2┃build-planning

[exotic compass]

Yeah last season it wasn't bad either, just got moved up a tier for 0.2 didn't jt

[uncut bay]

because of the witch ascendancies maybe

[paper vine]

is LS actually that popular? This is my first time playing since EA started

[uncut bay]

LS is the best build for every ascendancy it seems

[paper vine]

interesting have they mentioned nerfing it or buffing other builds

[uncut bay]

okay your question, you don't choose between rake and lightning spear, one is a bossing skill, another is an AOE skill

you could do rake stomping ground but that's just stacking strength

and the area of effect is very small

[paper vine]

oh i was going off builds i see online and they seemed to be use in different builds instead of together

[uncut bay]

so I would recommend lightning spear and then storm lance, primal strikes, explosive spear or spear throw for bossin

storm lance seems the best

[exotic compass]

Not sure where you're looking but use this site

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn

[paper vine]

i was bouncing between maxroll and mobalytics but yeah ill def check that out. i dont think they had poe ninja ready for poe 2 last i played

[uncut bay]

I don't like mobalytics

[exotic compass]

Simply cannot use those sites to look up data on builds

Those are for posting specific builds

[uncut bay]

rake is harder to build around ,need bleed magnitude and such

and you won't deal nearly as much damage as bloodmage

[exotic compass]

Just remember no matter what lightning spear setup you use, frenzy charges make a hell of a difference.

Combat frenzy for mobbing, Snipers mark for bossing

[ancient lodge]

Is this a build? Notably 0.05 reload time on Freezing Salvo.

I have been thinking about a target of quality stacking since I saw the Fox Talisman (in combination with corrupted Morior Invictus for +10%).
It is possible to get 49% quality on gems as a Gemling.
Other notable options are Shockwave Totem and Artillery Ballista that gets flat reduced attack time with quality

[median wharf]

Interesting to see it happen, would be nice to have it more dependable for single targets

[exotic compass]

Freezing salvo tech is to use multiple gems like tempest bell

Use one, use another, use a third, and then hopefully the first is charged up again

Shout-out betatestcoin

[timid cloud]

i slam exalt this and turned to this after i fractured this. So now my best bet is to whittle this and pray to get good roll instead of the cold damage shitty roll right?

[median wharf]

i would not waste whittles on that

[median wharf]

i guess gemling can do this with 2 different ones and same supports

[timid cloud]

why not? i did actually i hit t4 lightning first try

something like this in the market is like over 100div

rn

[median wharf]

the market now is messed up, but just because things are overpriced, it doesnt make it a good bow

[timid cloud]

yea true

[valid bolt]

guys i was following tuna guide and in the guide he is using grace and hatred and summon skitterbots the 3 at the same time but when i try to do that i dont find the enough mana for them am i doing smth wrong ?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

This is a PoE2 channel, the skills you're naming are from PoE1.

[dusky kayak]

to get volcanic fissure of snaking, just run normal lab over and over? put any red skill (including already transfigured) and pray?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[woven depot]

Yes but also this is the wrong game

[dusky kayak]

ha, sorry, i see the 2 now 😄

[sterile spade]

hey guys

anyone can help me??

i have been following this guide and just got to maps. I have the same gear as the "lv27" tab, that a buddy gave to me before leaving the season. https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ronarray-speed-leveling-build?weaponSet=set1&ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C633b70e2-88c1-4769-8615-5ddad8defbd8

however, since act 2 cruel i have been dying a lot and getting 1 shotted by bosses, so I am going to transition to this guide from fubgun. So i need to unequip the amulet that guts my resistances and try to buy the gear from the "midgame" tab. Where should i start? which gear first? i tried finding these gears but trade doesnt have ones with the same mods. i have 13 divs.

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/fubgun-spear-deadeye

i am lv64

[exotic compass]

Chest and amulet need to go first

Then I'd swap helmet

Then I'd swap belt and boots

You do not need every single item from a guide since you will never be able to copy someone's gear perfectly, it's better to understand what's actually needed and what's fluff.

In this case, all we want to do is find gear with Life and evasion/energy shield, and enough resistances and attributes to use the things we want.

This super simple search was 350 evasion, 200 es, 100 life, and level 64 cap

To further tune it, I would adjust price and I would check for resistances

"beacon of azis" is hella cheap so you definitely haven't checked that one on trade yet, prob just nab one of those along with a nice chest piece and you'll immediately feel stronger

Meginlords belt is not the worst since it gives an abnormal amount of strength, but definitely search for a rare belt that has 100+ life and some resistances. Again remember to adjust your numbers down from the guide.

Lvl 64 means your gear will likely still be replaced, so just aim for 1.5-2k LIFE, and then up to 1k es

Definitely shouldn't be hard only using 1 div out of those 13

My favorite tip when buying late in the season as a noob, "hey I'm new to the game and saw this item, would really help me out if you could sell, thank you!"

Often times that 1 exalt or 1 chaos isn't enough to get someone's attention, but some humanity sure does

[sterile spade]

Ty so much for the in depth resposnw

[exotic compass]

i live to yap

this note from fubguns guide is very important for this kind of character (dex/int-based):

"Helmet: You're looking for a high ES helmet, this is important because it'll give you a ton of evasion with Subterfuge Mask"

[uncut bay]

mobalytics and fubgun's build can be missleading, with 13 divines get a chest and helmet with 450+ ES, boots and gloves with 200+ ES, chest is hybrid, gloves will have less ES if you want more flat damage. max life helps, but it's not necessary, stacking ES and resistances including chaos res is much more important. flat damage on budget rings, you can expect like 55-60, tangletongue will probably have around 12% crit damage and 23% crit chance. don't use rhoa, close combat, longshot or the support that increases the movement penalty on the main skills. on the spear stab close combat is fine tho, so is longshot on the herald of thunder. get at least 5k life+ES and 20k lightning spear DPS

doesn't matter what gear you buy first if all of your gear is bad, but try to replace the worst item in your build
general item search https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn of the Hunt/K3J4rKgI5
ring search with 55+ flat damage https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn of the Hunt/WXjYL5KCm

[static torrent]

No self-promotion here, please go to Reddit or elsewhere to promote this.

[formal silo]

I am a bit confused about bonestorm, does it scale with spell damage and projectile damage?

[silent glade]

it does scale with both of those, yes. among other things (e.g. physical damage, area damage)

[formal silo]

Yeah it’s super confusing, I’m trying to figure out how to scale this thing but crit, spell damage, physical damage and projectile damage all scaling it. Like what am I suppose to world tour to actually build out this skill?

Like the nodes near ranger solid, the nodes near witch solid, the nodes near warrior solid

[next moat]

In general, you can think of all those you listed except for crit as being in one damage bucket for bone storm. Your spell damage increases + physical damage increases + projectile damage increases all contribute additively to the % damage increase bucket for Bonestorm.

Crit works a bit differently. You have a chance to crit, which you can scale up. And you have crit magnitude, which increases the damage multiplier for when you get a critical hit.

[formal silo]

Ty will try and figure out a pob for this

[next moat]

PoB is a great way to learn about damage buckets btw. If you go to the Calcs page you can hover over the increased damage category and it'll tell you every source of % damage increase and where it comes from.

This info is not in the game and probably never will be, but I wish it was. It's highly instructive in teaching how damage actually scales.

[formal silo]

Yeah very familiar with pob it was just odd the scaling because none of it seemed that big an outlier for bonestorm while if I was doing like ele damage or something it was a bit easier for target stuff

[hoary bolt]

I mean if you were doing something like Lightning Arrow, it scales on just as much stuff: Bow Damage, Projectile Damage, Elemental Damage, Attack Damage, Lightning Damage

most skills have quite a few scaling vectors

[next moat]

yes/and. I think a lot of new players hear the "multiple scaling vector" stuff and don't realize it's all ultimately one numerical pot.

I had a friend who had like 200% fire damage, so he thought pivoting to a node that gave 10% melee would be a flat 10% increase.

But the point is you have flexibility in which scaling stats you use, and that allows for interesting overlap/synergistic boosting to multiple skills as you make builds.

[hoary bolt]

yeah learning that increases are all additive and more is multiplicative is a fundamental concept that needs to be known

for new players

[next moat]

Agreed. There's some onboarding sins GGG is living with during EA since it seems apparently the assumption was most people at 0.1 would be POE 1 vets.

The tutorialization of how stats work is....I was going to say poor but it's largely not there unless you really dig deep into tooltips.

[hoary bolt]

the underlined tooltip descriptions that you can expand are great

however the baseline concepts behind them need better explaining

a full help panel would work wonders

[next moat]

agreee on all three

I think Viper mentioned one of his goals is to work with QA to have some form of help codex for 1.0. Would be amazing if they can pull that off.

[hoary bolt]

yeah I saw that last week or so

would be great for 1.0 release when the game officially goes F2P

[next moat]

Yep, definitely would be a huge QoL for getting new people into the game at release.

[hoary bolt]

its clear they are valuing clear communication in-game though with the aforementioned expanded tooltip descriptions, as well as the skill demonstration videos

[next moat]

100%. It's already much more accessible than POE 1, and the foundation of the system makes it self documenting as they add more keywords.

[hoary bolt]

it just needs to be expanded on

[next moat]

I think it's in a very good spot, I'm less complaining than saying, "keep going"

[hoary bolt]

I really do like those little videos actually

[next moat]

Except when I forgot they're running and the dude repeats himself 100 while I'm tabbed out

[hoary bolt]

yeah if you hover the spot it plays even when minimized

its weird

[chrome tree]

I have a question if you go for a curse aura what’s the best venom to take from the acts

[flat jackal]

for monk int str or dex?

for passive

[static torrent]

It was not, they just didn't have the time to finish up some stuff, like a help panel.

[formal silo]

Kind of but there are a few things that seem to scale my damage a lot more and it’s more noticeable in pob. For instance crit seems to always be a massive upgrade for almost any build I run besides like curses obvi.

With something like a lightning ability I can try and make a build and in pob the ele damage nodes seem to offer a lot more value no matter how much I try and play around with other stats besides crit.

Bonestorm all the stuff in pob seems very competitive. If I scale phys damage or spell damage or projectile damage it was not that far apart.

While other builds there is usually more clear winners especially when doing ele damage.

