2┃build-planning

[left matrix]

Bloodletting and Tecrod should see reworks too, if not at least some strong handed pink squeeky hammer bonks

Deadeye will likely face some changes too, tailwind specifically, and lightning arrow will probably have its attack damage slightly lowered as a front to deter its meta

Cuz if they nerf lightning rods more I don't think it could remain viable, but some attention could be given to the max rod limit to avoid oneshot potential

@west wharf looking at it, Seismic Cry with Aftershocks hitting walls could create a very high hitcount for stun buildup alongside a daze and some daze magnitude setup, im pretty sure you could heavy stun a pinnacle boss in a single use.

My goal is to dig into the more damage with mace against stunned, lucky, and the extra physical damage against stunned and armor broken, to then use something like earth shatter or perfect strike with aftershocks to apply multiple poisons quickly.

The issue that I see arising is that by that point investing into hit damage will just greatly outscale the poison damage potential.

Cuz ailments in PoE2 can rarely ever exceed 50% of the total dps, vs the hits that apply them.

I wonder if Garukhans resolve would work with guaranteed crit abilities

To dip the crit multi

[left matrix]

Forgot perfect strike is fire damage,

Would have to be sunder then.

Esp for the multi hit to stack poisons,
Should be able to stack 6 poisons with a guaranteed sunder crit after stunning.

[west wharf]

i doubt it, since it's the crit hit chance that bifurcates

worth a try though

but i don't think your actual crit hit chance line goes up to 100% with nebuloch; it just forces a crit

actually maybe it does

def worth a try

if you're going nebuloch do you even go giant's blood?

it'd be a lot easier gearing + more hp if you can just do standard 1h dw

dunno if it's worth going giant's blood to split a 2h mace with a 1h mace

[left matrix]

No, it defeats or bypasses the reason for Giantsblood

[left matrix]

Ill naturally POB both, to see just for certainty, but I suspect that Nebuloch justifies the dualwield damage penalty in all the opportunity of crit that I instead direct toward stun, and that its base crit damage modifier will outscale the damage penalty of dualwielding in the aspects that it lacks over a normal 1h mace.

The rare mace in main hand would essentially be:
Highest phys dmg base,
IPD
Flat phys
Extra phys
To crit damage
Attack/melee levels
Stun buildup

Probably preferring attack levels so that it scales HoB too

[left matrix]

Entirely depends on how you support it and what it needs to do

[static torrent]

Are you talking about PoE1? You may want to check which game's channel you're in.

[viral heart]

Oh shoot Im so sorry I didn't notice at all!

[cedar aspen]

I got Ingenuity today. Does it affect Unique Rings like Blackflame?

[edgy patio]

Are there any cool new builds using the bloodlines?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[rancid shuttle]

whats the point of toxic growth and vine arrow being "barragable" when the amount of pustules/plants is maxd at a single volley? There's no damage associated with the shot, so replacing the pustules/plant in barrage succession doesn't do anything...?

[left matrix]

I imagine that you could place a gas/poison cloud that has high enough damage to instantly burst the pustules, and that you could barrage them into it? - spitballing.
It more likely has something to do with ignite and triggering the explosions rapidly but it doesn't quite make sense to me either

[uncut bay]

barrage doesn't do shit for toxic growth, but if you have increased limit on vine arrow barrage can create two vines instead of one then

I mean the overabundance support

[left matrix]

Or you could just fire it twice instead of casting the barrage lol

[left matrix]

@west wharf so, constricting doesnt actually give me anything of value,

but,

I did end up testing a few things back and forth and feel pretty solid with this
Purely a test POB,
Config for the guaranteed crit on consuming an endurance charge, assuming that the boss was successfully heavy stunned by earth shatter spikes with seismic cry, and not accounting for the Sunder being empowered, but accounting for the aftershock allowing it to hit twice and because of Sunder's behavior with aftershock, apply 4 poisons in one cast.
The max limit of poisons on the build exceeds 4, so it will safely apply 4 poisons with the single cast, which should according to damage numbers and the few select items with their modifiers on, be sufficient damage output.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/dl4ju0aj

I just need to find defensive layers now, and I am probably going to just dive into evasion with a full EV body armor, and grab spectral ward, as well as a full ES head with subterfuge mask, and very likely grab Enhanced reflexes for the attribute assist alongside the ev increase, and ill be doing that either through a strugglescream, and or megalomaniac, apart from the actual pathing for some of it.

in the setup I am also assuming that Garukhan's Resolve does bifurcate the sunder crit from Nebuloc, which I have to test ingame to confirm >.< certainly adds a lot of damage if it does.

Weapon set 1 for earth shatter and seismic cry, using the ironwood great hammer with max stun buildup - this is probably overkill as fuck I dont think that I will need this much stun buildup to heavy stun a boss with 6 spikes and seismic cry, but, its in there just in case. Can always trim it later.

[west wharf]

you don't need herald of plague in cus of PF right?

[left matrix]

Right now using HoP adds a significant amount of increased damage alongside HoB,
but HoP has a significantly larger area than PF, depending on the level of the spirit gem it goes up to 2+m vs the 1.5m base of PF

The mapping isnt daunting me that much right now, at all, I will be able to make mapping with this work one way or another.
I was primarily concerned with the fact that maces dont have much sympathy for ailments in their lack of synergy, but I seem to have found a few points to milk

So being able to reach a high damage potential for like, bossing, was definitely the goal.

From here it could be as simple as trampletoe or armor explosion or bleed/poison spread setups on the heralds or maybe even just Plague Bearer lol, but mapping has options

[west wharf]

can you even support it with mag effect?

i thought it lacks the aoe tag

[left matrix]

that might just be PoB not restricting it yeah, I'll look into that. but its base aoe is still bigger than PF,

[west wharf]

i'm pretty sure all you can really stick on HOP is chaos mastery, aside from reservation supports

could be wrong

but i don't think 30 spirit would be worth pushing 1.5 to 1.8m

over having ghost dance + some reservation supports if you're going eva+es

[left matrix]

theres also the downside that PF is all poisons and HoP is just the strongest one

[west wharf]

pf is also strongest one no?

i think it's functionally just an HOP equivalent to save 30 spirit

[left matrix]

yeyeye ur right sorry I misread

Well now I have 5 points to direct toward defensives instead since Calamity isnt worth it without both heralds

Its reasonably strong with both heralds enabled though

[west wharf]

do you need this much daze%

i thought there was a warcry support that dazes

i forget the name

oh maybe not in the game nvm

what're the ingenuity and icefang for?

[left matrix]

Dazing cry was removed, but, I also need the hits to apply the daze, so that the earth shatter explosions daze and stun. If they cry dazes it will hit the boss after ther spikes' explosion and the spikes wont benefit from the daze debuff being applied

[west wharf]

ya true

[left matrix]

Oh Icefang was a cheap ring to simulate some base modifiers early on with value testing and the ingenuity is just what I had in mind for it, the gear definitely aint it lol, was just testing the DR on magnitude

[west wharf]

i imagine you'll end up on maybe ryslatha's or something in the end

[left matrix]

With lucky hits, thats very likely the play yeah

it will somewhat depend on how much value the ryslathas adds compared to flat phys and increased chaos damage rings with res and rarity to compare vs ingenuity

[west wharf]

you've got like a zero unique setup goin on so i imagine capping res won't be a big deal

i'm sure ryslatha will be more dmg than just amping flat and chaos% on rings

hmmm

the tree is so stretched if taking the usual subterfuge+spectral

the travel all the way to bottom left is oof on points

[left matrix]

This is just with the ice fang still on

and thats a pretty good roll on the belt

vs a 30/30 ingenuity at less than 15% of the price

[left matrix]

Spectral will likely be a megalo, subterfuge is right there for 3 points,

[west wharf]

guess there is quite a lot of gain as chaos% in your setup

[left matrix]

not really,

its unholy might from a minion command skill,
the heart of the well, and the sockets

though I guess 66% as extra chaos is pretty high for calc

[left matrix]

luckily PF gives us +6 points, but that stretch is:
Max rage for Tacati's Ire
2 jewel slots
Lucky damage
Endurance charge generation for Guaranteed crit
and 120% increased crit damage

I havent found any jewel or alternative that can replace the same value

[left matrix]

lol shit never added the minion into the skills list cuz I didnt need to to toggle the unholy might on

right thats the spirit allocation, it was to swap to a minion in weapon set 1 for unholy might on command, with Kurgal's Leash vs Herald of plague in set 2 for the increased chaos damage.

Since the buff persists and the spirit cost would be the same,

a cheap way to get unholy might

Was thinking of using a skeleton Brute since it's warcry also applies intimidation for 10% damage taken debuff too but wasnt sure about how I would manage the spirit cost without Diala's Desire, so left it for now till I got to gearing.

[left matrix]

Dang,,, presumably best in slot ring vs the icefang and a ruby ring that I have in stash that I wanna fix res with.

its like.... 5% dps vs res issues and if I swap the attributes for res instead, the price doubles too, its like tens of divines vs shit I have in stash for such a small dps gain.

and thats with ingenuity, without the differences are even smaller :D

[west wharf]

wouldn't you get more going poison mag runes on horror gloves

rather than flat phys

and then it'd up the value of breach ring vs icefang

[left matrix]

I had tested without deadly poison and flat physical was better,
Then saw deadly poison was better than heavy swing for total damage,

Forgot to recheck the 15% damaging ailment sockets on gloves again now that I have deadly poison in.

Rechecking all of that and the rings in a few.

Just shocked that a 1 exalt unique performs very admirably vs 30-100div rings

[west wharf]

i imagine you don't actually need an expensive breach ring tbh

[left matrix]

oh yeah thatst definitely affecting the weighting of magnitude

[west wharf]

in my head you could do like

[left matrix]

but with my phys damage lowering and magnitude increasing, the total dps value of the icefang also went up lol

[west wharf]

a flat phys + rarity magic ring start on some random res implicit ring

into greater essence of ruin

then homogenizing prefix greater

and ur prob nearly guaranteed to hit chaos dmg%

[left matrix]

yeah youd likely hit increased chaos

[west wharf]

into ulaman desecrate for hybrid light/chaos res

sounds fairly cheap, like maybe half div to craft flatphys+chaos%+rarity+dual res suffixes

into chaos catalyze i guess

cus it'd be 3 chaos rolls

4 if amethyst implicit

actually looks insanely cheap to do ngl

ig chaos res into greater opulence works too

[left matrix]

Hmhm

Thats definitely a good way to go about it.

