2┃build-planning

[dawn spire]

but it's apparently different than cry

[tranquil star]

Can hits with 'Crushing Blows' bypass the cannot stun of Brink?

[dawn spire]

no

[tranquil star]

I want to assume not

Oke

[carmine flicker]

so 5x your life as base damage?

[dawn spire]

2.5x

[carmine flicker]

50% and 10 stacks..

[dawn spire]

I don't think that one stacks

oh

I need to read more

yeah that thing might be nuts if you can actually block

[young hinge]

my acolyte is going to get like 400% gain dmg as extra cold when i use glacial cascade guys lol

[carmine flicker]

yeah, it's not reliale tho and can't use supports

[young hinge]

i think im going to 1 shot every boss in the game

[azure wyvern]

do totems have their own presence?

[dawn spire]

maybe, but I don't know of anything that would affect anything in a totem's presence

[old ermine]

Is the warrior ascendancy in the game yet?

[azure wyvern]

like if I had this helmet on and I would summon a totem. Would the totem copy the passive ability?

[craggy ice]

no

[carmine flicker]

what ability?
presence one?

if they are in YOUR presence they are low life for your totem too, ofc

[visual warren]

ritual sacrifice is basically headhunter buff yeah?

[static plinth]

Yes but only 1 modifier not all

Er

Wait no it is all modifiers isnt it

[frank iron]

Is anyone following fubguns guide?

[charred linden]

Im a huntress Can i do anything with this?

[dawn spire]

all classes can use all skills and gear

[charred linden]

No like is it good? after nerfs?

[static plinth]

Pillar got hit bad but statstacking got hit worse

Its probably usable but nowhere near what it was last patch

[frank iron]

anyone following fubguns ranger/huntress guide??

[dawn spire]

if you have a question, probly better to just ask it

[tender needle]

what are u guys doing on huntress to do dmg act2+?

[cobalt pollen]

rake brutality does a little too much dmg right now

and stomping ground

I'm oneshotting all the act1 bosses

practically

[frail tide]

starting brand new class what feels strong endgame boys

[dawn spire]

most people started fresh, so no idea

[dawn spire]

what's your weapon looking like?

[cobalt pollen]

I don't even feel like this is because I'm warrior and theres a bunch of melee nodes

[dawn spire]

you haven't even transmuted your spear?

[cobalt pollen]

just stomping ground and brutality

[olive compass]

Guys did they do anything on the armor? Is it the same?

[dawn spire]

the armor formula is the same

and they didn't add much to the tree as far as I can tell

tactician has a nice node for armor tho

[olive compass]

So it should still be kinda bad?

[dawn spire]

can't say for sure yet

[cobalt pollen]

ok now I have 17% phys

[civic tide]

There are so many projecticle nodes for huntress but the rare spear I picked up doesn't allow projecticles LMAO

[cobalt pollen]

no way this doesn't get patched

every act1 boss ever since I got rake has been like this

[dawn spire]

what skill and supports?

[cobalt pollen]

.

[dawn spire]

what skill?

rake?

[cobalt pollen]

yeah

stomping ground lets you shotgun 3 aoes

all they would have to do is make it so rake doesn't proc stomping ground this much somehow

[fallow tulip]

do you guys think Volley is worth going into the minion side of the tree?

[dawn spire]

how much str do you have?

[cobalt pollen]

25

[dawn spire]

hm, maybe it's just really good early with that amount of str. If you don't keep getting str it's gonna fall off real fast

[cobalt pollen]

its still a little too brainless for act 1 still

[static plinth]

Hey, they completely changed how Trinity works didnt they?

[cobalt pollen]

but I plan to ride this high until it gets outscaled

[static plinth]

Now its Resonance like PoE1 instead of being a rotating buff

or wait is it new

[hybrid ocean]

Has anybody made anything of the new on-hit skills?

[static plinth]

no im thinking of Elemental Conflux

[dawn spire]

can you be more specific?

[mortal shore]

Im not liking bleed build kinda boring spaming rake on everything

[static plinth]

Since Rapid Assault is a Strike it can build Combo, right?

[hybrid ocean]

"Fire/lightning spell on hit"

meant to elaborate but got distracted, mb

Yet another thing that feels like it's pushing attack/spell hybrid builds, but idk if there's sufficient support for it

This is granted by Smith of Kitava

And there's a hammer that gives the same for lightning

[dawn spire]

yeah I'm not watching any streams and I'm not playing it so I have no idea

[static plinth]

Looks decent at first glance

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, figures.

[static plinth]

Can get 100% increased energy gain and it scales with the damage the hit deals

[hybrid ocean]

idk, scaling with the hit damage feels like a downside

since now you need to scale both attack and spell damage

[static plinth]

Youd want to scale fire damage

Not attack or spell

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah

[static plinth]

Also Crown of Eyes exists now i believe

[hybrid ocean]

Gotta do either elemental type or generic

[static plinth]

So you just scale spell damage

[steady flint]

Do we have any list of new uniques yet or?

[static plinth]

Im not 100% sure though

[static plinth]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_uniques

Not all of them

[hybrid ocean]

It's not on Poedb if it does exist

[static plinth]

It was on PoEDB earlier in the day

[hybrid ocean]

I can infer from context what it must've done in poe1

[hybrid ocean]

There've definitely been cases of things from poe1 being on there by mistake before- But would you care to see if you can find it for me?

ah, excellent

[static plinth]

It had custom art

Thats the PoE1 version though

Aha

https://poe2db.tw/us/Crown_of_Eyes

[hybrid ocean]

Yeah, realized after saying that, the attack damage was the giveaway

[static plinth]

ITs on there, just not on the list

Cuz it doesnt have stats

[hybrid ocean]

Level 45 level req. is promising

means more likely it isn't a pinnacle drop or something, right?

[static plinth]

Probably a world drop

Its never been a boss drop afaik

[static plinth]

Nice

[regal turtle]

what off-hands are you able to use with spear? is it just buckler and shield?

[hybrid ocean]

I have like, 1 hour in path of exile 1

[static plinth]

So yeah Crown of Eyes is a great option

[hybrid ocean]

I think it might literally just be buckler

[gray hull]

see this where I think that monk is gonna be decent for mjolnir

[hybrid ocean]

Oh, did they /fix/ all ele spell levels giving triple value to all ele spells?

[gray hull]

that i'm unaware of

[hybrid ocean]

I have a character on standard, I can just check that right now

[static plinth]

Oh my god

Okay so

Stupid build idea

[gray hull]

but you have a good positon for spellblade

[hybrid ocean]

Interesting

You're missing one piece of the puzzle

[static plinth]

Oh my god

[hybrid ocean]

Use this chest piece instead

[static plinth]

I was thinking Ritualist instead

[hybrid ocean]

And find some other way to take fire

[static plinth]

But also CAN WE SELF-HIT WITH LIGHTNING

[hybrid ocean]

They killed it :(((

[dry pagoda]

you can dream

[hybrid ocean]

First order of business is finding out if we can proc these on self-hit at all

If you take the unique chest, you can just go infernalist for the fire version

[static plinth]

Fair but itd be weird if you couldnt

One problem is i think they'll only proc once every 3 seconds or so, when their duration runs out

[hybrid ocean]

There were changes to things like barrier invocation, non-zero chance this was a system change rather than a case-specific

Oh, right

yeah, that's kinda...

