2┃build-planning

[topaz talon]

why cant I unsocket this?

[iron harbor]

looks like you have a small crit node allocated

[chilly swan]

I don't understand the scaling of pillar of the caged god. Does it's strength modifier also apply to flat damage from things like gloves?

[topaz talon]

the hero I needed, ty

[chilly swan]

Temper Weapon doesn't work the way I thought it did. Is it supposed to combust multiple times for skills that hit multiple times? Like flicker strike, whirling assault, or rapid assault?

[chilly swan]

Is this intended? Or a bug? And, is the same true for things like mantra of destruction? Does it only apply to the first hit?

[sharp thorn]

You allocated this.

Oh ok, you figured out. Sry

[violet panther]

when using falling thunder, does it consume the power charges vefore or after the strike? trying to figure out if i should count pwoer charge crit rate for falling thunder

[true shell]

Anyone have any idea why when I try to set storm mages to weapon set 2 with no spirit spent yet it says I don't have enough spirit?

[true shell]

Figured it out, for some reason if you have a dueling wand in weapon set 2 it makes you unable to allocate spirit until you put a spell in your spellslinger.

[odd charm]

Is it possible to make up the the res caps with a ring -1 pref +1 suf? Or any other ring?

[mossy moat]

does anyone know if meteor shrine can crit?

[sleek sedge]

Trying to concoct my first off-meta build. What's the best way to consume power charges with a ranged build? I've seen like... use quarterstaff moves, and whatever that spirit gem passive is that uses one every 10 seconds. Are there better options?

[alpine basin]

Ruby ring with all res, fire res, light and chaos might do it. With catalysts of course. But you’d need like all t1 rolls.

[gusty timber]

does damage over time snapshot?

lets say, you ramp wth indigon and cast essence drain

if ED is still up by the time the ramp ends, will it still get have the increased damage

[alpine basin]

Whatever it was cast with, to my knowledge

[cedar aspen]

You’re talking about Smith of Kitava right? Temper Weapon empowers your weapon up to 12 stacks. That means that for 12 hits, each hit will do fire damage and “combust” an enemy. Which looks like the effect causes 100% phys to fire in a 2.5 radius explosion. Are you using this on a quarter staff build? If so then I’ve not tried that before. But if something is messing up in the phys to fire conversion it could be that.

[cedar aspen]

Mantra is the same, it Empowers 1 attack. You activate mantra and you basically have a timer of 8 seconds to use another attack that it will empower, which then gives you purple flames of Chayula for each kill with that attack. So it’s like beneficial for attacks like Falling Thunder. I believe it also benefits Flicker Strike too, but don’t quote me on that.

[solar forge]

heres what im running as a lvl 38 sorceress
im currently getting destroyed in the azak bog
anybody got good gear to trade?

[formal geyser]

That's very weird. Definitely a bug

[formal geyser]

@naive cairn seems like a bug. I ran into this too but couldn't figure it out

[naive cairn]

I'll read through this, but the tl;dr is that you can't allocate any spirit at all if you have an empty dueling wand in your second weapon set and you're trying to allocate spirit in your first weapon set?

[silent glade]

I was just looking at this too, it's a known bug internally already 🙂

[formal geyser]

Oh cool

Ty!

[naive cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[formal geyser]

Haha

[weary falcon]

does cast speed modifiers affect maximum energy of "Cast on x"? It says it's based on the "base cast speed" and putting considered casting (-15% cast speed) doesnt seem to change the maximum energy, but if that is the case, why doesn't everyone use that for damage and no downside?

nvm considered casting can only be put into spells you cast yourself

[snow gorge]

anyone have any advice on how to get more blood loss build up with a ritulalist?

[sudden stirrup]

ive been using ember fusillade chaos and with orb of storm to get the lightning things for better mobbing wondering how good this amulet is?

or even owrth using

[formal geyser]

Unfortunately rare amulets can get +3 to spell levels, which by default makes them better than just about any unique amulet.

[sudden stirrup]

no amulet is def better

but was jsut wondering was it worth but was jsut an idea

[formal geyser]

If you're scaling lightning it COULD be better. Bc it's 19 levels of a lightning bolt, but the max triggers per second is 2. So it's probably eh.

Just add it to a trigger build and make the screen unreadable

[sand juniper]

what supprt gems you guys have on wind dancer? also i wonder if magnified area works with it?

[iron harbor]

yeah it works, mostly its that and utility/safety things like blind, maim, knockback

[sand juniper]

cheers mate

[livid plaza]

Unholy Might doesn't work on dots dmg does it?

[sand juniper]

thanks to rhoa bug now i have 81 spirit to spare.. not sure what to get.
i already have rakiata on lightening arrow, i was thinking maybe get elemental invocation with elemental weakness on it, is there a max for negative elemental resistance? or maybe Rakiata is more than enough?

[iron harbor]

it treats the resistance as reversed, you would actually significantly hurt your damage with ele weakness

[sand juniper]

oh boy totally missed this point lol cheers

so what you suggest to get with the free spirit i have?

already got wind dancer, ghost dance and herald of thunder

[iron harbor]

more heralds I guess? or maybe blasphemy-temp chain for safety? I kinda like that... or the spirit supports are always nice, if you dont have skill slots, less duration of freeze and ignite, more flask charges, life on kill, whatever you need

[sand juniper]

i was thinking about tame beast? maybe get minion boost my movement speed?

[iron harbor]

I dont think there is much point in cast on whatever, spells would deal no damage and you dont really need any expousure/curse

[sand juniper]

yeah true

[iron harbor]

for tame beast youd need the keystone that allows two companions, and it would cost you a lot of defenses

[sand juniper]

oh i see

[iron harbor]

or you could not abuse that rhoa spirit bug, also a choice - more ethical, but absolutely less fun 😅

[sand juniper]

yeah i'm just doing this for fun lol pretty sure they gonna fix it at some point

wish if we can use barrage on elemental invocation

oh but wait the roha bug you disale the mount

which means i can use companion now hahahaha

but i guess that means stepping into ban territory

[iron harbor]

I have no clue what the bug is, but they usually dont ban for gameplay bugs like that

not that I encourage you to use it though!

[steady flint]

Anyone know of a good way of generating frenzy charges without insane amount of investment? Preferably without Resonance if possible, as im using mercenary

[iron harbor]

Combat Frenzy and Sniper's mark?

[steady flint]

Yeah, im doing either Glacial Lance or Lightning Spear, would getting at maximum 2 charges per 6s be enough?

Why do they make charge generation so hard

I guess some cdr on Sniper's Mark would help, but youd need to give up amulet for serpents egg right?

[iron harbor]

I dont see why youd need to give up amulet? but yeah, its not much generation, witch charge profusion supports you get more charges, but its still not amazing... for mapping you can use the spear kill thingy, but that doesnt help with bosses, and of course you can parry and the jump aways thingy, but thats just super clunky (sorry dont rmember the skill names :D)

[steady flint]

Yeah, dont plan on parrying, then id rather just quit the league and wait for 0.4

[iron harbor]

yeeeea I would not recommend it 😅

[static plinth]

Did they remove the support that makes parry auto-consume for a frenzy

[iron harbor]

I dont think anything like that existed? 🤔

[quartz snow]

what level should I be if I want to respec into another build for endgame after campaign

[iron harbor]

the level that is needed for the new build to work? there is no universal answer to that

[quartz snow]

ok thank you

[heady garnet]

If i convert physical damage tanken to another type, does that count as mitigating physical damage?

[formal geyser]

In terms of? It "mitigates" it by converting to another type, which then is probably reduced by resistance

[heady garnet]

im just wondering if "made to last" notable will work in this case. I take phys hit, convert it to lightning with lightning coil, and my res reduces it. is that preventing physical damage

[formal geyser]

No, it's preventing lightning damage

[supple imp]

does herald of thunder proc on lightning rods

[alpine basin]

I saw a video on YouTube where i guy ran a build like this, and he used turtle charm, and in that case he did receive a ton more recoup from taking those hits but reducing them by 80%

[heady garnet]

ive seen that as well, im just trying to dind waysof adapting it to a witch hunter

[alpine basin]

Ahhh. I see

[summer sun]

i dont understand how this 100d+ bow is worst than the 10 div i got

like im really trying to scale my dps since im stuck but god i have no clue whats going on xd...

[atomic halo]

link the pob

and show the 10d bow

[maiden parcel]

hey guys anyone knows a link setup for lightning spear that could fit in a twister build.

[summer sun]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/1047e

i got the bow because i was browsing poeninja and saw a guy doing some weird stuff with that bow and the 3 heralds

[atomic halo]

is the onslaught being accounted for

also i dunno what your config is

because when i tried to add it in it says 20% damage gain

[summer sun]

im pretty newbie tbf, maybe my setup is bad

but im trying to follow the crt ms setup people are doing and taking the things i can afford

[atomic halo]

i mean using your own pob, it says 20% more damage

[summer sun]

ah

thats weird

maybe i click something i didnt have to

then nvm, i guess i should change it then

[tired hornet]

Question for my incinerate / burn enjoyers out there. I have a Heroic Tragedy that could give me a TON of Flammability Magnitude on an incinerate sorc. Would that actually significantly boost my DPS?

[grizzled geyser]

im following an ed/c build but it doesnt tell me how to start doing low life. what is it that enables the low life dmg

[proud hornet]

can someone recommend builds that is not CWDT chief for leagues start into as fast as possible ultimatums?

[tranquil wagon]

guys anyone here with sorc

[uncut bay]

oh no, are poe1 players invading the poe2 channels again?

[uncut bay]

you cast a spell with lifetap that lowers your life while you have no ES, so you use that helmet that gives you eldritch battery to get rid of ES

once your life is low you take off the helmet and the ES comes back

[uncut bay]

flammability magnitude increases the chance to ignite, incinerate always ignites, you need ignite magnitude, not flammability magnitude

[proud hornet]

oh sorry

[rotund tartan]

what makes blood mage so good for spark? is it all that bonus crit dmg scaling from life?

