2┃build-planning

[mint summit]

Ambrosia is socketable but doesnt seem to use flask charges on either using the skill or the shockwaves 🤔 more confused than when I started

[true nimbus]

Can someone give me a few general archtypes of builds for warrior? I don't want to look up builds directly, but Warrior skills and ascendancies seem all over the place with no clear themes to make a build around.

[mint summit]

themes: bonk, totem, bonk, fire, bonk, physical damage, bonk, armour break, bonk, life stacking, bonk, stun buildup

also I assume you mean using maces, but you could just do a different thing instead

[mint summit]

ok what the shit: Ambrosia and Potential both say "consume on use," but Ambrosia seems to do nothing, and Potential consumes a power charge every time you make an attack with the Charged Staff buff active

janky

[crude pine]

On normal rare gloves, you can roll 1-71 flat added lightning damage, so the absolute minimum to be better is 160 int. But you’re also giving up the other 5 affixes you would get on rare gloves so you have to decide how much those lost affixes are worth

I would also add the other two flat mods (let’s say phys and fire) to that, which brings the total added flat damage up to around 100. That means you need 400 int minimum, and that’s just to keep up with rare prefixes, not suffixes

In general howa is rarely good anymore, it got triple tapped with nerfs

[gray patrol]

Howa is very usable as a dps stopgap imo, it’s just not bis

[dire cave]

if flat added rounds up to 100 damage just 100 int is enough to outscale that

since its 1-10 flat lightning per 10 int

also adding in the +15% more max lightning notable helps

[crude pine]

it's per 20 int after the nerfs

[dire cave]

you're right

still the added 2% increased lightning damage per 10 int and 15% more max lightning help greatly tho

especially on lightning spear

also was it needed to nerf it that much

couldnt they have just sat on 15 int instead of 20?

[crude pine]

GGG has a long history of triple tapping things that are overtuned, they go from meta defining to barely viable. Just how it is

Probably what they are trying to avoid is missing on nerfs and it still being meta strong, and then the meta is stale between two patches, which would feel bad

[dire cave]

fair point

and I would normaly totaly agree with that except some skills are still meta same as release

so they are missing some nerfs or patches

[crude pine]

are there? the only untouched strong thing I can think of is galvanic shards/shockburst rounds. there's probably more but that's the only one that comes to mind rn

[static plinth]

I havent seen a whiff of ice strike this patch

[gray patrol]

People are still using it and lightning arrow pretty well

[dire cave]

well it is 40% ish of monk players

did warrior totem get more used this patch compared to last patch or no?

[gray patrol]

I’ve heard people say they use totems but I haven’t seen a single build

[dire cave]

probs not as primary skill

[static plinth]

Ive seen less tbh

Shockwave Totem was around, havent seen it this patch

[dire cave]

but I think its still mainly used as secondary

[static plinth]

Which is a shame since we have Soul Mantle now

[dire cave]

48% of smiths use warrior totem

idk for what purpose

but its there

[crude pine]

LA will probably always be viable due to the excellent range/coverage, but the dual herald nerf and lightning rod nerf moved it out of the clear skill meta. LA usage is probably more reflective of poor scaling/coverage of other bow abilities than the strength of LA at this point

[dire cave]

imo bow also lacks fun skills

[gray patrol]

I can agree with that. They’d have to literally bury that skill to make it unusable

It’s really just LA/LR or Spiral volley + snipe

[dire cave]

snipe and frost volley are the only ones I can think of the top of my hat that feel fun to play with

again opinion

[gray patrol]

How fun spiral volley is is a direct relationship to how easy frenzies are to get imo

[dire cave]

can say its similar to lightning spear but its far easier to get frenzy on lightning spear imo

also the inate chain does help make it feel a lot better

[gray patrol]

And lightning spear only uses one charge as opposed to spiral using all of them at once

So you don’t need full charge generation uptime

[dire cave]

flicker also has the same problem spiral has

[gray patrol]

Yeah if you run out, you kinda get screwed

[dire cave]

no power charges = no flicker

[gray patrol]

It was fun af with combat frenzy last patch

But they re-nerfed it

[dire cave]

combat frenzy is once evey 4 seconds

almost as if they are specificly trying to kill flicker related builds

[gray patrol]

Endurance charges from armor break + resonance gives good frenzy generation but it’s too rng for my taste

[dire cave]

that does not sounds like it would run well on bow

[gray patrol]

It takes a couple shots of spiral volley to break the first armor but it does very well after that

[dire cave]

how much armour break does gas arrow do?

[gray patrol]

I have no idea

You do have to use the armor break supports

[dire cave]

I know gas grenades did a lot back in 0.1

not sure how it works now

[dusky wadi]

does anyone have a non minion infernalist build?

[dire cave]

most non minion infernalist scale demon flame for demon form

[dry socket]

How can I proc shock easily on an enemy as Mercenary??

[midnight obsidian]

use any skill that generates shocked ground

[dire cave]

or volt grenades

unless you are already using galvanic shards

[dry socket]

Volt grenades didnt work that good I will try the shards

[trail tundra]

anyone have an opinion on which ascendency is best for a HC bonestorm witch build? i was considering lich but im not entirely convinced the not losing life while having ES is actually doing much besides protection from bleed and poison. bloodmage i feel like is dangerous against bosses since you can only get remnants every 2 secs off crit. invoker might be good for just the dmg boost. any thoughts?

[rustic glade]

I'm playing on controller and set blink only on the second weapon set, but I can't seem to get it to work properly. I just dodge, unless I manually switch to my other weapon set. Any tips?

[sweet wadi]

how can I add a gem in Lich's ascendancy socket Crystaline Phylactrecy in PoB, when I spec into it, PoB does not add a socket

[dawn spire]

Crit mana stacking low life infernalist with MoM + EB is on my radar. Archmage and/or impending doom might be solid depending on how much mana you can stack.

You can basically run any skill you want as long as it can crit. With all three reservation nodes on infernalist you can be at low life 100% of the time and benefit from Pain Attunement's more crit damage

And also get a ton of mana, es (which is then turned into mana, and spirit

It might be very gear dependent, though. Getting good life, mana, and ES is pretty key

[dusky wadi]

literally unrelated to this my friend gives me a fucking unique with pain attunement

lol

[dawn spire]

Crown of thorns? Get rid of it

[dusky wadi]

why?

[dawn spire]

Sell it for 1k gold

It's terrible

Read what pain attunement does

[dusky wadi]

yeah but isnt that good for low life??

[dawn spire]

What level are you?

[dusky wadi]

not high enough for that, but im saving it

i never said im using it now

[dawn spire]

Lemme check exactly what that piece of garbage gives you

[dusky wadi]

increase crit damage for low life, reduce it for full life

[dusky wadi]

like you just said pain attunement is good

[dawn spire]

Yeah, and it makes you lose 5 life when you use a skill

Pain attunement is good when you can get to low life reliably

[dusky wadi]

5 life

[dawn spire]

Being at low life with just crown of eyes to protect you is a death sentence.

And even if you could be constantly at low life, that helmet is absolutely terrible

[dusky wadi]

doesnt sound like alot later on

[dawn spire]

By the time you're level 80+ and going low life, that helmet is worse than a white item

[dusky wadi]

then why did you mention pain attunement?

[dawn spire]

Because the node on the tree doesn't cost your your helmet slot

[dusky wadi]

oh thats a node?

[dawn spire]

Yes, it's a keystone

In the northwest

[dusky wadi]

oh i wasnt aware it was a node

[dawn spire]

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, my b, that's important info

[dusky wadi]

so i saw you shitting on pain attunement so i was like "werent you just prasing it??"

[dawn spire]

Also if you take mind over matter, that 5 life lost from crown of thorns bypasses your mana and goes to life

Which might not be terrible, but still

It also has no resistances

[dusky wadi]

how do you stay at low life?

[dawn spire]

Infernalist has three nodes that each reserve 25% of your life in exchange for a benefit

So you can't go permanently low life until you ascend four times which is pretty far along

[dusky wadi]

ah.

i also need to save exalteds for thats cause im not typically good enough for those final asencsion runs

[dawn spire]

So you'd probably just go a more watered down version of the build until you could make a big swap to low life with MoM+EB (mind over matter and eldritch battery, two other keystones on the tree)

After your fourth ascension

[mint summit]

is this 17??

[dawn spire]

Well you should ideally be managing resources with improvements in mind from square one, but I kinda get what you're saying. The fourth ascension is spooky at first, but it's totally doable with a solid build

[dawn spire]

Are you holding the button down?

[dusky wadi]

also whats a way i can impliment echoing thunder easily?

like whats a skill that procs shock often?

[mint summit]

no definitely just one press, it has a fairly long windup

[dawn spire]

Hold alt and click the shock keyword to read how it works

[mint summit]

(also I gotta figure out my defenses I nearly ate shit as soon as that ended)

[dawn spire]

That was way more than 17 by my count

[dusky wadi]

im saying whats a spell that does good shock?

[mint summit]

ok Im not crazy

[dawn spire]

Anything that does lightning damage. For the campaign I like to run spark with acceleration and arcane tempo and also use orb of storms with conduction and persistence

Orb of storms does the shocking (usually) and spark spews damage and also procs the orb

Throw in flame wall with fortress support for even more oomph

Conduction support gives more shock chance

[dusky wadi]

what should i take in infernalist until i can get all my ascendancy points?

