2┃build-planning

[static plinth]

I dont think there's much reason to take MoM tbh

It gets rid of some of Lich's best parts

[vast jay]

its possible that a frenzy barrage build would make some boss fights slightly faster.... but some not... i tried it and it didn't work out... but maybe later

[swift estuary]

I wasn't sure if it would check dmg to Health thru ES before hitting your mana or not.

[still rock]

im getting a lot more greater essences now

thats nice

i barely saw any in 0.1

[jovial panther]

Guys is there a viable ICE build?

[copper mirage]

Amy way in the game to get ‘energy shield based on kills’? Gem, gear or passive tree ?

[static plinth]

How do you even get life in this game ngl

[still rock]

grand spectrum, life % on ammy, be titan

etc

[polar wraith]

what equips are good for crit bleed huntress?

[static plinth]

God

Im stupid

"wheres all my life" - has ghostwrithe on

[still rock]

shock siphon support

requires them to be shocked

and soul tether allows oyur life leech overfill to recover ES

thats abt it i think

[static plinth]

man bursting decay does feel like it has potential but lifestacking just doesnt feel good

While also getting enough ES for survival that is

[still rock]

ironically compared to poe1 life stacking is a thing in poe2 its just expensive as fuck

vs ES

or just be titan

gg ez

[cobalt pollen]

will adding life nodes to warrior side ever be a thing

skill tree es basically never got touched so es is still king

[still rock]

i want there to be solutions where armour gives you flat life

either through a keystone or inherently

[static plinth]

Back during release i got duped into thinking Guard was a rework of Armour

Where armour became basically STR ES and functioned like ward if it didnt all go away in one hit

[river drift]

whats the better ascendancy for huntress?

[safe ibex]

does anyone know what "reduced charges per use means"

[cobalt pollen]

amazon

[static plinth]

Top line, "Consumes 36 of 80 charges on use", normally thats 40

[still rock]

amazon seems to be better on paper but ritualist might have more niche uses and better high end investment since +1 ring

but for league start, amazon for sure

[static plinth]

+1 ring is pretty nutty once you have the rings for it

[cobalt pollen]

has anybody done stuff with mind phylact

[still rock]

are there charms even worth using yet

i havent been keeping my eye on new uniques found

[safe ibex]

So could it eventually becomes free?

[still rock]

no, its just 10% reduced from what it was previously

from the base item

[static plinth]

Some of them are pretty powerful

IF THEY WERENT CHARMS

[safe ibex]

ah I see thanks

[vast jay]

if this build sillyfacerolls act viper napuzzi, im officially posting a nerf-huntress in the forms

[static plinth]

This is the only absolute banger imo

since you can force it with stuff like Cloak of Flame

[still rock]

its just spears, huntress has nothing to do with it aside from amazon getting a gazillion crit for free

[vast jay]

ya, i agree, it's just spear skills are busted......

i only have 1st ascandancy, so i dont hjave that crit yet

[still rock]

hearing how effective it is, i wouldnt be surprised at a number fix on that next patch

but it doesnt sound broken enough for them to fix it mid patch

[static plinth]

How much max rage can you get

[still rock]

because the required investment into crit to get it to feel good in poe 2 is pretty high

outside of amazon

[still rock]

30

[static plinth]

cuz funny gloves

[static plinth]

Thats just base

[still rock]

oh you mean with added max

idk

[static plinth]

And we dont have anything like Chainbreaker right

That costs rage

[vast jay]

on my monk i dont crit respec until around start of act 6

[static plinth]

Besides Hateforge but those are gloves so no comboing with Death Articulated

[still rock]

and even then youre required to get a decent weapon crit base for it to feel any good

[still rock]

dunno tbh but i dont think so

imagine berserker will play more with rage

im excited for marauder

[cobalt pollen]

hoping for more bleed stuff from axes/sword

maybe bleed is actually dagger more like

rake is cheeks

[still rock]

its the same problem with ignite, the inherent value for magnitude is too low

bleed is like 15% lol

terrible

[cobalt pollen]

also the way you scale dots is just getting a bigger hit

[still rock]

thats not different than poe1 bleed tbf

but poe1 bleed while aggravataed does like 210% dmg or something

per second

[cobalt pollen]

bleed supp gems weren't so hot up to t2 from what I could tell

t3 is the actual good stuff

[still rock]

the only ailment that changed from having to not scale the hit dmg with from poe1 is poison

[atomic halo]

there's 10 from hateforge, like 10 on the tree

[still rock]

ill explore what ppl are doing with bleed more when im fully done figurting out what im doing with my own build

[atomic halo]

so 50 max rage isn;t hard to reach

[cobalt pollen]

sudden infuri can give you max but 3% chance

[vast jay]

okay act 3 viper boss took 2 triest with a level 26 weapon.... that was kind of fine

[still rock]

tbh nonmechanic related but my fav thing abt spear is when you pop barrage you pop your spear from underhand to overhand

feels so cool lol

#TheLittleThings

[vast jay]

viper napuzzi is the first fight where i felt like barrage was useful

[still rock]

yeah the walls are tiny

or the space you have i mean

build will be similar to terrain bounce spiral volley in that you want the maps with tight corridors

or spark for that matter

[vast jay]

OMG.. BEST change int his patch.. the gateway transition is almost instant!

[still rock]

coming back to the present still sucks

atleast for me

screen is black for like 10 seconds but i can still move around

[gaunt oasis]

Whats the best way to get The Deepest Tower Spiritbone Crown?

gamble?

[pallid wigeon]

I doubt anything is better than the massive amount of crit that Amazon gets. Best ascendency node in the game for pure damage scaling.

[vast jay]

what level do you need to be before it makes sense to go down that over-accuracy path? do you take it second?

[still rock]

for attacks yes

but ritualist is pretty open ended in terms of what you could do with her

[dry pagoda]

I suspect ritualist will really fall off once you start adding difficulty to map bosses and pinnacles

[vast jay]

after i get this huntress into maps, i think im going to try a spear build on my bloodmage

[carmine flicker]

What do you think would be best class for elemental sunder build

Monk?
Kitava?

Smth else?

[vast jay]

playing spears is so NOISY

[gusty timber]

impale should work with bleed by this wording, correct:

since bleed only cares about the pre mitigation damage

[vast jay]

when you say work with.. do you mean can have an impale and a bleed? yes

but bleed is not a "hit" so it won't extract the impale

[gusty timber]

lets say you have a hit that always bleeds (rake)

[cobalt pollen]

where is the impale coming from

[gusty timber]

another skill

[cobalt pollen]

supp gem? or innate to skill

[gusty timber]

lets say you have a 1k dmg impale on a mob already

[atomic halo]

the extracted damage will add to the bleed, yes

[gusty timber]

thank you

thats big

the one thing i noticed is you can only extract one impale per hit though

i was hoping i could use a payload to put a shitton of impales on then extract in one big bleed

[cobalt pollen]

well it says it on the tin here

if you impale then extract then the debuff is removed

[halcyon solar]

can you identify in the maproom before you get your hideout?

ah got it 🙂

[vast jay]

i think you have to "meet" the npcs before they appear in your hideout

[cobalt pollen]

I didn't realize green gems had a very nice bleed support like that

[gusty timber]

only one stack is removed per hit

you can stack as many as you like if you're not also extracting them

[cobalt pollen]

o

[carmine flicker]

60 cap

[gusty timber]

yea

[carmine flicker]

what do you think about grief sundering
should I bother trying it or meh?

(radiant grief for everything in 7 metres always ignited and then sundering for big clears)

[sweet cargo]

Hi guys! I would really appreciate some help understanding how to balance survivability on a pure dexterity character. I've really been enjoying my Huntress build because it does a ton of damage, but she's been dying a lot because she's just got a bunch of evasion and so when a couple hits eventually break through, she just pops. So, what do evasion based builds need in order to survive? (besides just stacking a metric crapton of the stat, of course).

Here's what I do know: resistances should be maxed, and stacking life is important. I can parry things with my shield and dodge roll to evade big hits. My main issue is when there's a lot of chaos on the screen and I get hit by a random AOE or when I get an unlucky roll and something breaks through my evasion rating.

If there's a guide anyone can point me to or something, that would be great. Evasion characters have always given me the ick because of the whole RNG based nature of it all, but I'm forcing myself to learn it because throwing lightning spears is pretty cool.

[gusty timber]

you can probably splash a little ES and run ghost dance

[sweet cargo]

What is ghost dance?

[vast jay]

I run my huntress with Evasion/ES and ghost dance.. and it's way more survivable

[gusty timber]

the unique chests are also a good option it looks like

[vast jay]

ghost dance is an alteranative to wind dancer

[carmine flicker]

ghost dance and atziri's helmet for ES from life

that shoeld help

[carmine flicker]

it's not alternative
feel free to run both

[vast jay]

@sweet cargo what build are you using?

[gusty timber]

kintsugi or hyrri's ire are also good chest options if you can spare the spirit

[sweet cargo]

Right now it's just an Amazon with a bunch of fun lightning skills. I just beat the campaign and I'm looking at about 77% evasion rn

[carmine flicker]

do you use acro?

[sweet cargo]

I've experimented with it and currently I'm not

I just don't think I have enough evasion to justify it

[vast jay]

you dont.... but down the road you could go that route

[carmine flicker]

wind dance + ghost dancer + ES(or may be even CI) is really good survivability

and we even have that buff to "insta recharge" ES now, so there is that too

[sweet cargo]

So, if I use ghost dancer and atziri's helmet, should I switch all my armor pieces to hybrid ES/evasion or still go mostly evasion?

