2┃build-planning

[dusky wadi]

I mean. I might give it a try

[carmine flicker]

good sustain

[high rivet]

yeah you can get 10% of thorns leech

then 20% instant leech

[hasty gust]

Going Warbringer with totems right now. Just plants 4 totems and throws fissures from afar. Decent dmg.

[high rivet]

the build comes online at level 16

[dusky wadi]

I’ve just played like…I swear 60 hours this week of witch and ranger…and I’m just tired boss

[carmine flicker]

that early?

[high rivet]

yeah

once you get pale king

[dusky wadi]

I’m tired of getting one shot by abyssals

[carmine flicker]

I did think it need like 30 for all the nodes

[high rivet]

this is my favorite part about thorns

you can easily hit 100% crit chance

[dusky wadi]

How’s the actual damage

[high rivet]

with briarpatch

eh, ill put it like this

i was fighting that new abyssal lich dude, the one with the boulders

i did 1.1 mil within a second (but you need to get hit every so often)

but it makes for some fun boss fights

especially if the boss does an attack with a lot of little hits

[dusky wadi]

do you have a guide or anything for it? Cause I’m still not that experienced to make my own stuff yet

[high rivet]

yeah i have a setup for it, its super simple

[hasty gust]

Just realized Avatar of Fire doesn't work with Armor Break since all passives react with Phys dmg instead of fire dmg damn.

[high rivet]

warbringer works with it

[dusky wadi]

Okay are we talking normal super simple or like. “Spend 5 div” super simple

[high rivet]

im talking like, spend 3 ex, maybe like 20 if you want good stuff

nobody really uses thorns

more than there used to

but a lot of people dont believe

[hasty gust]

Anvil weight ?

[high rivet]

ill stream it

if you want proof

[dusky wadi]

Well I’ve got 160 to burn (prolly minus 40 for ascendancy)

[high rivet]

yeah the thing you want ideally is like, a 2 socket crown of the pale king, and a 30.5% crit briarpatch

[dusky wadi]

More like I just need some kind of cohesive setup, it’s not that I don’t believe you I’m just tired

[high rivet]

i could set up a simple POB for the level 16 version and a bit further

[carmine flicker]

does Kitava's?

[high rivet]

kitavas what

[carmine flicker]

smith of kitava

[high rivet]

oh do they work with thorns you mean?

[high rivet]

yes

[carmine flicker]

yeah, for thorn build

[high rivet]

id say warbringer feels the best

because he can break armour with thorns itself

so its a self-feeding loop

[hasty gust]

I guess I have to get my 3rd ascendancy.

[high rivet]

he also gets 10% phys reduction for jade

and up to 75% block

[carmine flicker]

need to remove armour break somehow tho

[high rivet]

yup

[carmine flicker]

to re-break it

[high rivet]

you exploit weakness

on rapid assault

literally only to remove the armour to get scavenged over and over

[dusky wadi]

How do you deal thorns damage with melee hits?

[high rivet]

there are 2 supports

quill burst, which does thorns in an aoe

and barbs, which can empower next 6 hits with your thorns

so we use a fast attacking skill like rapid assault, to apply them super fast

so if you get hit even once, you're doing at least 7x your thorns

if you get hit more? its even more

like that fire priest in act 3? i one shot him in campaign since he does a barrage

[dusky wadi]

I’m just worried on how it does with clear

[high rivet]

clear isnt as explosive, but its not trudging along

[dusky wadi]

I might do like a more typical warrior build first

like fissures or totem

[high rivet]

https://youtu.be/UoCk_wQRKAE?si=9SonCqoMQdMUA1kA&t=87

here's a video of me doing jamanra from last league

if you want to see how little hits feel with it

i time stamped to like 1:30

and thorns got buffed since then

and no scavenged. like this is a low end view

[dusky wadi]

I might end up trying to free ball a build (which will end up badly)

[high rivet]

i should record some videos of my current damage

[high rivet]

up to you, you were saying how tired you were with those other builds

and im just telling you how fun thorns is

[dusky wadi]

No I get it it sounds fun

I mainly sick of fucking evasion

[high rivet]

warriors are the best

[dusky wadi]

Smith of kitava was the most fun I had last league

[high rivet]

just run at the enemy

well id suggest going something with warbringer, if you do want to swap to thorns

[dusky wadi]

also how are you taking so little damage anyway?

[high rivet]

instant leech

he hits my thorns, i heal 10% of it

you can take nearly infinite little hits

and we stack defenses

so you have to get hit by a big dot or a huge one shot to really feel it

and we easily do like, 30k without much investment per thorns

[dusky wadi]

What exactly are the niches of titan and warbringer?

[high rivet]

not sure as much on that, i dont like titan

warbringer has some amazing defensive options and build defining passives

[dusky wadi]

I just don’t wanna go all in on defense and get nuked in the damage department

That’s what happened with smith of kitava for me

[devout sedge]

i already played a grenade-based mercenary build in previous league, do you think is there a way to build a "heavy machinegun" style build which dont relay on grenades but more on shotgunny\machinegunny style of play? viable to end the game and so some endgame maps, nothing hyper efficient

[high rivet]

yeah, thorns feels great damage wise still

i beat fully empowered vessel of kulemak at level 80 with thorns

before any of his nerfs to make him easier

i said i can show you the damage if you want lol

[dusky wadi]

Is the damage ONLY in getting hit?

[high rivet]

like i said, not entirely, its got to do with barbs

[dusky wadi]

It’s like 6:43 am here and I’m only awake cause I got shocked awake lol

[high rivet]

you get hit so often

so with rapid assault if you get hit fairly often you're applying it almost all the time

like kulemaks laser beam doesnt even hurt me

and his health drops like a ton of bricks

[dusky wadi]

ah see I’m skeptical of using spear, I’m a bonk man so I dunno

[high rivet]

we only use spear for application of barbs

you could use mace i guess, with barbs 3

havent tried it

barbs 3 applies your thorns twice on next hit, but it might be good idk

[twin mauve]

i may be missing something but where did my frost bomb disappear lol

i have enough int

[crystal token]

Ciao, I played 2-3 season in poe1 and my favorite memory with this game was when I played as mjolner templat. I can see that mjolner is now in poe2. Can i build warrior around it? I'm using stampede fissure warrior at this moment

[prime plaza]

You can and it's very good + you can make a giant's blood variation - if you really wants a raw power with not much defences. Holding 2H weapon + mjolner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WUTomqJyVo&t=1s&pp=ygUNcG9lIDIgbWpvbG5lcg%3D%3D

[hasty gust]

Is this and a good combo ?

I made such a dumb question that everyone stopped talking.

[high rivet]

no you didnt, i just dont know anything about it, and nobody was curious about my thorns anymore lol

[high tusk]

guys wanna ask is deflection eva good? or better to just use ES?

[hasty gust]

I honestly have never tried it. Since it is the new thing maybe you should be the pioneer.

[crystal token]

Thank you! I will check it, is smith of kitava or warbringer also good choice? I also prefer shield for a bit more defance

[high rivet]

you could also do armour with deflect

there's that new unique that gives 20% of armour as deflection

[dusky wadi]

How do you search builds on mobalitics? This site is weird compared to Maxroll >.>

[sharp kestrel]

can molten blast generate rage on attack somehow? or is all on-hit generation locked to melee?

[hasty gust]

It is considered as a projectile only so I guess no.

[summer pasture]

It alright, but rapid assault is still better with barbs 2

Might be good for like forge Hammer or hotg

[hasty gust]

Does anybody else have a stash tab called Elon's Keystones ?

[modest ingot]

I already have a stun immunity and freeze immunity charm, which charm should I get as a 3rd one?

Slow immunity?

Poison immunity?

Shock immunity?

[hasty gust]

Slow I recon.

[hard onyx]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/6ff20c32-32ed-4311-be3d-3ba9e47c478f/builds/e1da1213-c234-41fa-8bbd-cf99db271d7b

recommendations???
What things could be improved?

[dense oriole]

Hey fellas for bleed Amazon - would it be correct to assume Quatls molt paired with the Stalking Panther ascendancy point would be a really strong combo? Seems like you'd get a whole lot of deflect

[modest ingot]

does it only affect movement speed or also attack speed?

Also what would be the best modifiers for a silver/slow charm? Charges gained on kill and duration?

[hasty gust]

Monsters that slow you are typically bosses so duration I believe.

[modest ingot]

I see, thank you

[hasty gust]

You could get a gold charm that increases rarity drop on boss kill.

[modest ingot]

What should I get with duration? chance to get charges on kill or increased charges gained?

[modest ingot]

sure, but I do find myself dying quite often when I am slowed by stuff like enfeeble

or bosses

[hasty gust]

charges gained maybe ? I wouldn't know. They both make you gain charges.

[modest ingot]

hmm I see

[frozen knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM99fJn4o9M really wanna try this but GGG would hotfix it as soon as it comes online for me

[modest ingot]

yeah like do you get charges outside of killing?

[celest tinsel]

So
I plan to do blood mage xbow
But how do u level it?
Assuming im ascended with full points
Can u just level with xbow?
like galva for clear and rapid shot + nades for bosses?

