2┃build-planning

[still rock]

i doubt it but it would be funny

[heady burrow]

Its nuts lol

[twin sierra]

main thing is figuring out how to deal dmg on it

[still rock]

they did nerf it

[heady burrow]

T1 isnt even that rare for sumpin that good

Oh

[twin sierra]

defensively its completely insane with 90 all res + the armour nodes

[heady burrow]

I hope jewelry bases are way more common and thats why astramentis got changed

[twin sierra]

atziri disdain was nerfed aswell if u didnt see

still solid but yeah

[cobalt pollen]

theres also a node thats a small atziri effect

[still rock]

atziri disdain being autoslot for non-es focused builds isnt because its a particularly insane unique, its a symptom of the game not having any solution for survivability past ES

[heady burrow]

So many people are gonna get shitted without grim harvest imo

[still rock]

probably yeah, we gon die a lot

[twin sierra]

im starting hc, prob safing it with kitava xdd

[still rock]

im gunna try out tactician but i already know ar/eva is gunna suck again

the 2x armor might help

[neat bison]

I might get baited into SSF again but I’m not sold on recomb being affordable

inb4 a billion artifacts

[twin sierra]

did ssf in 0.1, it was alright

had to buy a billion quad tabs for 3-1 tho lol

[neat bison]

Yea 3-1 made me wanna die

I’d probably just ignore it if recomb isn’t expensive

[still rock]

they really need to just turn reforging into a vendor recipe its arbitrarily cumbersome

i dont understand that one

[twin sierra]

idk might still feel like I have to pick them up, getting the right recomb bases isnt gonna be that easy

[neat bison]

Yeah but just getting 2 good affixes would already be a decent investment for ssf

[heady burrow]

Damn the Time of Need quality is sad as hell lol, 20% give you +40 healing on proc

[twin sierra]

do u have item filter on ps?

[neat bison]

Yea we can enable them

[twin sierra]

ok nice without them its actual hell picking up the right bases

[still rock]

im not sure how to level a merc at league start, prob just crossbow id imagine

[twin sierra]

lol maybe

my only plan so far if I do go warrior/kitava is using mace strike

and praying they didnt gut perfect strike numbers

then maybe swap to spears or smth else later after campaign

[static plinth]

Bow would be safe and easy

[twin sierra]

i did an a1 test run to derust and it felt fine, aslong as they didnt somehow nerf macestrike too lol

[static plinth]

Man i wish i didnt work tomorrow

At least i get to look at the new uniques on my break

[tranquil raptor]

hey, was there any builds or maybe any upcoming builds which had high movement speed or any other movement abilities? In current league I ran with concoction pathfinder with queen of the forest, had like 70%~ increased movement speed which felt really good. Not counting super expensive builds which I would not be able to reach

[neat bison]

Queen of the Forest got nerfed for some reason lol

[static plinth]

Too fast smh

[neat bison]

Probably just ranger again or huntress for movement

[tranquil raptor]

huntress looks fun but I'm too noob to think of my own builds so i might roll second character as huntress later on

[neat bison]

GGG kind of kept all the base dmg changes and new gems a secret so no real build guides rn

[still rock]

im interested to see the amt of people on tmrw

think a decent portion of the genpop audience they grabbed are prob gunna wait for 1.0 or somn

we shall see

[tranquil raptor]

ye Im not super happy with it haha, I get the idea behind it but I just don't have time to theorycraft some builds myself. I won't be able to play it right at start so hope so draft builds would appear half day after release

[neat bison]

If they succeeded in their plans you should be able to just play what you want and at least not suffer

Key word is IF

Well at least damage wise

Defense is suffering

[still rock]

just pick whatever sounds good until you hit a wall then look around

[quasi rose]

Anyone here already got a idea how to start on the huntress?

[tranquil raptor]

im thinking of just going lich and not suffering that way as first build in current league was summoner for me and it was pretty breezey through campaign

[still rock]

theres undoubtedly something that will be abused again

lich is gunna be strong

imo

[tranquil raptor]

does witch have 2 summoner ascendancies now?

[still rock]

id argue that none of the ascendancies are summoner ascendancies atm

but lich probably has the most upside for summoner

[neat bison]

Infernalist and Lich def have some summoner support

but they intentionally aren’t making a Necromancer

It’s a balance nightmare

In regards to that being the only class minions end up being viable on

[still rock]

poe1 has guardian tbf

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_gems

Gems out

[neat bison]

Oh nice

[still rock]

gdi i was about to hop on marvel heroes lol

i cant not look at this

[deft osprey]

New int scaler

Turns your spell cost into ES based on int

https://poe2db.tw/us/Derange

Dot only smh

[still rock]

that one was already out there tbf

dunno how but it was in there earlier

[deft osprey]

Oh they just added more

It went from 97 to 138

In one refresh

[still rock]

godspeed poedb

[deft osprey]

Oh shit

Yeah

Eye of winter stonks

To the moon

[tranquil raptor]

i would guess with gems out there shouldn't be any secrets regarding builds?

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Suffuse

[deft osprey]

Yeah I’ll build around EoW

[rich raft]

Passive tree still unknown. As it has changed

[deft osprey]

Unique

Still no unique data

[tranquil raptor]

haha okay, thanks

[still rock]

a decent amt of these supports will literally never be used

trying hard to not be disappointed so far lol

[deft osprey]

Yup

https://poe2db.tw/us/Verglas

My ice wall build would use that

Unironically

[cobalt pollen]

homebrew trampletoe

[still rock]

what max life do they have at end game

[deft osprey]

You can juice it

I actually never paid attn to an amount

[static plinth]

@still rock Looks like gems got datamined?
https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_gems

Oh i guess you all already saw that oops

[still rock]

ye im just scrolling thru them atm

[deft osprey]

Cast on not dead?

https://poe2db.tw/us/Fluke

[static plinth]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[drowsy crane]

is there a pob version that has new ascendancies n stuff

[still rock]

no

[static plinth]

Oh shit they changed Spear of Solaris to Glory as well

That makes it's combo with Bloodhound Mark really interesting

Desperation is really really interesting

[still rock]

herald of blood seems good

[static plinth]

Domain is interesting but idk the current use cases

First Blood rocks

[still rock]

but like stuff like:
https://poe2db.tw/us/Cool_Headed

like why even make that

nobody cares lol

[static plinth]

Oh my fucking god

Thorns build is real

Go look at Barbs

[static plinth]

Man if it was Reduced it'd be awesome

[still rock]

poedb rip

[cobalt pollen]

bloodmage got 2 supp gems

[untold prawn]

Annnd website gone

[still rock]

back up rejoice

[static plinth]

Oh did it die thats why its dying

[cobalt pollen]

100% range on remnants gem

[static plinth]

Huh

Clash is cool

[cobalt pollen]

and 35% increased effectiveness but they disappear

[static plinth]

lmao Dauntless is funny

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Mysticism

not bad

[still rock]

looks awful

like never used category

[static plinth]

Not good

Cool

Probably strong for Infernalist specifically

[still rock]

even if you're reserving life it seems bad

[static plinth]

