2┃build-planning

[ornate anvil]

1 proj for skill, 1 from grenade crossbow, 1 for cluster bombs node, 3 for scattershot

6 stacks per shot

maybe worth looking into

you might have a better time going poison conc with pathfinder i think, i remember they nerfed the fuck out of it because the uniquebow + quiver nodes were giving too many levels to it, but might still be decent

witchhunter/amazon has better time early because the spec provides better damage for free

weakness 50% more damage and decimating+culling strike

[north heart]

Friend is asking about this but can he do a smith of kitava spear build? He wants a floating spear and is hoping for decent synergy between the two

[dire cave]

while most agree that the manifest weapon is pretty bad in terms of damage it is totally viable to play it

theres quite a few smiths out there using spears

most still prefer the good old mace tho

I'd say the main issue comes from the dex requirement if anything

[north heart]

So you just need to meet dex requirements really?

Ohh okay lol

[dire cave]

😛

[crisp aspen]

main issue is just spending points pathing to the other side of the tree

you get enough dex doing that but it's a fair few points stuck into attributes travelling over

[north heart]

Man.. do yall think attribute requirements are just way too fucking strict? I don’t remember it being this bad in Poe 1 but this lightning spear build needs all 3 attributes for a hybrid energy setup lmao. Idk it just sucks struggling and juggling attributes all the time. I actually juggle them around

[mint summit]

Consider the incredible merits of Gemling :3

[crisp aspen]

fat attribute rolls on rings go a long way towards those requirements

or on any piece of gear really

[dire cave]

dafuq u mean by this

you dont need to path to the other side of the tree this is not poe 1

warrior has a lot of realy good attack nodes

and has access to avatar of fire if you want to scale fire damage

[crisp aspen]

yea thats also true

mb i saw spear and brain just default to ls

[dire cave]

lvl 19 lightning spear requires 191 dex requirement

just makes sure you get equal amount strength as you do dexterity

warriors has easier access to armour nodes

only reason to path to other side of tree would be if you want to scale evasion

you can get away with evasion armour hybrid if you want to path to merc area

but I do not advice pathing to ranger area as its a waste of points

unless you realy want that electrocute buildup for combat frenzy

it is the only way to reliably generate frenzy charges after all

fangs of frost is pretty fun for single target if you plan to use parry a lot or elemental sundering if you have a way to apply a lot of ailments over a wide area

[north pivot]

yo thanks for taking the time to do this. If you got time, can you restructure the tree a bit for me pls, based on what you said?

[dire cave]

these skill are not meta by any means but I do enjoy them

[ornate anvil]

i did, https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgIDQjisNWvxbHGS3UuJohqFENlxQFkLpx3YhVYh7FltklMg74C9ESqdQGmBHUU-LjJvjOnprj0fnOaUoPqqOsH5OOz4Jr37btI6lbrwfzHKcbkDI8xjqVT7zDIMJXNKKx1SVQFivS3lWoyT6QXuskW-9ACMPfmQ1sguMe0_omxh347gQ7zyYwAA

[mint summit]

Break Endurance support + Resonance 💪

[dire cave]

resonance is in monk area

[mint summit]

(Only works in maps and only with other shenanigans)

[dire cave]

his friend plans on playing warrior

[mint summit]

May he rest in peace

[dire cave]

no sane person would travel there just for resonance

[mint summit]

Blueflame + Combat Frenzy would also be an option then for Frenzy charges

Pretty good on Warrior imo

[dire cave]

just a shame combat frenzy requires freeze, electrocute or pin

why cant ignite be there

[north heart]

Did leap and bone shatter get massive changes or something or is it just new support gems that escalate it? Like leap is so good now for mobility and dmg lol

[dire cave]

leap slam has bad mobility but its used for stun buildup

and then use boneshatter for pack clear

[north pivot]

brilliant! 🙂 so use gas gren, corrosion setup with HVR and then add salvo in Act 2 ?

[dire cave]

cant even jump a ledge similar to hyena pack boss fight with leap slam

so pathetic

[north heart]

Ohh Bad mobility? I’ve seen people just constantly leap but because you can animation cancel it, it bypasses that. I’ve also seen shield charge as another mobility skill

[mint summit]

avatar of fire + blueflame combat frenzy spear build sounds silly but fun

[north heart]

Ohh ):

[dire cave]

between shield charge and leap slam. shield charge has much faster movement but can be stopped by an enemy whereas leap slam doesnt have that issue but leap slam also covers less ground

[north heart]

Doesn’t shield charge have a cooldown tho unlike leap and can be animation canceled? I guess ups and downs to both. I like both lol

[dire cave]

correct

but shield charge is still wildly preferred over leap slam

unless you need that stun

shield charge still has decent stun tho

either way every melee build uses a shield of sorts

[north heart]

If you couldn’t animation cancel leap slam, that would be ass lmao. Takes forever to do it again if you just stand there

[dire cave]

I honestly didn't know you could animation cancel leap slam

[north heart]

Yeah I only saw it cause of some YouTube comments. You dodge roll right as you land and it makes it a lot faster to just re activate it

[dire cave]

ah now I see why I didnt know

I'm running unwavering stance

this means no dodge rolls

and its needed for super slam

[north heart]

Wait umm if you have + level to skills past level 20, does it still keep scaling mana cost ?

[dire cave]

yes

[ornate anvil]

yea salvo basically makes your HVR fire a lot of rounds

[dire cave]

and skill damage

[ornate anvil]

you need to be meele for it

try it out

[dire cave]

well actualy idk if it keeps scaling mana

I would assume so tho

[north heart]

Maybe this is why I keep all the warrior mains run blood magic? Takes health and no mana lol. Mana cost getting ridiculous

[dire cave]

they all run blood magic because there is no way to scale mana or mana regen

but there is a massive amount of regen nodes

and with all the defensive nodes you get its almost a no brainer

[north heart]

Yeah getting flat regen on gear counteracts the negative. That’s actually nice not having to look at my mana ever again or all of a sudden being out

[dire cave]

yeah and not only that most warriors get over 200hp regen per second

[north heart]

When giants blood got nerfed, I didn’t know if this would be a joke keystone or unrealistic keystone to get which irritated me. I heard it scales a bit different in Poe 1 but in Poe 2, it is a colossal damage increase

[dire cave]

it is a bit hard to get strength later on in campaign if you are broke

like my hammer atm requires 406 strength

next one is 636

so you need a lot of strength gear which can be hard if you also have build enabling uniques

like say deepest tower helmet or infernoclasp belt

so that smith ascendancy with +20% strength is almost mandatory if you run giants blood

[north heart]

Ohh what if I run titan lol. I can’t believe I’m gonna need this stat but reduced attribute requirements is gonna be a must now lmao

[dire cave]

reduced attribute requirement helps a lot

[hollow bronze]

Could somebody explain Fast metabolism to me please, I think I need to get it on my amulet to have better Def/QOL

[dire cave]

but you sacrifice a mod for it

[north heart]

636?? Omg I wish they stuck with double attribute requirements not triple Jesus

[dire cave]

double made it realy easy to use

but triple is almost too much

[dire cave]

normaly when you leech and your life is full it stops any remaining leech for happening

fast metabolism lets that leech stay and continue without disappearing

[north heart]

I don’t think the tooltip includes giants blood when calculating but two two handed weapons is so much damage. Getting +5 skills on each gives so much dmg lmao.

[dire cave]

yeah but a good 700+ dps 2h mace is realy expensive

[north heart]

How expensive we talking ):

[hollow bronze]

So let's say without it my LIFE stops at 4.6k and with it would it keep going? Or will it have a cap?

[dire cave]

so the leech would keep going so if say you are taking bleed damage it will keep giving you life

whereas if you where bleeding but hit full life it would stop

[hollow bronze]

Ahhhh I think I got it, I'm using Methods on my amulet now to reach that 100% crit point but Im dieing to maps offen 😦

[dire cave]

u running tangletongue?

[hollow bronze]

No im running BM cast on crit

[dire cave]

one thing you could do before switching anoint is have a look at gear

[hollow bronze]

I have a tangerine though

[dire cave]

capping resists, chaos res etc.

[hollow bronze]

Yeah I wouldn't be changing the amulet just adding the anoint as it gives me lightning bolt

[north heart]

Anyone tried an earthquakey titan build

[dire cave]

running choir of the storm are we?

[hollow bronze]

Yeah

[dire cave]

running a stone, silver and amethyst charm could help

amethyst only if not chaos capped

[hollow bronze]

Ah okay yeah my chao is only 10% everything else is capped lighting is over so I could get a new belt with Chao maybe

[dire cave]

chaos res is important for mapping

[hollow bronze]

Yeah true, my brain went left this league lol.. I started to MID MAX my damage straight away then now I fucked it about lol

And the build is kinda expensive lol

[north pivot]

question on the rest of the tree, do i continue pathing towards Authority/Crushing Judgement, then into Polymathy and then once in maps, path into the poison nodes on Ranger side?

[dire cave]

everything can be fixed with capitalism

don't let anyone tell you otherwise

[hollow bronze]

Yeah I got 7div to my name but no wand is better than mine ( for a good price just the 250div perfect roll ones lol) my rings are maxed damage

Unless I'm missing something to scale l COC/Spark

I have lighting damage and cast speed maxed on both rings... I think 30%* cast speed on both

[ornate anvil]

depends on what youre going to do in the end

if your goal is to stack poisons i'd move to wasting/fast acting toxins

IIRC you can have up to 6 gas clouds

and you can get 6 projectiles with grenade xbow*, scattershot and cluster bombs

so you'd never go for more than 3 stacks in gems/tree if you plan on just using gas cloud for venoms

[north pivot]

ok thanks

also with the xbow upgrade during campaign, is it worth dropping the Bombardier one for a much higher base Xbow?

[ornate anvil]

depends on the upgrade but most likely yes

[north pivot]

cool thanks 🙂

[ornate anvil]

gotta keep in mind that +1 proj is potentially double damage on flash grenade and gas grenade

if the aoe overlaps

if you use a 1 proj xbow you would have to shoot two gas grenades instead of one

little more annoying but if the damage is worth

[north heart]

Is resolute technique that good since you never miss an attack? Where can I see my accuracy rating

[north pivot]

Press G, then

You will most certainly need RT if you decided to play those Warrior builds we discussed yesterday.