Any thoughts on the amulet? Its a little weird.... Likely crit damage all res all attri global def spirit and flat eva

[west wharf]

u'd want +3 melee right

[left matrix]

Yes, instead of the all res, poobrain

[west wharf]

dang there's actually lots of rly good cheap options, this would be quad chaos with greater ruin > homo greater (maybe with chaos catalyze for good measure) > ulaman desecrate

nutter chaos qual value

i guess noone really cares about t1 flat phys

so many t1/t1 bases for 0

[loud cave]

lf spark ritualist help advice if someone can offer me some help hopefully we can voice

[left matrix]

#1019646743299764255

@loud cave are you warp mapping or comets?

[eager bobcat]

Havent started league yet... what build should i do. No minion build, no ballista build, and ive played Cyclone many times. I liked chaos damage bow character but i heard caustic arrow doesnt work well now. Hmm. Ive played basic witch like enki witch and then spark witch and cassie galvanic arc in previous league. Hmm. Then Ive played ice dancing queen (its called that in forums) several times and i like it, but i dont want to start with it. What would be good... melee chars are kinda difficult at first

I love chaos inoculation

[last bolt]

How viable would a mamba pathfinder build be with Golden Charlatan... maybe find some way of int stacking it?

[uncut bay]

what the fuck did you just say

[uncut bay]

wrong game

[last bolt]

Oh my bad, it's so easy to click the wrong one 😩

[uncut bay]

no it is not

wrong game

jesus christ

[clear bay]

whoops sorry

[west wharf]

#1┃build-planning

[harsh inlet]

Woops ty

[left matrix]

@west wharf So I crafted the mace today,
I feel like I got very lucky on multiple of its crafting steps, ended up costing me less than 2 div from base to end product.

and I found in POB that putting the Nebuloc in mainhand and the rare mace in offhand has better damage, despite the weapon in the offhand having way higher dps contribution, how does the calc work to estimate offhand hitting harder than mainhand?

Just socketting the extra chaos damage gain too for another 5.8% effective dps gain,

the gear is looking pretty interesting so far.

this is a PoE2 channel
Please use #1019646743299764255

[proven fjord]

i thought this was a wendy's

[west wharf]

afaik offhand vs mainhand should have no difference

but sometimes tooltip has incorrectly displayed differences

i.e. in the case of trail of caltrops, the flat phys from levels in trail of caltrops was only adding onto my mainhand weapon in tooltip

but in testing, it was actually adding to the offhand weapon as well and just not showing on tooltip

[left matrix]

Well,,, when swapping the same two weapons in POB, hit and poison damage go up

[west wharf]

with what skill

sunder?

[left matrix]

yeah

[west wharf]

should make zero difference

given that sunder hits with both weapons together

i'd chalk it up to some pob/tooltip bug

if necessary you can always test ingame

i usually use the wolvenhold interlude boss for testing since he's easy to find

[left matrix]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/kv6e00yw

[west wharf]

you could drop all your supports from sunder so it does low dmg

then go check your avg dmg per sunder vs the boss with nebuloch in mainhand vs offhand

[left matrix]

yeah thats what it will have to be, just to be sure... but it shouldnt matter regardless

just find it interesting

[west wharf]

ya prob just some pob bug

[left matrix]

DO you know what the easiest cop-out would be for using the minion command skill to get unholy might?

the minions at high level are less spirit but a ton of int

I'd probably have to get an astramantis to make this work that way

and that would can a lot of damage

[west wharf]

unsure sorry

@left matrix i think i know what's happening

p sure pob is just incorrect

in its calculations, the 0.7x dmg multiplier from dw is being applied twice to the mainhand weapon and not to the offhand weapon at all

rather than simply applying to the avg of the 2

if you check the avg hit dmg of "x" weapon on main hand vs the avg dmg of "x" weapon on off hand

off hand is always 1.96x higher

that corresponds to 1/.51 = 1.96

.51 coming from 1-(.7*.7)

[west wharf]

yeah, ignore that

[left matrix]

the condition -30 dualwielding is on mh, and offhand

[west wharf]

ya but it's not actually calculating off those values

you can see when you switch your offhand and mainhand wep

none of the base values are changing

it's still 250% inc, -15% more, and identical base hit damage values for each weapon

but the MH avg hit and OH avg hit are changing regardless

if you calculate the ratios, it lines up perfectly with POB applying the dw dmg penalty to your mh weapon twice

and to the offhand 0 times

[left matrix]

yeah that tracks,

cuz the poison calc shows that its incorrectly estimating for offhand

its also counting the max stacks per weapon hit rather than as a single hit... so its showing 8 max instead of 4 -.-

[west wharf]

ya i've heard pob for poe2 is incredibly unreliable compared to pob for poe1

since poe1 pob uses actual ingame values and calculations, poe2 pob doesn't

[left matrix]

API restrictions most likely to the engine's calcs

sigh... welll.. guess we are all just estimating anyway

[west wharf]

yeap

my kindergarten teacher would be so proud of me for noticing the ratio

unparalleled math talent

[left matrix]

huehuehue

too bad that arsehole highschool math teacher was right about never getting anywhere in life...

here we are... crunching theoretical numbers at the end of a league lol

[west wharf]

if ur having fun then ur where ur supposed to be

[left matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483348725704556557/805764359087194112/image0.gif

[drifting burrow]

Are there any skill gems/support gems/spirit gems which do something similar to iron ward but for elemental/chaos damage? Or at least help with mitigating magic damage?

[left matrix]

Catalysis ranger side, 5% to phys, at res cap its a 3.5% damage reduction

And theres Tempered Defences for 15% of armour applies to elemental damage - which is also available on boots and gloves as a suffix for bloodmages.

But in short no... Not having elemental resistance fucks you.

This is a PoE2 channel

[twin bronze]

Oops!

[unreal girder]

Yeah sorry I have ADHD

[left matrix]

Same bro....

[unreal girder]

Wish the 2 discords were separate

Xd

[left matrix]

you can unselect which channels you see

cuz you would keep forgetting to read which discord is which too anyway xd

[unreal girder]

Touché

But then Id forget to turn it back on when its poe2 season

[drifting burrow]

It'a more I want to gain some kind of damage/retaliation from magic damage. I might try a build with the new support gems that scale with stun bar, that sounds more reliable

[left matrix]

Derp, I have spent so much of my life playing evasive glasscannon builds that the idea of theorycrafting thorns goes against every fiber of my being :(

[left matrix]

PoE2 channel

[glacial vessel]

Chill your cutsies, bro 😮

[west wharf]

the best thorns builds don't involve thorns

trail of caltrops and wind dancer

[wanton anvil]

guys im thinking about grenade build or lightning build for merc, im towards lightning but its hard to progress because low dmg

[uncut bay]

you gotta buy weapons, rings, gloves with high damage

buy skill gems with 4-5 support sockets if you can, or craft it yourself if cheaper this way

a lot of such skill gems cost 1 exalt though

[wanton anvil]

im level 26, the char is pretty useless in boss fights, it will take eternity to kill a boss, galvanic shard, herald of thunder, voltaic mark, is my skill. where can i buy the 4th and 5th slots please?

[brisk tundra]

Someone knows how Incinerate interacts with cast speed?
I've been looking on PoB and it says that some cast speed nodes on my tree boosts its damage, but nothing changes in-game except the initial cast, which is kinda useless since I'll hold, and not spam incinerate

[west wharf]

use grenades for bossing

explosive grenade is way more dmg than galv for bosses

[wanton anvil]

for end game is it going to be my build? thanks man

[west wharf]

up to you

you can do galvanic + shockburst rounds for endgame, or grenade build

your lvling spec doesn't decide your endgame build

galvanic is for pack clear, you definitely want to be mixing in grenades for bossing during campaign

explosive most important, gas or oil grenade can supplement

[wanton anvil]

did you go fro grenade build?

[west wharf]

i prefer grenade builds personally

[wanton anvil]

can we do grenade and lightning? or we just need to concentrate to one?

[west wharf]

can do both but more common to do one or the other

[wanton anvil]

is it too late for le to go grenade build?

im lvl 26

[west wharf]

no

[wanton anvil]

i spent my support gems and spirit gem to herald of thunder supposed to be herald of ash, haha

[west wharf]

doesn't matter

u find a lot

[wanton anvil]

ok man thanks

will try to go grenade build

[patent shell]

guys i need advice does righteous fire have any hope this season with the new ascendancys and items ? can i get a full dps version of it ? like 10 -30 million ??

otherwise ill gonna skip again the league cause every other skill bores me to oblivion

[neat breach]

this is poe 2 sir

[uncut bay]

cast speed accelerates the stages, so the incinerate stages switch faster

[uncut bay]

a 30 mil dps righteous fire, yeah, sure xDD

[uncut bay]

wrong game my man

why dont you also pull stats from diablo 4 or some other rpg

righteous fire is a pretty shitty skill in poe2

[iron mortar]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/NovaNarwal-5836/character/ThreeBillionHealth

anybody help me with my build? I think I’m done tbh I wanna know if I could switch stuff up or not but I’m pretty much unkillabke and can 1-2 tap bosses

[lilac barn]

Anyone know if Spell Cascade works with Lightning Bolt (Choir of the Storm)?

[buoyant flame]

Just skip it lol

[iron vigil]

What time does Blood Mage Hex Blast come online? I know it was nerfed, but when can I start using it reliably? Act 4? Or do I need to itemize for it

[halcyon marten]

Guys

what the best way to convert 100% (or very close) of phy to cold? (without hrimsorrow)

[quiet rampart]

so, im completely new to path of exile build creation, usually i just go like a straight and narrow boring path that perfectly fits the description of the class, however, id like to stray away and make a more "unique" and creative build

however it seems that there is a lot that goes into that. im making a huntress right now and i plan on going ritualist, i intend on making some type of hybrid build? i want to use magic along with being a ritualist and wonder how i would go about choosing what skill gems to use?

and also im seeing a lot of int based magic huntress ritualist builds and im wondering what are the benefits of going a mage type of build as a ritualist?

it seems like people constnatly stray away from the weapon that their class uses

at least for huntress

[wraith palm]

that overall is really common in this game. i made a spear infernalist that used plague bearer as primary damage source this league as just one example (well kinda 2 in 1 haha)

some class mechanics mesh well with ideas that dont follow what the class is "supposed to do". the most common hinderance i see to doing that is just where you start from the tree (kinda hard to go crit warrior or spellcaster mercenary)

[quiet rampart]

alright makes sense

do you have any like tips for making proper builds

[oblique nebula]

I'm running Infernalist for an experimental build centered on temporary minions and presence buffs to make them hit harder. What ascendancy nodes should I take, and also what are the benefits/drawbacks of going life vs. energy shield?