[uncut bay]

you double the life cost of your spells

that's double the damage and double the life and/or ES regeneration

on top of over 100% increased crit damage, spell base crit chance is 15%, part of the damage to you becomes damage over time and you have 1k life more if your chest has 1k ES

that enables rathpit on top of all of that which is a huge damage buff

so we have an ascendancy in the game that currently triples your damage and makes you immortal, sounds balanced xD

[dusk narwhal]

*until you hit less life recovery on maps

[rotund tartan]

sounds awesome actually

[rotund tartan]

that's probably gonna get nerfed now that I think about it

[iron harbor]

Oh yes it very likely is

[vocal gate]

can u guys recommend a build i can play together with my friend, that does not sabotage his Shield Walls by destroying them?

[neon gyro]

Essence Drain + Contagion, or self Ignite magma barrier, if his shield wall not already destroy everything lol

[round pier]

Need advice, what can I change in build to make Incinerate burn bosses faster? https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/FunApple-2347/character/MoraApple
since map boss skill passives been added it now deals not as much damage and can't burn most bosses in 2 time freezes
for bosses +4 to fire skills solar amulet is used with set 2 wand

[nimble acorn]

Hey there, just got this helmet, I'm wondering if it good for my huntress bleed build? Or should I just stick to like some good rare helmet?

Sounds like a good dmg boost buuuut I don't know if I really notice much of a difference

And I'm lvl 71 so I'm loosing allot of evasion as a tradeoff

[static plinth]

Its fine but iirc there's a combined 50% to aggravate bleed on crit on the skill tree

Between Merc and Huntress

Aggravate is literally 100% More damage, you basically need to get it somewhere

If youve determined this is your best option for the moment go for it

[nimble acorn]

That's the thing, I might already be getting it most of the time with this node

[static plinth]

Just stick with a rare imo

Any time you need aggravate to kill something itll be active

[nimble acorn]

Alright cool, thanks for the tips 🙂

[manic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPAdpp3q_FA&lc=UgwjQ-mGT1PtHLGMhmJ4AaABAg

[summer sun]

For a last lament wich would be better to sell dialla desire for a HH ?

or diallas too good for the HH trade off

i kinda have to choose one atm

[sterile spade]

Hey guys, what is currently the strongest build guide for hollow palm invoker?

[orchid swift]

why cant i put snipers mark in cast on crit ?

[static plinth]

Its not a spell

Changed this league

[orchid swift]

smh

[cedar aspen]

Guys if I get Self Immolation and Molten Carapace, and have 100% reduce ignite magnitude on self, I won’t take damage from being ignited. But if I have BlackFlame Covenant on, would I deal Chaos Damage to myself?

For science, of course…

[vital walrus]

what are some good boss skill/spells for monk?

say for speed running campaign

I've been running a contagion+ED for rly smooth pack clear

with either companion nodes or chaos damage nodes

it can be a DoT chaos skill, poison or anything from anyone and any weapon/spell class

since companion nodes are generic

and monk has access to other stuff if he wants instead

just need some good single target skill/spell suggestions I haven't tried just yet

any ideas

[cedar aspen]

Well you can continue to use Ed/contagion for clear that will get you quite far. If you’re sticking with that for bossing then Dark Effigy with over abundance does help a lot. Or perhaps weapon swapping to some lightning bow tech

[vital walrus]

i was act just thinkni of efigy but wasn't familiar with the supp gems. thanks for lettin me know about the +1 totem one

the bow setup is the one people use with the lightning rod and stuff?

sounds like a great idea how do you do the setup

[cedar aspen]

I’m not sure, sorry. I’m not a bow user but I could sure find a campaign guide for you if you’re looking to speed through to maps.

[cedar aspen]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ronarray-unarmed-hollow-palm-monk?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2Cdefault-variant

You could try this. It has tabs per stage and it looks like a pretty detailed guide to get you to where you want to be

[lusty ingot]

Why do i die pretty fast even though i have max res and like 85% armour

[minor tree]

skadoosh made an updated decompose pathfinder build!

has anyone tried decompose on other classes? i have a warrior and a sorceress, i'm curious to see if it can work for those too or if pathfinder is necessary

though losing the 2x poison node hurts

[brittle anvil]

pf is mostly for the poison spread I believe

[minor tree]

wasn't there a spirit gem with the same effect too?

i thought it's mainly for the 2x poison stacks

[brittle anvil]

you need a martial weapon to use that

[minor tree]

since when ò.ò

oh it does

[kind plume]

How do we feel about shield skill chronomancer for HCSSF 🧐

Its probably viable but I imagine a bit of an early grind

[coral finch]

does anyone play abyssal lich and have a build guide to recommend? i see the proliferation fire spreader but it's slow

[carmine flicker]

I played one and even made a guide
idk if it will be for your taste tho

[formal geyser]

I saw someone use bone cage for it. Seemed okay.

I think they used Voll's Protector chest for power charge generation

Actually tempted to try it myself. Gotta become an abyssal lich first heh

[supple imp]

wtf

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/0a15z10c (already changed amulet)

there we go

what can i do to get higher dps

any LA deadeye players

[coral finch]

pretty solid for LA huh

[supple imp]

iaside from melee skills its good i think

[coral finch]

energy shield from body is also useless

[supple imp]

i use falconers jacket

[coral finch]

otherwise very good, but 2 dead stats, and it's too expensive to replace so

[supple imp]

so its good for me

got this

[coral finch]

like a 40 div amulet wish i could relate haha

[supple imp]

hehe thank the warmonger i sold a week ago

cant seem to get evasion above 64 for sum reason

[coral finch]

i was wrong it's 60+ and these aren't even good ones, some sanctified without a skill slotted

[supple imp]

i got it for like 90

this is mine rn

the evasion is when tailwind is active

which is pretty much always so

[coral finch]

literal minimum of 40 div and these are the only 2 amulets with these stats, heavy sigh

i get 57% with tailwind

[regal zinc]

Good for hollow palm

[coral finch]

sure was til i realised you need perfect gear for palm to work let alone be comparable to LA

[regal zinc]

Not with nova projectiles. Unlimited zooms and not terribly expensive

[lusty ingot]

i just got giants blood and when i equip my 2nd mace my dmg get cut in like half why is that

[alpine basin]

What were you doing before? That’s pertinent information.

2h weapons are much slower too. Do you have attack speed rolls on it? Were you using a 1her before?

[west wharf]

u'd have to link ur weps

[viral sage]

what build currently good at hcssf? im trying to progress atleast to interlude..but i usually died to rare abyss that pop up in trio

[high lava]

ED/Contagion Lich into Hexblast or Impending Doom

Done it twice now without dying.

[formal geyser]

Melee is rough for abyss bc of the ground splat chaos damage puddles. You're probably going to do better with a caster.

I personally leveled (in sc) as witch with bone cage and just kinda walked through the campaign. It has really good base damage, immobilizes enemies as they rush at you, and later you can get astral projection to cast it anywhere not just at your character.

You can pick up defensive nodes on the tree without feeling gimped early with the base damage of bone cage.

[viral sage]

im trying to get ideas from watching recent boss kill race event

https://youtu.be/EOmyj2Lwbgc?si=Iyis_-8woKdVsWTP&t=4561

what was lightspeedcake sorc skill rotation to get huge dmg at the boss?

[warm tulip]

Guys does 'Inhibitor support' give you 4% more damage PER infusion or only PER TYPE? if i have 5/5/5 fire cold light do i get 60% more damage or only 12%?

[carmine flicker]

per type

[warm tulip]

that is actully so sad, ive been walking around with 15 infusions feeling like a chad

should learn to read

[carmine flicker]

it's still good
24% more damage if you have all charge types

(and all infusions)

well
still ok-ish
support gems in POE2 aren't all that good in terms of more damage without drawbacks

[warm tulip]

yeah I was using it for an infusion stacker, managed to get 15 infusions consistently but guess that idea is down the drain now

[royal totem]

what builds you guys suggest for my third char i made poison/bleed pf and LA looking for smth new rn

[carmine flicker]

do you want bossing or clear?

ehh, w/e, play tecrod(sacrifice of blood) blood mage

[royal totem]

kinda dont care i just want something new and fun

[carmine flicker]

tecrod bloodmage is real good, infinite regen, like 15k total pool, tons of damage

can also go my abissal lich build I guess, but it's main thing is "lol not dying", mainly

[royal totem]

and you life stack with it?

[carmine flicker]

life+ES

then you scale life costs like crazy

get tons of damage from that with Atalui's Bloodletting

and get tons of regen with said sacrifice of blood and some(a lot of) life regeneration rate and zealot's oath(so it regained ES too)

you spend 3k, regen 9k from that and so it goes

if you spend like 9k per second you will stack to 27k life regen that overflow into ES regen

[tulip fog]

is there any passives you can get that helps defend against damage over time? i am practically immortal against anything other than damage over time so it would be great if i could increase my defenses against that as well

[fiery briar]

Why is chaos damage used so heavily by endgame builds?

[west wharf]

cus palm of dreamer op

[fiery briar]

Wait why? The explosion?

[west wharf]

ye

[fiery briar]

Does it trigger itself?

[west wharf]

if it kills a mob ye

it's just the chaos boom shrine u get in maps sometimes

except permanent

the one that gives u a super clean satisfying clear

with low particles

[fiery briar]

Can you scale the explosion damage?

[west wharf]

not directly no

[fiery briar]

Or is it not sourced from you?

[west wharf]

it is not you dealing the damage

you can increase it via

increased dmg taken or -chaos res on the mobs

but not via %inc dmg

[fiery briar]

So why would it kill then?

Unless you kill a fat dude 🤣

[west wharf]

presumably ur dmging multiple monsters in a pack

[fiery briar]

Yeah

[west wharf]

they all boom

u kill 2 and that's 50% max life dmg = prolly booms some mroe = booms some more etc

it always gives a rly clean pack kill

iirc it's also just really good for performance

since it's a really clean low particle boom and destroys the corpses

[fiery briar]

Ah damn lmao

So why do people build chaos if they aren’t getting a lot of %increased?

[west wharf]

i mean varies per build but noone really scales damage typing rn

like u don't go on a molten blast build and scale fire dmg%

[fiery briar]

Yeah just weapon dmg?

[west wharf]

u do generic dmg% mods

[fiery briar]

Yeah

[west wharf]

weapon dmg, attack dmg, proj dmg etc

and pen via rakiata

so most builds don't really care what dmg type they do atm

[fiery briar]

That’s the one that inverts res?

[west wharf]

yea

[fiery briar]

What does invert do?

Like put it to negative?

[west wharf]

75 fire res = -75 fire res

ye

[fiery briar]

BRUH

🤣

What’s the default res on mobs?

