2┃build-planning

[dawn spire]

I forget, did they change them to additive or multiplicative? I know they changed them but idk what they were initially

[pale hatch]

It's mostly for mobs. It allows me to actually run through mob wave without them hitting me.

Regular mobs get really slow in presense

Also my mana won't handle casting 2 curses manually

[mortal swift]

they made it additive to scale temporal chains with magnitude stuff

so curse mag and slow mag are additive on chains

so its harder to scale chains itself

[pale hatch]

Tooltip for slow shows "slows are always multiplicative with each other"

[dawn spire]

Yeah, if you're dead set on using temp chains with blasphemy then the weapon swap for curse nodes loses a ton of value since they won't help your temp chains

[dawn spire]

I see what's happening. All separate slows are multiplicative, yes, but the way temp chains, specifically, gets scaled got changed.

If you have 10% inc slow effect potency and 10% inc curse magnitude/effect, it used to give a 21% boost to temp chains. Now it's only a 20% since they're addivitve

But temp chains is still multiplicative with apex of the moment

[pale hatch]

I see

[dawn spire]

So if temp chains has a final slow of 20% and apex is also 20%, the enemy is slowed by 36%

[pale hatch]

Plus Hinder for movement speed only

[dawn spire]

True

[pale hatch]

Would taking the 11% damage as chaos damage be worth it? I know it doesn't affec dot, but would it apply to totem?

[dawn spire]

It would work for the totem, yeah, but idk if it's worth

But definitely get the wither effect. Those nodes are insane

Do you have 20% quality on dark effigy yet?

That's probably the biggest dps boost for your buck you can get for single target

[pale hatch]

I only have one curse node anyway. And small passives there are duration, which doesn't affect blasphemy. So I'd only lose 10% magnitude on temp chains if I do that. Probably worth it, but that's a lot annoying micro.

[dawn spire]

What micro? You mean weapon swapping for a curse?

Weapon swaps happen automatically

If you set your curse to weapon set 2 and everything else to 1, you'll swap to set 2 automatically when you cast the curse. Then you'll swap back when you use anything else

[pale hatch]

Wait, I don't know how to set that up? I though you press x, use skill, then press x again

[dawn spire]

There's a slight swap delay and that's it

[dawn spire]

That's the bad way to do it, yeah

If you select a gem in the gem panel, at the bottom there are check boxes for which set(s) that skill is assigned to

By default they're all assigned to both, if they can be

Set them all to 1 only and the curse to 2 only and you're golden

Well, spirit gems you want on both probably

[pale hatch]

Oh, I see now.
Do I need to actually have to use second weapon and focus? Or I can use both sets with the same weapon?

[dawn spire]

They have not yet added weapon swapping to the same weapon, unfortunately. So you'll need another set. It doesn't have to be the same type as your first one. Could be completely empty, could be a staff, could be a crossbow, whatever you want

I'd recommend something with cast speed and +to chaos gem levels

[pale hatch]

I'd also lose ES from having a worse focus.

[dawn spire]

Just for a moment, yeah

[pale hatch]

It doesn't come back after swapping

[dawn spire]

Unless you add es nodes to your weapon set 2 tree

[dawn spire]

You can rift it back I think

But yeah, that's kinda annoying

Maybe spec into some increased es from focus nodes on set 2

[pale hatch]

Huh, that does work.
Probably still not worth bothering for now, but once I get more currency for an actually decent second set I'll come back to the idea. Thanks.

[pale hatch]

Oh by the way, do multiple Hinders stack or only the strongest takes effect?

[dawn spire]

Buff/debuffs of the same name don't stack unless otherwise specified

[carmine sorrel]

Does anyone here that is experienced have 5-10 mins to jump in DM? I need help with my build, I am on Act 1 Cruel now. Ice Monk

[void osprey]

anyone running the Infernalist + Beiras Anguish build?
at what lvl did u transition from whatever levelling build u had to the actual build?

[unborn oracle]

Is there a way to reduce getting dismounted from Rhoa Mount? (yeah ofc getting hitte less)

[prisma sierra]

52

52 u can equip most of it besides the sceptre

transitioned to it at 56 with 3 blue gear(1-2) lines and was blasting through campaign

[void osprey]

are u running bijouborne belt?

[prisma sierra]

yes

[void osprey]

is it a big difference without it? since its lvl 78 minimum

[prisma sierra]

lvl 78?

[void osprey]

yeah

omg i just double check and u can get it with lvl 44 requirement

im cooked

[prisma sierra]

yeah it depends on roll?

i mean it still works

it does alot of dmg but u probably gotta play abit safer?

cause lesser uptime on ur beira

[void osprey]

ill make it work i guess haha, if you dont mind me asking are you following any specific guide?

[prisma sierra]

mhm i made my own from looking at 3 different youtuber and countless ones in poe.ninja

theres different variants

like wand sceptre or sceptre + shield

[void osprey]

ooo thats cool, how much does it total up to price wise?

[prisma sierra]

really up to u

[prisma sierra]

ngl u can make it work with just pragmatism and bijuo

can increase further if you want alpha howl

i went crazy and added chernobog

[void osprey]

ahh i see

[prisma sierra]

but yeah just the belt and armour is fine

then just stack hp+mana + attributes/res

[void osprey]

okok i guess ill rebuy a new bijouborne

[static plinth]

So this is just theory, but this should be a pretty good build right? Did they ever fix barrier invocation loops?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/a65ku0ik

Ball lightning not necessarily the go-to

But Scold's + >100% recoup + Sancrosanctum + Barrier Invocation should lead to some complete nonsense if im not mistaken

Get like 10k ES, detonate your ES with Scold's + Barrer Invocation, regen like 1.2k ES a second due to recoup, do it again because the damage from Scold's recharged barrier invocation, and you have free cooldown convalescences because you're a Chronomancer

Even if they patched Barrier Invocation loops, i think itll still be pretty good, since you can charge BI with a normal spell pretty quick, hell just cast a curse twice

Issue is solving for mana, but if you get a corrupted 120% Scold's and some mana recoup, even that might be easily solvable

Hell, there's 20% mana recoup on tree as an anoint

[oblique marlin]

hey mate what about curses for -resistance, use -chaos res or -fire?

[rich creek]

Can yall give advice/ opinions on this build I’ve been cooking. I’ve been looking into a rage build with smith of kitava, death articulated(unique gauntlets), and things that pair with those, like armour, rage, and life/leech nodes. Some other gear like horns of Byron would synergize well, which could benefit from the spirit gem berserk. Still working on the build tho since my warrior isn’t high enough to equip death articulated so I can’t fully battle test it yet.

[static plinth]

Use Despair for - chaos res

And obviously make sure you get Withered, since thats basically why you use blackflame

[mint summit]

I’m doing death articulated and berserk, you’ll have to figure out whether you want to be net positive on passive life regen or rely fully on leech + flasks. It’s a challenge to hit positive regen with both gauntlets and berserk on, especially with max rage nodes from the tree. Nice damage though.

[oblique marlin]

tested, not working
that burning groud from curse can not ignite or damage the caster in any way

[dawn spire]

Enemy res only cares about the type being dealt, so lowering chaos res would help with blackflame

[dawn spire]

Yeah I was like 99.5% sure it wouldn't. Rip. Have you considered scold's bridle and taking damage as fire from cloak of flame and dealing enough to ignite yourself?

[rich creek]

I’m planning for smith of kitava to help with balancing the regen, one of the nodes are 5% max life per sec. And I’m leaning more towards leech than flasks with Vaal pact, since berserk would probably shine with that

[manic kite]

if your mainly on this bottom half of the skill treewhat re your good defense options? any good armour evasion options?

[mint summit]

I haven’t tried Vaal pact but leech has felt quite nice in maps

[oblique marlin]

will try. amount of fire damage not important, only frequency?

i.e. will pick uniues with lowest percentages

[dawn spire]

What build are you playing? There are some decent block nodes to go with armor and evasion. I don't really know of any stand-out evasion nodes since I haven't really been in that part of the tree. If you have giga evasion, acrobatics is very good

[oblique marlin]

may be need to also find a passive/item that lowering my own ailment threshold

[dawn spire]

Important for what? Inflicting ignite?

[oblique marlin]

yes

[dawn spire]

If so, the size of the hit is directly correlated to ignite chance

(and magnitude)

The more fire damage you take from the hit compared to your ailment threshold, the more likely you are to be ignited

[unborn oracle]

Can someone explain me PLEASE, why out of 6 Citadel I did, 2 were completly free with hard mods ( I just took most wys chance out of the shop) and the 4 after the first 2 succesfully cleared, clearing map-> easy, Map Boss -> one shot... rlly one shot me and map over... even tho (after the first 2 I completed) I looked for easy Maps with less mods

Is the Citadel getting harder after you succesfully completed one or w/e I rlly don´t get it...