[wheat radish]

Does anyone has a decent build for mercenary to clear T15 Maps? I’ve searched everything but can only find outdated builds

[cinder tangle]

embitter on infused weapon for LS?

running freeze variant

[atomic halo]

it only works for gain as not conversion

[copper summit]

When you reach a ceiling, you start looking at atttack damage builds in poe 2 ninja then u see the majority of them have high int, howa, upper rolled astramentis, 140-180 damage rings etc

the lack of gearing diversity is baffling to reach higher stage. When I reached 100 000 dps lightning spear the upgrades would cost 20-100 divines orb per item lol

[woven depot]

If you choose to play the meta build then be prepared it’s gonna be expensive

[copper summit]

80 atlas boss are doable but 81 and above boss breach ritual and others are so much crazy time sink and costly. To not spend money I went with someone else as double kitavas's blacksmith ritual 82 took 30 minutes lol

[mental hull]

Does allies in your presence from scepters count for yourself?

[atomic halo]

no

you are not your own ally

[tropic onyx]

i guess its a good thing im build crafting myself since all the builds im seeing for lightning archer are all so vastly different in what nodes they take

[steady flint]

Gathering storm creates shocked ground, but it isnt a spell though

[static plinth]

You can do it with just 2 if you sac your belt, which isnt that high stakes of a slot

[uncut trout]

Do you guys use greater iron rune or crit bonus soul core for LS tangletongue?

I only have one crit bonus soul core I wanna be sure before I use it/trade it

[dire cave]

do totems count as allies?

[dire cave]

ball lightning might be best if you are okay with slowing the projectile speed to a snail's pace

[dusky wadi]

how so?

[static plinth]

Coward's Legacy

[vagrant sparrow]

hello, is there an updated (0.2.0g) atlas talent point guide please? struggling to connect the dots from all these differing out of date guides from google

[tropic onyx]

does attack damage effect my skill gems damage if its elemental or no? im just asking because im thinking attack is just plain damage boost unless im wrong

[gaunt ether]

are veil of the night/kaoms heart setups just relying on deleting the screen before getting hit

i dont see how else you could survive

[atomic halo]

it says on the skill

if it's an attack or a spell

[tropic onyx]

oh okay thanks! my lightning arrow is an attack so i guess ill take those nodes

[dawn spire]

When in doubt, hold alt and click on underlined keywords to read more about how they work

[tropic onyx]

okayy thanks! im on my 4th run now and im experimenting different nodes since last 3 runs i did the same path and same supports

[austere reef]

Your skills will be tagged with certain keywords, can be found by hovering the skill and reading the tags just under the name of the skill. For “attack damage” to scale a skill, the skill would have to have the tag “Attack”. So things like melee attacks and bow skills are considered attacks for the most part. Spells would not fall under this umbrella, and instead scale with things like “increased spell damage”.

[tropic onyx]

okayy thank you!

appreciate it

[static plinth]

Temper Weapon is still awful right?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[pearl sluice]

How do I search for chaos bows? Example something like this, on trade site when I put in bow and then type chaos damage or chaos damage to attacks all the things I have tried and nothing comes up but when I search cultist bow it comes up with chaos damage, do I only have to search for specific bows with chaos damage?

[brittle anvil]

chaos can only rolls on those cultist bows

I mean not "roll"

[pearl sluice]

ok ty

[brittle anvil]

btw Cultist Bow > Adherent Bow > Fanatic Bow

[atomic halo]

real

[brittle anvil]

that's your upgrade path

[atomic halo]

oh its the direction

i thought u were saying crude bow was better than everything else

[brittle anvil]

yeah by item level

oh wait is Crude bow chaos?

no it's not

[atomic halo]

its like the lowest base possible

[pearl sluice]

ty ty

Also got another dumb question when something has reduced attack speed on it, is that your attacks being slower? So would you want the lowest roll possible on this?

[brittle anvil]

yep

[pearl sluice]

ok cool ty

theorycraft stuff is so much fun, learning so much

[brittle anvil]

that's the real game

[dusky wadi]

the fact that fire spells have like no ranged attacks till level 31 really bothers me

[midnight obsidian]

you can obtain lower-itemlevel bases that let you have access to generic fire spells earlier

[dusky wadi]

how? ive never seen that

[midnight obsidian]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/List_of_items_granting_inherent_weapon_skills

it's like vd and firebolt (weaker fireball)

[chrome sapphire]

does watch how i do it work on tactician now, heard it was bugged a while ago

[dusky wadi]

is demon form on infernalist good?

[broken scroll]

anyone know of a way to force life recovery stats in pob2? trying to simulate this at certain HP values in POB2 but it doesnt seem supported

[unreal sierra]

increase by hand in custom modifiers in config

[broken scroll]

What would I have to type specifically? I tried but it never worked

[unreal sierra]

if its blue then it works

[broken scroll]

thanks!

[sacred pelican]

can someone link me a good spin to win build either their pob or a creator's?

[maiden prawn]

Hello, anyone know how to use Path of building to get the dps calculation on the Beira's Anguish Dowing charm?

[old shuttle]

Xd

gotta do that shit manually brother

dps is:

HP * (FireDmg+generic dmg) * (EffectiveIgniteMulti) * (DMGasExtra) * NegResist * DespairStacks

may be missing stuff

[pseudo berry]

Anyone tried to build around spire of ire (chaos spear)

[oblique marlin]

with corruption this can be 122%
but how it affect gameplay/builds? no difference between 100% and 122%?

i have 85% version
and on trade you can find 122%
100+ versions will not display any value but in fact they have it
if you step by step increase value on trade you will see less and less items in results

[dawn spire]

Good compared to what? And for what build?

[old shuttle]

This game often works in discrete steps

So in this case a 1.22x corrupt is still 1

Also cause it says “an” it likely wouldn’t improve even at 100%

[karmic geyser]

there is no number specified so it cant be modified anyway

[oblique marlin]

did you read what i told before

check trade you will see modified versions

from 78% till 122%

[karmic geyser]

all I see is 82 to 100

with 100 being "gain a charge"

didnt know that a mods verbage can change like that

[old shuttle]

Wonder if it does double dip

[oblique marlin]

need to test if this one (122% in fact) will give you 2 additional charges at 22% chance

[turbid chasm]

Hello, I'm reviewing my support gems for cold snap, and I'm seeing lots of builds use soul offering but I cannot see anyway for them raise a skelly anyone know how they are using it

Eg https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/anarko919-2086/Chistorra_?i=1&search=class%3DStormweaver%26sort%3Ddps

[karmic geyser]

weapon swap to a rattling scepter

[turbid chasm]

@karmic geyser that's all I can think off but I can't see it on the build... thanks 👍

[oblique marlin]

tested many times, Serpent's Egg amulet description is wrong

• without amulet always +1 charge from pinning enemy, no other modifications to charges from tree, few classes tested
• with uncorrupted amulet always +3 charges on pin, means amulet providing +2
• with corrupted 79% amulet sometimes +2 charges, sometimes +3

how you can explain that?
Combat Frenzy skill 8 level without quality

[dusky wadi]

Like is it worth the ascendancy points

[dawn spire]

the question still stands

[dusky wadi]

And it seems like no, as the spell level increase does not stack with the ones on your wand/staff/focus

[dawn spire]

it depends on the build and what you value

[dusky wadi]

Maybe at max level with some health regen, but not at base level early on

[dawn spire]

if your weapon(s) suck(s), then demon form can be pretty pog. It also comes with a movement speed boost, I think?

[dusky wadi]

doesn’t seem like it

[oblique marlin]

i tested Combat frenzy off, with amulet + unique topaz charm and all works like intended, +2 charges only
this means Serpent's Egg + Combat Frenzy combination is bugged and giving twice more charges than intended

[static plinth]

Only with Mastered Darkness

And even then its a lot more questionable than last patch

[gray patrol]

Could it have possibly changed the chance to gain an additional charge from 100% to 79%?

The description of the uncorrupted would still be wrong

But it would explain what’s going on?

[north pivot]

Anyone know if you still need Chance to Poison, even if using these gloves?

[atomic halo]

yes

they give 20-30% chance for a reason

[north pivot]

oh shit. i'm blind

jesus.

thanks

[sacred pelican]

bro why do I get frozen so much when I take chaos inoculation? I have a freeze charm and without CI, I rarely get frozen but when I take CI suddenly every attack freezes me

[atomic halo]

your ele ailment threshold is base off of your life

with ci your life is 1

as a result ailments will apply extremely easily

[sacred pelican]

any way to supplement ele ailment threshold?

[oblique marlin]

no, as i said, combat frenzy + amulet bugged, twice more charges than intended

[gray patrol]

Yes, that’s what I was saying too. I’m thinking the amulet gives 200% additional charges and you corrupted it to give 178% additional charges

[oblique marlin]

only with frenzy, tested with spirit skill that provides power charges, its normal not 200%

[gray patrol]

Oh now that’s really interesting

[plain cloud]

Hey, what's the best class/ascendancy for a Twister based build currently?

[oak juniper]

"all damage from hits contribute to poison magnitude" means that its not only phys. and chaos damage that determine the poison damage, this gloves include elemental damage as well

[austere reef]

Amazon and ritualist are both great, Amazon for its ability to build crit, and ritualist for its ability to have 3 rings all with high flat dmg rolls

[serene minnow]

shockwave totem with splinter(break armour equal to 15% of phys) along with this node would that improve their armour break?

confusing to know what applies to me, totems are weird

[little crescent]

I want to make an aura/ curse bot, now do I focus on rarity as well for my group? Is it shared for everyone or it doesn’t work because technically I’m not killing anything?

