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silent leaf
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i tried

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tree shits out at best 900 pdps axes

frigid wedge
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but what if its chieftain and reasonably tanky

silent leaf
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nah i wont do that in hcssf

frigid wedge
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fair enough

silent leaf
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i rly rly dont want to go back bashing my head in act 1-3 again

frigid wedge
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shouldn't even need a 6L tho

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which is nice

silent leaf
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i mean if its just farming ig i can use it

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if its alch and go t16

frigid wedge
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i gotta test how to make pure explode deal ok dps

silent leaf
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with regex idm

frigid wedge
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oh its phys explode we're chilling

silent leaf
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actually nvm its 2 months left idk if i want to continue in hcssf

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my current objective is just 3 stone

frigid wedge
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ok herald of ash might get nerfed but it better not

silent leaf
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heralds wont get nerfed ye

frigid wedge
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bc the herald stacker is reasonably balanced rn

split maple
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harbbeyond kinda ok exp

frigid wedge
silent leaf
frigid wedge
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also this is shipment only drop anyway

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yeah

silent leaf
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yea

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yea they wont ever touch that p sure

frigid wedge
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thats why i don't expect u to do it in ssf

silent leaf
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eh its kinda fine ig

frigid wedge
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but i kinda just wanna find any excuse to use it

silent leaf
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prob week 1 thing next league

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i got the 3 shipment uniques

frigid wedge
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for the warcry cdr

split maple
silent leaf
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i forgot which are the other 2

split maple
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dont tell me you got cadigan and forgot

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thats the rarest

silent leaf
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wttf is cadigan

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its the belt

frigid wedge
split maple
silent leaf
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oh not that one

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i got the belt, HAWK TAWHOA

split maple
silent leaf
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and i forgot the other one

split maple
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yo belt is very usable

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i saw a very smexy pob for earthshatter bers with yndas

frigid wedge
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yndas is great for ward stacking

silent leaf
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lmfao

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i have HAWK TAWHOA

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i spam that shit in global kek

frigid wedge
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bleh

pastel radish
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are the green heist contracts u find worth doing ?

silent leaf
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"yes"

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kinda

frigid wedge
silent leaf
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you get access to unique contracts after

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which can kinda sell for decent amount i think?

frigid wedge
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the worthwhile part is u stop finding them kek

split maple
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unique contracts have guaranteed unique drop

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dunno if any build this league uses these tho

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maybe fledgling?

silent leaf
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ye the twins are good i think

finite quail
frigid wedge
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one of the unique contracts is like 50c

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bc the twins is required for challenges

silent leaf
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i played EA

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and i did no like

finite quail
frigid wedge
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corpsewalker kaoms command with 500% warcry cdrr genuinely seems kinda ok

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but idk how well it kills in front of u

silent leaf
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there is one build ik of that runs kaoms command + uul's

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and thats endu stacker juggie

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"autobomber" with unearth

frigid wedge
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yeah i mean i was just gonna force that into the entire archetype

frigid wedge
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but also that was ancestral commander

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not jugg

finite quail
frigid wedge
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0 button

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just corpsewalker

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maybe penance mark

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but thats it

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it would be better on elementalist but im getting really sick of explode being worse on everything that isnt shaper of flames element

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so its not going to

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ill look at it later after i decide if i should make a valdo build with 8k life

finite quail
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35% chaos res... yet 25k chaos max hit...

elder marlin
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whats the breakpoint for stun and block recovery?

silent leaf
elder marlin
silent leaf
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essentially ye

elder marlin
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cws also trigger with server tick right?

finite quail
silent leaf
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no idea

pulsar dune
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you usually don't build cdr on cws

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so it doesn't matter, you can be stunned while you are stunned

elder marlin
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@steel light why do u use firestorm instead of firestorm of meteors?

frigid wedge
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firestorm life on hit is strong

silent leaf
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arent you supposed to run firestorm of pelting

frigid wedge
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yes

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u use firestorm primarily bc of how often it hits

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so u get a bunch of life on hit

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same for bladefall

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idk if normal cws uses bladefall

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or if thats just poison cws

elder marlin
pulsar dune
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I wouldn't expect enough trigger rate to even get more damage out of firestorm of meteors

frigid wedge
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firestorm of pelting is constant dps even if ur not being hit too

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bc it has a rlly big duration

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compared to other skills in the setup

robust acorn
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theres no real downside to vaaling uniques right? not like poe1 where they could brick

steel light
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are u in the right channel?

umbral crag
silent leaf
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sounds like you're delirious

robust acorn
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yeah sorry wrong place

finite quail
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That's better

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Too bad the dps is still very mediocre

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what a mess lmao

elder marlin
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if im immune to shock, freeze, bleed, cb, poison, what other ailment immune do i need to comfortably map and stuff?

gritty epoch
finite quail
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ignite not so much

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if you have good recovery, that is

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if not, then get an ignite immune flask

elder marlin
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1.4k life regen

jagged raven
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anyone here playing coc build?

