2┃build-planning

[pastel forge]

i get like 4% cold from tree and 15% from heart of well

no cold on my wand rip

[mortal swift]

what about a ring?

[pastel forge]

ring kinda important since mana stacker

will probably just get a wand with extra cold

[mortal swift]

its time to play adonia's ego

[pastel forge]

idk how much of it will freeze though

i did consider adonia but

how to adonia as plant

[mortal swift]

whats the problem with plant and adonia?

[pastel forge]

to build power charges i need to consume infusions no?

build with sparks?

[mortal swift]

Ah yes but we just do it on wep swap with firestorm and ice bomb

[pastel forge]

doesnt it take a long time to build full charges?

[mortal swift]

no, one frost bomb one firestorm

2 secs

[pastel forge]

huh, it isnt just 1 charge per remnant?

[mortal swift]

well tbf me being stormweaver does give me a lil more remnants

but also theres a rune that gives 50% chance for extra power charge

since my build is specced into max charges I can get 8, I cast with ~4 remnants and get max charges

Also like if you just create infusions normally with like siphon elements and not consume them u can just consume with firestorm on weapon swap

[pastel forge]

yea stormweaver will be easier i guess

since you can echo frost bomb and can get all 3 ele for firestorm

[mortal swift]

u dont need all three

duplicates are fine

u use unleash and it will consume duplicates

[pastel forge]

mm

something like this i guess

[pastel forge]

wanted to take the 40% duration nodes too but ran out of pts

[pastel forge]

oh yea since adonia's buff is ele dmg, that means its only gonna scale my archmage damage

my base plant phy dmg not affected

[mortal swift]

thats true

but usually as a mana stacker your archmage is far higher dmg than your base dmg

[pastel forge]

yea its gonna be at least 2/3

[mortal swift]

duration of what? the adonia buff?

[pastel forge]

yea

i got 45% skill duration on weapon set 2 right now

[mortal swift]

you dont really need it if you are generating infusions. Just run siphon elements if you can

and recast once a minute or two minutes

[pastel forge]

archmage+dalias and CoC is gonna be 161 spirit

i'll have roughly 60~ spirit left

[mortal swift]

well siphon is 60 ;)

[pastel forge]

30 i think

[mortal swift]

oh yea it is 30

:D

even better

[pastel forge]

yea could just run siphon + mana remnant

[mortal swift]

[pastel forge]

skill lvl for pinnacle is fixed at 20 yea?

[silent glade]

yes

[pastel forge]

holy shit just discovered execute iii

godly support for low life

[west wharf]

ye it's very nice

in reality it's not actually a 39% more dmg supp

but it's still very good

cus u never really bring mobs down to the 35% low life threshold perfectly

[pastel forge]

that part is whatever, its the 30% more dmg thats great considering others like deliberation is 20%

[west wharf]

yea kinda depends on the build/skill

[pastel forge]

or am i looking at outdated info

[west wharf]

a lot of single-target skills get supports that are pretty comparable to 30% more dmg

[pastel forge]

ok its correct 30% more

[west wharf]

cus if u stuff garukhan + rakiata's on ur skill then there's only a few slots left, so they end up pretty high quality

for my spearfield for example, minion pact 2 for 35%, ele armament 3 for 36%

[pastel forge]

entangle
considered-accelerated growth-branching fissures-execute iii

last slot phy mastery or deliberation i guess

[west wharf]

ye it's incredibly good on skills that have poor support options

ur playing a plant lich?

[pastel forge]

plant infernalist

spicy plant archmage crits

[west wharf]

oh

i can't bring myself to play lowlife infernalist and lose hh

[pastel forge]

tbh i still havent touched hh at all

couldnt be bothered lol

[west wharf]

i love the 100% more aoe from hh too much

[pastel forge]

well flying around on demon mommy is pretty nice too

[west wharf]

i still wanna see like

a high ms + surefooted sigil demon mommy in action

see how far the dash goes lol

[pastel forge]

add in reverse chill cause why not

[fringe kelp]

is totem damage completely its own type of damage? or does attack damage or spell damage also increase totem damage?

[brittle anvil]

totems inherit your offensive stats

[open tusk]

can someone help me understand weapon set points? cuz it seems like they use the same points as normal, so im wondering why specify a specific weapon instead of just making it a universal effect

or point me to a guide would help

[static torrent]

You have the regular pool of passive points, and then the weapon set passives. You can assign any passive point as a weapon set passive, up to the maximum number (24 after finishing campaign by default), allowing you to assign it separately between set 1 and 2. The benefit is that you could have one set with, for instance, passives to improve your Curses, and the other with damage for your offensive skills, allowing you to get the benefits of both without needing to waste points on either thing when they're not needed.

[mint marsh]

How does deflection an evasion interact with sorcery ward?

Same as life?

[near pasture]

I get that res changes in endgame, but how do I see what is negating my res from my gear? I can’t seem to survive for a long time in maps

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/blankphace-6306

[mortal swift]

u didnt share your character

[near pasture]

Sorry, on my other account

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Michaelides-3156/character/blankphace

[mortal swift]

nothing is negating your res, late game penalty is -60% and you just dont have enough res

[near pasture]

Fair

So, just boost up my armor with T1 stats and div til I get max?

That’s all I can do really, huh

Or get a better base and roll for res primarily

I also need more spirit. My amulet holds me back

[mortal swift]

well first of all your rings are atrocious, think about getting 'add to attacks' and res mainly

second why do you need more spirit? You only need 15 spirit on amulet for everything so you can get the one with 15 implicit and be fine

third, you can easily get a 400+es helm with double res for less than a div

500+ is also cheap

4th get +levels on your bow quiver and amulet

atleast 3 2 3

[mortal swift]

oh are you ssf

[near pasture]

No!

[mortal swift]

then why arent you shopping

[near pasture]

So I can have ghost dance and wind dancer

[mortal swift]

count how much u need

[near pasture]

I think I need 10 or 15 more. I’m not on my pc rn

What’s 3, 2, 3? Tiers? Sorry, this is my first time getting into endgame

[near pasture]

Because, iNoob

But I will shop

Add to attacks for phys dmg?

[mortal swift]

level to skills, they scale your damage a lot so like +3 on bow +2 on quiver, +3 on amulet is kinda expensive but u can do +2

[near pasture]

Ah, gotcha

[mortal swift]

not just phys, since u run plaguefinger u can get any add to attacks on ring

[near pasture]

Oh yaaaaa, I forgot about that

[mortal swift]

quality your ghsot dance

[near pasture]

As long as you just have +att

Doesn’t matter the ele

[mortal swift]

yes

[near pasture]

Does quality to a skill - needed spirit for it?

Okay, thank you

I forgot about that

[mortal swift]

30 + 30 + 30 + 25 is 115. so u just need an amulet with 15 implicit spirit, i.e., any solar amulet base item

[mortal swift]

no only for specific ones.

[near pasture]

So ditch the gold amulet and get a solar

Ahhh, okay

[mortal swift]

also, if you are shopping for an expensive ring you can get one really good ring and use kalandra's touch with it

get your ring first and buy helmet and boots and amulet accordingly to match res

[near pasture]

Thank you so much

So, you wanna be in the ballpark of like 35% to 40% res on each piece of equipment

Preferably, multiple ele

[mortal swift]

yea I usually use the total res or total ele res filters on the trade site

and u can sort that in desc

so like I put the other stats I want and the res and keep pushing it all up until its top of my budget

[near pasture]

Ty!

[soft raptor]

So I'm playing a hybrid Ice Shot and Lightning Arrow Deadeye, and as I'm getting closer to endgame I feel I need to spec into either
I like both equally
Which one is generally better?
Which is better for bossing and/or mapping?

[severe jacinth]

If i have boots with 10% movement speed is there a way to make that a higher % without changing any other stats

[rotund tartan]

i have a question about cast on crit builds - does damage at all factor into how often it gains energy? like I am running oracle right now, with the inevitable crit node allocated and what I understand is that my crit rate is basically 100% but the damage is reduced based on the number of times it re-rolls. i'm noticing that coc doesn't trigger as much on packs of normal enemies and I'm wondering if the reduced damage is factoring into that somehow

[brittle anvil]

short answer is yes

it's the "modified by the percentage of the enemy's Ailment Threshold", but sorry I don't feel like explaining it xd

[rotund tartan]

ok so I do have to invest in some crit to get this working

[brittle anvil]

yeah for oracle you would want to be around 30-50% crit chance, then invest in crit bonus of course

[rotund tartan]

ok got it. i found the reddit thread with the graphs lol

[west wharf]

well no

if u do enough dmg at a baseline u don't need to invest into any crit necessarily

[rotund tartan]

the curve does go up at around 0.35 crit chance

[west wharf]

it is quite common to scale into crit regardless just because, well, damage

but it's not necessarily a must

[uncut bay]

lightning arrow is obviously better

[soft raptor]

Why is that?

