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ballista delay
ballista arm speed
scourge arrow charge
scourge arrow fire
pods explode
pods return proj
40% totem placement speed mandatory to almost reach the same speed of placement
Sadly can't show the build I'm using. On my way to the Drago..... Horses
Damn
Its not hard to get to 0.36s placement speed
since its just 30% on tree bottom right
and 10% from 20 qual
but getting over that means you need the quiver
and you also need proj speed from quiver
and cdotm and dotm
Mhhh interesting. Imma lookie when I get home
crafting this is not fun
Ballista/totem still is still a new field for me. Tho it's fun to go block on those and just tank shit
Umf. Yeah, ain't looking fun
you can turret down with the right setup
the suffix pressure is insane y high tho
Tbh the ballista placement speed wasn't really an issue
well you do run arctic armour + frost shield + purity of ice
they nerfed it so it was for any non hiero
Rip
Damn
old is .35
but placement speed also buffs activation speed
so its faster in a different way
ngl
i recommend checking deathbeams pathfinder scourge arrow on forums
this is the first league i've played totems in a while
if you want more deets
Reminds me. I need to craft more shaper shields for +1 totem. So I have enough for the corrupt
mine is just a shoddy copy
i don't remember them dying so much in the past lmao
they nerfed its hp values at some point
like all ubers im just spamming totems
hell i was even doing hivemind spamming yesterday for breach ring
they'd rinse my totems
I have only had problem with Ubers. Killing them, or all generals from legion. Going mad man on them
also this league has continued to cement for me that death rush might be my favourite unique
I wanted to level with trathus ballista and it was so clunky
rares are worse for ballista than ubers
Perfect skill for uly
btw, companionship support op op for solo AG setups
actually crazy how relaxing this is
I was tempted to see what other skills, that work well with the ballista setup
lowkey not many
i cant remember what patch it was
but they zoinked totems a while ago whenever that shit with shockwave was popping off
in most cases self using a skill is the play
yea its not a good map
TRUE
why dont you slam coiling with the new vaal orb to get the curse duration down to 0,7 on the ring?
that doesnt work
unscalable modifier with no range
jesse plemons no nominations for bugonia btw
why didnt you ping me sooner
lmao
kekw
plemons should, he stole the performance
overall sinners and michael b jordan dont deserve the acclaim it got
yeah not as much as it got
both u and uly peeped this and neither of u saw my blunder
check my puncture links
double vicious lol
enclose.horse Day 77
π PERFECT! π 100%
why do u have no quality on puncture btw
also get MFA + ensnaring arrows @boreal yarrow
why you no kill saresh yet
pim getting buttfucked by t12s
what the FUCK!
dead skill
which is what I didn't really understand with these pobs not taking gladiator f/f jewels, because the only source of aggravate is the 10% on the node
which sounds like it would be awful
its fake dps
oh wait i dont have aggrevate anymore
you have 10% on bloodletting no?
ye im waiting to get replica farruls first
or you just play bleed slams
then ill get enlighten
I dislike the way bleeds are now
The cheeser
theyre best theyve been
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so many people playing bleed sunder
I didn't say they were bad dps wise
I just said I don't like the way they are, using volatility so you're constantly overwriting your bleed that you then need to aggravate and unless you're glad sources of aggravate are low, and bleed often has snail like attack speed
-11c
You'll never recover
My order arrived π
jejw
3xcheaper wines for hot sake.
And 3 high quality bottles for cold consumption
I do order that sometimes too
But I wanted sake, and I never had heated up sake before, even bought myself a heating set
woah microwaved sake
@amber phoenix that zzz yada song has been stuck in my head since the other day when you linked it