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thinking of making one

steel light
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what's ur budget?

finite quail
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That's better

elder marlin
finite quail
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how much dps do rf builds usually have?

steel light
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they're call zdps for a reason UHM

split maple
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you are in ballpark pretty much

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for rf chiefs

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rf scion can dotcap

finite quail
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its a hierophant

split maple
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you threw adorned on alreadY?

finite quail
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no sockets

jagged raven
split maple
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wdym no sockets, there is no voices there

proud gorge
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man, that was weird. I was just doing a random Ultimatum in my map, and it was going alright, but then at a certain point I just started losing HP despite not getting hit

finite quail
proud gorge
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like, it was as though I was burning down or something, but I had no ailments

split maple
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chaos dot cloud?

elder marlin
proud gorge
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I'm CI, so it wasn't the totem

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oh

finite quail
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the chaos cloud you mean

proud gorge
finite quail
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the totems could definitely have been it

proud gorge
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well, that'd do it

finite quail
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you take like 10% of your lifepool per sec i think

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es aswell

proud gorge
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yeah, and I don't have over 10% ES regen

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well, that would explain it

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I guess up to that point I had been taking enough physical hits from enemies that my Armour/ES mastery was keeping my health up

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well, good to know for the future I guess

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the totem didn't even benefit me, since I'm chaos damage, I just assumed for some reason that it only caused that health loss to enemies and not me

jagged raven
split maple
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es on block

finite quail
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ignore ehp always

split maple
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ehp is basically how many hits can you take from pack of normal mobs, so any recovery on block is infintie shrugR

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set config to uber and disable recovery in config and see a tad more real numbers

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but its always janky and unreliable measure that should be ignored

finite quail
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max hits are what matter

jagged raven
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ohhhh
what do i check to know if its a tanky build or no?

pulsar dune
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Max hits and recovery

split maple
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max hits and recovery

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especially phys max hit

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with realistic config so without guard skill up

pulsar dune
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You have to actually pay attention to what sources of recovery a build has

split maple
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for extra points set skill type in config to attack so spell suppress wont inflate it too much kek

proud gorge
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I've said it before but I'll say it again, I wish PoB had some stat that represented "recovery" entirely so that I can filter by it on poe.ninja

jagged raven
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damn so many things to know

elder marlin
proud gorge
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as is I have to find builds by filtering by max hit and then manually looking at builds to see what their recovery looks like

proud gorge
finite quail
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thats up to poe.ninja

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not pob

proud gorge
# pulsar dune EHP

eHP doesn't take into account recovery at all except for "gain on block/hit" recovery

jagged raven
split maple
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how will you sum together regen/leech/on hit/block recoup etc tho

finite quail
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top of the config options

split maple
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all these feel different to play with

frigid wedge
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how much effort would it take to cwdt loop with raise zombie of falling

proud gorge
# finite quail thats up to poe.ninja

the reason it doesn't exist is because there's no single filterable stat, it's a bunch of different stats like Health Regen, ES Regen, sometimes Mana Regen, Health Leech, ES Leech, Recoup, etc

proud gorge
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even if the stat were mostly meaningless, I mean, eHP already exists

jagged raven
finite quail
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same as any othet cwdt looper takes?

finite quail
jagged raven
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is that good or bad?

frigid wedge
finite quail
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itsa joke

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what do you think is better

split maple
finite quail
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100k dps

proud gorge
finite quail
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or 100 million dps

proud gorge
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and, again, eHP already exists

finite quail
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i dont need to answer it for you

latent ingot
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A bit weird to ask but does anyone knows or can point into a good Poe lore video or something

proud gorge
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no "unified recovery" stat could be more inaccurate and misleading than eHP already is

split maple
jagged raven
frigid wedge
proud gorge
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I know some of the lore, I've read lore things

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but yeah I don't watch lore summary videos

split maple
jagged raven
split maple
frigid wedge
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immortal call

split maple
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then max hits will be semi realistic

jagged raven
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ohh right

proud gorge
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but yeah, my idea for a "unified recovery" stat would just be something like "how quickly can this build recover all of its health pool". So like, a build with super good recovery and leech might have "0.1", while a build with no functional recovery might have "inf"

jagged raven
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dropped alot

proud gorge
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the main issue with representing the stat that way is that the values would get exponentially more important the closer to 0 they got

split maple
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yea thats reasonable now, prolly not too inflated config

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24 phys max hit is decent

proud gorge
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so maybe some sort of reverse logarithmic function of that? Such that the closer the number gets to 0, the higher the "effective recovery" stat is? The main issue is that obfuscating it to that degree makes the number feel meaningless

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like, if someone said "yes this build has a full health recovery time of 0.5 seconds" you can pretty reasonably get what that means, but if someone instead said "this build has a Recovery Score of 5000" that's just meaningless

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I suppose the other way would be to just take the overall flat recovery rate, then just divide that by the health pool size? Thus: healthbars per second

frigid wedge
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as soon as i figure out a way to not die the second i stop casting im putting it together

proud gorge
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and by comparison, Dissolution of the Flesh would get 0

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honestly Dissolution is the biggest reason why I want a "net recovery" stat, any Dissolution build has really high eHP, really high max hit, and then feels insanely squishy in any real gameplay

frigid wedge
split maple
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like look at relic of the pact disso glads this leg

proud gorge
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"Gimme a lifestack build that falls over if a pack of white mobs looks at them too hard"

split maple
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blood barrier man

pulsar dune
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disso builds never struggled with hits, it's always damage over time

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nothing lives long enough to actually threaten you with hits

proud gorge
split maple
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then yea dots are ass and bad timing with having life reserved too

proud gorge
split maple
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but like this leg fixed that pretty substantially

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has to be accounted for

proud gorge
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so despite the massive health pool it played like an omega-squishy 6-portal-defense build

frigid wedge
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someone suggest me a way to leech without a keyboard

proud gorge
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where you had to constantly blink in and kill enemies instantly or they'd kill you

split maple
frigid wedge
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and how u gonna hit urself for that

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without clicking anything

proud gorge
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you're doing CWDT aren't you?