[viral sage]

does blueflame bracer an absolute must to make gemling balista build work?

[fleet cypress]

why does the worse one do so much more damge than the "better" one?

6% spell dmg > 29% dmg?????

[dire cave]

support or level diff?

[north pivot]

+levels to skill

[fleet cypress]

holy shot

i bought the wrong one

nice

[dire cave]

oof

cash lost?

[fleet cypress]

1 div

[dire cave]

not too bad but still hurts

[fleet cypress]

yeah

thats bad

[dire cave]

that moment you pay 1 div for a white piece of body armour

https://tenor.com/view/vtuber-hololive-ホロライブ-hologra-ホロぐら-gif-26351417

[fleet cypress]

take care guys

[hollow bronze]

Another question, if I use ambush on my spark. Will this help me do more crit? As it's 100% crit chance on mobs at full HP.. for mapping anyway

[dire cave]

if spark is the spell you cast when you crit then no

since the enemy wont be full health

only the spell you hit an enemy with initialy will ambush work on

[hollow bronze]

Ahh okay just thinking what gems to put in spark then for DPS

I got like 30k ATM 5 link ATM but I don't know if I should use lighting pen,mastery or fork for the last one

[dire cave]

I mean if you are using choir of the storm pen wont do anything

and spells usualy get most of their damage from levels

[hollow bronze]

Sorry if I spam, WiFi is going in and out

[hollow bronze]

That's true what's the best type of damage for rings for spark/coc

[dire cave]

cast speed is always good if you are not struggling in rarity

rarity is kinda a must in poe2

after that its the usual elemental damage and resists

with some life

or mana

depending if you use mana flare or not

[hollow bronze]

In using life as mana so can't use that I think

[hollow bronze]

Yeah what I got is 30 cast on both rings and max lighting damage. No Rarity on my build at all tbh

[dire cave]

getting 100% rariry is my recommendation if you can fit it and have the money for it

makes raw divs that much more common

unless you are spamming ritual in your maps

dont think rarity affects ritual rewards

[hollow bronze]

That's my go too now tbh aud of the king doesn't cost that much I think but I feel it's good money for now anyway imo

Also you can qualify rings with caster speed.. never knew that I put lighting cat on mine

[narrow pelican]

Which kind of runes can I put into my sacred flame? Normal ones won’t work

[static torrent]

Only Talismans

They need to have a listed effect on Sceptres, and Runes and Soul Cores don't have one, only Talismans do.

[narrow pelican]

Talismans in a scepter slot l? Crazy. Tyvm

[unique hornet]

What are yalls thoughts on abiding hex skill gem and profane ritual? Good or just a niche?

[crystal lichen]

hi guys i have a question if im not using rhoa mount what gem should i swap in my LS instead of deliberation

[solemn kettle]

Primal, martial, heft, fork are all good options. Depends on what else you have. Personally I use Volt, Fork, Primal Armament, Perpetual Charge, Martial Tempo. I'm considering changing out martial but it's useful to get ritual over and done with. I one-shot all trash and rares so doing it faster just werks

Since I spam in ritual I'm dropping volt too

[crystal lichen]

im using primal on serpent fury

can i share stream for u if ur free

[solemn kettle]

Give me like 5 minutes and sure

[crystal lichen]

alr ty

[pliant sonnet]

Do jewels calculate after or before armor/helmet modifiers?

Example

A helmet that gives negative presence of area

And a jewel additional presence of area.

[finite crystal]

question for lightning spear folks: is electrocute a super necessary thing to include in builds? i did lightning monk in 0.1 and loved using kitoko's, but looking at lightning spear builds on poe.ninja (obvious grain of salt here), it looks like the only electrocute generation is on herald of thunder which doesn't really do anything for bossing

[pliant sonnet]

I don’t use electrocute on lightning spear

Im actually playing as a lightning spear monk, using crown of eyes rn. Super fun.

[finite crystal]

i think i really liked electrocute as a defensive thing, since it disables enemies (even bosses) for a solid period of time.

but looking at these builds it seems like it's one of those "Just get more damage instead" sort of things

[pliant sonnet]

Yea it’s definitely beneficial especially if you can get the build up pretty high. Other than that, the investment may not be worth it.

[idle goblet]

If its increased/decreased area of presence they should be summd togheder in the same % pool before being applied i think

[dire cave]

does detonate dead physical damage from corpse life get affected by physical damage increases such as brutality?

[proper sapphire]

is there a way to slot two from nothing jewels? or is it strictly 1?

[static torrent]

Strictly 1

[proper sapphire]

roger that

[candid nexus]

Does a Virtue exist in DOTH or just standar

Demigod's Virtue
Golden Visage Helm

[pearl sluice]

Why can I put envenom support into herald of thunder but not herald of ash?

[static torrent]

Herald of Ash doesn't hit, Envenom Poisons on Hit.

[pearl sluice]

ah ok so explosion does not count as a hit

ty

[heady mantle]

can someone who plays blood mage pls help me item shop on trade site

[dawn spire]

Explosions can count as hits, but Herald of ash does not. It Ignites everything around the enemy that was killed but does not hit

[real knoll]

Can someone help me compare 2 bleed builds my friend does way more bleed damage and we cant figure out why buikds are almost identical

[dawn spire]

I'd give #1308715317375270952 a look. I think there's a guide for how to buy items

[dawn spire]

What are the main skills, their supports, and the weapons for each one?

[real knoll]

I have links to both builds if you wanna see?

[dawn spire]

Go for it

[steady lake]

Hey I have a question regard POB stuff, when I replace my Azir with another amulet the DPS in POB go down, but I see no endgame build using the azir amulet anymore so what is with it ?

[dawn spire]

What amulet are you referring to? There's no such thing as an "Azir". Do you mean everlasting gaze Azure amulet?

[trim swan]

@kayanz

[viscid sail]

ok im back playing poe 2... like its been a while i started a new character.. for spear lady... cause i know both type of skills get used... whivh is a better choice? herald of blood or thunder?

[midnight obsidian]

herald of blood if you think scaling physical + bleed damage is cool

for most (lightning) spear builds you want herald of thunder for some extra clear on stuff you didn't kill with the first spear

[old rune]

I'm currently running ice shot crit deadeye. Should I pick up a bow with +1 additional projectiles and 380 DPS or another bow with 440DPS but no additional projectiles?

I already have 2 projectiles per shot. 1 default and another projectile from ascendancy. That will bring me to 3 projectiles

[small anvil]

anyone running LS with 3 dragon helm for freezing mechanic? i'm also currently using Hoi but i'm under the impression that Hoi isn't triggering

[static crescent]

planing to follow a build guide and dunno if this is the right place but website to yall use for following build guides

[small anvil]

mobalytics or maxroll are the 2 most common sites for guides

[static crescent]

[static crescent]

is there one that’s better than one another or they’re equally as good

[small anvil]

equal, depends on who's writing the guide, most people seem to only write for one site and don't duplicate on the other

[static plinth]

Is there any way to make a larger portion o fmy damage with Primal Strikes lightning?

[normal pumice]

Question on Gemling, I chose the asc node doubling inherent attribute bonus, can anyone explain to me what that means and how it interacts with the 20% less attributes?

I assumed I get double attributes and then 20% less but in total I had less strength than before (doing str stack)

[brittle anvil]

hit C and hover on your attributes

you get double the bonus

[static plinth]

You get twice as much Life per point of strength, but you have 20% less strength

Same for mana and accuracy for int/dex

[normal pumice]

Ohh so I get hp not the attribute itself <facepalm> ..shoulda have read properly silly me 😅

So Gemling is not that nice of an attribute stacker then 🤔

[atomic halo]

if you want the acc/mana/life it's good

if you want to get more mileage from "x per y dex/str/int" bonuses on gear its bad

[brittle anvil]

or just take the small passives you get like 6% attributes poog

[normal pumice]

I did that for now and went towards gem quality with the leftover point, still only leveling and campaign anyways.

[silent karma]

Are there modifiers such as, "chaos damage contributes to ____"?

Btw, something that is not poison. Perhaps through an item or passive note that makes it contribute something like stun build up, freezing, etc

[brittle anvil]

there's a bow with chaos contribute to shock

[midnight obsidian]

chaotic breeze for freeze

[atomic halo]

beyond reach for freeze and electrocute

[hollow bronze]

Anybody know what the best rings are for spark damage scaling? Is it just cast speed and lighting damage? Or just cast speed.

[atomic halo]

unless you're archmage those are the only mods that give damage

i dont see how just cast speed can be better than cast speed and inc light damage

[hollow bronze]

Thank you just wanted to see how I can lvl up my damage tbh besides. +5 lighting wand lol

[silent karma]

ty

[hollow bronze]

I used the caster caterlist on my rings and got alot more DPS than the lighting one ( both mods were max rolls )

[atomic halo]

how does that make sense

so like 20% cast speed is more damage than 20% cast speed + 30% inc. lightning damage??

or do you just mean the catalyst type

of course you use caster, yeah

but the light damage is still beneficial

[hollow bronze]

My ring has T1 cast speed and lighting damage ( got 2 of them ) I used the lighting cat DPS was around 29k on spark then used the caster on and got around 31.3k dps

My apologies I was speaking about the cat with both mods lol sorry

[steady lake]

the solar unique one

[coral tartan]

Which venom draught for act 3 cruel should I take for a ls build?

[real knoll]

Max mana charges mod for mana flask is that %increased charges?

[dawn spire]

The beacon of Azis doesn't have +level of gems, and it makes crits treat enemy res as 0%, which could be a detriment if you lower enemy res below 0%

[kind crest]

Chaos resist always feels best to me

[steady lake]

how do I make this 100% ?

[dawn spire]

Get more critical hit chance. If you're an Amazon with the critical strikes node, then getting accuracy can also help

[hollow bronze]

Also some Crit jewels that go up to 15% but I'm not sure how much 15% on a jewel converts on the tooltip

I was around 96.80% on POB then I upgraded 2 jewels both 10% put me on like 98 Something

[dire cave]

does mana flare only scale with max mana or does it also benefit from spell/fire damage?