Waterbath heated with a candle
Or kept warm with one I suppose
snazy
remember when this game was a competitor for a little while lol
Ah, work is indeed torture not being able to play poe but want to, not that I do much at work, mostly resting my wrists and eyes but goddamn
@rigid geode getmeout

hazbullah
Seasonal arpgs don't have users in off seasons?
Color me surprised
I think about good watchers eye today
You didn't hear what happened with last epoch?
People will play when there's new content anyway
Anyway lunch
It got sold off to one of those corpos that stuffs mtx in things and barely updates it
for some reason I have a habit of getting into enshittified/never finished arpgs. Wolcen, last epoch, hero siege for example

but during their popular phases
Lol what a cursed setup
Overexerts 2026
so those rare monsters
overexertion
@muted igloo how tf is smite an exertable skill likes slam xdd?
its not
People hit with for hundred times per 4 sec
@hexed jolt yknow acceleration shrine would be nice to own
would be
how much is it now
I haven't seen overexerts used on it
ye not mapping just cleaning stash in between meetings
Not in others hideout
Hits 3.5 times xdd
Each hit for 15 mil roughly
lmao i called that didn't i
chalamet not winning actor is very funny also
that was the movie he was basically using as a vehicle for an oscar
WAIT IT DIDN'T WIN ANYTHING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Who do you call, ghost busters
yeah thats the crazy part
that's funny as fuck
@vale drift are you no longer hibernating btw
to be honest
my take is
1 battle after another deserved awards
marty supreme deserved maybe directing
maybe
frankenstein deserved the awards it got, I was pleasantly surprised
eeeh i don't think there's that many standout scenes deserving director oscar in it
michael b jordan DEFINITELY didnt deserve the best actor
i haven't seen sinners which i think means i'm racist
him acting two characters was pointless
honestly not a great crop of best actor candidates this year
thats because there aren o more movies coming out
since 2012
disappointed that emma stone didn't win actress but buckley is usually good so she probably deserved it i guess
i have to watch it still
heard many good things
good movie with a divisive ending
fiancee says she'd pick train dreams for directing
apparently great shots in that movie
i'd have picked sinners twice if i could
plemons
deserved best actor
but he wasnt even nominated
xd
once again
academy has no balls
not even recognising pcw or no other choice
and only 1 nom for bugonia
sean penn didnt come on stage
he would say racist shit and they didnt want the bafta situation again
[*]
bebela
the fuck is a bebela

who tf is marty and why he wears supreme
anyways
he hit the ball good

Reminds me of old bee filter stuff
It's the same issue poe2 has with ex, though not quite as bad yet, I hope ggg comes up with proper chaos sinks by next league
I wish they balanced around ssf
Almost like we had one
That was 2017 and he was already ahead of the curve by removing chaos orbs later into league
Time spent picking up is time wasted

Maybe allow that one expedition guy to trade with chaos or smth
oh no honse

I'd like to see the tiered currency from poe2 in one actually, outaide of the pricing issues, it's just... nice
Though that might be too steong on top of existinf crafting systems
that hom gamba will understand
beauty lies in eyes of the beholder
in short stop bitchin'
tbh now they have the 4 month cycle
they are probably balancing around 4 months and not 3 months now
Whats up my fav nolifer
for the atlas node
they seem to abandon poe1 in 1-2 weeks
nice
I dropped ten imbued coins ib the week I played
Yeah
They drop at an okay rate, and it's not like they're too expenaive
i mean they rate they drop at currently is shit for a temp league
black baryas are for alch and go so yeah
you meet the faridun near mirage entrance
unique one
1 in 20/40 so maps
I disagree, drop rates are perfectly fine
not even mentioning rust
i mean i've literally seen like
12 total and have played the entire week on GSF
kinda scuffed
yes
i mean yes lol
They're not that expensive anyways
ssf
okay but that's not the problem
Yeah ssf is self inflicted
eggscuse moi
The best closing argument
Oh it went down in price
I mean, game's never gonna be balanced around ssf
You're expected to find and trade currency for what you need
Fire resist πͺ
i mean its overall a shit game argument then
youre not expected to interact with the game
just buy what you need to skip it
got farrul's and hubris
No actually
No, you find other stuff, and use that to exchange
But legion drops them in incubators
Knowledge is power