[west wharf]

since it works on all ele resists noone really cares so much about if they deal fire cold or lightning dmg anymore

outside of ailments

they just click whatever has the highest flat value cus u have rakiata etc anyway

[west wharf]

0

poe2 monsters don't have default resists

some monster types have inherent res against certain types

generally pinnacle bosses etc have natural resists

bosses in general have res's

u don't really go rakiata for map clear

it doesn't do much for ur map clear outside of amping ur dmg in +monster res% mods

it's moreso for bossing

and having rainbow invert = don't need to care abt dmg typing can just go triple flat rings/gloves etc

palm of dreamer is pretty much solely for clearing

outside of the booms, stuff like sacred flame does the same thing as palm of dreamer but gives higher gain as dmg% values

while being 100x cheaper

[fiery briar]

Ahhh got it

Why flat on gear vs %inc?

[west wharf]

for attack builds?

cus %inc sucks ass

attack builds almost all do mixed dmg (besides some pure phys warrior builds)

getting %fire or %lightning or %cold are all neutered value because they don't apply to all ur dmg

and most builds alrdy get a ton of %inc dmg on tree

[fiery briar]

%as extra counts flat right?

[west wharf]

yes flat contributes to ur base dmg

[fiery briar]

Just not local base before local %increases to phys right?

[west wharf]

yes u calculate the "flat" of ur weapon from the actual damage lines at the top rather than from the affixes

[fiery briar]

I mean flat on affixes contribute to weapon flat for phys right?

Affixes on weapon I mean

And so does %inc phys on the weapon?

[neon gyro]

I never seen any cluster of mob survive the dreamer palm explosion tbh. It is like super herald.

not only it clean mob, but also clean your pc cache too.

[fiery briar]

🤣

[neon gyro]

ever died because of shitty corpse explosion from leftover? get dreamer and forgot about that trash forever

[latent dawn]

Skill Lv 40 is the hard cap, right?

I wish there was a +1 for each element... right now the tree has +1 chaos skills and +1 cold skills... where's the fire and lightning 🙁

[willow sonnet]

https://pobb.in/u/shama_yt_hunt%232400/ULXbOjEb22uh

[cedar aspen]

Can stacking damage work from just nodes on the tree itself?

For example the Pure Chaos node gives 11% EXTRA chaos damage, whilst the small passives leading up to it give a total of 44% INCREASED chaos damage.

So does that mean that attacks that I then do, deal 11% extra chaos + 44% of that 11% extra chaos?

[tough crow]

Anybody know offhand if Gravebind works with heralds currently

[formal geyser]

Best way to see this is gonna be path of building desktop app and look at the calculations screen

[latent dawn]

or this doodle I got from another discord

so yes, the 11% gain as extra chaos gets modified by increases to chaos damage

[tough crow]

For anyone Else looking this up It does not work as worded.

[analog topaz]

how do i solve my mana issue on hollow palm during boss fights without mana on kill?

tried stacking like 200% mana regen and its not enough

[proud sable]

does hammer of the gods chronomancer still work?

[proud sorrel]

if you had Fixation of Yix and Necromantic Talisman, would each minion have this aura or would it be more like a shared aura but the area is spread amongst them?

[maiden parcel]

yo I want to include lightning spear in twister build with whriling slash. anyone knows a good support gem combo?

[static plinth]

Every minion has the aura but it doesnt stack

[cedar aspen]

Saving this, thanks!

[pale void]

Anyone built a LA amazon?

[warped dune]

Mana leech on rings and walker of the winds keystone.I have it on both rings to make it feel comfy, one ring didn't feel like enough

[analog topaz]

already figured it out but thank you. i took mana regen off my rings

mana leech was enough on its own

[warped dune]

Some even go for the efficient casting node, depending on how high you push the skill ranks

[analog topaz]

im not using flurry im using storm wave. i have max skill level storm wave. but my attack speed is lower tham flurry users so mana isnt as much of an issue

i just use flurry for 4 hits to activate the bell

actually mb i forgot +4 amulets exist so im 1 short of max skill level

[warped dune]

Yeah same, but you can get to or close to 29 skill rank, eats a lot of mana. I used it for a while, but then moved away from it again

[tropic cove]

does loyalty support mitigate 10% of damage even if the minion has very low life?

[analog topaz]

what do we think is better defenses?
option 1. 75% chance to evade with 75% deflection and 3800 es
option 2. 67% chance to evade with 40% deflection and 6000 es

deciding between evasion and es helmet on hollow palm

[formal geyser]

Plug it into pob and see what you effective hp is

[river dew]

how does Default Attack Damage work? Is that related to like your Mace Strike? How do you scale it

[alpine basin]

It’s based on your weapon damage, mainly. You can scale whatever skill uses it, like you would any other damage skill, but outside of equipping a weapon with higher damage, you can’t increase it via supports or the like.

[uncut bay]

don't pay attention to ehp on poe2ninja or pob, its missleading

I think 6k ES is better, if your ES recharge and faster start of recharge are good

without those 6k ES won't be nearly as good, so then just take 3800 ES and ghost dance

[analog topaz]

i got alot of deflection / damage on other slots my chest is the only slot thats 100% res suffixes so es recharge isnt an option

im hollow palm amazon but decided to do evasion helm + body instead of ev helm

[uncut bay]

wait younare amazon

then evasion helmet, gloves and boots

ES only on the chest

its a broken setup

[analog topaz]

why is the decision different tho. i checked my dps and my dps is better with es helmet i reach 100% crit. im not doing tempest flurry for movement

im storm wave

[uncut bay]

evasion chest makes no sense on amazon imo

[analog topaz]

thats the reason i only asked about my defenses as my dps is clearly better with es helm

i have es chest

[uncut bay]

because you double evasion on helmet gloves boots

and if all of your evasion comes from the chest its very easy to scale it

[analog topaz]

again i dont have an evasion chest

i wouldnt have 6200 es if i wasnt using a vile rob

[uncut bay]

so you are decidimg ES helmet vs evasion helmet?

evasion helmet of course

to make your ghost dance better

[analog topaz]

alright next and last question. i can spec out of subterfuge mask and that gets me enough points now to do patient barrier without an allocation. What is the patient barrier equivilent for evasion allocations.

AKA whats the best passive for the most evasion gained

this is the best one i know of, not sure if theres something better

[uncut bay]

there is nothing better

100% increased evasion if not hit recently is cringe

so 60% is as good as it gets

frenzy charge based evasion passives also great

[keen glade]

trying out corpsewade. decompose is not compatible with spears?

[worldly current]

Hey guys, I was wondering if it's possible to make a melee poison/plague themed build? I like the green poison effects but I prefer melee as a playstyle, and just generally am not a big fan of bows. I don't expect the build to be meta or anything but just something that's usable and fun

I've been looking on youtube and I've basically found nothing

[formal geyser]

Closest you'll get the herald of plague + herald of blood interaction I think. Check that one out

That's not a thing in pow2

Poe*

[solid spire]

oh fk
wrong chat

[past crystal]

and is it even possible to make a poisonous ranger?

there's not even one build guide

and when I'm trying to pick passives the character always missing something to play it comfortable

[sharp thorn]

Just a poison in general or do you have a poison skill in mind?

At the very least you can do poisonburst arrow, gas arrow or gas grenade.

You can't do much in campaign, but there are a lot of options once you are in the endgame.

[past crystal]

poison in general, I'm in endgame

109 points to spare

I had every possible poison skill in tree but I'm not quite sure how to stack it properly

also hard to build defence on ranger

[sharp thorn]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/dreamcore-gas-grenade-pathfinder
I played this build for a while. It is crossbow gas grenade build with good defenses.

It uses plaguefingers to utilise elemental crossbows (like lightning can shock and fire is overall a lot of damage).

You can run simulacrum easily.

[past crystal]

seems interesting

thanks

but you see, there's crossbow preferred over bow

so it proving my point that typical ranger build is lacking few things

[sharp thorn]

Well, it's a ranger build. I have no idea what is a "typical ranger".

And do remember that build guides are limited to what people think is the best. There are a bunch of suboptimal builds.

[past crystal]

well, it is, I mean there's a lot ranger builds based on crossbows, not bows

[spark totem]

any hollow palm players

[median wharf]

anyone use elemental invocation? i dont rly understand it

ive tried socketing comet and fire storm, its stuck at 100% and wont use the skill

[static torrent]

Invocations have to be manually cast to activate the socketed skills

[median wharf]

ahh rekt, ty

[elder mural]

Abyss Amanamu: Sacrifice of Flesh work with ci ? the effect 20% life prevented from hits ?

[sharp thorn]

No. CI means you cannot interact with your life no matter what.

[kindred sundial]

Does anyone know if the Bone Chains notable counts "physical damage from spells" or does it only work with spells that have the physical tag?

[woeful schooner]

Anyone got a good leveling build for blood mage?

[ashen copper]

wait can someone correct me if im wrong

im using defy 2 with constricting command

that has a 5 less enemies to be surrounded

meaning im always surrounded

defy 2 reads that while im surrounded i can cast even with insufficient mana

meaning it essentialy costs 0 mana

is my understanding correct?

[cedar aspen]

Are ailments affected by the Avatar of Fire conversion? Or for any conversion for that matter

Say for instance you have avatar of fire and Blackflame covenant. Is the chaos damage dealt by ignite from Blackflame then converted to 75% fire damage by Avatar of Fire?

[formal geyser]

Plug in bone cage, walk through enemies, cast bone cage, win.

[static plinth]

Sort of
It will still cost mana, meaning youll be permanently out of mana and need to recover mana to use anything without Defy 2 socketed

[atomic halo]

yes

whatever damage you ultimately do is what determines what kinds of ailments you will inflict

and no, aof doesnt convert the damage from the ailment back to fire

because conversion is a specific mechanic that applies to flat damage

and that was many steps ago in the damage calc

and will not apply a second time

[atomic halo]

oh so i guess the answer is no because you didnt mean what i thought you meant

the damage dealt by ailments will not be converted because damage over time cannot be converted

[kindred sundial]

Answering my own question: yes, it counts physical damage from spells. So you can use an elemental spell, atalui's, and build pin.