It’s also very frustrating that almost every build is basically just better with crit including bonestorm.

Flicker better with crit, lightning spear, ice strike, ice shot, galvanic shards, rake and almost all the spell builds end up slamming crit in the high end.

It feels 95% of the builds out there even giga off meta just slam these nodes for all of them. Even bonestorm builds I’m finding have a respec for full crit swap for end game. Could copy and paste it for a lot of the other classes also and just insert evasion or energy shield depending where you started on the tree

[green dust]

Hey,
are there any other sources for gem quality than gemling and gemcutters? I would like to stack quality.

[static torrent]

Also on a Fox Talisman

[green dust]

interesting, tyvm

[cloud pebble]

are there any boots and chest that give any buff to fire/spell/skills/ailments/ignite/damage ? (outside of socketables)

[bronze karma]

Only like level 22 or 23. Been focused on spear and physical damage with the Huntress. Didn't really like the look of the Amazon Ascendancy though. Ritualist doesn't look much better, but I liked the look of some of its stuff more. Just wish either felt more complimentary to my "run around poking things with my spear while also kicking up whirlwinds and twisters a lot and evading damage with Wind Dancer" style

It's not too hard to get Frenzy with Culling Strike, but I do wish her power didn't seem so reliant on variables

[exotic compass]

Spirit gem level 8 means you can cut "combat frenzy"

This will be your main source of frenzy charges moving forward, and requires you to pin, freeze, or electrocute enemies.

You currently use wind dancer for 30 spirit so you either replace it, wait until act 3 (you get another 30 spirit), or find gear with spirit on it

Bushwhack unique boots would also solve this for you, and should be cheap on trade

If you like whirling + twister, are you using an elemental ground effect? I ran cold for a while it was very fun, I want to try lightning next season

[bronze karma]

I have explosive spear, but the elemental ground effect requires frenzy

The idea was attack fast, move fast, be hard to hit, eventually have a companion and have as many buffs as possible which is why I went with Ritualist

Just not really sure how to build in the end. I've been focusing on melee damage and got into the spear focused nodes towards the south east edge of the tree. Not really sure where to go from there

I guess I could build into lighting, but I like most of my skills already like whirlwinds and twisters. explosive spear is good. Disengage is another potential source of frenzy if I parry.

I think the only ones I don't really like much are Rake and Blood Hunt, but nothing else really speaks to me

And for some reason I can't pick the bleed related herald skill even though I don't have its gem anywhere

I wish there was a way to search tree nodes for things

I feel like if I can increase my presence range, blood boil would be pretty nice to have as a way to get some extra damage in on large groups or bosses that summon lots of mobs

oooh. I found a thing online that does that

Think I've got stuff I want to build into, but it'll have to wait until I actually have access to companions

[sharp thorn]

#1┃build-planning

[gilded citrus]

whoops lol, ty

[young crystal]

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[scarlet sandal]

Are there any successful minion builds?

[uncut bay]

yes

[woven otter]

!pings

[formal violet]

By default, people are notified for both PoE 1 and PoE 2.

To customize your pings and channels, either:

• Go to or #rules-and-info and double-press the :bell: icon to remove the the All-Notifications role or
• Go to id:customize and toggle your answer for the "Ping me for both games " question to enabled, then disabled.

Either of these will remove the (formerly) default role and instead you can select either the Path of Exile 1 or Path of Exile 2 roles you want. If you want neither, go to the #rules-and-info channel instead of onboarding and you can remove both as well. This may cause some channels to disappear, you can re-add them in id:customize and use 'Show all channels'

[uncut knot]

Tactician piercing? Shot Pin+PinStun+HeraldDiscount. 50% bleed chance tree + chance to bleed support + crimson (1s bleed aggravate). herald of blood -> poison. ailment nodes and phys damage

shoot every second bleed every second 100% uptime

[void kayak]

Does anyone happen to know if "Behead" support gem on "Spear Stab" would synergize with "Tear" support gem?

I'm hoping that I can steal 2 modifiers from a rare.... But I'm struggling to test it in the field since the HUD just has the generic "stolen modifier" instead of what you actually stole.

[rough folio]

can't find any Sorc builds

[green dust]

Hey,
I am playing with a friend and he uses the Incinerate Gem, but for some reason the ignite on the enemy (tested on a boss) disappears regularly even though he holds the ability in them the entire time. Does anyone know why this could happen?

[sharp thorn]

They can only disappear if they have anything that consumes ignite on enemies like firestorm.

[green dust]

Yes tyvm we just figured that out as well. ty for your help

[devout dew]

i havent played reliably since Huntress was released - im looking to dive back into the game but was wanting to know the build i should try after giving Pconc Pathfinder Lich and huntress a try with varying success

was wanting to try something different

so whats The Third Edict anyways

[static torrent]

The next update, 0.3. We don't know many specifics just yet, the full content reveal will be on August 20th, with the release on August 29th.

[devout dew]

so @static torrent if ive mentioned the classes above - i did dabble with the Tank class and a little with Monk but i just dont know who to fully dive into stuff with

ive been busy with other games and such

i was hoping Druid was out and playable tho that doesnt seem to be the case

[static torrent]

I only answered that part since I'm not too familiar with what people are doing xd
However, it might be a good idea to just wait for the fresh league anyway, since that's when lots of people will come back to the game, and the fresh economy will mean you can actually afford to trade for stuff. Once 0.3 does come out, though it will inevitably bring balance changes, so builds that people use now may be changed or even outright removed due to alterations to the skills.

[devout dew]

so dont play now then

i was hoping Druid was out is the thing

[static torrent]

Classes will drop with major releases, like 0.2 or, potentially, 0.3. We don't yet know if Druid will be present in the next update, again, content reveal will confirm the details.

[devout dew]

ok so on wednesday - what time

cause tomorrow on tuesday is Gamescom

[devout dew]

ok ill be home by then

[static torrent]

If you check the post in your browser, it should display it in your local time: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3825369

But anyway, we'll find out what we are and aren't getting then. For now, we don't have Druid, but if 0.3 has a class, Druid is the most likely one.

[shadow zephyr]

Boo. Booooooo! We want templars 😄

[hazy veldt]

can anyone help with my build?

[uncut knot]

what is your issue

[lone wave]

Hmm.
Looking at the change to ascendency since the last time I played, wondering if it's worth undoing my old selection of Traveller's Wisdom to get the newly added node of Sustainable Practices

[uncut knot]

it sounds really good. i wanted to do pathfinder for my spear character to try it but i went invasion. i am glad i did, pure evasion as a melee would be rough, cant get hit ever

think evasion is for pure archer classes right now, the defence can only be good for something that gets hit rarely

[lone wave]

I was looking through more, and pulled up my old build, so noticed that they moved away one of the sections I used to use.
Dark Entries is way up at the top of the skill tree now, too far away to want to get to I think, that's immediately some node points back.
I could say that will make it very easy to no longer use Traveller's Wisdom but I also see they added a 2nd quiver cluster

[uncut knot]

is there a new path of building?

[lone wave]

new to me

my build was made before they added huntress

[uncut knot]

you are trying to move from 0.1 to 0.2 build?

[lone wave]

I opened it to see the new ascensions but happened to notice the ascension for my main character was changed

when this coming update drops and I play again idk if I'll poison pathfinder again but if so I'll need to decide what im changing

[crimson sky]

guys does ghostwrithe still work with CI?

[nimble zinc]

I only have one note, and that is all Thunderfist Monks shall be called THUNDERFUNK

[high lake]

Now what do we do for flicker 🙁

[scarlet sandal]

Really want to try something that incorporates the new black flame node.. Any suggestions?

[high lake]

Wait nvm cast on crit would still work just feels worse to me imo

[half mango]

do you think whirling slash still snapshots?

like obvoiusly i cant use two whilring slashes now... BUT
whirlwind lance also creates a whirlwind.. can i snapshot the size with whirlwind lance and then use whirling slash?

[spice wigeon]

Is Shield Charge travel speed related to attack speed?

The skill's base movement speed has been reduced by 25%, but it no longer has a cooldown. Now has a Base Attack Time of 0.6 seconds (previously 0.5) [...]

EDIT: answer is no 🙁

[half mango]

wait.. incinerate is also different now... gee this will be more convoluted

[spice wigeon]

Also I could use some clarification on the ES/Eva 'on Equipped Armour Items' wording of Hollow Palm, if someone is confident they know what it means.
I think its to prevent scaling from jewels and tree % sources, but what about stuff like 'double Eva from X' piece of gear? That not real Eva 'on' the piece of gear, but its still extra Eva being provided directly by that piece of gear.
Would it apply to Hollow Palm scaling?

[atomic halo]

"item energy shield"

specifically whatever the item says

[spice wigeon]

Base ES scaled by local modifiers?

Yea ok, thanks

[frail sedge]

Will we have some passive planner for the new league before launch?

Also for ascendencies

[half mango]

would be nice, but i havent seen or heard of it yet

[atomic snow]

So, what do ppl do to get mana flask charges back?

[main totem]

have they buffed HP passive yet ?

[timid basin]

Mortar cannon best ascendancy? anyone guess? grenades look good, lots of buffs

[spice wigeon]

Totem / Balista now directly scales off your weapon damage, that's huge as well

[frail sedge]

Wanna know this too

[spice wigeon]

Elementalist PSA: Trinity now works on all elemental damage (attacks AND spells), % more ele dmg, and % inc skill speed from gem quality

[cloud pebble]

wait, we can't run dual whirling slashes anymore?

oh damn, no duplicates anymore

sheesh

[cloud pebble]

I'm scrambling to figure out how the build might survive too as a Fire Lich main. Yes, Whirlwind Lance is viable, I've seen some spin builds run it before. Maybe getting Frenzy Charges will be a little bit easier now too and we'll be able to integrate that now

There are new ways to make burning or ignited ground

[half mango]

yeah im worried about both being able to cast incinerate

both starting the cast and if we have a way to get a fire infusion with no enemies

that being said if it does work.. it should technially be buffed

so if we can get a power charge. frenzy charge and infusion

[static plinth]

There's no way to convert 100% of phys to chaos, right?

[hoary bolt]

i think you conditionally can

with ancestral cry

but that depends on if that counts as innate skill conversion in the conversion chain

[half mango]

then again we dont really use that node

[hexed lotus]

is there a cap to elemental penetration?