[uncut bay]

just more damage while clearing and on bosses

ice shot has always been off meta while lightning arrow could be the most popular build in the game's history for all I know

ice shot requires specific mechanics with snipe on bosses, not everybody likes that, play around with that before you decide

[soft raptor]

But Ice Shot has like way higher base damage than Lightning Arrow, isn't it?

Are you counting Lightning Rod's damage as well?

[hollow bronze]

Does Pob calalate plus 1 levels in sockets or do I add that in the socket drop down?

[uncut bay]

I am taking lightning rod into consideration, it's part of the build

lightning arrow should have faster clear and bosses, that's all

[soft raptor]

So for an LA build the mark to go would be the one that gives crit damage?

[pastel forge]

pounce is the best mark if you are not using 2nd weapon set

[cloud pebble]

I'm trying to rough out a Blood Mage COC build in HC, but I don't have to currency for Fast Metabolism anoint. I've just been pathing all the damn way down and I'm using Soul Tether and Atziri's Acuity. I have 7k energy shield currently, lvl 88, but it still feels a little bit bumpy. And it doesn't deal as much damage as I want.

If I went MOM/EB, do I still need Fast Metabolism? Does Energy Shield Leech restore Mana if you have Eldritch Battery?

[pastel forge]

are you able to farm chaos trials? the 10 stages

each run gets you 25d from selling the fate

that should easily afford you the anoint

[cloud pebble]

they sell for 7 ech in HC

[pastel forge]

oh hc

[cloud pebble]

I don't know what I can and can't farm. I just got to maps yesterday, did a couple low level maps with Spark and it was eh, tried Frost Bolt it was eh, got to leech temple and now I can do lower maps easier, but I got scared and thought I should go back to the drawing board after getting to low ES levels in a T11

RIP is scary and Blood Mage Leech is kind of chaotic

do you know if ES leech restores mana if you have EB?

[pastel forge]

coc bloodmage is pretty much one of the more expensive builds especially if you dont know what to get at bare minimum, definitely not a great first build if you are not at least following a guide

hardcore isnt gonna help either

[pastel forge]

and no, es leech does not become mana leech with EB

converted stats dont benefit from previous state in terms of multipliers/recovery etc

[cloud pebble]

oh nooo

Maximum Energy Shield doesn't buff Eldritch Mana!

that's crazy.

[brittle anvil]

yes because you converted your es away

conversions happen before increases

[cloud pebble]

okay oof lol ok, I'll do MOM but not EB, that seems too scary. not enough flat mana :\

[brittle anvil]

but if you do then you will have more points into damage, who cares about defense right

[cloud pebble]

It's hardcore :\

[brittle anvil]

oof

[cloud pebble]

I have a Soul Tether with Leech slower but Atziri's Acuity. The Leech slower does nothing though right

[brittle anvil]

yeah

[lethal orbit]

Can you use a Quipolatls Medallion(+1 to room) on a sacrificial chamber and get a sacrifice room in the same turn?

[bitter wasp]

I doubt that, it usually happens only when You place sac chamber

[fringe kelp]

does using lightning warp on ball lightning create a lightning infusion as well? or only on cull-range enemies?

[cloud pebble]

Is there any way to self-hit so I can proc my Sierran Inheritance?

[fringe kelp]

self-hit most often comes from that one helmet

i forget the name, but it actually hits you when you cast spells

Does anyone know if you can make arc shotgun somehow?

[fringe kelp]

does this work with spells?

it says the word "fire" which may or may not mean it only works with bow/crossbow? idk

[west wharf]

fireflower, scold’s bridle, heartbound loop, volatility

though temple-modded shackles are the usual way to proc sierran rather than self-hits

[cloud pebble]

yeahhh, theyre just too expensive

not rolling any good ones

heartbound loop doesn't seem to be potential solution, it says damage taken, not hit

[west wharf]

it is a self hit

it’s used for iron ward builds

[cloud pebble]

oooh

I'm looking for a way to not have to gmble all my div's away since I just RIPped. Is there known good gear to "beat the clock" on Shackles? If I can just increase the chill duration to 6 seconds, I'm good lol

[fringe kelp]

it almost feels like GGG forgot spellcasters when they decided on mod options for gloves.... like, 9/10 of the modifiers on gloves are for attack builds

particularly prefixes are AWFUL, but even suffixes are mostly attack coded, like we get attack speed as an option but not cast speed? why not?

[cloud pebble]

there's less caster classes than attack classes overall no?

[west wharf]

yes

there is

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TD4iD6wkAqI&t=319s&pp=ygUWUGh5bGFyaXMgcmV2ZXJzZSBjaGlsbA%3D%3D I had a dumb reverse chill bear build I ran a while back where I talked about how to do this near the end of the video

I’m on mobile rn so it’s too annoying to put timestamped link

it should be in the timestamps near the end of the vid

it’s not as good as having the full modded gloves, but if you can get a near-min roll chill lockout pair and run chill dur time lost in a good spot

you can get fairly good uptime on ur reverse chill for much cheaper

[cloud pebble]

omg ty

ooh smart, didn't even think of all that, tysm

playing Disciple this time around so I'll for sure go for the timeless strat

[fringe kelp]

is unleash seal-gain time based on base-cast time? or modified cast time?

e.g. does increased cast speed also help seal-gain-time?

[pastel forge]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/19e68

okay this is based on my current gear

not sure what else to tweak around, am considering putting ele weakness into CoC instead and use the ancient augment on glove for more regen and just manual thunderstorm, depending on how bad the mana drain will be

[severe jacinth]

Can anyone critique my build and help give tips for more DPS and survivability please?
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1476072734592340070

[serene saddle]

can someone provide some feedback on my build? I am struggling with flasks mainly, any tips on how to improve survivability in t15 corrupted maps and above are appreciated: https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/xWolf91-4345/Cpt_BM?i=3&search=class%3DBlood%2BMage%26name%3Dcpt

[fringe kelp]

Does withered+shock add together or multiply together?

[uncut bay]

your vilenta's propulsion is completely useless in your build

you should have cost efficiency on gloves/helmet instead of support in spark

rapid casting and pierce are not the best spark supports imo

[fresh sequoia]

all sources of increased damage taken add together

[fringe kelp]

yeah that's what i thought, thx

[burnt mist]

Hello, I have lifedrain on furious slam but it doesn't heal at all when I kill with skill

[fringe kelp]

if you have 100% reduced slowing potency of debuffs, and then have temporal chains on you, do you still get the "buffs expire slower" part of temporal chains? Or does that get nullified as well?

[west wharf]

you retain that part

that’s why there’s self-curse temp chains pf builds

[fringe kelp]

nice. What about if you have 100% reduced effect of curses on you?

do you lose the "buff" part?

[west wharf]

then that part wouldn’t do anything yea

[radiant lake]

Any good class and build that is fun early on in the game and OP by the time you get to the end game. Example plant Druid

[stuck karma]

Anyone has a guide for this one/super close to it? I'm looking to play something similar next patch. Feel free to dm. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exs9Wm6dMfs

[exotic compass]

get high gem level as possible (40 is cap)
get % minion damage on your sceptre, jewels, and passive tree
run two evergrasping rings + chaos innoculation keystone
choose offhand = +2 minion focus, 50 spirit prism guardian shield, or trenchtimbre

looks like they dont use muster, they run an entire army of just frost mages and 1 storm mage. makes sense for bossing

looks like they use frost bomb as well as TWO curses, due to their minions gaining so much damage as extra chaos. solid debuff setup especially with shock and wither

[normal pumice]

In terms of debuffing, is there a big difference between elemental weakness + frost bomb for elemental damage compared to despair and withered stacks for chaos damage?

[brittle anvil]

I'd say chaos is better, curses and exposure have a 50% less effective on unique enemies; wither doesn't, and wither is a damage taken multiplier like shock, but it requires more work to put up wither

[exotic compass]

sutff normally has 0 chaos res, more often than ele at least. so cursing alone, without exposing, reaches the same levels on average

holy formatting on that sentence but ill leave it be lmao

[rapid lily]

anyone know of any good ice builds? like any ice shot or ice arrow builds?

[brittle anvil]

luckily you didn't mention budget, self-chill ice shot is a "play it before they nerf it" ice build

[rapid lily]

ive only got a few hundred div lmao

[brittle anvil]

[rapid lily]

herald of thunder hurts my eyes in huge mobs lol so i want to switch from that build

im going lightning arrow atm

[keen charm]

what is the benefit of Avatar of fire keystone? It says "75% of Damage Converted to Fire Damage
Deal no Non-Fire Damage". Sounds like a major reduction to damage, no?

