or consume content since 0.1 lmao

[gritty epoch]

Prince can kill u on 1 second

[normal hedge]

reap is a staff skill implicit

[brazen vector]

Yes

UNLIKE EXSANGUINATE

[split pagoda]

shield wall is goated

[gritty epoch]

I'm a 2h souls guy so

[silent leaf]

strength goes big number

ooga booga attack once

[split pagoda]

shield wall warrior is basically the slam build of poe2

super strong early, scales extremely fast

but caps out eventually compared to high investment builds

[normal hedge]

its so braindead you can facetank all bosses

during campaign

[gritty epoch]

Look, I dropped like 3 phy runes by then and two of them I used on act 1 mace. Spent my 2 regals hitting some dog shit.

[silent leaf]

INVOLUNTARY RUTHLESS

[gritty epoch]

Mistake to trust Jonathans words

[split pagoda]

yeah idk about maces

[gritty epoch]

you should spend your exalts and regals to craft in campaign

[silent leaf]

thank god

we still have mark in poe1

[proud talon]

So hey, I'm not sure I'm gonna be playing poe 1 for a while but I don't want to lose my settings. If I just delete the content.ggpk file next time I run the launcher it'll install it again right?

[silent leaf]

we have no idea what files does in poe1

besides filter files

[brazen vector]

did they plan on removing marks or what do I miss

[silent leaf]

the assassin ascendacy lvl 30 assassin mark robberts

[brazen vector]

oooh

my humble level 31 reap @silent leaf

[silent leaf]

yknow what would make poe1 hype again

battle royale poe

[signal hawk]

I'd love to play a endless something something

[hybrid harness]

any endless farm would be abused

[gritty epoch]

C:\Users\YOURNAME\Documents\My Games\Path of Exile

[pseudo axle]

a lot of "endless" events go to the void after they're done

[hybrid harness]

oh ur talking about events

[pseudo axle]

I don't think I've ever done endless delve before so that'd be cool

[hybrid harness]

thought he wanted a new mechanic

[pseudo axle]

just give me the ability to mod Path of Exile in 20 years and I'll be happy

[hybrid harness]

yea I'd love an event while waiting for 3.28

[split maple]

gauntlet would be nice

[pseudo axle]

I can finally undo the headhunter nerf xd

I hope they don't do a week of races or something like that

[hybrid harness]

wouldnt mind another phrecia/idol one

[pseudo axle]

that'd be kinda lame

[silent leaf]

or, banned

empyrian

[hybrid harness]

yea thats the first thing that popped into my mind

[pseudo axle]

has anyone here done solo allflame farming before btw?

[hybrid harness]

when he said endless

[pseudo axle]

ethereal allflame stuff that is

I feel like I've hit a point where I break even on the maps but I don't feel like I've seen profit yet, and I'm wondering where the difference is coming from

unless I'm just maybe not seeing something

unless it just varies wildly with some maps bringing in 20div of profit and others being a lot less idk

haven't done a ton of them yet since they're obviously fairly expensive maps to run

[split pagoda]

no gauntlet this league sadly

hopefully for 3.28

seems like ziz is hosting them every other league or so now

[silent leaf]

isnt it all league?

i remember 3.26 had a gauntlet no?

[split maple]

it would be interesting with ee t0

[silent leaf]

oh nvm 3.24

[split maple]

& if anyone would manage to get accustacker of the ground in that timeframe

[silent leaf]

didnt get one

[split pagoda]

yeah and settlers was a year long

[silent leaf]

TRICKSTER BANNED?

OH NO ANYWAY

antiquarian

[split pagoda]

turns out u can slap EE on alot of things and do fine

altho ngl that shit was hard carried by merc

in merc gauntlet

[split maple]

i droped ee like yday and idk if there is anything i would rly want to try with it this league

kinda nerfed too much

[split pagoda]

yeah evis is good but like the traditional strike builds are so zdps its sad

idk if an ee build would even be the gauntlet winner if there was one this league, even looking aside from it being t0

[small tapir]

anyone know of a private league me and my friend can do a duoselfound or trade?

[split maple]

which one would you bet on

accustack feels just a tad to finnicy to pull off in a week

[split pagoda]

yeah it would actually be super interesting to have gauntlet this league

[split maple]

life builds got a few new toys too

[split pagoda]

i know soul would do well with a bleed boneshatter build again

but I cant see him getting close to a full clear still

need that blue life lol

[split maple]

i realized yday after a month of ci that molten xophgraft dont work on ci

lil defensive niceties like that

[split pagoda]

im pretty sure gauntlet this league would be a 10day event even for ben

not 3-4day clear like previous ones

like ig u just start slams, farm for 8 days and reroll into w/e es build ur able to assemble in that time

