2┃build-planning

[remote narwhal]

I'm going normally till I get the stuff I need anyways

The runes I need are end game end

Facebreaker has its own scaling too.

[old rune]

What's everyone thoughts on martial artist monk? It looks bonkers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adR8-SMo8vI

The only thing that holds it back is the fact that the monk is one of if not the hardest starter. Weak dmg, defences, etc

[rustic arrow]

which applies only to mace attacks

[remote narwhal]

Where does it say only maces

[static plinth]

The damage per str is global for unarmed

But like if youre gonna use both you should absolutely use all 3 parts

[remote narwhal]

I plan on ripping it

That and the armor part.

[eternal pilot]

Whats the prediction on fist of stone version of facebreakers?

[remote narwhal]

No clue

But ik ripping the mods off it are better.

[empty torrent]

ok, so question on culling strike: i am currently testing on standard league a culling WH build, with myris uxor and pitiless killer. why don't whites get culled at 60% hp?

[remote narwhal]

Wh

[eternal pilot]

"Unarmed attacks that would use an equiped bow's damage uses this items damage"

[remote narwhal]

Lol doubt it

[rustic arrow]

na some soert of stacker maybe mana or armour stacker stuff

[remote narwhal]

Probably will be something that makes qs possible.

But I want the armor stacking and unarmed pulled

[rustic arrow]

is facebreaker even kalguuran or ezmyte?

[remote narwhal]

Honestly no idea

Might be ezmyte

[rustic arrow]

and you base your whole build on that?

[remote narwhal]

Basing it off the armor

[rustic arrow]

also

[flat jungle]

If i use howling beast arctic howl and socket infernal howl into it than use echoing cry do i get 18 critical weakness? 3 on every cry so arctic howl 3 times and infernal cry 3 times

[static plinth]

Im assuming its gonna change to be DEX based and grant Hollow Palm Technique

So evasion and % more damage per dex and replacing the faces broken and mace skills line with HPT

[static plinth]

Its Ezomyte

[rustic arrow]

ye then good luck affording them thingy lol

[remote narwhal]

That's why I was saying about ripping stuff cause u could have sigil of power with the mods of whispering ice. It's a speculation on how good this stuff will be. Could be absolutely shit period. Nobody knows yet.

[rustic arrow]

iam not accounting for that kinda budged as a leaguestarer

[remote narwhal]

Yea agreed.

[static plinth]

I really hope we can rip Iron Reflexes off that one set of boots

[remote narwhal]

I'm looking at blackbraid for the simple reason it's mod is soooooo good

[static plinth]

Is that the crit thorns one?

[remote narwhal]

No

I misspelled

[flat jungle]

Does someone know that?

[remote narwhal]

It's this

100% to 150% armor to elemental

That's a huge defensive layer

[rustic arrow]

by itself ? no

[remote narwhal]

With armour stacking yea

Including the fact most builds that run elemental dmg stacking use kaoms

Plans to get the life from kaoms, get black braids elemental

[rustic arrow]

since when does that thing look like "that"

[remote narwhal]

No idea

Honestly I'm still wondering what magebloods modifiers will be

And oh shit.

I just thought about something

Headhunters value is going to be a lot higher now.

[rustic arrow]

na its gonna be normal

[remote narwhal]

Ripping the mod off it

[rustic arrow]

its ezomyte or kalguuran?

[remote narwhal]

I don't think it's limited to that

[rustic arrow]

why do you think i ask that then

[remote narwhal]

Yea that seems a little fucked tbh

But ik blackbraid is one of them

[rustic arrow]

also need same itemclass

[remote narwhal]

Yep

[rustic arrow]

how many belts have sockets

[remote narwhal]

Darkness enthroned

[rustic arrow]

that sounds like a waste

[remote narwhal]

Kinda

[rustic arrow]

also those dont count

[remote narwhal]

Yea agreed

[rustic arrow]

they act as sockets from other equipment

[remote narwhal]

But thank god blackbraid is ezomite

Yea but I may go for darkness enthroned

Body armor for it

[wet granite]

what other builds are like flicker strike in poe2?

[rustic arrow]

unless your some giga juicer, your curretnly planning on using unrela ammounts of money

[rustic arrow]

anything blink or lightning warp , altho slower

and lamer

[remote narwhal]

Well my idea was to use shit versions early

[wet granite]

so flicker strike is pog

alr

imma go for it, prolly wait a day or two for the god, magefist, to tell us his ways

[rustic arrow]

flicker is a lifestyle

[remote narwhal]

1500 life from kaoms and 100% ele is well worth on the belt.

[rustic arrow]

IF you can socket them into the belt

[remote narwhal]

True

That's what we don't know yet sadly.

But that would make people happy if they can

Would be stupid to not allow it with the belt.

[rustic arrow]

no that would be balanced

people not gonna be happy either way

[remote narwhal]

Agreed

[rustic arrow]

might aswell keep it balanced

[remote narwhal]

I mean getting a decent darkness enthroned is a pain now

You gotta find abyss's

[rustic arrow]

hardly an issue

[remote narwhal]

Just to get part of the mechanic.

[stoic narwhal]

What's a good spell to inflict ignites with? Feels like everything I try is just nothing burger for ignite dps

[rustic arrow]

ignite itselff is lala

[remote narwhal]

Eh.

It is*

[rustic arrow]

hammer of god or whatver the name tho

was somewhat okay

[remote narwhal]

I normally use pragmatic and the charm whenever I use ignites

But that's life stacking and self ignting.

But I do bloodbarrier and beira with that.

[remote narwhal]

Now the biggest question will be if it's item class as in weapon, body armour

[rustic arrow]

not a question

[remote narwhal]

What I mean is

Say pulling from whispering ice the cold spell

And placing it on a wand instead

[rustic arrow]

no

different weapons

[remote narwhal]

Yea that's where item class is confusing.

[rustic arrow]

no its not

[remote narwhal]

I hope ur right

[rustic arrow]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Item_class

poe2 version not updated yet

[flat jungle]

How many hits does 1 eye of winter have?

[rustic arrow]

but i dont see why it would be different

[tribal sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC6O01mzYmM

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aejAc2nOJAg

[upbeat sedge]

Can any one help me i am split between Twister Comet Oracle or abyssal lich twister? any thoughts

[rustic arrow]

coin it

[upbeat sedge]

🙂

[flat jungle]

WAIT does living lighting ATTACK and can you support it with culling strike?

[remote narwhal]

Depends on what ur going with Oracle.

[rustic arrow]

if you fine with sacrificieng one support slot for that

[remote narwhal]

Oracle would end up being good in some aspects then lich others. Just gotta weigh the pros and cons of both.

Which requires the most investment.

Me id go Oracle only cause I've seen what Oracle can pull off with little investment.

[charred dagger]

is the snipe single target better than the tornado shot ice strike version?

[remote narwhal]

Snipes always better single target.

[charred dagger]

thanks

[remote narwhal]

But

It depends on how ur built too

[charred dagger]

any details in particular?

[remote narwhal]

Actually nvm I didn't realize they fucked with snipe

Use to have crit dmg.

Not freeze so I'd say tornado would be better and use snipe if u can freeze a target easily.

Not happy they changed that

It was fine as it was.

[flat jungle]

WTF HOW OP IS ICE NOVA i get a 300% shock ofcourse its still capped at 100% 50% chill AND 922% FREEZE BUILDUP ON A BOSS WTF???? 1 nova boss frozen

And ofcourse the 7.8m radius

[coarse crescent]

ignore that shock effect table, thats a leftover from poe1

damage dealt doesnt affect shock magnitude in poe2

its always a base of 20, regardless of how much dmg you do

so you only have a 20 x 1.3 shock there aka 26%

[flat jungle]

Oh ok

[ruby flume]

How could i find out if One Handed Weapons nodes will affect (or not) the new Facebreaker unique gloves?

[coarse crescent]

well, quarterstaff/2h nodes dont affect hollow palm, so mace/1h weapon nodes will most likely not affect facebreakers

[flat jungle]

But is the freeze table accurate?