[brittle anvil]

when you want to ignite with a non fire skill or scale elemental on a physical skill, it's niche, like every other keystones

[tight burrow]

Sorry. I am still confuse on empower attacks.. Maybe my question does arctic howl increase my shred attack when it procs?

[whole silo]

Hi can anyone tell how to proc more comets which is socketed on cast on crit gem with blood mage ascendency i am procing very less comets i have 74%crit chance i am using spark as main damage

[hybrid ocean]

Do you have any sources of increased energy gain?

There's also overwhelming presence

[west wharf]

to be fair you can start reverse chill ice shot on a few hundred divs

the modded shackles are only 200divs now

[fringe kelp]

aight i'll finally bite: what is all this reverse chill nonsense

i keep hearing about it

no idea what any of it means

[west wharf]

it's pretty straightforward

imagine how much ass your character sucks when it's on chilled ground

now imagine the opposite happens

and it's up all the time

that's reverse chill

your character just becomes a poe1 zoomer

[fringe kelp]

okay, so that's the effect of it, and it sounds rad

[west wharf]

you get it by wearing this chest

[fringe kelp]

oh, reverse chill

literally reversed chill effect, ez

[west wharf]

yer

then finding some way to inflict chills on yourself

[fringe kelp]

and then you constantly make yourself chilled via what, self hit via that helmet?

or reflecting chill via some support gem?

[west wharf]

this is the premiere way

though there are other ways (i.e. self hit)

[fringe kelp]

ah

but then you need to do big cold damage i presume

with hits

[west wharf]

no not really

you don't need to do a ton of cold damage to chill

but it's helpful if you have a decent amount yeah

[fringe kelp]

to inflict chill dont you need to surpass a certain threshold?

like you can't do 2% chill or w/e

[west wharf]

yerr, but the thresholds aren't particularly high

chill is pretty easy to inflict

[fringe kelp]

but like a 10% chill will only speed you up by 10%

so you want to inflict big magnitude chill, no?

[west wharf]

you're chilling yourself

your own ele ailment threshold is wee n tiny

[fringe kelp]

hrm.... that doesn't make sense tho

it says the AILMENT is reflected

not the damage that causes it

so wouldnt it just give you whatever % you inflicted on the enemy?

[west wharf]

not to my knowledge no, i.e. base chill duration on monsters is 8s and base chill duration on yourself is 2s

and you inflict a 2s chill on yourself

though you could be right

i'm not positive on the exact details

all i know is you pretty much always max-chill yourself

i've never not max-chilled myself

[fringe kelp]

interesting

so rather than reflecting the ailment, it like, reflects the basline "infliction parameters" of ailment

or something

[west wharf]

this is my understanding yes

which (again to my understanding) is why this quiver works with reverse chill

[fringe kelp]

uhh, wait, wouldn't this increase the damage YOU take?

[west wharf]

yeah

but then it's reversed

so you take no damage

[fringe kelp]

😕

lol

wat

so that's an effect of chill

and its reversed

damn, that's strong

[west wharf]

correct, it's capped at 85% but i don't think you can get chill mag higher than 83.5% anyway

but either way

basically you're running around with a 1.835x multiplier on all of your actions

[fringe kelp]

so that's just flat out 80% DR?

[west wharf]

and you havee 83.5% damage reduction

correct

[fringe kelp]

well that's not busted 🤣

[west wharf]

not all reverse chill builds use asphyxia ofc

but it is arguably the strongest overall form of reverse chill

given that you take like, zero damage

and can just facetank anything

[fringe kelp]

does that even apply to DOT?

[west wharf]

i think so yes

but i don't think there's any dots that are relevant

cus you have to get ignite immunity period

otherwise you oneshot yourself with reflected ignite

(unless you have zero fire damage, no headhunter, and never click a meteor shrine)

[fringe kelp]

i mean bleeding/poison/blood pools/abyss crap

[west wharf]

yea you're CI so

[fringe kelp]

theres lots of DOTs in the game that can wreck you

[west wharf]

them dots do no dmg anyway

[fringe kelp]

physical dots still do dmg?

bleed?

[west wharf]

ci is bleed immune

[fringe kelp]

ah

[west wharf]

for some reason

[fringe kelp]

but what about blood pools on ground?

[west wharf]

immune to bleed

you just don't take dot damage as CI if you're immune to ignites

[fringe kelp]

so all those effects count as bleed then?

[west wharf]

well, unless there's some lightning DOTs etc

to my understanding yeah

i could be wrong on this one

to be honest i've not run into any situations where i could see it ingame

cus reverse chill characters just blast offscreen

[fringe kelp]

lol

i'm playing this game WAY too fair lol

[west wharf]

@fringe kelp ah nevermind

i think corrupted blood is considered separate from bleed and will still apply against CI

[fringe kelp]

but it doesnt go through ES

maybe?

[west wharf]

nah it doens't

[fresh sequoia]

Blood pools definitely do damage to CI

[west wharf]

only bleed goes through ES

blood pools will hit your ES instead of bypassing

[fringe kelp]

anyway the point is that the 80% DR applying to DOTs IS important then

cause if it didnt, the DOTs could wreck you

[west wharf]

i'm pretty sure it does apply to DOT's

cus it doesn't specify hit damage or any such

[fringe kelp]

right

[west wharf]

it's just flat dr%

super bonkers broken

i'm not sure if reverse chill will be removed next league, but surely the asphyxia interaction will be changed somehow

[fringe kelp]

yeah, you could just get like, one piece of ES body armour and that takes care of all survivability alone lol

[west wharf]

outside of asphyxia's builds, reverse chill builds are generally somewhat squishy

since they by and large sacrifice the chest + glove slots

you can do chest + heartbound loop/fireflower/scold's instead but that method seems quite janky compared to shackles

since the self-hit damage is quite tiny

you'd prolly have to go CI and have like literally 0 ES to ele ailment threshold

[fringe kelp]

ugh, worst luck ever... took me 44 divs and then 34 divs to roll a 1/10 chance twice :/

[west wharf]

watcha diving

[fringe kelp]

179% phys damage

[west wharf]

https://streamable.com/9y34kq

but yea this is what reverse chill builds end up looking like

quite in line with the vision i'd say

[fringe kelp]

wtf lolol

this is insane

[rapid lily]

Okay so I’ve got 3 builds I’m debating on.

Ice shot Amazon/pathfinder

ice shot with snipe bloodmage

Permafrost bolts witchhunter

[compact tulip]

Is there anyway I can make a skill NOT kill enemies? I remember in poe1 there were a few ways to do this but I can't remember if poe2 has this.

to clarify^ meaning the skill can do damage and bring enemies to 1 hp, but can't kill them

[hybrid ocean]

We had this in the form of a legacy support, but it was removed this league

Changed to a chaining support too, so there's not even legacy versions on standard

[hexed stratus]

I am new player playing a rampage druid shaman build. It doesn’t use minions or anything. Why does the build guide have: “Allies in your Presence deal 104% increased Damage”. From my understanding this is of no benefit to me so why does the build have it? It is not a support build so I know it is not because of that.

[wide dew]

Attack speed and spirit

[hexed stratus]

I understand the need for those. Just not the allies one.

[wide dew]

Maybe you don’t need it, but it was here as a placeholder or because you don’t need anything besides the AS/SPIRIT so it doesn’t matter.

I have a scepter with 210 spirit and that’s the only thing that matters, the rest I don’t care. I have minion life, allies dmg etc

[dusky mica]

im playing invoker hollow palm. will i use this glove for a long time? im lvl 31

[exotic compass]

hollow palm id say +2 melee gloves but both should be fine... thunderfist gloves at 78 i believe

[dusky mica]

thank you bro

[exotic compass]

if ur getting pummeled then get +2 rare gloves with resistances and whatever defense (life in campaign, es in maps typically)

[pastel forge]

do i even bother with accelerated growth on entangle if im not autocasting thunderstorm?

[civic flame]

Fellas, I love using rend and getting power charges to just tear through everything but the issue I'm having is there is nothing for me to devour to get power charges in (most) boss fights and end up being unable to use my main damage, how can I circumvent this? lvl 32 for ref, don't know what relevant info to provide so do ask for any if need be

[pastel forge]

get lingering illusion

dodge in front of bosses so that they can hit it and you get a power charge

[civic flame]

is that a skill, a gem, one of them skills that use spirit? I'm new to the game so forgive my ignorance

[pastel forge]

yes spirit gem

[spare quartz]

Anyone know if increased magnitude of non damaging ailment increases freeze duration?

