2┃build-planning

[fierce sluice]

it used to show you the loss of dps for skills and stuff if you held shift, now it does nothing

[scenic dawn]

It might be a bug I’ve realised a lot of nodes show nothing now

Some do

Some don’t

[fierce sluice]

ahh interesting

not a single one of mine does I checked like 30 lol

[scenic dawn]

Yeah it’s honestly annoying cause some of them were useful to know which did more for your damage and stuff

[fierce sluice]

Any advice or tips/changes I should look into? first ever time making my own build.

I am having a ton of fun and slamming maps right now, a little squishy but currently investing most points into max energy shield

I have taken almost ever freeze build up node that makes sense, and have been scaling cast speed, mana regen, and cold exposure magnitude

and then max ES for survivability

[scenic dawn]

I honestly haven’t done a normal sorceress yet only one I’ve got is a melee chronomancer

[fierce sluice]

Hell yeah very cool

[scenic dawn]

My main issue with my high damage builds are that in maps they are squishy

It seems to be a regular thing for most builds that slam damage wise

I usually invest heavily into ES late game

[fierce sluice]

ahh got you

[scenic dawn]

There’s a unique cheat piece I usually get

Let me get the name for you

Morior Invictus
Grand Regalia

That’s what I usually buy

[fierce sluice]

I am personally SSF but I will be on the lookout for it!

[scenic dawn]

I wish you look on getting drops homie

[fierce sluice]

ty!! I am ngl I got a divine on my very first map at lvl 61 💀

maybe if I get fed up at like lvl 80 I will just go make a strong ass build in standard with it lol

[scenic dawn]

That’s incredibly lucky, so far I’ve had around 10 unique items drop and I’ve got like 12 characters

My luck is abysmal even on maps

[atomic halo]

it doesnt consider stuff like enemies having ailments

so it just treats it as the node doing nothing

[woeful tartan]

For ed/c lich which is more important to scale: hit or dot? Debating dropping Spiral into Insanity for Pure Chaos which would lower dot but inc hit and give me some extra skill points

[obsidian ermine]

I'm using Amazon in SSF. I'm lvl 31 and doing Lazy's Lightning Spear Amazon right now but should I respec to Crossbows, which is easiest for SSF and going into the end game?

[fierce sluice]

not a single node on my tree displays anything lol

even simple cold dmg % doesnt work with holding shift

[summer thicket]

which would be better to use for LS amazon

[plain saddle]

Go to path of building 2 and check both weapons

But probably the one on the right because crit roll o tangletongue is 💩

[summer thicket]

tyty

[mortal swift]

Isn't the crit on right even more atrocious

But I also prefer right

[summer thicket]

why do ppl use tangletongue?

its pretty easy to get crit

[mortal swift]

The fork of crit is kind of a stupid interaction from what I understand

But yes Amazon can use rare spear and it's probably better with a good rare

I think deadeye prefers tangletongue

[plain saddle]

11.19 is not bad for rare weapon everyone uses this forked one because eof high CRIT base

[summer thicket]

imma use the tool thingy and see for myself

[plain saddle]

And these forking crits

[plain saddle]

So tell me how much CRIT do you have

[summer thicket]

this is with seaglass

with tangletongue

i guess its 20% more crit

[plain saddle]

Not only 20% more

It's 8y tbh

Because you have some note with lucky hits

[shadow zephyr]

So last season one of our guildmembers ran the unique that made all kills in presence count as theirs along with the presence double unique, then they stacked 450% magic find and followed us around with a minion swarm. (Rarity increase is an on-kill effect, and all kills were theirs...)

This season there's no rarity cores and ingenuity won't push suffix+prefix rarity rings nearly as hard as it did last season, so; what's new play for increased rarity?

[fallen violet]

does anyone know how to actually run path of building after you install it?

[plain saddle]

Which mean that DMG is rolled twice

So your CRIT chance is actually the effective 86%

[mortal swift]

It's the same, just that people now run like 300-400 rarity

[plain saddle]

Double click .exe file

[summer thicket]

damn so ill have to look for a good tangletongue if i want to max out my dmg?

[plain saddle]

If you want to max out then it's rare

[mortal swift]

Although I do see folks with 550 rarity

[plain saddle]

But tangletongue is cheaper to get

[mortal swift]

No rare is better for max out

Just that it's harder to get

[fallen violet]

thanks

[summer thicket]

would i be looking for the same as this but better numbers?

[plain saddle]

No

https://forbiddentrove.com/poe2-league/

Mirror tier items

[mortal swift]

Dam

[scenic dawn]

this is a thing

[scenic dawn]

where are you getting 476+ % crit from, i must be missing some nodes fr

Im only asking cause its my first time making a crit build

[mortal swift]

Could also be from gear

I think gloves

[scenic dawn]

Yeah was just thinking that

ohhh

could be from the amazon passive

[mortal swift]

Possibly

[scenic dawn]

accuracy = crit chance

[mortal swift]

476 is crit damage btw

[scenic dawn]

oh wait im stupid

buh

yeah

[mortal swift]

[scenic dawn]

still that seems hella high

usually its around 300

[mortal swift]

What will u do with 476 crit chance

[scenic dawn]

[plain saddle]

Triple crit

[scenic dawn]

So true

[plain saddle]

It's a fact

[mortal swift]

Does that work in poe2?

[scenic dawn]

wait actually?

[plain saddle]

Yup

[scenic dawn]

no way

[scenic dawn]

Mayhaps we have a reason

[plain saddle]

Check attachment

[mortal swift]

What am I checking

[summer thicket]

im using Vinidiction Passive Tree

[plain saddle]

Chance for twice critical hit

[mortal swift]

That's because of tangletongue lol

[scenic dawn]

could you send me a screen 🙏🏻

[plain saddle]

Yup

[scenic dawn]

thank you

i shall have a look at the nodes i havent used before

[summer thicket]

i also have stormcharged on my amulet

[plain saddle]

First time I see different passive allocation than what fubgun did

[scenic dawn]

Im not using spear on my build

and im only using basic attacks

i will make this work

[plain saddle]

What weapon

[scenic dawn]

Bow

[summer thicket]

onces for mapping other is for bossing xd

[cursive girder]

does anyone know what the counters are above the Ritual Sacrifice buff icon? like, if i sacrifice multiple rares, my timer resets but there's a number above the timer that goes up by 2 each time. so if i sacrifice 4 rares back to back before the timer runs out, there's an 8 above it. but not sure what that means

[drowsy wyvern]

Is there a replacement for this

[plain saddle]

Wrong game lil bro

You play Poe for 14 hours straight???

[tiny pine]

if I'm 8hrs into a trash build that I have no idea what I'm doing, do I just need to start over at this point?

[woven depot]

can always redo your passive tree if you have the gold for it

[tiny pine]

but what about all these orb level skill things? I feel like I've wasted all of them. Do you get more as the game progresses?

or do you only get so many of them and that's it?

[woven depot]

they drop in abundance

you’ll eventually start leaving them to rot

[scenic dawn]

Do anyone rings have crit chance on them?

[mighty drum]

Gold is not a problem once you have some t15 rare waystones to vendor 😉

[mighty drum]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Gifts_from_Above

There is one for spell CSC toohttps://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Seed_of_Cataclysm

[scenic dawn]

thank you homie

[oak juniper]

which site is best to export from pob, so people can have a look at the build?

[mystic dirge]

What support gems would be good for Attrition?

[uncut trout]

Is titan still strong or should I go smith of Kitava?

Prob Smith cuz I've heard it's strong and I already tried titan

[mystic dirge]

I believe Smith is bet warrior acendanccy this league

Well, I'll say most popular llol

[uncut trout]

Yeah I rolled smith

Seems like it has some cool stuff

Do different weapon sets have different skill gem load outs too?

[woven depot]

Skill gems are ‘shared’ across weapon sets, but you can assign specific skill gems to a specific set

[proud condor]

Smith saves on paying for a chest and has an easy time capping res/increasing max res. Just a really strong defensive ascendency.

[uncut trout]

Are temper weapon and living weapon minion strong for offense?

[uncut trout]

The hotbar doesn't switch automatically tho does it?

[proud condor]

Temper weapon snapshots for skills like flicker, idk how to best make use of it though

Imo, neither of those skills are particularly good for general use

[woven depot]

Nope, you just put the skills on the keybind you want them

[uncut trout]

Yeah then maybe switching between bow and spear on ranger isn't viable

I'll just use spear, I hear deadeye is really good rn

[fierce sluice]

Could anyone clarify what this conversion actually means for scaling?

Should I go for phys damage or lightning damage for this attack?

[dawn spire]

hold alt and click on the conversion keyword to read how it works

[fierce sluice]

I did, very confused because it contradicts what I have read online

[dawn spire]

you probably read stuff about poe1

it's very different in poe2

[dawn spire]

middle paragraph is what you're after

[fierce sluice]

If it no longer scales with phys damage, why do all of the builds I have seen with this ability use +phys damage and increased phys dmg % on the bow?