[atomic halo]

i meant the hit that inflicts the ailment will, which will indirectly affect the ailment

[cedar aspen]

So if the damage over time of my ignite is converted thanks to either Blackflame covenant or Blackflame Unique ring, which converts fire damage to chaos damage during the ignite ailement, because that’s a DOT, it SHOULDNT, be affected by AoF?

[atomic halo]

remember that conversion is a specific mechanic

so blackflame doesnt convert the dot at all

it just makes them take a different type of damage

which is not the same thing as conversion

[cedar aspen]

Oh ok. I see. In that case then, that Dot damage which is now chaos, can be scaled with increase chaos damage nodes on the tree?

[atomic halo]

Ignite inflicted with Fire Spells deals Chaos Damage instead of Fire Damage

wording is very specific

[atomic halo]

well not directly

inc chaos damage will increase the hit damage (because it's converted to chaos)

and that will indirectly increase the ignite from said chaos damage

[cedar aspen]

Oh ok I see

[placid frost]

Lightning Arrow builds - is it ok to get piercing passives or is it not optimal? (Pierce the heart and other piercing support nodes)

[light mesa]

Can i cause bleeding with ataluis bloodletting?

[alpine basin]

You can cause bleeding with a skill supported by atalui’s. It just affects damage and life costs.

[elder mural]

heavy buffer + CI still 1 shot u or fixed ?

[static plinth]

Still one shot, there's nothing to fix

Intended behavior

[carmine flicker]

well, MoM kinda "fix" it

to some definition

[woeful steppe]

Has anyone made a mana stacking ele caster lich? Taking advantage of the unholy might ascendancy nodes

[uncut bay]

yeah I did that with that whispering staff

it sucked, don't do it

[formal geyser]

I put one together for living lightning. I haven't finished leveling it yet, but it's been... Interesting.

[hard olive]

Hey guys, I'm having doubts my Cast on Critical is working correctly. I have it socketed with Arc and then 2 support gems to build energy faster, and retain energy after use. I have it activated and am running about watching the % build up in the top left. It hits 100% and ticks over to 0%... but no Arc. I have full mana when this happens, what is going on? Any ideas?

[woeful steppe]

bruh

[woeful steppe]

wdym

two responses and neither of them sound promising

im sad

im a big fan of the lich ascendancy, its been my most played character for two leagues, still enjoying it a lot

thought i'd try the unholy might shenanigans but i guess not

[formal geyser]

Lich is mostly played with contagion essence drain.

Living Lightning is interesting in that it's not fantastic. I haven't reached end game with it yet, so hard to tell if it's any good. It's been a little rough in the campaign bc the minions spawned aren't targetable by enemies, so they rush you.

I've also seen someone use unearth on Lich that's running contagion / essence drain, but put Brutus Brain on the unearth minions. Means they can't deal damage, but they can't take damage. They can still apply your contagion though, so they're useful for not having to press that a lot.

[honest hollow]

unholy might's downside of mana cost makes it almost only usable for minion builds

you can definitely play an elemental build on lich though

tbh lich's elemental build might just be better than stormweaver's equivalent

the 30% more dmg for 5% of ES node is so strong

[woeful steppe]

oooh yes i saw someone on poeninha using unearth, heres a question, since i dont play minions like at all, could the little scorpions deal some damage too? idk how important +lvl of spells is for minions so just asking, and if i then use minion pact on my essence drain, would i get the damage boost? since the bone constructs are technically minions right?

[woeful steppe]

thats exactly what i was thinking too, which is why i wanted to try lich ele caster, cuz tbh sorceress isnt my jam anyways

[formal geyser]

Yeah, that's how that works. They can deal damage if you build into minion damage, but their damage isn't great even scaled. They're kind of just meat shield for other minions

They can be sac'd for more damage on essence drain and contagion, etc

[carmine flicker]

better abyssal lich in that case

[sullen glacier]

Does anyone have tips for improving my boss DPS? My map clear is fantastic, but bosses are a slog. POB Link: https://pobb.in/0vRXcOIU_Y5u

[west wharf]

ur glyph nail ring could def be improved on

2 arguably 3 dead mods (dunno if u need the mana leech)

[sullen glacier]

Should I switch to Gas Arrow? Any thoughts on using LA/LR just for bosses?

(and yeah, I need a better ring, just had that one from another character, needed the resists)

[grizzled geyser]

im struggling in red maps im squishy and my dmg is ok but not great. any help would be aweome https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/9e2f80ag

[formal geyser]

Take chain off essence drain. You're cutting the damage by a lot

[uncut bay]

makes no sense at all to use both gas arrow and lightning arrow

[cedar aspen]

With Incinerate, is there a way to either speed up how fast you reach the maximum stage, or increase the amount of fuel you use?

Not sure what the optimal gems are to use with it. I was thinking Ignite 3 and Burgeon 2 to start.

[uncut bay]

cast speed affects how fast you reach the last stage

[cedar aspen]

Thank you. So rapid casting is going to be useful

[uncut bay]

incinerate is very different from other builds

it depends. if you want to hit a group of monsters you tap incinerate once and run forward, so cast speed doesn't help

[cedar aspen]

So I am finding out. Didn’t realise it was based on mana spent. I was using blood magic so I had to switch that off.

[uncut bay]

if you are fighting a boss it will help

the main thing to know is that you need to scale ignite magnitude ,not flammability magnitude

with the blackflame ring you scale fire damage ,not chaos damage

and if you change the base crit chance it can make incinerate crit

[abstract saddle]

Are there any guides out there to making your own builds? There's not a whole lot around right now that I want to try so I want to make something of my own but I'm not really sure what is important or how much damage I need, how much ehp I need etc

[uncut bay]

I haven't seen any, I doubt there are

just make the existing builds and variations of them and you will learn

you need enough damage to oneshot at least blue monsters, ehp is irrelevant

how much life+ES you need depends on how fast you kill things and how much evasion you have

[cedar aspen]

Do you mean like using a website to theorycraft your own?
If that’s the case I use Maxroll to design and make a build I want to try in game

[cedar aspen]

Ok, gotcha. Ignite 3 was to combat the reduced flammability, but I have enough of that on the tree.

So with Blackflame Ring you deal chaos damage from the ignite damage but there’s no way to scale that unless you debuff enemies with the likes of curses or Withered?

[cedar aspen]

I did some testing this morning with the Blackflame Ring. Not sure how I feel about it to be honest. With my build I’m scaling fire damage anyways and it’s reducing my ignite duration by 50% to deal chaos damage, I just don’t see the difference, especially when I damage tested it.

If I’m using Blackflame Covenant though I want to be scaling both Fire and chaos damage too right?

[west wharf]

what do you guys think the best low delay one button screen clear attack is, nova explo shot? spiral volley? nova flash grenade? lightning spear?

[pine stream]

is frozen mandibles the best option for haste aura? is haste aura worth it? im playing warbringer

[graceful summit]

any sommoner builds running decent right now? Returning player

[formal geyser]

yes

spectres - frozen mandible for melee, or gelid/powered zealot for caster oriented

[west wharf]

if frozen mandible can't keep up is it doomed

are there any faster ones

[exotic compass]

faster than ants? bruh

its my own fault for running bones of ullr but i can barely keep up with them xd

[exotic compass]

im a bit late, but definitely try out any elemental build on lich, it will work great. here is my hcssf cold lich 🙂 https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abysshcssf/character/Droid-3945/Frostclan?i=1&search=sort%3Ddps

[uncut bay]

wither and despair help, the scaling comes from spell damage, skill levels, fire damage, ignitevand ailment magnitude, burnimg damage, some area of effect and some cast speed
like I said, increased chaos damage doesnt help you, only increased fire damage does
the difference is enormous, feel free to wear 2 blackflame rings if you want, but one is enough, it gives you much more damage than any other ring would because ignite magnitude, duration is not that important, you want to kill them in one second obviously and then conversion to chaos damage lets you ignore elemental resistances

[uncut bay]

right now lightning arrow, explosive shot, twister as it seems

[cedar aspen]

So maybe it’s my spell damage then because my fire damage should be good enough. Currently im not using Blackflame Rings because I’m using the Blackflame Keystone. My damage with incinerate is pretty bad, so I was concerned what I should do to improve it. I might have to get a wand.

[cedar aspen]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Mr BJSkinner-8808/character/Skinzerai

[hasty prism]

is there any way to reduce magma barrier's imbuement time? it doesn't look like duration does anything +-

same question for leap slam, i molasses leapfrog into stuff rn

[viral sage]

is the info from poe ninja correct? this build win 3rd place for Act 4 Boss Kill Race 3 https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/act4bosskillrace3ssf/character/BINBIN-7387/彬彬彬彬?i=5&search=class%3DMonk

[formal geyser]

You can't keep up with it. Good luck

[uncut bay]

I measure the ascendancy strength in % more damage, my lich had at least 80%, your smith has zero

for this particular build that is. makes no sense to use smith

without a blackflame ring you lose out on 50% ignite magnitude, very bad

no fireflower amulet, bad

scepter with a shield instead of +5 wand with +3 focus, very bad

[cedar aspen]

I understand it’s far fetched.

I wanted to see if Blackflame Covenant Keystone would work with Fire Spell on Hit. It does, so I wondered if it would be better to scale that with more fire nodes on the tree or with chaos nodes. For Incinerate I just wanted to see how it would fit in with the build. I like it, but if I can’t scale the damage further with what I have now I probably should drop it.

As for Blackflame Ring, I wanted to use it too since I’m igniting a lot. However, I did some damage testing using it against Beira with a level 4 flame wall, and the damage with and without Blackflame Ring was pretty much the same. Did I not test that right?

[uncut bay]

it's hard to test damage, 50% ignite magnitude is not a joke, it's very noticeable

without the ring but with the blackflame keystone you need increased chaos damage

you could try titan for all that because of the small passives, but generally if you want to play incinerate you need a witch or a sorceress

[cedar aspen]

Magnitude is good but Ignite Duration is also very noticeable.

I can try to do the testing again to see if anything like withering presence has an effect on the ignite damage.

[wraith palm]

Wither and despair are the way to go if using black flame ring for ignite dot for sure. I made a plague bearer ignite / poison infernalist using black flame ring

[cedar aspen]

Yeah I’m going to test it now, see how it goes.

If I had either wither or despair for the Keystone version, that would be beneficial if my fire spells on hit to cause more chaos damage too?

