2┃build-planning

[gleaming bison]

https://youtu.be/kKrSYs5O2Aw?si=aD_WPDyS7HX3ufb5
does anyone know what the explosions are when he kills enemies

[gleaming kite]

he says at the 1:10ish mark it's flicker strike

nutty build

[quartz ether]

how do I find the seed of a jewel like this? To figure out what numbers to look for to match

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[stark kestrel]

Am I correct in assuming that I can't dual wield chober chaber with a sceptre if I have giants blood? I don't have a warrior to test.

[static torrent]

Giant's Blood makes it so that a two-handed weapon can be equipped in a single hand, so you would be able to wield it with a Sceptre just fine.

The only thing you'd need to keep in mind is the tripled attribute requirements.

[burnt dagger]

Can someone help me with minion build fron maxroll? Im in act 3 and doing no damage at all

[stark kestrel]

Yeah the 300 int and 225 strength would be tricky.

[wraith palm]

It’s voltaic mark. He has the mtx for it.

[obtuse valve]

I want to route to Flicker Strike build, does this staff or this staff be able to do fine dmg with the build?

[wraith palm]

Dang dude that second one is juicy haha. Either will for sure get the build going. The only thing I’d recommend trying to find is something with at least +3% crit chance. You want flicker to be at 100% since all the hits are based on the first one. I was able to one flick the game with a +3% staff that also had +level of melee skills and was ~400dps

[obtuse valve]

I guess some of these could do the trick? 🤔

I even have this but it would be more bonker if I turn on the nodes for staff

Sacrifice from upper nodes for crit dmg for crit chance to make it it or maybe sacrifice 1 slot of sup gem to Pinpoint critical, I guess.

Cause currently, I'm aiming for using what I have rather than buying for a new staff due to currency shortage

[median wharf]

Look for a megalo with it

[obtuse valve]

A what?

I'm sorry, I'm fresh new to the series

Oh, I found one staff with 3% crit

amost 4% even

[median wharf]

Its a jewel that allocates notables for you, so u dont gotta waste points to path to the nodes

[obtuse valve]

Ohhhh, like this one

Oh, wrong one

Megalomaniac

But which skill the build usually need when using that jewel?

[wraith palm]

I think the sweetspot for crit damage is 350-400%. One you get there, double check against attack damage nodes. When everything is critting, those attack damage nodes get an “icreases value” of your crit damage bonus and crit damage nodes start to lose to just attack damage / elemental damage etc

Even the little 10% ones haha.

[obtuse valve]

hmm 🤔

[obtuse valve]

This Siniter staff is fine enough right?

It doesn't have att speed but the Xesht's gloves or this node can make it up for the lack of att speed

[wraith palm]

Seems to me like that staff will be good to start working with. Attack speed is nice but not necessary with flickerstrike. The hit and run support gem can be nice but your shit out of luck if you have a short flicker and there’s other mobs around. Other stuff to watch out for is flat cold damage if you wanna do the herald of thunder + cast on freeze volt mark combo for clear

Or use a different skill for clear or whatever

[obtuse valve]

I was thinking about using Storm wave for clearing

I see most people use 3 heralds for the build

Or I got it wrong, the Storm wave is for getting charges and main clearing skill is flicker strike

[wraith palm]

Whatever works for clear works haha. Flicker alone won’t do the job though is what I meant

[obtuse valve]

Do you know any guild related to the build, I could have research and find what work for me.

[wraith palm]

There’s probably a bunch out there on yt, poe2 ninja uploads, etc. Cof volt mark + cold herald of thunder works well, particularly for invoker cause the ele damage you get

Just gotta keep up with mana, but mana remnants solves that pretty easy

[obtuse valve]

Oh yea, mana remnant is beast

also I have like 228 spirits, that would be enough right?

[wraith palm]

Herald of thunder + cof + mana remnants is 120 I think? + whatever else you want

[obtuse valve]

HoT but with Cold Infusion sup gem right?

cause I see you suggest cast of freeze

[wraith palm]

Yeah and embitter, glaciation, etc

If you get the extra damage as ele cores in your staff embitter is goated on hot haha. Innervate on cof volt mark and ice bite on hot

[obtuse valve]

hmm, as for ascendance nodes, I don't have to get to Avatar, yea?

I'm thinking about getting even the extra cold dmg and extra lightning dmg nodes

[wraith palm]

I’d take the extra damage as lightning and cold, the es and evasion to spirit, and meta gain nodes if you have all 8

[obtuse valve]

I got 8

[wraith palm]

Yeah that exactly but take avatar off and take the extra damage as cold

[obtuse valve]

Yep

I think I should keep Sunder my enemies

[wraith palm]

That’s ignore res on crit right

[obtuse valve]

Yep

[wraith palm]

Yeah. Idr what everything is called lol sorry

[obtuse valve]

and this one, I think I can just replace with one sup gem from the trigger spell then it's good to go.

Impetus

[wraith palm]

Oh yeah I had nodes mixed in my head

[obtuse valve]

I will see what I could do. As for now, gonna do some research about upcoming routing :D

[wraith palm]

Welcome to being addicted to flickerstrike

[obtuse valve]

also I believe this helmet would be nice to use too, I spot from a high budget build they used this

[obtuse valve]

It's a cool skill after all, looks like Omnislash skill (an ultimate skill from Dota's character named Juggernaut) so I want to have that feeling with PoE2 too.

[wraith palm]

Jugg was my favorite 1 when I played for that reason haha. Cool ass ability

[obtuse valve]

Agree 😄

I will return to this chat with my update if I need any help :D

[wraith palm]

Definitely prioritize getting to 100% crit first, use pinpoint crit support get. Should be good to go with whatever else you want to do once there haha.

[obtuse valve]

Yep

[next moat]

wrong game 🙂

[stark kestrel]

Does anvils weight: Break armour equal to 10% of damage dealt, work with totem damage? It doesn't say anything about 'you' so I'd assume so.

[weary valley]

anyone have god guide for spiral volley build ?

[fervent ether]

anyone know what exactly is the movement speed penalty when attacking or casting spells? is it like, 60% less, 70% less? would like to know exact number

[coarse iron]

hey does ignite even scale with minion damage ?

like using spirutal aid yk

[coarse iron]

and yeah another question is ignite affected by "+flat damage to spells" i asusme no right

[static torrent]

I assume you mean to be asking in the PoE1 channels, there's no Spiritual Aid in PoE2, nor can you find '+X damage to Spells' outside of Flame Wall.

[coarse iron]

oops

[coarse iron]

ty for the info didnt notice it lol

[subtle snow]

does the 19% bonus damage on hits against rares/uniques affect the dps shown on your skills? this is my jewel it shows lower dps than some other stuff i have but im assuming its actually higher damage?

10% increased Damage with Spears
14% increased Critical Damage Bonus with Spears
19% increased Damage with Hits against Rare and Unique Enemies

[static torrent]

Iirc, it wouldn't affect the displayed DPS since it's a conditional property, as the DPS calculation in the Skill screen doesn't evaluate those.

[subtle snow]

ok cool, ill keep rocking that gem then ty!

[dark lintel]

Which build/class that plays around unique weap?

[median wharf]

Ls

[glad moat]

Yo any nerds

Tried chaos bows

I need a build to 1 bow arrow attack kill pinnacles

Got enough juice for it just need the items and build

[gloomy compass]

Does overflow gained from Couture of Crimson stay on lich with eternal life if you swap out the chestplate?

[glad moat]

Yh should do

Unless the chest grants it

[naive nexus]

Alt-swap enjoyer here.
Question: has anyone done a lot of leech/weapon swapping?

I want to put leech passives on my weapon swap, I including the never-ending leech notable.

Question: when I swap to my NOT leech weapon passives, so I stop/pause/continue leeching as-is?

[glass lintel]

hey can anyone help me find a blood mage build that uses a wand? everything i find is using a spear

[sharp thorn]

Because rake is the best bleed skill, yeah.
But you can search here.
https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Blood+Mage
You can filter to show builds with rare wands only. It's not a build guide so you have to figure out if it's good or not.

[austere reef]

I could be wrong but I would assume that the leech still persists. And I’m pretty sure the leech would still be using your “leech weapon set” passives as it was the hit from that weapon set that initiated the leech. Would have to do testing to know for sure but I’m pretty sure it would work that way

[buoyant dawn]

Anyone have a suggestion for flicker strike? I want a toon taht can clear well and do bosses... im tired of LS but still having fun learning poe2.... any links or content creaters that you recomend?

[oblique vapor]

does chrono nt have a single good build?

all of them seem mid

[stark kestrel]

Question, does EDC snapshot or not?

[wanton night]

Question why does earthshatter with giant blood with 0.48 attack times while dual wielding attack fast and some times very slow

[novel swan]

anyone on here good at fissure of snaking? Having issues with t16's damn 😦 iggn JuannTap#2920

[median wharf]

nop, no one here good at vfos

[boreal zinc]

Does anyone know if the below still combo?

I am trying it and it doesnt seem to be able to proc from me hitting?

[gleaming kite]

The charm activates when you take cold damage

The tiara causes you to take physical damage

Oh the conversion thing.

[simple island]

What DPS is generally required for T4 Pinnacles? I haven't lookat at Pobs for Poe2

[median wharf]

Theres no enrage timer, dont die

[fluid geode]

When dual wielding with 2 weapons each swing depends on the individual weapon attack speed. If both weapon have a big difference in attack speed u can see the difference, different attack speed from the base weapon attack speed itself or suffix.

