2┃build-planning

[untold glen]

Aftershock and reverberate support gems work for all slams.

[static plinth]

All slams are mace skills

Impact Shockwave works but i misunderstood how aftershocks work anyway

I wanted to trigger Forge Hammer's aftershocks without being melee

[static plinth]

Wait i forgot the quarterstaff ones

This could work

Falling thunder doesnt have added attack time at least

[proven rapids]

There is quarterstaff slam too

[wraith vortex]

0.3 isn't adding weapon lock, is it?

i can't seem to find it in the patch notes, and it'd help my main WiP

[faint current]

Oh my goodness chat, I’m getting anxiety from reading the patch notes. I tried a new build today and made it to level 30 and now I’m in bed reading the patch notes and I don’t think the build will work anymore.

I was playing a witch and going to become a vampire princess and I was using frost bolt and cold snap but look at what happens to cold snap in 0.3:

Cold Snap: Has been reworked, and renamed to Snap. It can now be used on any Orb spell or any frozen, shocked or ignited enemy, causing an explosion of the corresponding damage type and creating a remnant of the corresponding type from enemies. This explosion can chain react to a limited extent from enemies hit that are affected by the same ailment. Now deals 48-540 to 72-810 Cold Damage, 2-27 to 46-512 Lightning Damage, or 17-192 to 26-288 Fire Damage at Gem levels 5–20 (previously 70-670 to 105-1005 Cold Damage). Quality now grants 0-10% chance to spawn an additional remnant (previously 0-20% chance to not consume freeze).

[dark pulsar]

Cold Snap relied on freezing stuff first as far as I remember

That was buffed across the board

[untold glen]

Nah Spear has a one or two slams, and quarterstaff has some too

[dark pulsar]

So every skill should kinda work like cold snap now I guess

[untold glen]

Yeah I was theorycrafting a Smith of Kitava build with Solar Orb and Snap on the cast fire spell on melee hit, and use Mjolnir, to do the same with the lightning version. Maybe add on cast on elemental ailment and get the cold damage version as well or jsut add frost bomb 😄

Ancestral Cry looks like its only restriction to reuse it is getting 100 glory, and it gets 50% duration increase per endurance charge. I wonder if you can have a build that can keep it up pretty much constantly.

Volcanic steps, Volcanic Eruption, Ancestrally boosted strikes and slams, If you're getting a base of 3 endurance charges maximum, and I feel like 6-7 was previously the top, thats 300-350% increase on an 8 sec timer... 36 seconds? Then support gems like persistance to push it further?

[faint current]

While leveling up I’ve been using cold snap to explode my frost bolts manually. I don’t think it will let me explode frost bolts anymore 🥺

[untold glen]

I think theres meant to be a lot of ways to get combos like this working. I think youll find there will be way more ways to get this working.

[dark pulsar]

Don't ppl use ice nova to explode frost bolts?

https://youtu.be/UdKzBauVeC4?si=jZqgiqqqqU0DSXBJ

Should be the same

[vale mesa]

Hi guys. I really wanted to try chronomancer for a long time now. Are there some solid starting guides or at least theories which I can look into?

[faint current]

I learned about my build from a completely different person on YouTube and it’s not like this person’s. They don’t use cold snap at the end game but it’s needed for leveling up the build.

I’ll probably see what information I can find tomorrow here in the chat in the afternoon and worse case scenario I just copy everything from
The 0.2 guide and it will either work or fail 🤧

[dark pulsar]

Should be fine haha as far as I can see next week the game will be much easier

[dark pulsar]

Tbh chrono isn't really recommended for new players

It's missing a lot of dmg and relies on specific interactions

[vagrant basin]

There is any tool already updated to 0.3?

[dark pulsar]

Not yet as far as I'm aware

[hoary bolt]

we dont have the tree yet

so no

[violet yarrow]

does anyone know if skill effect duration affect the duration of withered?

[dark pulsar]

Pretty sure yes

[violet yarrow]

thanks!

[uncut compass]

If I were looking to do a chaos build using essence drain and contagion, which ascendancy in .3 would be best for that?

[violet yarrow]

Does anyone know if I can set custom modifier in POB to simulate the new Blackflame keystone? Just typing Converts 100% of Fire Damage to Chaos Damage doesn't seem to do anything

[unreal sierra]

try 100% of Fire Damage converted to Chaos Damage

[violet yarrow]

omg it works thanks so much!

[scarlet sandal]

Original sin ring i believe

[woven depot]

its inaccurate though

doesnt represent the keystone in its entirety

so if you want to include the ignite portion as well id just use Bringer of Flames as a custom modifer

given that you arent doing a whole lot of non-fire damage

as that might skew it

alongside conversion

sorry

[violet yarrow]

thanks for letting me know about that!

[woven depot]

i completely brainfarted initially, cause the dudes conversion line is 100% correct

but if you do want to include the second part of the keystone id use BoF as a custom modifer

[violet yarrow]

do you know how do I set having BoF in custom modifer?

[woven depot]

copy the text exactly

[violet yarrow]

weird cuz it doesnt seems to be working for me

[fickle thistle]

is 3k life pool fine? im not sure if its enough to survive

[violet yarrow]

nvm it works now

however I think you also need to add the mod from the Blackflame ring to make ignite deal chaos damage right?

Enemies Ignited by you take Chaos Damage instead of Fire Damage from Ignite

[hoary bolt]

probably

ignite still deals fire damage no matter the source

so the additional mod needs to be typed in to make it be affected by chaos res and wither

[oak notch]

Can Monk be good without that bell-thingy or is that pretty much mandatory for bosses?

[dreamy bridge]

Lich is the best asc for chaos spells

[lean canyon]

could a full lightning Thor build be done with the Mjölner club and forge hammer? (the new ability that allows to throw the hammer)

[sharp thorn]

Unless they changed thundergod's wrath it triggers on melee hits.

So it's probably not possible.

[lean canyon]

forge hammer is classified as melee

does that not count tho?

[sharp thorn]

Well, then it does.

I didn't read tags.

[lean canyon]

nw I m not a builder and thought it would look cool

with like a big lightning chain reaction

and ice explosions

[frosty finch]

Seems fun with slam totems

[lean canyon]

do u think Doryani's Prototype could help in that full lightning build? Like getting ur lightning res as much negative as possible?

[frosty finch]

So i tried it in a LS build and I was melting bosses

[lean canyon]

Deamn, what about map clearing?

[frosty finch]

Nvm it wasnt ls

It was primal strike

And ls for clearing

The clear was ok

[lean canyon]

i see

[frosty finch]

But it was LS

Primal strike was surprizingly good

Unless you play with other people that play lightning spells its okayish but not great

[lean canyon]

mhhh I see I see. Cuz I was thinking about creating a Thor build with the Mjölner club and forge hammer new ability

[violet yarrow]

Is there anyway for a ES character to use this amulet or its just generally unusable?

[frosty finch]

I feel like mjolner is bad just because you have to get int to socket spells

[lean canyon]

mhhh true true

[unreal sierra]

zealot's oath maybe

[frosty finch]

There must be a support gem that makes you unable to ignite enemies , i doubt its better than a normal amulet with +3 spell level tho

[violet yarrow]

yeah I guess I'll just use a normal amulet with + spell level instead

[frosty finch]

Unless there is a specific build that does something when you take fire damage or get ignited

[timid aurora]

Best mortars totem class?

[dreamy bridge]

probably tactician, maybe warbringer if you're feeling spicy

[north talon]

Armor applying to elemental on this is actually crazy efficient to run this 🤔

Even with only 75% fire res that is effectively 2 damage per ignite

Assuming it is a hit

[granite fossil]

Is there a good site to theory craft a build on or should I try to use pob

[violet yarrow]

its not really how much damage you take that matters but its that taking damage stops your ES recharge

[pseudo bone]

Warbringer/Deadeye or Tactician if you are actually going to do the "place totems then shoot" style. We need the full changes - need the tree, need the full mortar details. Unless some massive change comes each is close enough.

[north talon]

I am more just thinking about how usable it can be on fire warrior tbh. But yes there are gems that prevent ignites

[timid aurora]

Damn deadeye seems OP I see everyone mention it for so many builds

[pseudo bone]

It just gives stuff. Evasion likely won't suck, and you need to mass summon totems. On top of +1 projectile it also can give a bunch of evasion and skill speed which quickens totem summoning. Warbringer might have some cute armor break combo, Tactician might be desirable with new Persistent gems.

[north talon]

Deadeye is the generic super good projectile acendency

[verbal sonnet]

Anyone found a way to make a "caustic arrow" type of build that works well?

[frail sedge]

Yo if you use Doryani's Prototype armour and lower your lightning resist as much as you can, don't you get 1-shot by literally any lightning aoe?

[verbal sonnet]

or better yet is there a build planner that shows the new skill tree?

