2┃build-planning

[swift aspen]

and not too expensive

[last horizon]

to answer my own question just for the record: it actually has to be a "Vaal Guard" at the cost of 50 spirit, no other mob

[frail sedge]

What would be the support gems for convalescence? Would Ingenuity work?

[worn whale]

so uh
what do i go for here?

[dim fox]

Hey, i can't decide on which build to play, i tried the ED contamination lich, but it's not for me, i liked ice strike and spark last league, any recommendation ?

[foggy edge]

guys how can i get lighting spear to do electrocute so i can generate frenzy charges ? its not doing anything

[worn whale]

plan is to eventually go into EB

[sage tulip]

Im currently trying to come up with am elemental undead army build. Is there currently a way to convert damage in a way to alter elemental damages to make spells have all elemental damages ?

[worn whale]

i think i already go literally every minion damage node

i guess withered effect good?

[safe ibex]

Just started a Ritualist. Looks like building around the new charms could be cool -- does anyone know a way to reliably do elemental damage to yourself? Seems like building around the charms is bad if you just have to count on taking a specific type of elemental damage all the time.

[true nimbus]

How does Ancestral Spirits from Warbringer work? I am summoning totems but no spirit shows up. The totems glow blue since taking the node.

[soft cargo]

Does anyone know if you can block a self damage hit? I know in POE1 you can't and I assume it's the same here, but since you have shields that let you block all hits just wanted to make sure

[lime prairie]

🙏🙏 ty

[safe ibex]

How are you doing damage to yourself?

[frail sedge]

What would be the support gems for convalescence? Would Ingenuity work?

[soft cargo]

Ideally with this

[dim fox]

Hey, i can't decide on which build to play, i tried the ED contamination lich, but it's not for me, i liked ice strike and spark last league, any recommendation ?

[teal frigate]

since the general is kinda heated right now id take this here and ask in a quieter area, could anybody please tell me which kind of buff/debuff this is? 🙂

[safe ibex]

I wonder if you could convert the phys damage from that to elemental to proc charms, not sure how defenses work with self damage though

[soft cargo]

you can with this, although im trying to check if it blocks to proc on block effects rn, just dumb theorycrafting

[glass hinge]

anyone use PoB2 how do I add spectre?

[sage tulip]

Anyone know of a way to make all my element type damage get split 3 ways so its even between fire, ice, and lighthing ?

[carmine flicker]

yes
unique gloves do that

why would you want that tho?

[sage tulip]

this way it doesn't matter what spells I choose they will alwats be doing lightning damage or fire damge or whatever I need to be using.

[safe ibex]

Wait this could actually work -- Scolds to do damage to yourself on cast, catalysis to convert some to elemental and maybe painters gloves to guarantee that the damage will proc a specific charm

[sage tulip]

also this way I don't need to do a specific route to pick up damage increasing nodes any passive node now should boost my damage.

[teal frigate]

works also really well with these two

[sage tulip]

yeah I also plan using those cause aparantly they work with spells so.

[teal frigate]

no they work with attacks, not spells

[carmine flicker]

well
you also can't take damage nodes for one element, only "all elemental" or "spell damage" ones

[vivid ferry]

does anyone know what this means?

[sage tulip]

well that changes my plans a bit I was hoping there was a way where the damage gets split between them. I am trying to come up with a sort of undead elemental lich build

[carmine flicker]

vaal discipline was aura from POE1, and that skill work like it

[teal frigate]

you can play lich with attacks instead of spells, if its viable is another questzion

[carmine flicker]

well
damage is split between 3 elements, all like you asked

[vivid ferry]

I could be following my guide wrong, but hes using convalescence on weapon set 2. Doesnt seem right to weapon swap when you need ES immediately

[fleet blaze]

Can anyone tell me why bonestorm crashes the instance on my blood mage but my buddy using it on his lich doesn't?

I can only hit the boss 10 or so times and poof rollback

[high rivet]

is there a way i can disable the crit on my attacks with a support?

[final dragon]

Guys I am very sad. Why does the Fanatic Greathammer take 636 STR now with Giants Blood?

I mean I know why, they raised the STR required. I just didn't know that, or expect it.

[sage tulip]

hmm but taking lightning nodes doesn't work with the painter's gloves does it ?

[knotty spruce]

Would yall say a magma barrier build is still viable?

[carmine flicker]

Well
Swap is auto oon skill use
Quick w-q or w/e will swap you to 2nd and back in a moment

[high rivet]

could try thorns, idk about magma barrier

[knotty spruce]

im in early maps at lv68 and want to swap from my bone shatter smith

[knotty spruce]

idk thorns seems so.. iffy to me

[high rivet]

im doing a thorns build atm

its amazing

[knotty spruce]

Really?

im so used to thorns suckign in other games

might be biased

[high rivet]

i have a video i just recorded of me fighting jamanra

[vivid ferry]

I didn't realize you can bind to a key, so it works. Thanks

[high rivet]

i could send it to you

se you can judge it

[knotty spruce]

sure pop it over

[high rivet]

ive been super demotivated to play

until i played thorns

so im a bit behind levelling wise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCk_wQRKAE

[carmine flicker]

Thorns are reactive tho
And being reactive means being dead with pinnacles

[knotty spruce]

true

[high rivet]

barbs support helps

[knotty spruce]

but i aint reaching that for long enough

[high rivet]

it makes the playstyle a bit more active

then theres prized pain

and you can easily get 100% crit chance with 300%+ crit damage

instant leech etc

[knotty spruce]

this seems more like a bleed spear vid lol

[high rivet]

lol

believe me when i say its thorns damage

the 2nd phase is the best part

get ready for it

[knotty spruce]

o h

my bad chief

"nice lazers loser check this shit out"

[high rivet]

xD

thorns is disgusting damage against lots of small hits

[knotty spruce]

defo somethin to try

[high rivet]

barbs makes up for less small hits

[knotty spruce]

really want to do a shield mace build tho

[high rivet]

boneshatter works from what i hear

[knotty spruce]

do you require spesific uniques for it?

[high rivet]

for thorns?

[knotty spruce]

been doin that for 68 levels and its getting borin

yea

[high rivet]

only like 1 or 2?

[knotty spruce]

hmm gotcha

[high rivet]

crown of the pale king, and briarpatch

both about 1 ex each

[knotty spruce]

lots of the thorns nodes are next to the ones im plannin on goin with a shield build anyways

[high rivet]

you want briarpatch with 30.5% crit thorns damage

i can share the POB if you need, im still figuring it out

its super experimental

so like, i bet this isnt even optimal

[knotty spruce]

nah im good for now

[high rivet]

another key point

you are really tanky

as you instant life leech against any hit

[knotty spruce]

yup thats my goalk

[carmine flicker]

what ascendancy?

[high rivet]

i go AFK in packs for fun

warbringer for armor break, and block

[knotty spruce]

this should do wonders with smith tho

[carmine flicker]

blocked hits trigger thorns?

[high rivet]

well i think warbringer might be best

yes

since thorns can now do ailments

it was bugged before

so it can break armor, giving you scavenged plating, which gives you more armor, and thorns

bleed

etc.

[carmine flicker]

you just need to consume broken armour against bosses

[pearl sluice]

Does %increased physical damage on weapon work towards this?

[high rivet]

i dont think you need to

i think i was at 10 vs jamanra

[carmine flicker]

to refresh scavengers

you will be at 10 then they will end

[high rivet]

ima take a look at the video

i dont think i was at risk of losing them was i?

you might need to

[worn whale]

no

[high rivet]

you armor break super fast anyways

and thorns gets 100% chance to ignore armor anyways

they have a notable for 50% and two smalls for 25%

[carmine flicker]

yeah, you lose them

and can't get them back

[high rivet]

yeah i bet you could use armor consume without any real cost then

[carmine flicker]

so you need to re-break armour

[high rivet]

oh also

im inflicting impale

with thorns critting

then consuming the impale with the spear hit

[pale niche]

Nope doesn't work either, not 100% sure, but after a couple of days of testing i've never seen a pack implode with a crit as it sometimes happens when they crit themselves on me.

