2┃build-planning

[copper portal]

why is my warrior doing some kind of status on branoc once i block him

[static plinth]

Youre not using a buckler?

[swift aspen]

How does wither function? It says the enemy takes 5% increased chaos, not that you do 5% increase chaos damage to them, so does it work closer to how more damage functions? Or is it just a confusing way of writing it just adds to your extra damage bucket?

[dawn spire]

is it this?

[dawn spire]

enemy increased damage taken is very similar to "more damage", yes

[copper portal]

well if it did, i am not sure if i am that precise but thanks for telling i will try it again 😄 he just seems dazed

[dawn spire]

it's additive with other sources of increased damage taken, but multiplicative with everything else

[copper portal]

nope, big shield that i get at begin

[swift aspen]

Perfect thank you

[copper portal]

holy crap this is insane, it auto stuns beginner enemies

[dusty kiln]

does stacking gas grenades before the explosion also stack the damage?

[copper portal]

and it is SO EASY to do

you can seriously go the power trip legionaire build

my god AND it has AOE

[austere reef]

found a rare quadrilla with shroudwalker on it and always shocks, so it blinds mobs in its shroud for me making my crit chance go higher on amazon. Pretty nice find

[dawn spire]

you can also use that support that consumes blind to deal more damage, maybe

[austere reef]

that a new one?

[dawn spire]

I saw it on poedb, haven't checked if it was ingame yet

[austere reef]

sounds nice, i'll have to check when i get my next support gem to drop

[static plinth]

It doesnt consume i dont think

Its called Blindside

[carmine flicker]

did someone use manifest weapon?
worth it?

[limber lodge]

Yo is blink now available as its own key bind if you have it socketed and reserved?

Ain't got a 14 spirit gem yet so can't see for myself

[old oriole]

support gems for blood hunt?

[pseudo kayak]

What builds are feeling strong now?

[dawn spire]

apparently spark + orb of storms

[limber lodge]

Essence drain contagion feels great to level.

[dawn spire]

ED+contagion is also great imo

rake + stomping ground + brutality has also seen success

early on, at least

[thin marten]

any level 50 sorc here?

[limber lodge]

I'm a 51 witch, that probably doesn't count

[dawn spire]

If I were you, I'd just ask the follow-up question. I have a level 80+ sorc in standard

[thin marten]

Nice! is it that unplayable as many complained?

[old oriole]

got any idea about blood hunt?

[patent shell]

im building smith of kitava strg stacker scaling the stomping ground using rake to trigger it 4 time in 0.7 seconds and then later i use 20% strg acendancy

[limber lodge]

Fuck no spark archmage is still going to be very good in mapping. I can't confirm this with experience but there's just no way it's gone. It will be slower than 0.1 but that's fine bro it was NUTS

[dawn spire]

I got to level 30ish on my chrono in hunt and then ripped to something dumb and I had no complaints. Boiling down an entire class as "unplayable" is pretty impossible. Every class can use all skills and gear. So if something is unplayable there's no way it's the class' fault

[patent shell]

guys can i still get the poe 1 skin event lvl up to 75 or something for poe 2 ?

[thin marten]

Ah okay understand! I am still a very noob player. not sure if i have the skills to play a harder class

nonetheless i was enjoying mopnk pretty much last season

[dawn spire]

there is no such thing as an easier or harder "class" . There are more and less complex skills, though. But all classes can use all of them. There's a huge amount of skills and the archetypical skills for each class (bows for ranger, spells for witch, etc.) have a mixture of complex and simple skills

[thin marten]

understand! thank you so much for the advice!

[carmine flicker]

that's kinda meta now I guess

[carmine flicker]

well, there are stronger and weaker classes, and some can say that weaker ones are "harder" since need more skill/gear to make them strong

but that's kinda strange take

[dawn spire]

all classes can use all skills and gear, so however easy or hard the class is is up to you

I assumed they meant mechanical difficulty

[carmine flicker]

idk what they mean, tbh

but doing smth good with damn warbringer is harder than with, say, infernalist or chrono 🙂

[dawn spire]

even if they meant difficulty in making a character, it still doesn't come down to class. All classes have easy and hard builds to gear

[ember parrot]

E.g. how hard combos are to execute. Perfect parries, perfect moments for skills like gathering storm etc

[thin marten]

Yes i meant mechanically. Because my reaction are quite bad.

[carmine flicker]

then all classes are equal

[limber lodge]

Ascendancies make a difference and starting point on the passive tree makes a difference. Another difference which matters less is the 'curated experience' intended by GGG that one gets by picking the suggested support gems. Those are sort of "builds" in a sense, and they are not all made equal.

But that matters much less than ascendancies and starting point on the tree

[carmine flicker]

except some class in-build skills but idk if there are hard to use inbuilt skills

[dawn spire]

temporal rift is very high skill ceiling, imo

[limber lodge]

Those are from ascendancies not "classes"

[dawn spire]

using it wrong can easily kill you

but you can easily go sorc, or even chrono, and just not take that skill

you really pick and choose how difficult you want your life to be in poe2

as long as it's at least "kinda hard" because that's the baseline

[carmine flicker]

well, they were called "ascendancy classes" once

[limber lodge]

Sure I'm just saying.

[carmine flicker]

well, you can make it "kinda easy" probably
but that will need work and knowledge

[dawn spire]

I guess I mean "kinda hard" in relation to poe1

[carmine flicker]

like I bet that there are totally broken spectre+spirit beast combo that can play this game for you

[dawn spire]

everything is pretty much "kinda hard" mechanically compared to poe1

[carmine flicker]

ehh, tbh I use LESS buttons in POE2 than in POE1

cause I used "button to kill" and "button to jump" in poe1, there is no jump button, so I'm left with one 🙂

my complex as hell skill panel(mouse movement, not WASD)

[dawn spire]

I guess that's fair. I'm at the trial of sekhema rn and I have 2 active skill gems + wand skill

[old oriole]

does this increase after parry damage? or just the parry itself?

[dawn spire]

it doesn't say parried debuff, so I'd guess just the retaliation

[carmine flicker]

I will soon take unwavering stance too, cause dodge roll overrated

[old oriole]

isn't that not a lot of dmg?

[dawn spire]

I wouldn't say it's a lot, no, but idk how you're building or what retaliation base damage is

I'd say that's a high % of increased damage on a small node, which usually means that it's buffing something that's relatively weak

[carmine flicker]

but tbh I expect the rake/stomping will be nerfed next patch in 2-3 days or so and I will go ed/c lich myself

[static plinth]

Its like 600% DE i think, but you only get one very rarely so its w/e

[dawn spire]

like, the small nodes on chaos damage clusters are around 7%

[worldly stone]

Can someone send me a good huntress build please 🙏

[nimble hound]

lich with ED and Contagion seems very good, a lot of them on top 100 ladder

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality

[worldly stone]

Bleed build is meta for huntress?

[dawn spire]

no

you don't care about the bleed, really

you care that rake moves you slightly forward each attack, which procs stomping ground

[toxic mason]

Only Rake? Herald Blood too? + Bleeding passives or Incision?

[dawn spire]

I wouldn't invest too much into bleed.You want str to buff the damage of stomping ground and then generic stuff to help melee attacks

[carmine flicker]

don't be disappointed if rake/stomping interraction nerfed soon tho

[dawn spire]

%inc phys damage, attack speed, melee damage, spear damage, etc

[toxic mason]

tnx

[carmine flicker]

does spear damage work with stomping?

it's not MELEE btw either

[dawn spire]

that's a good question actually

hmm

[bold moss]

How does the Resonance keystone interact with supports that stipulate that they cannot generate charges?

[dawn spire]

I guess just physical, attack speed, and attack

[carmine flicker]

and AOE ofc

aoe damage works

[dawn spire]

resonance just changes what charge gets generated. it doesn't let you bypass a gem restriction

[carmine flicker]

bear in mind that stomping damage is hard to scale really
bad base crit, don't work with most weapon mods, don't work with most passives

[bold moss]

would it work if it says it cant generate a specific charge? ie, if I use a skill to trigger combat frenzy, but that skill has a support that says it cannot generate frenzy charges, a charge won't be generated. But if I had resonance, would it generate a power charge instead, or not generate a charge at all?

[carmine flicker]

but it's base damage for acts is good

[atomic totem]

Does witch hunter's zealous passive work with ballistics?

[jaunty basin]

New To POE here, So it turns out that my build needs an elemental skill but im in act 2. Im at 7 Int the skill needs 34 . Im a huntress..... Am i screwed for not getting it in the begning ?

