2┃build-planning

[woven depot]

Honestly unsure how the loot changes impact iir scaling

[mighty drum]

not 0.2.0g but 0.2 base I meant

I heard in some interview they mentioned something similar to lines

You won't need 600%+ iirc, 300%+ iirc should be enough

[steady flint]

Like purely aurabot, no dmg whatsoever?
Titan is likely the best choice no? Hulking form gives 50% increased on small nodes, that equals bigger presence aoe, more magnitude for both aura's and curses aswell as more aoe

[woven depot]

Yea titan could be a cool choice

[steady flint]

Nah, but actually Lich is the best one no?

Enemies explode when killed while affected by curse also works for allies, you can have one more curse, you can give teamates unholy might and you get a jewel socket worth 200%

Or you cold drop one of either, go full bonkers mana stacking and buff the unholy might for teamates

[atomic halo]

"like other dot mechanics" like ailments?

it's not an ailment, so no.

[mighty drum]

yes aurabot/culler

my ritualist is at point where I need more currency than GGGs RNG thinks I need

[steady flint]

Then with my very limited knowledge on aurabots my vote goes to titan/lich depending on your needs.

Im assuming if you go ritualist it would be for 3×Andvarius? If thats the case nothing beats Ritualist in that regard..

So Lich for dmg and +1 curse if you need.
Titan for magnitude + aoe
Ritualist for third ring slot and 25% effect on them

[mighty drum]

Since aurabot usually runs with 5 body guards

I think only basic survival should be enough for it. Grim Feast helped last league a lot ^^

[dawn spire]

Chronomancer is also in the running for aura bot thanks to the slowing debuff and time freeze

I guess they'd probably go time snap time freeze over the slowing debuff tho

[mighty drum]

I think with current LS meta Pathfinder with it's mobility ascendancies as well as skill points/aliment immune beats Chronomancer, I guess area of pressence size will be main issue

[woven depot]

If the vote is between chronomancer and X, I’ll always vote chronomancer

Gotta have some fun as well

[mighty drum]

haha alright, into the bin my rambling about LS and ms stuff from pathfinder, I always wanted to be able to teleport in spacetime

thanks all!

[dawn spire]

I gotta say, after taking the 50% less movement penalty node and trying incinerate, I don't think I can go back to non-pathfinder. Slow immunity and moving quickly all the time just feels too good

It's as addicting as temporal rift

[bright haven]

Yo, what are ways of reducing cooldown on stuff, outside of gems? I'm trying to make flameblast have as low of a cooldown as possible

[atomic halo]

decent amount of cdr scattered around the tree

[woven depot]

yea if there was just a modicum of power in the pathfinder tree I wouldn’t play anything else, there’s so much juicy QoL

Extra skill points kinda whatever, can be huge for some builds though

[dawn spire]

Jewels can also roll cdrr

[dawn spire]

The evasion into ele damage reduction is massive power, as is immunity to slow, imo. Or did you mean offensive power?

[bright haven]

Hmmm.. I see

[bright haven]

Is it called cooldown recovery rate?

[atomic halo]

increased cooldown recovery rate, yeah

[bright haven]

I'm typing that in, not finding anything over on the witch side of stuff

Ohh increased

[atomic halo]

its mostly merc area though

[bright haven]

Shit

[atomic halo]

although there is a cluster for 10%

[bright haven]

Only one I found is minion related

[atomic halo]

you can probably from nothing + crimson assult for another 22%

[atomic halo]

forthcoming is in the witch area

[bright haven]

Yeah, I see that

Shee

I means thats not too bad to take since im using ember fusilade as well

Cool, thx

[static torrent]

There's one node by the top of the tree that isn't for Minions

But in general, it isn't super common on the tree

[bright haven]

Hmm.. I wonder why flameblast has fcking 15 seconds cooldown on it

Skill is really cool

[static plinth]

Didnt used to

They like tripled it's damage and put the 15s cooldown on it

[static torrent]

Making it more like original Hammer of the Gods, except they also removed the cooldown from HotG in the same patch and made it work around Glory instead, so not sure why Flameblast didn't get a similar approach if they wanted it to be less spammable.

[dawn spire]

It's a chrono buff, shhh

[manic kite]

When I see people play bleed they usually go for one big hit. For maximum bleed. Is the opposite viable where you prioritize very short bleed durations and apply a lot more bleeds with attack speed?

[static plinth]

Maximum bleed is 1

So, no, not remotely

[midnight obsidian]

sounds like you want something that consumes bleeding like haemocrystals (although those still scale off magnitude)

[manic kite]

is it different from poe 1? beause i believe people did do that in poe 1

[static plinth]

In PoE1 we had the Crimson Dance keystone

We do not here

We have Crimson Assault but thats a different thing that stll works fine with relatively low APS

[woven depot]

Yea sorry offensive power, defensives is something I have a bare minimum approach to

[vast rivet]

Hello so I just learned about the destiled stuff, what would yall recommend to use on rings for a deadeye ls

[fossil sable]

So I’ve been leveling an infernalist for beiras and I didn’t pay attention to the patch notes and well the build is mostly dead now. Wasn’t aware it used a bug. Anyway, I’m looking for a new fun build now with good clear and respectable bossing that ISNT lightning spear. I was thinking to keep my Infernalist around since Beiras still seems decent for mapping so I can at least just farm on it.

[hollow bronze]

Anybody got a good lighting crit witch build? With leveling and endgame

[dawn spire]

Blood mage kinda builds itself, imo. Insane amount of crit damage. You just gotta solve the life issue. If you go leech and the crit branch it's pretty solid. Or you can go the first crit node and the full life branch. As a hc player I'd vote for the second option, but it means you need to counteract sanguimancy somehow.

Infernalist is also pretty pog. If you take the three reservation nodes and run EB + MoM then you can be permanently on low life and get pain attunement for a huge crit damage bonus. The node that grants mana based on your life is also one of the only remaining ways to stack mana after 0.2. The hardest part is going to be getting enough mana to sustain MoM and your spell costs with EB. In a perfect world you'd also have enough mana to use archmage as well.

Lich can also work, tbh. Probably not as strong in terms of crit, but unholy might is very good for damage in general.

For leveling, orb of storms + spark is still very solid imo. You can also level with generic spell damage nodes (and nearby chaos damage nodes) and level with essence drain + Contagion

[hollow bronze]

This is what I'm talking about love the detail my dude thank you

I used Chao Lich in last patch( not league) it felt very underwhelming I had plus 9 to Lvls Chao also.. BUT it could of just been the patch making loot feel like poo so..
But the feeling of arc,spark with Orb of storm feels good ATM for me just the DPS isn't there yet obviously I only do 300dps ATM lol
I've heard Bloodmage is bad Vs stormwether. I haven't seen many builds also yet so.. But I know I wanna go crit build with a good clear speed( like monk last league)

I wanted to reroll my Chao but was taking too much effort and wanted to learn a new build also

[hollow galleon]

if you crit with a weapon that has barbs or quill, does the crit count for the thorns too? or is the thorns crit chance calculated separately

[manic kite]

do we know if this effects loot drops? normals would basically be considered rares

i mEAN MAGIC

[dawn spire]

Lich wasn't in the game last patch tho

[dawn spire]

People who say blood mage is bad compared to stormweaver are probably only comparing them in contests that stormweaver wins. Blood mage excels at having lots of life, sustain, and crit.
Stormweaver wins in mana, shock, and crowd control

[dawn spire]

Monster power has nothing to do with their drops

And normal monsters have a power of 1, rares have a power of 5

It does not turn normals into rares, it turns them into magics for the sake of calculating power*, I think. I believe magic monsters have a power of 2

And I think that value is modified by other things like the monster type

[manic kite]

yea i meant magic

[atomic halo]

normals would basically be considered rares
no, they would be considered as normal, because they are normal.

power is just for calculating warcry effects, energy for triggers, etc., it has absolutely nothing to do with drops.

[manic kite]

ok thamks

[hollow bronze]

@dawn spire last patch as in new league like this league we are in lol I playyed it at the start

G or F which ever is before the update today..

[hollow bronze]

Yeah means sense do you have on hand a good guide I could follow as I'm very very mew to witch.. I'm lvl 30 ATM doing not too bad but I feel my build will fall apart soon enough

[dawn spire]

I don't have a guide, but if you search for lighting|spell|crit in the passive tree it should basically light the way for you to path. There's no life on the tree anymore so just go wherever the numbers are biggest and coolest

[hollow bronze]

Okay thank dude, last season when monk was king it was so easy to just run down blinded tbh..

[dawn spire]

I will say that the nodes between warrior and druid with conversion of mana cost to life might be helpful if you find yourself with too little mana

[dawn spire]

I mean, spark archmage mana stacking was absolutely nuts too XD

[hollow bronze]

I know lmao.. kinda messed up my brain with what's strong and what's not lol if I'm not running down mid then it's not good enough

[dawn spire]

Right now there are so many untested builds. People flocked to lightning spear because it was the first really strong build in the public eye. But there could very well be more

[hollow bronze]

I hated that last league... But the speed time with monk made me change from ice strike to attribute stacking so..