Crit is probably still worth it, because we have so much %thorn damage i doubt the 100% increase damage from the other pair of boots would help that much.

What i'm not sold on at all is Dreadfist, i feel like they're super bait. While the "uptime" would be decent thanks to the crit, you instanstly eat it away with an attack anyway

[pearl sluice]

So whats the idea? Prefix Suffix Accuracy + flat damage of the element you like?

if you wanna play elemental damage

[carmine flicker]

all in all it look cool
now I'm sad I ascended kitava

[high rivet]

whats wrong with dreadfist?

[pearl sluice]

then %damage of elemental attacks...

[spark ingot]

just leap slam

[carmine flicker]

then again rakestomp is really effective too and need no setup, just stack str till the world ends

[knotty spruce]

For skills like resonating shield that have + dmg based on shields armour does % matter at all?

[carmine flicker]

and idk, may be 90 res kitava is tankier than warbringer, cause higher life and res and damage convertion

[spark ingot]

that's the thing, breaking armour is easy... like 2 hits of resonating shield and it's gone. Warbringer can give you "break below 0" but your ignore is ignoring it too... so you are losing 2 points for nothing. so the only usefull thing there is turtle charm and renly's training.

[high rivet]

well how else are you going to break armor with thorns? you arent really scaling weapon damage, and i dont use resonating shield

turtle charm is huge

[pale niche]

It's not worth a slot, mostly that. While with enough crit you could make it proc* enough (as a Thorn build mind you) with the reflect thorn, you tend to just remove them instantly with another attack/proc.
In the end it's just a very rare proc every time an enemy attack you, adding i would say probably 5% not even damage with a Rapid Lance spam

[high rivet]

well my thought is that its like what, 30% more physical damage though right?

the amount of consumes doesnt matter

are you saying the impale isnt going off enough?

you can easily get 100% crit on thorns

[pale niche]

Yes but actually no. In the end the majority of your damage comes from Rapid Assault proccing all 4 Barbs in 1 attack, and that Impale proc only works for 1 of those hit

So instead of it being 400% it's 430%

and you're sacrifcing a glove slot with much better stats for them

[high rivet]

does impale only trigger once for all 4 hits?

dang

[pale niche]

Yeap.

[high rivet]

that seems really weird

[pale niche]

I mean, not really

It's the same reason why Rapid Assault procs 4 Barbs procs in 1 skill use

The real big bug imho is Barbs not proccing Splinter (15% armor break)

since it's phys damage thorns

[carmine flicker]

why?

[high rivet]

well id assume since the thorns is a separate hit

they basically state that for that reason i assume

[pale niche]

I mean yeah in the end it's that, but it does piss me off a bit 😦

[high rivet]

hmmmm

well then what gloves you do use instead

im also considering, maybe theres a better strike skill then?

or...

[pale niche]

Nah

[high rivet]

do you summon minions of some sort lol

[pale niche]

Rapid Assault is the best

no comparison

Tbh i'm using Smith+Resonating Shield

it's decent enough for clear

Quill Burst*of Resonating and just walk around with 20%+ life regen

For Gloves honestly just some big life/Crit bonus/AS/Melee Skill Level

[spark ingot]

wait... every enemy hit by resonating is bursting quill???

[pale niche]

ha, i wish. Just one randomly

[spark ingot]

At least something.

it's for clear and break anyway so not that bad.

[pale niche]

Tbh i feel like Thorn is just not a viable build, unless they make Barbs/Quill Thorn scale with other supports*

At least Quill Thorn imho

[carmine flicker]

bursting quill?

[spark ingot]

is is viable, but not for pinnacle some bosses like to die for you, very very fast 😄

[high rivet]

ok let me spitball for a second here, what about atziris, lot of crit hit chance, allowing some more freedom, leech is instant?

[pale niche]

(and mostly i need some way to god damn do Merc lab, since i'm only dropping sanctums and i can't enter there as thorn è_è)

[high rivet]

atziris acuity

[pale niche]

For non Kitava smiths, probably. As Kitava i'm running with 20% regen

[spark ingot]

i'm thinking about titan, for his 50% passives node... it's for thorns a lot of dmg.

[high rivet]

the only issues i have with kitavas

is normal chestipiece

[carmine flicker]

they don't?
they are attack after all
at least tag is there

[pale niche]

Nah, you have more than enough % damage

[high rivet]

your chestpiece gives a lot of thorns

[pale niche]

Nope, just flat damage at the end

Of that i'm 10000% sure

Chestpiece is bait

[carmine flicker]

shit

[high rivet]

ehhh im not too sure

titan is interesting

[pale niche]

i mean, 90% of your damage is from Scavanged Plates

[high rivet]

but warbringers defense

is amazing

[pale niche]

The rest is just a bit more shit

[carmine flicker]

you mean kitava nodes?

[high rivet]

i wouldnt say 90%, but its a good chunk

[spark ingot]

nearly 70% of %thorn dmg and %phys dmg are small nodes.

[pale niche]

No, generally speaking, losing 160 from chest is not that big of a deal when you got 1k base anyway from Scavenged and th rest

[high rivet]

id say one of the strongest nodes for thorns if you're talking titan, is not just the inc thorns, but also thorns crit damage bonus

[pale niche]

Scavanger Plating alone is around 750 median thorn

[high rivet]

you get another 30% crit damage

from just the 2 alone

[pale niche]

Again, not bad but not needed imho

Honestly, i feel like Witchhunter is the best

Just because it gives you AoE clear

[high rivet]

yeah i need to look at the other ascendancies

[pale niche]

and single target you can just slowly slap a boss to death

[carmine flicker]

oh, you mean chest thorns node

[high rivet]

quick question

whats crushing blows?

i forget

[pale niche]

No i meant the suffix

The Chest 3% thorn node is the biggest bait in existance

never take that garbage.

with 2k armor is like 70 thorn, fuck that

[high rivet]

yeah, 70 thorn is nothing

even at like, 10% of your armor idk if id take it

[pale niche]

and 2k armor is and i mean it a PERFECT armor chest

[high rivet]

so if you did do titan

[carmine flicker]

(meanwhile white ones kitava use have like 800-1000 armour.. yeah)

[high rivet]

i think you do, more max life, inc passives, and more armour

nothing else really helps imo

[pale niche]

That's why i said, 750 from Scavanged, the rest is just a bit more

[high rivet]

well you can get around 660 from belt/chest/shield in total

[pale niche]

Oh the new nodes that count thorn dealing damage to enemies as if they have no armor

is another garbage piece of garbage

that they could remove

[pale niche]

nope, it's 160 the median on a perfect roll

[high rivet]

oh is 750 the median from scavenged?

[pale niche]

So it's a 480 max vs a 750 from scavenger

[high rivet]

dang

[pale niche]

yeaaaap.

[ancient rose]

is there any build thats actually viable as melee as a dual wield? I feel like nothing is. But could be wrong...

[high rivet]

and is that 750 with physical mastery?

[pale niche]

that's why i said losing 160 from chest as a Kitava is fine

[high rivet]

or just level 20

[pale niche]

nope wihtout

just level 20

[high rivet]

wait

new idea then

maybe not

i was thinking gemling

for +2 to the level

[pale niche]

it's gooone baby

as i said, Witchhunter for clear is probably still the best

[high rivet]

wdym its gone?

[pale niche]

at least the clear is fixed

Didn't they remove the +2

for random garbage

[high rivet]

did they remove bolstering implants?

no that was the new node

unless im missing something

[pale niche]

Oh no they just split it

[high rivet]

it was +1 to all skills before i think

[pale niche]

eh

let's see

[high rivet]

now its +2 to a specific type

[pale niche]

60-90 at 20, 64-96 at 21 73-110 at 23

915 vs 750

i mean, a roll more eh

Witchhunter still better

[carmine flicker]

idk
kitava still best imo
90 res easy, all-the-regen, 15% increased life and 20% increased str(=life)

[high rivet]

we cant change ascendancies still right?

how are you armour breaking on the other classes?