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or was that someone else

frigid wedge
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i asked about cwdt

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but i need full uptime leech flask

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has nothing to do with a looper

split maple
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echoes

frigid wedge
proud gorge
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ah, then idk Tides/Mageblood with CWS or something

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unfortunately Leech requires that you generate hits

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oh wait, I got it

frigid wedge
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i want enough leech uptime to not keel over and die when i run out of things to hit

proud gorge
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Baron zombies

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those leech for you

frigid wedge
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i should really clarify this, i wanna be able to stop casting between packs with 100 (damaging, no unaffected by or immunity) poisons on me

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with tainted pact

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without passing away

proud gorge
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oh, well I mean, you're probably not going to find that in the form of leech

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since that kind of, by definition, requires you to hit things

frigid wedge
pulsar dune
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hm, worm ring + bf of trathus should do it, no?

proud gorge
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oh, you're doing Tainted Pact

frigid wedge
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petrified blood for overleech so the issue is literally just duration

pulsar dune
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it's every 2s, I think leech instances are 4s by default

proud gorge
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worm ring is every 2 seconds, leech lasts 4 seconds iirc

frigid wedge
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fun

teal hare
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So act 10 is just part 1?

proud gorge
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actually, apparently Leech is 5 seconds max by default

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okay so the leech duration math is weird

frigid wedge
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on another note is there a sourcr of reduced dura i can get on gear without ring or ammy

proud gorge
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apparently the way leech actually works is that each instance of leech is spread out over your maximum leech rate, which is by default 2% per second

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so if you would generate a leech equal to or exceeding 10% of your max HP, it gets spread out over 5 seconds, resulting in a 5 second leech

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but if your leech instance would only heal for 4% of your max HP, it would only last for 2 seconds

frigid wedge
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damn

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maybe 8k life isn't doable then

pulsar dune
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I'd be surprised if you didn't cap leech anyway

frigid wedge
steel light
pulsar dune
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ah true

proud gorge
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what's your leech percent?

frigid wedge
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probably not enough

proud gorge
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at 8k life, your leech rate is 160/s, and you'd need each leech to exceed 2 seconds

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so at minimum each leech would have to have a value of at least 320

frigid wedge
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wait is that it?

elder marlin
proud gorge
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with, say, 1% leech, that's a 32,000 damage hit

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but with higher leech percentages, that number goes down

pulsar dune
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life leech support is 110% multi support and gives you 4%

proud gorge
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8000 damage hit then

elder marlin
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i can now proudly say that cws glad can do simu

proud gorge
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well, preferably higher, to give yourself a window

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but 8000 minimum

frigid wedge
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was gonna use coiling

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maybe not

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can't hit comfortable curse dura without dusk if we do this

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thas fine ig

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unless im forgetting a duration source

teal hare
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On act 3 part 1 I get to choose my secondary class?

split maple
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5link gloves maybe

frigid wedge
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yeah but id quite like to use my 6l for my auras

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idk

split maple
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thats why influenced gloves

frigid wedge
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maybe i can manage without

frigid wedge
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doesn't work if i drop the dusk ring without swift affliction

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curse dura is way too long

elder marlin
frigid wedge
elder marlin
silent leaf
elder marlin
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i run coiling with 1s curse

split maple
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oh wait its helmet mod

frigid wedge
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with swift affliction it goes down to this

split maple
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Elder's socketed supported by less duration

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and slap 4l into that

elder marlin
frigid wedge
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im trying to keep my ring slots

undone gazelle
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what all source of red skill dur did you take?

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
frigid wedge
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if im slightly off it can nearly double time to apply curse

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rather have some room to play

elder marlin
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the only other option is foul hh

frigid wedge
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its enough its just not comfortable

split maple
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why not woke swift?

frigid wedge
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and this is elevated less duration helmet instead of 21 23

frigid wedge
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still 25% less

split maple
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eh crapo

frigid wedge
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if there was any dura change that penalty would be decreasing anyway

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other issue with coiling is im not sure if tainted pact actually keeps up

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with full soul eater plus proj gloves

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for forbidden rite

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if it does thats gonna be bloody scary

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oh shit i can half the needed leech

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nice

upbeat silo
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so what shoud i do next?

split maple
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talk to kirac

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in hideout not in town

upbeat silo
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k

frigid wedge
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i was gonna draw attention to signal prey or whatever it is
but like, the watermark

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why do you have signal prey tho

upbeat silo
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? like for my golems

frigid wedge
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why do you want them to be offensive

upbeat silo
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that is bad for them?

frigid wedge
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it means they run at things and are more likely to die

upbeat silo
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i dont know what is signal prey actually do but i put is because saw is in another build

frigid wedge
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and ik that they respawm

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but

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u get downtime on the buffs

frigid wedge
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wouldn't recommend it

upbeat silo
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k i will remove it

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thx

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it will be endless?

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oh wait

fickle glen
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Which ascendancy is most chosen for witch class?

hoary scarab
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yes

upbeat silo
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i got lvl up in my map machine

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is that tree goood for ritual farm?

past mantle
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You want all the explicit mod effect and pack size you can get on top of that.

past mantle
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Even if you're not going for an elemental damage build it's pretty good.

past mantle
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It's bis for phys dot so it's something alright.

