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depends on what ur pob looks like
Hows it looking like
For item modifiers, do all pieces in the same category (i.e. Gloves) have the same pool of possible modifiers or does each type of Glove have different possible modifiers?
Slightly different
For example a pure ES gloves cannot naturally roll armour or evasion.
Another one that is impacted would be attributes. U can check poedb.tw for more info
So when I am on poedb, I go to modifiers -> gloves. Are these base prefix and suffix for all types of gloves?
You can't use energy shield for reserving aura skills with EB, if thats what u meant
You selected only str gloves
I mean just in general
So those are the rolls that can roll for strength gloves.
I don't get it. You asked about mana reservation
Sorry I reread what you typed
Ppl use EB usually do so because they used nearly 100% of their mana to reserve for auras etc. so they need some form of ways to use their skills. EB allows them to use energy shield as costs to use their skills.
I am looking at these large perks and wondering if they work well in sync, Eldritch Battery + Wicked Ward + Mind Over Matter.
They do technically, but the question would then be whats the purpose of this combination?
It seems Tanky
Think of it this way. You have MOM usually because you have a large unreserved pool of mana that helps to soak up your damage taken. What's the point then of having EB with MOM, instead of just using the energy shield over your actual life?
The thing I am confused on is if Eldritch protects mana then how does MOM work?
It's not like you have limited mana to use ur skills that you need EB to help you cast it. In that case then MOM doesnt make sense does it
If you take damage with EB and MOM, 40% of damage goes to mana and 60% of damage goes to life.
However because u have EB, that 40% of damage taken has to go through energy shield first before touching your mana.
i got ripped off
Again, what's stopping you however from just using the energy shield to protect life instead of mana in that case?
Ohh so it will still attack my mana but only when my energy is depleted?
Hopefully some herald tats
Yes. Without energy shield left it the damage will go to your mana. Just like how if the ES is protecting yr life. It protects ur life until you have no more ES, then start taking ur life
Nothings changed in how ES works in that regard
Its always a hit or miss anyway
I had 1 mirr shard and another with 5 shards.
last time i got 2 mirror shards. I don't think it's worth for 2 avg
I'd rather spend my time farming good loot
Shrugs, I just don't do dust and do pure crops. It'll take longer but zero investment from me on dust
So i don't feel any pain
Sitting on 10s of millions of gold anyway lol
that makes sense for it
eb + mom isnt that unheard of if you have es recovery like aegis
Lets say I get hit by chaos damage which bypasses shield, will the shield take that 40% if I have EB and MOM?
It isn't no, but it's not as typical a combo. Thats why i asked what was the gameplan going into it.
No. As u said, chaos damage bypass energy shield. Doesnt matter if it was protecting life or mana.
Ty, that info is very crucial
EB CI 
The real OP strat
actually doable now apparently
What makes it op?
The fact that it makes people think its a real strat 
It seems like a huge disadvantage lol
Exactly, its meant to be a joke...
🐦⬛
I forgot to ask you something about Wicked Ward
The description is clear but I want to make sure
Does it consider energy cost for skills as damage interrupt for its recharge?
No
Cost spending is not considered damage
Well, in the case for EB at least
So it doesn't interrupt es recharge in the first place
So that means it will interrupt its recharge when I cast a skill
So you don't need wicked ward
you wouldnt want to fight 90 percent less recharge rate anyway. not for what it offers
Yeah the penalty is huge
Feel free to not use wicked ward if you're taking EB only, it doesn't do anything for you
I think I will combine EB and MOM with lots of energy leech
Feels kinda weird still. Are you spending that much mana in one cast that you need EB?
Yes, I am using spellslinger
Maybe find a source of mana leech instead?
Instead of this convoluted way of solving it
Whats the build
Currently just spell slinger with elemental and minions but I plan on having full herald build and all golems
Then what's the point of mom..?
Heralds reserve mana
Okay wait i kinda see what you're trying to achieve ish
I don’t know if I will have enough for spellslinger and heralds yet, I never made it far in this game
I mean, you could do that, or just stack life more and dont have to take MOM, and just use EB to use your skills
You'd have to pob that to see which makes better sense
Spellslinger is fun 😄
Because if u take mom and eb, you'd have to invest into decent amount of ES and life, and need es leech to sustain
eb and mom is a real head turner
As opposed to just stacking life and letting EB use ur ES just for using skills
its ok after this league we will be able to do CI EB MoM in standard 
Not many life perks in the witch tree area 😢
Im assuming you're doing a wander build right?
Yup!
Wand and shield
Having auto teleportation with spellslinger is super fun
Because power siphon auto targets for me
Not super familiar with wander build with witch, but surely you can just use enough -mana cost to bring your attacks mana costs down to near 0. Then you don't need to bother with this convoluted set up.
And just have ur es protect life
That is probably the best, it’s why I asked if these perks are better
I didn’t take them yet
Nah i highly doubt its worth the complicated set up
I am agreeing with you
time to buy boosti guess
get an omen just in case
how do people play ultimatum
this mechanic is scary
only tanky specs plays it, like cast when stunned
most are sleeping, i'm a nub, since u're gonna level up 1st u could wait til the old men wakes up, or just use someone in the list as reference for now, those with decent dps and ehp https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/?class=Deadeye&skills=Kinetic+Blast&sort=dps
You're from sg?
yes
Coolcool, havent met many fellow sgrean in this discord
Its either elementalist or deadeye that will be easiest to work with.
Any playstation standard players around?
Does anyone have this in standard?
was thinking of swapping with mine as I realized the PTA would be bad for a manastacker
153 poe.ninja says
wtf its my first time seeing this typa gear
its standard. its a museum of poe1's finest
is that only achievable on standard?
you cant make that armour on league
ohh damn
its an old glitched item
That people made copies of and crafted on nonstop
Until those monstrosities got created lmao
do supporter packs change every league?
the core supporter packs only change when there's a really big update, the league supporter packs change every league
i cant seem to find core keyword in the supporter packs in the pack shop at the moment, does that mean there arent any for current update?
man, Beyond in your Breach maps, especially Fortress, is cursed
or am i missing something
just an absolute flood of breach monsters spawning beyond portals everywhere
while you're trying to defend Ailith or whatever her name is
sounds like a damn good time (i am doing this)
man the supporter packs page is a real mess after poe2 lol. i think the poe2 supporter packs are the current set of core supporter packs
i see, shame. the previous core supporter packs look way cooler than current ones
very scary

