2┃build-planning

[static torrent]

We do have it.

Combat Frenzy is still a thing, Resonance to convert that to Power Charges is also still a thing

However, at least two of the uniques core to the build got severely nerfed with 0.2

[flat star]

Ohh combat frenzy is a reservation buff, of course lol

no wonder I couldn't find it

[gusty timber]

seems good for an ignite build actually

the numbers are good

throw on any cold to fire convert

[flat star]

I'll def be going for it for this locus build now that I know it exists

charged staff is great, and ... surprisingly does add to DPS of locus, though again, it doesn't use weapon damage so that kinda confuses me (but the game shows a DPS increase)

[gusty timber]

offtopic, i hope someone smarter than me can make haemocrystals work

[hybrid ocean]

Anyone found cool combos with this thing?

[gusty timber]

they are an absurd multi for bleed builds if you can instantly consume the bleeds, the problem is automating either them or the bleeds

[hybrid ocean]

Wondering what sort of rares would be good

Actually, can tamed beasts inherit essences?

[gusty timber]

i think they can only take normal rare mods

[radiant wraith]

Why salvo support doesnt work with grenades ?

[brazen granite]

is there anything that makes leech instant? i forgot if that's possible in poe2

[radiant wraith]

How is a grenade not an Attack Projectile skill that you use yourself wtf ?

[gusty timber]

atziri's aquity gloves

[brazen granite]

thank you

[hybrid ocean]

Only life leech though, which is tragic

Unless I misremember

[brazen granite]

damn i was hoping for mana

[gusty timber]

only instant mana leech was chayula monk before they took it

[pearl sluice]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Time-Lost_Ruby on the db it has critical damage bonus for ruby, but I can not find it anywhere on the trade site

[brazen granite]

right, i could have sworn chayula monk had instant mana leech

[hybrid ocean]

Hmm

[gusty timber]

wait so is it true that lich is immune to one shots if they have any ES whatsoever

[hybrid ocean]

What happens exactly when two different effects try to apply the same type of elemental ground to the same area?

[gusty timber]

mark seemed to imply it was true in the ziz q&a... if so, why wouldn't every lich take Zealot's Oath?

[hybrid ocean]

Like visually it displays only one afaict, but is this accurate?

[nimble hound]

god wb totem builds look so fun. I hate that you don't get the good totem until level 58 tho 😦

[gusty timber]

they both apply

[nimble hound]

not sure i wanna go through that

[gusty timber]

but i think the engine will only show one

you can tell if you play a twister build

[nimble hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wntDYyknNd8

[gusty timber]

they get empowered by any effects you're on

[hybrid ocean]

Aha

Yeah, I'm considering going on a hunt for rares with trails then

[glossy zodiac]

if you ignite something while having some % damage as extra chaos damage does that count as a chaos damage over time debuff?

[hybrid ocean]

I assume a tamed companion gem will retain all its information when put into a stash or otherwise taken from the gem menu?

[gusty timber]

right

[gusty timber]

it won't

you would need to use blackflame

[hybrid ocean]

Wait, does that actually?

[gusty timber]

yeah

[hybrid ocean]

huh

Ignite Contagion build?

[glossy zodiac]

I was thinking ignite dark effigy

[gusty timber]

actually i don't know if an ailment counts as a debuff

[glossy zodiac]

but not sure if that would trigger

gonna test it

Yeah doesn't work

[hybrid ocean]

Ah, right. Well a lot of things specify non-ailment, so it saves us that headache

[neat bison]

I don’t think they do, since something like corrupted blood is specifically a debuff.

and not an ailment

[glossy zodiac]

Are totems affected by presence modifiers like from sceptres?

[gusty timber]

i doubt it since that would mean they could double dip

i think poe1 specifically avoided that too

there are weird things that do apply iirc

[hybrid ocean]

I wonder if

Seems like it would, right?

[half wedge]

does temper weapon damage count as a separate hit for ignite purposes?

[carmine flicker]

ed/c or rakestom for witch lvling?

[glossy zodiac]

edc has been working well

[deft osprey]

Fireball stonks went way up

Mana tempest might be a must have in any sorc build

[tawdry pilot]

the part where you're in the air. it scales with skill effect duration

[nimble hound]

what does it do

now

[tawdry pilot]

so theoretically, there's a poor mans temporalis autobomber setup in there somewhere...

[deft osprey]

A. Works with any spell

B. Applies split

C. Buffs and gives you gain% lightning on spells used within

[nimble hound]

is there any chrono build that will make use o fit

[deft osprey]

I mean of course

Step one pick a projectile to scale

Step two slap on mana tempest

Step 3 do the combo

[vagrant oyster]

so why excactly is ritualist not just the best ascendacy in the game? shouldnt ingenuity+3 good rings+25% bonuses to rings make it super good?

[kind crest]

Because ingenuity doesn’t work with 3 rings

[vagrant oyster]

oh wait actually... thats lame af

[violet grove]

The forums don't have huntress. 😦

[vagrant oyster]

wouldnt it still be pretty good tho? ingenuity plus the 25% dmg ring buff

[twin sierra]

idk if any of the fireball stuff or w/e will be better than fusillade

prob not

[violet grove]

What would be a cool way to detonate the Rapid Assault spears?

[midnight obsidian]

those forum posts would probably be under "ranger"

[vagrant oyster]

fireball dmg is pretty mid without archmage and idk how bad the archmage nerfs are but

[twin sierra]

i think fusillade is basically the only playable spell aside from cold spells

casters have it rough atm

[twin sierra]

those nodes are good the issue is the rest of the ascendancy

is completely useless

[grave granite]

is there a way to get POB to show me the dps increase from something like falcon dive?

[hard pumice]

what monk build should i run rn idk what i feel like running and my old bld feels bad whats the new one\

[pearl sluice]

why does my indigon ramp max out on ignite? It says gain damage and cost based on mana spent recently, shouldn't that cause it to ramp endlessly as long as I don't run out of mana?

[gritty goblet]

Is there no way to report a bug for POE2? Trying to make a spear build and see that currently you are unable to add support gems to explosive spears unless you craft the gem for a different skill first

[pearl sluice]

what is going on with lacerate?when I put it in, it does not say bleed, when I take it out, it says I have a bleed chance?

[patent shell]

can someone explain me why 10x more ?

he is only increasing the radius

[green spruce]

@pearl sluice I think that means you hit the 100% bleed chance cap. Meanign all hits you do will bleed now.

Does anyone know if the new Twofold support gem works on Flicker Strike?

[pearl sluice]

ah ok ty

[dusky wadi]

for chaos innoculation what is better, asceticism or self mortification fot stun threshold?

[violet grove]

Selfmort

[dusky wadi]

may i ask why?

[violet grove]

You may not

[dusky wadi]

alright can you just tell me then.

[violet grove]

I can: 30% of your ES will always be less than the total stun threshold you will get if you commit to even just one other notable (such as selfmort). Asceticism "limits you down" to 30% of your ES, always.

[dusky wadi]

thank you

also with chaos innoculation do you just have no stun threashold at all?

[violet grove]

You do, but it is based on your life still, so that is why notables such as Self Mortification are great, because it starts to take into account your ES.

[dusky wadi]

alright, im just noticing that even when my life was like 1300+ before chaotic innoculation im getting stunned non stop now, like consistently stunlocked

[violet grove]

Yeah, probably because you now have stun threshold based upon having 1 Life.

[green spruce]

oo thats a change coming soon I think

[dusky wadi]

i know but i saw people were saying its like based on your life before the innoculation

i guess that was wrong

[carmine flicker]

that how it was in POE1

[violet grove]

Is that not how it is?

[carmine flicker]

idk, need to check

but it worked that way in 1

[nimble hound]

Best Warrior build to level up to 58 in which case i will go totem build

?

[neat bison]

I doubt it is, because the stun threshold from ES is mandatory with CI

[carmine flicker]

rakestomp

[twin sierra]

it is based on life pre-ci unless they changed it this patch

which i dont remember seeing

[remote ledge]

How does this work exactly?

Does it activate on its own?

Or can we activate it?

[hard pumice]

is invoker still like the monk build?

[green spruce]

id say so

[hard pumice]

igh

[green spruce]

they did make chayula more viable with the leeching effects sicne it works with elemental damage now but... Leech resistance is still a thing so...

furthermore THERE IS NO ELEMENTAL LEECH in the game

[remote ledge]

Amazon has it

[green spruce]

oh goodie the amazon has it.... cept that doesn't help Chayla so i repeat lol there is no ele leech in the game

there are no affixes or passives for it so, RIP

everything is based off what you can get leech based off of physical damage

[jagged wave]

shocked ground is so buggy man...

[craggy ice]

is the damage gained from twister passing elemental ground counted as extra damage?

[jagged wave]

I hate when you are theorycrafting a build and something stupid like this gets in the way.

I think the shocked ground bugs out and goes to the hole where this boss is. It stays there for a 1-2 seconds (should be 4) and then it disappears. Also I have almost 100% crit hit chance on that skill so it always does shocked ground on other bosses, but against him it didn't proc, even though I did the crit (can see from the damage).

[fast socket]

Hey does anyone know if companion aoe nodes increase the aoe of the monster mods?