[scarlet sandal]

If you can convert phys to fire maybe go the black flame node? Honestly not sure how itd work

[static plinth]

Cant chain convert

So i guess i pray for Chaos Archon

Since then i can run the ele quarterstaff skills and convert that ele to Chaos

Or is there 100% cold/lightning to chaos besides Voltaxic Rift

[echo beacon]

New act and mechanic means new specters 👀

[distant dome]

Does Plague Burst from Bursting Plague support benefit from other support gems socketed in the skill? example here: Considered Casting + Plague Burst in Detonate Dead.

I haven't played in a few months and I'm trying to figure out why I could kill mobs from full health to dead with just plague burst. Could be that it was proccing from multiple mobs, could be that the 35% extra damage from considered casting was pushing my plague burst from 83.6% of a mobs HP up to 112% of a mob's HP
I seem to only have 318% extra chaos damage

... oh wait, I'm not applying my increased spell damage to Bursting Plague... maybe that's it. But it doesn't have the "spell" tag, so maybe not? I'm lost

[spice wigeon]

(^ viperesque)

[quick phoenix]

is there a consisten way in the game to generate endurance charges? feels like the new ancestral warchief totem is dead in the water if you need 3 endurance charges to use it

[warped viper]

does anyone know the order of operations for split, fork, pierce, chain

nvm i found it on google: Split -> Pierce -> Fork -> Chain -> Return

[next moat]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Enduring_Impact_II

something around this tech is one option

https://poe2db.tw/us/Marohi_Erqi

pair it with this on a weapon swap with Leap Slam and you'll be diving into packs with max endurance just about every time.

[quick phoenix]

im not really sure how they showed a character putting down like 3-4 totems before a boss fight

[regal turtle]

did they say if the new darkness enthroned is just armour or can it be weapons as well

[shadow zephyr]

Turtle Charm is now trash. Long live the Titan.

[shadow zephyr]

Resonating Shield + Break Endurance support gem will solve your endurance generation problems pretty consistently as long as you have a way to consume the armour break in your rotation (tbh even without it, but since you can break so fast with RS a lot of those consume bonuses are pretty nice). I also put envenom+corrosion+armour explosion+bursting plague on mine, which causes a pretty nasty chain reaction in packs and near-instantly caps my endurance charges as soon as the first wave of monsters armour breaks.

I also run a magma barrier with penetration and fiery death + some other fire increases to back it up so that I can briefly pause resonating shield and gain extra guaranteed stacks or just time some raise shield/bashes if I happen to get pounced on by a mana drain unique. The magma spray can clear packs in front of me by itself and is a meaty increase on the initial burst of RS.

[limber lodge]

Uhhh
From patch notes

Hexblast: Quality now provides 0-10% more Damage per 1 second of remaining Duration of removed Curse, instead of 0-20% more Chaos Damage.

How is this going to work with the new lich ascendancy that grants infinite curse duration?

Because, as written, the obvious answer is "hexblast will do infinite damage"

[rustic raptor]

yo streets

whatre your thoughts on hollow palm blood mage

[high rivet]

are we at least getting more thorn supports and passives? or even the thorn runes?

i was wanting to do a thorns build

but thats a huge decrease in thorns

[shadow zephyr]

this doesn't look like much, but if I correctly understand, items that are normally limited to 1 socket can now drop with 2 in end-game maps...and corruption doesn't have any notes about no longer being able to add a socket, so that's a potential of 3 for 150% increased thorns crit chance... Dunno if that's good enough to enable some funny cast-on-crit shenanigans or not, but it can't hurt.

Although personally if I understand all that right, I'm more interested in the new 25% of armour applies to cold/fire/lightning hits soul cores. Socket 3 of each of those with max resistances and 50K armour....

[high rivet]

i mean, there were crit thorn builds, and briarpatch gives so much

you could easily cap it

the biggest problem was always base thorns damage to scale off of

[rustic raptor]

you can use darkness enthroned

and use the thorns socketable

[high rivet]

the lightning one?

yeah i guess

[shadow zephyr]

That lightning thorn rune is pretty beefy... up to 100, right?

[rustic raptor]

1-100

[high rivet]

its got a huge range though

1-100

yeah

[shadow zephyr]

On the bright side if you were really leaning hard into stacking the damage to make it work there's also that lightning damage is lucky node somewhere that I've never taken.

[high rivet]

isnt that nerfed

its like 30% chance to be lucky now

[warped hazel]

in patch notes it says Instead, it applies 20 stacks of Critical Weakness to enemies when you consume a Mark on them.; what counts as consuming a mark?

[high rivet]

i know bloodhounds is consumed when you heavy stun the enemy

[warped hazel]

oh I see, some of the descriptions use that terminology

Mark a target. The next Critical Hit the target receives consumes the Mark to deal extra damage and grant you a Frenzy Charge. - sniper's mark

[high rivet]

yeah

oh that gives me an idea, you could use thorns with that

insta-consume

100% crit chance on thorns is easily attainable

[warped hazel]

neato; seems like deadeye will be even better this league

[high rivet]

i used it with the impale gloves at first, lets your normal attacks consume the big thorns impale

[warped hazel]

oh? how does that work?

[high rivet]

so your thorns will always crit, applying impale

but your normal attacks wont crit

so they extract the impale

then with corrupting, this can get to 30.5%

then you have the 6% base crit for thorns on the tree, meaning you have 36.5% base crit on thorns, meaning you need just under 200% increased crit chance for thorns

also thorns is just funny against certain bosses

like here's an old clip of me fighting act 5 jamanra, when he throws down the gates https://youtu.be/UoCk_wQRKAE?si=zM0zRqCc3wEfToIk&t=88

[warped hazel]

oh that's classic

do you have a pob/build link for that?

[high rivet]

well tree is changing

so not yet

[warped hazel]

ofc sure, was just wondering how you pulled off the current build

[gusty bone]

Is it possible to reach 100% all damage bypasses energy shield?

[high rivet]

not even close

[high rivet]

mostly thorns damage, and block nodes

its meant to be tanky

phys damage increases affect it as well if you're using phys thorns

scavenged plating with warbringer is a must early on

warbringers "break armour equal to 10% of hit damage dealt" lets your thorns trigger scavenged plating for you

then you usually use rapid assault with spear with consuming armour, so scavenged can trigger multiple times on the same enemy

[warped hazel]

tasty synergies there

[fleet grove]

hey does dying sun screw with awk spell echo on self cast fross in some kind of bad way at all?

wondering if i should ditch it

[gusty bone]

Is there any item/passive that converts direct damage taken to damage over time?

[gusty timber]

i think that is the only source in the game as of 0.2

[hearty oracle]

Rolling Slam: Now has +1.5 seconds to total attack time (previously 1 second), but no longer has an attack speed penalty. Quality now provides 0-100% increased Stun Threshold while using Skill, instead of Causes Daze Buildup equal to 0-50% of Physical damage dealt.

so is it better or worse?

[dreamy bridge]

i forget, does vulnerability on fully broken enemies make them have negative armour, or 0 armour since there's nothing to ignore?

[hoary bolt]

0

also if they are brought down to 0 before the break, then basically any break at all will fully break

very useful in certain situations

[dreamy bridge]

ok. got it

[hoary bolt]

for example you can weapon swap break with vuln

to massively speed up the break

[dreamy bridge]

the interaction with regular break is pretty interesting. will keep in mind

[hoary bolt]

yeah I used it in a really weird battershout warcry build where I would reduce the armour to 0 with blasphemy + vuln, break it instantly with seismic cry, then weapon swap away so the enemy no longer was affected by vuln and then blow it up with another battershout seismic cry

was basically left click and right click only

[dreamy bridge]

conflicted between blood mage, trinity elementalist, and tank totem warbringer

[vivid kiln]

Hey, i'm planing to play Lightning Spear Huntress, do you think it will be good enough ? Or perhaps it was too much nerfed ?
(Even if with all the buff and co. i don't think it will be bad)

[dreamy bridge]

it'll deal 33% less damage (no more 50% bonus from frenzy) and have slightly less clear. could still be usable, just not as broken as before

[vivid kiln]

Oh

Do you think I can hinder the experience on EndGame content ?

🙁

[old oriole]

is it possible to roll multiple times with one click?

and can grasp of the void be a main map clear skill for monk?

[dreamy bridge]

400% damage scaling is pretty good imo. now depends on if the 3m base radius will be enough or if you can chain other effects from it

[old oriole]

1- how did u know that it has 400% scaling, or did they show that in the stream
2-i don't know how i can chain other effects from it, but i can make it bigger and stronger and maybe echo/fork right?

[dreamy bridge]

it's in stream, they show the gem details at the left side

[old oriole]

nice.. what about my second point?

[dreamy bridge]

the gem's tags are: buff, persistent, aoe, duration

[old oriole]

buff?

tf

[dreamy bridge]

acolyte seems to spec into volatility since there's a node that makes volatility do no self-damage. So, could use heralds even if maining chaos damage

[dreamy bridge]

just a tag they use on lots of persistent gems i guess

[old oriole]

so i use any skill or the void illusion itself to generate volatility, i take no damage i get stronger and use heralds + all elemental to chaos via the new notable in the class spec

or does that notable not exist and i have to somehow transform my elemental dmg to chaos via another way?

[dreamy bridge]

elemental -> chaos isn't in the asc. just chaos can deal one of the elemental ailments and cycles every 2 seconds

[old oriole]

um can the copy share damage by me, so that if i inflict damage on myself, i don't take damage due to volatility spec but it does?

[dreamy bridge]

no, even if it did they specified the copy as having 1 life

[old oriole]

yea but that copy get hit like a bit late and then my damage wouldn't happen instantaneously

[dreamy bridge]

only companion skills can share damage with you

[old oriole]

hmmmmmmmmm, can it be made to deal like a very big burst of damage, something close to sniper?

ofc not as strong i just don't know the scaling of sniper

@dreamy bridge ?

[dreamy bridge]

well, snipe will now deal 1000% without a crit so...