[dawn spire]

because those mods are local to the weapon

and thus raise your base damage

which is pre-conversion

[fierce sluice]

so once it goes to the skill what matters is this support gems

[dawn spire]

but global mods like "%inc phys damage" on the skill tree would be useless

[dawn spire]

any support gems that give %increased/more phys damage will also not work

[fierce sluice]

Okay so gear is pre conversion, skill tree and support gems are post conversion?

[proud condor]

Flat damage sources are pre conversion

[fierce sluice]

Okay very good to know, so for converted skills, I should go for the original dmg type on all my gear, and go for the converted dmg type on my skill tree and for my support gems

[proud condor]

% inc lightning damage on rings would work for example

[dawn spire]

base damage is calculated from the weapon + flat damage (could be from support gems) then it's converted, then skill gems apply

[fierce sluice]

what do you mean by this "flat damage (could be from support gems)"

you mean like +15-30 cold dmg on gear would increase its flat dmg?

[dawn spire]

immolate support, for example, adds flat damage

but so can rings

and so can your weapon

[fierce sluice]

ahhh the gain %x dmg as x dmg nodes

those are on the base you are saying

so conversion only really applies for skill tree and some support gems?

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure where those fit in

like if you have 100 phys damage, 100% phys converted to lightning, and 100% of lightning added as cold, idk if you do 100 damage or 200

I think the "gain as" keyword might help

[proud condor]

Afaik, gain can't double dip anymore either

[fierce sluice]

interesting okay, I just finished building my first home brewed build. It is a lvl 72 stormweaver CoF comet with frostbolt+coldsnap. I am retiring it and starting over on deadeye, because I want movement speed and hate how sluggish sorceress currently feels

[proud condor]

Like in PoE1 gain ele as chaos adds dmg per each step of conversion

[fierce sluice]

+30% just is not enough

Deadeye seems very fun because of all the MS nodes and the tailwind passive

time to run back the campaign, at least I have a ton of uncut gems and crafting mats this time around

and I found a divine on the ground so I could buy some good gear when I get to mapping if my luck is not looking too good

[fierce sluice]

I have tried plugging stuff into POB, but it honestly confused me even further lol

[dawn spire]

Deadeye only has 10% inc movement speed at 10 tailwind stacks

[fierce sluice]

I am probably going to keep building as I go, and just follow the in game DPS tooltips on skills

[dawn spire]

idk if it's gonna be that much faster

[fierce sluice]

Yes and 15%+ from early skill tree nodes

so 25% more than sorc, big difference

[atomic halo]

a major point of confusion is simply that #% inc phys on the weapon and #% inc phys on the tree look exactly the same but do fundamentally completely different things

[modest nimbus]

any thoughts on improving this army from my feradun plagbringers? what impowers summons , summoned by specteres?

i tryed the explodes on low life rune and dosent seam to apply to summons of summons

[fierce sluice]

any tips on just like becoming very knowledgeable at this game? it is the best game I have ever played, and I want to understand theorycrafting better

I am assuming trials and error, plus just asking questions and using the DB

[atomic halo]

keep playing and keep asking questions, use wiki pob and poe2db to the best of your extent

[dawn spire]

I'd actually recommend pathfinder, then. They can be unaffected by slows and have 50% less speed penalty when using skills

[atomic halo]

that's basically all there is to it

[modest nimbus]

and paying attention to small keyword terms

[dawn spire]

and still have the movement speed on the tree

[modest nimbus]

like permanint summon and persistent summon

[dawn spire]

Is "permanent" ever used to described a minion/summon in poe2?

[uneven torrent]

So, I am currently 38 and was runnign boneshatter Smith, is swapping to the Artillery Ballista viable at this point? or is that only for people who are actually good at this game... lol

[azure dome]

stomping ground not working with vaulting impact??

[dawn spire]

I'd say artillery ballista is easier than boneshatter

[uneven torrent]

Yeah sorta. finding some single target dmg issues. I did get one shot SEVERAL times by the due in act III that smacks you with the pillar...

I really hate perfect strike..

[azure dome]

I dont see the aoe working

[uneven torrent]

Is there a decent guide out there there that you recommend? I saw the one by Ziz, but his just says level to 31 with the suck, and then go art balls

[dawn spire]

I can't say. early on you kinda just level with whatever you can

[uneven torrent]

I mean, it doesnt help that I suck at POE 1 and 2 both.. haha

I was thinking about swapping the perfect strike to sunder...

[dawn spire]

then go for it

[proud condor]

Totems need gem lvl scaling

They're very strong for the campaign with access to trade

I can't speak for artillery balista, but for melee totems there's +1 on gloves, +1 on neck, +1 on unique helm, and easy to access +2/3 2h maces with low stat reqs for giant's blood dual wielding (those numbers are for the campaign)

[uneven torrent]

Pardon my ignorance,, which all totems count as melee?

[proud condor]

I know for balista, you can get +lvl on an amulet too

[dawn spire]

shockwave totem is the earliest one you get access to

[proud condor]

Ancestral Warrior and Shockwave totem

[uneven torrent]

Thank you

[proud condor]

If you stack melee gem lvls starting in act 3, you'll breeze through cruel

Shockwave totem or Sunder/ totems

[uneven torrent]

I need to respec my tree and make sure I have enough skill gems saved for the swap.

If I go melee, I still stack strenghth right? im gussing if I to artillery, I probably need more dx

[chilly mist]

where do spells and such get their damage? do wands and staves not have base damage for spells to work off of?

[dawn spire]

spells (and some attacks) get their base damage from the gem

[proud condor]

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn/character/Crackulous-7496/Burnaby?i=45&search=class%3DWarbringer&timemachine=day-1

You stack gem level and gem level only

Check my Day 1 character

[uneven torrent]

thanks, I was mainly looking at moby and maxroll, totally forgot about Ninja

[proud condor]

You could get a +1 amulet too early on

[uneven torrent]

Thanks yo

[shadow zephyr]

Can't help but notice that Hammer of the Gods no longer has cooldown and can be socketed into Ancestral Warrior Totem...

Does AWT check your glory stacks before casting HotG or does it just spam it on an attack timer?

[tawdry orbit]

did they mess with stunn buildup? im running a molten barrier build and before a couple days ago i was never getting heavy stunned while using redsonating shield to proc MB, but now its happening super randomly at times im sure my stun buildup should have been reset ages ago or just not high.

[static plinth]

Pretty sure youll cast the totem, itll fire off once, then the totem will stay inactive and useless

I dont kno wfor a fact, but thats how similar worked in PoE1

[night shadow]

Hello guys, don't know if this is the right place to ask this kind of question. If no, please tell me what channel to use. On weapon exist Leeches #% of Physical Damage as Life and on other staff like rings or gloves Leech #% of Physical Attack Damage as Life key difference is the extra Attack word on gloves and rings. Do bleed damage is consider as attack damage or for bleed builds leeches on weapon is the way to go?

[wintry umbra]

How the fuck doesnt people comes out with those decimal super specific number on the mod/stats values when using weightened filters? Is theree any way to know them? Like if u search resistances ofc elemental resist will always be valued the triple than any single resistance, but what abou other stats way less obvious, like % increments?

[indigo radish]

I was thinking the same thing too, but you'd probably need to get a high damage spear considering all of the flat damage you're missing out on by using the ventor's gamble rings

[shadow zephyr]

tested it, what actually happens is lame as hell. the totem is useless unless it acquires its own glory first.

so you'd have to put it with HotG and a stun skill

totem lasts 8 seconds so unless your tremor shotgunning the screen it'll never build high enough, and if you're tremor shotgunning with AWT you've got better things to slot than HotG with it

[cedar aspen]

Does anyone use Zealots Oath? If so do I go for life regen nodes and skills to help with ES regen instead?

And are there any other notables/keystones that synergize with it?

[dusty lance]

What should I look for in a scepter beside spirit and int? Playing lightning spear

Using hyrri and want to have cast on critical

[plucky blaze]

For people who switch from LS amazon to LS deadeye, is it worth rerolled for LS deadeye or should I keep playing LS amazon ? is the damage increase substantial ? (currently at tier 3 mapping)

[crystal drift]

is any1 able to help me with my frost mage lich build? my biggest problem mapping is ill be moving forward to drop command bombs and my skellys all get stuck 2 rooms behind me on a random white mod they try to slowly auto attack down and i end almost dying in the next room cause the command skill wont work cause they are too far away or not in line of sight?

[shadow zephyr]

zealoth's oath doesn't replace life regen, it says if your life is full your life regen then applies to ES.

That'll include everything that applies to your Life Regen normally, %up, etc.

The really important thing to remember is that all your recharge%/start nodes become useless with it, b/c no recharge.

But it also means you have to be at full health to get ES back, which can be rough if they hit hard enough to take out all your ES in one chunk.