[gleaming bison]

is enfeeble or temporal chains better for endgame mapping

[inner moss]

At what point does a generic Accuracy/Phys Damage spear start to do more damage than a Tangletongue unqiue? I'm running this build https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/d7fbcda0-a6bd-481f-a910-fb039d2fb3a3/builds/de8ba91e-dfbb-45e4-b45c-510b28dd5a65 and tangletongue has been great but I'm wondering what the upgrade path is and how I make sure it's actually an upgrade

[simple island]

There are no hotdog buns in French Toast. Notice how what I said had nothing to do with your original statement? Yeah

[median wharf]

“Required”? Hello?

[sharp thorn]

More than 0.

I mean, do what you want. Depending on a pinnacle boss you can make a character that's unkillable, so that you don't need millions of dps.

[static torrent]

Yeah, when it comes to what is required, any damage will eventually kill the boss. When it comes to what might be recommended, you'd probably get different answers.

[sterile spade]

Hey guys, what is the best minion lich build atm? How does it perform when compared to DoT Lich?

[potent hatch]

could someone help me figure out why the ehp is so drastically different in these?

[static torrent]

You're in the PoE2 channel, Trickster and Shadow in general don't exist in PoE2 (yet).

[potent hatch]

sorry

[foggy plover]

Hey guys, I found a call of brotherhood in ssf for my LA deadeye. Is it worth using it to convert my lightning to cold? If so, any tips, aka supports etc to work with it

[sterile spade]

What is the strongest cheap build for maps and bosses

[median wharf]

lightning spear

[timid mortar]

my pobb link shows this, is it skipping two nodes?

[glad moat]

I think u havent seen xesth starting overlapping abilities

As if his cast speed isnt 10xed lol

[median wharf]

Takes me 4 minutes to kill t4 xesht on my warrior, so yeah just dont die

[sharp thorn]

He just starts to use more than one ability each attack cycle. If you know what to do it's more annoying than deadly.

[glad moat]

Yh so its like a soft enrage

Ofc u can dodge but overlapping of his stuff should be replaced by more dmg so its harder hitting

[median wharf]

Ngl, not rly, xesht has 1 hard hitting attack, dodge that and u are good. But to call additional damage required definitely dont seem right to me

[glad moat]

Then him casting hands and the ive doll in the same second is a bug

Ive not found it a lot cus i kill him after first attack at max , but times ive seen it happen

[median wharf]

Multi hands?

[glad moat]

Usually after a rotation of his attacks

The ice projectiles and the ground hands

Literally having to dodge all at same time lul

[median wharf]

Thats not even bad, bring some thaw chamrs

[glad moat]

Its fine i said they shoulf just not overlap imo

Also it gets laggy

[median wharf]

Throw ur totems and then just focus on dodging

[median wharf]

Thats just how that boss is, its fine

Ur weakness is that u kill it too fast and never learned the grind

[glad moat]

I jever see any design indicating he randompy overlaps

Randomly overlaps his attacks

Idk if he should overlap in the first place

[median wharf]

I mean there many games ive played having to dodge multiple atk/mech overlaps

Its not that bad

U arent used to it, and thats ok

[glad moat]

Again its not clear intended as doesnt always happen

Some weird rng stuff

[median wharf]

No its clearly intended

I can assure u, fight it for 3 mins plus

😂

[glad moat]

Oh xd

Nah thats way too long

Even on kitava i still bonked him under a min

Not a fan of 99% defence 1% attack

[median wharf]

Thats ur playstyle, its fine

But that play style isnt required

[glad moat]

Yh

I agree

But long feels dreadful for a ... Bad loot

[median wharf]

Breach part of breach stone is profitable enough to run

Boss is just whatever, that means a build that doesnt have good singletarget can farm breachstones too

Unless u wait till u have enough single target damage or born into currency, theres no reason to skip those till u do

And t4 boss is like triple t3 boss’s hp

[torn tusk]

what

how do I delete lol

wrong one

https://pobb.in/nRWA6oJy7EbK

mjolnir earthquake etc. The problem is I easily die on juiced maps. Also bossing damage is not there. I am using the chernobog version and not using giant's blood. Don't need to do Pinnacles with this, just mapping and map bosses

[median wharf]

Its just a bad gimmick build, u have fun farming non deli t15s with

Trying to build phys max on warrior is incredibly difficult, so u get oneshotted easily in juiced maps

https://poe2.ninja/pob/9f6c

Just to give u a comparison, this is what i run, and i still get one shotted in high deli maps

[torn tusk]

Man that's what I was scared of lol

even my Kitava dies easily

compared to high ES builds

[median wharf]

Warrior just suck in poe2, nothing we can do

[torn tusk]

Like, some juiced maps I can whiz through but, the max hit is just too low

[median wharf]

Look at my max, with enfeeble aura and loyalty on rhoa

Still oneshotted in high deli

[torn tusk]

oh damn

okay high deli to be fair will one shot even LS builds if you're not careful I guess

like 150% ?

[median wharf]

😂not even, i cant even do 60%

[torn tusk]

lol

you have life leech, rage etc ?

[median wharf]

under 40 its free for me

[median wharf]

And 800 regen on top

[torn tusk]

I see

[median wharf]

Tbf i have traded a lot of damage in testing, so that could be a factor

With mirror tier gear it should be better

[torn tusk]

I mean, the big boys on poe ninja have grand spectrum which is 25 div each

for 18% total more max life

or increased max life

I can buy that but don't want to rn lol

[median wharf]

Thats only 1k ish no?

[torn tusk]

less

it will be 600-700

[median wharf]

Yeah thats not gonna make a difference from where u are

[torn tusk]

you can basically go from 3k to 4k

more or less

[median wharf]

Yeah 4k is nothing

[faint fern]

Does teh supporting fire skill for Tactician count as always having minions/allys in your presence?

like for the "Presence Present" node

[normal blaze]

This is me
https://pobb.in/FqPGek0XG--E

The checkpoint I'm trying to reach of the build
https://pobb.in/K9_rWYZ1uVXb

I need help filling in some gaps, is there any thing I can do to fill in the 2mil dps shortage?
defensively I think I'm good

i know I'm 3 levels down but can that add 2mil dmg?

and first notice is my lack in accuracy rating, wondering how I can fit that into my gear? and the 3% cold resist I'm missing

[static torrent]

You're in the wrong channel, this is PoE2 build planning.

[normal blaze]

oh shit

lool

ty

[sharp thorn]

That's item from the wrong game. You need to ask in #1┃build-planning

[raven crown]

woops, thanks

[boreal zinc]

Can someone explain why there is this second circle on this image the top one? How?

[median wharf]

From nothing

Its an unique jewel

[boreal zinc]

the jewel is called from nothing?

crazy

[boreal zinc]

I assume the radius is always small

[median wharf]

🤔u are prob mistaking it for that other jewel. Controlled meta?

[remote narwhal]

Question

Does tangletounges forked crits effect all forks or no

[sharp thorn]

Generally in this game crits are all or nothing, so it has the same crit roll on all hits.

[remote narwhal]

So u can get a double roll on crits with tangletounge

On Spark

[sharp thorn]

Spark doesn't use spear. It's the spell skill.

[remote narwhal]

You can take spell blade

Melee weapons get spell dmg

[sharp thorn]

No, it's you have increased damage, not the weapon increases your damage.

[remote narwhal]

Ik that

That's what I was meaning

[static torrent]

That does not mean that all modifiers from the weapon apply to Spells. Tangletongue's Forks Critical Hits specifies 'Attacks with this weapon' in the tooltip.

[remote narwhal]

Ty that more clarified

[static torrent]

And different skills have different behaviours for how they roll for stuff like Critical Hits. If the skill is Sustained, it will roll each time it hits, otherwise it rolls once per skill use.

[remote narwhal]

That woulda been fun tho to use cast on dodge if it did work that way

[crisp oriole]

question, what resistance should i be getting on what armor to max out everything, like should i get 2 different resistances on my rings and amulet , and focus on getting one kind of resistance with chaos resistance on my armor? sorry im kinda new lol

[median wharf]

As long as u add everything together to max out res

U can even go for 3 types of res on a piece of gear

[craggy tiger]

Question, does anyone know, if the sacred flame scepter. Where it says (Allies in your Presence Gain (20–30)% of Damage as Extra Fire Damage) works with a companions lightning storm??? I have a bonkers idea for a build based around that idea. But not sure if it works. Thanks!

Or if you have a sceptre in standard i could borrow to test it, that would be great.

[craggy tiger]

Well, since i am not a streamer, and cannot afford to just randomly buy stuff to find out if it works or not. I will just put the idea out here.

Companions - lightning storms - sceptre - infernalist - unique exposure shield - lightning storms get extra damage, and ignite. Just walk around blocking while companions roast the whole screen/mobs.

I have had issues with te hlightning storms not doing a lot of damage against bosses. But the "extra" and the lowest resist, and uptime on an ignite. Might just work. Lightning storms are also capable of hitting enemies behind terrain as well.

Thanks!

[sly lava]

how do i equip shiel with two handed mace for smith of kitava ?

allocating the "Giant's Blood" keystone passive on the skill tree

[reef kelp]

Does anyone know if
Flammability curse+burning inscription works with fire spell on hit ?

[sharp thorn]

What's the "fire spell on hit" is it poe1 skill?