[dawn spire]

that's a good question. I don't think we've had the ability to test that before 0.2

[bold moss]

Got it, thanks for the clarification - wanted to know if it was a known interaction before I pathed all the way up there lol

[dawn spire]

no, you can get gear with int, you can respec nodes to get int, you can go back to early zones and farm a gem, or you can buy one from other players

[carmine flicker]

you can change your stat nods with Sin

if you need int THAT much

[dawn spire]

(the hooded one)

[jaunty basin]

Got it. Tried that , But my current gear and skills becomes useless. becasue I am lacking the replaced stat

seems i am really missing out for not taking it earlier

[carmine flicker]

what skill btw?

[jaunty basin]

Ice bolt

[carmine flicker]

why do you need it that much?

[jaunty basin]

Need it for twisters

Twisters are OP

[carmine flicker]

you can always create new lvl 1 character, get your first quest-given lvl 1 gem and create ice bolt

[grave iron]

The devs should allow us to unbind a spectre from the gem, testing many spectres = cutting as many gems , which is unfeasible....

[carmine flicker]

and then give it to current char with stach

[carmine flicker]

POE2 = suffering
you just have to remember that and learn to like it

[jaunty basin]

I didnt know you could do that..... amazing

thnx

[compact tulip]

has anybody figured out what modifier effects the parry animation speed? I assume block recovery rate but I'm too lazy to test it

[gusty dawn]

didn't this used to be Greater Lightning Bolt which had a cooldown but now this one doesn't?

seeing now that people have mentioned that and complained. Seems abusable to me.

[compact haven]

Which one is better for deadeye?

[mystic monolith]

what are the best supports I can get on raise shield

[compact tulip]

blackgleam is for using with firewall, otherwise you'll get more than 7% damage just from the projectile skill level

[compact haven]

Thank u for answer, but what do u think about this vs rune Spear above us?

30% dmg bow skill + 1 lvl to all ps should and sounds better? 😄

[atomic totem]

Has anyone tried a artillery ballistic tactician build yet? If so is it any decent?

[compact tulip]

exalt the rest of the modifiers on, both those rares aren't even full yet

[compact haven]

U mean add one more affix?

[compact tulip]

yeah how are you gonna compare them when they aren't even fully crafted yet lol

[compact haven]

Rune Spear +15% chance to pierce enemy xd

[rigid kayak]

so are people trying huntress amazon accuracy stacking builds

[compact haven]

What bonuses are must have?

[compact tulip]

pierce is fine as long as none of your skills are already chaining/forking

[compact haven]

Oops

[viscid cloud]

What yall think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7R6Ma2mkG4

Lolcohol think this will be nerfed

I hate finding builds and they nerf that shi

[compact tulip]

🗣️ combo finisher support is bugged and not consuming any combo points on use, free 40% more damage use it before it's patched 🗣️

[copper portal]

people scream game is bad and monsters op and this guy calls to nerf. i like it 😄

i hate it that turtle charm is not in kitava ascendancy

would be my perfect option

[nimble hound]

so thats why everyone is using that cycloen skill

lol

[torn forge]

man once i got the gem for twisters i knew that shit would be hella strong later on

[random mesa]

any monks going acolyte yet going well?

[humble wave]

What does Choir of the Storm go for? ( can't access market rn )

[nimble hound]

wait we can't bind mouse wheel up/down yet? lol

[jade locust]

any high level lich with eternal life on, i have an interaction question please

[dawn spire]

probably better to just ask the question

[still rock]

hes prepping us

[dawn spire]

if one of them shows up later, then they don't need to wait for you to ask your real question

[patent shell]

does that count as extra dmg =???

[dawn spire]

yes

[jade locust]

but i want to keep it secret incase im right and it turns out to be op 😛

[dawn spire]

if that's the case, what makes you think you'll get a truthful answer anyway?

if it's a guarded secret, they could just say "nah, it's not busted, don't be silly"

[patent shell]

so if i have 60% blockchance and lets say my skill does 10k i get 16k ? which is a 60% dmg increase isnt it extremly strong then

[dawn spire]

it's 60% more damage if you have no other sources of "added as"

but yeah, that's correct

idk what the base block on that shield is

[still rock]

its low

[dawn spire]

it might be pretty hard to get 60% block with that

and no local block on the shield

[candid garnet]

U guys think gemling legionnaire spear build would be viable? Probably way less damage than amazon right?

[patent shell]

even 30% is extremly strong i think for a fire build

[dawn spire]

for a whole offhand? depends on the build

+2 spells on a focus is already almost 30%

[round escarp]

I wouldn't run gemling with appears

[patent shell]

well but u getting rewarded with dmg stacking a defense mech like blockchance

[dawn spire]

right, but what's the block chance on the shield by default?

you gotta factor in the points you're spending on block nodes as well

[still rock]

its 26%

[dawn spire]

those % inc block nodes aren't 1:1

[patent shell]

yes i know

[round escarp]

Yeah you can get 75% gain as does

[still rock]

its not bad but youre better off running a high block chance rare to invest into block imo

[round escarp]

I recommend running warbringer if you do that though

For the base 40% block

[patent shell]

but maybe its possible to get 60% inc blockchance somehow so u can get 41% extra fire dmg on ur fire skill

[dawn spire]

that cluster does get you to 29% block

[patent shell]

which cluster ?

[dawn spire]

the one in your screenshot

[still rock]

yeah renlys training makes chernobogs way more valuable

[dawn spire]

oh, no

the first small isn;t block chance

so just 28%

[halcyon solar]

What kind of items are worth salvaging again? i forgot so much... The ones with Quality for sure, but there are still like 3-4 other things left. Help me out there, pls.

[dawn spire]

#1328202289755983932 has a rundown

mostly sockets

idk if you can salvage anything else, actually

[woven zinc]

Ritualist stand any chance against Amazon?

[dawn spire]

just quality and sockets

[dawn spire]

for what build?

[still rock]

did they stealth nerf skill gem drops yeesh, im on my fourth run of dreadnought to get a level 8 uncut and have found 0 lmao

[trail vigil]

anybody got a good combat frenzy electrocution setup for huntress?

[woven zinc]

Just in general - I'm really curious about Blood Boil

Really wish they didn't lock us into an Ascendancy lol

[dawn spire]

without more details it's impossible to say. It's like asking what's better between a ferrari and a monster truck. they have wildly different strengths and weaknesses

[upper patrol]

I haven’t started yet. Can’t decide if I should play lich dot or gas arrow?

[dawn spire]

it shouldn't be too hard to swap between those skills

[still rock]

nvm all i had to do was complain, found one 2 min later

[dawn spire]

I think ED+contagion is very smooth

[stuck ocean]

Hey all. I have a question about some interactions with Chaos skill and support gems.

If I have Decaying Hex and Impending Doom supporting a curse, and the debuff gets spread by Contagion supported by Intense Agony, does Intense Agony take precedence and I get the benefit of the damage multiplier, or does Impending Doom take precedence and I don't get the benefit of the damage multiplier?

[still rock]

ed damage is so high as long as you can run the int to keep it up in levels i think you could use it to level anyone now lol

[upper patrol]

Ty!

[marsh token]

yo guys if u get increased dmg to one handed weapons(or any increased dam nodes really) does it buff Stomping Ground?

[patent shell]

is there anything in this game that gives u more damage the more strenght u have ? or more attackspeed =? or accuracry like anything ?

[dawn spire]

no. it only benefits from physical, attack, and area damage increases, I think

and indirectly from attack speed

and str ofc

[marsh token]

ah damn i thought it would since u have a one hander one

on*

[dawn spire]

it's a separate source of damage

it doesn't come from your weapon as far as I know

[marsh token]

oh i see

[dawn spire]

so if I understand you, you're asking:

1. Mob A is afflicted with an impending doom curse + contagion w/ intense agony.
2. Mob A dies and the impending doom hits mob B at the same time as the intense agony contagion spreads to them
3. What happens first; impending doom damage (lowering them to below full life) or contagion application?

correct?

if so, I believe the mob dies and the curse is removed before the contagion spreads

meaning impending doom explosion would ruin your intense agony

[stuck ocean]

Yep that's what I'm asking. And damn okay, thanks for the clarification.

[dawn spire]

I would just drop impending doom if you're running a contagion build

well, hmm

zenith on ED is strong, which means having high current mana is also strong

that's a toughy

but curses are so expensive that you're likely not benefitting from zenith with a curse anyway

[trim moss]

is there any conesus on whats best for the venom draughts? (stun threshold, ailment threshold, mana regen)?