[young hinge]

good synergy is an attack build with strong leech and a bit of life regen , then u can tack on a decent pool of es with little investment which replenishes very easily if that makes sense

[atomic halo]

you cannot leech with bleed in the first place, because bleed is damage over time, and you cannot leech from damage over time.

you can only leech from his, i.e., the hit that inflicts the bleed in the first place

which may be an attack or spell depending on your build (probably attack), in which case both would work.

and note that the key difference is that the weapon mod is local, so it only applies to attacks made with the weapon, while the ring mod is global, so it applies to all attacks.

"attacks" is omitted from the weapon because any hit with the weapon is consequently an attack. therefore, it cannot provide leech for any non-attack hit.

[cedar aspen]

Ok thank you this is really helpful as I want to invest into it, as I want to change the way that ES recharges making it almost instant. Which I believe it will do in this case.

So in that case to scale my ES using Zealots Oath, I’d have to look into getting Life regen, max life, max Energy Shield. Anything else?

[cedar aspen]

So life leech would work with this also?

[young hinge]

the leech can fill ur life very fast and keep it filled . leech doesnt then go to es though just any life regen u have

[cedar aspen]

But if excess life regeneration goes to ES then life leech doesn’t? Or are you saying that once you leech life, it causes that regeneration of ES to happen quicker? Sorry for the confusion

[obsidian nimbus]

anyone got a linnk to a good bloodmage build and how they lvled?

[static plinth]

Life Leech isnt Life Regeneration

[young hinge]

yep,

ofc leech isnt mandatory its just how i approach it as an attack build player

its easy to recover life but harder to stack maximum life pool
the wheel beside zealots oath can give u 2k+es just from wearing a decent body and shield with armor/es

[static plinth]

Regen is a specific thing

[cedar aspen]

Alright thanks for the advice il see what I can do with all of that. Many thanks! Any other tips for using zealots for ES gains then happy to hear them.

[young hinge]

smith of kitava has a nice node for regen life (5% max life per sec)

[cedar aspen]

I’m being odd and trying to get this to work for my Lich. But good to know!

The only other thing I saw online that pairs well with Zealots Oath is Eternal Youth, but that’s quite literally on the opposite side of the passive tree

[young hinge]

life recharge isnt counted as 'regeneration' so those two nodes dont really interact

[mortal swift]

Can get shavronne unique belt

Has useful part of eternal youth

[hasty cradle]

Hey guys i was thinking of building the lighting spear build but was wondering what ascendancy would be best for it . The invoker ,Amazon or deadeye?

[fallen violet]

amazon is best for LS build

[hasty cradle]

Bet i appreciate it

[fathom rover]

can i get some suggestions on a bleed fragmentation rounds amazon? 67 atm and doing alright but feel like i could be doing much better

[sly lava]

how can i anoint Finality to amulet?

[crystal drift]

is there a way to lower cooldown/ recharge of command skills for minions?

[shadow zephyr]

If you're making it work with Lich, take the ascendancy passive that says your life can't change while you have energy shield.

Then take Blood Mage (it's a a little ways below Zealot's Oath) and do away with your mana entirely- you cast with life, now, and no longer need mana mods on your gear.

Except your life total can't change as long as you have energy shield, which is now constantly refilling using your Life Regeneration Stat, no recharge wait necessary.

You can spam spells forever and you'll never run out of casting resource; as long as your life total is high enough to actually meet the 'mana' requirement for the spell, you'll just cast infinitely.

And Eternal Youth can be used to keep your ES topped up. (If you go for it)

(I feel like there's an incredibly powerful use for Mana Tempest here, for the record)

This is also bleed/poison immunity without CI as long as your energy shield is up, b/c those both skip ES and target life directly...which still can't change b/c it didn't eat your ES.

[mighty drum]

Anyone playing with rake (or whatever other skill tbh) using support gems Ambrosia and Concot ? How r u managing flask fills or is it for pinnacle only? poe2.ninja calculations show 3x DOT damage with Concot, although I would assume that extra layer of stuff to manage while mapping would lead to burn out?

[mortal swift]

Can't use blood mage if life can't change my guy

[wide marlin]

Is there a restriction on loosing whirling slash charges other than stepping out? Sometime I do the spin animation but dont get the charge.

[plain saddle]

Are you interrupting your animation with shield/buckle?

[carmine flicker]

Wow, all this post is just wrong

You can't use blood magic with lich
And if hit remove all ES the rest goes to life

And ZO doesn't even work with lich
(Probably bug)

[mortal swift]

[mortal swift]

Are you sure about this? Maybe you need to be not full hp. I know a lot of other recovery effects only work if it's like that

[ashen shell]

what's the most desirable/overpowered pure support build atm?

I'm doing rarity block bot but defense is not that desirable, i tried cursebot at first but stacking curse magnitude was really meh, now I'm wondering if it'd be better to just max out rarity and nothing else cuz at least i can reach 500-600 rarity that way

i think next best thing is minmaxing time freeze but obv that's mostly useful for bosses and rares and doesn't increase dps.
the 20% presence slow seems cool but again it's technically half effective in multiplayer so it's more like 10% with 50% less magnitude

[mortal swift]

Can do lich unholy if you want to do DMG aura

[ashen shell]

oh yeah lich unholy could be fun

it's 30% base with inc magnitude with mana?

[mortal swift]

Yes

4% more per 100

[ashen shell]

and 3 curses hmm

[mortal swift]

Indeed

[ashen shell]

and chaos explosion

actually yeah that's dope imma level a lich asap

[mortal swift]

[carmine flicker]

Yeah, sure
It's smth about ZO try to give excess life regen into es
But life can't be changed, so regen end up zero

[mortal swift]

Ah might be, I know shavronne has issues if you're full life, so have to run it at less than

[carmine flicker]

Zo ONLY works when you are at full
So yeah

[mortal swift]

Ah right

[carmine flicker]

Ehh, I burned out of poe2
Everything is slow and weak
Except spear builds
But I don't want to play those

[mortal swift]

Nah

Impending doom

Beira

Cold snap

Frost mages

[carmine flicker]

Storm mages kinda ok
But my 5k es, 2k life and 1.5k mana is removed in t3 map in like 2 seconds by 3-4 white mobs
Wtf, man

[mortal swift]

Nah no way

How

There's lots of good builds RN btw, gotta explore

[carmine flicker]

Idk
If I stand ans tank those I die in 2 sec

[mortal swift]

Well obviously

You're a mage

You can take like one or two hits before having to disengage unless you specifically spec into defenses

[carmine flicker]

Well
Non-mage die even quicker cause armour doesn't work for shit and warrior have like 3k life, insted of total 9k pool

[mortal swift]

By this I mean like 9k es alone

[mortal swift]

Nah warriors need to spec block if they want to tank

You can't build full glass cannon and redirect to live right

[mortal swift]

Btw armor will early survive your first scenario

[carmine flicker]

Block is chance based
Means you die to random chain of being unlucky and getting 4 hits in a row

I did play block

[mortal swift]

Armor fails against one shots in the literal way

[mortal swift]

No, if 4 hits land armor itself will protect

Only one shots kill

And big hits need to be manually blocked with shield

Raised shield will always block

[carmine flicker]

Also block is wailing wall or warbringer
Well...

[carmine flicker]

Against anything that isn't aoe, lol

[mortal swift]

Well yes

[carmine flicker]

Most oneshots ARE aoe

[mortal swift]

Eh, smashes are meant to kill any class

[carmine flicker]

Stupid dark soul of arpg

[mortal swift]

Me likey

Better than cookie clicker sim

[carmine flicker]

I tried to lile poe2
I can't

[mortal swift]

Strokes folks etc etc

Maybe you like more in a later patch

[edgy dust]

So is the Dark effigy stuff just not working right or is the wording wrong? On the skill it says it lasts 8 sec but then when i go into skill info it says it lasts for 7 sec. Ok now i went ALL they way across the tree to get to the node where they last 30% longer....still only last 7 sec....???

[mortal swift]

What node did you get

[edgy dust]

spirit bond

[mortal swift]

Also you might have reduced duration somewhere somehow

Or over abundance

[edgy dust]

wait let me check i think i have that on..

[sick gulch]

building minions on which and dont know if i should go inernalist or lich?

[edgy dust]

yup thank you for that!

[sick gulch]

opinions?

[carmine flicker]

Also beira build sounds original at least
Everything else is meh
Command frost mages is just self cast build with useless minions(that die 24/7 and disable your spell!) attached
Impending is mana stack. Again
After nerfed to oblivion
Cold snap is..
Man, I rather click comet, less clicks at least

[mortal swift]

It's not nerfed, it's using unholy might from lich

[mortal swift]

Do thorns

[carmine flicker]

Unholy is many times weaker than archimage was

[carmine flicker]

Thorns fall of at t15-t16 hard

So why bother

[mortal swift]

Nah I'm believer

I will make it work

[carmine flicker]

I don't care about believing
Only about numbers

And they aren't best

[mortal swift]

Yes that's what I'm believing in

[mortal swift]

Did you see the rune buffs

[carmine flicker]

Yeah

[mortal swift]

It's like 1300 base DMG

[carmine flicker]

I'm not worried about damage
I'm worried about delivery of it without dying

[mortal swift]

Yes that I have to work on

I hope to test Chrono for it

[carmine flicker]

I mean, everything but oneshots can be done with vaal pact+thorns leech

You are at full
Or dead
So you are dead

Cause you can't afford to be hit by bosses
But you need
Thorns

[mortal swift]

So it's good you say

I need to see how some of the uniques work

[carmine flicker]

Imagine doing ultimatum with thorns
Storm Bird will shred you

[mortal swift]

Do you know how that unique that reserves life instead of taking DMG works?