Anyone use to play on playstation before?
We didn't get any Poe 1 or 2 core supporter packs this year sadly. They were replaced by the Poe 2 access packs. It's a shame because they are usually pretty sick and the Poe 2 access ones are definitely themed around that game to ab extent
Any good jewels for crit and or shields?
That is a very vague question...?
You talking base jewels? Abyss? Cluster? Rare? Unique? Magic?
Whats the goal? dps? tank? Utility?
Snd budget? High? Low? Mid?
What is the build exactly?
Frost blades slayer
Havent used a jewel this whole game so i need one
Might be decent if you get lucky crit?
Are you lacking block chance? Ci? Life?
I do need a shield also
My life is fine
Soooo
Then talk jewel probably
Are you doing block chance as one of your defensive layers?
Yes
See how many questions you gotta ask before we can say whats good for you kek
Easier if u share a pob
Ok
Hmmmmm
I wanna come back and make a new character
But the manaman rfad character seems like it'll take a lot just to get it off the ground

What should I play next....
Make a cursed one so that it sinks deep into the ground instd
what
Ranting of boredom ignore me 
HEY
I wanna come back but not sure if I should do hard-core ssf what build should I go for if I do that
gimme a random off meta skill
do whatever build you want
make your own character
Hydrosphere
thats not off meta
Oh
Death aura bomber, idk if thats considered off meta tho, prolly not
thats an actually good skill
Oh
capable of both mapping and bossing
Actually
You know what, it is off meta cause no one usese it for that
Just for the utility
Winter orb or that thing you charge up
Maybe I should make a build around it
Already played it
Technically I've already played self cast hydrosphere
on my wintertide brand elementalist
When mapping
Flameblast og
So thats out the window too
Wait lemme look up the name of what I'm thinking of
Eye of winter
winter orb is the one you charge up
Yeah winter orb for charging, eye for spraying
Eye of winter is the frozen orb from diablo 2
Welp
Summon reaper 
Poe.ninja sort by least used
I already made a siphoning trap character
It was not good
Winter orb
Hmm....
Perhaps if I build it with herald of ice
It did get changed this league
Not sure if it was a buff, though
Jesus not that bottom of the barrel. I've been aiming at making the 1% use or lower builds work. There's tons of viable options that gear is insanely cheap on in that usage bracket
Didn't understand the patchnotes around it very well
Thats the kinda builds I'm making now
Cause I'm tired of meta chasing
I picked hiero since that was a lower use class and then an even lower use spell skill, find a dragonfang that supports it and go off
Divine ire either disintegration or holy lightning
But poison also
5 quicksilver flask build
Please no
might aswell be 1 quicksilver flask build
since they dont stack