[vast jay]

i personally have never liked evasion overall.. because it's very RNG... you could evade 5 hits and the 6th could be big enough to 1 shot you

[carmine flicker]

that's why you go big ES, like 12k big at least

[sweet cargo]

That's exactly why I've never gotten far with most dex characters lmao. I mostly play witch/sorceress (in both poes)

[vast jay]

You want to gert enough ES that you have a "buffer" for ghost dancer to work on... but ghost dance scales with evasion, so you still want mostly evasion

[carmine flicker]

and now you can't be oneshotted

[sweet cargo]

...so yes on all hybrid then 👀

[carmine flicker]

well
at least you can use shield, right?
it's better than before where staff = no shield

[vast jay]

yeah, there are different ways to do it.. you can go big ES, which is more dex/int... like a monk typically does...

[carmine flicker]

you need at least 50 ES per 1000 eva tho

if you don't go heavy into ES

[vast jay]

or you can go mostly evasion, with say 1/3 as much ES as health.. and the ES is just a bit of "buffer" ontop of your health that helps let your health recharge.. that's more how i run my ranger

[carmine flicker]

so like with 30k eva 1500 ES is bare minimum

[vast jay]

though i've seen many rangers with no ES... not sure how they make it work exactly before acro

[sweet cargo]

I'm uh... currently at 5k evasion

[jovial panther]

Can anyone help me pick a starter build?
I'm looking for two different build, one tanky defence reflect focused , or mage type preferably with ice theme. Simple mechanic builds as i'm old and slow.

[sweet cargo]

But I've only just started mapping so I suppose that's fine. Are there any other notable boosts to evasion rating that I should know about? Points on the passive tree maybe?

[carmine flicker]

well
spells were mostly nerfed in damage a lot
and kitava smith is unkillable bastion of "don't damn care"

[carmine flicker]

..they don't, I guess 🙂

[viscid radish]

I have giga damage and leech

[carmine flicker]

they just suffer

[vast jay]

@sweet cargo amazon also has nodes to let life leech work on elemental dmg.. so it's pretty viable to focus on evasion, strength/health, and lifeleech (i think, im not there yet)

[carmine flicker]

too bad zon have no other defensive nodes

[sweet cargo]

I saw that one near me, wasn't sure if it's good

[carmine flicker]

well
that one is..
basically it say to you "man, go mantle of flame"

up to 50% phys to fire damage convertion is best way to deal with phys atm

[vast jay]

also, if you have not already.. typicaly when you get lots of points in the tree... you can switch the base nodes near your start away from dmg (to attributes, or evasion)

[carmine flicker]

(second best to just have so much pool you really don't care)

[vast jay]

there is diminishing return for "increased dmg" nodes. beacuse when you have 300% increased dmg, getting 30% more is only adding 10% more

[sweet cargo]

Yeah, I know about that

[carmine flicker]

then again 30% damage is one good node

[sweet cargo]

I think the diminishing returns would also apply to the Savagery node you posted

[carmine flicker]

or 2 small nodes in good cluster

[vast jay]

yes, diminishing returns applies to everything "increased" .... but to get high evasion you need to combine high flat evasion with high increased (i don't believe there is any "more" evasion)

[atomic halo]

wind dancer

[carmine flicker]

wind dancer is more

[atomic halo]

charge infusion

[sweet cargo]

50% more evasion rating when you consume a frenzy charge, fair and balanced

[carmine flicker]

charge infusion need endurance charges, good luck

[vast jay]

right, you run wind dancer for more

[sweet cargo]

I do indeed have wind dancer

[vast jay]

there are also a ton of evasion nodes to the north-east of huntress start you can easily get to

near acro

[sweet cargo]

yep, I've picked up a good chunk of them

[vast jay]

mostly get to gear hunting ! 🙂

[lethal pawn]

flathead blacksmith is it any good as a spector

[sweet cargo]

Alrighty! Well, I appreciate the help guys! Time to read a few books so I can equip that hybrid intelligence armor lol

[carmine flicker]

anyway, what would be best class for elemental sunder?

can't decide

it's BIG(screen big) melee elemental(fire..) AOE

[obtuse river]

Got a question. How good is this spear and for what build can i use it on?

[vast jay]

very good the only thing it doesn't have is increased elemental dmg... which is not as much an issue for most builds

[carmine flicker]

and a question
if a skill consume ignite will it(the hit itself) benefit from things like this?

[vast jay]

burning and ignite are two different things

just to be confusing

[carmine flicker]

ignite is burn, no?

[vast jay]

no

burn = fire damage over time... ignite is an ailment

if something walks on burning ground, it burns without being ignited

[carmine flicker]

and if smth is ignited isn't not burning?

[vast jay]

i think ignite counts as burning, but not all burning counts as ignited

[carmine flicker]

yeah, I know that

[vast jay]

so i guess for the clip above... yes you would get increased dmg against the ignited enemy... and then it will consume ignite

[carmine flicker]

anyway, will the skill that consume ignite benefit from that node?

no hard proof, I guess? 😦

[trail lark]

Im building merc totem artilelary totem does this help with the totem damage or u have to exclusively take totem damage node

[carmine flicker]

idk how to even test that

[rustic ravine]

Is huntress lighting build the best way to go rn?

[vast jay]

at what level?

[rustic ravine]

Starting fresh broskiee for my huntress that is

[vast jay]

i personally thing the best low level build is whirl+tornado..... into tornado-speed+bleed, into rake/stomp into herald of blood

it deletes entire screens

eventually you get barrage

[rustic ravine]

Hooo I see is there a current video out at the moment that can follow for a guide atm ?

[vast jay]

this is not exactly the build im using, but it's kinda close and explained well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpm4HSlg4ic

i just added rake/stomp and i go bleed and herald of blood instead of combat frenzy....

[rustic ravine]

I appreciate the help broskiee also what gear should I focus on for huntress evasions ?

[vast jay]

i run a mix of evasion, and evasion ES

rake/stomp is nice because stomp support scales based on your strength.. so your weapon is irrelevant and it does ALOT of dmg

[pallid wigeon]

"Fixed a bug where modifiers to melee splash radius were applying twice" What was this bug? Which build was abusing it?

[rustic ravine]

Ahh I seee

[carmine flicker]

Rakestomp is lvl 6, so not much before go into it

[vast jay]

i couldn't get stomp at level 6 on huntress, not enough strength for stomp

[carmine flicker]

But damage fall of a lot later

[vast jay]

@rustic ravine here is a guide that explains the rake/stomp... you can go pure bleed .. but i prefer mixing them with twister - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqDa4VzEtYA&t=184s

[carmine flicker]

Just run str nodes straight from the start

[rustic ravine]

Will do thanks 🙏

[vast jay]

ya, you can do that.. i preferd running whirl+tornado+autos mostly in low levels, and then i threw rake/stomp in there situationally because @carmine flicker convinced me to try it out

but im not str stacked

[magic spire]

Can you use 3 companions, using the Kinship Node and Yriel(unique armor)? Do they stack for 3 beast companion?

[carmine flicker]

Rakestomp at lvl 6 with 40 str deals 150 damage per rake
That's oneshot at lvl 6

That with zero increases

[vast jay]

im sure it's good, ill have to try it sometime

[carmine flicker]

My biggest problem with it is aoe

It's kinda small even with aoe nodes

Around 3 metres currently

[vast jay]

ya, there are some mobs i dont want to stand ontop of

i am not playing HC, but i play like i am

[dusky wadi]

so im doing poison ranger, ive had the bow on the left for a long time, should i swap it for the zealot bow and upgrade the zealot bow more or stick with the dualstring one?

[vast jay]

i think i have 3 deaths at start of act 4 with no esc resets... (but /deaths seems to havebroken as it says zero)

are you doing toxic growth?

the additional arrow is absolutely huge, but it depends if you are capping out your poisons or not

[dusky wadi]

a mix of toxic growth and poison both but mainly poison burst,i have 8 stacks of poison rn

also this update will fix toxic growth with overburdence

[grizzled ruin]

How can I know if my skill is a hit or attack?

[pallid wigeon]

Is thunderous leap a good skill to moving around the maps or is walking faster?

[vast jay]

i doubt the bow on the right would give you more dmg

[dusky wadi]

mind you it has no quality and no slots yet

[vast jay]

@grizzled ruin if it says attack it's a hit... if it says aoe its not

@dusky wadi ya i get it.. but this is level 28... even if it was better with quality, it's going to be like 10% better and not worth the quality shards

28/40

i would look for a better phys roll

[carmine flicker]

Yeah
That's why want to go elemental sunder

[dusky wadi]

on the zealot bow or just wait till cruel?

[round escarp]

Elemental sunder likely slaps

[vast jay]

@carmine flicker what do you use to put on ailments before elemental sunder?

[carmine flicker]

Radiant grief

[vast jay]

i would just wait for something better to come along.... but that's me... and im usually just flattening everything anyway.. .im in act 4 using my level 28 spear

[carmine flicker]

It's "everything in your presence ifnited"

[vast jay]

elemental sunder is tier 11

im talking about what do you do between level 1 and 30

for ranged

imagine you are leveling in hardcore

[carmine flicker]

Ehh, I will lvl with ragestomp or w/e

[vast jay]

i would never level only ragestomp in hardcore

you stand next to just one mob at the wrong moment in melee range and yer done

[carmine flicker]

Yeah
You go stomp+desingage

To jump in and out

[vast jay]

my strategy to not die is to just pay attention and not go near some mobs that are very dangerous... I always have a melee and ranged ability

[carmine flicker]

Or just overlevel and overfarm for 6 levels

[vast jay]

ya, i dont care for that, too boring

i like to challenge how fast i can go using skills, without dying

but hey, to each his own, many ways to play the game

[unborn jacinth]

think this is the best rake/stomping ground annoint?

