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solar smelt
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How many nodes on average do you need to make split personality worth investing in?

blissful zodiac
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depends on what ur pob looks like

loud geyser
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Poe3 will be a diablo4-like

umbral crag
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Hows it looking like

grand hamlet
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For item modifiers, do all pieces in the same category (i.e. Gloves) have the same pool of possible modifiers or does each type of Glove have different possible modifiers?

umbral crag
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For example a pure ES gloves cannot naturally roll armour or evasion.

Another one that is impacted would be attributes. U can check poedb.tw for more info

fickle glen
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These perks are confusing

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Does Eldritch Battery protect mana reservation as well?

grand hamlet
umbral crag
umbral crag
umbral crag
fickle glen
umbral crag
# fickle glen Sorry I reread what you typed

Ppl use EB usually do so because they used nearly 100% of their mana to reserve for auras etc. so they need some form of ways to use their skills. EB allows them to use energy shield as costs to use their skills.

fickle glen
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I am looking at these large perks and wondering if they work well in sync, Eldritch Battery + Wicked Ward + Mind Over Matter.

umbral crag
umbral crag
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Think of it this way. You have MOM usually because you have a large unreserved pool of mana that helps to soak up your damage taken. What's the point then of having EB with MOM, instead of just using the energy shield over your actual life?

fickle glen
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The thing I am confused on is if Eldritch protects mana then how does MOM work?

umbral crag
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It's not like you have limited mana to use ur skills that you need EB to help you cast it. In that case then MOM doesnt make sense does it

umbral crag
strong totem
umbral crag
fickle glen
umbral crag
strong totem
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none

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after that, I don't recommend this strat lol

umbral crag
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Nothings changed in how ES works in that regard

umbral crag
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I had 1 mirr shard and another with 5 shards.

strong totem
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last time i got 2 mirror shards. I don't think it's worth for 2 avg

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I'd rather spend my time farming good loot

umbral crag
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So i don't feel any pain

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Sitting on 10s of millions of gold anyway lol

strong totem
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that makes sense for it

rancid sluice
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eb + mom isnt that unheard of if you have es recovery like aegis

fickle glen
umbral crag
umbral crag
gritty epoch
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EB CI Pogott

umbral crag
strong totem
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actually doable now apparently

fickle glen
umbral crag
fickle glen
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It seems like a huge disadvantage lol

umbral crag
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🐦‍⬛

fickle glen
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I forgot to ask you something about Wicked Ward

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The description is clear but I want to make sure

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Does it consider energy cost for skills as damage interrupt for its recharge?

umbral crag
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Cost spending is not considered damage

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Well, in the case for EB at least

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So it doesn't interrupt es recharge in the first place

fickle glen
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So that means it will interrupt its recharge when I cast a skill

umbral crag
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So you don't need wicked ward

rancid sluice
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you wouldnt want to fight 90 percent less recharge rate anyway. not for what it offers

fickle glen
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Yeah the penalty is huge

umbral crag
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Feel free to not use wicked ward if you're taking EB only, it doesn't do anything for you

fickle glen
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I think I will combine EB and MOM with lots of energy leech

umbral crag
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Feels kinda weird still. Are you spending that much mana in one cast that you need EB?

fickle glen
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Yes, I am using spellslinger

umbral crag
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Maybe find a source of mana leech instead?

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Instead of this convoluted way of solving it

fickle glen
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Those are so far from the witch starting point

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The perks

umbral crag
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Whats the build

fickle glen
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Currently just spell slinger with elemental and minions but I plan on having full herald build and all golems

umbral crag
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Then what's the point of mom..?

fickle glen
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Heralds reserve mana

umbral crag
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Okay wait i kinda see what you're trying to achieve ish

fickle glen
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I don’t know if I will have enough for spellslinger and heralds yet, I never made it far in this game

umbral crag
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I mean, you could do that, or just stack life more and dont have to take MOM, and just use EB to use your skills

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You'd have to pob that to see which makes better sense

fickle glen
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Spellslinger is fun 😄

umbral crag
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Because if u take mom and eb, you'd have to invest into decent amount of ES and life, and need es leech to sustain

worldly wind
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eb and mom is a real head turner

umbral crag
tawdry olive
fickle glen
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Not many life perks in the witch tree area 😢

umbral crag
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Im assuming you're doing a wander build right?

fickle glen
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Yup!

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Wand and shield

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Having auto teleportation with spellslinger is super fun

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Because power siphon auto targets for me

umbral crag
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Not super familiar with wander build with witch, but surely you can just use enough -mana cost to bring your attacks mana costs down to near 0. Then you don't need to bother with this convoluted set up.

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And just have ur es protect life

fickle glen
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That is probably the best, it’s why I asked if these perks are better

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I didn’t take them yet

umbral crag
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Nah i highly doubt its worth the complicated set up

fickle glen
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I am agreeing with you

lean urchin
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time to buy boosti guess

steel light
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get an omen just in case

worldly bridge
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how do people play ultimatum fear this mechanic is scary

steel light
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only tanky specs plays it, like cast when stunned

formal ridge
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best kinetic blast build? deadeye?

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rerolling SSF

steel light
steel light
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yes

umbral crag
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Coolcool, havent met many fellow sgrean in this discord

umbral crag
limpid latch
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Any playstation standard players around?

warm musk
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Does anyone have this in standard?