Now I want a good chain lighting build for good clear and content loo

[rain plover]

Better leveling 2h for war?

[crude pine]

Beira is still good, just builds differently (you don’t build crit anymore)

[fossil sable]

Got a link?

[crude pine]

Near DPS optimal itemization/tree pathing should look something like this, assuming you are okay with the lowish max hit/ehp: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/tr2jj0o0
Should do ~1.08m chaos ignite dps when wither is stacked to 7 and ignite is aggravated (weapon swap)
Veil of the Night is for bosses, for mapping use Blood Price or Alpha's Howl
For skills ignore Ice Nova and Fireball, those are just crit sources. Probably something else like Ball Lightning is better there. I didn't fill all the support gems

[fossil sable]

Cool Ty. I’m guessing can just work around for more ehp if I don’t wanna die by just using blood price right

[obtuse briar]

anyone know a good average dps for essence drain when ur getting to t15 maps?

[crude pine]

yep yep. Veil of the Night is just a crazy like 60% more DPS so it's worth considering for bosses

[fossil sable]

Yeah cause of huge life

?

[crude pine]

yeah perfect vaal goes up to 61% increased life

[fossil sable]

Oh and yeah we drop malice cause no more crit huh

[crude pine]

yep. I did Discipline but anything else eg. Purity of fire/cold/lightning is fine

We want to keep it still for the 80% presence AoE modifier

and nice spirit

[fossil sable]

I see some people use solar orb but couldn’t figure out why

Solar orb + eow

[crude pine]

The goal is to crit as much as possible so you self ignite as much as possible, which means less Beira downtime

[fossil sable]

Ah okay

[crude pine]

Solar Orb is slow though and with low base crit so I don't really get it either

[fossil sable]

How much is blood price nowadays

[crude pine]

Extremely cheap

[fossil sable]

Can’t check I’m at work xd

[crude pine]

Kind of underrated item

It was 1ex in dawn of the hunt last time I checked (pre loot buff)

[fossil sable]

I was trying to use the boots that give you movespeed on ailment but I don’t think it’s worth. Xd

[crude pine]

you don't ever get the ignite ailment on you, the charm blocks it

[fossil sable]

Oh no wonder. I thought it just made you take no dmg

[crude pine]

Nope, gives full ignite immunity

[fossil sable]

I was like man 25 doesn’t feel like 25

[crude pine]

For crit proc, Ball Lightning + Orb of Storms is almost certainly optimal

it just has a lot of hits

[fossil sable]

Yeah I been trying eow and ball lightning

Not sure which I like better

[midnight obsidian]

if you really want to run those boots you can do shock reflect

[crude pine]

EoW is bad I think, it doesn't have the sustained tag which means it only rolls crit once

Or at least that's how it should work based on the wording

[fossil sable]

It seemed to proc more but might be placebo

[crude pine]

It doesn't apply critical weakness anymore like it did in 0.1.0

yeah maybe the projectiles themselves roll crit independently. skill is not worded super well

[fossil sable]

Hopefully it’s still good enough for me to farm for a real bosser that isn’t lightning spear

The attribute stacking ritualist looks cool af

[uncut trout]

What's the best way to boost my crit chance aside from the passive tree, guys?

[crude pine]

spells or attacks?
attacks, switch to a spear or quarterstaff, these have the highest base crit
spells, get spell crit chance affixes on gear, and consider malice sceptre

[uncut trout]

I'm using tangletongue

So I guess I'm asking gear wise like rings and amulets, etc

[crude pine]

buy a better tangletongue, it goes up to 29.4% base crit (vaal). The difference between the best and worst tangletongue is 100% more base crit chance, which is better than what you can get in any other gear slot

[uncut trout]

I've got a 23.57 base crit tangle

I don't have 70 divs to get the best ones lol

[crude pine]

If you are running Amazon, stack more accuracy for more crit chance. Often people run Lycosidae

And acc on breach rings

[uncut trout]

I have an Amazon but I switched to deadeye cuz I heard damage for LS in general is better, and it honestly feels that way. But maybe for tangletongue amazon is better

[crude pine]

you get roughly double damage against bosses on deadeye, depends what you are looking for

crit chance is easier to cap on amazon

[idle laurel]

does anyone have like a atlas tree thats "meta" (if there even is a meta with this tree) I dont know what to go for

[mystic dirge]

For a lich minion build, would Alpha howl or a helm wiith +2 minion skills be better?

[plain saddle]

Howl for more DMG atziri for more survi

[warm grail]

Any decent mf cull builds out there currently

[plain saddle]

Ofc there are

Been there since day 2

Or probably even day 1

[mystic dirge]

Thanks

[plain saddle]

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?items=Gravebind

Check these

[hoary bolt]

You guys think a Bursting Decay Lich could work?

Not sure what skill to use to best utilize the flat phys to attacks

[midnight obsidian]

caltrops

[hoary bolt]

unironically?

if so, how do people make that work

my build shell has about 3k life and 6k es

at 60 point spent

[static plinth]

Caltrops Support specifically, not the spirit gem Trail of Caltrops

The support drops a bunch of caltrops at the point of projectile impact which all also benefit from added flat

[hoary bolt]

oh cool

I would assume tangletongue is still best for it right

[static plinth]

Quill Rain might be good if the 40% less attack damage doesnt affect the caltrops

Otherwise yeah probably tangletongue

[hoary bolt]

i think quill would affect it

besides isnt caltrops spear only?

[static plinth]

Oh yeah it is

I thought it worked on all ranged attacks

So yeah go Tangletongue

[hoary bolt]

idk even know if this is going to be worth it tbh

you can get like 100 flat to attacks on a breach ring

times 2, times 1.3 from ignenuity is 260

[static plinth]

I PoBed it a bit but it came out mid as hell

[hoary bolt]

3000 life with 6% as phys is 180

would need like 5k life to even break even with just solid breach rings

if only flat phys was as strong in 2 as it is in 1

seems like a lot of build around and downside for almost no gain over normal rings

unless theres some skill or mechanic that specifically benefits from a lot of pure flat phys

pillar?

nah the same issue crops up that normal rings are just easier and better

[static plinth]

I think they'll only ever be noticeably better on Titan

If Overflow works with them, which i dont believe it does, thatd be pretty goated though

Put on a Gnashing Sash, get to 2x your life, get some ES and stay there and swap out your belt

[hoary bolt]

prob wouldnt work

current life =/= max life

that would be crazy though

[static plinth]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/872qg00m

Are there any sources of +Levels for Rapid Shot im missing here?

[plush crypt]

need help with pob, no matter how i set my distance, my momentum support gem isn't being considered for the full dps

[static plinth]

dawg

[plush crypt]

mines different

[static plinth]

Toggle this

[plush crypt]

ya that one's toggled unless i missed something

[midnight obsidian]

seems bugged you should be getting another checkbox next to the label

[cloud quarry]

can someone tell me if the mod for increased damage against rares and uniques includes bosses as well?

[plush crypt]

thats so weird why does his work though

[midnight obsidian]

show what version you have? bottom left

[midnight obsidian]

on that version it's hidden for me

[plush crypt]

i just downloaded and updated i thought it was the latest, would the build load up on an older release?

[midnight obsidian]

no clue, there's nothing about momentum on the issues tracker

[static plinth]

Apply for betas

[plush crypt]

beta installed, same issue. weird.

[hoary bolt]

ok I have a 12k hit pool, now how to do damage

im on a theorcrafting caffeine binge

[mighty drum]

what kind of damage

[hoary bolt]

any kind lol

minions, spells, attacks, dont really care

I just need a way to clear with this defensive shell

spells probably best since the 30% more damage from lich

[static plinth]

I just made a Rapid Shot lich theorycraft

Still trying to make it better though

[scenic onyx]

So I just caught an It That Hates Spectre for my Lich, I’m assuming I should put things like Chaos Infusion or increase Minion Level support gems? Not really sure how I should build my two It That Hates spectres or if I should just have one of them

[uncut trout]

For my lightning spear andies, is electrocute on herald of thunder good enough to maintain frenzy through combat frenzy?

[normal pumice]

How can I sustain frenzy charges for lightning spear?

[mighty drum]

if you can switch helm to Crown of Eyes you can go basic attack even

[hoary bolt]

crown is only increases, not more mults

[unreal sierra]

seems to be working correctly with travel skills like leap slam/shield charge

actually ignore me, its fixed in upcoming version

i had wrong one open

[uncut trout]

What other skills would be good for cast on crit with LS aside from snipers mark?

[frigid pawn]

Does the quality affect all minions or just the clerics here?

[atomic halo]

just the clerics

[ember pulsar]

What passives do I go for if I like eye of winter?

[mint summit]

crits

[ember pulsar]

Okay and is it worth picking up the cold passives scattered around?

Or the extra projectiles

[mint summit]

oh wait did they murder eye

does it not inflict crit weakness now?

[pearl sluice]

any ssf gamers?

[dire cave]

are there any other sources for reserving life similar to infernalist ascendancy?