[pastel forge]

Magnitude would be for freeze build up not duration

[west wharf]

it’s just the sceptre the guy happens to have

there’s not a lot of useful rolls

you end up with some meaningless stuff

[unique sonnet]

So i sold my spark temporalis build and looking for something new thats not BM any recommendations?
i have 5 mirrors to do a fun build

[spare quartz]

Found this on my SSF frost wolf druid from T2 king of the mists anyone familiar with the build? Would it work

Also did they nerf it? Haven't played since season 1 wasn't it just one big boost to both rings

[wide dew]

They hard nerfed it yes

IF you have good rings, run it

[spare quartz]

Ouch, I'll test it out for now

[west wharf]

what u consider fun

power-wise ur not matching coc comet so it depends what ur looking for

[mental aurora]

Less than 2 months of waiting for news now. Ahhhhh

[mental aurora]

Was the easiest way to max out Resistances + 150% MF for my CI build before I got into more expensive stuff. I'm sure there's probably better use cases, but that was were it did some work for me.

[hybrid ocean]

Man, I really hope axes or swords have a high frequency sink for lots of charges

Be it frenzy, endurance or power

[tiny jay]

I need help with my build I have a monk

[static torrent]

You may want to provide more info than that. A class alone says very little about what you're doing, and what you're having issues with.

[rich creek]

Working on a beefy build right now with smith, mainly armor stacking and armor applies to element. I have around 8000 armor at base right now and 12000 applied to all elements. 1200 life and 50 life regen, 117 regen when standing still (unique ring), all resistances are max right now and my main damage is iron ward and deadly resolve on resonating shield. Currently lvl 42 on act 3.

[hybrid ocean]

While this is true, the fact that they make that mistake means it's very likely they're using a quarterstaff

[cloud pebble]

Question about Fork/Chain/Pierce, especially with Snakepit and Frostbolt: I understand that a bullet cannot hit, Fork and then after Forking, then Chain. That would obviously create an infinite loop. Can a piercing bullet even fork or chain? And if so can they stack for that one single first hit? (bullet hits enemy, pierces X through enemy, forks X and chains X, they hits enemy and stops there, no piercing/splitting/forking).

[static torrent]

Even then, there's at least a few directions you could be going with using Quarterstaves, so advice that's relevant to one build may not be for another.

[hybrid ocean]

Oh of course, not to mention what the actual problems with any given execution of that build might be; Follow-up questions remain essential

I was just being a bit cute lol

[late laurel]

Twister defs does get multiple, Whirlwind I still have no idea since the graphic only ever has one element on it

[west wharf]

a projectile cannot chain off an enemy after piercing or forking off it

[cloud pebble]

I understand that. What I'm asking is different

[west wharf]

what did you mean by "can a piercing bullet even fork or chain" then

[late laurel]

I may be getitng them mixed up idk for sure, big one gets multi, spear one no

[west wharf]

are you asking if they can all happen simultaneously on one monster?

if so then no

[cloud pebble]

so a unsplit/unforked/unpierced projectile can absolutely only do one of these

[west wharf]

on a single monster yeah

[cloud pebble]

can a forking or piercing projectile ricochet off of terrain?

[west wharf]

yea

[normal pumice]

Noob question, what part of Incinerate does it's 6% critical hit chance apply to?

[swift lintel]

All of it

[late laurel]

Meant Tornado yeah, that one gets 3. Whirlwind and Twister both idk whether they get multiple cuz of the graphic

[north heart]

What’s better oil barrage or twister?

[hybrid ocean]

Can a piercing projectile chain off terrain more than once?

And if so, can it do so to the same target?

I would expect the answer to the latter to be no

[west wharf]

yes

[west wharf]

yes

[hybrid ocean]

Oh damn, really?

[west wharf]

no i'm pulling ur leg

yes

[hybrid ocean]

Does chance to chain off terrain act as surpassing then?

[west wharf]

no

[hybrid ocean]

Or is it per-collision?

[west wharf]

chance to chain off terrain is singular

but works with dominus grasp

[hybrid ocean]

Ahh

[west wharf]

so it can be doubled to 2

at least as far as i can tell, if you get 1 ricochet the second ricochet off dominus is guaranteed

even if you only had 50% chance of the 1st

[hybrid ocean]

I see

Makes it a good bit more niche then

[west wharf]

but you need some method to make the proj not end on the monster

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, gotta pierce twice

[west wharf]

either pierce twice, or pierce then fork

the exception is if you're doing oil barrage nova proj salvo

because like 80-90% of the initial projectiles don't hit the boss first

they hit the ground first and ricochet onto the boss

so a singular pierce/fork will be enough

it'll go ground -> ricochet onto boss -> pierce or fork -> ricochet onto boss

with fork, the forked oil barrage projectiles fly too far to ricochet back onto the boss naturally

so they must either hit a wall, or hit a frost wall

with pierce you don't need either, because ricochet targets the monster

so it'll go

ricochet off ground -> hit and pierce monster (it'll look like it isn't piercing because it stops right on the monster, but it's actually piercing and simply landing on the ground right "below" the monster because that's where the initial target location was) -> ricochet back onto monster

//

i think if ur doing bonestorm the proj's don't fly as far off fork

so i'm assuming if you have 1 pierce 1 fork it'll go

bonestorm -> hits and pierces boss -> ricochets off ground onto boss -> forks off boss onto ground -> ricochets back onto boss

without requiring a wall or frostwall

don't quote me on the bonestorm stuff, haven't tried it myself

but i'm fairly sure that's how it works for oil barrage - i was doing testing on this earlier today

https://streamable.com/0t9aov

here's a dmg example using lv 1 weapon with no rings no gloves

so no external flat source

using ricochet -> pierce -> ricochet

all in all very balanced stuff, very in line with the vision

i probably should've actually had some pounce wolves in for predmark

this is also with 0% ricochet chance from tree

and a dead support slot because i'm running pierce support instead of pierce on tree

can get 100% pierce on tree with like no investment if ur bottom tree

anyway tldr yea it works, hence nonsensical dmg

[hybrid ocean]

Yeesh

Lmao that's amazing

[near jewel]

Noob, skill issues, solo stones, delve at 350-400 - is bleed lacerate of haemorrage Gladiatorro good for me?

[woven depot]

#1┃build-planning

this chat is for Poe 2

but bleed glad is ton of fun

[near jewel]

Ehh...my bad...sry

[severe jacinth]

Can someone please give tips on how to improve damage without spendind 9000 divs on a better weapon https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Ninerpack-7284/character/KatnisEverdeez

[west wharf]

your rings are hella poop

spears have rly low base dmg cus 1h

need good flat from rings

boots are super poop, if you're not going for ms% boots cus of whirling then you can get way higher eva boots than that

astramentis is pretty poop compared to a rare amu

you can look for some mix of +3 proj, spirit, eva%, life, max life%, resists on a rare amu

amazon kinda not very useful if you're noncrit

you basically only have 2 actual nodes from amazon, open weakness and stalking panther

[severe jacinth]

that amulet is giving me like 30k dmg

[west wharf]

why's that matter

it's mathematically a lot worse than a rare amu

you only want it if you absolutely need it for attributes

[severe jacinth]

all the attack speed with high crit spears are 9000div

[west wharf]

if you want higher dmg noncrit, the type of setup you're using isn't particularly good at a baseline tbh

you're kinda just losing half your ascendancy + aren't running a setup that gets a lot of %inc dmg naturally

[west wharf]

high crit spears are expensive but not 9000d expensive

you can absolutely get one for less

but

if u want to stay roughly with ur current setup that's fine

[severe jacinth]

i tried finding a spear with high base physical, attack speed, accuracy and crit and theyre hella expensive

[west wharf]

i'd start with ring upgrades for sure

[west wharf]

why high base phys

ele is fine

you have mystic harvest

[severe jacinth]

does ele dmg not scale off of phys?

[west wharf]

do u need it for the armour break resonannce?

[severe jacinth]

i am using armor break for frenzy charges

[west wharf]

not unless you have gain phys as ele%

[severe jacinth]

really? i thought all ele damage scaled off the base physical dmg

[west wharf]

huh

if you have 100 ele dmg, vs 100 phys dmg with 100% phys to ele conversion, you end up with 100 ele dmg either way

[severe jacinth]

plus im only using the whirling slash and twisters mostly for clears and those are physical right?

[west wharf]

no they're whatever dmg profile you have

phys dmg is important if you have gain phys as ele%, you rly need armour break and don't have spirit of wolf rite of passage, or if you need phys dmg for leech

you don't have gain phys as ele%, you're amazon so you don't need phys dmg for leech

but you do need armour break for ur resonance so

it is probably a good idea to have a decent amt of phys

but it's probably good if u look up a basic video on how dmg scaling works in poe2

you might be mistaking it with how conversion etc works in poe1

well, one way or another you don't necessarily have to change setups to make upgrades

1. invest in some better rings with good flat

or just 1 ring and a kalandra's

2. set up some weaponsets

weaponsets offer a ton of dmg potential

you can separate out some of your attack speed onto a whirling slash set for better movement

and take dmg nodes on ur twister/glacial lance set

i'd start there before anything else

[severe jacinth]

whats ms%?