[kindred silo]

i would be extremely suprised if it took less than 4 days

more than

gearing is so much easier with tree

[split pagoda]

id be shocked if it was sub4 days lol

no u had recombs before anyways

[kindred silo]

and u just roll some life based build with deli node

[split maple]

tree wont birth 12p int clusters

hmm deli slammer would be an idea

ben pobed that

[kindred silo]

idk about slammer

[split pagoda]

i played too much poe2 actually forgot about the new ascendancies lol

[kindred silo]

can u block cap with it

i guess maybe berserker can go w/o it

[pseudo axle]

the bloodline ascendencies are so cool

[split pagoda]

yeah deli life build is possible but I dont think its full clearing

[pseudo axle]

you know what would be cool? fully itemized ascendencies

or itemized skill trees

[kindred silo]

also foulborn items r kinda bonkers

[pseudo axle]

I need to farm for a foulborn headhunter, I think it might be better for my slammer than regular headhunter, specifically vs bosses

[kindred silo]

like roll life stack ignite build

idk how rare rathpith is

[split maple]

t1 iirc?

oh no its t2

thats treeable allright

[split pagoda]

yeah itd be most interesting gauntlet in awhile thats for sure

[loud geyser]

Do we have foulborn orb of chance

So we can chance our own uniques into fb

Working on already set uniques or white bases

Chance to destroy or create foulb

[kindred silo]

u can only get foulborn on breach chests and tree

[loud geyser]

Yeah

Rip then

Would be cool to have a slam method

[split maple]

we doing the game now

from that bloody unique belt card

[hybrid harness]

better late than never

[split pagoda]

did u get that just now

[split maple]

yea

[split pagoda]

holy

[pseudo axle]

I forget what my best div card pull ever was

it might have been a lock?

[split pagoda]

from unique belt div card is crazy

[split maple]

4th t0 this leg, i prolly should stop complaining about lack of juice

[split pagoda]

think I had 2 t0s in the time I played this league, both straight to the duster lol

from natural drop that is

[lean urchin]

ive had a t1, arkalis fang

[split maple]

mine was hh from tree, squire gamba from half a stack of cards in ritual, ee from dunes boss lol and now this

[lean urchin]

where yall getting loot from wtf

[normal hedge]

nice pull

[lean urchin]

the tree 🛌

[hybrid harness]

got HH from gwennen and MB from ancient orb this league. yet to get either as a natty drop though

[normal hedge]

at least spiders are actually fun with the new 3.26 helm

well, not for mapping

[ancient sorrel]

What is the real hidden power of sacrifice support?
Each time i try to build around, with rathpith, disso and blightwell, PB makes it irrelevant, like 15% dmg support on 4k unreserved life

[opal ingot]

holy moly

are upping your rates

youre getting too much good stuff...

[sleek barn]

thats a good pull

gz

you should give me some of your luck esm

[thick goblet]

holy first a mirror now an mb, pog

[split maple]

I cannot fucking believe it still

[split pagoda]

what build are u now

[split maple]

Kboc hiero and cws chief

Prolly gonna slap it on cws to stop worrying about drought for now then start thinking bout that lightning res stack thing

[split pagoda]

ya maybe gonna want another build to get full value out of it, I assume u use hh on kboc

[split maple]

Yea

Ig i can remove traitor from my accustack swap pob

[split pagoda]

I do love traitor but mb good

[pseudo axle]

remember sextants

[spice pecan]

[pseudo axle]

boy back in the day they sure did have janky ways of juicing maps

[lean urchin]

whats the ... positive part of this?

[split maple]

Can drop temple moded stuff

But it aint all that good

[spice pecan]

what the hell is that enchant

i've never seen that

[split maple]

Kirac mission

[spice pecan]

thats brazy

[split maple]

It's like you click Alva and incursion mobs start appearing next to you

Like breach if it was good

But even less loot

[spice pecan]

the second line is something I would have expected to read on the krangled dyadic resonator

lmao

[pseudo axle]

man remember breach

I remember breach

then they deleted it

[spice pecan]

when are we getting a purple league mechanic

[pseudo axle]

I can't even listen to Purple Rain now because of the PTSD this league has given me

[lean urchin]

prophecy was hecking purple

[spice pecan]

i want to play shrine stacking EK ignite with like 25 breaches in the map again

[split maple]

We living in antipurple times

First hexblast dedged

Now breach

[pseudo axle]

Kramer.gif "thats true"

[spice pecan]

fuck you're right, hexblast my beloved

[split maple]

Tomorrow they gonna dedge idk whats left of purple stuff

[pulsar dune]

What would you even play for purple, yeah

[spice pecan]

darkshard totem mtx

its kind of purple

other than that you have to play the best skill in the game, voltaxic burst

which unironically is quite good on pizza sticks or conner's incinerate build

[pseudo axle]

does each instance of voltaxic burst intensification stack seperately, if they're on different skills?

like if I had an auto-cast setup on one and a big DPS alternate

[spice pecan]

it only cares about how many total casts are queued iirc

[pulsar dune]