[pale niche]

Resonating Shield

[carmine flicker]

gemling get 90 res too tho
but harder to cap them

[pale niche]

i'm using it as Kitava

[high rivet]

oh ew

[pale niche]

two slaps and everything goes to 0 armor

[high rivet]

i like the ease of warbringer atm

[pale niche]

(with 0 Armor break passives)

Plaguefingers

and stacking poison?

bleh.

[high rivet]

wait what

thats interesting

[pale niche]

eh we're too far

[carmine flicker]

I just want better clear for my rakestomp, tbh

may be just crown, few thorn nodes and scavenger would be enough?

[pale niche]

0% chance

it doesn't do enough damage for overkill

[carmine flicker]

why do I need overkill?

[sage tulip]

I just bought an item from someone and the name is green, what does that mean ?

[hollow wraith]

Can someone help me quick? I’m a lvl 20 on act 2 trying to use my lvl 5 uncut spirit gem to unlock hearld of thunder. It’s saying “0 spirit required current spirit 30” but my character says I have 0 spirit and I’ve tried unequipping all skill gems and armor

[thin crypt]

real quick is amazon worth starting? my freind made a mistake and went ritualist but is now debating rerolling to amazon going either bleed or thunder any thoughts?

[dusky wadi]

does scattershot do anything for vine arrow?

[shadow zephyr]

So looking at this socketed in a mana tempest spark lich.

Take Mind over Matter and Zealot's Oath + ascendancy that locks your life as long as you have energy shield. negative resists + 0 armor/evade/block, soak up all the damage and poop lightning everywhere.

Crazy or possible?

[lilac cliff]

Hmm... played Invoker Monk to end game on release, what should I play in Dawn that's fun and different from that?

[sage tulip]

Im loving these painter's gloves

[high rivet]

thorns 🙂

[azure wyvern]

How much evasion should you have for taking Acrobatics?

[high rivet]

you think i kid

im actually serious

its awesome so far

[finite glade]

Im working on an ice monk build but I have a quarterstaff that has ice and fire damage and I'm wondering if the fire damage will just become a problem when trying to freeze things

[high rivet]

no

[lilac cliff]

Is it fun? Aren't you just... walking around chillin get ting bopped while they die

[high rivet]

yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCk_wQRKAE

this is me fighting cruel jamanra

[sage tulip]

wait you can use heralds as a caster the fire one is triggered by overkill damage causing explosions and can't you change the fire damage, also doesn't the lightning herald trigger off if the enemy died while shocked ?

[high rivet]

the 2nd phase is the best

barbs support would feel better if it worked for more than 4 hits

barbs is what really makes it feel a bit more involved

its not the flashiest or anything

but its jank and i love it

can get 100% thorns crit easy

[lilac cliff]

Jank is rad, but it doesn't look active enough for me. Glad it's working for you! Wrecked Jam

[high rivet]

i mean the damage is really good, since damage got nerfed everywhere

but yeah

[trim moss]

does anyone know if "easy going" notable (20% reduced companion reservation) is bugged? it''s not changing my spirit reservation

[valid briar]

is there any items with elemental damage taken as fire damage? (trying to take only fire damage and intend to go negative on cold and lightning)

[frail sedge]

Any support gems working with convalescence?

[reef valley]

Hey fellow Exiles, is there any known mechanics nerd around that has looked into "Stomping Ground" and how to scale it?

[swift estuary]

I put Persistence so it can last longer.

[frail sedge]

I was thinking of Ingenuity but the written cd seems to be the same?

[wintry whale]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/9408f566-2e55-444c-9339-0fa30d040598/builds/868792fd-d97c-4e95-a548-126d40ea06e8

what do u think

[swift estuary]

Written does not change. You need to open the detailed menu and look at cooldown.

[swift estuary]

I did that one, too. The CD went down to about 22 seconds.

[frail sedge]

Im not seeing even in detailed menu

And my spirit doesnt decrease

Should be a 10% increase

In spirit

No?

[nimble hound]

Any point in contuining this game with everyone duping end game and i'm still only level 24?

i dont do SSF, especially not with these drop rates

[wintry whale]

they got banned

and its not "everyone"

[nimble hound]

oh good

[frail sedge]

Nvm saw it

[wintry whale]

dupes happen in every game its just how long they take to take action

[nimble hound]

seems to be more of a pain point in this patch because of how crap drop rates are

[bronze sand]

They are fine bro

Just come Maos

Maps

[wintry whale]

do they even have testers

rare monsters minions having 400% life

and nobody noticed

[bronze sand]

Are you trolling

[wintry whale]

not 1

[bronze sand]

This is EA

We’re the tester

[nimble hound]

yeah problem is i dont know if i will make it that far. i dont have fun atm

my gear is like 20 lvls old

no drops for me at least

[wintry whale]

so they didnt make enough money from 500k players to get atleast a few testers before they launch patches?

[bronze sand]

I can give few stuff if I got anything what weapons you use

[wintry whale]

and if ur going to use the ea excuse them dont releae such a good damn game egtting people excited at launch and fucking up to claim its early access

it skyrocketed in charts as a new released early access

[reef valley]

Anybody knows if an ailment caused by "stomping ground" gets effected by other support gems that affect ailments like for example "swift affliction" or "Deadly Poison"?

[nimble hound]

im just curious why stuff can't just drop while i do the campaign

instead of having tgo use trade

Also how do i move character to top of select

[opaque bluff]

Eternal youth + CI doesnt work by default cos flasks end because your full on life right? But the pathfinder flask node enables it?

[carmine flicker]

yeah, it's fun, no?

[carmine flicker]

what supports do you use with the scavenger btw?

[winter vine]

Hey guys to play archmage since there isnt any added damage effectiveness on spells for poe2 the most important thing is hit/s to scale with archmage ?

[carmine flicker]

archmage is % more damage basically
(well, it's % added as, but same thing in this context)

also - it's dead

[outer jackal]

Anybody trying a warrior primal strike build? Not sure if it works or not but it was my first thought this league and now I am looking for the best way to spread shock to enemies quickly before using primal strike

[forest spoke]

Does anyone know if gems like Elemental Conflux, Trinity and Attrition work with totems?

[carmine flicker]

isn't ignite easier?

oh, wrong skill

sorry

[outer jackal]

Smith will def have better luck with ignite but primal needs shocked enemies. I plan to go smith and try to do an ignite/shock thing with both heralds

[carmine flicker]

confused it with elemental sundering

[outer jackal]

Thought about working my way to armor/evasion and building a warrior projectile build but im wondering if I can make this work with the new thundering leap attack and then primal strike after

[copper portal]

If i take Avatar of Fire on Warrior, and i put Fire Infusion and Ignition on my Mace auto attack, does it mean i hit for 100% of fire damage and i always ignite on hit?

[dusky wadi]

did they get rid of firewall?

[snow arch]

you're pretty unlikely to get 100% ignite chance from mace bonk

at least the way I understand ignite

[static plinth]

Eternal Youth causes flasks to never stop

Or maybe they stop at full ES

But definitely not life

[opaque bluff]

ah so you dont need the node to combine them, but if they stop at full ES, its pretty risky anyway...

[carmine flicker]

don't bother with armor+eva

[outer jackal]

Is straight armor any good?

[carmine flicker]

no

[outer jackal]

Always heard armor was the worst lol

[carmine flicker]

that's why don't bother with armor/eva

don't bother with first part

if you have dex for it pure eva will protect better

[tribal snow]

Is it viable to make an energy shield or evasion build with the warrior class?

[frail sedge]

Anyone know if Wither Away stacks with Withering Presence ? or is it pointless to have the aura once you have the passive?

[nova ledge]

someone here is knowing what volatility is doing ?

[carmine flicker]

depends
but nothing stopping you from go to ES at least

for eva is bit father in tree, but definetely possible

[still rock]

wdym what its doing

[winter vine]

archmage will be never deead

[still rock]

its a stacking debuff on yourself that explodes and self-damages but then gives you gain % as chaos

afaik

i havent messed w it yet

[nova ledge]

ahh thank you thats what i want to know

[carmine flicker]

well
it is
or, well, spells got huge base damage nerf, so archmage is sad panda

[tribal snow]

hmm do you think is possible to reach Giant's Blood and still go to the evasion part?