[dawn spire]

There are nodes on the tree that give you "% of es gained as [stun or ailment] threshold". That's what you want

A lot of them are near CI

[dawn spire]

Normally your rarity wouldn't matter because you're not killing. In poe1 there was a pair of gloves that made all kills made by nearby allies get attributed to you, which made your rarity apply to party member kills. I'm not sure if those exist in poe2

[woven depot]

They do

[dawn spire]

Totems inherit your global offensive stats

So it should work

[idle goblet]

I think there are gloves with "enemies killed in your presence count as your kill"

[woven depot]

Gravebind Rope Cuffs

[dawn spire]

Gravebind, that's what they're called. Ty

[little crescent]

They do thank you

[dawn spire]

Another route is to have your carry use something like a unique pair of gloves from poe1 that make it so they can only kill enemies that are frozen, then make sure their build never freezes and never does damage over time. Then the party member with loads of rarity uses a skill with a ton of coverage that also culls, so they get all the kill credit without needing to do any damage

[young heath]

hmmm is there a "best" liche build? Currently ~75 but was wondering if there's a really good build out there? Definitely not clearing/one shotting things like certain streamers with their Huntress. But assuming Lich won't be doing that.

[dawn spire]

Best in what way? There are so many ways to measure how good a build is in poe2

[cloud pebble]

Question about Lich's Soulless Form: does it negate all buffs to Mana Regeneration?

[dawn spire]

No, it works with anything that affects mana regen, it just calculates your base rate differently

[cloud pebble]

ok, so it makes base rate 0, but then the life-based rate is buffed by Mana Regen buffs?

[dawn spire]

No, it doesn't make your base rate 0

Your base rate by default is X% of your max mana per second (I forget the exact number). That node makes it instead based on Y% of your max life

Instead of your base rate being derived from max mana, it's derived from max life

[cloud pebble]

Right, but then buffs to Mana Regeneration (not +(flat) Mana Per Second) will still apply, applying to the life-based rate, as opposed to the standard one

?

[dawn spire]

Correct

You still have a base mana regen rate and anything like "%inc mana regen" will still apply

[cloud pebble]

Ok, awesome, thanks so much

I can see the values changing on my stat sheets when I modify gear, but wasn't 100% sure because some stuf is still wonky and may display as one thing but do another you know? cool cool cool

[dawn spire]

You can see which lich builds are the most popular among the highest level players on poeninja

[rugged panther]

hey guys does anyone know if this can be rolled when slotting timeless jewel?

https://poe2db.tw/us/Eternal_Subjugation

https://poedb.tw/us/Eternal_Subjugation i can see icon is different than the one on poe1 db

but cant figure out how to get it

[frosty finch]

hey that seems pretty good right ?

[dusky wadi]

what are good support gems for fireball?

[dawn spire]

What are you using it for?

[dusky wadi]

damage, its my main damage rn in a crit build , im using inevitable crit rn

[dawn spire]

Single target? Aoe? Comboing with something else? Ignite?

[dusky wadi]

i guess just yes? i dunno im just using it for anything right now as i dont have any other options

[vagrant elm]

Lightning build help. If I use against the darkness that would allocates 20% extra damage as cold is that enough to constantly generate charges. I would like to run charged infusion and charged staff. Any help is appreciated

[dawn spire]

Then inevitable crit seems like a bad call. If you're using it regularly then that support is not going to get much value

[dusky wadi]

i mean it brings my crit up like 8%

[dawn spire]

After how long?

[dusky wadi]

like a second or 2, but im pretty sure it only goes back down if i crit

[dawn spire]

Yeah, but you're a crit build, that should be happening pretty often

Do you have access to flameblast yet?

[dusky wadi]

no

[dawn spire]

Ah. Flameblast is a great skill for inevitable crit imo

If you're just spamming fireball to kill everything, I'd probably link it to arcane tempo and arcane surge. Those are like the go-to one-button spell spam supports

[dusky wadi]

arcane surge doesnt work with infernal flame does it?

[dawn spire]

It won't help your ignite at all, but it sounds like that isn't your priority

[dusky wadi]

or well

[dawn spire]

Oh, you're using infernal flame?

[dusky wadi]

yeah no it wouldnt

yes

[dawn spire]

I see

Then here's what I'd do @dusky wadi :
Run two fireballs. Hell, maybe three.

One for clear:
Fireball + scattershot + fiery death

One for single target:
Fireball + concentrated effect + arcane tempo

One for extra oomph every few seconds:
Fireball + inevitable crit + unleash

[dusky wadi]

do i just rely on crit chance boost from passives?

[dawn spire]

That's all you can do

Crit supports kinda suck until t3

Also fireball just kinda sucks for crit

It only has a 7% base crit

So until you can get to a high enough level where you can get a ton of crit chance passives, you're just kinda SOL

Maybe if you roll crit chance on your weapon and helmet it could be smoother

[dusky wadi]

counterpoint, wildshards instead of fiery death

[dawn spire]

But with a base crit of 7% that's not gonna feel good in the campaign.

[dusky wadi]

eyebleed time

[dawn spire]

It would be instead of scattershot

Scattershot adds 2 projectiles that already have a penalty

Wildshards would have a chance to make it +10 projectiles but they'd all be at a penalty

With scattershot it's effectively 1.56x more damage overall, assuming everything hits an enemy.

With scattershot + wildshards, it's effectively 1.56 (your base dps with all scattershots hitting) + (0.2 x 8 x 0.52). Wildshards is only adding another 0.832 total base damage per second for a total of about 2.5. And those projectiles go in all directions so you're going to get barely any of that value back out.

However,if you replace scattershot, you instead go from 1 base damage per second to 2.6. That's more than scattershot + wildshards already, PLUS you get another support

@dusky wadi

[dusky wadi]

i mean scattershot + wildshards is pretty fun, im using it rn

[dawn spire]

Well you can't theorycraft fun I suppose

[dusky wadi]

i mean im doing unleash with scatter shot and wildshards and its just funny

[dawn spire]

I would wager that wildshards is the fun part and you'd have even more by using fiery death with it. Explosions are very fun imo

[dusky wadi]

its just that the explosions take forever

[dawn spire]

Do they?

I thought they were instant

[dusky wadi]

no it does the same thing as the "corpse expolsion" effect from mobs

what gear can you get crit chance on?

[dawn spire]

Helmet for sure, and I think arcane weapons

Maybe amulet and rings? You can check on poe2db

[dusky wadi]

does critical hit chance apply for spells or does it specifically have to be SPELL critical hit chance?

[atomic halo]

depends on source

local no global yes

[dusky wadi]

what does that mean?

[atomic halo]

so basically yes for eveything except the mod on a martial weapon

if it's something like "#% increased Critical Hit Chance" on a jewel or on the tree or on helm etc. it will work for spells

oh wait local inc crit doesnt even exist anymore

so that specific mod should always work for spells

[dusky wadi]

ah okay, cause im doing a crit fire witch build

[sonic basin]

hey so i am trying to get a cast on minion death working with SRS and I am not sure why they spells i have slotted in arent working is CoM bugged or not working?

[toxic storm]

does spell physical damage work with crown of eyes or just spell damage

[atomic halo]

pob says no

[crude pine]

expiration doesn't count, they have to actually die from running out of health

[crude pine]

it's worth checking, rathpith had weird wording but still worked with crown of eyes (or at least the spell damage portion of it did, not the crit)

but probably not

[static plinth]

Cast on Minion Death only works on Persistent minions, which SRS are not

[midnight obsidian]

instability blowing them up counts according to wiki but I haven't played it since .10

[daring veldt]

Hey! is anyone doing the ritualist whirlwind build? Also is the build better as lightning or frost or fire?

[willow lotus]

which sorceress build should i pick ? i'm currently using contagion and essence drain as my main dps abilities

[pearl sluice]

can I scale poison damage with chaos damage?

[dusky wadi]

other than deceleration how do you make ball lightning slower?

[hoary bolt]

how tf do you build gemling defenses

doesnt get sorcery ward, and tree starting spot is sort of disadvantageous for ev/es

[dire cave]

if I get 75% of damage converted to fire and a skill has 80% damage converted to lightning do I just do less damage then with avatar of fire?

[crude pine]

yes

[dire cave]

rip

expected as much tho

[crude pine]

if you are stacking str, you can just use life. otherwise it is pretty much mandatory to path right to get access to ev/es nodes

in theory if you are an int stacker, you could also use the partial mind over matter unique chestplate, Cloak of Defiance

and then use a bunch of jewels with % damage taken from mana before life

[dire cave]

any way I can convert to fire outside of avatar of fire, timeless jewel or gem conversion?

[crude pine]

the old gemling int stack lightning rod build from 0.1 used mana stacking for max hit, so should be functionally similar

[crude pine]

Only gem conversion would be useful, that applies before the tree

Actually now that I think about it, since the conversion effects "apply simultaneously" then getting 25% damage to fire in global modifiers should happen at the same time as avatar of fire, so that could in theory be useful. But it really depends on how "Deal no Non-Fire Damage" is coded

But I don't think there are any "25% damage convert to fire" in global modifiers in the game anyway

[dire cave]

trying to get as close to 100% fire conversion as possible

on skills that already have convert to another element

[crude pine]

can't do this unfortunately

[crude pine]

actually wait sorry, it's skills and then tree, so it should be the same damage?

[dire cave]

example

[crude pine]

Since the converted lightning still counts as "damage"

[dire cave]

freezing salvo has 80% phys converted to cold

avatar of fire converts 75% of that and phys damage to fire

[crude pine]

That does seem like it should work

[dire cave]

still leaves me with some damage loss

[crude pine]

hmm

[dire cave]

other than 15% phys to fire timeless jewel and avatar of fire 75% of damage converted to fire

think I'd still miss out on 10-15%

[crude pine]

like in tooltip?