Yea this works

[pseudo axle]

I remember long ago theorising some kind of Maloney's Mechanism shenanigan

[spice pecan]

i think it all goes into one buff

[pseudo axle]

with voltaxic arc

[pulsar dune]

People do brand recaller to stack and selfcast for damage

[spice pecan]

yeah, surgeon general had a video about it recently

[pseudo axle]

not voltaxic arc, uh

the name of the bow

[spice pecan]

voltaxic rift

[pseudo axle]

that started the chaos lightning convert

[pulsar dune]

Rift

[pseudo axle]

that thing

yes

I'm sure we have FAR superior conversion technology now

[pulsar dune]

Honestly that's kinda the most annoying bit of voltaxic burst, but IG Lycia bloodline is available now

[spice pecan]

lycia bloodline can make burst straight do 100% chaos

[pulsar dune]

Or you FF assassin's poison node

[spice pecan]

poison voltaxic burst sounds so unbelievably cursed lmao

[pulsar dune]

Or was it hit only, idr

Wait to stack up, then wait for poison

There are also the new foulborn jewels

Which probably do this

[pseudo axle]

we also have foulborn blue nightmare

and the maligaro belt if we're truly desperate

you know what would be a fun league?

or not even a league but like a uh, void event?

let us recombine or craft unique items or something

or add unique mods to the rare item affix pool

for a void league

[pulsar dune]

So many cool unique weapons may finally end up relevant

[pseudo axle]

it would be fairly easy to do, I think?

you wouldn't need to necessarily develop new assets, just shuffle around database entries

(highly simplifying the work flow that would go into this)

[silent leaf]

That's harder than you think since

PoE1 is developed by 2 interns rn

• 1 cs support

[pseudo axle]

yeah but I mean they put together keepers and honestly like...you could tell a vision was there it just did not bake fully

[silent leaf]

• 1 trade website maintenance guy

[pseudo axle]

whereas vaal temple was heavily overcooked

I think vaal temple in poe 2 was way too complicated for what it needed to be

[lean urchin]

poe 2 is for thinkers, not me

[pseudo axle]

is there any combination of mods on the vorana boots that are useful

theory crafting a build

basically the idea is "oops all abyssal sockets"

[spice pecan]

replica shroud of the lightless

[pseudo axle]

yeah

is "gain extra as" converted?

it should be right

I always forget how that works

[spice pecan]

i think extra as is added after conversion?

i actually don't know

[pseudo axle]

"Gain as Extra is calculated on the source damage before it gets converted away by Converted to, and is thus not affected by it."

[spice pecan]

rip

[pseudo axle]

right okay

no its still like, good, its just that if I were to convert I'd need to make sure all the 'gain as extra' and the intended damage type are aligned

so if everything is getting converted to say, cold, I'd want 'extra phys as cold'

so I can just scale cold with % and more modifiers

[pulsar dune]

I'd probably play phys convert builds tri-ele with trinity support ngl

[spice pecan]

why tri-ele when you can get 100% from tree + gloves?

[pseudo axle]

this is a minion build

[pulsar dune]

For minions it's different, yeah

[pseudo axle]

abyss jewel stacking with the aul ascendency is kinda the idea

with vorana boots

[pulsar dune]

Tho do you even care about minion damage types that much? Outside of lightning+doryani or smth.

[pseudo axle]

if I'm going animate weapon, absolutely

so I'm kinda feeling out the aul thing but I might just pivot to chains of command if I can't find something that cracks the build wide open

oh, hm, aul might truly suck for minions, actually

I was thinking it might be good for defenses and aura effectiveness but ehhh

I'd have to get like 3 pacifism which is a useless waste of a jewel slot.

well, maybe it wouldn't be, idk.

[spice pecan]

pacifism? are we using ahn's contempt or something

[pseudo axle]

no, the idea is to get more hatred effectiveness for cold conversion

this build is stacking a ton of flat phys abyssal jewels for minions, ideally

[pulsar dune]

You plan to animate a phys weapon?

[pseudo axle]

convert to cold

[spice pecan]

oh, right

[pulsar dune]

Oh I see

[spice pecan]

forgot about that part of aul

[pseudo axle]

voidforge is the classic route but for THIS build I might just do like, regular animate weapon

or ranged animate weapon idk

[spice pecan]

would ranged animate weapon with bladefall of tartar work

[pseudo axle]

alternatively I could make it a uhhh

TRULY unhinged build

wormblaster dancing duo

y'all don't understand I have YEARS of extremely deep minion lore buried in my brain

I figured out brittle crit tech before ggg took it away from us

necromatic aegis + old brittle shield from heist

was fun

[spice pecan]

that's pretty funny

[pseudo axle]

that shield gave you like +15% flat crit chance, combined with old minion power charges and you had crit capped

[silent leaf]