[dusky wadi]

i always see these everywhere are they a thing in endgame?

[unborn jacinth]

im on tier 10 maps and its ez

[carmine flicker]

Yeah
Thing is
I don't even know what class to use for sundering
Can't decide warrior vs monk

[vast jay]

yeah.. if you hold alt on a skill in the passive tree, you can see what it takes to annoint it onto an amulet.. then you can take it without pathing to it (does NOT work on the big notable nodes)

[dusky wadi]

what would be a good one for poison?

[vast jay]

i wouldn't worry about anointing until you are doing T8-T10 maps... you need to farm the essence mats to do it

[midnight obsidian]

is the power rating sort by anoint not in pob2 yet?

[dusky wadi]

i was thinking maybe the one that makes the poison effect stonger for unpoisoned enemies, but thats only cause its in a REALLY weird spot

[carmine flicker]

Monk is free spirit and good with ghost/wind dance
And some damage on top

[static plinth]

Does PoB not have a Rage setting?

[carmine flicker]

Warrior is easy 90 res or 90 block, both good

[vast jay]

@carmine flicker does elemental sunder crit? because monk also gets to ignore ele res for crits

[carmine flicker]

Well
It can if you go for it
It's an attack

Get high crit spear and crit nodes and it will crit ofc

[vast jay]

OHH WOW.. they added a spear culling strike that grants a frenzy charge.. NCIE

[unborn jacinth]

i also considered this node because of lycosidae and 300 str

[carmine flicker]

But warrior is no cooldown infernal cry
That is really good damage upgrade

[vast jay]

has anyone found any real value to companion taming yet? i think it's a neat idea, but it doesn't seem worth

[unborn jacinth]

haste aura, %life as es aura, allies regen aura

[gusty timber]

can shocked ground created by you, be reflected back to you with this?

[unborn jacinth]

just the haste aura is 25% ms 25% attack and cast speed

[radiant wraith]

flash grenade is absolutely sick

found a cancer elite that ignores your dmg ? throw a flash at them and they rool on the ground instant

[unborn jacinth]

this annoint is like 30 ex but also kinda nuts

[radiant wraith]

ah i just take it normal way

but yeah its great

[pallid wigeon]

Checking poe2ninja, why are there people going lightning spear with twister. Also some of their builds don't even include a way to get elemental ground effects.

[vast jay]

i don't get lighting spear with twister either...... i think people have trouble finding an elemental ground effect before they can get frostbolt later.... I used quarterstaff frozen locus before frostbolt

[vast jay]

my guess would be no.... that the shocked ground would not be reflected to you.. but youd have to test

[pallid wigeon]

Well, the site also lists what skills and gems they are using. There's no frostbolt or waking destruction boots. Nothing. It's just lightning spear, whirling slash, and twister.

[still rock]

link the one in question

[vast jay]

what level are these builds for?

[crude tree]

is this good or do i go for more EV and sacrifice MS?

[hidden hill]

So I'm actually making a focused Companion Lich build as a response to companion question. Had to really do research on the database to understand stuff though. Going to end up doing Yriel's Fostering for the double companion. Goal is to go Poison Lightning with Lich Unholy Might node for Lightning Storm, Always Poison, Extra Crit on the Major damage dealer. Gilded Beetle for support Companion.

[vast jay]

there are ways to use lighting spear to shock, and for shock to cause shocked ground, and then you'd have your element, no?

@hidden hill it there a way to speed up compansions? i saw someone with a beetle companion and it was so slow

[hidden hill]

So functionally, not really. But, that's not really what you want them for anyways.

[vast jay]

those are troll boots imo

[hidden hill]

They pull pretty quickly while moving to you if they train too far away

[crude tree]

ah, i thought the ms would make it good, thanks xd

[vast jay]

its random 0-40% MS.... could be 3% MS

everytime you get hit it switches

you should just get 35% MS boots

[crude tree]

didnt know boots acc went that high, ive been doing ranged spear + Wind dancer so i rarely get hit after i get it to like 38% or smt

[hidden hill]

The Lightning storm can hit almost at screen edge, but its a really wierd affect. The big thing about Companions that people are sleeping on is that they can pull the huge Spirit cost spectres as percentage cost themselves rather than direct costs. What this allows is some of the 100+ spectres with huge base damage multis.

[halcyon solar]

If you have the Sacrifical Lamb Gem on a minion an all of that kind are dead atm, it somehow seems to me that Pain Offering doesn't chose another minion then? Am i wrong there?

[still rock]

what does gilded beetle give you in particular

outside of monster mods

[vast jay]

what do you mean "pull the spectres"? as in summon them?

[hidden hill]

The rallying cry war cry, Lightning novas for AoE, And a type of charge.

[still rock]

have you found a particularly good checkpoint to farm one?

looking at its poedb page now it seems good

[hidden hill]

So some spectres have upward costs of 150+. So something you really wouldn't want more than one of. However, those spectres have crazy base damage multipliers which DO affect the Lightning Storm and any abilities they have. Crested Behemoth which is my endgame base goal for this has a 3.38 base damage multiplier for instance. Compared to my current Quadrilla's flat 2.

Unfortunately, I'll be looking once I hit level 52. Took awhile to really find a good base rare to carry me in Act 3. Ended up settling for Quadrilla+ Skeletal Frost mages.

[still rock]

i just went with quadrilla for campaign as support because of the ease in resetting it

[hidden hill]

Pretty much that.

[still rock]

but beetle sounds infinitely better

[celest oxide]

I swear the only build I see rn is lightning spear on mobalytics lol

[hidden hill]

I spent about an hour trying to find just 1 rare Drudge Osseodon and just ended up giving up.

Since the Drudge is one of the highest base multpliers outside of Trial of Chaos.

Anything in Chaos Trials is gonna actually end up being easier to get mods on though. Since Lethal Rares adds mods for free if you can roll it during a run.

[still rock]

yeah i noticed that

i tried out the chimera but its slow asf

itll tp to you eventually but it felt bad because of how slow it was

[hidden hill]

It's why I ended up padding with Frost Mages for mob control atm.

[lofty stirrup]

have a question with SNIPE, does skill speed affect it's mana/ is it beneficial?

[pallid wigeon]

Can twisters chain? Or does it do nothing for it?

[hidden hill]

Functionally, as tooltips read, it should as Skill Speed traditionally is additive to attack speed/cast speed so it really depends on when it calcs the cost. It might be a novel workaround, but without the specifics of the formula we'll likely require personal experimenting.

[vast echo]

anyone know of a easy way to get shocking ground to appear as a elemental sorc

im using eye of winter with wall of flames and frostbolt and its going really well but cant seem to find amy way to incorparate shocking ground too

or if it would even be worth it

[tawny cairn]

Is there a good Huntress build for this unique? I got it and want to build around it

[radiant wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHA7I3nFf2Y&ab_channel=JudgeDredd

grenade launcher titan is the easiest to play op builds i ever seen here

doesnt require any grindable gear aswell

[dusky wadi]

how do you go back to utzal in act3 if youre in cruel difficulty?

[vast jay]

its actually really annoying, i think if you port to act 2, then back to act 3, you can port to the "present" in act3

[solid walrus]

chaos and posion is the same damage type? and resist? right?

[halcyon solar]

What does "Venerate a Maraketh Shrine" mean?

Or what and wehre are those Shrines?

[vast jay]

it means you open the shrine after completing a ritual.. the shrine with the "bonus"

[soft cargo]

Does anyone know how Tamed Beasts scale off with the trail of fire mod? Like how big would the ignite be depending on gem level, or is it based on the tamed beast?

[echo ice]

Can you play and ascension in standard league or are the new ones like lich only in the new league patch?

[deft osprey]

Is cast on ignite currently bugged?

Mine won’t activate on weapon set 1

It will on 2

[gilded tangle]

Does "Muster" buff all minions or just the one the it sits in?

[neon scaffold]

What's a good build for ultimatum? (that can do it safely and fast)

[vast jay]

everything is in both leagues.... the only difference is the economy reset

[polar zealot]

Is there anyway to make killjoy viable on life builds

Not sure if I can sustain life without flask

[echo ice]

Thanks so much 🙂

[carmine flicker]

Vaal pact

It already disable flasks so you lose nothing

[haughty wadi]

does the added damage from barbs support base physical damage? or is it unmodifiable thorn damage

and does it get added before or after modifiers to "thorns damage"

[livid ridge]

rip treant foulspawn, gone too soon

[vast jay]

does glacial lance create chilled ground? it looks like it does, but it doesn't say chilled ground

[azure wyvern]

How does evasion builds work?
Do you get as much life as possible too?

[vast jay]

the idea is, with enough evasion you should only get hit every once and a while

so you need a buffer for that big hit, plus enough evasion to not get hit often

at low levels you can use ghost dance and some ES

[azure wyvern]

Well, I am witchhunter with a spear.
I don't know if I should be going for ES

[vast jay]

im using some ES with my huntress spear

it really depends, if you can get some life leech, you can get away with just lifepool

its just usually harder to get good liferegen early, so es recharge works better until ~40

though honestly, the best way to make this less an issue is to kill things faster...

What level are you and what build are you using?

[azure wyvern]

Around 30lvl
I am making bleed crit build

[vast jay]

based on what skills? rakestomp?

[azure wyvern]

Yea

My friend has the unique spear with fork crit

I can make crit work, just need to level up more

[vast jay]

im level 52 with 1300life 116 shield, running ghost dance.. with 58/36/35/21 resists.... and nothing is killing me.... im using whirl+twister(bleed)+rakestomp+heraldofblood+ghostdance

[azure wyvern]

Do you know how witchhunter's concentration debuff Works on bosses?