Aite time to make a new pob
for sparking
Nah trust 5 quicksilver goes hard
Better yet, no flasks and 3 rings, or no belt
Wait a minute 4 amulet one glove goes crazy
3 orbitfangs, no idea if they even stack and only half remember what their stats are but I remember they are vaguely poison based. Probably attack though
Icefang orbit* gg my memory and looks like the only thing worth it that would stack in the poison damage and chance
Okay
I am back
I have an IDEA
Starting out, saboteur lightning trap of sparking with return proj
Then once I can afford the ff jewels for 13-15 div, swapping to assassin
huh didnt know lightning trap had other version
welp, I am back below 10k ES
I just made a couple of adjustments to my build that, in practice, give me significantly more survivability despite lowering my ES by like 2k
well, one of them is strictly temporary, anyways
just until I get that Aul bloodline for the action speed
82 armor scraps from one box 
Mom I want to hit containment jackpot.
Mom: we have containment jackpot at home
the foulborn oppressors with spell block
Alright thats 5c gonna buy it now
Best movement skill is flame dash right?
there isnt a best movement skill
Ok k
Soooo
Basically, it depends on your build
like everything else
start by saying what your build is
Thanks
if you're on a fast attacking melee build, it's probably leap slam
Using dagger now so wont work
or shield charge, if you have a shield, though that can't go over walls
if you're on daggers, Whirling Blades
Dagger and shield
until you need to go over a ledge
I think you can still whirling blades with dagger + shield, right?
Probably
is it an attack speed build though?
I guess so
whirling blades needs good attack speed
so you wouldn't use it on, say, a spell build that just happened to be carrying a dagger
in a similar sense, Flame Dash needs cast speed
Nah i use frost blades
as does Frostblink of Wintry Blast
then yeah, probably go Whirling Blades for your primary mobility, then one of Flame Dash or Frostblink to get over ledges
Aight bet
Frostblink is instant, letting you cast it without interrupting your attacks, but has a decent cooldown
I can lower cooldown to nothing right?
while Flame Dash isn't instant, so you have to stop attacking to cast it, but you get three charges and they're faster
no
Cant stack same supports?
either shield charge or whirling blades
you can't use the same support multiple times no
support it with faster attack and momentum
oof
well, not on the same skill
Yeah i have my gems ready in a item already
unlike PoE2, where iirc you can only use each support gem once per build
which is wack
How nasty
whirling blades is better at higher atk spd
but yeah, there's just not even close to enough cooldown reduction in the game to hit even close to 100% CDR
try whirling blades out and see
Looks like im using it then
Whirling blades
and flame dash for blinking
I am using it now
Whirling blades feels amazing with high attack speed
Except when you get close to walls
me when shrines
then it feels like dogshit
I mean, depends on a lot of things
tooltip DPS is basically meaningless in most cases though
for example, observe my "in game tooltip" for my skill
Thats just ass
lmao
meanwhile my real DPS at this point is, like, 1.5 mil
not amazing, but I am still in yellow maps
What lvl are you
level 86
coc fross?
but like I said, just started yellow maps
Poison self-cast FRoSS actually
I've always been a bit of a hipster lmao
plus I don't like CoC builds that use base cyclone range
Cyclone with base melee range is so small, so it turns a spellcaster build into functionally a melee build
and if your projectiles are delayed at all (like FRoSS) you generally don't kill enemies until you've already moved past them
it's a strong build, but it's just not my style
plus, turns out for whatever reason the GMP AoEs have way better overlap when you self-cast compared to CoC
you need like no increased AoE to reliably hit 5x overlap with self-cast
meanwhile you need like 80% increased AoE to reliably hit 5x overlaps with CoC
I'm not going to argue that poison self-cast is a strictly better build or anything, there's benefits and downsides, but I like the poison self-cast shell better

I think pob is lying about the traps dps
And I'm still missing a ton of shit
Its not even that expensive either
under 50 divs so far I think