GGG I pray next league has crafting league mechanic like tree

[pseudo axle]

from one block

vs a boss or whatever

that and fortress covenant was real

...I wonder if its possible to do this as a TRULY gem-less build, and just get hatred from some non-gem source, lol

[silent leaf]

Relic of the pact

P sure it is

[dry tree]

Relic uses gems

Not very many, but you do use some

[pseudo axle]

hmm...shame that lightpoacher sucks

I mean, we could do wraithlord but that feels boring?

plus spectres are so insanely finnicky

[lean urchin]

pokedex

[pseudo axle]

hale negator and defiance of destiny

its like peanut butter and jelly

defiance stops the shotgunning and hale stops the hueg nonsense

well, doesn't stop TRUE one-shots but not much stops those anyway

and honestly that just means I need to dodge more

[pulsar dune]

Wait does hale negator proc n times for n charges lost at once?

[pseudo axle]

so if I have 10 hale negator charges, it gives me back, say, 30% life and es if I take a savage hit?

with a well rolled one that is

and if I take a hale negator-level hit again 5 seconds after, I'd have 5 charges, so 15% life and ES

its really good with hybrid builds

I honestly think hale negator is slept on

just not many builds that stack abyss jewels

usually only good with conversion/extra-as builds

question: how does Toad's Price work?

it says utility flasks are disabled, I'm assuming that means no mageblood...but does that also mean no mother's embrace?

[pulsar dune]

I'd assume yes, but I didn't test

[pseudo axle]

thats fair

[dry tree]

Considering that mother's embrace requires the minion to "use" the flask I'd agree it wouldn't work

[pseudo axle]

well, wasn't sure how the game actually worked with it

I guess I could try it at some point but that'd be a tiny bit of a pain

man if only we could mix bloodline ascendencies

I figured out a VERY sick combination if only I could get it to work

...how big is 6 meters in poe? that doesn't seem like a very wide radius

[lean urchin]

pobbit

[spice pecan]

i finished all three pokedexes in scarlet/violet before the end of the year

[thick goblet]

like 60% of screen

[pulsar dune]

6 meters is a bit, you can click frost blades of katabasis at 20qual, that's about their range

[pseudo axle]

oh, ohohohohoh, ohohohohohoho

nevermind, I figured it out

the minion build

the PERFECT ascendency node

we're COOKING chat

[spice pecan]

chat, LETHIMCOOK

if this isn't necromancer or guardian, i am very intrigued

actually even guardian would be cool

[pseudo axle]

sadly I don't think this is going to work quite the way I want it to

I'm getting closer though I think

trying to figure out umbral army shenanigans

...wait, hold on...bitterbind point with this build is almost, like...capped spell crit with 10 spectres

[spice pecan]

spectre builds

extreme stress and paranoia

[pseudo axle]

no this would be a raise spectre of transience build

the idea is we'd be doing all the fighting and the spectres are just kind of there for support and who cares if they die we resummon them

[spice pecan]

ooooh

[pseudo axle]

can you not use soul's wick and raise spectre of transience together?

[spice pecan]

damn, if it had a cooldown you could slap it on automation

souls wick is drop disabled

so we're going into legacy gear territory

[pseudo axle]

oh they removed it rip

[spice pecan]

yeah

[pseudo axle]

thats so annoying

actually its fine I guess

I could use just regular spectres to buff me into the stratosphere

[spice pecan]

but then regular spectres

[pseudo axle]

I mean I can get like 9 buff spectres with wraithlord

thats not nothing

[spice pecan]

i played minions for the first time in 10 years in ssf this league, haven't had an issue with my carnage chieftain at least

but i'm scared to death of like misclicking my gloves lmao

[pseudo axle]

lol

[spice pecan]

can you get power charges onto them or something

or have them share their power charges with you

and then do some power charge stacker stuff, to make up for the crit you lose without soul's wick

"Any variants of Soul's Wick are legacy items as it is removed from the corruption transformation (e.g. use vaal orb on the jewel) drop pool in version 3.23.0. However, only jewel that dropped from the monster/divination card, etc. before version 3.20.0, are non-corrupted. "

oh that's hilarious; non-corrupted soul's wick are like super legacy

[pseudo axle]

so the idea is go umbral army, wraithlord

alternatively there's a route where we go umbral army/hale negator

even umbral army lightpoacher

which would be kinda sick?

[spice pecan]

holy are we doing spirit charges

alkLFG

[pseudo axle]

...ooooohhhhh I think I figured out the tech

lightpoacher, block spirit burst, stack flat phys gems, get spectres for umbral army to boost global defenses and act as aura bots

I never lose spirit charges this way

[spice pecan]

90% increased global defenses with 9 spectres seems sick

that's like, what, 30k ish ES territory

[pseudo axle]

realistically speaking it'd be closer to like, idk

less

a lot less

if I'm not going wraithlord

the cool things is, if I'm not going aul, I can have

reasonable gems

[spice pecan]

yeah, and you can be one of the 3 people on planet earth who take the catarina bloodline

[pseudo axle]

precisely

like a real chad

but the other cool thing too is, I can go uh

the corpsewalk boots

with necromancer

[spice pecan]

bubonic trail, or something?