[arctic pond]

This just dropped. I see its pretty valuable. Is it a build defining item that I should build around or should I just sell it?

[remote ledge]

Works very well with the Execute support gem, if you can use it its strong

Also I guess many nodes nvm

Damage with Hits is Lucky against Enemies that are on Low Life
420% increased Damage with Hits against Enemies that are on Low Life
5% increased Damage taken while on Low Life
30% increased Stun Buildup against Enemies that are on Low Life

An example of a warr build

[remote ledge]

If you play on the south part of the tree it would be worth looking into reshaping your tree

[arctic pond]

Yeah I mean my ritualist build at the moment is only 5 points away from the warrior finality node for 120% increase

[remote ledge]

Thats a quite efficient node

Does shock apply a hit? Or is it just a debuff?

[arctic pond]

Only issue is that my current build is all about the huntress swooshy tornados. So its sort of ranged

But given there's a lot of bleed nodes along the way to finality - I could pivot more towards bleed?

[remote ledge]

I wonder if there is a way to get hit by lightning damage controlled by ourselves

I couldnt find any

There is fire damage

[jagged wave]

that's a cool helmet

a bit of a stretch to get that 420% more damage but I believe it is worth it if you're melee

[hard pumice]

can anyone send me a good monk build that i can put into path of building i cant find like any at all

i need one for the new update i havent played it yet

[dusky wadi]

for warrior do i go armor/evasion or armor/energy shield?

[latent dawn]

I hate when the game misleads me

why is it recommended 😦

Hourglass -> Artillery Ballista - it was a perfect plan to make a separate +1 limit (50% duration) artillery gem with great wood so that I make 1 big bertha and slap the 10 sec cooldown on it for easier tracking of its uptime.

Alas ... the whole plan falls apart because somehow I cant use a recommended support

[tidal copper]

Play pathfinder poison flicker strike
I assure you it's the build of the league and it uses staff

[carmine flicker]

you don't have it elsewhere?

[latent dawn]

nah it would say so, and yes I have enough stats space

and if I use the skill it doesnt have a cooldown - I assume the totem itself has some cooldown for its attack and thats why its conflicting even though its recommended?

[carmine flicker]

let me try it myself..

[paper marsh]

hey , can somone help me and give me agood invoker monk build plesae

[jagged wave]

Is ther eany reliable way for primal strikes to shock itself for the full combo?

[carmine flicker]

I guess it's "you use yourself" part

totem isn't damage skill, it's arrows are

[latent dawn]

yea just annoying that its specifically in the recommended list lol

[carmine flicker]

yeah, it's.. stupid

but well, nothing we can do

another annoying thing - I'm leveling rake/stomp on WITCH
and not cause I really want to
but cause it's it or ed/c really, no alternative in act1

[dusky wadi]

is armor really that bad that its just better to go evasion/energy shield on warrior?

or should i go armor/energy shield?

[carmine flicker]

armour can be semi-ok..

[latent dawn]

Even the Smith cant have much armor with its own Armor ascendancy

[carmine flicker]

if you convert some damage to ele(like cloak of flame or kitava's ascendancy) and then get flat PDR from helmet and corrupted body armour..

[dusky wadi]

so what should i do?

[carmine flicker]

and then you.. really don't need armour after that

like if you have 15k armour, 25% phys converted to fire and 22% flat PDR you are good

(ofc you need to run scavenged plating to have any good armour)

[latent dawn]

you're still fairly fragile even with 90% fire res and 25% convert +18% phys redux helm (corrupted)... with like under 3k hp.

Gotta fill it up with Regen to help a bit.

[carmine flicker]

add 5% from corrupted 2hite body

[dusky wadi]

should i just do evasion energy shield then? cause armor just sounds complicated for no reason

[cyan plinth]

Is there a way to remove a spectre from the gem or do i need to make a new gem to capture a new mob?

[carmine flicker]

what's your warrior ascendancy?

[dusky wadi]

um. null. im level 3

[latent dawn]

new one every spectre

[carmine flicker]

then you don't go armour or es or w/e

you thing about it way later

[carmine flicker]

they added spectre removal afaik this patch

few hours ago

[dusky wadi]

ive played this game before. im just wondering what i should focus on.

[carmine flicker]

well
what do you want to build then?

cause IMO best way to deal with phys on warrior is either corrupted cloak of flame or kitava's convert+PDR helmet
and then some armour on top for.. lolz mostly

[dusky wadi]

what is pdr?

[atomic halo]

physical damage reduction

[proud cove]

What ascendancy makes the best use of Lightning Spear rn anw? Amazon?

[atomic halo]

armour grants physical damage reduction, you can also roll it on str body armour and shields

[latent dawn]

oh didnt know they made that possible

[atomic halo]

and a unique helmet tha gives 15%

[dusky wadi]

i was just wondering about the abreviation

[carmine flicker]

not worth it on amour I'd say
definetely + for shields tho, forgot about them

[proud cove]

Anyone know at all?

[atomic halo]

isnt it a suffix, what else do you even get on suffixes

[latent dawn]

this helm

[atomic halo]

yeah amazon

[latent dawn]

I got lucky on the magnitude corruption...

[carmine flicker]

"best" is undefined
"best" is relative
"best" depends on your goals etc
(also I have no damn idea)

[atomic halo]

all true but its amazon lol

[carmine flicker]

on body armour? cloak of flame...

[atomic halo]

well yeah, im talking about rares

[proud cove]

I want to clear entire screens with the single press of a button

[atomic halo]

of course nobody does that while smith exists

funny, i remember everyone was shitting on the body armour node when it was revealed

[carmine flicker]

yeah, rare armour base body armour
that's a sad joke

[proud cove]

Alright good to know, is Lightning Spear good for leveling/campaign stuff or should I use another build and switch when I get to endgame?

[carmine flicker]

not me for damn sure
I see 5% regen, 20% str 15% life and was like "well, str stack is now ON"

[carmine flicker]

rakestomp ftw, lol

[atomic halo]

last i checked you don't really level with it

rake +stomping ground early yeah

[proud cove]

So Rakestomp until a certain point and then swap?

Got it

[carmine flicker]

just don't get melee damage nodes

stomp isn't melee

it's attack
but not melee or weapon attack

[proud cove]

Just attack™️?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[proud cove]

Do I wanna swap to Lightning Spear once I get to Cruel?

Or should I do it at a different point

[carmine flicker]

damn isn't ES builds now better, WAAAAY better protected from shock and freeze than life ones?

50% life to ele threshold vs 40-70% ES(that is 3 times higher)

[carmine flicker]

you swap as soon as rakestomp falls off

..and you get a good spear

[proud cove]

Makes sense

[carmine flicker]

cause for rakestomp you can do all campaign with smth you grab from vendor at lvl 2

[proud cove]

I checked Maxroll and there's no Huntress builds on there yet, rip

[atomic halo]

with the investment required factored in prob not

life can get inc. ele threshold as well

[carmine flicker]

so lvl to the point where you can use your "first endgame weapon" so you don't bother with switching weapon every damn 4-5 levels

[proud cove]

Got it

[carmine flicker]

yeah, but not to the point of having 7-10k threshold

[dusky wadi]

is there a way to see stun threshold?

[carmine flicker]

cause having 700k in act 1 boss fight and STILL being frozen every damn cold hit wasn't fun at all

[wet granite]

What are some good builds atm? I was playing a monk attribute scaling before the league started

[carmine flicker]

idk about stun

but ailment one is there

[carmine flicker]

if you are into attribute scaling you can go kitava str stack

if you aren't - then lightning spear

[wet granite]

not much into attribute scaling, i like some gameplay like poe1 flicker strike

[carmine flicker]

idk, then you might still like r/s str stack kitava tho
it's more light conc path from poe1 tho

[normal pumice]

Is there a site that has different minion abilities mapped?

[carmine flicker]

fast movement(almost teleport) to target mob and medium sized aoe

[carmine flicker]

poe2db should have most

[wet granite]

What build?

[carmine flicker]

rake/stomp str stack kitava

[proud cove]

Alright stupid question but are there any written leveling guides for this out there?

[carmine flicker]

pretty one button, but true melee, so "do or die", cause you are always in danger

[proud cove]

Like something that shows you what skills to slot in for each level/act

I'm bad at building stuff and good at following instructions

[carmine flicker]

can't really maneuver around, you are forced to hug everything

[proud cove]

Or am I just SOL rn

[carmine flicker]

you REALLY don't need one

like really

take ANY spear
take rake(don't lvl it after at all) at lvl 6, take stomping ground
invest all(and I mean ALL) points into STR

rake-stomping-brutality-splinter as links

if you are tired of grabbing random str nodes - go for some AOE attack damage or phys damage nodes, but that's optional for many, many levels

[proud cove]

What about support gems?

[carmine flicker]

rake-stomping-brutality-splinter as links

man, I just typed this already

[proud cove]

I see I see

Sorry I didn't understand what you meant by links

I'm a noob and bad with terminology

Please forgive me

[carmine flicker]

all ok

[atomic halo]

"links" is effectivly legacy terminology from poe1

[carmine flicker]

just get as much STR as you can
to be strong you need to be strong

POE1 is no way legacy
we will have 3.26
we will
we will.....