GYAAAATTTTTT
no that seems pretty accurate, traps are really strong
what's with that warning though
violating your int requirements?
Yeah I was missing like 11 int
Why do i only do 28k dmg..
that's going to happen early on
like, low level
also when you don't have a bunch of money invested
I miiiiight have to start a new build
what build are you playing?
Frost blades
how different are guild hideouts than normal?
can anyone in the guild edit?
Frostblades got nerfed a bit, but it should still be very viable
what class/ascendancy?
Slayer
the thing is, there's some skills that are mechanically incredibly powerful, but slightly weird to use, and those tend to be on very tanky builds. By comparison, there's some skills that are very fast and aggressive to use, and those tend to be on very fast and high DPS builds. Frost Blades is one of the latter
it helps to switch to pc if u're playing on ps 
Frost Blades Slayer is pretty strong yeah
Not everyone has that ability
though granted it's mostly played as a clearspeed skill rather than a DPS skill
but like, there's some degenerate-ass Frost Blades Slayer on poe.ninja with 400 mil DPS
though like 10-30m is probably a more realistic high investment benchmark
Hard to switch to pc now with prices of parts massively going up
i'm playing on 1080ti
hence i can't do blight
but yeah, if you want to see what a high investment version of your build looks like, go on poe.ninja, click on Builds at the top, go to some league (Keepers softcore will have the most builds on it) and just filter for your build
for example, turns out most Frost Blades Slayers are using Claws instead of Daggers, which makes sense
they're also mostly Heatshiver builds
which also makes sense
and a lot of them seem to be running Replica Farrul's Fur
though most of them are running a rare chest, of course
Replica Farrul's is a lot of DPS though
oh, and a decent number are running The Taming, which makes sense
have you posted your pob for advice
Taming build makes a lot of sense for Frost Blades, but also means that the poe.ninja listed DPS is probably inaccurate to their actual real DPS with Heatshiver and Taming fully ramped
Forgot how to update it
Pretty sure only the guild leader can edit guild hideouts, although anyone in the guild can use the benches and map device. Somewhat more like a central hub for everyone
You probably can so its slayr_Josh#9302
ah i see, thanks
okay, so your first issue is that you're running your Frost Blades in a subpar pseudo-6-link
with Hypothermia for some reason
Changed it
Its in a dagger now
Can you update it?
I'm saying the dagger is a subpar pseudo-6-link
Oh ok
Added Fire Damage and Increased Critical Strikes really aren't great supports
for a Frostblades build
Is the dagger good though
I mean, Increased Critical Strikes could work if you were heavily crit invested, but you're not
eh, not really, you optimally want a claw or something with very high flat cold damage
instead of a dagger with okay physical damage
white wind would be a good one before getting a good rare
yeah
so attacks use your weapon to hit, you are currently sacrificing a high damage weapon for additional supports (which aren't very good)
when you instead could be using a high damage weapon and placing your frostblades in a 6L in your chest (your attack doesn't need to be socketed in your weapon)
also only 4/8 asc allocated?
Yeah i know that it doesnt need to be socketed in my weapon but the gem is supported by fire damage support and crit damage support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYRB15sxDms here's a pob i found from this vid
https://pobb.in/7TXQ3sYUV8Tj i'd follow the 6L atlas rush preset
Fuzzy is again going with a Frostblades Slayer for the upcoming 3.27 expansion. It worked a charm last time round so why not go again!
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Ahh shit
as for your tree, it's vaguely alright, though I'm not sure why you're in Unwavering Stance. Are you getting stunned a lot?
also you're missing the most important wheel for Frost Blades
the Fangs of Frost wheel
From boxes
Whatever theyre called
you're getting frozen not stunned most likely
also you're missing the best mastery for any fast hitting elemental build in the game, 15% chance to treat enemy resistances as inverted
also yeah, boxes freeze, not stun
Gotta revamp my whole character
read the mods on strongboxes before you open them
and read what unwavering stance does
cluster with int or attri prefix?
I do
or just be freeze immune or something
read read raed read read
Then you'd know that being stunned and being frozen are two different things
use brine king pantheon
wait why do you have the charge mastery to prevent nearby enemies from gaining charges
Never says frozen
Not needed
don't take that one
Why not
it doesn't do anything
its not very useful
like, 98% of the time
and that remaining 2% of the time it's very ignorable
enemies gaining charges is basically irrelevant
they get, what, 3 charges at most?
a little bit of attack speed, crit chance, or PDR I guess?
also you've got some empty jewel sockets, no reason to take a jewel socket without a jewel to put in it
you're also prioritizing defenses weirdly hard for a Frostblades Slayer build
Not tryna die
but also in some weird places
the best way to not die on Frostblades Slayer is just to kill the enemies instantly
True
and also leech all your life back instantly
you can go for a semi-block-ish build, if you want, but I'd prioritize damage first
so you can actually kill things
yeah just go whitewind and a 6L chest for frostblades
it'll probably like 5x your damage or something
@proud gorge
like I said, check out either a build guide on youtube or something (there's plenty for Frost Blades Slayer) or look on poe.ninja at what the guys on poe.ninja are doing
accuracy problem tho
the build guide is probably a lot more digestable though
i posted a build guide earlier
yeah
that's probably good
poe.ninja trawling is slightly more advanced
since you need to be able to interpret and scale down/up raw PoBs
wdym, it's just a basic attack build
you take one accuracy wheel and precision and your hit chance is solved
there's attack builds that can't reasonably invest in accuracy, but Slayer isn't one of them
precision can be replace with other auras with a crafted dagger/claw
okay but this is getting this guy from a 24k DPS build to something workable
huh? you're not giving up a weapon prefix to save like 200 mana
and passive points too
a high-end crafted claw is good, but even then I'm pretty sure every Frost Blades build is running the accuracy wheel
okay and how many passive points worth of dps are you losing with only a two prefix weapon
slightly inferior dagger for a shield+no accuracy passives+extra aura
no wait, looks like they're actually running the "Hits Can't Be Evaded" craft
at the very high end
isn't it phys convert claws
looks like the one build I clicked on was running the accuracy wheel, but most high-end builds are running that claw
accuracy at high end kinda need more than an accuracy wheel and precision
and it's a crit build, so no RT
I didn't know Hits Can't Be Evaded craft was available, though
where do they get flat dmg
thats 1 exa
I mean, the T1 flat cold, plus Ice Bite giving flat cold per frenzy charge
craftable on 1h n 2h melee
is that 11 frenzy flicker