[pseudo axle]

necromancer corpse consumption nodes

[spice pecan]

do the corpse consuming boots trigger those nodes?

i mean they should

[pseudo axle]

they do

you automate desecrate somehow or any corpse making skill and go to town

[spice pecan]

incursion weapon is like the only way to automate desecrate right

[pseudo axle]

not necessarily?

[spice pecan]

i mean outside of like cwdt shit

[pseudo axle]

so either we get like, capped crit with bitterbind point + wraithlord

and that'd give us about 80% defenses

[spice pecan]

there's that one wheel on the ouside of templar area that has inc effect of arcane surge

i assume that inc effect doesn't apply to the buff that spectres get?

[pseudo axle]

or we do just, pure 4 spectres, which is 40% defenses, and go the lightpoacher route

it depends on if an extra 4 defensive spectres is worth giving up all that phys-as-elemental damage

wait, wait, IS THIS A DOOMFLETCH BUILD?

oh I think I just reinvented doomfletch

[spice pecan]

it's weapon phys tho

[pseudo axle]

oh did they kill it stacking with abyss jewels

[spice pecan]

oh wait no, wiki says you can scale phys damage

[pseudo axle]

yeah thats what I thought

[spice pecan]

"Scaling added flat Physical Damage is the most efficient way to increase damage with this weapon due to its quadrupled return on investment"

[pseudo axle]

the alternative is voidforge

[spice pecan]

can't use bitterbind with either of those tho

[pseudo axle]

right

hmm

I need a good one handed weapon if I want bitterbind, not that bitterbind is necessary if we go down this road

[gilded hull]

Looking at PoE2 chat like

[pseudo axle]

lets see what the wand department has in store

[spice pecan]

the best 1h weapon i assume would be like a convoking wand with fractured aggressive/minion damage and maybe temple mod if you want an easy way to automate desecrate

[ebon tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-nodding-ishowspeed-nodding-my-mom-kinda-homeless-gif-16401546600461596658

[spice pecan]

the fuck did i just see lmao

[pseudo axle]

is there a way to convert spell crit to attack crit?

[ebon tendon]

Next poe1 league is gonna b fyre guys

[pseudo axle]

if so I might have stumbled upon something kinda wild

[gilded hull]

Unemployed people losing their fucking mind

[pseudo axle]

honestly GGG kinda shot themselves in the foot

people are overreacting but

this was very predictable

[spice pecan]

not that im aware of

[pseudo axle]

hrm

I mean I kind of have narrowed down what I want to do, right, I just need to figure out what the last steps are gonna be.

honestly the real answer might just be "lol voidforge idiot" but melee? ugh

[half junco]

Just sending more of the player base to arc raiders

[silent leaf]

Wtf happen lmao

[pseudo axle]

is arc raiders that good?

[scenic delta]

bro why are they hotfixing poe2 still... 88% of the playerbase is gone...

[half junco]

Yeah ten times better than Poe as a game and it’s brand new

[silent leaf]

Extraction shooter slop

Like most companies who try to keep spamming extraction shooters

One game per 2-3 months

[pseudo axle]

I mean I'm having fun playing keepers league still and right now I am brewing some REAL weird crap

[half junco]

Tbh Poe is arpg slop that’s slightly less slop than the rest of the slop

[spice pecan]

read the poo2 update channel, they added diminishing returns to giga juiced temples

[silent leaf]

Pog

[half junco]

Last good arpg was Diablo 2

[scenic delta]

@half junco phrecia will be the best league ever released if they allow foulborns, it's going to be the most broken shit

[spice pecan]

and everyone's melting down as if it affects them, meanwhile like no one in there probably spent the 40+ hours it takes to actually get hit by the change lmao

[heady cliff]

roughly the same thing that keepers were to merc in terms of endgame stuff

if i understand correctly

[ebon tendon]

phrecia with all the nerfed farms

wow

[half junco]

Yeah phrecia was the only decent league since sanctum

And that was a mini event

[ebon tendon]

juice them strongboxes

[silent leaf]

They won't ever bring back phrecia unless they specifically remove chaos bloodline lmao

[spice pecan]

nah mercs league was great too, tbh

played all 4 months

[half junco]

Nah mercs was ass

[silent leaf]

Settlers - mercs was ass yea

[ebon tendon]

the loot and farms were still pretty nice but the in map mechanic isnt really

like

[half junco]

ChatGPT could have figured out a better league than mercs

[silent leaf]

I fucking hated settlers

And mercs is kinda fine if not the loot nerf and buff you are supposed to get by having a merc glued to your ass

You get less loot on general without mercs

But more w mercs

And I fucking hated that I need a merc glued to me

[half junco]

Literally just slapped an npc that follows you around and holds gear

[ebon tendon]

lmao

[half junco]

Wow cool league

[ebon tendon]

yea

i just played standard

[silent leaf]

I kinda wish they just made old league mechanics back when it's just like

[scenic delta]

I like how cool leave was an auto response for bad league design when u typed scott LOL

[silent leaf]

No setup
No need 10 map shittery
No bullshit

Like mercs, but actually mapping oriented

[pseudo axle]

I...I think I figured out the tech but now I need to figure out how to automate a spell and have it cast ultra fast around me.