[static plinth]

There's a new unique belt that cuts charm duration in half

[hybrid ocean]

hold on

[static plinth]

Yeah that one also looks interesting

[hybrid ocean]

If we can self poison somehow

better screenshot

[static plinth]

Im gonna be real sad if the yteased a ton of uniques that arent in the game yet

Mind of The Council especially

Though Yriel's Fostering is real so at least we have one of four members

[celest oxide]

Is anyone else starting with Merc for the purpose of Tactician?

[static plinth]

what

[hybrid ocean]

Anyone know what Soul Eater is?

was it a thing in poe1?

[static plinth]

Yeah

Increased size, increased skill speed

[hybrid ocean]

huh

[static plinth]

Every kill gives a stack

One sec

I think its the same in 2

Though i think the amount of skill speed is lower

YEEEAAAAH

Its exactly what i hoped it would be

[hybrid ocean]

For the poison duration?

[static plinth]

No this isnt relevantto the build

Im just happy to see Yriel's made it to PoE2

[carmine flicker]

damn, help me finally decide
spectre mancer lich or mjolner kitava smith?

[hybrid ocean]

I say the latter

Given that the helmet exists

This one

[carmine flicker]

what helmet?

oh, right
yeah, could work

[static plinth]

Might be interested in this then

[hybrid ocean]

on the trade site because I can't find it elsewhere

[hybrid ocean]

Ok, that's pretty cool

[static plinth]

Im assuming every range there is 1 - 3 and not a static value

[hybrid ocean]

unfortunately, that build was kind of dogshit even with that absolutely insane roll

[carmine flicker]

can't decide what would be more brainrot one button(or zero button?) afk tanky

[static plinth]

Well then you might be interested in this
https://poe2db.tw/us/Elemental_Sundering

[hybrid ocean]

Wait, consumes ailments on allies?

[static plinth]

Yeah, its a weird skill

[hybrid ocean]

Hold on, anyone know if a foot-yuumi style thing would be against ToS? Seems like it wouldn't be

[static plinth]

Let me look up what the hell that is and ill get back to you

[hybrid ocean]

Basically just some level of automation to enable you to play two characters at once

[static plinth]

Oh just a pedal?

[hybrid ocean]

In that case it was literally a pedal yeah

but you'd need something a bit more sophisticated for poe

I'm thinking of some software that literally just echoes WASD to another machine

And maybe other keybinds

So you can have two characters that just sit on top of each other at all times, piloted by one person

[static plinth]

Im not the best to ask, but i believe as long as 1 irl button press equals 1 in-game action, it's legal

[hybrid ocean]

That's what I figured

I'll go ask in #tooldev-general

[static plinth]

I think that'd be allowed? Would be easy to get desynced though

[hybrid ocean]

It's not really what the channel is for, but people there will know the answer

[hybrid ocean]

true

Could do it on mouse movement I guess? That would be more difficult though, and more likely a no-no from on high

[uneven osprey]

act 2 no spirt gem yet

rip

[visual warren]

any advice on what to level huntress with?

[steady flint]

Fireflower

[dawn spire]

you didn't get the one from the freythorn?

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality seems to be very good

[hybrid ocean]

true

[uneven osprey]

i think i crashed

i been having some issues lol

not sure i finished actrully

[dawn spire]

you get a guaranteed spirit gem from the king in the mists in the freythorn

[steady flint]

Where tf you all finding these new uniques?

[dawn spire]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_uniques

[steady flint]

Nvm, on poedb now

I just refreshed

[static plinth]

Essentia Sanguis being a set of Furtive Wraps implies they're a boss drop right

[short mango]

do normal letters and special letters count as the same thing for poe2 names? i've tried so many variations of the same name with special characters and it's just not working :(. . . . so many people play the game, names are all taken

[atomic halo]

literally just take what you were already thinking

and add _hunt or something

[hushed loom]

So only way to make lightning arrow fork is with the support gem ? And if La pierce can it fork at same time ? And can forked arrows pierce ?

[short mango]

build it and find out

if you have the support gems it shouldn't take too long to test

[dark lintel]

anyone has link for new ascendancy? and which class to take to get em?

[dawn spire]

huntress = amazon and ritualist
warrior = smith of kitava
witch = lich
mercenary = tactician

[nimble hound]

whats the most OP Chronomancer build for endgame

[dawn spire]

there's a picture of their trees in #poe2-news

[ashen plume]

how is everyone building spear tree?

[dawn spire]

if anyone claims to know the most op build for endgame 7 hours into a league, they're trying to sell you something

[nimble hound]

😄

[dark lintel]

thanks!

[dawn spire]

but imo the builds that look good so far are chaos dot and grenades

[deft osprey]

Is it me or

The uniques are ass for casters

[last horizon]

for witch lvl4 spirit gem:
Should I chose Withering Presence, Convalescence (which I think is new? anyone know how it works?) or Raging Spirits? (and does fire wall still trigger raging spirits??)

[deft osprey]

There’s one staff that’s promising

[dawn spire]

if you read it, it tells you how it works. And which one you should pick depends on your build and your goals

hold alt and click on underlined keywords/phrases to read more about them

[last horizon]

Convalescence just confuses me, because it's a buff, but it says something about

A skill that you can use to ...

[dawn spire]

activating convalescence grants a second skill

which you can put on your bar

[last horizon]

so it's manuel... that sucks

[last horizon]

manual

[short mango]

it's a 30s cd defensive ofc it's manual

[dawn spire]

I picked it because nothing else looked that great for me early on

I've pressed it maybe 3 times (I'm halfway through act 2 now)

I regret it

withering presence was probly the play for me. Or arctic armour

[last horizon]

yeah, doesn't seem so great if I have to press it

not sure if raging spirits are still a thing?

[topaz thunder]

You would also have to know what even is OP now first.

[dawn spire]

I think there might be a few nerds who got on their endgame 0.1 characters and tried a bunch of stuff and might have found some sick combos

[topaz thunder]

Is there a site where I can see alist of all the new uniques and support gems?

Or like a filter for the new stuff.

[bold oxide]

poe2db

[still rock]

useful for event horizon if you end up taking it

[dawn spire]

it's the next cluster I'm taking actually

[still rock]

unless its changed since 0.1 the sacrifice stops your recharge which is tricky

but im assuming conv would help a lot

[versed tundra]

What exactly does a crushing blow do?

[dawn spire]

I'm not planning on relying on recharge, convalescence was a pleasant surprise

[versed tundra]

Does "Your hits are crushing blows" from Titan also work on spell hits?

[dawn spire]

hold alt and click on it to read more

[versed tundra]

Updating the game rn so I can't yet

[hybrid ocean]

Basically stuns things a bit sooner

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure if they only work on spell hits

[short mango]

well i hope huntress scales. they are extremely weak early. devourer 1 shots you :(, and the AoE on whirling slash isn't enough to take care of the worms without 2-3 stacks

[hybrid ocean]

If it doesn't specify attacks, it should

[still rock]

im leveling with spear on my merc its mad fun lol

parry is kinda fun to use

disengage, spear throw explosion with the charge you get from disengage after parry

[short mango]

parry feels pretty bad. doesn't work on slams and timing it on normal attacks seems rough. you can't do it mid attack animation so you gotta stop attacking to parry

[atomic halo]

yes

[still rock]

you quite literally can animation cancel with parry

[short mango]

dealing with devourer without range is very rough

[still rock]

spear throw dog

[dawn spire]

if you're fighting the devourer outside of clearfell, that thing one-shots everyone

[versed tundra]

Was Frost Bomb's damage nerfed?

Or was the only change an aoe buff?

[topaz thunder]

Is the lightning bolt from choir considered triggered?