[hasty gust]

By killing. The more powerful monsters you kill the more the charge that you get. chance on charge on kill is literally you gain a charge for killing any monster. More charges is let's say a normal mob gives out 0.1 charge with increased it could get to 0.15 per kill. This is based on maths pulled out of my prison purse so don't take it at face value.

[mental briar]

Does blood magic work with Lich Eternal Life?

or are you unable to cast skills because your life cannot change

[vagrant plinth]

Hey if I have Original Sin equipped, does it convert the 50% elemental damage Twister gets from going over a elemental surface to chaos?

[celest oxide]

I just saw the Galvanic Shards Lich build

Wtf

That’s crazy

[celest oxide]

You should look into the Lich version

[mental briar]

dw itll get nerfed before you can use it

[celest oxide]

Since when do they nerf things that aren’t bug fixes mid season

[celest tinsel]

@celest oxide do u have any pob linkas

[halcyon solar]

Do you still need to do Temple of Chaos X times till you get the key for the boss for 4th Ascendancy?

[celest oxide]

Not POB but the video is just above us in this chat and he posted his ninja in the comments there as well

[vapid jasper]

the minion leveling guide im following doesnt mention how many + i should do on minion warriors and snipers, which one should i prioritize

[mental briar]

could be "classed" as a bug if you think about it

If they really wanted to they can do it like that to nerf it

Probably gonna be along the lines of "sacrifice must use life and if it is unable to do so it will not work"

Ofcourse we all hope it isn't but it most likely will be so we can have less fun in games

[celest oxide]

You are way too pessimistic they don’t really go out of their way to nuke things out of orbit midseason

[frozen knot]

the crossbow that makes it possible requires lvl 78(iirc) so wouldn't recommend

[celest oxide]

It’s definitely not “most likely”

[slender furnace]

They do for broken stuff

[mental briar]

Didnt they just recently bug fix stuff that botched builds already

[celest oxide]

Whirling slash and it was way dumber than this

[mental briar]

Like players didnt realise it was bugged

[celest oxide]

Whirling Slash was like 2-3 times faster movespeed than anything else in the game

[mental briar]

Well better to get the lament crossbow now before it becomes 20 div

its already gone up a lot since talk about it has been done

[celest oxide]

I don’t see how this Lich build stands above anything Deadeye can do though

[mental briar]

luckily its a late game build so not many can even use it

[celest oxide]

Tbh I’m not gonna build one for now

[mental briar]

They love deadeye though, you think that matters

[celest oxide]

I’m gonna just focus on my deadeye trying to get rich and if I wanna keep playing after I might try it

[mental briar]

you cannot compare anything to deadeye really

[halcyon solar]

How does getting 4th Ascendancy in Temple of Chaos work meanwhile?

[celest tinsel]

u need to defeat the trialmastah

[halcyon solar]

yah sure, but do i still need to run it several times to get the key pieces etc?

[celest tinsel]

Probably?

[halcyon solar]

thought they might have changed that, since it's just BS imo.

[celest tinsel]

I did not saw any changes to that in patch notes

[halcyon solar]

well Sekhemas it is then.

[timid aurora]

Which warrior ascendency is easier to level once I choose it.

[bold oxide]

you need the three pieces but you can also buy them. theyre pretty cheap this league. i went that route for my last points the other night. really easy fight

[halcyon solar]

what were the key things called again?

[bold oxide]

cowardly fate, deadly fate

and uhh

victorious fate?

something like that

[vapid jasper]

idk what else to do, im following the guide to the letter and minions get insta killed by everything

[halcyon solar]

are they in currency exchange?

[bold oxide]

yeah. under fragments

[celest oxide]

Inb4 Fub rolls Lich as his 2nd character lol

[halcyon solar]

I'd definetely buy a stash tab for darn Tablets.

btw what are these Ulaman and Amumumumu modifiers?

[topaz pendant]

i trolled minions a bit but they arent that bad, you must be doing something wrong, set 2 warriors and 3 snipers with fire atune and multishot support, and your archers should melt everything when you use firewall, are you leveling up your gems or are they all still lv1?

raging spirits is great for bosses, but really firewall and snipers should be clearning everything without problems

[pseudo wasp]

You can view a list here: https://poe2db.tw/us/Desecrated_Modifiers#DesecratedMods I don't think there are specific general categories so you'd need to look for specific mods you want.

[real zinc]

Im amazon but unarmed. Would penetrate even work

i assume just not

[halcyon solar]

I have had it a few times by now that the starting position is so cramped into a tiny space that the Delirium Mirror wasn't even on the map.

[frozen knot]

wouldn't work yep

[real zinc]

but the one before works and its pretty good damage boost

just have to stack stupid amounts of accuracy and dex

[frozen knot]

that scales off of your chance to hit the 2nd one scales of the +x to accuracy rating stat your weapon has

[frozen knot]

on this weapon 25% of the +368 accuracy turns into added physical dmg

[real zinc]

I know how it works. Just asking if there is some weird unarmed interaction

[summer pasture]

If there is it would be unintentional unarmed stuff has no accuracy or base crit chance at all

The only crit chance you would get would be having excess hit chance

Back or see node wouldn't work at all because you're unarmed fist has no accuracy rating on it

[halcyon solar]

is it some kind of setting that i changed that mods are suddenly shown like this for me? It's way too big and absolutely hinders visibility.

[minor wadi]

Tell me how undercooked this idea is:
poison spells infernalist with blackflame and bringer of flame so they have ignite as additional chaos dot

[sharp thorn]

In 0.3 it has base crit. But not accuracy modifiers, yes.

[summer pasture]

Where did they say they added that unarmed has always had a base crit chance of zero

[topaz estuary]

guys i wanna do whacky witchhunter build with the 100 weapon swap points
what would be the best/coolest weapon/skill combo to go for?

[sharp thorn]

In 0.3 it is 5%.

Now none of the unarmed attacks (but now it's conc only) have their own modifiers to crit.

[summer pasture]

Huh no wonder why hollw palms kind of nuts on top of everything you get you have 5% cirt chance you can add on to

[sharp thorn]

5% is kinda low for a weapon, but thanks to how hollow palm allows to scale crit it's good, yeah.

[modest ingot]

Should I use Ambrosia instead of Elemental Armament II on my Falling Thunder when I have 126max charges on my mana flask and I basically never use my mana flask manually?

[kind timber]

i cant find anything that makes siege ballista "barrage" i can only find things that makes "bow or spear projectiles" barrage and siege ballista is crossbow

what makes it barrage

[vagrant plinth]

Hey if I have Original Sin equipped, does it convert the 50% elemental damage Twister gets from going over a elemental surface to chaos?

[solid quiver]

Hello buys and girls quick question, is icewall + wildshard fireball still a good choice for this patch or no?

[lethal minnow]

Hi is it ok for me to ask here if I wanted to ask to talk to someone in voice to help me with my warrior build please? ❤️

[halcyon flare]

Does Frostfire work with Skills that consume Freeze (like Fragmentation Round)?

[slim spoke]

awesome, ty ty

[tidal birch]

Has anybody played Invoker Storm Wave and Ice Strike and has an informed opinion what is better?

[timid aurora]

Which warrior ascendancy for best lvling

[midnight bolt]

does anyone know where to find this list of modifiers? sounds pretty cool if we can weapon swap summon some skeletons, then offering them and proc a bunch of buffs and swap back

[static plinth]

Is Amanamu's Gaze based off max spirit or unreserved spirit?

[dawn spire]

You clicked the arrow at the top to show all the mods

What applies to phys damage first; armour value or "% of phys taken as X"?

[real belfry]

is there any good flicker strike guide?

[patent void]

Does anyone know the minimum amount of base crit required for a crit build on bow?

I have +3.5% and just hit 91 but crit rate in lightning arrow only 30%. Dps going to 95k every kill with the dmg on crit nodes on monk side.

Kind of feels like even lower end crit is good because of these thick bonuses

But all the guides don’t recommend until you have “good crit bow”

[dawn spire]

We have very inaccurate dps calc and build planning right now. The only thing anyone can say for sure is that you should get crit until it feels comfy for you. I don't think there is any sort of agreed upon, "This much crit is needed for the build to feel good"

It depends heavily on the build, specifically your crit damage and attack rate. Lower crit chance might be fine if you can attack fast enough to keep critting regularly

[patent void]

Is idea for Crit rate just to pop the %dmg+ on Crit nodes?

I guess that’s an impossible question

Because I see what you are saying

[dawn spire]

Yeah, everything is a tradeoff

[patent void]

Yea trying to find better route than fubgun guide

He seem to put high pref on Movespeed

But feels like there is better route to go somewhere

[dawn spire]

Ideally you want a balance of crit chance, crit damage, %inc damage, and %inc attack speed. Ideally you prioritize dps over any of those stats

And when I say a balance, I don't meant equal %s of each. I mean put yourself in a position where you can say, "Investing 5 points into any of those stats will raise my dps by an equal amount" or something like that

[patent void]

Yea its a bit speculative

Like the Hare node that gives 20% chance to be lucky is interesting

[dawn spire]

Your "BiS stat" can change whenever you use a new bow, allocate some passive nodes, or when you Calc the dps of a different skill

[patent void]

Because in theory that could be crazy on average boost

So many variables

[dawn spire]

Lucky gets stronger the higher the range is between minimum and maximum

So it can be nuts with lightning damage in particular

[patent void]

Yea that’s what I came to the conclusion of too

If you have bow with light instead of phys you def want to run it

[dawn spire]

And then there's also penetration, %gained as extra, exposure, curses, marks, etc

It's so much to factor in at once

[patent void]

Yea even makes me question if I want a phys bow or lighting now

Like highest dps vs flat base

Brain hurt

[dawn spire]

If you're using lightning arrow then phys damage is basically identical to lightning for scaling purposes

Well, however much it converts

Is how close they are to being identical

[patent void]

Yea agreed and makes lucky better too

I’m still at 95k either way so we are big chillin

I just like to understand why people choose the nodes they do

But I start to think they might not even fully know

And end up going bankrupt resetting passive tree for 3+ hours a day

[summer pasture]

From what I understand conversion is the base damage before increases in poe2 so if you're going lighting arrow you want to scale lighting damage

[static plinth]

Are any of the less popular Spear skills sleeper picks?