[gaunt ether]

how much does "extra element added" matter on wands

im struggling to find wands with +skills and decent damage, that ALSO has a extra added element

[atomic halo]

depends on your build

[gaunt ether]

spark coc bloodmage

[atomic halo]

assuming you're scaling lightning a lot only gain as light will be useful

[dire cave]

asking for life reservation since infernalist is far removed from warrior tree

[gaunt ether]

yeah those wands are like 13 d sadly even with +4

[atomic halo]

i dont remember seeing any other source

[dire cave]

rip

had a idea to run coward's belt with reserve life alongside clash but geus that aint happening

like it can still work but you'd be spending most of you levels traveling to warrior area

[atomic halo]

probably viable

you'd be pathing to pain attunment with that, right

[dire cave]

it'd have to be a one hit kill aswell or it aint worth it

[atomic halo]

going straight down to warrior from there would be pretty easy

[dire cave]

also had the idea of running crown of eyes but not sure if thats worth it

[atomic halo]

although, one support a build does not make

[dire cave]

I know

it would be the main support tho

like 40% more dmg aint bad

[atomic halo]

doesnt it get worse as you deal damage

also why would you run coward's belt for this

[dire cave]

75% hp is low life then

instead of 50%

[atomic halo]

that doesnt actually interact with clash

[dire cave]

clash is 40% more melee dmg against enemies with a higher health %

reserving life puts you at 75%

[atomic halo]

sure, so the belt is only for pain attunement?

[dire cave]

or at least thats the idea

belt is to force low life at 75%

ascendancy is putting yourself at 75%

[atomic halo]

... right, and that is good because of pain attunment, and not the support.

[dire cave]

pain attunement aint a bad idea but just wondering how you would scale crit on a maul

[atomic halo]

if you have the 25% reserve

and not pain attunment

[dire cave]

I know

[atomic halo]

how exactly does being on LL help you

[dire cave]

like I will most likely get pain attunement anyways since its another layer of dmg

[atomic halo]

if you want to go crazy with crit on mace you can use nebuloch but that's a bit weird

[dire cave]

nebuloch requires consistent endurance gen

[atomic halo]

also for clash, once you deal enough damage to put their life under 75%

doesnt it stop working

[dire cave]

was more thinking along the lines of a 2h

it does stop working yes

hence why it must 1hit KO

since I am pretty sure the dmg still gets calculated from clash if the first hit kills them or puts them in cull range

havent tested this tho

[atomic halo]

in that case it would be easier to just have something like a big life cost on the skill or something

[dire cave]

wouldnt that still put you on the same health against the first enemy?

hence clash would not work then

[atomic halo]

wouldnt you pay the cost first, then actually hit them

[dire cave]

not sure if that works

but going with LL does allow you to run pain attunement

[atomic halo]

and for oneshotting, you want to oneshot bosses? or just rares

[dire cave]

30% more crit dmg

[dire cave]

pref both

[atomic halo]

cant hammer/sunder/perfect strike do it fine enough

and if they can't, the extra more damage from the support you would get over a regular support doesnt seem to be enough to compensate

[dire cave]

aint sunder only good against broken armour or am I stupid?

[atomic halo]

well yeah, first break the armour

[dire cave]

would perfect strike or super slam be better?

[atomic halo]

i havent seen a single person use supercharged slam since it was nerfed in 0.1.0

[dire cave]

was it nerfed?

[atomic halo]

it was broken on release and nerfed

[dire cave]

149% attack dmg at level 19 with 5 stages of 60% more dmg

perfect strike is 1248% at lvl 19

granted thats in perfect window

not sure how much the 60% more damage affects the calculations

[atomic halo]

60*5 = 300

149*4 = 596

[dire cave]

why the 149*4? does it do seperate damage per shockwave?

[hoary bolt]

unrestricted damage bonuses go brrr

[dire cave]

also doesnt super slam have 5 shockwaves at 20% quality?

[hoary bolt]

oooh speaking of SCS, let me get my spreadsheet

[dire cave]

you have a spreadsheet on SCS?

[dire cave]

might I ask if you also happen to have one for perfect strike?

[hoary bolt]

i do not, but SCS is better overall if you can tank through the windup

[dire cave]

well thats the plan

1 hit KO bullwark

just thinkin on how to do it best

since witch is only one with reserve life

running that with coward's belt and pain attunement

thats about as far as I've gotten

[hoary bolt]

honestly Id just go warbringer and 90% svalinn turtle charm block

with unwavering stance

should allow you to get the full charge off a vast majority of the time

[dire cave]

I probs wont have a problem getting it off

plan to run giants blood anyways

with armour ES

[hoary bolt]

unwavering might be necessary though

because any light stun at all will cancel the entire channel

[dire cave]

fair enough

[hoary bolt]

i did have a pob somewhere around here with 10m damage per charge

but thats not enough to 1 shot pinnacles

best 'melee' 1 shot rn is actually bleed shield charge though

[crude pine]

neat, this would go hard on a flicker strike build probably

[hoary bolt]

issue is what to build the combo with

probably whirling assault

[dire cave]

I plan to run clash, heavy swing and fist of war

havent decided on the last 2

[hoary bolt]

dauntless

up to 45% more for SCS

[crude pine]

you build the combo with flicker strike, then use Culmination on another ability for one shotting tanky rares

[hoary bolt]

oh I thought you were doing it in reverse. Both ways work actually since damage is snapshotted through all flicker hits

[dire cave]

how does it feel to have to wait 1.5 seconds tho?

[hoary bolt]

terrible honestly

at least for moving around

execute with deepest tower?

[dire cave]

execute is against low life tho

they wont be low life but full life

rage on hit taken wont be a bad option either

[crude pine]

eye of winter does 17 to 25 cold damage per hit at level 20, the damage is simply not there to have it as your main ability

comparable other spells have 10x base damage

[dire cave]

eye of winter used to have crit weakness

[hoary bolt]

thats why I said deepest tower

[crude pine]

ya, just not on current patch

[dire cave]

what is deepest tower?

a shield?

[dire cave]

ah a helmet

[hoary bolt]

allows you to pick up all the huge % low life damage nodes on the tree near warrior

and one of them gives lucky damage

[dire cave]

not a bad idea

[hoary bolt]

and then also allows execute support

[dire cave]

that only solves 4 socket

what about last support

[hoary bolt]

this cluster is 240% inc damage and lucky damage

and this one is another 210%

brutality?

rageforged?

[dire cave]

probs rageforged

getting rage when hit anyways

[low glacier]

Is there any support gem that can cause Glacial Lance to put out multiple projectiles?

[dire cave]

if scattershot doesnt do it I would assume there is none

[low glacier]

Weirdly enough it doesn't? Even though GL counts as a projectile attack

[dire cave]

only other thing you could try is barrage

but would require frenzy tho

feel like this wont quite work

[low glacier]

I'm a monk lol

[dire cave]

yeah and?

[low glacier]

I'm trying to see if monk can scale spear. Also I have combat frenzy

[dire cave]

you can still run barrage on monk

just not sure if it works with GL

[low glacier]

Yeah, I tried barrage on GL but it doesn't really make a difference

Idk how people are running it but spear just feels a bit underwhelming when you start fighting yellow enemies

[dire cave]

also best spear clear skill is lightning spear

I'm running LS huntress

works against everything but bosses can struggle with frenzy charges

so I run spear throw against bosses

GL is more of a freeze trigger

[fossil sable]

chimera boss is a pain in the ass for beiras

i cant crit against the pillars so i cant do anything for that

[dire cave]

I mean why would you be able to crit a stone structure anyways

[fossil sable]

thats how i do dmg, crit xd.

[dire cave]

those pillar dont have a crazy amount of hp tho

[fossil sable]

when youre beiras and you cant ignite, then its a billion hp[

[dire cave]

sorry what does beiras mean?

[fossil sable]

beiras ignite build. charm that ignites enemies around you when you get ignited -> infernalist ignites herself on crit.

[dire cave]

ah

cant you run ailment boots?

infinite pursuit?

[fossil sable]

no

charm removes ignite

[dire cave]

yes but demonflame makes you take dmg

just not sure if that is considered a hit

at that point just pray you get ignite

like it aint ideal but if it is considered a hit you can at least do something

meanwhile I am here trying to figure out how imma do this skill tree

[fossil sable]

i dont have demonflame

beiras doesnt use it

[dire cave]

when you are trying to figure out a skill tree but you dont have enough points and dont see how to make it more efficient

and you dont wanna run 3 forced uniques

trying to make a melee LL infernalist

skill tree doesnt make it easy

:/

anyone around proficient in making skill tree efficient?

[oak juniper]

some1 played poe1? is there something similiar to "Elemental Damage Reduction"?

[dire cave]

what do you mean elemental damage reduction?

like phys taken as elemental?

[oak juniper]

no

its not resistance but it does not show in character sheet

[dire cave]

to my knowledge that is poe2 new

[oak juniper]

the proplem is 10.000 elemental damage reduction can be anything in %, so guesswork

[dire cave]

assuming it works similar to armour

[oak juniper]

what would 10.000 armor be?