I guess it's in the description so yes probably

[short mango]

i handle him fine with monk and monks range early skill. theris a lot less AoE on huntress skills early. explosive spear having a detonation time is hard to time on the adds but fine on devourer. whirling slash can't really be used, it doesn't do nearly enough damage and casting it often gets me hit by all of the adds

[ashen shell]

my cursebot in standard went from 110% temp chains to 50% so temp chains was def nerfed overall theoretical maximum used to be ~200% or something so, warrented, but def cant see it ever going above 70% now (70% is ~21% for unique mobs in multiplayer)

[short mango]

but monk doesn't struggle with the adds

[ashen shell]

this is with blasphemy btw

[dawn spire]

sounds like your solution is to get a qstaff and beat him up with qstaff skills

[dawn spire]

they also changed the math on slow debuffs, unless that's what you're referring to

[ashen shell]

i'm refering to this yes, slow magnitude is additive with curse magnitude now

so i dont really see a point in grabbing like 90% of the slow magnitude nodes unless they buff the raw %, they're v far away and if you're playing a cursebot you wanna prioritize curse mag over anything else cuz it buffs everything, not just temp chains (enfeeble doesnt get nerfed in multiplayer so it can go to 30-40% against bosses)

the temp chains nerf was warrented btw i just think it was a little heavy handed

[twin sierra]

i ended up swapping up last minute swapping to chaos dot lich starter and it was a great decision

[ashen shell]

(reaching 100% slows on bosses isnt something that should ever happen in poe)

[twin sierra]

most smooth hc leveling ive had so far

[dawn spire]

how do you do, fellow chaos dot hc player?

ED is so busted it's silly

[twin sierra]

yeah after I clicked mom once I got the regen node on 1st ascendancy I haven’t felt close to dying either

dmg isnt as great as it could be with a more offensive tree but id rather be on the safe side

got like 1200 pool after just hitting a3

[topaz thunder]

spell echo definitely still works on Choir even though it no longer shouldn't

[short mango]

ya this fight on huntress is an actual nightmare. the adds take to long to kill, and the skills do next to no damage

[twin sierra]

the thing that sold me was realizing the atziri helm mod is the same as the ascendancy one

[silent cloak]

with everything out now, does anyone know if the merc gemling zoom with tempest flurry is a viable setup & playstyle this league?

[twin sierra]

and theres 5% on passive tree aswell

going to sleep now hopefully will finish campaign tmrw

[dawn spire]

what skill(s) are you using?

[short mango]

ya ima just go play monk, their is zero AoE on this class.

i've not struggled this hard on devoruer on anything else iv'e played

[still rock]

skill issue tbh but play what you enjoy

huntress is pretty fun

[dawn spire]

at tier 3 skills you get rake which demolishes the early game

[short mango]

spear throw does minimal damage, whirlilng slash is doing basically nothing. need 2-3 stacks to even kill devourer adds and they spawn so much

[dawn spire]

what support(s) are you using?

[still rock]

im scaling proj dmg so i went twister, pretty good for clear

[short mango]

after devourer hits half hp i'm almost on permanent wh irling slash just to kill ads and can't even hti devourer anymore

no support gems at all it's devourer

you get to this fight very early

[dawn spire]

I think you get a support from killing the ice witch there, but I forget

[short mango]

no you get a skill gem from that

at least i didn't get any support gems from it only skills. and the cold res

if the AoE wasn't so bad it wouldn't be an issue. but to kill the adds i need to use 2-3 whirling slashes for the detonate to do enough

i can dodge and survive for a long time. it's once i'm at the phase with devourer + tail that spawn adds every few seconds that i'm being walled

basically stall out from lack of damage on the adds

[young hinge]

u could put a crossbow or bow in offset , the fire grenade is good

[short mango]

and after a few minutes i get hit by something

it's just the lack of up front AoE at the rate the adds are spawning

[dawn spire]

did you try disengage + explosive spear for the frenzy charge synergy?

seems like good aoe

[short mango]

with my only 2 AoE's being a dash that's putting me further in danger a good portion of the time if i want to stak it and hit the pets

not enough skill gems for all of those yet. went whirling slash 2nd not disengage

[dawn spire]

what skill do you get in the first zone as huntress?

[short mango]

whirling. i have whirling + explosive (got explosive first)

[dawn spire]

gotcha

does the basic attack do any aoe?

[short mango]

if i had more AoE i wouldn't really be having issues. it's almost entirely the adds and not being able to kill them fast enough

[dawn spire]

if it's a sweep I could see it being nice

[short mango]

no. only whirling slash and explosive spear for me right now

and explosive spear is a 2.5 second delay

which is fien to damage devourer, but the adds it's a bit harder to use on, as they come from different angles and hit hard enough i can't hold parry up for long

[young hinge]

get crossbow fire grenade its pretty good in act 1 for any class

if u need some aoe

[dry pagoda]

try not using parry at all in that fight

[static plinth]

The only way to get more gem quality above 20 is Gemling right?

[still rock]

pretty sure

[static plinth]

So with Gemling

Max of 60% rearm chance on Hazards?

Specifically Spearfield since it's quality is 0.5 per 1

[short mango]

parry is the only way i get it low. the part i'm having the most problems on is when the adds come up and i can't kill them fast enough. if i had more than 2 skill gems and didn't come straight here it'd probably be fine. but every other class i come straight here and it isn't such a big deal :(. . . my AoE is just horrific with only 2 gems

parry in the eralier phases lets me get him to 15% pretty reasonably

[midnight obsidian]

are you stepping out of the whirl or spamming it

[dry pagoda]

arent the adds just some maggots? stack whirl slash 3 times and dodge out, use the explosive spear. and kite and dodge roll a lot

[short mango]

i cast it 2-3 times and step out of it. to cause the AoE on the adds. i can kill the adds they just take so logn to kill i can't damage devourer before the next spawn

[young hinge]

i killed him before he even spawned adds but i farmed rare weapons from beira first lol

was like a 6 second devourer kill

[dry pagoda]

the adds are mostly there so you can refill your flask charges

you can kite them too

[short mango]

i'm in basically starting gear.

[dry pagoda]

doesnt matter

[fresh eagle]

Hi guys im playing spear im just before the dreadnaught act 2, i really have a miss of damages like i have to attack 5-6 times a white pack to kill them its horrible, does someone play spear too and can help me a little bit pls?

[young hinge]

white weapon is pretty bad for weapon class in act 1

[dawn spire]

I'd give #1328202289755983932 a read

and I'd try using rake + stomping ground + brutality

[ornate palm]

Does anyone have the passive tree for rake stomp ground build?

[fallow tulip]

why did they decide to make supporting fire a minion skill? 😦

[deft osprey]

Tried chaos build and it was bad

Man

[fallow tulip]

there's nothing to scale minion damage near merc

[devout garnet]

how does temper weapon works? it deals damage even if the skill has brutality?

[dusky wadi]

how is bleed for huntress so far?

[dawn spire]

if you link it to brutality, it won't do any non-physical damage

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality seems pretty solid, at least for early acts

[dusky wadi]

is stomping ground a support?

[carmine flicker]

it's separate damage instance
main attack could have brutality, temper will work

[ornate palm]

do you have a passive tree for that?

[devout garnet]

that was what i was looking for. Thanks.

[carmine flicker]

issue is - you probably want to go full fire damage if you bother with temper

[weak rain]

did witchhunter get nerfed at all?

[carmine flicker]

easier to scale that way

[dawn spire]

nope, just get melee damage, physical damage, and/or attack speed

damage with one handed weapons and spear damage also works

[devout garnet]

thing is, there is no good spear skill for temper to work well with

[ornate palm]

no elemental nodes right?