[static torrent]

Smith of Kitava

So no

[sharp thorn]

My bad.

[static torrent]

As for whether it works, check the Fire Spell on Hit more closely, it specifies Melee Attacks.

And if you mean triggering it with Fire Spell on Hit, Flammability should work, it's both a Spell and Fire

[reef kelp]

@static torrent cause my idea is burning inscription

[static torrent]

From my understanding, triggering it with Fire Spell on Hit it should work, but it shouldn't be too difficult to test it out.

[fleet juniper]

fellas question, does envenom support poison stacks with splinter of loratta?

[reef kelp]

Yes any % chance to poison will stack

[static torrent]

Mageblood doesn't exist in PoE2. Did you mean to ask this in https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[wicked parcel]

https://pobb.in/08WSt-9pkqWx how much this build cost aprox ?

[static torrent]

First check what game's channel you're posting in.

[wicked parcel]

i mean i plan to do this build wdym

[static torrent]

It's a PoE1 build. You're in a PoE2 channel.

[wicked parcel]

ah ok

[fickle orbit]

I am quite confident in my POB-fu for POE1, but i cant say same for POE2.

Can someone please tell me what kind of dps to aim for when trying to work with POB2, when planning builds? Like, i dont know if 50k dps is enough to kill ubers or barely enough to even finish campaign. What about 150k? 500k? 5mil?

How much EHP should i aim for?

Basically, "If im familiar with POE1 pob, what numbers etc should i be "aiming for" when using POE2 pob?"

because i assume its not 1:1 from poe1 to poe2

[wraith palm]

This is completely subjective to your build and play style tbh, I don’t think there’s a magic breakpoint besides trying to cap your resistances

[fickle orbit]

Im not trying to find magical breakpoints

im trying to get a ballpark estimation to figure out between "Lmao this is quin dps" and "Im going to be oneshotting ubers"

so that when im trying to plan a build, i can at least understand if it could work or if its completely raw

you can do it with POE1

but im not sure how to do it via POE2

[median wharf]

U can find out boss hp, then pob and see if ur damage is enough

Xesht t4 is 34mil, 500k dps sounds like a decent kill time

Ehp wise, its never enough, poe2 has a huge problem with that atm

We dont have multiple layers of defense

So u try ur best to dodge hard hitting attacks and not get oneshotted by basic attacks

[fickle orbit]

Cool ty

[obtuse ruin]

Recommended lightning spear build on deadeye, monk or rhoa?

[median wharf]

amazon is cheapest, de is better single target damage

[obtuse ruin]

what about the huntress version?

oh srry I meant monk*

[median wharf]

never played

[dark lintel]

whats the difference between raw crit chance vs effective chance?
do i only need to reach 100% on effective chance?

[tranquil anvil]

Any links to a Good Monk - Inv Ice strike build please. Just got to end game. Also is physical dmg a better stat to prio or 4+ melee skills?

[atomic halo]

phys

always flat is priority for attack

+level always secondary (unless caster)

[obtuse ruin]

can I have a quadrilla and a rhoa summoned at the same time as a huntress?

[fickle orbit]

I remember in all the early previews etc of Smith of Kitava, the "body armour" passive had no point cost. It even said on the passive itself "this doesnt cost a point".

but now im in POB2, and there's no such text on the passive. I went to the wiki, and the wiki also doesnt have this on the skill anymore.

I tried checking patch notes etc to see if maybe it was changed, but i can also find nothing relating to it.

Can someone confirm to me please if this passive is still "free" to allocate?

[static torrent]

Not sure what you're checking on the wiki, since

But it is free to allocate, that's the whole idea behind it, the passives afterwards are the ones that have a cost.

[fickle orbit]

i checked on poe2db

since poewiki seemed broken

fair enough

[fickle orbit]

Yeah im aware of that

[static torrent]

That's not technically the wiki, but anyway, here's what it is ingame

[fickle orbit]

I was just confused because i remembered it working like that, but POB confused me

Cool. Thanks for confirmation

[static torrent]

From my understanding, PoB2 is quite out of date, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just missing some details.

[fickle orbit]

Yeah. POB2 is massively behind POB1

Partially because its basically a brand new game, and not just a new update, and partially because AFAIK a lot of pob devs just dont care as much about POE2

[ebon crescent]

So im kinda winging a lightning build based off ziz and others. Any advice?

[static torrent]

Just to check, given your PoE1 role, did you intend to ask here or were you looking for https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129 ?

[ebon crescent]

Oh doh

My bad

[topaz estuary]

guys what ways are there to generate frozen ground
i know there's support gem that can do it
i found some unique boots that generate shocking ground when walking, is there anything like that for frozen ground?
i'm doing a twister build
i know fangs of frost can but having to parry is pretty awkward

[obtuse ruin]

Why would a huntress lightning spear build require strength?

I thought it'd be pure dex

[median wharf]

I mean spear reqs

Its not a lot

[topaz estuary]

anyone know what mods can spawn on what beast
like i wanna tame a beast with trail of ice and haste auro, but i'm not even sure if it's possible

[exotic compass]

Cast on crit frostbolt?

I played cold Twister and used frostbolt manually to start, but since invoker creates frozen ground naturally I typically didn't have to cast frostbolt more than once per map

Gl using fangs of frost or anything else besides frostbolt...

[vital plume]

Anyone got any recommendations for a fun off meta build?

[woven oriole]

I'm asking here too, it's a noob question: why doesn't anyone specify which permanent buffs to get in builds? I'd like to use a build, but I don't know which one to get.

[median wharf]

look on poe2ninja for similar builds

and see what they use

[woven oriole]

ty

[stark kestrel]

There is no rf in poe 2

[dark lintel]

30% inc dmg or 14%cd (i have 100% crit chance)

which is better?

[median wharf]

Pob

[median wharf]

First step u need is to find the right game

[modern moon]

lol

Curious if PoE 2 has the same DoT cap tho

[silent glade]

It does

[scenic drum]

Is warrior as viable in POE2 when compared to poe1

[ashen lake]

Yes

[median wharf]

Not even close

[abstract atlas]

Quick question, for lich, whats the best mapping build between: minion army, storm mage, and essence drain?

[formal silo]

One of the smoothest experiences I have had in poe 2 and I have played a crazy amount of builds at this point was essence drain/contagion lich. From leveling to pinnacle bosses it was so smooth. The damage falls off a bit in t4 bosses but you are basically immortal also, very fun. Minions are great also but I don’t enjoy them as much. Deadrabbit had a really good lich build but there are a lot out there

[topaz estuary]

that's a good idea, sadly i don't have any spirit, or int, or currency 💀

[dawn spire]

Poe1 doesn't have a warrior class

I'm partial to essence drain chronomancer, personally, but lich is fine as well

[exotic compass]

Use a low level frostbolt, low as you can

Scattershot, arcane tempo to start, then add wild shards. you can also tinker with the "ground effect" support gems like despoiler

I got the basics down from watching 787prada maybe his recent video guide will help you out, I guess I never asked but I assume you are playing whirling slash/twister 🙂

[topaz estuary]

yeah honestly the bigger issue is the spirit, i have legit 0 on my gear xd

[hard estuary]

There is Berias though which kinda works

[deep granite]

https://youtu.be/AAv2za6e2UI
So this is a build i've been workin on the past week, I like to call it the hit and run tactician, focusing Thorns/Caltrops and the tacticians pin/spirit reservation reduction. allowing me 4 copies of caltrops, trinity, wind dancer, and scavanged plating, surprisingly tanky with only a 1500 hp health pool and minimal ES. its a WIP and hope to expand on it more next season.
POB: https://poe2.ninja/pob/a112

[turbid pike]

Can anyone recommend a boss killing build to run alongside my friend's LS amazon build?

[minor wadi]

When do you ever use stormshroud over vision? You always cap suppress anyway and it’s a fraction of the cost

[sharp thorn]

I guess it's #1┃build-planning cause we don't have suppress.

[topaz kayak]

does anyone have a good build for the palm of the dreamer?

[exotic compass]

earthquake since it like the reduced duration

[exotic compass]

rake/blood hunt, shockburst rounds, lightning rod/LA, flicker, falling thunder, rolling slam totems, grenades, theres a few ideas idk what you are rocking rn

[turbid pike]

Thank you this gives me a sense of direction. We're just starting fresh.

[deep granite]

ice lance/lightning spear make a good combo too if you both wanna play spear

[uncut bay]

and obviously deadeye wind serpent fury and deadeye glacial lance

[exotic compass]

^^

Played glacial lance with rake/blood hunt and it was a lot of fun, but was more reliant on frenzy charges than lightning spear. Definitely want to run glacial + wind serpent soon

[uncut bay]

I had a glacial lance build, it's satisfying to freeze everything

[exotic compass]

The delay is honestly nice for certain mobs or situations, one person ran swift affliction on lance to speed up the detonation but I found myself enjoying it

And the HoT + CoF voltaic mark combo is so nice

I just wish you could cast barrage and glacial lance in a more convenient way. If barrage consumes all charges, none of the lances will explode

Cast barrage, then spear stab to get charges back, then glacial lance works ig

[uncut bay]

yeah, the barrage interaction is a bit weird

[lapis mason]

What do people run for rarity culling now?

[unreal zinc]

Is this any good? Currently my armor gives me all the Spirit I need from the previous node on this branch but I'm unsure if this final node is worthy... maybe I should change it all and get different gear with Spirit on it...