[dire cave]

if it has a similar formula to armour phys damage reduction

its not worth taking

need 100K armour to be effective against big hits

armour is against small hits

not big hits

as for the elemental dmg reduction I cant say

can only assume

[oak juniper]

its hard to really test what it does

[rocky sinew]

Does increased area of effect increase the spread area of contagion? the range does not increase when i use the support gem

[oak juniper]

if it works with small hits that would be fine for mapping

[dire cave]

should work for spread

[rocky sinew]

ty

[oblique sluice]

Hello. How does ailment contribution work? Say something is poisoned. And i hit it with 0% poison chance 100 chaos damage after resistances.

[oak juniper]

you mean how poison works?

if he has poison it’s separate from any other damage.

If the poison is applied only changes in chaos res would influence the damage.

[young hinge]

anyone know how reality rending works with fireball? does it roll chance for extra dmg once at the start or every time a proj/firebolt hits

im guessing once at start or it would be way too many calculations .

[halcyon kernel]

yo - is this more like it? still working on wand/shield - https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1gxh490g4i1w3/b0xa-2404/LifeUhFindsAWay

[dire cave]

@hoary bolt so in your opinion which would be better for a single target/hit perfect strike or super slam?

[hoary bolt]

scs is better but takes longer and is more likely to miss due to boss moving

[dire cave]

so if boss aint moving super slam is better

[ember pulsar]

Quick question is herald of thunder/ice pointless for spells like arc and eye of winter?

[static torrent]

Heralds only work with Attacks and require a Martial Weapon to be equipped, so you can't use them with Spells.

[dire cave]

what about the herald cluster

doesnt that only affect elemental dmg

regardless of attack or spell

[static torrent]

It does, but you would need to have a Herald active. This would mean that you need to be using a Martial Weapon instead of a Staff or Wand, which means you're likely to be losing out on a lot of good stats from those.

[dire cave]

are you required to have a martial weapon to even have the herald active?

[void osprey]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/5fcf
Im running this build, trying to kinda follow Fubguns build
but for some reason my frenzy generation is quite inconsistent. I tried to fix it by running Cast on Crit for the time being. But in his version he doesnt need it.
Am I missing something?

[static torrent]

Yes

[dire cave]

thats stoopid

[stiff shadow]

I am playing evasion/armor for the first time and no matter what I mostly get one shot almost every map. Doesn't matter how much evasion I stack, even tried acrobatics with 60% evasion rating and still get oneshot all the time

how is this even possibly fun,

is ES really the only bloody choice in this game?

[karmic geyser]

armor is kind of all or nothing

you are severely penalised for relying on low levels of armor

[north heart]

Is smith of katava very tanky?

[oak juniper]

If you have high evasion you can try ghost dance

Still need some es though 🙂

Even with 99% evasion you only get 1shot less often.

Hit pool for that

Ghost Dance and evasion for sustainability

[ember pulsar]

Would hand of chaulya trigger heralds?

[plain saddle]

Do you know how heralds are triggered?

While active, killing Shocked enemies with a non-Herald Attack Hit will cause subsequent Attack Hits to release lightning bolts which deals Attack damage to all surrounding enemies.

[mortal swift]

you dont have enough damage

if herald doesnt electrocute then you wont get the frenzy charge

If you have enough dmg/electorcute buildup, after you have max charge it should refresh handidly. To start off you can always manual cast snipers mark on first pack to get going

[dawn spire]

1. The wand is terrible, it's missing +level to chaos spells.
2. I still see a scepter in both weapon sets. A wand + focus will give you the most damage for your chaos spells.
3. I still see two minion clusters that shouldn't be there. I would recommend having zero minions, personally.
4. Your supports are very rough. Chaotic freeze is... Okay on contagion since dark effigy exists. Concentrated effect is maybe the worst possible support you could use on contagion. I would put magnified effect on it and put concentrated effect on dark effigy (replacing Ancestral urgency).
5. The phylactery node is a wild choice, imo. Unless you have an insanely good jewel, there's zero chance that node is worth it. I'd respec into the extra curse node, remove whispers of doom, take despair off of blasphemy, and run despair + inspiration + Decaying hex. It will give you another chaos dot to fuel dark effigy and contagion will be able to spread it. Plus it will give you more damage since it won't have blasphemy's outrageous curse magnitude penalty

@halcyon kernel

[warped jackal]

Would it be workable to have cast on ignite (with some fire spells like firestorm etc.) in combination with artillery balista's? I think it would be fun to use something like this

but idk if its usefull or efficient

[stiff shadow]

is there a reason why you cannot tame the big spider mobs (black strider)? it counts as beast

[north heart]

What warrior build are yall doing

[fierce sluice]

I want to make sure I understand correctly, does raw cold damage directly increase freeze build up?

It seems like most ailments build up is directly increased by the damage of the hit

[halcyon kernel]

awesome feedback, thanks 😄 still working on it. i miss the barrier of minions playstyle tho, but certainly does much more dps already

i have a +4 chaos wand ready but need to lvl to 78

[obsidian ermine]

I am a Lightning Spear Amazpn lvl 77 on tier 8 maps with SSF. I found tangletongue, is it better than the rare I have?

[static torrent]

Yes. You can also increase it with anything that specifies 'increased Freeze Buildup'

[fierce sluice]

awesome!!! I am going for a frostbolt cold snap build that will later add frostwall/comet, and I am working on my single target. I think that currently I should pick up more damage on my passive tree and get freeze build up once I have at least +100% additive damage from sources

Gonna pick up the left side of the first cluster, and 3 of the nodes from this one (freeze build up, cold skill levels, cold exposure effect)

this also seems very good, +50% to cold exposure affect, so if I have lets say 100% increased cold exposure effect, instead of -20% it would be -40%?

[static plinth]

Yes

[fierce sluice]

awesome

also chill and freeze are completely independent things right

This reads like you can chill an enemy all day and not freeze them if you do not have enough cold damage+freeze build up

Chill would still be good though because it will keep constant uptime on my nodes that give +spell dmg to enemies affected by ailments

[karmic geyser]

for this to work you need to have something in your build that applies exposure. simply allocating that node will not apply exposure on monsters

[fierce sluice]

Yes I use frost bomb!

[karmic geyser]

chill is very easy to apply. if you are doing enough cold damage to freeze monsters then you are guaranteed to apply chill

also monsters standing on chilled ground automatically applies chill

[fierce sluice]

very nice, my frostbolt with scattershot is chilling a lot of the ground so that is good to know

I love the interaction between unleash cold snap and scattershot frostbolt

usually scattershot seems to suck early game, but in this scenario it feels way better

[summer vessel]

Did they gut the ignite charm builds?

[woven depot]

nah it’s still functionable

but they did fix the bug that was amping it up a bit

[summer vessel]

Oh ok, that was one build I wanted to try but was waiting until after the g patch. Getting bored of LS lol

[static plinth]

Not really, Chill needs big hits but Freeze will eventually buildup no matter what

See Dark Effigy + Chaotic Freeze

[karmic geyser]

i guess so. maybe my experience with 0.1 ice strike invoker + HoI polcirkeln has clouded my judgement lmao

[woven depot]

Noll Reed is still having a lot of fun with it post bug fix, he’s a nice dude so if you catch him in the channels here he’ll probably answer any question you might have #2┃general message

[static plinth]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/8q3qy00w

Anyone have tree suggestions for this?

[regal fjord]

is there a way to add flat damage to minion/companion outside of sceptres (that I can't use anyway) ?

[wary dove]

this is the advice I've been looking for

I have no ES but 73% evasion. super squishy

[static plinth]

Is there any easy sources of more recovery for this?

I want to be on perma low life so Essentia Sanguis wont work unfortunately

Shavronne's Satchel would kind of work ig but id like the res from my belt to make the other gear slots cheaper

[static plinth]

Soul Tether,* Sanguis works fine though losing the other stats on my gloves kinda sucks

[glacial pike]

For galvanic shards plus shock burst rounds whats your ideal set up for support gems if youre running both

[wide herald]

With the monk notable that makes it so you can't get spirit from equipment - does this also include spirit from an against the darkness jewel?

I would think it doesn't impact the spirit from that since the additional spirit are from notables

[azure wyvern]

What is a cheapest build for either warrior/mercenary/monk?

[glacial pike]

Mercenary rapid fire is super cheap

And shock burst galvanic shards is pretty cheap as well

[dawn spire]

Artillery ballista smith is ssf viable

[hardy agate]

I did a "league start" as twister tactician. Looking to level something else now but I hate joining the bandwagon and realised I haven't done any spell builds yet. Apparently spells are not in a good spot right now so what are my options?

[oblique marlin]

will this work together? IE hit once condition will transfer to splitted projectiles? Also, chain and Split will work together or not? because every effect happening after initial target hit, so idk
Can projectile Split+Chain at the same time?