[coarse crescent]

yea

[ruby flume]

ok thanks

[flat jungle]

Ok now with only 26% shock it still has over 500 freeze buildup wtf

[coarse crescent]

yeah nova is really good at freezing

what target have you put in here

[flat jungle]

Basic guardian pinnacle

Oh wait if shock doesnt scale with lightning dmg i might swap alot of dmg as extra lightning to cold

[livid hamlet]

It scales in an indirect way

You won't shock without lots of lightning Dps

Shock chance scales with damage so you need lots of medium hits or some big ones

[flat jungle]

Im at 100% no matter what with onl archmage 1.1k man and the 5% dmg as extra rune

[mental tinsel]

Are there any nodes/items in PoE that'll let me scale my spell dmg increase into melee of some sort?

[livid hamlet]

There's an item called crown of eyes

Core of many builds

[mental tinsel]

Fantastic. My build is a-go 😄

[uncut bay]

I am still trying to compare the ascendancies for comet spark builds without bloodmage, infernalist seems like such a clear winner, waaay more damage than other ascendancies with only 10 demon stacks plus lots of spirit and movement speed, chronomancer being the absolute loser with no damage and only similar tankiness to varashta

stormweaver would be then second worst, but I am not accounting for adonia's ego, I am not sure how much better adonia's+scepter is than a staff

oracle being the second best with the second best damage after infernalist while also being tanky, but it's a very rough estimation, all of this is really hard to estimate

[agile remnant]

Im not really interested in the tree that huntress starts with but i want to use spirit walker. Do you think branching up north will be viable? I just want to be a caster and such use the borb staff and cloak.

[fringe lagoon]

Poor chrono

44% more dmg from echo/repeated comets is not nothing tho

[flat jungle]

Yeah for cascadeable and repeatable spells chrono is INSANE

[uncut bay]

44% more damage only for comets, yes

[coarse crescent]

its aight, but at the same time infernalist has a 50% more dmg node

[uncut bay]

spark also deals a lot of damage and I think it's only repeatable? still way less damage overall than other ascendancies, chrono is like varashta, but less damage

and I prefer varashta's tankiness even, seems more comfortable

[coarse crescent]

i would honestly out varashta above infernalist on that

just for consistency

[flat jungle]

And ice nova and many more spells

[coarse crescent]

sure infernalist has more average damage, but varashta using effigy of cruelty will feel better

[flat jungle]

And 20% more dmg for all spells

[uncut bay]

yes, it's still way less damage than any other ascendancy

[flat jungle]

Is anyone using for 2nd weapon set effigy with thunderstorm and living lighting linked to cull support thats insane i think you get 10% cull and crit weak

[uncut bay]

I didn't think of that myself

[flat jungle]

But chrono has now sick tank 30% dr and a instant recovery button which got semi buffed because all other es recharge nodes got nerfed

[uncut bay]

but it's not just more damage, it's like 70% more damage plus the spirit, idk man

[uncut bay]

the chrono passive with 30% damage reduction has a funny antisynergy with ES recovery in case it interrupts it

[flat jungle]

Yeah but small hits are irrelevant anyway

Just feeze chill slow temp chains enemies and you barly get hit

[coarse crescent]

for coc you really want the consistency of having capped crit chance more than the occasional high dmg crit

i can definitly see using entangle instead of spark on infernalist tho

[uncut bay]

I am comparing all of the ascendancies with pinpoint except oracle, he gets to use an additional support instead

so the crit chance is 90% at least

[coarse crescent]

if you can scale it that high, yea

but tbh, coc has jsut been replaced by totems

totems costing nothing with ancestreal bond is kinda bonkers

free archmage etc

[fringe lagoon]

what cull support are you referring to?

[past bobcat]

Yeah but are totems fun tho ?

[flat jungle]

I have 2 potential league starters for chrono either pure ice nova without coc or ice darts spam both have some nice synergy with chrono on ice darts i would use alphas howls for crazy presence than whispering ice for screenwide chill chronos slow for even more slow and temp chains for even more or ice nova because it synergies nice with the echo repeat

[coarse crescent]

yes

[flat jungle]

Just culling strike support

[uncut bay]

ehm I would try to maximize damage as chrono

[past bobcat]

Is there a starter build that could do the trick for totems ?

[fringe lagoon]

It's Supports Attack Skills

[coarse crescent]

sure, bonestorm infernalist

[fringe lagoon]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1507196579575107645

[flat jungle]

Yes and living lighting is a minion that attacks

[fringe lagoon]

It has no tag attack tho, not usure if you can slot in culling strike

[sleek slate]

is there a good way to do a bit of damage to your own energy shield for archon purposes?

[flat jungle]

Yeah that might be a proplem cant test it atm tho

[fringe lagoon]

fireflower for fire skills

[coarse crescent]

theres a bunch of self hit sources, scolds bridal, fireflower, pyromantic pact

[sleek slate]

neat

[coarse crescent]

if you mean this, you can actually also just weapon swap into a set that has more energy shield like with a focus and it will instantly start recharging

so you can have a button press archon

[sleek slate]

i tried this with a passive set point but for some reason it required swapping multiple times. does it work with focus?

[coarse crescent]

it depends on if you have taken dmg recently

it only instantly recharges if you havent

[flat jungle]

These are my 2 rough sketches
https://pobb.in/3zsg2OoWQ1kd
https://pobb.in/9dURJ9vpkn9_

[sleek slate]

yeah it didnt trigger on the instant recharge, only on the delayed recharge

[coarse crescent]

one trick is also to bind covalescence to your second weapon set and just press that

that way its guaranteed

[sleek slate]

yeah i tried that but with meditate lol, didnt work

i figured the only way to get it work consistently would be with self dmg

because that would give the delayed recharge to trigger archon

and then i could just use meditate to do it quickly

[odd vault]

would this be a good skill tree for spirit walker twister? i just made a prassive tree for next league so i didn't have to spend too much time on that when i was playing, but i wanna know if this sucks or actually could be something.

[fringe lagoon]

You should use most if not all your weapon set points to push attack speed to set 1 and damage on set 2

[odd vault]

oh attack speed for whirling slash and then damage for twister?

Oh well didn't think of that, thank you. but is it enough crit chance and damage i have, and other stuff? if i just assign it to the weapon sets?

or is there nodes that doesn't make any sense

wait how do i do the thing with the weapon sets in pob?

[fringe lagoon]

pathing to cooked and not taking it's kind of a tease xD

click here

[odd vault]

ohhh

i see ty

[fringe lagoon]

attack speed on whirling slash weapon set it's really important for movement, especially lategame when you want to zoom

I played no crit witchhunter twister in 0.4, feel free to draw some inspiration for your build https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Vomii-2056/vaal/character/Vomi_WH

an important keystone missing from your tree is Dance with Death

[odd vault]

Thank you i will do. i don't think i understand how the skill gems work in this tool just downloaded it today haha

[odd vault]

and that is for whirling right?

and then only have offhand for the twister weapon set

[fringe lagoon]

Note you can't assign skills to weapon set in pob

But you can still build the tree and switch between weapon sets under items

[odd vault]

no like giving a skill a support gem in here, i don't see it

[proven rapids]

I was thinking my 3m dps build was good for a poe2 build and then I saw this 8,4m dps, what the fuck

Feel like i'm wasting my time theorycrafting worthless build compared to that

[flat jungle]

I took hours to make that the gear is pretty perfect t1 so less tsnk and dmg and config is important

[native lance]

I was checking out the tree for these lightning dmg penetrates lightning resistances. Do these have anti synergy with exposure?

if I scale exposure effect and the monsters have 0 res, do they just do nothing?

[flat jungle]

Yeah pen is useless

[native lance]

aight cool

[flat jungle]

Either get exposure from whispering ice and stack it with curses etc or use rakiatas flow

[native lance]

my primal strikes gives -50% res exposure

so it's probably not worth getting any of these pen nodes

[flat jungle]

Yeah not realy

Are staffs or wand+focus stronger

[odd vault]

Sorry im tagging, but wh ydoes it say 53 / 24 can i only alocate 24 of each weapon set or what?

