2┃build-planning

[still rock]

doesnt take much to release the button on recognition at max stages

if you miss it by half a second its not a big deal anyways

[static plinth]

I hear if you hold it long enough ti goes up to 11 stages

[pseudo jay]

i mean depending on your cast speed it is. . if it takes you 1 second to reach max stages and you hold it half second longer you are effectivly losing 50% more dps

right?

making your total cast time 1.5 instead of 1

on top of that is the task of having to let go and then click again if you are on a boss and want to spam it

[still rock]

yeah but we arent machines, youll have missed dps its not a big deal lol just keep playing and recognizing when you need to release and eventually youll get it smoother

also you cant spam it anymore? its 15s cd

[pseudo jay]

ohh right it is

i guess ill consider the burning skill

incinirate

it should work with all stuff that scale hit becuase it has ignite as thought hitting for x fire dmg right?

[still rock]

its probably gunna fit well into ignite whenever theres an ascendancy that actually interacts with ignite lol

[pseudo jay]

so dmg as extra fire

gonan work right?

[still rock]

ye

[pseudo jay]

it got buffed too

like 33% more dmg

also i noticed maybe mistake on poe 2 db tho that they removed the mana scaling from cast speed?

[normal pumice]

@still rock what ascendancy can you recommend for Flame Blast]?

[pseudo jay]

idk if it would have enough dmg tho

[pseudo jay]

new kitava

😄

tanky af

can stand and channel

90% all ress high regen

[still rock]

seems still there to me

[pseudo jay]

can take blood magic

[still rock]

flameblast isnt really a main skill build anymore, its a supplemental skill for fire spell casting builds for single target or rare mob clear

15s cd

[pseudo jay]

ya too bad i loved the animationa nd aoe around you

i wonder if the ignite skill will have enough dmg

[still rock]

i had the most fun in 0.1 on my flameblast char

was titan blood magic blastin

much fun

[pseudo jay]

i think ill try Incinerate

[feral abyss]

could someone help me understand how he managed to just skip on those passive points without being linked together?

is that a thing or did they just forget that point in the middle lol

[still rock]

theres a jewel that gives the ability to skip passive nodes but this isnt the case here, seems like a bug on the planner

[feral abyss]

oh ok

this is the woolies run n gun witch hunter

[still rock]

xbow seems solid to level with

i know ben is doing so

looks like they fixed the colossus knife hit doing a gazillion dmg

thank god

and you can parry it 😄

[pseudo jay]

how does the stackable fire exposure from incinrate works with this? will it be considered 1 exposure and just apply 5% ress down or will it also stack ?

[still rock]

penetrate can only go to 0%, whereas exposure can go negative

so any penetration you have will only be effective to 0% res

[pseudo jay]

yes im aware but i mean the 5% exposure part. . if you read the skill it says it apply a stacking exposure 7% per stack up to a total of 50%, how will the 5% extra for exposure work? 50% / 7 it means like 7 stacks of the incinirate exposure. will these 5% be added on top of each stack like 5% x 7 ? or just added on top of the 50% total as + 5%?

[static plinth]

Its just 5%

Incinerate is one exposure that gets bigger

[still rock]

+5%

[pseudo jay]

i see thanks

[still rock]

doesnt apply on incinerate stages

[pseudo jay]

so its not really worth

[static plinth]

i mean its not bad

5% is 5%

[pseudo jay]

yea but tbh you can probably get like 100% exposure effect ? total 50% becomes like -100% then also flameability? i think the 5 % are not great i mean its nice if you are next to it but not worth annoint or extra effortr

how does flamability and exposure interact in poe 2? will exposure happens first then flame?

added

[still rock]

they stack cumulatively

exposure + curse effect

pen applies last

[quasi flint]

Any consensus on spear skills?

[pearl sluice]

What is now the best class for bow ? huntress or ranger ? ^^

[rich bolt]

The new spear splinter of Loretta makes it so there is no cap to the poisons in can inflict. There has got to be some sort of build one can do with that.

Want to try and make that work as my second character an advice?

[pseudo jay]

so thats very strong thank you! so i also want to take curse effect right?

[still rock]

yis

[green flame]

I was thinking about Spear Gemling Legionaire, any immediate issues anyone can predict with this?

[rich bolt]

Yeah that ascendancy seems best and it's relatively close to all the good poison clusters.

[hearty heath]

would malady + rake be a decent poison skill? any better than just bleed?

[quaint verge]

would the Companions Keystone allow me to take Tame Beast & Rhoa Companion, or does Rhoa Companion count as a Beast Companion, not just its own 'Rhoa' category?

[hearty heath]

rhoa is seperate

[quaint verge]

coolio, thank you :)

[pseudo jay]

block can not block spells right? or aoe (passive block %)

[rich bolt]

The spear always poisons on hit and has no limit but very low hit damage so I think you would want to scale as many hits as fast as possible?

[still rock]

can blck spell projectiles but not aoe

[broken bison]

Anyone has a tactician mercenary build plan?

[pseudo jay]

awesome. and if you have "can block all hits " thingy from that unique shield does it mean it literally can block anything passively?

[still rock]

as long as its a hit, yes

e.g. not damage over time

[pseudo jay]

thanks alot. thats a pretty strong defensive then

[rich bolt]

Oh wait Smith of Kitava and it's manifest weapon skill maybe?

[still rock]

there are also unblockable attacks from some bosses

generally flashes red

[pseudo jay]

but wiki clearly say that if you have block all hits you should be able to block these aswell?

or maybe i read it too fast/wrong

[still rock]

oh, i havent tested it, i'd trust the wiki over me in that case

[pseudo jay]

thanks block seems pretty good then

[still rock]

very

i noticed a large difference in using a shield vs a focus in 0.1

for mapping specifically

[neat bison]

Yes a shield makes end game packs a lot less scary

[pseudo jay]

theres also the new shield 1% dmg as extra fire per 1% block that could be 75% more dmg for fire spell however.. the downside is having only 26% block with no increae block chance

would be hard to reach 75%

[still rock]

yeah seems like a trap to me, block chance is one of the most important stats on shield

[uncut nexus]

hi guys

[pseudo jay]

ya depending how much % you have on tree but it seems hard to get % on tree

[uncut nexus]

is mind over matter actually important on lich as the mana drain 5% per/s might be hard to manage

[pseudo jay]

the 5% on tree are basically normal increase scaling the base block of your shield after local mods right?

[uncut nexus]

i was doing minion spectre lich

[pseudo jay]

for example if i have 10% increse block on tre and a shield with 50% block id get 5% block chance from it and have 55?

[neat bison]

You can just run ES, but you’ll def want mana sustain

For Lich

[flint osprey]

what is everyone using for rake on huntress?

[neat bison]

Brutality and stomping grounds

[uncut nexus]

hmm

imma take mom then

want mana

[pseudo jay]

wow you are right.. the gap in investment needed for 26% base block shield to say 50% block shield is insane. . wit 50% you only need few points maybe 1 camp to reach the 75% and with 26 base you need massive investment cause not only you have half the base means half the scaling per % on tree but also you need +50% block means +200% instead of needing only +25% block which means only 50% increase on tree?

50*1.5 = 75 % and 26 * 3 is basically your 75%

ehh it made the calculation

50% x 1.5 (50% incease) is 75%

[still rock]

youll see it in the value of shields on trade too, the highest block chance shields go for crazy $

[pseudo jay]

and for 26 you need +200%

ya ill definitely go for high % block shield and then only need minimal investment on tree

[still rock]

rare shields in poe2 seem much better than any unique alternative to me, at least for now

[pseudo jay]

ty

[pseudo jay]

for sure since ill play kitava class ill aim for + max fire ress/all ress then high block high hp the rest doesnt matter too much

some ress

[gilded tangle]

Does attackspeed for minions effect arsonists?

[still rock]

yeah sounds like a solid defense

[pseudo jay]

i mean still gonna have like 90% all ress and ill take 4 points into the free armour at the end cause there isnt a nice fire spell to trigger right now and im using spell so the smite doesnt help. . on armor ill take 5% regen 25% of phys taken as fire probably reduce crit dmg taken 50% and then maybe +5% max or something else

[zinc linden]

Any trusted builds came up?? I just want get easy time

[vernal falcon]

getting to 100% faster respawn time on minions wouldnt make respawn instant right?