[wraith palm]

Haha I don’t plan I just play until I find something that I think seems cool and go from there. I’d say making a “proper build” is more mechanic understanding and tree building

[woven depot]

i usually think of it like

whats a cool skill I want to use

how and why do i want to use it

and how do i make it poison

[pearl sluice]

there’s no way this isn’t rage bait, the only skill that doesn’t bore you is one where you literally don’t press any buttons and just walk around 💀

[west wharf]

make sure you consider things holistically instead of just focusing on making a single specific interaction work, unless you're okay with it being a cool but janky build

cus even if you make an underplayed skill work with a lot of investment and setup, the build still won't end up feeling good if you haven't balanced it out with good defenses, mobility, etc

it also helps a lot to get familiar with searching things up on poe2db, to see if there's synergistic items, gems, etc that you aren't aware of

and to make friends with some knowledgeable players that you can bounce ideas off of

there's so many items, interactions, and whatnot that it's hard to catch everything on your own

[patent shell]

no i like the art how it looks like and in combination with shieldcharge its just pure satisfaction and trust me brother i played many many builds i also create one weird build which worked quiet well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sifz0q4TDqA

[quiet rampart]

how do i check things like that on poe2db?

[west wharf]

just search it in the search bar

and click the bars at the top

i.e.

https://poe2db.tw/Dodge_Roll#Acronym

if you want to build around dodge roll, it'll pop out most (not all) things related to dodgerolling that might be interesting to consider in your build

won't have everything, but enough to give ideas to work with

[fallen mural]

I'm not sure where to post this, but as a new player..how do you go about learning how to build from scratch? Are there any helpful resources for this?

I know a lot of people will say start by using a pre-made build, but i want to be able to understand how to make a good character without a guide. It's fine if it takes time, I'm looking for long term advice but where do I start?

[ebon glade]

I wonder guys, Is CWS Chieftain dead? last time played it... like 3-4 leagues back

[ebon glade]

first of all, it's not all people, but most people who make their own builds - firstly tried to play tons of builds, figure out mechanics and etc.

then you should understand what stats combine with different stats properly - there was a youtube channel... something like PoE Academy, but,. I'm not sure, can't find it - you can invest alot in searching youtube for guides, checking PoB's

start by playing the game and figuring out builds/gems/mechanics you like

[fallen mural]

I'll see what I can find on YouTube related to PoE Academy, thanks

[wraith palm]

just learn the basic mechanics and go from there (how to damage, how to survive, etc lots of resources on yt and whatnot) then pick a skill or item or interaction etc you think is cool and go from there

most building is knowing the mechanics well and game knowledge really. learn to search for tags in the support gem menu, things like that

[ebon glade]

may be somebody will link it later, it's on top of my tongue but can't remember exact name because it was years ago 😭

[cedar aspen]

With Zealots Oath, is recharging energy shield only based off of Life Regeneration and not any other factors like Recoup?

[autumn pond]

Hay so what if someone dared me to play the hole campaign as an ember fusillade titan with no respecting aloud, how should I build that?

[rotund tartan]

is it reasonable to have one weapon set for clearing and another for bossing? i've got a titan up and running T2 maps rn its doing OK clearing but kinda slow when it comes to bosses, im wondering if I should keep my 1h + shield for clearning and invest in a good 2h for boss killing

[fallen mural]

This was extremely helpful
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/guides/passive-skill-tree

[woven depot]

Yes

that’s quite common

But also sounds like your character is struggling quite a bit if you’re having trouble in t2s and a 2h might not fix that

If you have a pob or a ninja link it’s easier to help out

[mystic basalt]

if you increase the effect of explicit modifiers on the waystones, does that, for example, if a map has enemies have 20% extra cold damage, and you have asy 30% more explicit effect

would that make monsters have 26% extra cold damage?

[woven depot]

yesir

but more rarity/quant etc

[rotund tartan]

@woven depot https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/cornjuliox-2930/character/EnricoSmash I didn't follow a guide for this or anything I'm just freestyling here so it's kinda all over the place.

i was actually using syzygy through the campaign, decided it was way more trouble than it was worth when I got to maps

now I'm experimenting with bleed, and it's kinda OK

[woven depot]

and we are sold on the idea of bleed

might actually be fine, its pretty good but youll suffer a bit in clear ig

hulking form is incredibly good however

might be worth considering

fwiw compressed duration shouldnt do anything really for your hotg, and your brutality supports makes it so your added fire damage gets deleted

[rotund tartan]

how do people typically build titans?

[woven depot]

depends a bit, bleed isnt too popular ig

but warcries, armour break and maybe some fire damage is usually a common denominator between warrior builds

[rotund tartan]

so phys+crit?

[woven depot]

crit is rough, you get some but maces have low base crit and theres not much crit rating near your starting zone

titans generally dont love travelling too much since hulking form is obscenely strong, you want to utilise it by placing as many points as possible into small nodes

[rotund tartan]

how about giant's blood

[woven depot]

its good, helps with scaling hit damage a ton

but puts a strain on you for strength stacking and this leagues nerf with how it reduces the ffectiveness of added strengths hp increases has resulted in it not being nearly as popular as in the passt

id argue the meta warrior build rn is just earthshatter builds, but thats a boring route to go imo

you can definetly make a bleed titan work

but aftershocks are lowkey antisynergistic with it, bleed wants 1 big boy hit

aftershocks is investing in many hits

[rotund tartan]

i remember EQ bleed being popular in poe1

[woven depot]

damaging ailments are quite different in poe 1 and poe 2

[rotund tartan]

yeah i noticed. from what I gather you want a really big hit to apply a damaging ailment (bleed)

[woven depot]

in poe 1 you scale them with modifiers like "damage over time" and in poe 2 the main way to increased ailment dps is by increasing the hit inflicting it

[woven depot]

ye

same goes for ignite and poison too

[rotund tartan]

ok so to max bleed with rolling slam I'm gonna want the biggest hit I can get

[woven depot]

pretty much

there are nodes for bleed magnitude that you should consider as well

as well as a way to aggravate bleed

like this for example

[rotund tartan]

oh wow i'm real close to that one

[woven depot]

i also dont think bleed 3 is worth running

you can get pretty respectable bleed chance with low investment in the passive tree

[rotund tartan]

what should I swap it with

[woven depot]

could go concentrated effect if you dont mind the reduced aoe

its a multiplier as well

could also go deepcuts

id swap of rupture as well

and get the two chance to aggravate nodes on the tree instead

easy enough to find ways to create jagged ground

you can also anoint aggravation on your amulet

Crushing Verdict and Lasting trauma are almost mandatory passive nodes, but you are right by them as well so thats fine

[rotund tartan]

oooh o k

[woven depot]

if you are gonna be making your own builds i recommend getting into path of building btw, its not nearly as optimised for poe 2 yet but its still a good tool for planning

[fallen mural]

Is there a reason to use path of building over something like poeplanner or poeninja?

[left matrix]

PoB is the way

trust

[cedar aspen]

Although I’ve heard it’s not refined down to the last detail just yet, it is a lot more detailed than the other two I believe.

[white maple]

I know a majority of players here are playing ES Bersker Slam. What grafts do you guys go for?

[rotund tartan]

does knockback trigger the bonus dmg on bleed in poe2? or does that not count as "movement"?

[proud sorrel]

Radial Force Notable no longer has distilled emotions listed, but it used to be Paranoia, Greed, Ire. Any unlisted combo to get it?

[white maple]

Another other build as good as Lightning arrow deadeye?

[heady garnet]

Pob has everything splayed out for you to see

[uncut bay]

depends on how much you value movement speed and tankiness, there are plenty of broken builds

[whole fog]

havent played in a few months. any new nodes on the tree

[woven depot]

hot tip is looking through patch notes

and yes there are a lot of new nodes

[whole fog]

is it feasible to play an aura buffer based on Smith of Kitava

[waxen stump]

how good are the transfigured eye of winter vs the normal?

[glossy sedge]

Yo I have a question

Do I need em all to link or is this ok

[woven depot]

you want them all to link, but this is the wrong game channel. if you have further questions its better if you ask them in the dedicated poe 1 channels. #1┃build-planning

[austere carbon]

I am transitioning to the end game version of https://mobalytics.gg/poe/builds/bleed-slams-slayer-ground-slam-of-earthshaking-breach-destroyer?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C21c76c69-9cd5-44d7-a651-7f5eccc4eee8, any ideas on how i could mitigate the reservation efficiency until I get enlighted 4? is there any tattoo or something i could use?

maybe using lifetap instead of one of the supports? not sure which one would I change, maybe disabling one aura for now?

[woven depot]

#1┃build-planning

[white maple]

Any general tips for making your own build. Seems like its hard to answer as most just follow a build.

[woven depot]

Learn what modifiers affect what, get a good sense of additive and multiplicable damage scalers. I usually start with a concept, finding a main ability that fits the idea and go from there

[white maple]

do i generally only want to use one skill for mobbing and one for bossing?

like monk uses flicker or the thunderwave skill but bossing uses something like the giant bell

[balmy tulip]

If the skill convert phys dmg to chaos/elemental, increases to phys dmg will happen before the conversion then be increased again after the conversion or not?

[woven depot]

Either or! But maybe start with a dedicated ‘clear’ skill and another dedicated ‘boss’ skill, this could also be a good practice in weapon sets for the different skills

[woven depot]

Not entirely sure what you mean, but in poe 2 % increases to phys damage will only apply to the non-converted part of the damage, this is different from how it works in poe 1 where you could convert phys to cold and scale that total damage by both phys increases and cold increases. In poe 2 you only scale the element you convert to

[uncut bay]

you just want good AOE and good single target damage, whether it's different skills or just the same skill doesn't matter much

my first tip is to not see classes as builds lol

monk is not a build, it's a class

and in a flicker build you absolutely kill the boss with flicker

[balmy tulip]

got it, tyvm

[uncut bay]

I use the blackflame builds to remember this

blackflame keystone converts fire damage to chaos, you collect increased chaos damage passives

blackflame ring makes enemies take chaos damage instead of fire damage, you collect increased fire damage passives

which means the conversion happens before your damage calculation

[left matrix]

@west wharf
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/dwfeu0ya

current state of the build,
Gear is still really meh, so survivability is almost nonexistent.