Like how good it is to lower their attack speed?

[vast jay]

i dont know the details... but with bosses the idea is not to get hit

with evasion lowering boss attack speed is not that amazing.... evasion defenses are designed to avoid most hits... but you are going to get hit at some point and you need to survive it

[potent shoal]

When I ran witchbane+no mercy, its effects were absolutely negligible, I just treat it as a 40% damage amp

It was relatively funny watching general mobs just stand there and not cast their abilities but vs bosses i didnt feel it

[hexed frigate]

Hey guys, i'm looking for a lich spectre build but can't find it on the internet, any help please

[vast jay]

okay, it is very hard to capture beasts with this build, because it is killing rares too fast

does anyone know if a monk-chulua with no spirit can summon compansions?

[tawny cairn]

Hey guys is there a Amazon Huntress build that uses „The Coming Calamity Heroic Armour“? Got it dropped and want a build with the armour

[lean palm]

Anyone running the kitava warrior,specifically manifest weapon

[carmine flicker]

Skill doesn't work

Well
It does
But damage isn't there

[queen escarp]

sooo im going artillery totems tactician and im looking at this node but it is a minion will it still be good in a totem build im thinking of going it as 1st ascendency

[carmine flicker]

Node doesn't scale properly

Like it does almost no damage

Wait till fix

[queen escarp]

oh better go one of the other ones then for now

pin one is probably good defence for now then

[gusty timber]

impale damage ignores the dmg effectiveness of the skill that extracts it, correct?

[hidden hill]

Does anyone know if Trampletoe will trigger off of minion kills or do I still need to count as the one who killed them?

[gusty timber]

since it's stored from the applicator hit, right

[analog iris]

Hello everyone

Have you finished chapter three?

[viscid radish]

Si

[high rivet]

what are the ways to reduce or nullify ignite? i know of the chestpiece ashrend

[ember parrot]

Like everything right now? 🤣

[lean palm]

so i did some braining and it will take around like 600 strength to get the scaling similiar to an ability

600 strength being 200% attack damage which is a little lower then most abilities

[carmine flicker]

except base damage is ass too

[fiery jolt]

Hi all - Quick question, when i last played the game in 0.1 the plasma bolt skill on the xbow when supported with scattershot used to fire 3 shots one after another ( like High velocity round - like pew pew pew) now it fires 3 in a cone. Is that a change in 0.2 or is the skill bugged ? I loved my plasma bolt build in 0.1 and thought with crossbows a bit buffed it would be fun again but this 3 in a cone sucks 😦
Thank you!

[lean palm]

base damage is based off your weapon

your weapon damage plus the damage increase

but it takes so much to invest into like 600 strength just for it to be somwhat close to an ability damage

[lean palm]

scatter shot technically is supposed to be a cone

try looking fro another support gem that did what that did last patch

[fiery jolt]

But it does one after another when i slot it in high velocity round and it performed like that on plasma bolt in 0.1 as well

[carmine flicker]

yeah, but what are the scalings?

like % DE?

afaik those are bad

[lean palm]

1% damage per 3 strength

you have to build up your own scaling with strength pretty much

[grim grove]

does mind over matter affect the mana regen effect from soulless form?

[lean palm]

thats why im saying you need like 600 strength

[somber vale]

Anyone know if Beacon of Azis sets resistance to 0 so that exposure would add additional damage? Or does it not let exposure work with it?

[lean palm]

so from what i am reading that seems to be bug and it should be going pew pew pew not pew in 3 seperate ways

[fiery jolt]

yeah that's what am thinking so i checked patch notes but didnt find anything so was wondering if it is a known bug, if not how do we report it ?

or if it was a change made in 0.1 when i stopped playing

[wary oar]

guys, does blasphemy aura socketed with curses deal damage with decaying hex?

[lean palm]

yes

decaying hex just makes your curses do damage right?

[wary oar]

yeah, %100 of int per 8 secs

sorry, %100 int per sec for 8 secs

[lean palm]

then yes it should blasph still works as a curse just in an aura so all supps should work with it

[lean palm]

give me 2 seconds

checking something

[ember parrot]

Lich can theoretically with a combo of 'Life can't change while you have ES' with the unique armor with 'Dots Bypass ES'.

[stuck iris]

is there a gem that is better at leaving frozen ground than Frostbolt? I am following an Amazon Critnado build and it uses frost bolt to add cold to the twisters and I am wondering if there is a better skill gem for that...

[lean palm]

so im ngl this depends if exposure is applied before or after the crit i believe so if the exposure hits before then no becuase it would reduce the res then the ignore would come into so it wouldnt work but if the exposure hits after the crit yes??? cause the crit would ignore res then exposure comes in but it could also just not work since technically the damage wouldve already hit before exposure was applied??

the more i think i belive it doesnt work

[high rivet]

hmmm, im planning on being infernalist

im super sleep deprived and trying to think of a super weird build

[dusty kiln]

is there a limit to how many bolts siege cascade can shoot?
and what IS the area where it locks on?

[analog iris]

what's the price checker of choice now

[scarlet crag]

price checker mmom.com

[gilded tangle]

Im at act 3 Cruel and i find storm mages to be faster han vaal guards. Vaal guards have some ramp up before they do dmg. Perhaps in maps u you need more DPS and it is better there?

[spice timber]

I think this is how you lich?

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/6yg1t00q

[pallid wigeon]

Cast Speed and skill speed doesn't affect Ritualist's Ritual Sacrifice. It's always 5 seconds, you can't reduce it. That sucks so badly.

[manic valley]

I picked smith of kitava because i wanted to use the animate weapon skill. Now its looking straight up unusable? Or do you think someone will come up with a solution?

[mighty wing]

how does the "hits have a chance to cause bleeding" work, like if my quiver has 15% and i take 6 nodes that give 15%, do i then always apply bleeding

[weary elbow]

what build should i look up to understand why lycosidae is getting spammed insane at 3 d. I have a huntress half leveled, I'll go look at the guide to see if i should just finish it now that i have the shield

like whch amazon build uses that shield lycosidae

[mighty wing]

pretty much every acc stacker🤣

[weary elbow]

i'm new to poe in general, i dont know what that means. should i just sell it now for a realy strong league start?

or is the build so strong that i should use it to farm since i have the shield right now

[mighty wing]

accuracy, the amazon has ascendancy node that increases your damage from accuracy

[weary elbow]

ah okay so "accuracy rating is doubled" is massive

[fiery scaffold]

is this even any good?

[mighty wing]

i would guess so

[mighty wing]

for that level yes

[fiery scaffold]

too bad it wont probably sell

[mighty wing]

pretty niche, would seem pretty good with widowhail

[fiery scaffold]

there are some at 1 div but it will never sell at that price

ill see if i can get idk 5 exalted out of it

[mighty wing]

try more

5 is nothing for such rare rolls

[fiery scaffold]

thing is barely anyone is trading at this level

and who would want to spend lets say 20 ex on a low level item

[mighty wing]

idk, if we were just a bit farther in the patch you could buy that and it would last you the whole campaign

[dusty kiln]

so does "watch how i do it" work on artillery totems or not? im still not sure...

[pseudo vortex]

Does the revenge node, in the Atlas passive tree, thorns damage scale with the titan's stone skin ascendancy point or the sturdy metal node?

[sly lava]

How can i get frenzy charges lighting arrow dead eye?

[olive summit]

afaik you don't

but I came here to ask is there any reasonable way to use frenzy charges in a build

[lime prairie]

I am at work currently, what level does the spear field gem go to now that it's gem tier 5+ is that like lvl 20?

[distant glade]

What are the best defensive ascendency nodes in the game?

Besides smith

[patent shell]

did anyone test this ?

and can u wield 2x 2h sword in each hand ?

or only 1 2h sword in 1 hand and a shield

[lime prairie]

It would still be considered a two handed weapon so I assume it's a 2h and a shield

[crude crypt]

Huntress recommended ascendancy?

[uncut jay]

is weapon the only item that gives attack speed? Im looking at any ring/armor that gives attack speed and nothing shows up. At least not for my lvl 10 character

[pseudo kayak]

Which builds feel really fun right now?

[heady palm]

Is there a way to be low life with CI?

[patent shell]

ur skill tree or gloves can also give speed

[fierce valve]

does the 5link vaal orb thingy still work?

[distant glade]

Yes

[vocal wave]

How is merc feeling this season? Have not played one yet.

Not feeling the Hunter play style right now.

[haughty wadi]

what's the max stacks on the new jade warbringer skill

[vast echo]

id say temporal rift on the chronomancer

basically an instant full heal for energy shield and health every like 5 secs provided ur not getting one shotted

[zinc linden]

tanky build for poe2?

[fleet blaze]

does this work only if i have energy shield?

[zinc linden]

It works as it is written.

1. you get 20% of **maximum **energy shield as stun threshold (even if you take enough damage that you get 0 current energy shield, this mod doesn't stop working)
2. 20% increased st while on full life doesn't care about ES at all

[fleet blaze]

so with 1k/1k it's 400 ST while full life even with 0/1000 ES

i wish ST showed up on character sheet

[zinc linden]

20% increased stun threshold scales of your stun threshold

assuming your base ST is X, with this mod allocated an dwith 1k/1k life/es and when you are at full life:
(X + 200) * 1.2

that's your final value

[spiral moth]

Does gem level or the original enemy level affect how much spirit a companion costs?

[alpine parrot]

what is a good kill time for bosses t15/16 in this leauge? is 1 min too slow or good?