[silent leaf]

Instead of "hope you don't get oneshot haha" oriented

[scenic delta]

the problem with phrecia league was trading, we solved that with async

[ebon tendon]

really mostly looking for a large scarab rework

genuinely man

[silent leaf]

Fucking gauntlet mercs murdered me on act 7 with 7 endurance charges + fortify in 2 hits

[pseudo axle]

I think I've invented my magnum opus

[silent leaf]

What in the fuck

[ebon tendon]

or something similiar

[scenic delta]

no more 50 dump tabs of 'they will msg me if its worth something' bullshit and getting pretend afked because the guy found out his 2mirror idol isnt in the right dumptab

[half junco]

Just like last 3 years from ggg have been putting out slop and blaming it on they are working on two games

[flint fiber]

you have your temple ? you're fine you wanna build it? get fucked

[half junco]

Gets annoying

[silent leaf]

Just remove game 2

Lmao

Fuck

[half junco]

Like Poe 2 league is slop “well we are working on two games”

[silent leaf]

Like it's so easy to see the solution

[half junco]

Poe league is slop

“Well we are working on two games”

[silent leaf]

But they need the money from poe2 cash cow

[ebon tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ome20-gif-9226759380346778850

[scenic delta]

as soon as the main devs of poe2 and poe1 are out they will put better devs in because the game is 100% owned by tencent, which means they wont give up on a cash cow game

[heady cliff]

even with async phrecia had item management

[silent leaf]

Mountain lions when they see pumpkins

[sinful cove]

Bro I was told that if I purchase extra stash tabs and the merchant tab I would be able to use them once I switch over to PC from PS5 but I can’t seem to do it…. All accounts have been linked

[heady cliff]

and item management leagues is still unsolved in terms of "how to make them fun"

[half junco]

Apparently the d4 patch is actually the best it’s ever been

Might go just play that

[ebon tendon]

is there footage of this

[heady cliff]

they are fundamentally anti-fun

[silent leaf]

1m

[normal hedge]

poe2 just died hope they're working in 3.28 🙏

[scenic delta]

the absolute moment that china gets ahold of a game it instantly gets player feedback and just does the shit they want

[silent leaf]

https://fxtwitter.com/shitposts_mp4/status/1976565869837758673?s=46

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They love eating it apparently

[scenic delta]

look at the last ARPG that almost died

[silent leaf]

Well "eating"

Dunno if they actually digest It or no

[ebon tendon]

oh

lol

[spice pecan]

this has never been the case, playstation and pc have never been able to transfer things

because of sony

[ebon tendon]

what a cute cat i want it

[spice pecan]

you CAN migrate stuff from xbox to pc, but it's one way

[silent leaf]

https://fxtwitter.com/chuberdunkus2/status/1979932057313927266?s=46

ShunkyDunkus (@Chuberdunkus2)

Let’s eat pumpkin with mama

Quoting John Ball Zoo (@JBZOOGR)
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There's this too

[spice pecan]

so if you bought them on your playstation, they're locked there, and same with pc

[scenic delta]

you know whats funny about phrecia is that the economy will basically feel like settlers because the main abuse in phrecia is that u could scale map effect to the moon, but because they changed both insane mechanics it will feel like u have options between bossing and multiple strats working again

[spice pecan]

well, we would be able to avoid the absolute worst part of phrecia

which was trading for idols

[half junco]

Getting rid of loot is one of the most bird brained things about ggg

[scenic delta]

I think they're going to do an item squish

[spice pecan]

the funny thing is is that they already experienced the kalandra backlash

[half junco]

Like yeah we wouldn’t care about getting little loot if the little loot we got was valuable

[scenic delta]

they're probably trying to make a new algo to delete the millions of bases being dropped every map and condense it into higher tier items dropping rather thane verything being able to drop at different ilvls

[spice pecan]

my prediction is that they add another loot goblin mechanic

[scenic delta]

we dont need 150 ilvl 81 crude bows to drop

[silent leaf]

I think they are specifically targeting SSF players lmao

They KNOW that trade will bounce back and fucking stabilize in any economy

Affliction OR Kalandra

[scenic delta]

trade will never be stabilized as long as yellow juice is in the game

[sinful cove]

Smh absolutely trash with not being able to use the tabs I’ve paid for… I get not being able to transfer the items in the stash tabs and not being able to transfer characters but if I have a GGG account, that shows my purchase history I should be able to use their currency where ever… if anything the should name it POR PS5 gold or something. Let us know it’s platform bound….