[dawn spire]

considering player ailment thresholds have been halved, I'd go ailment threshold

[trim moss]

oh true, good point

thanks

[drowsy robin]

what is the consensus, ritualist or amazon ascendancy? I really want that 3rd ring slot

[dawn spire]

depends on the build

[drowsy robin]

not really seeing much i want on amazon

[atomic halo]

imo amazon is great ritualist is bait

is there really not much on amazon? basically any attack build can benefit from it

*not much

[dawn spire]

imo chrono is laughing at all the other ascendancies from their throne in the sky

[drowsy robin]

considering that every huntress build guide that shows up on maxroll is amazon, u might be right lol

[worn whale]

are skeletal arsonists better as infernalist or lich?

[patent shell]

can u use focus with spear ?

[verbal totem]

Unsure, but I expect Lich has much better potential in terms of defensive layers

Also solved mana issues early which is nice

[still rock]

pretty sure you can but i havent personally tried

[dawn spire]

it doesn't say you can't

[still rock]

only thing you cant do with spears afaik is dual wield martial weapon

[worn whale]

huh?
does summoner even have mana issues?

[verbal totem]

Current best use for arsonists I've found is the command skill + SRS

Which is a bit Mana hungry yeah

[worn whale]

fair enough

tho tbh by "arsonists" i meant "vaal guards" :)

[verbal totem]

Ohhhhhh, spectres okay, yeah depends, Lich Mana scaled Chaos damage can probably win late and I think their defensive layers are likely much better, but infernalist has that juicy 50% fire damage and more spirit

I think unless you're running really good endgame gear probably Infernalist, but it does get out scaled later

[worn whale]

wait how is lich defensive layers even better?

infernalist gets casual 20% less damage taken

[verbal totem]

Hound got nerfed, no longer shares damage, unless that got changed again

Also energy shield bypass + no change in health + aztiris disdain

[worn whale]

oh rip
so the one reason for hounds existence is gone

[verbal totem]

Ehhhh, technically it's still nice for exposure and perma-ignite combos

[worn whale]

fair except
vaal guards already apply exposure

[verbal totem]

Anyone found any other good spectres yet? I do want to play them at some point but AFAICT still a lot of trouble finding viable late game options so far

[still harness]

Why can't we use Unleash support on Orb of Storms anymore?

[late fiber]

Lich is witch not sorceress right?

[patent shell]

can i get decent amount of attackspeed beside going dex stacking with hands of wisdom ??

[nimble hound]

Yes because they rhyme

[pearl sluice]

what support gems do you use in order to make a projectile hit multiple targets? I am testing out spear throw build stuff and its single target is wonderful, but can not figure out how to use it for aoe

[midnight obsidian]

it explodes if you have frenzy charges typically

other spear throw skills are detonated by other ways

for example with explosive spears you can reduce the duration (overlimit support helps you get 2 aoes out)

[pearl sluice]

Makes sense, I am trying to see like a spear throw bleed build. Everyone using lightning so can alway swap to that but wanted to test out bleed

doing the rake combo for melee stuff but the damage for spear throw with lacerate is pretty good

[patent shell]

i could just use this then instead of the shield lol

[midnight obsidian]

sceptres are mainhands

[dawn spire]

or use both (:

[dawn spire]

they can be used alongside wands, though

[midnight obsidian]

you get 25% more speed on dance with death if you leave it empty

[patent shell]

what dance ?

[dawn spire]

we were talking about chernobog's pillar

[patent shell]

btw isnt the mod rly bad for us ? what if enemy has 40% lightning and 50% fire and i have 50% fire pen but it only resists lightbing then ?

[dawn spire]

if you're using penetration, yeah, it might be bad

[cedar aspen]

Stupid question but what’s the best way of using the new filter on the passive tree, just add keywords you’re aiming for in your build?

[strange sleet]

does this work on the mana regen you get from life if you have no inherent mana regen?

[past veldt]

thoughts on pierce over fork on galvanic rounds?

[pine veldt]

anyone got some helpful tips, playing my monk agian, i dont remember being this squishy before i take one hit my energy shield gone take 2 more hits dead, makeing the campaign really tough to do, currently lvl 20

[dawn spire]

that 6% of life regenerated as mana per second is effectively your new base mana regen rate. The 25% from the draught would apply to that

[strange sleet]

cheers mate

[dawn spire]

I'd give #1328202289755983932 a read. If you're relying on ES in the campaign without a way to sustain it, I'd consider a different approach. Life, resistances, and movement speed are your best defensive stats in the campaign

[magic pier]

does Cooldown Reduction work with Combat Frenzy? can you generate Frenzy charges more often with Cooldown reduction?

[atomic halo]

combat frenzy isn't a cooldown

it's a timer

which is like a cooldown but you can't reduce it with stuff like inc. cdr

[magic pier]

can you reduce it at all?

[patent shell]

hmmm but i think there is a way to trick out this mod for example if i have 40% fire pen and enemy has 40% fire res and 30% lightning res dont i change his 40% fire into 0% then so enemis new lowest res is fire and not lightnign anymore ?

or lets say flammabilty

curse

[gray sundial]

Does anyone have a decent guide to follow for a very new player playing huntress?

[magic saffron]

any body has an explosive arrow pob for me?

[patent shell]

does rage increase stomping ground dmg ?

[hasty vault]

If Rake has no crit, means it can’t crit?

[past veldt]

why is stormcallers arrow so hard to shock? im using it as a secondary weapon skill ig i dont have enough lightning or physical damage on bow its bow?

what gives more %chance to shock? lightning dmg or physical dmg on bow/quiver

[patent shell]

i think it crits based on ur weapon crit then but the bleeding doesnt work with crit

[tulip fog]

the bleeding is based off of 15% of the hit that dealt it, so while the bleed itself cant crit it can be affected by the higher damage from the crit indirectly

[carmine flicker]

it's attack dmg so ye

[tulip fog]

anyone know if this node counts the crit gained from the ascendancy?

[river geode]

what are some good leveling weapons for campaign? I am levelling a mace warrior

[pearl sluice]

is there a way to make bloodhound mark apply to multiple targets?

[tulip fog]

nope, its a mark skill not a curse skill

mark skills are for one target only

[pearl sluice]

ty ty

is there a way to use lacerate to guarntee its 100% bleed hit?

[tawny flare]

What huntress builds are you guys enjoying so far

[pearl sluice]

Been playing Bleed rake/blood hunt but not loving it, trying to make a spear throw bleed build, think I am close. Just running around killing all the bosses in cruel over and over to test

[tawny flare]

I’m doing the same, haven’t got to 22 yet for blood hunt. So far it’s good! Tried the lightning spear one but I feel like that skill needs lots of supports and spirit stuff to shine

[pearl sluice]

rake starts falling off in act 3 so just be ready to swap the support gems, try and stack as much str as possible

act 2 boss was rough for a lot of people, make sure you upgrading your spears

[tawny flare]

Yeah I’m like mid act 2 just melted the tusk boss haha. Yeah I keep seeing people ask for help in gen chat :p

I’m loosely following a guide.. so I’ll probly swap to the actual bleed version when I take that 1st bleed node. For now it’s the ground stomp or whatever it’s called

[pearl sluice]

its def slower. I wanted to make 100 alts and did not realize the campaign would take me this long

[tawny flare]

Lmao

[pearl sluice]

so now just full sending fun because I will not be able to really test with multiple alts

[tawny flare]

Yeah campaign is painful. But honestly kinda fun to just test builds… that’s how I was last season lol. After that I picked one to start mapping

[pearl sluice]

I take my shield off and am doing that attack speed thing, legit playing like a crackhead, apm through the roof right now. Its a blast idk if its working but its fun af

[tawny flare]

If it’s fun it’s working! Btw wdym attack speed shield thing??

[pearl sluice]

skill speed* sorry

there is a node to lose your shield for skill speed

[cyan plinth]

Did they make any changes that would affect ascendancy carries since new league?

[keen tartan]

What generally determines what global defence stat you should focus on in a given build? Theorycrafting a crit bleed bloodmage spear build, but no idea if I should run ES/EVA, ES/Armor, pure EVA, etc. Any veterans have any advice?

[onyx beacon]

What scales artillery ballista? Does weapon damage pertain to it at all? If I have a 150 phys dps xbow, and a 150 ele dps bow (Primarily lightning) Will the lightning one give me less dps, due to art ballista converting PHYS to FIRE, rendering the lightning portion of the 150 dps useless?

Does phys dps of your xbow even do anything?

[neat bison]

Is there something that makes bleed not consume incision or is that mechanic just trash?