[zinc linden]

given reddit feedback i think 1hour for t15 boss fight is expected minimum O_O

[crisp obsidian]

My manifest weapon skill shows in the tooltip that it gains attack speed depending on the quality of the gem, but i cant use a GCP on it, how do i gain quality in the skill then

[alpine parrot]

im having a relaly good time with huntress

as easy as it gets

[heady palm]

I think i'm done lol, spent a 2 hours trying to come up with a build that fits my idea, and it's literally impossible

the only builds available are the ones that GGG FORCES me to play

[alpine parrot]

what class?

[heady palm]

ritualist, built around self damaging + the life recovery ascendancy

the goal was to pump my life regen into ES, and stay low life (via self damage)

I got to a point where it was somewhat functional, survivability and gear-wise

but all the gems are dogshit

there's so much forced interaction

[fiery scaffold]

i need help to understand the math here

[alpine parrot]

just uppd my dps by 30-40% after the fight so wouldve tkaen shorter lol

and i need to get 4th ascendency too

[fiery scaffold]

i have 129% chance to hit so 25% of that 29% extra goes to my crit rate

so how is it giving me 17%-40%

[zinc linden]

dont worry, i haven't seen a single boss t15+ yet :D

still running towards =D

[topaz talon]

I want to build a Tactician Shock + Aura bot, any guides around yet? I imagine it will stack multiple banners.

[dawn spire]

If any exist, they'll be in mobalytics, maxroll, or YouTube

But since pob isn't even updated yet, I doubt we'll see many until then

[topaz talon]

Okay, guess I will use old guides for support builds and toy around myself then.

Probably going to be the same skills anyway for things like lightning rod

[dawn spire]

Lightning rod got giga nerfed, I'd be careful

But then again, spark got giga nerfed and it topped the ladder so who knows

[topaz talon]

For real? Still archmagery all the way?

[topaz talon]

Well sounds like I am already outclassed. Stormarrow???

[dawn spire]

It's a lot weaker, but I'm guessing it's not the strongest build available. It was just familiar and it blew past the people experimenting with new shit who gave up on spark

[short eagle]

Hi guys I am new to building and stuff and even newer to warrior. I see a lot of people running Giant's Blood with a off hand shield, my question is why exactly do people use shields and seems to favor block chance, are people choosing shields for stats or do they actively block attacks on endgame?

[dawn spire]

Tbh I have no idea what a support build entails in poe2 aside from the memey insane duration time freeze chrono build

[tribal compass]

Is poison concoction still good?

[dawn spire]

Mostly passive block chance and the defensive stats you can roll on them

[topaz talon]

Oh yeah my wife played that one and we never saw bosses participating at all. But also rarity culling was doing lifting

[short eagle]

Oh so there is a blocking passive? or is it a node that makes it a passive? sry if its a dumb question

[dawn spire]

Shields grant passive block chance that is independent of the raise shield ability. They just block a % of all strikes and projectiles

[distant glade]

Because that’s the only defense warrior gets lol

[dawn spire]

They can also roll resistances, life, etc

[short eagle]

I see, now that is compelling. Thank you ^^

[distant glade]

But yeah there’s a passive block that caps at 75% chance and raise shield always blocks

[short eagle]

Good to know there is a cap

[fleet blaze]

please help I'm trying Detonate Dead cast on minion crit/death detonate dead. my minions just die and then I have to wait 27 seconds to detonate dead again?

[jovial panther]

Guys any very tanky build around (preferably Smith no shatterbone main gem), or ice mage builds?

[distant glade]

Why no boneshatter?

Just go smith and use any skill

The defenses don’t change

[jovial panther]

Because I dont feel like to use it....also If it was that easy and simple as this I wouldnt be here asking from the experts...

[distant glade]

Smith of kitava will have the same defenses no matter what skill you pick. 90% all res with phys as fire

[jovial panther]

I think the communication is lacking from my side. I'm a newcomer, I dont know how to make things synergise and work together. So telling me just go on without any guidance is throwing a a baby to the lions expecting it to survive.

I'm not trying to create a build, I'm looking for one that viable and working properly

[distant glade]

lol fair enough. Do you want a full guide or just some direction? Most people playing warrior are playing boneshatter because it’s just that good. I was considering playing smith with crossbows leveling with grenades and switching over to lightning at some point

I would check out mobalytics and maxroll to see if there is anything on there you like

[north pivot]

Anyone done any Smith builds that are not Rake, Lightning Spear or Boneshatter?

[distant glade]

There’s also mace strike , using a cultist hammer

Not sure if that’s still good in 0.2 tho

[north pivot]

ah

[jovial panther]

Yes, looking for a full guide to get my grisp on, and maybe learning from it,

[north pivot]

was looking for some ideas 🙂

[jovial panther]

You and me, both... hahaha

[distant glade]

I don’t have a guide for it but I don’t see how crossbows on smith is bad

[north pivot]

bit bored of the same theme so need a breath of fresh air. Was wondering if that Fire Spell on Hit Smith would work

or even that Manifest Weapon if it's good

[jovial panther]

I have no idea....i read, though there would be cool stuff out thre, but it seems people not exploring that much, and sticking with spear/light/bleed, minion, boneshatter

[still rock]

It's pretty common to start a fresh "league" with something thats known to work

[scarlet crag]

1

[carmine snow]

bro I have drive orb help me?

[north pivot]

I wonder if phys based Twister/Whirling Smith could work

[carmine snow]

I want Mirror of Kalandra

[still rock]

hot single mirror of kalandras near you

[still rock]

no reason it wouldnt

[carmine snow]

How much does Mirror of Kalandra cost

[still rock]

the reason rake is popular for smith is because you mainly are scaling strength, whereas with twister youd probably want some frenzy charges, lots of attack speed, maybe some proj dmg, which is all on the bottom right quadrant

so youd just be traveling for longer

heres a start if you need breadcrumbs though, theres a few on poe ninja

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Smith+of+Kitava&skills=Twister&heatmap=true

[north pivot]

oh cheers.

sorry what the difference betwen red and green and light green tree on that link?

[pale niche]

I honestly can't tell if Barbs and Quill Burst can crit or not

[north pivot]

there's this guy Kal_Torak who is testing these out in this current build.

[pale niche]

Yeah i know, but he knows even less than me xd

[north pivot]

I like to try thorns but also want some form of active gameplay than just simply use Punch.

just didnt look fun in his clips

[pale niche]

The problem really it's that really non-intuitive to check

Rapid Assault can either full crit or not crit?

[carmine snow]

lol

[still rock]

spectrum from green to red on how many people in the filtered list are using the nodes

[pale niche]

Or is each different instance of attack a different roll?

[still rock]

its like a heatmap basically

[north pivot]

so it's combination tree of those three players?

[still rock]

yes

its infinitely more useful when theres more to pull from lol

but yeah only three its gunna be weird looking

[north pivot]

i suppose as time goes more will play it

so more data.

[still rock]

tbh most are going to run it as amazon id imagine

[north pivot]

that too.

[still rock]

im playing it as tactician for the pin but the dmg difference is insane, amazon just shits free crit damage

[turbid estuary]

Hey everyone, quick question!

So far, it looks like the classic Totem builds from PoE1 aren’t really a thing in PoE2, right?
I mean the usual ones in PoE1 like Freezing Pulse Totems, Holy Flame Totem, Arc Totems, Ballista builds, etc.

I know there’s a skill called Ancestral Warrior Totem, but it doesn’t really work the same way as those old-school totem builds from PoE1, right?

Do you guys know if they’re planning to bring those types of Totem builds back at some point in PoE2?

Thanks!

[north pivot]

I dont think anyone will know

[still rock]

as of now you are correct, although Templar inclusion at some point might see more traditional totem spell builds

[north pivot]

they havent said one word about totems to date?

yeah Spell Totem would be a support I think once Templar goes live, along with RF 😉

[turbid estuary]

oh okok, I hope you are right 😄 thanks for your answers

[north pivot]

Copium my friend.

[still rock]

theres Dark Effigy which is definitely useable, and tactician has potential in being a ranged attack totem build user

[turbid estuary]

@north pivot Templar is confirmed then?

[still rock]

All poe1 classes are coming over

they will have slightly different ascendancy flavors but mostly the same

[north pivot]

Well he didnt physically say RF and Spell Totem are for Templar but it's going to be rather obvious, unless some weird change they do.

You never know.

Hopefully RF is not an ascendancy skill node.

[north pivot]

are you actually playing Tactician Whirling / Twister? Would like to see link to char if possible pls. Trying to get some ideas.

[still rock]

https://poe2.ninja/account/character/99415/papazookeeper

not fully there yet but its functional

[north pivot]

hrmm link not working

[pale niche]

Ok, it SEEMS* (not sure, god knows) that Barbs and Quill Burst actually can crit, but it's based on thorn own roll

[north pivot]

you playing Thorns build at the moment?

[still rock]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/19bf

try that

[shadow zephyr]

So according to the search function no one's talking about bind spirit, I have questions.

1: Bind spirit says capture a defeated monster... is that any monster, or normals only?

2: What are the spirit costs per monster?

3: If the answer to 1 is any monster, is anything about Tame Beast (which specifies Rare Beasts) better than Bind Spirit to make it worth the higher stat investment? (level 9 skill gem int instead of level 7 dex/can be subbed with unique gloves for str)

[north pivot]

nice decent spear

[still rock]

was like 10 ex without quality or socket, probably worth much more in reality

got a good deal

[north pivot]

yeah it's actually very good

[still rock]

but yeah its a good starting place

[north pivot]

@still rock what is Spear Throw used for in your case?

dont you only have to use Whirling/Twister?

[still rock]

additional dmg to finish off rares or bosses

sometimes its quicker to just do some spear throws instead of winding up the twister machine again

and its free

[north pivot]

ah ok. makese sene.