Using Earth Shatter, Seizmic cry and reaver minion in set 1
then Stampede, Sunder and Berserk in weapon set 2

Mapping with Stampede, its always breaking armor and always has endurance charges, so it always crits too, kinda insane how this is coming together. Found a LOT of small adjustment in the tree to optimize output.

Bosses is just spikes setup + cry + command -> Sunder

The damage is utterly deranged.

First time ive ever come across this lol

It do be looking a little funny, though how accurate POB's poison calcs are right now is definitely questionable.

I'm accounting for the poison application from the aftershock off the empowered attack from Seizmic cry currently, but not for the additional physical hit of the aftershock, which technically should be higher than the first by a fair margin, though the poison wont be due to Low Tolerance.

But the throughput is, very amusing. Super satisfying animations and pops.

[quartz snow]

why can't I put alith's chimes into wind dancer

[main bridge]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/0afrz0yq if anyone could take a look at my pob and give me some tips to improve damage and some of the good unique charms that would be nice, i am new to this season and didnt research anything added in 0.3 and only played half of season 0.2

[radiant trout]

Are summoning builds viable late game? and if so, what are they?

[uncut bay]

very viable, check ghazzy

[radiant trout]

all of his recent videos look like theyre for POE1, do you know of any for POE 2?

[finite axle]

Can anyone tell me what the red and green lines mean in PoB?
I understand weapon set, but you only have 2 weapon sets, so I don't understand there are 3 different colors red/green/normal
Also how can I allocate these in pob?

[static torrent]

Normal is the base points, red and green are sets 1 and 2 (I forget which is which).

[finite axle]

Thanks, you know how to allocate specific set in pob?

[static torrent]

Unfortunately not, I haven't used PoB for PoE2.

[woven depot]

you can just click on this part of the menu

lets you allocate

[uncut bay]

yes, again, check ghazzy

[whole fog]

think im gonna try this for mace bleed? not a big fan of stun

[balmy tulip]

do Osin convert Ignite dmg to chaos as well??

[midnight geode]

can dot crit? And if so, does the crit chance roll for each second it deals dmg?

[woven depot]

dots cant crit

if the hit causing a damaging ailment (bleed/ignite/poison) crits then the dot will do more damage as well since they scale from the pre-mitigation hit damage

[midnight geode]

im using essence drain and contagion on cast on crit

does essence drain dot do mroe dmg if the first hit crits?

[woven depot]

no it does not

[static torrent]

No, as the damage is not based on the hit, it is a separate value.

[woven depot]

they are seperate

[midnight geode]

i see

one more thing

can enemies evade dot?

[woven depot]

they cant evade it

but something like ignite can be prevented from elemental threshold

[midnight geode]

alright thx for the help

[wraith palm]

Osin makes you unable to ignite by itself. If you want chaos damage from ignite try black flame ring or black flame covenant node

[balmy tulip]

Srr, my fault for not explaining properly. I mean if i use Unravelling(from chayula's asc) together with Osin, will the ignite be Chaos dmg or fire dmg?

[woven depot]

Ignite, unless you’re using the keystone, always deal fire damage

Unravelling just makes it so that chaos damage will contribute the magnitude

the resulting ailment is still fire

The blackflame ring is also not a conversion

[wraith palm]

Yes, you still need to do fire damage (or chaos with acolyte and unraveling) to ignite with black flame ring, it just makes that ignite do chaos instead

However notably neither black flames give that ignite the chaos DoT tag, something to keep in mind

[balmy tulip]

but doesnt the Osin conver all ele dmg to chaos?

[wraith palm]

Yeah but that means you can’t apply ele ailments by default

With unraveling and the lineage gems you can but not by default

But to be honest in this dynamic I don’t know if unraveling + Osin ignite is fire damage

(Pls figure out acolyte ggg, chaos class shouldn’t even be considering Ming’s or osin haha)

[woven depot]

Cannot convert dot damage, blackflame keystone is an exception to this rule

[uncut bay]

you can also make enemies take fire dot as chaos dot with tbe blackflame ring

[woven depot]

But that’s not conversion

[left matrix]

You need to add Culmination first.

[left matrix]

Have you considered bloodmage elemental damage causes bleed?

Cuz Acolyte just seems to be in a very very weird place to accomplish things that other classes do more efficiently

[quartz snow]

how do i do that

[left matrix]

You socket the support gem called Culmination

[quartz snow]

but it doesn't show it goes into wind dancer

[balmy tulip]

yeah i'll just give up the build, thought Osin could conver dot dmg as well, guess chayula is just not worth it atm

[wraith palm]

You missed the glory days of 0.2 🙁

[lean patio]

guys why is palestron using dying sun and the additional proj wand mastery with the refracting runegraft? does the graft not limit ur proj to 1?

[wraith palm]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[lean patio]

mb

[sour trout]

hello. im playing blood mage and got some like really strong gear so much so i have like 100+ spirit just sitting. i have Withering,Siphon, and time of need active atm any other recommendations? using blackflame covenant

[fleet blaze]

so kinetic fusilade, (just started yesterday) im leveling in campaign and it has such a long delay but all the videos show people just being a machine gun

[woven depot]

wrong game but they are stacking skill duration reduction, its a very fine balance between skill duration and attack speed to make it machine gun

[fleet blaze]

ty

[uncut bay]

sure, follow captainlance's bloodmage guide

[sour trout]

thats what im following its what he has

guide is great but i got some really strong stuff that im kinda in a limbo of progression relative to the guide. im doing my best offsetting by just grabbing higher level trees with what i saved but its still confusing a bit

[uncut bay]

share your build if you want I can help

[sour trout]

uhh sure one sec lemme grab some screenshots

oh wait

how do i post images

imgur?

but basically

i was playing with a Higher level Bloodmage and he gave me a Rathpith Globe

and new wands

both i cant use for a bit as im below their level requirements

and im at the "lv 74" passive tree from the captainlance9 guide

because i was able to save points due to the same bloodmage giving me a Undying hate Timeless jewel

@uncut bay

id send pics but no perms

oh and he gave me atalui's

[uncut bay]

I don't want pics, share your poe2ninja or maxroll

[sour trout]

uhhh

sure 1 sec i guess

[midnight geode]

after the herald chain nerfs, can they still inflict ailments? Like can herald of ice ignite/sock/bleed etc?

[wraith palm]

Yes, just not the ailments they interact with. I was making herald of ice poison this league

[midnight geode]

aight ty

[crimson crater]

Anyone use Balormage HROC? I’m trying to spec into it moving up from the early maps POB. I have a question about Dialla’s mallefacation. What socket colours should I be using? I know you can put any jam in any socket but different colour sockets give different bonuses and it’s unclear to me which gems I would ideally be putting into specific colours.

[chrome pollen]

For LA glove suffixes, are you looking for AS + Socketable effect + Crit Dmg or would it be worth it to drop one of those for a rarity roll?

[west wharf]

it's fine but you can't really efficiently craft gloves like that

so there's not many

rarity has no tag so it's not targetable with the usual crafting method for LA gloves

AS you can craft first via homo ex from a desecrated speed tag, socket gets essenced on, crit dmg gets essenced on, flat dmg pre's get homo ex'd on from the crit dmg's damage tag after blocking acc

and 3rd flat pre is omen of light rerolled

if u rly want i guess you could do like...

exceptional base start w/ crit dmg and horror essence, unrevealed suffix desecrate

homo ex all 3 prefixes and pray to god you don't hit accuracy

then omen of light for rarity suff if you managed to hit 3x flat pre's

but to hit bis gloves with that method probably costs more than the rarity suffix is ever going to make u back lol

[prisma hinge]

Can someone help me find a good aurabot build guide?

Oop, I meant poe1

[midnight geode]

if I use this unique belt and take that node on internalist, will I count as low life permanently?

[left matrix]

Hmmmm,, that should work yeah.

Could make a pretty tanky character like that, definitely worth testing

[woven depot]

Yes, it’s standard infernalist tactic

[midnight geode]

aight ty

[cunning night]

earth shatter of fragility worth using?

[manic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ4NAefCbNw

[manic parrot]

yes u will

[icy fossil]

What Attributes should my weapons and Armor have if im playing with a monk

[tranquil wagon]

Guys im playing with deadeye but need to change would like to try monk but they told me its expensive to build no idea about this class in still fresh here so i need your advise can i play with monk endgame can i find cheap and good build to go with and thanks for help 🥰

[wraith palm]

Every perfect end game build is expensive, a lot of ppl have a bad habit of saying all pieces of gear are trash unless it’s a mirror

[tranquil wagon]

no chance to play with monk then :\ im keep searching anyway

[wraith palm]

no i mean you can play monk for sure haha

hollow palm is real strong, bonk skills are strong, ice strike is cool

"it's super expensive" is either streamer cocomelon brain or ppl not knowing how to make a build unless the build you want to play has some specific unique stuff that happens to be expensive

[west wharf]

nah it's fine man

there's budget and expensive setups for every class

[uncut bay]

monk and deadeye are not builds, they are classes

if you mean qstaff then yes you can make a good budget qstaff build

[uncut bay]

the fact that many suck at buying items also doesn't help

the truth is that many ten divine builds can kill t3 pinnacle bosses and do hard maps

[tranquil wagon]

can you tell me from where should i start which build is ok and not expensive can go with it to endgame bosses

[balmy tulip]

Is there any good way to generate Endurance charges if playing spells ?

[woven depot]

depends a little bit on the spells as well

but resonance + profane ritual is the most straightforward

but if you can armour break you can just slot the support gem

[wraith palm]

Level with ice strike, freezing mark, and herald of ice

There’s plenty of stuff for end game, look at the skills you think are cool or whatever and go from there

[balmy tulip]

Anyone know if Loyalty support works together with Brutus' brain lineage support?