[carmine flicker]

(and archmage itself was nerfed a lot too)

[still rock]

archmage can very well be dead, its just a question of whether or not the dmg is worth the mana investment and thats up to each player but when other options give comparable damage at less investment then theres little or no reason to do it outside of novelty

mana stacking has come in and out of being "meta" in poe1 several times

[worthy inlet]

is witch contagion + essence drain the easiest noob build right now to get through the campaign?

[tribal snow]

probably

[frail sedge]

Yep

Anyone knows if Wither Away stacks with Withering Presence ? or is it pointless to have the aura once you have the passive?

[carmine flicker]

it's not problem to reach it
more - will you have enough str to use it

also if you go for eva why would you wear maces?

[pearl sluice]

is there a way to get energy shield based on evasion?

[carmine flicker]

you can as well go spears if you go that part of tree, easier to get damage for those there

[tribal snow]

I'm interested in smith of kitava

[static plinth]

Subterfuge Mask notable

[carmine flicker]

and how is that mace related?

[pearl sluice]

ty

[static plinth]

wait thats the other way around

[pearl sluice]

oh lol

is there another way?

[still rock]

spectral ward technically

[static plinth]

Spectral Ward notable

[tribal snow]

uh which ones are the dex martial weapons again

[still rock]

but youd probably be es/eva at that point anyways

[carmine flicker]

there are spears and staves for dex

[tribal snow]

staves require int too?

[still rock]

there isnt anything like iron reflexes for ES/EVA if that is what youre asking

[static plinth]

Bow is the only pure DEX martial weapon

Spears are 25/75 STR/DEX and Quarterstaves are 50/50 DEX/INT

[carmine flicker]

also you must have in mind that none of the Smith offencive nodes really work
it's pure defensive ascendancy

[pearl sluice]

can you annoint it?

[static plinth]

Yeah, its a bit pricy though

[pearl sluice]

rip

[still rock]

you can anoint any notable if you got the dough

[static plinth]

Actually wait no its not that bad

Doesnt take any Isolations at least

[pearl sluice]

what do I need for it?

[carmine flicker]

they do, but not much
mostly dex

[static plinth]

Envy Fear Suffering

[tribal snow]

hmm i'm thinking based on this to make a spear with high res and evasion

[frail sedge]

Anyone knows if Wither Away stacks with Withering Presence ? or is it pointless to have the aura once you have the passive?

[carmine flicker]

@high rivet I have an idea for you
stupid one

[tribal snow]

oh snaps

you can use shields with spear

damn i'm gonna make a spartan

[carmine flicker]

best "spartan" for kitava IMO is either str stack rage stomper or radian grief elemental sundering

[tribal snow]

Thanks for the info Twice

[carmine flicker]

but many other things could work
whirwild combos or w/e

definetly lvl as rake stomper

easier that way

[tribal snow]

by stomper you mean slams?

[carmine flicker]

nah

rake skill

with stomping ground support

[tribal snow]

I gotta search this rake skill i have see it a lot in chat

[carmine flicker]

it creat AOE around you based on your str when you move with a supported skill
and rake always try to move you, even in one place, triggering it

so you don't need to upgrade weapon till late acts cause for a long time you will be carried by stomping damage

[tribal snow]

dang

[carmine flicker]

it DOES fall of tho at like end act3 unless you really invest in str stack and build a muscle machine with tons of str

[uneven torrent]

I am interested in rake and/or whirldwind/twisters..
But I suck at figuring out builds .. lol

[carmine flicker]

well
build for radiant sundering is really easy
for rake too

for rake it's "stack all the STR you can and then some and grab attack damage nodes on the way"(not melee attack, since stomping isn't melee)

for sundering it's just.. normal spear build?
except really good one button full screen removal

[uneven torrent]

I went huntress, but I saw the Smith of Kitava acendency and it looks really col.

*cool

[worn whale]

i have 10 points for my spectre build
and absolutely no clue where to go

i feel like i already picked every single node that would increase my dps?

[carmine flicker]

be vary that NONE of it's offensive nodes really work

[uneven torrent]

Smith or huntress ? lol

[carmine flicker]

temper weapon literally do no damage(LITERALLY zero. bug)
fire spell on hit would be good.. if you had int.. or mana.. or spell nodes.. or..
animated weapon does nothing and just look cool mostly (it does attack, but damage is ignorable)

[uneven torrent]

IMO, I saw the ascendancy for Smith of Kitava, and i thought "Whenever Righteous Fire drops, this is the preferred ascendancy" ... hehe

[robust echo]

how do you fix frenzy charge regen for huntress

later on

they said they will add cul the weak for early game regen but i dont see it

[carmine flicker]

patch isn't live yet

also cull the weak is so bait
you need to bring mob to cull range before it and, somehow, not kill it in the process

[robust echo]

lighning spear looks bonkers ngl, only if i can consistenyl regen charges this skill has potential

tbh

[carmine flicker]

like reduce mob to 10% life, while leaving it alive

[robust echo]

its like in monk, for early charges

nah its not like that

cull is like 40% for white mobs

30% for magic etf

i wonder how do you generate frenzy charges at mid game?

[carmine flicker]

oh, was changed from poe1 then

good

[robust echo]

ye

same for stun

[carmine flicker]

stuns I know

hate damn stuns

they hurt more than help

knock back enemies and mess positions

(sometimes knock bosses from arena and bug them, happened to me)

[frail sedge]

Is there any way to increase chance to inflict poison with spells other than the support gem?

[pale niche]

For Thorns i just had a gigantic realization

Enveloping Presence is probably the best 3 nodes you could get

[sly talon]

Huntress with herald of ice and lightning viable?

[carmine flicker]

why?

[pale niche]

10% buff effect=10% more thorns from Scavenging

80 more flat thorns

[carmine flicker]

scavenging isn't aura

[pale niche]

not much but there isn't much you could take

.... Jesus

is that only for scepters buffs?

[carmine flicker]

ye

and you can go lightning/spell nodes
go for 100% thorns crit
go choir of the storm

[pale niche]

ah Banners and some random shit

[carmine flicker]

watch the world incinerated by random lightnings

Don't even need much thorns for that
1 damage thorn would do as long as it crits

[pearl sluice]

how do I look up what I need for annoints?

is there a site?

[static plinth]

Hold Alt on the nodes in-game

[pearl sluice]

ty

hmm that is not working

[marble copper]

Would a gemling legio with lighting spear and the dance of death keystone can work?

[static plinth]

Try shift?

[pearl sluice]

nope but found a site

https://exiletools.com/

[dawn spire]

Banners and blasphemy curses are also auras

[pallid wigeon]

Ritualist really needs a buff. Extra ring and 25%, 4 ascendency points, are worst than Amazon's crit ascendency node.

[dawn spire]

@pearl sluice @static plinth it doesn't work ingame until you finish the campaign or maybe use a delirium emotion for the first time

[pearl sluice]

I am in maps though

[dawn spire]

Are you trying to check a node in a starting area?

They removed annoints for those

[pearl sluice]

no but its ok, I got it working from the site ty

[dawn spire]

That's odd. Maybe you need to use/obtain an emotion before they show up

[polar zealot]

do multiple projectiles on crossbow skills count as one bleed stack

as they shotgun

[static plinth]

No

Each projectile is it's own stack

and currently there's no way to stack bleeds

[polar zealot]

yes i thought they would hit at the same time and count as one stack

but yeah that makes sense

[static plinth]

That does make me think though, anyone have opinions on Crimson Assault?

Base Bleed duration is 4s right, so 75% less bleed duration for instant aggravation

[polar zealot]

i feel like you might aswell use haemo crystals at that point

tbf i still dont know if haemocrystals consider aggravatioon in its damage

[still rock]

im playing with it and one point in incision % on attack just as slightly additional single target, not sure if its worth but its only a two point investment for a little xtra bleed dmg

[vast jay]

anyone else getting DDos level lag on the game, but nothing else (im seeing 12k ms!)