[still rock]

espec running salvo on twister sometimes you get unlucky and they all fly backwards away from your target lol so spear throw just nice to fit in some single target dmg when its ultimately necessary

[static torrent]

1: Any regular monster (ie not a boss), but they don't keep their mods even if you target a magic or rare.
2: Depends on the enemy, you will see them above the corpse when you're binding the Spectre.
3: Tame Beast keeps up to 4 rare mods on the Beast, whereas Spectres lose all the mods. Therefore, if you manage to get a Beast with 4 of the affixes that you want - various auras to buff you and heal you, for instance - then it can be a much bigger help than a random Spectre.

[urban vessel]

does minion damage work on crossbow totems?

[static torrent]

Inspect the Totem keyword, it tells you the answer

[urban vessel]

oh

aight

[static torrent]

The keywords and nested tooltips often have answers to common questions, so it's highly recommended to check them if you're ever unsure about something.

[urban vessel]

i checked the wrong tooltip, thats all

[static torrent]

Fair enough.

[shadow zephyr]

Thank you for the detailed answer to my wall of questions earlier... 😄 Now I just need to go find myself a pair of viking gloves so I can use my str for spears/tame skill.

Part of that tooltip is a lie, by the way. "Totems are not minions."

What that should say is "Minion buffs don't apply to totems," because if you try to socket a Dark Effigy (Spell, Totem, not a minion) into cast on minion death (or cast on anything) the game won't let you... even though it's not a minion. ;_;

My poor totem-looping dreams were crushed opening season. 😄

(Yes, I made a report on the bug forums about this lol )

[prime idol]

Hi there, quick question. Can I use concoction skills without equip bow and quiver, like use spear and shield instead.

[static torrent]

Dark Effigy isn't a Spell, directly, though, it's a Totem that casts a Spell. I don't believe Cast on X allows you to summon Totems.

[static torrent]

No ascendancy skills require you to have a specific weapon equipped. Concoction skills don't use your weapon anyway, but are Unarmed and will switch to an Unarmed weapon set to be used, so your primary weapon set doesn't matter.

[distant glade]

You need to be unarmed

[shadow zephyr]

Cast on X specifically disallows minion skills, which Totems explicitly are not. 😄 I 100% believe your reading is correct but that's not what it says.

Also, dark effigy is actually tagged as a spell, and is affected by spell support gems.

[static torrent]

Because then you're supporting the Spell that Dark Effigy casts, not because the Totem itself is a Spell.

[tawdry orbit]

They now require being unarmed, meaning you can only have a shield equipped. This also means auras like all heralds and even wind dancer cannot be used while using concoction skills

Quivers might still work? But you’d be sacrificing one of your very limited defensive options for some more dps.

[north pivot]

How you finding the experience in maps so far?

[prime idol]

that's great, I was trying to build a thorn retaliate concoction. Just want to see if a shield can be equipped.

[tawdry orbit]

Ahhh, yeah 100% can

[shadow zephyr]

I could see this take but then why tag the totem itself with the spell tag? It's a little confusing and unintuitive (every other skill has sub-tabs that detail what kind of effects they are).

I was also using a warbringer with ancestral call, so creating my totems created minions that would trigger cast on minion death... 😄 but I couldn't socket a totem in there to make it self-sustaining... because you can't socket totems in meta skills. <---- Which is what i wish the tooltip said, since totems aren't minions.

I know you aren't GGG, just think I shouldn't have to know a 10 year lexicon from the prequel to understand that even though totems aren't minions meta skills treat them like they are. (and even though they say they're spells they aren't.)

That's not tool-tipped anywhere in the game.

[still rock]

Placing the totem is not a spell in itself, which is why you do not get cast speed to place it faster. Moreso a technicality that isnt explicitly stated

[still rock]

im only in abt t5 rn, its breezy tbh lol

i plan on anointing 25% skill effect duration and itll be even breezier

[static torrent]

Again, Dark Effigy casts a Spell, but is a Totem. Maybe the tag shouldn't be the first one displayed, and Totem should be there instead, but nonetheless, the Cast on X Meta gems can only trigger Spells, since they need to Cast them. Placing a Totem is not Casting a Spell, even if the Totem then does so.

[north pivot]

do they actually last that long then?

[still rock]

im scared of being a paper towel by t15s but you can offscreen with twister pretty easily

[still rock]

yes, skill effect duration is incredibly noticeable

and proj speed

[distant glade]

It’s spark all over again lol

Spark at home

[still rock]

its a better spark that takes some wind-up time

tbh

[shadow zephyr]

I agree with all of that functionally, I just want clarity in my tooltips. 😄 I had to take a warbringer all the way up to 60+ to discover it wasn't a low intelligence keeping me from achieving my dreams. 😄

Regardless, thank you for the info, it helps me with the understanding.

[static torrent]

Fair enough. If I had access to edit the tooltips I'd add that detail in, but for obvious reasons, I can't.

[still rock]

poe has come a long way, we are trained to second guess tooltips and test beyond the text

poe 2 is relatively amazing at clarity in comparison

[ocean fiber]

Does a beast with multiple auras can spawn in the game ? Like let's say :
Haste Aura + All elem resist aura + Phys dmg aura. Is that possible in one single beast ? I've never saw any with more than one... If yes, is it from high lvl maps ? Specific locations ?

[shadow zephyr]

Yeah but a warbringer with a high enough level/intelligence/gear to socket cast on minion death when you're already stacking armor/evade/Iron Reflexes is a pretty heavy testing investment since you can't re-select an ascendancy.

esp since you have to main str for mace totems 🙂

[still rock]

In any case, it's a good suggestion for the Totem tooltip in-game rather than a bug

It should specify ideally

[static torrent]

I'm not certain about the exact mechanics of Rare enemy mods, I'm afraid. I'd assume there's nothing preventing it from happening, but I don't recall specifically running into one with multiple auras either, so I can't say for sure. Perhaps other players have run into it and could confirm it one way or the other.

[static wagon]

can yall tell me what you think of my build https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/e4fhv0ir

[still rock]

im almost certain particular monster mods cannot exist simultaneously, e.g. cant have shocked and burning ground simultaneously (that one I'm certain of)

so I wouldnt be surprised if only one aura is allowed

[ocean fiber]

Thanks foer answering. Can't find the answer anywhere, but so far I never found one and I can tell you, i've been searching for a long time!

Secondary Q : do you know which beast type is the best to "follow up" and apply aura the most ? I've been taming some slow beast, I could never get in range of it so basicaly useless

exemple : the plants in barrens that stay static in the ground. These are useless

[still rock]

lol do they really not move

i havent tamed one yet

[ocean fiber]

They pop up out of the ground and walk slowly only when there's an enemy to attack, otherwise, they plant in the ground and TP to you when you out range them lol

[shadow zephyr]

I would imagine these things are fairly useful in boss arenas but yeah that sucks, lol.

[still rock]

quadrilla is fast, I can attest to

and alpha primate

i think the prime candidate for support is Gilded Beetle but i dont have one yet so i cant speak for its movement speed

[ocean fiber]

have you tried to tame the quadrilla boss in jungle ? Does he have mods ?

[still rock]

gilded beetle has an inherent aoe dmg buff

[viscid radish]

Boss is unique, can't tame

[shadow zephyr]

In the spires of Deshar there's these beasts that hang down off the walls and then jump around like kangaroos to hit you in the face.

They're pretty beefy, I imagine they make great tanking minions if you can direct them to steal boss aggro, b/c the boss gotta chase the kangaroo all over the screen to hit it.

They're probably not beasts, though. they look like it. Haven't found any rare ones.

[ocean fiber]

I'll try to get one beetle and see

[still rock]

i need to go get one i just am dreading reloading four hundred times to get shocked ground to roll on one

[ocean fiber]

can you tame that giant beetle act2 that drops a jewel ?

[shadow zephyr]

Burnt Orange name: no tame.
Yellow name: tameable.

[still rock]

if its a rare (yellow name) and not a unique (orange name)

[static torrent]

It is Rare iirc, so it should be possible

[ocean fiber]

yeah, the rare patrolling up and down, spawning small beetles and doing red explosions

[static torrent]

Probably has a high Spirit cost though.

[sacred sinew]

I am thinking of trying minion build, but heard it got gutted hard. Saw recent patch for minion builds. Was wondering, how minion builds feel after that patch? Worth trying?

[olive summit]

fuck this atlas man there's no corruption anywhere

[static torrent]

(I don't know how Tame Beast spirit costs work, haven't tried the skill at all)

[ocean fiber]

I'll check that later. Thanks for tips, didnt think about beetles

[still rock]

I think some rares are actually untameable as well, for example the purple chaos dot plant thats always guaranteed to spawn at the special part of Chimeral Wasteland is untameable

[static torrent]

If that's the case, then the Ninth Treasure probably isn't tameable either.

[shadow zephyr]

Wrong channel

[still rock]

Each particular beast has a fixed cost as a percentage of your spirit, for example Quadrillas are 43.2% or something like that

so every quadrilla will be that same % cost

[static torrent]

Good to know. I'm not much of a Minion player, so I rarely ever engage with this stuff xd

[still rock]

i planned on doing companions until i remembered minion ai is awful and beasts do dick for damage

so now im just running one for support

theyre good at that at least

[still rock]

minion AI is the biggest point of contention

its not great

you have to really enjoy minion builds to bear it

[stuck ocean]

Hey all. What counts for different types of persistent minions for the Muster support gem? Do different Skeletal summons count? Different Spectres?