is there any funky new twink setup this leg for duelist? got poet pen so maybe kfusilade, got hive ring, got impending doom helmet, dont have hollow palm :/
I like how the Frostblades Slayers are all Breachlord Bloodline despite having zero points in the bloodline
well, not all, but the highest percentage by far

wait lmao what is this, apparently they put Svalinn in PoE2
and it sucks ass
how could they do this to my boy
where's his Ward
i think thats my first mirror ever
Noice, grats
ur doing ulti?inscribe+cata ulti?
holy congrats
what would u mirror in ssf tho
12p cluster or wand, this leg prolly 12p cluster
tho drought there is scary i dont have mb -.-
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/5tolen-2437/character/sososstolen @split maple u know the game well right? does arctic armor even do anything for my character?
the arctic armor damage taken reduction is the same as these?
it helps against hits that armor cant fully reduce
the higher the hit, the less effective armor is

arctic armor applies at the last step
so after dmg is already reduced by armor/res
so it is good
when new league 
2 months from now
Good base?
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
megablood or nah
its ok
What could be better
look
if u cant cap crit, use a dagger
can u replace sunblast?
I dont want to
Also mageblood is not something I would get
or use traitor
Why use traitor
its nameless bloodline for +1 ring
brother did you even look at the screenshot past the dps number


No utility flasks
synth charge rings?
how do u reach that high of a number tho
Holon
oh hold on
There
warp runegraft was showing twice accidentally, forgot to reset a node
shav wraping... interesting
Yeah I'm not 100% sure about shavs
Cause its completely zhp
So a different unique might be better
Probably inpulsas
Or something with extra levels for the trap
dialla?for zehp trully
Replica loreweave would be 12% dps incraese
And diallas...
lemme see
Diallas would be 22% dps increase

didnt even test, just say no
Cause I wouldnt do it
So why bother

That's better

50m from where u start 
cool theorycraft
I may make the build ingame perhaps
Just to fuck around and find out
Is this worth it to craft crit chance on
And the price?
terrible
why nameless bloodline tho, can u run 2 ring and a diamond flask
Wrong approach
a third ring means a second curse
u need hits cant be evaded craft
just go whitewind and 6L body for the time being, it'll be like 5c and at least 5x your damage
Is this true
I have one
yea if u cant craft the hits cant be evaded then just buy whitewind
Then use it
Aight
any weapon with hits cant be evaded and high flat would easily beat it
if using whitewind, u also have to take the accuracy wheel and precision
bound by destiny
I followed this dudes pob @thick goblet
Those were a lot of tabs for investigating
The tree
sniping u is tempting
but im a respectful human being so im not gonna do it
What's a normal price for tier 17 maps? I have no clue, I just throw them into the merchant tab for 50c each, and they usually sell pretty fast. Is that too cheap?
depends on the map