[proud cove]

Alright I think I understand now

[vivid kayak]

Does anyone have any idea if elemental bleed bloodmage is a thing and how do I make it viable

[proud cove]

Appreciate the help

[carmine flicker]

as you can see works even for witch
cause reasons

[proud cove]

Goddamn

[carmine flicker]

just remember
strongest build isn't one that is strong
it's one that is strongest!

(and other rake/stomp wisdoms)

[chrome mirage]

Guys, current mana remnant is so good..but how can i inflict elemental ailment as a bone blood mage??

Pls help

[neat bison]

You could put an infusion support gem on, if you don’t want to use an actual elemental skill

Then it’s just a question on whether or not that’s going to be enough dmg to consistently inflict the ailment

[azure coral]

Is Eye of Winter Lich dead since they removed the crit weakness?

[chrome mirage]

Hmm, I think infusion are for attack skill not spell

[carmine flicker]

you can use any minion with infernal legion, that ignite everything around

it won't be alive 24/7, but will be around with good uptime if you add last gasp

[neat bison]

Yeah that’s my bad

infernal legion is a good call

[chrome mirage]

Oh i see.. this seems doable
I think its just that bad for bone spell to inflict ele ailment, if i know this i would go for infernalist instead of bloodmage

[carmine flicker]

you can also use radian grief

[sage tulip]

OK I am wondering does spell damage boost chaos damage even when it is not a chaos spell ?

[chrome mirage]

I cant sacrifice my helmet .. that , my ress will be worst

But that good too

Thanks for the input guys

[carmine flicker]

are there ANY good spectres before vaal guys?

[pearl sluice]

what is the highest energy shield node on the tree?

[carmine flicker]

patient barrier
60% one

[pearl sluice]

ty ty

[sage tulip]

anyone on that can help me with a question that I have.

[carmine flicker]

auras now affect you!
wtf!
some fun allowed..

[sage tulip]

ohh lets go

[carmine flicker]

what question?

[sage tulip]

in the case of painter's gloves would element damage or spell damage be better since painter's gloves converts 33% of element damage to all other element damage.

[azure coral]

Does anyone have a EoW build they wouldn't mind sharing?

[normal pumice]

Really, do we get crit weakness from Malice? O_O 😉

[carmine flicker]

no, thankfuly

but at least resists from purity

[north heart]

so does accruacy affect crit chance or is that a perk in the tree?

[arctic pond]

yeah I've got 100k total damage one 1 rake haha

[latent dawn]

accuracy is so weird in poe2 so I just try to avoid it lmao (resolute technique!) but for crit buidls... it doesnt affect crit stats without some notable or item that gives such a bonus afaik

[still rock]

you get so much accuracy for free

unless youre pure str

[north heart]

yeah I thought there was something where accruacy gave crit but I can't find it

[wide latch]

amazon

[autumn pond]

so whats the maxinum amount of summons you can have active at once?

and whats the weardest/funnest ones to pick?

[still rock]

from now on i only judge builds by their weardness/funnestness

thank you plague dr

[autumn pond]

the irony is i was genuenly asking, but thanks for informing me that i can shed some light on this world of ours.

[still rock]

consider that light shed

[carmine flicker]

As much as spirit allow you

[carmine flicker]

Minions aren't in good state, so use must what's effective, sadly

Well
If you want to kill anything with them

[autumn pond]

so say about 7 bloodtheif queens?

combind with both inurnal leagen and minin instability

infinate expoding wasps?

[carmine flicker]

You.. really want people eyes to bleed, do you?

[autumn pond]

its not like i record my gameplay and im soloselffound.

[sage tulip]

Holy shit we can put runes in wands and stalves now

[autumn pond]

so i can give my pyro skellies more fire?

[tall ember]

are there any expert amazon players here

[sage tulip]

I guess

[novel cove]

Do you guys know if the "Combo Finisher" support gem is busted or not? The tool tip doesn't change when I toss it onto a skill.

[still rock]

conditional supports generally do not adjust tooltip numbers

some do when the condition is met but i dont really stare at my skill window whil ei play so idk

[novel cove]

Ahhh okay got it, thanks a bunch!

[still rock]

@carmine flicker i think you mentioned using scroll wheel for osmething in the past - how do you accomplish binding it?

wanna try it out

[rich tendon]

Does anyone know any good Fire based builds that dont use minions?

[turbid fossil]

Havent started league yet... WHAT build should I play? whats strong? fun?

[still rock]

fire spells are pretty dogwater rn

but i think most mace stuff leans into fire in some way afaik

[still rock]

spear good

[turbid fossil]

interesting any other ones?

[still rock]

lich chaos dot

deadeye crossbow

smith boneshatter

invoker qstaff probably still good

warbringer totems

[dreamy bridge]

does the mana regen replacement notable on lich ignore increased mana regen rate?

[woven zinc]

how come when i search for a spear with %increased phys/# accuracy/%critical hit it comes back with no results..?

[still rock]

probably the wrong affixes, weapons need the local version of some affixes

it doesnt specifyt for poe2 trade because who knows

so if you see two inc phys % etc then try the other one

[foggy solar]

If I reserve life with the infernalist, does that life still count towards my max life? or will this charm do 25% less?

[still rock]

no

max life ignores reservations

better way of wording it, sry lol

if it said "Unreserved Maximum Life" then it would account for the reservation

[foggy solar]

thanks, the tooltip makes it a bit confusing too

[pallid wigeon]

Anyone get rapid assault to work or is it still trash?

[still rock]

yeah the last line there

man hunting beasts for tame beast is a slog ugh

[dawn spire]

No, that value (6% of your life per second I think) becomes your new base mana regen. All modifiers to mana regen work off of that new base rate

[still rock]

i have a serviceable quadrilla but i really want a drudge osseodon but it has to have lightning trail 😠

[zealous bison]

Anyone know of a new area to farm for tamed beasts with haste aura?

[still rock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFv7cG-foqc

this is for quadrilla

[woven zinc]

Any opinions on a good annoint choice for LS? Kind of torn between Overwhelming Strike and Vulgar Methods at the moment..

[still rock]

i dont know of any good reset points for other beasts

[zealous bison]

Think they patched quadrilla spawning with haste aura

[still rock]

but quadrilla might not even be able to get haste aura anymore, idk

yeah

sadge

[zealous bison]

yeah don't think he can

[dawn spire]

Does that mean some tamed beasts are now legacy?

[still rock]

i tink

[still rock]

crit exploit, serrated edges some other opptions

cheap options

overwhelming strike prob better

i havent even seen a arare drudge oss yet

maybe they cant spawn as rare? is that a thing?

nvm i see one

[neat bison]

Locked on seems ok

15% crit and accuracy

[north heart]

anyone doing lightning spear?

[still rock]

yeah bro abt half the game is

lol

ive reset about 40 times, seen two rare drudge oss, this is pain

[austere locust]

if u use manifest weapon with a unique does the minion gain those modifiers? or is it just base stats like atk speed and dmg?

[atomic halo]

should be everything on the item

[austere locust]

so the manifest weapons damage would increase? or would its dmg increase if i hit things?

[atomic halo]

tbh im not entirely sure, it's quite new

but i would expect it would

no promises unfortunately

[austere locust]

alright, ill have to do some testing myself but thanks anwyay

[still rock]

bro posting questions as pictures

my assumption is that its your crit chance pre-amazon node, but youd have to test it

since its gain % it probably doesnt even take into account inc % crit

but idk

just spitballing

this is how i think it would work based on my reading of it:
-take ur crit chance from weapon info
-increases accuracy by that as a %

[atomic halo]

its weird and seems like an oversight tbh

i would side on it not caring about the crit from amazon at all and just looking at your crit without it

[still rock]

if it functions like other gain conversion then it would legit just take your crit from weapon

but who knows

easily testable

[west matrix]

Anyone have advice for mana issues with the Amazon, specifically on bosses? I'm trying to get a ton of mana regen, but I have issues with some higher tier bosses.

[still rock]

leech?

[west matrix]

Ill see if I can find something for that. Are there any good skill tree nodes for that?

[still rock]

no, you cant get added leech from passives, only on gear

[west matrix]

ah alright, fair enough

[still rock]

rings, weapon, gloves

Leech #% of Physical Attack Damage as Mana

[pearl sluice]

if I wanted to do a crit caster, would sorc or witch be better?

[still rock]

depends on the spell

[pearl sluice]

ice probably

[still rock]

but blood mage is easy crit scaling

[pearl sluice]

yeah makes sense

[magic pier]

chat am i crazy or is this unique bonkers

[still rock]

tis

u r not crazy

rest easy

[neat bison]

Holy

How is this my first time seeing that

[still rock]

its like around 10+ div i think

probably higher

[neat bison]

Pretty cool

[still rock]

even more relevant in this patch since presence is 4m instead of 6m

[faint eagle]

Does anyone know the new notable recipe for Radial Force? The combination seems different now and I can't see the recipe haha

[still rock]

theyre gunna have to add some QoL for tame beast if you want to be optimal, this is nuts trying to hunt a specific rare beast you want with the right mods

close to giving up

like, if you capture a certain mod you can transfer it to another body or something

would help

[still rock]

you cant anoint starter notables anymore

sadge

[white heron]

Is ritualist worth running just for the extra ring bonuses? Trying to decide on my first ascendancy now

[faint eagle]

ooh

[still rock]

i think they did it because the starting nodes change with every class that shares a starting location

in my ideal world you'd be able to toggle between each starting location so if youre travelling through a particular starting location for a class that you arent using you could just choose which one you want

but doubtful that happens

[still rock]

not sure if its "better" than amazon, but i can say on paper it's strong

espec with really good rings like 3 rings with 3 flat added damage prefixes and ingenuity

[pallid wigeon]

How does trinity work? Can I just put cold damage and fire damage on my rings and with lightning spear get it to proc all 3 resonance? Or does it have to come from 3 different sources?