[wraith palm]

Yeah. I’ve been tinkering with a smith with the same idea too but just not having fun with melee haha. Might be my end league thing if I get the motivation for it. My idea was cast on ele ailment contagion with chaotic freeze for screen wide nonsense but not feeling good yet.

[cedar aspen]

With just a level 4 flame wall on Beira, I’m doing around 214-236 damage.

With the Blackflame ring on, it’s only doing 195-216. So it’s actually a little worse.

So let me see how it scales with Wither on

[cedar aspen]

That does sound good. Would ignite be the ailment of choice? Very easy to do with smith when you get the right fire nodes.

[wraith palm]

Yeah that’s the idea. Ignite for the meta buildup for contagion and fire spell (converted to chaos damage) for freeze with chaotic freeze

But I also like the idea of doedres curse stuff too haha. We’ll see

[cedar aspen]

Ok with Withering presence, I used Flame Wall at 20% withered, which by the end of the skill it had reached 45% withered. This in turn had my flame wall do 239-263

And that damage remains the same when I use avatar of fire too.
So that’s avatar of fire, flame wall at level 4 with Blackflame ring still allows the chaos damage to do damage via ignite

[cedar aspen]

Never played around with the chaotic freeze stuff, but the lineage supports converting to chaos damage would be sick to have

[wraith palm]

Contagion + chaotic freeze is slept on haha. Good proliferation potential with herald of ice

[cedar aspen]

Could Chaotic Freeze work if the chaos damage is being done overtime by ignite? Such as on Blackflame? My guess is no

[cedar aspen]

As cool as it was to see purple fireballs shooting out on hit and using incinerate, il use it for a dedicated mage build.

I am going to build around the black flame ring though, seems a lot more possible for my build.

Thank you for your feedback

[wraith palm]

Nope just hits, it describes that on the supp gem

[cedar aspen]

Ah ok sorry gotcha

[wraith palm]

It’s neat regardless haha. Works well with poison setups (bursting plague, armor break etc) once you work extra chaos damage in

[cedar aspen]

I’ve never played around with freeze or chill yet if I’m completely honest

[cedar aspen]

Also, if im using withered to improve the DOT of chaos damage from ignite, should I be using Withered support gems instead of Fire Pen 2?

[night pebble]

Is a min maxed quarterstaff always better than hollow palm for monk builds or could hollow palm be on the same level?

[formal geyser]

Hollow palm can scale pretty hard, but I think the fundamental difference is attack speed. Hollow palm can attack extremely quickly so you can use staggering palm + thundering strikes to fly across the map while throwing dozens of wind projectiles at everything.

Qstaff is gonna scale harder in damage.

That's my limited understanding anyway

[weary elbow]

i'm interested in using vilenta's propulsion (increases to cast speed also apply to projectile speed) for my powered zealots. will their projectiles move faster on minion cast speed or does the support gem activate on my own cast speed?

[solar forge]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/ru3j80qz
heres my blackflame covenant build
can yall check it out so i can figure out what im missing for max dps?

nvm this is outdated

[weary elbow]

is there any point in taking talent nodes "damage recouped as life" if i'm using the sacrosanctum mantle?

[brittle anvil]

yes you will recoup more, the mantle would be useless if you don't have that stat

[weary elbow]

did i go too far out of the way if i wanted to be a minion chronomancer?

was thinking of pulling some of the stuff out on the right to go more minion stuff, but i'm not really that strong yet anyway

[brittle anvil]

yeah probably

[weary elbow]

i kind of like the recoup as mana + damage taken from mana before life stuff, didn't go MoM though

[solar forge]

can i have some opinions on my build?
need some advice for making a screen clearing blackflame covenant build

[toxic storm]

can you make crit fissure work on a blood mage

[analog topaz]

so im doing storm wave hollow palm and my only complaint with the build is i cant hit enemies behind me. is there a way to fix this. the only thing i tried was cast on crit and the socketed spells didnt do enough dmg for clear

any ideas?

[opaque ermine]

Hey was going to play the bleed amazon build after not playing since december last year. i've read that amazon is just a worse deadeye and when I look at https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abyss?class=Amazon everyone plays only lightning arrow? Is the bleed build a lot worse?

[foggy plover]

can anyone reccomend a cold based build for hc ssf? im bored lol

[spark dew]

Hello, I have a quick question. Are weights for affixes different for each ring && amulet type? If so: is there somewhere a list of weight per jewellery type?

[tropic thicket]

here "https://poe2db.tw/us/Modifiers" under jewelery you can find rings and amulets, you click on it and you will see the stats for each modifier

you can also import you gear piece i believe and it will tell you want you can roll at what %

thats one way to learn how you can make something roll 100%

[tropic thicket]

comet socketed with spell echo and cascade did not work our? for monk you can take the energy%boost from ascendancy which can help with casting and with storm wave it procs a lot with additional fissure branches support

with a great chest piece you might be able to get up to 230spirit and use cast on crit and cast on elemental ailment, both using comet and still have room for herald of thunder with a cold set-up

[oblique sluice]

hello. can i use a sceptre that's in the main hand in weapon set I, as an offhand in weapon set II?

[uncut bay]

first of all remove all small passives that don't give you access to notables, second of all don't use empowering remnants

get as much ES and + to skills as you can on your items

[solar forge]

did some tweaking to my passives and now i have over 1k ES

and managed to buff up my fireball damage

my main problem is that my current staff is just too good
i cant find anything thats even remotely better on the market
cuz i sure as hell am not gonna craft a new one with how bad my luck is

[spark dew]

It is unclear for me how can you see probability of specific ring type there

[jade hull]

You can't
But rings can all roll the same affixes.
Wands can't, but you also can't see the difference on this website, have to use the trade site to check.

[spark dew]

But weights for affixes are the same for each ring?

I had an impression, that some types like to get some affixes more frequently

[coarse kettle]

is there a good rarity/aura bot build guide? its my first time making a character like that

[carmine flicker]

there is aurabot in POE2?
auras barely exist

[coarse kettle]

what about a rarity bot then

[uncut bay]

a ritualist with a lot of rarity, blasphemy, the gloves that make your rarity count for all the monsters killed around you

don't do the build to farm more than with a regular build, you won't, do it if you like the build

[echo crag]

Would a melee witchhunter be pretty fun or is it something silly i shouldn't chase

[exotic compass]

How many normal rarity pearl rings do you have on hand 😅

I'm hitting the upper end of my potential on a cold lich and it's a fucking blast, can finally just run around spamming frostbolt while having 12k+ ES

some waystones I run on my minion character still, like Marked For Death or using skills = 3% less skill speed

[loud cave]

Is anyone here familiar with hollow palm monk infinite chain herald with armor break to inspect me

[cedar aspen]

Suggestions for support gems to use with Fireball?

I’m using it with Living bomb on FireSpell on Hit. Which means I have a choice of 3 support gems to make it viable. So far I have Scions temper with boundless energy2.

[spring ferry]

anyone using mantra of destruction?
did mantra of destruction gettin benefit from delibration & profanity 2 support gems?

[reef hedge]

Would windowhail 293% with +2 arrow socket be better then a WH with 250% and +4 Add arrow ?

[fervent ember]

do you play nova?

[reef hedge]

noope playing Amazon eva stacker

1.8m with

1,36

i guess it would make a biff dirrent on Lrod tho, since i could stack it alot faster

[fervent ember]

i meant nova support gem. because with it the additional arrows wouldn't matter that much

[reef hedge]

nope not using it 🙂

[reef hedge]

https://pobb.in/4MKitGfm9K8p

[fervent ember]

if your dps is high enough, consider trying it out. makes mapping so much smoother. also can swap it for bosses. also would make ur 293% WH worth it. Do you own both bows? Then just try both 🙂

[reef hedge]

thanks for the reply's and appreciate the help 🙂

[cyan ridge]

Hi guys, im thinking about make a good heist build but i have zero clue about builds for heist.
Tought start with a poisonous concoction / explosive Concoction build and farm some curr for XY build.
Can someone give me ideas?

[cedar aspen]

Does projectile acceleration3 mean that it’s not only getting 40% faster projectiles but also 40% increased damage?

[wraith palm]

Nope, just allows sources of projectile speed to effectively double dip damage with the feathered fletching node

[manic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeBHfyN3E_Q

[woven depot]

this ain’t the place for self promotion

[summer sun]

help me understand something since im not running a criticil setup, does defy II is helping with rolling with these values??

So on average the higher one is rolling ?

is it really worth using defy II or is better getting a support that scales the damage?

[west wharf]

you don’t roll either the minimum or maximum

that’s the range of your possible rolls

pretend it’s a dice, 6 sides 1-6

you can roll any of those numbers, defy ii gives you two rolls, and you use the higher roll

so if you roll a 2 and a 4, it uses the 4

how much damage it gives you depends how tight your damage range is

if your damage range is 1000-1000 for example, you can only roll 1000 anyway so rolling twice does nothing, aka 0% damage increase

if your damage range is 0-1000, your average roll would be 500

with 2 rolls, your average roll would be 666.66666

which is a 33.3333% increase over 500

so at minimum, defy 2 gives 0 dmg

at maximum it gives 33.333%

your build will fall somewhere in the middle, depending on how tight your damage range is

the formula is avg multiplier = (2a+4b)/(3a+3b), a being the bottom of your range and b being the top

so you can plug 2241 and 9857 in to see what you have

typically for most builds defy 2 is worse than a standard damage support, so you only use it if you want the ignore-mana aspect of it

for lightning heavy builds it’s generally pretty comparable to a standard damage support, since lighting has very large dmg range

[summer sun]

its for galvanic, so its should be pretty good ?

[west wharf]

calculate via the formula

but generally speaking yes

[summer sun]

okay, ill try defy a for a while then and see how it goes

@west wharf tysm c: the info was pretty solid :DD!

i should start learning these things

[uncut bay]

legendary, great build man, well done

I watched the shark event

[real zinc]

HMM what is if we take nightly tenets and also winter owl that shoudl give you an insane amount of evasion

without actually investing into evasion nodes

we can get around 900 intelligence (you cna get mroe but it has tobe functional still

thats 450 + 270 =720% more evasion

[alpine basin]

Aye! The legend

[ocean tartan]

which charm should I get?