[frank talon]

Generally asking: what are some of the fire spells you guys liked to play? Looking for inspiration what to look into

[frosty finch]

incinerate

with the ignite spread unique ring and with the chaos ignite unique ring

[scenic kernel]

pretty sure one of the new nodes has the chaos ignite built in

think it replaced the chaos immune but 1 hp node

[frosty finch]

that's like at the opposite of the tree lmao

[scenic kernel]

maybe im thinking of the wrong one then

[frosty finch]

oh i'm not saying you're wrong, i'm just saying that if it's that far in the tree i'm not picking it up haha

[scenic kernel]

its just in the top right

[lyric shadow]

What’s the fire warrior build everyone keeps talking about

[scenic kernel]

im wrong actually

that node did get replaced but by something else

the new chaos ignite node is pretty early into the tree

[bold oxide]

blackflame covenant is pretty close to witch starting area yeah

its gonna be great. really fun node

[scenic kernel]

yeah im looking forward to messing around with it

pretty sure it should work with the witch chaos dot prolif spell

[bold oxide]

right now im planning on blood mage taking covenant and using burden of shadow staff. dunno what skill yet tho lol but any fire skill really should work

i dont know if contagion will spread those ignites cause contagion specifies chaos dots doesnt it? the ignite is still an ignite. it just gets contributed to by your chaos damage now

[scenic kernel]

lemme check the specific wording

contagion does specify chaos damage, and the new node makes ignite deal chaos damage

oooh i forgot that contagion will spread via corpse explosion too

[bold oxide]

i just checked it too and i think it actually might work

dunno tho so not counting on anything until i can actually log in and try

[scenic kernel]

yeah i guess it depends on how exactly contagion checks which debuffs should be spread

still, i know what i want to check out first at least

also might be good with the new snap

[bold oxide]

new snap is gonna be sick

[scenic kernel]

yeah the new infusions look awesome too

never played much of anything other than fire sorc, and i really want to try out fire infused comet

[bold oxide]

when taking blackflame, it makes inc fire damage pointless right? i wonder if they will adjust the ignite nodes to play better with blackflame. cause a lot of the ignite nodes on the tree have fire damage included in them

[scenic kernel]

im trying to remember how exactly damage conversion works

been a while since i looked into it

[dreamy bridge]

yes, converting 100% to chaos happens before increases, so increased fire does nothing

[scenic kernel]

yeah thats a good point then

[scarlet sandal]

There's a video explaining it a bit

[scenic kernel]

oh cool, thanks

[bold oxide]

thought so. here's hoping the ignite nodes got some changes. they probably didnt. but i can hope lol

[scenic kernel]

they're probably gonna change the blackflame amethyst ring to something that'll help scale damage

[noble token]

does the warbringer warcry corpse explosion deal unscaleable damage? or is it affected by % inc phys on the tree

[noble token]

keystones dont usually get tailored passive tree changes, but there are a couple of ignite nodes without fire damage now and perhaps theyll add some more. dont count on the tree being made to fit blackflame though

if im not wrong, there are 3 branches of fire clusters that only make you take 1-2 inc fire nodes

[violet yarrow]

It doesn't spread with the Blackflame unique ring now, so I would say it would be the same with the keystone

[hoary bolt]

that's because ignite is not a chaos DoT

no matter what damage type it deals

[violet yarrow]

yeah

[fathom notch]

As someone who skipped 0.2 and didn’t fight any bosses in 0.1, are there any “safe” starters to play? Prefer melee.

[eternal pilot]

Yeah all of them are probably ranged tho

[fathom notch]

Eh. It’s fine if it’s not melee

Just preference lol

[eternal pilot]

Just take any deadeye build

[timid aurora]

Can we DW shields for shield charge builds?

Thinking about doing shield charge build .3

[fathom notch]

Isn’t the benefit of shield skills is having a stat stick in main hand

[timid aurora]

Dunno never did any shield build

[alpine parrot]

hey, is blackflame covnenat only spell fire dmg to chaos, or all fire dmg to chaos?

[timid aurora]

.3 I'm thinking of rolling shield charge build of some type

[eternal pilot]

Shields are Off-hand only

[gray ferry]

Hi, is there a way to scale Lich's Rupture the Soul?

[pliant edge]

Fire Spells only

[static granite]

Hello, I was thinking about starting with a companion build and I had two questions.

1. If I use a 21 lvl 20% quality gem to tame a Beast, will it retain the level and quality after taming it?
2. I see two types of Prism of Belief, one with "Companion {0}" and another one with "Tamed Companion". Which one works for the beast Companions?

[dawn spire]

1. Yes
2. Idk

[dense socket]

Will toxic growth with 100% poison chance be able to basically replicate a toxic rain type skill?

[lone topaz]

do we know if the reworked passive tree will be revealed before the patch so that people that want to plan a build can do that?

[dawn spire]

Similarities to toxic rain:
-Rain skill
-Chaos damage
-Uses a bow

Differences:
-Does not have a chaos damage over time component aside from poison
-Need to poison the pods to make them detonate, unlike toxic rain

[dawn spire]

It usually is released in the form of a json file for people to use to update their trees (maxroll, pob, etc)

Before the patch

Hard to say how long before

[lone topaz]

alright thanks for the quick answer!

[dense socket]

wouldnt it be able to trigger itself if it had the 100% poison chance?

[native surge]

Minion is a really safe starter

Just focus on dodging and the mechanics

The boss will die on its own

[dawn spire]

Yes. I thought "toxic rain type skill" implied a stacking chaos damage over time, which toxic growth does not have.

[native surge]

Minion is getting giga buffed also

Like it’s gonna be sooooo nice

If I wasn’t a recovering minion addict I’d be rolling witch all day every day

[dawn spire]

Yeah not needing accuracy seems kinda nuts. And them sprinting with you.. Mmmm...

[native surge]

Yeah and the support gem changes

[dense socket]

just trying to get as close as possible tbh, favorite skill in poe1, wish they just re-implemeneted the same skill :/

[native surge]

And the weapon swap changes

Both are so nice for minion builds

Usually you curse swap for dps now it’s instant

It’s gonna be so nice

Minion players are blessed this patch imo

[dawn spire]

Lightning rod + orb of storms was pretty close before the orb of storms nerf.

But yeah, toxic growth seems the closest now. I can't think of any other skill where you spam a spot and it just ramps damage

[fleet blaze]

bleed frenzy snipe spiral arrow. yes or no?

[willow elm]

Toxic growth will probably have the same limit of 6-8 pods

[hearty whale]

Whats the Mod called on Gloves for additional Fire Damage for Spells? 😄

[atomic halo]

flat to spells?

that doesnt exist anywhere, and definetly not on gloves

no idea what mod you're referring to

[hearty whale]

obv I have no idea lol. Whats the counterpart to adds # # to attacks for spells then?

[atomic halo]

there is no counterpart

you can't get flat to spells

i guess + level to all spell skills etc.

is indirectly flat

[hearty whale]

and equal? something that increases my spell damage on Gloves

[atomic halo]

you can check poe2db yourself

you can get crit damage bonus i guess

some of the socketables are quite strong

or a unique like doedre's

[hearty whale]

or someone helps me here that knows it, otherwise this channel would be useless lol

[atomic halo]

this channel is not a glorified google search.

if there is something you can check for yourself, and are fully capable of doing so, do it.

[hearty whale]

If you cant help, why answer? like srsly?

Why is this "community" so stubborn?

[atomic halo]

if you checked first, and saw nothing, then asking here is reasonable.

never checking first and asking here is just lazy.

[hearty whale]

A new Player opens this. Tell them to check for Glove Mods

Jeez

[atomic halo]

if you can't do that, i can help you do that.

also, i did answer your question

and list possible good modifiers on gloves

[atomic halo]

so i dont know which part of helping i failed to fulfil here

[hearty whale]

I dont even know what Gloves are suited for Sorcs for example. I could just guess

This Game is hating new players enough already

[atomic halo]

im literally just encouraging you to try to figure stuff out for yourself

if you dont want to okay

i did list stuff that i thought of that was useful

[hearty whale]

What am I looking for on the db?

Or rather, what should I look for

[atomic halo]

you look at all the modifiers, evaluate if they're useful or not

[hearty whale]

Ive opened the Gloves that I just got, thinking they're for Sorcs

[atomic halo]

also, there's no such thing as "for sorcs"

a sorc build could be anything or do anything

one pair of gloves could be bis for one sorc and useless for another

[hearty whale]

I've opened these for example. What am I looking for exactly, if I want to know what mods it can have?

[hearty whale]

I know

I know I can wear Gloves with high hp etc

right now I'm looking for damage

[atomic halo]

click modifiers at the top

then find "gloves (int)"

then those are all the modifiers that can roll on int gloves

like the jewelled gloves

[hearty whale]

Oh so I dont specifically look for the jewelled gloves then, right?

[atomic halo]

all int gloves have the same modpool

so yeah, you dont look for specifically jewelled gloves

anyway, once you click gloves (int), you can plainly see that most the mods (at least, explicits) are totally useless for casters (assuming you're a caster), at least for damage

only crit damage bonus will be useful but only if you're going crit

[verbal moon]

yea , its like minecraft enchanted sword

you dont look for the Diamond sword , you would look for what enhancement a sword could have

[hearty whale]

makes sense thx

[atomic halo]

then there are the socketables, there are some strong ones like curse magnitude etc.

[hearty whale]

these are the "mods mods". Socketable are what exactly?

[atomic halo]

rune/talisman/soul core effects

[hearty whale]

good

[atomic halo]

yeah

[hearty whale]

so I'm basically looking for HP or mana on Gloves since I cant ereally find anything for skills ig

this makes much more sense now to me

thank you kindly

[atomic halo]

and res/es/attributes can be also useful

they dont give damage of course

but can free up other mod slots that do give damage

which is indirectly beneficial

[hearty whale]

yea I figured capping all res to 75% and above is important

is there a way of finding mod XY on db faster, instead of clicking on every item?

[stuck perch]

I've seen a couple people say that the instant weapon swap makes the +24 weapon swap passives WH ascendancy appealing. But they never give an example/reason why. Could someone give me a basic idea/example of how a WH crossbow user would utilize a weapon swap to great advantage? And how 24 additional weapon swap points is "strong"?

[hearty whale]

just as an example. I think it tellsm e theres 1 Ring that can have this mod, but which one exactly? Is there a way to find this out by simply searching or do I have to click through Ruby, Emerald etc

[north talon]

I mean it is appealing because you can fully scale two builds in one

[atomic halo]

if it says ring, all rings can roll it as all rings have the same modpool

[hearty whale]

oh okay thanks

[stuck perch]

Sure, but you can only attack with one build at a time. So either the swap is equally powerful, or one is stronger than the other, why use both?