The fact they put in so much Thorns support is super fucking funny to me

[heady burrow]

you dont have to play one button build lol

[still rock]

15 spirit, thats an icing gem for sure

like if you have nothing better to take just slot it in

[cobalt pollen]

pinned enemies get bleeding aggravated

see red is cool too

tradeoff

and perfect for tank kitava

[static plinth]

Blindside looks really good

[deft osprey]

So my last build was an aura chrono with slow magnitude out the ass and 300+ spirit lol

[quasi tinsel]

ok I watched the ziggyD spear skills video and I'm going bleed spears for sure dot based gameplay not being a boring hit and run? multiple explosions? bleed contributes to heavy stun to then trigger aggrevate? 100% life recovery rate while mapping? pretty much every skill is a movement skill? I love it

[deft osprey]

I’m definitely going to test on normal league first before making a new league char

[static plinth]

Delayed Gratification might be really good? Hard to judge

[still rock]

a lot of the support gem design seems to be great if the game didnt force you into melting things before it reaches your vicinity

[static plinth]

Excoriate is awesome

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Commiserate

[still rock]

seems like more support that their endgame doesnt fit the games philosophy at all

[cobalt pollen]

bleed has the potential

[deft osprey]

This seems strong

[cobalt pollen]

but I wanna see bleed uniques

outside of beeble🅱️ite

[deft osprey]

Woah

[static plinth]

Okay retort support might be decent

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Blindside

15% more chance to crit is a multi to your crit rate no?

[static plinth]

Stormchain is really cool

[static plinth]

Yeah

Its a strong support

[deft osprey]

Isn’t that

Insane

[still rock]

yeah that one seems good

if you can blind elsewhere easily, which is probably true for most builds

[static plinth]

Blind support is also super super consistent

Combine with CALTROPS

My GOAT

[pallid wigeon]

Anything that looks good for Ritualist?

[rustic monolith]

someone convince me to go kitava or amazon

[static plinth]

Ritualist is a blank slate everything looks good for it

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Blind

Easy lmao

Crit Eye of Winter for me

[static plinth]

Are Caltrops secretly actually decent damage?

They can crit, they're projectiles, they get damage buffs from Thorns, they can get Rearm chance

60% of Dex as base damage

There's a world where caltrops deal good damage

Charged Shots is insanely good holy shit

[pallid wigeon]

I meant any support gems for charms or blood boil or anything to make their ritual sacrifice better. Since they release all the new gems, I just can't see anything worthwhile for these mechanics.

[still rock]

i like the idea of this parry stuff but realistically if youre trying to set up a parry so you can use them youll just get mogged by something else behind you i think, they really need to tone down usain bolt white mobs for me to get excited about using half of these gems

[twin sierra]

looks like we have all the skill gem numbers now too

[deft osprey]

Oh boy

[static plinth]

Deliberation looks good if you dont mind playing like PoE1

[deft osprey]

Just 20% more for 30% less Ms

[twin sierra]

need to look at it later when I can open pob to compare to old versions tho lol

[deft osprey]

Doesn’t seem too bad

[static plinth]

IMPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE

IMPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[twin sierra]

i did look at perfect strike and it seems the same aside from the already mentioned nerf in patch notes

[static plinth]

Malady is an insanely good support holy shit

[twin sierra]

so its likely still gonna be insane for warrior leveling

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Gambleshot

500 more years of spark

[heady burrow]

M'lady*

[drowsy crane]

god damn its actually so easy to get 90 all res on smith

[heady burrow]

so whats the strongest gun in the game

[static plinth]

Oh shit Primal Strikes sounds REALLY cool

[cobalt pollen]

pin + rusted spikes

[deft osprey]

So for sorc derange and blindside are the winners

Imo

[heady burrow]

whadafug do I play senpais

[still rock]

spectral volley sounds useful for a single target ability you dont use very often

i.e snipe

[deft osprey]

Suffuse also is a winner but only if you’re doing eye of winter stuff

[twin sierra]

wait they actually removed crit weakness from eye of winter

xdd

[deft osprey]

Yeah

They buffed it a lot though

[still rock]

what weapon is this for

sounds like its not meant to be here

[twin sierra]

i see

[heady burrow]

Flameblast does fucking insane damage now lmfaoooo

[still rock]

yeah it has a 15 second cd

[static plinth]

Spear

[deft osprey]

Chrono time

[deft osprey]

Oh let me see this

[heady burrow]

15 sec cd dont matter when u only need it to kill the boss

[dreamy kindle]

is the new ascendency for witch good after patch

[still rock]

yes we've all played it already and can tell you

[heady burrow]

ask @still rock theyve played the patch

[heavy niche]

Hello all, i have a question, not sure if this is the correct channel for it. I was playing Poison Pathfinder in 0.1. I was thinking of replaying it but i saw this note in the patch notes:

Poisonous Concoction now has 200% more Magnitude of Poison inflicted (previously 100%). Now deals base Physical Damage instead of Chaos Damage.

Does anyone have any idea how this will reflect the damage of the Poison Conncoction? Afaik, Posion scales with Chaos Damage dealt, unless i missed a note where Poison is now scaling with Phys dmg

[static plinth]

Poison is based off both Phys and Chaos damage

[cobalt pollen]

wheres the info

[static plinth]

But the poison itself is chaos damage

[still rock]

poison scales with phys and chaos cumulatively

[dreamy kindle]

so is the ascendency gonna be good? cause im only gonna make 1 character

i was monk last season

[deft osprey]

Sigh

Is there some place to compare the old values

[heavy niche]

so basically, going for armor break and posion will now be better than going for chaos nodes?

[still rock]

yes

[dreamy kindle]

ight bet, got any witch guide? never played her before

[still rock]

i do not

[heady burrow]

new flameblast does 3k damage at max stages instead of 2k

less stages now too so if you cancel it to move it doesnt do zero damage

[still rock]

is the % per stage better?

[heady burrow]

yeah

[deft osprey]

Wait

Is galvanic field new

[heady burrow]

doth not think so

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Galvanic_Field

I’ve never seen this in my life

Is it a unique skill?

[still rock]

oh hell nah flemblast got canned bro

[static plinth]

Not a single new gem generates charges do they

[deft osprey]

Oh they have the old 0.1 stuff now

On the same page

[deft osprey]

Yeeee

[still rock]

75% instead of 200%

[deft osprey]

I’m gonna run it

[still rock]

thats awful

[deft osprey]

On my chrono

[heady burrow]

charged shot gains charged arrows B) lol

[deft osprey]

Oh waiy

Sheesh

[still rock]

someone would have to run the numbers but its almost undoubtedly a nerf

and then 15s cd

nobody is touching this skill anymore

why do they do this lmao

[heady burrow]

wat, thats way higher with simple math

the base damage is triple

[still rock]

the difference between 2000 more or 750 more at max stages

[cobalt pollen]

flameblast amazon with the weakness ascend

[still rock]

and if youre only casting it once every 15s youre not using it besides max

[deft osprey]

Solar orb got buffed

By a lot actually

[cobalt pollen]

snapshot a ignite and burn them away

[deft osprey]

Yes

[heady burrow]

its gonna do some bigly ignites

[deft osprey]

Yeah

[heady burrow]

thats some oldschool poe1 meta

[deft osprey]

Orb of storms buffed

[heady burrow]

pizza sticks totems lfg

[deft osprey]

Living bomb buff

[heady burrow]

Is that one staff only

[cobalt pollen]

yea

[heady burrow]

Its like that and rune of power?