[still rock]

must be the server youre on

texas is fine

[hazy veldt]

Why are my Galvanic shards not shocking?

or building energy for cast on shokc?

[still rock]

not doing enough damage perhaps

shock chance is contingent on damage

[bold oxide]

did you socket a support that disables shock/ailments?

[dry kelp]

hey guys anyone doing a warrior or mercenary build with spears? could you share maxroll?

[vast jay]

anyone else tired of the stomping ground sound effect? is there some MTX to change it?

[dusky wadi]

for some reason i cant lvl up tier 1 skills with a lvl 10 skill gem anymore, why is that?

[sturdy compass]

Whats is the best/fastest build rn

[pallid cargo]

guys, i'm playing lightning spear but i'm only using storm lane, lightning spear and sniper marks as active skills and i have 2 more open slots.. what would you guys suggest me to play maybe to improve my single target a bit?

[halcyon vessel]

I set out to make a Messmer the Impaler build. It's been fun so far. I've been struggling to survive though. I think I just need more evasion. Need a Queen of the forest or something.

[dusky wadi]

how did you zoom that much?

[halcyon vessel]

Companion snake is obligatory.

[halcyon vessel]

With the scrollwheel?

[crystal drift]

has anyone put together a bleed ritualist yet?

[halcyon vessel]

That's what I'm doing with my build.

[vast jay]

i personally find whirling slash + tornado + rake/stomp + herald of blood to be insanely fast at clearling whole screens

[crystal drift]

im following woolies bleed amazon guide cause i cant find 1 for ritualist but hes grabbing alot of crit i wont need

[halcyon vessel]

I saw that one. I'm following it somewhat as well, but I veered off because ritualist, so no crit.

[crystal drift]

i figure my best bet is following his tree till i finish the spear node and grab phys and stuff along the way by then ill be closer to act 3 and im hoping i find a guide by then , its still early im not even past act1 yet but i like a guide to follow

[halcyon vessel]

This is my tree right now

[dry kelp]

guys anyone doing a warrior spear build?

[vast jay]

that woolies video looks so slow early.... i dont get why anyone would bother with bleed before level 40?

[vast jay]

there are some... someone was doing rake+stomp with strength stacking

[halcyon vessel]

Oh, I just noticed I have 3 points wasted, one sec

[dry kelp]

oh cool do you have a video or build guide?

[crystal drift]

itll be rough but im playing slow anyway so i dont mind , i might not even reach maps for a couple weeks with the time im putting in

[vast jay]

no... but you just get rake as soon as you can, and then put "stomping ground" support on it... take early strength attribute nodes and path to every large + strength bonus

[crystal drift]

awesome thanks ill save this as a little planner im only lvl 11 so by the time im as far as you there will prolly be a guide done with some1 that knows the math 😄

[dry kelp]

thank you

[crystal drift]

are you using parry constantly?

[vast jay]

ya, the videos i see of the low level rake bleed looks so bad.... with my build i put act 2 jamara into phase 2 before even having a wind-phase

whever you do, if you are using rake, put "stomping ground" on it.. it does 10x more damage than rake or bleed

[dusky wadi]

apparently with a dex int poison ranger you can mix flame wall and gas arrow for self detonating bombs lol

[halcyon vessel]

Yep!

[vast jay]

never using parry, running regular shield not buckler

nothing lives long enough to hit me

[crystal drift]

yeah im trying to get mroe strength for the stomping ground dmg

[vast jay]

waiting for something to hit my parry would be a huge waste of time ... tornados clear the NEXT screen

[halcyon vessel]

Except bosses

[crystal drift]

im wonder if i would be better off following ele spear huntress build

[vast jay]

just keep in mind that using rake+stomp is not a bleed build, your dmg is coming from stomping ground not bleed

[crystal drift]

but not sure how the other huntress builds are doing early on in act 1

[halcyon vessel]

I did Lightning in act 1

[vast jay]

the best build in act 1 is whirling slash+ tornado (persistance + projectile speed) + quarterstaff frozen locus.. it evaporates everything.... then get ghost-dance for defense.. then rake+stomp (though i didn't use it much until herald of blood) then herald of blood

[halcyon vessel]

Then switched to bleed later

[halcyon vessel]

I fixed it, I noticed my refund messed up and didn't remove some points early on in the tree

[crystal drift]

ty

[crystal drift]

was there a creator guide for that?

i hated whirling slash and tornado , trying to use it i just got swarmed unless im constantly dodging or parrying

thats why im survining now is raking around the screen and rolling everywhere

[vast jay]

na, i just made it up.. i watched some creators, but what they are doing looks so incredibly slow... I can make a planner if you need one

[halcyon vessel]

Parry is really nice with this to parry projectiles.

[crystal drift]

ye i saw that

[halcyon vessel]

And if you put Retort on Parry itself, you can make frenzy charges just from holding the Parry button

Since it hits people at range

It's pretty funny

[crystal drift]

id be up for that , im dying alot more than usual i was just looking at raxx's https://youtu.be/dpm4HSlg4ic

[static plinth]

wait what thats cool

[vast jay]

ya, that raxx build is similar to what im using..... you can't get frostbolt super early, so I grabbed the Monk/Quarterstaff FrozenLocus for a source of frozenground... i play to get frostbolt at some point.. though evberything is evaporating anyway

[halcyon vessel]

Just watch your stun gauge. I'm wondering if having the extra charm slot from ritualist would be fun to run 2 anti-stun charms to alternate

[charred atlas]

if im having trouble surviving as witch would more shield help?

[static plinth]

You could just grab the node that consumes mana or the charm slot on tree

[halcyon vessel]

That would require all 8 points to get to

[crystal drift]

interesting , i usualy go with w/e has less buttons 😄

[vast jay]

@crystal drift one key thing you'll want to learn using this build early is that you can just keep spamming whirling slash as a movement ability to keep up 3 stacks ahead of time

[static plinth]

Are there any uniques or supports that can pause the poison or bleed timer?

[halcyon vessel]

Right now, life regen enemies with energy shield are the bane of my existance

[vast jay]

and you can always just throw tornados offscreen

[halcyon vessel]

So I'm thinking I go back to using Blood Boils

[vast jay]

@crystal drift i think it's worth putting rake+stomp on a button, because stomp scales with strength and attack speed, NOT your weapon dmg, so if you have a low weapon, stomp still rips stuff

[crystal drift]

ye rax litteraly just explained that

[vast jay]

ahh nice, i've not watched the whole video..

[static plinth]

Is Spearfield your main damage skill?

[crystal drift]

think ill swap over to his shit and follow his maxroll guide and his video cause its easy to understand

ill just have to suffer for a bit till i get all the gems

[halcyon vessel]

I use spearfield as I retreat to get enemies chasing me, parry a few times for frenzy charges, then unload some explosive spears. Repeat. For single-target, I use Blood hound + Rake spam and then Blood Hunt when the enemy gets heavy stunned. If I get a few parries off on a boss or rare or something, I'll unload explosive spears as I get them.

I used Spear of Solaris for the longest time because I love the skill. And heavy stunning is how you charge it, but it just didn't do enough damage to be worth it.

So I switched to a companion that has Physical Damage Aura

I have the most trouble with energy shield enemies since bleed won't start ticking until the energy shield is gone, which is weird since I thought bleed ignores energy shield.

I grabbed a Blackflame ring to turn my ignites into Chaos to try and fix that. Still using Saitha's Spear which aggravates all ignites too, which seems to be enough for now.

[still rock]

You cant inflict bleed on energy shield

[static plinth]

Does a stun charm stop you from being knocked off the Rhoa

[halcyon vessel]

I've never done a bleed build before, but I found that out for sure!

[still rock]

It's handy on the other end - defensively for players with ES

but yeah, now that people are actually playing bleed theyll notice it lol

[halcyon vessel]

It's funny because my last build was a Chronomancer with Freeze + Chaos DoT, so I had no trouble getting through energy shields

[still rock]

chaos dot even better at that in poe1 😄

just completely bypasses ES

[halcyon vessel]

Yeah for sure

[still rock]

the bleed change is odd to me, i dont prefer it

being bleed immune just for being ES based is wild

[sage tulip]

is there anyway to make heralds work with a caster build ?