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Funky ascendancy.

elder marlin
split maple
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Almost harder to find a build that ele isn't good on than the opposite

fickle glen
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I noticed it has that unique heralds and golems perks, is that a good build to go for?

dreamy charm
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i tried wave of conviction ignite in ssf very good clear but any rare with HP took 2 business days to kills lol

split maple
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Heraldstack pbod ele is one of hottest builds this league so looks like it

fickle glen
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“pbod” means?

split maple
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Penance brand of dissipation

fickle glen
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I’ll look up what that is

split maple
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Prolly comfiest to do pdot ele for a while then respec when you get currency

elder marlin
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this is only 95 points

split maple
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Since I rly wouldn't want to Play that build on under t17 blaster loadout in guide budget

proud gorge
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I mean, it's Penance Brand

split maple
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Not rly, brand is there Just for single target

proud gorge
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I'm sure it can function below that budget, but your clear will just be significantly worse

split maple
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It's autobomber mostly

proud gorge
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I suppose if your main focus is the heralds, then yeah

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you need a pretty decent budget to get heralds to clear by themselves

split maple
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You need hive and clusters

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That's pretty much it

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Hive is Just broken good

proud gorge
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I was looking up some info on heralds a while back, and came across a really old-ass reddit post where people were complaining that Heralds were "dead" because they'd removed their spell damage scaling

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not sure what patch that happened in

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but man, can you imagine Heralds with full spell damage scaling

fickle glen
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Heralds don’t have spell damage still?

split maple
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That was true until like last leg, when angler made very legit hot builds possible

undone gazelle
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this is something i didn't check for after getting my dusk ring, timeclaps and timepiece for fusillade, while my max APS limit went from 6.06 to 10.1 i somehow forgot about sigil's duration even with more duration its only up for 2 seconds...

split maple
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And this league when hive carries

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  • lycia bloodline
proud gorge
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I mean, dual herald autobomber had been a thing for a while

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it was just mostly a clear build with pretty restricted itemization

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and a need to press a button every several seconds

fickle glen
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Btw are golems considered minions? Like do minion perks apply to them?

fickle glen
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Perfect

proud gorge
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Iirc the point when people started talking about HoT autobomber again was whenever Smite came out

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so... 3.4, Delve I think?

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Yeah, Delve

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I don't remember the patch number of most leagues, but I very much remember 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5

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Since that was the master rework leagues

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Funny how over time they basically just scrapped master missions altogether

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Or, I guess, thinking about it, there's functionally four Masters still, but they're named Kirac, Eater, Exarch, and Maven

odd kiln
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Anyone wanna trade in POE 2? /s

Happy New Year Guys. I was going to play FBC but thinking: What would GGG do during new year?

unique silo
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is there a way to trigger vaal skill gems automatically?

frigid wedge
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no

silent leaf
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No

unique silo
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ty

proud gorge
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It's theoretically possible, nothing about Vaal gems prevents it, but every single way to trigger a spell specifies that it excludes vaal skills

split maple
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treetree provideth again and better

idle palm
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I am blind. What map am I missing.

split maple
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top right

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putrid cloister

tranquil sedge
idle palm
split maple
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vaal temple isnt atlas point, is it?

idle palm
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not for me. (i dont think)

tranquil sedge
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its not an atlas point yh afaik

proud gorge
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I mean, the point would be that only maps that are actually on the atlas give atlas points

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So if you can't see it naturally in the map tab, then it doesn't give a point

tranquil sedge
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i get what he means, its a little more effort to double-check that

tranquil sedge
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so its a fair point

tranquil sedge
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ggg really is anti-qol until either:
(a) some other game forces them to implement it
(b) they don't have any good content put out so they try to gaslight the players by drip-feeding qol into the game and pretending it was their plan all along

proud gorge
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Just buy a second map tab exclusively to check the natural maps on smh

proud gorge
tepid dagger
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Best flasks that aint 500d?

heady cliff
proud gorge
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One funny result of PoE1 and 2 sharing accounts and MTX and such is that, to some degree, the games are required to maintain parity. It kind of reminds me of the RS3/OSRS situation

tranquil sedge
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there's no parity in rs3/osrs tho
there's just re-using existing lore/ideas if they're good enough for osrs

heady cliff
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tab affinities + faustus + async trade

tranquil sedge
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just pure poe1 focus, all wat i said is still true

proud gorge
tranquil sedge
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they only add qol when they are absolutely forced to by someone else or some other game, or if they desperately need to keep players happy and they dont have enough content ready

proud gorge
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Which is very funny

tranquil sedge
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osrs features and rs3 features are entirely separate

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there's overlap in names and places and lore and some design choices but that's only coincidence/effort minimization, not deliberate* gameplay design trying for feature parity

proud gorge
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Plus the chats and worlds are all on the same system

tranquil sedge
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i really wanna make an osrs account sometime tbh

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and play on hdos client again

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take it slow, 100% chill, play4fun attitude
maybe an ironman

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enjoy the grind

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lazy afternoons, coffee, kick back with a video and some good old scaping

proud gorge
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It's not huge parity, but my point is that there's some systems that, by nature of using the same exact account in two systems at the same time, which share certain client features, there's some degree of cross-influence despite them running on different engines.

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And the case of PoE1 and 2 is similar because of MTX, because it means that they could never, as a wild example, do away with the belt slot in PoE2, because there's paid MTX that rely on the belt slot existing

tranquil sedge
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i see

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ur right that makes sense

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because there's paid MTX that rely on the belt slot existing
tbh that's probably not the most dealbreaking factor

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like hypothetically they could refund that many coins to everyone who purchased paid belt mtx right, like credit to spend in the store

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(not that ggg would ever do such a thing ofc)

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feel like calling it 'path of exile' 2 limits them even more than that if anything
imagine playing poe and there's no belt slot

proud gorge
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But the belt MTX would still be usable in PoE1, and in fact most belt MTX originated as PoE1 MTX

tranquil sedge
#

oh

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hmm

#

refund or bust i guess
and refund will never happen
yea belts are here to stay kek

subtle forge
#

kinda funny to find out that the Profane Bloom pops can ignite if they have the permissions lol

proud gorge
#

So yeah, while sequels often change or expand mechanics in various ways, the whole "cross-game mtx" thing means thay they're required to keep the exact same item slots and thus MTX slots in poe2 as in poe1