[dusky wadi]

should i go for the incision section for more magnitude on bleed? or is it not needed?

[ornate palm]

Also, is rake stomp ground used for mob clearing as well or we use some other skills

[dawn spire]

correct

[carmine flicker]

there is that spear dash

[dawn spire]

it's decent for clearing

[carmine flicker]

dash between mobs, throw AOE around, profit

[dawn spire]

I'd focus more on raising the damage of your hits than the bleed

[devout garnet]

i was thinking to go full spear stab but i will try with that one iguess

sounds a lot better than my idea lol

[dusky wadi]

is that cause we have guarenteed bleed already>

[dawn spire]

no, because you can't inflict bleed through ES and stomping ground is a lot of your damage. And you attack so quickly that you're wasting bleed applications anyway

[carmine flicker]

temper will be your AOE clearing, and main skill as single target help along with temper
issue with temper - it's channel every 4 attacks
will get boring fast

[dusky wadi]

where do you get stomping ground and what does ES mean? sorry

[devout garnet]

i like a lot the fantasy of being a blacksmith, idk how it will be ingame tho, im still leveling, but im asking for the tree as i level up

[dawn spire]

stomping ground is a support gem, untick the "show recommended gems" in the bottom left to show all the actual gems you can cut. ES means energy shield

Hold alt and left click on any underlined keyword/phrase to read more about it

[carmine flicker]

the fantasy is cool
the "stand still for 3 second every 4 second" isn't, really

well
didn't try
but sound like temp-breacking

[dawn spire]

can the temper weapon be supported with arcane or martial tempo to speed it up?

[dusky wadi]

should i get stomping ground first before brutality?

[carmine flicker]

I wish I know it..

[dawn spire]

yeah

and because of how stomping ground works, str becomes your best attribute

[dusky wadi]

bleed doesnt stack right? its just one proc?

[dawn spire]

aye

get enough dex/int to equip your gear, then dump everything else into str

[dusky wadi]

i should use herald of blood right?

[sage tulip]

with this new update I am trying to do a sort of lightning chaos undead army witch build, what ascendancy would be the best for that ?

[carmine flicker]

and if you go that way you want to stack temper with warcries.. and that's another headache/piano at this point every damn attack

[dawn spire]

maybe? I'm not entirely sure what it does. I'd go wind dancer, personally. It's a very good defensive spirit gem

[dusky wadi]

enemies pop when they die of blood loss, it makes clearing a breeze

[sage tulip]

or would sorcerrer be better for that ? not sure what to do since I have mostly done merc this entire time

[dawn spire]

"lightning chaos undead army" sounds like a recipe for a build that's trying to do too many things and will end up doing none of them well

I'd try to rein it in and focus on just one of those three

[carmine flicker]

damn, summoner lich or smith?
so hard to decide
smith have more options
but warrior is SO hard to level as first char
melee shit is melee shit

[dawn spire]

spear with rake + stomping ground + brutality is actually buttery smooth

[carmine flicker]

why stomping ground?

[ornate palm]

just upgraded and its super smooth lol

[sage tulip]

well was going to focus on either lightning or chaos damage and just use the infusion to add the other effect it just seems that lightning is better at aoe than chaos but lich has good chaos damage boosts.

[ornate palm]

thank you @dawn spire

[dusky wadi]

its fine that im doing this on huntress right?

[dawn spire]

it does damage based on your str when you move with a skill. And rake moves every attack

[dusky wadi]

also i realized in huntress theres something that lets you poison on hit, its not much but it might be fun to try

[dawn spire]

you can do it on fuckin witch and it would still be good for leveling

[carmine flicker]

and blood hunt?

sound like blood hunt should work too then

[dusky wadi]

i just realized that this is like the only chance you get to poison without needing another skill

[dawn spire]

what is that?

[dawn spire]

oh, that's a level 7 gem, not sure how good it is

[dusky wadi]

poison might be intresting on huntress if you decide to go with bow

theres alot of poison stuff early on

[weak rain]

witchunter or deadeye for crossbow & grenades?

[dawn spire]

chronomancer

no cap

ignoring CD on grenades is pretty slick

but if you're boring, I would say deadeye would be my preference

extra proj on grenades is pretty dope

[sage tulip]

what are the best lightning skills in poe2

[weak rain]

that actually sounds kinda fun

[sage tulip]

spells I mean

[dawn spire]

lightning conduit probably

[still rock]

i made a chrono grenadier in 0.1, its pretty cool but youll have to have a main skill to use in conjunction - just grenades has too many gaps

its fun

[dusky wadi]

for bleed i dont know exactly the best way to go from here

[dawn spire]

bleed scales with your hit damage and bleed magnitude, so I'd head for the spear nodes

[static plinth]

Has anyone tried Dance With Death with spears?

[weak rain]

actually why is witchhunter even good

[dusky wadi]

which way is that? also does "melee" damage count for bleed or just physical and attack damage?

[weak rain]

genuinely no clue it just looked cool

[carmine flicker]

damn, phys damage ironically is my biggest worry with smith
cause, you know, armour doesn't work and life pool is small by default

[dawn spire]

I'd hold alt and click on the bleed keyword to read more about how it works

[ornate palm]

@dawn spire how does rake interact with strength?

[dawn spire]

it doesn't, stomping ground does

[ornate palm]

gotcha thanks

[dusky wadi]

is there anything i should grab on the way or just beeline it?

[ornate palm]

how should i spend my spirit? wind dancer?

[dawn spire]

tbh I haven't looked at the bottom right part of the tree basically ever

[dawn spire]

I like wind dancer a lot, but herald of blood is decent if you want an offensive option instead

[ornate palm]

i see, let me check it out

[dawn spire]

I'm biased toward defensive options, #hcssfbtw

[muted charm]

fresh character @candid hollow

[dusky wadi]

i need a support gem so bad rn lol

[muted charm]

loot is very accessible

[young cobalt]

is elemental ailment threshold more important or does having high ES help with that instead?

[muted charm]

your just fvery bad with the crafting system

[dawn spire]

did you get your free one from the gallows in the manor ramparts?

[dusky wadi]

not there yet

how do you get it once im there?

[dawn spire]

once you start walking on parts that are wider and more like a flat zone, look for the gallows and click it

there will be a checkpoint nearby

[candid hollow]

nice sample size

[muted charm]

I forced that it wasn't a sample size. It was a known mechanic.

[vague thunder]

I found a pillar of the caged god from the first unique boss in the game. What should i build with it!?!?@?

[muted charm]

the life on kill and mana/mana regen instead of mana on kill was very lucky though

very lucky suffixes, but prefixes are replicatable

[dawn spire]

unfortunately they gutted potcg and stack stacking, but you can still give it a whirl

[weak rain]

is LA deadeye still the best deadeye? or did crossbows get buffed to the point where its better to go with that

[muted charm]

the only rng is the chaos base damage. Every other mod will always be useful

so you look for chaos damage

than spam that fucker and keep the wand till you can upgrade

[halcyon solar]

Does Firewall dmg stack? I mean if i have cast multiple firewalls beneath a boss?

[vague thunder]

Just my luck lol

[celest oxide]

Is there any spear setup that feels decent early

[muted charm]

and if your not chaos this is way easier because cast speed is a massive upgrade instead of a minor upgrade

[celest oxide]

Or xbow I guess

[dusky wadi]

@dawn spire does stompoing ground only work if you have the wind dance thing?

[celest oxide]

I feel so weak lol

[dusky wadi]

what triggers it?