[wraith palm]

No

I mean no they don’t work

[balmy tulip]

sadge

[wraith palm]

I mean the descriptions of both gems tell you they won’t haha

[balmy tulip]

Really? i'm looking at skills gems on poedb, it doesnt say anything there, didnt check in game xD

[tranquil wagon]

Any good guide mate if you have recommendations

[wraith palm]

I haven’t used one you’ll have to look something up but that makes the campaign easy

Especially with frost bomb and ele weakness

[wraith palm]

Yeah I looked them up on poe2db

[left matrix]

Normally you cannot socket Loyalty into a companion after brutus' brain is socketted,
When you socket Loyalty first you are allowed to socket the brain though, this created a controversial belief that they work together.
However, Loyalty doesnt transfer any damage when the companion cant take any damage.
Just like Minion Pact doesnt grant more damage if Living Lightning doesnt have enough HP to absorb the total amount of damage it would deal to them, POB shows the dps increase, but doesnt check the condition.
Unless a minion fully absorbs the damage cost of minion pact, the damage bonus is NOT granted.
Along with that, Ambush on herald of thunder is never in effect because the hit that triggers herald of thunder takes the target below max life, and herald needs to be triggered. The AoE of herald of thunder is also too small to justify the area of effect of herald of thunder benefitting from Ambush because most attacks that trigger herald of thunder efficiently are AoE filler / clearing attacks that typically hit before the herald in AoE as well.

I hope this helps, friend, dont fall for the shenanigans that Fubgun posts on his public profiles. Mahn is straight up trolling entire communities of players.

[balmy tulip]

tyvm ❤️

[winter cobalt]

I got 200 divine i want to make build for deadeye KB who can help me

[left matrix]

KB?

[winter cobalt]

Kentic blast i think it called

[left matrix]

#1019646743299764255

sigh

[winter cobalt]

done

[uncut bay]

essence drain, gas arrow, explosive arrow, explosive shot, probably incinerate are great in a budget build

and some others, idk all

[median crescent]

Hello! Does anyone know why the Stun Bar on enemies turns orange when I Freeze them? After freezing them, I can't get any significant Stun buildup on the enemy.

[tranquil wagon]

for monk?

[uncut bay]

acolyte might have synergy for the dot builds

invoker is nice for crit bow buulds

[wraith palm]

hollow palm combo builds are cheap too, dont even need a weapon. aitliths is 5d rn is all

[alpine inlet]

Just started playing the game, should I follow this build?

https://youtu.be/JrsFRvOKblg?si=kj_fcXWutYsxbh2C

[atomic halo]

sure

looks fine

[hidden vale]

hi, got a question about the abyssal lich ascendancy but im not sure if this is the right place to ask

[uncut bay]

just ask

[nocturne plume]

hey guys, just wanna know is this because of config? Cause my build didn't shows the extra 60

[uncut bay]

this build is meta and looks fine to me, but this youtuber is a clickbaitimg missleading cunt xD

[hidden vale]

alright, is abyssal lich going to leave the game after the next season or will it stay? should i level up a witch to try it out? i havent seen any build or anything with it other than "check out this secret ascendancy" yt videos.

kinda new-ish to the game, sorry for bothering with the dumb question

[loud cave]

is there someone who is familiar with earthshatter build and wanna help me find a good strat to earn curency so i can upgrade hopefully we can do voice for lil but to hlep me out

[carmine zinc]

Is there any effective way to scale Raging Spirits now? I know it was nerfed pretty bad but... I can't figure out how to actually make these work without splitting builds between spells and minions

[icy fossil]

With which Attributes on Armor is the Monk scaling

[woven depot]

that’s not really how poe functions, but monk is generally seen as a dex/int hybrid, same with Shadow

doesn’t mean you can’t go full dex, full int, full strength or any combination of the three

There is however a connection between attributes and other modifiers like defensive layers and damage types. And the passive nodes around the monk starting area reflect this since they’re defensively a combination of evasion (dexterity) and energy shield (intelligence), this is also seen in the damage nodes, there’s very little fire damage nodes (strength related) but quite a bit of lightning (intelligence) and cold (dexterity)

[midnight geode]

is shadow gonna have an ascendency that revolves around dagger skills that slash and stuff? Like no traps? Pure assassin style

[woven depot]

Sounds highly likely

[midnight geode]

[static torrent]

Well, no, since no ascendancy is specific to any weapon type. However, it will almost certainly have at least one ascendancy that is synergistic with Dagger-based builds in one way or another.

[midnight geode]

yeah thats what i mean

basically i wanna play daggers but not use the trap skills

[woven depot]

i can promise you that you will be able to do that

[static torrent]

Yeah, while they may have synergies between the two weapon types, to encourage them to be used together, it's 100% going to be possible to just ignore one and focus on the other.

[tranquil wagon]

guys why i cant find the ( herald of ice skill ) im with monk

[wraith palm]

It’s a spirit skill

[tranquil wagon]

easy way to fix this spirit

[jade hull]

Quest in act 1 in felthorn

[cedar aspen]

Curious who you would/wouldn’t recommend now 😅

[tranquil wagon]

got him yea dont know how i missed that boss

[uncut bay]

ragegaming, ronnaray and that one with p in the name, always a wide smile in the thumbnail

pretty bad channels

captainlance, fubgun, ruetoo, conner, endag are great

just build wise, some of their personalities are terrible lol

[cedar aspen]

I like lance, Woolie isn’t too bad either, lowquality, ignatius, DMT, MisoxShiru, LexD, even requip gaming had a decent warrior build

[cedar aspen]

P4wnyhof?

[uncut bay]

never heard of those

ah yes p4wnyhof, horrible channel

DMT is fine though, but not a build maker

[cedar aspen]

Yeah… fell for that one initially when I first started (played POE2 since EA launch but not POE1 before) kinda happy to have gotten to this point

[wraith palm]

ppl still complainin that poe2 is dark souls, im play dark souls for first time rn, shits pretty fun

[cedar aspen]

That is insane to say considering they’re very different games. They do have some similarities, but not many

[viral torrent]

guys any suggestions for the skeletal warrior support gems?

[fickle osprey]

is there a way to convert the life gain to ES gain?

[south summit]

Nevermind

Mb

[left matrix]

any1 know if this mechanic is in effect for the duration of Rite of passage spirit buff too, or only the charm's primary function?

[tough spear]

does anyone know if the oshabi bloodline unleash node works with blade vortex?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[tough spear]

mb, thanks

[atomic halo]

only the duration of the actual charm

the buff is irrelevant

[robust pike]

hey, does Contagion not scale w chaos or spell damage? I'm highlighting it on my passive tree w alt and I see scaling for Unearth and Essence Drain but not Contagion 🤔

[pure ermine]

why does cyclone of tumult want to use the stampede unique boots?

[worldly current]

The awful channel I keep seeing is kaidgames2

[left matrix]

Thanks

[worldly current]

Also is this a good build?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/zz4wz0cy

[atomic halo]

wrong game, but because it comes with "10% less Movement Speed per Stage"

that's 50% less at 5 stages

[cedar aspen]

Kaidgames is bait for sure. Just churns out whatever it seems.

[cedar aspen]

Contagion being damage over time would scale with things like Withered effects. Because it’s not counted as a hit I don’t think

[worldly current]

Yeah, I have no idea if he does any research at all on those videos but it's just constant "best" every day

Just seems like it would have to be BS

[cedar aspen]

Not that you’ll do much damage with contagion anyways as Essence Drain is the main damage dealer for chaos damage overtime. Contagion is best used for spreading DoT’s around mobs really

[robust pike]

Oh dang

[cedar aspen]

Yeah from my experience with ED/Contagion, Essence Drain is your big damage over time mechanic, and contagion does a lot less damage, but spreads to other targets once an enemy with DoT’s and contagion dies.

You can find a lot more information at #1357831739258572861

[still dirge]

guys does anyone know an effective method of shocking while under avatar of fire / archon of fire?

is there a beast that is the go to for being a shock mule?

or is avatar + archon of fire just flawed because of the inability to shock

If it was poe it would just be skitterbots and all set but idk here

[pearl sluice]

which class are you playing? Stormweaver could do that with "all damage Contributes to shock"

[wraith palm]

Gathering storm on weapon swap is what I do if I have no other way to shock

Obv only really effective for bossing but you can make it last like 15 seconds

[woven depot]

sounds like a poe 1 question

dont know of any autobombers in current poe 2 patch unfort

[glacial vessel]

I have no idea what are you talking about...

😛

[woven depot]

[still dirge]

thats junk tho

giving up several more multipliers just to gain the 25% archon of fire multi

If I have physical damage, from a skill like detonate dead, or an ascendancy like BM sanguine tides +50% physical

Flame archon deletes the physical damage?

So if I get avatar of fire to make it not delete the physical damage, whats the best way to shock?

[wraith palm]

Avatar of fire already deletes the physical damage, everything gets converted to fire.

There’s ways to make shocked ground for sure

[still dirge]

converts to 75%, then it gets multiplied by all the more multis I have to fire so it does significantly more.

[wraith palm]

Idk if I understand what you mean, but avatar of fire converts everything to fire, then reduces total damage by 25%

[still dirge]

100 - 25 = 75%

[wraith palm]

Idk if there’s some fire damage to shock chance tech or not but there are a few ways to make shocked ground for sure

[wraith palm]

Yes

Do you need the shock?