[snow trout]

Legend

[restive pulsar]

Does anyone know if i get the same damage with those affixes in gems?
A) Notable Passive Skills in Radius also grant Gain 3% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage
B) Notable Passive Skills in Radius also grant Gain 3% of Damage as Extra Chaos Damage
C) Notable Passive Skills in Radius also grant Gain 3% of Damage as Extra Cold Damage
D) Notable Passive Skills in Radius also grant Gain 3% of Damage as Extra Fire Damage

[jade hull]

Probably not since your % increase of any of those type of damage also increase the added damage from those affixes

[restive pulsar]

but it's extra.. i mean i do 100 lightning damage, it's 3 extra damage of fire chaos cold. that 3 damage is influeced by something?

[jade hull]

yes, If you hav 100% increase ligtning damage on your gear for example :
Your base damage is 100 lightning, with +3% lightning you are at 103 ligthning => 206 total damage with your 100% increase lightning damage
For fire for example, and assuming 0% increase fire on gear, you do 100 lightning and 3 fire => 203 total damage with your 100% increase lightning damage. The fire added is not multiplied

order of operation explained here :
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage

[restive pulsar]

but i don't have any increased damage of anything on my gear

[jade hull]

and on your tree ?

[restive pulsar]

only have attacks do this

i don't see any

everything is more attack damage

and crit

[jade hull]

If you don't have anything, then it's the same between those 4

[restive pulsar]

thx!

[viscid sail]

im confused.. this says melee skills have +1 totem.. does that mean this wont give +1 to mortor canon if i go for it?

cause im trying to see if i switch up my skill tree to try to get as many mortor canons up lol

[west wharf]

won't do anything to mortar

[atomic halo]

mortar doesnt sound like melee

[west wharf]

if i drop a mortar on xesht's forehead it should count as melee

big bonk dmg

[toxic nest]

How long to build the Rambo Wizard from scratch? Obviously depends on playtime and rng.

[worldly sable]

whats more important for a deadeye la on its bow, phys or lightning damage ?

[elfin echo]

I'm on hardcore using blood mage spark with bloodletting and tecord also with cast on crit comet, I am working on a wand craft should I get +5 lightning damage or +4 all spells? My friend says go all spells since comet does my damage? but I don't know

[viscid sail]

wait so then what are the spots to aim for for mortor canon? i saw someone drop like 4 of them and im like.... 🤔 "i can only drop 2... how to drop 4 mortor cannons?"

would i have to go tactician for that?

[fallow marlin]

My guide says i should add fast forward to my time of need and that it's a free link. What does that mean? free link?

[viscid sail]

or can i do that as witchhunter still

[fallow marlin]

I also don't see fast forward as a crafting option

[viscid sail]

are you looking at all skills and not just "recommend"?@fallow marlin

[fallow marlin]

Yes

[viscid sail]

🤔 i think its in the red gems .. but i dont know if its like specific to a class cause ive used it for sure in defferent classes

[fallow marlin]

Oh I see the gem was renamed to compressed duration. The old name must be a leftover from previous patches. The skill tree had the correct gem

[viscid sail]

ah ok ok.

[midnight geode]

if I run both CoC and CoA (cast on ailment) and use the same spell on both, is it gonna proc basically twice as often, or does one cancel the other?

[neon gyro]

they are 2 separated instances so nothing cancel out even if it's the same spells. Unless the spell is ember fusillade then I'm not sure.

[uncut bay]

with 100% crit chance and you applying 2 ailments a lot I would say you cast the spell 50% more often once you ad d cast on ailment

this was my feeling

[subtle gust]

Lvl 80 Deadeye here, I'm not following a build guide and I'm trying to get my survivability up. I'm currently only running T8-T10 maps due to my low survivability. Only sitting at 1.6k life with 0 es. Evasion rating is at a embarrassing 22%. All res' are maxed out except chaos sitting at 40%. I know the answer is probably "get more max life" but that's easier said than done. I don't really struggle with surviving mobs and stuff, it's usually just a sudden one shot by something I couldn't even see coming. With all that said, anybody have any advice for me? (Cross posted in POE2 general server)

[smoky zodiac]

Anyone have any advice for solving mana cost while using Mind Over Matter on a Lich?

[smoky zodiac]

Mana on kill and mana recoup both don't really help me stay topped up during bosses

[noble helm]

Mana regen overall

You are quite tremendously lacking it

This low pas possible on 0.1 when the unuque flask just refilled mana in full per click

Now you need actual mana regen (surge and alike)

[smoky zodiac]

Any tips on getting a lot more of it (looks like I'm going to need a ton to overcome ~400 mana per second)?

Arcane surge would be nice, but getting enough of it on Lich seems to be a tricky endeavour, and I'm not sure it would really help much with overcoming costs since it would also increase my cast speed.

[noble helm]

Arcane surge gloves

[smoky zodiac]

I could spend a ton of passive points on regen but it would nuke my DPS

[noble helm]

Also a question if you are running crit?

Share your poe ninja or just pob, will be able to see it better a bit

[formal geyser]

Are you using archmage?

[smoky zodiac]

arcane surge gloves?

[noble helm]

Rare gloves with arcane surge mod, 2 os so the sockets would be arcane surge effectiveness + something else

[smoky zodiac]

I'm not, no, but I am leveraging Arcane Intensity and Blackened Heart (Necromantic Conduit is a big reason I'm even having mana issues)

[cinder torrent]

Hi I'm having a rather difficult time leveling a lighting stormweaver. I'm in Act 3 and killing rares is an ordeal. Where could I go to ask for a fix?

Ah, there's a church. I'll move there.

[smoky zodiac]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/rv6wp0aw this help?

Bear in mind that I'm running pure despair on Standard and PoB doesn't have support for calculating Doedres.

[noble helm]

Wdym "on Standard"?

[smoky zodiac]

I don't even think I have access to that mod on standard, unfortunately. I also am not sure it would solve my problem due to cast speed scaling with arcane surge, nor am I running crit

[noble helm]

Oh

[smoky zodiac]

Not league

[noble helm]

Rip help then from me

I did 0.1 and 0.3

Never played 0.2 which is your actual

[smoky zodiac]

Sort of

I'm just missing abyss stuff

But like I say, I'm not sure arcane surge would really help me in the end due to cast speed scaling

cast speed on curses absolutely annihilates the mana cost

I could possibly convert some of the mana costs to life, but I'm not sure how I'd get the life regen.

[noble helm]

Yeah, you kinda lack thimgs from 0.3

[smoky zodiac]

Well, I suppose I'll get them when 0.4 drops either way

[cedar aspen]

Which ones going to give me more life? This, or 1% max life per second when ignited (I’m ignited most of the time because of my build)

[noble helm]

If they keep the league and post nerfs

You won't be getting exact 0.3 unless you play actual league

[remote spruce]

has anyone tried making a fire spell on hit smith of kitava?

[patent shell]

the new nebulis is looking rly rly strong onf righteous fire

450 % inc ele dm per nebulis ? if im not wrong ?

[keen glade]

im playing infernal legion rhoa and im trying to abuse upwelling. is there a way to make my mana not full? like cap it ala mana reservation in poe 1?

[fair fiber]

If im at lets say 30k armor, giving me 90% mitigation (accourding to char sheet) dos furter boosting armor, to lets say 50k do anything?

[west wharf]

yes because 30k isn't 90%

depends on size of hit

for example if you're taking a 5k hit

30k is only 33% reduction, not 90%

[fair fiber]

Thanks

so the char sheet is basically lying when it says 90% then?

[jade hull]

Yes. It can't really return a table 😕

[fair fiber]

true, it should at least spesify where its calculates 90% from

newer players will never even think about asking this question

[jade hull]

True but you find out pretty fast when you're looking for infos.
And it will only matter for the players who care enough to minmax a bit and looking for these infos.
Poe is a knowledge game 😊

[fair fiber]

this is true

to be fair, it does spesify it when diving into the in game numbers, its not immidiatly obvious tho 😛

[median wharf]

has any tried if 110% socket effect as boots belt would push the movement speed rune up to 6?

[tired hornet]

Does blackflame covenant convert Extra Fire Damage too or is it added on top after the conversion?

[plain delta]

it always rounds down. you will need 120% increased effect

[echo crag]

Any good/unique witchhunter builds out there i can look at?

[fresh mica]

wwhats the strongest builda atm

[small anvil]

Something using atalui or rakiata

[surreal gull]

Building a ED lich level 94... Upgrades are expensive how do I know if something is going to be worth it before I buy.

The only way I can think of is path of building but manually adding in different items is really slow.

Are there any rules of thumb etc? I can see to find jewel placement information on Poe ninja from the builds I'm looking at either

[uncut bay]

if you ignore movement speed then atalui spark with comet on crit maybe

bloodmage, but I am not sure

if you include movement speed then amazon lightning arrow in my opinion

if you exclude tankiness then deadeye lightning arrow

[tacit vessel]

Oops wrong game

[uncut bay]

wrong game

[tacit vessel]

oops lol ty

[uncut bay]

learn to read

[tacit vessel]

i kno how to read

just trying to go too fast

[wraith palm]

you can copy and paste the item into custom item on pob, way easier

just copy and paste all the text from trade site

[pine stream]

Anyone out there using impale with shield wall/fortifying cry? Does impale work will with these skills?

[native burrow]

Is there anywhere i check for a comprehensive explanation of what effects damage over time and what doesn't, specifically Essence Drain.

Im trying to understand what stats increase only hit and what also increases the DoT

LE has a solid in-game help section that explains all that but i cant see anything like that in PoE

[surreal gull]

I tried that but path of building seems.to require different formatting?

[wraith palm]

not in my experience, just the whole thing like this

probably lose the buyout text tho haha

[radiant lake]

Since elemental weakness keeps going up. What can I use as a secondary for my woolie’s run and gun Witchhunter build level 71 I need the name of it so I know what I am looking for

[vague path]

someone wich can help me with the spark build?

[cedar aspen]

If I use Avatar of Fire and I’m fully breaking armour and using Molten Ones Gift, am I still doing 20% increased fire damage instead of the 20% physical damage to enemies?

Or would it be better if I wasn’t AoF when breaking enemies, because I would NEED to have Molten Ones Gift to be able to damage broken armoured enemies?

[wraith palm]

everythign is fire with avatar of fire, no matter what

[halcyon marten]

question if it hit multiple enemies with rage on hit with a skill like sheild wall would i gain rage for each enemy ? and does amour explosion give rage on hit?