[atomic halo]

basically combo stuff

for exmaple, you have 1 setup with freeze buildup, another setup with freeze payoff

[north talon]

I mean youbcan get huge value behind more than 1 attack

[atomic halo]

first swap freezes enemies much more easily but doesnt deal as much damage, second is bad at freezing but deals much more damage

that's just a basic example

[north talon]

Easiest think to think is scaling both grenades and crossbow, or something like balista + direct use skills

There is power there to be accessed

I used weapon swap on warrier to scale clear and bossing with different skill setups for large gains

[quiet forge]

50 pts of variance is pretty much enough to fully enable an entire off-hand

off-hands themselves are massively buffed (no more annoying swap time)

[north talon]

That was with only 24 points, 48 points is A LOT

[quiet forge]

Do you even take 48 pts of damage on a typical tree?

[north talon]

It is hard to point to a specific benifit though since it is honesty really flexible how you leverage it

Weapon swap in general is very under explored by most players so far

[stuck perch]

I guess I shouldn't consider starting with that then since I've never even used crossbows or grenades yet. Maybe I should wait to see some use case examples as people explore it more.

[dawn spire]

I can't think of one for crossbows, but a build that utilizes two elemental spell setups would benefit greatly. A staff for cold and a staff for lightning, for example, would let you get cold infusions to juice spark.

For crossbows, I guess you could have one with insane grenade stats and a grenade tree, then swap to another tree/weapon that's dedicated to bolt damage

With 48 points you could even just do something as simple as doing a crossbow skill and spending 48 points traveling to curse nodes to juice literally any curse you want.

[uncut compass]

Thanks

[dawn spire]

Personally I recommend chronomancer. Temporal rift is very strong defensively and the new sands of time sounds pretty nice with dark effigy. Though lich is definitely very good as well.

The recoup node is also very strong with investment

And the cooldown nodes enables some cool stuff where you put cooldown supports on your skills, though since we can only use one of each active gem in 0.3, that loses a lot of utility imo

[eternal pilot]

I think the main issue is that alot of the good passive nodes are to far apart to ever really utilize weapon swaping. There is some really niche cases ofcourse where its been used. Like for the strength part of the tree I just dont ever see it being usable?

[tardy gust]

So, Spear still the go to weapon, yeah?

[lucid pawn]

Depends on which playstyle you want?

[tardy gust]

I mean mostly for what the most played leauge start weapon will be

[lucid pawn]

Unarmed. Barehands monk is going to attract a lot of interest.

[tardy gust]

Oh right, Hollow palm

[lucid pawn]

Maybe bows, for all the people who saw that deadeye was strong this league and then saw that it got buffs.

[tardy gust]

Yeah, I wanna throw hands with the Arbiter

Ig with the hollowpalm changes, it'll be mostly ES or EVA being the best things to craft and sell

[dawn spire]

Essence drain+Contagion looking pretty hot. Only got buffed and it was great for the campaign in 0.2

Lost some power with the change to only allow one of each active gem though

[lucid pawn]

so... I've been thinking lich minion plus wither aura plus maybe despair? Does that work as well as it seems like it would?

[weak mauve]

question for Flicker: How often do you get hit during a chain? Often enough to keep thorns passives up?

[native surge]

They need to add grenade nodes hopefully to make this worth

As is there’s like

10-15 grenades points

But I’m sure lots are coming

Right now weapons swap is r good in a curse setup for example

[tardy gust]

I saw Fangs of Frost on Ben's Stream, the clear you can get with it is actually nuts. And now that you can have the same support on multiple skills makes it better

Ill either do that, or explosive arrow/gas arrow convert into chaos

If you can double convert, Galvanized + Herald of Thunder -> Fire + Herald of Ash -> Chaos Damage

[indigo dove]

Is it possible to do unarmed + flicker strike + deadeye mark buff + frenzy to power charge conversion?

[tardy gust]

Should be

Thats mostly what we did for flicker to get around the no generate power charge thing

[lucid pawn]

So... endure harges. What are the good ways to generate those? How hard is it to generate a bunh of those?

[faint current]

🥺 Hiii, I could some help please.

I tried a build and it's not very strong during leveling up but I enjoyed the aesthetic a lot because it's an ice mage. But dumb me had to go and check the patch notes and ruin it for myself because one of the spells I'm using is getting changed so idk if it will work anymore for leveling up the same way on Friday.

I was playing the Witch and was going to evolve into a Vampire Princess. I using frost bomb for the first act and then Frost Bolt and Cold Snap in act 2 (i made it to level 30 yesterday).

I'll show you the link where I found the end-game and leveling up build:

Leveling (It says Sorc but it's also editted for Witch): https://www.poe-vault.com/poe2/sorceress/chronomancer/sorceress-frostbolt-leveling?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=FuAH93pJimo

Endgame: https://www.poe-vault.com/poe2/witch/blood-mage/blood-mage-frostbolt-build

Cold Snap: Has been reworked, and renamed to Snap. It can now be used on any Orb spell or any frozen, shocked or ignited enemy, causing an explosion of the corresponding damage type and creating a remnant of the corresponding type from enemies. This explosion can chain react to a limited extent from enemies hit that are affected by the same ailment. Now deals 48-540 to 72-810 Cold Damage, 2-27 to 46-512 Lightning Damage, or 17-192 to 26-288 Fire Damage at Gem levels 5–20 (previously 70-670 to 105-1005 Cold Damage). Quality now grants 0-10% chance to spawn an additional remnant (previously 0-20% chance to not consume freeze).

Is this pretty ice build cooked or is there still a chance I can play it?

[frigid hill]

nobody knows until we have more information

[lucid pawn]

Pretty sure that it does the same stuff it did before, jsut now on all three elements.

[violet yarrow]

Does anyone know for a skill with multiple projectiles, does it calculate crit for each projectile?

[frigid hill]

but personally one of the builds I'm going to try is Frostbolt Scattershot Unleash + Snap Unleash

[lucid pawn]

So if you only hae old, and you dont' do anything other than old, it shoudl still work with old.

[faint current]

But frost bolt is a bolt and not an orb?

and the new thingy says used on any orb spell

[lucid pawn]

So you were old snapping on the bolt itself?

[frigid hill]

hmm yea u might be right

[faint current]

yea

[lucid pawn]

You might hae to hange it up a bit, then. You shoudl be able to run something like your old build, though.

[faint current]

thats what the leveling up guide said and showed

[atomic halo]

crit is usually per skill use

[faint current]

In the endgame video it doesn't use cold snap anymore

but for leveling up I needed it

[lucid pawn]

Maybe dig up frost orb? Presumably there will be one.

[violet yarrow]

thanks!

[frigid hill]

chances are you can run Frost Bolt Scattershot Unleash + Ice Nova Unleash and then Snap Unleash on frozen mobs

[faint current]

I need to call Jonathan and tell him about my build 😭

[frigid hill]

but sounds worse, now im sad

[lucid pawn]

Builds are goign to hae to hange regardless. New legue, new builds.

...but "lih who throws around a bunh of old damage and uses snap" should still be iable.

[faint current]

My little Elsa build hopefully, some how, randomly becomes better on Friday. It was not even strong but just pretty and Jonathan said, I'm about to end this girl's whole build!

[dawn spire]

If you're only snapping an enemy with one elemental ailment (freeze) it will do about 20% less damage than before at gem level 20

But if you were playing blood mage you got hella buffed so you'll probably be fine

Frostbolt change might play a part too

[faint current]

Hiii Byron! I read the blood mage stuff and things but idk how exactly I was buffed. My smooth brain just read it and saw things were renamed and new effects but how did I become stronger?

[dawn spire]

You got two extra ascendancy points

[faint current]

oh nooo, I didn't even read frost bolt change yet 🪦 .

[dawn spire]

Sanguimancy is free in 0.3

So your first ascendancy gets you sanguimancy plus another notable

[faint current]

is that a big deal?

[dawn spire]

Incredibly

[faint current]

oh 🤭

[dawn spire]

33% more power from your ascendancy

[faint current]

i know the word more in this game is a powerful word

[dawn spire]

Depending on your build, that sounds nuts

[faint current]

I like the word more

[dawn spire]

You basically go from 3 notables + sanguimancy to 4 + sanguimancy. And sanguimancy can be considered a drawback at times, so it might be more than 33% for any given build

But you get a free extra notable ascendancy skill

And sanguimancy also got buffed so you don't need to crit to spawn life remnants

[tardy gust]

Is there a way to double convert? There should be, right?

[dawn spire]

Not in poe2

[tardy gust]

Damn

[dawn spire]

Conversions only ever happen once

[tardy gust]

Cause I wanted to do Lightning -> Fire -> Chaos

[dawn spire]

In the same step as "added as" iirc

[hearty whale]

what am I doing wrong here, that poetrade doesnt show me Gloves with chosen stats?

[tardy gust]

Put gloves in type, not the search bar

[hidden siren]

just do item category

not search bar

[tardy gust]

Item cat sorry

The search bar is for searching specific bases

[hearty whale]

ohhhh right i forgot. Thanks guys

There needs to be a study book for PoE lol

[faint current]

Thank you Byron

[static plinth]

Okay i know Unearth is dog

BUT

Isnt the fact it can get +9 levels from your weapons and another +2 from your helmet because of it's unique position as a Minion Spell kinda nice

[feral sky]

What are some good 2man group syngergies? Is it worth going full support or some hybrid version?

[hearty whale]

does this count to the initial Projectile or to those after it aswell? Fireball for instance fires 1 Proj by standard, could fire 2 now. Does this Trigger "only" once?

[lyric shadow]

What do yall think the best warrior ascendancy will be for the fire warrior build

[sharp thorn]

Any. None of them have specifically fire damage nodes.

Titan have better attack features I guess cause it can improve small passive nodes.