Snipe: Explosion is no longer Guaranteed Critical Hit and doesn't have increased Critical Damage Bonus. Explosion now deals 424-1092% Attack Damage at Gem levels 3-20 (previously 133-343%), and has a radius of 2.8 metres (previously 1.6). Perfectly timed arrows that hit a Frozen or Heavy Stunned enemy now cause larger explosions that deal much more damage. Quality now provides +0-0.4 metres to Explosion radius.

but that needs you to hit the perfect window since the explosion only happens there. mistimed snipe won't explode

[old oriole]

so is it possible to make my skill do very big burst damage or not?

[livid hamlet]

Hey Does archmage work with elemental storm ? I don't see a reason why it shouldn't right ?
Was thinking about running Elemental Storm Sorcerer for a bit and now with the changes and buffs to Sorcerer that feels like a good time to do so

[dreamy bridge]

there doesn't seem to be any good supports for it. it doesn't have the chaos tag so chaos mastery doesn't work.

I think it can poison, so supports for poison like corrosion will help a bit

[old oriole]

shiiiiiiiit, no i hate poison

[dreamy bridge]

won't hurt that bad. doubt you'd get more than 1 stack while using that skill

[old oriole]

this is a very vague idea, can't i use other skill to buff myself or the skill in many different ways and use the skill as a nuke?

[dreamy bridge]

dunno. all I can think of is volatility and that buffs everything so you might be better off using other skills

there's payoff supports like biting frost that give more damage but that's pretty much it

[old oriole]

shit man, wtf is this skill, like i can't cast it too fast for clear and it's too strong bossing, wtf it's like a side skill

that sucks

[lethal smelt]

so for builds like ED contagion, +1 lvl chaos skill gems is gonna be meta for every skill ?

[dreamy bridge]

I'd assume so. basically the main way to scale spells

[frigid hill]

So i can have unleash on several skills now huh?

[woven depot]

Yes

[tulip needle]

I was thinking either LA deadeye, or Lich<Something> For league start (NO MINIONS). What are some of the best skills for Lich?

[lethal smelt]

i was practicing for ED contagion, w/ despair, dark effigy, blasphemy + temp chains (makes dots last longer)

pretty strong ngl

Eternal life is a good node, it allows you to use the items and nodes that bypass energy shield to damage you and negates it since it locks life in place, leaving only postive benifits from those items/nodes

[pearl scroll]

How do mace skills get crit chance usually?

there isnt much crit chance in bottom left area

[dusty kiln]

do you all think some sort of unarmed invoker monk with magic (via set swapping to a staff) might be good?
or should i just go pure unarmed?

[lethal smelt]

theres a couple crit nodes there, theres also dual weilding crit nodes on the bottom right* too if you can branc to that area

recommend getting POB and seaching for crit

[tulip needle]

I tried this tho, isn't ED cont mapping possibly the worst in the game?

[lethal smelt]

i havn't done mapping yet so maybe, leveling was smooth though

[tulip needle]

I like the ascendency but I dont know what skill to play if i play it.

ED Cont has super high numbers its just slow as SIN

[lethal smelt]

i found the clear speed to be fast but bossing to be average

[tulip needle]

I guess im comparing it to LA Deadeye everything will be slow

[lethal smelt]

LA will be faster and its getting buffed

[tulip needle]

Wait really I didnt see buffs

[lethal smelt]

pretty much everything is getting buffed

[tulip needle]

Lightning arrow is not on the list

[lethal smelt]

yeah but you can use elemental infusions with it now

[tulip needle]

elemental infusions?

[lethal smelt]

and multiple of the same skill supports

Added a new mechanic called Elemental Infusion that many Elemental Spells interact with. Some skills create Infusions of a specific element as Remnants on the ground, which can be picked up to grant you the Infusion. Other skills can consume Infusions of a specific type to grant additional bonuses depending on the skill. Some skills consume infusions that match the skill's elemental type, while others have cross-elemental infusions.

[tulip needle]

I saw those but I doubt I will be able to generate those

I also saw mirage archer

Which looks so good

[lethal smelt]

Electrocuting Arrow: No longer a movement Skill. Now shoots an arrow forward that explodes, applying its Electrocuting Rod to all enemies Hit. Quality now causes Hits against targets with attached Rods to gain 0-10% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage (previously Arrow duration is +0-6 seconds).

[tulip needle]

hm

[lethal smelt]

seems cool too, builds up electrocution for charges, will have to see how it plays but seems promising, the skill was trash before

[tulip needle]

I mean its still trash outside of bosses but electrocuting bosses is good

[eternal pilot]

Im reading the patch notes. Am i missing something about the giants blood nerf and block nerf? Wth are warriors supposed to do?

[tulip needle]

Play totem.

[frigid hill]

jade & armor

[tulip needle]

Remember totems snapshot

[frigid hill]

that said armor applying to ele is b4 resistances so it sounds dead on arrival

[tulip needle]

and weapon swap is 0 delay

[eternal pilot]

I guess they nerfed them due to other factors beside warriors?

[tulip needle]

its 100% nerfed for totems

they balanced for totems

getting level 40 totems from a 1 mod weapon is OP

[rustic raptor]

theres a world where they are insanely good this league across the board

mercs included

that being said Galvanic WH is gonna be an insanely good league start now

with the shock duration change

[lethal smelt]

idk i think EA + LA will be a good combo

[eternal pilot]

And curses are pretty much entirely dead on every class beside pure/hybrid int builds? Since i assume you probably need like 130 int or something to even apply them to bosses?

[rustic raptor]

the damage nerf to shock burst rounds basically completely nullified during acts because this

[tulip needle]

LR + LA will be my build. EA might make it in but thats because there is no penalty for including it

[rustic raptor]

they reduced the att needs for everything in the game

[lethal smelt]

thats the standard build

[tulip needle]

I mean that's fine

[eternal pilot]

Yeah but you still need a high level gem to use said curse

[rustic raptor]

oh you mean the ele weakness ones

[tulip needle]

I've only ever done it last league and i got bored because there was nothing to do. I'm excited to play it and get a HH

[rustic raptor]

hollow palm blood mage is gonna be my project for this league

es stacking

[tulip needle]

Is there any reason to go pure evasion instead of evasion +ES

like any at all?

[rustic raptor]

deflect now

the armor mods for it are % of total eva

[tulip needle]

Assume deflect caps within Evasion+ES range

[rustic raptor]

nope

it caps at 100%

[tulip needle]

I am saying for the purposes of this convo assume it

[lethal smelt]

Added new Suffix Modifiers that can roll on Dexterity Armours from level 33 that grant a percentage of your Evasion Rating as Deflection Rating.

[rustic raptor]

oh I see sorry I thought you were asking the question

[tulip needle]

Right Im saying assume with tailwind you can hit that cap while building ES/Evasion peices

[lethal smelt]

its a percent of Evasion so you are getting less deflection and evasion by splitting

[rustic raptor]

no theres no reason to go pure evasion atm

[tulip needle]

Generally due to the 20% more multi from tailwind evasion+ES gets a much larger hit pool

[rustic raptor]

none of the content in the game really allows for zhp atm

[tulip needle]

the thing is for helms no evasion helm is more than an ES help + Sub mask

so an ES helm is just an upgrade.

and the es/evasion passives are like 3% less evasion ~36% less evasion on tree for something like 180% ES.

math just doesnt math to skip it IMO

[rustic raptor]

this is also ascendancy dependant anyways, cause if you're playing bm you're obviously gonna go for a full ES chestpiece

[lethal smelt]

they are also adding a lot of new passives

[rustic raptor]

wait actually

[tulip needle]

I meant for green side.

[rustic raptor]

with the new block changes

wh tank might be kinda crazy

with a shield

[lethal smelt]

Added 8 new clusters between the Warrior and Witch/Sorceress areas of the Passive Tree.
Added 15 new clusters to the Warrior area of the Passive Tree.
Added 23 new clusters to the Mercenary area of the Passive Tree.
Added 17 new clusters to the Ranger/Huntress area of the Passive Tree.
Added 17 new clusters to the Monk area of the Passive Tree.
Added 25 new clusters to the Witch/Sorceress areas of the Passive Tree.

[rustic raptor]

sorc ward

[tulip needle]

Im going to level with you

[lethal smelt]

clusters mind you

[tulip needle]

this is some clear favoritism lmao

Warrior, the worst of the bunch gets 15. Witch, the strongest gets 25.

[rustic raptor]

I think they are trying to make chronomancer not completely unplayable

[tulip needle]

It's already arguably the best support by a wide margin. People just hate supports.

[rustic raptor]

having a support class in a game that doesn't really have a streamlined approach to group play is the reason why that is

[lethal smelt]

i think its just the way the classes are distributed rn

[rustic raptor]

which to be clear i think is fine

that chronomancer is a support

[lethal smelt]

witch/sorc has 5 ascendancies warrior has 3

[rustic raptor]

just the fantasy of time magic kinda falls through

yeah true

once marauder comes out im sure that bit will get other nodes

I didnt think about that

[lethal smelt]

once they release int/str classes

[rustic raptor]

I imagine druid will be int/str alongside Templar

[lethal smelt]

yeah

i wonder if they are going to add the shadow again on the monk side

[static torrent]

We know all the classes and their attribute alignments already

[tulip needle]

oh I just realize Morior just got 10x better.

[static torrent]

STR: Marauder (Axe) and Warrior (Mace)
STR/INT: Templar (Flail) and Druid (Staff/Sceptre)
INT: Witch (Wand/Sceptre) and Sorceress (Staff)
INT/DEX: Shadow (Dagger/Traps) and Monk (Quarterstaff)
DEX: Ranger (Bow) and Huntress (Spear)
DEX/STR: Duelist (Sword) and Mercenary (Crossbow)

[tulip needle]

deflection makes 1-2k armor insane for mapping

[lethal smelt]

oh yeah i forgot it was on the ingame skill menu lol

[rustic raptor]

I dont get why they changed the 5% max fire res node on smith

[tulip needle]

because it was good.

[lethal smelt]

oo im excited for sword skills too

[tulip needle]

red side isnt allowed to be good

its against the rules

[lethal smelt]

how else will the blue side look good if not?

[tulip needle]

Blue is the favorite child, Green is the pathetic youngest child that runs around like a mad man, Red is the hated child.