[exotic compass]

Protect me from harm is nice for small hits from mobs, but evasion itself should take care of that for you, especially combined with ghost dance

I'd drop the node after killing viper in act 3 cruel

[unreal zinc]

That makes sense... I'll start working on getting Spirit on my gear

[exotic compass]

Well I would keep the spirit node, just drop protect me from harm

-spirit
-cold DMG
-lightning DMG
-crit pen

Ez dubz

[unreal zinc]

Oh.. but I was planning on getting "and I shall rage" + "and scatter them to the winds"

[exotic compass]

I'm an unbound avatar fan but taking cold and lightning is more consistent and one fewer button to press

Elemental expression is not supported well but you're more than welcome to try

Since it's a spell with its own crit chance, very hard to scale it alongside an attacking build

[unreal zinc]

Ah.. I see

[unreal zinc]

Ok I see what you mean

[slim spoke]

Hey people's, im looking to get back into poe2 before the new update and want to do a sacrifice based enezun wand build actually using volatile dead. Right now im wondering if using a scepter or a focus would potentially be better any thoughts?

[manic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_MpNlSXf4 just gonna drop this here

[median wharf]

yeah no pob no watch

[sullen iron]

what a sook

[manic parrot]

https://pobb.in/f9qAl5NMk_fL

https://poe2.ninja/profile/Endagony-1766/character/Endaag

[median wharf]

prob a good idea to include in the video description ngl

ty

[manic parrot]

i didnt cuz pob isnt accurate in my experience

it cant recognize my megalo or sunder gems

same for ninja

which is why i try to explain everything myself

[median wharf]

thats fine, but for most a pob is needed even if its for following along your video

better than me trying to pause to read things u glance over with ur mouse

[manic parrot]

well, i added a link to it in the description in case anyone feels the same

[median wharf]

ty

[torpid wraith]

Hey there do you guys know any fun monk build that looks cool? Or some cold damage mage/witch?

[uncut bay]

lightning spear invoker is great

flicker invoker as well. frost bolt cast on crit coldsnap lich/blood mage is great

[torpid wraith]

Ty did they kill the whirling assault charged staff combo ? or does it still viable

[uncut bay]

no idea

[remote narwhal]

Nah they probably didndt

Tho I am suffering a issue maybe someone can test and find out the issue

So I'm using savalin and cast on freeze

Savalin is working fine but cast on freeze isn't.

And yes I am freezing

[faint token]

Hello! I have reached end game and about to fight the arbiter of ash but I want to improve my build. I’m running LS Amazon. How would I know if the item that I’ll change will significantly increase my damage or survivability? Do I need to use PoB? If so how will I know?

[median wharf]

Pob is definitely what u are looking for, to know how to use pob its like taking a college level course

I would say a good 50 hours invested, you would be great at it

[uncut bay]

no, you don't need pob at all, I mean it helps, but you can theory craft and improve your build without it just fine

just understand your build, use a calculator if you need to, it's not rocket science

[static torrent]

Asking in the right game's channel would be a good start: https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[tawdry saddle]

Is 100Div enough for a trickster Smite build?

[remote narwhal]

This is Poe 2s chat

[remote narwhal]

Try here #1┃build-planning

Gah wrong one

[remote narwhal]

Sadly people have ignored my question.

Savalin isn't just in 1

I'm having issues with making the cast on work with savalin

Was only trying to find out if anyone else might have tried it and had better results

[tawdry saddle]

Mb

[remote narwhal]

It's fine

[remote narwhal]

^

People probably are thinking im talking about 1 there too

[remote narwhal]

Is pyromaniac pact considered a hit or no.

[uncut bay]

if it damage instantly and not over time then it is

[hearty belfry]

Does anyone have an MF build?

idrc bout budget but i need gold!!!

for gambas

Cant give out stuff in global 100 without it

[remote narwhal]

Would indigon still be considered in pyromaniac pact

If it does, demon form and indigon with defiance of destiny and pyromaniac pact should work together.

[static torrent]

It wouldn't be, you don't spend Mana when you have Infernal Flame.

[uncut bay]

buy castaway maps

[remote narwhal]

Agreed

I figured out a way.

But sadly the mana cost is quite a fun one.

Bloodmage and infernalist can pull it off.

Es, mana Regeneration has to be high AF tho

My warbringer maybe could pull it off as well

Actually nvm.

[sharp thorn]

You can try stormweaver sorc for arcane surge that scales with mana pool

[remote narwhal]

Well I thought of that but I don't think it would work.

Not the way I want it to

But im more looking at my warbringer ATM.

I'm currently running my warbringer on a variation of this. (Similar concept) https://youtu.be/8el2W2NZJ9A?si=5hazEztdLOEREPaV

No mjolner tho.

It's more getting hit over actually attacking.

Problem is it's a huge mana consumption.

[remote narwhal]

I got rings and a helm that might help that end of things.

But I may try a variation of it with demon form.

Using infinite persuit, pragmatic to force stuff like poison on myself to use the antidote charm as a sort of way to get around the mana issues

[uncut bay]

no idea what build you are talking about

[tulip fog]

is there any resource on how much armor monsters have in endgame maps? trying to theory craft on an armor break explosion build and need to know how much they have so that i dont over-invest in increased armor break

[gleaming kite]

I think it would depend on what skills you’re using

Something like spearfield wouldn’t need as much because it has so many hits

[tulip fog]

i would be using a single hit to trigger it

and have that hit poison the enemy dealing 80% of the damage as armor break damage

which then explodes when fully broken

[sinful grove]

could anyone give me advice on the best end game character if i was to reroll a new character that wanted to use a doriyanis merc? thanks

[green dust]

Hey,
could someone tell me how this https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/드레니안-6685/드레니안_?i=0&search=class%3DAmazon%26skills%3DLightning%2BSpear%26sort%3Ddps%26heatmap%3Dtrue build generates Frenzy charges?

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[midnight obsidian]

gone

[remote narwhal]

Infinite persuit puts aliments on you randomly when hit. Pragmatic makes it so charms have no limit.

[uncut bay]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-blah-blah-blah-roll-eyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-16216173

sorry, it's just I don't know what you are talking about or why 😄

[remote narwhal]

Then why are you responding

Your purposesly being a jerk

[uncut bay]

you were saying all this stuff seemingly without any goal, just sharing information here

[remote narwhal]

Can you read

Oh wait ur dumbass cant

And go ahead cause your here just wasting time trying to bait fights

[uncut bay]

xD basically, if you want a productive conversation about a build or maybe you want help with a build be more specific, link your build, ask a specific question etc.

[remote narwhal]

I wasn't talking to you. I commented to someone else now either go back and read or gtfo

[uncut bay]

nah I try to help people here

[remote narwhal]

Oh really by not reading back.

[uncut bay]

alright relax, I didn't mean to offend you ^ ^

[remote narwhal]

^

Pretty much the same question.

[green dust]

hold up

[remote narwhal]

Basically what I was saying cero was a similar build to the one with the igniting in presence but using something to get aliments when hit instead

And taking like the rage charm and antidote charm to be able to be useful

Taking it to make a different type of build with more of a way to keep mana going while staying alive. (Making a no button build)

So pretty much have to figure out things that compensate for the dps loss that would bring.

[hardy solar]

whats an actual budget and good leaguestarter till endgame without swap the complete build ?

i saw videos about exanguinatereap miner

[woven depot]

This sounds like Poe 1 #1┃build-planning ,this chat is for Poe 2

[hardy solar]

oh

[woven depot]

Fwiw, I really like poeguy’s siege ballista starter, hella cheap and transitions nicely into a chaos shrapnel ballista build

[uncut bay]

any improvements? this is an act 2 build https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/0i63d0ri

[woven depot]

This channel is for 2, you’ll get more help in #1┃build-planning

[last quartz]

Ohhh... mb xD

Sorry

[sterile spade]

What ascendency would be best for a fire mage build around ignite and cast on ignite fireball?

[median wharf]

Bloodmage

A big challenge with mage type build is mana regen, bloodmage just does it better

[sinful grove]

any good build guilds for a lightning strike trickster that includes mageblood pls?

[median wharf]

wrong game buddy

[sinful grove]

oh thanks sorry

[uncut bay]

bloodmage or lich

[dusk basalt]

does greatest defencce and spiked shield stack?

[pearl sluice]

%anyone know how i can take all my skills from 10k dps to around 30 k dps

[gray patrol]

Gear, supports, passives, different skills

[pearl sluice]

Tried all that only my lighting spear gets that high

Every other class I struggle get past 17k

[median wharf]

Well, 2+2 is 4, -1 thats 3

[pearl sluice]

i dont undetstand this snarky remark thanks though any one else besides this guy got any tips

[median wharf]

I mean with the context u give, thats the answer u get 👍

[pearl sluice]

alll good blocked u anyway thanks tho

[uncut bay]

I can also only tell you 2+2=4 unless you provide a build 😄

[pearl sluice]

every build

[uncut bay]

post some screenshots or better yet a maxroll or poeninja link

[pearl sluice]

stay under 20 kk unless spear

do most people just crutch low life helm?