[twin sierra]

weapon local dmg doesnt do anything

[pearl sluice]

we are cooking

[twin sierra]

scaling is done mainly through gem levels

[fleet blaze]

ANYONE DOING BONE CAGE BUILD CLEAR PWNER BUILD ?

[static plinth]

Are there any methods of damage avoidance besides Evasion, Block, and Perfidy?

[halcyon solar]

This might be the first patch, in which i might even get the Stun Threshold over Mana Regen in Act 3.

[static plinth]

jokes on you that was always the best one

[stray star]

anyone playing ritualist is it good?

[stark apex]

Stupid question, besides infernalist, what's my best bet for minions?

anything from the new update good?

[halcyon solar]

Lich i guess.

That's what most ppl wanted to play.

[magic pier]

...am i missing something or does raising the level of Blood Hunt decreases the explosion AoE?

[visual warren]

best levelling for huntress? rake+stomping ground into what?

[static plinth]

Yeah, looks that way

Makes enough sense i guess

[midnight obsidian]

it's capped so as you level your damage should naturally scale up

[neat bison]

I find blood hunt best used as an execute anyway for rares/bosses

With conc effect

[static plinth]

Do we have worms yet

[high rivet]

when is POB getting an update? have they put out an estimate?

im thinking of making a thorns build, i think its possible

[static plinth]

100% possible and possibly even good

[high rivet]

im thinking of crit thorns atm

then using the 100% armour bypass, with life leech and vaal pact

[static plinth]

There's that new support that gives Lightning Thorns based off Max Mana while Channeling, combine with Barbs

[high rivet]

you think you need the mana mana thing?

im not sure

[static plinth]

You probably dont need it but i think itll be more powerful than normal thorns sources

[high rivet]

well its what, 15%?

[static plinth]

Barbs is 100% necessary

[high rivet]

oh for sure

i was thinking you go warbringer

take break armour (thorns can do ailments now, was bugged i guess)

then scavenged plating could stack without even needing to hit stuff

[high rivet]

are you accounting for the buffed thorns sources?

especially after mana mods got nerfed

[static plinth]

Uhhh probably not

I havent been paying attention to Thorns lol

[high rivet]

all thorns mods got bigger by like

3.5x

[static plinth]

Holy

[high rivet]

the mod is like, 160-220?

[static plinth]

Okay then yeah the support probably isnt needed

[high rivet]

on body armour, belt, and shield

[limber agate]

Hey, can I get a suggestion: I got merc to lvl 16, was following some build guide for grenades but I figured I don't like that (takes too much time to blow up and feels slow). I got to act 2, got Herald of Ash as well for it, I want to try go galvanic shards or rapid shot, should I continue my char or get a new one (cause I should probably get another spirit gem, idk)?

[static plinth]

Let me check something

[high rivet]

then you got the pale king crown, gloves and briarpatch

[still rock]

zookeeper is on its way

[high rivet]

the new thorns ring

[still rock]

2 monke

[high rivet]

i doubt you need the thorns ring

but if you do take it

[static plinth]

I think you go Titan and go hard into Block

[high rivet]

you go stun with boneshatter

[static plinth]

Wait

Block is Warbringer

Okay no you go Warbringer

[high rivet]

i was thinking warbringer cause of his block

yeah

i assumed thats what you meant

[static plinth]

Cuz Block lets you proc thorns without taking damage

[high rivet]

my estimate at the moment

is you can get around 1200 or more flat thorns?

this is before any increase

and crit not taking into account

btw, you can get base 36% crit thorns chance

[static plinth]

Hey uh

Idea

[high rivet]

then you can inflict impale

[static plinth]

https://poe2db.tw/Splinter_of_Loratta

[high rivet]

whats up

[static plinth]

This spear's problem is it has godawful flat damage

[high rivet]

nononono

its only from that weapon right?

i think i see where you're going

[static plinth]

Yeah i suppose the actual thorns wouldnt work

But Barbs would make it go insane

[high rivet]

it MIGHT

but i doubt it

i honestly think the play

is warbringer boneshatter

then you use the thorns rings, which make targets you stun take thorns hit

[static plinth]

Oh yeah that one is nice

[humble wave]

How is Gemling right now? I saw this passive and thought that's pretty cool but i heard they got nerfed badly

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1315018772095959071/1358211003350908979/image.png?ex=67f30411&is=67f1b291&hm=79a4b0c5b5aae9797675c943d784abc37bd46f20f60894b378a1dfcbff12a159&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[static plinth]

Keep in mind that wont proc Barbs

[high rivet]

you're talking about the, deal thorns for 4 hits after retaliating right?

[static plinth]

Barbs needs a Retaliate hit

[rigid gazelle]

ED/Contagion lads what are you running for your first ascnedancy points as Lich?

[static plinth]

Yeah

[high rivet]

yeah but like

if you are stunning

take a gander

🙂

[static plinth]

Can you realistically light stun every hit

[high rivet]

yes

brink support

use leap slam to light stun

(brink prevent heavy stun)

then smack with boneshatter

and my thought was

you get thorns to high crit chance

it inflict thorns, and your boneshatter will extract it

as your boneshatter wont benefit from much crit, so it shouldnt be critting

[fleet blaze]

anyone know of anyone doing a bone cage/bonestorm build? what class/ascendancy

[bold oxide]

rightmost path to eternal life first

i forget the name of the node before going to eternal life. but that one. then get eternal life and around that time you can also be picking up MoM on the tree

and then your defensive layers are basically set for the whole campaign

[rigid gazelle]

@bold oxide appreciate that, I went Eldritch Empowerment at first for the damage boost but dont have enough ES sustain for it

[viscid cloud]

ehh im reroll im broke af whats like a cheap class i can make that doesnt require crazy gear yet

[stuck ocean]

I know this is a late reply. But I'm cooking up a Lich build utilizing hybrid Chaos/Minions and utilizing MoM/Eldritch Battery and the Unholy Might nodes so I can double dip my mana to scale defense/offense + the curse nodes.

Anyways, for now I'm gonna put Intense Agony with Despair w/ Decaying Hex.

[bold oxide]

yea you cant really take that one as your first. thankfully edc is really strong now so you dont need it anyway

just pick up all the chaos wheels on the tree

this was one of the smoothest campaigns ive done in this game

[rigid gazelle]

yeah EDC is feeling great right now been grabbing all the chaos nodes on the passive as well like you said, also was wondering does Unholy Might in the lich tree boost DoT damage?

[viscid cloud]

perhaps i give huntress another chance since more strong builds has been coming out

[stuck ocean]

Unholy Might specifically states it's a buff for all damage so yes it should apply to dots

[bold oxide]

no unholy might does not affect DoTs sadly

[rigid gazelle]

I keep seeing both responses haha

[stuck ocean]

PoE wording is always very specific. If that's the case then it's not working as intended so it's a bug

[rigid gazelle]

that was my original thought as well that because of how POE wording works it would also apply to DoTs but then I kept seeing people say it doesn't affect DoTs

[static plinth]

Damage as Extra only affects hits

[rigid gazelle]

ahhhh okay

[static plinth]

Last line

[bold oxide]

none of the "extra damage as" affects dots

there ya go

[rigid gazelle]

ahh okay cool thank you guys for all the help I appreciate it and hope your league starts are going well!

[wide viper]

anyone know if skill speed affects attack totem?

[bold oxide]

youre welcome. the strength in lich is in its defensive layers. it does have some good offensive tools in its ascendancy but they should be picked up after the defensive options

soulless form and eternal life are incredibly strong. basically the main reasons to even pick lich at all

[rigid gazelle]

definitely with that MoM combo you mentioned too I can see it

[bold oxide]

yeah. get mom, get those two ascendancy nodes, pick up all the typical ES stuff on the passive tree that was already good in the last patch. then pick your skill of choice and work from there. doesnt necessarily even have to be a chaos skill, but obviously they play nicely with witch and where it sits in the passive tree

[rigid gazelle]

all appreciated

[bold oxide]

and then towards endgame start making sure all your gear has life and mana on it as stacking them both directly boosts your defensive layers

stacking mana can also turn into damage if you choose to run impending doom. but i havent messed with that too much yet as just picking up the chaos wheels is enough to let edc carry you through the campaign with ease

im really loving lich, its a great ascendancy

[rigid gazelle]

same! im only level 31 with one ascendancy trial done but really enjoying it so far

[bold oxide]

hell yea

[sage tulip]

If Im trying to do a sort of undead army build with curses and chaos and element damage what would be the best class and ascendancy to max out my spirit potential ?

aswell as synergize this well. I know picking up certain nodes in poe2 gives more damage with different types.

Just trying to see what would be the best way to max out spirit numbers for a larger army while also being able to dish out decent damage myself.

aoe sort of spells would be best I believe.