Stuff like Fangs of Frost or Glacial Lance or Elemental Sundering

[quiet forge]

not really

the lightning ones are good like storm lance or primal strikes

[dreamy frigate]

anyone have any idea when the unique "the deepest tower" helmet will be re-introduced. i missed the patch notes and made a yolo build around it

[quiet forge]

Probably in 0.4 as a completely new item

Consider it dead

just buy constricting command, it does the same shit

[halcyon badger]

I was loosely following max rolls Boneshatter Warbringer levling guide.. (https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/boneshatter-warbringer-leveling-guide)

One of the passive choices confuses me.

Why would I need accuracy as a mele build (as I thought accuracy was more a problem for ranged), and at the cost of no crits.

Can any one explain?

[quiet forge]

you used to be able to miss melee attacks

[static plinth]

If you're not a crit build its not really a downside anyway

Boneshatter Shockwaves can probably whiff

[halcyon badger]

Ahh- Ok, that at least makes a little sense. I was generally surprised to see anything to do with acurracy on the tree. Especially when no other parts mentioned it as an important stat for gear.

[static plinth]

Well thatd be because whatever little accuracy you need is covered by RT

[halcyon badger]

Thank you kindly 🙂

[dawn spire]

Yes, I was referring to damage on the weapon, specifically. If you're converting to lightning you don't care about phys scaling on the tree, yeah

[static plinth]

Is multishot storm lance + thunderous leap to detonate all 3 anything

[dawn spire]

Try it and find out

[static plinth]

What are the names of the supports that give buffs for every .25s of attack time

How bads the delay on Lightning Rod with non-LA beams?

[dawn spire]

I think I found out a use for the infernalist node. I'm just gonna take the ignite crit thing and "all damage contributes to ignite" and go huge on physical two handers (not sure if maces or crossbows yet). That way I can stack phys damage and phys leech as well as stun stuff. Then I can also do nifty Ignites on the side and maybe do stuff like immolate support

If I go maces it's closer to the witch start and I can get more armour nodes, so that's probably the play. 2h ignite slam infernalist here I come

[hidden siren]

ignite is kinda ass to build towards

[dawn spire]

I'm not doing it for the ignite itself

[hidden siren]

its an extra benefit

ah ok

[dawn spire]

But for the stuff it gives me

Mostly as a way for me to ignite myself for molten carapace

[quiet forge]

can someone tell me what a good baseline is for a global defensive layer

like what people usually set up for their builds in order to survive t15+

[dawn spire]

No. If anyone says they can do that they're trying to sell you something. Unless you mean something very vague like, "Get defenses that are close by on the tree for efficient pathing" or "life on gear is good" or "cap your res"

[quiet forge]

It is vague stuff like that, yeah. My idea was 3k life and 15000 armor, but even on my main the highest armor stack I was able to get was 10k

[dawn spire]

If you're interested in what people are using, poe2.ninja is probably your best bet

[quiet forge]

now I'm trying some weird ass eva to armor bullshit possibly involving deflection

but uh, honestly, I'm looking for more of an overview on all the tools sustain usually uses

A lot of my characters never really automatically manage their HP, for my merc I used life leech III but I could only fit it onto flash grenade which had a delay

really, what i'm looking for is phys leech to life, but since I do tons of elemental, that feels bad

Life on kill you need to stack a shitload of for high max HP builds

all I know is 1k hp and 26% eva isn't cutting it

[static plinth]

Armour is before Deflection right?

Because GGG hates armour

[slim spoke]

anyone on here beaten kulemak yet? im lvlv 22 and trying to get abyssall ascendancy early to level with. anyone wanna help?

[static plinth]

Actually wait

[dawn spire]

It's gotta be. They haaaaaate armour

[quiet forge]

I've had 30k armor on character before and it felt fine
I've also had 82% armor on sheet before and that felt great

the trick is getting defends with 200%

[static plinth]

Full EVA armor + gain deflection + iron reflexes = deflection based off my EVA before or after IR?

[quiet forge]

that's why mercenary is so good at it

[static plinth]

Wait itd be after

[quiet forge]

Like Tactician might be the one I need to run this on for his armor deflection and defends with nodes

[static plinth]

Tac is great but i think 200% armour node and deflect have antisynergy

Since Deflect is like 46% reduction you can only get 4% from your armour

(46% with the tree nodes for more reduction)

[quiet forge]

Why wouldn't more sources of %DR be good?

i'm not even expecting it to take 200% of armor for deflection or anything

even though that would be cool as fuck

[molten birch]

So Inspiring Ally makes increases and decreases to companion damage effect me, right?
Sooooo, Sic 'Em would work riiiight?
Because 4 points for 84% increased damage sounds kinda juicy if that's the case
Actually it's 94% if you go right

[quiet forge]

just figuring that if you're taking a 5k hit, reducing it by 52% and then by another 46% is good

[timid aurora]

Anyone know of a OP warrior leveling build.

I remember rake stomp last patch was nuts

[quiet forge]

Comparing things to SG rake/lightning spear/BM blood hunt will just set you up for disappointment

that said, try grenades

otherwise you're just gonna hear something boring like boneshatter leap slam

[molten birch]

Specifically cluster grendades.
Though say sorry to your GPU beforehand

[quiet forge]

cluster grenades is not a leveling skill lol

Flash grenade works fine dw

[molten birch]

.... yea my bad

[quiet forge]

i got it to clear all the way into t15s

that thing will pay your bills

[molten birch]

Hey do you know if Sic 'Em will work with the node that makes us gain bonuses from our companions? While you're here

[static plinth]

My understanding is that Deflect is part of the max 50% reduced damage taken

Though i may be wrong

[quiet forge]

I need more like "you need 50% evasion with this EHP & a secondary defensive layer like block/deflect + a source of sustain like leech/on-hit/on-kill"

[quiet forge]

the what

I'm not aware of any cap whatsoever on mitigations

Are you saying that 90% armor + 53% deflection is non-functional or something

[static plinth]

Tactician's node is Defend with 200% of armour but max of 50% reduced damage taken

[quiet forge]

oh

That node is talking about how much armor you're allowed to stack

you usually get to go 90%

but his is only 50% except it's 200% of his normal armor

[static plinth]

Though now that i think about it im basing this off PoE1 where the only other source of % reduced phys taken is just that, there is no Deflect

[molten birch]

Yea but in the whole of PoEs history that 90% has never been accurate

[quiet forge]

so he needs less investment to get to the same amount of total % phys DR

[static plinth]

Well its always been accurate

Just against white mobs

[molten birch]

Fair

[quiet forge]

Armor and deflection are separate, they apply to the same hit but they're separate mechanics

like, ever since I heard about it, it sounded to me like deflection was the thing that fixed big hits for armor

[static plinth]

Is there a source of Armour As Deflection besides Tac and Shankgonne?

[quiet forge]

cut them by 42-53% and then shunt it into physical damage taken as element and eat it with sorcery ward/cloak of flame

[static plinth]

Also obligatory mention that Tac is just straight up 100% more armour vs ele

[quiet forge]

those are it

[static plinth]

Shame

[quiet forge]

it is

I need that shit like a crack addict needs their next hit

[silver sigil]

how good is rakiata flow on arc build?

[static plinth]

I think if you wanna use Shankgonne the best option is putting 2 Amanamu's Gaze in a corrupted one and stacking 300 unreserved spirit

Since the downside of Amanamu's isnt as big a deal when you cant sprint

[gaunt mortar]

can you use both shaper of winter and shaper of storms as stormweaver or will it cancel out?

[static plinth]

And Shankgonne has 0 move speed on it

[quiet forge]

I don't want to use shankgonne, I want armor as deflection

[quiet forge]

And I'm not using grenades on this character either

[static plinth]

Royal you, lol

[abstract mortar]

cant penetrate elemental res to below 0% right?

[quiet forge]

yes, it's me

i'm the main character of the world

[static plinth]

Only with unique gloves

[timid aurora]

So crossbow on warrior is easier than mace ? To lvl

[static plinth]

Honestly i think mace leveling is alright

But crossbow is probably easier for the average person

[alpine pecan]

Supporting Fire with Tactician still borderline useless? Still not companion so idk how you'd scale it in any reasonable manner.