[cobalt pollen]

uniques might have it

sigil is another base

[deft osprey]

o7 flame wall

[cobalt pollen]

flame wall probably still crazy

[heady burrow]

Flame wall was good in every build kek

[deft osprey]

It’s also still the same

[cobalt pollen]

added dmg with embitter

[drowsy crane]

what does this mean and how do i get rid fo it

(artillery ballista)

[static plinth]

Equip a crossbow

[deft osprey]

Frost bolt buff

[drowsy crane]

does that skill actually require a crossbow, it doesn't right

[static plinth]

It does

Ballistas are crossbow skills

[drowsy crane]

huh

[deft osprey]

Hmm

Fireball seems to just have been circle jerked

[pearl sluice]

So if you want to do a fire infused spear, the only options for endurance charges is to go magma shield and block attacks and then you can fire spear. Or use resonance and you have to get power charges from profane veil? Why is lightning so much easier for everything 😂

[deft osprey]

They nerfed the firebolt part but buffed the direct dmg of it

Actually wait

They just nerfed it

You can’t have more than 8 fire bolts anymore

[heady burrow]

lol See Red is so troll wtf

watch there be a bug where you bleed something with See Red then rez it as a spectre for perma damage buff

[cobalt pollen]

incinerate buffed

[quasi tinsel]

See red is good with the skills that consume bleed like the crystals since you won't trigger it anyway

[still rock]

what does hobble do

assuming ms reduction?

[static plinth]

We dont know

I dont think its just move speed though

[cobalt pollen]

it's evasion reduction

[quasi tinsel]

ziggyd said in his video its eva reduction

[still rock]

oh nice

blood in the eyes probably good then

[cobalt pollen]

you can reduce evasion to 0

elemental expression got fatter

[still rock]

everyone and their mother using deliberation because of the lack of %more dmg supports, watch

lol

[cobalt pollen]

quite fatter

bleed looks cool but flameblast chrono with unleash sounds cool

[deft osprey]

Is convalescence new

[deft osprey]

You read my mind

[still rock]

unleash cant empower channeling skills (or skills with a cd)

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Convalescence

[cobalt pollen]

oh

[deft osprey]

Is this new

[cobalt pollen]

amazon flameblast then

[cobalt pollen]

kitava can tank but it might be spooky on increased action speed maps

getting slammed out of nowhere

because high as/ms rare with berserk or some shit

[halcyon perch]

What do you guys think with the crossbow buffs and bug fixes will crossbow leveling be faster than bow leveling? some of the crossbow skills got buffs even on their early damage

[quasi tinsel]

sa I've said, the see red stuff is for bleeding enemies with long duration and then immidietly nuking the bleed with hemocrystals/blood hunt

[heady burrow]

until that giga juiced rare 3 shots you in 1 frame kek

[quasi tinsel]

so the enemies never get a chance to get the buffs

[cobalt pollen]

haemo meta is just corrupting cry 2.0

ough

[quasi tinsel]

have you considered I have F1 race car driver reflexes?

[heady burrow]

remember those weird vaal zombie guys with the scythe hands , those always got absurd when juiced lol

[deft osprey]

o7 comet

[heady burrow]

Nah, I'd win

[cobalt pollen]

the freeze ghosts?

[heady burrow]

I think I'm thinking of a poe1 enemy

[cobalt pollen]

juicing the vaal factory guys that shoot spark attacks

[pallid wigeon]

Does Smith's manifest weapon copy your attacks or does it have its own attack speed and pattern.

[deft osprey]

Wait

What were you guys saying about bleed

How good is it

[static plinth]

It looks crazy good

[cobalt pollen]

lots of bleed multis

[quasi tinsel]

amazing, the synergy between skills is also great

like you can build your own combos

[cobalt pollen]

either for big bleed or cash out

[quasi tinsel]

based on support gems you put in

[heady burrow]

so many melee supports are "PLEASE ATTACK SLOWER PLEAAAAAAASE"

[deft osprey]

You can cook bone blast to bleed and it can create burning ground for eye of winter

[cobalt pollen]

you only need 1 shot

[deft osprey]

Now we’re cooking

[quasi tinsel]

there's a spear skill that makes your bleed contribute to heavy stun meter as well which is insane

[static plinth]

Not a spear skill

Its a Mark

[quasi tinsel]

oh right

[heady burrow]

but they only give you the bonus while using it :v

[cobalt pollen]

you only need 2 shots

[meager tulip]

Eh yo, whys there swords on poe2db now

[heady burrow]

truuuuuuuuuuuu

[meager tulip]

Were they always there

Theres literally greatswords

[static plinth]

Theyve been there for ages

[heady burrow]

you land that second hit theyre fuuuuuuucked

[deft osprey]

Ya

[meager tulip]

Oh 😦

[cobalt pollen]

giga bleed beetlebite seems to be on the menu

[heady burrow]

damn Adhere is dogshit lol

[meager tulip]

No way that they will be in game yeah since they or on db

[cobalt pollen]

bloodhunt

[heady burrow]

grenade skills dont bounce but deal 20% less damage

[quasi tinsel]

this is a buffTM

[heady burrow]

oil grenade always doesnt bounce

the rest you want to do damage :v

[still rock]

kinda nice for flash grenade

considering it got hella buffed dmg

312% to 408%

[heady burrow]

true its not like it wont flast every time anway

blind*

or rather stun

[deft osprey]

Wait wtf

[heady burrow]

it always blinds

[deft osprey]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Bone_Shrapnel

[heady burrow]

ohio

[deft osprey]

25% max life on a pinned target?!???

Uhhh

Is that crazy

Can you pin a boss?