[still rock]

you only gain resonance with the highest type

so if you have 50 light 20 fire and 20 cold fore example

you only get light resonance

[wet raptor]

Is combat frenzy at all relevant during campaign for lightning spear? Pinning, electrocuting and freezing doesn't seem easy to make possible to me. So is generating charges more of an endgame thing for this type of build?

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Kitokos_Current

[normal pumice]

Love the idea, maybe some kind of repurposed poe1 metamorph mechanic

[still rock]

it needs some l;ove, i like the tame beast idea a lot but its a pin in the ass to get what you want

e.g. im hunting a dreddge oss with lightning trail, ive reset the zone via checkpoint about 100 times i think atp, seen 4 rare dredges

[viscid radish]

Issue you, you also specifically need a small dog or something to hit 30ish percent res

Big monsters cost upto 45%

[still rock]

idm paying more spirit for a companion that lives longer

which iswhy i wanted to try one of these guys

but im probably gunna give up

[viscid radish]

Sadly I'm already running 4 auras, so I cant

Get a big one that is

[still rock]

im tactician so its not bad

half buff cost

[viscid radish]

Plus the small ones get one shot

So much for taming them

[still rock]

yeah, you really have to go in with the intent of taming them

which means you do no progress while you look for it mainly

[north heart]

did anyone try doing ls for leveling?

[viscid radish]

Yes

[normal pumice]

Does the infernalist node giving 1 max ES per 8 hp count towards mana when using eldritch battery?

[north heart]

how was it? I feel like add clear is god tier but I"m struggling in single target dps right now

[viscid radish]

Single tier you want storm lance

Before you get that, just use basic spear attacks

For bosses

LS on bosses always felt bad

[north heart]

I have storm lance but dont you need snipers mark and very high crit to get that going?

[viscid radish]

Not really

Initially you can parry plus lance for good damage

Else just use it without parry, but no charges so mid damage

But more than enough damage

[still rock]

i think? since its not increased % it should account pre-conversion, but youd have to test to confirm since i havent played infernalist personally

alright, 1.5 hrs of looking for a dredge oss in bone pits, u got me ggg i give up, back to the silly gorilla

[north heart]

do y'all use fork? It just visually looks fun with it forking everywhere

[normal pumice]

That's what I thought as well. Seems this interaction isn't implemented yet in the current pob version.

[still rock]

volt better

you could use both tho

[north heart]

it's this gem that would have to be taken out. ehh movmement penalty?..

I actually really wanna try out the rowha

[still rock]

volt - lightning infusion - bullseye - perpetual charge

would be my choice for early on

lots of options to play w tho

[plucky fern]

Is it time for me to get into 0.2 or is it still pretty garbage? What are the builds which actually work for end game blasting maps besides the lightning javalin? Thanks!

[north heart]

I realy wanna do barage plus the frenzy charge combo is that possible?

[still rock]

it never was garbage

[still rock]

lich chaos dot
deadeye crossbow
smith boneshatter
invoker qstaff probably still good
warbringer totems

just throwing some commonly played builds rn

[plucky fern]

Thats a good jumping off point for me to look into them, thanks!! From the list just curious which would you recommend?

[still rock]

idk im playing tactician twister lol

play whatever sounds fun

all those are viable

i am cursed to play hipster builds

self-afflicted

[plucky fern]

brutal

[still rock]

twister is pretty nuts so i did good this time

[plucky fern]

i like to go full meta with extreme focus basically never doing alts and just pushing it as far as possible in all games

started with minion witch then did spark last league

[north heart]

barrage twister is so fun

[still rock]

twister is basically attack spark, feels p good on corridor maps

not so much on open maps but w/e

[latent sinew]

What is the degen like on Infernalist demon form now at 10 stacks?

[north heart]

yeah corridor maps you've hit the jackpot lmao. Only time I'll love those maps

[grave granite]

how come POB doesn't take attack speed into account for grenade dps?

[green spruce]

Trying to make a Flicker Strike build feel nice again. Any thoughts? Here is the Maxroll and PoB. https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/tz2ck0ik

[static spade]

I'm so disappointed that Shockwave totem doesn't cause aftershocks on Volcanic Fissure.... would have been a cool build.

[slim sequoia]

Hello, Working on my Warrior build rn, any advice will be greatly appreciated.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/lb2cs0ij

[kind crest]

What are you using for clear? If boneshatter than you ideally want brink on your slam so it doesn’t heavy stun

[slim sequoia]

Boneshatter or basic Mace strike

[kind crest]

Alright then put brink on your leap slam and you should be easily priming enemies for your boneshatter

I’d also say hold off on temper weapon and get the defensive nodes on smith first

[neat bison]

Yeah the earlier you can focus on stacking fire res, the better

[grave granite]

when i shoot multiple gas grenades, does the detonation do an explosion per cloud? or is it one explosion?

[vital walrus]

hi would a mace + crossbow build work from Huntress assuming you pick up generic Attack damage nodes and with the passive set pts?

[carmine flicker]

idk, I macro-ed scroll wheel to emulate other mouse buttons in my mouse
afaik not smth against TOS since it's still one action to one player input
(as long as it's 1 button only in macro)

[open brook]

Is it possible to make stomping ground a build? I know people are having a good time leveling it with rake but can you scale it to endgame? There are a bunch of things I dont know about it though. It has its own crit chance but does it interact with your weapon modifiers at all? Leech modifiers on rings are global but Its possible leech mods on weapons are local? It is a triggered attack, as far as I know support gems that work on attacks should work on stomping ground.

[still rock]

assuming its an attack, it should take your weapons leech

[north pivot]

Any Kitava Smith off-meta builds? Especially using the Fire Spell on Hit / new Anvil ? 🙂

[unreal sierra]

depends what you mean by off-meta

i think some thorn stuff is possible

[north pivot]

Any builds that a high % of players are not playing.

that's what I meant.

[short mango]

curious, does empower count as any skill that used charges? or only when something like barrage "empowers" it

[unreal sierra]

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Smith+of+Kitava

probably most popular is mace, totems or rake so ig rest is offmeta

[still rock]

not to be rude but if you have to ask someone else for a build and expect it to be "offmeta" you probably should just follow a meta build

[north pivot]

i've played all the builds to date that I found interesting. I'm looking to see if anyone has come up with something interesting with the Anvil / Fire Spell on Hit

[still rock]

afaik theyre not good - fire spell is only useful as support and anvil is clunky but they just buffed it, dont know what that means for it yet

[north pivot]

Have you tried that Manifest Weapon?

[unreal sierra]

manifest seems dead on arrival

maybe it will get better with some buff because right now its pretty disappointing

[north pivot]

I'm guessing it was supposed to be an Animate Weapon from POE1

[unreal sierra]

better than anvil that didnt work at start

[north pivot]

guess we have to wait a while before they visit those nodes

[young dirge]

Could anyone recommend a fun monk build that isn't a 1 button sort of gameplay?

[unreal sierra]

fire spell on hit had potential before energy nerfs in 0.1 maybe

now its just support-only for now

unless someone breaks something

[north pivot]

I wonder if you can link DD on it for some additional clear

if it's worth in the first place

[unreal sierra]

int investment for smith seems like a bit too much for it to be worth

but who knows, maybe possible to cook something cool

just kinda disappointed cuz thought it may be some spell-focused archetype like CoC-style but it cant proc at all without damage

just wasted bunch of respecs to eventually give up on the idea

[still rock]

i learned that via trying to make CoC whirling assault work

[unreal sierra]

i tried FSoH whirling assault day one and got quickly verified

did someone manage to do anything cool with mjolner then

[slim sequoia]

@kind crest @neat bison
Thank you for feedback.
I agree with "Temper Weapon" but I had to get it since I like the skill animation mid fight 😂

[mighty wing]

so sad they nuked concoction builds

for no reason

pretty sure no one has found a way to make them work again?

[torn bobcat]

hi guys. what's a decent crit chance number for galvanic shards buidls?

i currently have 20

[teal sluice]

how does eternal life work exactly for lich
like when should i/shouldnt i take it
if i got 15% dmg taken bypass ES does it mean i get like 15% DR if i got es?
should i take it as my 3rd lab ascendancy point thing

[neat bison]

Answered you in the other channel

[teal sluice]

ty

[vital walrus]

anyone try to make a Huntress with both Crossbow and Mace(or any other melee)

[jade vault]

Hi guys,any pointers to make GA build even better?
I’m at a similar point fub was but I want to stick with GA

[normal pumice]

Is Blood Mage crit scaling decently effective? 1% per 40 hp seems kinda low?