[dire cave]

nah just doing math in my head

[crude pine]

this timeless jewel doesn't exist in the game btw

data mine only

[dire cave]

poedb says it does

ah ok

so the timeless is a no go then

[crude pine]

poedb has a lot of data mine items that don't exist in the game

[dire cave]

still I'd miss out on 25% then

[crude pine]

only kalguuran timeless jewels exist, which are implicit attribute keystone modifiers

[dire cave]

unless phys to fire and phys to cold are seperated

[crude pine]

yep, that's avatar of fire

Note that conversion is a base modifier, so you do get to just scale % increased fire as opposed to other multi-elemental builds which don't get to do that

That's why it has a downside

[dire cave]

I get that but you can 100% convert to any other element including chaos but not fire

[crude pine]

you can only 100% convert a specific element to another specific element, or yes original sin but it's very expensive (and only works for elemental damage, not phys)

avatar of fire is every type of damage to fire, which is a much wider scope

[dire cave]

cant even 100% fire convert without skill gem conversion is sad

[crude pine]

yeah, hopefully they add one. it's the one conversion they forgot to add

or maybe they felt that Avatar of Fire was good enough

[dire cave]

had hoped I could play a fire based salvo build but geus not unless I dont mind losing damage

[old shuttle]

what annoint do people runon Aziz typically btw

[acoustic grail]

guys if I add infusion to weapon and then slot it with the gem that gives physical damage will that affect my dmg?

so my question is does the physical gem add before the infusion conversion or after that

[brittle anvil]

which infusion? charge infusion or fire/cold/lightning infusion? and which physical gem?

[acoustic grail]

wait there is charge infusion?

I know only plague fire cold and lightning

[brittle anvil]

that's a spirit gem tho

but which phys gem?

idk any phys increase support but Brutality, and Brutality makes your skill deals no elemental damage

[dire cave]

does avatar of fire affect totems?

[hybrid ocean]

Does infuse weapon use the damage of the attack or of the weapon?

I mean, it seems relatively safe to assume it's the weapon

[dire cave]

can you gain glory via minions/companions?

[brittle anvil]

weapon, and "adds x damage" as well

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, I suppose it would've been more precise to ask whether it was it's own attack

Thanks

[atomic halo]

yes

[atomic halo]

no

[rapid estuary]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/6695 can someone help me with build

[frosty finch]

16k armour, still feeling like i reduce nothing, should I go evasion of ES ?

[oak juniper]

Armor+Energy shield would be most effective

Armor gets less effective the bigger the hit is, that makes big hitpool still necessary.

[dire cave]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gXH3ObThMYgNW51KBM9XZwFWrS6O0l0UJGLwGnjKNTo/edit?gid=1087754013#gid=1087754013

might help

[pearl sluice]

how do I search for those on trade? Like how do I find chaos damage on bows, when I go and add chaos damage on the right nothing comes up and the bow in the left pic will not show up if I put it as enchant

[dire cave]

search base type

[pearl sluice]

you mean like the actual weapon name in top left?

[dire cave]

in your case search for a cultist bow

they have base chaos dmg

[pearl sluice]

yeah the issue with that is then I miss out on bows like this that have chaos damage on them

[woven depot]

that’s from vaaling

[pearl sluice]

so like top regular bow with chaos enchant vs top damage cultist bow, its a pretty big difference

[pearl sluice]

Yeah I get that, but if I wanted like any other weapon its not an issue finding it if its physical damage

[woven depot]

Cultist bow is kinda trash as a base

[pearl sluice]

like I can do crit and all the other stuff, but for chaos its not an option

[woven depot]

so I guess it depends on what purpose you are looking for chaos bows for

[pearl sluice]

for sure

[woven depot]

You’d have to go into stat filter, enchantment, chaos damage

[pearl sluice]

yeah I did but then cultist bows were not showing up

for some reason

[woven depot]

Yea because it’s looking for the Vaal’d ones

[pearl sluice]

yeah prob

was just curious if there a way to add it to the top column, will figure something out

[woven depot]

Maybe as a count

[frosty finch]

Why do i feel like i'll buy a grand regalia again

[oak juniper]

I think a rare chest with Armour/ES can get insane stats aswell.

I am pathfinder, I recently got my hands on a chest with 3k evasion.

[bright crown]

hello guys im 95 level LS deadeye. I was following fubguns build but I feel like its outdated and I have total 100 divine rn can you guys send me any build that I can follow. I dont like using rhoa

[dawn spire]

Maxroll and/or mobalytics are probably the build collections I'd recommend. Or YouTube guides. Idk of any YouTube guides for LS deadeye off the top of my head though.

[dawn spire]

16k armour reduces physical hits of 1.6k by half

[bright crown]

I looked that up maxroll have fubguns and there is people in poe2ninja but since im new at the game I cant understand which one is better should I look max damage in poe2ninja or something else.

[dawn spire]

Do not go by damage in poeninja. It's highly unreliable

If the only issue is that you don't like using rhoa, why not just swap it out with another spirit gem?

You don't need a whole new build because you don't like rhoa

[bright crown]

I was using fubgun build like that. but I feel like my damage is not enough anymore for party play

and since he is not playing the game I tought there would be better builds

[dawn spire]

Is it a problem with the build or with your gear?

[bright crown]

i dont think its problem with my gear tbh I have headhunter sacred flame etc and my ring looks like this

[dawn spire]

Is headhunter the recommended belt for the build? I wasn't sure how good HH was in poe2

Do you have a well-rolled Tangle tongue?

[bright crown]

and I have questions like should I go for 18 level skill sacred flame so I can have less int and more dex. or 19 level skill sacred flame is better

[bright crown]

in fubgun build he using headhunter

[bright crown]

I can buy better one

tbh I dont know the game much and I dont understand the mechanics in build. I just want a guide that I can follow so I can do maps much faster sometimes I cant oneshot rares

[dawn spire]

If your problem is that "sometimes you can't oneshot rares" then you're beyond the scope of help I can provide lol

[bright crown]

I just sold headhunter and bought this

[dawn spire]

Your next step is to learn the game's mechanics enough so that you can analyze poeninja builds and see what you can borrow to make your own build better

[dawn spire]

That should massively help, yeah

[bright crown]

head hunter gives nice stats but that random tp's are so boring

[bright crown]

🥲 I just wanna copy a build and smashhhh

[dawn spire]

Well as long as you copy them correctly, poeninja has lots of builds for the taking. The only issue is that you won't know how good they are until you try them

[bright crown]

wish there was a deadeye LS player I can watch...

[dawn spire]

I guess I'd check twitch and YouTube then

[frosty finch]

Its so puny

[oblique marlin]

anyone know definition of near?

[steep bolt]

Its when you are inside the orb, which has a base radius of 2.8m.

[dire cave]

are legionstrider boots, quarterstaves and shield the only sources of block chance?

when it comes to flat block chance anyways

[bright crown]

trying to find one

[dawn spire]

Rearguard quiver as well. Probably some more

[dire cave]

looking for something with innate block chance that is not an offhand or weapon

other than boots I havent found one

[tulip zenith]

Guys should I go Incinerate Pathfinder or Lich?

[pearl sluice]

Does original sin ring also convert elemental damage from heralds into chaos damage?

[karmic geyser]

yes

[ember pike]

Does anyone know how to calculate hit chance with this node on PoB? I've selected it on the tree & set distance to enemy to 100 units , but the hit chance value doesn't update

[static plinth]

Its red, it wont calc

[ember pike]

ahh, unfortunate

[static plinth]

And im not sure how to estimate it tbh

[ember pike]

Is the reduction a flat -30% do you know? i.e. going from 90% max penalty -> 60%

[pearl sluice]

Ty, trying to figure out how to scale the chaos damage. Do i just keep adding more chaos damage to everything or should i be full sending elemental damage and if it is elemental is it better to pick one and scale it or try for multiple elemental damage types

[karmic geyser]

conversion happens before any buffs to damage type

so if you are converting to chaos you need to buff chaos damage

[pearl sluice]

Well like if i took more passives for lightning damage would that scale the chaos damage on my passive tree?

[karmic geyser]

no

thats what i mean

conversion happens before damage buffs

if you convert 100% of your damage to chaos then if you are increasing lighning damage it will do nothing

because you do no lightning damage

[pearl sluice]

What about with voltaxic bow?

[oak juniper]

If it would be that easy pob should be able to calculate that. So i guess it must be more complicated.

[pearl sluice]

Ok so then it’s only scaling the chaos and the elemental do not matter hmmm

[karmic geyser]

pretty much yeah

you still can shock, but with chaos damage

[pearl sluice]

Yeah

So gotta figure a way to scale that

[karmic geyser]

chaos damage nodes are on the top side of the tree

[ember pike]

That was my assumption/worry as well =/ alright, thank you!

[pearl sluice]

Yeah i took them all

[karmic geyser]

what ascendancy are you

[pearl sluice]

Chonk

[oak juniper]

You could Use precision support on one of your buffs for some flat accuracy rating.

[ember pike]

yeah I have it already, was just seeing if I had any easy options for higher chance to hit at max distance penalty since LS hits targets off screen constantly

And I dunno how effective this node is exactly

[copper summit]

I am penniless and my ice mage is a turd, any suggestions? https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/17icjdc7rf237/Iamsosingle-1560/GutsHunts

[sacred vault]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/d83b704b Can anyone give me some advice on improving this build?