[dawn spire]

ED+Contagion is easier than both of those imo

[dawn spire]

If it counts as in your presence then it seems doable, but I'm not sure if it does

[abstract grove]

i can't decide which fissure themed build i'd enjoy more - wb fissure totems or titan ancestral slams

i think the actual volcanic fissure skill pairs best with totems of course, and is quite strong.. but the gameplay is basically putting down shit for your totem to do stuff and throw in some sunders. minimum 2-3 button clear. also it doesn't wreck my gpu but it's definitely a visual mess

titan slam the jam sounds more fun, but actually using volcanic fissure seems worse than just having your stampede shit out fissures, and you need to use a few passives/supports for armour break unless you wanna actually use the armor break skill (ew?)

too bad you can';t turn volcanic fissure into a one button skill

[nimble kite]

yo anyone know where i can farm cultist bow for my build?

[real zinc]

The amount of Mana i spend is frankyl absurd

[static plinth]

Just walk around in maps a while or buy one?

Gear vendor might have one

[nimble kite]

farm

[static plinth]

Its just a regular bow base so just kill stuff and press alt once in a while to disable your filter (or just add it to your filter)

Or again, check vendor

[quiet forge]

how much accuracy do enemies have by default

[static plinth]

At endgame i thiiink its between 8 and 10k? Try looking around poe2db maybe

Okay looks to be around 5k

[quiet forge]

yeah t4 xesht 4,246

75% evasion is deflection

More attacker accuracy = you have less chance to deflect

[static plinth]

Yeah

[quiet forge]

this means I have 40% chance to deflect xesht

[static plinth]

Formula means you NEED % increased chance to deflect to hit 100% btw

[quiet forge]

idc about 100%

50/50/50 everything first

then I scale BiS defensive

[strange siren]

guys this is confusing the hell out of me, surrounded = 5 close enemies, so if this says it requires 4 fewer that means all i need is 1 enemy to be close to become "surrounded" correct?

im asking because if you look at the stat range in parentheses it goes from 5-2 indicating that 2 is the best??? but 5 would be bonkers because then you're always surrounded right???

[cloud pebble]

are there any specters or beasts that create burning ground? 😮

[quiet forge]

"2 fewer" means you need 3 or less

"4 fewer" means you only need 1 (bosses)

"5 fewer" means you are ALWAYS surrounded

[vestal sequoia]

im trying to make this deal cold damage. but i dont know which support gems i can put in

[quiet forge]

use call of the brotherhood instead

[strange siren]

ok thats what i thought, so GGG needs to flip the stat range then because its confusing...

[quiet forge]

nah

[atomic halo]

it doesnt imply 2 is the best, it implies 2 is the greatest number

because it's actually -2

[halcyon solar]

If you would search for let's say Chaos Res in the market. Is there a term that includes explicit and implicit both, without the need of making a group each time?

[quiet forge]

it's pretty clear, if thts confusing then i got bad news for you

[quiet forge]

use weighted sum, otherwise no

[atomic halo]

it shows lesser value to the left, and -5 is lesser than -2

[quiet forge]

make a bookmark on the website, that will preserve your groups

[halcyon solar]

that's what i do, however it'd be great to have smth like "total res"

[real zinc]

[quiet forge]

no better solulu rn

[strange siren]

...look at the stat right above it, 8-12 indicating 12 is the best, so when i see 5-2 i would think 2 is the best....

[atomic halo]

8-12 indicating 12 is the best
no.

you just decided that

the game never told you 12 is the best

it just told you 12 is the highest value

it's not sorted worst - best, it's sorted lowest - highest

the actual underlying modifier

is "requires # additional enemies"

and when the value is negative, it shows fewer

[strange siren]

i get it but anyone who doesnt understand how surrounded works could read this as 2 is what i should struve for like every other stat line on the item

[atomic halo]

bcause people would be confused if it said -2 additional enemies, even though that's the most correct

anyone who doesnt understand how surrounded works

would not understand how the surrounded mod works?

why is that an issue

i get it's confusing that a negative value is good

instead of a positive value being good

[quiet forge]

this just in: you need to read mechanics to understand them

this is dismissive but that's really like, the fucking kiddy pool of PoE 2 systems complexity

[strange siren]

sorry i brought it up, ill fuck off now

[quiet forge]

don't be

you know more now, right?

[real zinc]

Trying to create a full deflect amazon might be harder than i think.

[whole wagon]

Anyone know what the difference between lich and abyssal lich is?

cant see a difference

[real zinc]

huh?? its a different ascendancy thats slighlty altered

[midnight geode]

did they remove the negative resistances u get from the campaign?

[real zinc]

no

[midnight geode]

:(

[fast skiff]

what do I need to do to make flicker strike actually do damage

[alpine basin]

Hahaha. If only

[midnight geode]

its so dumb lmao i hate it

[onyx gate]

hello guys! i have an issue. im playing deadeye with hollow palm. i use storm wave as my main skill for clear and i want to use the one shot mechanic with the falling thunder. So in passive tree i have electrocution and electrotherapy nodes and in storm wave i have electrocute support. i also use combat frenzy and resonance. so far so good im cruising maps fine generating power charges with no prob. but when i go to a boss falling thunder does not generate power charges. in fallling thunder i have already culmination 2 and ailith's chimes and i use tempest flurry to fill falling thunder combos but i dont have power charges for falling thunder to consume. can anyone help me with this please?

[haughty knoll]

Hey guys, do we have a Meta yet for Witch builds?

[alpine basin]

Gearing for res would be ssoooo easy otherwise though

Anyone know if the molten one’s gift noteable applies to sundered armour since it’s in game description states that any modifiers to fully broken armour apply to it unless otherwise stated?

[real zinc]

take thsi helmet for campaign and all your negative resistances are gone

if u hate it so much

u also dont have positive

[midnight geode]

just nerf the res u get from gear and stuff

having negative res while doing the campaign is just ass imo

[real zinc]

so it would be legit the same?

[midnight geode]

not during lvling

[real zinc]

do it like me-dont get hit at all

• 40% deflect

so u rarely die

onyl if you are pretty braindead

[alpine basin]

Coming from PoE 1 66% evade feels half baked hahahaha. I get they’re different games, but i’m used to 95% evade 100% spell supress and then other layers of def on evade characters

[real zinc]

i have infinite leech too if i get hit im back to full in half a second.

[static plinth]

It has 3 new nodes (the green ones) and one altered node (the explosion one does phys instead of chaos)

[whole wagon]

Yeah finally figured it out just killed Kulemak on highest strength for the first time

[static plinth]

Ill be real no idea how you didnt see the bright green nodes changed lmao

[whole wagon]

After spending a hour attempting kulemak i was just happy he was dead tbh

[static plinth]

So how do you unlock it? Kill Kulemak as Lich?

I regret going merc cuz i wanna try it but i cant bear doing another character lol

[whole wagon]

Yes it seems that way. once you get the invitation you kill him then keep handing the finger back until it says fight him at his highest strength

well im essence drain/contagion build looks like im going minions now .....

[static plinth]

Abyssal Lich isnt really minions

Its about sacrificing your minions for your own power

[real zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-throw-sacrifice-simba-sacrificing-gif-17413569

[alpine basin]

I’ve been asking around for days… someone’s gotta know, right?

Does the molten one’s gift noteable applies to sundered armour since it’s in game description states that any modifiers to fully broken armour apply to it unless otherwise stated?

[quiet jungle]

Does anyone have a source to a twink deadeye leveling build? Really not liking mercenary lol

[pale meteor]

If i would like to make sunder + armor explosion work what would be good supports to it? for aoe

[real zinc]

yay another death because i accidentally sprinted woooo

[noble cobalt]

For Chaos Inoculation how do I get my life flask to work to fill energy shield? Did they get rid of that?

[real zinc]

amazon ascendancy has sth for that, but eternal youth got hat removed yes

[noble cobalt]

okay no problem just won't ci then

[static plinth]

Its for mana isnt it

Not ES

[static plinth]

Shavronne's Satchel belt

[slim spoke]

@wild dirge I saw your a level 33 abyssal lich, so im guessing you had some help killing it. I had someone kill it for me, but I still couldn't ascend. Do I need to start the fight, and then have them kill it?

[real zinc]

wait mb yes mana flask recover life and life flask mana

[noble cobalt]

Thanks!

[real zinc]

interlude 3 is so stupidily long

[vestal sequoia]

hi, how can i convert my lightning damage to cold please

[real zinc]

why u want that?

[vestal sequoia]

Im trying to use herald of ice with this

[real zinc]

I can tell you right now thats not gonna work, but you would take this

but if u use this freezing with storemwave is probabyl better

u can also try cold attunement

this helps

[vestal sequoia]

chakra of elements is very interesting but so far away

[real zinc]

and this

[haughty knoll]

Should I go BloodMage or Infernalist? Im brand new to Witch and have only played Merc & Amazon, prior to this.

[real zinc]

u can swap the ascendancy

u would have to run a trial again tho to swap

[alpine basin]

What archetype are you playing? I’ve been using armour explosion and sunder in my build as extra dps against rares and uniques

I’m not sure armour explosion has a large enough AoE for use as a clearing ability, but sunder definitely does.

[vestal sequoia]

thank you, do you think its possible to combine herald of thunder to proc herald of ice ?

[real zinc]

used to work does not anymore

[burnt finch]

is there a consensus on the best hollow palm build for now?