[lyric shadow]

Okay

I’m just trying to theory craft and make sure I’ve got kind of a rough idea

[proven rapids]

When you summon a totem when having an existing totem, does it kill the first totem?

(Supposing you have reached your totem limit)

[dawn spire]

Yes

[dawn spire]

I recommend coming up with a build concept or goal and then deciding from there what ascendancy fits it best. It might not even end up being a warrior ascendancy (unless your concept is "warrior that hits things and is also on fire")

[velvet trout]

Y'all think a quarterstaff ritualist build could be viable? Like bleed/daze/vaulting leap/blood boil etc type deal? Would do Spear but playing on the couch & rake feels really awkward on controller.

[dawn spire]

I don't see why not. But I also don't see why it would be viable, either. We know basically nothing. I also don't know how you define "viable"

I think we're getting thrown into a world where almost everything will be better than it was before

[velvet trout]

Fair enough. Was thinking anywhere above trash but below meta 😛

[dawn spire]

I mean anything can be super strong if you throw enough currency and gear at it

[velvet trout]

Gotcha. Thanks!

[timid aurora]

Any demon form builds for s3? Or dead spec

[dawn spire]

We don't know the passive tree and we don't know the gems. The meta is entirely unknown at this time. Anyone who claims a build is dead or good at this point is trying to sell you something

[haughty wadi]

hey thanks for the help with the numbers

why was it nerfed thuogh? i checked poeninja and found 0.1% playrate

[merry scarab]

does anyone know if this combo works?

[atomic halo]

you need to channel 1 less full second

[merry scarab]

if it does it would be 150% MORE bleed magnitude and 180 base phys

[atomic halo]

so it's just shifting the amt of time you need to channel down without buffing the damage

[glad spruce]

does we know yet if those archon forms will affect the tags on a spell? like if i become a fire archon, does bonestorm suddenly get the fire tag and gets extra lvls if i have +fire skill lvl on my gear?

[haughty wadi]

it's nerfed by 13% from those numbers

[atomic halo]

the dps is similar

[haughty wadi]

i'd just assumed an unplayed skill would be strictly getting buffed not a sidegrade

[atomic halo]

yeah

guess ggg thinks its better than it really is

or we're just not using it right

[haughty wadi]

do you think it's a "ggg nerfing warrior" thing or you think there's actually some unexplored things

i might start this if there's something to discover

[glad spruce]

i dunno, ive seen some math on the new armour applying to elemental damage. They seem to have changed alot of the max resist notables in the warrior side of the tree to that new stat... which is a net loss for being tanky for big hits...

[haughty wadi]

while it does look grim, we're just missing too much info

[hearty whale]

can anyone tell me why this doesnt trigger?

while this does?

[gray ferry]

Hello, is there a way to give minions the Onslaught buff? Or are there other ways to boost minion move speed?

[uncut bay]

wrong league. it says standard

[hearty whale]

wasnt wrong league, was correct one. Was using wrong search type or rather i used the specific search

[uncut bay]

if one can trigger so can the other. just know what projectile number gets increased

[hearty whale]

talking about Fireball here, but the initial Fireball cast never triggers a second projectile

is there a way to find out which cast is affected?

it only tells me of the support gem, not from the Passives

[uncut bay]

it's a chance to cast projectiles, don't expecit it in the tooltip

it adds projectiles to the primary projectile of fireball

[hearty whale]

its just so weird. I get 20% chance from the support gem, 20% form the passive currently. The Support Gem triggers way more often than the Passive does. Wasted points?

If I take the Wildshards Support off, i get 3 projectiles.

It seems you cant combine the Passives with the Support Gem which is out of my mind

[uncut bay]

haven't tried it myself, should work on paper

[hearty whale]

thats what I thought. It sounded cool

But you either get the circle or nothing

it also doesnt say anything about not working with anything else or not being stackable etc

[haughty wadi]

do u think they might proc together for a total of 11 projectiles so u never see the 3 projecitle proc

[weak mauve]

just tested it, works fine for me. Fireball + Wildshards + Psychic Fragments. Sometimes get the circle, sometimes get +2 proj. Was a bit hard to tell at first for the +2, easier to tell once i started casting close to me so the angle was higher

[bitter ore]

how high can you get gem quality? 23% from corruption, there's that new 5% quality node on the tree... anything else?

• 16% on gemling

[dawn spire]

Sprinting makes minions move faster, too.

[dawn spire]

I think they're adding a lineage support that adds quality

[gray ferry]

oh that's going to be quite nice, ty

[safe kernel]

If I wanted to play a pure energy shield Monk, would I choose the Invoker ascendancy? Also, regardless of ascendancy, I assume a martial artist unarmed build will be viable, correct?

[bitter ore]

is burning an elemental ailmnet for hte purposes of consuming an ignite?

no, right?

[faint current]

If an enemy has a snowflake icon under their hp bar on the right bottom, what does it mean?

[bitter ore]

resistant to cold

if it turns red then that resist is negative

if i'm remembering correctly

[faint current]

no wonder they are so tanky because I use ice magic 🥺

[bitter ore]

exposure and curses

[cloud pebble]

Anyone planning on trying out the new Swarm Aura thing?

I'm just always trying to get as close to a Vampire Survivors build as possible tbh

[stark kestrel]

I'll try it but I'm not expecting much damage, mostly as a supporting skill. Maybe consume impales from bonestorm?

[cloud pebble]

The Swarm?

[stark kestrel]

yeah

[cloud pebble]

How so? I haven't played Impale or Bonestorm or Minions yet really hehe

[stark kestrel]

If you hit a mob with bonestorm it leaves an impale on the minion that stores some of the damage. HIt it with something else (or minions) and you consume the impale.

[fathom notch]

Is hollow palm expected to be weak early or strong? Vs high cap/low cap? Or is it too early to tell even with patch notes out?

[bitter ore]

it says nearby so might be more defensive

on the swarm skill

[cloud pebble]

Yeahhh

Re-reading it the 2nd and 3rd time I have less hope it will be Righteous Bug Fire

I'm just coping and hoping for a good replacement to Whirling Slash 🙁

[stark kestrel]

I think its mostly intended as an alternative to raging spirits.

[bitter ore]

need numbers but could be cool

[stark kestrel]

but its kinda weird

[bitter ore]

i wondered about it with hte tactician's allies use 25% of your weapon damage

but that might be too memey

[faint current]

2 more questions. 1. Where can I check items come from (a specific unique ring I'm trying to see where it's from) 2. Is there an item like in the old game that rerolls the implicit stat #-#?

I just realized im not in the general chat 🤧

[static torrent]

Divine Orbs reroll both implicit and explicit mods, and you'd generally go to poe2wiki.net to check individual Uniques like that, though most are just global drops.

[faint current]

oh no, Divine orbs are a very premium currency

I cannot afford to spend them so haphazardly to reroll an implicit stat 🥺

[bold oxide]

if its anything like palm in poe1, its great for leveling but then falls off pretty quickly in endgame

[acoustic gale]

based on the passive description it's the opposite in poe2 where its incredibly mediocre early game but great in endgame

since it scales off your armours ev/es

[hidden siren]

feel like its just a shittier version of playing with a quarterstaff

[acoustic gale]

yeah i mean time will tell if its actually good or not

[static plinth]

I think HPT is gonna be mid for campaign, great for maps, but falls off once you can afford insane quarterstaves

[bold oxide]

is there any functional difference between something like "Skills gain 1% of Damage as Chaos Damage" (such as on Burden of Shadow) compared to "Gain x% of Damage as Extra (Element) Damage" (Essence of the Mountain passive node). one has the Extra term and the other does not

[teal dock]

Wondering about how Blackflame covenant affects “burning” enemies
As in, would nodes to affect hit damage against burning enemies not work with blackflame lol

[uncut bay]

much fewer enemies have resistance to chaos than to elements. you can buff the chaos damage with wither, can't with elemental damage

but elemental damage means ailments

maybe easier herald procs or cast on skills

[uncut bay]

increases to elemental and fire damage buff your damage, increases to chaos damage do not. ignite magnitude buffs your damage

wither buffs your damage

aand so does despair

[teal dock]

Wait, chaos damage nodes don’t boost the damage of chaos fire?

[uncut bay]

damage is calculated before it is converted

[teal dock]

I mean that makes it easier for my warrior

[uncut bay]

so you can't increase chaos damage

and damage against burning enemies works too

[teal dock]

That’s good to know! Thank you. I’m excited for a chaos damage warrior because I made one on launch lol

[stark kestrel]

Damage conversion is before increases in POE 2

[uncut bay]

after*

[bold oxide]

i was asking in regards to the conversion. i know gain as extra happens after conversion, but was wondering about that stat line on the burden of shadow staff

[scarlet sandal]

Wait..

[stark kestrel]

After?

first conversion, then damage multipliers

from wiki

[scarlet sandal]

Someone did it with original sin im assuming its the same with blackflame covenant. Only chaos modifiers will affect it not fire

Unless its ignite magnitude

[stark kestrel]

yeah exactly

I'm pretty sure its different in POE 1.

[scarlet sandal]

I believe i could be wrong on ignite part i cant remember what the node says exactly

[humble dove]

yes damage conversion is handled differently in PoE1

[uncut bay]

I don't see that it says before here. but I am 100% sure it's after because I know incinerate builds very well, you stack increased elemental and increased fire damage, but your damage is converted to chaos in the end

if it was converted before then all of the increased fire damage passives and mods wouldn't work

[static torrent]

It's before

[stark kestrel]

Not sure what to tell you Creo, its conversion than increases.

[teal dock]

👌

[uncut bay]

why do increased fire damage passives and mods affect chaos damage then?

[static torrent]

What build is it exactly, and do they use Blackflame?

[uncut bay]

yes. incinerate

[humble dove]

Blackflame ring isnt conversion

[scarlet sandal]

Blackflame ring and black flame covenant are different

[static torrent]

Blackflame makes enemies take Chaos Damage instead of Fire from Ignites, it does not convert the damage.