[static plinth]

Order of effects is Split -> Pierce -> Fork -> Chain, they do work together

I dont understand the rest of the question

[oblique marlin]

ok, another questions
if we can gather somehow +100% charm effect, does that will generate +2 charges on use? 45% from tree, then from items, etc

[crude pine]

There are no other sources of charm effect in the game that I'm aware of. You can get it up to 55% with Titan which may be enough to round, but usually things of this sort are round down

The nearby jewel socket is slightly too far for increased effect

[crude pine]

Hit once very likely should transfer yes. It's a global modifier to everything in the skill

[crude pine]

note that this applies before penetration; if you are doing a hit build and exposing with a large magnitude your penetration will become useless

since it caps at 0%

[oblique marlin]

so anything like this will do zero damage with spiral volley? any additional projectiles from pierce, fork, split?
to same target ofc

[crude pine]

It will do extra damage only if there are enough mobs to hit

which is likely not the case unless it's something very dense, like breach. Spiral Volley seems to be designed to scale mostly with frenzy charges and then hit damage

[crude pine]

You can get +2 from wearing Serpent's Egg btw

I would also look at getting "1 rage on hit" corrupt on your martial weapon

That will help with Hateforge triggers

[fierce sluice]

I am a little confused on what you mean by this

[crude pine]

although rage generation from hit has a cooldown, so it doesn't solve charge gen by itself

[fierce sluice]

what specifically caps at 0%

[crude pine]

You can get it from nodes like this

[fierce sluice]

Yes I would only take that node for cold exposure anyways

From frost bomb

[crude pine]

another thing to consider for that build: you can invest in a gem like this to get another 10% increased exposure effect from this area

[fierce sluice]

ooooh very cool thank you!

[crude pine]

it may not be worth it though; 10% increased exposure effect is equivalent to -2% resistance which with the high increased effect you already have is like 2% more damage

[dusk frost]

anyone know how much life i should have as a level 30 warrior?

[pearl breach]

Hello, I wanted to ask if the effects of offerings with the overabundance gem could be combined ?

[copper summit]

When you use an attack skill to trigger a spell is there a way to scale both damage?

[dusky wadi]

Is fire sorceress any good right now?

[dusky wadi]

why do i see a build using a shield on sorceress?

[static plinth]

Because shields are good for defence?

Sorceress with a two-handed mace was hugely popular last patch

Gear isnt remotely classlocked

[static plinth]

Crown of Eyes, or non-attack/spell damage like % Inc Elemental

[dusky wadi]

i mean, i guess shield charge is also good for moving around, i just thought a focus would be outright better

[gusty barn]

Can thorns damage be blocked and does anyone know if there is an interaction to make your thorns hit yourself

[hybrid ocean]

Stats wise a focus will be superior, but shields offer block chance.

[dusky wadi]

god im torn between fire and cold sorc

[proud condor]

Fireflower unique amulet - where when your thorns ignites an enemy, you take damage

[gusty barn]

Thanks

[proud condor]

Other self damage mechanics are Scold's Bridle and Heartbound Loop, may not be compatible with thorns

[dusky wadi]

is scattershot worth on frostbolt?

[young hinge]

no spirit period

[wide herald]

Sorry, I meant the invoker one haha

[static plinth]

It doesnt, jewels arent generally considered equipment

[supple jay]

have any of the curse support gems been fixed to work with blasphemy yet

or is ritualistic curse and heightened curse still the only ones that work

[karmic geyser]

sometimes i find meta skills can be a bit bugged to not show supports that you can actually socket

i have to manually socket them

[wary pagoda]

any minions experts here?

[dire cave]

so how good is stalking panther on huntress?

where it doubles evasion from helmet, boots and gloves but halves evasion from body armour

[young hinge]

sounds useful if u want to use some kind of unique body that isnt big on evasion

[dire cave]

like body armour has on good roll about 1500 evasion

and boots, gloves and helmet have between 500-600 each

so on paper wouldnt that mean its a good ascendancy?

since it puts body armour here down to 750 and boots, gloves and helmet to 1000-1200 each

also is +% max resistance as important in poe 2 as in poe 1?

[oak juniper]

usually you dont use evasion on those 3

no energy shield, no hitpool

[young hinge]

its more about making ur build less reliant on getting the bulk of its evasion rating from the body armor slot and allowing u to run something interesting for example:

[void osprey]

Hello, my friend is playing Bloodmage Lightning spear. everyone now and then he can steal the buffs of Rare monster like Magma barrier / Temporal bubble etc. He doesnt have Headhunter belt but is still able to do it. How?

[hoary bolt]

behead support?

[halcyon kernel]

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1gxh490g4i1w3/b0xa-2404/LifeUhFindsAWay latest update 😄

think i need a +x chaos amu, new shield with spell damage, then i think im getting somewhere

[pearl sluice]

does anyone have or know of a good shield wall build, i have been trying to find a way to utilize its high life for damage, like we do with totems in POE1. But i cannot find any items to do that. I just want to leap into a mob, then shield wall then boom the mob/pack/boss. Preferably with an ignite, but I wonder if it can shotgun since it makes seperate wall sections, so maybe bleed is possible? idk. I just want to leap in and hulk smash with the wall.

[frigid pawn]

Does an echo count as a reoccurance?

[oblique marlin]

anyone can tell me how many arrows and total rain duration will be if 10 charges will be consumed by deadeye with passive x2, means 20 charges?

[radiant oxide]

hey guys i have a coulpe of questions about cold snap builds:

1. Does Sniper's Mark gives crit damage bonus over 300% from Maligaro's Virtuosity?
2. Why people use Profusion in Sniper's Mark for Cold Snap builds? Like there is no abilites/nodes/items interaction with Frenzy Charges or i am just not seeing it?

[void osprey]

Omg it is,we were losing our heads trying to find out why
thank u so much

[static spade]

Does Shield Wall skill react as a terrain or a unit? Does projectile fork/chain on it or does bounce on terrain projectile affect it?

[frosty finch]

does anyone know if this stacks together ?

[livid fulcrum]

Doesn't the chest just make the first line of perk irrelevant?@

[dawn spire]

Much better! Biggest thing I would say to change is to out magnified effect on contagion, get rid of concentrated effect, and put that curse-specific area support gem in blasphemy in place of magnified effect

At the very least, just remove conc effect from contagion. It's actually purely negative

Contagion doesn't even deal area damage so it's ONLY hurting you

[karmic geyser]

you can't take less than 0 extra damage from crits

[frosty finch]

ok thanks for the info 🙂

[karmic geyser]

idk what you were thinking would happen if they did somehow stack

[dawn spire]

The unique renders the first line of battle-hardened useless

I'm not sure if there's a world where you could reduce crit damage bonus by 100% and make crits deal less damage than normal hits. I'm assuming that's what they were asking

[frosty finch]

yeah

[mortal swift]

51*(1+1+0.5*19) = 586?

[mortal swift]

oh wait it'll just be 20 so 612

[oblique marlin]

nvm, figured out

so near 48 seconds of one rain, lol

one idea mate, what about Blistering Bond ruby ring, we taking fire damage instead of phys from bleeding. Now, is there any self-bleeding in PoE2?

[dawn spire]

even if there was, that wouldn't be an ignite

[static plinth]

Cloak of Flame + Scold's Bridle might work

Corrupt it to a 122% Scold's and cast a super high level curse

It'll probably work if you can tank it

But for what

[oblique marlin]

tried already, didnt work, Beira;s build on non infernalist trying to do

[oblique marlin]

folks one question, Reduced charm Effect duration possible only one one unique belt, and thats all for now?

[atomic halo]

ive looked, and havent found any other source.

[granite river]

Acolyte of chayula

Hi, someone can help me make normal build for that ascendance? But not bow or wand
Normal melee like monk
Using barehand and hand of chayula or spear of ire ? If that possible

[mellow pasture]

havent decide which ascendency to go , was planning for a flicker strike charactor , is this good for amazon flicker?

[mint meadow]

Without going Amazon, Blood Mage, or Tangletongue how can you get close to crit cap?

[eternal osprey]

Anyone knows if i can use both sniper mark and voltair mark in cast on crit? Or it wont work?

[karmic oyster]

only one mark per enemy, unless you are Deadeye and use Called Shots, which gives 2

[eternal osprey]

yep, thats what i though, just wanted to make sure, ty

[elfin sequoia]

anyoen got an end game viable on-theme ritualist build reference/link/guide?

[raw marlin]

for fubgun's Lightning Spear/Serpent's Fury Deadeye, a 350 ES helmet for a midgame build would be enough ?

it's pretty cheat so itd be ideal

[oak juniper]

its about 1hitting, so i guess defense is optional anyways 🙂

[raw marlin]

hm i dont except to one hit on the "budget" version of the build

i could be wrong tho

i have this sweat spear tho

[oak juniper]

350es helmet is fine though, more important are the mods

[raw marlin]

you can take a look it looks like the only important thing is the ES on this

[oak juniper]

still need resistance cap, right?

if you get good resistance on helmet, you dont have to put it on expensive stuff

[raw marlin]

ofc im looking into that as well

besides that id just be happy to get +maximum life

i dont think my budget will be enough for more anyway

[oak juniper]

If you looking for life on helmet your options regarding es are limited anyways because that’s also a prefix.

Might also get some good +life from strength on helmet

[fossil sable]

what is this setup and does it actually do something?

unleash doesnt seem to add magnitude or anything im just confused on this setup i saw on poeninja

[raw marlin]

can i in the trade website put something that works like an "if" for the affixes requirements ? like cold to damage to attacks if not fire damage etc

[broken wing]

Hey guys i want to know is infernalist worth it as a summoner? I mean so far it can only summon a hell hound demon .