[heady burrow]

yeah

[still rock]

yes but not consistently

[deft osprey]

Oh ok ggg

I get it

I understand it now

You want Sorcs to go phys

[heady burrow]

its gotta die while pinned and not be stuck in an animation kek

[still rock]

thats for clearing anyways, it doesnt really matter for bosses

but nice regardless

if youre pinning anyways

[heady burrow]

what if u get breach and rogue exiles in the boss room tho

[hoary bolt]

yeah but its 2 button clear

[deft osprey]

I need to research bleed

[hoary bolt]

you have to pin with one skill

[deft osprey]

Spreading bleed

[hoary bolt]

and then kill with another

[still rock]

ah true

[heady burrow]

guaranteed clear as long as you can pop the packs is kosher dills

[still rock]

didnt read that part

[heady burrow]

some rain of arrows shit might be nutso

@deft osprey it even has 13% crit chance lol

[pallid wigeon]

Charged shot seems crazy good late endgame for deadeye

[deft osprey]

Brother

They want sorcs going physically

https://poe2db.tw/us/Power_Siphon

Look at this lmao

300% buff

Not saying I’m going to use it

[heady burrow]

hittin that slurp

[deft osprey]

Can you use a power charge to apply/spread bleed

[still rock]

i mean it comes from a wand so the opportunity cost is low if you want to try it

[quasi tinsel]

should I go amazon for bleeds or is there a better option? I kinda like the open weakness stuff and crit can't be that bad especially late game provided that the hemocrystals can crit (I don't see why they couldn't)

[deft osprey]

Chrono bleedmancer with physical spells might go hard

[still rock]

ritualist seems nicer for bleeds specifically but unsure yet

[drowsy crane]

why do no streamer men have pobs yet

[still rock]

because pob is not current tree

in fact nobody even knows what the tree even looks like aside from small window views from ziggy's videos

[short mango]

do we happen to know when pob will be released? for .2

[deft osprey]

Might sound cray but I think I’m gonna go physical sorc lmao

Cook up with bleed mechanics

[short mango]

or is there any tree tools available presently?

[quasi tinsel]

blood boil seems nice, but then you go for charms? respec later into good rings? I don't feel like rings gonna do that much for a bleed build and the explosions and clear are covered by heralds and other bleed explosions anyways

[drowsy crane]

i wanna go artillery ballista kitava smith but that sounds like a complete quinn build

[brittle dagger]

I thought literally the same thing. But the only build that I can remotely feel like would work really well for that for some reason is a Herald build, with tamed beasts and specters

[still rock]

rings are good for everything

[deft osprey]

Is volatility a new mech

[still rock]

i think people are understating how good having an extra ring is lol

[deft osprey]

What is volatility exactly

[still rock]

because its not exciting or somn idk

[halcyon perch]

Holy gas arrow got shit on, base damage went from 80-250% to 30-94% the lvl 20 gem has the same base damage as the lvl 3 one did before and now it has less aoe and there is a cloud limit

[still rock]

new, so we dont know yet

[short mango]

power level across the board was brought down pretty substantially.

[still rock]

the volatility debuff is getting a new cluster though, according to the patch notes

[unreal girder]

Man artillery ballista got massive buffs

[deft osprey]

I see the vision

[still rock]

yeah it was pretty insanely busted tbh, i think i couldve walked through campaign with raidant grief and gas arrow and literally nothing else

[deft osprey]

Basically I need to find a way to pin/blind with one button

Explode/spread bleed with the other

[halcyon perch]

well crossbows will be crazy tho, most skills got like 10-30% buff and now the flat damage on them will be the 2h version instead of the 1h as it was before

[unreal girder]

Are they?

All Ive seen is hype on it

[still rock]

im ok with fart arrow taking a sideline this patch

[short mango]

reload mechanics, i'm unlikely to play just by default

[still rock]

ig it depends who you ask lmao

[unreal girder]

You barely feel them with some attack speed

[halcyon perch]

that got a bit smoother because reload speed scales with attack speed aswell so I'll give it a try

[unreal girder]

Just go deadeye

Deadeye xbows will be great

If I hadnt already played that I probably would

[halcyon perch]

yep planning on crossbow deadeye, wanted to go bonestorm deadeye since it was fun previous patch but the damage got halved lmao

[short mango]

are there any updated .2 tree's available? to mess with builds

[still rock]

no

hasnt come out yet

[void loom]

poe2db tree is not updated?

[still rock]

most of the changes will be in the bottom right quadrant, thats all i got

[still rock]

lemme look

i stand corrected

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/

new tree

[deft osprey]

Wait

MALADY

[unreal girder]

Any other xbow skill besides shockburst with potential to do well now I wonder

[pallid wigeon]

Check again, it got updated

[void loom]

So what are you guys building?

[still rock]

jank tactician companion tame beast thing

[short mango]

i might just go monk again. since shadow isn't released yet

[pallid wigeon]

Companion passive skill tree position is in the ranger area

[short mango]

deadeye is an option,

[halcyon perch]

shockburst is the only crossbow skill that got a small nerf from the ones I saw so far (10-15%) all the others got a 10-30% buff

[short mango]

i'll mess around with huntress as well

[unreal girder]

Rapid fire didnt get touched iirc

[still rock]

lmao they removed the minion nodes below merc

fuck

u fuckers

[halcyon perch]

it got a 7% buff at lvl 20 the early levels are the same

[unreal girder]

Even with the nerf, shockburst was so insane due to fresh clip

[void loom]

You can have only one companion right?

[unreal girder]

Im not sure it wont still be the best

[still rock]

keystone lets you have 2

trusted kinship

as long as they are different types

[void loom]

Oh!

[still rock]

my current build idea, but most likely going to be rough

[void loom]

poe 2 was my first time going all in into a arpg, and merc got me through first 2 acts so easily. It was crazy good.

[deft osprey]

We have tree?

[brittle dagger]

Y'all I'm sitting here trying to make a build for ritualist and it just isn't going to work very well. I'm calling it now. You get the one notable that sort of has a decent headhunter effect and everything else in the ascendency is absolute garbage

[halcyon perch]

Do you think bow is still the best for leveling or crossbow leveling should be good now with all the buffs?

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/

[brittle dagger]

You ain't got nothing to increase your damage at all. Nothing in the ascendancy points towards being good with a specific type of build. And nothing in the ascendancy helps any specific type of build

[unreal girder]

Crossbow was always good for lvling

[void loom]

This looks good!

[halcyon perch]

really? never tried I guess will do that then

[still rock]

the issue is that ar/eva sucks

so unless companions just end up being insane i will die a lot

[unreal girder]

Honestly with the tactician armour node and cloak of flame armour is gonna be pretty good

But its a lot of investment

[still rock]

well im planning on bringer of rain but might have to drop that

[void loom]

I have a feeling, SSF gonna be rough

[still rock]

so i can run 2h in main hand and sceptre offhand

[pallid wigeon]

Still don't understand what volatility is.

[still rock]

nobody does

[pallid wigeon]

Thought it would help with Ritualist blood boil but it seems to be a buff or debuff on yourself

[unreal girder]

Im doing kitava artillery ballistas and nobody can stop me

[still rock]

id imagine a buff yeah

based on the wording

but no clue what it does

this makes me think it is some form of buff that explodes at max stacks or something along those lines

[heady burrow]

hell yeah

[wispy needle]

Is there a way to make bleed/fire work together to anyones knowledge? Looking at the new gems i want to try a bleed build but I REALLY want to go Smith of Kitava

[still rock]

you can be smith without having to do fire damage

smith is just good for defenses even if you dont take the fire stuff

[drowsy crane]

you can go smith on literally any build in the game i think

[unreal girder]

Smith doesnt need to be fire yeah

[still rock]

max ele res is one of, if not the strongest defenses in the game

[wispy needle]

You have a point..smith>empower>bleed then with a spear

[unreal girder]

Yeah just go smith and then just take dmg on the tree

[still rock]

looks like they reduced a lot of the jewel sockets across the tree as well

sadge

[drowsy crane]

guys this does NOT seem like high dps

how the fuck do you scale totem damage

[still rock]

totems scale with your damage for the most part

[patent gale]

i know no one really knows anything about new patch, but what builds did have good explodes on them ? Im massive fan of profane bloom on poe1 and really want a similar type effect for my build i pick on poe 2

[still rock]

lich basically has occultist pop

new ascendancy in 0.2

for witch

[patent gale]

ooooooooooooooooo

this sounds good

thanks mate, will check it out

[drowsy crane]

oh ballistas actually care about the dps rolls on your weapon

i see

this changes things

[unreal girder]

Gem levels

[unreal girder]

Fairly certain they do not

Do they?