[gaunt badge]

Hey guys. Is it possible to run COC while you have Kaom's heart? Seen builds in poe ninja. Is it only for dps numbers or there is a tech. Thanks!

[dire cave]

this shouldn't be possible

since kaom's removes all spirit

that said if you are running something like choir of the storm its semi possible since choir casts lightning bolt on crit

or if you are running something like mana flare support

which casts mana flare on crit to deal damage equal to 20% of mana

[gaunt badge]

Yes! They all have choir of the storm. So it is possible? Does the skill slotted in coc will work w/o activating it since there is no spirit?

There are like 10+ with almost the same build. So, I was wondering what is the tech

[dire cave]

cast on crit is a persistent buff hence why it wont work if you have no spirit

and choir of the storm is a unique that bypasses that by casting lightning bolt on crit

[atomic hemlock]

Can somebody explain why the Soul Core of Opiloti states: '15% chance to cause Bleeding on hit', but the Soul Core of Tacati states: '15% chance to poison on Hit with this weapon'? Does this mean that the Opiloti core is global bleed chance and would work with thorns?

[gaunt badge]

Thanks for your reply man! You have a good day!

[bright haven]

Hi, is it possible to make a bleed build with crossbows?

[dire cave]

possible yes. good idk

[north pivot]

@ornate anvil - what spirit gem do you think is a priority for Gas Grenade (poison cloud) build? Assuming Withering Presence > Scavenger > Defensive whatever?

Or anyone else who may know.

[ornate anvil]

plague bearer

full poison is plague bearer -> whatever you want

withering/scavenger/wind dancer

dunno how much withering presence helps you, if youre full poison use arrow rain + the wither gem

prolly can do min/max on the tree for wither nodes on 2nd slot

[dawn spire]

Dark effigy might be worth using on a poison build as well. 20% quality on it = 20% chance to wither on hit

[ornate anvil]

didnt they change effigy?

thought the chance to wither was now based on the damage it dealt or something like that

[void osprey]

hello, could someone help me identify that helmet and chest piece is this?

[dire cave]

chest is perfidy

cant find the helmet on the wiki

nvm helmet is ironride

[dire cave]

^^ hope it helps

[atomic halo]

body is perfidy

[dire cave]

does mana flare get boosted by spell damage and fire damage increases? I assume it does but just want to make sure

[quartz cairn]

Is needing to cap spell suppression fairly universal, or specific to builds? And, similar question, do only specific builds need to work about immunity to corrupted blood/bleed or all builds?

Worry not work*

[dire cave]

afaik spell suppression is not in poe2

you might be in the wrong poe chat

[quartz cairn]

Yeah sorry wrong channel

[chilly swan]

If I'm doing an EB build, are nodes like 40% increased ES from Focus still valuable?

ie. will that increased ES turn into mana? I know that increased max ES doesn't, but, I'm not sure about the increased ES from equipped X

[dawn spire]

I believe so, but I haven't tested it

The focus is still granting es, but I think it gets turned into mana after its final es value is determined

[dire cave]

can you have both convert fire to cold and convert lightning to cold at the same time?

[chilly swan]

Hmmm, I might be able to do a respec sometime later and report back...

It makes sense as a local modifier, but, not sure what the order is when on the tree.

[dire cave]

EB will turn all ES from gear into mana but if you use something like everlasting gaze you still get ES and in this way % increased ES on tree will still work

but % ES from tree will not increase mana in any way

[chilly swan]

This wording is slightly different than the % maximum ES though. I have no maximum ES to modify, so it makes sense that those don't work. But, I do have ES on gear still.

I didn't think I had enough points to actually test it, but, I think I do. One moment...

[chilly swan]

It looks like you're right, as far as I can tell, there's no benefit from the "X% inc ES from Equipped Y" on the tree.

[dire cave]

I'm assuming % and flat ES increases on gear still work tho

say if a focus had 50 flat ES and 50% increased ES it would be mana instead no?

[chilly swan]

Yeah. As long as the modifier is local it should work.

Or just flat ES from the tree will work, obviously.

[dire cave]

there is no flat ES on tree

at least not to my knowledge

[chilly swan]

Spectral Ward?

Evasion and Energy Shield node at the start of Monk

[dire cave]

fair

but you get far more ES from body armour

[chilly swan]

Energy Shield node at the start of Witch area as well.

[dire cave]

fair point

spectral ward is a lie man

[chilly swan]

Yeah, definitely. I'm mostly just curious how everything interacts as opposed to whether it's "correct" 😛

[dire cave]

need 1200 EV only to get 100 ES

ES base body armour is 400-600 ES

base alone is also almost 100 ES

[chilly swan]

Yeah, it's a trap for sure.

[dire cave]

I made too many characters this league for testing alone

making a mana flare lightning ball atm

[chilly swan]

I've been making an Impending Doom Chonk, but, right now it feels bad to take EB.

[dire cave]

sounds rough

[dawn spire]

In 0.2 they killed that interaction. EB with everlasting gaze does not leave you with ES. Same with ghostwrithe

[vale mesa]

Is it likely that the effect of The Deepest Tower (enemies in your presence count as low life) would override any mods that specifically target enemies with full life?

[chilly swan]

It's not too bad actually. I've got CI, MoM, and about to take EB. I mostly wanted to just make a build where Darkness worked. I've been surprised by how good Darkness feels as a defensive layer. It's like getting 600 free ES.

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure, to be honest. I don't think it would? There's nothing logically wrong with an enemy being flagged as both full life and low life... But I have no idea

Obviously there's no life value that can satisfy both criteria, but if it's just the flags that need to be set, I don't see any logical impossibility

[dire cave]

which patch

its not mentioned in the initial DotH release

[dawn spire]

I thought it was 0.2 initial release. Hm. I might be conflating it with something...

[dire cave]

everlasting gaze did get nerfed hard

[dawn spire]

Oh, my bad. They made it so if you go CI+ghostwrithe, the bonus es from ghostwrithe scales with your new life (1). Same with EB and blood magic.

[dire cave]

with the old 20% of mana as ES now being 6%

[dawn spire]

Sorry

[atomic halo]

they killed the ci ghostwrithe interaction which is similar

[dire cave]

u almost had me

[dawn spire]

Yeah sorry, you can still get ES with everlasting and EB

[dire cave]

its so painful with less than 50% crit chance

either enemies have reduced crit chance values or crit chance is scuffed

43% crit chance atm but keep frequently getting 8-10 casts of no crits

[chilly swan]

I took Ambush for my clear skill on another character and it made all the difference. I'm surprised at how many of the "Extra damage to full life enemies" nodes are slept on. They give an insane boost to clear.

[austere reef]

do heralds count towards trinity gauge?

[dire cave]

oh yeah ambush exists

[dawn spire]

There's a 0.36% chance of going 10 non-crits in a row at 43% crit chance, so I'm pressing X to doubt

[dire cave]

doubt all you will

aint gunna change my bossing experience

or single target

[dawn spire]

Experience all you will
Ain't gunna eliminate confirmation bias

[tropic onyx]

does skill speed increase reload speed too? or just attack speed

[dawn spire]

I'd hold alt and click on the reload keyword. I think it should affect reload speed but I'm not sure

[void osprey]

thank u so much, ur a life saver

[chilly swan]

If I have 2 curses on an enemy, A and B, and I cast curse A over and over, will curse B remain on the enemy?

[dire cave]

just atk speed

[tropic onyx]

sad

[dire cave]

dont think reload is considered a skill

[chilly swan]

Those sound like recomb odds 😛

[tropic onyx]

because im trying to do invoker permafrost bolt

[dire cave]

why u have 2 death numbers?

[tropic onyx]

first is poe 1 second is poe 2

[chilly swan]

0 deaths in poe 1?

Did you play it?

[tropic onyx]

yeahh made it to act 4 so far

doing a rolling magma elementalist build so far

[chilly swan]

That makes more sense. I thought you'd gotten to pinnacle bosses and still not died once. O_O

[north furnace]

any pob pro here wanna configurate my build on it and tell me my dps please?

[dawn spire]

Yes

[chilly swan]

What if I'm playing with a friend who can have multiple curses, but I can't..?

[atomic halo]

dont apply any curses

otherwise it will override theirs

otherwise, their curses will apply just fine

curse limit only checks the source of the curse

[junior mesa]

What else would it be...? Skill speed affects more things than attack speed does, as well as all the things attack speed does, yeah?

[atomic halo]

it does affect reload speed

basically anything you can use the word "speed" for that isn't movement speed skill speed affects

[junior mesa]

That's what I thought

@tropic onyx may want to check back in since you were given wrong info

[tropic onyx]

oh so i should grab it for my permafrost build

[atomic halo]

it's a beneficial stat

make a choice

[sacred pelican]

why can't I highlight and ctrl+c ctrl+v items from trade site to PoB? I used to be able to do it

[humble comet]

What are must have passives for fire/fireball build sorc? I'm constantly switching but honestly don't really notice a difference. I'm level 89

[pearl sluice]

does anyone know if there is a way to have this last longer or get multiple stacks of it? Its a bit frustrating how easy it is to stack charged staff so I can basically shoot lightning but if I wanted to play the stagger stuff I have only a few seconds adn then have to do the combo again and use staggering palm

[dawn spire]

It scales with skill effect duration, so persistence support would work, along with %inc duration nodes on the tree

[pearl sluice]

ty Byron

[dawn spire]

Which sorc? And are you scaling Ignites, or just hits? And are you life or ES? And what other skills are you using aside from fireball? And are you using the fire -> cold conversion gloves?

In other words, it kinda depends on a lot of stuff

[chilly swan]

If I kill an enemy with an attack, is the explosion from Zealous Inquisition considered an attack?

I've just noticed the AoE on it seems quite large, but, I'm not sure if it's aoe is normally just massive.

[pearl sluice]

on the trade site when I do enchant and put chaos damage the top part is showing up, how do I get the adds chaos damage. None of the options I am putting is making it come up but its there in my other searches

[atomic halo]

wdym

you dont see items with the adds chaos damage enchant?

[serene minnow]

what happens to annoints with this? minions get or player get?