[still rock]

no they are specifically for attacks

[sage tulip]

like any skills or cast on something to make them work

ahh damn ok

[still rock]

the effects they proc themselves are also attacks

so not much point in it

if you arent an attack build

[crystal drift]

@vast jay i switched over and have only 3 skills with 2 total supports and already feels better , its slow as hell but imma follow rax and grab that dance node for skill speed and ditch the shield

[sage tulip]

was thinking since I am doing a elemental caster build using all 3 element damage types since I am using the painter's gloves that getting the node for damage boost of 50% would be great but no real point it the heralds don't proc

[vast jay]

@crystal drift im trying out his build exactly.. and its lower damage that what I was doing.... I run herald of blood instead of combat frenzy, put chance to bleed on tornado, and use a combo of whirlwhirl-tornado-rakestomp

and things die WAY faster

[halcyon vessel]

That's why I have fire damage and ignite converted to chaos as backup for energy shield people. I just parry them, and then blast them with explosive spears

[vast jay]

and for really simple stuff you can just rake/rake/rake and not bother with all the other junk

[halcyon vessel]

I do enough damage to clear. Right now my biggest problem is I need more evasion. Getting hit too much

[still rock]

spear throw kinda goated now

even just spear throw, salvo, volt -> barrage w frenzies

[crystal drift]

is it worth switch frenzy for herald even if i dont plan to use rake?

these 3 skills is already too many buttons with this slow speed

[vast jay]

the thing about rake, is that alot of times you can ONLY use rake, so then you are just using one button

i just think skills like herald of blood or herald of ice are too strong for aoe not to use one of them.... because it just deletes entire screens in chain reaction

[still rock]

yeah lightning twister with herald of thunder is working for me

[crystal drift]

ill check out herald of ice blood and frenzy see which i like

[charred gate]

is there a way to make skeletal clerics move?

[agile mortar]

As huntress I can't seem to find a tamable beast that gives significant advantage. Instead it spreads the enemy out and my AoE can't do its job. What's ur experience?

[still rock]

you can command your minions to move to a certain location with the grave key (`)

or change the binding if you have a 60% keyboard like me lol

[vast jay]

@crystal drift the reason I prefer my build, is that you can push fewer buttons when you dont need to and still get the herald of blood explode effects... becasuse I run bleed support in my twister.. it WILL bleed enemies even without frostbolt, and rake will bleed enemies, so things are always exploding even if I don't bother with the frost

[still rock]

their dmg blows so you want the monster mods they provide as support

depends on what youre doing, but invuln aura is universally good, and so is phys dmg aura in most cases

[agile mortar]

yeah, I agree. I found one invul aura, but it's so rare to activate felt meh

[still rock]

if youre doing twister then trail of x(fire,ice,lightning) is good to give you free ground effect

[agile mortar]

doing rake/spike bleed

[still rock]

thats the main usage rn but thats specifically for twisters

not sure if its worth the spirit for non twister

[lunar trail]

Has anyone tried out Primal Strikes on Amazon and is it decent? Seems like a pretty dope skill, but have seen legit nothing about it or anyone using it

[agile mortar]

shame so many skills are underwhelming despite looking and feeling good to play

[still rock]

some skills eprform better with little investment

so maybe some are better with certain builds later

[vast jay]

what level do you think things are underwhelming?

my biggest complaint is that it feels like i started deleting 2 screens at level 7

[winged orchid]

So for sparknado huntress what instillment are we thinking is bis?

[charred gate]

oh, thanks. I just wish i could toggle them to follow me, having to command makes me not want to use them

[agile mortar]

haha. well I played parry + lance/explosive spear in the beginning. It was a slow process

[vast jay]

parry is a bait.. ignore it.... explosive spear is not necessary..... whirling slash + tornado with autos... adding rake+stomp when you can

and then frostbolt for chilled ground.. and herald of blood (with bleed support on twister) to make everything boom

[agile mortar]

yeah i moved onto to rake stomp, then rake/bloodhunt with spearfield

not a fan of the blinding tornado filled screen scenario xD

does tornado still feel OP after nerf?

[winged orchid]

If there was a nerf I didnt even notice so yes

[vast jay]

i don't personally like ele tornado only, like people were doing prenerf

i find the single target dmg of rakestomp to be higher, so i tornado the room, then rakestomp, then tornado the room, then rakestomp (on bosses... on trash either rake or tornado kills everything)

[winged orchid]

I'm still using like a level 50 campaign spear

[rugged ingot]

Any resource out there that lists all the new uniques?

[craggy ice]

poe2db

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_uniques

[cursive girder]

Seconded. Was struggling HARD getting through act 2, and now ice tornado is feeling breezy

[hard vine]

Clearly a bug that I can't upgrade my gems but can use them, will this get fixed?

[gray sundial]

Anyone have a good boneshatter guide to follow?

[cursive girder]

You’re saying give the tornadoes bleed damage and then when they kill things it triggers herald of blood?

[vast jay]

@cursive girder yes

this makes it so I can use any one skill and still get herald of blood explosions..... just a tornado - they get bleed, just a rake/stomp they get bleed... the bleed doen't do a huge amount of dmg, but when it's a chain reaction with herald of blood its alot

i also put poison and plague support on my whirling slash, and i take the bonus dmg to blinded enemies

the poison is not alot of dmg, but everything that helps something die helps casue the herald of blood chain reaction

[cursive girder]

Yeah I like that, will try it out. Does that work with the elemental pickup on the tornadoes? Like can they pick up ice/lightning and still deal bleed?

[vast jay]

yes

[cursive girder]

Dope

[vast jay]

the downside is that I have to drop Salvo off tornados, to put on bleed.... but i find it works better... more tornados has a diminishing return

also, i dont run combat frenzy.. i run ghsot dance and herald of blood.. because i prefer the tornados i do fire to herald explod things in the next screen, rather than have more tornados going all over

[fringe ibex]

does extracting impale only extract one stack? or all stacks

[still rock]

yeah minion ai is pretty bad rn

[still rock]

it wasnt really a nerf, it was a bug that was stacking the gain damage from elemental ground effects for every individual twister.. e.g. 1 twister got 50%, the next one got 100%, the one after that got 150% and so on

now its correctly 50% across the board

that's why theres clips of act bosses being one shot pre-fix

[vast jay]

well.. they also changed it so that when you cast 5 twisters, they can't shotgun a single target at point blank.. they added the "one hit per 0.66s per cast of tornados"

[still rock]

i thought that was just baseline

regardless, they still are good

[vast jay]

na, when they shipped, if you shotgun 10 tornados in a single cast at point blank, it could hit an enemy for 10x dmg... now it hits for 1x dmg

this was an important change though... necessary nerf

those 10 tornados can STILL hit the enemy multiple times if they bounce off stuff, they just have to have 0.66s between each "hit" from a single cast-group of tornados

[cursive girder]

@vast jay is rake still your go-to single target while tornadoes are doing their thing?

[vast jay]

yes

but it's not rake

it's the stomping ground support

[still rock]

only extracts one - the strongest impale debuff currently available, per attack hit

[vast jay]

rake does zero dmg

[fringe ibex]

ah lame

thanks

[cursive girder]

Yes sorry that’s what I meant

[vast jay]

stomping ground does a ground AOE for every "step" your character takes in an ability - scaling on strength. and rake takes three steps per cast

yea

it depsnds though. if they are right ontop of me i rake.. if they are further off, i might tornado again

and i always bring up another whirling slash, because i take the nodes for bonus dmg to blinded targets

[still rock]

wonder if its better to just leave rake low level

for mana

jokes on mace users when the best str skill available is a spear skill w str support 😂

[vast jay]

there really isn't much reason to make rake higher level imo.... i really only level up my tornado... and sometimes whirling slash, because i have whirling slash poison/plague support

[still rock]

im doing splinter on my whirling slash for armor break

really only applicable to bosses but its noticeable

[vast jay]

ya, thats a good option..