[drowsy crane]

i mean according to pob they do

[unreal girder]

Are you tactician?

[drowsy crane]

nope, smith

adding a flat roll to my weapon did change the dmg of my ballista but idk if thats just pob jank

[unreal girder]

Well, based on the gem description it shouldnt

[devout adder]

Seems like it. Warrior totems didn't care about weapon dmg afaik, just +levels and the two handers could get more.

[still rock]

theres also this new effect called incision i see on the tree

seems bleed related

ah i see

[heady burrow]

its about to be smith of kitava chober meta scaling the fire spell on melee hit with minion damage lfg

[still rock]

sounds properly jank

GL

[drowsy crane]

wait

that's kinda juiced

[narrow grail]

Would amazon ascendancy node be calculated before this or is this affected by the base chance only?

[heady burrow]

maybe after some pokemon master tactician pin stacker for group

[drowsy crane]

i wonder how many divines infernoclasp is gonna be on hc trade

[heady burrow]

honestly probably not awful for league start, can scale everything with minion damage and take the conjure weapons

[still rock]

based on the wording on Penetrate i'd assume that you only get accuracy rating from the weapon itself, unless im mistaken

[drowsy crane]

resolute technique doesn't work on totems right

is pob just being dumb

[heady burrow]

Penetrate just means that the best roll on a spear is %Phys, Hybrid %Phys& Accuracy, and Accuracy I'm pretty sure

[void loom]

how will you solve spirit problems on smith?

[drowsy crane]

what spirit problems

[heady burrow]

because then it does more damage than having the flat phys roll and it will have an absurd crit chance with the previous node

[void loom]

spirit for minions

[void loom]

context

[drowsy crane]

you're not actually a minion build w that

chober has a line that says miniond mg affects you

[heady burrow]

yeah chober is jsut easy scaling for league start with jank builds

increased minion damage would scale your melee attack, the fire spell cast by the "cast fire spell on melee hit" and the Manifest Weapons

[drowsy crane]

hell yea dude now this is jank

[still rock]

pretty sure they get RT in poe2

since they are using your hits.. technically

rule of thumb is "You are not the totem, the totem is you."

but obviously dont take it for a creed lol

[heady burrow]

im gonna tame a beast with a fat aura and have it buff my siege ballistas lfg

[still rock]

yeah my next step is to plan out which monster mods i want on my beasts

i have my tree mostly done

for now

[heady burrow]

i hope double companion is worth it

[void loom]

No one playing raise spectre skill?

[still rock]

30% less defenses sucks but im not worried about it

[bronze sequoia]

Sorry, What gives double companion?

[still rock]

i am playing this off the cuff by how much spirit i have available, so ill look for a spectre buffer if they exist if i can fit it in

[heady burrow]

trusted kinship

[quasi rose]

Im a shit theorycrafter, that sounds like chinese in my head.

[heady burrow]

oh shit

[still rock]

e.g. every 2 armor/es/eva you have your companions get 1 armor/es/eva

and you get one more companion

[quasi rose]

Ahh ty

❤️

[halcyon perch]

Lot of people were laughing that they forgot Eye of Winter crit weakness but just checked the gem and they removed it lmao, why didnt they say in the notes? Thats not a number change or did they do it after?

[bronze sequoia]

-30% less defence. Oof

[still rock]

yeah, sucks

but im running this mostly as a minion build so hopefully i can just run around like an idiot while they do shit

[heady burrow]

yeah, hoping you can tame some strange that makes you tankier

[halcyon perch]

well rares have discipline aura and stuff so you can probably get some good rares

[heady burrow]

there are nodes for +60% increased defenses when in presence of a companion

but still, 30 LESS is murder

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Archnemesis

[heady burrow]

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

THE VISION FATHER

I SEE IT

[still rock]

probably aiming for one to have phys dmg aura

atleast

[heady burrow]

oh its just called archnemesis on the website bless

[still rock]

rare monster mods are mostly copied over from the archnemesis system from poe1, most likely why

[heady burrow]

Did you remember to thank the pain today?

Thank you Pain

[still rock]

i wonder if their temporal bubble counts for you inside of it

would be kind of nuts

lots of things to test here

[heady burrow]

extra physical damage aura with ballistas could be smocaine 3

waddefuq

oh wait summons is spears rip

[silver urchin]

Did they say in the FAQ or elsewhere: Smith of Kitava's Manifest Weapon, does it only summon a copy of your main hand, or do you get two for dual wielding?

[still rock]

no idea

based on current info, the showcase p much just said it magically makes your weapon do damage lol

not much to go on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0EEDsHsuX8

[heady burrow]

bros I should sleep so I can wake up and collect natural resources for some food

I bless all of your builds

🙏

[halcyon perch]

Its like animate weapon but doesn't cost spirit and it uses skills from that weapon type, so if you use a mace it will use slams if you use a bow it will use bow skills etc. not sure about dual wielding

[still rock]

yeah assuming its just animate weapon but the one you have equipped

rather than one on the ground

and you only get one

[silver urchin]

yeah I understand how the minion should attack, but if you can get two from dual wielding, then I may jsut pivot my first build

[somber moat]

im going to start warrior with spear, pls stop me someone

[still rock]

something we dont know - my assumption is that it'd be your main hand but that could be wrong

[halcyon perch]

Mark said he is not sure in the ghazzy interview, he said it might be just your mainhand but it could be a minion that uses both your weapons, he didn't remember

[still rock]

i wont

[hoary bolt]

here you go lads

[silver urchin]

Yeah, I've been browsing threads for a bit, and someone mentioned in the Ghazzy interview as well that it has Limit 1, which is cringe as hell if true. That would indeed make it so it would either need to DW them

[silver urchin]

Booooooooo

[still rock]

oh its a companion

[halcyon perch]

the only downside there is that you will need a bunch of dex since spears are hybrid str/dex bases with more on the dex side

[silver urchin]

RIP the Giant's Blood 4x 2H dream

[still rock]

[silver urchin]

Maaaan I was actually hoping I could have a fun build to start with. Back to the drawing board

[halcyon perch]

oh you can use the 2 companion keystone then, are they immortal like anime weapons?