It's a SSF Mercenary build using only Armour-Piercing Rounds. I can almost do t15 maps but lacking survivability atm which is more of a gear issue, but I'm thinking the passive tree could also be improved. I just don't know how, I had to make this build myself because I haven't seen anything like this anywhere else. Any advice, especially with the passive tree, would be greatly appreciated!

[mint summit]

I recommend Fork over Chain for mapping with apr. because you have the ward and consistent uptime on scavenged plating I might recommend going harder into armour and taking some warrior nodes, since armour is actually effective in maps with scavenged plating and dovetails well with ward.

[sacred vault]

Ah Fork did indeed turn out to be really good, I was having a bit of trouble killing rares with Chain. I'll also try to get more armour but I'm just not entirely sure what to respec out of on my tree

[solar harbor]

Does killjoy interact with herald of blood?

[mint summit]

Getting more life on gear is always a big deal for survival, I would unspec backup plan and the 10 nodes you have running toward ranger at the beginning. Keep in mind fresh clip is really good and all the nodes that drop attack speed reduce your reload and reduce the damage boost from fresh clip.

Probably still worth having one or two of the juiciest but probably not lots

[sacred vault]

Backup plan? I don't see a node with that name. But by the 10 nodes I assume you mean the ones going into Heavy Ammunition and Careful aim?

[mint summit]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Backup_Plan

[sacred vault]

Oh I see it now, is it really a bad node considering I'm only using 2 points to get to it?

[willow lotus]

Which class should i go for with sorceress ?

or rather, should chronomancer be used if i'm going with lightning/drain essence ?

[static plinth]

Stormweaver offers nothing for EDC

Well besides ES recoup i guess

Chronomancer also lets you use the very nice Expanse and Hourglass supports on Contagion and Essence Drain respectively

[willow lotus]

EDC?

[static plinth]

Essence Drain Contagion

[fleet cypress]

i got an edc question....

what is better for wand attributes

1. higher spell/chaos % dmg but lvl4 chaos lvl
2. lesser spell/chaos % dmg but lvl5 chaos lvl

[karmic geyser]

what is the difference in spell/chaos %

[fleet cypress]

Gain 28% of Damage as Extra Fire Damage
48% increased Spell Damage
45% increased Chaos Damage
20% reduced Attribute Requirements
+5 to Level of all Chaos Spell Skills
12% increased Critical Spell Damage Bonus

vs.

99% increased Spell Damage
75% increased Chaos Damage
+28 to maximum Mana
+4 to Level of all Chaos Spell Skills
+29 to Intelligence
Gain 84 Life per Enemy Killed

[karmic geyser]

im not sure which would be best. easiest way to check would be PoB

[dawn spire]

Pob is the only way to say for sure

Depends on how much other %inc damage you have on the tree as well

[fleet cypress]

tried it but how can i see the true dmg?

nevermind
there is a dropdown menu for DoT

lvl 5 > % dmg

[cloud pebble]

Can anyone confirm if Movement Speed buffs the speed of Rake-dashing? (Rake+Buckler canceling to zip around)

I can't tell from my little bit of testing I've done

[static plinth]

Is Rising Tempest just 36% more damage if you put it on a skill with the Cold Fire and Lightning tags

Or does the skill its on not count

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure. The way it's worded could be interpreted as you get 12% more damage for each skill used recently with a different elemental type than the one it's supporting. Eg, if you use fireball with rising tempest and cast 5 ice novas in the last 4 seconds, the fireball would deal 60% more damage

[karmic geyser]

assuming the wording is correct it would only be 12% because you are only casting "a" spell
maybe if you cast it twice you get another 12% and so on

[static plinth]

My understanding was you get up to 36%, 12% for each element

Like even if you use 10 cold skills you only get 12% for the Cold part

Otherwise itd be like a 200% more damage support

[dawn spire]

The wording is "for each skill used recently...*

[karmic geyser]

yeah so a singluar cast is one skill

[dawn spire]

It depends entirely on what "of a different elemental type" means. Does it mean
A. For each skill used recently of a unique elemental type
B. For each unique elemental tag among the skills used recently
C. For each skill used recently with a different elemental type than the supported skill

[verbal reef]

https://youtu.be/rRqUqilcigc?si=C0BMBMHaxAV-FNyZ can I make this build out of witch or only from sorcerrer?

Any ideas? 😅

[woven depot]

Ye you can

[tardy acorn]

Does anyone have some good resources for support builds/ aura bots. I know snap on YT has a few guides and I’ve tried my hand at making a couple this league. I’m sure they aren’t super optimized though

[static plinth]

Does this cook

Quecholli + Leap Slam + Shocking Leap
Level 3 Enfeeble + Burning Inscription
Elemental Sundering + Valako's Vice(?)

Or is that too much trouble just for 2 ground effects

[round escarp]

It counts if there separate versions. I use it with elemental infusion and get free 24% more dmg

Bc each infusion has its own tab

Does anyone know if indigon works with blood magic?

[static plinth]

Life isnt Mana

[cerulean ermine]

does anyone know how the interaction works when you wear call of the brotherhood AND whisper of the brotherhood rings?

[static plinth]

Your cold becomes lightning, your lightning becomes cold

They arent recursive

[cerulean ermine]

so i cant scale lightning and cold nodes if i wear both?

[atomic halo]

no

your cold becomes lightning, whch scales with lightning but not cold

lightning becomes cold, which scales with cold but not lightning

so your scaling is split regardless

[cerulean ermine]

ok thanks

[cloud pebble]

Does anyone know if Movement Speed buffs the movement of Rake?

[dusky wadi]

question

does beiras anguish stack if i have two charm slots?

[dawn spire]

It would inflict two separate ignites which would not stack their damage unless you had some way to do that. Idk if it's possible in poe2

[hexed dew]

i cant find out where to see this in PoB so asking here, but wouldnt Armour Explosion deal zero damage with Avatar of Fire since it converts 100% phys to fire for the explosion?

[atomic halo]

no, it would deal full damage

[hexed dew]

really? but it shouldnt have any physical damage to convert with avatar of fire, no?

[atomic halo]

so what, then that clause just does nothing

it doesnt suddenly make you deal no damage

you deal 100% fire, so it checks the deal no non fire damage clause, and all is good

[rich bolt]

Voltaxic rift poisonbusrt arrow, currently have a pathfinder in act three that I'm building towards this idea

Does it seem like it's viable is there already a build for it?

[uncut trout]

Nomenclature question

So I know more is a different part of the equation than increased, but is extra also another one? As in extra modifies the equation after increased and more are already taken into account?

[silent glade]

gain/conversion happens before percentage damage modifiers. that is, if you convert (e.g.) physical damage to cold damage, then physical damage modifiers will not apply but cold damage modifiers will

(and if it wasn't clear, gain and conversion work exactly the same way as each other, except conversion removes the old damage and gain does not)

[atomic halo]

its after any mods to flat damage (including local mods on your weapon, global mods like amazon penetrate, rings, quiver, and gloves), and before any inc/more mods

[uncut trout]

So it comes in earlier is what you're saying

Gotcha, thanks guys

So it's actually lower on the totem pole, not higher

[silent glade]

yeah

[atomic halo]

correct

[silent glade]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage

this is a good article if you want to know order of operations stuff

covers everything

[oblique marlin]

find out good abuse with frenzy stacker build

• cast barrage
• see the counter (20 in my case) on the barrage skill
• use skill that benefits from it
• let it fire almost all projectiles and then roll dodge in the end
• counter on Barrage after roll dodge will still be the same (20)
• repeat projectile skill again and again (can be another skill each time)
• until Barrage itself will go on cooldown
• use until it will be fixed
• i was able to repeat it 5 times per barrage cast, 5 x 18-19 repeats of same skill, very fun

[uncut trout]

Thanks!

[winged osprey]

I’m running a str stacking smith rake lvl 89 HC. I see almost everyone running trampletoe (so am I) but like why? It’s basically all garbage stats minus its effect

Is the effect really that much needed /OP as opposed to other boots with more ms and defenses/ attributes?

[ornate anvil]

Anyway to achieve high crit chance with crossbows?

[inland vector]

how much crit chance is needed for deadeye LS + WSF? is 100% too much?

[brittle anvil]

nothing is too much, make sure your double-crit chance is 100 or close if you use tangletounge

[inland vector]

i finally got to reach that and i thought i was overdoing it 🤣

[sonic basin]

hey im trying to make a cast on crit with frostbolt but PoB isnt showing my crit rate on it. any ideas?

i have solved it. i am big dumb. i have controlled destruction on

[pastel saffron]

is there anything that works like grim feast right now that i can use for my sorc

so i can boost up my energy shield

[indigo bluff]

Does Reverberate support take into account attack speed increase/skill speed increase or does it only calculate aftershock chance based on the base cast speed?

I'm thinking of making a unconventional build but I'm not sure if I can reach 100% aftershock chance

[polar wraith]

is pyromantic pact worth it?

[haughty wadi]

why is crescendo support recommended for primal strikes when the 3rd hit would consume the shock

[sacred pelican]

goddamn attributes make me feel like I'm playing jenga with my build, I try to upgrade one item and everything falls apart because of these insane attribute demands

[dusky wadi]

how do buffs and debuffs stack in this game?

[dawn spire]

If they have the same name, they do not stack unless otherwise specified

[pearl sluice]

Can someone explain quick what Reduced Ignite duration means? So would that be less time the enemy is ignited? Am I overthinking it? Why would I want that if it is

[idle goblet]

Those mods can be usefull if you have something happening when the effect expires but i know no effect like that on ingite in poe2

[dawn spire]

I would imagine that a stat like that would only exist as a drawback to balance out a strong upside. What are you seeing that grants reduced ignite duration?