[oblique marlin]

tried many times, not working, and i have a feeling that its not converting phys damage that was dealt by tiara to fire

[halcyon perch]

The regurgitating vulture's projectile has the "Is area damage" but it doesn't have an "area" tag on top so it doesn't get scaled by inc aoe right? because its decompose has the "area" tag and I can see the change when I put in the magnified effect but not on the projectiles, but maybe it has a small aoe and I just don't notice it,so I want confimation

[hollow galleon]

does bludgeon work with any skill, giving it knock back?

[dawn spire]

You could test it by dramatically changing your fire res between casts and checking how much damage you take

[white viper]

does this also affect spell damage?

[halcyon perch]

it works with most skills, like it doesn't work with stampede because it felt too smooth in 0.1 and we can't have smooth gameplay kek

[hollow galleon]

know any spell it can work well with?

[halcyon perch]

well if you just need that spell for knockback then probably something that hits multiple times or very fast, like eye of winter or incinerate

[hollow galleon]

tried with incinerate but didnt work

maybe cause its channeled or something

[halcyon perch]

if you have enough cast speed maybe bonestorm or unearth?

[hollow galleon]

oh it works with bonestorm

[oblique marlin]

yes i tested on different difficulties, and indeed it works, less damage in act1 than in act6

[rigid socket]

So when my energy shield gets knocked out, something is giving it one or two points of regeneration immediately before the recharge delay. This means it's never zero. So with eternal life I get hit knocks out my energy shield. Then the next hit kills me because I can't heal because the energy shield is immediately back up to one or two points

Everything I read says your energy shield stays at zero until the recharge delay, but something is giving me like 10 points of energy shield before the delay is over. So there's never a time I can heal

[midnight obsidian]

do you have recoup

or some other gain from skills

[rigid socket]

Yeah probably my lich build has recoup but why would it have both recoup and eternal life??

Yeah I have glazed flesh

[rigid socket]

Yep that fixed it thank you

[oblique marlin]

do we have somewhere list of all monster modifiers we can steal by ritual or as companion? with numbers of auras, etc etc? can be useful for some build planning

[crimson juniper]

So now that a few days have passed, how did the ripwire ballista experiment go? So far AB tactician is going well but I'm taking it ultra slow

[dawn spire]

I leveled with rakestomp and ascended to warbringer. I picked the totem node and tried ripwire. It was mega ass.

Then I ended up doing shockwave totem with rake to supplement. Rake started to fall off. Screen was cluttered as all hell, shockwave totems are still wayyy too visually noisy. Plus the spirits from the totems meant I just hated it. It was too cluttery, lagged me, and was too risky. I got to act 3 and now I'm rerolling a blood mage that I'm gonna do ice spells with. just ascended

artillery ballista tactician sounds like heaven compared to my warbringer experiment lmao

game keeps trying to make me go fire spells tho

[crimson juniper]

Ahhh damn what a shame. I was enjoying shockwave on my smith before I got to AB but I can see how any further with it could get really high on clutter.

One thing I love about SSF is when you get something incredible like that it actually makes you think about trying a build that could use it instead of just instant selling it to fuel your main build

I wonder if they fixed the double ember fusilade build or if it could use that

[dawn spire]

what do you mean by fixed and what do you mean by double ember fusillade?

[crimson juniper]

Double ember fusilade like using two copies of ember fusilade alternating to just shit fireballs in the direction of the enemy
Fixed like did they look at the interaction between wild shards and ember fusilade that was letting it get full fireballs with one click consistently as long as you didn't let them all fire out

[dawn spire]

I guess I'll test it

[ornate anvil]

Is this how ailment magnitude works?
Poison base magnitude: 20% of phys and chaos damage on HIT

Considering a 100 damage phys hit
Poison damage: 20

with 50% magnitude
Poison magnitude now 30% of hit
Poison damage: 30

[crimson juniper]

I think jungroan was the one with a video on it. It seemed like a super fun/weird playstyle that used titan to get even lower duration so fusillade fires crazy fast

[dawn spire]

pretty much, yeah. I wouldn't say the magnitude is now "30% of the hit", but rather that 20 base poison dps is now 50% stronger

@ornate anvil

[ornate anvil]

isnt that the same 🤔

[dawn spire]

in this example, yes

[ornate anvil]

shit now i think theres some fundamental im not getting

do you know an example where it would not mean 30% of hit in this case? where 50% stronger would mean a different result

[dawn spire]

no you pretty much have it. The way you worded it sounded off to me and I've been wracking my brain trying to think of an example where it would be misleading/incorrect to word it as such

but I'm coming up blank

[ornate anvil]

ahh ok

Byron while i have your attention

do you know how this node works?

[dawn spire]

yes

[ornate anvil]

like, if i drop a grenade in a boss

and i have 2 max poisons

it applies the two stacks, so 20% increased duration

but iirc it keeps reapplying

does it acount for that?

gas grenade/gas arrow

[dawn spire]

I don't know the specifics of how those poison gas skills work, unfortunately

[ornate anvil]

or even like, if i use a skill that has 100% poison

like normal crossbow shot

[static plinth]

They apply constantly

[ornate anvil]

2 max poisons

if i shot twice, it covers all my poisons

[static plinth]

So youd get the 100% inc duration pretty quick

[ornate anvil]

so 20%

[dawn spire]

how often is "constantly"? like, every server tick?

[ornate anvil]

but if i shoot a third time

does it count as a new poison?

so 30% now

[static plinth]

Definitely not every tick, but im not sure. Probably based on the AS of the skill

[ornate anvil]

or is it based on the amount of stacks you can have

[dawn spire]

Yes. Even if you're not actually inflicting a poison strong enough to overwrite an existing poison stack on an enemy, it's still inflicted and it's still on the enemy, just inactive

[ornate anvil]

interesting

freaking strong node then lol

[dawn spire]

kinda, I guess lol

if you can't maintain 100% poison uptime

[ornate anvil]

thats pretty much guaranteed with gas granade/arrow

[dawn spire]

right, so why do you need poison duration then?

[ornate anvil]

for snipe

bigger hit

[dawn spire]

oh, I see

[ornate anvil]

bigger duration

yea

[dawn spire]

neato

[ornate anvil]

but the idea is to use

gas grenade + the snipe from crossbow

forgot the name

use corrosion to destroy armor

and it consumes to do more damage

[dawn spire]

high velocity

[ornate anvil]

yep thats the one

now ill try to calculate

if its better to go to that side of the tree

which is pretty far if youre going mercenary

or just scale hit

[dawn spire]

I might steal that idea for my warbringer

[ornate anvil]

the quality on high velocity

[dawn spire]

well, maybe I'd change it to a titan or something lol. Warbringer seems pretty useless for it

[ornate anvil]

(0–20)% more Projectile Damage after Piercing an Enemy

so i would need

something in front of the boss

for that to apply right?

like ice crystals etc

[dawn spire]

depends on how strict the game is with the term "enemy"

[final dragon]

Ok guys I'm looking for a mercenary build for my friend. Something controller friendly and easy. Any ideas?

[static plinth]

Is Hulking Form generically good?

[atomic halo]

yes

it's worth the 4 pts

its like the only reason anyone goes titan

[cinder apex]

Do you think mjolner, choir of the storm warbringer with thorns would be viable?

[atomic halo]

niche x niche x niche x niche = probably not?

[cinder apex]

Thank you

[potent atlas]

Hello, I use essentia sanguis and I use life steal on the weapon. But the gloves don't charge the energy shield

[midnight obsidian]

are you dealing any damage that can leech (physical by default)

[potent atlas]

lightling spear does make 500-1000 dmg physical damage

[static plinth]

You're likely leeching single digit life

5% or so of 20%

And only hitting a single target

[timid lava]

Guys I’m new to the game and just wanted easy fun experience what would you recommend for character choice? Especially for endgame 👋

[static plinth]

Does Barbs support work as if it was Added Physical Damage or is it a separate instance of damage and thus isnt affected by things like skill DE?

[atomic halo]

pretty sure it's just a thorns trigger

as if they had hit you

[static plinth]

[atomic halo]

it's almost certaintly not copius amounts of flat phys to attacks for free

[static plinth]

Was hoping to use it with Splinter of Loratta, c'est la vie

[uncut trout]

So for my first 2 deadeye ascendancy points, I should just run tailwind right?

Seems like the best bang for my buck with just 2 points

[valid umbra]

Does anyone know if anything affects the attack distance of artillery ballista?

[broken scroll]

I don't believe so

What are you trying to do?

[valid umbra]

move farther away from my ballista without having to recast it.

[broken scroll]

Yeah, I figured that much. But I was just curious on why or what your build is like

Are you clearing so fast where you out pace them?

[valid umbra]

yeah, I'm running a ballista/grenade build. I pretty much put the ballista down with an oil/gas grenade and walk away and everything melts.