[uncut bay]

my bad, you are right

[teal dock]

Does it still count as burning I wonder

[uncut bay]

I thought the ring did the same thing

[scarlet sandal]

Ones a conversion the other is not. Blackflame ring wither, chaos resistance, fire damage. Blackflame covenant is chaos damage, wither affect, chaos resistance, no fire damage

[uncut bay]

I had to read the keystone description again

[stark kestrel]

I do wonder if blackflame convenant means added chaos damage contributes to ignite magnitude

[humble dove]

It's the reason I am hoping Blackflame Covenant will allow you to spread ignite with Contagion, because Blackflame ring isn't conversion but the keystone should be. I do not expect it will, but it might.

[teal dock]

👀

[cloud pebble]

the Blackflame ring does still deal ignite and burning damage, that's the crux of the Whirling Slash build

[gaunt spoke]

do you guys think hexblast might be viable next patch?

[teal dock]

I’m going deep into the covenant keystone when patch drops on my warrior

[cloud pebble]

edit: less viable with Lich sadly

[bold oxide]

i think it might too and it would be really cool if it does

[scarlet sandal]

If it can be spread w ignite that'd be insane lol

[humble dove]

why warrior?

[teal dock]

It’s something I’ve always wanted to do since poe 1

[stark kestrel]

I doubt perma curse works with hexblast. As it still needs half duration left of curse to be able to cast it.

[cloud pebble]

Oh wait, duh, you're right lol. I forgot how Hexblast works

[teal dock]

Chaos damage is cool and maces are cool 😅
And I wanna use the smith of Kitava

[humble dove]

Blackflame Covenant only affects Fire Spells

[teal dock]

It says skills

[humble dove]

the tooltip in the video was Fire Spells, and is most likely more accurate than the notes

[teal dock]

Oh

Damn

[scarlet sandal]

I just reread black flame covenant im going to say yes about contagion

[humble dove]

if it IS all fire skills, that would be crazy, but that is probably not the case.

[stark kestrel]

I really hope gained as chaos damage counts towards the ignite. I'd love to dump a giant ignite with dark defiler.

[cloud pebble]

"Added a new Keystone Passive Skill to the north-west of the Witch/Sorceress starting location: Blackflame Covenant. This Keystone converts Fire Damage to Chaos Damage, with this damage contributing to ignite chance and magnitude, and ignites inflicted with Fire Skills dealing Chaos Damage."

[gaunt spoke]

i love lich and curse auras its a shame how shitty it is in 2 🙁

[cloud pebble]

yup 🙁

[stark kestrel]

Lich is strong, hexblast is shit.

[gaunt spoke]

yes i would go lich for curse builds though and curses arent as good in 2

[cloud pebble]

Lich should be the Hexblast ascendancy you would think. Why would you make the curse lady incompatible with the one curse blast

[humble dove]

Wording from the video:

Fire Spells Convert 100% of Fire Damage to Chaos Damage.
Chaos Damage from Fire Spells Contributes to Ignite chance and Magnitude.
Ignite inflicted with Fire Spells deals Chaos Damage instead of Fire Damage.

[teal dock]

I do hope this is the case, poison perfect strike sounds fun

[gaunt spoke]

exactly my point
there is too little chaos spells in game for now no real payoff

[stark kestrel]

I was thinking purple molten blast would be fun.

[cloud pebble]

Hmmm, still ambiguous. Knowing Johnathan, they can't exactly get their story straight all the time lmao

[stark kestrel]

Yeah but lich is strong with non chaos spells as well

[cloud pebble]

"I don't 100% remember what we ended up deciding on"
-Johnathan parable

[stark kestrel]

could also easily have been changed since the reveal

[cloud pebble]

It's hilarious, I love him

[north talon]

Debating on if Blackbraid will be worth investigating next patch... I think I could hit 20k, maybe 25k armor with it. Probably resulting in maybe 200-250% armor to elemental. If stacked with Goregirdle to apply 200% armor while defending that is an effective 400-500% armor applied to elemental damage.

That sounds okay, though I'd be stuck at max 50% PDR, but at that low of armor maybe that is fine (effective 40-50k armor)

[stark kestrel]

We'll see on launch day

[humble dove]

If it is all fire skills, that would be crazy. I am expecting only spells though until we see the actual tree.

same as im not expecting it to work with contagion until we see it proven in game

basically not planning my build around ambiguity

[stark kestrel]

I think blackflame with contagion is very hopeful indeed

[cloud pebble]

I'm still coping that Magma Blast will be good, so I hope it's all skills

Wouldn't Blackflame Contagion and Herald of Ash be good together? I forget the exact HOA wording

[stark kestrel]

sounds like they removed a lot of clunky from molten blast.

[cloud pebble]

HOA is a good acronym for it, because it's supposed to be helpful but has mostly been just in the way 😛

[humble dove]

Herald of Ash is not a spell, so if it doesn't work with non-spells it won't work with Ash

[cloud pebble]

Oh it's attacks, yeah

Boo

[humble dove]

not even

er yeah the activation condition

sorry i was looking at the tags xD

but in terms of HoA being compatible with Blackflame, it won't convert its ignites to chaos unless Blackflame works with all Fire skills.

[cloud pebble]

yeah

[humble dove]

I know the wording difference was brought up to viper before the weekend, might poke them if they're around later and see if anything came of it. I imagine they would have changed the patch notes but I'm sure it's been a busy week haha.

[abstract grove]

can someone explain exactly how pyromantic pact works for infernalist?
you're basically trying to keep the bar around 50-80% full right? are you stacking mana? is there a way to "vent" heat?

[humble dove]

I'm very excited to play around with Blackflame Covenant either way, I'll be going for Chonk to play with volatility scaling

[abstract grove]

& do you just die if you reach 100% infernal flame? or it goes through resists

[bold oxide]

im also gunning for blackflame covenant but im gonna be on blood mage

[cloud pebble]

Blackflame will also still be damn good with Blackflame Covenant no? 50% Magnitude Of Ignite is still bonkers

[bold oxide]

but not sure if i wanna do burden of shadow or a rathpith globe setup

[untold glen]

I’m thinking of starting the league with a Christmas blood mage (bleed/poison) and I’m trying to figure out what skill to use.

This season I used rake, lightning spear because of course I did, but next season I’m actually thinking I’ll put lights on the Christmas tree and use fire spells to ignite too. Flamewall, then fireball at the start then incinerate later on.

Other thought was going lightning arrow.

Any ideas?

[gaunt spoke]

does pob 2 already have the new tree?
i am planning but not sure if i am looking at the right tree

[humble dove]

it does not, GGG doesn't release the tree early

[merry scarab]

i swear there was a photo of the new tree

does anyone have it?

i swear i saw it in general yesterday

[normal torrent]

What kind of builds are going to be good for rarity/MF in the upcoming patch you think?

[humble dove]

people have a stitched together version somewhere floating around yeah, but you can really only infer the types of nodes but not what they actually do.

[merry scarab]

im trying to find out for this

[humble dove]

found it

that keystone appears to be in the same place

northwest of witch/sorc

appears to have more minion nodes surrounding it

[merry scarab]

yeah and the cluster on the left got moved farther away huh

yeah im not doing it for minion

im doing it for the bleed magnitude

[humble dove]

the diamond one? doesn't look further away, just rotated a little bit

[merry scarab]

it already doesnt fit

im talking about the left one

[humble dove]

oh you meant the one on the right

[merry scarab]

i mean the right one

yeah damn

[humble dove]

yeah that one still wont fit

[abstract grove]

to survive in demonflame, is life recoup the way to go? or life regen? or do you need both?

[teal dock]

If Blackflame is spells only, I’ll just go Chayula Monk with maces

[merry scarab]

its not as good as the one on the left but still

[humble dove]

hey more notables is more notables

[merry scarab]

hopefully on the bottom tree i get more phys attack or bleed nodes man

[humble dove]

bottom did get quite a few more nodes, I'm not sure about bleed though

[teal dock]

Shame Chayula lost the chaos damage based on darkness but perma purple flames is nice

[humble dove]

the Str/Int section of the tree is still pretty bare though compared to all the new nodes. Hopefully when we get Druid/Templar it'll get some love.

[cyan plinth]

Which one for a Merc Crossbow build? Stun Threshold, Ailment Threshold, or Mana Regen?

[merry scarab]

mana for bolts no?

[rugged sand]

Alright pals, what builds are we feeling

[humble dove]

I'm feeling Blackflame Covenant Chonk caster. Will it be good? Only time will tell, but I played a Sorc cosplaying a Monk in 0.1 (flickerstrike chronomancer) so I'm gonna play a Monk cosplaying a Sorc in 0.3

[rugged sand]

I had a random want to play Ed even though I'm sure it's poopy

But there's no vortex so

[bold oxide]

blood mage is even more cracked now. pick a spell and go blast

[abstract grove]

maybe demonflame blackstone covenant

[humble dove]

would blackstone be phys to chaos conversion

[abstract grove]

i think it's fire no

[humble dove]

(it's called blackflame thats the joke )

[bold oxide]

blackflame covenant blood mage with burden of shadow should be sweet

[abstract grove]

oh shit lmfao

blackstone is the rock's kid

blackflame didn't make the fire wall/circle purple in the trailer 🙁

[bold oxide]

or a classic rathpith setup. dont necessarily need blackflame covenant for that but could still be good

[teal dock]

If Blackflame Covenant works with fire melee, Blackflame Covenant Smith of Kitava*

If no, Mace and energy shield Monk Acolyte of Chayula

[humble dove]

the fire circle was from a mob I believe

not the sorc

[abstract grove]

oh! misleading >_>

[humble dove]

yeah it tripped me up too at first

[abstract grove]

would be weird if it was the only red fire spell

[frosty finch]

I kinda wanna play totem warrior or forge hammer warrior but i'm afraid the map clear will be doodoo

[scarlet sandal]

Blackflame covenant only works on fire spells

[teal dock]

The recent patch notes say fire skills and fire damage, which is why I’m waiting on clarification

i think it will end up being spells though

[scarlet sandal]

I've only seen this

[signal ice]

Literally joined the server just to see if there was any consensus on this

2 seconds ago

[humble dove]

Yeah that's what it was in the video, this is the wording of the patch notes:

Added a new Keystone Passive Skill to the north-west of the Witch/Sorceress starting location: Blackflame Covenant. This Keystone converts Fire Damage to Chaos Damage, with this damage contributing to ignite chance and magnitude, and ignites inflicted with Fire Skills dealing Chaos Damage.
The video is probably correct according to viper but we're waiting on if the patch notes get updated.