[lapis ermine]

idk where to ask this but how do u get radiant grief? too broke to afford it

and is it better to run over flame wall for the gas arrows

[still rock]

most uniques are rng drop

radiant grief is as well

[lapis ermine]

okay so theres not a boss that i have to farm

for the chance

its just random?

[lament tangle]

Anyone know how the skill convalescence works. I activate with spirit. But doesn't seem to be working

[tacit tulip]

anyone have link to a good ranger ice arrow / leveling build

[wild stirrup]

i know its not worth much, but is it any good? or are this mid-level weapon uniques just not usable for endgame (could still be fun for levelling)

[alpine summit]

when will pob2 update be ready?

[still rock]

what update

[viscid cloud]

Warriors good this update? never made one before might give it chance

[alpine summit]

passive tree update

new uniques

skill gems

etc

[still rock]

its been live for like 22 hours bro

lol

oh you said pob

LOL

i should get some sleep gd

[alpine summit]

lol np

[alpine summit]

tbh i should too

but i guess im addicted

[still rock]

i didnt get to play much today so im grindin now

almost done w a3

[alpine summit]

i just started act 3 cruel

[remote narwhal]

So I'm staying in standard and I decided against swapping from gemling even with the nerfs.

I found a spear I wanted to try with gemling over any other.

What skill would you suggest on spear with this

Just to maximize the poison hits

[still rock]

whirling slash + barrage + twister seems to be the winner rn

and you can poison with it as well

[neat bison]

Lightning lance is pretty nice too if you can generate enough frenzy charges

[remote narwhal]

Howa doesn't work with it I don't think

I was thinking rend and just keep the bleed trend.

[still rock]

why wouldnt it work?>

[remote narwhal]

I'm not going for a combo and whirling has a delay.

So that's out.

[still rock]

? that has nothing to do with howa

thats just your preference

lol

[remote narwhal]

Howas for gemling lol

I'm using it on gemling not huntress.

[still rock]

ok?

im lost here lol

twister is an attack, it works with howa

[remote narwhal]

Yea

[still rock]

anyways, all of the spear skills seem to be combo oriented maybe aside from .. rake? so youll be hard pressed to find a one button spammer there

[remote narwhal]

Yea agreed

[still rock]

i dont think you can reliably get enough frenzy charges to spam anything without having to parry disengage for the charge

[neat bison]

If you put electrocute on lance it probably generates enough charges

To spam

[dusk heath]

So passive skill tree is different I see

[remote narwhal]

Well can do that on any skill

But I get the point there

[neat bison]

Yeah it’s thematic at least

lol

[carmine flicker]

same with maces tbh
spells for some reason are best one buttons
why, GGG, why?

[remote narwhal]

I might more do it on the Pathfinder that spear

Since it's more poison based anyways

[still rock]

theyre moving spells from one buttons too, im sure some are still capable of being viable as one button builds but the point is that they want players to engage with the skill mechanics

have to get your brain out of poe1 mindset

[carmine flicker]

that's a good way to lose some players

[still rock]

i like it

[neat bison]

Hopefully they make the multi button builds actually feel good at some point

Because I’m down for the idea but don’t know if they can execute

[still rock]

i like the design focus, they just need to tune the fuck out of things

[carmine flicker]

I like POE1 mindset
build matter, not skill

[still rock]

then play poe1

[remote narwhal]

Tree is better Poe 1

[carmine flicker]

your damn precious POE2 delayed next league for a fking year!
so yeah, "play POE1"

[still rock]

its different design philosophies within the same structure

[remote narwhal]

That's what he meant.

[still rock]

like i said, they just need to tune it better because rn its very over/under tuned in many places

but the idea is there at the least

[carmine flicker]

and summoners are still "zero button spammers and happy with it"

[remote narwhal]

I think Pathfinder is gonna be the best with that spear

[carmine flicker]

summoners are MORE lazy in poe2 than in 1

[still rock]

i havent played one yet, doing companion build rn but im focused on doing dmg with my boys

[carmine flicker]

also poe is about 6-8 hours grindfest first 3-4 days of league
doing "engaging skill mechanics" will get old very quick in those 6-8 hours

[remote narwhal]

On a second note. I accidentally bought at Finn and got that

First buy

If I can get rend spamable I'll use rend

I'ma love testing this spear out later.

[still rock]

most people that are upset are directly comparing everything to poe1, which obviously is unavoidable with it being a sequel but i think some people need to be more open minded abt different design philosophies - saying "this game doesnt work like poe1 did" isnt worthwhile discourse because its a different game and was made to be one

[lapis ermine]

do u want elemental alignment or mana regen from the reward for gas arrow build

[carmine flicker]

I wouldn't care about POE2 if it didn't delay POE1 league

[quick solar]

can anyone tell me if this would stack?
like if i had 10 minions standing together, would they get 9x the buffs or just 1x?

[still rock]

i get that, its a shame they bit more than they could chew, i agree

[carmine flicker]

but it did and thar anger me, so I don't like POE2 by default, even if it's good

[remote narwhal]

Eh my idea is a 1 button fast hitting skill

[still rock]

but ill still enjoy poe2 because i enjoy arpgs

i play all em

[remote narwhal]

But yeah

[still rock]

i just got done revisiting marvel heroes on a private server, that was a lot of fun nostalgia for me

lots of multiple skill rotations

[still rock]

most likely 1 if it works at all

[carmine flicker]

but I really can't do the whole "press Q to build charge, press W to spend charge" 6 hours in a row and think it's "cool skill mechnic"
it's.. meh
at least with one button I can watch anime while doing acts # time in a row (cause I'm damn bored of them and want to see nothing of them)

[still rock]

would have to test to see if it gives them the aura

[carmine flicker]

if it was like dark soul combat where you have like 40 mobs per map and each is "worthwhile opponent" then all piano button mashing would be cool

but there are 400 mobs per map
or more

they blend together into some faceless mob that need to be "chewed through" in minimal time

and "rare" mobs stop being "rare" when you click ritual or expedition and SUDDENLY 10 of them on screen (and you need to wipe them out before their bullshit stack up and overwhelm you)

so I do compare POE2 to POE1 cause mob density and mob behaviour is comparable
so yeah..

[still rock]

these ultimatum beasts seem pretty stronk, and can guarantee 3 mod rares with the ultimatum challenge, good good

[faint jungle]

what acendancy would be good on huntress?

[carmine flicker]

btw, would those beasts be good addition to summoner army?

like skellies+tamed beast

[still rock]

the aura from the monster mod seems iffy, but ive only tested two - the invuln aura is very useful, the %life as es aura is too small to be effective imo

[carmine flicker]

I'm tired of pressing rake, want smth good simple non-button gameplay

[still rock]

i plan to also test the haste aura but hoping its larger than the es aura

[carmine flicker]

invuln aura is "permanent"?(as long as beast alive anyway)

[still rock]

you get 5 seconds of invuln every cast, which is fairly frequent

its basically more like an aoe buff

[carmine flicker]

what if reduced cooldown support?

[still rock]

didnt test

so unsure

[carmine flicker]

and increased duration too, btw

to get 7 second buff

[still rock]

once im in end game and have more support gems to test stuff ill have more info on the beasts in general

but for now im just rocking with what i can get

i think ideally i would run one with invuln aura, dmg aura and haste aura but thats a miracle getting all three lol

[carmine flicker]

I guess beast gem market would be huge.. well
unless majority will quit league at all, lol

[still rock]

untradeable

[carmine flicker]

....
for damn real?

[still rock]

yeah, im fine w it cause otherwise to be efficient youd have to be running a tame beast gem at all times

im doing that anyways because im using them

[carmine flicker]

will beast lvl up with gem lvls?

or you need to re-capture high lvl ones?

[still rock]

chimera from ultimatum seems promising, it has a fire spray spell but i cant really tell how much dmg theyre doing yet

[still rock]

you can level it just like any other gem, yes

[carmine flicker]

I guess I will go summoner in the end then
just have to decide on ascendancy
lich for unholy or inferno for more spirit

[ruby turret]

i have an idea but i have no idea how viable it could be:
im using cold tornado's rn but im thinking of adding a lot of bleeding support to it with passive nodes and using lacerate on the tornado's would they have enough bleed DoT base to work well?

[carmine flicker]

or old good gemling ofc

[still rock]

im running tactician but this is a non-conventional summoner build since i plan on doing dmg with them

[carmine flicker]

with char itself you mean?