But the ballista is very mana intensive.

[broken scroll]

Gotcha. I have a ballista build, but I revolves around staying around the ballista.

But what id recommend trying is doing large pulls and rounding everything up, then place/clear

Or pull then run back to ballistas

Are you playing tactician?

[valid umbra]

yeah. the pinning nodes are crazy good so far.

[broken scroll]

Yeah so, I recommend looking into siege cascade. It does 250% more DMG against pinned targets, and because of the pin nodes, you passively will pin then hit huge dmg

You essentially become the ballista

[valid umbra]

huh. that's not a bad idea. I'll check it out.

[broken scroll]

Also run it with shard scavenger, with + duration nodes. And use nades to break armor to get unlimited clip on repeat

[frigid pawn]

For Danse Macabre Do both offerings have to stay alive or once it pops so long as one stays up its good?

[broken scroll]

If u really want to get crazy, slap on the fire to cold gloves with porc ring with herald of ice. Everything explodes

My old build setup was I'd use 2 flash grenades, 1 to break armor on stun, and the other to consume broken armor. Flash grenade stuns easy and has quick fuse. This would turn on shard scavenger buff, with +skill effect gem and nodes, the buff lasts 4.5 seconds. So 4.5 seconds of unlimited shooting, then you can use nades to break and consume armor again.

So you have unlimited clip majority of the time

[digital girder]

i know not exactly "build planning" but i just got a mirror drop and idk what of these 2 would be better.
Any advice appreciated

[broken scroll]

You got a mirror drop, huh. That's something most Poe players will never get to say

[broken scroll]

Hmu in DMs tho if you want more tips or build ideas for tactican, I've explored it a ton.

[digital girder]

im considering myself very blessed. first ever in both gamkes

[broken scroll]

I think glacial bolts is the strongest crossbow move. Very very over looked lol

[mint summit]

Blew my mind that the ice shatter is based on attack damage

I want to figure out how to use that without actually speccing into cold damage / pen, probably the answer is just for mapping

[broken scroll]

I have no cold DMG spec and I clear T15 easy

Can send a video later

With glacial bolts

[weak rain]

would you prefer tactician over witchhunter?

[broken scroll]

Yes

[weak rain]

witchhunter feels like playing merc with zero changes

gotcha yeah i thought so

[broken scroll]

Lol, yeah.. I mained wh last season

And I didn't have the blessing to swap

Biggest issue of glacial bolts is the walls don't auto break on small mobs

But they do on medium size/large mobs

So you just spam fire it and they explode

[weak rain]

would tact be viable w/ galvanic shards?

[mint summit]

I tested cast on freeze ice mark with those

Seemed funny

[broken scroll]

To fix them not blowing up on small mobs, you just use the totem

Artillery ballista

[broken scroll]

Yeah

[weak rain]

nicee okok

[broken scroll]

Tact is viable with any projectile based build

Pinning is very strong

[mint summit]

I feel like I would have the same problem I did mapping with artillery ballista which is it’s slow to move through a map dropping stationary totems

I think I would feel that with ice walls as well

[broken scroll]

How fast you wanting to move lol?

[mint summit]

fast as possible in maps

[broken scroll]

Idk what you consider slow, but to me it seems fast. Obviously not as fast and clearing everything in 1 button press. But if you want that, then just do Amazonian

[mint summit]

Especially now that we can see rares up front, I think we could be getting pretty fast. I tested Fallen Formation + the move speed banner and the node that lets you keep banner buffs for a few seconds

[broken scroll]

I just run through the maps honestly lol. Place totems if I need to, to explode the walls due to small mobs, other wise I'm just blasting and running

Also if u put scatter shot on glacial bolts, it self breaks on itself

Still creates a wall

But it's more broken and explodes on impact generally

I'll send a video in a bit

May be slow by others stands, but I don't normally run insane clear builds

[weak rain]

did you start a new build or did you respec your witchhunter into tactician?

i only ask cause i’m not sure how much easier i’ll die without sorcery ward

[broken scroll]

I played WH all last season, and sorc ward was way worse

So idk how good it is now. But if you have 80% EV and capped resistances and decent clear, you should be fine

[weak rain]

ohh right i forgot they changed it

[broken scroll]

i generally am not a fan of picking an ascendency just for a defensive perk

if smith didnt have temper wep, id never play it

[weak rain]

same i chose witchhunter solely on how cool the icon looked

[broken scroll]

lmao no worries, i did that too on season 1

[weak rain]

had no clue the passives sucked

[broken scroll]

i think WH is supposed to use swords

and they arent out yet

thats why the have the extra wep set nodes

just makes no sense to really need that many atm

so WH is just unfinsihed to me

[weak rain]

oh yeah true i always thought that branch was useless

[broken scroll]

I normally don't run maps like this lol.. I usually loot most the stuff and craft stuff. But this is as fast as I could go. I have very bad gear btw. Probably less than a div or 2 (not trading but I use currency exchange, except for uniques)

[broken scroll]

You can also run what I'm doing on WH and it be almost as good, just won't pin, which is helps a good bit, but technically doesn't add damage

The main thing is just glacial bolts and pork ring, that's the core of it. And then artillery ballista to help explode the walls that don't explode from small mobs

Oh and herald of ice (obviously)

[sacred pelican]

How do I import my character to pob2? I authorized it, it shows as retrieved but can't see my passive tree or items

[verbal surge]

I was thinking about starting the whirling slash build - I have a question in regards with the boots: movement speed isn't needed right since you blast around the map with whirling slash?

[solar walrus]

is there any value in using despair with the sacred flame sceptre or should i just run the rhoa

[remote narwhal]

Anyone know if endless circuit and spreading shocks work together

[remote narwhal]

Eh whirling slash is kinda slow. But yea

You wouldn't really need it

[fallen mirage]

can anyone suggest a good class build for a rarity support class?

[woven depot]

Ritualist

[tribal dew]

Is there an any way to use a mana flask automatically? Or do I always have to press it

[carmine sorrel]

Does Attack Speed impact Ice Strike?

Or is it Cast Speed?

[carmine sorrel]

You have to press it

[tribal dew]

but i could make it automatic in poe1. we lost the technology thanks

[spice girder]

whats the best ascendancy for making a rarity aurabot?

[static torrent]

Read the tags on the skill, it will say whether it's an Attack or Spell.

[static torrent]

Pretty sure only Utility Flasks were possible to automate using Instilling Orbs, and the replacement for those Flasks, Charms, are automated by default.

[idle goblet]

What are the best support gems for BL/Warp ?

[topaz fog]

hey guys, I've been leveling Witch with minions but it's kinda lame. What can I just gigablast the campaign with as Witch?

[jaunty ridge]

Hi, I just updated the game for new league
What character should I create??
I want some thing fast and strong

[inland spear]

What's a good place to share a build and ask for feedback? 🤔

[mint summit]

If I have 70 dex and Enhanced Effectiveness, and blind on hit, and I want to be generally hitting within 2 meters, do I need to realistically care about accuracy? I have resolute technique right now but I’m wondering if that’s not needed, anyone know accuracy math well enough to give me an idea?

[atomic halo]

pob it

just pob it

[mint summit]

Yeah I’ll put stuff in in two days when I have a computer again. Do they have presets for various bosses/pinnacles in there?

I lost my first 0.2 citadel to evasive doryani lol

[atomic halo]

they have a preset for "guardian/pinnacle" but idk if it's even accurate

you can set monster evasion in pob

[keen leaf]

Hey i have a question about shock magnitude, is it worth stacking? If i see on the boss for example 40% of shock, does that mean i deal 40% inc damage to the shocked target or how does it scale precisly?

[oak juniper]

anyone familiar with ghost dance around?

[mint summit]

It’s worth scaling when possible (rather than scaling your damage) because it’s effectively a more multiplier on damage

[atomic halo]

it adds to "increased damage taken" on the enemy side

which is additive with itself

but because it's a separate stat from "increased damage" on your side, it isn't additive with that

so it's overall an additional multiplier

[near jewel]

guys, is SSF p[osible in POE2? what would be the best build for ssf?

I tried ONCE ssf in poe1 - lacerate of hemorrage bleed glad and loved it - did all stones a dn all fav slots.

[mint summit]

Yes ofc possible, you can check poe2ninja for some builds of high level ssf players or you can just try to find builds that are less specifically gear-reliant

[near jewel]

but how can I get for example +5 or 6 to all melee skills on maces? it just PURE luck.

like playing damn lottery

in poe1 it was a bit more deterministic

[atomic halo]

[near jewel]

u mean gamble away all da gold 😉

[static plinth]

The highest AS mace skill is the default damn strike, right?