[velvet falcon]

whats the least sluggish build/archetype to play? poe 1 player trying 2 for first time

[vernal falcon]

Everything got nuked to the ground in this league so no one knows rn

[velvet falcon]

i saw the new rhoa mount in the trailer, that allows full MS while attacking, thats huge no?

allows poe 1 like movement

[vernal falcon]

for bows and throwing spears only

so id imagine ranger then if you wanna go that route

[velvet falcon]

yea like bow build with rhoa

i just dont wanna play something thats too sluggish

[fading meadow]

still deciding if going bleed spear or ele, how the builds are going?

[jagged wave]

Huntress does well with frenzy charges, but what do you guys do when boss is non parryable?

[still rock]

cry

ggg wants this game to be dark souls but it aint lol

[jagged wave]

Feels super weak and clunky

[still rock]

yup

[jagged wave]

I'm this close to just go grenades and obliterate everything until end game

The scaling is just really bad... Rapid assault, level 3 skill does 10 dps when normal attack does 100. Insane

[flint osprey]

why give a parry option when bosses have such weird or non existent parry attacks??????

[tidal birch]

Any recommendations for leveling uniques for boneshatter leveling?

[jagged wave]

And the only way to get frenzy charges is by parrying. It's insanely stupid development

I don't know if they've actually done solo playthrough of huntress at all.

[wispy glen]

Is a Chaos Minion Lich viable or should it either be a Minion Lich or a Chaos Lich?

[tidal birch]

Is the: https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Quecholli the best leveling weapon for boneshatter? Any opinions on it?

[rigid gazelle]

I have some minions as utility but chaos is handling the bulk of my damage. ED/Contagion eating good right now

[turbid tide]

guys why does barrage not work with freezing salvo

am i missing something

[wispy glen]

Yea, I'm same, but I'm wondering if I should just branch off and stick with one route?

[vernal falcon]

So, rq to confirm, spectres are undead 🙂

you can use sacrifise on them

[rigid gazelle]

Stick with straight Chaos imo, want all the scaling you can get

[uncut nexus]

i thought it make them 50% faster like half the cooldown

idk how to explain

its like ticking clock instead of flat time

[vernal falcon]

i dont know thats what im asking

[uncut nexus]

i think we should wait for someone who know

were you trying to use crazed minions like me

[vernal falcon]

might just test it on old realm

thats what im doing for specters atm

Silly

[uncut nexus]

how wtf

[pseudo jay]

can you still use blink with this?

[agile salmon]

is there any way in the game to convert ALL (elemental) dmg you DEAL to chaos dmg? are there any uniques or passives that offer this?

[vernal falcon]

terracotta soldier cost 10 spirit lmao

[pseudo jay]

original sin?

[agile salmon]

yesss thank you

[vernal falcon]

put on bones of ullr, theyre 7 a piece now

btw

theres no summon animation for them

they just appear

seeing 72 statues show up on your screen, hilarious

[uncut nexus]

lol

will you try killing boss with them

or laggy

[vernal falcon]

im testing uh

oh

so uh

[inner sedge]

can anyone please tell me at what ilevel, or just level requirement I need to be get throw spear to three skill gem slots?

[vernal falcon]

the terracotta soldiers give the same power for cast on minion death, as normal minions

[uncut nexus]

oh no

where do they spawn tho

[vernal falcon]

act 2 lost city

[uncut nexus]

act 2 halanigate right?

oh

the stone ?

[gritty delta]

Hey, so I got burned last league running a build that was a pain to even get through acts with. Anyone found any builds that are a breeze this league? I just want something easy 😭

[uncut nexus]

lich minion!!!

[past heron]

can you still cant change your class ascendancy? they nerf geming hard

[vernal falcon]

problem is theyre slow as shit

is need to find another 10 cost thats faster

[atomic nymph]

Wich is a good leveling build for sorc ?

[celest magnet]

Any lich leveling build?

[gritty delta]

got any guides for it?

[torn kiln]

Does anyone know if cast speed has any effect on frost bomb? I was thinking maybe if I could make a chronomancer and maybe lower the cdr and increase the cast speed that maybe the bombs would pop off a bit faster

Increase the cast speed, lower the cdr, and increase skill duration for repeated pops?

[torn kiln]

check maxroll and mobalytics. I know captain lance put out a lich leveling build using essence drain and contagion but playstyle might not be for everyone

[uncut nexus]

nope :[

but im enjoyong it so far

[midnight geode]

is this flat physical dmg that gets converted to elemental for skills that convert it?

[lime narwhal]

what can you use to detonate storm lance?

[inner sedge]

@lime narwhal skills that detonante. specifically explosive spear for huntress

[lime narwhal]

ah ty

[inner sedge]

@midnight geode depends on specifically what you are converting it with. but for most situations, yes

like if you are doing something genereic like lightning infusion, yes it will be converted to lightning

[midnight geode]

im mainly asking for skills that say for example "100% of physical converted to lightning" and this node

[rugged snow]

im about to login, whats the most op build ?

[midnight geode]

ah ok tyy

[rugged snow]

damn so all builds suck?

[inner sedge]

@rugged snow its day 1 of the new season. literally no one knows what is OP

[flint osprey]

i cant believe I was baited into rake

its so bad on bosses

[opaque bluff]

early game yes

[main bridge]

which we thinking? both are very strong after patch

[pseudo jay]

what are all the "slowing debuffs" in game currently? im trying to valueate how good/useless reduce poten of slowing debuffs on you is?

[rugged snow]

damn

[inner sedge]

@pseudo jay there are quite a few. slow, chill, freeze, maim, and more I can't think of. but in the overall picture, reducing the potency of the debuffs won't matter. you only need certain charms to make the only debuffs that matter useless

[tranquil steeple]

What’s the best base class to league start and get through campaign? Tried on huntress and felt like a slog, didn’t like it.

[inner sedge]

so get a belt with 2 slots, and you will be fine with debuffs

[pseudo jay]

i see so there are not all these annoying slows like in poe like the deli slow and reduce action speed and all that? mainly chill/freeze which you want immunity anyway?

[inner sedge]

@worthy scaffold use a bow. class doesn't matter much.

@pseudo jay basically yes. there are only 2 debuffs that will actually get you killed end game

[pseudo jay]

Ty

[tranquil steeple]

Might just league start deadeye or pathfinder, heard alot change though but I’ll see. Bow still feels the best early I’d guess then, even last league I run bow on everything until tempest bell 😭

How I come back to the discord and Chayula is still a dead ascendancy, no way it wasn’t touched right?

[inner sedge]

@tranquil steeple you start in the same exact spot as ranger. huntress gets good later when you can stack up blood stuff. and the amazon tree can be just as good/even better than deadeye if you use a bow and just lightning arrow as normal if you want to just keep you huntress.

[tranquil steeple]

I guess I’ll run huntress but just play bow then, how is Chayula? Did it get buffed at all

[inner sedge]

literally nothing worthwhile was done to chayula

[balmy snow]

should i go witth lightning arrow lightning rod huntress or rake huntress early on?

[inner sedge]

lightning arrow/rod will always be proven to work as one of the best leveling early game. rake is meh/borderline bad on bosses, but im having fun with it

[sturdy notch]

Noted. I was cruising before hitting a wall in valley of titans. Took a long time to clear that boss.

LR got nerfed tho? Is it not too bad?

Seemed like a substantial reduction in lightning proc

Twister had been clearing mobs really nicely and then that just...stopped in mastodon badlands

[warped jackal]

Anyone who has a strong idea with volatility?

[crude pulsar]

anybody found a spectre that isn't hammered dogshit?

every one I've tried just feels worse than skeletons

[wicked sparrow]

Damage conversion is after Damage multipliers right?

[crude pulsar]

one very cool thing I've discovered is Spectres keep their interactions with other monsters

I have a courtesan from ogham manor that makes little stabby thing spectres explode and leave blood pools

[gentle peak]

Guys can u recommend a build that can have a decent playthought without much struggle?

[wispy needle]

is Unholy might worth it on a non-minion build? It does not increase EDC damage according to tooltip

[woven otter]

What is global physical damage

[celest oxide]

Is there a good way to make Herald of Ash leave burning ground?

[dawn spire]

chaos DoT sorc/witch. essence drain + contagion

[dawn spire]

it's all the physical damage you do (not your minions)

[dawn spire]

unholy might adds extra damage, which does not work for damage over time. Whether or not it's worth it depends entirely on your build and what you're giving up to obtain it

[tulip fog]

if i take this node and im wearing an evasion helmet, does that count the armor as the lowest (since its 0) and give me nothing?