[still rock]

currently tempo, rage, splinter

[vast jay]

ohh no, texas went down

[still rock]

classic

[vast jay]

of all the situations for the server to eat it... I was almost to the end of the matlan waterways gauntlet!

[still rock]

i can see mag effect being useful for whirling as well but im using it on herald of thunder currently

[crystal drift]

@vast jay i got my first spirit gem , do u think i should stil grab herald of blood over a different one even if i dont plan to use rake at all?

[vast jay]

yes... i was using tornado+bleed+HOB before i ever tried rake

[crystal drift]

i am using frostbolt

[still rock]

herald of blood is only useful if youre actively bleeding, so if youre getting bleed elsewhere then its probably good, unsure if its better than doing ele rn im not going much into bleed

[vast jay]

the thing that is nice about HOB.. is that you can just drop a bleed gem onto torandos.. and thats enough to proc HOB... but the other heralds require another skill

[crystal drift]

yeah frostbolt is alright

[vast jay]

like herald of ice with frostbolt is nice.. but then you have to cast frostbolt to get a death explosion

but you can run HOB with bleed supoprt on tornado and you get explosions even without using frostbolt

[crystal drift]

my only problem atm is using whirlwind , its just soo slow standing still to do ww 3 times almost kills me and i die to bosses soo much cause i run out of heals from prolonged fights

[still rock]

beast ele ground trail is "free" ele activator, just not 100% uptime since he likes to have a party in the corner of my screen a lot

[vast jay]

and also, they have to be frozen to get herald of ice procs until you get polskerin ring

[crystal drift]

can my tornados do bleed and freeze both ?

[vast jay]

@crystal drift you can whirlwind in any direction, just whirlwind back a bit

yes your tornados can apply bleed and freeze

[still rock]

i think the people running cold twisters are taking a lot of gain % cold from passive tree to get more consistent freezes

[vast jay]

and also, run ghost dance and evasion/ES gear, it'll give you some buffer for the boss hits

[crystal drift]

ok ty , ill just run with HOB i guess , only problem is no support gems to grab bleed support 😄

[vast jay]

on a boss, i just toss my icy tornados out, jump on his face, and start raking him until he staggers

you get alot of level 1 support gems you will get one soon

[cursive girder]

There’s a few nodes at the outer ring on the passive tree that increases skill speed and makes a huge dif to it feeling so slow IMO

[frail fable]

Is monk still good?

[vast jay]

@crystal drift be sure to experiment with "aiming" the jump of your whiurling slash.. becuase you can jump backwards, sideways, anyway, even to dodge things (though you'll need more cast speed probably for that)

[frail fable]

The invoker monk build from b4 this season

[crystal drift]

ye that might have been my problem

i turned on the use skill without moving icon for WW

i turned it off now

[frail fable]

I wanna know cause I always wanted to try monk so I started one this season I was Sorc b4

[vast jay]

@crystal drift ohh, i have whirl on my middle mouse and im basically constantly clicking it... i feel l ike they should call this build the "stupid hopping rabbit of tornado death" build

[crystal drift]

i have ww on E twisters on left click and frostbolt on right click

do i proc this somehow?

[vast jay]

yes

[crystal drift]

with twisters?

[vast jay]

twister = range, whirl = melee

[crystal drift]

thankg god

[vast jay]

so as long as you hit something with each every 8 seconds yer good

this is what my early tree looks like

[ionic cargo]

does uber pinncale boss only have 50 ele res?

[atomic halo]

arbiter has 75%

check stuff on poedb

think xesht 75% as well?

[ionic cargo]

thanks

[cursive girder]

Appreciate all the guidance!

[lime prairie]

Where do you find the 10spirit cost terracotta warrior?

[vast jay]

the funny thing is... im not even sure i love the huntress gameplay... but it certainly is mega strong

i feel a bit dirty, like the broken spiritborn on release in d4

maybe they need to increase the mana cost of whirling slash.. because it doesnt seem right that even at low levels i could just perma cast whirling slash and tornado into thin air

thats a nice leveling weapon i will probably never use

[still rock]

spiritborn was like completely breaking the game tho tbf

[vast jay]

i have not seen spear/huntress in maps yet, but at level 40, it feels like this is completely breaking the game..

make everything non-interactive.. I just spam click whirling-slash and tornado as I hop through maps

you know those annoying water bogs? they die off screen. the dudes that slam the tombstones? they die off screen. the big guys that explode? they die offscreen

im not inteacting with almost any mechanics

unless they are yellow/rare

[static plinth]

Yeah whirling slash twister is feeling surprisingly nice rn

[vast jay]

i do not consider this nice 🙂

for me something is nice if the right button pushes obliterate content, and the wrong button pushes kill me...

this is just mindles ababababab everything dies

[still rock]

5 frenzy charge twofold proc is like 5000 twisters its pretty fun

[vast jay]

i feel like the only decision im making here while playing is whether i hop forward or backward

its like playing kalista with full screen aoe

[buoyant flower]

i've heared from some friends online, they said in 0.2 u no longer need to worry about survive, THING IS U ARE doing ZDPS, fuuny joke ha

[vast jay]

that is how huntress feels right now to me..

which is why it shocks me how people cry about things being too hard.. i think they don't understand math, so until someone hands them a build the game is impossible

[still rock]

the thing that people are missing is that poe1 has this problem as well but most people that know what theyre doing dont experience it (and the ones that dont just follow a step by step guide) - some skills are just not good for leveling or with low investment

i think mathil noted this from what i read - we had similar complaints at the beginning of 0.1 until people got some currency and figured out what worked well

gamers are just knee jerk and dont want to problem solve - which is fine theres plenty of other games that inherently solve rpg system problems for you

[buoyant flower]

from what i played by far, (after nerf to monster life)things are okish

[vast jay]

yeah. i remember at 0.1 launch, people were crying... and i admit i died once in clearfell zone.. but then i played for a couple hours, and started facerolling everything, because making builds in POE2 is 100x easier than in POE1

[buoyant flower]

similar to 0.1,still not that funny but anyway it's P2 not P1

[static plinth]

Defences still feel bad, damage doesnt suck that much after the hotfixes

[buoyant flower]

should accept it but note complain it

[still rock]

armour needs an overhaul, i hope its on their radar. that criticism isnt going away in 0.2 lol

[vast jay]

i agree, defense seems like it is in the wrong place.. not enough ot it.. especially with grim feast gone.. we'll see was i get later

[static plinth]

Armour needs an overhaul and i feel like they gotta do something about ES

Not just nerf it and not raise up life

But equalize them some

I cant get over the fact they didnt just copy the armour formula from 1

[still rock]

yeah same

[buoyant flower]

armour...will not be good till trasendence comes out

[static plinth]

It wasnt awesome but it worked perfectly fine

[still rock]

espec since theres less ways to get % pdr and armor buffs in poe2

[static plinth]

We have several forms of Transcendence

[buoyant flower]

game is full of ele dmg

[static plinth]

Armour sucks because its a completely different formula

It goes BEFORE res for god's sake

[sterile spade]

What is the best website for builds??

[still rock]

% pdr is what makes armour good in poe1 since it lowers the insanely high amt of armor required to feel good

and the formula is more player friendly

in general

[oblique marlin]

folks is there a list of all NEW unique items added, as well as ALL new support gems?

[still rock]

but we dont have many sources of % pdr in 2

[vast jay]

for builds, maxroll and mobalytics both have issues.. as a build publisher, i prefer to do it on mobalytics

[static plinth]

poe2db.tw

[buoyant flower]

rly? i don't see any viable ele mitgation base on armour

pathfinder got 30% eva as ele reduc

that's good

[static plinth]

Viable is a different question

Blackbraid and a support off the top of my head but im pretty sure there's more

[still rock]

cloak of flame, heatproofing, the smith node

[sterile spade]

What is the best website for builds???