[real zinc]

they cant proc each other

[vestal sequoia]

why ? 🙁

[real zinc]

I men the best is Staggering Palm full evasion and just smashing the tempest flurry button.

It just creates endless waves from staggering palm

• Falling Thunder with Culmination and ailith chimes

[static plinth]

Is anyone able to do me a favor and see if Forge Hammer's recall is affected by attack speed?

[burnt finch]

you got a link? thought the falling thunde tech or ice strike would be best

[wild dirge]

I just entered the well after someone already killed it

I kept the consumable in my inventory but it didn’t consume it

I’m level 46 on abyssal lich now , just entered act 4. I’m having an absolute blast

Doing a spear build with twister as main ability

[real zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1n7j4gj/staggering_palm_with_tempest_flurry_on_hollow/

also can be improved by a bit this build

[slim spoke]

So you can enter even after they kill it? Do you fall into the well or go through a portal they make?

[onyx gate]

hello guys! i have an issue. im playing deadeye with hollow palm. i use storm wave as my main skill for clear and i want to use the one shot mechanic with the falling thunder. So in passive tree i have electrocution and electrotherapy nodes and in storm wave i have electrocute support. i also use combat frenzy and resonance. so far so good im cruising maps fine generating power charges with no prob. but when i go to a boss falling thunder does not generate power charges. in fallling thunder i have already culmination 2 and ailith's chimes and i use tempest flurry to fill falling thunder combos but i dont have power charges for falling thunder to consume. can anyone help me with this please?

[slim spoke]

Thats awesome, im gonna do a shield charge/ shield wall bleed build

[real zinc]

alos u cna use this on basically every class that cna actually reach hollow palm

https://www.rxddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1n78og2/what_an_amazing_league_really_felt_like_01_again/

another video of a build like this

[unborn swallow]

does a support gem like gambeshot or overreach have any effect in minion gems like in skeletal sniper?

[wild dirge]

Porting will only take you to well of souls, you will need the consumable to enter but it won’t eat it if they already killed the boss. He killed the final form of boss and then I just went in. The statue to change ascendancy will just be near the bosses dead body

[wild dirge]

Hell yeah. Umbral well stat stacking ??

I’m using Umbral well to stack projectile speed, I’m at around 370% right now

[burnt finch]

looks fun, clear seems meh, at least without gg gear

[real zinc]

If youre Invoker u can go just full destruction mode with stacking combo stacks

Just go full Combo Falling thuinder and one shot pinnacles

[jaunty oak]

If I have a lot of Penetration and Exposure and then insert a "Effect IGNORES Target's X Resistance" or "Effect considers X Resistance as inverted", does that DECREASE my damage cause it is instead considered "being 0" or "inverts the negative resistance to positive values"?

[alpine basin]

Definitely if you ignore resists, it would reduce your damage assuming you stack enough pen and exposure to take them negative already.

The inverted is more complicated, but yes, if they are negative it would flip them positive, but i’m pretty sure (may be wrong) but pen would apply after that? So maybe it would balance out.

Either way, doesn’t seem like a good pick for whatever build you have going already.

[jaunty oak]

Just Oil Grenades with additional Exposure and FBA applying to Fire damage as well (not working because EXPLOSIVE SHOT REMOVES FBA)

[hard sinew]

so what are we supporting our haste nettle bugs with?

[static plinth]

Pen applies last no matter what

[alpine basin]

Thought so

[feral furnace]

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/b80b
any ideas for improvment ?
or is it time to swap to staff?

[alpine basin]

Thanks for confirming

[static plinth]

If you get 100% invert or 0 res, exposure and pen both become worthless

And obv exposure is actively detrimental when you invert

[slim spoke]

im gonna use it to stacck attack, but thanks abunch im gonna get it soon

[alpine basin]

Why have FBA applies to fire, if you aren’t utilizing it? Could save those 4 skills points and just let pen do its thing, yeah? Explosive shot removing it doesn’t care that it applies to fire, it just cares that it’s there to remove.

[mental briar]

does hollow palm make your basic attack a quarterstaff basic or is it punch?

[alpine basin]

Speaking of FBA effects….

Anyone know if the molten one’s gift noteable applies to sundered armour since it’s in game description states that any modifiers to fully broken armour apply to it unless otherwise stated?

[jaunty oak]

Hmh yeah true ... I utilize Armor Explosion though so FBAing through the 50% Armor Break on Stun node still requires 100% additional Armor Break Value

[wicked breach]

what am I missing about Avatar of Fire? I was curious to see what other warriors are doing and everyone is using it but when I check PoB it's a massive downgrade in every way

[jaunty oak]

Also it is HOPE ... Hope that they fix that bug

[feral furnace]

When I open skills tab it shows qs icon so I guess hp applies to autos as well

[mental briar]

The dream of a one punch man build one day is shattered

[feral furnace]

Gimme a second, I can test

[pale jewel]

Yo guys so after leveling a LA deadeye to 92 im wanting to explore other fun but also metaish builds. Ive seen ED contagion but dots is not my cup of tea. Warrior seems very slow although the animations for the fire skills are awesome what would you recommend?

[feral furnace]

you punch with ur fists

[frozen knot]

purple fire wizardo

[real zinc]

so in the interlude you are supposed to open the vault for the Vaal to free them to help you againste the beast. So you enter tha vault and procced to killing them

[static plinth]

I dont think so, since Sundered Armor is it's own debuff rather than altering Fully Broken Armor

[pale jewel]

Sounds nice, do you have a mobalytics/maxroll link?

[frozen knot]

sadly not i've only seen them on youtube

[pale jewel]

ah ok, does it have a name other name purple fire wizardo? lol

[frozen knot]

blackflame fireball bloodmage

[halcyon solar]

what is the jewel affix to get mana on kill called exactly?

[frozen knot]

of energy

[velvet trout]

Anyone know if the Stun support increases stun buildup from the bloodloss effect on Bloodhound's Mark? Or is it just stun from the explosion?

[mental briar]

With hollow palm?

Nice

Maybe one day a one punch man build will be created

I think the closest to it wouldve been armour explosion warbringer on 0.1 release but HP wasnt there I believe

[undone reef]

Which one is better for a minion build, infernalist or lich?

[wild dirge]

Just keep in mind you’ll need a scepter to get the skeleton that gives attack

[slim spoke]

yup yup, why im gonna use shield attacks

[fleet locust]

Any suggestions for a compaion for dead eye?

[lean canyon]

can someone pls help me make a build work out? I was thinking of making a thor + forge hammer + herald of thunder build but I can't seem to make forge hammer scale well with lightning in pob

[quartz wolf]

if i give enemies exposure on top of this, will the resistance lower it after it hits 0 or before the resistance is ignored

would i be able to not use any penetration that way?

[wild dirge]

Why deadeye?

[fleet locust]

cause im playing dead eye

[wild dirge]

I don’t think any of deadeyes ascension nodes synergize with companions is all

[pale jewel]

Hey does anyone playing blackflame bloodmage know what this means?

"For the % chance to to fire 2 additional projectiles we have the option to roll this as an unveil (abyss mechanic) on staff Item lvl 65. Grab a staff with an open suffix, activate an Omen of the Souvereign and use a T2 spine to get this one guaranteed!"

What confuses me is the "T2 spine" thing what is that?

[jaunty rover]

need a guy who i can discuss auto bomber with please tag me=

[cloud pebble]

Does anyone else notice the change to respecing with regard to weapon set points and regular points? Does anyone know what I mean?

[frozen knot]

do they mean preserved jawbone

maybe poorly translated

[modest ingot]

is something wrong with my game or is it constantly crashing for everyone?

ever since I hit maps I have been crashing over and over and over

game just freezes for like 30seconds etc.

and I have a beast pc

[tender narwhal]

anyone got any ideas to make titan warrior tankier, im so squishy even with big block, armour and max res

[halcyon solar]

Just imagine we had an essence granting movement speed to boots? 😮

[dawn spire]

What are you squishy against?

[tender narwhal]

everything, well everything in t15 at least

it seems like everything wants to 1 shot me

[dawn spire]

What map mods?

[twin mauve]

ive read on reddit that using vulkan fixes it, I changed it to vulkan this morning and haven't encountered it afterwards

[tender narwhal]

nothing specific

i mean poison hurts bad but it always does

[vast mason]

Most People are clearing with Poison Burst....but I think I may prefer Gas Arrow

seems more AE and easier to aim

[dusty arrow]

I'm a chonk doing well in T15 maps. My only struggle is clear (that and desecrated ground, please nerf) - bosses are pretty solid and safe. I want to maintain my quarterstaff focus with an emphasis on physical damage and stun, but I'm struggling to come up with ideas.

My bread and butter are quarterstaff strike (~70k sheet dps buffed during clear), bell, staggering palm, and wind blast. Area clear isn't bad with bell + wind blast, but it feels like a lot of setup.

What are some recommended clear skills for qstaff?

[vast mason]

hit up poe.ninja, sort by quarterstaff, then buy a couple of the top ones and see what you like or xref with youtube

[modest ingot]

Ill try that

[vast mason]

(I'm not trying to get rid of you!)

[teal burrow]

What's the best gem to quality first in EDC? Contagion?

[alpine basin]

Doesn’t it directly modify broken armor? It replaces the icon on enemies, ends when broken armor ends, and is (as stated by the in game description) affected by all modifiers to fully broken armor “unless specifically states otherwise”

In general seems to be a confusing and vaguely outlined debuff in general.