[lime narwhal]

just wanna make sure cos im a beeg number sucker. with tangle tongue I shouldn't be too concerned with the sheet dps number correct? I have a pretty pogger spiked spear I've been using until now that I've gone over to the monk side and grabbed the extra crit/es stuff. spear is attached here and is about 30k more sheet dps

[atomic halo]

pob it

[lime narwhal]

tbh I battle with that app

can you import everything now?

[atomic halo]

yeah, you can import by character now

[lime narwhal]

last time i tried it was missing a bunch of stuff

[atomic halo]

do it if you want a sure answer

[lime narwhal]

i'll give it a shot, but was wondering if theres a general sentiment around it

[atomic halo]

it probably doesnt account for forked crits properly?

so tangle is probably still much better?

[lime narwhal]

yeah thats what im thinking, tbh it doesnt feel much different in general mapping

might just use one of my invites as a test, got like 5 audiences just chilling

[mint summit]

Oh shit I missed that, thanks

[lime narwhal]

seems like tangle is a massive boost from what i can see. I also loaded up some videos from creators and all of their sheet dps is actually lower than mine when in reality they are dealing WAY more than me with the spiked spear

[supple vapor]

hi

Anyone here that can help me setup a "cast on" build?

I really cant get it to work

[atomic halo]

what exactly is not working

you need to be a little more specific

[hasty nebula]

how do you get wither to factor into pob damage?

[austere reef]

Is there an option for wither in the configuration tab?

[atomic halo]

seen this asked before and i dont think there is a way for pob to recognize sources of wither properly, just put in "nearby enemies take #% increased chaos damage" in config

[hasty nebula]

in config? where is that?

[supple vapor]

I'm not getting a lot of energy build up, so just wondering how to make it work, it does make sense i'm not getting a lot of energy because I don't have anything infested into ignite magnitude or energy build up

[static plinth]

Add a dark effigy skill with Quality and the withered config will show up in the config menu

[hasty nebula]

ahh

[static plinth]

PoB doesnt recognize Withering Presence or the wither from the tree node rn

Dark effigy with quality is the easiest thing to make it show up

[supple vapor]

The thing is, I don't have a lot to infest into it, perhaps I can take one full energy build up spiral, and just some ignite build up, like 20% on jewels

[atomic halo]

seems you already know what you need

your triggering hit needs to be dealing a lot of damage in the first place

[supple vapor]

My triggering hit, so for example fire wall?

[atomic halo]

does that deal a lot of damage?

this is cast on ignite, right?

[supple vapor]

yeah

[atomic halo]

key line "modified by the percentage of the enemy's Ailment Threshold the Ignite will deal"

[static plinth]

Flame Wall is pretty meagre

[atomic halo]

flame wall ignites but deals like no damage

so your energy gain will be tiny

[supple vapor]

Ah ok

[static plinth]

Its not total.garbage since it can be scaled normally but its real small since its guaranteed

[supple vapor]

So im better off using a strong spell + increase chance to ignite supports on it?

[static plinth]

I think Solar Orb is a bit better for a similar experience, but ideally you want to ignite with bigger spells

[supple vapor]

I'm playing a demon form build, with around 1500% spell damage at maximum stacks, so i'm currently not infested into anything but life regen

Just using bone storm rightn ow

and wondering if I can switch to a better spell

Or cast on build

[crude pine]

If you have 100% crit chance, critical fork is equivalent to “100% more critical damage bonus”

So you can put that in custom modifiers

[supple vapor]

Any suggestion for big spell?

[static plinth]

Flameblast is as big as you can get but its got a long cooldown

Comet is slow and needs you to wear a unique or be an Infernalist

[supple vapor]

im playing infernalist

[static plinth]

Man spells feel kinda sad

[plain cloud]

Hey, what's the best ascendancy for a Thorns build right now ?

[static plinth]

Fireball is probably fine for it

[supple vapor]

Can you explain why you would need to be an infernalist?

[austere reef]

I haven’t looked at any thorns builds yet but if I were to guess off first thoughts, maybe smith of kitava because they can easily build up to 90 all res. But I could be completely wrong here and there may be another ascendancy I haven’t looked into yet that builds into thorns nicely

[static plinth]

Comet deals cold damage

So you need to wear Three Dragons, Blueflame Bracers, or be an Infernalist with All Damage Can Ignite

[supple vapor]

You mean bringer of flame

[hasty nebula]

This worked thanks. What about malice stacks?

[supple vapor]

I tried with contagion essence drain but that didnt give ignite build up

[static plinth]

Look for the "Enemy is Critically Weak?" Config, should already be there

[static plinth]

Cuz ignites dont buildup and ED is pretty middling damage with hits

[hasty nebula]

holy crap, critical weakness is strong!

is there any way to reduce the "interval" (on withered) or "frequency" (on malice)?

[static plinth]

Yeah its pretty bonkers

[static plinth]

Levels of the gem

Test Fast Forward support too but i dont think it affects it

[hasty nebula]

it does not

[static plinth]

Quality also lowers it

[hasty nebula]

really? quality just mentions duration

[static plinth]

Oh mb

But also duration will make your max stacks sustained higher in a different way

[hasty nebula]

thats correct

does quality on a weapon that grats malice improve the quality of the skill like it was a gem?

[static plinth]

Yes

[hasty nebula]

my pob calc seems a little off from my in game calc, like 29 dmg of 2000 or something. are these kinds of little variations expected/acceptable or is something not configured right?

[static plinth]

Is it from a conditional source of damage, maybe?

Like "10% inc damage against blinded enemies" or something wont show up in-game, but it would in PoB

[hasty nebula]

oh maybe thats a good point. POB is lower than in game though

[static plinth]

Peculiar

[hasty nebula]

actually my total mana is off which is maybe throwing off the calc... wait no cause my mana is higher in POB for some reason

[atomic halo]

maybe something random like armour

[hasty nebula]

nvm fixed the mana problem cause of level, somehow my levels were off from investing skill points

[ruby forum]

what offhands can i run with a spear?

i wanted to do one hand mace and spear

but its not possible

[static plinth]

Anything that isnt a weapon

Shield, Buckler, Focus, Sceptre

Or empty hand and use Dance With Death

[ruby forum]

ok

thank you vm

[feral heath]

Are there any cracked ice infernalist demon form builds from this season?

[near jewel]

guys, ssf kitava, totems will be okk just to do tier 1 bosses?

or maybe u have some fool-proof, noob-proof build for kitava?

[ruby forum]

i i get 121% of elemental damage converted to something else

does it do something?

or does it cap at 100

[atomic halo]

no

it gets scaled down to 100%

but if you have another source of conversion to another type it will influence the scaled down ratios

like 100% phys->cold + 200% phys -> light = 33/66 cold/light

[ruby forum]

aight

thank you

[jolly iris]

Is there any tech with the silver unique charm (onslaught on slow)? Randomly chanced one and kinda wondering if there are ways to make it more usable

[pale hatch]

Help me with Essense Drain support gems please. I got Chain, Considered Casting and Swift Affliction but I'm at a loss for what to add in the last 2 links.

[steep grotto]

Does anyone have a build for exploding spear that isnt changing into something else later?

[rapid star]

got this guide for cold snap on mobalitics... and the guy is using frost bomb as main skill instead of frost bolt... and i can't figure out why

[fierce sluice]

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1liru1tkrapfe/Kusumoto-2337/LuckiRanger
Any immediate things I can do to improve my build? I currently have around 3 DIV to work with
I am blasting t15s no problem and just farming currency/getting my atlas points

[dire lagoon]

Does anyone know if crown of eyes works with arcane intensity?

[fierce sluice]

Was energy shield just required in POE1 as well, or is there a really bad imbalance currently in the game with it?

[atomic halo]

no, it wasn't nearly this imbalanced in poe1.

the main difference is that in poe1, you can get % inc life on the tree. endgame characters would have 3.5k-4.5k life, even non-str classes.

[fierce sluice]

ahhhh this makes sense

[mint summit]

Im bummed that I still feel incentivized to go for ES as a merc in 0.2

[fierce sluice]

idc I am using full evasion and having fun either way, I dont mind getting one shot randomly it doesnt really bother me now that I have my ascendancy points I care about

[mint summit]

Like, I’m not going to go use ES but the pull is very strong

[fierce sluice]

I tried POE and it is just way too much and a little dated for me, I am gonna keep supporting this game and just trusting that GGG locks in and makes it amazing

[small grove]

was trying to do a sorceress that uses fire, ice and lightning. It feels almost impossible. Are there any builds that actually use all 3 elements?

[midnight obsidian]

painter's servant builds use all 3 (at 33%)

[static plinth]

Not really cuz scaling all 3 at once is hard

[midnight obsidian]

the reason those builds aren't too popular is because most classes can only use a single copy of any support gem

[static plinth]

That too

We do have Elemental Conflux, Trinity, and Elemental Equilibrium

[night shadow]

Why I got the impression that Rapture Support Gem do activate on Bloodhound's Mark? Anyone else playing a spear blood build and can confirm this?