[fringe lagoon]

i guess it doesn't impose a limit, but you shouldn't allocate more than 24 😅

[odd vault]

oh okay

[flat jungle]

And DONT path over jewel sockets with weapon set points

[granite plaza]

Anyone have a link to a decent build riding the rhoa? I just wanna play around with the build

[odd vault]

so this is better?

The red is twister and green is whirling

[fringe lagoon]

Looks better but you should have more weapon set points to use

e.g. for falcon dive

[odd vault]

Yeah so make it so weapon set 1 and 2 has the same ?

[fringe lagoon]

Both 24/24 ideally

[odd vault]

oh okay

[glass pivot]

So the changes to corrupting cry, do i understand it correct that socketing corrupting cry into a skill "unlocks" another skill that you can put sockets into? ._.

"Corrupting Cry I, Corrupting Cry II: No longer causes the supported skill to inflict Corrupted Blood, but instead it triggers a skill which inflicts Corrupted Blood, scaled by the level of the gem it is socketed into."

Or is that a "skill" that would not appear on the "skill page"?

[upper wasp]

So next league i've been thinking on doing a blackflame covenant build for Acolyte of Chayula. Anyone got any tips? I'm still pretty new to making builds, not sure what to look for other then chaos damage

[distant dome]

Has anyone tested if spell totems can trigger Arcane Surge on us with nodes like Aspiring Genius? I don't think it should, but I also didn't expect them to consume our power charges to improve their bonestorm casts.
(Tested, it doesn't)

[opaque bluff]

is there a skill most likely to be best for chronomancer and its 20% node? (repeat and echo)?

[flat jungle]

All skills that can do both

[opaque bluff]

how do i figure that out?

[flat jungle]

Comet is just the best skill for it but i HATE comet

Ice nova works aswell and i think is fa cooler

[gaunt ether]

is there no real way of making vol fissure a clear skill

or is it unfortunately only for combo

[remote narwhal]

I was looking at this

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/gl1tch3d-6tupst/builds/ccbe551a-5678-4186-b989-5bec6d85e325

Guys a really good builder for unique builds

I tried out his reverse pull warbringer (added my own twists to it)

But that was for a 1-100 video for that using temples.

[remote narwhal]

You may take a look at this too (just ideas from a guy who Ive made multiple builds off off)

https://youtu.be/Vveqj7n-nL8?si=_jvPd4f493i5HJy1

[remote narwhal]

Same guy just explained

He's using whispering ice

So thought I'd share it

Doesn't have to be chrono

[rustic arrow]

he is not using whispering ice

[remote narwhal]

Yes he is

[rustic arrow]

not the main part

[remote narwhal]

He's abusing the chill

[rustic arrow]

where is the icestorm

in his builds its just a statstick

[remote narwhal]

Yea

Which can be applied to stormweaver too

Making a higher dps than what he's doing

[rustic arrow]

and be another build entirly

[remote narwhal]

Meaning u can abuse both sides of it.

That's what I'm saying and yea different build.

But concept still stands

[rustic arrow]

no i cannot icestorm is based of off int stacking

[remote narwhal]

Free chill.

[rustic arrow]

its another archtype of build

[remote narwhal]

Ur abusing heatshiver with it.

Which is based off the second part

Which is affected by icestorm

[rustic arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/done-annoyed-im-out-im-done-here-gif-5690236

[remote narwhal]

Your exactly correct

Not arguing that.

[fallen tartan]

what will be the better ascendancies for wyvern?

[mint saffron]

Anyone seen anything about the changes to Chronomancer and what that might mean for builds in 0.5? Im confused what skills this ascendancy will use

[remote narwhal]

It's gonna be pretty good.

[mint saffron]

What will it main damage skill be?

[remote narwhal]

That depends on what u want.

[mint saffron]

Curses?

Chaos dmg?

[remote narwhal]

Comets a hell no

Try running the basics

[mint saffron]

Whats the basics? this will be my first POE2 league for context (played 1,000h of POE1)

I found this 0.4 build for chronomancer with curses, but i cant figure out how it deals damage lol https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/wonsuru123456-7682/TheLoneSoceress?i=0&search=class%3DChronomancer%26skills%3DTime%2BFreeze

[remote narwhal]

Ah ok

That's not a damage build.

[mint saffron]

what is it? an aura bot?

[flat jungle]

I dont think heatshiver is good chill is 50% max which isnt that much i like alphas howl more whole screen is chilled and 100 spirit

[remote narwhal]

Remember stormweaver applies it twice

But that's just budget version.

[fringe lagoon]

Imo 0.5 changes to Chronomancer make it viable for different builds, mostly spell casters but can even consider attack damage one thanks to the extra skill speed. Echo/cascade on spells is some damage and 30% damage reduction is no joke

[remote narwhal]

Alpha is later end once you got things going.

[flat jungle]

Even with 100% chill its only 100% dmg and its fire dmg fire sucks archmage gives lighting for free shock

[mint saffron]

Do you think Essence Drain + Contagion is viable with Chronomancer then?

[remote narwhal]

Yea, and u can conv that 100% to cold.

[flat jungle]

It is but why?? Lich is far better

[flat jungle]

Why should i?

[fringe lagoon]

sure, for endgame might be stronger on lich

[remote narwhal]

Cause u got another basis u can take as well.

[mint saffron]

Idk, first character in POE2, I like curses + chaos damage , EDC +Contagion seems the coolest, and I think the Chronomancer ascendency sounds cool so Im trying to figure out what I can play

[remote narwhal]

Which is another temporary

[mint saffron]

Kinda feels like Impending Doom vibes from POE1 with the greater spell echo stuff and Temporal Chains, idk

[flat jungle]

Just go lich you can spirit stack for crazy aoe or go lowlife setup for tons of DR you can get explode ...

[remote narwhal]

It's his first run so he's not too familiar with that

[mint saffron]

The theme of chronomancer just seems so cool with the "controlling time" thing so, I was wondering what skills in POE2 would be viable with it

[remote narwhal]

Rn it's not. But next season yea it is. 100%

[magic pier]

would ingenuity and/or ritualist affect the socketed rune?

[flat jungle]

Idk the time controll stuff sucks why would you control time if you can just oneshot the enemy

[remote narwhal]

I mean i get it

[mint saffron]

idk its just the flavor/theme of it sounds cool. Like how if you use temporal chains in POE1 it makes enemies take more posion damag cause of effect duration. That was cool

[flat jungle]

Every class can use temp chains

[mint saffron]

right, youre not getting it tho... its the theme of the ascendancy. Aka like why some people are drawn to different archetypes, its not raw damage/build potential.

[remote narwhal]

Even if it wasn't

[mint saffron]

So im asking , hypothetically, if i thought the chronomancer ascendancy sounds cool, and im a first time POE2 player, what skills can I use for a build

[remote narwhal]

Chrono can still do that too

[flat jungle]

If you want to go chrono cold stuff is pretty good if you just care about dmg comet if you want a cooler skill i think ice nova

[remote narwhal]

But it's basically got its own personal culling strike.

[flat jungle]

?what

[remote narwhal]

Agony

Did u not see the change to it?

[flat jungle]

Ah i think that skill sucks you waste youre curse you need to cast it and its only 50% more dmg

[remote narwhal]

Tbh yes and no

If you deal enough to trigger it.

It's amazing

Otherwise it's a waste.

[flat jungle]

But you still need to cast it to apply it

[remote narwhal]

Yea

[flat jungle]

If youre bossing its maybe wort respecting quickly but if you use it for clear youre build is trash

[remote narwhal]

Personally I'd do frost bolts.

But ik how to get that shit to blow up easily.

[flat jungle]

Frostbolt only gets 1 20% echo chance not 2

[remote narwhal]

I wouldn't be using it like that

[static plinth]

Who i gotta serenade for a third Divine shield skill
One is neither melee nor ranged which makes it annoying to scale and the other is a fuckin retribution skill lmao

[flat jungle]

How would you use it

[static plinth]

maybe i should at least give Shield of Light the time of day

[remote narwhal]

I always go for the sire of shards with it

[flat jungle]

How single target?

[remote narwhal]

With a snakepit on the left

Snakepit triggers it early.