[still rock]

Based on other wording I'm almost certain it basically means that it has a different name

e.g. the Companion keystone that allows you to have +1 companion is worded as "different types" and for Tame Beast, it only disallows you to summon two different beasts of the same name

theres niche scenarios where different spectres can have the same name, though, like for example theres 4 specifically different types of "Vaal Guard" and in that specific case I have no clue what happens

lol

[edgy hamlet]

Hey I was reading huntress can summon a dire wolf. Is that accurate? Or can any class do it?

[still rock]

any class if you have the dex for Tame Beast

i have a monke

[karmic oyster]

only a company called Colossal Biosciences

[edgy hamlet]

@karmic oyster Haha 🤣 I saw that.

@still rock when you tame it. Do you have to tame it multiple times or is like once and then yours ?

[still rock]

You cut a gem called Tame Beast and use it on a rare beast type monster and it gives it a debuff where if it dies with the debuff on it becomes fixed into that particular gem and the gem becomes a pokeball basically

[dry kelp]

Hey guys, im new to Poe2, could someone share a warrior spear build please? Thank you

[still rock]

So the tame beast gem would become "Summon [Insert Beast Name Here]" instead

[edgy hamlet]

Haha ok so my next question is, where the heck is a dire wolf in game? Or it’s all luck at that time then?

[still rock]

Not sure which you're referring to but there's several wolf beast types in act 1

they just have to be rare (Yellow name) for them to be tameable

basically you'd be finding a zone with that monster type in it and reloading until you find a rare version of that specific monster you want

[ornate palm]

How can we improve the frenzy uptime powered by electrocute? I have seen videos where lightning spear was tossed without frenzy charges and then gain charges reliably.

[still rock]

just by increasing electrocute buildup - theres also some chance involved in maintaining a higher number of them without being Deadeye

but if youre reliably electrocuting enough then youll satisfy Combat Frenzy's trigger (ideally on cooldown)

[tulip fog]

would this node

apply to this?

since its technically an effect of incision?

[still rock]

no

% increased effect would only affect the base effect of Incision

which is bleed chance

[compact tulip]

If your whirling slash becomes firey from a fire ground effect, what determines the damage of that ignite?

[still rock]

if you hypothetically hit for 100 damage then you get 50% gain as fire from that effect so you'd deal 100 phys and 50 fire, so the ignite would pull the 50 fire to determine its magnitude

[pallid wigeon]

Hey Lightning Rod passive was changed right? It now works with crits? Previously it said non-crits, but they removed this text. Or is this just a text only change.

[compact tulip]

previously it was "all non crits are lucky" yes

it got nerfed

[junior condor]

Random question: Does the Choir of the Storm unique work with the Necromantic Talisman keystone?
Reading both tooltips, it looks like it should, but I'm not entirely sure. I remember hearing that it was disabled or bugged before.

[north pivot]

@still rock is your twister full lightning? What's the source?

[still rock]

twister is always mostly phys, lightning ground effect from my quadrilla gives it 50% gain as lightning

well you could have twister be all lightning if you used an all lightning damage weapon base

[vast jay]

but that wouldn't get the 50% bonus

[still rock]

some people use wake of destruction boots for lightning ground

[north pivot]

do you know if this can work with Avatar of Fire? 75% conversion. Is it even worth it?

[still rock]

yes it would, there's nothing specifying it has to be physical damage to get the gain damage %

[still rock]

probably not

unless you have an explicit reason to convert to fire, avatar of fire is dmg loss

[north pivot]

ok thanks.

[vast jay]

i feel like sometimes all of a sudden bosses start to take 5x more damage, but i can't really see the pattern as to why

you would think with how often these sandstorms come up, they would keep this horn on hand

[jagged niche]

Do any of the beasts actually do damage or should I just rely on their auras?

[vast jay]

...is there any way to see the auras of a beast trapped in a gem without summoning it?

[spring peak]

hello ppl, im gonna do a lil experiment, gonna track how long the campaign takes, how many rares drop, how much currency drops, etc. whats the current fastest build would you say?

[vast jay]

for what class?

[spring peak]

amazon

[vast jay]

or across all?

i suspect it is strength stacking rake/stomp

[spring peak]

i purposefully waited a few days to play this league, gonna try and put a number to the complaints

[vast jay]

because you just stack strength and get obscene 1shot damage, and you just spam 1 spell, and you dont need to upgrade weapons

[snow arch]

Charge Infusion definitely wont work on Volcanic Eruption support because it's triggered, right?

[vast jay]

the complaints about the campaign are silly.. there are so many overpowered builds

endgame... well.... it's hard to judge, there were big nerfs there, so people really need to "re-enter" the campaign without gear to truly judge it

@sturdy compass i personally prefer using a hybrid whirl+twister with rake/stomp build.... but ive come to see that pure rake/stomp/strength-stack is probably faster

[spring peak]

cant seem to find a rake/stomp/str specific build on mobaanalytics

[vast jay]

that is because you just spec rake/stomp and take all str nodes, i dont think you need a build for that

one sec, ill make one

[still rock]

wdym

charge infusion is a persistent buff, volcanic eruption is a melee attack support

[snow arch]

I think I got some neurons crossed, uh I mean elemental infusion

infusion is infusion

I'm looking at both right now it's not my fault

[spring peak]

ty, im thinking ill keep track of how many whites drops as well, be a psycho since im out sick from work all this week and got nothing to do lol

[still rock]

Uhh I haven't tested it at all because I'm not a huntress but I dont know why it wouldnt work based on the wording

seems to satisfy the condition (consuming a charge)

[vast jay]

lol.. i would not bother tracking whites that drop.. but hey man, you do you

[snow arch]

you don't "use" a triggered skill that's why I assume it won't work but I want to be wrong

I wanted to find a way to make this work on Qstaff but the only projectile attack it has any access to is technically a support gem

wait no

falling thunder

but that pierces infinitely, doesn't work anyways does it

[still rock]

Sorry I'm a bit lost in what youre trying to accomplish

Elemental Infusion charges cant be used with melee attacks at all, even if they have the projectile tag

[snow arch]

so the melee tag invalidates it

on the support

and possibly the fact that it's triggered

[carmine flicker]

white body bases gonna be more important this league

[vast jay]

@sturdy compass here .. this should be a pretty good start - https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/76801bf1-67fc-41e6-becd-41f6b36c9e9b/builds/9b1d7348-ede4-4d59-8226-7cefce1a6e76

@carmine flicker he's talking about counting the number of whites that drop from level 1

[carmine flicker]

oh
wow
that's..

lots of counting I guess

[spring peak]

thanks bb, ill report here in a couple days

[still rock]

All that matters is that the infusions only work on projectiles from non-melee attacks

since it specifically specified non-melee in the description

[carmine flicker]

(I deleted poe2, have nothing to do, so may as well chat there and may be help someone. or not.)

[vast jay]

@sturdy compass when i have a few minutes, ill do a very quick act 1 start and check and see if there are any particular skills/supports you should use.. but i think mostly you will just use rake/stomp strength-stack, disengage (just in case), ghost dance or wind dancer (For some defense) .. and then just hold down the rake button

[carmine flicker]

it really help that str stack give defence(life) by itself

[vast jay]

@sturdy compass in particular, im not sure when it makes sense to path out to dance-with-death and the spear tree or not

@carmine flicker ya, true... im sold on the power of rake-stomp.... i just need to see it from the start with pure str-stack to understand it fully...

[carmine flicker]

rake kitava I played to.. well.. t4 maps.. was more or less hold button to win

no pots needed

just hold RMB till map dead

[vast jay]

anyone know what this trial of chaos "take rewards" thing is?

is that new? or did i just never notice it before?

[carmine flicker]

probs new

was in POE1 where you could opt out at any time

with the rewards you got so far

[vast jay]

ahh.. you can take rewards and quit early, that's intesreritng

especially if you get a god-aweful affix choice rng

[carmine flicker]

well
it was the main feature of ultimatum back then
will you risk futher or take what you can take easily and play safe

[pallid wigeon]

Anyway to get Primal Strike's enhanced final strike to work with Crescendo? Even with shocked ground, the shock effect isn't applied immediately after being removed by primal strike's "first" final strike.

[carmine flicker]

well
they are both true and not
if you play "as intended" you will have really rough time
if you do simple and strong (or broken, depends on perspective) things like rake or whirwild or w/e then you will have easy time

but if you will try to do whole parry/melee/range/repeat routine you will have rough time

[vast jay]

@carmine flicker "if you play as intended you will have a really rough time" -- is this not always the case? 🙂

GGG's trolling starts at level 1 when they give warriors raise shield before boneshatter

[carmine flicker]

it is
but new players didn't know it.. yet

[carmine flicker]

and both are kinda useless, lol

[vast jay]

i think they could eliminate 50% of warrior hate if they just startedf warriors with a 2H

[carmine flicker]

cause first thing you need to do as warrior - buy spear, lol

(and go rake as soon as you can)

[vast jay]

well.. i mean before spear existed

back in 0.1, they could have made warriors lives so much easier if they just started them with a 2H and gave them boneshatter first

[carmine flicker]

before spear existed best thing you could do as warrior - buy staff, lol

[distant glade]

? Boneshatter is crazy good

[vast jay]

boneshatter is crazy good

[carmine flicker]

how will you prime for stun for it at first lvls?
things die before being stunned

[vast jay]

i mean, rake/stomp is so disgusting it will need to be nerfed/fixed.... but before that, boneshatter is good

[distant glade]

Rolling slam

[vast jay]

all i did on my warrior at low leavels was rolling slam into boneshatter

destroyed everything

with a 2H

no shield

[distant glade]

Yeah I had 0 problems priming stun

[vast jay]

if they are not primed for stun, they are dead

[distant glade]

And it clears the whole screen

[carmine flicker]

yeah, shield is bait
until you have nodes for it and turtle charm or w/e

[vast jay]

this is what i mean, GGG literally baits everyone into bad builds.. i think so that they can feel the "reward" of figuring out the fix on their own

but it's kinda dumb to do at level 1

[carmine flicker]

only class I used shield block was.. witch

cause had nothing to do while summons killed

[carmine flicker]

or they really think what they propose is how game "intended" to be played

[kind crest]

Nah best way to clear on warrior is perfect strike trust

[vast jay]

omg i beat the dreaded tornado bird for the first time ever in trial of chaos on this huntress.... .i formerly just .. well.. died..... did they nerf this?