But yeah, you hit the nail on the head. Reduced time ignited and thus reduced total damage per ignite (if it's not being refreshed)

[pearl sluice]

blackflame ring

I am playing a chonk monk and looking at options to convert full ele damage to chaos

[dawn spire]

Yeah it's a drawback to that unique

Uniques often have drawbacks

[pearl sluice]

yeah so I would want a low roll on it thne?

[dawn spire]

Aye

[pearl sluice]

that is what I am mainly confused about the percentage

ok ok makes sense

ty

while I got you here, does anyone know a way to automate firestorm?

[dawn spire]

Put it in any cast on X meta gem

[pearl sluice]

perfect, just wanted to make sure it worked before I started sending gems

ty

[dawn spire]

Also you said you wanted to convert ele to chaos, but blackflame only makes your Ignites do chaos * damage. Why exactly do you want to do ele to chaos conversion?

[pearl sluice]

yeah I have original sin

I am just testing stuff, I have options, the bow, the spear the quiver etc

can always do lighting arrow or lightning spear and turn it into a chaos build

just trying to see if there is any other fun stuff I could do so exploring fire

ls so boring

[dawn spire]

If you use original sin you cannot inflict ignite unless you have a way to make your chaos damage ignite

[pearl sluice]

yes

[dawn spire]

So blackflame would be useless

[pearl sluice]

that is why I am trying to figure out how to make the chaos damage ignite

[dawn spire]

I see

[pearl sluice]

so trying to figure out how I can get a skill that does chaos damage to ignite

[plain cloud]

Does a 2% increase in attack speed on weapon make a lot of difference when using Whirling Slash for movement ? The price difference seems to be quite a lot of Divines

[hoary bolt]

prob not worth the price, but attack speed on weapons is local and therefore essentially a more mult on attack speed

[idle goblet]

Bringer of flame is the only thing i know doing something similar ?

[tropic onyx]

so i was thinking if doing a fireball one click build from scratch on hcssf but idk which ascendancy to pick

[dawn spire]

Yeah I think that's all. So you'd need an infernalist party member to make it work lmao

[idle goblet]

There is a ring that turn the ignite damage into chaos dmg, but i think that happens just AFTER ignite got applied by fire ?

[dawn spire]

Well what other stuff do you want it to do?

[hoary bolt]

ignite always deals fire though

[dawn spire]

Not with blackflame

[hoary bolt]

if you cant deal fire you cant deal ignite

wrong

they TAKE chaos

the ignite still deals fire

[dawn spire]

Ah, true. So it still scales with fire damage

And is mitigated by their chaos res

[hoary bolt]

same reason why you cant do avatar of fire poison with plaguefinger

poison always is always baseline chaos damage

[tropic onyx]

huh havent thought about it, but to be honest fast mapping and be able to do bosses (burst or not is fine to me) but i do want most of the build to be just spam fireball

like i dont wanna tickle bosses and have 5 minute fights but i also dont need instant one tap bosses

[idle goblet]

@dawn spire In the Church of Stormwaver we were talking bout a LW/BL build, I'd actually like a way to generate BL by CoS and/or Energy Invocation and just spam LW instead of using em both. Since i started using LW because i saw you talking bout it as a good AoE. Do you have any idea bout that mabbe ?

I was tempted to summon you in that channel really, but then passed on that 😐

[dawn spire]

I mean, you need to have a ball lightning or a cullable enemy to start the reaction

[dawn spire]

sounds like it's time for me to shill for my mana regen stacking incinerate pathfinder with cast on ignite

you hold down incinerate, but you can cast whatever you want with cast on ignite

[tropic onyx]

never heard of cast on ignite

but maybe?

idk i just really like fireball but im scared it wont be good alone

[dawn spire]

incinerate massively lowers fire resist, cast on ignite automatically triggers spells when you ignite stuff, and incinerate ignites stuff CONSTANTLY

[tropic onyx]

hmm okay! can it be done very early game?

obviously not fireball since its end of act 2 but the premise of it

[dawn spire]

cast on ignite is like a level 12 or 13 spirit gem, so no

[north pivot]

is Giant's Blood usually end game only? (I'm SSF atm) just wondering shield is needed to do red maps?

[dawn spire]

nothing is "needed" but shields are very good

[north pivot]

will Warrior have a hard time without a shield in T15s?

[dawn spire]

depends on how you build it

block is a very strong defensive resource tho

especially for warbringer

[north pivot]

so it's very hard to use Giant's Blood in SSF since you need Str on most pieces as possible?

[tropic onyx]

hmm okayy ill test with it! i just need a ascendancy, i was gonna do infernalist but... chronomancer also looks cool

[dawn spire]

if you're gonna be going incinerate, I highly recommend pathfinder

they have 50% less movement penalty while channleing

well, while using any skill

[north pivot]

Would you recommend Giant's Blood in SSF?

[dawn spire]

I have no idea, I've never tried it

[north pivot]

alright, cheers.

[dawn spire]

I will say

using a low level 2h with +melee gems and going for shockwave totem or something

might be solid

you get high +lvl of gems

without high str req

[north pivot]

ok

[dawn spire]

sorry, osrs is a demanding game at times

[tropic onyx]

ranger again....

[dawn spire]

hard to type

[tropic onyx]

based i love osrs

[dawn spire]

I mean, there are like over a dozen ways to build any skill

incinerate with cast on ignite is just one

and pathfinder is very good for it

[tropic onyx]

yeahh i know its just past 6 characters have been ranger lightning arrow lol

[dawn spire]

could also go deadeye for the extra proj (:

[tropic onyx]

i mean like lightning arrow isnt bad i love it, i just wish it had a more viable single target damage against bosses that it cant lightning rod

im still on the fence abt leaving lightning arrow or sticking to it, because i love elemental builds

[dawn spire]

chronomancer for the cdr might be nice if you go ES and can get infinite convalescence.

Blood mage for crit

Infernalist for low life pain attunement mana stacking

acolyte of chayula for the memes

Stormweaver for fireballs that also chill and shock

Gemling for giga levels and quality

smith for giga def and ssf-friendliness

tons of options

depending on the flavor of fireball you want

[tropic onyx]

whats gemling?

[dawn spire]

merc

[tropic onyx]

hmmm out of all those options i like the idea of a critting aoe fireball but will it be able to map and boss...

[dawn spire]

anything can map and boss if you have the gear

[tropic onyx]

thats the thing, im a fresh ssf with no gear

my goal is basically make a lightning arrow build but for fireball, where u just hold down fireball and clear

[dawn spire]

best ssf starters would probably be smith or gemling, but they might not be too smooth early on. Gemling/merc has a lot of projectile nodes, actually

so that might be good

quality on fireball isn't super good, but it's nice. with the 14% quality from gemling and 20% on fireball, you'd have about 17% chance to fire an additional projectile

with all the nodes on the tree you'll have about 67% chance for 2 extra projectiles with fireball

[tropic onyx]

hmm okayy i was abt to do blood mage before this response haha

[dawn spire]

blood mage is also very solid

as long as you can sustain the life costs

gemling pathing is very annoying

I'd probably do something like

!pob https://pobb.in/Z_unjhihda49

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[dawn spire]

whoops, didn't mean to summon the bot

main issue with fireball is that it only has 7% base crit

which is pretty low for spells in poe2

oh, and a 1.2s base cast time?

damn, incinerate cast on ignite looking even better

[tropic onyx]

dang is fireball that bad ;-;

[dawn spire]

No, it's got very strong upsides to counteract those things

But it just means that making it even more insane via crit is harder

And triggering it with meta gems also becomes more appealing due to the high cast time

Fireball also has bonkers single target with ice wall combo shenanigans

Which also makes chronomancer better because ice wall has a cooldown and chronomancer dgaf about cooldowns

But ice wall would mean you're pressing a second button and you said you're not about that

Unless you used fireball manually and had ice wall in a trigger gem? But that sounds bad since you kinda need to position ice wall in a precise fashion

[tropic onyx]

at this point i feel like ima be buildcrafting more than playing the game lol

[dawn spire]

How you shape your fireball build is basically personal preference.

It basically comes down to how you want to invest your resources (passive points, gear, gems, etc) across single target, clear, smoothness, and tankiness (and probably some other stuff)

And once you decide on what you care about among all those parameters, you can (hypothetically) make a build that does that distribution the best

But there is no "best" distribution

[tropic onyx]

but i guess its also my fault for not wanting to follow builds

[dawn spire]

for me it's also a lot of feelycraft

I plug in some gems or try an ascendancy node and see how it feels

incinerate with the pathfinder node that reduces movement penalty was chef's kiss to me

but there are probably loads of other chef's kiss combos you can do with fireball

[tropic onyx]

yeahh true

i guess at the end of the day its personally how id wanna build

[dawn spire]

I like to think of it this way:

It's subjective what aspects of your build you want to focus on or invest in. But once you decide on those things, there are objectively correct and incorrect ways to build toward those

[tropic onyx]

thats the thing as a new player how do i decide that

without sitting in pob for hours haha

[dawn spire]

the subjective part?