[woven otter]

What do you mean by all, like spell and attack?

[dawn spire]

any physical hit, yes

hold alt and click on underlined keywords to read more about them

[woven otter]

Yea I know, I just wondering about the global part of it, cause would % increase physical damage do the same thing?

[dawn spire]

depends on where the mod is located

[woven otter]

Gloves

[dawn spire]

if you see %increased physical damage on a martial weapon, for instance, it would affect the damage on that weapon

and that's part of your base damage

on gloves, it would just go into your big pool of increased modifiers

[woven otter]

So global doesn’t mean anything really

[dawn spire]

unless it's on a weapon, not really

[celest oxide]

Twister honestly feels strong levelling

Just don’t rely on shitty frenzy charge generation to make elemental ground

That can come later

[dawn spire]

I hear rake + stomping ground + brutality is pretty solid

[celest oxide]

I’m just using Frostbolt to create frozen ground on command

Don’t even need it for packs

Everything blows up in one combo instead of bosses which still die pretty fast

[elder mural]

Does infernal work if you use brutality on your attack skiill gems ?

[dawn spire]

what is "infernal"?

it sounds like fire which means my gut response is "no"

[elder mural]

Infernal Cry my bad

[supple bay]

does attack speed help crossbows reload? or only the 'reload speed' attribute

[dawn spire]

the explosions from infernal cry will work, but the extra fire damage to exerted attacks will not

unless you have brutality linked to infernal cry, then it's the other way around

[elder mural]

Ok, it's literally 100% more dmg is you get 100% extra so brutality not best for slam attack

[dawn spire]

as far as I know, the base attack speed of the crossbow is tied to reload speed, but idk about global attack speed modifiers

[dusty elk]

yo guys, which class/ascendancy is best for raise spectre build ? i want to build some solo leveling shadow army stuff

[sturdy notch]

Fwiw whirling slash plus twisters is ez mode for any boss in a fairly enclosed area which is most. The dude off the map in valley of titans was a bitch. But I'm just sending out a bunch of twisters and letting them do their thing

[dawn spire]

there are hundreds of spectres to try out with various combinations, we don't know what's best yet. I'd check out ghazzy's stream/channel and maybe ask there. He's the most well-known minion content creator for poe2 afaik

[dusty elk]

but i assume witch class is still the way to go

[dawn spire]

I would assume nothing

chrono, warbringer, smith, titan, ritualist, tactician, and gemling are all contenders as well

[weak shard]

Have any big brains cooked up any standout leveling builds yet that seem to be out performing? I'm just starting and stuck trying to decide what class to pick

[dawn spire]

Essence drain + contagion imo

[sharp glade]

why are so many ED users on poe ninja taking the unholy might node

are they stupid

[dawn spire]

can you link one such person?

[dawn spire]

they could be stupid or they could be using it solely for dark effigy, not sure

[slim marten]

How do you refund Stat points? it keeps asking me to pick anouther one, I just wanna reset my tree

[dawn spire]

you need to remove nodes that aren't connected to other nodes first

[ashen shell]

ik its too early to say but what new support playstyles even exist in the update?

there anything new to try out or am i just gonna have to do post-nerf aura cursebot again

and i already know about time snap, banners, blockbots, rarity bots, etc, i mean is there anything new enabled by the update?

[dawn spire]

tactician looks interesting, but that's all I got off the top of the dome

[ashen shell]

i mean, i thought of that but

banners were buffed but still suck for pure supports because their effects are too niche

the best banner is attack damage n the other two are like, 'give things that they probably should already have enough of without you'

[noble token]

anyone found a good way to generate a lot of frenzy charges?

combat frenzy aint cutting it

[pseudo jay]

Guys will the new controled destruction work on incinirate skill/ignite it says hit dmg but the incinirate says ignite as though dealing x dmg and i ubderstood that hit dmg stuff does increase the ignite?

[dawn spire]

I'm not certain, but I believe that if it says, "ignite as though dealing X", it will not benefit from bonuses to hit damage

but it will benefit from other damage mods that apply to it. I think controlled destruction is only to hit damage, so I don't think it will work

[celest oxide]

Damn the subreddit makes me depressed af feel like I shouldn’t even be playing after reading it lmao

[dawn spire]

I stopped reading the poe reddit years ago and my life has improved tenfold

[vast folio]

Is there a way to handle the mana drain from necromatic conduit early? im almost instantly out of mana on act 2 xD

[teal tartan]

is there a way to unbind the selected mob from the Spectre gem? It's difficult to experiment with spectres when you don't have gems...

[dawn spire]

nope, read the gem description carefully. it locks that gem to ONLY summoning that spectre

[meager tulip]

Hows warbringer now?

[fiery brook]

If anyone is playing with poison huntress let me know, I want to theorycraft

[dawn spire]

unspec the node. Other than that, maybe try clarity and getting as much mana regen on the tree as you can. maybe use a wand with mana drain skill

also upgrade your mana flask

[proven rapids]

i'm doing it rn

[sonic peak]

That's weird, I remember them saying they don't want ppl exchanging gems

What happens when you trade it?

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure, I don't play trade

[sonic peak]

Oh wait

Spectres, for some reason I thought it was tame beast

Yeah spectres prob locks in place

[sonic peak]

Parry...?

Or you using bow?

[uneven lintel]

what supports for rake?

[sonic peak]

Ppl are saying stomping ground is strong in early game

If you're building into actual bleed prob something else tho

[uneven lintel]

yeh rake does feel stonger better than the electric spear

[native bolt]

is tempest fury invoker got nerfed or still good?

[void loom]

Do parry create frenzy charges from lvl 1? Or need a node or support out something else?

[tender needle]

Unfortunately the complains seem to be justified. Im playing edc so im chilling, but league started duoq with 2 huntress friends and by level 30 they both did ~10% of my damage and they had to take like 4-5 hours just sitting in act 3 until they found a build that does even remotely anything.

[dawn spire]

disengage skill gem

[sonic peak]

parry marks monster with the 'parry debuff'
using disengage on such monsters grants you a frenzy stack

[dawn spire]

with hundreds of gems to choose from, poe2 does kinda feel like, "find the needle in the haystack and you're cruising"

It does make it feel really good to find it, though

[austere cedar]

any 1 button builds yet?

[dawn spire]

technically corrupting cry isn't dead

probably better on warbringer now

or else you need pin + that other support that stops things from building pin

[tender needle]

Just kinda sucks when 90% of new huntress skills suck and u dont have enough gems to respec/try a bunch of things

[austere cedar]

wow, thats pretty slow/boring

i just looked it up

[sonic peak]

yeah, idk if they nerfed support gem drops after release, but I'm also getting a lot less to try stuff

[frail sedge]

Any idea for a caster build for ritualist? I'm thinking if there's any way to make a good use of the ascendancy's 20% phys damage + ring slot+ blood boil and maybe the life recovery for a wand/sceptre build. I just need some ideas to start from somewhere

[dawn spire]

yeah, as 1-button builds should be, imo

[austere cedar]

i loved spark archmage in .1

ultra fast

and strong

but thats a song of the past now

[sonic peak]

the stuff that works with huntress works fine, but some combos are kinda undertuned
if you try speccing into those and you don't get lucky with gem drops you'll have a miserable experience

[dawn spire]

ultra busted, yeah. if you liked that, I'd recommend poe1

if you wanna zoom zoom, poe1 >>> poe2

[austere cedar]

cant stand poe1 anymore, too many QoL in poe2

[sonic peak]

also economy kinda dead until 3.26

[cosmic tulip]

what have you guys decided to play ? I tried minions but it's not for me..

[dawn spire]

ED+contagion

[cosmic tulip]

how is the new class ? is it worth playing ?

[austere cedar]

i went twister whirlwind but im not feeling it so far tbh

[dawn spire]

we can't tell you what's worth playing

[sonic peak]

twister kills everything, but is kinda boring

feels like I'm playing PoE1

lol

[cosmic tulip]

I am trying to decided between the new Smith of Kitava or the amazon twister one..