[wraith palm]

once per use, and only melee hits

[uncut bay]

spell damage, shock magnitude if tbey are shocked, chaos damage taken, chaos damage, damage over time, non ailment/debuff damage over time, skill effect duration affect essence drain

gain extra damage and cast speed dont affect it

[uncut bay]

sure

[hallow vector]

is extractor mentis the only source of chaotic might?

[vague path]

rn i will leave for work, i will add you

[spiral zinc]

i need last ascendancy carrying

[willow moth]

Hello guys. I'm having trouble setting my pob for poe2 and I cant properly compare it right now. Can someone lend me light on which crossbow is better for a tactician mortar canon?

Gaining 29% extra dmg and chance on onslaught seems better to me but I'm not POE2 expert.

[uncut bay]

feel free

[cedar aspen]

How does Withering Touch work? I’m confused by the last sentence in the description.

[static torrent]

Basically, the higher the damage of the hit, the higher the chance to apply Withered with it, scaling off of the ailment threshold of the enemy. The lower the threshold and the higher the hit, the more chance to apply Withered.

[cedar aspen]

I see, so for best results it’s good to use on a skill that hits for higher damage?

[static torrent]

To apply Withered as quickly as possible, yes, either big hits, or many hits.

[cedar aspen]

Gotcha. I’m using Blackflame Unique ring so I’ve started applying athat to my skills and using withering presence, but didn’t realise it was based on the damage as chance to apply. Thanks!

[warm cedar]

deleted for wrong channel >.<'

[west wharf]

#1┃build-planning

[warm cedar]

ack, I was in there last, I dunno why it defaulted here

[west wharf]

poe2 calling you back for one last character

[warm cedar]

I never got to maps on my current one >.>

[lilac kestrel]

why do people stack flat ele for viper strike of the mamba?

[sharp thorn]

#1┃build-planning ask here

[covert cosmos]

Hello. Are there any videos/written guides on how to make your own build from scratch?

[river summit]

how does all damage from hits can poison actually work? does the poison just scale off of the base dmg of wwhatever procced the poison

[wraith palm]

Poison by default is only phys + chaos based. All damage means it’s also everything else, very powerful depending on what you do for it

For hits ofc

[raw falcon]

Is Combat Frenzy still the best way to stack up Frenzy on ranger? Without running any melee focused stuff

[uncut bay]

as far as I know yes

[uncut bay]

you gotta make several existing builds with or without some modifications

gotta make a spell casting build, an attacking build and a damage over time build

make a life stacking build, an ES stacking build and an evasion stacking build

and look at the different popular variations of that build. then you will have the basic ability to make builds probably

[tranquil wagon]

why i cant find this ????

[woven depot]

the combo might not exist on trade

You could do alternating currents or harmonic generator or power conduction instead of frazzled though, if you can live without the minuscule mana reg

(If you have 1000+ divs)👀

[white maple]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lightning-arrow-farmer-fubgun Guys im following this build and the bow has an explicit Adds lightning dmg to attacks but when i search for it there is absolutely none of it listed

okay wait nvm the build listed it wrong its adds lighting dmg not lightning dmg to attacks

[velvet tusk]

Need help deciding which crossbow to keep, which one is better?

[cedar aspen]

Not necessarily. The guides and such online are pretty much a showcase of their own build and experiences.

Your best bet is two options. You can either just pick a class and go for it, see what works and what doesn’t, and use the search bar within the passive tree to look up things you’re after. Or you can follow a guide that’s as close as possible to what you want from your experience, and then you can follow that guide as strict or as loose as you like to cater to your own experience.

[muted perch]

Wrong channel myb

[torn isle]

What is the best build for carrying 6 man in maps for xp and kills bosses ? Gonna start a new char , I want it to be somewhat fun . I have a molten blast ritualist which clears maps fast and is fun but I don’t like the single target damage method used , I hate requiem and don’t know how to scale it farther then 2 mil so I can carry full party . And I have a hallow palm monk which is good asf but slow speed wise and can be a pain with larger parties . I have 500+ div to work with I don’t wanna neccearily use it all. And I do already have a lot of good items etc, or a better huntress build. , currently ritualist on molten blast

[white maple]

Hey is there a way to see how much my dmg increases when I equip certain items without buying them. I wanna buy this bow from a player but dont know if it'll be a decrease or increase in dmg.

[torn isle]

Path of building

[tranquil lantern]

I have a question, what is the actual base mana of a character before any attributes or levels?

I'm building a spreadsheet for my character and using all of the given information I have this formula which should be correct:

(34+(intx2)+(6x(lvl-1)))

So at level 2 as a witch with 15int, I should have 70 mana. However, in game it shows 68. It's even worse when I use the base i found online of 40, which brings it up to 76 total mana you should have as a lvl 2 witch with 15 int. Does anyoine have any advice? Is my math bad? What am i missing? Gemini is no help, it just keeps telling me there's something wrong lmao

[tranquil lantern]

never mind, for anyone interested the reason i was getting the wrong number compared to the in game number is because the section of the formula (6x(lvl-1)) is actually (4x(lvl-1)). Not sure if this has been expressed by GGG but every source i found said it was 6

[gusty ingot]

Anyone have a good twister Amazon build

Or a twister build in general

[west wharf]

look up snoobae's

it's very expensive though

not a great choice on low-mid budget i think

[torn isle]

☹️

[radiant lake]

How do I able to get xp faster ? I am started the endgame maps but I am been on 436408523 for long time my goal is 472476370

[jade hull]

AI is always missing the context and just give the most documented answer.
The 6% is the mana regen you get when it's based on life when taking the 1st lich ascendency node.
This is likely the most frequent mana regen value talked about

[uncut bay]

for big parties like that atalui builds are obviously the best, likely spark with comet on crit, bloodmage, you deal millions of damage while being near immortal and can have around 100% movement speed too

[uncut bay]

I followed snoo, did a budget build, works great

[west wharf]

i was under the impression it's kinda squishy with meh singletarget without big investment

but haven't tried it myself

[uncut bay]

hm I invested around 50 div, I am much tankier than snoo himself, high attack speed, the boss dps is maybe between 500k and 1 mil which is enough

[west wharf]

so basically not good bossing dmg but enough to get by and still pretty good mapclear

out of curiosity r twister builds able to do the same generic singletarget solve that molten blasters use

just throwing on some last lament requiem setup offhand?

or is the tree too diff

[uncut bay]

keep in mind 500k dps is t3 xesht in 30 seconds, it's a pretty good dps, it's just there are broken builds that easily do 10 times more damage

I have no idea about molten blast

this is my build btw https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Creo11-3078/character/Creo_

[torn isle]

Idk how to even use Poe ninja it’s confusing. I know you suggested a build can you point me to it ? I do want something that crushes bosses and clears map fast with good movement speed or something

[uncut bay]

that's dozens of builds, you have to be more specific

if you just want boss damage and movement speed then deadeye lightning arrow

[torn isle]

I’ve done that a million times . Idk how to narrow it down tbh

[uncut bay]

then you are just asking to "recommend you a build"

answering this question usually is so futile

[torn isle]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Haydenhop-2156/character/Tykesion

can anyone help me improve my damage on molten blast and requiem?

[tranquil wagon]

guys im playing with deadeye ok how can i fix mana issue with this ? playing endgame

[exotic compass]

Defy 2 support gem

[exotic compass]

"This helmet makes you always surrounded, giving you MS, dmg and no mana cost with
Defy II"

If you follow a build guide on mobalytics you gotta read the whole thing top to bottom, they don't type this for nothing 😉

[tender pecan]

how tf are you supposed to keep staggering palm up perma? it feels like 70% of the time the hit doesnt stun and my herald of thunder "steals" my hits

[tranquil wagon]

bro its my bad cuz i was working on this and someone helped me with 2 or3 parts and i got confused since that moment lost my path

you r8

[uncut bay]

defy is like the last resort, it requires a big investment in skill points and sacrificing a rare helmet

I found, if you just add some % mana recovered on kill your mana is fine, with lightning arrow at least

[exotic compass]

He's already running the helm

[tranquil wagon]

weird fub build without this defy but i will use it

[tranquil wagon]

guys i will change this to defy but this one looks cool for 25% damage but i will try

[woven depot]

walker of the wilds + leech on ring/glove

[tranquil lantern]

I had a feeling, and I always double check my AI responses to be sure but i couldnt seem to find anything giving me the answer so i just got a couple more levels and was able to figure it out. Is thhere anywhere you know of that i can find these kind of numbers and this kind of info or is my best bet just to ask around?

[tender pecan]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Fl4keZ-5300/character/DorMonkgo
So this doesnt wanna update
but I was playing a homebrow Storm wave falling thunder monk, then thought maybe tempest flurry is better especially with staggering palm but thats very hard to keep up
and now I found out that i Love shattering palm and im confused on how to swap now
i kinda dont apply shock anymore so herald of thunder is kinda useless and only spamming shattering palm often doesnt proc the crystal unless i hit 5 enemies around them

[jade hull]

I always start with the official wiki on poe2wiki.net
But to be fair it's still missing quite a bit, so I like to test as well, same as you did.
Also I'm more of a lurker with experience, but yes asking around here is probably the best

[tender pecan]

anyone?

[midnight geode]

is there a way to make bleed freeze? I was thinking of maybe adding the 100% bleed chance gem on herald of ice, and if I can make the dmg from bleed cause freeze build up it'd cause a chain reaction

maybe "gain damage as extra cold" works on it?

[west wharf]

bleed isn't a hit

it can't freeze
also bleed is physical dmg, you can scale the size of bleed by scaling the size of the initial phys hit (or hit in general if bloodmage) but u can't add elemental dmg to the bleed itself

[west wharf]

y not just do the typical armour explosion hoi chain

if u wanna chain bleed, u do herald of blood bursting plague + herald of plague prolif

if u wanna chain hoi, u do armour explosion

[midnight geode]

I thought it'd be much cooler with bleed but unlucky

[west wharf]

u can do herald of blood + plague prolif

[midnight geode]

yeah I'll try that

[wraith palm]

you can chill / pseudo freeze with venopuncture + polc ring but idk how well that'll work.

works real good with icefang + polc with poisons

[shadow zephyr]

Can someone with in-depth knowledge of the system mechanics elaborate on this for me?

Shield Charge has the main skill tab damage, and then it has a second tab with "impact damage" that is significantly higher than the primary tab.