[somber moat]

btw, sunder damage is doubled if consider speed

and it wasnt weak before

bonk

[halcyon perch]

yeah melee and crossbows look very juicy this patch, but both felt so cluncky to play before

[still rock]

thats a lot of travelling but i'd assume it would work because the skill itself doesnt say there is a limit, so the limit of one must be on the companion limit rather than the skill itself

[somber moat]

thats why I am starting spears on warrior, to have an escape route

[still rock]

heres this anyways since that inspired me to look this up

so it is indeed a meta skill

i thought theyd do that

[sterile latch]

Is there a pob expert in the chat ? I think Incinerate is wrongly calculted (aintnoway my dps is THAT low), i think it's due to the stages... but i cant find how to change it

[halcyon perch]

You could see it already on the top left in the temper weapon section of the reveal where he did stampede 3 times to trigger 1 firestorm

[neat bison]

I guess if you played spear warrior you’d kind of already be close to the companion keystone

For the spear nodes

[still rock]

god the spear cluster is so uninspired lmfao

[halcyon perch]

mjölner will be the same which sucks imo

[still rock]

more damage, more as, more crit

ok cool

flavorless

[neat bison]

Yea

[glass anchor]

at least you don't feel forced to take it

[still rock]

if youre playing spears you most likely will

tbf

[sterile latch]

i prefer flavorless than kb on hit like staves

[still rock]

i think poe2 is all about flavor baked into the skills anyways, im just being pedantic

skill flavor > passive tree flavor (in terms of poe2 philosophy)

[short mango]

so i'll likely test out several things across the season. . .however, what are some safer starters that can reach and rip through maps fairly early on. before the economy gets . . . a bit nutty

[still rock]

those types of questions are better for when the game is past launch

[short mango]

LA deadeye? monk may still be decent

[still rock]

we dont really know what is safe

we're the beta testers

[short mango]

problem is that it's a hit the ground running thing. without a plan to approach it i'll be miles behind before i realize how far behind i am

[halcyon perch]

imo crossbows are a safe bet, also melee (slams) probably plays same-ish as before, everything else got big changes and spears are new so other than those two I have no good guesses

[short mango]

if i don't get some solid currency going early on. it can get pretty . . . rough to build things later for testing purposes

[still rock]

the safest thing to do based on poe precedent is to look at what builds performed well previously on low investment and werent touched on much in the current patch

and yeah i agree, xbow seems relatively unchanged

[short mango]

in that regard monk does well enough on low economy. so does LA deadeye?

the changes i saw to it wouldn't really impact most of monks gameplay just some of the more niche hyper speed clear builds

[dawn spire]

If anything, qstaff builds will be smoother for lower budget because they're getting lower mana costs

[short mango]

ya and you can upgrade skills properly. . . losing grim feast will be painful af for survival though. but most other things seem in tact

[dawn spire]

As long as you're not relying on freeze. Those are gonna be harder to freeze with

[short mango]

the main hits were the herald AoE chaining, freeze buildup nerf (which you generate so much already you'll be fine if built properly), and bell which lets be honest. even at 15% of it's relative strength will still delete a lot of bosses

[dawn spire]

And you're gonna get inflicted with ailments more often

If you're doing physical damage, you're also gonna be doing more damage since mobs lost 30% armor

[still rock]

qstaff monk was fairly privileged comparatively to other classes, i think theyll be still very good

the reliance on freeze was a meme

they just didnt want to nerf people mid season

[short mango]

they didn't rely on it at all. but it was nice. and even a 48% nerf to buildup. now you just take the quaterstaff node and one other freeze buildup and you can offset most of it

[still rock]

i mean

it was prretty insane how much they froze and refroze

[short mango]

mhm. and even a 48% nerf to that it was so over the top you'll still get the effect reliably

[dawn spire]

Tbf, a lot of that was because they were doing insane damage with potcg, howa, and attribute stacking

[still rock]

even without it imo, but yeah it was overtuned for sure

[short mango]

potcg, howa?

[still rock]

pillar of the caged god, hands of wisdom and action

[short mango]

stat stacking broke anything that used it. monks even without that tore through shit. . the biggest hit will be grim feast survival imo. . . bell will be fine, it's now somewhat balanced, freezing will be fine. 2nd hardest hit is the chaining of heralds for AoE. so you'll likely need to do the thunder wave skill

[still rock]

i do wish they touched on endgame monster speed because a lot of people relied on grim feast to survive through mapping. i wouldnt mind a slower pace of the game with how defenses currently exist, but with how fast it is the defenses we have at hand dont seem adequate

we'll see ig

[short mango]

grim feast + IC carried a lot of the defensives on monk.

[candid otter]

blasphemy + temporal chains makes it not that bad

[short mango]

CI not IC i think

[dawn spire]

Plus chronomancer

[candid otter]

ah yeah 100% slow build 😄

[still rock]

chrono temp chains was nice, that was my first character

[dawn spire]

I'm gonna be chronomancing the hell out of league start, probably

[short mango]

i'm a 1/3 split between monk, huntress, and LA deadeye

[still rock]

but i think one of the biggest criticisms of build planning in 0.1 was that defenses were scuffed and it felt mandatory to run ES + grim feast and they didnt touch on that at all, so im slightly disappointed

[short mango]

i kinda wanna mess with huntress it likely fits my style for goign in and out frequently, however it almost seems overly reliant on longer combo's

[candid otter]

I am going to do witch hunter in the next patch with new helmet unique lol

7k elemental barrier is good food

[short mango]

just deleted grim feast so now we're just all squishy af

[dawn spire]

They killed lightning rod + orb of storms so I refuse to go lightning arrow out of solidarity for my dead friend

[still rock]

until you get hit by the usain bolt white mob for 4k phys dmg

[opaque bluff]

With the new supports up on poe2db, anyone see anything useful for chaos dot? The only one I can see is the 30% more when on full mana

[dreamy kindle]

bleed or lightning spear better

[candid otter]

just don't get bro. But yeah

[short mango]

no idea coral. don't know skill gem strengths

[candid otter]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/y45ek00g OR that

With the new shield

and +2 minions talent

[still rock]

derange, deliberation

[short mango]

is that a turret build or something? didn't look

[candid otter]

ice mage lol

[short mango]

+2 miniions idk if that counts for totems

aah

right gemling is basically everything

[candid otter]

7k life, we are living now

[short mango]

do health pots even heal you to full at that hp

[still rock]

@opaque bluff im not going to be playing edc this patch most likely out of spite for contagion not getting aoe application but ill still support people playing it:
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1316077636866412625

[ebon cargo]

lol thats sick

[short mango]

new support gems out eh?

[candid otter]

btw, they nerfed pain offering but add new gem, which buffs minions even more lol

[short mango]

how to separate the new ones from the old ones

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Dawn_of_the_Hunt_gems

[neat bison]

I guess I need the power charge to endurance conversion if I want to play flame infused spear

[candid otter]

Muster support gem kinda op

[short mango]

idk how i feel about this

the skills i'd want to stack up "recently used" would be mostly spammed skills

[neat bison]

Cadence is OP if you have the right skills, trash otherwise

[still rock]

yeah minion builds are gunna eat imo

[candid otter]

more damage

[still rock]

lich giving unholy might to allies as well

ez

[short mango]

cadence seems like it needs a skill that hits 3-4 times and then never gets used for 4 seconds after

[candid otter]

35% more damage for 5 minions of different type lol

[short mango]

or is slow enough that you can't hit more than 6 times in 4 seconds.