[austere cedar]

i went tactican for the pin

but iiiiiii dont know

[muted galleon]

guys is there a way for me to do something nasty with double wirlingslash I can trigger both of them at pmuch the same time

[austere cedar]

maybe ill contonue some more

[sonic peak]

what happens when you use twisters inside both

like

[muted galleon]

no idea

[sonic peak]

1 whirlind stage 1 should spawn 2 twisters

does it spawn 4 if you're inside 2 stage 1 ones?

[muted galleon]

leme chck

[sonic peak]

if so, you could maybe try to buff twister cast with barrage or smt and cast it inside 2 stage 3 whirling

should be fun

[frail sedge]

Please?

[dawn spire]

I mean, I can't do anything but recommend essence drain + contagion on every ascendancy rn

[muted galleon]

nah summns 3

[nimble hound]

Anyone unlock Tactician and can confirm these nodes work on turrets?

like in actual game, not theory

[gilded tangle]

Lich or Infernalist for minions now?

[dawn spire]

depends on the minions

[sonic peak]

does it only consume 1 of the whirlings then?

[gilded tangle]

Do you know what the strongest are?

[dawn spire]

warbringer, titan, gemling, tactician, and chrono are all on the table as well

[dawn spire]

not a clue

I don't think anyone does yet

[gilded tangle]

ayay

[muted galleon]

nah basically the only thing this does is I can recast whirling slas slightly quicker then if I had only 1 skill but ill do a bit more testing mb I can get both of them to trigger cause it does consume 2x mana but only gens if I click em at the same time

[sonic peak]

oh it doesn't let you have 2 separate whirlings on the ground

[muted galleon]

seems like it T-T

devs y

wanted to have a littel fun o well

[sonic peak]

well fuck, I think tame beast is bugged

I can't seem to mark any beasts with it

[dawn spire]

is it rare?

[sonic peak]

oh it needs to be rare

[nimble hound]

can someonse confirm this works on Ballistas?

[sonic peak]

ooo, spirit%

[nimble hound]

someone who actually tried it, no theory

[sonic peak]

that's kinda ass

[sand whale]

U can

[nimble hound]

I'm at work

and was lvl 5 last night lol

[nimble hound]

oh it's not good? so which class for ballistas you think

Gemling?

[sonic peak]

what

[nimble hound]

oh sorry I thought you were speaking to me

[sonic peak]

those are not ballistas, it's the tame beast gem

ah nono, was talking abt tame beast requiring spirit% instead of flat

[rough folio]

how can i use the same support gem in another skill gem

[sonic peak]

you can't

unless you're gemling

[rough folio]

useing Martial Tempo on spear stab was gonna jput it on Lighting spear

also

[compact tulip]

Is anyone familiar with this notable passive? Wording doesn't make any sense because it says armor AND evasion, not armor OR evasion

[sonic peak]

you can think of it as or

[late zinc]

Anyone got any ritualist build ?

[uneven osprey]

Play Amazon

[late zinc]

Don’t want to be like every one else

[sterile sierra]

For lich aschendencyt - has anyone tried the one that drains mana and is it playable or does it out "scale" the recovery?

[late zinc]

Everyone just doing Amazon

[uneven osprey]

Play different class

[sacred mica]

there's too much daddy bezos

[nimble hound]

i'm doing Mercenary for Ballista build. Not sure GEmling or Tactician yet tho.

[uneven osprey]

Ritualist is bad I’m telling you as I play Ritualist

So far ascendancy is rough

[uneven osprey]

Just do blood boil it give you addd clear

Then do ring after that only option is to eat people

[native bolt]

where to read all nerfs and buffes for 0.2?

why is everyone laughing when i say attributes stacker?

[sonic peak]

literally google search 'poe2 patch notes 0.2'

[atomic halo]

path of exile players if they could use google

[left vortex]

Is invoker still decent? everything else feels bad to play to me

[near jewel]

whats the best Warrior ascendnecy for totems ?

[sonic peak]

oh what the actual fuck

you can't release monsters from tame beast?

[marsh token]

yo does devastate support gem work with boneshatter? it says fully break armor when you heavy stun

[compact tulip]

bros 3 ring slots is soooooooo freakin nice

game changing

[sonic peak]

cock ring

[paper olive]

I already have 3 cock rings.

Necklace chained to plug is new meta

[stuck iris]

for a bleed huntress in act 2, what skill or skills do I want to add in addition to rake? particularily are there any ranged skills to consider?

[summer pasture]

Yes

I used it before speccing into armor break on heavy stun in the tree

[marsh token]

oh where is that on the tree?

[timber plover]

Any good witch builds out there? Haven’t ascended yet and seems like minions ain’t it

[dense laurel]

Does anyone know if cold snap can destroy ice walls?

[dense laurel]

Does it let you socket it?? Then yes, it's not rocket science

[marsh token]

i saw on reddit that it didnt work

was 3 months ago tho so maybe bug

[desert sparrow]

Any idea if poison or lighting ranger is more viable yet?

[sonic peak]

just play whichever you like most, it's not that hard to respec later on

[jagged wave]

sooooo many bugs on huntress, jesus...

[sonic peak]

don't think I've found any yet

other than disengage being inconsistent with the auto-aim like thing

[jagged wave]

perpetual charge can't be put to lightning frenzy charge skills. Twister doesn't scale from anything in the passive tree

also the disengage

[strange ivy]

how much did Explosive Arrow Deadeye got nerfed ?

[sonic peak]

wdym twister scales with projectile dmg

[feral abyss]

Does Shock Siphon support gem not exist anymore??

[sonic peak]

haven't tried perpetual

finding support gems has been kinda rough

[spice oak]

I am playing merc and intend to ascend as witch hunter, but despite the buffs the crossbow feels very clunky, someone in chat suggested to switch to spear for leveling, does it work on merc?

[jagged wave]

twister is attack, just put 10% attack damage node and nothing happened to dps

[steady flint]

Do we have a volatility skill gem or something?

[sonic peak]

let me check, I'll lvl up in a second

current dmg

[jagged wave]

wait

it refreshed

[compact haven]

Ranger.

Dedeye... Armour + Rating / Armour + Shield / Rating + Shield??? Which one use to be good? 🙂

[sonic peak]

def works

[jagged wave]

so it didn't go up when I was in act 2 but when I went to hideout it refreshed

lol

[sonic peak]

yeah that sometimes happened in 0.1 as well

[atomic halo]

whatever you do, make at least one of them evasion rating

[sonic peak]

the 'Shift' key on the tree is also broken

[atomic halo]

ranger has easy access to evasion stuff on the tree

[sonic peak]

but twister def scales with stuff

[atomic halo]

whether you just do evasion or mix with armour/es is your choice

[sonic peak]

I'll check perpetual as soon as I get a support gem... although I'm like, halfway through act 3 and I didn't get a single one since midway through act 2

[compact haven]

Thank u so much! That is helpfull enough. Have a nice weekend 😄

[plain matrix]

whats a good ignite thingie in this "league" ?

[oblique chasm]

Anything juicy emerged for merc yet? I made my first one and don't really have a plan for it.

[sonic peak]

just making sure, 'Block Recovery' means reducing the stun bar when active blocking/parrying right?

oh apparently it's only for the animation

btw... isn't incision really bad? I don't really see any benefit to it

[jagged wave]

well, if you using rake, it's worthless because rake always bleeds

but for some bow builds its really good

[sonic peak]

I mean even for stuff that doesn't always bleed

there's a support that grants 50% chance, and there's other nodes that grant chance based on crit

[azure wyvern]

is it me or whirling slash doesn't have any knockback?

both when attacking and when collapsing whirlwind

[latent dawn]

With infernalist flames thing (instead of mana) or Blood Magic, are you considered Full Mana at all times? or Low Mana? Or Neither?

[azure wyvern]

I don't see any knock back

[sonic peak]

I see 0 reason to use incision... other than some 'inc bleed magnitude when incised' nodes

but that's just annoying I think

I saw goratha made a vid abt huntress bleed... maybe he found something abt it I'm not seeing

I'll check it out later

(or he got baited by the initial description that made attacks deal more dmg )

[azure wyvern]

do anyone know if the crit damage bonus is set to 300% and can't be increased?

[feral abyss]

Can someone help me find the shock siphon support gem? I legit cant find it even with search

[hoary bolt]

doesnt exist

[feral abyss]

Huh, any reason they removed it?

[hoary bolt]

no idea honestly

[sudden basalt]

will this build work in the dawn of the hunt? or is it nerfed aswell? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/deadeye-gas-arrow-leveling-guide#gearing-header

[nimble hound]

good Chrono build atm?