I have been assuming that the primary tab is the damage done to the creature you first hit with the shield, and that the impact damage is the AoE around that target (which maybe also includes the initial target?)

1: Is this accurate- if not, how should I expect it to be functioning?
2: Do both parts (assuming I'm right and it's two separate damage instances) proc all the supports, for example, impale?

[midnight geode]

can this combo work if i use the unique gem that makes chaos dmg cause freeze? Since poison is chaos dmg?

so that i dont have to use the polc ring

[grizzled geyser]

What’s more fun/cheaper ice or poison ranger?

[wraith palm]

No venopuncture and ice fang need hits, but there’s armor break, bursting plague, etc

[normal forum]

poison or ice what

[grizzled geyser]

deadeye ice shot or pathfinder spiral or poisonburst

[normal forum]

ice shot of penetration

[grizzled geyser]

poe 2 not 1

[normal forum]

o thought i disabled poe2 channels my bad

[polar ore]

If I equip gloves with "5% increased Quantity of Gold Dropped by Slain Enemies" as an implicit modifer, does it work the same as local knowledge in the atlas passive tree, i.e., I will get 5% less of all other loot?

[static torrent]

Asking in the PoE1 section would probably be best, to begin with https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[eager lichen]

ahh sory

[kindred dawn]

whats the bottom line mean? my normal damage is unlucky?

[neon gyro]

roll twice, take the lowest

[kindred dawn]

hmmm

doesnt really seem worth

[neon gyro]

depend on your build, if you have 100% crit chance then there is no downside

[kindred dawn]

if I had 100% crit chance, dont need lucky no?

its good if I have like 0 spread on normal damage and like 50% crit

[neon gyro]

lucky have nothing to do with crit chance, it roll the damage

[kindred dawn]

Its 2 different lucky rolls, once for normal damage and once for crit chance

10-100; hit 30 and 50

crit; hit yes and no,

so crit on 30 damage, vs no crit on 50 damage

unless I misunderstanding something

if it was 100% crit, it would be crit on 30 damage vs crit on 50 damage

[neon gyro]

if it a crit hit then the range in this case would be 20-200 no? then roll twice on that

[kindred dawn]

I think its 2 separate things that combine later

but either way if the asusmption is that you crit, then having unlucky roll is bad

its like 20-200, hit 200 and hit 100, you do 100

[neon gyro]

even if it the case, if you have 100% crit then there are no unlucky on normal case

[kindred dawn]

you still get that bad bottom line

[neon gyro]

ye

but if your build have trouble getting crit chance, then this may help getting close to that

[kindred dawn]

well thats the big question, is the crit chance worth the decrease in damage

low spread damage range = yes I think

[neon gyro]

with how easy to hit 100% crit this league i would say no

[graceful sierra]

its pretty easy to get 100% crit

no need for that

well not easy but also n ot hard

[analog patrol]

Why I don't have enough life when I spelling Spark skill. I play ritualist Spark build with kaom heart?

[swift flower]

Companion beasts providing haste aura still a thing? And if so, any advice on where to grind for them?

[west wharf]

yes, typically ppl farm frozen mandibles in interlude

You can look up a guide for it on yt

high spirit cost but very fast companion

although if you’re a late league build it won’t necessarily be able to keep up regardless

[swift flower]

Boring but ill grind it thanks

[west wharf]

it's rly easy

takes few mins

there's a reset checkpoint just seconds away from the spawn

[swift flower]

but when I use it mandibles dont respawn

what am i doing wrong?

ah was killing the rares and expecting them to respawn. That was not very intelligent

[tough swift]

any recommendation fpr a buildi can play as accoultist at the beginning (wan to transition into cursebot later)

[midnight geode]

So I wanna make a dual wielding build and was looking at the unique one handed maces and I have some questions, cuz I know nothing about dual wielding. How does each stat on each weapon affect each other? Let's say I use the mace that makes it so I always crit when I use an endurance charge, and use another regular mace for the flat dmg, are all my attacks still gonna crit just like they would if I was only using the unique mace? Or if I use the mace that causes all damage to contribute to freeze, will the damage from my other mace also contribute to freeze? If I have 1 mace with really high crit chance and another with very low, how is the crit chance calculated?

[analog patrol]

Hey. I'd like to build with Presence. Radiant Grief is a helmet that deals 100 Ignite damage. Does anyone have any ideas on how to scale this? Is it possible to scale this 100 damage?

[smoky zodiac]

If I am using both Choir of the Storm and Sunder my Enemies, which resistance modifier takes over? Does Choir of the Storm just negate the benefit of Sunder my Enemies entirely or does SmE overwrite Choir so that they still accept negative modifiers to monster resistance?

[sharp thorn]

I assume yes, it does negate. There are no order for those two.

[uncut bay]

haha you don't scale 100 ignite damage, you scale your gas arrow damage, you can look up fubgun's gas arrow guide

you need as many arrows on the bow as possible, flat damage everywhere, attack damage etc

[half mango]

im looking for a build that has an aoe ground effect that does damage over time, similar to poe1's coldsnap vortex
or least season's incinerate slash

like diablo 2 hurricane or diablo 3 sweeping wind/ sleet storm

something i can either center around me or place at a location for a dot effect

not something that targets a monster

[noble helm]

Good for you!

[high veldt]

Oh I'm on the poe 2 chan mb

[radiant girder]

Which build scales better? Slam beserker or Slam Bleed Slayer?

[dim patrol]

hello, is there a guide here for a witch that covers everything from level 1 to max level?

because the guides I found on YouTube are already for strong players, and as a beginner, I can’t really follow them

[torn isle]

Use mobalytics

[left matrix]

Hey guys,

I want to make a path finder with Giants Blood, use 2x big ass phys damage maces, and play poisons with poison magnitude scaling.

The idea would be to leverage heavy stun with perfect opportunity, to apply several high rolled poisons on the target at once.

Has anyone tried something like this before?

Presumably, leveraging Nebuloc from the stuns endurance as well, since giantsblood would let me use a nice rare mace with it, to double dip the guaranteed crits and base crit damage modifier

[west wharf]

not sure if i like the idea

heavy stun buildup is kinda bleh in my experience into uber pinnacles, takes a lil bit to actually get the heavy stun off

and you can already get lucky attacks via the standard defy 2 constricting command stuff without speccing into heavy stun

especially as a pf over titan, idk if the heavy stun stuff would really be reliable/worthwhile

i think you could for sure look to make dw 2h mace poison work though

with HOB bursting plague + pathfinder prolif for clear coverage

some somewhat adjacent builds you could reference for ideas -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ERRQZL_18

poison bleed resonating shield titan

i imagine your tree and gearing priorities would not be too different from this, minus block + the armour/es on left side in return for right-side poison stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqv2Ok4Gl0U

dw 2h caltrops autobomber

i imagine you could potentially run a setup like this for clearspeed, with HOB + pathfinder prolif like the resonating shield build replacing the HOI armour explosion chaining for coverage

or just something like poison stampede

and then i guess poison sunder or earthshatter for singletarget

[oblique crag]

hi, could someone recommend a build for warrior?

[left matrix]

Yeah was noticing a lot of synergy between bleed and poison for this

[left matrix]

Makes sense yeah

Do aftershocks shotgun?

In the sense of triggering them with an ability that hits a target, and that target also taking the hit from the shockwave

Trying to think of how I could get multiple stacks of poison applied fast with mace

[left matrix]

Its definitely a weird one lol,

Defy and surround tech costs way too much opportunity wise compared to a few investments into stun buildup with something like Ancestrally boosted Seismic Cry for instance

I could theoretically use something like walls to trigger aftershocks from a seismic cry to instant stun a boss, if enough damage.

[west wharf]

aftershock will hit same target as initial hit yes

[left matrix]

I want to use heavy stun because you can instantly break armor, and all the modifiers for physical damage against heavy stunned and fully armor broken targets might have a pre-mit increase to the physical hits for physical damage scaling to poison,

Though I do carry awareness that damage taken from the armor wont affect the poison damage at all.

[west wharf]

i gotta full on disagree on this one

heavy stun is more investment and also way less reliable on the targets you actually need it on (uber pinnacles, really juiced citadel bosses)

[left matrix]

Thats fantastic news,
Thats multi hit right there for ramping poisons quickly

[west wharf]

i dont consider defy 2 + constricting investment at all for a bot-side tree

[left matrix]

Its similar to freeze right?

[west wharf]

it's inherently the strongest nodes you can take already

[west wharf]

by the time heavy stun stacks on ubers

the boss is already dead

[left matrix]

Even with daze?

[west wharf]

yes, melee builds basically oneshot uber pinnacles

sorry cat on keyboard

i think if you absolutely want to go heavy stun I’d do titan

but by all means it doesn’t hurt to try from pf

if it doesn’t work out then you can still do the poison component

and just do constricting

I don’t follow on the investment part is all

[left matrix]

Oneshotting the boss is relative to damage delivery,
If the same physical damage that can oneshot a boss was aimed at stunning it, it absolutely should be able to stun it, otherwise there is something dramatically wrong with the stun buildup mechanic in general

[west wharf]

constricting is already the bis helmet as is

[left matrix]

Yeah its a really wide spread investment direction

[west wharf]

don’t let me discourage you from trying it; it never hurts to give it a go

it’s just my experience that heavy stun investment isn’t particularly useful for Uber pinnacles

haven’t played nor seen a build where it looked very useful in that context

I think constricting is just a way easier and more logical way to access lucky damage

given that even if you don’t use defy, you’d probably still use the helmet

cus rare helmets do not compete

[left matrix]

No no, I definitely am going to give it a go, youre being a fantastic pitch wall, to bounce ideas off.

I've ran into your theorycrafting discussions and few times and definitely respect your opinion on these things,
I fully acknowledge the challenges this build faces, but I wanna see if it could overcome them since its the end of the league and everything should be available to try out in different ways.

Its a self imposed challenge to try and make it work. So im just grateful for the soundwall

[west wharf]

yea it’s not a bad idea to try since even if it ends up worse than constricting

by all means constricting is probably gutted next league

or just gone like deepest tower

[left matrix]

I was also considering deepest tower yeah

[west wharf]

oh that’s just out of the game

[left matrix]

Yeh just saw its been removed lol

[west wharf]

expecting similar treatment for constricting

it’s terrible for diversity