[royal fern]

any Witch Lich builds that arent Chaos DoT based? or minion based?

ive been using Chaos DoT for a bit, it just feels so slow, and dont really like minion builds

i actually have decompose on my wand and ive been using that a bit and its been doing a lot more dmg then my chaos stuff too lol

[dawn spire]

When you say you've been using chaos dot, which skill(s) are you using?

Also, lich can use basically anything. Nothing on lich requires you to use minions or chaos dot to benefit

[royal fern]

Essence Drain, Contagion, Despair, Dark Effigy

I wanted to use Hex Blast, but from what i can read of it, it only triggers now when a Curse is at least half way through

so that feels pretty unusable considering 6seconds is the curse duration

[azure wyvern]

Do anyone know if damage from exploded rapid assault spears is consider as one?

For bleed build

[dawn spire]

I'd also recommend using decaying hex with despair

It will make your despair spread with contagion. Not sure if it already does that

[gloomy rain]

Herald explosions count as hits and attacks, right? Am I correct thinking that all of these would work with Herald of Blood?

[dawn spire]

That is correct

[gloomy rain]

Sweet. Gotta love it when things go squish, most satisfying herald yet.

[dawn spire]

Based on the wording, I think they're separate. If they were one, I would expect it to say something like, "Deals X% damage per spearhead detonated"

[azure wyvern]

I hope they change it

[gloomy rain]

Also, this wording has me a little confused. In the yellow text it says "based off the life of the exploded enemy", but in the blue text it says "Deals 15% of exploded enemy's blood loss". So which is it, their max life or the amount of blood loss they've taken?

Also, if the area damage skill tree nodes work, and supports like Deadly Herald and Brutality work, what does "Unscalable physical attack damage" mean, exactly??

[dawn spire]

Oh, shoot. Okay.

1. I'm guessing the description is out of date and the blood loss is actually what matters.

2. Because of it being based off of your bleed damage, your modifiers to physical attack hits don't actually affect the explosions. That would result in double dipping (they'd buff your ability to inflict bleeds AND the explosions based on blood loss). Look at the plague bearer gem for a similar type of deal.

Basically they made the explosions unable to be scaled in terms of damage because it's already based on the damage you're dealing

I didn't know it had that line, my b

[neat bison]

Yeah it’s almost certainly just the blood loss, confusing wording aside

[dawn spire]

But those mods you showed earlier still, technically, buff the explosions because they're buffing your bleeds

Well, the attack area damage one only works if you're inflicting bleeds with an attack area skill

And it should still be able to inflict bleed via lacerate

[gloomy rain]

Am I correct in assuming that corrupted blood will cause blood loss, and therefore basically be a second herald of blood enabler?

[dawn spire]

That is correct

[gloomy rain]

Sweet. Definitely not regretting my choice to reroll Ritualist then. Got my Amazon to maps yesterday, but then I realized that what I enjoy most is actually Herald of Blood, not all the spear stuff. So now I play crossbow with Herald of Blood and Bloodhound's Mark.

Amazon is probably still the strongest ascendancy in this patch, but that's fine, I prefer fun over op.

[dawn spire]

Eh, way too early to tell imo

[neat bison]

Well

[dawn spire]

And for hcssf it seems like dogwater

[neat bison]

Kind of interesting that corrupted blood applies blood loss

[gloomy rain]

Probably not great for hcssf yeah, they just have crazy potential with enough minmaxing, because of the whole dexterity = accuracy = crit. Everything is just more damage.

[dawn spire]

Yeah, that makes me wanna do a corrupting cry warbringer now, ngl

[neat bison]

Way to make the distinction between bleed and corrupted blood even more confusing GGG

[dawn spire]

Eh, not nearly as much as people seem to think. Getting to 150% chance to hit is a herculean task due to the way that accuracy rating translates to %chance to hit

[gloomy rain]

Yeah, it's...not super intuitive. Phrecia was the first time I seriously got into PoE 1, when I realized that my flask that made me immune to bleed and corrupted blood and activated when I started bleeding wouldn't activate when I got corrupted blood, I just went "Oh...I guess that technically makes sense, but that's stupid". Then I changed it to just activating when reaching full charges, but still.

[neat bison]

I may try some kind of corrupted blood build out now that you can respec ascendency

I’m not doing early game huntress again lol

[gloomy rain]

Wait what, they added ascendancy respeccing?

[neat bison]

Upcoming patch

Next week

You have to run a trial or something to do so

[gloomy rain]

Ah, gotcha. I didn't expect the patch that hit last night to come this early tbh, definitely pleasantly surprised. I don't really mind going through the campaign for the 13th and 14th time now that act 3 is not nearly as long.

Well, to be honest, I guess it's mostly because I'm in a good mood now that the servers don't seem to be fucked anymore. I was well on my way to gaslighting myself into believing that my D key was worn out enough to occasionally be unresponsive, but it seems fine now, was probably just the latency.

[neat bison]

I had to play a temp chains map during server hiccups

Was an experience

[gloomy rain]

I lost my first two corruption nexuses to instance crashes, then I switched over to US servers and did the third one for my first two atlas points with 150-250 ms. I was not a happy person.

[jagged wave]

meh, why I can't put resonance on weapon skill swap...

I guess it's too much fun

[dreamy bridge]

can't weapon swap keystones

[jagged wave]

wish I could

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-hump-hump-cat-dance-i-wish-gif-654672730734888209

[timid aurora]

So I can respec to Stormweaver as Chrono?

After patch

[versed glade]

Anyone know if the level whirling slash increases twister damage? Or is it best to keep at a low level to reduce mana costs?

[north pivot]

Can Detonate Dead 'explosion' poison nearby enemy mobs if within range? (Assuming 100% chance to poison on the build)

[dawn spire]

Correct, but why would you respec away from The One True Ascendancy?

[dawn spire]

If the hit does physical or chaos damage, yes

Or if you somehow have a way for other types to inflict poison

[crystal slate]

Is there a way to achive a 100% phys to lightning dmg conversion? Running Plasma Bolt, the gen converts 70% phys to lightning. How can I convert the remaining 30%?

[dawn spire]

Based on the wording of the twister gem, it doesn't seem to scale off of the whirlwind's damage at all

[timid aurora]

Is there a video of Sorc taking on pinnacle bosses for this season? It doesn't seem to have anything that scales crazy anymore

[hollow oyster]

Now that GGG nerfed the Quadrilla, what‘s the best Companion to get? Anybody got anything cool?

[dawn spire]

Last time I looked at the cold chrono on the hcssf ladder, they only had four ascendancy points. They could be dead now for all I know. But ED/contagion seems strong enough to take on pinnacles with the right gear

[patent shell]

guys im wielding 2x 2h MACES why dont i get more dmg ? according a youtuber it should be 40%more dmg multiplier
does pob not calculate it correctly ?

[carmine flicker]

how stupid does str stack CI kitava sound?

[lime tinsel]

"Eye of Winter now gains bonus elemental damage when passing through other elemental orbs like Solar Orb, Orb of Storms or Frost Bomb."

Hrm, perhaps time to try a specer build that uses all the above skills 👀
Orbmancer 🤣

Priest of the sun uses solar orb

[dawn spire]

What skill?

[vast echo]

im using eye of winter but still only using the ground effects they seem to be easier to get off than having to summon 3 different orbs for max damage

much rather use frost wall flame wall and the shocking ground boots

[remote ledge]

Used when you take Lightning Damage from a Hit

Is there a way to get this consistently or increase odds of getting hit by lightning somehow?

[patent shell]

leap slam

[golden sky]

Checking, based on poe2db, infernal hound has a 88% life multiplier, does that mean that Str from sturdy ally have only an 88% effect (not counting any other tree or gear minion/companion life modifiers)

[granite jetty]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Splinter_of_Loratta - would this work with stomping ground? Or is stomping ground not considered a hit with the weapon? Certain things seem to work with it (the support) that I wouldn't expect and vice versa 😅

[arctic sigil]

What jewel modifiers should i look for huntress bleed spear build

[stuck iris]

I am working on a Lighting build for a Huntress and I was wondering is Skysliver any good for Act 2 normal?

[patent shell]

anybody has clear information which applies first ele pen or exposure ?

[thick thunder]

exposure

reduces their resistance, pen penetrates it

[patent shell]

so if monster has 30% ele res and i have 30% pen and 20% exposure it wont go into negative cause exposure apply first

[fleet cypress]

Hey guys...
i have a two question around gas arrow:

• does the explosion only get the dmg from my phys on my weapon?
  ele modifier should be than ignored, right?

*can the explosion crit enemies (should i invest in crit passive points)?

[hearty heath]

Quadrilla nerf?

[atomic totem]

Are there any good warrior builds atm? Want to level one

[patent shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7VbqqjSJIk&t=70s

tried to copy this build but there is not enough information how it rly works and how pob calculates the dmg so i stoped playing it bu he kill xeth with 2 hits 2.5 mil each

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nioLUxzTddo&t=619s

[hearty whale]

did I understand it correctly, new League Mechanics are no longer tied to the actual new League? Like > new League = just fresh economy? But Standard will have new Content too?

[fleet cypress]

correct

[hearty whale]

oh. Thats great to hear. Thank you!