[chrome vale]

build for fast clearing and easy leveling - what do you suggest guys? i got stuck with minions doing literally nothing

[atomic halo]

yes, that's what the item is designed to do.

[old ermine]

Anyone know any good chrono setups for 0.2.0?

[steady flint]

Do we have any good self dmg synergies?

[tidal birch]

Do we already know, if there is a "best" leveling spec for Amazon? It seems like there are 2 builds the vortex, ice, tornado one and the bleed focused build. I saw ds_lily play the bleed one, and she said it was a horrible experience. The vortex one seems super clunky, like spark but you need 5 button presses to get 1 spark off.

[honest storm]

whats more broken, twisters or glacial bolt auto explode from artillery ballista?

[pseudo jay]

does the kitava minion living weapon also trigger the fire spell on hit when it attacks?

[lime narwhal]

so does profusion just not work with disengage? haven't got 2 charges a single time

[summer pasture]

Based off the wording it is set to 300% so you can't increase it

[austere cedar]

im totally not liking this patch like AT all

no build is fun

it was WAY more fun at release

[shadow blade]

Is damage really bad across the board? Thinking of xbow tactician pinning build

Heard xbow got buffs so hopefully feels as good as before? Compared to others who got merked

[alpine yacht]

Anyone try to use a spear with deadeye frenzy charges?

[solid badger]

Is this in the game yet?

[sharp glade]

no

[swift aspen]

@deft osprey how’s your physical caster doing?

[hushed obsidian]

question, do dot effects snapshot the damage mods of the weapon set they were casted with?

[austere cedar]

yeah im not playing this patch, they slowed the game down way too much to my liking

[subtle vigil]

For anyone who cares; Bloodthief Queen spawns wasps that are hostile to you on a long-ish cooldown, can trigger on kill effects. Spawns friendly wasps when it dies as well.

[twilit cairn]

any1 got a good build guide they can link for huntress ?

[glacial pike]

Fub gun is using this and seems pretty strong

[viscid sail]

i dont understand... so bleeding only lasts 1 second? so why is this good for bleeding? (if it is)

[glacial pike]

Base meaning it starts out lasting that long so I if you increase duration by 10 percent it’s 1.1 seconds

[swift aspen]

Does extra damage work with non-ailment (chaos) damage over time?

Like the 11% extra chaos damage node

Does it affect essence drain

[atomic halo]

no

gain as extra is a form of conversion; conversion only applies to hits.

the hit portion of ed will gain damage; the damage over time portion will not.

[left vortex]

is anyone playing ritualist?

[gray ferry]

how's Armor + Evasion hybrid 🤔 does it hold up or is pure evasion usually preferred?

[sturdy notch]

Man my huntress is doing like no damage to jamanra

Have been trying out multiple combos. Not really happy with any.

Felt like act 1 was a breeze. Act 2 been a slog. So I must not be scaling well. Anybody have something they're happy with?

[dire flare]

can someone explain to me how raise spectre is suppose to work? I have the gem and I cant use on unique, I cant use on yellow and none of the white mobs I want to use it on can be raised. im level24

[deft osprey]

I switched to chaos, tested on my standard char. Went ok. Trying the new frost tech now

[swift aspen]

what's the new frost tech? i have a super silly idea, but i'm waiting for specific gear to test

also chaos atm just to blast thru campaign and level

[nimble hound]

What Chrono build is still powerful

everythign seems gutted for everyone. I know ballistas are great now tho in general

[noble token]

i had the same issue
highest dmg combo i found was rapid assault and explosive spesr with expedite and overabundance

and inspiration on RA if you have mana issues

[late fiber]

Is it between lich and huntress for meta rn? I only play meta lmao

[noble token]

that + 75% lightning res (lucky gear) got ne through it

[noble token]

theres no meta yet

people are melting down for now

but amazon and lich have high pick rates

[dawn spire]

if anyone claims to know the meta, you're being hustled

[noble token]

afaik

[vital plume]

best to just wait a few days for meta tbh. what im doing cus cba starting a character and it ends up being awful to play, did that last time with bm

[noble token]

yeah

[late fiber]

Hmmm

Idk tho

I wanna play lmao

I doubt they hard nerf anything else

[vital plume]

would rather wait a bit to play and play something good and fun, than waste my time leveling a class to find out its ass and then level a meta character

[late fiber]

I don’t see anything insanely broken

[quasi sinew]

dunno what to play, i need ideas

[dawn spire]

they don't tend to do massive nerfs mid-league

[dawn spire]

chaos dot is actually bonkers imo

[quasi sinew]

really? ed + contagion is one of my fav

[dawn spire]

it's so strong rn

[quasi sinew]

why?

[late fiber]

Honestly

Second time I’ve seen this

I’ll go with it

Fuck it

[dawn spire]

they added zenith support
they buffed the DoT of ED by like 50%

[vital plume]

i mean they wont change anything much from now tbh

[dawn spire]

they made lich

[quasi sinew]

oh, i didn't see the ed buff in the patch notes

[dawn spire]

it was in the global "we changed a bunch of skills" section

but wasn't mentioned specifically

they only listed the changed to spirit and support gems

I think

wait, no, I think the ED one was just undocumented

[quasi sinew]

yep

k then, i'll give it a shot

[azure wyvern]

will this increase presence area?

[bronze shale]

is amazon really the ascendancy to take? i love the nodes in ritualist but evewryoners saying run crit

[nimble hound]

how is your Chronomancer doing?

[median kraken]

I think Amazon is the much more straightforward one while Ritualist is more something you build around

[dawn spire]

this isn't representative of the entire leveling spectrum of ED, but at level 1, ED went from 8 damage per second to 19.7

[median kraken]

Not sure how they compare in terms of overall power

[swift aspen]

no, there are specific nodes for presence and they are limited

[dawn spire]

ripped to the big bone devourer in act 2, rerolled and now I'm at the start of act 2 again. same build

[vale pewter]

Is mobalytics or maxroll better for looking at builds

[dawn spire]

they're both pretty much equally clueless at this point

[bronze shale]

does anyone have a rituialist build to help guide? i have all the passives for bleed

sorry if thats asking alot

[vale pewter]

Ah, just made a new monk and wondering what leveling build I should do

[dawn spire]

I'd recommend rake + stomping ground + brutality lmao

[late fiber]

Yea I’ve slowly been narrowing down to find strongest builds rn

Went from ranger,lich,amazon to - lich and hunter to chaos lich and lights spear huntress

Now I just gotta decide

[patent shell]

right now im playing rake with stomping ground which helps alot but what do i focus for now on ? i feel like shockwave is doing the most dmg here so should i focus on stacking strenght ? to increase dmg of shockwave ? or focus on bleeding for rake dmg ? ????

[dawn spire]

for leveling, str is king, yeah. It's mostly a stepping stone to whatever you want to do with your build

[dawn spire]

how far have you gotten?

you're playing hc,r ight?

[patent shell]

ye and for endgame ? does shockwave work with the bleed effect of rake ? like does it trigger his own bleed or does it do bleed dmg of rake + shockwave combined ? or does only rake do bleed dmg at this point ?

[dawn spire]

extra damage sources like stomping ground don't inherit rake's bleed chance as far as I'm aware

[pseudo jay]

guys how will this recoup work? in a sense that.. will it basically make all my % dmg taken recoup as life to be dmg taken recouped as ES ? or will it make the recovery that i have per second on life also apply to ES?

[wispy ruin]

im thinking about playing spear with the fire skills and the twister, but i would love to generate frenzy charges but how do i generate them easily?

[vale pewter]

Is there a good site or thread showcasing monk invoker leveling on 0.2? Since websites are kinda behind

[wispy ruin]

because it would be good to use the detonate spear to detonate instantly

[dawn spire]

if you would recoup 50 life over X seconds, you will instead recoup 50 life and 50 ES over X seconds

[pseudo jay]

i see but even if life is full you would still recover the ES right?

[dawn spire]

as long as you're taking damage, yes

if you lose ES due to damage taken, you will recoup that

[pseudo jay]

sad that it has such a low ES base but i guess the recoup would be really nice as chrono ES

[dawn spire]

yeah I didn't know that chest existed and now I'm really excited to try to chance it on my CI chrono

[pseudo jay]

what happens if you take CI?