[remote narwhal]

It's the amount of it I cast that makes the single target better

Unleash with it might semi lower the dps. But adding wildshards in helps too. (It kinda is a lot to trigger it bossing)

[flat jungle]

How much dps do you reach you waste youre weapon for just a few extra projs

[remote narwhal]

Read the explosion.

[flat jungle]

You miss out on 7 level crit extra dmg

[velvet trout]

Thoughts on quarterstaff Gemling? Even without knowing the gem quality bonuses yet, the existing nodes like attribute cheating & red gem crit immunity/dmg bonus could make a good Whirling Assault AOE + mega bleed Vaulting Impact for bosses. Pleasant surprise from the gem quality node for late game?

[remote narwhal]

Frostbolt sucks ass without it

[flat jungle]

Yeah but not all projs will explode on the boss

You would need to stand in him

[remote narwhal]

That's why u use frostwall

Frostbolt can't Peirce anymore

[flat jungle]

Ah yeah and why chrono than

[remote narwhal]

Chrono with agony just would make it a easy kill

With low investment

But I mainly do it cause of unleash rn.

And quicksand of time

Free skill speed. Hell yes I'd take that.

[flat jungle]

Is sands of time reliable im thinking of using it in my ice nova build without the aoe from it my nova alread has 7.6m

[remote narwhal]

It's duration sadly.

So having a little extra duration makes it better.

[flat jungle]

Whats duration?

[remote narwhal]

That only comes up for a certain amount of time

As far as I remember.

I made that char a stormweaver

Had higher investment so I didn't need the low tier version anymore

[flat jungle]

The main thing chrono has going for it in my opinion is the echo and repeat

[remote narwhal]

It loses that

[mint saffron]

which is for any skill now? not just spells?

[remote narwhal]

This is what now is coming

[alpine leaf]

https://youtu.be/hFXwf6eANUc?si=f0MpGewZ3x5pdK7r&t=31 what skill is this time stamped in the video?

[flat jungle]

? No the echo and repeat node is NEW

[remote narwhal]

Or I'm mistaken.

Wait really.

That's stupid.

The cast speed one is perfectly fine with chrono

The rest of it needed work

[remote narwhal]

That's a kalguran unique skill I think

Or a cosmetic on a skill I'm not 100%

I'm pretty sure it's one of the new skills

[flat jungle]

That node replaced the recou node

[remote narwhal]

Yea that's actually stupid

Wouldn't help unless u have ways to add to it

Which would explain the nerf to comet if that's the case.

[flat jungle]

? What do you mean

[remote narwhal]

What's comets quality.

[flat jungle]

Ice nova base can cascade and repeat so you get basicly 44% more dmg

[remote narwhal]

It's a repeatable correct

[flat jungle]

Comet is the same

[remote narwhal]

Yea but I'm using a example

You get 10% chance at a repeat

So with chrono it's 30%

They might have stuff to make it 100% on the tree

If that's the case.

Comet didn't really get a nerf then

[flat jungle]

Yeah so instead of 44% more its only 42% more

[remote narwhal]

Yea

Like I'm wondering about it now.

Alot of builds would be spamming the repeat.

[flat jungle]

And because comet is just stupid i dont like how its the top spell didnt pkay it at all this league so i wann try ice nova instead

[flat jungle]

Spaming the repeat what?

[remote narwhal]

If they add in stuff to add more chance to repeat.

You'd be seeing the server blowing up tho XD

[flat jungle]

One thing i might try to pob now is a rage caster

[thorny inlet]

Guys, which ascension do you guys think would be easier to build a minion build to use the new RF staff?

Between Sorc and Witch mostly

[fringe lagoon]

I'd say Witch unless you really wanna go Varashta

The RF staff could be kinda bait, it might be difficult to build around it

Can't scale with minion crit or attack speed, only minion damage.. Not to mention losing all the minion levels by not running sceptre

There was some discussions in https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1502257165862305822, maybe it will be useful to you

[flat jungle]

Does walking calamity gain glory while in the other weapon set

[proud lagoon]

ice nova is ~1/3rd the damage of comet

[flat jungle]

Not realy you can scale cast speed

Comet cant

[simple oar]

I think I wanna do new Monk ascendancy with Facebreaker

[cedar aspen]

Maxrolls build planner on mobile feels a lot easier to use

After their update

[calm reef]

Are right side builds still going evasion/es after the es nerf? Going pure evasion or evasion with deflection still needs max hit defense so probably right? Evasion seems buffed a lot so maybe it’ll feel the same as before? Deflection also buffed but not sure how good this is.

[formal geyser]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Irongrasp

Shaman plant build around this? Str stack.

Iron will being the focus here

[flat jungle]

https://pobb.in/7HRv5HA8b2Uj oh for my second char i maybe make a rage caster that looks insane solid max hit crezy recovery from scarred faith and very high dmg

108 rage with the changes to glory stuff is crazy

[flat jungle]

That item is better for attacks especially proj attacks

You can double dip from both

[formal geyser]

What projectile attacks benefit from spell power?

[flat jungle]

All

With crown of eyes

[thorny inlet]

Ayo guys, I am following this guide: https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/plants-lich-deadrabb1t?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C4

For some reason they take Sacrificial Blood in the passive tree but I don't see any skill spending life in the guide. What am I missing?

[brittle anvil]

well read the small passives that lead to Sacrificial Blood

[wet zealot]

Hey, has anyone cooked up a minion build for Chayula? Apparently, it's viable

[flat jungle]

Did molten blast get nerfed in 0.4 or why did no one play it in 0.4 compared to 0.3

[thorny inlet]

Damn, only for this 8%?

I thought for sure they would put a lifetap or something into a skill

I mean, makes sense

The notable itself doesn't scale with how much life you spend

Ty btw

[honest grail]

completely unnerfed 0.5 shield wall dmg

[wet granite]

its unnerfed because its not a 1 button build

i would think

based on what they nerfed

[honest grail]

this is as many buttons as shield wall fort cry

it just doesn't use fort cry

because fort cry is worse

[wet granite]

yeah

but like GGG wants this game to have more intricate builds

instead of walking bot

[wicked pumice]

i have a question if anyone has tested it. does hallow palm work with concoctions? for pathfinder since they require unarmed

[coarse bronze]

do we have confirmation if the flat phys from facebreaker will stack with hollow palm?

[fossil flint]

no

[fossil flint]

it was confirmed

that it doesnt

[coarse bronze]

sadge

[fossil flint]

both hollow palm and facebreakers are worded such that they only apply to the things they apply to

of course we have absolutely no idea what a Fist of Stone version of facebreaker would be, so you can hope for something nice there

[wicked pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-358126946326466778

sadge

[fossil flint]

i mean the keystone directly states: "Unarmed attacks that would use your Quarterstaff's damage gain:"

[wet granite]

quarter staff and two handed weapons? doesnt make sense

[fossil flint]

not sure what you are confused about? Hollow Form lets you use QS skills while unarmed, and then modifies such skills used this way with flat damage, attack speed, and crit chance.

[last widget]

For 0.5, I’m making a new character, and I was wondering what the best class is best for fast aggressive clearing? Kinda like glass cannon

I’m new so I’m not sure what to play

[remote narwhal]

yea it kinda did.

not itself but i believe the item used did.

and i been reading.

[flat jungle]

Every class can do glass cannon agresive clear but that playstile sucks 1 wrong move and map lost

[flat jungle]

I think its nova projs

[remote narwhal]

item class is specifically on armour like eve and es or nah

or is it in general?

[flat jungle]

What?

[remote narwhal]

if so i'll slam eve and es

[remote narwhal]

back to ripping off mods

[remote narwhal]

^

[flat jungle]

That item sucks wtf

[remote narwhal]

read it again

theres 1 mod to it that doesnt

im thinking of ripping that off.

[flat jungle]

I can get with a rare body 50% applies to ele AND 10x the base armour than helmet boots gloves skilltree

[remote narwhal]

yea but that particular armour

[flat jungle]

Oh wait you think you can turn that mod into a rune?