[west wharf]

movespeed%

[severe jacinth]

ah i see

[west wharf]

usually u'd go for 30-35% movespeed boots, but if u don't care about movespeed cus u move purely with whirling slash then u can just run 0% ms boots

with triple evasion or double evasion+life prefixes

[severe jacinth]

what could i do for the weapon sets?

im assuming its a piece of gear

[west wharf]

typically whirling twister builds shove whirling slash in wepset 1 with a buncha attack speed passives

any rly fast spear

corrupted skysliver is common

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/papicon4649-1022/hydeeeeeeeeeeee?i=2&search=skills%3DWhirling%2BSlash%26class%3DAmazon%26items%3DSacred%2BFlame%26sort%3Dlife

for example

random amazon i pulled but

his red tree (wepset 1) has abunch of attack speed stuff on it

wepset 2 more dmg stuff

not saying to copy this guy's tree

but the base premise of the wepsets is very typical for amazon whirl twister setups

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/amrita0612-3170/あむよん?i=0&search=class%3DAmazon%26skills%3DWhirling%2BSlash

most amazon whirl twisters you click will have this kind of wepset division

with a skysliver or fast rare on wepset 1 with a bunch of attack speed in wepset 1 tree

and then dmg in wepset 2

[severe jacinth]

so its just basically rigwalds ferocity that does the weapon set stuff?

i dont even have enough currency for those builds lmao. i did change some of my gear but now im too squishy

[west wharf]

no

the passive tree

you get 24 points to assign to each wepset tree

the red and green points

[severe jacinth]

oh i see

which color is which?

[west wharf]

red wepset 1 = whirling

green wepset 2 = dmg

your dmg weapon doesn't need to have high attack speed, cus u whirl with the skysliver

dmg weapon prio is high flat dmg (+crit if going crit)

[severe jacinth]

I guess those builds are focusing more on dmg than evasion or deflection which is what I have focused more

So it makes sense why my damage is lower

[west wharf]

not really sure what ur budget is but

this is a fairly reasonable purchase for the price point imo

assuming you set up a skysliver/rare AS spear in wepset 1 and bind whirling slash to it

you don't really need attack speed on your actual damage wep since you just throw out twister

this is about as much raw phys dmg + acc as you can get on a +3 crit spear in this price range

the next spear with this much flat for an amazon doesn't rly show up till 400divs+ or so

your wepset 1 would use something like this

or something like this if you want a cheaper option (it doesn't have an attack speed rune socketed in yet so it's underpriced)

[severe jacinth]

I’m wondering how that build is getting so much dmg for the twisters. I feel like I have a weapon that has both high dmg and attack speed and crit

[west wharf]

you don't need atk speed on ur twisters

you want high flat for them

the weapon i linked should be a good pickup compared to ur current

just ignore tooltip stuff

it'll look worse on tooltip because it has no AS roll, but that's hella fake on twister

@severe jacinth https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate of the Vaal/jWbO47KocX

trade url for amulet options that are mostly much better than your current

solid 5x t1 7div option

another great cheapy option

also a good cheapy option, though sanctified so you can't change the crappy anoint unfortunately

very good option to hit with a couple divines and defense quality if you want lots of eva%

lots of good choices on here rly, take your pick -your current is only +1, ES dead prefix, accu roll low

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate of the Vaal/RJPDbXVZF7

a very open-ended ring search

your current rings are pretty poo and very easy to upgrade

even at 1div there's very clear upgrades

this can be hit with 20 fire qual to upgrade 4 different stats (the implicit allres, flat fire, fire res, allres) - tbh very cheap ring for the stats

another good option you can hit with cold quality

your helm is very easy to upgrade - this one's not qualitied or vaal infused yet

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate of the Vaal/WvZJ87pZfm

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate of the Vaal/Bg7m6jywC8

there's also good cheap pure eva options if you prefer that

in general if u shove i'd say around 200divs into upgrading ur gear ur character will be like 3x stronger

[severe jacinth]

I was just trying to get the most chaos resist which is why my rings are poo and I just realized chaos doesn’t count in the “all res”

I appreciate your help. It’s my first real character I’ve tried with so I’m still noob

[west wharf]

ye np

generally when u do resist searches

i would do it vaguely like this

psuedo - total ele

pseudo - total chaos (weight 2)

and then put a weighted sum minimum where the x is

this will value 20 chaos res as equivalent to 40% of an ele res

if you want chaos res even more you can bump it to 2.5 weighting

this will catch all res on implicit + suffixes including from hybrid resists

[severe jacinth]

ah good to know thank you

[west wharf]

so for example the helmet search parameters are like this

and you can tune them to your preferences

care more about res? knock down the critchance weighting or remove it entirely

want life? knock the minimum evasion down to like 800 and put a max life - minimum ~150 or so

[nimble zinc]

I need congregation numbers. Does it scale each Dom Blow minion separately? Can you scale it up to 50% easily? What builds would actually benefit from it as a link?

[west wharf]

keep in mind you have some room to flex

since you have a ton of % ele resist runes in your gear

[nimble zinc]

If you have 3 HROC, will it give you a 4th?

[west wharf]

if you see a really good cheap ring deal that overcaps you on ele res but doesn't have chaos

you can just swap some of your runes to chaos resist% soul cores

so for example that 1div ring is mega underpriced in relation to its value to your setup, so if i were you i'd be willing to grab it, fire qual it, and swap to some chaos res soulcores accordingly (assuming it actually fits with your resists)

[west wharf]

this is poe2 build planning

@severe jacinth depending on ur goals you can also self-craft some rings

if you want to learn how to do some basic crafting

not a bad idea if ur newish

you can easily craft rings with 40-50+ chaos res for a few divs

[severe jacinth]

Okay ill see what I can do thank you

[upbeat ruin]

I've a question about utility spectres, for example : If I have perfect pain artist, what level of Zealotry does it give ?

[hybrid ocean]

Pretty sure you're in the wrong channel. #1┃build-planning

[hollow cave]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/pyamy-4571/character/pyamy

any tips or ways to further increase the damage? do i need to craft a different wand with more raw damage over gain extra?

[wide crest]

anyone here using coc and coa druid oracle?

[celest zealot]

Any suggestions as to how I can squeeze out more poison damage against bosses on this? Ideally without resorting to crit
https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/TheMightyAltroll-0368/character/PilkSlurper

Was considering cutting out most of that left side, I just wanted the gem slots for the massive AoE on my gas memes

[uncut bay]

my life is also 0,5, but my chaos res is 6, flat damage around 15

there is no way 10% chaos res is as good as 40 life like in your search

and with your flat damage value it might just not find rings with enough flat damage. what I often do is a separate group for flat damage

and many mods are missing ofc

[west wharf]

this was like a 15 second parameter i set up for him to tune the constraints for his own build

i'm not fine-tuning weightings in a case where i don't even know what resists he needs and in what amounts

[west wharf]

10% cres = 40 max life is fine to me as a baseline parameter on a build that's fine with either on a ring, not sure what you mean

that's a 25% cres to 100 maxlife ratio, roughly matching up with their t1 mod values

if someone wants life more they can bump the number up, if they want cres more they can bump the number up

[west wharf]

because he's running a couture of crimson build and working on a budget

if this were a search for triple flat breach ring on a 5000d budget then naturally the flat values would be separated out

for his case specifically, it's perfectly fine if the parameters turn up a triple flat ring or double flat with life, or even single flat with life and rarity pre's because he's lacking in all 3

he can browse through the results and pick accordingly

[west wharf]

because they're not mods he's looking for

[uncut bay]

the t1 values can match, but the effect on survivability will not, or how expensive these mods are on rings, I strongly believe 0,5 life, 3 ele res, 6 chaos res is the golden standard

fair enough about flat damaga and other mods, I see

[west wharf]

he's running a couture of crimson build

[uncut bay]

okay idk his build, sure

[west wharf]

i don't normally put life with as much weighting on rings

but couture of crimson 1.5x's your max life total with leech overflow

he's running around purely with life pool and 0 ES/sorc ward etc

so getting good flat life rolls is really important for him to not get oneshot

so yea i consider t1 life and t1 chaos res both of high value for him

a good hitpool is necessary to survive all damage types, whereas chaos res only helps vs the least common damage typing
and an evasion couture setup typically won't have a ton of max life coming from str stack because dex based gear - so good flat life rolls become even more important

also eva builds typically have a much easier time with chaos dmg as is; you avoid most of the shotgun chaos hits from the breach tentacle mob that's typically most dangerous in standard play

on a couture + evasion setup i'd rather have a good hitpool first even if it means i can't quite cap out chaosres, as opposed to having fully capped resists but a mega small life pool

(though of course in the end you'd like to invest enough currency to get both)

[west wharf]

even on a non-couture build i would never use 0.5/3/6 parameters

if a build doesn't care about life it shouldn't have life in its search parameters

and if it does care about life, a 0.5/3/6 split doesn't make sense

life is a pre, resists are suffixes/implicits

searches should be maximizing value to your build but also maximizing rolls per affix

0.5 to 6 equates 10 chaos res to 120 max life

that's equating a tier5 suffix to a perfectly divined tier 1 prefix

if a perfect div'd t1 prefix is worth the same thing to your build as nearly the lowest tier of a resist possible, imo that prefix shouldn't even be in the parameters

[drowsy marlin]

IS this guys build good?