[dawn spire]

I believe it would still work

[pseudo jay]

should work

[dawn spire]

you don't need to take damage to life to recoup life

[vale pewter]

I just don’t wanna waste my skill points or gems

[pseudo jay]

ya i think this could be a nice chest for chrono CI again its sad that the ES is sooo low and the rest of the chest is so bad.. but life is just awful and life + mana = perma being stunned

[dawn spire]

skill points and gems are sooooo easy to swap later on (as long as you don't add quality or sockets to your gems)

[fossil silo]

Does anyone know if Elemental dmg work well with Pin buildup or not?

[dawn spire]

any damage that can pin pins equally well regardless of type

[carmine flicker]

life still awful?

[vale pewter]

I’m kinda new so idk what that really means, what are quality / sockets?

[pseudo jay]

worse than it was last league tbh

[fossil silo]

oh so if i take the notes of Tatician and playing Explosive Grenade it still works well right

[carmine flicker]

so my decision to start kitava's smith was bad one?

[dawn spire]

then you have nothing to worry about. You can add quality and sockets to skill gems later on (usually at the start of act 3 or so, I wanna say, maybe later). Once you add that, swapping a gem becomes a bit of pain

[pseudo jay]

i started as kitava and quit it

[carmine flicker]

at what lvl? and why?

[pseudo jay]

now i consider either chrono Es or quit untill next patch

[sacred storm]

does necromatic conduits unholy might buff effect Dots?

[pseudo jay]

low because i saw videos of the class and the hammer smite skill

and its unuseable

[sturdy notch]

Haha let's go they are dropping monster health

[carmine flicker]

what about cast on hit and animate weapon ones?

[dawn spire]

not necessarily. Life was only bad in 0.1 because big physical hits were incredibly hard to mitigate because of how bad armour was (and ES was fine because unga bunga huge ES pool). Smith of Kitava lets you negate like 22.5% of physical hits, so going life with smith isn't nearly as bad as going, say, life titan in 0.1

[pseudo jay]

maybe they shgould consider drop the stun aswell

[sturdy notch]

"boy people are getting their asses kicked because we nerfed things to all hell"

The stun and ailments are so rough

I'm bleeding out

[carmine flicker]

22.5% mitigation isn't that exciting against random blue mod doing 8k slam

[pseudo jay]

cast on hit is bad.. . becuse it only trigger fire spell but the only fire spell you have is fireball

[carmine flicker]

or 16k slam..

[dawn spire]

show me a blue mob doing an 8k slam

[vale pewter]

Ok, so for now gems / skill points don’t really matter? I can just do whatever

[pseudo jay]

this is the worst part of it all... it feels just bad to be perma slowed/stunned/frozen or die to constant ignites

[carmine flicker]

idk what they were called, at t16 last "league" one of those mobs slammed my 14k ES or smth infernalist to death in one hit

[dawn spire]

It's a weird bell curve.
They matter a lot during, say, act 1. That's when you haven't really started the engine. Then during acts, like, 2-4/5, it's super easy. Gems are dropping like candy and you have enough gold to respec and respecs are cheap.
Then later on it's still easy to respec passives, but if you've added quality/sockets to gems, those become more painful to replace. But you still won't have TOO many gems with quality/extra sockets so it won't be awful

[sturdy notch]

I dunno. I didn't find the campaign a breeze originally. I'm not sure the campaign needed to be harder. T16 deleting 10m dps builds? Sure maybe those are fine to go.

[unborn tendon]

guys for a bleed huntress with unnerfed ingenuity ritualist or amazon

[vale pewter]

I’m on the start of act 1 rn, just made a new character with some friends

I’m just a big overthinker when making builds lol

[dawn spire]

if you're playing with friends it's even easier, actually. You can trade around extra gems to try stuff

[green talon]

tempest bell at 10 combo points was stupid long

glad it's going back

[pseudo jay]

they should go back on many decisions tbh idk why so many skills simply feel bad to play even if they are strong

[dawn spire]

if it was a slam that was meant to be dodged, had extra chaos, crit, and had other nasty mods, that kinda makes sense

[lapis ermine]

why is the huntress tree differnt in mobalyticsthan ingame

[vale pewter]

My friends are kinda greedy with gems tbh

[near timber]

BABY WE ARE SO BACK

[sturdy notch]

I don't have enough gems ..because I'm trying too many different combos to get this huntress to have enough single Target DPS

[twin crystal]

is it good for lich without summons? https://poe2db.tw/us/The_Wicked_Quill (100% spell dmg)

[high rivet]

what modifiers work on thorns damage? i assume physical damage, does damage as extra type work on it too?

[dawn spire]

well at least if you're playing with friends and you pick a "bad" gem you can get carried by them

[vale pewter]

true i am usually getting carried, i just have a slight fear of messing up my build since idk what im doing

[dawn spire]

seems pretty shit compared to a +level, cast speed, %damage wand

[high rivet]

cause im wanting to do thorns after seeing it has life steal on it, and 100% chance to ignore enemy armor (or you could break their armor since it now can do ailments)

[carmine flicker]

I refuse to dodge BLUE MOBS
they aren't important enough

[dawn spire]

that's a poe1 mentality

gonna get you killed out here

[carmine flicker]

(it didn't help that is was one of those sreen-long slam, so I didn't expect it to shot me sreen-afar)

[twin crystal]

drop me at 2 act soo xd

[dawn spire]

it might be usable, depends on what you're currently using

[carmine flicker]

I will either find a way to play this game how I want to play it or quit

[dawn spire]

those are your only options, yeah

[carmine flicker]

why would I bother with game that I must play the way I don't like to play?

[dawn spire]

I don't know

[high rivet]

you dont

[dawn spire]

I don't know why reddit is full of people who wish poe2 was poe1

[twin crystal]

all chaos, drain, contangion, effigy, blasphemy

[dawn spire]

I meant what you're using for a weapon

[high rivet]

my thing is that 0.1 poe2 was distinct enough from poe1, and had a few outliers in terms of performance

[carmine flicker]

cause those people wish new league and hate POE2 for denying it

[high rivet]

but otherwise felt awesome

[carmine flicker]

well, then you will like 0.2 even more

[high rivet]

but ggg tends to overnerf in my opinion, spark didnt just get like, half damage, its like less than 10% i bet

[high rivet]

im not

i rerolled into ED, and its bearable now

[dawn spire]

this isn't the place for poe1 vs poe2, but I'm having a blast with poe2 and it reminds me of the old times in poe1

ED is also kinda bonkers, yeah

[high rivet]

does anyone know though

how thorns scales?

[dawn spire]

what do you mean how it scales?

[high rivet]

like i get physical damage, thorns damage affects it

[dawn spire]

it does what it says on the box

[carmine flicker]

how old exactly? I played like from 1.3 patch

[high rivet]

but do any other modifiers work on it?

such as damage as extra fire for example

[alpine yacht]

has anyone used spear with deadeye for consuming frenzy charges to be doubled? how dose that effect spear skills like Glacial Lance?

[dawn spire]

I played before the first league, when you did acts 1-3 (only up to piety) three times before maps

[carmine flicker]

I play that stomping ground meta lvling build now, idk, it kinda works

[carmine flicker]

same

[high rivet]

yeah i get that, and it appears that damage as extra would work on it, but it may not so i wanted to make sure

[carmine flicker]

and well
it was all "MoM+EB" meta all around.. you know
like 0.1 POE2

literally same experience
except POE1 had no archmage

[high rivet]

yeah i read that

im saying, i assume those mods work for it

but im not sure

[dawn spire]

what source of extra damage, specifically?

[high rivet]

gain % of damage as extra fire for example

i dont see why it wouldnt

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure either. Where are you getting that from?

[high rivet]

but theres been things before that werent what i assumed for POE calculations

[dawn spire]

like this on the passive tree?

[high rivet]

yeah thats a good example

[pseudo jay]

how will the increse spell dmg interact with duration skills here? lets say i stack alot of % then use a chaos dot skill will the bonus remain for the duration of the skill? or update live and get reduced as you lose the stacks/cost?

[dawn spire]

I've been trying to figure this out, myself. I'm not sure if the damage snapshots or not. I've been playing around with zenith support to try to investigate

[pseudo jay]

do you mind tag me and elt me know whe you do figure this out?

[quasi flint]

Any good league starters? Spear warrior kinda sucks

[grave iron]

What are the best spectres in terms of aoe buffs and auras ? What about damage wise ?
So far , my original skeletons deal more damage.