Wanna earn more money at job then be a brown noser
Oh, I saw them on the market but didn't buy any yet
If you're fine then don't
How much are those incubators?
poe1 view on ssf is always jokes
Ask remi or tsu they drop thousands of them
its funny
but what can i say
want to get x from mechanic x? how dare you
go do something completely different to get it
these are the same people that turned the game from HC focused to softcore trade focused
cause game is balanced around that
well it caters to more people innit
I'm all for differebt balancing in ssf, but they'd have to change how character migration works then
Why completely
Youre wrong and you know it
okay hucu
Incub drops from influenced legion by mirage
me when the base game should be better
Too much loot would just make the market shit
Dont know meaning of word i think
Which was pretty based
They do.. M
also why only legion
They do
it's not only legion
i found only like 3 coins
it's from the purple mobs you "reveal" in the mirage
You do legion variant of mirage
Good understanding of the game
just legion is the most effective way to farm them on SSF because they drop more often
Not a noob

Mirage is about enhancing other mechanics, so you gotta interact with those
legion is the only one that drops coins
Why are there chests at all then
yeah mirage is a sick league
outside of base mirage
And the wish for x
enhances everything else
wont get it tho
afaik they don't from regular legion
Then farm legion? You got 3 atlas trees, use them
only legion in the mirage
Yeah outside poe everything needs more work thats reality
They're not too common from legion either
but yeah
Found more coins than coin incubs
hence arbitrary
the djinn chests suck ass
Funny we discovering something that was known 10 days ago
what does legion drop in mirage
And creates zero problem
outside the coin incubators
Cause people like legion
We knew chests sucked ass
like breach gives you the foulborn mirage uniques
And wishes did nothing
Like lul
You do delirium to get clusters
ngl the wishes for mirage
I buy clusters from tujen
kinda suck ass
1/20 barya boss pogga
Everyone needs clusters everyone needs imbue gems
also the mirage boss was so easy and boring
the initial premise made the wishes seem like you'd be getting a scourge like mechanic
Legion so happens to be best for it
like what was the point of the outer circle
when you can just stand on the stairs the whole time
I do agree that wishes are a bit lackluster, outside of 100% currency and 2 extra modifers
100% currency never seemed to do anything
They said on podcast boss made easy so noobs can not get oneshot
havent noticed 100% more currency being impactful
It works very well with blight
Haven't even seen the wish for boss yet
but they're quite happy to leach the breach boss in that state?
Rough balance sure but yeah
ecks dee
Or he's so easy I didn't realize
And it doublrs harvest crops
@timber karma @terse pawn holy whaling
it's 1/20 chance when the mirage actually covers the boss area
the boss can also randomly spawn outside of mirages
(this is a buff)
Hence city square since boss in middle
Makes sense then
i've seen the boss randomly once in mirage
I had 10+ Wish for rust times
ive seen him more outside of mirages than inside
I've had him decently often in strand now
funds have been recovered
mechanically he spawns outside and with wish inside
mechanically the league sucks
baryas go for divine so its stonks
i am also still trying to understand why kirac was removed
nah it doesnt
and why doesnt bro stock more than 1 scarab at a time
The league is fucking amazing, you're just refusing to interact with it properly
the league is fucking amazing?
first league thats actually so interesting
mirage is awesome
it just lets ytou run the same map twice
basegame balance is kinda fucked though
yes you get the same map twice, much fun
and economy too
You just said you don't want to do legion, and complained about lack of imbued before
very new
it's about as good as some other juicer leagues
i didnt say i dont want to do legions
not same map holy fk
(i dont, but i didnt say it)
i said week ago ill say it again
i also did my fair share of legions
wait arent deadly ailments killing my leech
mirage the mechanic is boring
I mean master has never been positive about any league mechanic or league, whats the big news
Listen, if you're not enjoying it, just play something else
the wishes and chests, the mirage mechanic's core, is boring
i believe joey got wrong opinion on it but i got him ignored so who cares
rest liking it so far
its easy to be negative nancy ig
i say positive stuff about the positive aspects
I fucking love this league, the mechanic is giga fun. I love doing blight, ritual, breach
man I dont wanna relevel
but the negatives get y'all riled up for some reason lmao
Why did you stop playing then
I might actually do some legikn next, sounds fun
is uuuuh
what does that mean pol
I tolerate the league it's mid at best
makes no sense
i stuck around so far, means im not having fun
Survivorship bias
clearly