[floral granite]

anyone know how Snakepit works with the extra ring slot from Ritualist?

[atomic halo]

its not left

and its not right

so it just doesnt do anything unique

[floral granite]

makes sense

thanks

[midnight obsidian]

to assert dominance you should run thief's torment in the extra ring slot

[static plinth]

Kalandra's Touch also only works in your normal 2 slots right

[floral granite]

ventors gamble -40% x3

[static plinth]

If youre not being facetious id only run 2 and use an ingenuity, gets you to like -160

[wraith palm]

does anybody know fi there's a way to make yourself take cold damage, kinda similar to the fireflower amulet?

[static plinth]

No

You can chill yourself via gimmicks though

Not good ones

[wraith palm]

ah alright. thakns bro

[ashen jackal]

Hey, do u guys now whay the best build to go for with invoker in endgame?

[wraith palm]

flickerstrike is the most fun by far, and if built right, has the highest damage potential

not invoker based i guess, but can be

[atomic halo]

scold's bridle + that notable that gives 5% taken as phys of a random element

[static plinth]

Oh i didnt think about that

[uncut trout]

What would you guys suggest my first 4 points in deadeye should be?

Right now I have 2 and I'm running tailwind as LS deadeye, but when I get 4 I wonder if the extra projectile is the strat

[static plinth]

Build?

oh LS

[midnight obsidian]

ls gets extra bolt not an extra spear from endless munitions

how is your frenzy charge generation right now?

[uncut trout]

Yeah I saw, that's why I'm asking. If it was an extra spear it wouldn't be a question

[uncut trout]

Got kitoko and combat frenzy so I'm good

[static plinth]

Is reduced attribute reqs on a sceptre a global stat, since they dont have any reqs?

[karmic geyser]

no

scepters do have stat requirements

[atomic halo]

when global it says "equipment and skill gems..."

[static plinth]

So PoB just doesnt have their stat reqs for some reason

[karmic geyser]

it looks like that item was made manually in pob

"new item"

[static plinth]

It was, but off this

[karmic geyser]

it doesnt even have an item level, so it cant determine the requirements

hence why the malice skill says level (1-20)

[atomic halo]

thats weird though, now that i look at it

so the red. attr req affects the req that actually comes from a skill?

[karmic geyser]

are you trying to reproduce an in-game item in PoB? you can just crtl+c the item in-game and paste into pob

[karmic geyser]

no

[static plinth]

Can you Ctrl+C off of trade

[atomic halo]

on trade it says " Requires Level 31, 24 Str, 56 Int " etc.

[karmic geyser]

I don't believe so, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong

[gusty barn]

levels lower the the frequency

[static plinth]

If a spectre summons minions, and those minions die, can i use corpse skills on those minions, or do they not leave a corpse?

[ruby forum]

bro how does proximal intagibility work

i legit cant hit this last rare mob

i cant continue my sekhemas run

[zenith sierra]

gotta get close

[pale hatch]

Would "5% damage is taken from mana before life" neutralize "5% damage bypasses energy shield"? Or it'd only affect 5% of those 5%.

[karmic geyser]

5% of 5%

[pale hatch]

Ty. Regrettable.

Spells started costing way too much to run MoM XD

[cedar aspen]

Hi. What’s the recommended support gems for Temp Chains on Blasphemy?

Currently I have ritualistic curse and emcumbrance

[ruby forum]

i was standing on him

i just left and rejoined

thanks anyways

[frigid pawn]

How important is getting max chaos res on my minions? Should I make this detour?

[uncut trout]

I've seen vids of people with 7 frenzy charges. How do I achieve this?

[frigid pawn]

These three highlighted big nodes on the tree will get you up to 7. Though they probably had some equipment

[uncut trout]

Thanks!

[median wharf]

they dont let u press shift over passive tree to see damage increase anymore?

[dawn spire]

It was pretty broken. I'm not sure if they disabled it intentionally or not. I don't remember reading about it in the patch notes

[median wharf]

gotcha, thx

[broken scroll]

Import your build to pob

[median wharf]

Oh it can directly import now?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[broken scroll]

Yep

[median wharf]

Nice 👍, will mess with it tmr, thanks

[twilit jackal]

hello, can you use tangle forked spear with CI?

it says 10% cost to hp, but CI puts you at 1hp, not sure how they interact?

[atomic halo]

if you can't pay the cost to use a skill, you can't use the skill.

so with CI, any skill that costs mana (and therefore life) would be unusable

you'd have to use default spear throw if you really wanted to use CI

[twilit jackal]

oh rip lol, so I guess if I wanna pair CI with LS on monk I'd have to use searglass spear

thks

[red compass]

is there any viable cold build especially comet? always a fan of meteor thimgy

[mortal swift]

does this only mean +- dmg% or do the flat dmg modifiers add to it too?

[karmic geyser]

flat damage no
%increase yes

[mortal swift]

whats even the point

lol

[karmic geyser]

thorns is viable

unironically

[midnight obsidian]

also triggers various on-hit effects

[karmic geyser]

you just have to make your entire build revolve around it

thorns will trigger when you active block

so even trial of sekhema is possible

[slender iron]

What's the best electricity skills for a witch hunter mercenary lightning build? (Load plasma blast, load shock burst rounds, herald of thunder, galvanic shards)

[midnight obsidian]

lightning spear lol

[mortal swift]

no because you are scaling thorns with a lot of flat, tree barely has any inc dmg nodes. Plus you have almost no atk dmg, So your caltrops are gonna do piss dmg

[karmic geyser]

the caltrops damage is based on your thorns

[midnight obsidian]

yeah the "hazard" nodes on tree are really low point value

[mortal swift]

oh wait you dont need atk dmg since base is inherent

hmm

but still only about +200% thorns dmg on tree

can get +100 on gear

too slow vs other scalers

[midnight obsidian]

you'll have to get some generic flat dmg as well from other stuff

since flat thorns damage won't apply to caltrops

[mortal swift]

why would generic flat apply to caltrops, caltrops use their own base and not weapon base

[karmic geyser]

any kind of %increased phys on your tree will buff thorns

[mortal swift]

well, since the strongest flat inc to thorns is the new lightning runes you have to go +lightning to buff most of your thorns

[midnight obsidian]

the funny olroth club adds damage to it from what somebody posted on the last caltrops build

[mortal swift]

wait :o

thats interesting

I just wish heralds worked on thorns man

clear could be so much better

[midnight obsidian]

https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1jzdhin/trail_of_caltrops_mechanics_projectile_tech/

[jovial blade]

are cast on X skills still trash?

[karmic geyser]

lmao no

they are insane

cast on crit is used in tons of builds

[mortal swift]

this would imply there was a time when they were trash

[ashen cargo]

Is PoB2 working well atm for making builds?

[jovial blade]

They were op at launch then got nerfed to the ground

[mortal swift]

nope, they were still OP

lol

coc is staple in most crit builds

[jovial blade]

I see. How about cast on shock?

Been trying to do a build around cast on shock. It is casting very rarely. maybe like once every 15 sec. it is ridiculous :))

[vagrant oyster]

is elemental conflux bugged? i have it set to only on weapon set 2 but as long as i use one ability on that weapon set at the start of each map elemental conflux will keep reproccing while using weapon set 1

[mortal swift]

How are you shocking? Do you have high shock chance?

I think you also need something to consume the shock to be able to reshock

[gritty zinc]

I want a new fun map zoomer, any fun builds yall have ?

[karmic geyser]

lightning spear...

[gritty zinc]

[karmic geyser]

what

thats the build

[gritty zinc]

flicker it is

[karmic geyser]

ice strike invoker still slaps

invoker in general still very strong

[solemn kettle]

is impetus or energy retention more valuable ? if you had to pick one

[sharp pine]

Does anyone know anything about the Flicker Strike Amazon? I just built it, spent 40 Divine, but it doesn't feel right. Can someone take a look at it? - i pay for it (divine)

[karmic geyser]

rule 6

[open brook]

Hey Am I missing something? If I have multiple copies of the same spell equiped, does 1 cast of that spell cast all copies? If so why isnt this the most broken OP thing imaginable? came across this build that has 4 copies of ember fusillade and I cant really understand how it works unless all cast fire all copies https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1k8w12n/i_turned_ember_fusillade_into_a_machine_gun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

or wait .... is each source of reduced skill duration from support gems affecting every cast no matter which copy you cast? Is that a bug?