[dawn spire]

I'll do my best

[dawn spire]

chaos dot (essence drain+contagion) on anyone

[quasi flint]

weren't these giga ass

[dawn spire]

yeah, but then they got a massive buff

[quasi flint]

stealth buff?

[dawn spire]

yep

ED got buffed by like 50% or something

the DoT did, at least

[gilded tangle]

Hello,

any spectre mob tips? Act2?

[dawn spire]

don't use them

[gilded tangle]

Why?

[dawn spire]

if you're asking for tips, it means you don't know which ones are good for your build. So either experiment and try a bunch, or check out whcih one(s) are good for you

[quasi flint]

Has there been anything with a similar playstyle to traps/mines yet?

[dawn spire]

and since you're asking for tips, I assumed you don't want to experiment or don't know which ones are good

in which case, it might be best to just not use spectres

for you

[gilded tangle]

Im at act 2 minions

there arent alot of variety exactly

[dawn spire]

grenades are the closest and they're still pretty far

[quasi flint]

rip

[dawn spire]

another reason to not use them yet

[quasi flint]

I guess EDC it is

Because good god spears suck

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality is good for early leveling

[quasi flint]

I was doing Whirlwind+Twister+Frostbolt

[carmine flicker]

So.. "if you don't know you don't deserve to know"? Lol

[quasi flint]

the damage was good but that's like 5 buttons

[jolly coral]

Does anyone know to how to replace the current tamed beast ??

[dawn spire]

they asked for tips and no one has a full compendium of spectres yet

there aren't any tips to hand out

I'd maybe ask in ghazzy's stream

[gilded tangle]

Well tbh

It was a simple question

if there are any good spectres for leveling

and yuor answer is ironicly bad

consdering u got a "helpful" tag

[old rune]

lmao, people saying huntress is weak are trippin

[carmine flicker]

True
But that's different answer that "if you don't want to experiment you better don't use skill!"

[dawn spire]

yeah, I could have elaborated more, my b

But imo, the best thing to do with spectres is to either try all of them in a 0.1 character with tons of gems, or not touch them at all

[sharp glade]

the tag doesnt mean much

[gilded tangle]

Yes, i can see that xD

ah np

[dawn spire]

because every time you bind a spectre, you lose that gem

[jolly coral]

Hi does anyone know how to replace a captured tamed beast ??

[dawn spire]

it's terrible to try them out in hunt league

[old rune]

lmfao ignore the watermark I didn't even knew it was there

[carmine flicker]

Oo?

[jolly coral]

Hi does anyone know how to replace a captured tamed beast ??

FFS no one knows lol

[dawn spire]

yeah, when you bind a spectre, that gem becomes "Summon spectre of X"

and you can't change it

[carmine flicker]

Damn that's shit, lol

[dawn spire]

hence my tip being, "don't use them" lmao

[carmine flicker]

And I did think spectre bank in poe1 was bad

[dawn spire]

I think it's the same as spectres. you're stuck with it in that gem

"transforming the gem"

[carmine flicker]

This league is really global nerf, QoL included

[dawn spire]

I kinda like it

it's like pokemon

[sharp glade]

% spiritd cost = garbage

[jolly coral]

Well do you have to upgrade the gem to swap ??

[dawn spire]

you can remove the gem and cut a new one

[jolly coral]

Or you stuck with same beast forever ??

[carmine flicker]

Buying 20/20 spectre gem would be hard

[frail sedge]

Any idea for a caster build for ritualist? I'm thinking if there's any way to make a good use of the ascendancy's 20% phys damage + ring slot+ blood boil and maybe the life recovery for a wand/sceptre build

Im thinking of phys dmg spells or converting phys to something else

But idk where to start

[sharp terrace]

any usable minions for campaign? Tried the arsonist and regular warriors but their dps is beyond awful. SRS would probably scale decently if I could level it but I can't until act 3 since it's a spirit gem. I also tried a lost-man spectre but it doesn't do much either.

[quasi flint]

Sorry but any ascendancies exceptionally good for EDC?

[dawn spire]

lich is probably the stand-out for offense

I'm going chrono for tankiness

[quasi flint]

Can you sell me on chrono

I never got the appeal

seems like a very inconsistent ascendancy

[dawn spire]

temporal rift is the last good way to restore ES

everything going 20% slower is pog

[sharp glade]

meditate?

[dawn spire]

though, tbf, they lowered presence radius so that's less good now

[dawn spire]

I said "Good" way

[sharp glade]

meditate+recharge focus weaponswap

should fill up real quick

[dawn spire]

tbh I haven't read meditate too closely

not sure how it compares

[sharp glade]

it overcharges too

[dawn spire]

invoker is also not great for chaos dot

[lament rock]

Hi yall, nooby question. If my weapon does lightning damage. My skill should be able to shock correct? so if i gem said skill with conduction (100% chance to shock) shouldn't that skill be able to guarantee shock? or does this have something to do with alignment threshold of the target?

[sharp glade]

then dont play chaos dot

[dawn spire]

yeah, the monk ascendancies are just pretty garbo for chaos dot

they asked me to sell them on chrono

for chaos dot

[quasi flint]

I heard lich was garbo

then again I heard everything was garbo

[dawn spire]

it's not 100% chance to shock, it's 100% increased chance to shock. It basically doubles your base chance

[carmine flicker]

so I got it right, stormping/rake and ed/c are only good choices as far as lvling go, nothing else really good?

[dawn spire]

Hold alt and click on the shock keyword to read more about how shock works

[dawn spire]

As someone who has not watched any streams and only played stuff or seen stuff here, yes. Those are the only two I have empirical evidence of being good

[carmine flicker]

that summ it up, really

[lament rock]

Thank you!

[left vortex]

does bleed huntress (ritualist) stay viable into maps does anyone know?

bcs im about to ascend and i want to go ritualist but im scared it wont have any builds in maps

[still rock]

have americans figured out the twister build yet? just went yoinking on the koreans and theyre mostly playing spear with whirling slash barrage twister

makes like 500 tornadoes

[carmine flicker]

lich have a problem
you either go es or mana/life
and with ES your mana regen is based on life, so you can't even go CI

[wide edge]

Guys, is there a way to self-ignite?

[sinful hatch]

Radiant grief?

[wide edge]

I am looking on ritualist and Beira's Anguish

Might be an interesting build idea

[sinful hatch]

Not self but igniting enemies around you

[lethal depot]

any point in going smith or is titan the way still

[wide edge]

Just was thinking about this

[wide edge]

Yep, needs specifically self-ignite 😄

Have not found a way myself so asking, maybe I missed smth

[sinful hatch]

Youll run out of mana pretty fast?

😂😂😂

[wide edge]

Depends. If you have enough mana regen and more or less controllable self-ignite (say by pressing specific skill), and enough ignite duration - you do not need to trigger it too often

Thus you can control your mana

[copper portal]

did anyone try out warrior + spear?

can you work the spear without a buckler?

the skills i mean

[wide edge]

Spear skills mostly need frenzy charges to really work
Thus you need a reliable way to generate em

[alpine yacht]

has anyone used spear with deadeye for consuming frenzy charges to be doubled? how dose that effect spear skills like Glacial Lance?

[heady palm]

does inc % chaos damage increase my poison damage?

[wide edge]

yes

[heady palm]

ty

[carmine flicker]

btw, does raise beast + raise spectre means that summoners would be most interesting build this league?

[wide edge]

Tho be careful - for example 'inc chaos dmg from attacks' or 'inc chaos dmg from spells' will not affect poison itself, as it is an ailment

[heady palm]

im just speccing this for poisonburst / vine arrwo

[pseudo jay]

does unholy might works on dot? or its only on hit?

[wide edge]

Spectre will always be a white version of the mob, regardless of the rarity of the corpse

[high rivet]

is seismic cry a hit?

would it be able to extract impale

[wide edge]

This will work, yes

[sweet gale]

Hey, das skill speed effect weapon swap speed?

[nimble hound]

someone reccomend me a skill to use from low lvl that makes me not want to just go play other games

dont think i ever played a game thsi slow

[carmine flicker]

many people wanted slow action-rpg with meaningful and engaging combat

[nimble hound]

oh it feels like dog shit to me

and I play elden ring with difficulty mods thats way faster lol

[carmine flicker]

if you want smth fast - play POE1
(really, it's not sarcasm)

[nimble hound]

how about in between

like patch .10

[carmine flicker]

what skill did you use btw?