[still rock]

try it

[ruby turret]

like this

[still rock]

yes, the companion clusters are tailored for that - they buff your dmg as well if you have a companion in presence and you get companion dmg for yourself as well with the cluster on far east

[carmine flicker]

companions benefit from "normal" minion nodes, right?

[still rock]

the opportunity cost of trying things in poe2 is so low considering how cheap it is to respec so just try stuff if you have a well thought out idea

[still rock]

afaik yes

they have the minion tag

[carmine flicker]

then easier to go top side minion nodes anyway for me

[ruby turret]

im thinking becuase the tornado's are awesome clear but i hear they were fixed to not have good boss damage anymore right?

im not at my next boss yet i cant test this rn

[still rock]

whered you see that

i havent seen any explicit changes to twister yet thru ggg

[ruby turret]

reddit (dereogatory), i saw the patch note too

this

i mean for clear i dont notice a difference but...

[still rock]

ah

[robust pendant]

is there any updated passive skill tree online?

[still rock]

i didnt see that

[ruby turret]

thats why im adding bleed

[still rock]

but i think bleed twisters couldbe really solid tbh

[ruby turret]

freeze + bleed sounds so strong

[still rock]

poe2db

unsure if other planners have updated yet

[robust pendant]

oh, tysm, i tought it was only a static image, ty for the save

[still rock]

can also pin if you care to run bushwhack

[ruby turret]

right that too

i kinda need like 20 levels to test my idea rn LOL

bleeding out + aggrivation is my goal for testing

[still rock]

can always test in standard, but yeah i tend to go into builds halfway blind as well, but its fun to learn and pivot from your mistakes when they happen

[ruby turret]

i dont have a ranger in standard to test with lol only a witch and a sorc

i hated both

[hybrid ocean]

Are drops of the new item bases even enabled yet? Don't see a single Mjölnir on the trade site

[still rock]

must be tier 0 lol

[hybrid ocean]

Or is it a boss unique?

[ruby turret]

its a higher level unique base and a rarer one

[reef sage]

I've been doing em all day and they've felt fine, but I'm only in cruel rn

[ruby turret]

prob tier 1 if not 0

[ruby turret]

nice

[reef sage]

they feel less silly than last night but still good

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, I suppose the handful of people with them might just not be selling theirs.

Or its a tier 0 and literally nobody has one

[still rock]

its a niche build unique so i imagine someone will post it when they get one soon

[hybrid ocean]

Thing is, I kind of feel like you'd want two of them

[faint jungle]

what ascendancy should i pick ritualist seems really good with the extra ring slot but i see a lot of build guilds picking amazon

[still rock]

the skill would share energy tho

[hybrid ocean]

Been thinking about it a bit, does invoker seem like the right class?

[hybrid ocean]

Oh, it does?

[still rock]

having two meta gems probably not ideal

[ruby turret]

also, the ele pen on tree is nice to get

[hybrid ocean]

I know you can have two of the same meta gem, but maybe it's different if they're granted by equipment?

This would be a poe1 thing

[still rock]

hm, tbh im not sure. id assume they share energy but i could very well be wrong

[grave iron]

Any spectre with nearly constant taunt ? Enemies keep ignoring my horde and chasing me....

[hybrid ocean]

I'm not aware of any other items that give meta skills and that you can hold two of

[still rock]

how do two of the same meta gem function?

outside of mjollnr

[hybrid ocean]

Just independently

Each as if the other(s) did not exist at all

[still rock]

ah, well then i think itd work like that i guess

since its literally just a gem it grants you

[hybrid ocean]

I'd think so

[still rock]

i tinkered with some CoX last patch but never ran two of the same one

[hybrid ocean]

I mostly ended up doing that with elemental invocations

Funky stuff with invocated efficiency, mostly

[still rock]

as for ascendancy, i cant imagine running anything other than invoker would be the best option for any meta gem, no?

espec since they gutted energy gain you kinda have to be invoker, from my understanding

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah. Though the energy gain condition for these is pretty good

It's literally just deal melee damage

[ruby turret]

yeah ok the bug fix didnt impact tornados much at all huh

thats cool

i really liked this

[still rock]

i think it fixed a niche scenario that was one shotting or two shotting act bosses, right?

[hybrid ocean]

But yeah, invoker still seems like a good choice. A bit rough now that lead me through grace is so much worse though.

Yeah, I think the cases where you'd really notice the bug were almost entirely ones where you kind of had to know what you were doing

There is an unfortunate lack of lightning mace skills though. Or of good mace skills at all, for that mace

[carmine flicker]

help me decide lich or infernalist now for braindead afk summoner

(I just don't really know how to sustain lich's ES
new gem is good, but 30 sec cooldown is punishing as hell)

[hybrid ocean]

Hmmm

As for what to slot into there

Since our helmet slot is taken by crown of eyes, we can't run three dragons, so unless there's another way to get fire/physical to shock, lightning conduit is off the table

Maybe just be a stormweaver?

[reef sage]

I think because like you weren't really consistently hitting with the ones that had bugged damage, so there were really big high ends but the consistent damage is about the same

[hybrid ocean]

All the lightning spells kind of suck for single target...

[ruby turret]

i think i was on the count lol here is a clip from yesterday

[hybrid ocean]

Unless it's like, ball lightning + lightning warp?

[ruby turret]

from half to straight dead

[hybrid ocean]

Has anyone gotten this to work well using meta gems?

Wondering how the targeting works, if at all

Because there is something pretty appealing about automatically teleporting around as you stand still hammering things

[lime narwhal]

what are some good tamed beast modifiers to lok out for? was thinking of farming the twin birds in deshar for a summon

[thin basin]

How big is the lc nerf? Cant play til next week

[frozen relic]

For meta skills like Fire Spell on Hit from the kitava acendency, do i need to have the int stat to match the spell as well?

[thin basin]

80% less dmg while hitting 4 more times doesnt seem that bad

[misty field]

has anyone figured out what rapid assault is for? it is lliterally better to autoattack

[foggy yoke]

has pob been updated to the current league yet

[ruby turret]

nope :(

i wanted to run some numbers but its a no go rn it sucks

[tepid otter]

any1 know a demon form build?

[neat bison]

Ok rake is starting to fall off for leveling, anyone have a good alternative?

The physical spear skills don’t seem that appealing

[ruby turret]

tornadoes are really strong, especially if you use an elemental ground of some sort

frostbolt at low level is an easy way to do it

oh also with barrage

[neat bison]

Yea I was going to try to run a bleed build but I feel that might be better off if I came up with some blood mage shenanigans

[ruby turret]

imma do bleeding tornados

i put lacerate on my tornado shot and am going to spec for bllod nodes on tree

(PoB is not updated so + and - some nodes on here) this is roughly my plan

bleed nodes, block nodes, and evasion nodes pretty much

[neat bison]

I wasn’t too impressed with the incision mechanic at first glance, if there was a way to not consume them it’d be interesting

but I like where you pathed instead

[ruby turret]

i pathed for aggrivate and magnitude

[neat bison]

Yeah

[ruby turret]

with so many tornadoes you will hit for bleed and hit to aggrivate at the same time

and with bleeding out you get faster bleed DoT

[neat bison]

I guess I’m wrongly assuming that bleeds from converted damage would suck

[quasi flint]

Is there a potential for a chaos dot int stacker with the new support? decaying hex?

[ruby turret]

tornado adds element, not convert

[neat bison]

Ahh ok

So that could be interesting

I was planning on using explosive lance and the unique spear so

Just gotta figure out frenzy charges then

and run bleed/ignite tornados

[molten pebble]

Is anyone having trouble with tame beast huntress skill? It doesn’t seem to work I cast it, kill the rare and then nothing

[ruby turret]

well this doesn't work for ignite but

there is this

[neat bison]

Yeah I could test out pin or something

[ruby turret]

you would need to use either disengage or pin

[neat bison]

Only 1 pin cluster on the tree hope it’s enough

[ruby turret]

holy shit how did they overlook pin LOL

thats wild

gotta use the pin suport and dream then i guess

[neat bison]

We shall see lmao

[wintry pilot]

Pin does almost nothing on tornadoes

[ruby turret]

aww damn

right becuase its stun to pin

and tornadoes dont do stun

well

[wintry pilot]

Barrage works great tho

[ruby turret]

...basic stab?

[neat bison]

Disengage + electrocute on lightning infusion I guess?

This is getting scuffed

If I can’t figure out I guess I just become a lightning nerd

[ruby turret]

well this isn't exactly helpful for you for pin but wowie i like that

[neat bison]

Yeah it’s real strong

I guess I can use snipers mark since I’m Amazon

Forgot about that

Should have ok crit

[ruby turret]

ill prob go ritualist for the corrupted blood boils

[neat bison]

I would have if they were actually bleed

[ruby turret]

...does corrupted blood not scale with bleed nodes?