[carmine flicker]

Really bad for thorns, lol
It's heavy self nerf for everyone but those who pay life costs like crazy and goes for life recharge nodes

[mortal swift]

How does it work tho

I don't understand it

[sick gulch]

lich or infernalist for minions?

[carmine flicker]

How would you deal with bosses again?
That oneshot you
So you can't afford to be hit

[mortal swift]

Do you still die to oneshots

[carmine flicker]

Yeah

[mortal swift]

Not every boss hit one shots

You dodge/block the ones that do

[carmine flicker]

You take 4000 damage
Instead of removing 4000 life it reserve 4000 life
Well
If you had less than 4000 life you are dead

[mortal swift]

Hmm don't get the point then

If I will die anyway

Then why reserve

[carmine flicker]

I did ultimatum a lot
Best way to kill bosses there is to not let them hit you
Cause storm bird don't play
It murders

[carmine flicker]

Cause it doesn't count as damage
So effects that end on being damaged doesn't end

Like life recharge
That you pay for skill with that globe shield etc

So you continue recharging life even if you take random hit

Also since it reserve - when reservation ends(5 seconds) you are "at full" again

So every damage repair itself after 5 seconds of not taking any damage

...and that's really bad, lol

[carmine flicker]

Inferno for minions
Lich for glorified spells on legs you need to cast

[mortal swift]

Ahh

[sick gulch]

Thank you for the response. i am literally picking now. Want to run a badass minion build, thanks

[mortal swift]

Why tho? Lich buff is big for normal minions as well

[carmine flicker]

Cause for "free" spirit from inferno you can reserve extra like 4 random minions that will buff muster

That's 28% more just from that
No need to bother yourself with minions staying in your presence and all

[mortal swift]

I suppose

[carmine flicker]

Also doggy
Doggy cool

It holds aggro, it apply fire exposure for free, it take some damage for you

And, well, it's cool doggy

[mortal swift]

It doesn't take DMG anymore

[carmine flicker]

It does

[mortal swift]

Well sure in a general sense it does

[carmine flicker]

Loyale companion support

[mortal swift]

Lol

[carmine flicker]

Or w/e it's called

[mortal swift]

Don't need doggy for that tho

[carmine flicker]

You kinda need

You don't want to spend % of your spirit on summoner

You have like 600 spirit
Even 20% of it is "too damn much"

Ans dog is free

[mortal swift]

I suppose

[carmine flicker]

Dog need 10 spirit
For that 20% more life support
Affordable

And even that is optional
But it makes it bigger
So bigger burning aura, bigger aggro etc

Anyway
Being that squishy is annoying
Basically all gameplay is to run around everything in circles
Only way to not be hit
And.. tbh that's far from "dream gameplay"

(sometimes it's possible to hide around the corner and wait till everything dies
That kinda better)

[mortal swift]

Wait for my recoup build

[carmine flicker]

Recoup.. kinda ok
With double recoup body I guess

[mortal swift]

And Chrono

[mortal swift]

You talking about es recoup body?

[carmine flicker]

Then get some mana recoup on top
Some damage goes to mana
And % of mana as thorns support

[carmine flicker]

Yeah

[mortal swift]

Where's this one

The support

[carmine flicker]

It's for channel skills

[mortal swift]

Huh

That makes like zero sense WTF

xD

[carmine flicker]

When ggg made sense, lol

Also it kinda does
It protects you while you are channeling
By.. killing attackers
Slowly
Ehh

No
No sense

[mortal swift]

I mean I suppose it makes sense, might be good for bossing DMG

[carmine flicker]

For thorns you want to attack

To trigger thorns supports

[mortal swift]

I know I'm thinking rapid assault

[carmine flicker]

Not.. look pretty challenging incinerate or smth

[mortal swift]

I wonder if thorns support snapshots

[carmine flicker]

But recoup chrono with mana stack might even work
Now how would you kill things.. ?

[mortal swift]

Would be interesting to channel to snapshot crackling DMG onto quill burst

[mortal swift]

Thorns

[carmine flicker]

And what about things that doesn't really attack you?

[mortal swift]

Like what

I mean I could just rake with the thorns supports

[carmine flicker]

Like random rare that keep spamming those chaos purple dots and doing mostly nothing besides that

[mortal swift]

To kill those

I haven't fully planned yet tbh it's wip

I still need to level

[carmine flicker]

And chrono have like.. 1 useful node

You probably don't want to REDUCE enemy speed on thorns build

[mortal swift]

Well depends, is a balance bw how much recoup can handle and speed of enemy

If I have no reduce maybe t15+ impossible

[carmine flicker]

Tbh your life should always be full

Cause leech/vaal pact

So only mana recoup matters

And that one should be way over 100%

Wow
EB kitava
(Kitava for easy 90 all res)
For 3k life/6k mana
That's like a lot of ehp

Except phys
Phys still kills you dead

[mighty drum]

is this OK with 30rage stacks Rake Dash in combat? Tangletongue is -200k dmg of all bleeds but feels better when mapping in packed maps (I think DPS of that unique spear could be adjusted even more, as it's not even 2socket one)

[mortal swift]

But why get Leech at all

[carmine flicker]

Cause it's almost free

Question is
Why the hell not

[mortal swift]

No it's not

The tree pathing has next to no nodes

[carmine flicker]

Well
Patching is bit sad
But w/e
Not like you need a lot of.. anything

[mortal swift]

You need crit nodes, recoup nodes, thorns nodes

[mortal swift]

[carmine flicker]

You need ONE recoup node

For 20% mana

[mortal swift]

[carmine flicker]

Thorns damage is all same place more or less

Thorns crit too

[mortal swift]

Lightning rod so busted for this btw

[carmine flicker]

Ehh
Good luck with that
I should look at last epoch probably till next poe1 league

[mighty drum]

Fingers crossed some of LE crafting will come into poe2 as it is becoming harder to slot machine my items

[carmine flicker]

Fingers crossing for poe1 not dying horrible death

[mighty drum]

We will chip in for poe1 life support dw

[green spruce]

Anyone here happen to know if the "Ice Fragments" created by the Glacial Lance skill are considered "Ice Crystals?" AKA wondering if the Veriglas support gem would do anyhtign for Glacial Lance.

[low glacier]

Is Wave of Frost a bad clearing skill for an ice invoker?

[cedar aspen]

Il give this a try! Its a long shot mind you and il have to start farming for some life regen gear as well as whatever nodes are available but this sounds interesting thanks! Love a challenge.

[cedar aspen]

ZO does work, but you do need to be on full life for it to work. I just tried it out because I wanted to see what it would be like, even if my char is only in act3 right now. It works, but it’s slow because I don’t have much life regen right now. Il play around with it though for sure

[young hinge]

its mainly for applying freeze

[mortal swift]

That's what I figured

[timid cloud]

i think they are as they said they are ice crystals in the tooltip

[green spruce]

@timid cloud I mean they are called ice fragments in the tooltip. So going with what your saying. Taking it literal then Verglas would do nothign then.

[timid cloud]

I socketed glacial lance with ice bite, martial tempo, primal armament, perpetual charge and deliberation(or you can use longshot)

Embitter also work on it if you have sacred flame scepter

It's so op with deadeye class

It also works on Amazon but Deadeye is just better I guess defense and offense-wise

[magic pier]

So chat, why is Sacred Flame so chased after this league?

[mortal swift]

It's op

You do kind of all DMG types but you only need one pen

[heady dune]

it provides damage via extra fire and ele pen

unlike rare scepters that offer no offensive stats at all

so you have offensive stats + 100 extra spirit to play with

also it gives a decent boost to fire res so you can forget about that on your gear

[storm plaza]

Which is better for whirling slash, Soul Core of Quipolatl or Great rune of Alacrity?

[green tree]

Hi chat 2 questions, how does bursting plague work bc plague burst doesnt work for me

Also how does poison and crit synergy work, bigger crit means bigger poison drain?

[dawn spire]

What part of plague burst isn't working?

And the magnitude of poison is based on the pre-mitigation damage of the physical and chaos damage of the hit that inflicts it. So critting would result in a higher dps poison, yes

[green tree]

Theres a plague burst .10 second skill thats greyed out when I use the gem, idk if I did something wrong to not be able to use it?

Oh epic, thank you!