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/fubgun-poisonburst-pathfinder

[marble canyon]

as a witch is there a good way to convert lightning damage into chaos damage?

[brittle anvil]

original sin ring, that's like the only way to convert to chaos

[marble canyon]

ok tks

[hollow cave]

how can i scale or increase choir lightning bolt damage? trying to see if i can use choir in 2 man temple runs.
right now ive got 85k per bolt with wand and sceptre, should i lose the sceptre and replace with rathpith or switch to the staff?

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/pyamy-4571/character/revolta

ignore the wolves, i was testing with the abyss buff tech

[static torrent]

There's at least one thing you're getting wrong, you might want to check which game's channel you're in.

[pallid knoll]

Oh right, haha

not the first time that happens, sorry

[thin plinth]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/DreamScape-3772/character/DreamBears

I dont think there is anything I could do to make the build even better unless someone has an idea

[dawn meteor]

random but goated name

[west wharf]

[hybrid ocean]

'new love'?

[west wharf]

it's a band name

[hybrid ocean]

Oh

[barren hornet]

currently on a plant build which i think is almost purely physical aside from thunderstorm, does rakiata's flow only benefit me only if my staff has gain % dmg as [elemental] damage?

[west wharf]

p much

[barren hornet]

damn cheers

[glossy oriole]

Is infernalist any good with a melee build?

[sly knot]

hi this is a random build i did because i cba to follow guides and it seems to be working pretty cooool for now, what are kinda next steps i should be taking in terms of armour upgrades or staff or something ? https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1a170

[sly knot]

i have like 460 exalted atm

[thick thunder]

isnt there some tech for spawning a few little enemies every so often? like a tincture maybe?

[fresh sequoia]

Is this a poe1 question?

[thick thunder]

was lmao

[barren nacelle]

Does going over 100% recoup do anything ?

[atomic halo]

sure

200% recoup means you get 2x the damage taken back

there's no cap

[rapid lily]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/xkk10l44 is there a reason why this guy puts his weapons at weapon set 2 but all of the skills at set 1??

[uncut bay]

why? leech temples

[oblique marlin]

anyone tested that?

[static torrent]

You may want to check which version of the game this was made for, because Flicker Strike does not have that Quality effect in the current version.

[fringe kelp]

no but it sounds awesome 😄

still gotta gain initial charges somehow and keep them tho

[static torrent]

Again, Flicker Strike doesn't have that Quality effect anymore, so that's a good 59% chance not to consume a Charge gone

[half gulch]

holy hammer is good?

[hybrid ocean]

Rip

Maybe we should look into other skills potentially broken by quality though

Anything that reduces something

[thick nova]

so the new herald exceptionnal gem has revived my love for herald of thunder. any way to farm thoses exceptional gems ?

[static torrent]

If you're talking about the new PoE1 Exceptional Support Gems, https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[thick nova]

ah mb sorry

[static torrent]

Is that a PoE1 question?

[opaque horizon]

Does poison conc use flask charges from a specific flask? Like left to right?

[oblique marlin]

folks any viable thorn builds exist in poe2?

[oblique marlin]

so i tested Vaal Siphoner and you can do crazy things with it
but need a lot of patience and time
for example, you can boost 1 mod on amulet (all other 5 mods will be siphoned from maximum tier to lowest)
but this mod will be huge, may be will be useful for some niche builds.

for example

• 56% to int/dex/str
• 280% ES/eva/armour from body
• 67% cooldown recovery rate
• 28% quality of all skills
  etc.etc.

but this will be amulet with only one useful mod.
you can fracture Spirit 50 or +3 skills and also do the same as above, just final values will be not so high, due to less available mods to siphon from

[west wharf]

you can check out kal torak

he's done a buncha thorn builds

[pastel forge]

any point in using shocking conduction II on thunderstorm if im using high level one thats also buffed by archmage + adonia? or is the base hit too small?

[thick thunder]

why dont people use the transfigured dom blow? isnt it better if you dont have soul gain shenanigans?

[west wharf]

because dom blow doesn't yet exist in our fine game of path of exile 2

[thick thunder]

fml

[west wharf]

[thick thunder]

i did it again

[spare quartz]

Lunar assault converts 80% of physical to cold damage and adds 10% psychical, but when i take the passive tree node of 35% increased physical damage my Lunar assault only goes from 5600 to 5700 damage anyone know why? It takes my shred from 7600 to 8600

[celest oxide]

Realized I like poe2 way better than 1 and got the itch to play again late league, what should I build?

Have played, Spears Blood Mage, Ice Shot Deadeye, Wyvern Oracle

Ummmm what else

Xbow Tactician

@west wharf got an itch to play again you got any new build hotness going on?

[celest oxide]

maybe something QStaff actually

[exotic dragon]

does anyone know any decent supports with bogfield commoners using xoph's pyre/infernal legion? im looking to do as much damage as possibly can

[rich creek]

Does anyone know how deadly resolve stack? Mainly later level s (20+) but any info appreciated

[west wharf]

uhh i played a pretty fun spearfield/primal strikes witchhunter

i tried qstaff but didn't enjoy it too much

and then i messed with oil barrage and found some nuts-ass tech

but it already does so much dmg without the tech that it doesn't have room to shine

https://streamable.com/gf1rr2

here's the dmg with a lv 1 weapon doe

dominus grasp ricochet

[celest oxide]

Wyvern keep Wyverning

so dumb lol

[glossy oriole]

Can anyone help with Power Charges?

I'm (Infernalist) thinking of a workaround using Warcry to remove ignite (passive keystone node), and Warcry's cd can be bypassed by consuming an endurance charge.

If I take resonance then I need to generate power charges.

So either power or endurance, what is the most effective way to do so as a Spellcaster. I just need 1 charge regularly rather than a whole bunch since 1 charge would remove the cd for warcry already?

[west wharf]

that sounds like a bad idea ngl

you self ignite every time you crit, so you’d have to warcry constantly to clear the ignites

should just get ignite immunity, 100% reduced ignite mag on you, or 92%+ reduced duration of ignite on you

[glossy oriole]

and on the topic of just the charges in general?

[west wharf]

what do you want the charge gen for if not warcry bypass?

there’s tons of methods for charge generation if you do want them

for pcharges cast on crit profane ritual, cast on minion death profane ritual with boneshatter minion pact, ailiths chimes culmination II on something like pounce or chayula with a strike skill like shred or whirling assault, voll’s protector, temple-modded red flare conduit, resonance + any frenzy charge gen method like sniper’s mark or combat frenzy

endu can be generated with ferocious roar + roaring cries + raging cries warcry spam, armour break III on any skill that you fully break armour on, fury of the mountain + brambleslam + rage forged I combo if you have rage, resonance on any of the pcharge generation methods

scold’s/self dmg with the notable that makes you take % phys as random element with the respective frenzy/power charge on dmg taken unique charms, etc

infusion of power to generate charge every time you consume an infusion, pcharge generation skills like lingering illusion, killing palm, devour

temple-modded hateforge on rage builds, charge profusion/serpents egg/other gain extra charge on charge gain stuff with any of the above charge gen methods

there's more methods ofc but those are some of the main ways charges are generated

i've no idea what build you're playing so idk which would fit

[glossy oriole]

Thank you @west wharf I'll have a read when I get back!!!

[pastel forge]

% DMG Inc to physical/cold etc only apply after conversion, shred by default is 100% physical unless your weapon is mostly elemental

[opaque horizon]

for viper strike of mamba do both weapons need hits cant be evaded, or just one? Assuming not stacking accuracy.