[atomic halo]

player gets

[formal violet]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[stiff hinge]

are lines like this
affected by aura eff on tree at all

[elfin raft]

I'm struggling making some gear decisions on my on LS Deadeye. I need to decide between 3950 ES + 80 Evasion w 50% chaos res ---- or 3700 ES + 80 Evasion w 71 Chaos res. How should I think of the trade off between 250 ES and 20% chaos

Sorry - I should also mention the 3950 ES comes with nearly 18% DPS increase

I've been feeling really comfortable with 71% chaos and am worried about making the switch down to 50%. Although some guidance I've read is 50% chaos is enough but I'm guessing that is more midgame guidance

[junior mesa]

From a strictly durability point of view, 71% chaos res is 30% more eHP against chaos than the 50% res with more ES, and chaos is also the most threatening damage type for ES (since you take double chaos). But 3700 should be okay, especially if you can patch up the res later

[elfin raft]

Thanks - I'm leaning toward 3950 ES / 50 Chaos / +18% DPS instead of 3700 ES / 71 Chaos / no DPS upgrade

[stiff hinge]

anybody know?

[proper sapphire]

can you stack annoint on the amulet and node from skill tree and receive benefit from both?

[midnight obsidian]

no

[hazy scaffold]

I am doing a pure ice sorc. Is eye of winter better than frost boot for single target damage? I have the brotherhood topaz ring so all shock becomes cold.

Bolt*

[keen spindle]

hey guys, since this is a flat reduction, does this mean this can reduce enemy armour to negative?

[hoary bolt]

it can't

however, if can effectively reduce armour to 0, which makes you able to break it instantly

[chilly swan]

How do Unbreakable and Wind Dancer interact? Do I only get the stun threshold when I'm hit? Or do I get it as long as I have the buff?

[wraith palm]

GGG why the fuckin flip does mind over matter not prevent darkness loss for acolyte? scrap the character start over

[crude tree]

If I were to make a QS build that's purely non elemental, what class/ascendency would make the most sense? I've started as monk but now I'm thinking that acolyte may not be that useful

[north heart]

There’s so many warrior builds to do holy.. they all branch into something else

[viral sage]

which mana node within monk passive tree that can help with mana problem? my invoker always deplete mana instantly when facing rare and bosses

[woven depot]

Titan would probably be good for hulking form

[dire cave]

acolyte or invoker?

[viral sage]

invoker ssf

[dire cave]

assuming you are using glacial strike

or any other form of elemental dmg

[viral sage]

tempest flurry..im building lightning dmg

[dire cave]

I think your best bet is going to be inspiration support and then just get some regen nodes on tree

if you have twice the mana regen than skill cost you should be fine against rares

since life/mana leech is only physical unless you're acolyte

with acolyte mana leech can be elemental aswell

so try get conservative casting on tree

16% reduced mana cost of skills + 20% mana regen

[viral sage]

thx..also do u hav any idea how to generate power charge with combat frenzy+resonance but lightning dmg..or other easier method?

[dire cave]

depends on how dependant you are on power charges for your damage

[viral sage]

its just to enable charged staff

for now i use siphoning strike but the animation annoying sometimes..and im bad at animation cancelling 😅

[dire cave]

so assuming you need max charges every 30-40 seconds you can just get electrocute buildup on charged staff as a support

or use profane ritual on corpses but this way you wouldnt get any charges during boss fights

[ruby turret]

i need some help for a more streamlined rapid shot build, im following rue's rapid shot amazon but he does both gem support swapping and 1 weapon weapon set swapping for clear to boss, is there a way to make this just more convienent to use? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ruetoo-rapid-shot-amazon

i could just get used to swapping constantly but that sounds super inconvienent and i want to know if its possible to just not have to do that and not lose a lot of build power

[viral sage]

put electrocute support gem on charged staff skill? how do i generate pwr charge?

[dire cave]

you can generate the initial power charges in maps or campaign with profane ritual and then keep it going with charged staff

or use siphon strike

another option could be to use either storm wave or tempest bell with electrocute support

[north pivot]

@ornate anvil or anyone know if the poison cloud from Gas Grenade does increased damage if an enemies armour is broken via some means?

[uncut nexus]

hi guys i am doing warrior rn and i want to buidl totem

which totem is better between the one from merc like artillery or one from warrior like the ancestral meta one

(secret option is the effigy)

[north pivot]

Well, if you're playing Warrior, start with Shockwave Totem until you get Ancestral Totem (then link it to whatever melee skill you want, usually Sunder is pretty good)

If playing Merc, then you still have a wait until you get Artillery (so you still may have to play Shockwave or just Xbow until)

[ornate anvil]

No the ailment hit is based on the pre mitigation damage, so block doesnt even account IIRC

[north pivot]

so no use for armour break.

[wicked breach]

Does my own Rage matter for Ancestral Warriors? Or do I need to run a Font of Rage for them?

[dire cave]

I personally enjoy siege cascade alongside ripwire ballista

but I think ancestral totem is best for raw totem damage

[mint summit]

You can have a weapon swap with sacrifice + minions + profane ritual for bosses

[ornate anvil]

For gas no

[noble willow]

Does anybody know if theres a guide out there for the attack "hand of chayula"? it says you can put skill gems into that gem instead of support gems but none of my skill gems I have will go into it and I can't find anything online explaining how it works, When I use it pretty much nothing happens and I just slap the enemys

[ornate anvil]

Armour break is for HVR

[mint summit]

What does the skill say you can socket?

[noble willow]

As far as I can tell it should be any gem, it just says place skill gems into the sockets at the bottom

[mint summit]

That part where it says skills is just the general description of meta skills. You need to read the specific skill to see what sort of skills can be socketed. In this case it’s only curses and marks.

[noble willow]

Thanks for explaining that, I just started playing the game a couple of days ago so I'm still pretty lost 😂

[mint summit]

No problem, lots of stuff is confusing, It’s good to slow down and read the skills carefully + read the descriptions of the special terms within the skills when something isn’t working how you expect.

You should be pressing that right stick to inspect button a good amount.

[dire cave]

which merc ascendancy would be better for a totem build gemling or tactician?

gemling = +2 levels and 14% quality while tactician is stun/ailment threshold and empowered pin (not sure how good the 30% totem skill speed is with the totems only attack when I'm firing projectiles)

[empty comet]

so weve got a ritualist aura bot running over 500 rarity with massive presence and gravebind, i would like to add a tactician bannerbot to the mix for the added movespeed and def, and the extra dmg is never bad

i understand that with both the aura bot and bannerbot running gravebind they will effectively both get credit for the kills, which the bannerbot needs to generate valor, but what rarity will get applied to the kill?

is it necessary for the banner bot to stack rarity as well or will it simply take the higher of the two?

[oblique marlin]

what is the fastest weapon in game? Quill Rain?

[empty comet]

that would depend on several factors

you could technically still stack dex to make pillar of the caged god really fast, i wouldnt recommend it this league with the nerfs, but you could

beyond that, pillar starts at 1.4 aps, while quill rain starts at 2.5

last league we could really hit some stupid numbers, never found anymore than 30.3aps effective tho

[dire cave]

was this dex stacking with pillar and hand of wisdom and action?

[empty comet]

all of the above

[broken wing]

is there any updated dawn of the hunt Acolyte of chayula monk on maxroll or anywhere?

[empty comet]

i had a 4% 1-12 HOWA, 94% ingenuity, max accuracy dex and all stats on rings with dex enchants, 100% adorn wtith atk speed and accuracy corrupted weith dex enchants

attack speed did very litte for me once i got that high, dex and accuracy did far far more

but i still picked all of those nodes up as well

dang thought i still had the POB but it doesnt look like i do

so weve got a ritualist aura bot running

[static thicket]

Planning a build around poison twisters. The idea is to use these --
Plaguefinger and Splinter of Loratta.
I know it might not sound super strong but does anyone have an idea on how I could scale the flat damage pretty well? Would it just be jewels/rings with elemental DMG? Still deciding ascendancy too. Just looking for some input. 🙂 thanks!

[dire cave]

HOWA with original sin

[static thicket]

Oh wow OS isn't that expensive this league

I didn't even bother to look

Good call that simplifies things

[dire cave]

does witch hunter ascendancy work with totems?

[uncut umbra]

hey I just asked this in after acts help but maybe it is more befitting here.

Couple of questions on ignite:

1. Apparently base ignite chance is at highest 25% based on how much we hit and enemy threshold for that type of ailment. If I'm understanding right overwhelming presence just makes it easier to hit over threshold by making enemy threshold to elements lower?

2. How does chance to ignite and chance to inflict ailments work? Increased chance to ignite is "multiplicative with base 25%. But when invested in both ignite and ailment are those increases additive in sense of final multiplication

(assume we get 200% increased ignite chance and 45% increased ailment chance is final calculation = 25% * (200+45)/100?)

[dapper saddle]

do people still use Poeninja to make look at poe2 builds

[edgy ore]

Where do I post if I need assistance with my build? I got good clear but my single target is currently ASS and I am kinda stumped

I am doing a Voltaxic Rift build and currently I am clearing with lightning arrow but when it comes to single target I have close to no damage at all

[karmic geyser]

ignite chance is based on enemy ailment threshold

[edgy ore]

I am doing chayula for the ES leech, my mana costs are high af so I can easily sustain my ES shield with lightning damage

[brittle anvil]

what else but lightning rods

[spice oak]

I am trying to make a CoC/CoF chronomancer, I see everyone is using frost bomb for that, is it because it inflicts a lot of freezing?

[edgy ore]

Yeah but they arent doing any damage ;_;

I tried lightning rod + magnetic salvo

it doesnt do enough

[brittle anvil]

do you wither?

shock magnitude

[edgy ore]

only 7%, shock magnitude is raised

i think its at 40% or something

all my jewels have 12% chaos damage and 15% magnitude to ailments

then i have 15% dmg per elemental ailment, I proc shock + freeze + electrocute really quickly

got the weird quiver "beyond reach"

since i have uber mana leech i use ambrosia too, on a flask with 69% increased charges

still not doing too much

[brittle anvil]

prolly lacking flat damage

that bow can only goes up to ~300 damage

and your quiver adds nothing but freeze and electrocute

[empty comet]

lightning rod was disapointing in its performance tbh, even stacked with wild storm it seemed so lackluster

[oblique marlin]

how much crit chance i need with this passive? like 50% enough?