[uncut bay]

I dislike the helm

[pearl sluice]

i feel ya

[pearl sluice]

il be around later help ya with build if ya still need

i can get most spear builds up ill see what i have for ya

[pearl sluice]

amen LMAO

[pearl sluice]

agreed

[pearl sluice]

addded ya to that block list too lol

[uncut bay]

what? wtf lol

the fuck did I do 😄

[median wharf]

😂

[pearl sluice]

any non toxic people on poe with good builds pm im on often

[median wharf]

Dude is a clown frfr

[pearl sluice]

frfr

always down to clown

[uncut bay]

that's what I get for trying to help people

[pearl sluice]

back to poe builds im def gonna switch to lightning cuz cold isnt cutting it

[median wharf]

Some just cant be helpped

[pearl sluice]

exactly

[median wharf]

😂

let me block you and read every message

[pearl sluice]

🤣

[median wharf]

crazy

[pearl sluice]

wanted u to feel heard

got you fellow gamer

[median wharf]

u definitely got ur own spectrum

[pearl sluice]

thanks i try

on hand of chayula is temporal chains any good in it

i have that and enfeeble in it

[sterile spade]

What is the best guide for LS Amazon?

Or LS other class

[uncut bay]

well deadeye should definitely be best for LS, after that in no particular order infernalist, bloodmage, invoker, lich, ritualist

all of those got great synergy with LS

[sterile spade]

Does Incinerate proc Cast on Ignite Fireball?

[uncut bay]

yes

[sterile spade]

I am planning a infernalist fire mage build.
My plan is to use incinarate (and other skills like fire orb, flameblast, etc) to proc cast on ignite fireballs to clear the screen, and mobs would explode with herald of ash.

Can the fireballs proc herald of ash?
Can incinerate and other fire spells proc cast on ignite? (I read somewhere that only hits proc cast on ignite... are spells hits? What configures a Hit?)

[pale oak]

https://youtu.be/T7CikVIaNeo?si=jimGLFq_A0MyYApL
guys does this still work?

[sharp thorn]

Herald of ash requires attacks which fireball is not. Cause it's a spell.
Yes, incinerate can trigger CoI, cause it's hit based. Yes, it's hit based despite it doesn't deal hit damage.

[sharp thorn]

Yes, it will work until the new league.

[fair fiber]

Why does KB builds stack spell damage? KB does not have the spell tag?

[median wharf]

KB doesnt even exist

[fair fiber]

kinetic blast does not exist? ok dude

[median wharf]

😂i love how u are so sure about being wrong

[true mulch]

Not in Poe2. We have power siphon but that’s the only one I’m aware of.

[dawn spire]

You're in the poe2 planning channel

Also kb says in its description that increases and reductions to spell damage apply to kb. Or maybe it's a transfigured version. Either way, it's in poe1, not poe2

[uncut bay]

yes stop talking about shit that's not even existing in the game

[uncut bay]

yes, but the build can be updated

[rotund stag]

is 100d + mb enough to make trickster build?

[hoary bolt]

you might get better answers in the poe 1 build planning channel #1┃build-planning

[runic hornet]

hi guys, i just started a sorceress, now at the end of act 3 and i cant find a build that seems fun (spark build is 💤 and the frost bomb + frost wall build is kinda boring)
What are the other way / nice build for sorceress ? i wanna try it a lil bit deeper

[deep lance]

Can I check my total crit chance somewhere?

ah found it

[uncut bay]

just check youtube maybe, look for builds, not for sorceress builds, nobody can tell you what's fun for you, but for example lightning spear is strong

flicker, gas arrow, lightning arrow, shockburst rounds, essence drain etc.

[dark lintel]

need to hit 600% cant squeeze it more. 😐

[static torrent]

For what it's worth, there's severe diminishing returns on increased Rarity past about 100%, so not sure it makes that much of a difference.

[uncut bay]

yeah these 500% rarity flexes are so funny, especially if they play in a group with permanent allocation

[median wharf]

Dude its amazing following someone’s ass while they clear and pick up trash 🤣🤣🤣 /s

[exotic compass]

I loved vacuuming up items to ID/transmute/augment while duoing as a banner Tactician start of this season

Definitely makes you want to run your own character just to blast tho, similar to swapping from minions to fast martial weapon builds. I like variety

[pallid dome]

is caustic arrow or poison or just caustic arrow, better?

[static torrent]

Assuming you're talking about Transfigured Gems, that's a PoE1 mechanic, you're in the wrong channel for that.

[pallid dome]

oh my bad

sorry

[uncut bay]

there is literally no difference between 500% and 600%

[tulip fog]

i wonder if there is anything that would make this helmet viable

is there any other defenses you could use to substitute the resistances for?

[exotic compass]

its viable, but only for giga setups where you can just run around with life remnants on bloodmage, wiping the screen using LS

ive seen some youtubers mess with it, didnt really lead anywhere. now its just OP bloodmages it seems

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawnhc/character/Sooooy-6399/云游咔钉车?i=7&search=items%3DVeil%2Bof%2Bthe%2BNight this is the only hc player i could find still alive wearing it lol

[tulip fog]

i see, i did some mock-setups in POB to see what it would look like but even with giga setup of almost perfect gear it doesnt look very good

this on a titan

comparatively, my smith of kitava (that doesnt use it) looks a lot better

[exotic compass]

i would do it without life remnants personally

but 10k life for rathpith is disgusting damage

ngl

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/undead_pleb-5842/LigmaExileTwo?i=2&search=items%3DVeil%2Bof%2Bthe%2BNight check this setup 👀

they have enough jewels it looks like 0.1 wtf!

[tulip fog]

that looks pretty crazy yeah, shame that their max hit/eHP is just 11k though

[uncut bay]

with 0% resistances it looks like a gimmic build

but still impressive

[uncut knot]

spearfield + knockback support + emperors grasp. spearfield creates hazards which deal damage when stepped on, knockback and emperor grasp pulls targets forward forcing them to step on it

[tulip fog]

are there any decent stampede aftershock builds currently? ive been trying to theorycraft one but have a hard time deciding in which direction to go with it

[uncut knot]

the numbers on it seem really low according to poe2db and it looks like a movement ability at best

[tulip fog]

this is my best attempt at the moment
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/a63my0w7

with the slam part of the skill dealing about 40k

if the enemy gets heavy-stunned by the step part of the skill

the only issue being the mana cost of the skill, its freaking bonkers

[uncut knot]

you want it as a main clear ability?

[tulip fog]

yes

btw, this attempt of mine has a 91% chance to cause aftershock

i wasnt able to get any more aftershock chance unfortunately

[uncut knot]

support gem for stun and boneshatter?

[tulip fog]

these are the supportgems im using for it

you kinda need a lot of damage supports since the skill doesnt really have good % damage boost from the skill

[uncut knot]

you could use it as a stun setup for boneshatter

[tulip fog]

id rather have it as main clear if possible

thats the idea im trying to make real

[uncut knot]

stampede + boneshatter for clear

it must absolutely be one button?

[tulip fog]

very very preferrably one button, but another skill is acceptable for rares/bosses

[uncut knot]

stomping ground?

[tulip fog]

hmm, you are right that would make for extra damage

[uncut knot]

I think that attack speed for it is wasted

martial tempo for boss killer

[tulip fog]

im at 2.6 attacks per second, i boosted it to reduce the initial time it takes to start moving once you click the skill

if you have used the skill you would know it takes almost a full second to start moving once you click the skill

if you have no attackspeed

[uncut knot]

Well ideally you just oneshot packs with it so you don't want attack speed?

[tulip fog]

ideally i would oneshot packs yes, but i want to be able to initiate my attack before getting killed before even starting to attack the packs

[uncut knot]

attack speed may not make it faster but skill speed.

would skillspeed gem after moving be fun for you?

but you won't be just spamming stampede

I will google if it works. it didn't for my shield charge

[tulip fog]

hmm, well you could spam stampede to clear the map before going back to loot i guess?

stampede takes some time for its animations to play out so the faster it can be done the better imo

[uncut knot]

i think you need second clear button just in case

like a boneshatter or something

let me google that gem

can you tell me if this gem works on it?

i think this could easily solve the speed issue

then build stomping ground and full damage

are you on pc i can test if you want

[tulip fog]

i would need to have two different setups of stampede to make this work, since this support blocks the usage of stampede until i have moved a certain distance

[uncut knot]

if you want to just use stampede?

yea i guess. i wouldnt use just stampede personally. i definitely think you should focus on damage not speed on it

[tulip fog]

do me a favour, go get a copy of stampede yourself, try the skill, observe the long-ass animations and then come back here and tell me it doesnt need speed... please

[uncut knot]

the attack speed is slow but attack speed doesnt affect it i think

i think its skill speed that does. atleast that is what it feels like for my shield charge

[static torrent]

Skill Speed is basically just spell+attack speed in one stat, if Skill Speed affects it Attack Speed should as well, unless it's a skill with a 'Use Time' rather than an Attack time.

[uncut knot]

stampede does not have an attack tag on it. it shouldnt scale with attack speed

[uncut knot]

ok

ill go test it

but i doubt it attack speed will work

shield charge did not seem to be affected by martial tempo for me

[static torrent]

Might be because movement is a separate thing, given that Shield Charge and Stampede both list quite short attack times

[tulip fog]

momentum would absolutely work for stampede's slam part but not for the steps

main reason im stacking attackspeed is because of the long animations that im trying to speed up

[uncut knot]

for clear, you could do, stomping ground + bleed + herald of blood. this is pretty popular for rake i think

you should hit very hard with a mace

i have put both skill speed and attack speed gem on stampede and i dont feel like its gotten faster idk man

[static torrent]

As I said, Skill Speed and Attack Speed are basically the same stat as far as Attacks are concerned. If one works, the other will as well, and vice versa. From my brief testing, it seems to speed up portions of the animations, but the main movement isn't scaled by them.