[raw marlin]

cause for the rings i could either have two elemental to damage or three, idc

[midnight obsidian]

count(1) with both flat damage

[raw marlin]

from here how im making it ?

[midnight obsidian]

min 1 means at least 1 types of flat dmg

[raw marlin]

oh alr

[midnight obsidian]

you can also add phys in there if you're converting

[pearl sluice]

Can someone explain chaotic infusion? So like spire of ire, if you consumer a charge trigger chaotic infusion you gain 2 chaos infusion. I am not sure what that really entails

[midnight obsidian]

it's the same extra burst dmg as infuse weapon except converted to chaos

[atomic halo]

once you have infusion, your projectiles will trigger a chaos explosion at the end of their travel

that explosion will consume 1 infusion

[midnight obsidian]

you can have both and the wiki tells me the last amazoness node works but I don't have the spear to test it out

[pearl sluice]

so if I use the ring to convert chaos damage and something like spire of ire, and just run normal javazon tech, will it add all chaos explosions to the build for LS? Just trying to understand it sorry

[raw marlin]

and how do i set the minimum starting dmg ?

how can i say i want at least 2 ele added dmg + the minimum for it

[midnight obsidian]

weighted sum then

[midnight obsidian]

set each weight for the affixes to 1 (or higher/lower depending on your support gems) then the min amount is the sum

[raw marlin]

something like that doesnt work what i did wrong

[midnight obsidian]

disable the first group if doing sum

[raw marlin]

how do i end up w this

im so dumb its embarassing

[atomic halo]

you dont need osin

the explosions will occur regardless of the damage dealt by the hit that procs it

of course, it would help by not splitting your scaling

[pearl sluice]

would I be able to scale it with like a chaos monk you think?

[midnight obsidian]

any class that can generate/consume charges sure

[raw marlin]

nvm think i got it

[pearl sluice]

kind of sounds fun ty

[raw marlin]

this way right ?

[midnight obsidian]

yes

this is also how you search for stuff with res (+ all elemental) since pseudos don't really work

[raw marlin]

could u hint me on whats considered "very high flat dmg", im doing deadeye LS Serpent build

[midnight obsidian]

sort by price descending and once it's beyond what you can afford that's very high damage

[raw marlin]

clever

by how many i substract my equipment & other res sources to get the final results with the acts malus

[atomic halo]

1. just use pob
2. 40% (-60% from 6x10% act penalty; +20% from 2 x 10% of each per act)

[raw marlin]

i didnt know pob updated to poe2

[atomic halo]

only a few months ago

[raw marlin]

btw premium stashes cant sell equipments anymore ?

tabs i mean*

i cant figure out how to do it

[edgy geyser]

does anyone know when monk got nerfed? im looking for a build guide but im worried some are outdated

[atomic halo]

if it says 0.2.0 updated it's good

some stuff like lead me through grace and tempest bell were nerfed in 0.2.0

[edgy geyser]

yea i still use tempest bell because im limited on my actual skills

alot of my skills rely on something else like low life or power charges

[green spruce]

So when Vaal orbing a Skill gem already at cap quality, already at cap socket count. Using an omen of corruption. Is it possible for nothing to happen even though using the omen should make that not possible?

[rapid lily]

are there any good chronomancer builds at all?

[oblique marlin]

how this build working without Scold's Bridle anyone can tell? or he swapping it? https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Pope3464-3117/Master_Spliffalot?i=1&search=class%3DDeadeye%26items%3DBijouborne

[raw marlin]

theres no way on mob to know which points to take first ?

cause afaik theres no pob for this build

[pearl sluice]

how do I add jewels on POB? I wanted to test out effects some had

[woven depot]

go to the Items section, bottom of your list there’s socket 1-X

[pearl sluice]

so you craft the jewel with the stats you want for it?

like for example I want to add a time lost diamond there and see how it interacts, I would create a time lost diamond with the effects I want and then add it to the socket and it would alter them?

[woven depot]

Aaahh yes, first step is to use the craft part in the top right of the item section

But yes, that’s how you’d do it

[pearl sluice]

tysm

excited to cook

[woven depot]

Hell yea, have fun

[rapid lily]

does the mercenary have any good builds ? Im looking for something that isnt just lightning spear that clears screens

[woven depot]

poe2ninja is a good tool if you wanna find out what people are playing

[nocturne geyser]

is ther any eareth quacke builds?

[pearl sluice]

Does the coming calamity chest just give you skills? Like what is the benefit of it? Do you still need the spirit to activate each herald?

[woven depot]

No spirit necessary

[mint summit]

ok who is running good flicker strike

I need to find an expert

[pearl sluice]

oh wow ok, can you add support gems in?

[woven depot]

ye

[hollow galleon]

lol dumb terracotta soldiers. Sometimes they activate, sometimes they don't. Fun 10 spirit specters though.

[crude pine]

update: turns out flicker strike specifically doesn't build up combo for some reason

[hoary bolt]

huh weird

[crude pine]

ya probably bugged

[mint summit]

ok how are we making quick power charges lads

and is it just sacrifice + profane?

(at the beginning of map I mean, Im planning to CoC profane in map)

[woven depot]

if it’s for flicker then yea, I’d do weapon swap sac + PF

[mint summit]

im committed now, 9 max charges, 74% chance to not use a charge

[woven depot]

it’s also nicer for starting boss fights, can just go straight into flicker with little set up

[dusky wadi]

is it possible to do a hybrid between fire and cold sorc?

[woven depot]

yes, you can cook up basically anything but that particular flavour even has support in the passive tree

[dusky wadi]

really?

[manic kite]

what defensive route would you guys recommend if im accuracy stacking with deepest tower helm on a gemling

[mint summit]

can flicker's teleport-to radius be scaled?

[crude pine]

path up towards monk and get % ES, you are already adjacent to it since ranger area is where you acc stack

also make sure you have +life mods on your gear if you don't already

you need max hit, and % life was removed from the tree for unclear reasons. so % ES is the only reasonable way to scale to a big number.

[manic kite]

so like the usual evasion es?

stuff

or pure es

i dont think i have space for max life. as i need attack on rings and accuracy

[crude pine]

yeah since you're at evasion anyway

[crude pine]

you are trading off max hit then. there is no free lunch

but all armor/jewellery pieces have + max life somewhere, chances are you are not capped on those

[mint summit]

@woven depot ok initial testing is promising, but CoC didn’t seem to be going consistently during flicker with 41% crit

[crude pine]

you need 100 energy per cast, more if you slot supports for profane ritual. CoC gives 1 per crit base so it needs energy support gems and high crit

I think charged staff shockwave might count independently for crits? (haven't tested but seems like it should work) so you should probably have that up as well

[fossil sable]

Does anyone know what version of the ignite whirling slash gemling dslily is playing

[cursive girder]

is Ming's Heart Amethyst Ring good end game for damage? I'm playing Ritualist, so I have the extra ring slot. seems like it'd be a pretty decent jump in my DPS, and its a knock to my already squishy survivability, but wondering if its worth it

[tardy acorn]

Newer player here. Does anyone know if attack speed increases banner placement time? It feels like skill speed works but can’t tell if attack speed does. Not super familiar with pob which I’m sure would tell me

[cursive girder]

May be mistaken but I thought it had to do with the tags on the gem, if it says “attack” it’s affected by attack speed, if it says “skill” affected by skill speed. Again could be wrong but that’s how I thought it worked

[tardy acorn]

Oddly enough banner doesn’t have a skill tag but it seems (at least in feel) to be effected by skill speed. Im wearing anvil amulet which reduces skill speed by 10% and not my normal anoint giving a + 10% skill speed resulting in 20% than what I normally have and it feels must slower

Trying to figure out if I can scale it back up with attack speed but it feels the same with or without it

[cursive girder]

Oh interesting, I have no idea then

[static plinth]

Its not an attack, you need skill speed

[tardy acorn]

Also advanced stats says it’s 1 second to use no matter what I apply even when I’m 20% skill speed higher which I assume just isn’t showing correctly

[static plinth]

Every ability you use is a Skill

Including default attack

[tardy acorn]

Ty

[static plinth]

There is no skill tag because everything with tags is a skill

[proven iron]

I've seen some builds lately that use shield charge with nebuloch to create a mega ignite. Can anyone help me understand that tech? Shield charge damage and stuff comes from the shield, right? How are they generating fire damage?

[static plinth]

Are they infernalists?

They get All Damage Can Ignite

[manic kite]

whats considered a good effective hit pool

where you cant get one shot

in like t15 juiced maps

[fluid geode]

Nebuloch for crit. Then stack mega cdmg and magnitude. Shield charge got a very high dmg % multiplier. Infernalist have all damage contribute to ignite magnitude, so they stack whatever they can for cdmg, magnitude, damage, and all the multiplicative things happen and yeah

[proven iron]

Ahh, so you don't actually need a fire skill to trigger ignite when you have bringer of flame?

I thought it just added non fire damage to the magnitude when you rolled an ignite.