[cursive girder]

I thought they said that was for .2 specifically, but they might separate league content out in the future? but maybe im misremembering

[hearty whale]

I'm hoping not. I'm not really a fan of this kinda system. I dont have a lot of spare time, so yea. That would be a very welcoming change actually

[dawn spire]

Correct. That would get them to 0%

[tidal birch]

How is Huntress melee performing?

[hearty whale]

imo the worse early game a class can have ^^

[atomic halo]

its not a rule going forward

[tidal birch]

Does it get better?

how strong is it compared to other builds?

[atomic halo]

they didnt make wisps a league-exclsuive mechanic because it wasnt on par with historical league mechanics

if they get something good enough on time for 0.3.0 they might make it league exclusive

[hearty whale]

Huntress CAN get very op. But the Early to mid Game is just dgsht

I deleted my Huntress. Patch 0.2 isnt performing good as of now

[tidal birch]

But everything can get very op. Just a question of investment + time. What you are saying, if I understand it correctly, is, that the build is very bad until you have a lot of investment + time, and it takes probably more investment + time then other builds.

[hearty whale]

correct

They nerfed some huntress builds, but they are still viable

[cursive girder]

I've had the same experience with Huntress as I did with Mercenary last patch, which was first couple acts were pretty rough, just felt slow, weak, got my ass kicked. I like the difficulty but def hard. Then into Act 3 + Cruel once you get a rotation of skills, combos, and some nice passives and a couple pieces of gear, it sped up a ton and got super fun. just my exp but yeah

[dreamy stag]

What would be the most interesting asencion for Huntress Bleed ? Amazon or Ritualist ?

Ritualist seems like a lot of generaly good stuff, along side the Corrupted Blood stuff

But Amazon seems nice for the Crit and Weakness stuff

[halcyon solar]

If you have like +100% crit chance on your build that is only on your base, which was only around 11% in previous season right?

[cursive girder]

from what I can see, everyone online is going Amazon for all huntress builds. I went Ritualist , using some blood skills but havent layered in the blood boil stuff yet

[halcyon solar]

Where can you see your minion's Crit Chance? Seems not to be under Details.

oh it is under the specific spell

[thick thunder]

your exposure will set their resistance to 10%, your penetration will have it at -20%

[hearty heath]

Huntress was my easiest leveling yet what, it's rough until rake but rake, the mark, and bloodhunt is so easy. And then transitioning to lightning spear is just a cherry on top

[halcyon solar]

Does +freeze time and Exposure on Jewels apply to minions and their skills?

[tranquil raptor]

I'm pretty disappointed with my current lich build and I want to feel powerful, any builds except for lightining spear which wrecks content this league?

[halcyon solar]

going Frost Mages and Crit for them is totally insane

[tranquil raptor]

something like this? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/be8635af-0e26-4d16-8e47-026eecfb5662/builds/5ca92c96-f80e-4f61-8f18-65fe707e8e98

[halcyon solar]

Kripp is playing that and i trust him more than any other content creator: https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/744455da-0708-423c-9793-f25fec9b6b8a/builds/690fbd40-71fa-47b9-a832-ee2e6d19183d

[tranquil raptor]

thank you

[halcyon solar]

you blow up half the screen with the bombs

[neon gyro]

Anyone know if we equip 2 loyalty support to 2 different companion/rhoa (with gemling node), we will get 20% damage trasfer or not?

[tidal birch]

what is your current lich build and where are you currently at?

[tranquil raptor]

I just feel like I'm doing no damage, I'm can do T1 maps comfortably but nothing super further.

it just feels too clunky to use essence drain and wait like 2-3 secs for first mob to die to begin spreading

[tidal birch]

🤷‍♂️ thats the build I would have suggested tbh. I follow this guide: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/317nx0it

[tranquil raptor]

ye that exactly same one I was following, maybe chaos lich just isn't for me

maybe this season overall feels clunky, previous season I had minion build, lightining monk and concoction being my favourite but all of them felt amazing to play

[copper bison]

Playing deadeye with 2k health and max resist
lvl 82
am i ready for pinnacle boss?
this is for the quest that you first get.

[candid moss]

. I really need some advice on what class to roll this update now that some changes were made. I know it’s all personal preference, but I still appreciate advice. I was a witch in S1 and it was fun for a while rolling with minions, but not having personal agency felt weird after enough hours. I want some personal power. Usually in games I love either mages or beefy melee 2h characters, but sorceress seems very weak right now and I am not sure if they have any “big boom” type abilities, or the tactile feedback I like from games like this. Warrior on the other hand has good feeling hits, but seems really clunky (at least early), like I get stuck in animations all the time and can’t seem to hit who I want. Monk is supposedly combo heavy so idk if I’d like it or not long term. I also tried ranger and it feels pretty good so far but I’m worried it won’t have the tactile feedback / big hitting abilities I like as a little dopamine chimp. Any idea what I should try next / characters that seem good for me late game based on this info?

[hollow oyster]

(New) Quadrilla can‘t have Haste Aura anymore.

[hearty heath]

Oh odd

[hearty heath]

Is that just the aura or hasted too?

[hollow oyster]

The patch notes only mention the Aura

[hearty heath]

That's nice then

[dawn spire]

Classes don't really matter in poe as much as other games. All classes can use all skills and gear. I really liked my ice shot chronomancer in 0.1. The playstyle involved shooting a bunch of ice shots and freezing everything on the screen. When a big mob came by, I'd freeze time, set up tornado shot, use barrage, and unleash a perfectly charged snipe to basically one-shot any rare and take out half of a boss' hp at tier 10 maps with ssf gear.

I don't have a pob I can give you since I'm out of the country atm, but I'd look into some build that utilizes snipe. That might be the oomph you're looking for

[solid badger]

Is Demon Form just dead? I realized I miss the mobility of the demon dash and am thinking of rolling an Infernalist.

[vital walrus]

Is it worth investing 1~3 pts in tree for 5~20% chance to bleed, just to be able to use the Blood Herald skill? For context I'm planning on using it with Armor piercing rounds

[solid badger]

I know the demon dash got nerfed, but anything is better than nothing.

[vital walrus]

you can try shield charge if you like melee. I'm playing a 1h+shield / xbow huntress and realized how fast shield charge takes u

[dawn spire]

Depends on what you want the Herald of blood to do. The explosions are based on the blood loss on the enemy when it dies. So if you're not doing a lot of bleeding damage, the pops aren't going to do very much

[hearty heath]

Use blink, or the new blink unique body armour

[dawn spire]

But if you want to link Herald of blood to, say, supports that give it utility like culling strike or blind, then yeah, that seems pretty good for three points. But idk if it's worth the spirit to use it

[patent shell]

penetration cant go further than 0% it cant go negative

[solid badger]

Sure thing. So Demon Form is dead then?

[vital walrus]

right I saw that.. though I did see that unlike Herald of Ash that works off overkill dmg, so small synergy with Armor piercing rounds with Chain.. Blood Herald does have some decent base damage to it, so i thought it might be enough to facilitate clear

[dawn spire]

It has base damage?

I thought the base damage was a % of the blood loss on the enemy

[hearty heath]

I've seen absolutely nothing on demon form so I assume so, idk if these spell buffs bring it back up far enough but I doubt it

[vital walrus]

iirc yea, think it was 1X~2X or smth like for a lv4 spirit gem

you're also right but it said smth about base dmg too

unless im misremembering

[void osprey]

hello, im playing an Amazon huntress and im currently trying to buy gear for Mapping. Do i need accuracy rating on my helmet?
On my Ascendancy i chose critical strike and penetrate

[dawn spire]

Oh, shit, it has base damage. Well I'll be

[hearty heath]

All acc rating is good, don't have to prioritize it though

[void osprey]

okok tysm

[vital walrus]

my intuition isnt that good bout these things but the base dmg numbers seemed quite alright to me

maybe its enoguh to clear with Armor pierce rounds support by chain?

[dawn spire]

No, you're right. I'm not sure how strong the pops will be with weak bleed

[hearty heath]

You can use haemocrystals with blood herald

That'll help out the clear from it

[dawn spire]

Would haemocrystals even help that much?

[vital walrus]

oh well guess ill just have to level a few times and try

[dawn spire]

Oh, do you mean blood pops trigger bleed and then THOSE mobs get haemocrystals?

[vital walrus]

i'll report back if it's like.. in really useful territory, at least as a leveling tech

[hearty heath]

It's more aoe dmg and turns the bleed into an instant dmg source, so it kinda just moves the numbers around afaik

[vital walrus]

just the aoe pops i mean

i act forgot there was a 2nd part to that herald

what's it do

[dawn spire]

I guess it all comes down to whether or not the spirit + points is worth the clear. If you're doing pure phys it seems like a decent way to enhance your clear

[vital walrus]

yea im pure phys thing is.. the base damage needs to carry it because the bleed procs are prob gonna be negligible

[dawn spire]

I think we were talking about haemocrystals support, not Herald

Herald of blood is just the pops when you kill enemies with blood loss

[vital walrus]

scaling off bleed procs needs to be like off singular bigger hits right, but im tryna get this to work with a SMG type skill with tiny hits, further cut by Chain's dmg penalty

right yea i was talkin bout herald of blood

[dawn spire]

Yeah you don't really care about the bleed damage then. You just want to inflict any bleed to trigger HoB

[vital walrus]

exactly I hope the base dmg numbers are enough

[latent dawn]

Skill converts (60% phys into fire) and then item convert (100% fire into lightning) can it be further converted if you also have 100% lightning -> cold or does it stop at 100% fire into lightning?