[neat bison]

A physical DoT that is not bleed

Very cool

[ruby turret]

thats... fucked

[wintry pilot]

Corrupted blood is a different dot

[neat bison]

Nah it didn’t in PoE1 either

[ruby turret]

womp womp ok welp

welp there is this

[fast eagle]

Quick question to anyone in POE2 what is better for poison stacking more poison on the enemy with less damage or like bleed focus on one big hit to apply one big stack

[neat bison]

I clicked on the tool tip and it doesn’t mention corrupted blood

[ruby turret]

right but corrupted blood is a daamging ailment

if they forgot becuase we didnt have a player source for it that would be... fucked

[neat bison]

It might be a debuff

[wintry pilot]

Wait

[ruby turret]

oh god damn it it is

[wintry pilot]

Ritualist has +1 ring slot and +25% bonus from rings

That's nuts

[ruby turret]

yep

welp then ill go as the whispers ask + wildwood prescence

life recovery per missing life is very nice, means i get more whene i need more

[neat bison]

Maybe the charm stuff would actually be useful if there’s a sick unique one lol

I haven’t looked

[ruby turret]

oh right

i mean... the onsluaght charm

thats one i know of

[neat bison]

Oh that sounds nice actually

[ruby turret]

but i'd rather just take the charm slot on tree

im going that way anyways

[wintry pilot]

Corrupted Blood is a Debuff that deals Physical Damage over time. It's not related to Bleeding in any way and is therefore not affected by any modifiers to Bleeding. Corrupted Blood is also not a Damaging Ailment and is unaffected by modifiers to Damaging Ailments specifically.

[ruby turret]

thats so fucked

i wanted to have fun :(

the ascendancy node already doesn't work on unique enemies

[wintry pilot]

Corrupted Blood inflicted by Skills is often scaled by modifiers to Skill Effect Duration, as long as the Skill has a Duration tag present.

[ruby turret]

oh... i mean thats useable

i can easily get 47% skill duration

[wintry pilot]

Player Skills that inflict Corrupted Blood will have their Damage determined by a set Base Damage or rule to calculate Base Damage on the Skill or Support Gem. As an example, makes the supported Warcry Skill inflict Corrupted Blood which deals 25% of your total Strength as Physical Damage per second.

[ruby turret]

also jewels being strong for building once again lol no wonder they nerfed the slots

this is the skill discription

you pop a beefy boi and watch the magic unfold pretty much

but again, already cant affect unique enemies :(

[halcyon solar]

I'm close to finishing act 4 and still haven't picked an ascendancy since i'm still waiting for some proper info in terms of Infernalist vs Lich.

[ruby turret]

for what kind of build?

[halcyon solar]

Witch summons

[ruby turret]

i mean... really both? they made sure to make no definitive necromancer for minions class

[neat bison]

Infernalist is probably easier to gear

Imagine Lich would be better on the high end

[ruby turret]

get 1 god roll jewel and that changes

minion damage + minion attack/cast speed + minion all res

[neat bison]

The 50% extra as fire the Infernalist got is pretty strong

If you want to deal with pyromantic pact

[livid vine]

Any lightning arrow levelling builds?

[tough zenith]

Hi, for curses, do you want increased or reduced duration? im playing a lich

[carmine flicker]

probably neither, unless you hexblast

well
they last long enough usually
and reducing duration serve no purpose

[tough zenith]

aah okey, gotcha 🙂 was thinking about the lingering whisper and master of hexes passives

[carmine flicker]

wow, looked/tried all smith of kitava skills and they all are meh at best
it's pure passive and defensive ascendancy in the end

so it amount to
+30 total to max res(+15 to cold and lightning)
lost all body armour magic/rare mods
(so around 200 life and like 120 total res and some armour ofc)
+180 total res(around 90 each cold and lightning)
5% life regen
20% increased str
15% increased max life
25% phys damage taken as fire(so basically not taken since 90 res and all)
that's.. well.. ehh
not good

except easy 90 res thing, that's real good

[amber wedge]

so are there any new builds this patch? anything interesting aside from the boring sparks and flame wall builds? also any new monk builds?

[carmine flicker]

spark is dead

[zealous quartz]

Can someone advice me where in this planner there is pob link?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/317nx0it

[amber wedge]

WAIT FOR REAL? THANK GOD

but what now lmao

[carmine flicker]

so smith amouts to
90 all res easy(ok), 25% less phys taken(ok?), smth smth some life(around 1000 at best) and 5% regen
is that good, really?
I love defences, but even I think it's kinda.. mid at best

[amber wedge]

also i just realized why tf do they keep nerfing the meta? its gonna come to a point the game will be unplayable if they keep nerfing anything good

[carmine flicker]

GGG does that, lol
first time?

[amber wedge]

yeah lol

atp im just lost on what to do now

[carmine flicker]

they throw us half-tested things, wait till players found next meta tricks, imba things and cool builds
then nerfs them to the ground

happened every 3 month in POE1 for years

well
till this year long settlers shit

[amber wedge]

ice monk was my favorite builds

only build that entertained me

[carmine flicker]

read
think
learn
adapt

it's basic of POE

[amber wedge]

the srs flamewall minion build was fun but got old sparks was boring always but strong

[carmine flicker]

srs dead too btw

[amber wedge]

and im not too big on melee

other than monk

[amber wedge]

wtf is good rn lmao

[carmine flicker]

well
spears happened
idk if they are good tho
rake IS good, if kinda stupid

[hoary bolt]

Volatility is kinda cool as a concept

[carmine flicker]

how do you play spear(you know, dex weapon..)
buy spear in act1 with attack speed
take rake from lvl 3 gem
NEVER UPGRADE BOTH
leave dex at like 15
stack strenght like madman

[amber wedge]

sorry should have specified like whats good for witch sorc and monk? only classes i actually like

[carmine flicker]

wow, you won or smth

[carmine flicker]

idk, nothing really good
unless you want to mess with spear monk I guess, nothing stop you

[full meadow]

are we able to upgrade companion skill gems after taming?

[carmine flicker]

yes

[full meadow]

how?

[worldly stone]

what do yall think of stat stacking ritualist build since 3 percent extra attribute and bonuses from extra ring and amulet or is stat stacking no longer viable?

[full meadow]

listed as something other than tame beast i suppose?

[amber wedge]

how bad are the old builds are they unplayable or?

[carmine flicker]

monk bit worse for wear
archmage -anything-.. NUKED FROM HIGH ORBIT. EXTERMINATUS

[amber wedge]

so they killed casters basicalyl

[carmine flicker]

tbh idk
people said there you can

[full meadow]

found it, ty btw

[carmine flicker]

how?))

[full meadow]

yeah, its listed in all gems up the top, if someone else asks

[carmine flicker]

thx

[full meadow]

under the same name as the companion

[amber wedge]

well then no casters for me

[carmine flicker]

no
blood mage bleed still blood mage bleed
bonestorm is still alive too
idk, chronomancers have ed/c thing going

[amber wedge]

hm ill check out bloodmage then ty

[carmine flicker]

check ed/c
it's new shiny thing or smth

check stomping rake too
it's kinda.. stupid, but fun for acts(fall off later a lot)
I think it(and ED/C) will be nerfed tho cause you aren't allowed to have fun in POE2

[twin sierra]

lich caster is strong

edc is good but theres prob gonna be other strong options popping up

[brisk vapor]

Are there any tactician summoner/ ballista build guides?

[carmine flicker]

few spells have damage still
comet may be?

[west wharf]

does anyone know how this node interacts with amazon's accuracy->crit scaling?

[twin sierra]

There's plenty of new uniques etc, I'm pretty sure people will find something

[carmine flicker]

probably some tamed beast/spectre combo that will afk kill ubers, lol

ehh
look like my kitava char was a mistake
time to lvl up witch

idk which ascendancy

[twin sierra]

I just swapped from witch to kitava

Edc just didn't feel fun to me

Trying artillery ballista probably

[carmine flicker]

kitava is pure defensive ascendancy

no damage. at. damn. all.

[twin sierra]

Yeah I'm playing hc so options are very limited

[carmine flicker]

so smith amouts to
90 all res easy(ok), 25% less phys taken(ok?), smth smth some life(around 1000 at best) and 5% regen

[twin sierra]

U basically have to play an es based character or kitava

kitava just randomly has insane defences it's kinda dumb

[carmine flicker]

regen with phoenix and some life regen rate could easy enter into 30% life per second territory tho
and that could become absurd at this point I guess

2k life regen and 90 res behind it means it's 20k EHP regained per second
so can grab vaal pact, forget I have flasks(who need those anyway, right?) and just instaleech everything and outregen things when nothing to leech from

idk how good vaal pact is, tho, rn, so can't say for sure

[opal bobcat]

Does the explosion of explosive spear count as a projectile, or is it only the spear itself that's being thrown?