[still rock]

to name a few

[still rock]

maxroll or mobalytics

[oblique marlin]

its not separated from old

[buoyant flower]

COF is not armour...anyway it's phy to ele reduction method

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_league

[static plinth]

These

[still rock]

yes but armor happens after the "taken as" so it inherently makes any amt of armor more effective to mitigate the phys leftover

[buoyant flower]

BTW anyone tested the snakepit bonestorm interaction fixed?>

[still rock]

bonestorm is impale now, you can only pop one impale at a time

they reworked it into the new impale keyword system

[static plinth]

Whats the default bleed duration

[still rock]

and you also need dmg on the hit with impale for it to be meaningful

[still rock]

4

[buoyant flower]

Fixed a bug where projectiles that cannot chain, such as Lightning arrow, were chaning off of terrain.

i mean this one..

[static plinth]

hrm okay crimson assault is not it then

at least for the build im trying to make

[still rock]

oh i thought you meant from 0.1

that one idk

[still rock]

sorry, 5

i lied

[static plinth]

Crimson Assault definitely not it ill just get normal aggravation

[buoyant flower]

in 0.1 u can equip snakepit in left ring and when the bonestorm hit the ground,thay can chain back to target

20 bones 1 cast, 40%(60% with passive) chain back

rly shinny DPS...but i'm afraid that's gone

[still rock]

only downside of lightning tiwsters rn is that its insanely fucking loud with 50 of them going on at once lol

[vast jay]

is anyone here playing a warrior strength stacking rake/stomp build? because im not even str stacking and stomp is nutz.... on a warrior with str nodes it has to be beyond dumb

[slim marten]

Hello all. Trying to get tactician merc bleed/pin to work. And looking to know if I'm even close to a valid build...all bleeding aggravated. Then go pin. Anyone seen anything close to this working or am I barking up wrong tree

[still rock]

https://poe2.ninja/builds/dawn?class=Smith+of+Kitava,Warbringer,Titan&skills=Rake

[static plinth]

This is dogshit right

[still rock]

poe ninja is a build makers best friend

aside from pob which is like a build makers girlfriend

[vast jay]

are we talking about aoe celaring or bossing?

[static plinth]

Ingenuity Ritualist with 5000 HP gets like 250 damage from it i guess

[buoyant flower]

LICH->eternal life, big muscle, full str stacking and life stacking

[still rock]

funny enough lich could use this i think

[atomic halo]

let's see, assuming 6k life, = 180 flat, not bad

[static plinth]

Wait Eternal Life is great lmao

[still rock]

yeah what tyang said

[vast jay]

you would have to stack alot of life and attack speed for 3% life to be a good bons, but it could happen

[slim marten]

I guess that's a good question. I would guess it's strong against bossing and bad against aoe huh?

[vast jay]

maybe it could be really good for boodmage when 2x life

[static plinth]

Its only based on max

[atomic halo]

maybe could be corrupted to 4 as well

[static plinth]

But yeah Eternal Life is actually smart as hell

[static plinth]

Dont think so, but Ingenuity makes it 4 but thats probably not worth it

[buoyant flower]

kin remind to u, anything with "life cost" can not work with eternal life

life not changed = can't cost

[grim dawn]

is running lightning boots for twister zon bad? Is it better to just self cast cold ?

[strong apex]

hi, i want to start new, does monk a good starter class? and where can i find best guide for progresssion/build?

[still rock]

no i see people doing it

its just 10% ms boots lol

nasty

[grim dawn]

yeh Im running it just hate the 10 MS lol

[buoyant flower]

same with scarifice xx life to yy effect, can't change, ccan't sacrifice

[grim dawn]

didnt know if the damage would be much different

@still rock

[slim marten]

Building for maps. Do you have to build one equip set for aoe and one for the boss?

[still rock]

im using a tame beast with lightning trail tbf

works for me

[grim dawn]

does the beast die a lot?

[static plinth]

Can you ge ta rare with multiple trails

[still rock]

no i gave it meat shield

[still rock]

i dont think so

[vast jay]

if you dont like casting your element, you can use herald of ice with support that makes killing frozen enemies drop chilled ground and it'll basically chain reaction forever

[static plinth]

AND it has magic find we are so fucking back

Oh so THATS whats unique about this belt huh

Damn it has anti-synergy with Ritualist

[still rock]

how foten do your charms asctually go off lol

shit better give you 100% energy on one charm use or its booboo

[static plinth]

Well there's the ele res ones that go off a lot

[static plinth]

I think it goes off every 1.5 charm uses by default

[still rock]

ehhh

[static plinth]

Oh wait no they consume 40 a use not 25

[still rock]

sounds bad to me

[static plinth]

It goes off every charm use yeah

[still rock]

well thats slightly better then

[static plinth]

Assuming 1s cast time

[buoyant flower]

is there any new PN released recently? no action with the ritual bug?

[static plinth]

80 energy at level 1 skill, around 120 at level 19

[still rock]

are there ways to self activate charms via inflicting yourself with ailment or something

[static plinth]

So not good but might have a use-case

[static plinth]

Overcharge support

[still rock]

thats probably the best way to use it

[static plinth]

Infernalist can self-ignite

Overcharge Support also gets you a Frenzy charge with the new unique

[slim marten]

So I'm guessing bleed is good against bosses? Since larger hp pool. ...so how do you compensate for the poor aoe clear? Merc tacticion..maybe totem the artillery?

[still rock]

priority would be to get charm recovery highest as you can and also self activating the charm somehow, thats step 1

[static plinth]

The issue is you need to actually eat the charges

You cant substitute with Pragmatism or Ritualist

OH HEY

MY BABY IS BACK

[still rock]

thicket warding has 20% for charm charge to not consume

[buoyant flower]

which one?

[static plinth]

Pretty sure thatll break it too

[static plinth]

Valako's Roar but thats not shocked it's lightning damage

[still rock]

good thing we have easy ways to scale life

[static plinth]

It activates this one

[static plinth]

sob

[novel cove]

Any keystone that change life leech to energy shield leech?

[static plinth]

No, Essentia Sanguis unique gloves

[novel cove]

Got it. Any energy shield leech support gems like in PoE1?

And thank you

[still rock]

no, but soul tether will let your overfill life leech go into ES

im pretty sure with CI it just functions as ES leech basically? unsure

i havent made a CI toon yet

[static plinth]

huh, thats good to know

[still rock]

i used it on my titan flameblaster with disdain in 0.1

[novel cove]

Good stuff, thanks guys

[still rock]

its pretty strong

[atomic halo]

captainlance spotted

[still rock]

is he using it

[static plinth]

Is this the fastest mace in the game?

[atomic halo]

no he just used it a lot in poe1

[still rock]

i got one earlier its pretty damn quick

the mace strike feels like youre swinging a tennis ball in a sock around

[static plinth]

lmao

[still rock]

the dmg isnt bad for a leveling weapon as well

[dense laurel]

Is it 1 or 2 handed?

[still rock]

2

[static plinth]

ah fuck its two handed

lame

[dense laurel]

I mean...could get giants blood and dual.wield 😉

[static plinth]

Oh right this is the glorious PoE2

[still rock]

i have salvo on my spear throw rn and its fucking hilarious watching it throw behind me and at 90 degrees angles when you spam it lol

[still rock]

bringer of rain exists as well

[dense laurel]

What is salvo??

0w0

Salvo?

[still rock]

support thats basically unleash for proj skills

but makes your projectiles fire in random directions

[static plinth]

Bootleg ass Nimis

[dense laurel]

0_0
heavy breathing

• barrage.....👀

[static plinth]

What the fuck

[static plinth]

Bringer of Rain doesnt even have +Life on it?

What a scam

[still rock]

yeah i was disappointed by that

nobody is gunna use it because of that

[static plinth]

Rare it is

[vast jay]

okay.. im offically out of ideas for where to spend passive points (level 43 huntress)

[still rock]

+FRENZYS, ACCURACY, AS, ETC

oops caps

hehe

[vast jay]

i dont use frenzy

[still rock]

youre not using barrage?

[vast jay]

probably i could just get some attack speed somehere

no

dont need it

[still rock]

why not lmao

its insane

[vast jay]

everything dies too fast for me to cast 3 things

and on a boss rakestomp does more

[swift estuary]

Does MoM work well with ES on a ED/Contagion Lich ?

[vast jay]

i literally just keep doing whirl-whirl-tornado jumping around the map killing mobs 1 screen away from me