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[static torrent]

Since you've mentioned an Axe: https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[tribal dew]

dang it thanks. i always keep screwing that up

[pallid mason]

anything i can pair with crackling barrier to keep it up all the time?

[obtuse zealot]

Anyone know if I can static strike with hydrosphere for dmg cheesing somehow? With void shockwave or sth? Specifically normal static, not gathering

[mystic shoal]

is RF good for delve?

[viral torrent]

As a witch can I use chaos and fire together? I wanna build a caster witch who can also use some flame spells

[north heart]

Can anyone recommend an oil barrage build from leveling to endgame?

[uncut bay]

@west wharf

[uncut bay]

you can get + to spell skills, blackflame ring, but even then it makes no sense

[rapid lily]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/d4orpoe-6798/character/_Lynxx_ what do yall think of my build? how can I improve as far as damage goes? I realize my time lost sapphire isnt really doing much for me so i know im gonna swap that out . But anything else?

[stoic chasm]

Chat i have a question: If i use Energy Blade, but i had a Shaper influenced sword before i turn on Energy Blade, do i still count as wearing a shaper item for purposes such as Venariu's Astrolabe?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[uncut bay]

why would you stop ark from chaining with snakepit?? makes no sense

replace the embitter support maybe

I understand snakepit helps your fireball, but you can't just butcher your self casted spell to make your meta skill work

[rapid lily]

oh the guy had that on with the build, i guess becuase fireball

makes sense

let me link the video , maybe theres something im miussing

[uncut bay]

you have way too little ES on your rare items, get much more

[rapid lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd5dte0b1Gw&t=9s

[uncut bay]

cool build, I like it

[uncut bay]

take the breaking point notable for 2 skill points for christ sake

I have no idea what is up with breaking point

nobody takes it

damage penetrates 4% of ALL elemental resistances and 30% shock magnitude, it's insane value for 2 skill points

[rapid lily]

so instead of stormcharges i should do breaking point

[uncut bay]

what? ofc not, take both

like if you take one you should also take the other

[rapid lily]

oh okay, where would you think the skill points shouldbe taken our?

out*

[uncut bay]

any of your small passives?

[rapid lily]

or should i make that my next level up for passive points

[uncut bay]

your have small passives that are not required for a notable, you can sacrifice them

[rapid lily]

gotcha

[static torrent]

Penetration isn't that valuable if you are using a Curse, Exposure or Rakiata's (or even without those, you can do insane amounts of damage in this game and most enemies don't have all Resistances), 6% more damage from Shock is more valuable, though

[uncut bay]

another thing is your time lost jewel, you are not abusing it enough, maybe get a from nothing for Conduit, take way more notables

I mean, here

where you have your timelost is an inferior spot imo, you would have to take the daze notables, just 2 notables for your timelost jewel doesn't make sense to me

[uncut bay]

I don't say it when I see rakiata's flow, but he doesn't have rakiata's and most of the time you deal damage without curse and exposure, so that elemental penetration becomes valuable

[rapid lily]

i have rakiatas, its just not on the build so i didnt know where I could slot it in

[uncut bay]

but yes, even if you ignore penetration, 6% more from shock would already be 3% damage per skill point which is great

this is what I have on my essence drain lich

but as Varashta you can take use of that stun threshold notable as well and take invocated efficiency

[rapid lily]

damn , the cheapest from nothing that has conduit is 88 divs. So ill have to sabe up more because ive got about 30

[uncut bay]

and energise isolation maybe

make sure you are farming at least 80 div per hour

[rapid lily]

wtf

how is that even possible lmao

i just farm breaches and a still dont see that much

[uncut bay]

80 is a very low number in today's economy, I always consider the chaos trial the base line, you just farm 4 chaos trials per hour

sell the fates for 20 div or whatever

but if you wanted mor than that you could leech temples, farm expedition splinters and what not, leeching temples takes some skill though

[rapid lily]

id honestly rather farm them myself than let someone do the farming for me and me just follow them around

[uncut bay]

I have to admit leeching temples does feel like you are a hyena gobbling up leftovers after a lion 😄

but it makes you rich. try chaos trials otherwise then, very simple

[rapid lily]

DUDE, i took snakepit off and honeslty had no idea arc was that crazy

i did kalandras touch for now

[uncut bay]

I mean...just read the arc's description...chains 10 times...

[rapid lily]

since my breeach ring seemed decetn

me see build shoot fireball, me copy, me no read

[static torrent]

It's very important to consider the properties of individual skills when creating or changing a build, such as is in this case

[rapid lily]

also put in breaking point

[static torrent]

Something that's amazing for one skill can be terrible for the other, and vice versa

[rapid lily]

honeslty is making my fireballs proc WAY more often since its chaining and critting

@uncut bay

you said take off embitter on arc as well?

[uncut bay]

one of the biggest traps I see is people are neglecting the self casted spell which triggers the meta spell. make your self casted spell strong to trigger your meta spell more often

yes, unless you can explain to me how you are increasing your damage through embitter

[rapid lily]

i cant lmao, what should I replace it with? maybe lightning mastery? OR is there a better option?

[uncut bay]

check suppprts on poeninja, use smth with damage

I see sione's temper, zenith, deliberation, pinpoint, considered casting, that's already 5 supports

rakiata's flow, atalui also great

[rapid lily]

siones is in CoC

ill try rakiatas

[rapid lily]

okay yeah now this build is kinda going crazy

[lethal patio]

Okay sorry new player here. Crossbows and bows are really fun. Being werewolf is also very fun. I know it’s probably not the most efficient to build hybrid, but I am curious. If one wanted to do hybrid for fun, is it better to try to build for damage between ranged and melee skills, or is it more feasible just to use ranged as an opener to apply frost buildup

[pallid mason]

is it possible to proc comet with skeletal frost mages automatically?

[next moat]

A lot of this question can be framed as, "can I scale damage with both talisman and bows/crossbows?" And the answer is definitely yes. Wolf skills have a lot of cold affinity, and bows/crossbows can build around cold as well.

The movement component of talisman skills being melee vs ranged is a mechanical thing to figure out, but any passives or mods that give +% to cold or elemental damage (and not specifically to ranged/melee) would benefit both.

[lethal patio]

Yeah I was trying to find the synergy in there somewhere lol, but this is a good answer thank you!

[next moat]

I've never built a character around the particular weapon combo you're talking about, but one interesting way you might be able to do it is go Pathfinder, and take all the nodes that give bonuses to swapping between ranged and melee.

Pathfinder would also allow you easy access to the cold and freeze passives from Witch's area of the tree + some mobility QoL.

[lethal patio]

I was thinking about that, aren’t those near Huntress though, those nodes?

[next moat]

Same difference. Ranger and Huntress start in the same place.

Pathfinder = Ranger ascendency

[lethal patio]

Oh! Gotcha. That makes sense.

[loud egret]

With Lightning Arrow, is it better to use Fork or Dominus' Grasp (+2 times beam Chain for Lightning Arrow)....

[lapis idol]

will this increase area of effect of my auras?

[glacial crater]

hi who is meta now?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[uncut bay]

I am

[tropic wharf]

hey is this usable for mana stacking hiero?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[tawdry adder]

Can I make a vaal skeletons of achers using a vaal orb on a normal skeletons of archers? If yes what is the probability of success?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[modest arrow]

Wretched Defiler Spectre do somebody have the build link ?

[toxic axle]

+# to the shill level is the most important stat on a gear, right? Are there any builds/skills that don't really scale with it?

I'm playing poison pathfinder and planning to upgrade my bow. It has like 70-80 less dps but +5 projectile skill. Is it worth it?

[static torrent]

Spells scale more than Attacks do, though it depends on the skill. Spells are usually around 12% more damage per level, Attacks are usually around 6%.

You could check your main skill on poe2db and see how much damage you'd gain from those +5 levels, or use PoB2

[toxic axle]

I don't have a PC right now (Only ps5), is there something similar to POB on a phone?

[static torrent]

PoE1 had a website version, but I don't believe 2 does at the moment

[toxic axle]

Well, guess I should visit my friend for that matter 😅

Alright, thanks anyway

[elfin magnet]

I really need some help coming back to the game afterr many months, I just want a solid caster build that will work for bosses endgame that is not too expensive. I tried watching videos but there are too many out there, most of them are terrible. Any witch/Sorc build?

[glacial crater]

is better shaman or orcale or blood mage ? Who is best ?

[static torrent]

For what, with what budget?

[glacial crater]

budget ?

is will be my 2 save with my friend im little new but i want something strongest 🙂

[static torrent]

How much currency you have. Some builds require expensive items and don't work well without them, others work right from the start but don't scale as well.

[glacial crater]

what do you think?

like ig not expensive like middle but you yk

@static torrent can you help me please bro im lost

[static torrent]

You've already been given suggestions for starter builds, #2┃general message. You're not going to get the strongest possible build at the start, and frankly, you do not need anything close to strongest to clear everything in the game.