[tropic onyx]

yeah how do i know what i wanna invest in

id like to do a full crit fireball build

but my issue is how do i process that in to a build path

[karmic geyser]

equip fireball skill
get crit nodes on tree and jewels

ez

[dawn spire]

well (un)luckily for you, you're playing hcssf. So two of your parameters are already chosen for you

it's gotta be tanky, and it's gotta be easy to gear

[tropic onyx]

i can do that maybe im thinking of doing energy shield as my main defensive stat and picking up some recoup on the way to burnout

i just suck at using pob

wow got crown of thorns early lol

[dawn spire]

If I were you, I'd pick a main defensive layer (or two), path for that and nothing else, then see what efficient damage nodes are neaby

your build should function on like 70 points or less

anything on top is a bonus

[tropic onyx]

thats a bit hard wdym by layers?

[dawn spire]

evasion, ES, block, mind over matter, max res, etc

recoup as well, maybe

[tropic onyx]

hmm okay ill figure something out

[idle goblet]

yeah, that's why i'd like to generate BL with CoS or CoC. Ofcourse i'd need to start and/or refresh the reaction with some old fashion manually casted spell, but i'd like to limit those. I doubt its possible, but i'd love to be able to sustain it with only CoS and Energy Invocation after the reaction starts...I'm dreaming i guess ?

[dawn spire]

if I were you I'd look into infernalist and igniting WITH ball lightning. cast on ignite is really really good

[idle goblet]

Mmm would that put back in the game even using firewall with BL ?

I'll take a look on that this evening, ty

[dawn spire]

I was using cast on ignite with incinerate and it was proccing my spell too often for my mana to keep up

[idle goblet]

that sounds interesting

how comes tho ? Doesnt it work like CoS ?

never looked into it really, being a stormweaver

[dawn spire]

igniting is way easier than shocking

and incinerate auto-ignites

[idle goblet]

I'd lose thay juicy 60% dmg bonus by the 2 shocks , but i'll check it out

[dawn spire]

well you still have shocked ground against most mobs

and normal shock

[idle goblet]

yup, not with bosses, but i can use curses then

i actually tought about using blasphemy too with LW , but the malus o the magnitude is terrible!

I'll come back bothering you after i tried something with the infernalist idea, ty

[tropic onyx]

what do u recommend for early game pre fireball? I been doing flame wall but does no damage by itself

[dawn spire]

(:

if you don't wanna do rakestomp, I'd recommend contagion + essence drain

as much as I'd love to level with the theme of a build from go, it's just not feasible in poe2 at the moment

in poe1 you have fireball, holy flame totem, magma orb, flame wall, and fire trap all at level 1

in poe2 you have... flame wall

and whatever spell your weapon gives you

My main gripe so far with poe2 is the massive lack of early game options for leveling

rakestomp just wins

but even if that were balanced, your options are basically essence drain/contagion or spark+orb of storms for casters

for fire, you get flame wall into solar orb, which have no synergy together at all

so leveling with fire spells is just ass rn

[tropic onyx]

my friends keep telling me to just play poe1 because it has more build diversity too ;-;

[tropic onyx]

awh i love like rping my character but i guess ill have to rakestomp till end of act 2...

wait will rakestomp even work with the nodes im getting?

im getting all spell damage and spell crit

[static torrent]

I'd say it really depends on your standards for a build. You can get through the campaign with just about anything, but obviously most options don't measure up to the broken ones.

[tropic onyx]

well my option is firebolt and flamewall early is there anyway i can make that work?

[static torrent]

Sure, they do fine damage on their own, and you can later pick up Ember Fusillade and take down bosses decently well. Solar Orb can be used to apply Exposure once you get it, as well. I've played a pure Fire Spell build in 0.1 and 0.2, and while I can't speak on the efficacy of these builds in endgame, they took me through the campaign without too many issues.

But again, it's a matter of standards. If you want something that crushes everything as easily as the top builds, then it may not be suitable for you.

[dawn spire]

for rakestomp you wouldn't get any of those nodes while leveling. You'd get all your attribute pathing nodes for your build and put them all into strength. Then change them to int/dex later when you swap to your actual build

[tropic onyx]

i dont! i just want something that can clear map decently and boss decently, im not really a "power hungry one shot everything person" im more of a fun builds person

[dawn spire]

I made the mistake of trying rakestomp and now I can't do acts 1-2 with anything else

save yourself

[tropic onyx]

for example my shotgun incen shot build was fun for bossing but sucked at clearing maps (i know i can make it better but i spent 5 hours reaching act 2 because my low map clear)

heck its what im playing rn while i decide my build path for my blood mage

[dawn spire]

contagion is very fun for me early on, personally. With a good wand/staff/focus it can lead to situations where you cast it on one thing, kill it, then kite a pack around the map and watch it kill every enemy you run by

contagion + persistence + magnified effect slaps hard

[tropic onyx]

i just realized the two builds im sticking to now is both fire based lol

[viral sage]

what other weapon skill to get tru campaign fast other than rake strat?

[dawn spire]

lightning arrow lightning rod is decent if your bow is decent

How exactly does Chayula darkness work? If I take 100 damage at T=0s and thus reserve 100 darkness, then at T=5s I take another 100 (assuming darkness reservation lasts 10 seconds), does it:
A. Restore 100 darkness at T=10s and then another at T=15s (ie, it tracks each reservation of darkness on its own timer)
or
B. I regain 200 darkness at T=15s assuming no other damage is taken (ie, darkness reservation timer is refreshed whenever darkness is reserved)

[tropic onyx]

omg theres a ashen staff unique, might make a build around it with my full fire crit build

[night wedge]

Does anyone have any idea if Yoke of Suffering stacks from different sources? I.e. if two separate players have it, and they each apply elemental ailments to a target, if it would stack. Wording seems to suggest it would

Because of so, I'm wondering about the implications with necromantic talisman + infernal legion

[tropic onyx]

if i increase the damage of my flamewall does it also increase the buff it gives to spells that go through it?

[chilly swan]

I've been messing around with Volcanic Eruption, trying to get it to scale; Does anyone know if chaining from terrain is supposed to work with it when allocated on the tree? In my testing so far, it doesn't seem to work, but, I'm not sure if I just need more of it, or if I need to scale aoe, or if it's just a bug.

[brazen plinth]

I realize I shouldn’t need to ask this, but. My currency farming build is lightning spear. I heard someone say “infuse weapon” will proc “riding tempest” three times. Is that true?

[mighty junco]

I'm having some confusion with how much chaos res I need. Guide I'm following says that 30-40 is good enough even for pinnacle content. But that seems way too low? How much would you guys say I need?

[idle goblet]

When you say "increase the firewall damage" you mean thru gem lvl, increased fire dmg or whut ?

[tropic onyx]

increased fire damage and gems, for example i have zenith on my fire wall which boosts its damage when i have 90 percent mana (which i always have since my main skill is firebolt)

[dawn spire]

No, any increases to damage only affect its ignite portion. Though %inc fire damage will apply to the projectiles you shoot through it, since it simply adds fire damage to that skill.

But supports that boost damage on flame wall don't affect the projectiles that fly through it, for example

[fierce viper]

Hi all, I wondering how Cast on crit interacts with cooldown.

If I have two sniper's mark inside cast on crit, does that let me double up on the cooldown?

[tropic onyx]

okayy thank you!

[dawn spire]

Idk if skills have separate cooldowns. I'd socket two mark skills and see if using one puts the other on cooldown. If it does, your idea is toast

[dawn spire]

Depends on the content lol. If you're doing mods or bosses that add a ton of chaos damage, you'll probably want more to be safe.

But it depends on your other layers of defense, how well you deal with poison, etc

[fierce viper]

ah, they share cooldowns!

but strangely, it seems to work inside cast on crit just now. I ll keep testing

thanks

[mighty junco]

Running a deadeye on a rhoa, so got 30% reduction bc of tailwind. Hoping to push go citadels and arbiter soon.

[dawn spire]

I don't think projectiles that land on the ground can chain* off of terrain. I think that only works with horizontally-fire projectiles

[dawn spire]

If they're both in one cast on crit setup, they should both get cast at the same time. So I'd check if two enemies end up with a mark on them when it triggers

[shell meteor]

can someone recommend me a good ssf starter build?

[dawn spire]

Artillery Ballista Smith of Kitava
Essence drain/contagion chronomancer (or lich if you're blind to the greatness that is chronomancer)

Alternatively, you can do rake + stomping ground + brutality and take nothing but strength nodes and laugh your way through at least the first three acts. Then you can spec into whatever you want

[shell meteor]

thx

[fierce viper]

it think its working!

heck yeahh

[dawn spire]

Wild. Are you sure you had your marks on different buttons when you tested them separately?

[fierce viper]

yeah, different buttons

[dawn spire]

And each button had a different mark?

[fierce viper]

yup

[dawn spire]

That's kwazy

[fierce viper]

to be sure, ill try again. and ill put 1 on different weapon sets

[dawn spire]

Or use a support gem on one to change its cost or cast time to tell them apart

[fierce viper]

hmm, well on the skillbar it still treats them as the same no matter what

but I swear that Im getting charges more often than every 2 seconds

when its in CoC

[dawn spire]

You might have cdrr?

[fierce viper]

I took off ingenuity

[dawn spire]

I'd try shooting some packs until it procs and see if there are two marks on enemies

[fierce viper]

that might be hard since they'll all die.

Ill just do spear stabs I guess

[dawn spire]

Maybe throw in another spell with a long cast time to make it happen less often

[fierce viper]

if I get two charges, I win

[oak juniper]

Most meta builds in 0.2 don’t consider defense, you either oneshot or die 😉

[mighty junco]

Alright, guess I need a better bow

[cinder tangle]

how do i make an aura/rarity bot

what class

etc

any guides would be helpful

[dawn spire]

I'd check out SnapOW on YouTube, but I'm not sure he has anything for 0.2

[pearl sluice]

I know it’s been nerfed but does anyone know how you can make triple heralds works still? Like I need a pob so I can get an idea about gems etc if anyone has one by chance

[dawn spire]

Which three heralds?