No clue, but that's what the image is about
they couldnt survive mirage
the joke is the only people who are pogging about poe in here are the same people that pog about every league

is foulborn doedres still the best way to level or was that nerfed somehow
surprised i havent seen a retention thread for this league ngl
What parts of the plane would you reinforce?
It's good
they couldnt survive gas prices lmao
what level can u put it on?
mate
retention is only for when league bad
played wrong game then
so they can feel better about not liking it
fps player tries arpg
the ring from breach is crazy for leveling
Sub 40 or so
ouch ouchie
WELL NEITHER CAN I
nice
the league is very rewarding
bigbig
I wonder if they'll actually touch chests or wished tho
it doesnt mean the mechanic is good and fun
sanctum moment
But probably not it's after week 1
basically lmao
prob not
trade has a billion currency on it right now
@tranquil aurora u got some mapping footage?
this league is very much sanctum coded
of da build?
there's a lot of pain points with the league mechanic but overall it's good
i'd imagine they're basically done now
chests are the main one
sanctum was trash for 1 or 2 builds tho
after an entire week of server issues
this league has the worst retention since archnemesis.
havent recorded anything
I just dont get it man why cant they ever make chests worth it without them shitting out hinekora's locks
ill make some later
sanctum was shit for a lot of builds yes
record sum for me pookie
there has to be a balance
i got some mapping footage uly
where are you seeing the chart for this
was and still is
i forgot the website

nothing changed about it
Sanctum is the worst
How can that be
sanctum has always been dogshit mechanically
all those people playing wrong, clearly
Everyone is having fun
interesting
Nobody dislikes it
people just tolerated it because it shat out currency
yep, people only enjoyed it cause it was rewarding af
The difference here is that any build can run this, and nobody feels forced to run it
what the helly
servers shitting themselves day 2-3 didnt help I'm sure lol
poe 2 player bases eggsdee
whatever faust said but unironic
any build can run mirage because the mechanic is identical to what you already had in your map
ok lunchs over
that shit was ongoing for an entire week
low cortisol
the mirage itself does nothing gameplay wise
was fine for me after day 4
and the boss is a joke
i stopped playing for like 3 days
its just a copy paste of your map
what league does
because of how shit it has been
So unironic that people need to hop on and defend wishes for the league to be even more fun
the atlas changes are nice

I don't know man, I'm really enjoying it
You enjoy anything poe
what league does that enhances other contents
It's a perfect league for me
The bar is pretty low
can you not have this discussion again
so it's the worst parts of scourge and keepers smushed together 
theres a flaw in youe argument to say that content inside mirages are same
That is a lie, I fucking hated mercenary league
how though
and the areas look like synthesis a bit, minus the zana dialogues(you get some weirdo yelling instead)
That was the most boring shit I ever played
mercenary was way more unique than mirage
My bar is huge tho
Copium bar
merc had better juicing strats too
Correct
Like id not play last epoch or grim dawn or diablo now
so the game was technically the same if not better
was it fun? not really
What copium bar
more unique tho
Youd say any shit to prove yourself
You wouldn't play diablo? Color me shocked
So id say shit to prove myself
Lmao
I play better arpgs
Settlers was also kinda meh, but I had fun because I did retaliation
It makes sense to me, sorry
One day I'll be as cool as you
Copium bar
And I dropped tona of svaalins
Sadly I still play what's fun
I didnt ask
Lol
your fun is clearly wrong
Low sodium indeed
Just stop being ironic poss
Look at the foaming
faust having fun the wrong way
man cant believe lepoch went the way it did
What
they were on the cusp of the cook
also so far nobody has said that you arent allowed to enjoy it
I quote you
dont they have an update soon
I did @crisp raven
In any case, I'm just enjoying myself currently, eating this league cake, while I wait for the next one to finish baking
you can enjoy it and it can still suck
high cortisol chat
yeah but it wont solve anything wrong with the game
Hucu may never have fun I sentence him to be salty forever
like me and sanctum
Who talk you talking with
Im confused
oh 26th for lepoc
The spell has been cast
very funny take tbh
Counterspell blocked too
hey i gave an example of enjoying something bad
lazy logic moment
I hope lepoch gets better, I like that game but updates felt lacklister
objectively sanctum is very boring and bland
and uh, barya farming
Im in prison this week too π
π₯ ok ill rush to elp ya
Probably wont touch poe until thursday
2 monsters
same with heist
seems squarely middle of the pack
crazy how the only bad league listed here is necro!
I feel they could've done better at picking colors