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So no pants slot for PoE2

tranquil sedge
#

poor templar

proud gorge
hard cliff
subtle forge
proud gorge
#

Honestly for all that "secondary damage" sounds like a whole other thing, the main difference between it and non-secondary damage is that secondary damage can't trigger secondary damage itself

#

So you can't reflect reflected damage

subtle forge
#

tfw no reflect-ception memes 😔

proud gorge
#

And hitting with secondary damage won't generally trigger "deal damage when you hit an enemy" things

#

Since otherwise it'd just trigger off itself and instantly kill any enemy from full health

pseudo kindle
#

anyone know what is going on with hideoutshowcase website?

cosmic eagle
#

advance happy new year guys! hoping for good year for poe1 and not another phrecia incident again coz of back to back dogshit releases kek

#

@short prairie advance happy new year noob santachaos

frigid wedge
#

considering 99% of them are like 1c is it worth harvest rolling essences

icy swan
#

40d more than normal version

tawdry olive
#

early in the league they went for about the same, i paid a 2 div premium just to get the foulborn version

icy swan
#

2d sure

#

but 45 rip

frigid wedge
#

why are u even tryna get the foulborn

#

its functionally identical

icy swan
#

not worth also harvest is dead

icy swan
sleek barn
#

thats impressive

tawdry olive
#

i got a good collector's item this league

sleek barn
#

oh thats pretty funny

#

i don't have much

#

i wish it got a vaal implicit

tawdry olive
#

i had a +1 regen fractured sacred chainmail with like 29% quality, too bad i vendored it

#

really should have kept

ebon tendon
#

frame it

tawdry olive
#

aight this is pretty satisfying

#

wait no one of the nodes isn't covered by the LoM, it's over

icy swan
#

dont know whats that

tranquil sedge
split maple
#

Not for vendor

ornate patrol
#

A passive tree inside a passive tree

unique silo
#

can anyone show me how to search for a large cluster jewel that grants me 3 passives. Theres alot of info on the stat filter that its confusing. Tried to use pathofcrafting and that was even more confusing

tawdry olive
frigid wedge
shrewd canopy
#

can anyone explain how rarity works in a party?

heady cliff
#

3.28 content update - you now allocate your tree inside a galaxyBrainSkill representation

shrewd canopy
#

is it the person who kills the monster gets the roll

sage falcon
split maple
#

gravebind helps

sage falcon
#

yeah

frigid wedge
unique silo
tranquil sedge
#

they can cook without your help

#

don't do this D:

tranquil sedge
#

(after i figure out how it works) that was straightforward nice

frigid wedge
#

theres no way u havent seen that before

tranquil sedge
#

i haven't 😄

opal ingot
#

in my dreams i saw the legacy of phrecia

jagged raven
#

finally the tree blessed me with divine

unique silo
coarse relic
#

i have never played path of exile
i wanted to try it
before i do can someone tell me is the movement click based like runescape

tranquil sedge
#

yes but you can rebind to any key you want including a keyboard so then its point and hold a key to actually move

coarse relic
#

can i use wasd to move

tranquil sedge
#

also point and click is less bad than it sounds like coz u have to click for literally everything anyway
interact with npc, pick up loot, etc.

#

no, not in poe1
only in poe2

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and no, we don't know if or when poe1 will get it

coarse relic
#

thanks

tranquil sedge
#

np gl

heady cliff
#

wasd is only a huge qol on archers from my limited testing

tranquil sedge
#

my normal keybinds on ANY build are
lmb = walk/move
rmb = movement skill
spacebar = walk/move
w = main attack skill

#

its wat i found to reduce as much strain when playing as possible

heady cliff
#

and yeah, left click movement solves 80% of the issues compared to wasd

opal ingot
#

i just know it

#

i wont need a movement skill when wasd comes out

blissful zodiac
#

This generation is so cooked. Why are we making fun of an innocent man who spread his own opinions freely. He doesn't deserve what happen to him. He is just spreading knowledge to young generation. RIP King Von u will always be loved @tranquil sedge

heady cliff
blissful zodiac
#

100% did not read it lmao

vocal pike
#

luck was with me this morning.

icy swan
#

thye should make leage 1-2months long

tranquil sedge
#

not anymore

dreamy charm
#

i mean rushing leagues would mean that they will be bad/lacking content id rather have a banger leauge every 4 months

tranquil sedge
#

was unlikely at best before

#

a certain impossibility now

tranquil sedge
#

thats a lot of numbers for one sentence lmao

split maple
#

4months feels allright

tranquil sedge
#

yea its nb

split maple
#

like 3month is a tad stressful if you want to get to proper gear in ssf

tranquil sedge
#

mm, 4 is enough to play a trade cycle and still have time for ssf if u wanted

#

or to really grind for 4 in ssf

icy swan
split maple
#

tell that to my job and kid

icy swan
#

but yeah 4 is fine, just more events or something in middle i gues

split maple
#

but yea if you have time and do trade ig 2 weeks is enough for league

#

gauntlet would feel nice

heady cliff
#

which is definitely not the case atm

nova minnow
#

god dang, cant get cannot be poisoned

#

did get this, which is nice

split maple
#

why aint you doing that on magic rings tho

nova minnow
#

coz im too poor to beastcraft. i can only pick up more unsets

#

got some other non essence worms too but not what im looking for

elfin shale
#

Huh, how do you make those?

brazen vector
#

gilded implicit vaal

elfin shale
#

Neat

nova minnow
#

I go through like 16 unset rings for 1 usable corrupt and i fail the tainted mythic like half the time?