[still dirge]

its 20% damage

[wraith palm]

Yeah, if you’re trying to min max sure but if you don’t need it it might not be worth the trouble since I think you have to do some shocked ground shenanigans

I’ve tried forcing shock into builds a few times and sometimes it’s just more of a pain than what’s worth it haha

Or reconvert with the set of unique gloves but that won’t work for you since it sounds like you’re stacked into a lot of fire stuff

[still dirge]

is there some beast I would find for convenience

like a werebear with haste aura shock ground aura or something

[wraith palm]

That could work

Idk about shocked ground you’d have to look it up to see if it even exists. I know chilled ground does for sure though, so I don’t see why not

Shocked ground boots too but those make you slow

[still dirge]

isnt there a list of what beasts are able to spawn with what rare modifiers

or is the whole pool available

cause I think id be looking for anything with Haste Aura + All damage from hits shocks

[wraith palm]

Check poe2db

Remember that the beast needs to do enough damage to shock in the first place if you take that route

[placid willow]

Edit: oops didn't realize i was in poe2, sorry

[distant parcel]

Any builds like pcob or rf in the game? Having trouble finding something I like

[wraith palm]

what do both of those do

[distant parcel]

Righteous fire or rf is a ring of fire around player that damages enemies , pcob poisonous concoction of bouncing is a skill that throws exploding vials at enemies and doesn’t use a weapon in the build

[wraith palm]

i dont think flame wall is the skill you want but flame wall exists and you can kinda make it a ring around you, but again i dont think thats the thing haha

pathfinder has a bunch of different concoctions, none of which bounce tho

(they're kinda ass tho rn)

but ppl are crushing stuff with acidic concotion altho the current interaction they're using is a bug

[distant parcel]

Hmm alright I’ll do more research I’m just fairly new to these game I’ve beat Poe 1 a few times now but they feel different and it’s making it hard for me

[wraith palm]

theres a lot of cool stuff to do with poe2 tbh. i havent played 1 at all

just keep in mmind that 2 is still an early access title

lots of stuff needs tuning imo

[sour knot]

I am playing arc, and using Path of Building and watnted to look at some alternate route for my skill tree. Does anyone know why this shows no dps increase?

[left matrix]

Depending on your configuration, existing build, skill gems and the abilities you are using, its possible that lightning pen doesnt increase dps.

Check:
Pen cap, natural pen cap is 50% - pinnacle bosses only have 50% resistance to begin with, pen cannot go below 0.

Exposure,
Are you applying exposure in addition to having pen? Exposure counts as res reduction, and can go below 0, but pen will only have value for existing resist above 0% after exposure and reductions.

Configuration, are you configured to be measuring dps against a pinnacle boss at T1-3? The default config is vs pinnacle boss T1, most people don't change this and this can have impact on accuracy and evasion mostly but could also affect other aspects.

You would need to share your POB and hope that someone is willing to analyze it for you and point out where your build has redundancies.

[left matrix]

Flame wall with the Fortress support is the ring of fire you're looking for, scaling with spell damage.

Poisonous Concoctions are from the Pathfinder ascendency and scale as attacks, but do not use weapon stats.

Bow has poison abilities like poisonous arrow, Gas arrow, Vine Arrow and more, to capitalize off poisons.

Crossbows also have gas grenades that function similarly

Igniting a gas cloud causes it to explode for an attack damage modifier, doing fire damage, which is unrelated to the gas cloud's poison damage or scaling. The explosion itself is a form of attack on its own.

I'd recommend checking out decompose or poison arrow pathfinder builds on youtube, as well as gas grenade oil grenade mortar crossbow builds.

Alternatively if you're all in for the ring of fire tech, check out flame wall spark builds that infuse lightning projectile spells with fire damage, as well as minion builds like skeleton sniper or storm mage minion builds that bolster the minions with flame wall. Lastly there is blackflame covenant that converts all your fire damage to chaos damage. Bunch of cool interactions there.

[sour knot]

Honestly, I would love to figure it out but I just went ahead and socketed the item that inverts res and dropped any exposure/pen.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/74qsj0ah

here's this in case you, or anyone else, may have some insight.

[left matrix]

If you have Rakiata's flow, use it. Its very very strong.
Not only does it outperform most dps gaining supports, but it also saves opportunity cost on bypassing enemy resistances.

Avoid and ignore all pen and exposure Except: adding pen supports on abilities not supported by Rakiata's flow.

[magic marlin]

In planning for 040, the Lich's Eldritch Empowerment. I know the Empowerment affects the initial damage and costs the 5% ES of ED/Cont. But does the empowerment affect the DoT's?

I did some testing back in 020 that seemed to show that +lvl affected the DoT, but that gear +Chaos/Spell Dmg, did NOT affect the DoT. Going by displayed numbers. I didn't play ED in 030 as more than a low level starter, but might have to start one.

Anyone have better or more current info?

[wraith palm]

All of those affect both ed and contagion

[still dirge]

Are Archon buff recovery periods basically cooldowns or their own thing

[formal geyser]

Who getting they fursona ready for Druids

[woven depot]

I love that you posted this in build planning lmao

[formal geyser]

You gotta build your fursona

[cerulean kraken]

How does [Spray and Pray] interact with travel abilities? Leap Slam, Stampede, etc.

20% reduced Accuracy Rating while moving
50% increased Attack damage while moving
8% reduced Movement Speed Penalty from using Skills while moving
Are you 'moving' when you hit things when 'landing', I guess it must apply to stampede while in middle portion.
Does movement speed penalty apply to travel skills?

[inner badger]

what build should i do with shadow

[polar crag]

Any undecember players here? Is there any skill in PoE2 similar to piercing arrow or wheel slash? Can't find any skill in PoE2 2 that I like... 🙁

[bold ember]

New class inc??

[worldly current]

I have a question about my build, I'm using the ingenuity belt, so it won't let me use a thawing charm, and I'm unsure of what charm I should use in place of it. I'm currently running an anti-slow charm and an anti-stun charm

anyone have any ideas?

[uncut bay]

okay I am saving these questions and will make a hilarious compilation of them

[inner badger]

Creo from JKA 😮 poggers

Shit I meant to post that in poe1 🙁

[uncut bay]

hold on, do you know me from jka?

[inner badger]

ik u and u tutorials 🙂 a bit, not personally

[uncut bay]

wow this is awesome, thanks man

I never would have expected to meet someone outside of jka that knows me

[inner badger]

😄 great minds player similar great games 😄

[uncut bay]

indeed

[half wedge]

hey i was looking for assasin builds in poeninja to repurpose my unused assasin and found quite a bit of people doing wardstacking cobra lash with nightgrip, like this: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers/character/Glacier_re-4111/Glacier_KotF?i=5&search=class%3DAssassin%26skills%3DCobra%2BLash%26sort%3Ddps

while damage looks amazing max hits are REALLY low, is this build used for a specific kind of content like zhp builds in sanctum?

[uncut bay]

there is no assasin in the game

[half wedge]

oh sorry thought i posted it on the poe1 section

[formal geyser]

Yeah, this is the fursona build section in a couple weeks

[mint jackal]

i have a question, we make our item build based on our passive tree or passive tree based on items?

[fading light]

so, I'm in the 2nd Interlude map now, and I'm still using a wand from lvl 10... the dmg is pretty good still, but I'm wondering if at this point there is a wand with stats that is worth more than +3 to lvl of all spells skill

[static torrent]

You can get even more levels than that on a Rare Wand, up to +5 to a specific element or +4 to all Spells.

And then you can add on Damage as Extra if your damage comes from Hits, though you can throw on a rune onto the Lifesprig to get some until then.

[fading light]

wow, awesome, thanks

[icy lake]

Realistically, that wand should be able to carry you all the way through your 3rd ascendancy pretty comfortably.

[distant dome]

Does anyone know if Dreadfist doubles the amount of impale put up by bonestorm?

[cedar aspen]

I’m using Incinerate as part of my build but only have 4 sockets. I don’t know whether Burgeon 2 or Extraction is better to use if I’m using Blackflame Covenant.

Current supports are Ignite 3/ searing flame 2/ considered casting/ burgeon 2

Extraction would be fine as I’m Lich and have the “life in affected if i have ES” node

Potentially looking to swap to infernalist if this Zealots Oath tech im wanting to try doesn’t pay off

[nimble acorn]

Can someone tell me what beast I should tame for a bleed huntress build?

[deep leaf]

I don't remember, which class is better for the whirlwind/cyclone build?

[autumn pond]

So can someone make a list of all the Wolf enemies in the game that are bind specter-able? I think I have a cool gimmick build going

[fading light]

I'm going for a curse build, does impending doom support gem trigger when the curse is consumed by using hexblast, or does it have to expire naturally?

[still dirge]

very early acts the vendors start having staves with +3 level and then useful mods, some even solar orb

[still dirge]

poedb

[still dirge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/b4Ib15Q5OmQ?si=uLdrbnsvHs3uL88Z

[ionic flint]

does anyone happen to know if brutus' brain works with Loyalty and Feeding Frenzy? Im getting mixed signals looking at ninja

[gaunt ether]

whats considered "good" dps when looking at a pob

[wraith palm]

There’s not a magic number

[gaunt ether]

average mob health isnt known in t15+/ each tier boss?

trying out poe 1 it seems its known over there

[wraith palm]

Average mob health is known you can look that up on poe2db I mean dps doesn’t have a magic number before your build is “good enough” or whatever

Significantly more based on how it feels for you

Like I can get another 20% more if i get a source of shock on, but it doesn’t feel good to do, so I don’t

[rough granite]

Does anyone play phys crossbow still in this league

I got some equipment I feel bad of going to waste

[cedar aspen]

Is it me or is it slightly strange that the tooltip stating how talismans work contributes to shapeshifting abilities.

Like does that mean any character is able to use talismans and go shapeshifter then?

[wraith palm]

They’re the same as any other weapon

[formal geyser]

I mean a witch can use maces and mm ace skills, so why wouldn't she be able to shapeshift

[cedar aspen]

I was just surprised because I thought that Druids ascension would determine its ability to shapeshift, not so much the weapon. But that definitely creates an opening for more creative builds around shapeshifting

[sharp thorn]

They usually try to make classes wider than that. For example deadeye is limited to projectiles but projectiles can be created by bows, xbows, spells and even maces.

[woven depot]

deadeye isnt even limited to projectiles tbh

[sharp thorn]

Also true.

[silent prawn]

do we know if Druid has any thorns tech?

[silent prawn]

can't wait to find out

[warped dune]

Anyone knows how to inflict armour break + armour explosion with Herald of Thunder?
It seems to work for him:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1p65m8e/comment/nquyi54/?context=1

but I tried it, and it isn't working for me. You need physical damage on HoT, but it converts 100% of it to lightning, so how does it work?