[eternal vale]

i know its early but do we have any info on how far along the tools and wikis are with updating ?

[grim storm]

looking on poe2 trade, what do coloured slots mean and numbers?

[quaint verge]

do the companions from Tame Beast scale based on my level/stats, or are they static at the time of capture and will necessitate being replaced by a capture from a higher level gem later on?

[polar anchor]

for mercenary, do you bother with attack speed or go all in on damage (even attack speed reducing nodes)?

[carmine flicker]

From gem level and your nods

[quaint verge]

Cheers

[naive cloak]

can anyone show me where hte lucky hit keystone is on the passive tree?

[pale niche]

Welp rip Thorn, Barbs and Quill Burst are just a flat damage added at the end

[wintry pilot]

My guess, after seeing the info clip, is that you can level the tame gem the same way you can with skill gems.

[south ore]

it's the case with spectres so I guess it's the same here yeah

[neon gyro]

you can, but it will not be tame beast, but a companion: + specific pet name

[south ore]

does it create a gem for the specific companion too ?

[pallid wigeon]

Hey, Ritualist is 3rd place on ladder, which is surprising. Thought Amazon would be ahead. Any idea what they are running?

[south ore]

ohhh nice

[worldly stone]

which amazon or ritualist has more potential?

[torn sedge]

Has anyone successfully captured a non-corporeal entity? I keep trying to grab Sand Spirit from Keth, but the body disapears too quickly.

[sharp glade]

you need to imprison it in a circle of salt and iron

[vernal pewter]

hey, does the critical strike ascendancy node for the amazon adds crit chance to base or is it a % increase to the base crit chance ?

like right now i have +38.92% crit chance from the node and 6.95% base crit chance

so is it 6.95+ 38.92 crit chance or a 38.92% increase to my 6.95% base ?

[quaint verge]

my understanding is that most crit chance buffs are relative (X increase from your base) rather than flat (X + base)

[stone basalt]

do companions benefit from miion damage at all?

[quaint verge]

also W Rise pfp

[quaint verge]

yes, they count as Minions

[tough zenith]

does spell area work on curses?

[stone basalt]

because telemental army wasnt raising it's resistance in the tooltip :/

[vernal pewter]

oh, a flat increase kinda sounded too good to be true

also thanks !

[stone basalt]

):

is this a bug then

[quaint verge]

unless I'm misunderstanding something (which is entirely possible), I would say that's a bug. Whether it's a mechanical bug (the resistances aren't applying) or a visual one (they are applying, but the tooltips don't reflect that), I don't know

[hollow urchin]

i know lightning spear itself cant fork, but say i took the passive that gives projectiles a 25% chance to fork, would that affect the lightning bolts created from lightning spear?

[dawn spire]

I would have to read the lightning spear gem to say for sure, but assuming it creates projectiles and doesn't disallow them to fork, it should work

[foggy yoke]

i’m not a build maker but i’m currently making my own build and made a planner in maxroll.gg bc pob isn’t updated but can someone tell me if it’s any good https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/op7xx001

[eternal vale]

If i get more AOE after heavy stunning does that already influence on the hit i stun with ? and if the enemy dies on the hit that would heavy stun him does it still count?

[crystal slate]

Yo! I stumbeled upon a probably datamined skill REAP. Any idea if it's actually in the game yet?

[fading meadow]

yo guys i m following pohx light spear / storm lance amazon. Any suggestion for a beast? Haste? invulnerability aura? shock?

[fleet blaze]

hey team. if i wanted to go bone spell physical which ascendancy works best?

[gaunt epoch]

what support gems do u guys put in a tamed beasts skill gem?

[fading meadow]

i guess something that increases presence / cooldown for buffs

[gaunt epoch]

oooh ok thanks

[cosmic tulip]

... I can't get myself to finish act 1 .. =)))

what spell have you guys used on the huntress until lvl 30 ?

[kind pebble]

Does anyone know if poison spark can work? Maybe on Chayula.

[upper viper]

Im having some real big trouble with damage, im still fairly new to using witch. What are people leveling with, i dont want to use minions 🙂
Currenty in act 2

[left island]

Y'all got any advice how not to get one-shot as an armour build during leveling?
Like, I know that armour doesn't work very well against big hits, but I guess it should be possible to play pure armour build?
Are any specific nodes on the tree especially helpful?
Or like... Do I have to use a shield?

[left island]

Tried something like this? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/chaos-totem-lich-imortilize

[frail sedge]

I have read that "extra damage as chaos" nodes do not buff Chaos dot spells like Contagion or Essence Drain. Is that true??

[upper viper]

Thanks, just looked at something similar 😄

[twilit cairn]

why cant i use Expedite support gem with explosive spear ?

[ember pumice]

Just some simple advice not a full build. Try contagion + magnified effect + persistence paired with essence drain + pierce + envenom. This is pretty good for crowds and will take down act 2 bosses just fine as long as your spell damage/chaos damage is decent. Best to pair it with a single target attack maybe from wand or staff to improve single target dps. Another way to go is bonestorm + scattershot + fork although I'm not sure fork is a level 1 support gem like the others.

[frail sedge]

Pls? Nobody knows?

[ember pumice]

Has anybody got some favorite spectres they would recommend. Not looking for meta just fun or good whatever you liked.

[trim anvil]

Hi, haven't played much of last season so I'm essentially new.

Is there any build in this game that plays either like trap assassin or chain lightning sorceress in Diablo 2?

[floral glacier]

guys seeing that whirling slash stays until you leave it and you can move it as you like, do you think an area size build will be good?

[compact haven]

Which one is better for Deadeye?

[dusty kiln]

so companions are mainly there for auras right? in that case would i want a companion that is as cheap/small as possible while having ideal auras like invuln?

[gaunt epoch]

i dont get how that tamed beast works

i been trying to capture a few rare,unique monster but it just doesnt work

is it because im lacking in spirit?

[shy pasture]

tame beast only works on beasts, as the name implies (took me about1hrs to realise that xd) if you equiip tame beast you can see the monster type on the enemy so look for rare mosnters with the beast tag, my favorites so far the quadzilla (beginning act3, and the behemoth from the trial of chaos. ALSO the companions dont realy have a spirit requirement since it cots x% of your spirit depending on the beast you captured, in my case the ape costs 42,3 and the behemoth a bit over 50%

[gaunt epoch]

damn

thanks

so i cant just capture any humanoid or undead huh

[shy pasture]

if you want humanoid or undead you need to use the other cersion, its called "[...] specter" and has an int requirment

that one works on all types

[shy pasture]

i think 52 or 72 int requirment

[gaunt epoch]

oh ok

that also has the 4 modifier right?

[shy pasture]

that im not sure off but i would assume so, but since im playing with a crossbow strght/dex build i didnt try it yet sorry

[gaunt epoch]

hmmm aight, thanks alot

[proven rapids]

I'm trying that with twister on amazon

No so far still but I hope it wil work

[neat bison]

Specters do not inherit modifiers, so you are not only limited to 1 at base level like companions

[shy pasture]

but look how cool beasts are 🙂 n

[gaunt epoch]

goddamn!!

[fleet blaze]

best ascendancy for bone mage?

[viscid harness]

Is there a reason why nobody takes CI on Lich with Eternal Life?

isnt it good for Lich since u can use "Dmg bypass ES" items?

[midnight plank]

whats the currency exchange rate for alchemy orbs to regal orbs?

[patent shell]

is there something like that in poe2 ?=

[hybrid ocean]

Does skill effect duration affect the pulse interval of solar orbs, or only the lifetime?

[winged osprey]

Was scatter shot nerfed?

[quartz cairn]

Is Bleed bad at endgame or something? I've noticed most of the Amazon builds transition from Bleed to HoT/Lightning spear or Gas arrow when they hit maps.

[vital hornet]

Hammer of the Gods no longer has a Cooldown - rip anvil chronomancers?

[upper viper]

Anyone that remember if there is a support gem. That will allow essence drain to spread for me ?

Never mind, who know if you spammed contagion first it would spread to others like that

[static plinth]

Crown of Eyes was added this patch

[proven rapids]

But i don’t see any use of it lol

[upper viper]

Mostly useful for those with spell nodes around and if a ascend seems fit for a good attack skill