[candid otter]

not problematic at all

[short mango]

maybe it's an attempt to address minion imbalance and stacking the same minion over and over?

[candid otter]

nope, we are still stacking

[short mango]

where it's a much lower value

[candid otter]

I just get a 5 less of the same type

my gemling build has 21 minion

*4

[short mango]

curious which skills does cadence go on. . . 6 skills in 4 seconds, so anything at what .6 speed or slower? (after the attack speed boost)

not monk, not LA . . maybe huntress if they cycle through enough

[still rock]

think youre misreading the gem - its every use of the skill, not every hit

[minor tree]

ok hear me out:

amazon with redflare (20% to gain power charge on hit body armor), infuse weapon
resonance converts power charges to endurance
rally support consumes all endurance charges on skill use, has to be strike or slam (or could be seismic warcry instead)

we spamming infusions bois

[wooden haven]

Did they simply Update Sparks tooltip? It now says 0.66 CD to Hit again. Wasnt it Always Like this?

Ignoring the 15% dmg Nerf for now

[short mango]

no. i'm reading it as every use. 6 casts/uses within 4 seconds. . . 4/6 = .66 attack speed. so if something is slower than .66 the buff would remain permanently even in full uptime (if .66 post buff)

[candid otter]

spark also lost projectile count massively in the patch

or I am missreading smth

[wooden haven]

Yeah that was known from Patchnotes

[short mango]

spark projectiles were cut in half right?

[wooden haven]

The dmg Nerf and new Hit cooldown Line is datamined

[still rock]

ah i see what you mean, then yes but that probably also depends on item base

for ur wep

spark seems mogged on hard

[short mango]

ya so long as a skill is used less frequently than once every .66 seconds but still fast enough to count as "used frequently" then it would be able to stack up and take full advantage of cadence.

[unreal girder]

How are minions looking now with gem info?

[candid otter]

Dark Pact might be extremely powerful for lich

[short mango]

if my math is right. at just over 1 second intervals between hits it matches the attack speed of martial tempo. but can't go past 5

3 stacks = martial tempo (24% vs 25. . close enough)

that's still up to 40% attack speed. so very useful for slow attacking skills that you'd want to use a lot of

[still rock]

so mace skills

funny that the image is a ranger

[glass anchor]

I think cadence fits spear primal strikes quite nicely since it is a 4 cast combo and has reduced speed on the final hit, and you need to reapply shock on some other skill afterwards to get the payoff anyway

[short mango]

it'll be good for huntress in general i think. probably warrior builds too

huntress so combo oriented. . . it's one of the thigns i like and dislike odly enough. some of those combo's look too intricate and take too long to get off the ground

[still rock]

almost as if the games endgame doesnt have its own skills in mind

[short mango]

for boss fights i think the combo playstyle works well. just not so much for maps if they don't include more longer fights like bosses

[neat bison]

I think the slam detonator will be a viable combo but the whirlwinds seem sketchy

Later in the game

[still rock]

the fact that a majority of mace users just used basic mace strike in endgame is a testament to that

[short mango]

ya it'll be spear play later in the game for maps i think. the throw skills. and the in/out melee stuff more for bosses

with some setup figured out to solve frenzy charges that enable it

[still rock]

seems like theres a lot more bossing in endgame tho so im hopeful for that

[short mango]

same. bossing will be nice. and one of the reasons certain combo's in last path needed deleted (bell, orb + lightening rod to name 2)

[still rock]

0.1 bell is so nuts lol

[short mango]

it's .25 now right?

250ms?

[still rock]

0.2

oh

i meant game version

lol

[short mango]

aah

ya

it's going to .25, and having it's damage be full physical conversion (physical elemental damage). and it's dmg per resonance looks to be waht 60% cut? i forget the exact value

[tight zenith]

where can you find gem info ?

[short mango]

it also takes 10 hits to build it up

that said, 10 hits part almost doesn't matter with the attack speed of late game monk

"almost"

[unreal girder]

Poedb

[short mango]

but does mean charged staff to dual proc the bell won't be so valuable

[warped jackal]

Anyone know if there is a way to proc mana leech with minions? For example a way to have reality rending on minions?

i have something in mind and would be very good if its possible or not

[shadow remnant]

Yall think acc stacking crit or ele infusion amazon would be better early on? Was thinking to start with elemental and switch to a bleed/crit later on

[wooden haven]

Damn lvl 28 Spark lost about 25% Base dmg compared to 0.1

[shadow remnant]

But I dunno what skills would be good on elemental aside from sundering strike as the core

[solar walrus]

sums up how i see PoE2 support gems xD maybe you will use it in your builds

use it fast...will probably get nerfed soon

[still rock]

really funny bro

i almost fell out of my chair ngl

[gilded tangle]

Are you people doing minions lich or inf?

[atomic totem]

So sunder totem build is just gutted now right?

[still rock]

if lich isnt meta minion build in 2 weeks ill eat my socks

[gilded tangle]

So ill go lich then

[still rock]

buffed unholy might for allies is stronk

just have to stack mana

[neat bison]

Both should be good

[gilded tangle]

Does that apply to minion dmg?

[livid ridge]

Minions count as allies

[neat bison]

Infernalist probably is easier to gear and the 50% as extra fire is nice as well as beidats will

but lich probably nuts high end

[gilded tangle]

ayay

[livid ridge]

The 10% increased spirit on the tree is pretty nice

right next to the presence nodes too

[dull spade]

do i have to get a new spectre every map? session? can i just resummon it even if the specific one i got died?

[candid otter]

gemling might actually be a contender lol

[livid ridge]

It resummons

[candid otter]

+2 to minion skills kinda cooks

+10% quality

[gilded tangle]

Gemling?

[candid otter]

yep

[neat bison]

Specters revive like Skellies

[gilded tangle]

Sorry im a noob, what is gemling?

[dull spade]

oh so i get to "keep" it till i change my mind?

[candid otter]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/y45ek00g

[gilded tangle]

Ah

[livid ridge]

If you change your mind just summon a new spectre with a new gem

[dull spade]

lich is really absurdly tanky :O i almost consider going it given it can have infinite ES that seemingly gives 28% true dmg reduce

[livid ridge]

Until then it'll resummon like any other minion

[dull spade]

wait so i need a new 6link if i end up realizing the spectre i chose is poop?

[livid ridge]

Yes

[gilded tangle]

Is there any lich minion guides out?

[neat bison]

They said they were going to add a way soon for being able to unbind from the gem but IDK if it made it in

In an interview

[dull spade]

uff that makes the thing so volatile.. thanks for the extra info

[dull spade]

you can pretty much copy infernalist builds

minion nodes are really straight forward

however wait for the ttalent tree changes

[livid ridge]

Id stick with max a 5 link until spectres are kinda balanced or you find an obscure op spectre

[dull spade]

i guess ye

[livid ridge]

Passive tree changes are out

[candid otter]

It will be kinda funny if you can count each differnt mob scepter as different mob type in Muster gem.