[oblique marlin]

will it work for this affix? ie it will roll it twice as well? as that spear also purely lightning damage

[atomic halo]

1. you can hit for more than their ignite threshold, giving you more than 25% ignite chance
2. they should be additive. with 25% base ignite chance, 200% inc ignite, 45% inc. ailment, i would expect 0.25*3.45 = 0.8625% chance to ignite

[oblique marlin]

interesting, someone thought about build based on gloves with knockback direction is reverted affix?
like something with Staggering Palm (increased knockback distance) + passives While Surrounded, there is for example +20% IAs while surrounded + liferegen, etc

[broken wing]

For some reason i wana already plan my build for a monk Chayula build ( leveling) version i dont get something here . First most skills are higher tier skills and this guides say they assume im already level 30+ what build should i do than if i dont meet the requirements

And theres no updated Chayula ascendency build guide on maxroll

No leveling or endgame variant for dawn of the hunt

[austere reef]

Does bleed do more if you hit an armour broken enemy or does the scaling of bleed calculate the hit before armour mitigation?

[oblique marlin]

but cast on charm use CAN NOT be activated, its active by default, will this still work?

or it means it will work ONLY when skill that will be casted by Cast on charm use will be active?

[proper sapphire]

what kind of damage do volatile plants do? can i survive against them with chaos innoculation?

[dire cave]

they should do full chaos damage but I could also see them doin phys dmg

[north heart]

y'all think earthquake is trash?

[dire cave]

I do

but I also think hammer of the gods is trash

[north heart]

leap is kinda boring idk lol

[dire cave]

leap + boneshatter is the only real clear mace has tho

[dire cave]

for example if you have a total of 1000 evasion after %increases but with 30% less defences would it then be 700?

[atomic halo]

yes

[old ivy]

are there any viable builds that play like an old d2 frozen orb build?

[dawn spire]

That node has no interaction with crit chance

[dawn spire]

A corrupting cry build with warbringer and seismic cry would be great with those. It would be like a black hole

[edgy ore]

Yeah I was thinkin about getting a different quiver but the electrocute and freeze is actually helping alot

I have the 2 nodes that give 15% damage for each elemental ailment, thats shock,electrocute,freeze (so 90% dmg increase)

[north heart]

Ofc

[oblique marlin]

lucky rolled twice means if one of rolls will be crit, it will pick crit

[viral sage]

does warbringer "turtle charm" node give u chances to block chaos orb from volatile plant?

[static torrent]

It's not lucky crit, it's lucky damage. That is to say, 30% of the time when the damage is rolled, it will roll twice and pick the higher outcome. This is independent of critical hits, critical damage bonus and similar mechanics.

[real knoll]

What else is fun and meta just now appart from blood mage

[north pivot]

fun is subjective

[neat zinc]

Can someone explain how the spirit works with cast on freeze? my max spirit is 60 and im using both which is supposed to cost 120

[earnest steppe]

anyone know if concoction path finder is still alright or has it been nerfed

[rapid lily]

Are there any good fire builds for any class? All I see is lightning and ice stuff

[north heart]

Is lightning spear smith of kitava good? How is that

[atomic halo]

yes it is good

(ask a better question for a better answer)

[north heart]

How does that build compare to an Amazon lighting spear build? On smith wouldn’t I have to path all the way around

[rapid lily]

Are there any good fire builds for any class? All I see is lightning and ice stuff

[atomic halo]

tankier for sure, but the damage is much lower

and yeah you do spend a lot of points just making your way to ranger area

[pine mulch]

why when i mark pinned the crit effectiveness disappear?

is going to be always crit?

[static plinth]

Pinned means they cant Evade your attacks iirc

So your effective crit is just your crit (5%)

Whereas it's 1.95% factoring in your chance to miss an attack

[chilly swan]

Does painters servant or gain extra x damage affect incinerate?

And... is incinerate a hit...?

[willow lotus]

im lvl 80 now. Is there a good build that can help with map clearing ? i'm using a frost bomb CoF/CoC comet chrono build, but it's slow

[chilly mist]

any support skills worth using in discipline?

[drifting gazelle]

what spells have the highest base crit chance? i know comet with quality has a +2% base crit, is there a way to check in a list?

[brittle anvil]

bone spells

[drifting gazelle]

hmm wonder if i can make a bone cage comet autobomber

[cobalt pollen]

is extra additive

getting extra from fire infusion and you also have the warrior cluster that gives you 12% phys as extra fire

[atomic halo]

yes

additive

[cobalt pollen]

thank

[stiff hinge]

bFINALLY HOLY SHIT

[oblique marlin]

attack time here to prevent speed stackers? i have alot ias and skill speed but it still jumping so slow....

[cobalt pollen]

the lack of attack speed modifier makes me think its unchangeable

[oblique marlin]

martial tempo can still be inserted, but looks like do nothing

[dire cave]

for int stacking is flat int better or % int?

[dawn spire]

Martial tempo works on the base attack time but there is no way to modify the +1.1s to total attack time

[dawn spire]

Depends on how much % and flat int you already have

And the amount of each you're weighing

[dire cave]

sub 600 int

question is mainly to figure out anoint

[dawn spire]

Well you can weigh each node against the other. Look at how much % int you have already and math it out. No way around it

[serene minnow]

if you place a totem on weapon set(2) that has points on talent tree points with totem bonuses and then switch to weapon set(1) do they keep those bonuses or are they gone since switch off passive tree

[static torrent]

They keep the bonuses.

[karmic geyser]

do the math

or pob

[serene minnow]

summon totems on weapon set(2) then swap to weapon set(1) that has generic %damage on tree, will they inherit that since totems inherit your offensive buffs?

[unique hornet]

does the lacerate skill gem wotk with Dark Effigy?

[atomic halo]

by default you need to deal physical damage to bleed

dark effigy only has base chaos damage

[unique hornet]

ah

thanks

[unique hornet]

tell me if I am crazy, but does the profanity support gem activate every time Dark Effigy casts its spell?

[inland pelican]

Not sure how to scale my lvl 96 LS Amazon further from here... Anyone got some ideas?
https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/poglefj31k6r/KioDota-2544/Kio_Huntress

I'll try to add some end-game megalomaniac / prism of belief soon. For anything, I got ~40 div to spend right now.

[junior mesa]

Sacred Flame is an easy suggestion, and I don't really like your helmet either, but SF will immediately and massively buff your DPS

[north pivot]

Any non LS / non Rake / Amazon build ideas chaps?

[gleaming kite]

any suggestions for getting more movement speed on a warrior besides boots? there is like nothing on the SW side of the passive tree..

have parrying motion annointed

[junior mesa]

Honestly, go to the SE part of the tree is my suggestion

[gleaming kite]

adrenaline rush isn't horribly far

[north heart]

wtf are these huntress builds lmao. How are people doing this fast spin to win around the map and just shooting nados everywhere

[north pivot]

Anyone played Chayula Gas Grenade? What did you use to level in campaign?

[glacial plover]

Does PoB factor a Dualstring Bow as firing x2 projectiles in its DPS calculation, or is it only counting a single arrow? (I ask because if memory serves it doesn't count minions as firing multiple projectiles by default)

In other words... if I have a Dual String that reflects my DPS coming out to 1.5k, but then a Cultist bow that reflects as a significantly higher DPS, can I count on that to be accurate?

[woven depot]

Iirc you have to manually add the count of projectiles in the skill section

for bows that is

[glacial plover]

ah that's where it's hiding, thanks

[north pivot]

Does Fast Forward not work with Explosive Grenade anymore

[static torrent]

No, Grenades have a different stat to duration now called Grenade Detonation Time.

[north pivot]

ah

[north pivot]

hrmm Expedite should work

[magic marlin]

Just curious, are there any viable Stormweaver builds that don't require more Divines than god? 🤣
Just tried a Frost Bolt / Frost Wall, that struggled vs campaign bosses enough to make me give up on Cruel Viper

[quartz cairn]

Any cool gemling builds? I kind of regret picking this ascendancy D:

[hollow bronze]

You can respec I believe

[static torrent]

You can, yes. You would just need to run a Trial that gives the same or more points that you already have, so if you've only got 2 points, you'd need to do the first floor of Sekhemas or above.

[quartz cairn]

I want to see what options I have as gemling but yeah I ultimately plan on respec and going to tactician. Thank you

[woven depot]

Flicker strike is pretty popular on Gemling, fun ability

[quartz cairn]

Oooo that's something I'd like to try, I'll look into it thank you

[summer prairie]

Anyone have any tips for armor based builds? Specifically I have like 80% armor reduction and 30% evasion and 50ish block. I'm currently doing ok in Tier 6-7 maps but need to upgrade all my gear. Got plenty of currency, but debating the merits of fully investing in hybrid Armor/evasion or just going all in on armor. I know armor is pretty weak... but not sure if I'm missing anything

Those numbers might be a bit off btw (not at my computer currently), but the main question is regarding whether I should invest in hybrid or not.

[junior mesa]

Armor is just pretty weak. Evasion and ES scale better. Armor suffers from only being good against phys

[neon zenith]

Curious, what do you guys think is a fun build currently that isn't the lightning zapper that everyone is lpaying at the moment

[viral sage]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Stylebender is this for monk or placeholder for upcoming class?

[atomic halo]

wdym

it's not neccesarily "for monk" or for anything it's for any build that deals phys damage and break armour

the icon shows what looks like a witch using bone spells

so probably it's for bone skills

[viral sage]

Now that u mention it..it does look like witch upclose

I thought it was monk coz its within monk tree

Im bad at making build on my own but cant stop thinking how to make monk armor break build with that node

[stable siren]

im slow
can u explain how
in dudes build hes got +4 melee skills and +2 jewel for a specific skill
total across gear
so basically i assume he dropped level 14-16 gems on everything? so why buy the jewel when i can just use a higher level skill gem..

[atomic halo]

the external sources add above 20 (21 with the corrupt)

so with lvl 21 gems and +6 you get lvl 27 gems

[stable siren]

and it scales linearly?