what a streak
you say crazy
Then again retention doesn't matter anyway
the blue line isn't even there
these charts suck af cause standalone not with it
god dont get me starterd
necro was so fucking shit
time for glasses lad
but yea realistically game fast you do everything and your league goals, take week off etc
ngl necro was sick
wasnt
want to see an arpg with bad retention just look at wolcen
the mechanic was tedious as fuck
120k peak, 35 concurrent
most insane strats with meatsacks
i ignored it completely
was pogga
ancestor being highest should be the immediate proof that retention charts have absolutely no correlation to league quality
necro could have been awesome if it was like the genesis tree but it was actually atrocious
oh lol you're right I was looking in the middle forgot its only 2 weeks old
or well highest at the end
One day they'll learn ux matters
lol
I believe
Its harvest ux with the awful downside of no guarantee crafts + trading.
REAL
this and necro were SO trash
I guarantee if necrapolis came AFTER trade stashes necro would see HIGHER rates
ancestor was so flawed lol
I had a relative amount of fun because ice nova was fucking awesome but I had 0 desire to do another char
the longer you played it the less you could do the mechanic
Thats not the leeg being fun
I believe necro is the only league ever where I maxed out a single char and quit?
Thats poe at its core still being good game
arguably tota had the funniest outcome for endgame stuff though
uh, money
lmao
Why else did Keepers see record fucking highs
tota was very silly
you just played keep away builds, not even trying to kill
yeah but even with what I consider lame leagues like mercs I still do at least 2 chars a league
i think i almost maxed out my rating in that
necro was so dreadful I didnt even bother
with one of the cheese strats
Wrong, we dont need FE at all
Merc was tame tho, your expectations is stifled to begin with
Terminal mode engaged
You cant expect more
ngl i 1 tapped my mirror foil on necro
great league
great meatsacks
run it back
infact i made 2 of them so someone else got one aswell 
necro crafting potential was really nice
mercs wasnt interesting to me because mercs were way overtuned but still had fun with what I played
merc was good
mercs were very deadly
but at least you got a new toy to play with
bama got too popular
therefore must die
me when my build gets nerfed bc of temporary content that's not coming back to the game

remember that one poison trap skill everyone was playing at one point?
never herad about it again since
anyway yes I am sorry octavian but the first boss you have designed yourself (saresh) is real shite
it is good, yes, but worse to play
is he shite or just too squishy
big letdown when the breachlords are so good
seismic trap, thats the name
he has like 3 moves
never heard fro magain?
very unimpactful
seismic was king for years
yes and now completely dead
i see some folks do still play it, i guess people just dont talk about it
i mean i play bama a shittone
didnt bama get the merc mod back this league