[dawn spire]

Read bursting plague carefully. I don't know why it gives you a new button, but it triggers plague burst automatically when an enemy with plague dies

[green tree]

Yeah thats what I figured, I was confused why the button was there like you could manually burst it? Either way thanks for clarifying!

[frigid pawn]

I'm cooking up a spear sceptre, minion companion witch build. Pray for me

[dawn spire]

I would pray for you, but I have no idea where the spears fit in

[frigid pawn]

Do you not need it for animal companion?

[dawn spire]

nope

[frigid pawn]

oh damn well then lol, guess I can just be not weird and use a wand lol

[dawn spire]

wait why a wand? why not sceptre + shield if you're going minions?

what does a wand offer you?

[frigid pawn]

I guess I want to press unearth a couple of times? Another solid point lol

[dawn spire]

early on, yeah, go for it I guess. I've never figured out how to make unearth work utilizing both minions and the spell

[frigid pawn]

You're very much right I think. But we'll see how it goes

[dawn spire]

I'm not saying it can't work, I'm just saying I never cracked it

[tidal birch]

Is the basic principle of defense in poe2 still the same as in poe1, meaning that you get good defenses, if you layer different defenses on top of each other?

[dawn spire]

in endgame, yeah. Sort of. Some might argue that ES on its (plus capped res) is enough. Though combining it with evasion is very strong, mostly because of the synergy between the two as well as the very good ES/EVA hybrid nodes on the tree.

But there are other strong combos like smith of kitava's 25% of phys taken as fire + max res, infernalist's damage taken conversions, block (especially with warbringer) and acrobatics (with enough evasion)

[proven rapids]

yeah

[dawn spire]

and of course you need the basic layers like capped resistance, stun/ailment threshold to not get perma-cced, and enough of an hp pool to not get one-shot

[tidal birch]

whats the best way to get stun threshold?

[dawn spire]

maximum life

or, if you're ES/CI, get nodes that give you stun threshold based off of ES

[carmine flicker]

so was fixed
cool

[supple jay]

does %increased fire damage work with beira's anguish?

[dawn spire]

it should

[supple jay]

or what about beiras + blackflame

[tidal birch]

thanks for the answers ❤️

[supple jay]

I doubt crit spell damage bonus should work with beira's right

it might count as a spell but prolly not

[celest blaze]

Alright, folks, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

People talk about the great mobility with spears, but while disengage seems pretty great to travel backwards, Rake has you jump like 1/10th foot forward and doesn't cancel out of existing animations like Shield Charge.

What am I missing here?

[dawn spire]

only hits can crit, and Beira's ignites as though dealing X damage, it doesn't actually hit. so crit is useless

[hollow bronze]

What's the name of the spell levels jewel anybody know?

[dawn spire]

blackflame should work as expected with Beira's

[supple jay]

regular crit bonus works with beira's when the enemy has crit weakness applied to them

for some reason

most likely bugged

[dawn spire]

actually works or the tooltip says it works?

[supple jay]

https://youtu.be/bX7F7zv0ywk?si=bYQ_aisPpOPe_A8S

[dawn spire]

wild

[main mica]

hello, does anyone know if pob2 supports companion yet? i don't seem to be able to import my companion skill

[dawn spire]

if there's no tame beast gem, then no

[main mica]

well it sees the tame beast gem, but not the transformed one which summons the companion

[cedar aspen]

Well like I said that’s when you’re on full life, il have to do some testing to see if it happens when you select certain ascendancies like Eternal Youth

[oblique sluice]

hello, does anyone know at what item-granted skill level do you get 4 support gem sockets?

[celest blaze]

no, it's very frustratingly hard to find. I think it's somewhere around 16?

[oblique sluice]

i found it in the wiki. hopefully it's accurate. so that's ilvl 65
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Gem_socket#Skills_granted_by_items_and_passive_skills

[celest blaze]

Prism of Belief

[celest blaze]

ah, nice, that wasn't there when I went looking last. Skill level 15, not 16, I was close.

I know it wasn't 14 (RIP)

[oblique sluice]

just watch out for ilevel? apparently ilvl 64 can have skill level 15 with only three slots

[celest blaze]

because of course it can, crazy

[mighty drum]

how valuable is % additional Physical damage reduction? Where does it fit into damage received calculation, maybe someone could explain in layman terms?

[hollow bronze]

which one woulfd be best for a chao lich you think?

[gilded tangle]

Which storm mage build are u all using?

[celest blaze]

I mean, what's your main damaging skill? It would be that one.

Sorry, I'm a warrior totem fellow, so I have no idea here, but in general your primary damage skill is the one you should be scaling.

[hollow bronze]

I'm using Essence Drain which is chao and i couldn't find anything liker that besides the chao res one and the blasphemy

[static plinth]

ED or Dark Effigy are ideal

[celest blaze]

ED is not cheap lol: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn of the Hunt/Rndw4OBc7

+2 are worth more than my entire build put togheter by... a lot

+3... forget about it. Maybe Dark Effigy is slightly better, but, they are just pricey jewels generally

[cursive girder]

can someone help me understand how "% increased lightning damage" on a ring works. is that global? trying to understand if that's better/worse than just getting flat + damage to attacks on a ring

[static plinth]

If it wasnt global, it wouldnt do anything

[plain saddle]

It's global

[fair bobcat]

Hello i am a beginner does It make sense tò try tò build a demon form that has high regen and tò assign tò it some melee spell? What kind of spell could be fun tò assign tò it? I dont know every spell

[plain saddle]

Try yourself this is what this game is about

Trying and creating builds

If you won't succeed you will learn something at least

[simple whale]

hey there, i havent found anything useful regarding prism of belief. Is it possible to have multiple prism of belief?

[fluid geode]

U can only equip one. Usually ppl buy the one of their main attack skill to get +3 lvl to scale the damage further

You wont find it useful if you are not well geared enough. Its more of a final touch thing. Better to upgrade your other gears.

[civic sapphire]

Need lightning spear help 😦 What’s generally better? Lycosidae unique sheild for double accuracy/block chance or an omen sceptre with spirit/stats?

[simple whale]

thanks 🙂 Im stacking melee skill lvl on spearfield, current gear is around ~10-15div, spearfield feels underrated

[heavy haven]

So like why isnt whirling slash in the first zone anymore

[mortal swift]

How can it not be useful tho it's like 40% more DMG on a +3 roll

[mighty drum]

what's the point of 40% more damage if I do not have everything min/maxed AND free jewel slot?

I agree with the person before, this should be finishing touch, not the core

[fluid geode]

Relative to the cost of the jewel and the difficulty in finding them, its not cost efficient if you aint well geared enough

[mighty drum]

imagine having 50d upgrade while your chaos res is 45% https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Dawn of the Hunt/3WMRDg9I5

[mortal swift]

It depends, it could still be your best upgrade at mid game vs other options

Especially on lvl dependant skills

[fluid geode]

that dont rly exist now as scaling is way more linear

[simple whale]

and here i am rocking with 10% chaos from cruel act

[mortal swift]

? Most gem scalings are still exponential

[mighty drum]

can say your road to 90+ will be cruel with such attitude

[mortal swift]

"no need res if they can't hit me"

[mighty drum]

I will block chance that

[simple whale]

im at lvl 90+65%, i have spent like 1-2 divs on omen of resurgence already 😂

[mortal swift]

Me and my 1000 evasion walking into t17 map

[fluid geode]

im a totem user, in 0.1 the scaling is like a cliff. now its like a gentle slope.

[simple whale]

i have oogabooga mindset, kill them before they can hit me

[mighty drum]

I like to gather whole map into one spot and decapitate the biggest one in front all of them

their blood boils and one by one they explode while I loot

I should've kept this inside ritualist churh I guess sorry boys

[low glacier]

Does anyone know if either Elemental Expression or Unbound Avatar is worth getting for Invoker?

[fathom rover]

is thousand cuts generally worth for bleed builds?

[mighty drum]

you don't need it unless you want to utilize Incision

[scenic dawn]

Does anyone know why my lightning hits are doing freeze instead of shock?

doesnt even make sense why as the only thing with cold is 1/4 on my ring

the rest is all lightning

confusing me big time

[static plinth]

Are you wearing The Three Dragons

Or Call of The Brotherhood

[night wedge]

Hey, I tried asking it in PoE2 general but it moves a bit too fast. I have a silly Ritualist idea that might be fun if it works, but I have no ritualist to test. Thoughts?

• The sacrifice spirit gem notoriously doesn't check if your summons are actually undead: as long as they're reviving you can use them as corpses.
• Companions are minions, and can be targeted through sacrifice as if they were corpses.
• Ritualist targets a rare mob corpse to get its mods.

So... If I'm reading the above right, you should be able to sacrifice your own (alive) companion for 4 mods of your choice with perma uptime, right?

so, sacrifice + ritual sacrifice + tame beast

[scenic dawn]

everything i have on is just normal only unique is deaths harp

[turbid haven]

is it possible to check other peoples characters online?