[atomic halo]

exponentionally

each level is minimum 5% more from the last level

scaling depends on skill

hammer is like 10% more per level nvm

you can see the graphs on poe2db

nvm those graphs are only for flat not damage effectiveness

but still

[brittle anvil]

you can tell chatgpt to draw the graph for ya

[viral sage]

does physical dmg has special property like elemental dmg? e,g ice can slow and lightning can shock

[midnight obsidian]

bleed if it the skill lets you

also bigger stuns

[brittle anvil]

and poison

[viral sage]

so physical dont have any special/hidden property by itself?

[brittle anvil]

just more stun buildup

[viral sage]

what type passive node that can improve physical dmg? usually for elemental, theres penetration node

[brittle anvil]

armor break

[viral sage]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Bleeding#BleedingRef the 'armor break' part, does it means being fully armour broken wont have effect on bleeding dmg?

is it same to poison too?

[brittle anvil]

yeah but bleed calculate pre-mitigation damage so armor break is not required at all

and same with poison I think

[junior mesa]

Yeah same

[north pivot]

hrmm a bit slighly annoyed at build creators who come up with builds / advertise it and then it's all a Deepest Tower setup

Anyone played Chayula Monk Gas Grenades (Poison Cloud) build? If yes, how did you level it beyond Act 3.

[dawn spire]

Rakestomp can be used to level anything up to at least act 3

[north pivot]

yeah sorry I needed to amend my comment - i'm stuck in Act 3 as damage fallen off Rakestomp.

[dawn spire]

What ascendancy points do you have unlocked? And do you have access to gas grenade yet?

[north pivot]

Yes got Gas Gren. I took Reality Rendering due to the interaction it has with Gas Gren's clouds.

[dawn spire]

Then I'd say play gas grenade my guy

[north pivot]

damage terrible with GG atm. Without T3 support like Heft/Deadly Poison, feels so bad

oh yeah and sorry, it's SSF

[dawn spire]

Do you have a solid crossbow?

Could also go essence drain + Contagion if it doesn't feel super smooth. That will make your ascendancy node useless but that should be fine

Also do you have any +max poison stack nodes? Those are massive

[north pivot]

no i didnt take them because someone I think here said that +1 poison nodes are not effective during campaign mode.

[dawn spire]

For gas grenade?

[north pivot]

yeah

[dawn spire]

Also have you watched Dreamcore's video on gas grenade? That's the only resource I know of for how it operates

[north pivot]

yup

it's ok

i'll abandon the project.

thanks though 🙂

[dawn spire]

???

That's, um, not where I would have gone with that lmao

[north pivot]

well dont want to keep bothering everyone here.

[inland pelican]

SF didn't really help and the stat requirements are kind of painful to deal with

even with this one

tried changing the passive tree a bunch, following what other people were doing but it just wouldn't work out for me

[queen escarp]

bow or spear for leveling huntress?

[dawn spire]

Rakestomp is like the best for everything until act 3, then other stuff might be able to compete. Rake is a spear skill

[queen escarp]

is the difference big? im leveling as bow rn

[dawn spire]

Rakestomp can kill geonor before the first fog phase with a mediocre spear. I have never seen anything else come close for act 1. It starts to fall off quickly, but it's so absurdly strong in acts 1-2 that it still feels good even in act 3

Rake + stomping ground + brutality and only take str nodes on the tree

[queen escarp]

god damn haha

[dawn spire]

Maybe attack/skill speed if it's convenient

I think I parried a few hits when I did 0-fog geonor, but my worst attempt had 1 fog phase

[queen escarp]

hmm might have too swap too spear xD

[dawn spire]

It might not be worth it if you're already in act 2

[queen escarp]

im still act 1

[dawn spire]

Respeccing to strength nodes is expensive

Oh, I see

What level?

[queen escarp]

haha just started only 4

so im chillin

[dawn spire]

Oh, you can't even use rake yet lmao

It requires level 6 I think

[queen escarp]

maybe bow till rake then

[dawn spire]

So yeah, once you get rake you're even bigger chillin

[queen escarp]

yup haha

i think rake is after red vale

[dawn spire]

Yeah that works. I usually go spark + Contagion with a low level caster weapon

[queen escarp]

ye ive heard that contagion is really good early

[dawn spire]

It's insane early lmao. You just cast it on one mob and you can run through a whole zone and the trail of mobs behind you just dies repeatedly as new enemies aggro you

As long as you have a decent enough weapon to make it one-shot stuff

Contagion + persistence +magnified effect is what I use

[queen escarp]

ye i woulda used it but i almost have rake so no point now

[queen escarp]

alright i see what u mean haha

[serene minnow]

"Enemies in your Presence count as being on Low Life" for totems would it use their location as the presense area distance?

[queen escarp]

ritualist any good?

[unreal sierra]

pretty sure its your location only

[dawn spire]

Good for what? All ascendancies can be used for good and bad builds.

[queen escarp]

true that i guess i just wonderd like in general compared too the meta ig

[dawn spire]

This patch is young and there might be loads of undiscovered builds so I can't say whether or not ritualist is meta. If you're just looking for the most popular builds, then you can check poeninja for that

[queen escarp]

ye i looked poe ninja on ritualist

they all going primal strike

[dawn spire]

But poeninja is just a list of what people are currently playing, it has zero bearing on how strong each ascendancy can be and what builds are possible

Well, it guess it shows possible builds

[queen escarp]

how easy is it too theory craft tho haha

[dawn spire]

For poe2? I think it's pretty easy. I haven't used any build guides and 4/5 of the builds I make feel good and do what I wanted them to.

But it depends on your standards for what a good build is

[queen escarp]

oo ok now im tempted too do it haha

[queen escarp]

just something that works

[dawn spire]

Define "works"

[queen escarp]

ill make ritualist sum

[queen escarp]

able too do most content

[dawn spire]

Define "content"

[queen escarp]

whatever i wanna do haha

with said character that is

[dawn spire]

Is the campaign 1 content or 20+ contents? Is each act 1 content? How do you quantify content?

[queen escarp]

endgame content

so maps etc

[dawn spire]

Is a pinnacle boss 4 contents? One for each difficulty? Is each league mechanic (ritual, breach, etc) one content?

Is each unique map a different content?

[queen escarp]

i would say like bossing is a content, mapping is content, league mechanics

[old shuttle]

am i missing some obvious way to save a point

[dawn spire]

So you want the build to do at least 2/3 of mapping, bossing, and league mechanics?

[queen escarp]

pretty much

i want too be able too shape the build too do anything haha

with the right budget

[dawn spire]

If you drop three of your starting small nodes and take 2 of the attribute ones, that'll do it

[dawn spire]

Now you've added in a whole extra can of worms. How much budget?

I can't think of any build that cannot eventually do all content with enough investment and strong enough gear

[queen escarp]

haha um well however much im able too get and progress said build

[old shuttle]

nah i mostly mean with the conectivity

[north heart]

anyone doing twisters? Do they really only hit enemies every 66 seconds or is there a way to get around that

[dawn spire]

We're in such vague territory now that everything we're saying is meaningless. Theorycrafting your own build is a risk no matter how you slice it. I never said it was easy, I said I think it's easy. I have a decade of experience making builds in poe1 and I've read every gem in poe2 at least once.

If you read very thoroughly, fiddle with pob, and know the mechanics of poe2, you should be able to make a build that can scale well and get you to endgame

[queen escarp]

ye im still very "fresh" according too poe community cause its such an indepth game

but i like too learn

and i think build guides get boring

[dawn spire]

Once you have a grasp of the mechanics, create a skeleton of a build. Nothing super in depth, but just an idea. Then I'd recommend checking out poeninja for inspiration and seeing if anyone else has that same idea. See where they ran with it. See if you can incorporate their ideas into your build.

[woven depot]

I usually start very simple “I want to use X ability” or “I want a fire/lightning build that’s fast” etc

[queen escarp]

alright will do 🫡

[woven depot]

Main goal this league was to make shield charge hit as hard as possible, found a nice set up for oneshotting pinnacles, then started fiddling with ways to increase my clear, mainly because I was hard struggling in sim t4

[dawn spire]

You take an extra small node in the cluster at the top, but that's all I can see to save a point. Unless you wanna drop a jewel socket

[woven depot]

could drop one in the bow cluster as well, but no clue how important that one would be for your build

[old shuttle]

i mostly mean directly save. not just shuffle around, just feels so icky having so many sections that are 2 off of connecting lol

[woven depot]

Feel you

[dawn spire]

Assuming you need all the clusters you have allocated, I cannot see any way to change your pathing to save points

[woven depot]

crit rate against full life enemies is kinda iffy imo, lot of investment for global ambush

[old shuttle]

counterargumenthttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324862098567725066/1374007998556672122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_18.mp4?ex=682c7c2a&is=682b2aaa&hm=a3f77e5eac6b71e12e568bed19e0160db8ca023e45099b1b18b7e274e4d6bbf7&

i already have too much damage

im too far in already

[umbral gale]

Newbie Endgame Gearing Help?

[ruby roost]

is barbaric strength better than overwhelming strike?

[idle goblet]

I got a question about the execute support gem , it says "Supported skill deal 50% MORE damage with hits against enemies that are on Low Life". If i use Execute on Lighting Warp and use it on a cullable enemy (so, low life) the 50% more damage is calculated just for its damage, or the whole Lighting Warp Area Damage gets the 50% bonus damage ?

I suppose it should be calculated more or less like an aliment, so adding to the damage of THAT enemy not of the whole AoE. But i'm not sure

[dawn spire]

It checks low life on each target hit, not just the one you actually cast lightning warp on

[idle goblet]

Yeah, so if LW damage AOE is 100, it stays like that and the 50% more damage is calculated when computing the damage of each enemy

Thx

[north heart]

Do yall find leap boneshatter kinda boring?

[chilly swan]

I completely disagree. You're hitting enemies while they're at full life most of the game.

[lucid glade]

Just learned there's a new season (or at least a reset), I've looked at builds and lightning spear is still the thing right ? Deadeye's not been nerfed with it ?

[static torrent]

Are you referring to the upcoming race event? That's not a new leagues, that's just a brief race.