[static plinth]

Its honestly really good, its just piano

[humble dove]

the patch notes just sounds like it's describing the functionality though, not the actual phrasing of the keystone.

[static plinth]

I played it in 0.1 and played a bit of it in 0.2 and it keeps getting buffs

[signal ice]

Sad if true, I wanted my hammer infernalist garbage

[teal dock]

I mean I could do blackflame covenant on a weird spellblade build lol. Fire spell on hit Smith

But I’m probably just gonna do a Mace Chayula monk

[signal ice]

My idea doesn't change that much if I swap to fire spells, in fact it probably improves, but it was a nice thought

[humble dove]

Worth noting that the Ritual Cadence description in the patch notes is also worded differently from the video. I think the patch notes don't reflect the actual phrasing of the keystones in game but rather describe the functionality, so it won't be 100% accurate. That said, Blackflame Covenant should at least say spells in the patch note if it is just spells.

[teal dock]

I could aim for Original sin and a blackflame ring, but that's two ring slots lmao

[safe kernel]

If I wanted to play a pure energy shield Monk, would I choose the Invoker ascendancy? Also, regardless of ascendancy, I assume a martial artist unarmed build will be viable, correct?

[split path]

i picked mana regen for my test play and it helped a bit

[static plinth]

Invoker has Meditate which is incredible for pure ES

Chayula doesnt have anything for pure ES besides the chaos res node but youd probably just go CI then

And assuming you mean a Hollow Palm build, without evasion gear its dead on arrival

The Weapon Master Notable Passive Skill now grants 100 Passive Skill Points become Weapon Set Skill Points (previously 20). The preceding small Passive now grants 6% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate instead of Weapon Set Skill Points

WHAT THE FUCKKKK

I guess im playing Witchhunter fuck

[humble dove]

wait what

Woah

[native horizon]

WH login

[humble dove]

That's crazy

[static plinth]

Behold, two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS

I have no idea wtf you even do with that but i want to use it

[tulip fog]

it would enable some very juiced two-skill combo setups thats for sure

[cloud pebble]

"Player Changes
Ground effects captured by Whirlwinds now only last for 4 seconds before the Whirlwind reverts to its normal state."

NOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/my-boy-massacred-godfather-marlan-brando-look-gif-13993325

[static plinth]

This'd legit enable actual Spellblades finally

Assuming you overcome Witchhunter's starting position

[tulip fog]

yeah

or you could do multi-element combos

[cloud pebble]

All I can think of is if they didn't destroy Whirling Slash, Witchhunter would be godly. 1 full Attack Speed/Defense/AOE tree, 1 full Spell/Fire/Elemental/Ailment/Ignite tree

Still pretty unhinged, we just have to figure out what snapshots

[humble dove]

I think I'm pretty set on doing Blackflame Chonk caster to begin with this league, but I very much might try to do a witchhunter as a second character...

[static plinth]

Oh god yeah snapshotting huh

You could do a bonkers full damage totem build and then the other side is a shield and no nodes but defence

[cloud pebble]

That's a great idea

[static plinth]

And you ALSO get Sorcery Ward lol

[cloud pebble]

I think that's maybe going to be the best use. Totems are the only thing that snapshot that we know atm, right?

[static plinth]

Debuffs do

EDC, Ignite

[tulip fog]

man, it might be an impossible wish, but i wish they would swap places on the extra inventory bag ascendancy and the %more armor ascendancy node for titan, i wanna get the armor node but cant afford it as i am already 8 points in

[cloud pebble]

Hmmmmm EDC is interesting

[static plinth]

The extra inventory is there to make the small nodes passive 4 to obtain

They cant really make it meaningful outside of QoL

[static plinth]

Oh, you could also do like, a Forge Hammer pure damage setup then swap to a Falling Thunder pure attack speed setup

I think Falling Thunder is the quarterstaff slam without added attack time

[hidden siren]

im pretty sure that when u weapon swap nothing snapshots

[static plinth]

Some things 100% snapshot

[untold glen]

Isn’t it also somewhat dependent on power charges to get the most out of it?

[signal ice]

wow that WH thing is crazy. What are the best things to snapshot? I know, like, temporary minions do. Do totems snapshot?

[cloud pebble]

Totems and Ailments do, unless they changed that.

[static plinth]

In this scenario its just to proc Forge Hammer really really fast

[hidden siren]

im trying to find where in the q&a they mentioned that with instant weapon swapping they changed some stuff

[static plinth]

God even on the simple end of Witchhunter you can go full clear vs full single target

I wonder how viable Fanatic Bows will be now

[cloud pebble]

esp now that they confirmed that same-gear swapping will be enabled now

[signal ice]

yeah that's so rad

[hidden siren]

i was wrong they just made it better on purpose

[cloud pebble]

Do curses snapshot? Curse duration and magnitude?

[static plinth]

Yes

Thats the most basic weapon swap thing

[cloud pebble]

Ok, well Witchhunter is the Hexblast character now I think

Curse-max + Spell-max

[signal ice]

Want area on both sets at least

[cloud pebble]

Dark Effigy's projectiles are spells right?

[signal ice]

would be funny to see a wh where the sets separate at the first node and never meet again

[cloud pebble]

Challenge accepted

Ok, they gotta be adding hella totem nodes then, because there isn't thaaat much actually

And there's bound to be more fire ones in the int zone I imagine

[steady flint]

Is there any way to self ignite when not playing Infernalist?

[untold glen]

Fair. Sunder had its +0.9 second delay removed. I did some maths and a Temple/solemn/sacred maul with Attack speed on it should make it pretty speedy in comparison to 0.2 if you’re looking to stick with maces.

1H maces would work too, mjolnir late game for example.

[cloud pebble]

There's a amulet that does it I think

[steady flint]

You mean fireflower? Would that be enough?
Would only need it to ignite me once, but fireflower would be annoying because i would have to swap it out when finnished with it

[gaunt spoke]

lich + blackflame and power charges might be nice

[cyan plinth]

Smart move, my mana was basically always full til recently i have to actually pay attention to it, so it helps

[split path]

after I swapped to artillery, I was always very low on mana so I needed the help lol

[prime geyser]

Is the updated passive tree data out yet? Or not yet?

[north talon]

nope, earliest you can expect is whenever they do preload

and that is not a guarantee

[prime geyser]

Yea, I'm hopeful, but really just want to dig into it to make my own descision. Thanks!

[tulip fog]

i really hope they release the passive tree data half a day early so that we can update our POB builds

[north talon]

It has happened the last 2 patches, but it is all up to how they package the preload data

[signal ice]

What are you triggering with self-ignite?

[signal ice]

oops forgot reply

[hidden siren]

with witchhunter now u can make a separate mapping and boss build with the same weapon

[gaunt spoke]

does blackflame scale with fire support gems too? so i would actually use increased fire dmg supports? and fire exposure?

[north talon]

Conversion applies before damage bonuses so no

you would need to scale chaos damage

[gaunt spoke]

thanks for clarifying

and that means also use chaos exposure

[steady flint]

I was thinking blood mage with new Beira's that leaves ignited ground, and then picking it up with Whirling Slash.
Blood mage simply because stacking loads of hp is possible, and if it doesnt work i have 10 other ideas i wanna try with blood mage

No idea if it would even be good though

[scarlet sandal]

I think the only thing that would work is fire mastery?

[gaunt spoke]

how would you scale ignite magnitute with blackflame?
i am reading the wiki and it says you actually would scale it with increased firedamage.

[tulip fog]

you scale it with ignite magnitude nodes and raising your damage i.e. increased chaos damage

[autumn egret]

Is it possible to go fire/ignite totems? I want to go siege totems/explosive grenade and scale fire/phys damage

[drifting cedar]

you need a big single hit for ignite, fire sure

[autumn egret]

Yea I also read that they added something about if you miss your ignite or ailments the next chance is higher?

[tulip fog]

didnt they rework ignite so that you can use many small hits to build up to a ignite now? or did i misunderstand the new ignite tech?

[autumn egret]

I can't recall

Yea

[next moat]

yes, look up Flammability in the patch notes.

[scarlet sandal]

I hope its easy to get to that point.. Hopefully they didnt break it

[drifting cedar]

yes but the damage is still based on the hit which applies the ignite, not the cumulative failed fire hits

[tulip fog]

i see, good point

[autumn egret]

So fire/ignite siege totems with cast on ignite is possible?

[cloud pebble]

Hmmmmm.....Forgot about Jewel slots as a sticking point for pathing. Going to complicate Witchhunter builds.

[drifting cedar]

I don't actually know if totems gain energy for meta skills. I don't think they do? Either way, what would you cast?

[autumn egret]

More grenades 😀

[drifting cedar]

those are attacks, not spells

you don't cast attacks

[autumn egret]

Oh 😯

Only spells for cast on x?