#

and then if the tainted mythic goes through, i need essence worm, not ring of submission/voideye

split maple
#

ngl if it rolls bis corrupt (cannot be poisoned?) i would rly beastlock for mythic

tranquil sedge
split maple
#

yea

tranquil sedge
#

wat

#

hinekora too?

split maple
#

dunno for hinekora, beastlock yea

tranquil sedge
#

TIL

split maple
#

folks printed +pc willclash last leg for fross that way 😄

#

and its handy for these blood sacrament rings

tranquil sedge
#

i see 😮

unique silo
#

is this worth anything?

split maple
#

11passive is worthless by default

#

you rly want either 8p with 3 notables (2notables rare few exceptions and not on this base) or 12p without notables and with 35% effect

tranquil sedge
#

^

#

those might not be terrible notable rolls, maybe there's some value in prowess + defence idk, but having them on 11 passive base removes their value by default

tranquil sedge
#

cluster jewels for a first craft is definitely diving off the high board right off the bat

#

but yea need to start on a better base

unique silo
tranquil sedge
#

that's fine
just pick better base next time

#

nothing stops u using this btw

unique silo
#

base ?

tranquil sedge
#

its just that it will use more passive points

tranquil sedge
# unique silo base ?

the 'base' item - a large cluster with X passive skills where added passive skills grant Y

#

in ur case 11 passive, attack damage while shield large cluster jewel base

unique silo
#

ohhh

#

alright tyvm

#

so which one here is good base?

split maple
#

first one is alright

tranquil sedge
split maple
#

for that one a good craft is harvest reforge life until primordial bond and inback notable

tranquil sedge
#

enchant added small passive skills grant

#

and then select the thing they do

#

e.g. attack damage while holding shield

split maple
#

why you looking for ilvl85 tho

elder marlin
unique silo
#

like that?

elder marlin
elder marlin
unique silo
elder marlin
unique silo
#

these ones good?

elder marlin
split maple
#

set max=8 in your adds # line

tranquil sedge
normal hedge
#

you want 8 passives for large if 3 notables, 12p if 35% inc effect, 4 or 5p if medium with 2 notables

tranquil sedge
#

fill in the number rilay said ^

elder marlin
#

What is ur goal atm

normal hedge
#

i've never seen anyone using 6

elder marlin
#

Seen that once

tranquil sedge
normal hedge
#

i see

elder marlin
#

I think @opaque sphinx use it

#

I might be misremembering tho

tranquil sedge
#

@unique silo
cluster jewel crafting is difficult because you have to keep track of a lot of things at once

  • what mods are best, and what you can settle on
  • what item levels those roll at, to pick an base with appropriate item level to exclude as many other mods as you can
  • then the pain of actually crafting them, fossils or harvest or spamming orbs or bestiary, it's not always straightforward what's best and even that can be tiring to do
  • not to mention if you profitcraft clusters u can't just make one you have to make many and sell whenever you hit an appropriate settle moment, so upfront capital to buy bases and crafting resources
#

if u wanna get started crafting, almost anything else would be easier than cluster jewels and normal jewels too maybe ngl

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

yea i was debating if that was worth throwing in

split maple
#

normal jewels are pain in the ass if you want smh specific

tranquil sedge
quasi harbor
#

Happy New years!!!!!!!!!!!

split maple
#

like sure life and res and smh is easy

elder marlin
split maple
#

life/es and dbl crit multi?

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
split maple
#

tho some larges are also pain

#

like them cws fire ones

#

and sadist clusters -.- these i refuse to touch without frac orb

unique silo
split maple
normal hedge
#

theres a chaos dmg cluster that is really bad to craft

#

lost my mind this league

split maple
#

and yeah this one is hellhole

elder marlin
unique silo
tranquil sedge
#

and also read what i wrote about having to craft many jewels at a time to profit on clusters?

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

you picked one that's particularly hard to craft

#

people making that will make many jewels and keep selling anything that hits 'okay' mods to keep funding the rest of the crafting

#

and then when they make the big ones, they make $$

#

those 3 mods - i think there are one or two other less good but still okay notables?

split maple
#

the easiest way to make that chaos cluster is to make and sell enough primordial bond clusters then buy it

tranquil sedge
#

so 'settle' moment would be including those other mods in the possible jewels u make too

unique silo
tranquil sedge
#

im not going to keep re-typing the same things so many times

tranquil sedge
#

and crafting is not the only way to make money in this game

#

anyone who thinks that is stupid

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

even more especially when that league is effectively dead playercount-wise

tranquil sedge
#

and just buy clusters

#

99% of the time its just easier to buy a finished one than make it yourself

split maple
#

the state of crafting this league

normal hedge
#

_l-7P = n

tranquil sedge
#

lmao

frigid wedge
#

state of ssf

#

🌳

tranquil sedge
unique silo
ocean leaf
#

How significant is +10-20 to phys attacks against you? Its on a ring i want...

frigid wedge
#

not very

normal hedge
#

thats nothing

tranquil sedge
elder marlin
frigid wedge
#

unless ur phys max hit is like 1k ur fine

split maple
#

Aint these chaos clusters fossil into ex annul pain

#

Or even frac first

normal hedge
split maple
#

Specially with how cheapo fracs are this leg

tranquil sedge
split maple
#

I optimistically pobed that at legstart before checking coe

#

Needless to say I am now playing lightning convert instead of chaos

unique silo
split maple
#

Prolly the worst chaos cluster by weight kek

elder marlin
mystic socket
#

https://pobb.in/lKb5aTn9sBFW

need a little help with theorycrafting this thats why im not dropping it in build help
just looking to squeeze out more damage and life

split maple
#

like i dont even want it 😄

unique silo
#

I show you two methods to easily and cheaply craft your own Cluster Jewels in path of exile.
Alt + Regal
Yellow Lifeforce
When you farm it yourself (which is pretty easy) you can make big profits with this.