[woven depot]

Do you have gain as extra phys sources, like he had on his wep

Flat phys will be converted

[warped dune]

ahh, I only have flat, but gain as extra will not be converted?

good 2 know

thanks mate

[woven depot]

no worries, he seems confused as well reading the comments

[warped dune]

hm, since you only can get it on weapons and I play hollow palm, can't get that interaction
really wish they would buff fire interactions

[woven depot]

Unique jewels as well

And there’s some extra phys on the tree iirc

[warped dune]

which one? just check trade site for extra physical + jewel and no results

[woven depot]

maybe no jewel actually, thought either Heart of the well or ATD had it

[warped dune]

one actually, otherwise it is physical into extra x-element damage.
material solidification, which you can grab with walker from nothing, hm maybe, but might be too little to break armour.
was only for armour explosion anyway since I barely deal physical damage, guess not worth it

[warped dune]

yeah thought so too, but I guess not 😄

[woven depot]

uul netols embrace ig

i imagine thatd be kinda awkward for you to set up though with a hollow palm build hehe

[warped dune]

yeah, thought about it, maybe it works

[warped dune]

doesn't work, guess support gems doesn't work before the convert of the skill gem, unlucky 😅
but you can combine it with other converts of ele dmg to chaos, achherrje

ah wait, you cant combine breachlord gems

game over

[cedar aspen]

True. Good point. Will see what’s what on the reveal trailer also

[wraith palm]

you can get damage as extra phys on companion as well

its the ones that have like a super saiyan aura

[quartz pewter]

I tried that with my Merc Tactician and the extra phys damage wasn't much

[cobalt fox]

How come there's no Church of Druid thread yet?!

[quartz pewter]

No animals allowed in a church

[silent glade]

Grove of Druid? 🤔

[woven depot]

The Dog Park

Oooo

The Kennel

[silent glade]

that is not very awoo

[woven depot]

[quartz pewter]

Emerald Grove Druid (BG3 reference)

[low arrow]

Are there any regen based builds like rf in poe2?

[slate holly]

Im starting the season super late. Since i just got back to the game don't remember much of it. Can anybody link me a good build that has so much visuals and chaos that might crash ur system🤣 and is fun to play. But not monk?

[summer pasture]

Not yet

The build similar to RF would be thorns I suppose

[neat breach]

Someone did a rhoa build with the infernal legion support gem

[dawn burrow]

hey im looking to do some speed run practice and im after some build suggestions. im looking to run trials of sekhemas carries for the first week or two of league so im looking for high single target with decent ish speed i can put together on the first day or two of league (i know we still waiting for patch notes and things might change)

[uncut bay]

historically the new build was the strongest

rn lightning arrow is perfect forbsuch a start

[dawn burrow]

ok thanks. i was looking for something a bit off meta just to avoid competition on gear.

[frail crystal]

Is spark sorc a decent starter?

Well doesnt have to be sorc, can be witch

[fiery gate]

is there a greatsword or gladiator in the game yet

[static torrent]

Duelist, the class associated with Swords, is not yet in the game. We know that they intend to have the class in the game prior to, or in 1.0, so it is very likely to be one of the next classes after Druid.

[pearl sluice]

sparc only not really, but with frost bomb & firewall its not bad

[cerulean current]

does rarity affect runic splinter drops in logbooks?

[sharp thorn]

No. Rarity is on kill effect. You need logbooks with extra chests if you want better chance to get more splinters.

[cerulean current]

Follow up confirmation: the runic monsters themselves dont drop splinters its only the chests?

[sharp thorn]

They don't. You need to open artifact chests (marked with the Expedition icon)

And no, runic splinters are not artifacts so "increased quantity of artifacts" also doesn't affect them.

[cerulean current]

Super helpful thanks!

[cerulean kraken]

How does a Titan get Manifest Weapon?
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abyss/character/tups-1582/Tupsss?i=1&search=skills%3DMolten%2BBlast%26passiveids%3D32349%252C59208%26heatmap%3Dtrue
I can't see Living Weapon granted by any item
Bug in website? Or some way I'm missing

[hoary bolt]

pretty sure its a poe ninja import bug when people switch to titan from smith without unsocketing all their support gems

[cerulean kraken]

Thanks, good to know

[uncut bay]

spark builds are a bad league starter imo, idk where you can get the damage from

bad for leveling too, compared to the strong leveling builds

[quartz pewter]

It's probably fine... leveling usually involves more than 1 skill use anyways to get that damage up

[warped viper]

if i have a chaos and a minion weapon set, and i cast Essence drain and swap to the minion set before the projectile hits the boss, the chaos damage tree is still snapshotted on the projectile right?

because that tree was active the moment the proj was created

or does it not work like this?

[copper pond]

A celebrity in chat 🫡

[uncut bay]

hey I enjoy your videos, great content!

I make some poe2 vids as well, but no subscribers

[unique ether]

any recommendations for a build that’s a bit more forgiving while I try to learn wasd?

[still dirge]

ice caster

roll around and when you roll into the pack you just ice nova twice, then move on

then in maps you get much better stuff

If you have 0 Energy Shield are you technically on Full Energy ?

If you have many persistent buffs and put Vitality on all of them. Will you get multiple % of life regen

[jade hull]

Based on the fact that zenith support require you to be at 90+ mana when the projectile hit the target to work for the dot, I would assume that the dot take the tree at the time the projectile hit (and the tree at the time the projectile was created for the hit damage)

[jade hull]

No, you need to have over 0 to be considered "having" es

[jade hull]

I don't know but it should be easy to test by removing all other sources of regen

[tidal birch]

What are the best leaugestarters in the last league to do all content with out needing to level a new char?

[bright pine]

cdot lich

[uncut bay]

yeah essence drain lich, lightning arrow deadeye

[true hemlock]

Anyone have an idea of how can I build an Amazon with eye of winter as the main skill?

[cedar aspen]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Mr BJSkinner-8808/character/Skinzerai

any advice?

Barely made through T3 Xesht still have Arby to fight. Clear is fine, defences could be better but bossing is slow. I’m SSF.

[solemn orbit]

Does the enemies deal less damage effect on Enfeeble apply before or after the Armor formula?

[hoary bolt]

thats an enemy debuff, so it should be before

it directly modifes the outgoing damage of the enemy

[solemn orbit]

Sweet. Was hoping to use it with Blasphemy on a close range character as a Temu POE1 endurance charges (weakens the hit before you take it so the Armor is more effective at mitigating).

[hoary bolt]

yep its pretty good because it sort of double dips in the sense that it directly reduces the damage taken, but also makes armour stronger

[solemn orbit]

Yep, then I'd want to stack armor to at least 40k so I can get max benefit from Refraction III on a banner. If I go tactician for synergy with banners and the reduced spirit costs, I can maybe use the doedre ring and have 2 blasphemy auras so I can throw in ele weakness for two sources of dropping enemy res. Would obviously use some elemental skill or skill combo which I haven't decided on yet. Getting to the armor req and managing the attributes might be tricky on Tactician as opposed to Titan though, but I'll wait for 0.4 patch notes before I go too deep in this rabbit hole.

[uncut bay]

you dont, amazon is useless for spells

[high rivet]

do you guys feel like thorns ignoring armour is worth it? cause if you're warbringer you break it quite easily, but i consume it myself to refresh spiked plating

[tame mirage]

can someone help me improve my monk stormwave build? i can buy more gear if needed

[hollow galleon]

do we have any more datamine info or any info at all on patch notes?

[static torrent]

We'll have patch notes after the announcement.

[hollow galleon]

ahh thursday, k

https://tenor.com/view/restless-legs-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-anxious-gif-25853308

[high rivet]

question, for inner turmoil, if say an enemy is already shocked, do you need to remove the shock to have it count as inflicting another ailment?

[spark ingot]

it's the most useless passives on the tree. there are no comparison about how useless they are for Thorns build. +0% of anything

[high rivet]

sort of what i thought, you can break armour fairly easily

unless you're doing non-warbringer thorns

the only usable way i've found of breaking armour on non-warbringer thorns that feels good is bloodhounds mark

and it only really feels good against bosses

[spark ingot]

nope. There is NO WORLD where this is useful in ANY way. it's Armour, so... only affects phys thorns(and fire, if you have passive for that), and most of the time you are eighter Warbringer, or you are using Any mark skill to break armour with the exception of Fire Avatar-Non warbringer build, that need's to use Resonating shield to do that. and if you are not Breaking armour, you don't use scavenged plating so you don't really have dmg...

[midnight geode]

if i use this armor and take this notable, is my evasion lucky or unlucky? Im guessing they cancel each other out?

[spark ingot]

you know that you are comparing the Chance for Deflect/evasion and Damage taken from hits???

[midnight geode]

wait..

[static torrent]

One affects the chance to Evade and Deflect, the other affects the damage you take. They affect different stats, and therefore Evasion remains Unlucky, Deflect remains Lucky, and damage from hits is Unlucky.

[midnight geode]

you right lmao my bad

[somber badge]

Does anyone know, if a sceptor has a "all allies gain x% damage", is that affected by use of the Lone Warrior passive node (allies do not gain your aura buffs)?

[sharp thorn]

Modifiers from a scepter is different from aura buffs. Cause aura buffs refers to skills that are aura and buff.

For now these skills are spirit skills with banners or auras from scepter like purity of ice and such.

[somber badge]

so if I had lone warrior allocated, I should still be able to give my party the "allies deal 100% extra damage in your prescence"

[sharp thorn]

Yes, these are not aura buffs.

[somber badge]

awesome! thank you. I'm a pure support build, so wanted to make sure I wasn't harming my duo

[inner badger]

How do I make my own build

[atomic halo]

have an idea and try to execute it

that's how most builds are made

i.e. "this lightning arrow skill looks strong, especially when used with lightning rod."

and then everything flows from that and your overall understanding of the game's mechanics, itemization, content, etc.

if you're not particularly knowledgable and/or you're not interested in failing to some degree (as everyone does when they try to make their own builds), i wouldnt recommend it

[uncut stratus]

hey does anyone know if Increased Chaos Dmg or Chaos DoT will actually scale poison damage?

[hoary bolt]

increases to chaos damage will only scale poison if the source hit damage is chaos

[sharp thorn]

Is it a poe1 or 2 question? I don't remember chaos dot as a modifier here.