[dawn spire]

no, it works if you use rake. It moves you

[dusky wadi]

oh sweet

[halcyon solar]

Do multiple Firewalls stack in terms of damage?

[dusky wadi]

oh my god the damage is so much better

[short mango]

rake is kinda dumb

[dusky wadi]

also healthbar broke

[celest oxide]

Wait what’s the setup?

[dusky wadi]

rake and stomping grounds

[celest oxide]

I didn’t even start huntress I started merc :l

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality

it works on every class

[celest oxide]

Yeah I know

[short mango]

i'll grab brutality next. i went with increased AoE

[celest oxide]

I might do that until I unlock Whirlwind Lance

[short mango]

magnified effect

[celest oxide]

Because Whirlwind Strike feels awful

[dusky wadi]

whats the dark red thing that bleed does to enemies health?

[celest oxide]

But Tornado feels good

[short mango]

ya whirlwind strike feels terrible. . . i dropped it instantly. and just went with parry > disengage > explosive spear. . support gem fiery spear with perpetual charge

till . . rake

[dusky wadi]

youre supposed to mix it with other skills

it makes tornado better and it gets a fire buff with explosive spear

[short mango]

it did nearly no damage even with tornadoes. compared to a parry > disengage > spear

[celest oxide]

Even with Tornado it’s still somewhat feels bad

Tornados do good damage

But setup is club kit

Clunky

[short mango]

it takes 2-3 whirling to use a nado and get value. and at that point i'd rather just parry > disengage > spear. and clear the exact targets i need.

while taking very little dmg

just gotta be sure you don't heavy stun yourself

1/3 of the spears just don't lose a charge

[radiant yarrow]

I huntress gonna be good later on, been seeing mixed opinions and don't wanna start leveling it for it to be ass. Played monk for launch and wanted to try huntress now but might also wanna go sorcress or witch is huntress isn't gonna be too good

[short mango]

after lvl 3 skill gem it gets kinda dumb

[warped spade]

any huntress players got the foresight to tell if amazon or ritualist is better?

[ripe jay]

Which ascnedancy is considered better for flash grenades? I'll combine it with some of the other grenades as support

• Witch hunter as all arounder
• Gemling for the gem levels and repeated support gems
• Titan for stuns.
• Deadeye for tailwind and extra projectile.

[short mango]

rake damage is really stupid with stomping ground

[dusky wadi]

i cannot find renlys tools for the life of me

[dawn spire]

are you in ogham village? they're in a little offshoot on the edge of the zone somewhere

[dusky wadi]

yes

[dawn spire]

chronomancer for bypassing grenade cooldowns

[nimble hound]

what build for chahlkyua

[dawn spire]

acolyte of chayula?

[nimble hound]

ya

[dawn spire]

I have no clue tbh

it can do basically any hit-based skill, can't it?

[dusky wadi]

found it btw thank you

[dawn spire]

it can get a lot of mana leech and has stuff for scaling hits, so maybe you could do some swanky mana flare build or something. That could be neat

[sage tulip]

if you had to put a rating on curses in poe2 what would be the top 3 ?

[dawn spire]

whatever curses help your build the most

[young hinge]

i like temp chainz

[young hinge]

something cold ❄

[zinc island]

is profanity support gem working, doesnt seem to do anything with essence drain. the corpse is consumed but no damage increase??

[sage tulip]

ok I like the sound of that one too, just couldn't decide that one or the vulnerability.

[weak rain]

lightning arrow or crossbows for deadeye?

[sage tulip]

anyway to decrease the cost of the blasphemy skill gem ?

besides quality

[dawn spire]

play a tactician

also blasphemy is a spirit gem

[weak rain]

can we pick tactician rn? or is broken like smith

[dawn spire]

both work, depends on your build

[dawn spire]

smith is broken?

I wasn't aware

[weak rain]

yeah apparently ppl cant select the smith ascendancy

[dawn spire]

rip

ziz must be in shambles

[dire tinsel]

He didn’t pick it because of the notes nerf

[sage tulip]

why is the merc getting like the best effects in its tree I mean are you serious right now ? 8% bonus spirit, and persistant buffs have 50% reduced cost are you kidding me right now ? the only issue with merc for my build is that it starts on the complete opposite side of witch....

and 20% bonus damage for minions.

[dawn spire]

idk if 50% less reservation is that good, tbh. There are ways to get more spirit if you just want to add on a couple spirit gems

but it could be absolutely nuts, not sure

[weak rain]

wait which merc

[dawn spire]

tactician

[weak rain]

ah man that is tempting

[sage tulip]

well was asking how to lower the blasphemy cost because I found a way to run 3 curses with the lich, have minions and do lightning damage and gain chaos damage to the lightning with the witch and gain like 325 spirit with gear to make this all work but the spirit cost alone of things sucks a lot lol and here is tactician being like hey 50% cost of persistant buffs effectively halfing the blasphemy cost completely. -.-

[halcyon solar]

ehm, is Beira of the Rottenlake(?) not in the game anymore?

[young hinge]

she is there

[keen tartan]

Anyone theorycrafting how to make bloodmage work this patch? I've been playing with lots of ideas. Crit / bleed, running spears with herald of blood and haemocrystals, but none of it really feels synergistic with the bloodmage ascendancy...

[halcyon solar]

ye just found her. Not that easy to find anymore

[young hinge]

Yea kinda sad to move her further

direct nerf to ssf lol

[jaunty basin]

New to POE here, I found a couple Uniques at a low level, when do i know I need to replace them ?

[dawn spire]

you don't want to equip 95% of uniques in the first place

you replace them as soon as you find a better item

[weak rain]

is there any inherent difference between classes before you get an ascendancy? as in, merc and ranger will play crossbows the same way up until you ascend?

[dawn spire]

which, for uniques, is usually immediately

[dawn spire]

they can even play them the same way after you ascend, yes

[sage tulip]

stuck between grand visage for my build or wolf helm one makes me able to use support gems twice while the other gives me a huge bump in spirit hmm hard to choose.

[weak rain]

ah gotcha gotcha

[tranquil raptor]

Hey, jumping on league start a bit later than everyone, maybe someone has any tips or preferable links for some chaos lich starter?

[sage tulip]

im currently trying to come up with a lich build idea but lich makes it easier to combo damages from the ascendancy nodes

for myself thinking of lightning chaos combo myself.

[tranquil raptor]

I thought of trying some chaos and if that doesnt work just transist to full minions

[sage tulip]

fair

[stuck iris]

is rake a bad Idea in act 1?

[sage tulip]

rake ?

[stuck iris]

Spear skill, Causes Bleed

[dawn spire]

rake seems to be the consensus for the best spear skill for leveling

rake + stomping ground + brutality

[dawn spire]

essence drain + chain + zenith
contagion + magnified effect + persistence
enfeeble + decaying hex + arcane tempo

[sage tulip]

if a curse is in the blasphemy skill gem would support gems effect the curses as well ? or would it only effect the blasphemy spirit gem ?

[dawn spire]

if you want, you can use swift affliction instead of chain

[dawn spire]

depends on the support

[stuck iris]

and in early passives do I want Attack Damage or Attack speed? and do I start stacking acuracy sooner rather than later?

[dawn spire]

but they can affect both

[dawn spire]

I'd go for attack damage because that's better for the bleed
why do you want to stack accuracy?

you should stack strength since that scales stomping ground

[dawn spire]

that would work on the curse, yes

[ornate palm]

@dawn spire Does rake level or rake damage affect the damage of ground stomp?