[uncut knot]

it doesnt scale just go full damage

[tulip fog]

im specifically trying to speed up the initial animation before you start moving and the end animation before you can start moving your character again or use a new skill

the running animation would be affected by your movement speed i believe

[uncut knot]

i did not feel any significant speed change with martial tempo, hit and run or either duration support

so i do not know how you would speed it up

maybe it scales with movement speed?

[tulip fog]

that would be simple to test, just unequip boots with movespeed

if its slower then that would be a good indication

[uncut knot]

i forgot i had movement speed boots in my stash

i think it scales with it but not too much?

havent used them in a while

is there movement speed support?

[tulip fog]

dont think so?

[uncut knot]

movement speed is the only thing i have seen to actually speed it up a noticable amount

[tulip fog]

the entire animation or just the moving steps part?

[uncut knot]

moving steps but that seemed to be the biggest part of it

[tulip fog]

if you try to combine the movespeed boots with the faster attacks and faster skillspeed supports, do you notice any big difference from just the movespeed boots?

@uncut knot

[uncut knot]

all of them at once?

give me a moment

it seems to get faster but not that much. its still a super slow ability

[tulip fog]

ok

[uncut knot]

i wouldnt run martial tempo on it

hit n run i think is the best the one to actually make it faster

[tulip fog]

how much base attackspeed do you have in your passives on the character you are testing it on?

[uncut knot]

not a lot

[tulip fog]

martial tempo gives "MORE" attackspeed which scales with increased attackspeed

[uncut knot]

i have like two big nodes for attack speed

i dont think martial tempo did much and that its a very valuable gem for others like a basic attack so i wouldnt use it on stampede

[tulip fog]

hmm

[uncut knot]

i would just run hit n run for its speed purposes, the rest are just not worth it as investments imo

unless theres another gem to really boost its speed

[tulip fog]

the problem is that hit n' run, based on its description, prevents you from using the skill at all unless you have moved 10 meters or more, and then after using the skill you need to move another 10 meters before you can use it again

10 meters being basically an entire screen's distance

and that would not work for me

i want the freedom of using the skill when i need it

[deep lance]

I'm looking for ideas for 1 button ungabunga. My fingers need a rest after playing chaos dot witch.

[uncut knot]

let me google that gem

[tulip fog]

this is my current build that im using, with my actual gear, i am running unjuiced T16 maps just fine, still working on building up a stockpile of T16's and getting the right kind of modifiers to start juicing stuff, so i dont know how it handles juiced T16's but it should be easily clearing anything below that
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/js3mz0l7

this is even below that of a 1-button build, you just walk through maps and monsters die half a screen away when hitting you

[deep lance]

oh you're not using the mace strike, solar orb, stampede, infernal cry?

[tulip fog]

mace strike is for bosses

[deep lance]

love me some 0 button building

[tulip fog]

solar orb is not for damage, its just for building rage when fighting bosses

infernal cry is also for bosses

[deep lance]

how cancer was campaign as warrior?

[tulip fog]

you can replace mace strike with any other melee skill you like

[tulip fog]

not too bad once you can start using the setup around end of normal act 3 i believe it was?

but up to that point was pretty miserable

[deep lance]

I'll give it a shot

thank you 🙂

btw there is no tree

[tulip fog]

give me a shoutout once you get to that point, would be fun hearing how you like it

[tulip fog]

wait what?

[tulip fog]

i dont know why it does that...

this is the tree

@deep lance i do want to highlight that some of my gear is definitively not optimised, so some of the stats on the gear like for example mana, chaos damage%, cold damage%, damage taken recouped as mana is stats you dont need

its just stats that rolled on my gear while i was exalt-slamming and i havent been able to afford to replace those gear pieces

[next moat]

FYI Maxroll's PoB import is broken. Needs to be fixed, hopefully they will do so before 0.3. For now, just generate your links to another site like poe2.ninja within PoB and it'll work.

It's a bummer because I find the Maxroll UI the most visually pleasing.

[tulip fog]

i made my PoB link inside PoB, not through maxroll, but thanks for letting me know

[next moat]

Right, you generated a maxroll link within PoB and that's why nobody could see your passive tree. Maxroll doesn't properly import the passive tree from PoB.

So when you're generating links in PoB right now, you want to use another hosting site option other than Maxroll, because of this bug.

[tulip fog]

i see now what you mean, it used to generate pobb.in links as default before and now it suddenly started doing maxroll links as default, and i didnt look properly

[next moat]

Yessir, it's a frustrating bug.

[tulip fog]

here is a new updated link
https://pobb.in/4nGUC5uCs5L7

[next moat]

Yep that tree shows properly now 😃

[tulip fog]

there we go

i hope POB fixes the smith of kitava max resistance calculations soon, it sucks having to manually write
"+3% maximum cold resistance"
"+3% maximum lightning resistance"
in the config everytime

[ornate sand]

ive been looking for builds for upcoming ziz event would toxic rain antiquarian be ok?

[exotic compass]

hmmm dont think thats been added to the sequel yet

i wish we had some races while we sit on our hands in 0.2

[sharp thorn]

#1┃build-planning . There's no gauntlets in Poe2.

[ornate sand]

oh mb disregard

[sterile spade]

hey guys what is currently the best build in terms of survivability that has a guide to follow on mobalytics or maxroll? i have been dying a lot in early maps (T1-4) with minion lich and cast on freeze comet stormweaver. I want a build that is tanky and also clears well maps

[uncut bay]

we just debated that very question with another guy, we came to the conclusion LS bloodmage is the tankiest

without the bleed passives, that is

but ritualist, deadeye, infernalist, invoker, lich LS can be pretty invincible as well of course

[exotic compass]

all 3 witch ascendancies involve tanking, lich and bm are the most flexible but all three can run lightning spear and have a jolly time. its 46% playrate for a reason after all

if you are putting multiple lines of mods on your t1-t4 maps, id say stop temporarily. until later, the only maps you need to run with lots of mods are Towers and Corrupted Nexuses

try to just travel between those using simple 1-2 mod waystones. with maps being purchased with gold, you dont even need to run ANY suffixes. this is what we do in hc until comfortable

if you want to juice it up and risk making it too hard, thats up to you

one of my characters is a lvl 71 frost mage lich, id recommend the build but i also had a blast on multiple chaos liches this season, more of a hyrbid spell/totem playstyle

if you utilize trade you would be able to purchase stuff better than mine quite easily i imagine, mentioning you are new helps a ton getting people to respond

[exotic compass]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/a2a7 you can just move around and click Command: frost bomb on mobs. clerics and storm mage for support, rattling sceptre minions to get sacrificed. very safe setup once you get your helmet/chest/amulet combo online. 300-500 on helm, 500+ on chest (tough if you want spirit and/or life), and maybe 80 on an amulet as well as 40-50%, you'll be able to reach 5-10k ES depending on how much offense you nee

hope any of that helps

[broken knot]

whats the more fun merc aura stacker? Fire armor stack merc, or kb merc?

[uncut bay]

wrong game

[broken knot]

f

[jagged prawn]

I imported one of the top DPS builds and noticed two warnings in Path of Building:

Unreserved Spirit is negative,
Too many gem groups are allocated.

Is this a bug or how is this player actually able to use the build properly?
Build: https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Zurdito-1940/Gasladdriel?i=2&search=class%3DDeadeye%26skills%3DLightning%2BArrow%26sort%3Ddps

[exotic compass]

They have 9 skills and they probably disable ash/wind/ghost in order to enable cast on crit

Also, this looks like an actual player, but remember people will intentionally brick their build in order to maximize DPS tooltip on sites like poe2ninja. Take them with a grain of salt I've had strong characters with garbage tooltips

[jagged prawn]

Thanks

@exotic compassare you maybe experienced deadeye / lightning arrow player?

[exotic compass]

Meh, I played ice shot + lightning rod last season and used lightning arrow to level a few different characters this season. In general it's pretty simple, hold down LA and don't get hit 😅

Check out 787pradas video he's an invoker but it's got good info in general, there are plenty of other guides from others too

[faint token]

Hello! Any build suggestions for t1 mapping as blood mage. I don’t wanna go the LS route as I already have a LS Amazon.

[uncut bay]

bloodmage is great with any build

[faint token]

I want a CoC build can you recommend me one? I suck at making my own builds.

[uncut bay]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/tmemw0j9
this was my build, very budget

just replace whatever support is not working anymore

[faint token]

I wanted to go this route but im currently at level 61 and cant use the amulet

[uncut bay]

you should decide how many CoCs, scepter or focus

[faint token]

Already have the items for it too. Just need to level but I cant seem to find a good build to use for leveling until 78

[uncut bay]

I would only use this build with the choir

[faint token]

Im using the lazy exile speed leveling build btw

Any build before the choir tho?

[uncut bay]

good choice

rake stomping ground should carry you in early maps

[faint token]

Cool

[uncut bay]

just get at least 800 strength

[faint token]

I can only get through asc 2 tho lol

[faint token]

I will try this. Currently at 600

[uncut bay]

jesus christ wrong game man

this is so weird when people randomly post stuff from other games

[faint token]

I don’t know how to increase it tho lol already had the uniques needed

[static torrent]

Most people just see 'build-planning' and don't check the number before it.