[whole wagon]

Yes

[silent charm]

When using Blackflame Covenant keynote do i scale +Fire Skills if. i don't have access to +all spell skills ?

[whole wagon]

I have ED build with contagion, decay, withering , totem etc. How can i incorporate Abyssal Lich into this?

[slim spoke]

bro its BLASTING omg lvling just got so easy

[tulip fog]

when using Volcanic Fissure, is the distance accuracy calculation done from the fissure itself or from me?

[tribal frost]

can anyone give me a good class for both late game and early game? i want to start a new save after a year and have no idea who to choose. ive done sorcerer so not that or ranger. doesnt have to be THAT good in the early game but it kinda has to be good in maps and just before that

[wild dirge]

Dude abyssal Lich is being SLEPT on , Umbral well is cracked

[uneven crypt]

Using a flicker strike gemling build. Build guide is outdated. It has us using fox talisman's in the 5 sockets of the morior invicus chest....Any suggestions on a budget gem to throw in there while i wait for an update

[wild dirge]

You really just need minion reservation efficiency and spirit gear and you can make any skill in the game viable with Umbral well. It’s so god damn fun

[shut crypt]

guys i need some help

I got a volant quiver and ill lay down the stats

27% increased arrow speed
7 to 20 physical damage
1 to 40 lightning damage
41% increased damage with bow skills
24% increased crit chance for attacks
and 18% chance to pierce

All is fine but its desecrated and i can either choose a 31% increase in crit damage bonus or i can reroll to potentially get levels to projectile skills

[wild dirge]

I’ve been off screening with twister and have to pick up loot like 3 screens away. A couple times I accidentally started boss fights with bosses I hadn’t even found yet because the twisters are moving so far away and fast AF

[frozen knot]

grenadier is really good all the way through

[wild dirge]

Absolutely. Grenades is like one of the most fun builds beginning middle and end. Great league start

You can even pivot it into the mortar cannon now, or just stay grenade purist

Works for multiple classes/ascendancies too. Although it’s hard not to just go for grenade deadeye lol

[static plinth]

Id go rightmost branch (the defensive one,) curse node, and explode node

lol

[patent shell]

why fast as fuck play wind burst in his recent video as a unarmed monk instead of storm wave or light flurry ??? wind burst base dmg and mana cost is giga bad

[dense oriole]

hey lads. what's the take on deflect? Is it worth focusing big on? Considering the amazon ascendancy "stalking predator" with the chest quatl's molt, seems really strong

[silent charm]

another blackflame question, the event horizon keystone says

"53% increased Chaos Damage
Lose 3% of maximum Life and Energy Shield when you use a Chaos Skill"

But i'm converting fire skills, so is there no downside here ?

[whole wagon]

ED Lich cant reccomend it enough

[fast wind]

Whats a good recommendation of supports for Explosive spear?

[manic venture]

Anyone know if you can chance Constricting Command unique?

[proud trout]

I look up abyssal lich players on poeninja and they could al just be normal lich with their nodes

[static plinth]

Should be able to but its rare obv

Probably expecting several hundred chances

[nimble kite]

what is better for deadeye

[drifting shadow]

Anyone know if atalui's Bloodletting works with Channeling Skills like Bone storm?

[wild dirge]

I’m playing a real abyssal Lich build. Idk why most on ninja aren’t. Probably already had expensive builds

Umbral well is very powerful and playable

I tried the power charge one and couldn’t get it to work but there is probably a good build for it with the ES saccing

[solid sparrow]

how does "XX% of Spell Mana Cost Converted to Life Cost" on a staff / wand work with Eternal Life?

[wild dirge]

The offering one seems bad and also has a dead small node in its path, idk too clunky

[proud trout]

I wanted to stack spell damage and use blackflame covenant, but everyone runs that as bloodmage

I thought the offering weren't too bad, also was using the ravenous swarm so they got use out of it. The spell damage buff cull offering could be good

[gentle veldt]

how much life sekhemas boss have with full party?

[proud trout]

But I also don't have the passives to test. Friend ran me through kulemak at level 22

[wild dirge]

I went with an attack build, it’s a pretty fun way to abuse the Umbral well

But there’s lots of ways to go

I’m just stacking skeletal snipers and using the support gem to have the speed also increase damage

[proud trout]

I considered attack build with chober chaber

[wild dirge]

The energy shield Umbral well buffs also look like an insane way to be untouchable

[wild dirge]

My only issue with chober is no scepter unless you run giants blood

Mjolnir or crown of eyes seem good

Or both lol

Mjolnir would also level up the Lightning skeleton for a double dip

[proud trout]

I did see someone running a CoC with comet and blackflame cov. And had like 765 spirit

[wild dirge]

Jesus

[mint sentinel]

what counters the green sht from abyss?

chaos res?

[sharp canopy]

any monks here that can help me guide on the hollow palm ultra fast build?

[keen notch]

if my herald of ice does more lightning damage than cold it won't proc?

because im killing frozen enemies but the herald wont activate

[static plinth]

Is there anything funny you can do with Forge Hammer being basically a ranged slam skill?

[static plinth]

Mix of fire and chaos mainly iirc

Quite a bit of phys too

[broken wing]

The frozen ants are 100% guaranteed nerf right?

[mint sentinel]

Im max on all res's and that shit still melts my HP

[summer pasture]

If running armor get armor applies to ele hits, that will help with the fire

[violet yarrow]

So bleed and poison is calculated with the premitigation damage of the hit right? so does armour break not do anything to boost their damage? Its weird that there is a support for poison damage to break armour

[mint sentinel]

Armor on monk isnt really what i was going for

[rough osprey]

At what point in the game or level do you deadeye rangers change to chaos inoculation?

[runic creek]

I have a build idea, curious what people think of it. It's a bloodmage build that ignites, poisons and bleeds all at once.
I can scale spell damage, crit and ailment damage/duration etc
Using these 2 I can make my fire spells scale all 3 ailments

I was thinking probably fire infused ice comet for single target and fireball for clear

just have to get enough chance to apply the ailments which seems doable with the passive tree and gear

[static plinth]

Personally i think youd be better off just doing Ignite and Bleed and using Saitha's Spear

[runic creek]

Oh i wasn't aware of aggravating ignites

wouldn't losing the weapon slot lose tons of spell damage and crit though? surely a good staff would be a lot more damage

[static plinth]

I mean using Rake or something and scaling flat fire on attacks

If youre set on spells Saitha's isnt the way to go

[formal silo]

is there no jewels for deflect?

[static plinth]

Oh what you could do is your plan, but have Rapid Assault Saitha's Spear on weapon swap

Doing just 1 Rapid Assault should guarantee an aggravate on both your bleed and ignite from your spell

[summer pasture]

Hence the word if

[runic creek]

that's a good idea

I wonder if fire pen would increase the damage of the bleed and poison in this case, it should do right?

since it's increasing the damage of the fire hit

[static plinth]

Pen is part of mitigation so it wouldnt

[runic creek]

ah ok

[mint sentinel]

Got it 😅

[runic creek]

what about exposure?

would that increase the dmg of the ailments?

[static plinth]

Only the ignite cuz its part of mitigation too

[pliant sleet]

can anyone explain to me why the staff on the left gives me more dps as a monk?

[real zinc]

wait u can put Culmination and ailith into winddancer

wait a second

yep works

[drifting shadow]

significantly higher ele damage and attack speed

[pliant sleet]

but doesnt the one on the right have more ele dmg?

its like 500 dps vs 800 dps

but all my skills get lower dps

[runic creek]

Doing a quick setup in pob, I'm confused as to why the ignite is so low

it's a fireball hit where all of the damage is fire damage

ah it's because ignite chance is 5%

[signal crow]

Witch's Witcher Away (in tree) vs Withering Presence (gem). Are they BOTH Auras AND Presence for scaling? Passive tree once seems to only be Presence.

[runic creek]

ah flammability magnitude isn't working in pob yet

[wanton stirrup]

is lightning spear amazon still a thing or did it get nerfed into the ground

[spare herald]

Hi guys, I was wondering if a resonating shield armor breaking + explosion build would be viable late game?

If anyone could push me in the right direction please do so

Not sure if this is build help or planning as I have nothing build yet

[still dirge]

if your attack speed is basically base, 17% attack speed is a very large powerspike

[chilly mist]

would anyone be willing to check out my current build and tell me how bad i'm doin?

[somber pendant]

Can I use this jewel in the lich ascendancy jewel node?

Don’t have it unlocked yet to try

[atomic halo]

maybe, if you want it to do nothing?

oh it says "basic jewel" anyway

so you can't socket it

but even if you could it would do nothing

[somber pendant]

Ah thought it said non unique

Oh yeah those aren’t notables or small passives

X_x

Other area I was looking was self curse. Since I plan to switch to abyssal lich at some point

Clustered pretty nicely over there

[mental briar]

If armour explosion says converts 100% of physical damage to fire damage, does that mean the skill will only benefit from bonuses to fire damage? Or will it also benefit from physical damage

[atomic halo]

everything works except global phys

because your damage will be converted to fire

so global phys no longer works

but flat phys on your weapon and any local phys mods on said weapon still work

[mental briar]

Ok also if im not mistaken only amulet gives global damage modifiers right? Other than passive nodes

[median wharf]

Jewels

[languid kestrel]

theres no cap to elemental penetration right?