[sage tulip]

ohh boy add that to the blasphemy and I might be able to curse enemies off screen with the aura

[dawn spire]

no

[storm inlet]

Guys huntress or gemling for artillery ballista?

[ornate palm]

so I only need str + attack dmg and melee damage nodes?

[halcyon solar]

If you have smth like Deal additional cold damage or Allies in your presence deal additional Cold damage. Do you have to do Cold damage in the first place to get the additional damage, or is this simply added without any preconditions?

[dawn spire]

physical damage, weapon damage, and spear damage also helps

crit can also help

attack speed isn't bad, it just doesn't help the bleed that much

but it might be pretty good until bleed becomes relevant

[ornate palm]

yea, i foudn the actual bleed dmg is not that impressive

[hoary radish]

What is the earliest method to gain frenzy charges on HuntressÉ

?

[weak rain]

when ppl say "heralds dont stack anymore", does that mean they cant trigger eachother?

[dawn spire]

disengage

[dawn spire]

correct. you can no longer chain ice and thunder explosions

[weak rain]

aw gotcha

[hoary radish]

does it require a support gem

oh just parry. I missed that part

Also does anyone know since the herald changes have been made, Would using Lightning herald on lightning spear even be worth it?

[crude tree]

Why dosent this gem work for rapid assult? am i missing smt?

[stuck iris]

so do I invest anything into the level of whirlwind or even the basic abilities ie stab throw and parry? or just save and wait to get to level 3 gems...

[manic panther]

anyone have a running bet on what's a good build?

[dawn spire]

chaos DoT

[bronze sand]

Can I redo my ascendency???

[halcyon solar]

errr, how do you actually destroy Asinias Spike Prison as a Witch with no actual attacks 😄

[weak rain]

naw

[rocky thistle]

Hey Anyone tried the tactician yet ? i'm hesitating between this and withhunter for a Lightning crossbow build

[dawn spire]

you mean pick a different one? no

not without making a new character

[bronze sand]

Mhm..

Stuck on titan

[sage tulip]

whats this sudden patch about ?

[weak rain]

i think its for ppl who couldnt select smith when they finished the trial

[sage tulip]

ahh

that would be annoying

[bronze sand]

Warrior leveling is modern torture

[dawn spire]

use rake + stomping ground + brutality

[hoary radish]

herald of fire + perfect strike kinda slaps

[bronze sand]

Might try

Thorns looks good need level 2 sup gem first

[halcyon solar]

How do you break Asinias circle prison thing as a witch with no attacks at all? 😄

[dawn spire]

with spells

[halcyon solar]

firewall, Unearth doesn't cut it

that's what i got

[dawn spire]

unearth should work as long as you're not using like a level 1 version

might take a couple casts

[thorny fractal]

Any good starter build to oneshot bosses?

[keen tartan]

Can someone explain why aggravated bleeding is a thing? Arent enemies always moving? If aggravated bleeding doesn't do any extra damage while the target is moving, is it really that useful?

[quasi flint]

Help I need ideas for what to do on warrior

[dawn spire]

starters cannot oneshot bosses

[dry carbon]

damn just finished ascend. cant decide amazon or ritualist :\

[thorny fractal]

LA deadeye could in previdious league

[dawn spire]

LA deadeye could not kill bosses in one shot in the campaign

[mortal shore]

Eh I rage quited huntress man i cant do it

[dawn spire]

did you try rake + stomping ground + brutality?

[thorny fractal]

he could if u played fast life on enemy hit

[dawn spire]

lightning arrow literally doesn't do enough damage to one shot campaign bosses

[thorny fractal]

Lightning arrow+ lightning rod + cast on shock ball lightning

[dawn spire]

are you just saying "can kill bosses quickly", or "can kill bosses with one button press"?

[mortal shore]

Im a simple guy so ima trying out woolie run and gun merc build since crossbows got buffed nicely

[thorny fractal]

i killed all in less than 1 sec even t4 arbiter etc

so like oneshot

[mortal shore]

ima wait for people to get far with huntress to see their opinions and builds

[dawn spire]

you killed all the campaign bosses in less than 1 second with starter gear?

[dawn spire]

rake + stomping ground + brutality

stack str

[thorny fractal]

im not asking about campain bosses to oneshot im asking about pinnacle bosses

[mortal shore]

yeah i saw some ppl using that just got boring spamming that constantly... i wonder if later on we get more skills to use

[mortal shore]

I believe their HP was nerfed? maybe its doable

[dawn spire]

then you probs need to wait for people to get to pinnacle bosses and/or the nerds on their 0.1 builds to test stuff out

[mortal shore]

yup alot them testing stuff

[stuck iris]

for the huntress do I wait until I get the first spirit gem and Herald of Blood to start using Rake or is Rake okay on it's own?

[halcyon solar]

are arsonists really that bad, that they aren't worth running at all and you rather get more snipers?

[quasi flint]

has anywone tried warrior+spear?

[storm inlet]

Why are the nodes here based on proj but for me its attack

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/amazon-leveling-build?widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiJkZWZhdWx0LXZhcmlhbnQifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0

[hushed bane]

I’ve noticed my equipment doesn’t add to the skill level anymore even though I have suffix with +5 to that skill group. Bug or nerf?

[still rock]

well there is no +5 skill suffix so

not sure what to tell you lol

[warped spade]

anyone know the best spear base?

[rustic monolith]

when should i replace rolling slam with something else

[neat bison]

Rake + stomping grounds trivialized act 1

[neat bison]

Are you using an attack instead of a spell?

[hushed bane]

You see it’s a suffix. Asking why doesn’t it add to my skills that’s all.

[still rock]

oh my b i misread as all skills

but yeah, it has to have the lightning tag

[hushed bane]

It does spark lvl 20(with gem)

That wand add nothing to it after 20

[still rock]

screenshot your gem window with the wand on

[neat bison]

Would have to be a bug I think

[still rock]

im curious if its bugged

[hushed bane]

Also none of the passive that affect lightning/elemental from my passive skill tree effect my skills

Also even if I in equip re-equip there is nothing no change.

No one else has this issue?

[neat bison]

Idk I’m stumped

I’d just open a ticket with them at that point lol

[hushed bane]

It isn’t just the wand though it’s all my equipment. And yeah, I will. Just wondered if anyone else had that problem.

[weak rain]

should i go for gas grenade or galvanic shards for my first run w/ crossbows?

[rapid star]

Is the gas arrow dead eye still viable for leveling?
spent most of my time as an involker monk, and wanted to change to something more... idk different that is not a caster or minion lol

[cobalt pollen]

does enraged warcry only improve on the fire damage of infernal cry

[gilded tangle]

Is Minions taxing on FPS or is it just the game in general?

[neat bison]

Probably both lol

[fiery stone]

Would a tamed beast companion with the mana siphoning aura be useful? Do monsters and bosses actually have a mana pool?

[gilded tangle]

Just got a lvl 5

ARsonist or snipers

what is actually best

[crystal peak]

how come the blacksmith is not available for warrior?

[neat bison]

Re launch the game, they supposedly hotfixed that

[crystal peak]

thanks

[odd perch]

Game down??

[carmine flicker]

wow, I can't kill act1 boss
at all
it keep DROPPING me from server right before dying(and reset location)
any build advices to deal with that?

[dull eagle]

is infernal legions dot affected by other support gems or no?

[dull eagle]

late but i kinda liked snipers with firewall, ignite explosions hit hard at that point

from their command attack

[dull spade]

I got a question, is shock only present whenever the icon is there or does the icon show its capped out now?