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was thinking of swapping with mine as I realized the PTA would be bad for a manastacker

tepid dagger
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How much is 1d worth for you pc players

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In c

lean urchin
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153 poe.ninja says

tepid dagger
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Dang

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190 for us

grand flint
lean urchin
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its standard. its a museum of poe1's finest

grand flint
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is that only achievable on standard?

lean urchin
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you cant make that armour on league

grand flint
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ohh damn

finite quail
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That people made copies of and crafted on nonstop

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Until those monstrosities got created lmao

compact bronze
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do supporter packs change every league?

worldly wind
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the core supporter packs only change when there's a really big update, the league supporter packs change every league

compact bronze
proud gorge
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man, Beyond in your Breach maps, especially Fortress, is cursed

compact bronze
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or am i missing something

proud gorge
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just an absolute flood of breach monsters spawning beyond portals everywhere

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while you're trying to defend Ailith or whatever her name is

tawdry olive
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sounds like a damn good time (i am doing this)

worldly wind
compact bronze
limpid latch
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Anyone use to play on playstation before?

lavish oak
tepid dagger
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Any good jewels for crit and or shields?

umbral crag
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That is a very vague question...?

tepid dagger
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Pretty sure i described it good

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What do you need

umbral crag
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You talking base jewels? Abyss? Cluster? Rare? Unique? Magic?

Whats the goal? dps? tank? Utility?

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Snd budget? High? Low? Mid?

tepid dagger
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Rare or cluster

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And dps

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Low budget

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Whats mid budget to you

umbral crag
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What is the build exactly?

tepid dagger
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Havent used a jewel this whole game so i need one

warm musk
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Might be decent if you get lucky crit?

umbral crag
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Are you lacking block chance? Ci? Life?

tepid dagger
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My life is fine

umbral crag
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You can never get enuf life kek but okay

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Get the shield first

tepid dagger
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Soooo

umbral crag
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Then talk jewel probably

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Are you doing block chance as one of your defensive layers?

tepid dagger
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Yes

umbral crag
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See how many questions you gotta ask before we can say whats good for you kek

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Easier if u share a pob

tepid dagger
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Ok

finite quail
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Hmmmmm

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I wanna come back and make a new character

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But the manaman rfad character seems like it'll take a lot just to get it off the ground

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What should I play next....

umbral crag
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Make a cursed one so that it sinks deep into the ground instd

finite quail
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what

umbral crag
potent horizon
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I wanna come back but not sure if I should do hard-core ssf what build should I go for if I do that

finite quail
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gimme a random off meta skill

finite quail
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make your own character

potent horizon
finite quail
potent horizon
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Oh

umbral crag
finite quail
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thats an actually good skill

potent horizon
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Oh

finite quail
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capable of both mapping and bossing

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Actually

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You know what, it is off meta cause no one usese it for that

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Just for the utility

potent horizon
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Winter orb or that thing you charge up

finite quail
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Maybe I should make a build around it

finite quail
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Technically I've already played self cast hydrosphere

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on my wintertide brand elementalist

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When mapping

umbral crag
finite quail
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So thats out the window too

finite quail
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This league

potent horizon
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Wait lemme look up the name of what I'm thinking of

lavish oak
finite quail
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winter orb is the one you charge up

lavish oak
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Yeah winter orb for charging, eye for spraying

finite quail
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Eye of winter is the frozen orb from diablo 2

umbral crag
finite quail
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Cmon cmon

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More off meta skills

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MORE

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gimme ideas

umbral crag
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Summon reaper kek

lavish oak
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Poe.ninja sort by least used

finite quail
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no.

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no minions.

finite quail
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It was not good

potent horizon
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Winter orb

finite quail
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Hmm....

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Perhaps if I build it with herald of ice

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It did get changed this league

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Not sure if it was a buff, though

lavish oak
finite quail
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Didn't understand the patchnotes around it very well

lavish oak
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I picked hiero since that was a lower use class and then an even lower use spell skill, find a dragonfang that supports it and go off

potent horizon
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Divine ire either disintegration or holy lightning

finite quail
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ASSASSIN LIGHTNING TRAP OF SPARKING

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YES

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maybe

lavish oak
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But poison also

finite quail
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no hell no

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not poison

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i'd kms

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traps are already shitty enough

lavish oak
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Nahhh surely poison, thinking of the struggle

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Think*

potent horizon
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5 quicksilver flask build

finite quail
finite quail
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since they dont stack

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Aite time to make a new pob

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for sparking

potent horizon
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Nah trust 5 quicksilver goes hard

lavish oak
potent horizon
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Wait a minute 4 amulet one glove goes crazy

lavish oak
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3 orbitfangs, no idea if they even stack and only half remember what their stats are but I remember they are vaguely poison based. Probably attack though

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Icefang orbit* gg my memory and looks like the only thing worth it that would stack in the poison damage and chance

finite quail
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Okay

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I am back

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I have an IDEA

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Starting out, saboteur lightning trap of sparking with return proj

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Then once I can afford the ff jewels for 13-15 div, swapping to assassin

stray sedge
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huh didnt know lightning trap had other version

proud gorge
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welp, I am back below 10k ES

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I just made a couple of adjustments to my build that, in practice, give me significantly more survivability despite lowering my ES by like 2k