[tawdry orbit]

is there a way to mitigate light stunn interuptions? i was trying to build flicker strike and it does ok but trying to cast its long ass animation constantly gets me killed cause one white mob tags me and the animation gets canceled

[supple jay]

do charms work on the hit that procs them, have they fixed that yet

just wondering if I should get 57% chaos res or 75% if I'm using forsaken bangle amethyst charm

[broken scroll]

So reading the description for herald of blood, it can basically only do 15% of the enemies HP as damage, if you deal all of your DMG via blood loss? But if you deal 50% of the enemies HP with blood loss, the enemy would explode for 7.5% if it's HP? How does this exactly work?

Not even for 7.5% of its HP, it scales the base phs DMG on HoB by 7.5% of the HP consumed via blood loss (if you did 50% of HP, 15% at 100% HP DMG via blood loss) That is unbelievably horrible

Literally useless basically, especially because it deletes the corpse. Herald of ice is infinitely better

HoI and HoT both scale with attack DMG. HoB doesn't and uses a horrible base DMG.. this should at least make it not required a martial weapon to use, if it's not going to scale with it.. what a shame

[hoary bolt]

put haemocrystals + envenom + bursting plague on Herald of Blood

thank me later

[broken scroll]

Very interesting, will look into this

Unfortunately I am not bleeding

:/

[hoary bolt]

i would only use HoB on a bleed build tbh

[broken scroll]

Well. It's blood loss

Just not bleed

Corrupted blood

Which does contribute to bloodloss

[hoary bolt]

i think that might work then?

[broken scroll]

Haemocrystals wont

Is what I was saying

[hoary bolt]

oh yeah

[broken scroll]

But that support does sound very cool

[hoary bolt]

its pretty cool when it all works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hf2kMP8Y0k

[broken scroll]

Trying to make a bloodbarrier iron buckler + thorns build work

And want to capitalize on blood loss from buckler

Blood hunt seems like a solid option

Otherwise a normal shield with thorns may be better

[grand python]

Can someone help me figure out where this line in bleed magnitude of POB come from? Im trying figure out better dps on my Bleedmage, imported some ninjapoe2 profiles but I cant replicate this one.

[broken scroll]

Well, I could still get bleed on the target with thorns actually

[atomic halo]

as it says its aggravate

you need something that can aggravate you bleeds somewhere

[grand python]

isnt it Bloodmage aggrevate bleeds as default? that like isnt in my POB

[atomic halo]

you may need to tick aggravate in config

[grand python]

I thought so, but as I imported profile froma poeninja, configuration is default, without anything checked, same as my POB profile, literally they are all same, I copied tree to check if new tree is better, and there is only that line a difference, is it possible that POB is acting wiedly?

[hoary bolt]

depending on gear and gems it might automatically have it aggravated

just a pob import quirk

tick it on if you have a source

[grand python]

yea, that tick fixed it, thanks, line appeared in my POB, but its still shown in imported profile, where the tick is blank 🙂

[hoary bolt]

might be if the import has a curse idk

since bloodmage aggravate

[tropic onyx]

i wanna do a lightning arrow build what class would fit that? im hcssf

[mortal swift]

are you thinking multiple flicker casts or a single one with many power charges.

[mortal swift]

probs deadeye is what Ive seen often

[tropic onyx]

hmm okay! because i been only lightning wave monk since launch and i finally wanna change it up

[mortal swift]

apparently amazon is popular too

so you can look at both the ascendancies and decide perhaps

[brittle anvil]

pathfinder

[mortal swift]

LA pathfinder? Is there any synergy?

[brittle anvil]

nope

but they said hcssf

oh actually it's being played more than amazon

[tropic onyx]

how punishing is this game if u dont follow a build path?

[atomic halo]

great compared to poe1, not great compared to most other games

it's more about understanding fundamentals, like how to scale damage, defences etc.

[mortal swift]

not that punishing, but you do need to understand how stuff works

[atomic halo]

which, admittedly, isn't communicated very well by the game itself

[mortal swift]

I propose that people cant read

[cursive girder]

does anyone know -- can you anoint an amulet if its corrupted?

[hoary bolt]

Do you guys reckon its even possible to make Hailstorm Rounds good?

Like the numbers are just so horrifyingly bad

13 seconds to load 34 bolts of which only half will hit, and cumulatively add up to less damage than a single plasma blast shot

[crude pine]

yes

it doesn't build up at all

[crude pine]

just have 8 copies of hailstorm rounds 😄

but generally no, it would only be potentially good as a boss killer, but there are much better skills for that

[tropic onyx]

so even in early game should i be focusing certain rolls on gear? im sorry idk how minmax this gane can be

[mortal swift]

brother it was an or question dont say yes to it

[crude pine]

it's yes to both, so yes is sufficient

[mortal swift]

hmm former should work so I suppose that is a bug

[crude pine]

if you're doing an attack build, a high phys base damage is vital

a good weapon will be like 5x the damage of a bad one

[tropic onyx]

hmm im doing a aoe lightning archer build

[crude pine]

those skills are usually worded like "converts 60% of phys to lightning"

[tropic onyx]

well trying to im winging it because i feel like following a guide will take the fun out of learning the game

[tropic onyx]

i see and for rolls on weapons id wanna find like "adds 12-14 lightning damage"

[crude pine]

unfortunately with the way the game is currently balanced, maxing out the phys stat is better than every other attack scaling method (for prefixes)

[tropic onyx]

awhh

so basically with a lightning damage build i still focus all physical damage since it turns into lightning damage

[crude pine]

the added lightning might still be better in some scenarios though, I just use pob for comparisons

[crude pine]

For base damage yes (the one on the weapon)

For tree scaling you would do lightning/elemental damage

(convert applies before increased/more modifiers)

[tropic onyx]

i see thats a bit confusinf but ill figure it out, thank you!

[crude pine]

here's the full damage calculation if you'd like https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage

[tropic onyx]

oh thank you again! i appreciate it alot! thank you for being patient with me

[grim forge]

If I empower a mace attack like via infernal cry or temper weapon, and my mace attack has close combat on it. Does close combat also amplify the empower damage?

or would the close combat only scale the baseline mace damage

[stiff remnant]

Not sure what you ask here, I doubt it doubel dips, would guess its Mace attack or skill + all its modifiers = XX

XX + Infernal cry = new damage after buff.

[pearl sluice]

There is a staff and I am not sure what this means: Skills gain 1% of Damage as Chaos Damage per 3 Life Cost. What doe sit mean by gain chaos damage per life cost?

[woven depot]

the more life your ability spends the more extra chaos damage it gains

kinda requires you to spend life with skill casts, blood mage, blood magic etc

[crude pine]

Gain acts on the base damage of the attack, so instead of doing 500 phys damage you do (if you have 150% gain from a power maxxed infernal cry) 500 phys + 750 fire. Then all the other modifiers like increased, more (eg from close combat) apply. So yes

[dawn spire]

Infernal cry and temper weapon just gain a % of damage as fire and close combat is a %more attack damage multiplier. They stack multiplicatively.

So if you gain 50% of damage as fire from infernal cry, get 25% more damage from close combat, and deal 100 base attack damage, you'd deal 100 x 1.5 x 1.25 = 187.5 damage

[crude pine]

I would caveat this by saving that you may not have % increased fire damage on the tree, and enemies have a base fire resistance, so you will not get that much in practice

It's just a base modifier, the normal rules after base still apply

[dawn spire]

I will also add that this would not work for a support gem that granted %increased physical damage. But since close combat works on all attack damage, you're good

[pearl sluice]

if I was looking to convert elemental damage to chaos damage, what benefit would using something like Voltaxic Rift Bow which all lightning damage converts to chaos damage compared to using original sin ring which is 100% of elemental damage converted to chaos damage. Would there be any benefit to using both of these items or are they kind of doing the same thing in different slots?

[dawn spire]

Conversion past 100% doesn't do anything

[pearl sluice]

so all you really need is the ring

instead of wasting a weapon

[dawn spire]

Yeah, but I think that ring is wayyyyy harder to get a hold of, if I'm not mistaken

[pearl sluice]

ah ok

ah yeah its expensive af

[dawn spire]

I think that's the ring you can only get from doing a no-hit sekhema t4 run

[pearl sluice]

Good thing i played LS as my starter and did a lot of farming

whole point of my starter was to be able to test out 100 alts

[dawn spire]

Well get it now before the original sin sellers adjust their prices for inflation

[pearl sluice]

yeah

oof yeah its like 5-10 divs for a good roll

[toxic storm]

does this buff all my damage after hazard is triggered or it buffs the hazard damage?

[stiff remnant]

Sounds like its all damage, you could try going to config on POB, see if you can adjust anything related to hazard triggered and how many and see if it increase all damage or just that damage type.

I know like Incision etc, have so you can set amount of em in config.

[idle goblet]

Does someone know if its possible to decrease the Time between hits of BL from that 0.2" ?

[oblique marlin]

anyone figured out all missed classes names?

[static torrent]

We already know all of the classes, they were revealed in 2023

In no particular order, Templar, Druid, Marauder, Shadow and Duelist

In order, the icons match up to Marauder, Templar, Druid, Duelist and Shadow.