In poe1 shock used to build up but in poe 2 idk if i can shock as often as i could crit

[dull eagle]

icon will be there if theyre shocked yes

[opal wing]

does the magma barrier spirit gem skill combo with parry? it says "when you raise shield" so im thinking no

[dull spade]

Ok ty

[ashen pelican]

does this happen before or after conversion

[still rock]

simultaneously

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Conversion

[unreal girder]

Whats a good xbow skill to play in ac2

Grenades are starting to suck dick

[ashen pelican]

true I guess I meant to ask whether that damage can be converted

which I'm assuming is no

[still rock]

correct

[ashen pelican]

ty

[meager tulip]

Is there a guide for spear warrior

[shell glen]

whats current consensus on ritualist ? seems like another chayula moment

[halcyon solar]

Do the support Gems like Fire Infusion also affect minion's active skills like Gas Arrow? Or is that just passively related to their normal attacks?

[quasi flint]

Any consensus on Spears yet?

[stuck iris]

so to go along with rake what do I cut for my first level 5 skill gem? Rapid assault or Storm lance? or do I just level up rake?

[proven rapids]

did you found any good use of it ?

[static plinth]

Not yet, im just focusing on leveling

Barbs support might work well though

[viral rover]

Amazon's definitely the play right? It sure seems better

Blood boil seems good for bleeds though but no one's really gone that route that I've seen so idk

[neat bison]

Corrupted blood isn’t related to bleed unfortunately

Yea, it’s confusing

[green flame]

I was thinking about Spear Gemling Legionaire, any immediate issues anyone can predict with this?

[viral rover]

well thats an odd choice but alright, amazon it is lol

[neat bison]

It’s been that way since Poe 1

They are very similar but different

[magic pier]

long shot but this wouldn't work with Explosive Spear would it?

[neat bison]

Nope

[magic pier]

man

so the only thing that can reduce Explosive Spear Det time is Expedite?

[desert sorrel]

Does Lich work without minions?

[still rock]

there is a reduced skill effect duration cluster near warrior but im assuming youre huntress so its far away

[honest storm]

Explosive spear doesn't have a duration tag

[still rock]

oh, does it not affect the detonation time?

[honest storm]

You can't change it, ggg doesn't want you to not play their silly game with frenzy charges

[mighty wing]

ohh wise ones would theese add to avatar of fire

[honest storm]

Oi

[still rock]

seems like itd be changeable

[honest storm]

I stand corrected

[still rock]

i dont have a spare support gem to try

[honest storm]

In the Ziggy video he said it didn't have the tag

But maybe I misheard

[still rock]

i was thinking theres some exploration to be done there in taking overabundance, expedite, and spamming it somewhat

[neat bison]

I know the +1 use and reduce duration gem seems tailor made for the skill but it doesn’t reduce the pop time

So it’s weird

[still rock]

but thats not really my intent with this build so ill leave that for someone else

[still rock]

oh, is that true? interesting

[neat bison]

If it does 50% is somehow completely unnoticeable

I feel like it’s making the burning ground disappear faster

It’s scuffed

Might be a bug might just be dumb design

[still rock]

you should be able to hover over the skill gem and check to see if the detonation time is lowered or not

by poppin the support in and out

base is 2.5

[magic pier]

Overabundance didn't change the detonation time unfort 😩

[still rock]

oof

[neat bison]

Yep

[static plinth]

Yes but youd still be losing like 20% of your damage

[still rock]

so the duration tag is solely for the ignited ground duration

lmao

[mighty wing]

you can get it back by taking fire dmg nodes

and is it just the "gain" part or is it also the convert part to fire dmg 3 times aswell?

[round escarp]

No it would convert and then you'd lose the DMG. AoF deals no non fire damage.

It's just not worth it.

[static plinth]

Actually wait i think those gloves delete more of your damage then they make it turn to fire lol

[round escarp]

They do.

You lose damage with those gloves

[static plinth]

Or maybe it comes out to like 90% fire convert? rounding down conversions is weird to me

[mighty wing]

wait yeah actually might work like that;D

[static plinth]

I think its 80% fire 10% cold 10% lightning

[round escarp]

Because it's a elemental covert. It likely will apply after the passive tree.

[static plinth]

They're at the same time

[humble wave]

Did they buff boss HP? I used to melt down bosses with my shockburst build now they survive a while and my DPS has gone up if anything

[still rock]

conversion happens after additional flat base damage but before multipliers

but it also depends on what skill youre using

if youre using a skill that converts, that takes priority first before the gloves

[mighty wing]

i mean rn im using lightning spear so its 100 to 100 conversion'

no aof yet

[still rock]

the spear is 80% phys to lightning, the bolts from the frenzy charge consumption are 100%

[mighty wing]

ohh yeah true

dont even know how i missread that

[still rock]

so for the spear dmg youd get 80% of your phys tand then form there the gloves would convert 33% of the lightning into all 3 elements, and youd get the gain extra on top, so most likely a damage increase unless you have invested into lightning dmg multipliers

oh wait

nvm you cant convert from one to the same

so you lose dmg

you cant convert lightning into lightning, for example

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Conversion

Damage types cannot be converted to the same damage type. This is specifically relevant for overconversion -

Painter's Servant
is only considered 66% elemental conversion, rather than 99%. For example, cold damage with

Painter's Servant
and

Whisper of the Brotherhood
is normalized from 33% fire/0% cold/133% lightning conversion to 20% fire/0% cold/80% lightning.

[mighty wing]

yeah

ughh

but then again you gain 28%elemental in total

[static plinth]

Oh good to know

[ornate anvil]

Are totem affected by "Allies in your presence'?

[mighty wing]

people have been torn about it

[static plinth]

Defensive yes, offensive no

+30 life regen? Yes
20% of damage gained as extra fire? No

[ornate anvil]

what about this node?

[static plinth]

No, you only get the attack speed that applies to you

[mighty wing]

thats just so stupid i still refuse to believe it works like that

[static plinth]

They use your skills

But they're their own character

So they have their own defences, but they dont have any offensive stats

They use yours

And you're not your own ally

[ornate anvil]

Do you know what stats they get from your wep?

just the + lvls?

[static plinth]

I think so yeah

[still rock]

wdym they

[static plinth]

Totems

[still rock]

depends on the totem iirc

[ornate anvil]

Any idea of what stats are used by the manifest wep from smith?

[still rock]

i think ballistas for example take your wep dmg

[ornate anvil]

they have their own wep

[still rock]

ah my b

i swear theres something that does

[static plinth]

The support does

That turns a skill into a totem

[still rock]

i know its a companion and that they gfet a specific attack based on the weapon type

but i do not know where they get the stats from

[ornate anvil]

Yea they use a different skill depending on the base

[static plinth]

Im pretty sure they completely inherit your weapon

[ornate anvil]

but i assume they must get something from using a lvl 80 wep vs a lvl 1

for example

hmm, like a straight 1-1 copy?

interesting

sounds like it could potentially be pretty busted late game

[still rock]

yeah my assumption would be it just takes your weapon stats for damage but dont quote me cause im not sure

[ornate anvil]

especially since they scale from str and minion dmg

sucks early tho

[static plinth]

Since you can have at max 2 it wouldnt surprise me if they inherit everything

Wait at max 3 actually

Wait hold on now i want to do triple manfiest weapon build fuuuuucckkkk

[ornate anvil]

huh you can have more than one?