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well, one of them is strictly temporary, anyways

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just until I get that Aul bloodline for the action speed

steel light
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82 armor scraps from one box bla

tawdry olive
tepid dagger
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@elder marlin

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What shield did you want me to use again?

elder marlin
tepid dagger
finite quail
tepid dagger
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Best movement skill is flame dash right?

finite quail
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there isnt a best movement skill

tepid dagger
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Ok k

finite quail
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Sure, flame dash is good

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But its situationally good

tepid dagger
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Soooo

finite quail
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Basically, it depends on your build

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like everything else

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start by saying what your build is

proud gorge
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the best movement skill is Frostblink of Wintry Blast

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but yes, it's situational

proud gorge
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if you're on a fast attacking melee build, it's probably leap slam

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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or shield charge, if you have a shield, though that can't go over walls

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if you're on daggers, Whirling Blades

tepid dagger
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Dagger and shield

proud gorge
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until you need to go over a ledge

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I think you can still whirling blades with dagger + shield, right?

tepid dagger
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Probably

proud gorge
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is it an attack speed build though?

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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whirling blades needs good attack speed

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so you wouldn't use it on, say, a spell build that just happened to be carrying a dagger

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in a similar sense, Flame Dash needs cast speed

tepid dagger
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Nah i use frost blades

proud gorge
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as does Frostblink of Wintry Blast

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then yeah, probably go Whirling Blades for your primary mobility, then one of Flame Dash or Frostblink to get over ledges

tepid dagger
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Aight bet

proud gorge
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Frostblink is instant, letting you cast it without interrupting your attacks, but has a decent cooldown

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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while Flame Dash isn't instant, so you have to stop attacking to cast it, but you get three charges and they're faster

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no

tepid dagger
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Cant stack same supports?

elder marlin
proud gorge
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you can't use the same support multiple times no

elder marlin
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support it with faster attack and momentum

proud gorge
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well, not on the same skill

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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unlike PoE2, where iirc you can only use each support gem once per build

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which is wack

tepid dagger
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How nasty

elder marlin
proud gorge
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but yeah, there's just not even close to enough cooldown reduction in the game to hit even close to 100% CDR

elder marlin
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try whirling blades out and see

tepid dagger
finite quail
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and flame dash for blinking

tepid dagger
finite quail
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Whirling blades feels amazing with high attack speed

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Except when you get close to walls

proud gorge
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me when shrines

finite quail
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then it feels like dogshit

tepid dagger
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Uhh

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Is 13k dmg normal from tooltip in hideout

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Im scared cuz its not 50k

proud gorge
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I mean, depends on a lot of things

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tooltip DPS is basically meaningless in most cases though

tepid dagger
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Lotta my dmg depends on if im hitting an enemy

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Not the air

proud gorge
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for example, observe my "in game tooltip" for my skill

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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lmao

tepid dagger
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L tooltip

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Down with it

proud gorge
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meanwhile my real DPS at this point is, like, 1.5 mil

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not amazing, but I am still in yellow maps

tepid dagger
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What lvl are you

proud gorge
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level 86

elder marlin
proud gorge
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but like I said, just started yellow maps

proud gorge
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I've always been a bit of a hipster lmao

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plus I don't like CoC builds that use base cyclone range

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Cyclone with base melee range is so small, so it turns a spellcaster build into functionally a melee build

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and if your projectiles are delayed at all (like FRoSS) you generally don't kill enemies until you've already moved past them

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it's a strong build, but it's just not my style

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plus, turns out for whatever reason the GMP AoEs have way better overlap when you self-cast compared to CoC

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you need like no increased AoE to reliably hit 5x overlap with self-cast

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meanwhile you need like 80% increased AoE to reliably hit 5x overlaps with CoC

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I'm not going to argue that poison self-cast is a strictly better build or anything, there's benefits and downsides, but I like the poison self-cast shell better

tepid dagger
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Ok now i just need good gloves and im set

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To die to a rare

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😭

finite quail
tepid dagger
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100% crit chance and 700% crit multiplier

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Damn

finite quail
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I think pob is lying about the traps dps

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And I'm still missing a ton of shit

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Its not even that expensive either

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under 50 divs so far I think

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GYAAAATTTTTT

proud gorge
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no that seems pretty accurate, traps are really strong

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what's with that warning though

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violating your int requirements?

finite quail
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Yeah I was missing like 11 int

tepid dagger
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Why do i only do 28k dmg..

finite quail
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build issue

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you lack knowledge

proud gorge
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that's going to happen early on

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like, low level

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also when you don't have a bunch of money invested

tepid dagger
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I miiiiight have to start a new build

proud gorge
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what build are you playing?

tepid dagger
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Frost blades

compact bronze
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can anyone in the guild edit?

proud gorge
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Frostblades got nerfed a bit, but it should still be very viable

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what class/ascendancy?