[dawn spire]

It doesn't even work the second time

[vital walrus]

if you try to clear like with Armor Pierce Rounds + Chain it's like borderline clearing small white packs in ok speed, wanted to see if Blood Herald can make that go from 'alright' speed to act efficient speeds

[dawn spire]

Conversion only happens once

[latent dawn]

hmm

[dawn spire]

Original type -> new type, no further

[latent dawn]

it says 2 steps

[dawn spire]

Oh, you said skill and item

[latent dawn]

"skill conversion occurs first then conversion from all other sources"

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot the conversion tooltip?

Ah, my bad

Yeah, sorry. I didn't see skill and item

[latent dawn]

I was just wondering if the "all other sources" could be converting each other lol

[dawn spire]

Nah, it's just at those two steps

[languid kindle]

Hi so I’m thinking of starting the league later tonight and I’m looking for a good league starter with a guide to follow

[latent dawn]

the stats on the new Vice gloves (fire -> lightning convert) makes them more appealing but would've prefered being able to have cold dmg (blueflame gloves have much less interesting stats)

[dawn spire]

So 100 phys would become 60 fire and 40 phys from the skill. Then that 60 fire would turn into 60 lightning from the item

If you have conversion from multiple items, they all sum their conversions and normalize them

[dawn spire]

Zizaran's artilly ballista Smith of Kitava on YouTube looks solid. Also there's probably a good essence drain contagion guide for lich/chronomancer on maxroll

[latent dawn]

If you enjoy Totem gameplay, look for Tatiantel or Zizaran's Artiller Ballista guides

If you want a lich caster, there's Captainlance9's chaos dot build or (I forget who's) a Hexblast guide

[dawn spire]

Great minds think alike

And so do we

[latent dawn]

aye

[languid kindle]

Kk

[eternal gust]

yo so i need some help with a build im working on more so the skill tree, or some better item suggestions,
i can send a moba link of what i got so far, its for a Ritualist

[latent dawn]

there are also very strong spear builds to look into but I havent so I cant point you to specific ones

[languid kindle]

I’m down to try the smith of kitava artilery build

[dawn spire]

If you're going to use Herald of blood, I'd drop chain, personally. Using chain on anything just feels so bad

[languid kindle]

Zizaran made it right

[dawn spire]

Except for orb of storms to proc lightning rods in 0.1

He made a version of it at least

He plays it in hc

[latent dawn]

early leveling on warrior before Artillery (lv31 needed) is a bit of a pain, get a strong 2handed weapon and slam your way through lol

[dawn spire]

Or grab a spear and rake+stomp your way to victory

[eternal gust]

Rake and stomping ground then respec is what i would do

[latent dawn]

yea havent tried spears at all x:

[vital walrus]

right it kinda does but doesn't. Armor pierce rounds can't clear packs without chain(or maybe fork or w.e), with it clears but the damage is lacking without like super big investment

[dawn spire]

Great minds think alike.
And so do we

[languid kindle]

Ok Il also check that dot build just in case thx

[eternal gust]

what you think of this https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/3455b8b8-047a-4376-a473-62506501125b/builds/b4e92d0f-4877-4c8f-91c8-6270492d06b2

it what im working on rn

[dawn spire]

Mobalytics on mobile, oh boy

[vital walrus]

I kinda wanna see if u can make Armor pierce rounds(so chain is mendatory, unfortunantely) able to clear

would be cool* if the AoE armor solution also wipes pack mobs

[eternal gust]

i just made it there as im used to it lol

[dawn spire]

I don't have the patience to use that site on mobile to read how it works, so here's my meme summary:
-lmao thorns
-lmao 2 non-uniques

[sage jungle]

Does anyone know if Lich node Price of power works with Twofold support?

[eternal gust]

no u only need 3 of the uniques

i put the rest there for no reason and one of the unique rings aint acc needed
one of them was just for early RES and the crit it gives

[dawn spire]

It should

[sage jungle]

Ok and what if i use potential support as well?

Will i get benefits from price of power and potential from consuming 1 charge? Or 1 charge consumes only 1 benefit

[dawn spire]

If you have two charges to consume, yeah

[sage jungle]

What if i only have 1

[dawn spire]

Idk which one takes priority

[sage jungle]

Ah so i cant consume 1 charge for multiple effects

Only 1 benefit per charge

[eternal gust]

thorns is dumb tho, im doing something like 200k dps on a tanky setup with little investment at start of maps new support gems are dumb af

[dawn spire]

I don't believe so

[sage jungle]

Is that tested?

[dawn spire]

Not that I know of

[sage jungle]

I see ty

[dawn spire]

In order to use thorns you still need to get hit, right?

Even with the new supports

[eternal gust]

ye but see red makes that easier and pale crown makes everything count as a "hit"

[halcyon solar]

There is no Taunt like Support Gem, right?

[eternal gust]

no but See Red

kinda works like that

makes them attack faster. so more frequency of hits

[halcyon solar]

gonna check that out, thanks. Want it to put on a tanky minion

[eternal gust]

see red: enemies you bleed with this skill have increased attack speed and dmg

[dawn spire]

Oh that's clever

[eternal gust]

this is the full description

[halcyon solar]

how do more hits/second generate more threat? You mean by being able to "grab them faster"?

[eternal gust]

i replied to the wrong person oops

but with minions it would work the same

just position them closer to a boss and with a higher frequency of attacks its technically taunted

[silver inlet]

#1323952474817560648 message

Could Anyone help me here?

[halcyon solar]

i have a singled reaper just for Muster

reaver

[gloomy rain]

If a bleeding mob has temporal chains on it, does it do the same total damage but it just takes longer, or do you get more total damage out of the same bleed?

[dawn spire]

More total damage

[lucid tulip]

Duration and magnitude are separate qualities

[eternal gust]

duration inc does give more total dmg

magnitude is just an increase to each proc

[dawn spire]

"expire more slowly" is effectively a multiplier on the duration of the debuff

[gloomy rain]

Nice. I've been on the fence about the Crimson Assault notable since it makes it kind of hard to benefit from stuff like +% attack damage on bleeding targets. Temporal Chains might be able to alleviate that somewhat.

[halcyon bobcat]

If I have an item that has perfect prefixes, can I perfect suffixes too by rolling one and using dextral if it's bad until I get what I want, then fracture all 4 mods, and repeat for the 5th and 6th suffix but without dextral since the 4 mods are already locked by fracture?

[dawn spire]

I'd ask in #2┃crafting-advice if you don't get an answer here

[halcyon bobcat]

Oh right I thought build also involved making gear

[dawn spire]

It often does, but that channel is where you're more likely to find advanced crafting advice

[lucid tulip]

I might be wrong cause I've never used one but I think you can only have one fractured mod?

[dawn spire]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't use a fracturing orb on a fractured item

Or whatever item fractures in poe2

[halcyon solar]

fractured orb are for locking a stat, right?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[halcyon solar]

One strategical aspect to Rituals is considering how terrain fucks you over often enough 😄

I'm in a narrow map with almost no space for Rituals

[elfin dock]

I guess it makes sense but I'm bummed to see I don't generate shock anymore when wearing Call of the Brotherhood. Is there anyway to generate shocks with it? Playing primarily a homebrew lightningspear that I wanted to go ice with.

[halcyon solar]

😿

[vast folio]

Boys, I need help with a decision.
Ice Strike triple herald
NUKE Storm Wave Invoker
Critical Ice Strike
Can't choose what monk I want to play... T_T

[halcyon solar]

What are decent Spectres besides Vaal Guards? The one I'm running alone already screws over being able to see ground effects.

[fair rose]

does anyone know
necro wraiths or ballista falconeer for highest bossing dps ?

[summer thicket]

How does eternal youth work? Does it take all of your energy shield regeneration and puts it in to health and takes away all of your health regeneration from items away or is the energy shield regeneration the only thing that gets taken away?

[fast socket]

Would a valour/banner build work?

[hearty heath]

I think there's a ivy monster in the old forest that has the same % more attack dmg mod that makes the vaal guards as good as they are but their main attack crashes the game lmao

[hearty heath]

For support sure, can go the chest that gives you max valor constantly

[halcyon solar]

doesn't have to be an offensive Spectre. I'm mostly gathering One-Offs for Muster.

[hearty heath]

There aren't really defensive spectres

There crone that uses 5 curses

I think theyve found 1 or 2 so far that actually has a defensive ability

But like even the demon harpies lost their screech

[halcyon solar]

could also be a worse spectre that doesn't clutter the ground that horribly.

a worse offensive one

[hearty heath]

I think nettle ants were decent, mostly for single target

Iirc

[halcyon solar]

fine with me, thanks. Since 80% of my dmg comes from Ice Bomb, I need the other minions mostly for Muster. Got a Terracotta in there aswell just for that reason

[hearty heath]

I'd just check the spectre spreadsheet tbh

[halcyon solar]

Is there one pinned in here?