[uncut bay]

both should scale poison

[uncut bay]

you make a few builds following other people's builds and learn the different items, mods, passives etc. then find a synergy for your own build

[brittle anvil]

no? nothing scales poison but magnitudes

[still dirge]

if the hit applying it is chaos and scaled by chaos techinically chaos damage increase scales poison

[uncut bay]

I did a poison build this league, I should know lol, I took lots of increased chaos damage passives and it scaled my damage

[brittle anvil]

the hit is to calculate base poison damage, that damage can only be scaled by magnitude

if you do chaos damage then sure it will contribute to base, increased chaos doesn't scale it further

that means if you do full phys, increased chaos does nothing

[uncut bay]

didn't know that, thanks. I did poisonburst arrow

[granite haven]

Ho there I maked a build of Mine, the first build i Made, if u want to help to make me improve this build i take all the suggestions and criticism. https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/jt3hp0av thanks for the help

[uncut bay]

your build doesn't apply poison very well, so it has little synergy with pathfinder, you waste a lot of skill points and this is a glass cannon

[still dirge]

Maybe this poe mechanic stays the same in poe2?

[errant lark]

787prada made a video for this exact question

[errant lark]

That would be my guess as well. It’s only true physical mitigation via armour or PDR that would count

[safe geode]

guys

the infernalist still good or it cant be a league starter?

[woven depot]

you can league start any ascendancy

[quartz pewter]

I would say Deadeye is the #1 league starter

[safe geode]

but i thought GGG nerf infernalist and the endgame isnt very good

[woven depot]

Infernalist is plenty strong as an ascendancy and the endgame isn’t tuned remotely harsh enough to make any ascendancy unplayable

[safe geode]

I want to try with SRS

But idk if this minions still good

[elfin rapids]

whats the best class? like most op dps + clear rate for new player?

[bright pine]

right now its deadeye

but could change for next league

[elfin rapids]

u mean druid is strong?

[static torrent]

We don't know. However, leagues typically come with major balance changes, sometimes outright breaking existing builds, buffing them, or creating new ones through new mechanics, skills, the league and so on.

[lilac wadi]

Anyone doing minions this league?

[quartz pewter]

You can count on Ghazzy doing minions. Most likely, I think minions and specters are reliable for a lot of patches with how much work has been put into them.

[dense trench]

try doing druid wolf minions

[dense trench]

druid has wolf, bear , dragon,... forms

so kinda

[wraith palm]

We don’t know what it’ll be strength wise yet

[mighty wing]

another ass patch incoming

[static torrent]

And this is relevant to build planning how?

[quartz pewter]

Let me guess... bo7like hit you with the no PoE tag too hu

[mighty wing]

ohh hello again

[mighty wing]

what?:D

[quartz pewter]

Nothing

[atomic halo]

one warning before you get no-help-channels too

[mighty wing]

[quartz pewter]

Hey at least you got a warning.. I didn't get jack lol

[mighty wing]

agree with me or ban

[atomic halo]

yea im nice like that

[atomic halo]

👋

[quartz pewter]

I got a trigger happy mod unforch... appears communicating to others is not their skill set

[sterile latch]

Is the game gonna be much much easier since we won't add deli% on maps now ? or did I miss something

[eternal meadow]

Is there currently some corpse spawning skill in the game?

[static torrent]

No, though you can use Sacrifice to consume Minions as though they were Corpses.

[errant lark]

Unlikely. You might still run delerium tablets now. But also the new change to monster pack size buffing the monsters instead might make them SUPER tanky compared to before

[rapid star]

anyone thinking that Invoker or Stormweaver are going to be good for Wyvern or Wolf?

[errant lark]

it's attacks not spells, and invoker is on the other side of the tree

[rapid star]

I mean we all classes can be the animals, it is a "weapon", so while you don't get the shapeshift nodes you can get other nodes...

[errant lark]

True, but is there enough generic attack increases? Gonna have to wait and see for passive tree

[rapid star]

yeah I think I'm trying to think to much ahead with too little info

[teal dock]

Time to make a Mace oracle

[quasi tinsel]

blood mage untouched huh

[high rivet]

this was a bug?

[thin basin]

hmmmm they kept the herald of blood bleed/poison interaction?

[worldly bluff]

whats the fastest ascendancy lowk

[high rivet]

does cast on crit work with thorns, or no because its not a 'skill'

[carmine flicker]

ehh, all actually interesting things(druid skills) we will have to look ourselves after patch, look like

[craggy tiger]

am i missing where teh info is for teh new spell totem?

[formal geyser]

Well, no nerf to bone cage except ataluis and tecrods (which really isn't that bad)

[formal geyser]

Wild, but the two biggest offenders for it were tecrod and atalui combination making it a ridiculously powerful build

With those two nerfed it shouldn't be as absurd. Though it will still be quite strong

[carmine flicker]

tecrod was nerfed?

[simple rampart]

there is no ascendancy details about druid yet, right?

[quartz comet]

just the comments from the annoucement video

[proven jewel]

Are there builds like HOT autobomber available in POE2? I have only played infernalist minions, LS-zon, and the RF-RHOA mount builds. I tried to look it up but so far have fallen on most builds requiring temporalis and … I’m not that hardcore of a player for POE2 - Also I tend to play on steamdeck

[formal geyser]

Recovery was

4s instead of 8

[high rivet]

question on inner turmoil, say an enemy is already shocked, if i shock again does it give me 1 volatility, or do i need to remove the shock or something first

[honest hawk]

unless I'm wrong, you would just never use culmination support now because combo finisher does the same bonus while only needing 5 combo, and you can't use both together (the game doesn't let you equip if you're already using one)

I guess with culmination you aren't locked out of using the skill entirely without having combo points

[carmine flicker]

So 50% less recovery
That's actually huge

[formal geyser]

however atalui's doesn't increase cost as heavily either

[carmine flicker]

So double nerf

[formal geyser]

So obviously that's a nerf to damage, but you're not gonna blast yourself to death

yeah

[carmine flicker]

I mean, noone blasted itself to death before too

Noone who know what he's doing anyway

I guess I missed my chance to play it, then
Really need those cool hidden druid passives

[restive ocean]

What ascendency for spell totem build

[eternal meadow]

Anyone here played Infernalist Demonflame stacker? How did you mitagete the life loss?

[teal dock]

Oracle hybrid mace magic build calls

[gray hazel]

Wyvern power charge generation huh

I wonder if we can bring back flicker strike with it

Druid quarterstaff

[pallid mason]

do any skills in particular work best with chronomancers slowing/time freeze? very cool for defensive purposes but not sure how to use her offensively

[formal geyser]

Honestly this can work really well for building power charges on any ascendancy. Would be excellent for abyssal lich

[gray hazel]

That's what I was thinking tbh

Also the totems

Very good if you just wanna go basic magic druid

Just have 2-3 spamming spark or some shit

Drop some fire rings down too

Free damage

Guess that would depend on how many support gems you can stick into it tbh

Or if it just copies your main skill

[small slate]

there goes my Falling Thunder fun

[celest oxide]

I hope talismans/shape shifting is good they look fucking sick

Hoping something with the Bear or Wyvern especially

[dreamy bridge]

how was rainbowstorm last league? was thinking it'll be better with the moving area support

[limpid vine]

You guys think it's possible to league start incinerate pathfinder, leveling with the skill and everything?

[drifting burrow]

I have this idea for a mace/shield build using retaliate and direstrike, but it's proving to be pretty unreliable to use effectively. It works pretty well in mass mob situations, but in lower population or against bosses it's painfully slow to build up the meter even if you play optimally. Has anyone tried setting up something using these supports? What persistent skills would work best, attack skills etc.?

[royal totem]

what build you think will be meta?

[sharp fable]

I dropped a post in the build help channel - basically I'm looking for a way to cast some form of chain lightning when striking with melee weapon

[wraith palm]

Cast on skills, look through spirit gems

[woven depot]

invoker kinda has that with elemental expression as well

[frozen summit]

is there a tree to play around planning druid builds on? 🤔

[eternal meadow]

If you mean the new, 0.4 tree, it's not out yet

I wager a guess that starting Druid nodes, on offensive side, are gonna be spell and attack dmg, so you could level it with EDC about as well as Witch/Sorc, just with some extra travel early on

[frozen summit]

Appreciate the reply anyhow 👍

liking the shound of wolf druid

[high rivet]

so we can hit 100% of damage taken from mana before life now right?

without needing mind over matter

well we needed stormweaver before, but now it can be any class

[craggy tiger]

I was REALLY hoping for righteous fire bear...maybe next league

[midnight bolt]

u got lightning storm/fire storm/tornado/apocalypse bear instead, literally sounds better with new gem that makes skills follow you

[oblique cedar]

warrior bros how we looking coming unto the new patch? i haven't played since launch

[woven depot]

looks fine tbh

smith got some nice changes

[errant lark]

Happy that ancestral warrior totems got a buff

Although hateforge might be ultra expensive this league

[twin sierra]

very good

[oblique cedar]

Nice, my main issues is that while i liked the OOMPH slams had, i just kept getting interrupted and felt like i was made of paper despite the heavy armour, did that get fixed?

[short saffron]

What's Critical Kill?

[errant lark]

Ehhh…. If you build for it yeah. But not many popular warrior builds are slow slams rn

[errant lark]

When you kill an enemy with a critical hit

[short saffron]

Oh

[craggy tiger]

i have teh pretty mtx from poe1......so i was just hoping

or wyvern righteous fire

[twin sierra]

best warrior build rn is arguably shield wall

armour is fine, not fantastic by any means but u defo feel it

[tidal fossil]

can someone clarify the hollow palm nerf?
is it still viable for endgame, late game juice

[craggy tiger]

I am hoping some of teh new skills or ascendancies will work well with shield charge/shield wall/frozen locus. Or i am planning to just use shield charge with the elemental exposure shield, followed up by a weapon swap shield wall/charge with the extra damage mods...keeping it simple

[hybrid ocean]

Is this just boilerplate, or is there a way to increase the max number stored?

[safe geode]

GUYS

hexblast is worthit now?

or a build with comet?

[solid sequoia]

Pretty much, this is a skippable league

[mental hull]

Anyone really excited for pathfinder energy shield?

global defenses on attribute means you can scale evasion+es very well, and you can get sorc stuff. Since spear is 1 handed, you can have a focus on off hand so you don't really lose anything

And since you are stacking evasion+es, you also get pretty good elemental damage reduction

[celest oxide]

I’ve seen a couple random comments of people being intrigued by Wyvern Deadeye?

[woven depot]

people are memeing, its based on deadeyes dominance the last 2 leagues

[mental hull]

seems like lich is much more dominant, no?

[woven depot]

in hardcore sure

[mental hull]

well they should balance around hc, you can't really balance around the game mode where defenses are irrelevant