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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the thing is, there's some skills that are mechanically incredibly powerful, but slightly weird to use, and those tend to be on very tanky builds. By comparison, there's some skills that are very fast and aggressive to use, and those tend to be on very fast and high DPS builds. Frost Blades is one of the latter

steel light
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it helps to switch to pc if u're playing on ps UHM

proud gorge
tepid dagger
proud gorge
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though granted it's mostly played as a clearspeed skill rather than a DPS skill

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but like, there's some degenerate-ass Frost Blades Slayer on poe.ninja with 400 mil DPS

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though like 10-30m is probably a more realistic high investment benchmark

finite quail
steel light
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i'm playing on 1080ti UHM hence i can't do blight

proud gorge
# tepid dagger Not everyone has that ability

but yeah, if you want to see what a high investment version of your build looks like, go on poe.ninja, click on Builds at the top, go to some league (Keepers softcore will have the most builds on it) and just filter for your build

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for example, turns out most Frost Blades Slayers are using Claws instead of Daggers, which makes sense

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they're also mostly Heatshiver builds

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which also makes sense

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and a lot of them seem to be running Replica Farrul's Fur

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though most of them are running a rare chest, of course

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Replica Farrul's is a lot of DPS though

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oh, and a decent number are running The Taming, which makes sense

thick goblet
proud gorge
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Taming build makes a lot of sense for Frost Blades, but also means that the poe.ninja listed DPS is probably inaccurate to their actual real DPS with Heatshiver and Taming fully ramped

tepid dagger
lavish oak
tepid dagger
proud gorge
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with Hypothermia for some reason

tepid dagger
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Its in a dagger now

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Can you update it?

proud gorge
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I'm saying the dagger is a subpar pseudo-6-link

tepid dagger
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Oh ok

proud gorge
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Added Fire Damage and Increased Critical Strikes really aren't great supports

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for a Frostblades build

tepid dagger
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Is the dagger good though

proud gorge
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I mean, Increased Critical Strikes could work if you were heavily crit invested, but you're not

tepid dagger
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Oh

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Thought i was

proud gorge
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eh, not really, you optimally want a claw or something with very high flat cold damage

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instead of a dagger with okay physical damage

tepid dagger
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Crazy

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Ok tho

undone gazelle
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white wind would be a good one before getting a good rare

proud gorge
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yeah

thick goblet
# tepid dagger Is the dagger good though

so attacks use your weapon to hit, you are currently sacrificing a high damage weapon for additional supports (which aren't very good)
when you instead could be using a high damage weapon and placing your frostblades in a 6L in your chest (your attack doesn't need to be socketed in your weapon)

undone gazelle
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also only 4/8 asc allocated?

tepid dagger
thick goblet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYRB15sxDms here's a pob i found from this vid
https://pobb.in/7TXQ3sYUV8Tj i'd follow the 6L atlas rush preset

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tepid dagger
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Ahh shit

proud gorge
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as for your tree, it's vaguely alright, though I'm not sure why you're in Unwavering Stance. Are you getting stunned a lot?

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also you're missing the most important wheel for Frost Blades

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the Fangs of Frost wheel

tepid dagger
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Whatever theyre called

finite quail
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Hmmmmmm

thick goblet
proud gorge
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also you're missing the best mastery for any fast hitting elemental build in the game, 15% chance to treat enemy resistances as inverted

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also yeah, boxes freeze, not stun

tepid dagger
finite quail
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and read what unwavering stance does

undone gazelle
proud gorge
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or just be freeze immune or something

finite quail
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read read raed read read

finite quail
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use brine king pantheon

proud gorge
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wait why do you have the charge mastery to prevent nearby enemies from gaining charges

finite quail
proud gorge
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don't take that one

proud gorge
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it doesn't do anything

finite quail
proud gorge
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like, 98% of the time

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and that remaining 2% of the time it's very ignorable

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enemies gaining charges is basically irrelevant

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they get, what, 3 charges at most?

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a little bit of attack speed, crit chance, or PDR I guess?

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also you've got some empty jewel sockets, no reason to take a jewel socket without a jewel to put in it

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you're also prioritizing defenses weirdly hard for a Frostblades Slayer build

proud gorge
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but also in some weird places

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the best way to not die on Frostblades Slayer is just to kill the enemies instantly

tepid dagger
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True

proud gorge
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and also leech all your life back instantly

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you can go for a semi-block-ish build, if you want, but I'd prioritize damage first

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so you can actually kill things

thick goblet
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yeah just go whitewind and a 6L chest for frostblades

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it'll probably like 5x your damage or something

tepid dagger
proud gorge
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like I said, check out either a build guide on youtube or something (there's plenty for Frost Blades Slayer) or look on poe.ninja at what the guys on poe.ninja are doing

elder marlin
proud gorge
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the build guide is probably a lot more digestable though

thick goblet
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i posted a build guide earlier

proud gorge
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yeah

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that's probably good

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poe.ninja trawling is slightly more advanced

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since you need to be able to interpret and scale down/up raw PoBs

thick goblet
proud gorge
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there's attack builds that can't reasonably invest in accuracy, but Slayer isn't one of them

elder marlin
proud gorge
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okay but this is getting this guy from a 24k DPS build to something workable

thick goblet
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huh? you're not giving up a weapon prefix to save like 200 mana

elder marlin
proud gorge
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a high-end crafted claw is good, but even then I'm pretty sure every Frost Blades build is running the accuracy wheel

thick goblet
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okay and how many passive points worth of dps are you losing with only a two prefix weapon

elder marlin
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slightly inferior dagger for a shield+no accuracy passives+extra aura

proud gorge
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no wait, looks like they're actually running the "Hits Can't Be Evaded" craft