[spare arch]

what s best class for bosses in end game?

pinacle

or smth like this

[halcyon osprey]

Hmm, for Lightning Spear, is the physical damage very minimal? Using Essentia Sanguis for converting life leech to ES leech (I have 9% life leech), and not seeing any leech at all.

[quartz cairn]

So for builds that are using Artillery Ballista, especially tactician.. what is used for general clearing? Siege cascade or ballista?

[magic pier]

hmmm

how can i kill my own companion?

[mighty drum]

I believe he mentioned https://poe2db.tw/Sacrifice

[coarse cypress]

Does the mace that makes all attacks empowered work with temper weapon?

[mighty drum]

the problem I see is ritual sacrifise has casting animation which can be canceled probably only with shield/buckle skill?

[magic pier]

oh i get
so i'm supposed to be able to use my companion in place of a corpse?

[mighty drum]

Yes if companion is minion

[low glacier]

How can Monk trigger a lot of Frenzy Charges?

[magic pier]

doesn't look like it works
can't even use some other skills that target corpses like profane ritual

[solar walrus]

rerolled from amazon to ritualist last night, does anyone have any suggestions for changes? it feels quite strong but maybe something is not popping out to me

https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/18wgipejwz1k5/Shalomie-9796/ShmeatCurtains

[magic pier]

i'm using a 100% inc Lightning damage focus instead of sunsplitter

[solar walrus]

is it better?

the max all ele res is quite good from sunsplitter and i don't need the energy shield from a focus

[magic pier]

the damage is higher than the +1 level to skills and you use less mana, but i don't have Hyrri's so the evasion is probably better for you than it is for me

[solar walrus]

Interesting. This sunsplitter rolled +3. I wonder how it compares

[magic pier]

+3 to lightning?

[solar walrus]

Yeah

[magic pier]

you can probably drop the accuracy wheel for a jewel slot

[magic pier]

huh

[solar walrus]

It can go to+4

+4 is $$$$$

[solar walrus]

Maybe. When i drop crit chance there it goes below 100/100 on tangletongue

[magic pier]

when i hold alt it doesn't give a range on the skill levels, how weird

[solar walrus]

Would need to make up the crit somehow

[solar walrus]

Yep game is good

They all can go 1 to 4

[mighty drum]

why did you spec there so many damage nodes, oh nevermind, I did not look at the gear

[magic pier]

it's just 16% crit chance, a jewel can roll up to that much. while also giving you 3 other things

[solar walrus]

Dont need energy shield

Basically neo from the matrix

[magic pier]

the tongue doesn't tangle without those xdd

[mighty drum]

yeah boys I am sorry lol

[solar walrus]

🤣

I made like 80 divines so I balled out

[mighty drum]

from passive tree it looks like you run naked in maps

[solar walrus]

It does t4 simulacrum

No problem

[magic pier]

Hyrri's do be like that

[solar walrus]

Ill look into crit jewel to replace that node

Falcon dive is a good chunk of attack speed tho

[magic pier]

how much atk speed is it even giving you?

[mighty drum]

I did not hesitate to remove it after I switched from Amazon to Ritualist https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1ptfqjd265ant/makima-6690/ChaHaeI

[magic pier]

because the accuracy is a lot less valuable without the amazon stuff

[solar walrus]

It was more when I was amazon i gotta login to see what my accuracy is in tooltip

[mighty drum]

yeah what accuracy

I have Overextend on my damage skill

[solar walrus]

Ninja doesnt show actual accuracy idk why

[idle laurel]

"Cut the gem, equip, then target a RARE BEAST ELITE and kill it within ~10sec " does anyone know what is meant with cut the gem? it's about the tame beast skill

[static plinth]

The way it works is that one mod will always be 1, one 2, and one 3. You cant have multiple of the same number which is why it doesnt show ranges

[static plinth]

Rares are the enemies with yellow health bars and a bunch of modifiers

[mighty drum]

you use skill on RARE BEAST and you have 10s to kill him

[static plinth]

Use Tame Beast on one thats a Beast to capture it

[idle laurel]

ah okay thanks

[static plinth]

While Tame Beast is socketed you can see the monster's category to know for sure if its a beast or not

[mighty drum]

now go catch them all

[static plinth]

Just one

[idle laurel]

x)

[mighty drum]

You can stash them into separate tab

Honestly the best ones are saplings from Hive

[keen spindle]

hey guys, im running amazon critical strike and this is my crt rate. just wondering how +83.16% affect my actual 67.66 critical hit chance

is it additive or multiplicative? or other formula? like with this estimated crt chance, how much would my actual crt chance icnrease?

[simple whale]

if im right your base is 67.66% and coming from other sources depeding on the range between you and the mobs you have between 83.16% and 115.83% crit chance

[keen spindle]

no i dont think this is right, As i compared a tangletounge with diff crt rate and the only thing that changed is the actual crt chance, not the estimated one

the estimated one only changes with accuracy changes

so i think its a separate multiplier

like these are the same weapon (tangletounge). everything else is the same except the crt rate of the weapon, and as u can see only the actual crt rate changes and not the estimated crt rate

[solar walrus]

I have been going based on the effective crit chance numbers

In this case the 89% and 45% value

The rest i try to ignore

For me i got the twice crit effective chance to 100% then stopped scaling crit chance

[keen spindle]

oh i see what u mean. that 89% might as well be the actual crt rate

[solar walrus]

Yep. And since you use tangletongue you have a chance of critting a second time with the same hit. So the 45% could go higher

[wide herald]

so the Bones of Ullr "Undead minions have 20% reduced reservation" works on all specters, right? Does that mean it also works for The Dark Defiler's "Gain 5% of damage as chaos damage per undead minion"? And if so, then wouldn't it be possible to get like 50 terracotta soldiers and get 250% of damage as chaos?

[solar walrus]

Crit from the tree is additive where crit on your weapon is multiplicative

[keen spindle]

thats tru, also how did u scaled that 45% to 100%? like are u using the shield that doubles accuracy?

[solar walrus]

So if u hit a crit chance wall get a new tangletongue

[solar walrus]

I play ritualist now

My tree i took like every crit node

[keen spindle]

owhh i see

[static plinth]

You have a 67% chance to crit, the 89% is then a flat crit chance (ie you have a combined 165% chance to crit)

So you could probably drop some crit or accuracy

And since its over 100%, you have a 100% chance for double crits with Tangletongue

[keen spindle]

oh so its flat increase?

[static plinth]

Yeah

After stuff like %inc crit

[keen spindle]

but why does it says only 89? is that not including the estimated crt chance from node?

[static plinth]

Thats crit chance from the Amazon node

With 0 other sources of crit your chance would be 89% from that node by itself

Or do you mean the estimated chance for crit from Tangletongue

That isnt factoring in the Amazon chance to crit, since that amount of crit varies based on the opponent's evasion (thats why it says 83 - 115%, its guessing based on the expected evasion rating of monsters)

[keen spindle]

wait, isnt the estimated crt chance from the amazon node? and the 2 effective chance from the tangletounge?

[static plinth]

Yeah

[static plinth]

I misunderstood you, it isnt including amazon crit

Thats your chances with just your normal crit

[keen spindle]

oh so the effective chance its displaying for the tangletoung doesnt include the estimated chance from the node

gotcfha gotcha

[static plinth]

Yeah

With amazon crit you should have a 100% double crit rate 99% of the time

Maybe not quite if youre blind against an Evasive mob or smthin

[keen spindle]

ahh so im overcapping on crt then, maybe its good if i run supercritical gem

aii man, tnx!

[static plinth]

Supercritical would be good yeah

[solar walrus]

Im pretty confident u should ignore the amazon crit chance part of the tool tip. I was convinced it was missleading me when playing amazon.

Take the effective crit chance up to 100 and u will notice an impact on cast on crit energy generation

[coarse cypress]

If I use a support gem that give an ability a cooldown, does it give that ability the cooldown tag or can I still use unleash on it?

[strong swan]

What support skills can be added into malice?

I got a Malice scepter for boss dps

But wanted to know if i can add any support to improve the effect

[dawn spire]

persistence and magnified effect work, I'm pretty sure

[orchid cosmos]

Any fun build ideas?

[simple whale]

im going raw with spearfield scaling

[pale stag]

I got a question for people about the Penetrate amazon node. Does the %Increased physical damage on a spear increase the bonus gained from accuracy?

[hearty whale]

is there a way to get information on how much dps my current equipped weapon has?

Im not talking about the Skill dps detail in the G Panel

[pale stag]

You can copy paste it into path of building

[hearty whale]

how do I copy paste?

[deep bramble]

Is Ice Bomb any good to work with?

[snow arch]

how do blood mages actually get a usable bleed chance if they aren't using the physical spells

[hearty whale]

ty I figured 🙂

[pearl sluice]

Does this scale if ignite manitude and does it do chaos damage with blackflame equiped?