[wicked tree]

What's good defense this patch? I wanna play Huntress , but is evasion enough? I remember everyone wanted ES last time

[wide edge]

Oooookay
New plan

[carmine flicker]

cause afaik in 0.2 you play essence drain, rake+stomping ground(last part is 99% of damage) or.. well, suffer

[wicked tree]

Obv I need resistances

[static plinth]

Gonna warn you now Beira's is probably not good

[nimble hound]

,contagion

someoen told me its the best

[static plinth]

Actually they raised it to 500% so maybe honestly

[carmine flicker]

contagion is just how ED spread

[nimble hound]

What skill should I use to level up as Chronomancer

[carmine flicker]

main damage is essence drain

[static plinth]

15000 flat damage ignite, even with no % more from supports should eb decent

[wide edge]

Thats at least worth checking 😄
I do love making stupid builds, and they do sometimes work

[static plinth]

Idk if thats worth building around though

[carmine flicker]

you debuff smth with contagion, shoot essence drain on it, watch things melt

[dry pagoda]

if you play spear you will also have passive block by default. I think evasion + energy shield is best unless you build something specific around uniques

[nimble hound]

if i picked the wrong skill should i reroll

since im stuck now and have no gems

[carmine flicker]

just.. take skill gem and make yourself second skill?

[nimble hound]

how do i get another one

[heady palm]

you will drop plenty more gems, and get them from quests

[nimble hound]

i'm stuck tho

[carmine flicker]

drop it from random mob

[wide edge]

Also thats specifically says 'ignite', not smth like 'are ignited', which in theory means the source is you
As such your increases and reductions to ignite should work on it.
So you actually need high HP, ignite magnitude/duration/fire dmg, and a reliable source of crit

[carmine flicker]

or make second character if you are like.. lvl 3 or smth

[verbal totem]

Had good luck with arsonists exploding srs

[heady palm]

stuck how

[wicked tree]

Ok right on, I'm playing HCSSF and keep dying before finishing act 1, it's because I'm trying out parry fairly often and learning the hard way what works and doesn't lol

[dry pagoda]

learning parry in hc sounds miserable haha

[nimble hound]

ok i fixed my toon

[sharp terrace]

tried doing that too but the dps still fell off in act 2 :/ think ill just respec to chaos somethign

[static plinth]

How viable is playing around stun late game?

[verbal totem]

Huh guess I'll have to see, just got to boneyards and it's managing so far

[static plinth]

Stuff like Ruthless makes it feel like im doing enough that i ccould get through the recently stunned stun defence

[ruby patio]

Anybody on pc can tell me what quality gives rake?

[wide edge]

gives what?

[ruby patio]

What affect quality has on rake*

[dry pagoda]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Rake

[wide edge]

Hold alt while hovering over skill

[dry pagoda]

yeah or use that wiki

[wide edge]

Ah
XBox
That makes sence, sorry 😄

[ruby patio]

Preesh

[nimble hound]

Anyone find a OP interaction with Unleash on Chrono yet?

[halcyon solar]

Where can you exchange currency, when you don't have an hideout yet? Act 2 gambler doesn't offer that.

[static plinth]

Act 1 Cruel gambler

[wide edge]

Also, a mechanical question.
If ignite duration on you is reduced by 100%, can you still be ignited for the purpose of 'when you are ignited' interactions?

[patent shell]

where do i get the rest 25 % ?

[wide edge]

Any skill which has fire conversion of 25% and above

For example

[patent shell]

what about other sources ? like jewels or items =?

[copper portal]

skill gem?

[wide edge]

Well, IN THEORY possible option

[atomic halo]

nowhere

its literally only the gloves

[wide edge]

I am not sure there are other ways to convert to fire

[atomic halo]

maybe there is another pair of gloves

[nimble hound]

spell cascade any good?

[static plinth]

The gloves also arent very good for that

[atomic halo]

there was a new one with some sort of conversion but i forgot which elements

[static plinth]

Fire to Lightning

Valako's Vice i think

[wide edge]

Does not exist in PoE2

Ah, that one

[static plinth]

right

[patent shell]

only the unique gloves or is there also other gloves cause i feel like this gonna fuck up my avatar of fire no ?

[static plinth]

Painter's will give you 108% of ele to fire and 33% to one of the other elements

Cuz you cant convert one element to itself

Idk how to round down overcapped conversion though

Its probably worth it to just bite the bullet and take 25% less damage

[patent shell]

well my plan was to create a build with fire spell on hit and the trigger or energy buildup is triple shockwave per second with rake and convert shockwave dmg into fire dmg and also get some attackspeed for more energy buildup and more trigger i guess ? also im strg stacking

[nimble hound]

i never played a caster before does 2h staff matter vs 1h and offhand

[dry pagoda]

does avatar of fire override the gloves or do the gloves override avatar?

[static plinth]

Neither since they dont affect the same damage type

Non-fire becomes fire, but any unconverted fire damage you have gets converted to lightning and thus deals 0

[atomic halo]

avatar of fire sucks

[carmine flicker]

is tame beast affected by minion nodes btw?

[dry pagoda]

yeah I must have misread the discussion, thats what I thought ^^

[orchid minnow]

@carmine flicker yes, has the minion tag

[tidal birch]

first two support gems for contagion and essence drain?

[dawn spire]

yes

[old oriole]

has there been any new skill that works amazing with chronomancer?

[magic marlin]

This does bring up the question, I had a nice Sorc - Fireball/Icewall. It did eventually go CoF-Comet which like sucks now. Didn't use Archmage. Would the Stormweaver nerfs hit too hard to try rebuilding it?

[dawn spire]

I would do persistence and magnified effect on contagion
Chain and zenith on essence drain. If you want, you can do swift affliction instead of chain. I just like the comfiness of chain early on

[dawn spire]

ice wall has a longer cooldown now and fireball can't get more projectiles that intended from stuff like this node

[orchid minnow]

If we assume all hits I do are lucky, how much more damage is that compared to normal hits?

[dawn spire]

but otherwise untouched as far as I know

[dawn spire]

depends on your damage range

if your range is normally 25-75, then your normal average is 50 and your lucky average is 58.33, or about 17% more damage

[patent shell]

i found something

[dawn spire]

if your range is 1-99, your normal average is 50 and your lucky average is 66.33, or 33% more damage

[magic marlin]

@dawn spire Thanks, I missed the Fireball nerf. Might try and see

[orchid minnow]

you use the formula (min+2*max)/3 ?

[dawn spire]

it can still get extra projectiles, but only on the initial cast, I think. When fireball splits, it can no longer generate extra projectiles at that step, if I read the notes correctly

[dawn spire]

yep

if you're lucky, you add the max twice when taking the average

[orchid minnow]

because I see in the example formula on the wiki divided by 6 and dunno why

[dawn spire]

for unlucky, add the min twice

I think they might have been summing the min and max together

[orchid minnow]

yeah, looks like it now that I look closer

[magic marlin]

Ah they still reference Wildshards, so maybe...

[orchid minnow]

So I can assume the higher the difference between min and max, the higher my damage increase? That would be perfect for my idea :D

[old rune]

any ideas on how can I make this work decently enough on my huntress?

[static plinth]

Not in the game

Thats a Militant Faith node from 1

[compact mountain]

Guys, is STR the main stat for a spear Huntress ?

[orchid minnow]

Str/Dex mix if you want to use spears

[compact mountain]

Thanks

[dawn spire]

if you're using stomping ground, it scales directly off your str, so that's more important

[compact mountain]

Right

[patent shell]

https://youtu.be/CCoNij9kiwM

[copper portal]

is it even possible to build a viable build for shield + spear on a warrior? i am thinking block warrior + spear, but do the spear skills require a buckler?

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality

[dawn spire]

spear skills do not require a buckler

[nimble hound]

Top ladder players both using spark + orb of storm

[dawn spire]

lmao

[static plinth]

Some of the spear skills require Parry which is only for buckler but the majority dont

[copper portal]

wow seems like warbringer spear and shield might be the way to go

[old oriole]

#did we get a similar skill to asala's lightning?

[solid dragon]

Could i get some input on Gemling vs Titan for a wind blast build?

Gemling would make gearing a lot easier with the stats, plus some free gem quality and extra armor breaking with the double supports.

Titan would be a bit tankier and "less" gear locked with the boost to the passives