[static plinth]

There's a keystone in Huntress area, and the unique Yriel's Fostering

Wait Yriel's specifies different ones

Let me check the keystone

[still rock]

keystone does as well

[static plinth]

Also specifies

Okay you can only have 1 :(

[wispy needle]

Does it make sense to invest in crit damage for a EDC build?

[static plinth]

No

[ornate anvil]

different types, no?

[static plinth]

yeah i was mistaken

Now im sad

[ornate anvil]

even the unique is like that?

[static plinth]

yeah, exact same wording so they wouldnt stack either

[ornate anvil]

damn 3 bonkers would be sick

[fallow tundra]

does anyone know what minion instability can be scaled with? i knoe 15% health ofc, minion damage but how about unholy might from lich tree etc.

[static plinth]

Give us Chains of Command GGG pleeease

[still rock]

what else does yriel have on it

interested for my zookeeper build

[static plinth]

Its mid besides that

Decent life and evasion though

And some spirit

[still rock]

hmm

idk if that means 3

[static plinth]

Pretty sure it doesnt

[still rock]

both are worded as you can have two

so its one or the other

[static plinth]

Worth testing to make sure but i wouldnt make bets

[still rock]

if its cheap i will cause im taking the keystone anyways

[static plinth]

Its high level so wont be cheap for a day or two at least

But i dont think itll be popular unless a youtuber uses it

[neat bison]

I guess they don’t want you doubling up on 2 broken monsters but my double animate weapon dream is dead

[grim storm]

as a warrior titan, split earth, mace aftershock along with earth breaker, how do they stack? as in chance to create aftershocks

[static plinth]

Additively with a cap at 100% afaik

[grim storm]

awsome thanks, wasnt sure if it was multiple chances

[halcyon solar]

is +Minion Skills only related to the active abilities of the minions? Like Gas Arrow?

[static plinth]

No it applies to the skills themselves, giving them higher hp and damage

And sometiems other things but mainly those

[halcyon solar]

i see thanks

[neat bison]

It’s basically your best affix

For minions

[static plinth]

^

[halcyon solar]

Do support gems for minions skills also influence their active abilities

[static plinth]

Yeah, but i dont think very notably, just more damage

[loud lake]

has anyone playing amazon tried out the penetrate notable yet?

[halcyon solar]

seems like Snipers are so much better than Raging spirits that i wanna swap like martial tempo and Fire Infusion back to the snipers.

[supple fjord]

can you reset a beast taming crystal?

[indigo radish]

Is raging spirits not worth getting anymore?

[feral abyss]

So what's everyone going to build with this new update?

[tulip zenith]

I want to play galvanic crossbow do you guys think deadeye is the choice or Amazon crit would be better late game. I'm softcore if that changes anything

[still rock]

probably deadeye

[still rock]

tactician zookeeper is the plan

[feral abyss]

ah sorry Im quite new, which class is that?

[still rock]

merc

[feral abyss]

oh I see

Do you happen to know any build guides for it?

[still rock]

no i might be one of the few playing a companion focused build

lol

[feral abyss]

oh

[still rock]

and its new

[feral abyss]

wait mercenary can get companions? I thought it was only necromancer

[still rock]

necro isnt in poe2

[feral abyss]

sorry it was witch I think

[neat bison]

Some gems are tied to weapons but any class can use whatever

Aside from ascendency skills ofc

It’s just becomes a question of if you can make it work and then if it is worth it

[feral abyss]

True, but at what point would you say that your build is not worth continuing?

And would you have to start over? Considering its so expensive refunding everything and getting all different gear

[neat bison]

Well

First I look at how far I have to travel for relevant nodes

Then it’s weighing if the gains I get from whatever I want, smith of kitava defenses for example, are worth potential lost skill points

[feral abyss]

I see

[neat bison]

respec is cheap enough to work around for the most part I find

[feral abyss]

Last season I did a mercenary build only focused with crossbow, only using is gattling gun skill. I managed to get by the story easily but maps was impossible

So I was like, I'm pretty much at a point where I cant do anything

Can't change builds either, so I guess I gotta start over?

[neat bison]

Yeah you probably just want to buy some cheap gear upgrades once you get into maps tbh

Like 1ex stuff

It’s a bit of a scuffed transition from campaign rn

[feral abyss]

Is that from trading?

[neat bison]

Yeah

[static plinth]

@still rock Im trying it now, i think Spearfield as main damage might have legs

[feral abyss]

oh ok

[static plinth]

Granted its too early to tell for real but its better than most things rn

[still rock]

ive p much fully vested into storm lance + lightning spear and it feels the most fluid for proj focused dmg without needing the frenzies

[feral abyss]

I still dont know how trading works 😂 , its quite confusing

[still rock]

atleast for the leveling experience

[neat bison]

Yeah you’ve gotta use the website, there are some helpful YouTube vids out there

[feral abyss]

Yeah I'll have to take a look

Thank you

[static plinth]

Kinda feels like a jank Cleave ngl

[still rock]

spear seems very interesting because youd either go fully into proj or melee imo, im not buying the switch back and forth thing theyre trying to sell but im sure some builds can utilize both if invested correctly

just by the nature of how the passive tree works you kinda have to go either one or the other to be efficient w damage

[static plinth]

Woah spearfield's boss damage is crazy

[still rock]

wish i could use a spear and a sceptre, unfortunately for this build ill be dropping the spear because of that eventually

[static plinth]

Wdym

You can use that

[still rock]

oh

[static plinth]

lol

[still rock]

i read "cannot dual wield" and didnt even try it

lmao

well maybe i stick w spears

im going off vibe, dont even have tame beast yet so im just chugging along

[neat bison]

If we ever get better charge generation spears will be cool

[still rock]

i still lowkey wanna do the bringer of rain 2h mace + sceptre tho

[static plinth]

I had to get Brambleghast to move like 0.5 inches and then it exploded for 1/3rd it's HP all at once

[still rock]

parry seems like a meme unfortunately, as i thought it would

its only really applicable a small portion of the time

[neat bison]

It would actually be fine if getting your frenzy charge wasn’t so hard

[static plinth]

Parry's normal debuff is fine and good but using it with disengage isnt

[neat bison]

You have to hit the specific monster you parried

[still rock]

disengage needs like atleast 2x the arc it currently does

[static plinth]

It should apply the debuff to everything it hits with the cone attack yeah

[neat bison]

They should combine disengage and parry into one tbh

Like it’s an auto follow up

[still rock]

it jsut needs smart targeting or something to ensure you dont waste your time with trying to bait a parry and then just missing the guy you parried with disengage

because it feels really awkward even in campaign so it will feel 10x more awkward in maps

[static plinth]

Is there a knockback support?

[still rock]

if i evere think"wow why'd i do that instead of just spamming an attack he wouldve been dead already" then the mechanic is clunky and not implemented well

[neat bison]

Yes

I liked using it on bosses a little bit

but in packs is mega scuffed

and most of the melee skills are kind of designed around you disengaging out so it just feels bad

[static plinth]

found it, bludgeon

But its a T2

[pseudo jay]

is there pob update coming soon? is there any updated tree?

also what do you guys think of flameblast after changes or incinirate ? lastly is there a way to cause flameblast to automatically release/explode when reaching max stages? instead of having to manually release it and reclick?

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/

is updated

idk about other planners i havent checked

and no, you have to release it no matter what

but you get used to the timing from your cast speed once you start mapping tbh

a majority of my playtime in 0.1 was on a flameblaster

[pseudo jay]

i think thats the only thing that feels bad about it. . if there was way to make it explode when reaching max stacks it wouldnt feel bad at all hopefully we get support gem like that in future

[still rock]

just a git gud moment i fear