[glacial crater]

ok and what is better blood mage or shaman or oracle ?

[rain wind]

witch hunter or tactician for granade build -?

[uncut bay]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rpPCd0Y5s8U&t=130s
build in the video description

[uncut bay]

define better, clarify what build you mean

[glacial crater]

Overall ? If it can sorry for my english im from czech

[rain wind]

any idea why it dosent work (more like dont effect the mobs ) ?

cuz i can see the icon on my self and it was working just fine 10min ago

[pastel forge]

check your curse level

below lvl 18 curses have lvl cap

[rain wind]

cap to what char lvl ?

[pastel forge]

lvl cap for mob lvl

[rain wind]

oh

i see thanks for the info i wish you an amazing day !!!

[north heart]

Hmm I still haven’t found an oil barrage leveling video

[pallid dome]

if 100% of physical damage is converted to an element, does "increased physical damage" in the skill tree still increase my damage?

[pastel forge]

No

[pallid dome]

oh wrong game lol

im blind

[marble canyon]

any assistance, my DPS seems low, what can I do to improve.
https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/808stock-7608/character/craftywinch

[uncut sail]

Wand, rings, and staff would provide way more dmg if changed/upgraded.
Using Blackflame Keystone, inc fire dmg doesnt do anything for you. You'd want a wand without Inc (ele) dmg.
Same for your rings. Additional spells levels will give a really nice boost aswell.

That Vertex helm doesnt seem to be doing anything for you either. Not with with its current mods.
Presumably you'd want one with +4 skills.

Since youre on Standard (I dont remember if the nerf to Bloodletting affected ALL gems) Bloodletting is huge boost also

This Ember Fullisade Support set up makes no sense to me either.
You dont deal any Lightning dmg with the current set up so Living Lightning is a dead support.
Xoph' Pyre also should be dead because you no longer deal fire damage. You deal Chaos.

Cast on Crit does NOT create Remnants. Harmonic Remnants II is a dead support.
Take this back.. forgot about Snap.

If you added in an Auto Ice Wall you'd gain a ton of damage on bosses as well

[marble canyon]

Awesome, thank you for that input. Still learning POE2.

[grave tree]

Are Saffell's Frame and The Brass Dome good for starting out in maps with RF Chieftan?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[fast wind]

For hollow palm whats better to focus on

Pure Es, pure EV or hybrid EV/ES

[oblique nebula]

I'm running Heat of the Forge. Because the energy gained is based on the percentage of enemy ailment threshold the hit will deal, this means Flammability Magnitude would have no affect on this mechanic, correct?

I would actually need to simply stack fire damage instead?

[next moat]

Correct, though it doesn't have to be fire damage specifically, any Ele damage can generate energy.

[thorny whale]

i feel like im quite weak

[oblique nebula]

So my plan is to stack elemental damage, and run Heat of the Forge as well as Mjolner together so that when I hit it spams both lightning and fire spells. Any suggestions for a primary attack or combination of attacks that would be best for this? Currently looking at Volcanic Fissure / Stampede combo but I feel like there is something better out there.

[next moat]

I've never done a Mjolner build. It's on my list for next league. But sounds like a really cool build thematically!

I'd be guessing at suggestions on this one though

If you do end up doing it, let me know how it works out. I might follow your path in 0.5.

[oblique nebula]

Mjolner write-up is nearly exactly the same as the Heat of the Forge, just for lightning.

I highly doubt this will be actually effective without a ton of investment, but visually I'm really enjoying it so far. I just hit 58 so I'm adding in Cast on Ele Ailment and taking all the triggered spell dmg / energy gen nodes on the tree. Orb of Storms and Living Bomb in my CoE for infusion generation, and Fireball / Ember Fusillade in my Fire Spell on Hit to make use of those and boost damage.

[vivid kestrel]

There any particular build that benefits the most from an acceleration shrine belt?

I was thinking Spark since it gives tons of projectile speed too

Or any elemental melee build since you can use a tincture

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[vivid kestrel]

smh, I just need to remove poe2 from my roles

ty

[pastel forge]

Lacking damage passives and a good weapon/amulet probably, getting a +4 level vertex would help too

[silent orbit]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1a42f

[sharp pawn]

does bestial rage from amulet stack with the passive tree skill?

[static torrent]

No, it 'allocates' the Notable, allocating it yourself won't make a difference.

[sharp pawn]

ait ty !

[celest zealot]

Alright, anyone here an expert on making mage builds, specifically ailment builds and CoA?
https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/TheMightyAltroll-0368/character/HexOffendersInYourArea

This build has plagued me for a while
I've gone from great boss damage and bad clear, to good clear but bad boss damage, to now mediocre clear and mediocre boss damage
Basically it's an ignite build, without blackflame, and using tornado

[river badge]

slayer for bleed bow or is the reliquarian any good?

[turbid pulsar]

Hey guys, need some help with my Invoker Monk build. I'm now at 82 lvl, T8-T9 maps, and it feels kinda hard, mobs are staggering/stunning on hit and as a result i'm dying a lot. Same for the Temple - fighting mobs 75+ lvl with some modificators is too hard for me.

Want to mention:

• My main skill is Ice Strike and it has around 21k DPS
• I'm playing always in party (duo with my mate that has very similar build to mine)

What can i do to improve my build and prevent being staggered by mobs?

UPD: Poe Ninja link -> https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/lifelocker-5226/character/lifelocker

[next moat]

Since you are running ES hybrid defenses, one quick way to help with stuns and ailment issues on Invoker is take the nodes up here that give ailment/stun threshold bonuses based on your energy shield

You could re-build your tree to optimize more, but a fast way to accomplish this without a lot of changing would be to pick up a From Nothing jewel with Chaos Innoculation as its listed notable. This would allow you to take both of these nodes + some good damage and freeze power in the same radius.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1a490

Here's a fast mockup I did of what that could look like. I kept changes to a minimum, but the end result is a lot more stun and ailment threshold, more damage on frozen enemies, and we pushed your Ice Strike tooltip dps up by ~2k.

[turbid pulsar]

@next moat Thank you so much, i missed those notes, i think it will really help a lot ^^

[restive prawn]

I'm using supporting fire and upwelling on a banner skill, I dont see my dps go up when I'm not at full mana, anyone know why?

[next moat]

Just for clarity, when you say "my dps" you mean the damage of your Supporting Fire minions, right?

[shell aurora]

hi guys im having problems with the spark build using the widowhail bow and quiver my (breakpoints) have been met but now i cant even do tier 7 maps... anyone know what went wrong?

[restive prawn]

Yes

[regal heart]

i used to play la deadeye in beta and want to start playing is it still any good?

[static torrent]

The game is still in Early Access, saying 'in beta' doesn't really narrow it down

[next moat]

No RF in PoE 2 (yet). You probably want to scroll up to #1┃build-planning

[blissful tide]

i swear i was in that channel my fault

[lucid marsh]

do talismans count as two handed

with the lord of the wilds node

[next moat]

yep 🙂

They don't cease to be a two-handed weapon because the keystone lets you wield a sceptre. Just like how Giants Blood doesn't make 2-H maces 1-H.

[lucid marsh]

yeah, i just wanted to make sure and ask lol

[next moat]

Definitely not around here, since there are no mines in PoE 2. But if you head over to #1┃build-planning I'm sure some folks have ideas.

same here, see above ☝️

[empty stratus]

oh my bad, completely missed the poe 2 tab title, ty tho

[next moat]

all good!

[crisp blade]

same lmfao

[crystal tree]

+2 level to spell = weapon, +1 level to skill = helmet, element increase = gauntlet, + level amulet, need suggestion on boots was thinking magic + movement. I guess you can say I am in search of the goochy boots

?

[sand talon]

any tips for what i can do to increase dps for temple?

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1a4d5

also why is my EHP so low

comparing it to a previous build i played: https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/c963

how is my ehp lower than this lvl 90 build

the lvl 90 build has less life, less ES and less resistances

is it cause the lvl 90 build has evasion?

[crystal tree]

If it were me and I was in your shoes I would consider different minions or the whole minion thing maybe sacrifice a Herald

[crystal tree]

Frost mages excel at high level

Life + cold boost

Build around this 45 spirit should do it

[sand talon]

Herald is needed

Its a reverse chill build

Hoi is like the main component

[crystal tree]

to be honest you can boost chill

exposure and freeze + chill

is there any thing you can swap to gain more hit dps

@sand talon

[sand talon]

If i get enough cold damage

[crystal tree]

I was referring to your tree

[sand talon]

I can get rid of polcilkren or however u spell that ring