[ebon tendon]

were those literally ONE enemy that dropped loot ? i didnt play then

[half junco]

I don’t know who they’re targeting but whoever they design the game for is not anyone in specific

[normal hedge]

they're targeting ssf players to make their lifes even more miserable

[scenic delta]

they have to remake harvest to stabilize the economy

[spice pecan]

this is not a GGG problem, it's a sony problem

as much as it sucks, GGG literally cannot do anything about it unless sony allows them to

[scenic delta]

@half juncoare u in gorilla rn

[spice pecan]

because of sony's terms of how transactions are handled in their store

wrong channel

[silent leaf]

It's in Sony's ToS or smth

[sinful cove]

Smh I even looked on yahoo and even the AI response said I would be able to Xfer the tabs… this is what I get for letting people tell me somthing without them ever actually doing it lol

[silent leaf]

If they don't take a bigger cut of the $$$

They won't do shit

[spice pecan]

rule #1: don't use AI if you need to learn something

[silent leaf]

AI

Explains alot

[spice pecan]

but yeah it's unfortunate, but blame sony or AI slop before GGG in this case

[sinful cove]

Had 2-3 people tell me I could transfer and yahoo…

Smh

[scenic delta]

AI is trained on humans... And humans are so good at giving bad information

[sinful cove]

Welp I guess I’m out 50$

[spice pecan]

maybe poe2 can transfer, idk

but not poe1, and it never has been able to

so whoever told you you could transfer from sony to pc in poe1 probably doesn't even own a playstation

[silent leaf]

Or, hates consoles

[spice pecan]

i'm still waiting for them to backport controller from poo2 to poe1

[silent leaf]

I fucking hope

[spice pecan]

hotswap when please

[silent leaf]

They don't flood the game w tourists by adding WASD

[spice pecan]

muh rigging doe

my glove mtx might slightly clip into my torso in a game famously known for being able to see your fucking character

lmao

[silent leaf]

Naked Scion moment

[spice pecan]

no time for tits, need herald of ice dopamine immediately

[opaque sphinx]

not sony's fault really

[silent leaf]

It is no? They wanted $$$ from what I heard

[spice pecan]

it is, given that microsoft allows it

[opaque sphinx]

they are hosting a free game and all the shit that comes with that and don;t get paid for it

like yes it's sony's "fault" but its kinda fair

[silent leaf]

Ok technically they want $$$ then ye

Lmao

Paid for my time kinda thing

[opaque sphinx]

pretty much

[spice pecan]

i generally have sympathy for console homies because they already have to fight with so much bullshit

in a game where you have to notoriously fight through bullshit already

[silent leaf]

All I have is empathy for them

Not being able to mod games

Not being able to alt tab

[spice pecan]

i mean you have been able to alt-tab since like ps3/xbox 360 days

with the home buttons

but yeah

[silent leaf]

Hell not even able to look up shit on google

While gaming

And typing shit in not even 3 seconds

[spice pecan]

okay wait hang on a sec LMAO

back in the day i literally used my nintendo ds internet browser to google shit

while gaming on PC

[silent leaf]

Ye see

[spice pecan]

because it was easier than alt-tabbing

[silent leaf]

Also this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008735493577515098/1449041351197851698/console_passwords.mp4?ex=6959ccac&is=69587b2c&hm=a09b355a4bca80820830643ef6abdcfa59b252072ae07aae3909af69430d6dd7&

[ebon tendon]

lmao

[pseudo axle]

can you scale ballista totems with abyss jewels?

[spice pecan]

uhhhh

flat damage abyss jewels i assume?

[pseudo axle]

I know, weird question

yes

[elder marlin]

Ballistas r not minions

[spice pecan]

i think the flat damage is only local? i honestly have no idea

[pseudo axle]

right I'm aware you can't use the minion damage ones for that

[spice pecan]

i'd login and test on standard to see if i proc shocks with a lightning jewel but uhh

im kinda playing hitman rn

[pseudo axle]

thats ok

the research continues

[spice pecan]

i only really have played spell totems

as much of a totem lover as i am, i don't really fuck with ballista totems

[dry tree]

If the jewel applies to your attacks or your bow it would work fine on a ballista

[elder marlin]

Why do u need to scale ballista with abyss jewel?

[spice pecan]

that's kind of what i thought but i wasn't sure

[pseudo axle]

I am creating a giga brain build

with insane interactions

[dry tree]

A jewel can't be "local" as such

[elder marlin]

What interaction?