[oblique marlin]

for someone that want to try summoner but never played summoners before, what build/ascendancy you can recommend?
for new league start

[tulip needle]

I'm not a big summoner player but it's almost always lich for summoner unless you want totem

[solar shadow]

do we know when we will get the passive tree?

[tulip needle]

5 minutes before launch

[nimble hound]

Best character for Mirage Archer?

Dead Eye?

or Tactician?

[lethal smelt]

wtf is this crap

[tulip needle]

its deadeye for sure. Extra proj

[nimble hound]

that works on the clone?

shadow clone

[tulip needle]

It should, its a clone of you with your stats

[nimble hound]

interesting

dead eye so OP lol

[tulip needle]

I

think it also has tailwind

but am not sure

[nimble hound]

how about that buffed poison plant arrow

also dead eye ove rpathfinder?

[tulip needle]

Pathfinder has similar tankiness nodes, but way WAY worse offensive nodes

[nimble hound]

want to go poison pathfinder maybe, unless de is better

[tulip needle]

+1 proj, 30% more, Tailwind vs... yeah

[nimble hound]

for those new poison arrow stuffs

[tulip needle]

the changes to supports make deadeye better for poison IMO

[nimble hound]

sucks that they gutted Concotions

[tulip needle]

you can poison everything

[woven depot]

new concs look pretty alright

[nimble hound]

oh they buffed them again?

[tulip needle]

fulminating is broken now.

The rest I dk

[woven depot]

there’ll probably be some gas cloud unarmed aconc shenanigans

[nimble hound]

Cuase first patch thye were OP second patch they were super mid

[woven depot]

They’ve been reworked ish

Again so to speak

[nimble hound]

that was my fav build nice

ill try it again s3

[woven depot]

Oh they’re supporting skills now

[nimble hound]

interesting

is ther epatch notes

[dusty kiln]

rn looking at smth like unarmed flickerstrike with elemental expression, do you think that will be good? will we still have an easy way to get power charges?

[tulip needle]

Elemental expressions numbers are butts.

Its just weak fundumentally because of the internal CD of .25 seconds capping its effect

[dusty kiln]

damn
well, the flickerstrike is what matters to me
so im fine with using smth else

[tulip needle]

I tried to make it work but the skill fundumentally does not work.

Flicker works if you can get charges on bosses

[dusty kiln]

gotcha, so i either need to find a way to get charges on singletarget, or have another skill(s) meant for bosskilling

[drifting cedar]

Trying not to be a downer about bottom left builds but it does seem like warrior survivability tools, which were already lacking compared to just stacking ES, are somewhat gutted?

Smith, giants blood, block nerfs make me think that I should just go es+ev+deflect for everything, again

[tulip needle]

Correct. Only totem warbringer bottom left is being balanced around.

[silent matrix]

anyone here planning on starting hollow palm?

[serene minnow]

is it safe to assume that on an unearth minion build with 20 minions, most will just be unable to be in-range to attack on small hitbox enemies ?

because of collision

[vital hornet]

How would new demon form work for Infernalist?

[dreamy bridge]

green is the middle child, forgotten

[dreamy bridge]

not knowledgeable about infernalist builds, but I'd assume it'll stay around the same power if not better now that you keep your hand equips + more spell damage. net loss of -2 spell level is tough to judge with more spell damage offsetting it

[wheat aurora]

wait so how does that work stat wise ? do you still get staff stat benefits or ?

[rustic raptor]

I will make hollow palm blood mage work

all the pieces are there

I can feel it through the screen

[silent matrix]

you just don't have a weapon and instead gain attack speed or base crit from gear

base unarmed attack speed is 1.4 and you easily get like 100% more attack speed from evasion gear

[silent matrix]

going bleed or what?

[dreamy bridge]

I was conflicted between blood mage and palm chayula. you have enlightened me

[rustic raptor]

you can get a dick ton of crit and defenses from blood mage

going pure es chestpiece you double up on crit

because you get crit from hollow palm, and from stacking max life off of the es from the chest

[edgy hollow]

Thoughts on new chrono curse skill?

It's just straight up more damage for single target right

[dreamy bridge]

at first I thought it was my suggestion of collapsing all dots and dealing damage at once, then was slightly disappointed.

it does seem like a good curse. effectively %more dps with it

imagine if you could put it in blasphemy

[edgy hollow]

Depends on the numbers

It says a portion of damage

[dreamy bridge]

yeah double checked. changed it

it's like the 2nd simplest source of %more

[edgy hollow]

You should be able to put it on blasphemy

It should appear in skill menu

[dreamy bridge]

it's an ascendancy skill, so might not be able to move it to blasphemy

[edgy hollow]

Like time freeze appears in skill menu.

[hearty reef]

Hey for the next update, does anyone know what they meant by unlocking support gems to be able to use more than once? Are they just making it so support gems can be used on multiple skills, or can the support gem be used multiple times on the same skill?

[dreamy bridge]

the same support on multiple skills

[hearty reef]

Thanks 🙂

[edgy hollow]

Warbringer is pretty nuts now. Free 25 max block chance

Since max block chance got nerfed to 50

[quiet forge]

It's not free, it costs you 30% damage taken from every blocked hit and 4 ascendancy points

[tulip fog]

does anyone know, does the Earthquake "Aftershock" effect count as an Aftershock for this passive?

i tried testing it ingame but could not see a difference

[scarlet sandal]

What spells/builds could work well with the lich that are fire skills?

[regal turtle]

yes it does

[drifting furnace]

yea it does

[tulip fog]

it does? that is very strange, i could not see in the tooltip nor any visual changes

does the skill have a cap on radius?

[tulip needle]

Hi, I have a question based upon the info in the 0.3 video. In the video we get a screen. That screen indicates at level 82 approximately 6,505 Deflection is needed to cap. While we don't know what the scaling curve is, given the absolutely massive conversion rates (And uncapped conversion) it seems like getting capped won't be too hard. Does Deflection make Life any better or is it still better to invest in ES even if they shave about 33% off of each ES node? It seems like the 30% qual/Extra sockets on gear massively out weigh that.

[regal turtle]

no there is no cap, my eq build would off-screen

[tulip fog]

do you mind sharing a POB of your setup?

[north talon]

I mean the intent of deflection is to make you not NEED to go hybrid. Now it still probably will be better to go hybrid ES I imagine but Life + Evasion may be playable now depending

[tulip fog]

i tried using it on one of my other builds that has a large investments into AoE and only got it to around 5 meters

[tulip needle]

I mean I'd rather not REQUIRE CI again but I don't see a world where CI isn't the best choice since life just sucks.

[tulip fog]

what amount of increased stun buildup would be reasonable to get in order to make sure you always heavy-stun an enemy on every hit? (i am using slam skills) right now i have like 300% increased stun buildup planned for but i might not need that much?

[tulip needle]

impossible, stunthreshold increases for a bit after a heavy stun. It would spiral upward until you can't Stunlocking is impossible

[tulip fog]

i mean ideally i would not need to heavy stun an enemy more than maybe 3 times before they are dead

so i would reasonably not account for more than that

[tulip needle]

even 2 against bosses is really hard.

they tend to die before the 2nd one

[tulip fog]

yeah, which is why i said at most 3 times, ideally 1-2 times

and as such, what amount of increased stun buildup would i need to accomplish that ideal 1-2 times

[tulip needle]

1? probably very little, probably 40-80%. 2 3-4x that.

you want to run the reduced stun threshold aura if I recall

[tulip fog]

is the stun buildup dependent on the damage you deal?

[tulip fog]

i am planning on doing that yeah

[tulip needle]

Yes but if you do too much damage you just kill it

[tulip fog]

i am planning on using this, and that skill consists of two hits, the initial hit which i am hoping will heavy-stun them and the shockwave which will use the bonuses to heavy stunned enemies (hopefully)

[north talon]

Oh I am not saying they have succeeded in making ES not the best thing to do, just what they said the intent was :)

My best chain stunning setup was from bleed weirdly, with that one bleed mark that made bleed damage build stun

[oblique gulch]

ok im reposting a build concept here

because its lost in gen chat

The acolyte has had quite a few changes for this new league, but ill go over what i think is going to be nerfed sooner than later

So, with this being said.... there is no need to invest into any quarterstaff nodes, as the hollow palm technique only gives you internal scaling of quarterstaff skills based on the given conditions. This method of stacking damage with pseudo-quaraterstaff combat along with volatility stacking allows chayula to easily reach immense heights of damage while retaining high amounts of self sustain and mitigation. Volatility is meant to make you take damage, chayula's new passive allows you to ignore that downside COMPLETELY. (This volatility description is slightly outdated, it caps at 200 currently and should follow new conditions for maximum vol. after patch hits). Let's not forget we can also scale critical because unarmed new passive 5% crit chance BASE.

...In any case, why volatility? Well, if we look at one of the other new nodes, chayula now leeches mana based on chaos damage dealt. This replaced the beloved Gain chaos damage on hit passive, and is considerably weaker than the previous mana leech node, but due to all scaling factors and how well chayula benefits from volatility (damage gained as extra chaos damage for each stack, downside negated). Another method for mana leech is the new Walker of the Wilds notable (which gives mana leech based on elemental damage, perfect for invoker's weakness gap, but potentially unnecessary depending on the direction you go for chayula. In terms of chaos damage stacking, we want to benefit more from chaos leech). Which brings me to my next point, INTO THE BREACH! This passive was definitely something that shined on the previous iteration of chayula, and now its buffed up and even more reliable than before. You can hard lock what remnant you want (purple, blue, red), with purple being the primary beneficiary here. 7% chaos damage PER. FUCKING. STACK. The best part? We have another node that makes them even stronger. with 50% increased effect AND we have 2 support gems that gives yet another 60% TOTAL, that adds up to DAMAGE GAINED AS 147% chaos damage (from remnants alone).

[tulip needle]

doesnt it do phys damage?

How do you ignore that

[north talon]

it is too hard to plan much atm with the big passive skill tree changes and support gem changes that we have no seen

[oblique gulch]

it doesn't, you get increased physical damage for the gem level, and those gems convert damage to an element most of the time

[tulip needle]

I meant volatility.