[karmic geyser]

doesnt work that way

you can individually assign each copy to a different button

[open brook]

but what would be the point? you could just use 1 skill set up

[karmic geyser]

because you cant have multiple copies of the same support gems in different skills

(unless you are gemling)

[open brook]

this build is using the unique helmet with that effect

but even if it works that way Im not getting what benefit this would provide

[karmic geyser]

you still need to press each button

they have their own cast times

no matter what you do you can't have one button activate more than one skill at the same time

disregarding cast on X stuff of course

watching that build video

[open brook]

but, wait, theres a disaconnect here, I know how poe works, I understand the in and outs of pob and mechanics and it broadly it makes sense, what is the difference here if you are casting different spell copies vs just 1 of that spell, it doesnt mean anything in this case, you arent getting extra casts or any benefit of any kind

[karmic geyser]

and the investment that was put into it is NOT worth the results lol

the video is just a dude who wants to shoot a lot of ember fusillades

like a machine gun

thats basically it

[open brook]

so its just nothing, its just fluff, no mechanical difference of any kind if he removed 3 of the copies?

[karmic geyser]

guy has a small channel, if you just comment they will probably respond

[open brook]

thought I was losing my mind there for min honestly, what a let down

[karmic geyser]

its a big troll

Because I'm a firm believer of combos, I decided to add a few extra Ember Fusillades

[idle goblet]

Anyone using BL/LW/Arc here ?

[cosmic tulip]

Guys , I am planning to come back to poe 2 , is there any balisata build for huntress our there ?:D I need some inspiration for my tree .

O for balistas is better to just make a new gemling character?

[frigid pawn]

Why is the energy shield so low for the minion? shouldn't it be like 400 somethin?

[mortal swift]

there is a use

ember fusilade specifically has a point in doing this

because a second cast of it before the first fires off makes it keep gaining embers

so with different spells you have one firing as the next gains

I think last league tempest bell used two skill gems, dark effigy uses two skill gems sometimes

[mortal swift]

or maybe I am talking out of my ass, idk if fusilade actually fires previous if u cast a different fusilade. ALtho I remember even last league there was an ember build that did this same thing with reduced duration. It was even better than this video

[mint summit]

Did you check the skill section of video? He’s only running 2 copies, he just has them in weapon sets I assume. One copy can’t inflict ailments, the other does fire exposure, because fusillade stacks projectiles you can just cast both and stack up a few different projectiles.

[worn idol]

Hello, I’m a level 22 Amazon going as Lightning Spear. I was wondering how important skills tree nods like Accuracy Rating and Evasion are? I’m coming from warrior where there wasn’t much defensive nods on the tree. Are they must have?

[austere reef]

Play it by ear as you go through the campaign, if you feel like dmg is lacking, put more points into dmg, if you feel like you’re dying too much, putting some points into defenses would help. It’s worth noting that evasion does not let you dodge big boss slam attacks by default. With that being said, offense in a lot of cases is your best defense

[worn idol]

Thank you.

[mortal swift]

lightning spear amazon is insanely easy to campaign with tbh, if you arent on first play thru you can just buy tangletongue and cruise through campaign

[mint summit]

How good is ls Amazon without tangletongue? Tongue looks like a bit of a whoopsie design but I haven’t tested the build.

[mortal swift]

late game you actually do better with a rare spear

like sufficiently late though

its because amazon gets crit from asc, so tangletongue not that worth

[mint summit]

We talking like 10 div spear? 50 div?

More?

[mortal swift]

Im not sure tbh

I think you just get a lot of accuracy

and base crit

and that shield that doubles accuracy I suppose

[silk sapphire]

I think you only want to replace it with a really good seaglass spear with a high roll + crit. Add high roll accuracy and maybe some dex or AS, crit bonus, lightning damage and phys damage. If you find all those, congrats you need like 50+d to buy one

[spice girder]

is tabula rasa good for any endgame builds?

[austere reef]

That chest piece has a lot of versatility, just requires good jewels to make good use of it. It’s very good, but it’s expensive by itself, on top of how expensive 6 good jewels are.

[zinc gate]

Does EoW only count for CoC per cast? Definitely does not seem like each projectile.

[spice girder]

I have one and I’m using it for levelling with just 2% move speed jewels but idek what jewels I’d want for late game

For lightning spear

[atomic halo]

cast on... is per skill use nvm

[mental agate]

hey I make a build for amazon using armour piercing to break armour and generate charge for infuse weapon. Clear tier 15 fast on a 2 div budget https://poe2.ninja/pob/5526

[atomic halo]

with eow even if each proj crits each one is dealing so little damage individually that it's not going to be much energy

[mortal swift]

I dont think end game u go tabula

atleast on ls

too much def loss

[austere reef]

Lot of options really.
Can go with lightning damage, lightning penetration, increased energy shield, recover mana on kill, crit chance, crit dmg, increased evasion

[uncut trout]

Melee damage modifier gives damage to aoe melee skills, right? Just making sure

[gaunt epoch]

guys, i have a question, so when we set the weapon set passive skills node, we cant set that for those major big passive nodes?

[atomic halo]

yes

[atomic halo]

correct, cant do keystones (or jewels)

[uncut trout]

Thanks

[gaunt epoch]

keystone? the big passive skill nodes is called keystones?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[gaunt epoch]

ooo ok, new information, thanks!

[static plinth]

Lich's unholy might branch would be pretty bad if im using a skill like Rapid Shot which has several hundred % gain as extra, right?

[pearl sluice]

yo is it possible to get Maligaros gloves from Alva? I'm starting to get desperate with these prices xDD

[static plinth]

Technically, i believe so
Practically, just farm the money to buy a pair

[pearl sluice]

thanks

[gaunt canopy]

does anyone know how we could assign a keystone passive without having it connected to the passive tree?As in if this is possible or not?

[mortal swift]

Not sure if it works but against the darkness maybe

But ofc you need another keystone in range

[shadow zephyr]

if you run multiple copies of the same skill gem do they share cooldown or have their own per use?

[fierce sluice]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/557e

Thoughts on this POB? Any advice?

It would be for a LA Deadeye for reference.

[mortal swift]

this has to be the most troll unique in the game lmao

at max frenzy charge you get a measly 5% extra move speed

[wicked tiger]

It’s 5% per charge

There’s nodes that can increase your max charge too

[atomic halo]

it's per charge, with the nodes on the tree + 1 from corrupt you can get like 8 max frenzies for 40% ms

[mortal swift]

That's what I said

It's 40% ms which is 5% more than normal boots.

For a unique that's barely worth anything

[atomic halo]

oh, i see yeah

[narrow summit]

How can I improve my damage with lightning spear? I’m level 15 ranger

[static plinth]

Especially bad when Infinite Pursuit just straight beats it and is easier to enable (though those boots are still kinda bad

[manic kite]

how much evasion for ire chest to be worth?

[carmine sorrel]

Any suggestions on which 4th supp gem to place on Unbound Avatar? I alr placed Persistance in other spell..

[austere reef]

What skill is persistence in? There’s a chance it may be more worth in unbound avatar instead

[carmine sorrel]

It is currently in Charged Staff

[austere reef]

How many maximum power charges do you have?

[carmine sorrel]

I think it is 3. Not sure where to check unless in combat

[austere reef]

And do you have the quarterstaff node that makes consuming power charges count as consuming one extra

If you dont have any passive points specced into max power charges then its 3

[carmine sorrel]

Which one is that?

[austere reef]

It’s the bottom one on the quarterstaff looking set of nodes on the right side

[carmine sorrel]

Yup, just saw there is actually 2 node groups for power charge..

Thank you for clearing that out

[austere reef]

3 actually

[carmine sorrel]

Yup, you are right

Do you mind jumping in DM, so you can advise me how to respec for these?

[austere reef]

So where I’m getting with this is, if you have good enough charge generation it’s probably worth putting persistence into unbound instead charged staff. With that q-staff node that counts as consuming an extra charge you can cast charged staff with two charges but get the buff as if you casted it with 3.

And sure send me a DM with your passive tree

[torn bobcat]

is there a way to make accuracy stacking work without javazon?

[cedar aspen]

Which one would be better to socket for Essence Drain: Chaos Master or Considered Casting?

Currently only have a 4 link so I don’t have space for both yet, wondered which one il get the most out of first.

[near jewel]

For a noob first time ssf is ancestral sunder / rolling slam totems build on Kitava /kind of/ okk?

[static plinth]

You can do any skill on Amazon (in theory,) but accuracy stacking has 0 point without it

[torn bobcat]

I'm a merc (wh) and I bricked my weapon by rolling t8 accuracy. looking to find a way to make it work haha

[cedar aspen]

Never mind, found my answer 👍

[static plinth]

I mean if the rest of it is good, sell it to an actual Amazon and then buy a better weapon in its place

Or if you're SSF, that sucks

[torn bobcat]

thanks! ill try this

it's pretty good with t7 flat phys, t9 lightning, and t8 accu, with aspd, crit damage and 4.3 crit chance

[static plinth]

Damn yeah that is a good one

It could be worth trying to use omens to fix it

Prefix Only + Whittling might hit accuracy

[torn bobcat]

nah, it will hit flat phys

[willow blade]

whats the best delerium power for a lich?