The league is still the same Dawn of the Hunt that started in 0.2

[lucid glade]

Not not the upcoming thing, the league that started a month or so ago, got sidetracked and didn't notice dawn of the hunt

[static torrent]

There haven't been any significant nerfs since the launch of 0.2, so Lightning Spear is still powerful.

Your wording just made me think that you had played in 0.2 and were checking in that the meta hasn't changed.

[lucid glade]

I probably didn't word it very well, haven't played since launch yeah

[lost elbow]

Is there any good build for ritualist with nice map clearing and high single target damage??

[gray patrol]

Besides lightning spear?

Probably

[dawn spire]

Ritualist (much like chronomancer, pathfinder, Smith of Kitava, Titan, and gemling) is an ascendancy that can do basically anything.

Ascendancies in poe2, overall, are very build-agnostic

[lost elbow]

Is primal strike good?? For high single target damage

[real knoll]

Does ambrosia stack with concoct?

[stiff hinge]

For chaos lich, would you go for +3 ED or +3 dark effigy jewel?

[static plinth]

Essence Drain

Dark Effigy is also good if its substantially cheaper

[stiff hinge]

its 17 vs 33 div

[round escarp]

Mana leech is considered recovery right?

[atomic halo]

yes

[inland pelican]

I don't need these passives anymore w/ sacred flame, right?

on a side note, how do you guys deal with mana sustain for ... the longer boss fights (carrying a full group, so bosses can have ~100 million hp)

LS amazon ^

[junior mesa]

There's a small cluster of nodes that reduces mana costs. If you take the three nodes that reduce mana costs in there, that should be 16% reduced. That's been enough for me

[pine mulch]

I'm doing a randomized build, warbringer and rolling slam

Any ideias?

[compact oriole]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/minion-army-infernalist-leveling-guide#passives-header

hey guys, can I follow this build?

for minion infernalist

[north pivot]

Can Radiant Grief be gambled?

[chilly swan]

If I have multiple Ancestral Warrior Totem gems equipped, do they each have a separate limit? Same question for Dark Effigy, Ripwire, Ballista, etc.

[atomic halo]

no

you cant just equip a bunch more skill gems to bypass the totem limit

also tooltip:

Totem Limit is shared between different types of Totem by default.

[chilly swan]

Do you know why I see so many totem builds running 2 of them? I'm assuming 1 is for bossing and 1 is for clear? Here's an example: https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawnssf/character/Starkmage-0792/TAA_Gosho?i=1&search=allskills%3DAncestral%2BWarrior%2BTotem%26skills%3DResonating%2BShield

[atomic halo]

it seems to me that one has the greatwood support, which limits that skill to only summoning 1, but making it stronger

so one setup has the greatwood setup to make it strong but the other ancestral warrior doesnt

so you get to spam those

[pearl vine]

does integrated efficiency apply to every skill or just for the skill with the gems? eg if i have 10 red gems to all my skill get 10 red gem bonus or is it a bonus to just a skill for each red gem?

[atomic halo]

only for the skill with the gems

[chilly swan]

Hmm... Do you know if the gemling ascendency that lets you use the same support twice would allow you to use something like overabundance twice on different skill slots?

[atomic halo]

well, that sounds like exactly what it does, so yeah.

[chilly swan]

What I mean is, both skills are Ancestral Totem, but in different slots.

So, if totems share the limit... Am I able to put 2 overabundance in and increase my limit by +2 instead of +1?

Or is each one increased by +1...

Probably the latter.

[atomic halo]

that's an interesting question, and i'm not exactly sure. is this in a situation with greatwood or without?

[chilly swan]

I would have tried without it, since Greatwood limits to 1.

[atomic halo]

well yeah, but it still takes the increase in limit in consideration by adding more dmg/aoe/life

[steel glade]

could some1 tell me why im barely generating frenzy charges? https://poe2.ninja/pob/7dd5

[brittle anvil]

you have barely any cold damage to freeze and herald of thunder is level 4 so you are barely electrocuting

[atomic halo]

lvl 4 and only 1 damage support

nvm 0 damage supports i thought that was conc eff

[steel glade]

why is cold damage relevant?

[brittle anvil]

maybe not, you either freeze of electrocute

and pin in some cases

[atomic halo]

hot gets damage eff. per level

so you need to level it for it to deal good damage

[steel glade]

thanx alot

[brittle anvil]

but the question is can you even build up electro cute with hot? 👀

I mean LS will kill them before they get electro cuted

[quaint heart]

@atomic halo could you help me with something in my build?

[formal violet]

Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

[quaint heart]

https://pobb.in/0ZuwVkFl-r-w Im following a build and its supposed to be able to do t4 xexsht yet im dying during t3 and following the instructions so i dont understand

it just has no ES regen cause of the flask thing (eternal youth passive) but he says get olroths flask to help but it really doesnt

it uses coc comet when i boss so i take off ash and thunder

heralds

no regen cause of eternal youth passive

its also not like im trying to face tank him im dodging attacks etc

[brittle anvil]

your comet deals 5k damage while your storm wave deals 80k damage per hit

[quaint heart]

and the only passives im missing on the tree are all offensive

[quaint heart]

well im following this build and i just dont get it

its nuke storm wave from mobalytics

[brittle anvil]

yeah idk how you are gonna recover ES with enernal youth and olroth

[pearl sluice]

why do none of the bleed builds I see have them actually taking any bleed nodes on the tree? Every build I am seeing on POB just has the ailment nodes being taken and then everyone stacking crit.

[dawn spire]

Because bleed magnitude is based on the damage of the hit that inflicted the bleed. Crits inflict bigger bleeds

[dawn spire]

Idk how much fire damage Xesht does, but with 69% fire res you're taking 24% more fire damage than if you had 75% fire res

[pearl sluice]

Is that in general for bleed magnitude or a blood mage thing? Trying to figure out if I make a bleed build what would be the best way to go about it to make sure everything I do inflicts bleed

[dawn spire]

that's in general. Hold alt and click on underlined keywords (like "Bleed") to read more about how they work

[smoky basin]

How come you don't see many Molten Blast builds recently? Did it get nerfed?

[dire cave]

because its not as potent as other skills I'd assume

also attack time is quite long

[uncut umbra]

What are some interesting armour breaking tech you guys use? I'm trying to move away from warbringer QoL for scavanged plating. Armour breaker on mace works for bosses ok but does not feel fluid enough for mapping.

[gleaming kite]

rapid assault w/ splinter is pretty bomb. paired with exploit weakness on blood hunt bossing feels good

it is hard to compete with anvil's weight tho

[uncut umbra]

oh I'm very very aware how anvil's weight is op when it comes to armour breaking. I'm a thorns enthusiast and I'm trying to get a bit higher dps and flow on mapping going. Warbringer brings all the QoL but if I can move QoL to other things then maybe I can squeeze some more dps from ascendancy

[gleaming kite]

im running thorns warbringer rn also

its busted

[uncut umbra]

For thorns currently bleed + poison seems to be the best and easiest way to clear maps. I'm a bit interested in pathfinder with if bleed concoction is strong enough to get map clearing running. Then I can just use armour breaker for bossing

[gleaming kite]

yeah bleed is busted

i hadn't thought of pathfinder

i was thinking of trying out a thorns gemling next

[uncut umbra]

for extra levels on scavanged plating it could be awesome too

[gleaming kite]

yeah plus being able to use multiple barbs and quill burst support gems

[uncut umbra]

ohh

that I didn't think

[static thicket]

Has anyone tried doing COC stuff with twister? Is it effective at all?

Looks like someone was doing something with it on YouTube but idk if that was before the twister nerfs or not so idk how to judge it.

[serene minnow]

whats the use of weapon specific talent tree points vs just regular points? you get benefit either way i think

[dire cave]

some people prefer to weapon swap switching between clear and single target

or use it as a way to start some build for example flicker strike you weapon swap into a sceptre to get skeletons and then sacrifice those with profane ritual and sacrifice buff to get power charges at start of map or during a boss fight

[serene minnow]

i understand skills on specific weapons, but on the talent tree does it matter if like a block wheel is on weaponset2 instead of just regular points; it wont take effect when you are on weaponset1 (two hand) but it takes effect when its on shield

[dawn spire]

You only get the effect of the passives while that weapon set is equipped. If you swap to a shield on weapon set 2, your block nodes in your set 1 points don't do anything

I like to use weapon swap points to apply curses. I swap to a staff with lots of cast speed and +level of spells. On the tree I spec into curse magnitude, cast speed, curse duration, skill effect duration, etc

[serene minnow]

on that case i understand the weapon swap, but on the tree those curse nodes as (regular points) would be the same no?

its not like you have 123 points + 24 weapon specific points, so they are equal

nvm im dumb i get it now

[static torrent]

They are the same, but it is possible to allocate the 24 separately between weapon sets. You can have one weapon set invested into Curse magnitude to get the most powerful Curse on the enemy first, then swap to as much damage as possible for your main skill(s).

[serene minnow]

you can have your like 10 weapon set 1 points on curses, then on weapon set 2 use those 10 points for something else after casting the curse

[static torrent]

Yes.

[idle goblet]

I did put some increased damage points on weapon set 1 and used their weapon set 2 counterparts for the curses. That made my curses go over 55%....but then i tried blasphemy and died horrably 😭

[dawn spire]

Yeah, spirit gems don't play super well with weapon swapping in my experience

[north pivot]

Does the gambling items fron Finn proc Uniques? So let's say I want Radiant Grief helm, is it best to do with a lvl 16 char?

[idle goblet]

i have the spirit gem that let me restart my ES recharge for 3.6 seconds on the weapon set 2, and that works pretty well

for spirit gem that are not really "passive bonus" but something that you just use yourself, they work wonders

[woven depot]

You could ig, gamble vendors have regular world drop uniques in them

But unless you’re ssf Radiant Grief is like an alch orb on trade

[north pivot]

yeah i'm on SSF. just wanted to make sure my logic was correct in that if Radiant Grief is a Lace Hood lvl 16 min zone item, then its easier to gamble with a lvl 16 char?

so the pool is limited to just that unique helm

[woven depot]

It wouldn’t be entirely limited to it

but it would be included

[north pivot]

can you get uniques that are above your character level?