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at the very high end

thick goblet
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isn't it phys convert claws

proud gorge
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nah it's raw cold damage

thick goblet
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@elder marlin i guess im wrong, you're right

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im surprised, i dont understand why

proud gorge
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looks like the one build I clicked on was running the accuracy wheel, but most high-end builds are running that claw

elder marlin
proud gorge
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and it's a crit build, so no RT

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I didn't know Hits Can't Be Evaded craft was available, though

livid quarry
proud gorge
elder marlin
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craftable on 1h n 2h melee

livid quarry
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is that 11 frenzy flicker

proud gorge
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nah it's Frost Blades Slayer

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they're only on 7 frenzy charges looks like

finite quail
split maple
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is there any funky new twink setup this leg for duelist? got poet pen so maybe kfusilade, got hive ring, got impending doom helmet, dont have hollow palm :/

finite quail
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GYATTTTTT

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Too bad I need shavs

proud gorge
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I like how the Frostblades Slayers are all Breachlord Bloodline despite having zero points in the bloodline

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well, not all, but the highest percentage by far

finite quail
proud gorge
#

wait lmao what is this, apparently they put Svalinn in PoE2

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and it sucks ass

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how could they do this to my boy

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where's his Ward

split maple
#

i think thats my first mirror ever

finite quail
#

Noice, grats

elder marlin
split maple
#

just ran out of cata scarbs yeah

#

had 10 of them to burn

thick goblet
elder marlin
split maple
#

12p cluster or wand, this leg prolly 12p cluster

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tho drought there is scary i dont have mb -.-

steel light
#

the arctic armor damage taken reduction is the same as these?

elder marlin
#

the higher the hit, the less effective armor is

finite quail
split maple
#

so after dmg is already reduced by armor/res

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so it is good

fringe jetty
#

when new league UHM

finite quail
tepid dagger
#

Good base?

fringe jetty
elder marlin
finite quail
tepid dagger
finite quail
finite quail
#

idk what ur playing

elder marlin
elder marlin
finite quail
#

Also mageblood is not something I would get

elder marlin
#

or use traitor

finite quail
#

Why use traitor

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its nameless bloodline for +1 ring

#

brother did you even look at the screenshot past the dps number

elder marlin
finite quail
#

No utility flasks

elder marlin
finite quail
#

...

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I'm not stacking charges like that...

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Plus those are insanely expensive

elder marlin
#

how do u reach that high of a number tho

finite quail
#

Holon

elder marlin
#

thats like 1k ehp worth of dps

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and u have 3k

finite quail
#

oh hold on

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There

#

warp runegraft was showing twice accidentally, forgot to reset a node

elder marlin
#

shav wraping... interesting

finite quail
#

Yeah I'm not 100% sure about shavs

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Cause its completely zhp

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So a different unique might be better

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Probably inpulsas

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Or something with extra levels for the trap

elder marlin
finite quail
#

Replica loreweave would be 12% dps incraese

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And diallas...

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lemme see

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Diallas would be 22% dps increase

elder marlin
finite quail
elder marlin
#

assuming u deal lightning

finite quail
#

For 11 div, not too bad

elder marlin
#

didnt even test, just say no

finite quail
#

Cause I wouldnt do it

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So why bother

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That's better

elder marlin
finite quail
#

I fogor to add quality to gems oops

elder marlin
finite quail
#

cool theorycraft

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I may make the build ingame perhaps

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Just to fuck around and find out

tepid dagger
#

Is this worth it to craft crit chance on

tepid dagger
finite quail
#

terrible

elder marlin
finite quail
#

a third ring means a second curse

elder marlin
tepid dagger
#

25c each

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I only have 60c

thick goblet
finite quail
#

Agreed

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Buy a whitewind

tepid dagger
elder marlin
#

yea if u cant craft the hits cant be evaded then just buy whitewind

finite quail
#

Then use it

tepid dagger
#

Aight

elder marlin
#

any weapon with hits cant be evaded and high flat would easily beat it

tepid dagger
#

If uniques could be crafted on that would be crazy

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But it wouldnt be unique

finite quail
#

Veiled uniques basically

elder marlin
elder marlin
tepid dagger
finite quail
#

Those were a lot of tabs for investigating

tepid dagger
elder marlin
#

but im a respectful human being so im not gonna do it

naive roost
#

What's a normal price for tier 17 maps? I have no clue, I just throw them into the merchant tab for 50c each, and they usually sell pretty fast. Is that too cheap?

finite quail
#

I don't even have 10 div to my name rn

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Do whatever you want idrc

elder marlin
#

just kidding

finite quail
#

Or look the maps up inthe trade market

naive roost
elder marlin
#

8 mods sells for more

elder marlin
finite quail
#

Not the problem

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I can get currency easily

#

I'm just burnt out and not playing the game currently lol

elder marlin
lavish oak
#

Someone suggest a reroll that will occupy some time for me to slog through the campaign while I watch a movie on the side. Budget is 2 mirrors atm

umbral crag
#

2mir twink set up is wild

lavish oak
#

I meant that I'll be slogging through the campaign to begin with, the end build or at least getting it to the point of farming t17's probably needs to be under 2

umbral crag
proud gorge
elder marlin
crisp plinth
#

some people claim trarthus gems can drop in expeds is that a meme/bug or is that just super rare?