[pearl sluice]

Fire, ice, thunder

[dawn spire]

The main reason people used Herald of thunder + Herald of ice was to get them to chain off each other. They made it so that can't happen anymore. So what's the goal of the triple Herald build you'd be making?

[pearl sluice]

Mainly map clear

Which I can prob just get with lightning but thought it would be fun

[dawn spire]

The heralds scale their damage off their own "weapons" so there isn't really a way to scale multiple heralds aside from attack and elemental damage

And attack damage wouldn't scale Herald of ash

Aside from boosting your overkill damage I guess

[pearl sluice]

Well that is what I’m looking into so I’m converting my elemental damage with chaos right now, I’m using herald of ash and overkilling stuff to ignite, so was trying to figure out how to get lightning to chain in there somehow.

[dawn spire]

Well you'd need to shock stuff to proc Herald of thunder, which is very hard to do if you're converting your damage to chaos

Same for Herald of ice and freeze

[pearl sluice]

Quiver

Chaos quiver can help with it

[dawn spire]

Converting to chaos is maybe the worst thing you could do for a triple Herald build

That quiver doesn't help you shock

It makes your chaos* build electrocute, not shock

It would help with freeze tho

[pearl sluice]

Yes so Im trying for figure out how to add shock to the build for it

I’m trying some of the stuff I used with my ls but not really working

[dawn spire]

Sounds like you want voltaxic rift

[pearl sluice]

Yeah I have it

[dawn spire]

Oh, so you're golden then

Just do lots of damage, inflict shocks/freezes, and you're all set

[pearl sluice]

Ok will keep going

[dawn spire]

Well, hm

[pearl sluice]

Feel like I’m missing something with the gems

[dawn spire]

Idk if voltaxic converts the damage of your heralds

Since they're separate attacks

[pearl sluice]

Original sin should convert all my ele damage from my kit though, unless heralds are not effected by that ele damage I do

[candid nexus]

For cast on critical with trinity, Should I use a low level skill gem ex frostbolt to reduce mana cost

[dawn spire]

Yeah that's the question. I would guess they convert? You could test it by putting envenom support on a Herald (not ash) and seeing if any enemies get poisoned

[pearl sluice]

Yeah good idea will test that tonight

[dawn spire]

Resonance only builds from attack hits, not spells

[candid nexus]

ig snipers mark is only one worth putting in then yes?

[dawn spire]

I have no idea

[candid nexus]

Ok

Big research time

[dawn spire]

"worth" is an incredibly subjective term

It's beneficial, probably

[candid nexus]

I am near max and not losing anything, Just seeing what I can do since I am at this threshold

[dawn spire]

But "worth" would require a cost-benefit analysis and a psych evaluation

[dawn spire]

Have you considered not using cast on crit at all and using the spirit for something else?

[candid nexus]

Thats kinda what im figuring

Maybe triple herald

[tropic onyx]

Do ashen staffs not get any prefix rolls? so can i keep my lvl 6 one the whole time or...

[static torrent]

You will naturally be able to get better affixes on higher item level Staves, and all equipable items can have prefixes and suffixes, so not sure what you mean there.

[dawn spire]

Yes

[dawn spire]

Almost all items follow the rule of:
Normal = no explicit modifiers
Magic = 1-2 explicit modifiers, max 1 prefix and 1 suffix
Rare = 3-6 explicit modifiers, max 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes

A lot of items also have an implicit modifier. All ashen staves have the implicit mod that grants the fire bolt spell

[tropic onyx]

i see because mine has plus 2 all fire spells, plus 20 percent spell damage, plus 8 percent fire damage, plus 15 fire damage and plus 20 percent cast speed, and i cant seem to find a ashen staff thats gonna replace that for awhile

[static torrent]

Considering you listed two separate instances of Fire damage, I'll assume one is Damage as Extra. Anyway, it can be a bit tough to replace caster weapons, but you will later find Staves with +3 or higher (up to +7 iirc) to Fire Spell Skill level, and all the other affixes will naturally have higher tiers as you go on.

[dawn spire]

I have a whole tab of decent caster weapons because I never know when I'm going to lose my best one

[tropic onyx]

yeah one is extra

and understandable! im just halfway through act 2 and havent been able to find any good one i might just make one with crafting

[tidal birch]

Are there any witch ascendancy builds that are on the same power level as chaos dot lich?

[ornate anvil]

Guys snap me out of it

cluster grenade is just bait right?

i am not seeing a way to make it work decently

with the same investment my gas grenades is doing more damage and more consistently

without even investing in the poison nodes

and if i try to instead make it a boss killer with adhere, it deals less damage than high velocity on a higher cooldown

i've also noticed that increasing the amount of grenades shot wont increase the amount of mini grenades

thought that if i shoot two cluster grenades it would be 28 projectiles instead of 14, but its two normal weak grenades that then turn into 14 instead of 2 + 28

not sure if its a bug

[tight fiber]

hey, if i would to follow a build, on mobalytics the attribute nodes are just empy, does it matter what kind of +5 i choose for intelligence, strng or dex?

[mighty junco]

Usually you take w/e you need for your supports and then your main attribute with what's left. That's what I do anyways.

[tight fiber]

how do i know what my main attribute is/

[mighty junco]

You probably got things that scale with one of the attributes in your tree don't you?

Plus generally it's just looking at your character. Buff -> str. nibmle -> dex. magic -> int

[tight fiber]

im pathfinder ranger, all my skills and equip need dex it seems, but i only see builds for pathfinder that require a lot of INT or STRGHT xd

[mighty junco]

what do you consider a lot of?

[north pivot]

Has anyone got an Incinerate Pathfinder PoB pls?

[dawn spire]

Cluster grenade slaps on chronomancer and you get a lucky streak of cooldown bypass and stack like five sets of three cluster grenades

It gives you a fuckin seizure but it murders shit

[dawn spire]

I do, but I'm at work atm

Welcome to the way, the truth, and the life

[north pivot]

ok when you can, cheers.

[dawn spire]

I haven't gotten very far with it in-game yet and there are lots of ways you can go with it

[north pivot]

I dont mind. I'm just doing a fresh SSF run for fun and want to try something different. I'm not going to kill Ubers etc. Just mapping.

[dawn spire]

Well I do, unfortunately, recommend leveling with rakestomp and just taking pure str nodes

[ornate anvil]

maybe thats the only way?

bypassing cd seems quality

idk

for a t13 skill i was hoping something more like hammer of gods instead of this tbh lol

[candid nexus]

Where do I get a 1 of 1 item pc

it failed prefix but is still ok

[dawn spire]

A price check? #price-check📉 and there's a guide for it in #1308715317375270952

[candid nexus]

Well its a allocate one

and I cant find another refernce

[dawn spire]

Grenade chronomancer is super strong imo. I just can't stand grenades. The fuse length, the bouncing, the absurdly noisy visuals. Nty

But the clearing and damage is disgusting imo. Though I do have very low standards

[manic kite]

is ventors gamble only way to get negative rarity

[north pivot]

i just need the pathing etc

[dawn spire]

Well the pathing changes depending on your setup

Like, if I focus on cast on ignite, I go toward some energy and trigger nodes. If I feel like I'm too slow while channeling, I'll go toward the movement penalty nodes in the southeast

But idk how the build will feel so it's up in the air

[north pivot]

the most annoying part of the build is that you cannot even get the skill until way way later.

[static plinth]

So skills have a max quality of 20
+3 (corruption)
+13 (Gemling notable) + 6 from two more smalls
+25 (Morior + fox talisman)
Making for 64/67/70
Meaning with a level 28+ Freezing Salvo, you can get it to fill up to its maximum missiles in 0 seconds, right?

[north pivot]

Does anyone have a list of skills that have great synergy with the Pathfinder's

[static plinth]

Even assuming a minimum of 0.01 seconds it would accumulate all 12 faster than you could fire

[steel glade]

hey guys im following maxroll LS amazon guide, im making the transition to LS, the guide has snipers mark on CoFreeze and he has it on alone, how do i deal with that? should i cut another snipers makr and use it manually?

[dawn spire]

Gemling has +16% quality I think

Three 2% small nodes and a 10% notable

[dawn spire]

Pretty much any channeling skills. Also any skills that you want to use momentum with.

Oh, you already got the gemling small nodes, but made the notable account for 13% for some reason

23% on gem, 16% from gemling, 25% from morior, I count 64%

For -0.64s

[static plinth]

Theyre 3% nodes and there's 3 of them isnt there?

And notable would be 13 because the small in front of it is 3

ah nvm youre right they're 2%

Well its definitely possible, 0 seconds if you take Advanced Thaumaturgy

Too bad i cant test in game

[chilly swan]

Thanks for the help. I think you're right. Do you know if projectiles from Volcanic Explosion would benefit from added flat damage? Like the added flat from Charged Staff?

[dawn spire]

I would assume yes

[candid nexus]

Does lightning spear scale past 23?

In terms of damage

[dawn spire]

Well, lemme walk that back

Volcanic explosion already scales with your damage as far as I'm aware

It does 40% base damage per projectile

So your added damage is already factored in

[silent glade]

confirming that the above is correct

[dawn spire]

I had a mini heart attack when I saw viper typing lmao

[static torrent]

xd

[chilly swan]

That's helpful. The "base" damage per projectile is what's confusing to me.