[static plinth]

oof, you're right

[torn bobcat]

welp this advice worked. was able to sell it for 28 divs

[low panther]

any ideas for a Distilled Emotion amulet im a gas grenade witch hunter

[crude pine]

that item is more about the +1 max frenzy charges, which is a more multiplier for some skills that scale per frenzy charge

[mortal swift]

I suppose. But at only +1 it's only a good multi if you aren't going the +charges on tree

[crude pine]

14% more (8/7) is worth considering for a build for sure

Normally the boots slot gives you 0% more damage

[mortal swift]

I suppose

[fringe kelp]

does this work with barrage -> lightning spear? does lightning spear get extra damage? or is this just going to reduce the cast speed of barrage for zero effect

[rigid dagger]

What’s a good witch lvling-endgame build

[midnight obsidian]

premeditation lets your empowered ls deal more damage considered casting does nothing

[dawn spire]

Depends on the ascendancy, but I think you can do the campaign and at least early endgame with the chaos dot bundle on any witch ascendancy

Essence drain, contagion, dark effigy, etc

[vital turtle]

Is this better than tangletounge for LS amazon?

[atomic halo]

pob it

[fringe kelp]

i'm not understanding, is that saying +48.3% flat amount increase? or is that saying 48% multiplier, so like 23.41% * 1.483 = ~35%?

[midnight obsidian]

it's flat however this tooltip shows the bonus from all (100%) not just the 25% you actually get from accuracy

[fringe kelp]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/fubgun-lightning-spear-amazon?weaponSet=set1&widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiJiM2M5MTdlNy02OTQ2LTQyZGItOWVhYi1lZDExNDZkMWM1MGMifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0 I'm not understanding in this build, why does it have blindside support gem in storm lance

where is the source of blind

[rigid dagger]

That is the source

That’s the build I’m running on my huntress

[dawn spire]

skills supported by blindside cannot inflict blind

[fringe kelp]

no, that's not how it works 😄

oh its on infuse weapon, nvm

i'm blind

😉

[rigid dagger]

😂

I just know I use it and turns them blind lol

[dawn spire]

it does not

[fringe kelp]

but you don't. its infuse weapon. Blindside literally makes it so that skill cannot inflict blind

[dawn spire]

are you sure you're using "blindside" support and not "blind" support?

[midnight obsidian]

if you feel like infused weapon does more damage (it probably shouldn't) you can swap the 2

[fringe kelp]

i like the idea of blinding trash mobs too tho, which is how its set up now. Otherwise you'd only blind bosses/rares

[midnight obsidian]

there's a couple of uniques that auto-blind too

jewels also roll chance and if you have 1-2 of those it should be up for the full 4 seconds

that being said I usually put blind on the default attack or parry so infuse gets some extra damage

[craggy ice]

hey I want to make an armor breaker warbringer build because it was fun last season. just wondering if it can still handle endgame?

[pearl sluice]

just slammed an exalt on this little gem here. there's only like 4 of these on tyhe market total right now and of them, mine is second highest in rolls...does anyone have any advice on what to price this at?

[mortal swift]

Tbh I'm wondering if they're the best boots if I'm deadeye LS, since technically value of charge is more for deadeye

[midnight obsidian]

yeah if you're a barrage enjoyer +max is always good

you can always vaal them for another +1% ms per charge

[crude pine]

Still 14% more damage (16/14), the ratio is the same

The awkward part of them is that your MS changes, but with current state of LS deadeye you will one shot bosses anyway

[mortal swift]

True, but the raw gain is more/having full stacks on maps is easy is basically what I meant

[steady flint]

Anyone here know if Ember Fusillade hits with both projectile and explosion?
As in tooltip dmg hits "twice"?

[crude pine]

yeah more charges from "chance to gain up to maximum" is nice

[mortal swift]

Yeah basically. Might try it out until I buy rare boots, but I really want the 6% version and really don't want to spend 1 div on it

6% means 48% ms

I will zoom

[silk sapphire]

would it be worth spending on a higher crit roll tangletongue? I've been using this one forever because i found it and got an ok corrupt even though it's a low crit roll.

Picture is my current

[mortal swift]

What's your stat sheet showing

On skill

[silk sapphire]

crit is low

[mortal swift]

You can snipe like a 22+ crit hit chance if you try, probably won't get the corrupt tho.

Are you Amazon or deadeye?

[silk sapphire]

amazon

do you think that is worht dropping the good corrupt on mine?

looks like I can get a 24.5 for like 60-70ex

[mortal swift]

That's probably a question for you+pob. Also, I've seen rare spears also be pretty good on Amazon. Don't know the price range tho for that.

[silk sapphire]

good rares are like mega expensive

[mortal swift]

I got a 22.88 for like 10 or 20 ex iirc. So for 70 ex you might be able to get a 22 with a corrupt

Mine has a shit corrupt

[mortal swift]

Makes sense, I'm dead eye so tangletongue is always better for me

[silk sapphire]

oh yeah theres a decent one for 60 lol

[mortal swift]

Yeah it's like 22.8 will be so much cheaper than 23 even tho it's barely any diff since whole numbers are what people look at more

So when I trade I reduce by 0.1 until price drops

[hoary bolt]

Is it just me, or is the damage of battershout bugged somehow? It just seems to do like 1/10th the damage its supposed to

[vital scroll]

Does anyone know if poison / chaos leech exists anywhere?

[hoary bolt]

Acolyte of Chayula can leech off of non-physical damage

[vital scroll]

Anything not class specific? or is that it

[atomic halo]

the covenant, unique body armour i guess, not much else

there's also bloodmage and amazon that can do it, but asc specific of course

[vital scroll]

Alrighty, thanks!

[atomic halo]

addendum: not amazon, that only works with ele leech, idk why i said it. also, you can never leech from poison, because poison is damage over time and damage over time cannot leech. also, lifesprig can do it, but it's not a good item.

[weak rain]

is the forsaken bangle charm any good?

[hoary bolt]

What builds benefit the most from instant armour-break? (outside the 1 second break CD)

[ashen jackal]

Hey any idea for the best monk build rn ( all rounder) , lightning spear, ice strike, flicker strike? dont have too much cash tho , thanks!

[mortal swift]

in es calcs it overall all es = (base type es + flat) x %

and is the % es from runes additive to % on gear?

[mint summit]

Should be, it’s local % increased

[sick gulch]

Having a huge mana problem with my huntress. is there anything i need to maintain from spamming my flask every 5-10sec

[azure dome]

does trampletoe work with thorns?

or does overkill mechanic work with thorns?

[livid fulcrum]

Depends on what build

[mortal swift]

Usually for mapping a mana on kill jewel does the trick

[green tree]

Question, is there any advantage in using the chaos bow in poe2, esp with chayula

And yknow, with poison

[static plinth]

Not really, its dogshit

It's unique Voltaxic Rift is okay

[dawn spire]

Poison leech cannot exist because leech only works off of hits. I don't know of any chaos leech, but blood mage's 10% spell life leech and acolyte of chayula's typeless mana leech would both work with chaos hit damage

[jovial blade]

what does +1 prefix modifier allowed mean?

[dawn spire]

Normally a rare item can have three prefixes and three suffixes by default. That would allow an item to have four prefixes

[mortal swift]

insane tbh

decisions are to be made

[dawn spire]

Ranged companion will stay closer to you more reliably, reserves less spirit, and won't die as much thanks to proximal tangibility

[mortal swift]

all true I agreege

[dawn spire]

Doesn't have 20% quality tho

[mortal swift]

idk why people like the quadrilla ngl

brother goes to vietnam every fight

[mortal swift]

I mean I can just qual no?

[dawn spire]

Yeah, I don't know your economic position though

It may have been worth considering

[mortal swift]

ah lol, its fine, I have enough spirit anyway so it doesnt matter actually

[jovial blade]

what are the difference between suffix and prefix?

[mortal swift]

an item can have only 3 of each max normally, and they have different pools they pick from

[jovial blade]

Ohh okay I get it now. Thanks

[dawn spire]

Yeah it's the pools as jungle said. On gear, Maximum life and defenses are always prefixes, for example. Resistances are always suffixes. On weapons, %inc physical damage and flat damage mods are always prefixes while attack speed and crit are always suffixes. You can hold alt and hover over an item to see a breakdown of which mods are prefixes and suffixes

[north heart]

What y’all think about bone shatter leap warrior?

[pale meteor]

If some1 wants to path to top lightning nodes and eldrich battery as gemlin legionaire, best route is the outter ring?

It costs 25 points to path there.

[jovial blade]

what's a good item or passive that complements eldrich battery?

I really want to use it but it's draining my mana so much

[pale meteor]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/m81jk0ao something like this

[jovial blade]

its weird that it has patient barrier when passives that increases energy shield does not increases mana

I just tried that earlier, and any passives that increase energy shield will not work with eldrich battery

[void osprey]

Hello, i have boots with 30% MS but for some reason in my hideout it says i have +24.8% MS only

what causes it to drop?