[hearty heath]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1oadXSCHczpyCgRxzTk3nRBeeOLlefZAzKM3ijwmWevY/htmlview#gid=0

No but there it is lol

[halcyon solar]

idk, although GGG are so vehemently against Movement Speed being standard on boots. It's kinda stupid that 90% of boots simply can't ever make the cut without MS.

[deep berry]

how do you upgrade a companion gem? i don't see it on the engraving list

[urban vessel]

is it worth getting evasion/energy shield equipment on a merc? cuz i dont see any nearby ES nodes regardless

[static torrent]

Go to the All Gems tab.

[halcyon solar]

get what your build is tailored to. Otherwise it's kinda meh unless you have nothing better.

[urban vessel]

ill probs not build it then

[deep berry]

Thanks - I don't think I see it? Just to be sure, I'm talking about a gem to which I've tamed a beast

[halcyon solar]

to be entirely honest. If you are kinda new to the game you should follow a guide at least for your first char.

[urban vessel]

im not new to the game, im new to this class

[dawn spire]

Big disagree, personally. You can only experience poe blind once. After you try that and maybe fail horribly, then try a guide and be amazed at the difference

[dawn spire]

Classes aren't limited in the gear and skills they can use. The mercenary starts on The southern part of the tree where there aren't any es nodes. You could trek over to whatever nodes you want, but early on you won't find any es nodes to help you.

Personally I recommend getting pure damage on your tree and prioritizing gear with life and resistances. That's the case for all classes in the campaign

[halcyon solar]

you are talking campaign

[dawn spire]

Investing into es, evasion, or armor on the tree during the campaign seems like a bad idea to me

Yeah, campaign

[urban vessel]

yeah true, its just so worthless in early game

[halcyon solar]

He said he wasn't new, i was just implying this by the Energy shield question

[urban vessel]

btw, has our spirit from campaign been reduced

[austere reef]

there are these two nodes for fire and cold lowering exposure by an extra 5%, is there not one for lightning?

[dawn spire]

An experienced player can still be in the campaign tho

[dawn spire]

No

[dawn spire]

Lightning gets other cool stuff like Lucky damage I think

[austere reef]

figured that was the reasoning, just wasnt sure if i was blind or not lmao

[robust storm]

would Zealous Inqusition work on spectres with the support that lets u kill ur own minions?

[dawn spire]

Idk, I'd search "exposure" and see what comes up

[urban vessel]

omg i forgor to kill king in the mists on act 1 no wonder

[dawn spire]

What support is that?

[austere reef]

sac lamb?

or minion pact

[dawn spire]

Unless the support says that your minions are your enemies, I don't think it will work.

[desert magnet]

Hey guys, new to building poison - is there a way to apply multiple stacks of posion with one hit of poisonburst arrow?

[dawn spire]

Minions are not enemies and zealous inquisition only works on an enemy

[robust storm]

sac lamb i think? and ah fair enough Byron ty

[dawn spire]

Sac lamb just means your skills that can target minions will prioritize minions supported by sacrificial lamb (or near them)

It doesn't let you damage them

Unless you already have a skill that does that

[robust storm]

OH

that makes sense

[halcyon solar]

I still would prefer to it to be able to sac a minion without Lamb if those aren't up. Seems it isn't working like that.

[dawn spire]

In one hit? Impossible as far as I know.

But If you fire multiple arrows and the bursts overlap, you can hit an enemy multiple times and possibly apply multiple poisons.

[still sluice]

im in act 1 on a lightning arrow build, which one is better quiver to use? one has crit/increase damage with a bow but adds fire damage while the other has lightning

[dawn spire]

What skill is letting you sacrifice/kill a minion?

[dawn spire]

Equip them both and check your dps in the skill details panel

[halcyon solar]

Pain Offering

[dawn spire]

But if it's the second one, I'll eat my shoe

Damage type on your quiver does not really matter in act 1. Damage is damage. Get as much as you can regardless of what type

[dawn spire]

Oh, you mean that if you try to use pain offering on a non-sac lamb minion and no sac lambs are alive/nearby, it won't cast at all?

[halcyon solar]

Seems like that to me. It goes on CD but i get no buff.

it also gets on CD while they are up if you are clicking somewhere totally different so I'm only 90% sure about that. But fairly confident.

[robust storm]

Can I increase the damage of the Armour Explosion support gem with other support gems?

[dawn spire]

The explosion damage? Yes

[robust storm]

@dawn spire So if I had Primal Armament slotted on the same skill gem with armour explosion, the explosion would get increased by the 25% more dmg as well?

[dawn spire]

Well, it looks like the explosion is the same as the damage of the hit that broke the armor, just with 100% Phys converted to fire

So I don't think it can double dip, but yeah, primal armament should boost the explosion one way or another.

[halcyon solar]

Block while holding a Focus?

[dawn spire]

What about it?

[halcyon solar]

i might be totally dumb atm, but wouldn't you need like a Focus and a shield?

[dawn spire]

No

That gives you "+18% to block chance"

Not 18% inc block chance

While holding a focus you will have 18% chance to block with that amulet on

And then that can scale with block chance modifiers

[dusk plank]

How does Zenith work with Internal Flame?

[halcyon solar]

now I'm even confused about shields after that one 😄 Shields only block when you hold them up, don't they?

[dawn spire]

The infernalist stuff? It wouldn't work. You have 0/0 mana which is not 90% or higher

[dawn spire]

No

[atomic halo]

there is passive block and there is active block

[dawn spire]

They always have a % chance to block all strikes and projectiles that you don't evade

[dusk plank]

Are you sure? Because 0/0 is technically 100%.

[dawn spire]

Mathematicians are contentious on this

[halcyon solar]

oh they 100% block while holding and the chance is without lifting them?

[atomic halo]

the % block written on the shield will always roll as long as you have it equipped on your current weapon set

while active block, you just get 100% chance to block

that amulet gives you 18% passive block at all times while wielding a focus

[halcyon solar]

I was wondering about this the whole time, which one it is.

[dawn spire]

Raise shield blocks from the front only (180 degrees)

[halcyon solar]

and that's 100% of blockable dmg?

[dawn spire]

Yes. Shields do nothing vs slams or DoTs, neither actively nor passively

Only strikes and projectiles. Unless you have the warbringer node that lets you block slams I think

[halcyon solar]

can then block things like "Fire spells" ?

[dawn spire]

There is no such thing as an enemy spell or attack in poe2

Enemies can only do strikes, projectiles, slams, and dots

[halcyon solar]

oh i see. Shields are really a big gap for me.

[halcyon solar]

and is there a value of how much of the attack they can max block?

[dawn spire]

If it's a strike or projectile, it's 100% of the damage by default

And, again, enemies don't use attacks

Or spells

At least as far as players' defenses are concerned

[halcyon solar]

This would imply i could block a big ass projectiile disguised as a fireball by a boss?

[dawn spire]

It's not disguised as a fireball, it's a fireball. That's also a projectile. But yes, basically

[halcyon solar]

only as long as it's not aoe?

[dawn spire]

No, projectiles can also be aoe

As long as it's not a slam

You can block any strike or projectile hit

Don't ask how to tell the difference in all cases. I'm not sure

[halcyon solar]

sry for getting so much into detail, but this really interests me. I mean there are quite a few mechanics where smth BIG flies your way and usually you get the hell outta dodge. I can basically just eat those with my shield?

[dawn spire]

Well, feel free to ask, but I won't be able to answer except on a case by case basis

[void osprey]

hello, im playing an amazon with Critical strikes and penetrate selected as my Ascendancy nodes.
im trying to see what is my crit chance for me throwing my Lightning spear. this is with me just standing in my hideout
a little confused by hit chance. could someone help explain?

[dawn spire]

@halcyon solar

[dawn spire]

You're estimated to have ~85% to 107% crit chance vs a enemy that's within 2m of you. Your accuracy scales down dramatically with distance, up to 12m

That dramatic decline is not listed in that estimate

That variance is likely due to the evasion rating of different enemies

[void osprey]

ahh okok, may i know where u got the 107% crit chance from?

[dawn spire]

23.54+83.46

[void osprey]

i understand now

[halcyon solar]

ins't it like you have a very low base crit, which was around 11% the previous patch (for sorc) and all Critchance is based on that?

[void osprey]

also a side question real quick, are anoints on Amulets changeable?

i have never done it before so im a little new to this whole thing

[halcyon solar]

yeah you can freely change them

[void osprey]

thank you very much to both of you for helping me out!

[halcyon solar]

it's often even a good idea to get a cheap annoint first and later get an expensive one.

[void osprey]

cuz im trying to anoint my amulet and im torn between
Serrated Edges (gives 10 crit chance and 30% more dmg to rare and uniques monsters)
and
Harmonic Generator (25% crit chance against shocked enemies and 40% shock on crits)

[halcyon solar]

I haven't played a Huntress yet, but most good guides give you info on Anoints, you can just ignore the rest of the guide if you wanna do your own thing.

[halcyon solar]

^

[agile salmon]

are there any viable non-minion builds for infernalist?

[halcyon solar]

i would say no

[agile salmon]

gg time to level a warrior