unfortunately reaching said top end is hard
wasnt that good
it feels like dogarse to play early now
Why
and a lot of the variations are just cheeks
just play lightning now wew
which is ironically the reason why bama got obliterated in the first place
I havent played bama to endgame but I will say that trans bama was one of the most absurd levelings ive ever done
it is still goat for leveling
@hexed jolt did u see my marylenes
no
Im gonna be brutally honest, ggg hasnt made an actually fun league in a while
u ahvent pinged me
dang thats noice
they have made a lot of rewarding leagues
but not fun ones, yes
344 crit kekw
static strike gaming
rewarding != fun
ambush is so broken man
gl convincing this chat of that joel
mirage being another portal actually sucks arse
what chat
youre only talking with hucu and like fannekin
about it
I mean , rewarding can subjectively lead to fun, but objectively it aint
the consensus here is that poe bad
well theyre the ones actively arguing against it
last fun league ritual frfr
which is why those discussions are pointless
yeah
ritual is kind of dog mechanic im sorry
okay breach 2.0 calm down
youre just discussing subjective ratings
what the helly
ye
ritual was pog when it came out
No the fuck it aint
after ritual got the new enemy treatment became way less fun to do
i wouldnt play a tolerable game
You played league
poe is an enjoyable game
That's not even tolerable
fwiw im trolling
yeah and league of legos arams with friends are fun
i played it for ritual 
but ritual was the last league i played the full 3 months in
last time i played league of legos solo was in like 2015
its a vehicle for friend interaction
I just think ggg can't make one because everytime they try to make a mechanic thats out there and innovative its just plagued with random fuckin inconveniences
Like betrayal outside of being perma 1 tapped, was fun until people realized the tedium to reset the damn board every catarina
betrayal on release was hella overtuned
some of the deadliest random mobs released lol
Mobs definitely were, but they were equal parts rewarding and fun at the start, tho some people will find the board minigame fun
i dont really remember betrayal being rewarding tbh
May I recommend crab champions
It has crabs
quin69 it that fled footage
It has champions
betrayal was rewarding because it introduced scarabs
and betrayal was the only source of them,
I find all Minigames boring
I think my definition of a good league mechanic during the league is one I do even after I get to like level 95 and havent gotten bored of it, stuff like ritual, mercs and tota I just started skipping after a while, mirage, deli, affliction you do literally always, mirage and keepers are weirdly half/half because during their leagues you skip them sometimes (if wish is shite and it's not near your league mech or if a hive spawned instead of an unstable breach)
i do remember the teasers about betrayal
Especially in genres I actually like
I think in general the best parts about betrayal
memorable interview
@hexed jolt @amber phoenix literally 2 essences
empty suffix for cat
Honestly I kinda fucking hate pets
mirage basically doesnt add or remove from enjoyment imo
legacy league my beloved
if you already are having fun, mirage wont change that
if you arent, mirage isnt gonna improve it either
@amber phoenix https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DV1JWdoDTg5/
its like a neutral addition of more things to do per map
its not bad
legion was hella fun on release, same with breach
is farrul the beast for craft or for encounter
farrul first of the plains is the craft
breach felt even more special because it was very difficult and very rewarding on launch
farric tiger alpha is for the boss
every time I think about doing beast farming I remember the last times I tried and got so mad at the bestiary management I respecced it after filling the inventory twice
mercs definitely felt like encountering random pokemon in tall grass
fun for a while

but eventually you just get sick of it and want to run
Yeah you would have skipped mercs but when you found a good one you could Juice your Maps to the max.
Many new Combos which made some funny builds
yup
the personal merc was a fun new puzzle
the in map mechanic got boring really quick
they couldve made multiple spawn or something idk
doesnt matter anymore
I lowkey hope they give up on readding them to core
it's not often that I dont want a league to go core but I definitely hope they dont
i dont want more gear pressure 
buff them a lot, make them support you in a map and only in map
ezpz
they said they're gonna in some way
hope thats the extent of it tbh
I still think the way they implemented affliction is lame, not because I wanted the absurd rewards, I wanted the optional extra difficulty
they added the difficulty without the rewards
they could have made it 1/10th as rewarding and I still would have wanted it on the atlas tree as I minmaxed
ritual absorbed some of it
affliction probs most fun league from the recent ones
Yeah mercs going core will be either nerfed af or some trathus bloodline which disables spells/attacks or have a Maximum of 4 links shit
trarthus bloodline would be a cool idea actually
bloodlines only ascendancy points could be dope too
or like forbiddens that provide them

Watch aaaaaa by bo7like and millions of other Path of Exile videos on Medal. #pathofexile
perhaps boxes was not the best showcase
i got 2 div and a containment tho
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bereks probably
Been thinking about adding chests to my blight tree
opens in browser
i have bereks but one ring solves mana
the other solves str
gotta move str to some other item
@hexed jolt @amber phoenix build update
Belt maybe?
Do I have a belt to sell you
@torpid temple did one game of comp
Or you get jewel that gives the ignore gear requirements
I weep for your soul
Genuinely felt like it was gold lobby
Like holy shit im calling out incoming ults
And they jsut dive
Ocerwatch or league?
And then blame the supps where heals
This is high diamond to masters btw like im expecting this kind of common sense
Overwat
mao kun pog div drop
i have a megablood on
Never touching comp again fr
also i need like 50 str
Eternally on fun 6v6 quickplay games
I can't play without atleast 3 people I know anymore, either dps is shit, or I get braindead tabks/healer
Nah, rank inflation and rank hasnt reset in like several seasons
So gold is at high diamond
what bvuild update