00:00 Intro
00:22 Two Methods of crafting
00:46 Cluster Jewel Base Prefix and Suffix
03:33 Alt + Regal
10:31 Yellow Lifeforce
14:31 Outro

▶ Play video
tranquil sedge
frigid wedge
ocean leaf
mystic socket
tranquil sedge
#

awakened multi is only 120d or something lol

mystic socket
#

theres not much expensive shit

#

like gloves and mageblood and thats basically it

#

i have progen

tranquil sedge
#

meanwhile ur putting a +1 frenzy and attack crit celestial brace

mystic socket
#

yeah lol

normal hedge
#

i dont even think these gloves are selling rn

#

lol

tranquil sedge
#

and that is a big boy warlord axe

mystic socket
#

yeah theres that...

#

i put t3 hybrid i think tho

#

thats the only actually difficult one to get

tranquil sedge
#

that is one hell of a settle helmet in comparison to the rest of the gear holy moly

#

and the body armor could easily be some useful double corrupt

mystic socket
#

there was something i didnt know what mods to put on

#

it mightve been the helm

tranquil sedge
#

you are only using a single aura, precision?

#

why not use sublime vision?

mystic socket
#

yeah i really didnt wanna do that

#

i cant

tranquil sedge
#

you're clearly struggling to raise crit chance
that should help

mystic socket
#

deli bloodline

tranquil sedge
#

o?

mystic socket
#

its not passage

#

thats why only using clusters and thread and impossible escape

#

i just dont have enough life on my tree but i also dont realy know what to move around

#

ive never been good at theorycrafting so this was pretty big for me

tranquil sedge
#

that's a disgustingly high max hit tho for phys lmao

mystic socket
#

yeah

#

doppelganger, 6 (i think) endurance charges, 36 fortify, adrenaline, 2x uulgrafts for 6% pdr, 40% less dmg taken from deli bloodline

#

then pb and progen

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

woke multistrke is 100% the next upgrade if i had a build that looked like this

mystic socket
#

damage mainly

elder marlin
#

If u can id consider defiance

tranquil sedge
#

~10% more dps and reduced mana cost per second to boot, no question i'd want that

mystic socket
#

10m dps is alright but could do better

#

im sure dropping adrenaline and going for impale on ascendancy is good damage but its also some nice pdr and speed

elder marlin
mystic socket
#

so woke multistrike puts me up to 11.7m

#

i think life is kinda an issue tho just because pb

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
#

also

#

why despot axe

mystic socket
#

someone tokld me to

tranquil sedge
#

fleshripper shows ~21% higher dps in pob but worse attack speed

#

is that tradeoff worth it?

mystic socket
#

i mean i need high attack speed to proc regen

frigid wedge
#

fleshripper fixes crit

ocean leaf
tranquil sedge
mystic socket
#

since boneshatter hits me i regen a fuckton

#

from doppelganger

#

how much does it reduce my attack speed

tranquil sedge
#

copying mods from ur existing axe onto the new item

mystic socket
#

negligibly

#

yeah that fine

tranquil sedge
#

15% isn't negligible but you gain damage out of it so maybe worth it idk

#

i haven't played boneshatter

mystic socket
#

well im at 5.51

tranquil sedge
#

dps is nice but build feel is important too

mystic socket
#

so its not the end of the world

split maple
#

Can you even use 2x same graft

mystic socket
#

i thought so

elder marlin
frigid wedge
#

they share cd

mystic socket
#

not a problem if i cant tho

#

ok

frigid wedge
#

iirc

split maple
#

I think you cannot even equip same ones

mystic socket
#

i just lose 3% pdr

split maple
#

Was a while since I tried

elder marlin
tranquil sedge
# mystic socket well im at 5.51

this depends very much on the build
e.g. zenith barely feels okay at 5-6 aps lol
and u want to hit 8-9+ if u can to make it feel a lot nicer (also costs $$$)

#

is why im asking if 4.7 aps would be enough to make boneshatter of complex feel good

frigid wedge
#

get a jolting eshgraft with crit chance per jolt, u get extra attack damage(large) and extra xrit chance but take like 10% inc damage

mystic socket
#

i think its fine

tranquil sedge
#

he can afford to take damage
what sans said then ^

mystic socket
#

yes

tranquil sedge
#

not my pob its his
and he linked it above

mystic socket
#

since pb will put me at low life

#

the flask is basically a resetter

elder marlin
mystic socket
#

to pull out of lowlife and then go back in

tranquil sedge
#

i dont think you require a life flask

frigid wedge
#

if ur gonna go pet blood either commit or get master surgeon man

tranquil sedge
#

replace it with something else

mystic socket
#

im champ

mystic socket
#

life removal

frigid wedge
#

so commit to the petrified blood

#

or remove it

tranquil sedge
#

(also dont settle on 20/20 pb, get a 21/20, no reason to settle when ur budget is $$$)

normal hedge
#

oh u're capping suppress with conditional uptime

mystic socket
#

hm?

normal hedge
#

courage

#

thats bad imo

elder marlin
#

15% less phys is not nothing

frigid wedge
#

go bannners

mystic socket
#

tbh i hadnt finished my gems

#

it was like 1am last night and i wanted to go to bed

#

theres a banner that helps with impale too right

frigid wedge
#

idk but ur champ

elder marlin
frigid wedge
#

and blazar fixes everything w them

mystic socket
#

i didnt grab banner node

frigid wedge
#

so take it

#

ur debating bloodlines

mystic socket
#

and drop what

#

im not

#

im pretty set on deli

elfin shale
#

Is there anything besides Slayer with this stat

tranquil sedge
#

happy new year in advance ppl im gonna go to bed

#

gl theorycrafting

elder marlin
normal hedge
mystic socket
elder marlin
mystic socket
#

gn man happy new year

elfin shale
#

Finally found a use for Arsenal of Vengeance god bless

lean urchin
#

which is?