I don't even have 10 div to my name rn
Do whatever you want idrc
just kidding
download awakeend poe trade
Or look the maps up inthe trade market
On the type (Fortress, Ziggurat etc.) or mostly on the mods?
both
8 mods sells for more
farm harder
Not the problem
I can get currency easily
I'm just burnt out and not playing the game currently lol
best way to play the game=not playing the game and still get divs(not rmt)
Someone suggest a reroll that will occupy some time for me to slog through the campaign while I watch a movie on the side. Budget is 2 mirrors atm
2mir twink set up is wild
I meant that I'll be slogging through the campaign to begin with, the end build or at least getting it to the point of farming t17's probably needs to be under 2
well what have u played so far
hmm, Lightning Poison EE Mamba? Flameblast of Contraction (or Celerity if you're boring) Archmage? Oshabi Ragestack Reave of Refraction Juggernaut?
i lend mine to friend alr but the gear is only 20d at most
some people claim trarthus gems can drop in expeds is that a meme/bug or is that just super rare?
poets pen lightning warp
So much shit, I've played what feels like most wand builds unless it's super off meta, played LS/LA/TS to death over the last few leagues and I don't want to do RF or slams again.
Exploding Skeleton Poppers
popcorn
hroc
who doesn't love a good skeleton popcorn build
I played the crit version of that last league, was a blast farming t17 abyss
what about that one new bloodline that makes your minions stay alive for a couple seconds at 0 health, that's that one called?
Aight so it buffed my damage to 50k according to tooltip
Selfcast arc unleash oshabi bloodline for the unleash node elementalist
I believe I played a PP levelling build earlier on in the league to get my fusillade character started, that got me to 40/40 so now I'm just looking for something else that isn't wands. I don't mind the campaign being slow either
acc/int stacker maybe
I dropped 2 of the perfectly rolled claws and tried to get into it but honestly it feels kinda trash without going all in
Winter Orb Power Charge Stack?
No herald pob ele or int acc stackers yet?
Flame Golem Chicken Nuggets
coc poison maybe
or coc fross
just pick a class and play one of the three skills offered at end of normal lab
Will of the Lords Elementalist
swapped to my impending doom to show someone smth on std and ive never felt such a strong wave of sadness in my life as when i swapped off that character to go back to my autobomber
I have a chronic rerolling until I hit 95-98 problem, I've played both recently to at least mid tier investment. Some of the more off meta suggestions here are looking appealing though
Will of the Lords Elementalist actually looks interesting
Honestly bet, just try and make whatever drops work
this might be what it takes to convince me to play a trap build for once
play spectral throw of trarthus
eblade
its neat
it is yeah
Fair. I stopped investing in my pbod herald stacker after a little under 1mir investment as well myself
but I'm already playing FRoSS and I'd rather not play a second ES-stack build immediately
unfortunately no random projectile speed mod on gloves is 50% dmg loss
two ES-stack builds in a row is a bit much even for me
maybe later
there's a lot of fun things you can do with eblade
i havent gone over 9k es in 12 months
and the only reason mine got that high was bc of hh buffs and stone golem
I felt like it needed to be more punchy, dunno why but I sometimes can't get into the almost 0 buton builds, even though the screen clear was insane
go play frost blades
screen clear+punchy+ the best audio in the game thanks to cold dmg
(i have no personal bias towards this skill even though i dont tend to play it)
I like it coz i can play silently in office during work hahaha
Minimal clicking kek
I haven't played frost blades since probably delirium, that might be something I can lean into
If you want the single "punchiest" skill in the game, assuming "punchy" means instant damage with decent hit feedback, just go LCotH. It's not an amazing skill, it's honestly just an incredibly basic spell, but hey, sometimes basic is good.
I'm on holiday on an average laptop but I'm willing to be a masochist for clicks and low frames
Plus there's some decent tech for extremely basic spells that just hit this league
lightning conduit of the heavens is weird tho
discharge is def a more punchy spell tho

LCotH is possibly the single most basic spell in the game, you just click near the enemies and they take damage
ice nova
u make a circle
it deals damage
Totem ice nova lets go
Base Ice Nova yeah, though it at least has a windup
i feel like arc is also arguably very basic
Arc has chaining behavior
if ur playing poe u understand the concept of a chain lightning spell
That puts it one basic level below LCotH
most ppl hear a game has lightning spells and immediately go look for the chain lightning spell
is all im tryna say
Ice arrow stuff?
It's still very basic, but very little compares to "click on enemy and they take damage" with zero bells and/or whistles
ice shot has cones for dps that u gotta deal with
and relative dps to terrain spread
Hmmm
Even basic attack is slightly more complex, because of positioning movement for melee or projectiles for ranged
LCotH, meanwhile, is just click mouse instant damage. It's like one line of code.
Area optimisation tho
no one optimises RoA aoe
the only way u get me to optimise RoA aoe is by giving me a 49% reduced light radius helical
Found a mjolner version of LCotH, looks interesting even though it's not self cast
Been years since I messed with mjolner
Could be fun yeah
isnt this functionally the same as hexblast of havoc
Mjolner is always kinda fun
it just has smaller cast time
Mjolner lightning warp be funny
Classic "it's a lightning spell"
Hexblast of Havoc is an AoE, that somehow makes it more complex than LCotH
It's INT stacking but on an average, non meta level so it should be viable for getting a feel for it. Now just to find a comfy way to level it that isn't just hollow palm, or maybe light radius stacking -_-
LCotH truly is the spell that you create as a test to make sure that your damage system works before you've even coded in movement
lightning conduit is also aoe
I mean, it causes enemies within an Area to take damage
the aoe for lighning conduit is also more confusing than hexblast of havoc
But they all take single target damage, equivalent to calling the damage() function
But fair enough
for hexblast, area of effect, is the area of the damaging effect
for lightning conduit, area of effect is the targeting range
also it has other funky interactions
such as multi target and shocks
The first spell I programmed into my super basic PoE clone years ago was actually just a single target projectile, because turns out those are really easy.
So technically the most basic skill in the game is probably split arrow
the most basic skill in the game is cleave
stop lying to urself
ooh what does this skill do
swing
Good old Split Arrow
what does the swing do
damage
sorry not cleave
sweep
cleave has range scaling
sweep is literally just big swing
if u increase aoe, the size of swing gets bigger
swing deals damage
Has anyone actually legitimately used Split Arrow since, like, 2016 or something
"what shape is swing?"
"circle"
It's just the bow basic attack but three of them
also btw hexblast of havoc has like half as much text
Melee basic attacks with a swing animation are actually surprisingly difficult
Especially synching up the swing graphic with the animation
Actually anything with a skill animation (not the character animation, but the skill effect animation) is a bit more difficult than you'd expect, because you have to synch up damage to the animation timer and all that
Meanwhile Split Arrow is just: use the default shoot arrow from bow animation, spawn three arrow projectiles
ok lol
Situationally useful, probably
kinda wish theres no "no block" on it
It's a unique shield
wouldve abused it hard
Does Mageblood price generally go down over time as the league progresses? I'm saving up for one, apparently it's cheaper now than last time I checked by 10 div, not sure if it's just random fluctuation though
usually yeah
oh but how does it relate to the jewel
you
lol what
use 2 of them
2 of that jewel
and you run enduring composure or exorable / etc
endu charge on kill
and you have permanently 3 warcries active
wait are u saying that jewel is useful to some build?
well people rather use 2x minimum endurance charge ring
but yea theres people genuinely use that 2x
Every item in the game has some use, even the ones that seem like downsides
^
what! man this game surprises me everyday
theres people who cant give up their ring slots
I'll have you know there's builds that wear essence worm for the purposes of the reservation inefficiency
and use that instead
this league*