[pale stag]

Ctrl+C ingame on the item, Ctrl+V into path of building while in the items menu

[snow arch]

it should scale but you should understand how meaningless 100 base ignite is

[hearty whale]

you should understand how its not. theres exists a broken build with igniting lol prolly gets nerfed tho

[snow arch]

you're not talking about the whirling slash thing are you

[hearty whale]

cant remember the name rn

i just know it ignites and makes poof

[pearl sluice]

@snow arch oh i totally get 100 damage ignite hits do not that much damage, but right now its about 50 dps or so if both stacks?

i do like 50% more chaos damage taken and -30 chaos res

AND ignite magnitute

for passive damage on the side while acting i think its fine

its just so i dont have to attack every single monster with my bad aoe

[real plaza]

Can you change the rune in a socket on a corrupted item?

[pearl sluice]

yes

[static plinth]

Yeah, its basically treated as flat damage

[static plinth]

Elemental Sundering? Firestorm? Poison Arrow? Anything that uses Radiant Grief's Ignite does NOT care about the damage

[pale stag]

That is wild. I assumed it was added after. So a spear with 400 accuracy, and 100% increased damage, gets 200 flat damage bonus?

[snow arch]

100 flat

I don't think it applies to the weapons other affixes

[lone citrus]

can someone tell me which youtuber has best huntress build now running MrRonit bunget mapping

[sage compass]

Running infernalist minion. Any minion build people can help me with what minions they using for breach? Waiting for Vaal and spectres deactivating when I get too far always be killing me.

[late lodge]

Is Heatproofing NOT good for Smith of Kitava? It seems like it would be with the 25% dmg converted to fire but I don't see any builds online using it.

[unreal zinc]

i used to use this build https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/edea985c-6fc2-45d1-bb19-c3b82d2b0ed8/builds/eb4458f4-1e2a-46aa-abcb-dce76bc554a2

can anyone send me an updated version similar to it?

I would like to reach endgame without starting over/cahnging drastically

[steady flint]

Can someone explain to me what the stat "life recovery rate" entails? Is it only from regeneration? Or does it also affect effects such as life leech, life recoup and other effects from uniques such as Defiance of Destiny amulet?

I guess the same questions kind of apply to "mana recovery rate" and "energy shield recovery rate"

[midnight obsidian]

rate implies it's over time

any instant leech/gain-on-hit or defiance of destiny doesn't apply

[manic kite]

does add damage effect stomping ground? like howa. since stomping ground is an attack

[steady flint]

Does leech over time and recoup apply then?

[mighty drum]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Regeneration

regeneration is automatic process with +x% per minute modifiers for life, mana or energy shield

[steady flint]

Automatic can mean both persistant effects as in regeneration, and can also mean that and conditional effects such as recoup/leech, hence my confusion about the stat..

Im just trying to find a use for the Ritualist ascendancy node. If its only for regeneration its kind of useless right now..

The only use for it is thats its a changing life regen, so you could in theory go low life with Ritualist by balancing it perfectly with regen/degen and using Cowards Legacy belt, but not enough to be gained from that yet. Pain attunement is to far away..

You could make an absolute unit with this and Rise of the Phoenix shield and health stacking, but then again there is no use for this when ES is king

[mighty drum]

conditional would be +x% life regeneration when mercury is in retrograde recoup during your received damange calculation, leeching happens when you inflict damage

[honest grail]

finished my build guide for the league

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwDl6967zi4

[honest grail]

armour is bad for smith in general because you use normal armour

heatproofing applies before res iirc so it's pretty bleh

smith builds should just go capped block and take unwavering stance and get some additional pdr from chest corrupt and shield

you can tank everything physical and ignore stuns completely with that

[proud condor]

I wish it was life recovery, not rate so it would work with Defiance of Destiny

There's only one node on the entire tree (15%)

[static reef]

anyone have OP twister to share, prefer with video showcase

[unborn oracle]

Hello, playing Deadeye herold of thunder, galvanic shards, shockburster as cha. Now Iam looking for an amulett. Since I need to have a lot of stats I used a high stat amulett. Iam tinking about getting a plus 3 to all proj skills as well. Due to the cost of that with a lot of attribute I was wondering if plus 3 to all proj skills is rlly a big of a deal. What do you think? Is it worth it?

[pearl sluice]

wait is it real that ignite cant exceed 25% chance? (with excaption of the double gloves)

Thats insane bad for any ignite build O.o

[late lodge]

Aah that’s the catch. Thanks!

[steady flint]

That node has the same wording tho

[proud condor]

Oh does it? Rip

Thought it benefited Defiance too, oops

Ripperoni

Thanks for letting me know

[cedar aspen]

Sorry to keep on about Zealots Oath, but quick question.

Say I choose Zealots Oath and Chaos Inoculation. The excess Life Regen will be instant because my health is always at its maximum of 1, yes or no?

[proud condor]

Yes

[cedar aspen]

Ok great! So there’s potential to use both those keystones together then and I’d hope to have sufficient excess regen towards my energy shield if I had max life of 1

[pallid wigeon]

How do you get a frenzy charge out of combat? Is there a way?

[proud condor]

Flat life regen would function the same, 20 flat life regen as a suffix would become 20 flat ES regen

What I don't know is how % life regen contributes, as CI reduces your life to 1. In PoE1, it's a % of ES, but ZO in PoE1 is a different keystone.

[candid silo]

best ascendancy for chaos witch to take?

[cedar aspen]

Right. I was going to ask would %life regen speed up the regen of ES then under the effects of ZO?

[fierce sluice]

are +lvls to proj skills on bow and quiver basically required like they are for spell casters?

Was looking for some build inspiration and saw multiple lightning arrow builds that only had +lvl to proj skills on the amulet, I’m assuming it has to do with mana costs scaling too high if you have too high of a level?

[solemn kettle]

For "Increases and Reductions to Companion Damage also apply to you", do mods that affect "Allies in your presence" also apply or does the source need the companion keyword?

Example: I use a primate talisman in a sceptre to add 30% increased damage to my tamed beast

[remote narwhal]

What's the point of volatility

Just asking on that

[blazing crypt]

https://youtu.be/F1WeBsOiuuA?si=t1NP1Z9AhNF8zvxX

[static plinth]

This ruins all % based life regen, its still based off your life

So there may be use cases but its not something you should take without a ton of thought

[magic pier]

chat
are talismans the only things that give an effect when socketed on a scepter?

[patent shell]

guys did i calulate it right ? i want to simulate the both weapon hit of leapslam so i took the flat dmg of 2x maces and made any global mod times 2

[static plinth]

why not just...equip two maces?

[patent shell]

cant pob dont calulate it

it doesnt calulate both weapons hit same time dmg

[static plinth]

It should, its written in blue

Ill check i na sec

[patent shell]

yes the less dmg is correct

but the inc dmg not

u do 30% less dmg but u HIT with double dmg

well both weapons

[static plinth]

Hm youre right

Well either way there's a WAY easier way to do that

Just set the Count to 2

and ofc actually dual wield so you get 30% less

[patent shell]

i type less 30% in config

at the end

what does count 2 do ?

[static plinth]

Its usually used for totems and things but it literally just doubles the damage

So if you dual wield and set the count to 2 itll work fine (if you look at DPS, average hit wont change)

[patent shell]

ah ok nice

[patent shell]

I tried to explain on Reddit and YouTube that what this YouTuber says just isn't true. He claims that using global modifiers from two 2H maces gives you triple damage, and also says that Sacred Flame or Chernobog can't even come close in terms of DPS. But it's obvious that Chernobog is nearly as strong as his setup. For pointing that out, I got hate and my comments were deleted. XDD

with count 2 version i have 1million dps leapslam

but with chernoblog or sacred flame i have 800k but u fucking get 120 spirit with sacred flame XDD

and a fucking fire 40% resistance aura which is op as fuck for smith of kitava

but ok im just stupid XD

[final dragon]

Ok guys help me out. Can you get 2+ auras on 1 companion?

[static plinth]

Global mods from two two-handers is, at absolute most 50% more over the first mod

And like 180% more in total

No world where it's triple lol

And thats with ZERO % inc

[cedar aspen]

So in order for my base life regen to regen a decent amount, better had stacked more maximum life also then. Instead of setting it to 1… got it.

[static plinth]

Or get flat life regen which admittedly is kind of rare

[cedar aspen]

Yeah noted. Not a lot of flat life regen on the tree either, only a few over the warriors side of the passive tree

Thanks

[pallid wigeon]

Mind over Matter still a good survivability passive or does the -50% regen hurts it too much?

[crystal drift]

should i respec this if im a squishy lvl 73 with not much ES ? my ES gets deleted by white mobs in t3 maps and then ill go down to 30% hp and cant heal and die cause convalesence is on cooldown

[mortal swift]

Guys I need advice on how to break armor on Chrono to trigger scavenged plating

[mint summit]

Can you do something with corrosion support? Are you full int?

[mortal swift]

No full str

It's a thorns build with recoup

But I want to trigger scavenged easily

[mortal swift]

What does corrosion do?