[atomic halo]

it cannot penetrate below 0%

so if you have 100% pen against 50% res, you will hit against 0% effctive res. if you have 100% pen against -50%, you will hit against -50%.

[languid kestrel]

ahhhh gotcha, thank you

[carmine flicker]

someone know where people put their guides now? made smth actually cool(at least I think it have potential), want to share

[narrow depot]

Yo if i need more dex and strength, what would be suitable to look for

gear wise

i dont want to dump my passive tree w it

i need abt 20 dex and 27 strength

[tulip fog]

how much damage penetration is a good amount? i am currently sitting at 49%, considering if i should annoint my amulet with a node that gives me an additional 18% damage Penetration but dont know if there are any enemies that has more than 50% resistance to an element?

[carmine flicker]

Some rares with map mods could have more

[tulip fog]

how much more than 50% though? do they get upwards of 70 - 75% resistance to an element?

or can they only get slightly more than 50? like 60 - 65% ?

[carmine flicker]

They can, but it's rare

[tulip fog]

ok, so its more worth to annoint something else then, 49% is "enough"

[carmine flicker]

Like mob with base that have 30 res, rare +res mid and map res mod

[teal burrow]

EDC Lich - what should be my first 4th support in Dark Effigy? I have Overabundance, Controlled Destruction, Poison

[tulip fog]

ok, just need to get a good amulet now and i can have a really tanky build that still deals a lot of damage, finally

[weary elbow]

is damage taken recouped as energy shield super strong for CI builds with large energy shields? I might try to fix this helmet and take the talent for +15% so 35% total?

[teal sail]

are there any good melee/parry huntress builds I could look at?

[boreal scarab]

can someone take a look at my build and tell me what im doing wrong? 🙂

[tulip fog]

click the "recouped" text to make sure it doesnt say that it needs to deal damage to health to recoup, if it doesnt then yes it would be pretty strong

[weary elbow]

"whenever you take damage from a hit"

[bronze ore]

does anyone know if "Allies in your Presence deal #% increased Damage" works on totems?

[tulip fog]

then yeah, since it doesnt specify health that should work with both ES and/or Mind over matter as far as i know

[tulip fog]

it should work on totems, totems count as allies

do note that the regular "presence" aoe is just 4 meters though, so you might wanna increase that if you wanna stand at a safe distance away from your totems

i believe you can hover your mouse over "presence" text to see a visual representation of its aoe

[elder geyser]

probably crazy talk but, I have 10 of each color, do I get all 3 effects?

[weary elbow]

knowing this game you probably get none

[tulip fog]

probably no id say, it needs to be a majority

[elder geyser]

😅 fair enough

[proven spindle]

Should lich be taking chaos innoculation with the life cannot change node?

[elder geyser]

would probably be too op

[bronze ore]

@tulip fog thanks

[weary elbow]

seeing as how i just used an essence on a 3 suffix to remove 120 damage prefix to put 5 skill level on a staff

[tulip fog]

is skill levels not a suffix on staffs? you'd think that it would only remove suffixes to enable adding the skill level stat

[weary elbow]

i thought that too\

but my staff went from 235% damage to 115 cause it killed the +120% fire

[tulip fog]

damn, good thing to know, i was considering using a similar thing on my mace tomorrow, now ill just skip that

i can live without skill levels

[weary elbow]

my guild is saying i probably fucked something up

but i really dont get it

[tulip fog]

the essence does not specify that it only removes suffixes, so there is always the chance that it could remove other stats but yeah, idk

[tulip fog]

does your staff have 4 suffixes now?

[weary elbow]

i dont know

i instantly sold it to the vendor

[tulip fog]

if you check the buy-back section is it still there?

im just curious

[weary elbow]

i can check my outplayed

and see what i did wrong

[tulip fog]

please do, im curious

[weary elbow]

it's not a 0% chance i had 3 p and 2 s

i really thought i had it right

that's why i slammed

[tulip fog]

if you did not have 3 suffixes that could explain why it picked a prefix

[weary elbow]

its really not fun learning the hard way

[tribal compass]

Is lightning spear huntress still good?

[full wasp]

with about 1 div, deadeye or witch hunter for galvanic/shockburst rounds?

[cloud pebble]

there is a Trail Of Fire minion you can catch, right? 😮

[cinder river]

Does anyone know what the movement speed penalty is for shooting a crossbow? do i get sloed by 50% or what is the number?

[carmine flicker]

what build?

[fading silo]

Which skill should I put my first jewelers orb on??

[balmy loom]

When should you start stacking on Chaos Resist?

[fading silo]

just dropped one

[carmine flicker]

how much is good endgame DPS now? for a tank build

[tulip fog]

i am doing my own version of volcanic fissure + shock totems as a smith of kitava rather than a warbringer or titan. i have 65%+ phys dmg reduction from armor (6.5k phys max hit), 82% all ele max res plus 100% of armor applies to ele dmg (about 16k ele max hit) and capped chaos res. combined with 3.6k life (could get upwards of 4k if i can get a good amulet). my damage feels fine right now but i have yet to try any of the pinnacles.
oh, right, i forgot to mention, i have 54% passive block chance too

[carmine flicker]

cause I'm going with like 13k max phys, 55k max ele, 5k recovery per second(10k total pool) and around 200k DPS
idk if that's good enough tho

[tulip fog]

those sounds like path of exile 1 stats

[rotund veldt]

Hey Guys, im building a LS Rake Blood Mage rn and attempting some issues on Pinnicle Boss fights. My Rake just melts half the Health Bar und stops...the Build should going to mealt all the way through. Someone experienced here who can take a look at my PoB?

[atomic halo]

2 orders of magnitudes off with the dps maybe

[tulip fog]

yeah, if it was poe1 it would be like 20mil dps instead of 200k, but the rest sounds pretty decent for a poe1 character

[carmine flicker]

nah, POE1 stats are like 400k max ele, 100k max phys, 30M DPS

(my last jugg had close to 700k max ele with guard skill and progenesis, but that's transcendence jugg for you)

[tulip fog]

i find it hard to believe you can achieve 200k dps AND get TWICE the phys max hit that i do, almost triple my health and 5k life regen/sec at the same time in PoE2

[carmine flicker]

and I really wish I could use shield+focus in POE2
weapons are so overrated...

nothing good to use in right hand, really, may be scepter for spirit

[carmine flicker]

ehh, I have 0 move speed
I mean 0% increased

slow af

[tulip fog]

i have a pair of 30%ms boots, thats all ms i have

[carmine flicker]

my boots 🙂

[thorn onyx]

"allies in your presence" does this include myself as the host?

[carmine flicker]

I could get a lot more ES, but then I will need to find another way to do damage on lich and I have total of zero ideas how
don't suggest ED/C, it's trash

[carmine flicker]

no

[tulip fog]

i see, its energy shield, that does explain why its so high and why the recovery is so high too

[carmine flicker]

prayers for rain to make it non-stop

[tulip fog]

i wonder if GGG will consider either removing energy shield nodes from the passive tree or adding more life nodes in the marauder/mercenary part of the tree to make it a bit more equal...

[carmine flicker]

well, I really hope for the second approach

[tulip fog]

yeah

[carmine flicker]

ES without nodes would be useless shit

[tulip fog]

like life is right now, lol

[carmine flicker]

I had to jump through a lot of hoops and spent 3 days on tests, math and all

to make it damn work like I want

[tulip fog]

are you using that one unique chest armor that gives you massive recharge rate?

dont remember the name

[carmine flicker]

nah

[atomic halo]

that's the aforementoned prayers for rain

oh nvm

that's gloamgown

[tulip fog]

i remember it sets your recharge timer to like 10 seconds? and gives you insane recharge rate, so you just need to invest in recharge timer reduction to get it low enough and its basically done

[carmine flicker]

I don't use that one

[tulip fog]

ok

[carmine flicker]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Prayers_for_Rain

I use this

[tulip fog]

ah, i see

[carmine flicker]

now all I need is to force fastest recharge possible and once it's there - it's there

[fast wind]

Is deflection any good?

[carmine flicker]

it's 100% better than without

[fast wind]

Compared to ES+EV?

[carmine flicker]

it's not "or", it's "take both"

[fast wind]

Wym?

[carmine flicker]

you can go es/eva/deflection no problem

[fast wind]

I see

Im just struggling to build how I want is all and im starting to hit a wall

[abstract mortar]

how much resistances mobs usually have? without exposures/curses

[drowsy temple]

quick question if anyone knows: with Veil of the Night helmet the banner node Inspiring Leader still won't benefit you with elemental resistances, correct?

[atomic halo]

correct

[atomic halo]

0%

[drowsy temple]

thanks

[atomic halo]

the mode/median resistance for any given monster for any given resistance is 0%

[cerulean bronze]

Hey guys quick question, Want to replace my current bow and after looking to available options I am confused on whether to just solely focus on the highest dps bow and go with that or go for a slightly lower overall dps with +x an attack/proj skill considering my build can handle the mana drain. Say for example, I have a bow with 400 total dps and another bow with 350 total dps with +4 to attack skills. Is it safe to assume the second bow is better? Also is flat phys better flat lightning/ele, which should I be giving importance to?