[pale meteor]

patient barrier works i think

the increase is just done before its converted to mana so idk if taking of EB before applying increase to ES and then re picking EB would help?

if theres something fucky with the code etc

[karmic geyser]

armor makes you slower

[void osprey]

wait whatt??

[karmic geyser]

yeah its dumb

shields too

[void osprey]

ok whats the downside of ES or EV?

[karmic geyser]

nothing

lol

[void osprey]

huhh thats actually so silly

[karmic geyser]

actually pure es and pure ev gear also has a penalty

but its less

[void osprey]

what is the penalty for those?

[karmic geyser]

boots and gloves have no penalties

pure str body armor is -5%

[karmic geyser]

-3% for body armour

[void osprey]

ohh i see, ty for sharing

[karmic geyser]

big shields are -3%
smaller shields are -1.5%

[jovial blade]

Its not. I just tried it right now

[steady flint]

No one knows?

[jagged silo]

does shield charge collision work on boss or just mobs?

[pale meteor]

f well i guess u stack max mana and mana regen then

[silk sapphire]

Can someone understand what the heck this all means?

When the say 'you want 100% crit'

which of these #s do they mean?

obv n ot bonus but...

[karmic geyser]

tangletongue rolls to crit twice

"forked critical hits"

effective chance just means the chance of at least one of the two rolls to succeed

if you get the twice-critical you get 2x crit damage bonus

twice-critical means both crit rolls succeed

[mortal swift]

you want as high as possuble on the third line (idk if the 4th line is already added or not for the amazon ascendancy, but if its not added then the calculation is kind of iffy to do)

[silk sapphire]

ok thank you, so I'm using a really low crit tangle now 17.2% so was trying to decide if I should spend some dough on alike 24% for 7% extra base crit chance

the only thing mine has that's good is a nice lightning damage corrupt

it sounds like I absolutely should upgrade it

[karmic geyser]

assuming you are amazon? get more accuracy to buff the effects from Critical Strike ascendancy node

[silk sapphire]

I've only 1div to my name, seems like good seaglass spears with high accuracy rolls are out of my price range

[karmic geyser]

you can get accuracy on rings

[silk sapphire]

I've got lots of accuracy

[mortal swift]

wait 17.2 total or on roll

can find decent ones for 10ex 20ex

[silk sapphire]

dude it's a 12% roll haha

I've just been absolutely wrecking everything

I never stopped to question it

[karmic geyser]

if you have 51% crit with a 12% base, upgrading to a higher crit base would massively increase your crit chance

[silk sapphire]

lol

[karmic geyser]

nice

[silk sapphire]

gained like 6k dps too

[pearl sluice]

Are there any must try builds?

That are not lighting spear

I got a monk/warrior/witch to choose acendencies from

[steady breach]

flicker strike is something any poe player should experience at least once

[pearl sluice]

I have a flicker monk

Or tried it lol

Kinda clunky

How is the beiras anguish build?

[fringe kelp]

does this mean i'm too stacked on crit chance?

like is everything over 100% pointless?

cause if I'm mathing right, that looks like I'm at a minimum of 135%

[steady breach]

unless you have something scaling from exccess crit, kinda yeah

[fringe kelp]

does anything scale from excess crit? I didn't know such things existed

[steady breach]

maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

didnt learn all the poe2 stuff yet

[lunar surge]

is there any other way to create buring ground besides incinerate or trail of fire minion?

[karmic geyser]

bear in mind chance to hit decreases as your get further from enemies if you are using ranged attacks

[dawn spire]

Burning inscription support

[fringe kelp]

isn't that what the range of values is for? the smaller one is the "further" distance?

[viral latch]

Is 90% crit enough for tangletongue or should I push it to 100?

[dawn spire]

I think that's vs more or less evasive monsters, but I'm not certain

[dawn spire]

Define "enough". It all depends on how much dps it gives you vs how much you need to invest to get that extra 10% crit

[fringe kelp]

well that being said, is there a general "amount" of crit chance (when adding your main hand + the smaller of the extra numbers), that you want to get to? do you stop at 100? 105? 110? I'm guessing the 135 I showed was too much

[viral latch]

I went with more crit damage bonus nodes instead of crit chance. I was wondering if it's better that way or if I should push crit to 100%. I'm on 730% crit dmg bonus and around 90% cit chance

[dawn spire]

It's honestly very hard to say. We don't fully know how accuracy scales between no penalty and the 90% penalty at 12m (I think it's 12m?).

Monsters have so much variable evasion, there's blind, etc. It's very hard to estimate

[fringe kelp]

are you running tangletongue?

[viral latch]

Yes

[fringe kelp]

probably better that way then, if I had to guess, since you're almost guaranteed at least "1x critical" at that point, and the 2x critical is nice but it's not the difference between 1x and 8x your damage

90% crit when your crits deal 8x damage on a normal weapon would mean that 10% of the time, you basically whiff on your hits

because 1/8 of your damage is gonna feel puny 😄

[dawn spire]

Some quick math tells me that with tangletongue, 90% crit chance, and 730% crit damage bonus, getting to 100% crit would give you about 10.3% more dps

If damage bonus stayed the same

[fringe kelp]

right, but if you're sacrificing ~70% crit damage bonus to do so, then it probably roughly cancels out

[dawn spire]

Lemme check

Yeah it would almost exactly cancel out. 14.14 crit dps multiplier to 14.2

[viral latch]

I'll remove something not as usefull then like the 3 herald nodes and go with more cirt then

Thanks for the help

[dawn spire]

Well, just to make sure, the crit damage bonus is on top of your 100% base damage, right?

Like, a crit bonus of 100% means you deal 200% damage with a normal crit and 300% with a forked crit, right?

That was the assumption I was working from

So 730% crit bonus = 1560% total damage

On forked crit

[viral latch]

730 is what it says on the tooltip

Yes the base

Before fork

[dawn spire]

Right, I just forgot if forked crits double the base or not. I assumed they didn't

So (100 + 730 +730)% = 1560% damage on forked crit

But at 90% crit it only happens 81% of the time.
So
(0.81 x 15.6) + (0.18 x 8.3) x (0.01x1)=14.14 average crit damage multiplier

[steady flint]

Some unique boots makes ignited ground based on 10% of max health

Doubt you can scale that anywhere close to Incinerate tho

[dawn spire]

I'm currently cooking up some stupid incinerate pathfinder with mobility support and the 50% less movement speed penalty. I'm just gonna hold down incinerate the whole map and get a ton of one-time or while-channeling supports to boost it a bunch

If you use something like, "Consume a charge to gain X" with a channeling skill, does it consume once and give you that benefit for the whole channel? Or just one "cast" of that channel?

Also, did they really make cast on ignite not work with skills like flame wall or incinerate? Poe2db says you need to ignite with hits from the skills

[carmine flicker]

incinerate does work

for some reason

[dawn spire]

Wild

It doesn't hit though, right?

[carmine flicker]

it work AS IF hits or smth

so it works
for.. reason

[dawn spire]

I wonder if they literally just hard-coded it to not work with flame wall lmao

[carmine flicker]

but no, it doesn't hit

well
worked in 0.1

didn't test recently

[carmine flicker]

that's a possibility, tbh

[dawn spire]

Fingers crossed. I'd love to do a cast on ignite firestorm

While just holding down incinerate

[carmine flicker]

cast on ignite ball lightning, man
with "remove ignite to do damage" support
that(ignite) you reapply same instant
while BL do this 7-10 times per trigger

[dawn spire]

If I have two cast on ignite setups and I ignite something that would normally give me 4 energy, do both setups get 4 energy or does it split 2-2?

[carmine flicker]

that I don't know, sadly

[dawn spire]

I really want flammability to be triggered as well

I guess I could do blasphemy

But it's so smol

[dawn spire]

This is a spicy meatball

[copper mirage]

casual player here...in market for a new build that can clear end game content...budget is 1 Div (prev played monk ice strike and Lich EDC)

any suggestions would be super-appreciated

if there is a build guide - that would be cherry on top

[dawn spire]

Artillery Ballista Tactician is solid. Zizaran has a guide for it on YouTube

[south summit]

A bit on the nose, but lightning spear tactitian works really well too

Free frenzy charges from his pin nodes

[copper mirage]

can I see this build somewhere

[south summit]

Get the 2 pin nodes and then pick up the spirit reservation node

Last node can be polish that gear

[south summit]

Its a homebrew, not made by any streamers. I can send it to you later when im home

One warning in advance, you have insane map clear but bossing is a bit of a pain. I can clear t4 king of the mist and olroth no problem, but im struggeling with t4 xesht atm

[mortal swift]

Deadeye Lightning spear