#

just taunt? lol

elfin shale
#

Woespike in a build that can actually clear

#

I mean its always been clear what it's purpose was, retaliates without block, but before Woespike i dont think any builds really used retaliates that werent specific retaliate builds

frigid wedge
#

isn't that only useful for bossing

elfin shale
#

Only if you do the Crushing Fist + Perforate of Duality shit, its fine for mapping if you use literally any other skill than perforate

frigid wedge
#

was gonna say

#

bc u still dont need it for bossing setups

#

u can just use fr and vengeful cry for bosses to trigger this

elfin shale
#

My build is absolutely hamstrung for passive points rn and its all my fault admittedly

tepid dagger
#

I need good flasks, recommendations?

young olive
#

cant remove this right ?

mystic socket
#

that depends on your build and defenses

elfin shale
#

Wait is that the 1 trialmaster door

frigid wedge
#

wait does monastery bell work with retaliation

#

could u weapon swap into bell

#

and use sst

#

and the swap to retal

tepid dagger
tepid dagger
tepid dagger
frigid wedge
#

rolling them is cheaper than buying them

shadow kindle
#

🎆 Happy New Year.
May this one be lighter, kinder, and full of small wins that actually matter ✨🥂

silent leaf
#

IM COLLECTING THEM ALL

hoary scarab
#

sick

normal hedge
tepid dagger
split maple
#

then move your mouse to orb of alternation and/or orb of augmentation

loud geyser
#

happy new year yalls

split maple
#

click that, then slowly move mouse to flask

#

if holding shift no need to repeat moving mouse around! very good trick

#

click flask

#

repeat until happy

frigid wedge
obtuse prism
#

Anyone have trouble switching from fullscreen to windowed fullscreen? idk how it got swapped back to fullscreen, but everytime I tried to confirm the switch, it would freak my client out and then freeze until it autoreverted. Managed to get it fixed by switching to windowed first, then windowed fullscreen, but curious if this happened to anyone else

bright viper
#

Or in the menus

obtuse prism
#

both, it didn't cause rampant graphical glitches in menus, but still froze until it reverted when trying to go directly fullscreen > windowed fullscreen

bright viper
#

Oh interesting

#

Atleast you got it working

obtuse prism
#

yeah, classic workaround, just had to tinker a bit

#

curious if I'm special or if this is known though

rancid sluice
#

yeah we will be special together this just started happening to me today too - ive noticed sometimes when i ctrl + alt + d to hold awakened window open it likes to bug out and force my windowed full to full. just ctrl + d doesnt seem to do it. dont really know if its tied to it or just coincidence

hard cliff
#

IT HAPPENED TO ME

#

🎺🐖

#

DOOO DOO DOOOO DOOOO

rancid sluice
#

naw its way too random for that havent been able to nail it down yet but never experienced it prior but like three times already today its done it. worse case screen locks up and it recovers, maybe you are dead. otherwise it will boot you clear out to login

frigid wedge
#

i fucking hate this league

#

jfc

plucky bramble
#

can GGG fix the servers?

frigid wedge
#

no

clear summit
#

Errrrm, noon question. I have 50% chance to block on shield yet my block chance is somehow 42% than I equipped a jewel with chance to block spell damage while holding a shield and my spell block chance didn’t go up at all

split maple
#

Post a pob

hard cliff
tough schooner
#

happy new years eve everyone

hard cliff
#

daaaaamn

frigid wedge
pulsar dune
frigid wedge
#

theres fucking nothing to do

#

and the 1 thing that there is to do

#

is completely devalued

#

by the fact everyone runs

#

the same damn atlas

#

i cant do this shit today

#

i try a thing, it actually drops a nice amount of shit

#

it feels good

#

costs 12d to open the map

#

i try smth more affordable

#

its profit

#

its 20c profit

#

it takes 5 minutes

#

why

#

why

#

is there

#

nothing

#

fun

#

to do

#

that isnt

#

a

#

fucking

#

tile

normal hedge
#

mods ban that bot

hard cliff
#

@frigid wedge

#

yeah so true

hoary scarab
#

skill issued

frigid wedge
#

oh? beasts is good still? WRONG, SOMEONE MADE A BOT THAT AUTO RUNS BEASTS AND DROPPED IT THIS LEAGUE SO THATS NOT WORTH IT

#

so now all of them are a third of the price

#

you wanna run essence?

#

no one gonna buy them

#

because everyone decided week 2 was endleague

#

so no one using them is around

sage falcon
#

ok

slate hemlock
#

What do the red lines on path of builder 2 mean on the skill tree

normal hedge
#

it means you're asking a poe2 question in a poe1 channel

barren river
#

🚨

slate hemlock
#

Ahh got it ty

normal hedge
#

( its weapon swap )

short prairie
#

Happy new year guys

#

Although my time zone is last to new year

normal hedge
#

happy new year senses

#

hope you dont play rf in 2026!

short prairie
#

😂 lol

#

I’ll flicker then

normal hedge
#

i'll flicker the

unique silo
#

Happy new year mfs

barren river
barren river
unique silo
short prairie
mild apex
#

for a new player in POE1 what classes would be good and affordable to finish the pass quickly?

thick goblet
odd fox
#

50 million milliseconds

mild apex
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ty I'll take a look at some videos to see if my playstyle 🙂

stuck phoenix
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It's less about class and more about build

mild apex
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right forgot about that haha