[dawn spire]

I guess, but if you're relying on spirit gems for defense then you're risking your life for a moment just so you can start your recharge, which is usually when you're already in a dire situation.

[idle goblet]

Well, sort of, but the swap and cast is pretty fast, i never died like that. But its for emergency only, i use it like once every couple maps. But its totally free, apart the skillgem slots

Its the first thing i'll remove if I need a slot btw

It saved my hc ass more than once btw. Now i'm dead and in SC , and its way less usefull

[stiff hinge]

for chaos lich, you think +3 Dark Effigy or +3 ED is more mileage? w/ PoD

[woven depot]

Yesnt, I’m not entirely sure how it works with gamble stock, but you can get items which have a requirement higher level than your character, it’s noticeable especially in the beginning to an act

Whether or not it’s tied to the highest area level of the act or the highest area level you have unlocked in a given act, me no clue

[tropic onyx]

so for stalk and leap is the buff for 8 seconds for all skills used in those 8 seconds, or one skill used in those 8 seconds and needs to be reset? i also need to know this for daevinas

[silent charm]

Will Decimating Strike on Witch Hunter work with Deepest Tower ?

[rotund falcon]

where can i find builds to use for this game?

[stiff hinge]

You can look up the ladder on poe2.ninja and get ideas -- but a lot of people are quite suboptimal so i'd mentally heatmap most of teh top 50 stuff.
and ignore anyone whos dinged 100 because they often meme-ify their build. i did as much on poe1.

[small anvil]

Finn for unique is super rare, it's any base unique. If you're aiming for something specific, best chance is to chance orb the white base item

[viral sage]

im looking at warbringer ssf build in poe ninja..why they put sunder skill on totem?

[shadow zephyr]

So I've been running a shield charge/resonating warbringer and I use leap smash with rally and the endurance recover passives to leap in and out and refill my health bar instantly (and consume the armor break in an AoE so I can cause another armour explosion right after).

I've got tremors and reverbrate on my leap smash right now and I realized there's potential for a super mario bros. build here. >.> I kind of already leap around from pack to pack before hitting resonating shield for half a second to explode them.

Is there a leapsmash/aftershock build out there already if I get bored with beating things to death with my shield?

[vivid warren]

Anyone done a volcanic eruption build yet? I really miss multi strike. Ive done a path of building skill tree for it but I dont know if its any good.

[muted birch]

If you can think of it theres probably a build for it.

[junior mesa]

The only question is how expensive it is to scale that build into oblivion

(as well as how far it scales exactly)

[rough stirrup]

I CANNOT manage to get good boss dps going trinity/heralds/conflux setup

Tried with ritualist, amazon, tactician & gemling

it's all the same shit, instaclear maps 1button, pathetic boss dps

The problem is heralds do basically nothing for bossing

[languid ivy]

does the lightning to chaos conversion from voltaxic rift count for stuff like rings aswell?

[shut star]

I've got a bunch of fire based caster gear. I'm not looking for something to smash the end game with but what class and ascendancy would you all recommend I give a shot at? Initially I was thinking some sort of ember fuselad deadeye ranger? Any Suggestions?

Trying to go a little off meta as well for the record. I've got my two main characters this league. Just looking to have some fun

[heady mantle]

where does most of the dps come from wand, ik +5 and 90% crit is the most important for spark mage does most of the dps come from gain fire , gain cold, gain lightning
or does it come from increased lightning and spell damage
or does it come from cast speed
im so confused

[dawn spire]

What is "stalk and leap"? I can't find it on poe2db

[dawn spire]

It should work, as far as I'm aware.

[dawn spire]

It really depends on what other bonuses your build has.

"Gain as", increased damage, and cast speed are all multiplicative with each other.

So if you have the same amount of each, they're all equally valuable

But if your build has a lot of cast speed and gain as, then a wand with lots of increased damage would suit you best. But that could change if you pick up extra increased damage later on. It's really just a math problem

[dawn spire]

Yes

[dawn spire]

Class and ascendancy don't tell you much about a build in poe. All classes can use all skills and gear. Ascendancies can be as unimpactful as simply putting different spins on a build, or they can grant certain abilities that the build needs to function.

For that reason, I can't really recommend any class/ascendancy unless I know what build you want to do. But without knowing that, I'll say that chronomancer, pathfinder, gemling, titan, and Smith of Kitava can do pretty much any build. Chronomancer and pathfinder are especially fun, imo. Temporal rift is my favorite skill and it's exclusive to chronomancer. Pathfinder has nodes that make her immune to slows and lessen the movement penalty while using skills which feels so good on any build

[queen escarp]

would acolyte work for essence drain build?

[gleaming kite]

i dont see why not

[tropic onyx]

its a huntress node where if u do a melee attack all projectile skills is boosted and if u do a projectile all melee skills are boosted

[dawn spire]

it works for all 8 seconds regardless of how many attacks get the boost

[dawn spire]

It depends on your definition of "work". To me, if an ascendancy class has at least 8 points you can spend that are beneficial to a build, then I say that ascendancy "works".

By my definition, almost all ascendancies work for essence drain/contagion, I'm pretty sure.

Doing a quick check now, I'd say that invoker, deadeye, stormweaver, witchhunter, and amazon are the only five that don't work for a chaos dot build

And even then, Stormweaver works if you can find some way to inflict shocks or chills.

Invoker works if you use a meta gem.

Witchhunter works if you take 20 extra weapon set points, both sorcery ward nodes, and the explodey node

Those witchhunter nodes are all technically usable, but god damn that sounds like a hard combo to make a build out of

deadeye can work if you somehow incorporated frenzy charges into your build

[north heart]

Holy twister feels godsend for campaign lmao. How does twister scale against endgame

[daring veldt]

For the whirlwind slash build, which ascendancy is the best? Gemling, Ritualist or Amazon or Lich? or any other class?

[pearl sluice]

so I am making a bleed build with ritualist not bm, should I be taking the crimson assault node so I can get aggra bleeding?

[last horizon]

Has anyone figured out how to use "Gloamgown" successfully as a Lich?

I wonder if Convalescence is the key or if it's some weird life-leech that gets converted to Energy Shield?

[shadow zephyr]

That seems like a complete waste on a lich since their life ascendancy depends on them having energy shield and slowing down the recharge start is bad for that.

Would be better to just get a rare 700+ ES chest with spirit and resists and take zealots oath or recharge on pot notables, imo

[gloomy gazelle]

Is this chat a good spot to work shop a failing Huntress build?

[broken wing]

So i unlocked My ascendancy and i gone with Acolyte of Chayula . What are my main skills . Also how to get into the breach and how many chaos damage skills are there

[broken wing]

Can i also use occult chaos skills?

[atomic halo]

you can use any skill you like

(at least, any skill granted by a skill gem)

[willow lotus]

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/19xr7j5cuj0ud/Kalizy-4138/Fyirnen any tips on what I should improve or path better here ?

[atomic halo]

does the spell phys dmg on focus even work?

[willow lotus]

looks to

[foggy bloom]

how can I tell the actual size of war banner aura?
According to the description, it's 4.5 meters base, but how much is that and how can I increase it?

[silent glade]

when you place the banner it displays a visual indicator of its AoE. percentage modifiers to area of effect can make it larger (e.g. from passives or support gems)

[foggy bloom]

thanks a lot!

[foggy bloom]

which one is more relevant for galvanic shards? lightning damage, physical damage, attack damage, or projectile damage?

[fallen zodiac]

does anyone have a huntress amazon ls build that can tank t4 boss?

[atomic halo]

depends on how much convert you have

attack damage will apply to damage from all parts of the skill

lightning damage will apply to the 60% converted from the projectile and all of the beam

physical damage will apply to 40% of the unconverted from the projectile and none of th ebeam

[foggy bloom]

60% light convert to projectile and 100% light convert to chain effect

[atomic halo]

yeah i know, but you may have other sources of conversion

[foggy bloom]

oh, so physical only affects the final damage and not the damage before conversion?

[atomic halo]

correct

and projectile damage i think applies to both, the beam looks like a projectile as well but im not sure

and note

that for a given instance of damage to which two of these kinds of modifiers may apply, they will apply the same

so for the beam, 100% inc attack damage = 100% inc lightning damage

no difference

[foggy bloom]

yeah I checked Poe2db and beam is a projectile

[foggy bloom]

so attack damage and projectile damage do the same for galvanic shards?
however, I think herald of thunder isn't a projectile, so I guess attack damage is the best overall?

[atomic halo]

yes, and yes

[small anvil]

I prefer eva/es builds, but that would require reworking some core parts to your build. Mainly the helm/focus/chest pieces. Removing the spell damage stuff, going to other crit or physical damage. Personal preference for defensive layers

[odd charm]

Is there a way to use lightning spear with chaos inoc? When I try it says I don’t have life to use it

[static torrent]

It's because you have an item that converts some of the Cost to Life, likely Tangletongue.

[shut star]

I'd say they tell you a whole bunch about a build when gear and gems are essentially almost already decided by me like I said. I've gotten very lucky with fire gear specifically caster based gear

I appreciate it though. But I did ask very generally because I have a good grasp of the gear choices but wanted a suggestion for what will essentially be a throw away character after I get them to end game and try a few pinnacles for fun

I just feel like not using this fire gear would be a waste.

I play Caster base classes far too often. So not using sorceress or witch seemed fun. Sorry if I wasn't super clear on the fact I just kind of wanted an off meta suggestion for the class ascendancy combo to just try to make work with fire.

That's on me

[vagrant oyster]

anyone know if energy refund for trigger skills can happen multiple times in one use?

like im using this staff which gurentees i get half the energy refunded but if thats the case does it make energy retention useless?

[idle goblet]

Never tried, but yep, i'd bet it makes energy retention useless

[vagrant oyster]

i mean id imagine it would since theres no shot u can refund 50% and then another 35% on top of it

but that also means energize tree and energy retention work slightly worse together than youd think

[small anvil]

Incinerate pathfinder is kinda fun. 1 button mapping so depends on what you consider fun

I tried to follow an ember fusi build but don't have all the right parts to make it work