Because they want to be reserving more
i wouldnt be suprised it got nuked
I mean I'm talking about Blood Sacrament, is there a new one this league?
oh
yea herald stacking
or rather herald support stacking
you use 1 herald and stack supports for it
lycia bloodline
Ah, sounds funny
the hairless cat made a build guide around it iirc
did u guys ever get mageblood from tree?
I just started playing like a week and a half ago
But also Mageblood is very rare even from the tree
Playing this league, I will say
i just get baited by the megilord or whatever its name is
yes but ur saying a projectile is the most basic skill, yet discounted arc due to having JUST chaining behaviours
if its a projectile it can by default not be simplest
league feels a bit too empty atm :/
my belt is permanently attatched to t1 life leatherbelts, or stygian vise
or soul tether / replica
immortal flesh or preserverence if i can abuse it
Arc is actually a funny case, because it's a non-projectile that has to determine it's entire path on cast. Like, it's relatively basic, but it's certainly not the most basic from either a programming or gameplay design standpoint
"Most basic skill" requires a skill to go above and beyond in terms of basicittude, as there's only one crown, and one throne upon which to sit.
idk but this remembered me electric conduit
and how it being a 2 skill or 3 skill setup depending on how you build didn't save it from ggg nerfing it to oblivion not even 1 league of existance
i wanna try going for flicker + slammer build and see how it goes
Also, here's the thing. An AoE is just a big projectile with infinite pierce. A melee attack is just a short projectile with zero velocity. An arc is just a projectile that happens infinitely. This is not a joke, that's probably genuinely how PoE is programmed.
Turns out the easiest way to make basically any skill work is to make it spawn a "projectile" that in turn deals damage to any enemy it hits
And then you just modify the properties of the projectile to make it look and act however you want
Even LCotH, despite dealing damage to individual enemies, probably spawns a projecile. Maybe multiple, even.
why can't I get the free mystery box? I tried opening the inventory or shop for a week now and I still didn't get it
ur not rlly making it clear if the standpoint is the coding or the gameplay, realistically smth like crackling lance of disintegration is simplest if u want both sides, u click, a beam goes from player to mouse and continues until theres a wall, there is no visual or functional scaling of size, and it just hits and the hitbox is a single large rectangle
Helicals are 12d?
Since when?
Its showing as 39d for me for split helical ring
helical is really ambiguous lol, could be split/unsplit, is it fractured with a shit affix, etc
also 5 ways at this point in the league? yea i guess the one group running them deserves the profit
39d for split, non fractured, non mirrored
I am sure Lacrolyte knows about that stuff :D
but yea, shit rolled misted are 15d
which is still 3d more than a 5 way run
mhmm i meant to reply to the original comment from jee
Yeah hahahah
I was poking fun/sarcastic coz he evidently didnt filter the helical ring correctly
on the topic, i kinda feel like paying for 5 ways is a little strange... if you pay at lower levels you're kinda skipping the most fun part of character progression where power comes for almost free
if you pay at like level 99 or something you're gonna be paying out the ass for that one level
thats why you buy early league
oh yea i guess you could atziri's disfavour 6 enlightens
early league
and get your toon to a high level to get ahead of others early
3.28 good or bad
you can fit like 27 enlightens or something
its gonna be good we gotta huff the hopium
Wdym, i enjoy spending 1 week of farming for a 0.1% increase in dps