[gaunt spoke]

thank you! so i grab all the +chaos dmg nodes and ignite magnitude for maximum ignite
since more damaging hits also increases magnitude

plus chaos support gems ofc

[drifting cedar]

Toying with a pure phys witchhunter which specs into armor break and stun as secondary, using stuff like these (if they survive)

oh man idk why discord formatted those like that, sorry

anyway, basically just go all in on armor break and stun to for a big fragmentation round or even a boneshatter

[cloud pebble]

Oh that's a great idea too. Set-up and finish.

[autumn egret]

Fire/ignite totems with cast on ignite voltaic mark

[drifting cedar]

but yeah no jewel socket node is rough

it would be nice if you could allocate it and just not put a jewel in, even

give +1 all attributes or some other token benefit while in that state

[hidden siren]

thats only if u dont make a skeleton

at least have a base tree with keystones and jewels

u dont need to use all 124 weapon points

[drifting cedar]

yeah but honestly if you dont make a skeleton is it even worth it over just a normal build

[hidden siren]

should be good with half that

[drifting cedar]

when are you going to use even half those points branching off your normal path

[hidden siren]

the ones with defenses

[drifting cedar]

so you'd set up a tank tree and a dps tree?

[hidden siren]

no

again u need to have a core and just branch out

have a bossing build and mapping one imo

take crit clusters with weapon set 1 and mapping for set 2

regardless ur going to have a core bc u wont get the ascendancy right away

[drifting cedar]

well yeah but the core is just one of your trees if you go full skeleton double tree

[hidden siren]

make sure to have ur defense nodes keystones and jewels

[cloud pebble]

I guess that's going to be the art of the Witchhunter and the barrier for entry/top level success. How to balance jewel slots with efficient tree forking.

[hidden siren]

yes

ur using weapon points to hit the nodes for ur build thats further away

[drifting cedar]

the change to 100 pts is cool but I don't know if its actually better than the previous amount in practice. at least its more freedom

[hidden siren]

it is

[north talon]

I mean it is better, but it is hard to know how much better. Lots of weapon swap changes in 0.3.0 to support this that didn't exist before as well

[hidden siren]

u can travel to the outer edge and then set 1 can go right and set 2 can branch left

ibdont think anyone is using all 124 weapon points

that would be dumb

[drifting cedar]

more excited about binding one weapon to both trees tbh

crossbow with dedicated grenade tree and dedicate bolt tree and instant swap between sounds sweet

[tulip needle]

Can't seem to get through Act 1 faster than 1:45 and I'm dying a bit on deadeye. Are there any recommendations anyone has? been struggling a bit.

[cloud pebble]

would a formation like this work or would it block you from placing a converging node?

[north talon]

you can't pick jewels

[cloud pebble]

(obviously that's not a good formation, I'm just wondering if it would work)

[cloud pebble]

Even if it is both trees coming together?

[north talon]

Nope, Sockets and Keystones have to be normal passive points

[cloud pebble]

Of course. But can converging weapon trees create a normal passive point?

[north talon]

99% sure no

[cloud pebble]

I thought so but wanted to be sure. I'll have to try it out or something.

[autumn egret]

If I'm running a companion where every hit ignites and I'm using cast on ignite, does my minion cast on ignite count for me?

[signal ice]

I'd love to see this implemented

[signal ice]

Don't think so!

[static plinth]

No

[autumn egret]

But my totems count ?

[static plinth]

Yeah

[autumn egret]

Gotcha

[static plinth]

Totmes use your skill for you, minions use their own skills

[quiet forge]

Anyone toying around with the idea of a kaom herald of ash mercenary? You can use your weapon swap points to get tons of armor break nodes and then payoff using skills like grenades or spears on the armor broken state(which you're generating with your assload of phys/fire damage & on stuns from things like flash grenade)

[autumn egret]

Are totems allies? Do they benefit from "allies gain x" tags? Looking at

[timber plover]

Any thoughts on a build that will be decently strong but plays well on console/controller?

[static plinth]

They are allies defensively but you offensively

That ascendancy node wont do anything

[lone wave]

Smith's Masterwork has me all indecisive.

[rough stirrup]

Shotgun merc

[autumn egret]

Follow up question then. Because banners boost my stats, do totems get their stats increased too? Or they scale ONLY from my weapon?

[static plinth]

They get buffed if you're inside the Banner's area

[autumn egret]

Tac totem banners league start it is!

[cyan garnet]

i want something that does super high single target damage. what kind of build should i go?

[brazen crow]

Have they posted the hollow palm scaling yet?

[willow elm]

historically monk has really easy high single target with bell and the lightning charge buff, but Deadeye with sniper's mark and Snipe looks pretty crazy

[cloud pebble]

God, they even got rid of Energy Barrier support on top of the ground effects. Incinerate Slash is 100% done 🙁

[cinder steeple]

Oh

Well I guess that gem is in my build no more

[cloud pebble]

I slept on it the whole season tbh until that build, it was honestly wild how much defensive power it had, I'm surprised it wasn't talked about more

[scarlet sandal]

For a tri ele stormweaver firestorm build what would be better.. archmage or crit?:x

[cinder steeple]

I mean it's instant ES recharge, it's good

(Instant as in it starts instantly)

(When stunned)

[charred axle]

Question: does the third edict update fix Warrior? I'm coming back to this game after a long hiatus and i'd run mostly ranged characters. Thinking of checking out the warrior possibly

[dark pulsar]

Who's gonna tell him

[next moat]

Warrior was never really broken. It's won the boss race six times in the row and it does some of the highest clear and damage at endgame. It's also very tanky if you build around Smith of Kitava (though that is getting a slight nerf in 0.3)

If your question is really "is Warrior faster and less clunky", then the answer is -- probably yes in 0.3. A bunch of skills got easier ways to scale their attack speed + we now have sprint.

[charred axle]

oh, thanks for clearing that up. I think it's just because it sounded like it had very little variety in end game meta.

[next moat]

Yeah that's a fair critique

And the current state with only have Maces for strength weapons will keep that feel around for at least one more league.

Once we get Axes we'll have more options on that side of the tree.

[charred axle]

ohhhh, maybe I should stay off warrior until they've rolled out more weapons then

[next moat]

Honestly it's going to be a great league no matter what you play, but general consensus is that Ranger is in an extremely good state. Spellcasters a bit more unknown, but they're getting big buffs.

[charred axle]

i did start EA with a sorceress and loved how she worked. might do it again and try some wild multi-elemental builds now they've removed the restrictions (even if one of the final skill tree lines is bascally "return to lightning")

[next moat]

They're definitely opening up the multi-ele doors this patch. I'm very curious how it plays!

[charred axle]

does warrior ever feel good to play in co-op though? I've seen a few of my friends run warrior builds in previous leagues and suffer in co-op due to the mob scaling

or is it too gear hungry?

[honest grail]

resonating shield clear feels very good from what I've found, and makes you very tanky due to active block being gigabuffed

you just use armour explosions and then you can battershout with fortifying cry to consume the broken armour for another explosion, then you can go back to banging your shield to trigger armour explosion again lol

I tested it recently and it felt super cosy, will be much better in 0.3 as you'll move faster, though sources of aoe on the tree are getting nerfed and accuracy might be an issue

shield charge with fortifying cry shockwaves will probably feel very good as well

[uncut bay]

if your friends play builds that clear maps similarly fast to your build then all good, if they clear it much faster then you will be kinda useless and mace builds are kinda slow

and you gotta deal tons of damage and be tanky in coop if you are not staying behind your friends back

I see people say totem builds are gonna be very strong for example, mace builds have problems with mobility and survivability mostly

[viscid sail]

as someone that hasnt really played monk.. how should i play monk/what skills to focus on/what not to play? (i tried monk before and i just felt like it was too much 1 enemy focus and not great for crowds.) but i was new to the game.

[exotic compass]

Minions 🤝 Maces

Both slow AF and compliment each other (minions allow you to cast sunder without getting hit, cosplays as the giant minion we all want to use)

[charred axle]

Yeah thanks for the feedback 🙂 my friend will be trying a flicker open palm monk build so warrior won't keep up!

[viscid sail]

cause i want to try that hand of chaluya in new season but idk if its worth it or just go warrior

[exotic compass]

Do what sounds fun we are all going in blind, chances are acolyte is still not ideal if you're unsure, you should be deadset on a few archetypes

[torpid thunder]

Is Rake and Stomping ground still viable as a leveling "combo"? It will be nerfed?

[torpid thunder]

I read it but Im not experienced enough to know if its just a description thing or a real nerf :x

[static torrent]

You cannot put Stomping Ground onto Rake anymore, as Stomping Ground requires a Travel skill, and Rake is no longer tagged as such.

[torpid thunder]

Thx a lot, I understood it was changing but didnt understood it as a nerf. RIP my leveling. Thx

[red rock]

so i have a vision of recreating a "rat runner" from d3, any thoughts on if something like this could work https://pobb.in/_gCQrCTd0DP3

prob kinda scuffed just ripped some stuff from some guides

[uncut bay]

I think you need infernalist, lich or tactician for minions

damage has to come from somewhere

[untold glen]

What are people’s thoughts on implicit wand/staff skills in 0.3.0?

They all got a 12% damage buff as far as I’m aware.

I’m sure they won’t be crazy good, but I was just trying out a witch run for next season and none blast already felt really good in the early game.

Easy investment too.

[humble dove]

I'm most interested in what the new occult bases are tbh. Hopefully some cool spells

If the buffs make them more viable to use, which they should, I might try messing around with them.

[uncut bay]

meh I doubt they are any good

but I will still try them. solar orb should be good for fire infusions

[frigid hill]

yooo "Cold Snap: Has been reworked, and renamed to Snap. It can now be used on any frozen, shocked or ignited enemy or on a Frostbolt" build is back online

[last bolt]

Can blood boil be inflicted on ice wall as though they're enemies?