It does phys damage to you

[oblique gulch]

read the post

[tulip needle]

which passive ignores this

[oblique gulch]

i went over every detail for it

[tulip needle]

I dont understand

[oblique gulch]

read it

[oblique gulch]

this is all off patch notes, this concept exists enough to detail it to this extent

there is MORE than enough information

[tulip needle]

I am not seeing how off the patch notes you ignore a 20k phys hit.

[potent swift]

Hi folks, haven't played for months, I've only played Deadeye to the endgame, want to try something different for the next patch - are there other classes with similar clear speed, just not as clunky as melee used to be at first?

[oblique gulch]

look at the pictures then

you aren't reading

[north talon]

I mean the patch notes are helpful but we are missing so much context. So at best you can get a vauge interaction concept to try and make work

[oblique gulch]

otherwise you would know based off reading

[north talon]

but even that is missing tons of context

[oblique gulch]

its not vague?

the numbers are detailed

[tulip needle]

ah i missed the last line

[north talon]

Of what is listed yes. But not everything is listed what I mean

[oblique gulch]

the only number that isn't detailed enough is volatility

[tulip needle]

yeah thats a good bossing option

[oblique gulch]

because the 200 limit cap is being changed

it was temporary

since it broke damage numbers in 0.2

[tulip needle]

Essentially you have uncapped damage as chyula

Shame it's so slow.

[oblique gulch]

you have more than enough attack speed lol

go read hollow palm

[tulip needle]

I guess, I play deadeye and PoE 2 feels slow.

I mean you need a minion to snap to. You don't have ~200% MS

[oblique gulch]

1% more attack speed per 25 evasion on equipped armour

[tulip needle]

0% base attack speed tho.

[oblique gulch]

no its not

1.2 attacks per second

[tulip needle]

vs 2.X on end game weapons.

[oblique gulch]

you're forgetting we can use the same exact support gems on multiple skills now

[north talon]

I mean with end game armor you are hitting at least that much AS or higher on hollow palm

[oblique gulch]

anyways the number and details are all there

[tulip needle]

It's possible but that doesn't address my point. Your movement speed is still -tailwind - X from tree which was my point. POE2 is slower and I feel slow on deadeye

[oblique gulch]

ok so ur just complaining about poe2 and deadeye

this has nothing to do with the build concept

[tulip needle]

It's a good idea, if a little slow to ramp early league

[oblique gulch]

theres no movespeed reduction on the concept btw

[tulip needle]

since you likely scale exponentially it will get good quick.

[oblique gulch]

you're pulling this out of your ass

like i said go read it, you commented 3 times now saying something that isnt true

ragebait idk

[tulip needle]

Monk lacks some of hte MS nodes on tree was my point. There's only like 13% or something near them. The rest is down by ranger.

[oblique gulch]

we have sprint

[tulip needle]

Not saying its bad.

[north talon]

I mean I don't think not being literally ranger makes a build bad

[oblique gulch]

we have RUNNING

we dont need movespeed out of combat with literal running

[tulip needle]

Sprint is interesting but it should scale with MS

Out of curiosity have they fixed weapon swap blink?

[hexed rivet]

wait does it not?

[oblique gulch]

nobody knows

[tulip needle]

We don't know but I would assume sprint is multiplicitive with MS.

[hexed rivet]

i hope so that'd be so sick

[north talon]

could be addative as well, but either way I expect it to stack with MS in some way

[pearl scroll]

idk

[distant dome]

Skill Effect Duration doesn't apply to Ailment Duration correct? asking for ignite specifically

[tulip needle]

Looks like the answer is its gone.

[pearl scroll]

yes ignite is its own effect

[pearl scroll]

maybe

[sharp thunder]

Blink now needs to work on both weapon sets.

So yeah its gone

[tulip needle]

how likely is it they screw up with mirage archer too 😄

[sharp thunder]

I guess it depens on how mirage archer works. And if he scales with weapon dmg.

[tulip needle]

I'd put money on it using the totem snapshot code which you can weapon swap when you cast it then swap back.

On the back side you can slap + level of proj skills and good rolls even if you cant handle +Proj skills.

[sharp thunder]

Sounds interesting. we‘ll see how it works

[edgy hollow]

Will max block chance work with warbringer or is it capped to 75 on turtle

[sharp thunder]

I guess it can go further but i haven‘t find anything about that.

[drifting cedar]

Any word on if we're getting passive tree swapping with a single weapon? So for example you could do grenades + bolts on a single crossbow but with two trees, or spec into leech for a single ability on your main weapon

I know it was planned for 0.2 but I can't find it in 0.3 notes

[half mango]

Does lower ignite duration mean less damage or the same damage in a shorter time?

[drifting cedar]

less duration but the same damage per second, so less total damage per ignite

faster ignites means same total damage in shorter time, so higher damage per second

longer means same damage per second for a longer duration

[grim mountain]

Anyone thinking of running Tactician? What are we thinking of doing?

[edgy hollow]

What's everyone going to use with recovering es now? Since eternal youth got nerfed to shit

[tulip needle]

Ghost dance.

10k evasion makes 700 ES on dodge.

and you get 40% less damage taken from hits

[edgy hollow]

Good call. Guess I have to get evasion somewhere

[tulip needle]

You can also use essentia sanguina for ES leech. It's still easy to recover.

[torpid flare]

New swarm skill that makes bug minions that poisons enemies + tactician node that gives weapon damage to your minions

will it suck? probably. will it be cool? probably

[wanton ore]

anyone have any idea how to calculate attack speed in poe2, i cant get pob to match ingame even with character porting

i am trying to calculate if new sunder changes are actually a buff or not but following how pob does the calcs doesnt even match

[round escarp]

I got big stonks on indigon this league with incinerate

[edgy hollow]

Hmm I'm planning to run a support build with merit of service turtle charm so not sure how else to recover ES

[round escarp]

can you trigger channeling stills?

[tulip needle]

I don't think you can convince me not to start LA Deadeye at this point. I know it will work

They designed the new mechanics so the literal most important metrics is maps/hour and movement speed is the only meaningful way to improve that

[round escarp]

For blackflame cov normal chaos damage wont ignite right?

[acoustic gale]

doesnt sound like it will

[round escarp]

I was really hoping that it would. But yeah that makes sense. Damn a guy can dream lol

[north talon]

so only fire spells yeah you were correct

[tulip needle]

Is anyone here super fast at leveling ranger? I've been trying and oh boy is it miserable.

[round escarp]

Was that screenshot from the Livestream?

[north talon]

yes

[round escarp]

Thanks. U da homie.

[alpine wedge]

you guys think we will get a full reveal of all new gems and such before release?

[modest ingot]

When can we start expecting to see league started builds for 0.3.0 on maxroll and other build sites?

like when do they usually start popping up

or

at the least when to see early overviews of how the meta is going to look like/league starter builds, to get the baseline of what to play/what to expect?

[shell wasp]

Likely when PoB has the data

Im sure you can find at least some ideas though from the patch notes and in discord

[wooden iris]

hey guys - are there any resources we can look at regarding the new ascendancy + skill trees?

[hoary bolt]

the ascendancy changes are all in the patch notes

we dont have tree yet, and we wont until the patch

gl

[wooden iris]

noted with thanks, much appreciated 🙂

Fingers crossed for dual wielding 2handers

Huh, looks like 0 changes for titan - hope that's not the case 👀

[hoary bolt]

eh titan was already in a solid spot tbh

not too weak, not too strong

it fills its niche well

[wooden iris]

think so? im hoping i can revist titangrasp titan again - tbf i played warrior only at launch, not the amazon league

[hoary bolt]

titan is pretty versatile due to hulking form

anything that scales well with small passives scales well on titan

[wooden iris]

true, im looking forward to it - giga stoked to return to bonk

[fickle orbit]

Thoughts on going pure eva deadeye with dex stacking for life/deflect/acrobatics, vs eva/es with ghost dance?

eva/es would be able to get significantly less eva, not sure if acrobatics will be worth with it without mirror tier gear

and with changes to ES in Third Edict, ghost dance seems to be the only viable way to recover it (assuming its not changed)

[north talon]

I mean Titan is indirectly getting buffed with a denser passive tree

less travel nodes taken = more things buffed by hulking form

[pearl scroll]

oh yeah its big brain time

[shell wasp]

@fickle orbit might not be the best play but Im probably going to mess with deflect just cuz it is new haha

And apparently you can get 100% deflect?

[fickle orbit]

its basically suppression from poe1

but for phys and ele

[shell wasp]

Yea, seems dope to me

[fickle orbit]

agree

[north talon]

The major difference that we have seen is every source we have seen (other than tactician) is direct evasion conversion. So you won't be putting it on armor or ES builds. At least in theory

[shell wasp]

Yea we'll see how that plays out, I'm sure there will be some uber meta breaking build that dips their toe into it somehow

Havent played much since the start of when huntress dropped so not 100% sure what to expect. Still reading patch notes and such

[fickle orbit]

Yeah but what about eva/es hybrids

unless that stat literally cant roll on non-pure eva bases

[north talon]

I mean I assume they will abuse the hell out of it unles the conversion is super bad somehow

I expect ES/Evasion to be the best defense in 0.3.0

[arctic crypt]

i like the concept if you do more with this can you update me. i was planing on doing some with hollow palm

[oblique gulch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1mwfyqf/chayula_gained_damage_as_chaos_hyperscale_concept/

i detailed it here

[arctic crypt]

ok thanks

[alpine parrot]

just hope i can continue doing my autos/leap goes brr amazon

next patch

was bringer of rain touched/changed?

[drifting cedar]

no but giants blood means you get way less life now

oh wait right bringer of rain

yes

[thin vessel]

X3 on gloves. = 45%, darkness enthroned with gloves slot x2 and 100% increased effect can get you to 105% chance not to consume empowered attacks

Means we can abuse mantra of destruction as well as other empower shennenigans, not sure if worth but..

[alpine parrot]

was it changed?

[hoary bolt]

BoR is unchanged

[drifting cedar]

unchanged

[alpine parrot]

[drifting cedar]

i forgot what it did in this game

[hoary bolt]

but its better in context with the fact that giants blood is worse

[alpine parrot]

i think ive reached around 500k dps with autos before i used the fun shrine mace/had a better one

so this gonna be nice now that theres less str req

didnt even have that much good items

[drifting cedar]

hey I havent played much since early 0.2, did tempered runes make it into the game? they dont appear to be on trade site

They are mentioned in this hotfix..
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3764759
and are on poedb..
https://poe2db.tw/us/Greater_Tempered_Rune

[cursive girder]

What ascendancies are looking good to people with the changes they’ve announced for 0.3?