[remote narwhal]

is ezomite

[remote narwhal]

its ezomite so it can be

[flat jungle]

Oh ok armour stackers are eating good

[remote narwhal]

https://gyazo.com/a56631bb4fc6db1281e105f9d47817f1?token=0e53af7d1d051506f762424c4163ac24

yea im thinking of iron reflex

get a good eve es stacking.

[flat jungle]

Idk iron reflex kinda sucks i think

[remote narwhal]

converting all ur eve to armour

[flat jungle]

I would go CI hybrid armour es

[remote narwhal]

im on the monk side

[flat jungle]

Scarred faith is sick recovery with high armour

[remote narwhal]

id get the benifit of taking the rating for hallow palm then

[flat jungle]

Its poe 2 so increased evasion is useless for iron reflex

[remote narwhal]

true

but using a high eve and es

its based off it before the conversion

[flat jungle]

If you go whirling assault aps isnt even important

[remote narwhal]

same with shattering palm

im aiming for the melee stuff from the warrior side to for immoblizing.

which if im tanky enough

i can get around with some surround nodes for aoe

so the lack of heavy dps isnt going to matter with shattering.

im after the explosion not the main side of the dps.

[remote narwhal]

i plan on doing iron grip too.

but thats for staggering palm.

which i might add is affected by the unarmed from facebraker as well.

hopefully fist of stone places it to qs.

[untold summit]

havent played in a while, i see the blasphemy decaying hex stuff still isnt a thing, is there any form of aura damage in the game that works in a similar way?

[rapid star]

there will be, A staff that gives you a M*rder of Crows/Rivens that functions almost as an aura of constant damage
the more hit's or kills i don't remember which, it does, the biger it gets

[untold summit]

staff or q staff?

[rapid star]

Staff, a unique one, probably pretty rare

[untold summit]

damn, chayula still seems so gimped lol

all this chaos stuff and it just doesint work that well

[rapid star]

also Mark and Jonathan already said they don't want anything like rightious fire in the game, so the damage of that skill might actually not be great

and just be a fun gimmik

[untold summit]

damn, all i want to do is make holy freeze aura -_-

[rapid star]

it works well, if you get the unique suppot gems that gives 40% more damage as chaos damage, and all chaos damage contributes to Chill/freezing I think

[untold summit]

i just mean the gems socket into each other but dont actually function , also seems like other classes are better at chaos since it is more focused on Spells than attacks

i havent looked super deep into the uniques tbf

[rapid star]

no idea how trigger gems will be (I've read the patch notes but most of the nerf to it was indirect) so you can make the M&rder of Crows aura (i like to say that sorry lol) trigger comet or other spells with cast on crit and cast on ea

[untold summit]

yeah ill have to check that one out

just sucks all the parts exist but dont work together lol

theres temporal aoe slow, ice strike, and blasphemy

[dreamy bridge]

the only thing that can crit is the command part

[rapid star]

quite a few people did Ice strike Chronomancer back in S2 and 3 lol
And Blood Boil from Ritualist Exists, sure someone made an "afk" dot build for that one, all tho only works on non Unique mobs

[untold summit]

hmm havent looked at blood boil

[rapid star]

looks like they actually thought ahead this time

[untold summit]

really wanted to be monk cos its the closest to d2 pally lol

[dreamy bridge]

i mean the raven flock aura is a DoT. it can't crit because there's no hit

[rapid star]

Yeah I thought it was not a DoT, sine it has minion tag

and they said it would be treated as a minion

[untold summit]

it reads as an aoe dot, but also as a single minion

definetly "unique" lol

[rapid star]

ever since pounce was added into the game I gave up on their tag system

[untold summit]

lol , yeah what is this

Minion, Shapeshift, Werewolf, AoE, Melee, Slam, Trigger, Mark, Duration, Travel, Meta

[cold jacinth]

What ascendancies do you think are worth using for the raven flock staff

[rapid star]

any that adds power to minions

so all of Witch's lol

[cold jacinth]

oracle as well for the hidden nodes maybe?

[rapid star]

yep

[static plinth]

I think Disciple is gonna be super high up there

[rapid star]

Spirit Walker too, since it looks like it was made for the build theme

[static plinth]

Since theyre command focused and you get a Focus with your staff

[cold jacinth]

yeah disciple for the defense it offers

I was thinking of using that bird chest as well, for thematic purposes and cull but I don't know what you would spend the frenzies on

[rapid star]

would be nice if you could Use a scepter and the staff, assuming add # damage to companions would work on the skill

[tender nimbus]

is tame beast ok to use on a witch minion build?

[dawn sinew]

I mean Companions are considered Minions, so it does work

really depends on the build tho

I'm guessing you're going Varashta

[tender nimbus]

whats that?

im going witch, not sorc

[bold tree]

Do we know if Face Crusher will stack with Hollowpalm Technique?

Since Hollowpalm allows you to attack as if using a quarterstaff while unarmed?

Because I want to run a Hollowpalm Flickerstrike Martial artist and I think the extra flat phys dmg from the gloves would help alot

[twilit schooner]

Some of the mods on Facebreaker will work with hollow Palm, but not all of them unless something like Fists Of Stone changes them to work.

[primal dragon]

For Hollow Palm, do notables like One with the Storm still work? I would think no, but want to double check

[hasty sparrow]

any decent build for SoK manifest wep?

[bold tree]

So does the flat phys and str% dmg also go to my quarterstaff attacks?

[barren nacelle]

What are some ways to get physical damage taken as ?

Im playing a disciple

[dawn sinew]

oh my bad I misread that

I always get the 2 confused

Infernalist would probably be your best bet then

[twilit schooner]

"47% increased Stun Buildup
1% more Unarmed Damage per 5 Strength
+3 to Melee Strike Range while Unarmed
+1 to Armour per Strength"
All work for both

Hollow Palm doesn't work at all for any mace skills, and Quaterstaff skills do not get the Facebreaker Damage stacking

Thats not including whatever Fist of Stone does to Facebreaker's mods, as we don't know yet

[bold tree]

Bruh so it's almost not even worth using then

[twilit schooner]

together, most likely not, unless Fists of Stone changes them to be Dex based gloves or something

[minor tree]

lesgo, the latest notes killed one of the four starters i was pondering

we take those

[proven rapids]

How do you usually solve clear for skill without build in clear in poe2 ? Especially melee. I'm so sad there's no ancestral thing...

[twilit schooner]

You use a different skill that has built in clear

or do shenanigans

but different skill is easier on the sanity exile

[fickle thistle]

How could I scale Facebreakers damage and Grenade launchers together in the same build.
I understand that facebreaker goes in line with strength stacking?

[minor tree]

deadeye glory build?

doesn't this mean that you get a spear of solaris/hotg if you pop sniper mark twice?

[proven rapids]

I'm playing mace, maybe I should use molten blast as a clear skill

[proven rapids]

It did get nerfed quite heavily afaik

[proven rapids]

Looks very stupid xd

[real grove]

Hello. I'm rly low experience player. I would ilke to have fun in upcoming season. An I like this monk new feature with shadow copies. Can someone please share a budget, easy build for a beginner, to have smooth campaign and able to reach T15 maps and enjoy endgame, mb not ideal, but without struggle
🙏 🙇

[sharp thorn]

Yeah. Or banners if you want them for some reason.

[proven rapids]

Is ancestral call a good support gems to help with clear ?

[minor tree]

sounds quite cool for deadeye

[silver urchin]

The Bogfelled Commoner now has a Spectre variant for the boss version of the monster.
Is this a buff or a nerf? Any guesses?

[minor tree]

smells like nerf

they nerfed infernal legion too

IL3 is gone and the other 2 have half the damage

[silver urchin]

Yeah I member that part

[minor tree]

definitely a "no fun allowed" moment x)

[silver urchin]

I wasn't gonna play it anyway but oh well

[thorny inlet]

not really planning, but how do i get to the point where i can make my own unique and fun builds. from what ive seen, every build has a unique that makes it click, but i dont really know how uniques ineract with anything or drop tables

do i just study spreadsheets?

[fringe lagoon]

Not all builds require uniques, however knowing more about which uniques are in the game helps when making builds. No need to study spreadsheet, you can check uniques on pob or poedb.