elder marlin
#

poets pen lightning warp

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

Exploding Skeleton Poppers

finite quail
#

popcorn

proud gorge
#

who doesn't love a good skeleton popcorn build

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

what about that one new bloodline that makes your minions stay alive for a couple seconds at 0 health, that's that one called?

tepid dagger
#

Aight so it buffed my damage to 50k according to tooltip

finite quail
proud gorge
#

Prolonged Servitude, that's the one

#

Prolonged Servitude Chains of Command

lavish oak
#

I believe I played a PP levelling build earlier on in the league to get my fusillade character started, that got me to 40/40 so now I'm just looking for something else that isn't wands. I don't mind the campaign being slow either

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

Winter Orb Power Charge Stack?

umbral crag
proud gorge
#

Flame Golem Chicken Nuggets

elder marlin
#

or coc fross

thick goblet
proud gorge
#

Will of the Lords Elementalist

frigid wedge
#

swapped to my impending doom to show someone smth on std and ive never felt such a strong wave of sadness in my life as when i swapped off that character to go back to my autobomber

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

Will of the Lords Elementalist actually looks interesting

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

this might be what it takes to convince me to play a trap build for once

frigid wedge
#

eblade

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its neat

proud gorge
#

it is yeah

umbral crag
proud gorge
#

but I'm already playing FRoSS and I'd rather not play a second ES-stack build immediately

frigid wedge
#

unfortunately no random projectile speed mod on gloves is 50% dmg loss

proud gorge
#

two ES-stack builds in a row is a bit much even for me

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maybe later

#

there's a lot of fun things you can do with eblade

frigid wedge
#

and the only reason mine got that high was bc of hh buffs and stone golem

lavish oak
frigid wedge
#

screen clear+punchy+ the best audio in the game thanks to cold dmg

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(i have no personal bias towards this skill even though i dont tend to play it)

umbral crag
#

Minimal clicking kek

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

If you want the single "punchiest" skill in the game, assuming "punchy" means instant damage with decent hit feedback, just go LCotH. It's not an amazing skill, it's honestly just an incredibly basic spell, but hey, sometimes basic is good.

lavish oak
proud gorge
#

Plus there's some decent tech for extremely basic spells that just hit this league

frigid wedge
#

lightning conduit of the heavens is weird tho

#

discharge is def a more punchy spell tho

proud gorge
#

LCotH is possibly the single most basic spell in the game, you just click near the enemies and they take damage

frigid wedge
#

u make a circle

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it deals damage

umbral crag
#

Ice nova of frostbolt

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Good times

frigid wedge
#

no

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default ice nova

#

u make a circle

#

it deals damage

umbral crag
proud gorge
#

Base Ice Nova yeah, though it at least has a windup

frigid wedge
#

i feel like arc is also arguably very basic

proud gorge
#

Arc has chaining behavior

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

That puts it one basic level below LCotH

frigid wedge
#

most ppl hear a game has lightning spells and immediately go look for the chain lightning spell

#

is all im tryna say

umbral crag
#

Ice arrow stuff?

proud gorge
#

It's still very basic, but very little compares to "click on enemy and they take damage" with zero bells and/or whistles

frigid wedge
#

and relative dps to terrain spread

umbral crag
#

Hmmm

proud gorge
#

Even basic attack is slightly more complex, because of positioning movement for melee or projectiles for ranged

frigid wedge
#

rain of arrows

#

u shoot in area, things in area get hit

proud gorge
#

LCotH, meanwhile, is just click mouse instant damage. It's like one line of code.

umbral crag
frigid wedge
#

no one optimises RoA aoe

#

the only way u get me to optimise RoA aoe is by giving me a 49% reduced light radius helical

lavish oak
#

Been years since I messed with mjolner

proud gorge
#

Could be fun yeah

frigid wedge
umbral crag
#

Mjolner is always kinda fun

frigid wedge
#

it just has smaller cast time

umbral crag
#

Mjolner lightning warp be funny

proud gorge
#

Classic "it's a lightning spell"

#

Hexblast of Havoc is an AoE, that somehow makes it more complex than LCotH

lavish oak
#

It's INT stacking but on an average, non meta level so it should be viable for getting a feel for it. Now just to find a comfy way to level it that isn't just hollow palm, or maybe light radius stacking -_-

proud gorge
#

LCotH truly is the spell that you create as a test to make sure that your damage system works before you've even coded in movement

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

I mean, it causes enemies within an Area to take damage

frigid wedge
#

the aoe for lighning conduit is also more confusing than hexblast of havoc

proud gorge
#

But they all take single target damage, equivalent to calling the damage() function

#

But fair enough

frigid wedge
#

for hexblast, area of effect, is the area of the damaging effect

#

for lightning conduit, area of effect is the targeting range

#

also it has other funky interactions

#

such as multi target and shocks

proud gorge
#

The first spell I programmed into my super basic PoE clone years ago was actually just a single target projectile, because turns out those are really easy.