[carmine flicker]

they nerfed it early 0.1

[vast jay]

shield block and parry against white mobs is the most nonsense thing i've ever seen.. there is no way anyone at GGG does this

[carmine flicker]

do not understimate GGG

[vast jay]

ohh nice.. i must have experienced the tornado bird before the nerfs.. because that thing was death

[carmine flicker]

you literally CAN'T parry non-white-mobs anyway

[vast jay]

you cant? i thought you could

just not all attacks

i thought you could even parry some boss attacks

[still rock]

tbf parry seems particularly useful for certain bosses but its definitely not something I'd invest anything into

[distant glade]

What are you even saying lol

[carmine flicker]

I mean, you can't parry most rare mods(like flying balls of death of random kind ) and most boss moves

[vast jay]

i thought you could parry almost any "Attack" (not spell or aoe), just not the glowing-red one4s

[still rock]

e.g. you can parry the arm swipe and dagger stab from Colossus boss

[distant glade]

U can

[still rock]

any strike or projectile

[vast jay]

i figured parry would be really useful against bosses... and that doing it against white mobs was more "training".... but i've never felt forced to learn to parry bosses even

[carmine flicker]

mobs don't have attack/spell distinction tho afaik rigght now, it's not POE1

mobs have "strikes", "projectiles" and "AOEs"

[lime tinsel]

Any specter lists around yet? Looking for a specter that can heal untill i unlock clerics

Possibly one that buffs/debuffs

[vast jay]

ohh.. well then any attack or spell.. but not aoe/effect

[tawdry orbit]

The fact parrying raises your stun threshold is kinda lame imo

[carmine flicker]

most dangerous boss moves are AOE effects you can't really parry

or block

without turtle charm

[still rock]

I know what you mean but it's worded as a accumulating stun buildup, raising stun threshold would be a good thing lol

[lethal epoch]

is ritualist just dog shit? or is it the spear that is dog shit?

[distant glade]

But saying you can’t do it is wrong

[carmine flicker]

well
you can't
cause most of their moves are AOE and you can't parry those

[vast jay]

spear is the most overpowered thing in this game.... ritualist is... well.. situational

[carmine flicker]

spears are good

[tawdry orbit]

You can party more boss attacks than you’d expect

[still rock]

spear amazon might be better than qstaff invoker tbh

[lethal epoch]

what's overpowered about the spear? i'm struggling right now just got to maps with ritualist spear rake build

[carmine flicker]

please test radiant grief/elemental sundering build for me.. since I can't anymore
it should be good, I promise 🙂

[vast jay]

spear invoker is probably better than qstaff invoker

[still rock]

yeah true

spear is just insane

[carmine flicker]

and spear skills are good
spear themself as weapon could have better numbers.. but well
work as is too

[vast jay]

are you using rake/stomp strength stack?

[lethal epoch]

kinda

[vast jay]

what is kinda?

if you are trying to primary rake... you have to go all in on str

[lethal epoch]

100% - 150% of strength as damage isn't that great is it?

[vast jay]

unless you are doing some carefully designed late game bleed proc build

it is, because rake/stomp does 3 "steps" so it's actually 3x that per rake

[carmine flicker]

there is no middle ground with rake/stomp
either you go full str stack and forget dex exist and never raise rake past lvl 3..
or you lose damage, and lots of it

[tawdry orbit]

Anyone know if bleeding concoction scales off dex or strength?

[ornate palm]

Is it possible that a mob is dead before it's electrocuted? So the spear will kill 4 mobs without getting frenzy charges.

[lethal epoch]

what support gems to use for rake? i will try this if i'm even able to find a skill gem level 3..

[still rock]

Yeah if youre not electrocuting it before it dies lol

[vast jay]

you use stomping ground.. and then anything that is +physical or +area dmg

[carmine flicker]

stomping ground, then brutality, then close combat probably

[lethal epoch]

conc effect?

or magnified

[vast jay]

i would NOT run conc effect

[carmine flicker]

conc hurts your AOE

magnified for clear, conc for bosses if you want to hug them tight

[vast jay]

rakestomp already has quite small aoe... so you want to increase your aoe area as much as you can... i agree with @carmine flicker i would go for close combat

[lethal epoch]

will the stomping grounds cause bleeds?

[carmine flicker]

oh, and that support that brek armour
splinters or w/e

[vast jay]

@carmine flicker do you know if the rake bleed is scaled on the stomp damage? or only the rake dmg?

[carmine flicker]

no
you don't need to

[young cobalt]

So I have heralds of ice active but why isn’t it showing up as a active buff on the top left of my screen?

[carmine flicker]

only rake

[vast jay]

ya, i figured as much

i think you could go for herald of ash and get some fire dmg in there

[carmine flicker]

2m base AOE
I managed to get it to like 4
felt actually good

[still rock]

Does mag effect increase the shockwave area

[carmine flicker]

I won't bother honestly
there are better ways to waste spirit

[lethal epoch]

do you have a pob by chance

[carmine flicker]

I was playing warrior

if you want warrior rake pob I can make one ofc

[eternal pilot]

How exactly does the penetrate ascendancy work with 25% accuracy on weapon is converted to phys damage? is it flat phys like if I have 400 accuracy do i get 100-100 damage added to minimum and maximum damage range? or is it % based?

[carmine flicker]

kitava is really good "stomper"

[lethal epoch]

i really don't want to make another char right now as i just got to maps with my ritualist XD

[carmine flicker]

well, ritualist isn't good without GOOD gear

[still rock]

the upsides of ritualist require investment, unlike Amazon since accuracy is basically free candy in poe 2

[carmine flicker]

and kitava is opposite - all you need on items is str, life and fire res
easy to get full gear for like 20 ex and have some left

[lethal epoch]

are there any key items to enable strength stacking? black sun crest?

[carmine flicker]

yeah, there are..

if you count self-made armour of kitavs smith as "item" anyway

[lethal epoch]

i've never built a stat stacking anything so i'm kinda lost

[white viper]

is there a resource somewhere for good supports to use with specific skill gems?

[vast jay]

basically, you just take str attribute nodes ... and attack speed and a few dmg bonus (but not too many)

[pallid wigeon]

Ritual Sacrifice doesn't work most of the time...Animation plays out, but no buff is given. Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't give you its modifiers.

[still rock]

Could run Rake stomp as Titan too

[vast jay]

honestly, you could probably rake stomp on anything

[still rock]

Titan gets 4% inc strength was my point

and just life and small node increase is generally good

[carmine flicker]

IMHO smith better
titan want you to take all the small nodes
and rake stomp really have nothing against all the +5 str travel nodes that aren't boosted by titan

[still rock]

im sure theres plenty of small nodes youd take

[carmine flicker]

as titan you get even mediocre small nodes since they are actually good to you
as smith str stack I went only for best nodes since I really didn't mind traveling all across the tree

each +5 str node is +20-30 base damage to my rake anyway

(actually more with all the increased str I had)

anyway, @lethal epoch , do you want me to make smith rake build or not interested rn?

[still rock]

Random Q if anyone happens to know:

Is knockback from projectile always "away" from the player? Specifically in the case in which a proj chains off terrain and hits a monster in the back, does it get knocked away from the projectile or the player

[carmine flicker]

also you get tons of free res as smith, like TONS, so you can get more str on items easy
like 28-30 str in every item slot

[vast jay]

i think he said he's trying to figure out what to do with his huntress now that he's in maps

and he's playing rake but sort of a halfway build

[carmine flicker]

it's always source of the projectile and source was player

[still rock]

What

[carmine flicker]

*away from source

[lethal epoch]

sure

[carmine flicker]

sorry, misstyped

[vast jay]

@lethal epoch btw, rake/stomp isn't the only option, it's just that if you are going to play rake, it is very strong....... i personally am enjoying a whirl/tornado/rakestomp build that's also very strong..... really the spear is just massively overpowered as long as you setup a build to synergize

[lethal epoch]

ritualist?

[vast jay]

im using amazon

[carmine flicker]

I just think that ritualist is VERY gear dependent to be strong
it's GREAT with GGG rings and amulet
and really sad panda with bad ones

[vast jay]

ritualist is a specialist spec that takes a very particular build idea to really sing.. like bloodmage

[carmine flicker]

so you probably will have better luck with "cheap to gear" char to farm currency for ritualist

[vast jay]

bloodmage in act 2 is quite literally 100x easier to kill bosses if you dont spend any ascendancy points, because sanguimancy does more self-damge to you in a boss fight than the boss does...... you are better off waiting until you have 2nd ascendancy before you spend any ascendancy points

but then lategame bloodmage pays off

[carmine flicker]

and even with 4 points it's barely better than without them

with health costs

[vast jay]

on my bloodmage, jamara killed me 3 times with sanguimancy.. i unspeccted it and i easily killed him with 100% health left and most of my flask charges.. it was absolutely stupid

(well really it was me killing me, not jamara)

[carmine flicker]

meanwhile first 4 points on smith give you "lol you are res capped, oh, and take 25% phys damage as fire, so phys-damage-proof too"