[idle plover]

hi guys, i was watching a palsteron video about spelltotem in 0.5 and he mentions at one point that if you are using a sceptre for spirit "you will have to sacrifice your focus for it".
Does anyone knows what he meant by that?
I can still wield a sceptre and focus together, no?

[fringe lagoon]

Hey, ideally u want wand + focus, if spirit is needed then wand + scepter

Scepter + focus loses quite some damage

[idle plover]

ooh, i havent thought of that. im still thinking about poe1 where you cant wield wand/sceptre lol. Thanks!

[south cobalt]

yo peeps, why do people use garukhans? I know it gives bifurcation, but isn't getting your crit chance on your char from 50 to 75% quite achievable and you'd rather use another support gem? Or getting it past 50% is usually very hard?

[sharp thorn]

It's hard if the base is low.

Or if you are not in ranger/monk part.

[fallen mural]

would an armour/armour break/rage build like this work? i'm looking for input before making the character.

still looking for which skills i could use with it lol

[west wharf]

opportunity cost also comes into play - even if you can push past 50%, with garukhan's you can stop at 50% and pump the investment into crit dmg instead

[marsh thicket]

Question: I want to use Last Lament crossbow and for the life sacrifice I want to use heal on glory consumption from the passive tree. Would Zerphi's Infamy generate glory from the life sacrifice of LL?

[west wharf]

that rage decay starts later cluster generally isn't too valuable; rage decay already doesn't kick in particularly fast

[west wharf]

no

life spent is different from life sacrificed

[marsh thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[marsh thicket]

Of course it is, thank you

[west wharf]

i think if you're trying to permasustain last lament

an option to look into is maybe reverie

(maybe)

it looks to be one of the premiere sources of mega high life regen

[marsh thicket]

will take a look, thanks

[west wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HE6UQgLt9Q

this guy has a great theorycraft on reverie

[fallen mural]

swapped that node to skullcrusher

[west wharf]

i don't know if last lament would work well with it or not, but it's worth a look at least i think

[marsh thicket]

thanks mate

[west wharf]

you should drop off the random small nodes that aren't necessary to get notables

for example in that big armour cluster you clicked every single node

can drop off one of the small armour nodes even if you want all the notables there

same with the armour break cluster at the bottom

as well as the endurance charge cluster in the center iirc

and the random hanging small node in the upper armour break cluster

also a small armour node at the top

and one of those small nodes in the far right cluster, i forget what it does

[south cobalt]

Where can we get lucky for critical hit chance? I can't seem to be able to find a passive note on the tree

[west wharf]

you cannot

the only source of this is ulaman's gaze socketed into gloves

which gives crit chance is lucky against parried enemies

which i assume is not what you're hoping for haha

[south cobalt]

Hmmm.. so why Garukhan has that last sentence of crit hit chances being lucky? Just because of that glove thing?

Ohhh

[west wharf]

because technically it does exist, and there may be future sources added

[south cobalt]

So basically when using Garukhan, we don't expect to also have lucky crit hit chances

ig 😄

[west wharf]

correct

[south cobalt]

yeah, makes sense

[west wharf]

i'd say there's a decent chance we get some lucky crit sources in the future with assassin, so

futureproofing to some degree as well

[fallen mural]

better?

[proven rapids]

how squishy is that ? how likely am I to die while mapping and is this ehp OK if I have million and million of dps ?

[flat bolt]

Hi, I'm new. what is best for a DOT build? ranger poison, huntress bleed or mercenary burn?

[proven rapids]

huntress probably

tactician good too

[sharp glade]

depends on how many conditional boxes you have ticked in PoB or if that's just ES

if its ES ur good

otherwise its sus and you have clicked too many conditional

[proven rapids]

it's es

[sharp glade]

yea nvm chaos inf means you took ci

im silly

[open kindle]

Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place for this question but i have a query regarding interaction between combo finisher and culmination supports when used on the same skill. Can you use the two together or does using one of them interfere with the other?

[proven rapids]

at this point i'm just counting on runic ward to be a good option and save my ass most of the time

[sharp glade]

?

if you have over 10k es you are basically unkillable

[proven rapids]

I only have 5k

and no armor or evasion

[sharp glade]

oh then you certainly did click too many conditionals in pob

5k is far from enough

[proven rapids]

that's why I count on runic ward, can't get more than 5k really

[sharp glade]

what nonsense are you even cooking

[proven rapids]

a build using a shitty body armour making building defences almost impossible

[sharp glade]

?

it doesnt even give anything worth

all that for iron grip and will?

strength stakicng?

but why

[proven rapids]

yes str stacking

it's all for iron grip and will

but I will upgrade it to give runic ward instead of armour and evasion

if it work like this

[sharp glade]

brutus spprinkler?

[proven rapids]

yes

[sharp glade]

better builds for that

[proven rapids]

like what

[sharp glade]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Black_Scythe_Training

use a real armor

iron grip and will not worth that shit chest

[proven rapids]

how is it not worth lol

[sharp glade]

its just increased

[proven rapids]

a fuck ton of increased ye

[sharp glade]

you can get plenty of that elsewhere

1400% is not a fuckton its just a big amount

[proven rapids]

I doubt there's a lot of build achieving similar number

[sharp glade]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Titanrot_Cataphract actual str stacking builds use this chest

and black sun crest

[proven rapids]

if I do this I lose all my damage

[proven rapids]

https://pobb.in/B6TXGTpaaeEU I do have a version on smith of kitava that isn't squishy

roughly about 5m dps

still unsure about the chain part behavior of molten shower projectile

should help with clear in theory

[livid hamlet]

Hold on, can i have 2 of the same skill socketed but with different supports ?

[sharp thorn]

No, any skill can be socketed only once.

You can socket a skill twice only as a support to meta gems (I think).

[gray gate]

Hello guys, sorry if this was already asked - but do you think - basically the Fubguns build with Poison Pathfinder will be still playable in late endgame? I was looking at the nerfs and they seem quite large.

Thank you ❤️

[proven rapids]

unplayable

[past rose]

I mean, it’s playable, it still “works” but it won’t be comparable to a lot of other builds and a lot less than it used to be

[neon hinge]

"Waystone Modifiers that added Damage to Monsters, Penetrated Player Elemental Resistances, or reduced the Players Maximum Resistances have had their values reduced across the board.
The Waystone Modifier that provided Extra Projectiles to Monsters has been disabled."
New in Patchnotes from today. Max hit requirements just got reduced! ❤️

[livid hamlet]

Well most of the max hit issues come from Phys anyway

[flat jungle]

Goodbye arc totems

[livid hamlet]

Can someone who played more ES tell me how savage the nerfs to ES were ?
I want to play Firestorm Stormweaver but the build was okayish even before the nerfs

[sharp thorn]

Max hit is same, recovery was nerfed.

[flat jungle]

Only recharge got nerfed so try to avoid recharge and use a diffrent recovery method

[livid hamlet]

Is there a different recovery method ?

[flat jungle]

WTF THATS HUGE 0mana cost spell????

[flat jungle]

Yes the keystone that makes you recoup prevented phys dmg ghost dance temporal rift and more

[fringe lagoon]

Can play convalescence

[flat jungle]

Oh no coc got buffed

[flat jungle]

Is nerfed aswell because of recoup speed

How rare is scattering calamity because i think that spell will be insane now its one of very few dmg spells that are free to cast

[pale anchor]

Guys, do you know what the maximum physics damage in PoE2 is to avoid crashing from a single one-shot in this game, because I can't find it anywhere?
2k 5k 10k?

[neon hinge]

Are you talking about how much load the Physics Engine of the game can handle?

[pale anchor]

i meant this

how much max phys hit its reqiured

to avoid one shot

by strongest boss ingame

[flat jungle]

1 million

[neon hinge]

Well 10k is lready enough for the vast mojority of hits

[flat jungle]

More phys max hit is always better because armour mitigates small hits by up to 90%

10k is i think solid 20k is tanky everything above is giga tank

[pale anchor]

looks like gigatank

[neon hinge]

For a single hit 10k should be already very high, no?