[uncut bay]

well they should learn to read

[uncut bay]

the lazy exile build is great, just follow it and buy items with tons of strength and all attributes

should be enough till level 78

[faint token]

Cool. Will try it later. I was really sad when i respecced and all my stuff went poop

All i can see for upgrades is the rings and amulet. Is this correct? In regards to the lazy exile build

Mb man I’m kinda new to this game. I suck at planning my builds and just follow build guides 1:1

[uncut bay]

well both rings abd amulet can be upgraded, yes, you could get over 100 strength from them

I don't remember her whole build

search for strength and elemental resistances

[faint token]

How can I upgrade the rings and amulet? I already bought one with 30+ strength and 15+ all attributes

Ahhh just read the guide throughly and it seems like this only covers 1-65 and it falls off after it. So just wanted to find a build that can sustain me at early mapping until I can respec to a CoC build.

[uncut bay]

you right, it completely falls off after 65 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CFq4wKv3GsY&pp=ygUUc3RvbXBpbmcgZ3JvdW5kIHBvZTI%3D

if it takes you a whole minute to kill t4 xesht with budget gear, what kind of useless build is that xD

I personally did early maps with the build, had no problems

[faint token]

Oh lol. Ok will try it first then somewhat just get an outline of that guys PoB for the upgrades.

Thanks brother!

[uncut bay]

you are welcome

[inner birch]

is someone available to help me out on a build i trying to attempt at as a bleed, ignite and shock build?

or is that not possible

or should i just do bleed ignite and posion..

[hoary bolt]

bleed/ignite/poison is easily doable on infernalist with a base phys hit

can get shock from a tamed beast or with a shocked ground setup from gathering storm

[inner birch]

infernalist huh, what about ritualist or pathfinder?

[hoary bolt]

you need the all damage can ignite passive from infernalist

to be able to ignite/poison/bleed all with the same hit

[inner birch]

ahh fair enough

[hoary bolt]

its super efficient because you just scale damaging ailment magnitude with jewels

and it scales all 3

its basically tons of free extra damage

[inner birch]

aight thanks

[hoary bolt]

yeah you can do stuff like this: https://youtu.be/_u-VwKcX5Xc?si=hwGMS8b9BVPsG45O&t=186

[inner birch]

ohh shii thats mad

[elder oar]

Hey, I have a general build question, specifically about the skill "Temper Weapon" from Smith of Kitava.

When I untick Show Recommended Gems, it shows that I can engrave the "Ignition" support gem into it, which means that it should work with this skill, right?
But when I look at the support gem in my inventory, it shows me that it does not work with this skill, specifically the Combust part.

Am I missing something?

[next moat]

It works because it is applying to the Combust portion of the skill

Unlike POE 1, empowered attacks have no inherit bonuses, so any skill which empowers will have an explicit empower mechanic.

[elder oar]

If it works, why does it have an X?

[next moat]

Shoot, apologies I misread your initial question and then just spewed misinformation haha

I'm actually not 100% sure. The way I read it, it should work. My guess is that Combust is not actually itself a skill that hits, instead it's a modifier that juices the attack it empowers.

Actually, yeah pretty sure that's it.

[sharp thorn]

Yeah. It is indeed a skill (the combust part) that can hit enemies.

A hit in this game is anything that deals damage, essentially.

Except DoT effects. But some dot effects count as a hit when they say "as though dealing" in the text.

[next moat]

Right, but unless it's a bug, then why would ignition not work with it? The only narrative I can make sense would be that because it's an Empowered Attack mechanic, Combust acts as as sort of rider that tags along with the following attack skill hit, but doesn't itself trigger a hit.

[sharp thorn]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Temper_Weapon#SupportedBy
Looking at this data, I think the idea that the combust part can't be supported at all.

Leaving you only with supports that work with empowering and channeling skills.

[next moat]

Agreed that's how it works. It's weird that the tooltip he screenshotted shows "Combust" as the skill though.

That seems like a quirk of the Empowered Attack system.

[next moat]

yep, there's our answer 🙂

[silent glade]

I only skimmed this conversation so lmk if there are more things I can help with

[next moat]

It logically makes sense once we thought through it. I think the confusion comes from "combust" showing on the tooltip as if it's a skill.

[silent glade]

hmmm that just seems like a UI bug

[next moat]

Yeah understandable

[silent glade]

combust is a separate skill but that's still just incorrect information

[next moat]

Uhh..it is?

Oh I see what you mean, not a skill gem skill, but Inernal Cry has it.

[silent glade]

combust is coming from infernal cry here right?

yeah

so the infernal cry gem has two skills on it

infernal cry and combust

[next moat]

Yeah I didn't see his PoB but I'd guess your intuition is right.

[silent glade]

and if this is a support for damaging hits then it's actively wrong that it's showing yes for infernal cry and no for combust

[static torrent]

It was Temper Weapon in this specific case

[next moat]

Actually doesn't that make sense since Combust the skill generates damage from the enemy corpse, not from your weapon?

Oh you meant it shouldn't work for Infernal Cry either, yeah

[silent glade]

hmmm, I'm not sure that it was because non-gem skills don't even seem to show up in this supportability indicator popup.

which is odd, might talk to the UI programmers

but also there's a bug on my end, infernal cry itself (i.e. not combust) is marked as being able to deal damage, which it can't.

I'll fix that at least 😅

[next moat]

Huzzah, thanks for helping us help you help us lol

[silent glade]

honestly supportability is something we need to work on improving, it's become such a complicated web with all the new support behaviours that it's getting rather error-prone. we'll make systemic improvements at some point.

(and I guess also because having two skills on the same gem is waaaaaay more common in 2 than in 1)

[static torrent]

Honestly, I don't think I've ever used that Supportable Skills tooltip in PoE2, since I just cut the gem I need or move one I have into a slot that gets highlighted, so I hadn't noticed ascendancy skills missing from there.

[silent glade]

same

[next moat]

Yeah same, but as I've gotten a few friends into the game, I have noticed newer players do sometimes.

It seems like a very reasonable EA challenge though. I can imagine within the prioritization realm of "fix support behavior logic" and "get cool new skills out the door", most designers enjoy the latter far more.

[silent glade]

indeed 😅

though it's not that the logic is broken, it's just messy and error-prone

which pushes it even further down the list

[elder oar]

Thanks everyone for the help

[formal silo]

Any bow SSF players?

[manic parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rALSSsOSk just gonna drop this here

[strange rock]

Hey all, stupid question but, if I use assassins mark and my merc has ele weakness and frostbite on hit ring does she need +1 or +2 to her curse limit? I.e. does she share a curse limit with me?

[static torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[static torrent]

Holy Relic doesn't exist in PoE2, so I'm guessing you meant: https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[elder oar]

Hey, are there go-to sites to get good/fun builds for both POE1 and 2?
Some inspiration would be nice.

[exotic compass]

Poe2ninja doesn't show everyone that plays, but it shows a pretty good amount. If you like heatmaps, filters to choose specific items/skills, and great UI, you'll like it

It's the best "cross-reference" tool we have I think

[elder oar]

I've heard of it before - will check it out.
Thank you!

[exotic compass]

It exists for both games!

[uncut bay]

youtube is still my main source

directly from the players I know, with video proof of clearing endgame content

[hoary bolt]

Has anyone found a solid use for volatility yet? I can survive a 50 stack detonation, but building it up with Empty Roar attacks is a little slow and the buff only lasts 10 seconds.

[static torrent]

Going into https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129 to ask would be the first step.

[hoary bolt]

was this in response to a deleted post?

[static torrent]

Yes

[hoary bolt]

ah gotcha

[static torrent]

I should remember to always reply to them, but it slips my mind occasionally.

[stiff heart]

is pathfinder still best for ranger?

[sharp thorn]

Depends. Deadeye has good damage and defense options, Pathfinder can walk better.

So it's up to you to decide what's better to your build.

[hoary bolt]

this has got to be the funniest "PoE 2" response ive seen in a while

pathfinder can walk better lmfao

but in all seriousness, yeah that passive is fantastic. The preceding passive that grants slow immunity is also great for dealing with the single most annoying map mod in the game in "Temporal Chains"

[sharp thorn]

I mean, if only people knew that pf gameplay is the most chill of all ascendancies.

[hoary bolt]

its quite nice yeah

[uncut bay]

less damage and defences, but more movement speed is not very chill

[sharp thorn]

It's like maybe less defense because tailwind can't eat more than one hit and a bit less damage unless you are playing spears.

Instead you get slow immunity, can walk while shooting much faster than deadeye can, have immunity to freeze or ignite. The firs one is just qol, but immunity to ignite means that you can easily ignore burning grounds.

[uncut bay]

okay I admit I don't know any poison builds

maybe there is some poison build that deals lots of damage

[sharp thorn]

It's bad. Just ignore anything that is poison related.

[uncut bay]

so poison is bad, but pathfinder increases your damage?

[sharp thorn]

Because you are mobile and have less downtime between packs.

And you don't have to stop shooting to avoid boss mechanics

And yes, I don't see tailwind with extra projectile as a significant damage boost.

The only thing that can give a lot is frenzy charge interaction and it's important only when you play spears.