[abstract mortar]

huuh really? why would we get penetration then? we cant penetrate below 0%

[atomic halo]

because rares and bosses will have resistances

and those are the monsters that actually count

[abstract mortar]

make sense

[atomic halo]

the average resistance is 0% because the average monster is a random white monster you kill anyway

the ones that matter often do have resistances

and if they do, any res when you have no pen is a huge amt of damage loss

[abstract mortar]

Do they have base res aswell? or can I check it somewhere?

[atomic halo]

also map mods add resistances

[abstract mortar]

Was trying to find it

[atomic halo]

poe2db.tw

but you'd have to check every monster individually

[abstract mortar]

Yeah was trying to find it here lol

[abstract mortar]

oh okay

[atomic halo]

if you type in the name of any given monster into search it will pop up

[abstract mortar]

tyty

[steady birch]

if you will only reach 50% eva, is hybrid still better or just focus es?

[boreal scarab]

any chance someone can help me with build?

[carmine flicker]

what build?

[magic snow]

how much better is lightning arrow over ice shot

[median wharf]

A lot

https://tenor.com/view/this-much-open-arms-linus-tech-tips-ltt-wide-arms-gif-25216294

[viral sage]

is it viable to make 1h warrior build in the long run?

[quaint dagger]

whats the best way to scale infused spells? just gem level, elemental damage, crit chance and crit damage? are the specialized nodes for a single element even worth it for spells that deal multiple different damage types due to infusions? they usually seem to offer a lot of penetration. staffs sort of have the same issue of being often more beneficial for a single element

[median wharf]

I was able to put together a mjolnir build together last league

It was decent

[alpine basin]

Very. Titan and warbringer are both solid right now. Less dps obviously but easier to gear than going giants blood.

[boreal scarab]

its frenzy charge glacial lance deadeye....

[alpine basin]

Anyone know if persistent ground 2 and 3 are still bugged with jagged ground?

[solar walrus]

is there a resource that shows every spot you get skill points in the campaign? I am doing a build on POB and it appears to have more skill points than I do at my level. (91)

[frozen knot]

press P and check how many weapon set skill points you have

[solar walrus]

22

[quiet forge]

missing 2

[frozen knot]

so youre missing 2

[solar walrus]

i thought most gave 5

nvm thats atlas

lmao idk where these 2 points r from

[quiet forge]

lol 5 per book

broken as fuck

[solar walrus]

found the 2 points in the interlude

[river dew]

I saw some item that staggered a portion of damage you take over 4 seconds or something. I can’t find it again for the life of me

[rugged kraken]

currently at like a 125% chance to daze is there any reason to keep upping the magnitude of stun/daze over 100?

[open brook]

whats the best way to do fire conversion for the Forge Hammer on war bringer? The reason is because I want ignites to be able to finish low health enemies so I dont have to do another slam. There is Avatar of Fire and there chernobogs pillar which might be a good stand in with warbringers 75% max block node, or just run both? Is there anything Im not considering here?

[sonic jacinth]

did they change the name for sigil of power ? i cant find it

[pulsar talon]

has anyone tried a bleed monk build? Is it even a thing?

[rugged kraken]

Im kinda doing one right meow with hollow palm its a odd build thats not really meta I think

[alpine basin]

Avatar of fire is probably enough honestly. Could slot in fire attunement and the like as well.

Feel like you lose a lot of good stats for chernobog when you could have a rare shield. And infernal cry gives like 50% as added fire as well.

[distant tendon]

Does ANYONE have a ritualist build that isnt using a bow...

[alpine basin]

And if you’re warbringer and using the ancestral spirits you can use infernal legion III and meat shield for some extra ignite

[cobalt vessel]

Is Veil of the Night a trap?
How strong are elemental damage in juiced t15 maps?

I am using a high hp Rathpith build

Really considering using VoN but am worried about being one shotted

[brittle anvil]

I haven't played it myself but I heard poeple with 7-8k hp said it's quite comfortable

[cobalt vessel]

Yeah was thinking of trying these...thank you

still kind of worrying after I heard a white mage mob's meteor hits for 8k at just a normal t15

[faint token]

Yoo how much EV % should be enough for endgame?

[open brook]

dont use that helmet, its meme from one of the first uniques realeased in poe1, all elemental hits are balanced around you having 75% resistance. A 10k fire hit is reduced to 2.5k, your 50% increased life will not save you

[faint token]

Im reaching 60-65. But im dying alot from alched t15s

[cobalt vessel]

Thought so, guessing the guides recommending them are just glass cannoning for dps?

Thanks for the reply

[open brook]

ok maybe someday there is something out there that gets like 20k life, in that case maybe that is some reason to use it

[brittle anvil]

this league has the new mod % of armor applies to elemental damage taken maybe you can utilize that with the helmet?

[cobalt vessel]

Nah just 8k 9k, that's why I was keep worrying

[cobalt vessel]

I was thinking about that, but armor stacking as a witch seemed kind of hard, and armor don't help much with one shots

Thanks for the suggestion though, will look into it

[open brook]

eventually we will get alternative life stacking options like poe1 items like Geofreys sactuary, Ivory tower, and shapers touch, at that point it will enable armour/es stacking with high life

[cobalt vessel]

Dang using Sacrifice of Blood without VoN feels kind of bad..but I guess there's no choice

[worldly oriole]

For gas grenade, do i really care about my xbows actual dps, or do I just care about the damage on it?

[open brook]

are you using the gas grenade for utility with armour stripping poison support?

[worldly oriole]

To clarify, for poison

[jaunty rover]

Damage on the skill gem

[worldly oriole]

It's not for utility, it's just straight up poison dmg

[jaunty rover]

Anyhow i have spent over 70 div on spark and still cant do t4 simul maybe rathpith is the way

[cobalt vessel]

Rathpith+Sacrifice of Blood abyssal jewel

Seems really good this season

[jaunty rover]

Yea i have a bloodmage too

[cobalt vessel]

but you gotta get some hp to actually get the engine working it seems

Which is why I'm really on the fence about veil of night lol

[jaunty rover]

Veil of the night seems bad

[cobalt vessel]

It does for sure

but dang it's hard to get ton of hp as blood mage

[jaunty rover]

But if your dmg is so high nothing can touch you seems fair

[jaunty rover]

Grand spectrum ruby alone is expensive

[cobalt vessel]

I think I might try it out after I get the lineage gem that gets you phys damage per life cost

[jaunty rover]

I have that rn atalui

I have 12 div saved rn was looking to buy inverted skill gem

But what’s the use if cant even do deli maps

[pearl sluice]

sorc is shot this wipe

[jaunty rover]

Sorry what

[magic snow]

which of these is better

[pearl sluice]

the class is shit

[jaunty rover]

I have a blood mage

[pearl sluice]

why are you playing spark on blood mage

[jaunty rover]

Cant see

[jaunty rover]

Cause i run choir

For coc and coa

Maybe will just get a proj +3 atp

[brittle anvil]

why not lol

[pearl sluice]

isnt lightning spear just objectively better

[jaunty rover]

Choir is the only amulet skill in the game that can generate energy

For cast on crit or cast on ailments

[brittle anvil]

hmm I think they changed it this league?

[pearl sluice]

choir is pretty worthless

[jaunty rover]

Huh no?

[pearl sluice]

like a 1 ex/vender trash

[jaunty rover]

No lol

[pearl sluice]

yes

[jaunty rover]

Yeah i mean check lvl 20

Wtf

[cobalt vessel]

Choir lv20 slaps wtf you talking about lol

[jaunty rover]

I have been getting scammed this whole time

[brittle anvil]

[pearl sluice]

^

[jaunty rover]

Aight thanks will change to a proj +3

[cobalt vessel]

Oh thank god I changed it to non CoC build then lol

[pearl sluice]

path notes do be cooking shit

[cobalt vessel]

You shouldn't need CoC after Rathpith anyway

thanks for the heads up

[pearl sluice]

blood mage is in the best state its ever been in anyway

got a lot of improvements

[cobalt vessel]

Crit is just damn fun

Endless hp leech/regen is also fun

[jaunty rover]

I have 90k flat dps rn with a good amulet should be gucci 200k ig

[cobalt vessel]

I just gotta figure out how to survive one shots and freeze/stuns

[pearl sluice]

afaik tangle fork is a pretty good unique for them

can someone who plays deadeye help me with my build

[wanton fern]

yo is it common knowledge yet that you can run triple curse without even whispers of doom? If you get blasphemy with 2 curses + Atziri's allure, it doesnt reflect curse and let's u go over the limit?
Trying to find anyone using this in an interesting way lol

[potent spoke]

Can anyone recommend me a build with a guide for a warrior spec? I am kind of running aimlessly through Middleearth Wreacleast.

[elder mural]

Graspiing wound from blood mage, work if you get hit and it owuld kill you ?

The 25% apply only if u survive the hit ?

[sudden imp]

Can someone recommend me a build for cold or lightning sorc? I haven't played since 0.2

[cobalt vessel]

Huh that's some fun interaction

[cobalt vessel]

Animeprincess seems to have uploaded a decent one

lightning orb stormweaver with 10k+ ES

[sudden imp]

I see

[cobalt vessel]

Bloodmages are really cool this season if I recommend some myself