[pale anchor]

what is this abomination

[flat jungle]

Ice nova chronomancer

[proven rapids]

how are you so tanky, that's suspect 🤨

[flat jungle]

If youre a glass canon yes

[flat jungle]

I put enfeeble 13% dr in config and chronomancers new 30% dr node

[proven rapids]

if my build have 20million dps, i should be fine with 14k ehp ?

[pale anchor]

pob plis

[twilit schooner]

Double everything and you will be good

[flat jungle]

https://pobb.in/9dURJ9vpkn9_

[proven rapids]

uh, for real ?

[neon hinge]

That is quite interesting. I have also been told that 20k ele max and 6k Phys max is plenty for juiced endgame.

[twilit schooner]

It for sure wont hurt

[proven rapids]

i believe 20m is already trivializing the whole game, don't need more

[flat jungle]

If you watch fubgun yes but never listen to him when it comes to tank he is ALWAYS full glass cannon

[neon hinge]

Oh no no. I was asking in here about good max hits if I want to be tanky.

[twilit schooner]

yeah you are good

[neon hinge]

So now I am here. Looking at my planned build that was supposed to be hard to kill and get told it is a glass cannon

[flat jungle]

Yeah no 6k phys 20k ele is not tanky at all you can avoid most white or blue enemy oneshots but already a rare can oneshot you

[neon hinge]

Pretty much all the effort I made in this build is making it more tanky. aronud 90 passive points dedicated to it and the entire gear is focussed to make me more tanky...,

[flat jungle]

Pob?

[neon hinge]

DISCLAIMER: I do not claim to have made the optimal choices as I am somewhat new.
https://pobb.in/oHKVNYm22Ukd

Custom Configs are to estimate the recovery gained from the reworked Ritual Body.

And Exposure

[flat jungle]

Ywah idk what you do that body is trash i dont have to look at anything else

[neon hinge]

Do you understand what this Body represents?

[flat jungle]

IS IT THE NEW LIFE FLASK BODY?

[neon hinge]

Yes

[gentle veldt]

people who started using ember fussilade + arc + spark + orb of storm in the campaing. How long did you keep the ember? is it good all the campaing in the bosses? Because in act 1 and 2 was pretty good

[flat jungle]

Ah sry caps

[flat jungle]

Yeah idk if you can make it really tanky hybrid builds are always worse max hit wise than pure es builds and you miss out on the biggest source of es from body

[neon hinge]

I mean I am not opposed to going full es but that would half the recovery.

brb

[livid hamlet]

It's pretty sad that Thunderstorm doesn't benefit from any elemental infusions

[neon hinge]

I mean. i did not check it yet but replacing all life rolls on gear with more ES, Same with the Amulet might be higher Max hit? Is that maybe what you are telling me?

[flat jungle]

I dont think you can become realy tanky on infernalist with the body armour

[neon hinge]

Well that's sad.

What are typpically dangerous Rare monsters? Not asking about the mods but the mosnter itself. I would like to look up their stats.

[flat jungle]

The mini silverbacks abyss monsters with beams and slams and many more

[neon hinge]

Do you have their names?

[flat jungle]

No

[neon hinge]

The last thing I need to estimate if I can tank juiced Rare hits is their skills damage multiplier.

[flat jungle]

Is there a way to set mana cost of 1 skill to 0 in pob?

[neon hinge]

My guesses:
X has 100% less cost
X has 100% reduced cost
A line that sets your life costs to 0 and adding the support gem to the skill in question that converts mana cost to life cost.

[flat jungle]

Because i wanna simulate his scattering calamity with the 0 cost buff and archmage

[winged rain]

<SKILL> has 100% reduced mana cost

[mellow shale]

Does the buff from Staggering Palm roughly double the single target damage of whirling assault? I understand whirling assault can hit one target 8 times, so would that be 8 projectiles from Staggering Palm that all also hit the target?

[drifting cedar]

is my math way off or is falling thunder the highest potential effective damage hit in the game?

[winged rain]

elemental sundering is better but near impossible to get the condition

[drifting cedar]

ok just looking at 20 quality with 5 power charges and the +1 counted charge on the tree for quarterstaff. 437 damage x 2 (consumes a charge) x 5.2 (70% more damage per power charge x 6 counted charges) = 4545% effective damage hit on a lvl 20 gem

you can go to 30 quality with martial artist and other stuff. Easily get more than 5 power charges

but that's 50% more damage than a lvl 40 hammer of the gods already

it's also a slam and melee so can use combo, ancestral boost

that math is also for a lvl 20 falling thunder

[neat breach]

at the end of league, was there a clear winner of what ascendancy did the best with the plant build?

[twilit goblet]

which one to play for the safest most chill campaign + mapping leaguestart

spark stormweaver
witchhunter explosive grenade
monk martial artist

[drifting cedar]

ascendancies which get a lot of gearing slots / stats for free tend to be good league starters

so witch Hunter with sorc ward shoring up defenses, or martial artist with runes and stonefist

[winged rain]

martial artist seems absolutely ridiculous

[drifting cedar]

pick your poison. martial artist looks very stupid strong

I think falling thunder martial artist with basically any other clear skill, including spears, bows, crossbows, will be extremely good and relatively easy to gear

[twilit goblet]

hmmm

[drifting cedar]

and I'm not even planning to use the bells which will make melee a meat grinder of a build

he's spoiled for options

[twilit goblet]

storm wave or glacial cascade i guess?

[winged rain]

i don't even think you need to do that. whirling assault hollow form seems broken

[exotic compass]

Varashta gets crit weakness, faster start of es, on demand screen wide overgrow button

Bloodmage just gets sustain that only matters for your CoC choice, plants are cheap. Not super needed for crit chance but always good, and you can get super tanky with life + es combined hit pool

Oracle lots of fun nodes, wifi technology, crit is easy to scale and dumbed down

Dommy mommy demon form always gonna exist

Chrono not too bad, cast speed/AOE node is lovely for entangle and stopping time for bosses is comfy

Chayula omega damage as extra chaos, and kinda tanky.

So no

Pick based on themes you enjoy, and potential respecs to other builds or ascendancies within the class 🙂

[neat breach]

really interesting. i was also thinking about chrono for safety

thanks for the breakdown

[exotic compass]

Deadrabbit does abyssal lich for the physical corpse pops with blasphemy, along with sacrificing minions to gain es or es recharge

Raxx oracle

[twilit goblet]

anyone know where i can watch someone league start monk from 0.4 ?

like the first 24 hours gameplay

[neat breach]

i also saw someone mentioning a ragestack shaman plant druid being good too

[exotic compass]

There is a shit ton of leaguestart practice rn YouTube has what you need

Streamers getting coached by speed runners, people posting beach to tier 15 runs, etc

[twilit goblet]

yeah but its mostly just a1 to a4

[exotic compass]

Tuadh

Phalanx

Xthefarmer has been doing qstaff runs to maps or t15s all week

[twilit goblet]

nice ty

[exotic compass]

Shits funny ngl

[twilit goblet]

xthefarmerx lol

[exotic compass]

Takes chat advice to a fault sometimes and just goes wit it

[twilit goblet]

the "my items all sold overnight how lucky" guy

[exotic compass]

He's smart and a good player but for sure downplays it for content

[twilit goblet]

[exotic compass]

But sleep is the longest part of being away from the game!!! It makes sense!!! 😂😅

[proven rapids]

Reverie is insane

[twilit goblet]

fr

but 48% less Life Flask Recovery

and low es/armor

[flat jungle]

Is there any spell you can put in COC that has 0 mana cost?

[winged rain]

no, but you can use a really low level one

smith cast fire spell on hit and mjolnir have 0 cost

[proven rapids]

that's not even an issue trust me

having 2k life recovered per second is crazyy

as well as 2k mana per second

[flat jungle]

Because of the scattering calamity changes that its now a 0 cost spell could be huge if you could use a second free dps spell in coc

But scattering calamity is TERRIBLE in pob with titan and all reduced skill duration on tree +compressed duration how many projs per sec do you get 10?