[calm kite]

finally play dawn of the hunt and decide to go for a LS Deadeye build, are these builds relatively good to follow ?
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/3c3cb718-b9b9-44a4-b5af-183c187f5985/builds/5d05f05f-ecea-49d9-9b6e-893307d09e47#strengths-and-weaknesses-0

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/4d750e45-e58a-44e3-bddc-40d48587b4f1/builds/89887dd8-3fcd-484b-85ad-5ef693995474?weaponSet=set1&ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C1a58c265-eafc-4478-8ac2-b77236395aa6

[hoary bolt]

also the slow immunity makes you immune to chilled ground as well

and chill in general iirc since its a slow

[uncut bay]

suboptimal builds, lots of things are missing or can be improved. this is a good build https://poe2.ninja/profile/kremgg-1370/character/Krem_GG

get the 5 frenzy charges though, ingenuity belt if you want and saphires with ES mods

damage penetrates elemental resistance passives are not necessary, you can apply lightning and fire exposure with spear stabs and cast flammability

and get some damage penetrates lightning res on saphires then

get at least 20k dps on LS and 5k life+ES

[calm kite]

okay, thank you

[pearl sluice]

Has anyone played around with bloodwitch and crossbows?
I'm just returning to the game, after 3 months and figured some crossbow crit focused build sounds like a fun time

[potent furnace]

Is there a way to calculate respec costs in gold?
In pob I only see the refund point costs

[exotic compass]

You could homebrew a crossbow bloodmage build they are pretty strong in general, but none of it really related to bleeding. Starting as BM will set you back a few points but it's a very versatile setup right now so you wouldn't need as much investment into defense.

Life remnants, crit damage, 25% of hits taken over time. Last choice would be life from your chest or elemental damage can bleed

can't apply bleeds naturally with crossbow skills, but BM gets 15% chance to bleed on crit, and you could throw lacerate on one of your many grenade choices. Plasma blast was used last season but works differently with Scattershot now. Fires in a cone instead of a repeating straight line 😦

[exotic compass]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Passive_skill#GoldRespec

Run a manual calculation using this list, I did not cross reference with a character in game tho so they could be from 0.1

[pearl sluice]

Oh yeah, I'm definitely planning on homebrewing something, I'm wondering why you specifically mentioned bleeding, is that just the best thing at the moment or something?

[exotic compass]

It's in the name, so I figured it might have been one of the reasons you were interested

BLOODmgae

But yeah, you could just take gore spike for crit, and the right side nodes for hella defense

so you could galvanic + Shockburst, with glacial bolt and flash grenade as extra utility

Or explosive shot with multiple grenades

Ballistas are probably really rough to get totem nodes for

[pearl sluice]

Ah, yeah, I'm more interested in the crit stuff and the defensive nodes but the bleed idea is interesting 🤔
Thanks for the reply!

[crude zealot]

Is it possible to use tempering/tailoring orbs on uniques? E.g. can I add a 15% explicit modifier magnitude enchantment to voidforge?

[hoary bolt]

yes, but wrong channel #1┃build-planning

[crude zealot]

shit, you're right, thanks

[timid cloud]

guys you'll think should i change a runes to one additional arrow and one crit bonus damage ? or two additional arrow runes?

[uncut bay]

depends on the build

[timid cloud]

so i have high crit i guess is 60% chance maybe more cuz the numbers in the panel is bullshit i guess(amazon asendency) and i have 520% crit bonus already

[uncut bay]

if you play spiral volley you don't need extra arrows, otherwise you do, 3 arrows in total is pretty good, but you need more dps on the bow too

[timid cloud]

in running ice shot i can do t15 and 16 eith ease the only thing i struggle with is t15 with 70% above dell

[uncut bay]

hmm but this is a good budget bow you got though

I am just saying the dps can go much higher

are you shooting one arrow in total?

[timid cloud]

yea it's a good one i crafted my self just with exalt slamming lol

no

two rn

[uncut bay]

ah right

3 would be better, but 2 is not bad

[timid cloud]

i have head hunter

[uncut bay]

make sure you have some flat damage on the gloves and rings

[timid cloud]

when it steals the mod thay shoots 5 arrows

holyyyy

[uncut bay]

and your herald of ice triggers well and has some damage supports

[timid cloud]

it melts everything

[uncut bay]

I can imagine

[timid cloud]

my ice shor dps is 70k

[uncut bay]

headhunter is good when your damage is sorted out and you want movement speed

if you want consistently more damage use ingenuity

[timid cloud]

i have that one too

i felt like my dps was good enough but i struggle in dell maps with 70%

[timid cloud]

it does i also use use ice walls and voltaic marc with cast on freeze

[uncut bay]

sorry, you mean 70% delirious?

[timid cloud]

yes

[uncut bay]

how does that emotion affect maps?

I recommend paranoias

[timid cloud]

i have the atlas node in dell section

[uncut bay]

ah you farm bosses with suffering?

[timid cloud]

that dell maps drop themselves

[timid cloud]

no it's good

my only problem is delirious maps

[uncut bay]

just use paranoias then

you don't nees suffering or fear

[timid cloud]

ok, the maps drop with those mods are fire man tho

the loots are so good

the one has 80% delirious

[uncut bay]

45% increased rare monsters beats rare monsters 25% chance for a mod

suffering only makes sense if you fully spec into boss farming

[timid cloud]

suffering increase the amount of delirious?

[uncut bay]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Distilled_Emotion

each emotion adds a certian amount of % delirious

[timid cloud]

ty so much

[uncut bay]

no problem

[tidal jacinth]

I need a build where voltaic mark is the main skill🙂‍↕️

[pulsar thicket]

So I've been playing my warrior I'm in act 3 part 2

And I assume I will be using maps here soon

So this is my question, what is better

Dual wielding with 2 handers

Or 2hander + shield

Titan barbarian

[timid cloud]

one 2h mace with shield

otherwise you die in maps if you go for 2h mace in both hands

for bossing you can swap

[bright urchin]

Could anyone suggest a build for whatever class, I just wanna attack really fast with the weapon

[median wharf]

Look up rakestomp

Any class is fine

[bright urchin]

will do, ty

[rotund veldt]

Whats strongest Build rn?

[uncut bay]

really fast -> I am thinking of lightning arrow builds with high attack speed. amazon or deadeye

[uncut bay]

in the campaign rake stomping ground followed by essence drain, lightning arrow, gas arrow, storm lance etc.
in the endgame it depends on your criteria of strong, there is single target DPS, AOE DPS, mobility and tankiness, also practical DPS that can be seen in maps vs hideout/poe2ninja DPS

if you consider all 4 criteria then deadeye or bloodmage lightning spear could be the strongest

[exotic compass]

Imma throw a couple links your way that could inspire something cool

Rake stomping ground is pretty cheap to get mapping with, so you could pivot to another build before investing in it too heavily

https://youtu.be/MoBVXGD4pN8?si=HONjmM60YPx_0ySe

https://youtu.be/sC9qZZBAxfw?si=OJF3OaagaRz6PE7c

One is more focused on Amazon, he actually has the current sekhemas speed record so if you want fast, here it is

The other shows the versatility of whirling slash, I ran an invoker and used whirling slash + cold twister, so even tho my whirling wasn't doing the damage it still felt zippy

[silk juniper]

are there any working versions of a detonate dead build, preferably for blood mage

having a hard time theorycrafting for this skill after the nerfs

[median wharf]

👀u can fk around with smith, fire spell on hit

[silk juniper]

well I would still need a body

[trail cliff]

is there any sort of mine build on poe2 atm? just played my first mine build this league on poe and i want to do it on poe2 if possible too

[static torrent]

Traps (which can behave as Mines or Traps in PoE2) aren't yet in PoE2, they will be added alongside Shadow. We do not currently know exactly when the Shadow will be added, however.

[trail cliff]

awesome ty

[west lark]

Anyone have a good sorc-stormweaver builds?

[paper vine]

Dipping back into POE 2 and gonna try the Huntress. Any suggestions between Bleed Rake or Lightning Spear? Looking for a good balance between strong and fun

[exotic compass]

LS for clear and rake/blood hunt for bossing is standard. LS and storm lance is too but I never liked it. LS and wind serpent is a deadeye thing only

[uncut bay]

what is this??

they left the server

did they?

[exotic compass]

Idk i see white text and I click 😂

[uncut bay]

ah okay nvm

[uncut bay]

do you think people mean elemental spells or they mean the stormweaver ascendancy/sorceress class when they ask for a stormweaver build??

idk how to answer these questions

[exotic compass]

Well step 1 is stop recommending LS lol

Yes it works on every class, even an unascended blah blah could kill xesht with tangle and working fingers

😅

Urgh wrong emoji

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but LS could be the best build for every ascendancy

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But who cares it's lame

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I don't want to recommend LS, but it's just how it is

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50% playrate

If they chose stormweaver they don't want to throw spears... That's the logical assumption

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so do they mean the weapon or the ascendancy?

yes I have a feeling they choose stormweaver to cast spells

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Spark with coc should be the go-to, and after my HCSSF adventure on a spark lich, spark cos is fine too till you get crit

Double shock from stormweaver is VERY strong with Arc

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took some brain storming to understand your question, but if you want elemental spells you can do a frostbolt build with cast on freeze with frost wall in it. snakepit ring, the 300% crit damage gloves and everything
and I know that there are builds around ember and around just frost bomb frost wall

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Snakepit expensive tho isn't it

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I did it myself, it's pretty strong

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You'd have to work towards it

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not anymore, it's cheap

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Fair

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like 2 chaos orbs cheap. was 13 divines before