[sinful elm]

The options are literally limitless, all these nerfs won’t even hold a candle to how strong we will still be with all this new shit.

[candid hollow]

will mirage archer gain heat?

[verbal sonnet]

What website you guys use for build guides?

[gaunt ether]

is it not possible to make multiple spikes at once with earthshatter in this game

looks like ass in this game after trying out poe 1 and playing it

[hoary bolt]

there's a support for that

upheaval

[gaunt ether]

Yeah but its only 2 extra, and the skill either goes too far away or too tight together lol

[static plinth]

Putting Impale on one of Staggering Palm or Wind Blast should be pretty effective right?

Since the one it isnt on will extract the impales

[hoary bolt]

its basically just a 30% more phys support gem for either

which is solid

[thin vessel]

I wanna to try some meme blood monk fantasy with bloodmage with phys quarterstaff skills, not sure if viable but bloodmage nodes seems good

[shut basalt]

I did a nice psn Chaos Bolt build with Bloodmage and that's been buffed a lot

does 12% more damage after lvl 11, inflicts 1-3 wither stacks for 4s on hit

Bloodmage now generates life remnants on hit

[proper vapor]

I would like to try SORC fireball + blackflame or WITCH Infernalist + blackflame
But I dont have idea how to build it and what should I scale in gear and passives - chaos or fire...

[shut basalt]

They did nerf the max life from life remnants to 50% of your hp instead of 100% though

that's a sizeable nerf

[uncut bay]

I feel like the deadeye bloodmage meta simply continues

what would be a good AOE clearing skill for a rake blood hunt bloodmage?

[sharp thorn]

I doubt anyone trades currencies on the website. Try ingame exchange. Maybe there are some.

[rich bolt]

with the new exceptional weapons and the dhalia liniage support gem you can get a lot of levels on skills now very easily is 40 the cap or can you go past that?

[static plinth]

40 is the hardcap yeah

[humble dove]

I believe you would want to scale chaos damage, and then ignite magnitude/duration if you want to scale the ignite damage. Damage conversion happens before scaling, so you'd want to scale chaos instead of fire, however ignite magnitude/duration should still affect the damage because it is still an Ignite ailment. Since the spells are still fire spells, you should still be able to use things like infusions, so for example Firestorm should still be able to consume a fire infusion to increase its area of effect. Despair and Withered should work since they affect chaos damage taken and resistance. However, I don't believe effects like Contagion will work. I don't think Contagion currently works on the Blackflame unique ring, which also converts ignite to chaos damage, so Dark Effigy is probably also not compatible.

In terms of ascendancies to try, I'm considering Infernalist for themeing, Stormweaver for general spellcasting buffs and infusion support, or Acolyte of Chayula for chaos damage buffs without getting too far away from the keystone on the tree. I think I'm leaning towards Chayula.

[stiff depot]

So, the new chayula has a node with 1% Max darkness per 1% chaos res
Correct me if im wrong
But considering it doesn't specify uncapped res and ci gives 100% chaos res
Doesn't that mean u get 100% Max darkness from CI

[humble dove]

CI is immunity, not res right?

So I don't believe so

[stiff depot]

Also, would darkness fall under global defences?

Well, yes it is immunity, but it gives your character 100% chaos res

[unreal sierra]

CI doesnt give resistance

[stiff depot]

So that's just a poe1 thing?

[unreal sierra]

it didnt give resistance in poe1 too

you're just immune

[stiff depot]

So why does my char sheet get 100% chaos res in at least one of the games

[unreal sierra]

you must have misremembered, it never gave resistances

[stiff depot]

Mmmm. I'll log on when I get home and see

[humble dove]

Just tested it myself, it doesn't give you chaos resistance in either game. So to answer your question, no CI will not affect your Max Darkness.

[stiff depot]

Thanks yo!

[stiff depot]

To clarify
I didn't misremember
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3081914

It used to set it to 100% for visual purposes but doesn't anymore

[unreal sierra]

oh okay, wasnt aware of that

but it always worked same way as just ignoring chaos damage that you would receive, it was just visual inconsistency

[humble dove]

even then, it was only display and did not actually affect your resistance, they changed it when things that scaled off your chaos resistance were added to avoid the confusion.

[dense socket]

Is toxic domain supposed to function like TR, and it can proc the pods itself? Or need a second skill to do anything?

[stiff depot]

Yeah it's a good change , cwith how ci works is separate to res and this makes it clear

I guess I've played so much of poe1 it bled into my understanding of poe2

[silver anvil]

is there anything that lets me scale my damage off dex? Howa gives attack speed but that's all i know

scale off dex or accuracy, i guess

[junior shuttle]

Pillar of the caged god Quarterstaff, and huntress ascendancy dex/accuracy stacking for crit are some others also

[silver anvil]

crit caps out somewhere, right?

[acoustic loom]

does any build wizards know if chayula would be viable for league start? been wanting to run one since it was announced lol

[brittle anvil]

at 100% crit chance

[unreal sierra]

probably we need to see whole tree first to know

[acoustic loom]

[woven depot]

I can almost guarantee it’ll be strong

it might’ve even been over buffed

[stiff depot]

why do you say that? (genuinely curious, I want to play chayula if I can)

I assume its got something to do with the volatility node

[woven depot]

Guaranteeing purple flames is a huge damage boost

[stiff depot]

undeniably, but doesnt each remnant still have their own separate fade-away timer

[woven depot]

The only real downside in the changes is the loss of ES leech

[woven depot]

They should yea, no words that’s been changed but it’s not hard to maintain as it is and looks like a net gain in generation

[main latch]

What u guys think whats gonna be S tier league starter?

[stiff depot]

honestly? I think shockwave totem warbringer will be insane but I refuse to play totems

[main latch]

personally I think i will go with smith of kitava, than see how other builds develop with all the changes

[dusk hill]

Just curious I wanted to play X bow and then later a poison or bleed build not utilizing x bow necessarily. Can Deadeye or Ranger pull off just as good or better x bow builds than mercs? Since Poison will be pathfinder for my other spec later I can still utilize Ranger for xbow and not be outshined by Mercenaries?

[pearl scroll]

How does sprinting work in demon form? That might be the reason why they didnt add the new shapeshifter class because they would need to sprinting animations for the shapes as well

[eternal meadow]

Does Decaying Hex currently work with Blasphemy?

[verbal lantern]

No

[drifting cedar]

Think the new high velocity pseudo impale damage will apply to each projectile of fragmentation rounds?

since they combine into a single hit it's hard for me to say, not sure how this works with stuff like flame wall etc

[slender furnace]

I believe they talked about that directly in the qa

[drifting cedar]

in the video?

[north talon]

They explicitly used shotguns as an example to exploit high velocity rounds

[round escarp]

Oh that's big

So check this out. Impale on blood hunt. Use HVR to consume the impale and use frag to bleed the target

Also have you guys looked at the new poison conc. It's like blood hunt on steroids no?

[atomic ether]

Hollow Palm - would you still convert thep hysical damage based on the skill using?

[minor wadi]

Is blackflame poison ignite a thing
Where you scale a ton of chaos dot and your fire spells both ignite and poison

[atomic halo]

yeah

[foggy cliff]

With all the cool changes am I crazy to want to play skeletal snipers this league 😂😂😂. Minion accuracy changes making me feel like it would be way better now. Running around with 30 skele snipers

[fast wind]

Accracy only applies to melee minons

[foggy cliff]

Ohhh

So skellie snipers is gonna be shit then?

[fast wind]

Nvm

Just reread it

Its all minons

Kinda crazy then

Im just glad of the changes so i can try out my tri element sorc again

[stark kestrel]

What are your rough plans?

[drifting cedar]

what ascendancy would this be?

the interesting thing for black flame covenant for me was the potential to proliferate ignites with contagion, but with the change to easy ignites from solar orb/flamewall unsure how useful that will be

[novel ridge]

Are Ballistas looking turbo nerfed or are all those nerfs supposed to be balanced out by the "they now use your weapon" change?

[sterile latch]

what makes sense is they're turbo buffed with a high end weapon.

[drifting cedar]

Yeah they're likely buffed high end, and you can do stuff like howa totems/giga damage rings for totems

but they won't just be a guaranteed damage source for campaign for attack builds independent of weapon drops

Is mirage archer bow only? Patch note says projectile attacks. Surely it doesn't work with spears, crossbows, grenades, concoctions? Molten blast?

[fast wind]

Probably running/ trying to make painters servent work

[scarlet sandal]

Im really curious how this new ignite works its a shame we cant try it out before the new leagues up

[gaunt ether]

Does the sunder change mean youll be able to spam it like in poe1?

[static plinth]

You could do that anyway

Do you mean in an attack speed sense

[gaunt ether]

Well, be able to move i guess

[static plinth]

Cuz yeah its way faster

[gaunt ether]

only reason i didnt use it since it locks you in place

And cant be cancelled (while still going off)

[static plinth]

Probably still has those problems

You can just do it way faster so its not as bad

[tidal birch]

Is there already an estimate what good league starting builds will be, or is it to early?

[gaunt ether]

id bet on hollow palm monk being pretty solid

[sterile latch]

i didnt even try to check hollow palm, i cant imagine a build without weapon being good late game, balance-wise...

and i'll probably regret 😂

[gaunt ether]

Demonform had no weapon and did just fine, concoctions even after nerf could still do pretty much everything

given concoctions used deepest tower

[sterile latch]

demonform was more a bug than a feature

[static plinth]

It makes all quarterstaff skills scale damage like spells

[gaunt ether]

Even without snapshotting it was fine

[sterile latch]

yes i just mean, why a build sparing half its budget be as good as a weapon one

[static plinth]

The only thing HPT misses out on is + skill levels

[gaunt ether]

wish we could see the passive tree before launch

[static plinth]

You're just moving your budget to buying expensive EVA gear

At crazy budgets itll probably be objectively worse

[sterile latch]

yeah true, EVA might be the 0.1 ES

[static plinth]

Do we know what Crackling Palm does

[gaunt ether]

Hasnt been updated on poedb yet

[static plinth]

Damn theres some uniques from Dawn i didnt know about

I thought Mind of The Council got cut before release

And what do you MEAN there's a quiver that summons frogs

[scarlet sandal]

How does one gain a fire infusion..