[spice pecan]

yeah, i just thought that proxies might not interact with flat from jewels specifically, it seems a bit odd but yeah

[pseudo axle]

wait, hold on, nevermind, I think this particular part might not work

ugh, no it might

ballistas use your % inc damage right

like, inc attack damage from a buff

[elder marlin]

Yes

[icy swan]

lol literly immmortal

just dmg not good enaught

i just stand didnt need to move at all

[pseudo axle]

okay, so the reason why I need to have ballistas, is because I need to cast a spell while they're up

[dry tree]

Ballistas use your weapon and your stats

[pseudo axle]

and ballistas only work with bows, not wands, right

[spice pecan]

no they work with wands too

[pseudo axle]

stupid question probably but just wanted to double check since it can also theoretically range attack

[spice pecan]

they 100% work with wands, i played ps of archmage ballista

[pseudo axle]

oh

[dry tree]

Ballista totem support specifies bow or wand attack

[spice pecan]

actually insanely fun build, but i hate the ballista mechanics

[pseudo axle]

that is quite interesting indeed

QUITE interesting indeed

[elder marlin]

Amd wand atk skill can work with ballista

Any kinetic skill, power siphon

Thats the first things that comes to my ming

[pseudo axle]

I'll need to test out this build in practice, but in theory

in theory

[spice pecan]

somatic shell would also work

since that is also a wand attack skill

[pseudo axle]

its all coming together

[gritty epoch]

Try Uber maven brain blast

[elder marlin]

Im interested now, what mechanics do the build use?

[elder marlin]

Or memory blast

[gritty epoch]

Brain blast do more damage I think

[pseudo axle]

umbral army + zombie of falling + corpse consumption + abyss jewel stacking + ele-convert of some kind

and gain-extra-phys-as-ele

[elder marlin]

Brain blast is based on ur damage no?

[gritty epoch]

?

[pseudo axle]

umbral army gives you 15% attack damage per zombie, theoretically you can have 200 zombies falling at once

I -think- that works

combine with necromancer scaling with corpse popping, and akuna's will gloves

summon ballistas, rain zombies

if you ever had 200 zombies falling at once and a ballista fired right at that moment...

200 x 15%

with flat damage stacking from abyss jewels

oh and we're getting 5% phys-as-ele from spirit-charge blocked lightpoacher

[elder marlin]

How r u triggering 200 zombie at the same time?

[pseudo axle]

necromancer corpse cast node

the one that ramps your cast speed up by 200% if you consume enough corpses fast enough

we can also do a cdwt setup with heartbound loop maybe but that seems annoying

listen if someone found the limit it must be possible

even getting 50 or 100 zombies going at once is like, insane giga damage

[elder marlin]

I thought cdwt has a cooldown of 100ms

Like cws

[pseudo axle]

I think you can do spell cascade to summon more zombies

at once

oh its not an aoe gem

OH, ARCANIST BRAND

[spice pecan]

bingo

[pseudo axle]

of course, of course, brands, what am I, some kind of ape?

we don't need ballistas at all

[spice pecan]

it depends, it does have an internal cooldown, but you can hit specific breakpoints to make it trigger on less server ticks

so it does interact with cdr

[pseudo axle]

we just RAIN MEN on the enemy while sipping a chai latte and smoking a cigarette

okay I just found a video that CONFIRMS they all show up as zombies in the damn thing, it is possible, we've cracked the code

...actually the umbral army tech by itself alone is kinda nutty tbh

it could work with almost anything

if it works

but it should

actually yeah I think at the end of all of this I just discovered how to break umbral army, more than abyss jewel stacking nonsense tbh.

[elder marlin]

I mean u can have 140 summon phantasm at the same time for giga movement speed

[pseudo axle]

oh

....oh

how do you do that exactly

soulwrest?

[elder marlin]

Yea

[pseudo axle]

its saying you can only get like 20

is there a bug or exploit?

[elder marlin]

Dark monarch

[pseudo axle]

can't run dark monarch if I'm stacking here

plus I need a weapon that scales for damage

wait, actually...in theory that isn't even a bad idea

if I give up the abyss jewel stuff and just work on scaling umbral army then there you go

oh no we give up minions to do this

that is bad

if anything we'd want a zombie dark monarch to increase our zombie cap to 400

[icy swan]

With blocked regen ? xD

[pseudo axle]

at 400 zombies though I think my pc would start dying though

as would the server

[elder marlin]

Ok u r glad so automatically u r cheating

[pseudo axle]

honestly I think with this you can kinda just use whatever and go the most tanky possible build you can

I could theoretically like, pivot into this from anything that cares about attack damage

as long as I can automate enough zombie casts

[elder marlin]

Yea gl on that

[pseudo axle]

I could use totems to do it maybe

brands and totems

with the insane cast speed I'll have its pretty legit

[elder marlin]

Coiling whisper for soul eater

[elder marlin]

Spell totem?

[icy swan]

24 k es xD

[pseudo axle]

asenath's gentle touch + coiling whisper maybe?

[gritty epoch]

90 max res, 61% dr + 5 endurance charges

[icy swan]

So i ges my 16k not enaught xD