#

So technically the most basic skill in the game is probably split arrow

frigid wedge
#

the most basic skill in the game is cleave

#

stop lying to urself

#

ooh what does this skill do

#

swing

proud gorge
#

Good old Split Arrow

frigid wedge
#

what does the swing do

#

damage

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sorry not cleave

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sweep

#

cleave has range scaling

#

sweep is literally just big swing

#

if u increase aoe, the size of swing gets bigger

#

swing deals damage

proud gorge
#

Has anyone actually legitimately used Split Arrow since, like, 2016 or something

frigid wedge
#

"what shape is swing?"
"circle"

proud gorge
#

It's just the bow basic attack but three of them

frigid wedge
proud gorge
#

Especially synching up the swing graphic with the animation

#

Actually anything with a skill animation (not the character animation, but the skill effect animation) is a bit more difficult than you'd expect, because you have to synch up damage to the animation timer and all that

proud gorge
#

Meanwhile Split Arrow is just: use the default shoot arrow from bow animation, spawn three arrow projectiles

jagged raven
#

ok lol

silent leaf
proud gorge
#

Situationally useful, probably

silent leaf
proud gorge
#

Oh yeah the apple

#

I guess that works

jagged raven
#

i dont get the joke

#

xD

silent leaf
#

kinda wish theres no "no block" on it

proud gorge
#

It's a unique shield

silent leaf
#

wouldve abused it hard

naive roost
#

Does Mageblood price generally go down over time as the league progresses? I'm saving up for one, apparently it's cheaper now than last time I checked by 10 div, not sure if it's just random fluctuation though

proud gorge
#

The shield looks like a golden apple

#

I don't remember what its called

silent leaf
jagged raven
silent leaf
#

you

jagged raven
#

lol what

silent leaf
#

use 2 of them

#

2 of that jewel

#

and you run enduring composure or exorable / etc

#

endu charge on kill

#

and you have permanently 3 warcries active

jagged raven
#

wait are u saying that jewel is useful to some build?

silent leaf
#

well people rather use 2x minimum endurance charge ring

#

but yea theres people genuinely use that 2x

proud gorge
#

Every item in the game has some use, even the ones that seem like downsides

silent leaf
#

^

jagged raven
#

what! man this game surprises me everyday

silent leaf
#

theres people who cant give up their ring slots

proud gorge
#

I'll have you know there's builds that wear essence worm for the purposes of the reservation inefficiency

silent leaf
#

and use that instead

proud gorge
#

Because they want to be reserving more

silent leaf
#

i wouldnt be suprised it got nuked

proud gorge
#

I mean I'm talking about Blood Sacrament, is there a new one this league?

silent leaf
#

oh

#

yea herald stacking

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or rather herald support stacking

#

you use 1 herald and stack supports for it

#

lycia bloodline

proud gorge
#

Ah, sounds funny

silent leaf
#

the hairless cat made a build guide around it iirc

jagged raven
#

did u guys ever get mageblood from tree?

silent leaf
#

no

#

never needed mageblood

proud gorge
#

I just started playing like a week and a half ago

#

But also Mageblood is very rare even from the tree

proud gorge
#

Playing this league, I will say

jagged raven
#

i just get baited by the megilord or whatever its name is

frigid wedge
#

if its a projectile it can by default not be simplest

viscid ruin
#

league feels a bit too empty atm :/

silent leaf
#

my belt is permanently attatched to t1 life leatherbelts, or stygian vise

#

or soul tether / replica

#

immortal flesh or preserverence if i can abuse it

proud gorge
#

"Most basic skill" requires a skill to go above and beyond in terms of basicittude, as there's only one crown, and one throne upon which to sit.

viscid ruin
#

idk but this remembered me electric conduit

#

and how it being a 2 skill or 3 skill setup depending on how you build didn't save it from ggg nerfing it to oblivion not even 1 league of existance

silent leaf
#

i wanna try going for flicker + slammer build and see how it goes

night schooner
#

Why is my druid not druiding

#

Oh wait wrong channel

proud gorge
proud gorge
#

Turns out the easiest way to make basically any skill work is to make it spawn a "projectile" that in turn deals damage to any enemy it hits

#

And then you just modify the properties of the projectile to make it look and act however you want

#

Even LCotH, despite dealing damage to individual enemies, probably spawns a projecile. Maybe multiple, even.

cosmic dagger
#

why can't I get the free mystery box? I tried opening the inventory or shop for a week now and I still didn't get it

split maple
#

its not supported in poe1 yet

#

dunno when

cosmic dagger
#

I guess next league 🙂

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thanks tho

fluid harbor
#

i just realized

#

why is 5 ways service same price as a helical ring

#

thats crazy

frigid wedge
brazen vector
finite quail
#

THE BOMB HAS ALMOST REACHED THE FINAL TERMINUS

umbral crag
umbral crag
tawdry olive
#

helical is really ambiguous lol, could be split/unsplit, is it fractured with a shit affix, etc

#

also 5 ways at this point in the league? yea i guess the one group running them deserves the profit

brazen vector
#

but yea, shit rolled misted are 15d

#

which is still 3d more than a 5 way run

tawdry olive
umbral crag
#

I was poking fun/sarcastic coz he evidently didnt filter the helical ring correctly

tawdry olive
#

on the topic, i kinda feel like paying for 5 ways is a little strange... if you pay at lower levels you're kinda skipping the most fun part of character progression where power comes for almost free

if you pay at like level 99 or something you're gonna be paying out the ass for that one level

brazen vector
#

thats why you buy early league

split maple
#

well in usual economy lvling gems pays for the runs

#

in dedleg economy?