[lusty pike]

Would 2 of those rings apply 2 additional curses? would that raise the cap to 5 curses if equipped on lich with whisper of doom?

[manic jungle]

like the 5 full life bonus on Heartstopper, and the 2 chaos and 3 crit rate by Resonance

[half dagger]

The passives aren’t free, you still have to use your points to get them. If you still have them selected, you won’t be able to take the from nothing out of the jewel slot. You have to respec and remove those points from your tree first

So you’d have to respec every time you wanted to use the other from nothing

[manic jungle]

thanks I just dont have this stuff in game to try

[dawn spire]

yes

[vagrant elm]

Has anyone run stormwave monk with call of the brotherhood ring to convert to cold damage? I have a high lightning damage roll on my staff and would use charged staff and combat frenzy to help freeze and generate easy charges

[dawn spire]

there is still a 4-second delay. Capping it to 30 just makes it so you cannot accidentally get too much volatility and die

With instability, it has a 25% chance to give you that volatility back, but it still needs to wait 4 seconds to detonate again

[brisk crag]

Is the cold sorc better as stormweaver or chrono? Also, do you need snakepit for it to be viable?

[tropic onyx]

for rangers what defensive stats do i focus? like evasion armor or shield

[dawn spire]

depends on the build and which nodes you're near. Typically people tend to focus on evasion and energy shield, but you'll need a way to restore your ES if you go that route. Ghost dance is a common one

[tropic onyx]

hmm okay idk yet im currently new to the game but im going for a lightning arrow build

[dawn spire]

I don't know what you mean by "viable", but cold spell builds can do blood mage, chrono, stormweaver, infernalist, invoker, deadeye, pathfinder, and probably some others.

Chrono is more defensive, stormweaver is probably more damage with the shock nodes

snakepit doesn't seem like a necessity for any of those builds to work

[brisk crag]

Nice thanks m8

[dawn spire]

if you're in the campaign, focus on life and elemental resistances on gear and damage on the tree

[tropic onyx]

okayyyy thanks!

[dawn spire]

armor/evasion/es don't really help that much until like act 5 or later

es doesn't help much at all until you have a way to restore it reliably

[tropic onyx]

okayy! and should i be farming early bosses for better gear or just rush thru the acts?

[dawn spire]

I wouldn't do either of those

I'd go through the acts at your own pace but I wouldn't recommend refarming any areas/bosses

if your gear is feeling meh, give #1328202289755983932 a read and maybe go back for bonus map objectives you missed

The only zone that I think could ever possibly be worth refarming is the azak bog in act 3 since it comes with a built-in rarity buff for clicking on all the effigies

[tropic onyx]

hmm okay thank you! im sorry i ask so many questions!

[bright haven]

Can you only use hexblast on a curse you cast yourself?

Can you do like a blasphemy + curse to use hexblast?

[karmic geyser]

it used to work that way but was changed to not work anymore

stupid decision

[bright haven]

damnn man...

thats sadge

What happens if you have multiple curses on an enemy? If I have idk enfeeble being applied by blasphemy and despair being cast manually?

will I be able to hexblast the manually cast despair?

[karmic geyser]

yes

but by default you can only have one curse applied at a time

[bright haven]

I see, thx

[idle goblet]

What's the magnitude malus of blasphemy at level 20 ?

[static plinth]

41% less

40% less at level 21

[idle goblet]

wtf

that's a lot

[static plinth]

Thats the price for it being automatic

[lunar surge]

anyone know best place to farm rabid dog companion for haste aura?

[tropic onyx]

so should i build around one skill or can i do like one element? because i see alot of ppl building around lightning arrow but what if i wanna use all the lightning arrow abilities or is it just not optimal

[karmic geyser]

you can definitely do that

but there are only so many good support gems and you can only have one of each, so you still kind of have to pick one skill to be your main damage. use other skills to support it or to have some other utility

[graceful quarry]

Just got this. Do you think I should move on or keep pushing for a haste aura/hasted or haste aura/increased presence area of effect?

[karmic geyser]

thats really good already. all damage shocks is good for bossing if you dont already shock enemies

[graceful quarry]

I don't. I'm a lich who managed to work enough dex into the build to get a haste aura

The ice seems useful too, slowing enemies around him. I have to keep him lv9 so I'm not sure what the survivability will be on T15/16s. Hopefully he can live till I can kill everything

[tropic onyx]

ohh is that why? i see well idk what i like yet since i only seen lightning arrow and stormcaller arrow

[dawn spire]

A level 9 minion is going to get deleted instantly by basically any source of damage in a t15/16 map. Especially without +levels or minion life nodes on the tree

[manic jungle]

ive just been doing a fix of pathing to two random extra jewels with strength nodes...

[lunar surge]

gemling or tact for glacial bolt artillery totem

[mint summit]

ok what's going on here w/ flicker strike:

if you look all 8 power charges go away with the first hit, is this just how it does the natural charge consumption?

[dawn spire]

Yeah, it consumes all your power charges and does more attacks based on the amount consumed

[mint summit]

So the % chance to not consume charges applies at the beginning and all at once? I assumed it checked before each new teleport.

[dawn spire]

I think it checks whenever it consumes, which would just be one time when you first use it

[mint summit]

I’m at 74% chance to not use charges, most of the time I can go a seemingly arbitrary amount of teleports until I run out of nearby stuff and still have 8 charges remaining

Intriguing

[dawn spire]

Yeah, because you didn't consume remove any of those 8

74% of the time that's the case

[mint summit]

Well cool okay

Does that mean on bosses I basically have a 74% chance to just keep smackin?

[dawn spire]

Technically you consumed them, but they were not removed

Idk how it works in single target

Idk if you need multiple targets for it to strike all 17 times with 8 charges

[mint summit]

I haven’t noticed failing to hit many times on a boss yet

And afaik it will go more than 17 times

Need to test more I guess

[dawn spire]

From one use?

[mint summit]

I should actually count next time vs single target

[dawn spire]

it should be the initial attack and then two more strikes for each power charge consumed. With 8 charges that's 17

[mint summit]

yeah it’s probably doing that and I’ve just not been paying attention

I had made up a different way for it to work in my head 😎

[dawn spire]

17 is a lot to count at about 1.5x attack speed

No, sorry, closer to 2x

0.5 x 3.85 = 1.925 times base attack speed

[twin stream]

Is the sacred flame still worth getting or no havent played in a couple of weeks

[wide herald]

Does momentum work on flicker strike? It says "After moving 2 meters during a single use of a supported skill, gain 40% more damage" But it also says in the description that "Teleportation does not count towards the distance travelled". Flicker says that it teleports, but I see people using momentum anyways.

[novel cove]

Hey guys. I'm a bit confused how Salvo works with projectile spear attacks. I have it on glacial lance right now, it says "supported skills fire 2 additional projectiles per seal consumed". I have 3 seals total, I use glacial lance, so allegedly that should fire off 7 glacial lances, right? I'm only seeing one, however.

[dire cave]

read gem description

[novel cove]

Ahhhhhhh got it got it, thanks!

[dire cave]

how much intelligence is the minimum needed for hand of wisdom and action?

[mint summit]

you mean to equip it or have it be good?

[dire cave]

be good

600?

[static plinth]

There's not really a tipping point but id say at least 200

[mint summit]

you need to have the first charge distance be 2+ meters

you're right that the teleporting doesn't count, but if you charge from far enough back on the windup the boost applies to every hit

[wide herald]

Gotcha, thank you!

[dire cave]

I am preparing to switch into hand of wisdom and action so I am asking ahead of time

should get about 350-400 minimum

[mint summit]

ok who understands what supports function inside of Charged Staff? If I add elemental damage boost does it boost only its added damage, or all my damage with attacks while it's active?

[dire cave]

isnt that only added dmg since its a buff

[mint summit]

if I add freeze buildup support, will it apply to my attacks, or do nothing because it isn't freezing on its own?

[mint summit]

sounds possible, I just don't know how it decides what applies

[dire cave]

I would assume anything you add to charge staff only affects the buff

not your actual attacks

also a little side question would an attribute necklace be better alongside hand of wisdom and action or choir of the storm with ignoring lightning res and firing lightning bolt on crit?

[mint summit]

it also has the attack tag, and recommends stuff like maim, so i assume for those purposes (and on kill purposes) any attack buffed by the buff will count as "from" Charged Staff

is the attribute necklace astramentis

[dire cave]

if you where to slot in maim it would only trigger maim with attacks from the buff not your own

so in case of charge staff the added lightning damage and the little extra range attacks you get

[dire cave]

that is crazy expensive

talking about a normal attribute necklace

with a minimum of +50 int

[mint summit]

hm okay, how confident are you in this

[dire cave]

well if it works the same as elemental infusion on huntress then very but I can only assume

after all I dont play much quarterstaff

but the game is very reliant on descriptions unlike poe1

[mint summit]

hm ok I have learned a helpful piece of info by adding a cooldown to Charged Staff: the cooldown didnt stop me from using charged staff twice in a row, but it prevented any shockwaves until the cooldown was up, then it made 1 shockwave and they went away for another 8 seconds

so some supports are socketable and only have an effect on the shockwaves