where's that poe2 keystone for two 2handed weapons
we gonna slot 4 disfavours in this baby
in poe2
but then youd also have to deal with triple attribute requirement unless you go big brain supreme ostentation
supreme ostentation by beloved
passive tree looking like someone's graffiti wall on the attributes
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/5tolen-2437/character/sososstolen can u 🤓 s help me how? i tried pob, arctic armor is supposed to be the 4th gem on my mask, but pob sims that it does nothing other than lowering my max hp, and states that an active Immortal Call + More Duration Support through a cast when stunned, would improve my survival despite it eating up all 6 of my endurance charges
no need for int
check stationary in config
not what im talking about
the joke is you have no int
therefore small brain

I have no int
ic is hella good defence but lasts like 0.01 of second and has then nasty cooldown
actum moment
you gotta be REALLY really careful about guard skills on POB
that's like the number one thing i check and untick unless there really is 100% uptime somehow
erm, I am a 
IC in general needs hella good endu charge generation
also yea arctic armour requires you to put at least 1s of "stationary" in the config
since you dont want to be pants down when it goes on cooldown
a glorp
idk how to customize anymore
also why is ninja saying i'm 85% block when i'm 62% in game?
svalin
yea only that
lucky block
in game lies about a lot of stuff, or rather doesnt account for modifiers
thats the answer, POB does the lucky calculation for you
incidentally, this is also why svalinn is so good
is pob right though i'm someone that failed 1p+1p=1p 11 times in a row 
when you're getting hit 10000 times in a map yea you can trust the average
i could't believe it myself either but a build like this can actually survive in T17s thanks to Svalinn. Of course i avoid the crit, -maxres and pen mods, my max hits are low enough as is
basically each individual hit you take isn't that much, what usually gets you is taking 20 of them in one second
buy allready or keep waiting one month longer ?
i gues its slowed down with droping price
just buy if you wanna play with it
Bruh haven’t you been asking this for days
weeks even
just wait for another 1.5 months so u can buy it on standard for 75d
might be even cheaper in 1.5 months 
Getting comfortable dropping stacks on progressing your character is how you get better at the game. Think about it you wait 3 days for 120d mageblood but you could have it now and then farm 1 hour to make up the 10D
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Destiny1709-7457/character/ImProbablyAFKATM i have abt 100d, what can i upgrade?
Explore economy and build overviews for the action role-playing game Path of Exile.
by using the 100d to play your pathfinder 

I graduated the pathfinder
Spend abt 50d on it, satisfied with it alr
maybe not last server was 100d before end
looks kinda fancy ngl
yeah waiting for like month ; p havent played poe since, just checking stff maybe time to finish 36 quests
i did some missions for that atlas commander but i havent received any more since. is there a way to get more missions from him?
Rng
complete maps
its a random chance to get a mission
you can also buy a harvest beast to get 5 missions
ohhhh tyvm
i even was lucky to buy one mb for 79d corupted, and sold for 125d xD
where can i buy one?
the trade market
got it chief ty!
you need one Primal Cystcaller and 3 rare beasts iirc
does anyone know why I cant recombine? is this from the nerfs?
U can only select 2 stats, also u should do random
no, when I select evasion and spectres the button is greyed out
mb for the screenshot
dont use predictable & predictable dont like the fancy mods
use unpredictable
u still have to use divs to reroll the 101% implicit mod to 120% 👀
you can guarantee transfer there
if you make sacred have low tier essence evasion as only prefix
Id rather not
guarantee with unpredictable?
unpredictable yeah
3% explode is nothing
50-50 for correct base, mod always survives
Yes
make screenshot before you clikc button so we can check
& why not overqual sacred chain 
remove bench to be dbl sure and it looks allright
but you caught that the essence mod was too high, thanks a lot
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Destiny1709-7457/character/ImProbablyAFKATM anything else i can upgrade?
Explore economy and build overviews for the action role-playing game Path of Exile.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Nocturnal_Hideout#Location Ive already full cleared the map moon temple map with 0 enemies left but still not unlocked the hideout
Nocturnal Hideout is a hideout.
bruh for real?
really rare
no need to full clear
maybe even 1/1000
oh, i thought its guaranteed
just scout map if hideout proced
oh dang
why should some hideout sells for 10d or more if it's 100%? 
do u want a realistic answer? or just lilterally anything
ohh that makes sense then
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