tawdry olive
#

oh yea i guess you could atziri's disfavour 6 enlightens

#

early league

#

and get your toon to a high level to get ahead of others early

reef raptor
#

3.28 good or bad

brazen vector
#

you can fit like 27 enlightens or something

tawdry olive
#

its gonna be good we gotta huff the hopium

umbral crag
tawdry olive
#

we gonna slot 4 disfavours in this baby

brazen vector
#

but then youd also have to deal with triple attribute requirement unless you go big brain supreme ostentation

finite quail
#

that would be tiny brain tho

#

cause no int

tawdry olive
#

supreme ostentation by beloved

#

passive tree looking like someone's graffiti wall on the attributes

steel light
#

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/5tolen-2437/character/sososstolen can u 🤓 s help me how? i tried pob, arctic armor is supposed to be the 4th gem on my mask, but pob sims that it does nothing other than lowering my max hp, and states that an active Immortal Call + More Duration Support through a cast when stunned, would improve my survival despite it eating up all 6 of my endurance charges

brazen vector
finite quail
#

the joke is you have no int

#

therefore small brain

brazen vector
#

I have no int

split maple
#

ic is hella good defence but lasts like 0.01 of second and has then nasty cooldown

tawdry olive
#

actum moment

tawdry olive
#

that's like the number one thing i check and untick unless there really is 100% uptime somehow

split maple
#

IC in general needs hella good endu charge generation

tawdry olive
#

also yea arctic armour requires you to put at least 1s of "stationary" in the config

split maple
#

since you dont want to be pants down when it goes on cooldown

finite quail
steel light
#

idk how to customize anymore

#

also why is ninja saying i'm 85% block when i'm 62% in game?

undone gazelle
#

svalin

steel light
#

yea only that

finite quail
#

lucky block

brazen vector
tawdry olive
#

incidentally, this is also why svalinn is so good

steel light
#

is pob right though i'm someone that failed 1p+1p=1p 11 times in a row UHM

tawdry olive
#

when you're getting hit 10000 times in a map yea you can trust the average

#

i could't believe it myself either but a build like this can actually survive in T17s thanks to Svalinn. Of course i avoid the crit, -maxres and pen mods, my max hits are low enough as is

#

basically each individual hit you take isn't that much, what usually gets you is taking 20 of them in one second

icy swan
#

buy allready or keep waiting one month longer ?
i gues its slowed down with droping price

brazen vector
#

just buy if you wanna play with it

tawdry olive
#

Bruh haven’t you been asking this for days

brazen vector
#

weeks even

steel light
#

just wait for another 1.5 months so u can buy it on standard for 75d

#

might be even cheaper in 1.5 months Pogott

tawdry olive
#

Getting comfortable dropping stacks on progressing your character is how you get better at the game. Think about it you wait 3 days for 120d mageblood but you could have it now and then farm 1 hour to make up the 10D

elder marlin
steel light
#

by using the 100d to play your pathfinder UHM

elder marlin
#

I graduated the pathfinder

#

Spend abt 50d on it, satisfied with it alr

icy swan
elder marlin
#

looks kinda fancy ngl

icy swan
# brazen vector weeks even

yeah waiting for like month ; p havent played poe since, just checking stff maybe time to finish 36 quests

unique silo
#

i did some missions for that atlas commander but i havent received any more since. is there a way to get more missions from him?

finite quail
#

its a random chance to get a mission

#

you can also buy a harvest beast to get 5 missions

unique silo
icy swan
#

i even was lucky to buy one mb for 79d corupted, and sold for 125d xD

unique silo
finite quail
unique silo
finite quail
#

you need one Primal Cystcaller and 3 rare beasts iirc

elder marlin
#

-110d, im now dirt poor again

#

🥀

finite quail
#

DUDE

#

30% INCREASED DAMAGE WITH HITS AND AILMENTS AGAINST ABYSSAL MONSTERS

zinc sparrow
#

does anyone know why I cant recombine? is this from the nerfs?

elder marlin
zinc sparrow
#

no, when I select evasion and spectres the button is greyed out

#

mb for the screenshot

split maple
#

dont use predictable & predictable dont like the fancy mods

finite quail
steel light
split maple
#

you can guarantee transfer there

split maple
#

if you make sacred have low tier essence evasion as only prefix

elder marlin
#

Id rather not

zinc sparrow
split maple
#

unpredictable yeah

elder marlin
split maple
#

50-50 for correct base, mod always survives

elder marlin
split maple
#

make screenshot before you clikc button so we can check

#

& why not overqual sacred chain UHM

zinc sparrow
#

oh mb, the guide literally says to use unpredictable

split maple
#

remove bench to be dbl sure and it looks allright

zinc sparrow
#

but you caught that the essence mod was too high, thanks a lot

elder marlin
compact bronze
split maple
#

well repeat that 100 times now

#

its rng for hideout to appear in map

compact bronze
#

bruh for real?

elder marlin
split maple
#

no need to full clear

elder marlin
#

maybe even 1/1000

compact bronze
#

oh, i thought its guaranteed

split maple
#

just scout map if hideout proced

compact bronze
#

oh dang

steel light
#

why should some hideout sells for 10d or more if it's 100%? UHM

earnest sapphire
compact bronze
#

ohh that makes sense then

earnest sapphire
#

dc mageblood and triple synth ur clusters Garf

#

mist a ring

elder marlin