[gaunt ether]

Support gem?

[static plinth]

I wonder how good Nebuloch Perfect Strike with Perfected Endurance will be

[scarlet sandal]

In the 3.0 patch notes it says for some of the skills if they consume a fire infusion they'll do xyz.. where does one fet a fire infusion to consume haha

[pliant edge]

Snapping solar orb

[scarlet sandal]

Wait.. wdym by snapping? Like casting a fireball at it?

[pliant edge]

No, you cast the spell Snap(used to be cold snap) on your solar orb and it generates a fire infusion

There are other ways but idk them from the top of my head

[scarlet sandal]

Ohhh sweet thanks!!

[hallow lichen]

Anyone trying the new fire skills on the warrior?

[faint current]

🌺 Hiii! I'm a casual exile and was wondering if this was the place where I posted the character or spell I wanted to play and the people here help make the build for me?

[inland fractal]

did shockwave totem just get gutted?

[gaunt ether]

If people dont here, usually i check poe ninja for a skill and see what people are doing with it

Or just straight up searching on youtube

some website like maxroll have decent guides to follow if youre newer

[strong smelt]

Do es recharge nodes affect life recharge from eternal youth

[slender furnace]

It still has scaling...we've had a form of this in poe1 for years

[slender furnace]

Uh that's not how it really works unless you find some kind soul out there willing to spend hours making a build for you for free

[sage jungle]

do we know how + proj will interact with arc? will it just get +1 chain?

[slender furnace]

Need to see the gem or updated patch notes

[sage jungle]

i kinda wanna try arc deadeye

[faint current]

thats so silly

you're palying the archer as mage 🤭

[round escarp]

Why does blood hunt do so much damage?

[cloud pebble]

Has anyone done extensive testing with Whirling Slash + Explosive Spear? I'm trying to plot out a alternative to Incinerate. I usually level with those 2 until I can use Incinerate, but I haven't tried to see how much the transferred Explosive Spear can be scaled with what damage mods, etc

And I've never understood if Ice/Lightning Whirling Slash snapshots transfer their own damage bonuses or if it's purely DOT

[uncut bay]

explosive spear's ignite won't compare to the incinerate ignite

why do an ignite whirling slash build at all

do a regular whirling slash build or a twister build

[cloud pebble]

I'm sure it won't but does it scale at all in a similar way?

[uncut bay]

idk if lightning/cold works now

it would scale from the ignite just like it did with incinerate

you just won't deal damage, but it will scale in a similar way

[cloud pebble]

Three Dragons looks to be an option

use a frozen ground spell and scale it from there maybe

Maybe Incinerate Whirling Slash will still be viable, but late in the endgame

[uncut bay]

sounds complicated

[sterile spade]

this is my first league from start... when 0.3 builds start showing up on maxroll/mobalytics?

[uncut bay]

most of them are already out there, since 2.0

you just have to add some new support gems and what not

[cloud pebble]

It's already complicated, spell is probably going to be the only decent way to scale Whirling Slash damage because it has flat damage

[sterile spade]

i want to read a guide for a monk hollow fist build

[uncut bay]

just do a whirling slash build, like add the lightning to it with the unique boots and that's it

[alpine wedge]

1 day before

[uncut bay]

add rapid assault and blood hunt to it

[sterile spade]

ty!!

[uncut bay]

so you can do this combo while inside a whirling slash

here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9qZZBAxfw&t=2646s

[cloud pebble]

Yeah, until the new passive tree, supports and uniques are revealed, it's not going to be a good guide anyways.

[cloud pebble]

Yeah, but then what's the point of WS?

[uncut bay]

it deals damage and lets you move around faster

just watch the video

beware the combo support gem was nerfed, I forgot in what way

[slender furnace]

Welcome to poe.

[cloud pebble]

I watched that and many other videos before. I'm kinda set on figuring out a spell version of it that uses WS snapshot as the damage source tbh, I know, I know, might be a lost cause

[uncut bay]

you do you

I love experimenting too

[cloud pebble]

I'm not hedging all my bets on it though since there's a new damage aura skill anyways hehe

[uncut bay]

maybe if you switch to a second weapon set with + to skills and spam some curse or some spell that consumes lots of mana

you can charge up your incinerate very quickly and just do your incinerate WS build

incinerate is now way stronger

[cloud pebble]

Yeahhhh, I'm definitely going to try it out. Ball Lightning can create burning ground now too, so maybe that will be a sufficient replacement

Essence Drain / Contagion is going to be a great build still anyways, so I will probably start with that. The new Incinerate dynamics and other stuff might end up making it just feel like too much of a chore for the build to be fun to play lol. It's already pushing it, gear swapping and then waiting for the Elemental Conflux, and then swapping back.

[compact tulip]

Is there a website that allows me to search for every single source of a given modifier? Like I'm searching by modifier itself so for example I want "life recovery rate" and it would show me all items, skills, passive tree, etc etc etc EVERY source of "life recovery rate" in one easy search

[astral geode]

do you think there is gonig to be a viable cold deadeye build or do you think deadeye has to have some lightning or it wont be good

[north talon]

I mean I expect lightning to be better because chain is the best damage propegation method for clear, but cold is probably playable with the new skills

[astral geode]

i wonder if a lightning build with call of the brotherhood ring would be cool...

[round escarp]

Is there anyway to scale ailment duration at the moment?

[compact tulip]

The only real thing that hits every ailment at once would be Temporal chains

[fast wind]

Question. Anyone know what the devs did to generate a shit ton of twisters in the reveal?

[warm mulch]

quick one, how do we feel about xbow deadeye? i know everyone is talking about de but still-

[noble token]

passive tree damage other than minion damage doesnt affect minions by default right?

so taking freeze buildup also wouldnt affect minions?

[cloud pebble]

Does Talisman Of Egrin combo with Blasphemy? Or do you have to cast the curse?

[round escarp]

Tornado with whirlwind slash

[elder widget]

Is it possible to inflict two shocks with the same hit when using Stormweaver's Strike Twice notable?
Also, if you use a skill that consumes shock, like Siphoning Strike, on an enemy that has two shocks on them, does that skill consume both at the same time?

[timid basin]

Anyone theorycrafting on new int skill gem Frost darts?

thinking about it with amazon ascendancy

[mellow shale]

have any numbers for the frost darts been shown anywhere?

[half mango]

Doew ne1 know a large Area of affect damage over time skill. That's ground effect or centered on your exile. Like whirling slash but damage over time, or like poe1's coldsnap or vortex.

I usee the incinerate whirling slash last season, but ik not 100% sure that will work in 0.3 because changes to incinerate

And possibly whirling slash snapshot, which now has to be done with whirlwind Lance

[fickle orbit]

For LA deadyes in dawn, what do they do for bossing? (ive not played bow builds in poe2)

i dont mean stuff like uber arbiter etc

but map bosses, trials, etc

[wicked sparrow]

Does this increase the physical damage for shield skills or is this applied after?

[drifting cedar]

after, shields get damage from just the number on the shield

[wicked sparrow]

darn

[drifting cedar]

think its possible to use mirage archer with things like oil grenade on 2nd weapon only to apply the debuff? For example, on a 2h mace warrior

[uncut bay]

lightning rod tornado shot, lightnimg arrow

[drifting cedar]

lightning rod on mirage archer is gonna be nice i bet

If I'm reading the ignite changes right, you can essentially prime the target to be ignited with any fire damage, but then once they are fully flammable you have to carefully hit them with a big hit for an ignite that deals damage?

[proper pagoda]

can high velocity rounds be good? idk how u would build it and what u would do for clear?

does cluster grenade shotgun?

[fickle orbit]

I think now the goal with HVR is to debuff enemy,, and then use something fast hitting to hit them as many times as you can during debuff duration

so perhaps HVR -> rapid fire?

but you need to break armor

So Break armor -HVR - Rapidfire?

[fickle orbit]

yes and no. you can hit enemy with multiple mini grenades yes. But the spread is VERY wide.

[proper pagoda]

can you reduce the radius with reduced aoe or something? still seems good. its 18x greandes and i think u can multi proj it to like 4-5 grenades + 2 casts or something

so each cast is like 90 attacks, maybe only 30 hit or something thats still insane for HVR

[fickle orbit]

i dont think you can reduce aoe, but i could be wrong

spread aoe*

[proper pagoda]

well even if u cant it still seems like it might be good. idk

[fickle orbit]

you can test it on live now

[scarlet sandal]

Anyone trying anything with arc?

[fickle orbit]

just cut a gem

[proper pagoda]

but idk how u clear on crossbow now cause they nuked galvanic thing from orbit?

[north talon]

It probably works fine against most bosses since they have large hitboxes

[fickle orbit]

Tooty: Cluster clears well

[proper pagoda]

wouldnt the cooldown make it annoying though?

[fickle orbit]

it does

[proper pagoda]

ive never played merc at all so

[fickle orbit]

so you use other nades too

[proper pagoda]

i see

[fickle orbit]

explosive nade is pretty good

Cluster/explosive + Explosive shot

[north talon]

Shotgun clear potential looks to be going up imo with the double barrel changes

Since they are combining it with auto reload

[vestal sequoia]

when can we see the new tree please ?

[north talon]

Probably Thursday

When we get preload

[proper pagoda]

theres a shotgun?

[vestal sequoia]

Ah nice ! what class do you think will be S tier

what are your expectations

[north talon]

I mean there are 4 shotgun skills atm.

Fragmentation Rounds
Incendiary Shot
Permafrost Bolts
Galvanic Shards

[proper pagoda]

oh

[north talon]

All skills with clipsize 1 firing different kinds of shotguns. To make them clear you need to figure out how to bypass reloading. New Double Barrel 3 is a really straight forward path to that

[proper pagoda]

can i make crossbow work on deadeye with grenades? i feel like deadeye is so much better

and what is double barrelk?

[north talon]

Sure, deadeye is great with any projectile skill

[proper pagoda]

what does new double barrel do?

[proper pagoda]

i see