[proven rapids]

With some investment on three and this flask to begin with :

85% increased life flask Recovery
30% more Recovery from flask (Oasis)
15% increased Life Recovery Rate
Reverie minimum roll : 40% less Life Flask Recovery

+85% increased Recovery = ×1.85
30% more Recovery = ×1.30
Reverie 40% less = ×0.60

613.3 × 1.85 × 1.30 × 0.60 × 1.15
= ~1018 life/sec

Now, you double it with Waistgate

And finally you make it also recover mana with Amazon Azmerie brew

Now you have 2k life and mana recovered per second

[winged rain]

flasks can't stack effect, so waistgate is useless

though you could do shav for es regen too

[brazen marlin]

This is a pretty sick change for his scattering calamity builds

[proven rapids]

ok, still 1k es recovery, life and mana per second sounds good

[winged rain]

yea it seems pretty strong. you want to go recovery rate on the flask for multiplicative scaling rather than increased

[proven rapids]

there's no such stat on flasks

you meant amout recovered maybe ?

[proven rapids]

that's what is on my screen

...

[brazen marlin]

I wonder are there any supports that really benefit from a zero base cost?

[winged rain]

oh i was looking at your calc, and only saw 15%

[proven rapids]

15% is from three

[unreal girder]

what do you do with plants before you get thunderstorm? do you just play ED/C?

[exotic compass]

Volcano, bone cage, essence drain, realistically any wand or staff with spell levels that's cheap can carry you

[dreamy bridge]

yeah just adapt to whatever +level spell you get first

[twilit goblet]

if u do this much why not just play PF

[proven rapids]

pf can't apply it to mana, you need to press the flask, it's not 100% uptime

[left ravine]

heya. when looking for spells that are cascadable or repeatable. on poe2db. can i search for spells supported by Spell Cascade support and Unleash?

[dreamy bridge]

Supports Spells that affect an area around you or a target location
Not sure of a page that highlights those specifically, but this is the only real requirement. Could probably figure which ones fall in this description at a glance

It's the same requirement for both

ok, figured it out. just open skill gems then enter this in the search bar:
-Trigger Spell AoE -Channelling -Meta -Projectile

[flat jungle]

Can i support reap with spell cascade for shitgun?

[next aurora]

You could use Reverie

[steel mirage]

Is there no way to copy a link or something from mobalytics into POB?

[next aurora]

Link the mobalytics build?

[steel mirage]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/guythatdies/builds/0-4-mercenary-grenades-leaguestarter

[next aurora]

Most mobalytics builds people have shown me have had map-level PoBs as a separate link somewhere in the build guide

But yeah this just doesn't

[steel mirage]

is it because it's just a leveling build?

[next aurora]

It's level 52+ is for mapping

[steel mirage]

I just find the tree to be glitchy and laggy af lol

[next aurora]

It just doesn't have a link or code to copy/paste to PoB is all

[steel mirage]

I gotcha

[next aurora]

You can always copy the build into PoB manually just for the tree

[steel mirage]

So i'd have to copy all this info into POB if i wanted it there lol

i may just do that, not too hard

[next aurora]

Yeah blame the build guide creator lol, most I've seen make a pob link

[steel mirage]

appreciate your help

[next aurora]

This is the reason why they made it so you could only do 1 projectile hit in 0.5

It's also a slow skill in regards to usage frequency for power clear, and it's also incosistent without power charge generation investment in single target

I ran a max power charges possible falling thunder in 0.3 and it one shot every boss I came across, but took a second to build if it was an isolated boss without ads

The main difference here is that Hammer of the Gods doesn't require really any investment for its damage, but you have to actively invest in max charges for the mileage on Falling Thunder

Hammer of the gods is weaker than it should be imo though

Actually facebreakers rager might break it completely lol

Honestly if I play martial artist I'm probably gonna go for back-bell 100% crit combo-transfer

[proven rapids]

how do you know this btw ?

[next aurora]

It functions the same as PoE 1 in that regard

[proven rapids]

ok ok

[next aurora]

You can have 2 different flask types doing the same effect stacking though

Not affix effects though

[winged rain]

It just takes the highest one. You can have 2 active, but the other doesn't do anything

[next aurora]

Just altered main

[winged rain]

I mean, just test it. It should be testable with waist gate already in the game

[next aurora]

In this case you could have a mana flask and life flask both on and it'd apply both effects, but because of the setup you're trying Waistgait won't matter lol

[pliant solar]

how do you make alt weapon set subtrees in pob2?

[brazen ginkgo]

Has anybody tried a Hollow Palm build using a purely defensive ascendancy? Would there be enough damage? I was thinking of leveraging Discipline of Varashta for its ES and ES Recharge Delay defensive capabilities, which works well with the ES/Evasion stacking of Hollow Palm. The only "offensive" capabilities of Disciple of Varashta would be Baryanic Leylines for bigger radius on time-lost jewels. The actual itemization would be identical to any other Hollow Palm build for the most part. I'm just worried about the damage output and wondering if people have tried this.

[next aurora]

Click the points bar at the top with the 3 sets of colored numbers

[pliant solar]

holy shit it was this

thanks

[next aurora]

A bar color coded will show up at the bottom to display what points you're currently allocating'

[primal plaza]

Fire wall feels very awkward to try to fire through, does fortress decrease the damage buff?

[next aurora]

No, but it will reduce the value of the wall's ignite because it's based off of a simulated hit

[native lance]

how do I modify and compute the magnitude of the shock on an enemy on pob2

[next aurora]

Like a shock you're applying to an enemy?

[native lance]

yeah

just wanna see how much shock magnitude I should be getting on the spirit walker stags

[next aurora]

It's just the base magnitude (100%) + the modifiers (x%)

Then the resulting number is a flat multiplier

[native lance]

then I just add the % increased dmg from the shock which is 20*shock magnitude right?

in the config

[next aurora]

Assumedly they changed the wording to allow shock effect to be a multiplier effect in the future

Magnitude should be calculated correctly in PoB

[native lance]

aight

thanks

[next aurora]

Should show up here

I wouldn't really trust the total damage numbers but it should work for the damage taken effect

Oh also there's a clac tab box for it as well

[next aurora]

Btw keep in mind they made shock cap at either 100% increased effect or 100% damage taken

I can't remember which

But I'm fairly certain it's 100% taken

[native lance]

I don't think it's very feasible to make shock effect for up to 100%

[next aurora]

Uh

There are methods that previously broke the game

800% damage taken shocks were a thing

[native lance]

lmao

that was a bug tho right?

[next aurora]

No

[coarse crescent]

it is fairly easy if you invest a couple jewels and use the right supports

[coarse crescent]

uhh it was capped at 100% per instance since 0.1

[next aurora]

Jewels, supports, and tree

[next aurora]

It was a mid 0.3 change

[coarse crescent]

no

[native lance]

the stags get 20% more per leap

so at the final leap it's 80% more assuming they count the first for the 20%

[next aurora]

I had a build in 0.3 that had 400%, tooltip showed it was, and my damage increased as I was scaling my build to the 400%

Then 3 weeks in my tooltip went down and so did my damage and had to redo my build and find out why

[native lance]

what supports should I use to get up to 100% then

[coarse crescent]

literally not possible

[next aurora]

K

[next aurora]

One of the easiest ones was Overcharged, but you have to build around self-shock

Also, if you're making a shock effect build, I recommend using shock related skills

[native lance]

i'm using primal strikes

[next aurora]

Plasma Blast got nerfed on it's shock buff, but it's pretty good

[coarse crescent]

you can just slot in comisserate on the same skill to not get self shocked

[coarse crescent]

well, that one cant even shock cause it consumes shock

[next aurora]

Really smart, never thought of that

[native lance]

yeah i'm using the vivid stampede from spirit walker to apply shocks

and then smacking monsters with primal strikes

[next aurora]

Using auto effects to apply non-dot debuffs is really smart, but you have to get them consistent with it or it won't feel good

Just an fyi

[native lance]

so commiserate + overcharged

for giga shock magnitude

and some jewels probably

[next aurora]

It's a pretty good usage

There's also shock mag on tree that is pretty good sized

Though that's monk side

[native lance]

I wonder if shock mag and chance on jewels will get scaled by the lightning quality catalysts

[next aurora]

I believe they are tagged as lightning and ailment affixes

I'll have to double check