[hoary bolt]

corrosion breaks armour based on poison damage

[mortal swift]

Oh I suppose resonating shield could

I see, I think it will be too small, scavenged needs fully broken

Reso seems promising

[hoary bolt]

corrosion is actually the fastest way of breaking armour

if your poison damage is high enough

[mortal swift]

that do be the issue, my main dmg is electro thorns so idk how I will apply it

How much armor do enemies have? Does reso not break fast?

[solar walrus]

once you cap out on evasion from the tree viably, what is the next best source? thinking rings or jewels.

thats with 10 stacks of tailwind

[cinder raven]

Does crit multi on whirlwind created by whirling slash increase the damage of the ignite it picks up?

[dawn spire]

Rings, amulets, jewels, and just really high evasion base gear with max quality and iron runes

[mortal swift]

Does reso shield scale well into maps for breaking armor?

[zealous oak]

Does twofold work with barrage?

After trying it for few hours i have not gotten double charge's

[oblique marlin]

i have build in mind based on Caltrops + thorns damage, but it need almost 0 coodlown blink
it is not possible to make 0 cd blink in this league?

[hollow bronze]

Anybody using dark ef ?

[exotic shell]

boys i need more int, any ideas which piece i should try replacing first? https://poe2.ninja/profile/character/1pr4xayonixt3/oolong-4228/_yamazaki_

first thing that comes to mind is prob get a sceptre with higher int?

[dawn spire]

1. pretty sure heft support is useless on a skill with 100% phys to ele conversion like storm lance
2. I'd put int runes in your helm and boots

3. regal your heckin jewel

[idle goblet]

I'm slighly terrified to face viper in act3 hc normal with my crappy lightening sorc, she is the last one who killed me in 0.1. Going CI for the occasion would make it trivial?

[dawn spire]

@exotic shell4.

[dawn spire]

no, poison does double damage to energy shield and her spear attacks do poisoning physical hits

it would trivialize her purple phase, but you'd be screwed otherwise

wait

sorry

I'm dumb

it would negate a lot of her damage, but the spears still do phys

[idle goblet]

I have 1400es, still i'm frightned

[dawn spire]

do you have a way to restore it?

[idle goblet]

Sort of

[dawn spire]

going that much ES in the campaign feels like a wild strat. And by wild I mean insanely dangerous

life gives you ailment and stun threshold and can be restored via flasks

ES gives you a bit of hp when the game feels like it

[idle goblet]

Right now i wear the shoes with 100% faster es recharge rate

[dawn spire]

unless you have eternal youth, temporal rift, convalescence with chrono CD stuff,e tc

[dawn spire]

yeah that ain't gonna cut it. Viper gonna poke you to death unless you can dodge spears like a god

[idle goblet]

Will she stun me with those ?

[dawn spire]

wait, are you wearing these in act 3?

those are atrocious

[idle goblet]

Yes i'm wearing those since lvl 3

[dawn spire]

they're basically about as good as level 1 boots with 10% movement speed and nothing else

no life, no res, low ms for act 3

[idle goblet]

Well i liked the 2s es recharge a lot

It has 15%, but still low

[exotic shell]

good advice, very appreciated

thanks for the response

although i'm not sure about the heft thing

[dawn spire]

also, they don't give increased recharge rate

they lower your recharge rate, but speed up the start of the recharge

[idle goblet]

Start recharge

Yup

2s instead of 4

[dawn spire]

as a hardcore player, I cannot advise you to ever go ES during the campaign, but you do you

unless you're a chronomancer with temporal rift or you have eternal youth

1400 ES might be enough of a buffer for you to go CI and at least have enough time to log out if viper is stomping you

but you're gonna get stunned to hell unless you also take some stun threshold from ES nodes

[idle goblet]

How much life/es you think I should have in act3 hc ?

[dawn spire]

I'd check the gem panel on heft. I think pob2 says its a dps boost, but I'm not sure

[dawn spire]

I shoot for around 300 life for each act I've completed, give or take

maybe 250

[idle goblet]

So 900 life + 1kes ?

I'm at 731/1400

[dawn spire]

I aim for about 0 ES for each act I've completed, give or take

I think ES is the worst stat you can get in the campaign (without temporal rift, eternal youth, or some other way to restore it), but I'm just one person and that's my opinion

[exotic shell]

i mean unsocketing heft gives storm lance less dps if that says anything

[dawn spire]

hm, interesting. I guess I mixed up where the damage range was rolled. my b

[idle goblet]

I'm still not there in 0.2. But in 0.1 i kept the stun thr as low as possibile and relied on the energy barrier support gem. Not sure i'll work in 0.2 with the stun "buff"

[idle goblet]

Yeah, I see its problem with slow recharge , but i'm a damn chicken and that ehp buffer helps me 😅

[oblique marlin]

folks anyone know how to self-ignite without Infernalist Ascendancy? on other classes ?

[idle goblet]

Viper is even lightening resistent right ?

[idle goblet]

Isnt a lil risky to face the monke with 700hp ?

[dawn spire]

not risky at all if you don't get hit (:

[idle goblet]

I'd shit my pants 😭

[dawn spire]

pants are replaceable, beating Silverfist with 700 hp is forever

[calm moth]

Just hug him and 360, he's so slow..

[hearty whale]

is it guranteed to modify or is there a chance to?

[dawn spire]

it will always corrupt it, the outcomes vary depending on the item you corrupt

[hearty whale]

Yea ik it corrupts it, but does it modify a stat guaranteed?

[dawn spire]

most, if not all, items have the possibility of not being modified at all (beyond corruption)

[hearty whale]

bruh

ty

[dawn spire]

could add +1 socket, add a new corrupted affix, modify unique stats, etc

or do nothing

[hearty whale]

nothing changed here at all

[idle goblet]

I failed vs viper, but survived 🐔 😅

[exotic shell]

how did you fail but survive

is that a thing

[idle goblet]

I chickened out

[dawn spire]

they logged out

[mortal swift]

does everlasting sacrifice only give max res or does this interaction also give 5 to your current res?

[idle goblet]

I respawned at checkpoint really, but its the same i guess

[dawn spire]

seems to only give max res, not actual res

[mortal swift]

does it stack with itself?

can I get 2 everlasting sac

[dawn spire]

I don't believe so. Buffs of the same name do not stack unless it says they do

[bold lichen]

can anyone help me find something like "i have triggered a skill recently" in POB2 ???

i have issue to enable skill passive "dynamism " in dps

[dawn spire]

if the text is red (like it is for dynamism), it's currently not supported. You can add a custom mod with 40% increased damage somewhere as a workaround

[bold lichen]

Thanks

[night wedge]

Can gas cloud skills (i.e. gas grenade/arrow) crit? I know they don't hit, but I'm not sure if the "as if hitting" implies it can crit

[dawn spire]

only hits can crit

though there is a bug right now with a unique that ignites nearby enemies as though dealing X that is scaling with crit if the enemy has critical weakness

[devout mantle]

Can someone help to get me greater jeweller’s orb

It’s my first POE and need help 🙏

I am playing with Amazon hunter

[mortal swift]

anyone know if that last line only works for spear attack or for all skills regardless of spear

[vocal sinew]

Hello, how does the Chaotic Freeze work? I tried it with contagion and essence drain and its not building freeze at all. Can somebody help pls?

[mortal swift]

it only builds off of hits after the dot u have it on is applied

so like the projectile hit from ED will build it

[vocal sinew]

Ah okay, thank you 🙂 i wanted to make enemies frozen and play cast on freeze but this wont work seems like.

[mortal swift]

not with ED contagion, need another hard hitting spell, like impending doom or hexblast

[vocal sinew]

Ah okay, so basically if i cast Contagion with Chaotic Freeze and then i cast some curse with Impending Doom then it might freeze the infected enemies.

[bold pulsar]

Anyone with experience on Merc theorycrafting? Im trying to build an off-meta crossbow merc with bleed. For that i could use some tips on how to best make it work

[dawn spire]

Trading isn't allowed on this server, but if you're in act 1 cruel, I think you have access to the currency exchange

[coarse cypress]

Does avatar of fire make other skills have the fire tag?

[dawn spire]

What skill are you planning on using?

[dawn spire]

No

[coarse cypress]

Ty

[dawn spire]

I guess another way I could ask is, "What are the parts of your build that are set in stone?"

Does it 100% have to be a merc with crossbows that utilizes bleed? Or are those serving some other purpose?

Like, when I make a build I start with an idea or concept I want to explore or use to its fullest. Could be a keystone, a skill, an ascendancy class, an ailment, a unique item, anything (or even multiple anythings). Then I build from that base. What's your base?

[bold pulsar]

I need to afk a bit. Gotta pick my gf up and grocery shop. Ill reply when I get home again. Thanks!

[hard estuary]

Can I make molten blast good with a merc? I figured I want to stack projectile damage with dual wield one handers wasn't sure what ascendancy I should go for

[idle goblet]

With BL shoukd i prioritize shock chance or raw dmg since it has +750% ?