[dawn spire]

Based on the tooltip for ice crystals, blood boil, and frost wall I think the answer is no. They can be damaged, but they are not enemies so they will not accrue blood boil stacks.

[last bolt]

Darn, I noticed there were some combos for using attacks that explode on enemies to stack explosions on bosses so I was wondering if you could use them as "enemies" to help kill bosses with blood boil 🤔

[dawn spire]

I can't say for sure without testing, but I doubt it works

[last bolt]

Its weird because Gathering Storm says "Releases shockwaves from enemies you dash through" and apparently that works on Frost Walls

[dawn spire]

Do you have a ritualist with the blood boil skill to test?

[last bolt]

Unfortunately not

[dawn spire]

Darn. Because now I'm completely unsure

[last bolt]

I was thinking to respec my ascendency on my old char but I'd have to clear the trial again

You can see the gathering storm version here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1QQnWlItwk

[dawn spire]

Hard to say. It depends on how they're coded. If gathering storm just procs a Shockwave from everything it damages and the tooltip just says "enemies" out of convenience, then it won't work with blood boil

Unless the ice crystals are also coincidentally coded as enemies that can receive debuffs

I guess you could try inflicting other debuffs on ice crystals and see if it works

[last bolt]

True, like a curse

I can try that

[dawn spire]

Curse, maim, pin, wither, etc

[foggy jewel]

Just saw the buff to witchhunter.
And i just can't help but think Chronomancer juste need one thing to be interesting :
A node that makes Weapon swap = full equipment swap.
To be able to build 2 ways into 1 character.
It would be in character and allow fun synergies

[last bolt]

I'm kinda interested in that, like 100 points fully into totem build and 100 points fully into selfish dps build or something

[dawn spire]

124 points*

[last bolt]

Right it's 100 extra I guess, but you'd have to kinda go back and respec them once you get that node I guess?

[dawn spire]

Yeah but that's easy

You can turn base nodes into weapon set nodes

[rough stirrup]

Yeah respecting wh will be annoying later on

[last bolt]

Oh you can conver them on the spot? Does it cost?

Doesn't seem like I can curse the walls

Feels bad, no easy way to corrupted blood a boss if it doesn't summon mobs

[last bolt]

I'll probably never get an Original Sin but I'm wondering about an Original Sin+Elemental Sundering spear Chaluya Monk with chaos damage causing all the ailments in rotation and being able to consume any of them for more chaos damage explosions.

[silent matrix]

who here is planning to start hollow palm? I'm currently thinking about what to do with weapon swap, any ideas other than just shock or curse setup?

[dreamy bridge]

you can be your own dps and support at the same time lol

[eternal pilot]

Is this good?

I dont really understand how this is supposed to work

does that mean that every shot is going to increase the damage
incrementally. Like the first shot would deal 5% additional damage. the shot after would recalc the debuff based on the previous 5% increase etc

[buoyant falcon]

How easy is it to reach 100% crit chance for a build like hollow palm that can probably reach around 15-20% base crit?

[last bolt]

If Solar orb is on a staff now do you still need to target an orb for flame blast to cast faster?

I'm surprised they didn't make Orb a generic elemental skill like snap, that would've been cool.

[left ledge]

The random ideas that fly through my head are wild with all the changes.

With arc being a projectile now if I play a deadeye will it now shoot 2 arc chains? Can I shotgun with the arcs for great single target damage.

With totems taking the weapon we have and using it, how does it interact when using uniques? What if I’m dual weilding, will it use both of them or only 1 on my main hand?

Wonder if I can finnally afk deli with a thorns build but I would have to use warbrininger bc of the big nerfs to block

Being in demon form I can use my weapons along with

[dreamy bridge]

based on the interviews, every attack hit with the debuff on will get added damage equal to 5% of HV round damage

it also counts each fragment of a shotgun blast individually

[eternal pilot]

and the attack damage is like 1429% at skill level 20? still?

[frosty finch]

I'm so clueless about what build i'm going to do next season

[round escarp]

Ya

HVR will slap on high hitting skills

[uncut bay]

deadeye would be pretty bad for arc

[dreamy bridge]

that’s probably why they changed the lightning shotgun from an auto shotty to a pump shotgun

[frosty finch]

Incendiary shot seems very strong this patch

[rough stirrup]

May have saved my Titan xbow build

consuming it sucked & killed the skill for me

[frosty finch]

Titan xbow might just be it tbh

I loved incendiary shot already

[tacit falcon]

Hey! With 0.3 do we expect any improvements to tanky warrior builds? I last played during 0.1 launch and ended up playing ES elementalist with shield which was much more tanky ☹️

[silent mural]

yeah a lot of armour reduces ele dmg - so people will test how good it is.

[tacit falcon]

Oh great, that sounds promising. I saw they added a new ascendency too that seems pretty good for tanky builds

[last bolt]

I feel like the ele -> chaos conversion tri infusion firestorm with the siphon elements and the new chayula could be really good. Would work OK with Blakeflame but I think will get really good with the original sin ring 🤔

[silent mural]

Oh yeah amazon - she was meta last league

[tacit falcon]

I meant Kitava

[honest grail]

pretty much every warrior should league start kitava if they know what they're doing

can just respec later if you want some of the power from hulking form or warbringer totem stuff

[echo stump]

Does anyone know how to enable "If shocked recently..." in PoB? I'm looking at Echoing Thunder but it doesn't add any damage by itself

[pliant edge]

If you wanna use tri ele you should use original sin otherwise you have to scale a lot of different types

And you get nothing from elemental exposure or elemental curses

So do one or the other

[honest grail]

isn't tri ele good with the new Rakiata's support

[scarlet isle]

LA deadeye good league starter?

[pliant edge]

lol yes. Next question.

[pliant edge]

What does that do again?

[honest grail]

invert ele res

no downside from what we saw

[brittle anvil]

yet

[honest grail]

I expect it's just a rare chase item

[bronze notch]

does anyone know if negative res cap in poe2 is the same as poe1?

[slender furnace]

We don't need to test it, we know how the math works. It's complete trash because it's applied before resistance

[slender furnace]

No, it's bad. It's applied before resistance

[tacit falcon]

Oh 🙁 so is best tank still going to be ES mage?

[slender furnace]

Probably evasion. ES probably still good too based on what we know (aka no tree info)

Armor is by far the worst defense now especially with giants blood nerfed

[haughty grove]

Does this stack with Deflection ?

[silent mural]

Well still to have -33% percent less dmg taken before resistances applied is better than 0

for smaller hits - no ubers

[slender furnace]

So useless trash

Who cares about 33% reduction on small hits. It's meaningless

[north talon]

Armor to ele seems really potentially powerful to me

and it is WAY more than 33% reduction vs small hit

[frosty finch]

For titan crossbow shotgun, is it gonna be galvanic shards or incendiary shot ?

[north talon]

Incendiary has better support on tree, but it remains to be seen if Galvanic is better anyway

I am going to try Incendiary first though

[frosty finch]

That ignite would be cool with the ignite ring unique hhaha

[north talon]

Just to comment, doing the math for some potential setups and it seems potentially very strong to me

This is a Blackbraid setup I've been looking at

This does make you more vulnerable to small physical hits, but I think it has merit

[frosty finch]

Yeah but that chestpiece gives 0 armor

[north talon]

I am aware, 20-25k is a realistic amount you can hit on titan with that chest

I tested this in 0.2.0 with zero chestplate at all when speculating (and using a 40% scavenged plating)

maybe it won't be worth it, but the numbers are potentially promising

[frosty finch]

Where do you get 25k armor from ?

[quiet forge]

Some guy was talking bout this with amazon and her double eva nodes

[frosty finch]

This seems unrealistic

[quiet forge]

Then convert to armor with iron reflexes

[brisk leaf]

Aren't physical hits what typically kill you? Seems like you can't be sacrificing armour to help with ele damage if you want to live.

I want to run titan crossbow, but without a shield in that part of the tree, you have no defensive layers... Let's hope the new tree helps.

[north talon]

From armor gear and clicking armor nodes.

[north talon]

I mean not on armor builds, physical hits are largly a joke for armor. This makes them less of a joke though but ele hits are the big danger otherwise

unless you mean physical 1 shots, in which case Gorgirdle is actually very good in that circumstance

[frosty finch]

Wouldnt this be insane for incendiary shot ?

[north talon]

2 seconds is REALLY slow

[frosty finch]

I feel like it will be worth it

[mellow shale]

Wilfire support gem does the same in 1 second?

[scarlet rover]

Soooo thinking on playing this league but have no clue of what to play, is there any consensus of whats going to be the most broken build?

[frosty finch]

Pretty sure wildfire does the exact same thing

Nvm you are right

[mellow shale]

yea they buffed it at some point a good while ago

[north talon]

They buffed it and still no one uses it

[frosty finch]

They should buff the unique as well imo

[dawn spire]

Use totems, then weapon swap for raise shield

[north talon]

Though that may just be because very few people running ignite builds

[dawn spire]

With the way they changed ignite, I'm not sure how wildfire will even work in 0.3

[mellow shale]

i gave up on ignite in 0.2 after repeatedly failing to ignite bosses with Flameblast (3 second cast, 15 second cooldown) and every single ignite chance node in the passive tree. hopefully a little better now xD

well all in the top side that is

[dawn spire]

I think wildfire might be kinda pog in 0.3

It sounds like it ignores flammability

So just slap it on a skill with a good ignite chance/flammability buildup and it can clear for you

Well, it will clear for you eventually

Does wildfire keep spreading after the first spread, or does it only spread from the initial target hit?

And does it pulse every one second, or does it do it once and never again?

[frosty finch]

"Ignites you inflict with this skill are 200% faster" doesnt that litterally mean 3x damage from ignite ?

[frosty finch]

It does

[dawn spire]

Not 3x damage, but 3x dps from ignite