*spectre

[dull spade]

ingame or in pob or where

[livid ridge]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/

[dull spade]

ty ty

[candid otter]

m what

nvm

[neat bison]

When Marauder drops I’m gonna spin so hard

[candid otter]

ahaha

[livid ridge]

My fav node so far

[candid otter]

spirit here, we are eating good minion builds

combined 10% spirit

yeehaw

[neat bison]

How much effective spirit did we actually lose from scepters?

[candid otter]

nice name lol

they removed minion nodes from bottom side looks like

[silent matrix]

I think I found my build

[candid otter]

class specific skills?

what

[static torrent]

The starting clusters for the Int start have different passives depending on whether you pick Sorceress or Witch

Presumably, the same will apply to Ranger and Huntress as well.

[livid ridge]

Beat me to it

[marsh sleet]

New to poe whats a good merc xbow build

[candid otter]

it's in outer ring, not starting cluster 😐

[neat bison]

The ones they are mentioning aren’t in starter zones yea

[eager echo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/3FUY34wT40

How is this a buff?

Proj got slightly more dmg

But dot got nuked

[silent matrix]

other way around

second is 0.1* version, it says so top left

[eager echo]

Oh im a dumbass

Tnx

[static torrent]

I would assume that it's an issue with poe2db, then, because that passive looks awfully similar to one in the starting cluster for the Witch.

The Witch effect, anyway

[candid otter]

same here lol

[dawn spire]

alright, I'm confirmed going chaos dot chrono. These supports are fucking insane AND ED got hella buffed?

ED + hourglass + zenith + dauntless for opening a boss fight might just kill it outright

and then a second ED for later on if they're not dead

[static torrent]

Correction, it looks like this effect

From non-Witch specific clusters

[candid otter]

well it looks like not only this skill, is kinda wrong in poedb

[static torrent]

Anyway, I highly doubt that this is the case in the actual game, I'd assume whatever was changed with the update made poe2db behave weird with the passive tree

[candid otter]

nice

[hoary bolt]

hailstorm rounds giga buffed cool

132% to 204%, and also lost the 50% less reload speed

so double the passive bolt charge rate

[candid otter]

cold damage is unfortunately hard to get increased for mercenary

[quasi tinsel]

I kinda want to play ritualist for the corrupted blood node but crit bleed accu stacking amazon makes so much more sense

like the tree basically makes itself it's insane

[lethal oxide]

would bleed conc be ok in engame? idc about how broken it was in 0.1. i just want a decent map experience

[quasi tinsel]

you have to pivot so much harder left for aggravate on ritualist or be ok with 1 sec duration bleeds

[lethal oxide]

1 sec is aight. i'm worried about flask changes tho

[neat bison]

I think it’s more of a supplementary skill than a main skill

[candid otter]

They killed concoctions 😦

[neat bison]

Gotta be unarmed and all

[candid otter]

Aka... No projectile level for u

[primal valve]

Looking at Bleed Huntress right now, would Amazon with the Crit stuff be better than Ritualist? Don’t know Bleed stuff at all but the spear skills and HoB looking quite coolio

[lethal oxide]

again, idc about 10m dps or however much it was in 0.1. if i get like 1-2m i'm fine

[neat bison]

Crit means bigger hit which means bigger bleed

[lethal oxide]

hmm oke

[candid otter]

100000 max

all damage comes from level

and projectile level is hard to get outside of the weapon and amulet

[primal valve]

Good to know, would’ve loved to use Ritualist with Blood Boil to be on theme but from what I gathered is that Blood Boil is kinda bad

[lethal oxide]

100k dps seems a bit weird. with so much more % bleed magnitude

[candid otter]

before: after

[quasi tinsel]

I do think so

[neat bison]

I feel like Ritualist probably can have a higher top end with great gear but Amazon is probably better most of the time @primal valve

Thing about blood boil is it’s corrupted blood

Which isn’t actually bleed

[primal valve]

Ohhhhh

Yeah good point

[stuck ocean]

Hey all. I heard that in 0.1.0 that Sacrifice and Profane Ritual were bugged in that you couldn't use Profane Ritual on your Skeletal Warriors, for example, to gain Power Charges.

Was this ever fixed, or will be fixed in 0.2.0?

[quasi tinsel]

you get nodes that makes bleeds stronger if you crit, you get free aggrevate on crit, you get the acc scalling for free attack speed, everything is on the same side of the tree and close to each other and there's a tiny miniscule chance that the bloodshards from that one support will be able to crit(so small like 0.005% chance but still)

oh and free 50% more damage sometimes on bosses while you are going trough acts which is probably the worst part of bleed

and ritualist gets corrupted blood while you clearing which already is covered with like 4 different explosions from bleed

[primal valve]

That is quite insightful, thank you

I was just looking at the Bleed Stuff and that Haemocrystals and thought “hell yeah, that sounds metal” lmao

[quasi tinsel]

yeah they are neat, and they look awesome too

[neat bison]

I think it will be a fun play style for sure

Bleed got more support than I expected

[indigo dove]

yo, is it possible for shocked ground to refresh elemental sundering continuously?

[gloomy ice]

how to deal with energy shield in mapping and stuff though? you cant bleed unless it is down right?

[indigo dove]

consume shock -> reshock from ground -> consume shock -> repeat

[gloomy ice]

or am i missing something

[quasi tinsel]

oh right and while you are mapping you are gonna get Rip (and Tear) two supports that increase your life recovery % which is basically a whole 2 ascendancy points on ritualist

[static torrent]

Also, I don't think it's a duration

So it's literally just the one pulse

If the enemy is Shocked again, you'd need to use another Elemental Sundering

[neat bison]

It is a problem, they said that enemies shouldn’t have like 4x their life in ES anymore tho, so hopefully you can just hit through it

[indigo dove]

wait so is it one pulse per unique ailment?

[static torrent]

No, it's a single pulse that will consume up to 9 ailments in one go

The explosions that follow aren't the same pulse, they're just damaging explosions

[indigo dove]

i thought it would be like bell and all 9 pulses would trigger in like 18 ticks

[unreal girder]

anyone with a clue about minions doing kitava minions? kinda interested but i've literally never played minions in poe1 or 2 😄

[static torrent]

No, because Tempest Bell is a Duration effect, this is just a single use thing.

[indigo dove]

thank you ❤️

[heady palm]

Which fire spells would go nicely with this?

Assuming a melee mace build

i guess molten blast + fire wall work

but I despise molten blast

DD maybe? idk

[distant glade]

Is mace strike with cultist hammer still good for aoe?

Does that use armour explosion? Or just the cultist hammer aoe

[heady palm]

based on the gems they added and AoE on attack ascendancies, I'd guess it's heavily nerfed now

[unreal girder]

do we know if you can link multiple stuff to it?

[heady palm]

i think it will have supports available yeha

[unreal girder]

no I mean

multiple skills

[distant glade]

Wym aoe on attack ascendancies

[heady palm]

nah, probably just one

[heady palm]

Temper weapon as an example
Channel => 4 big aoe hits afterwards

its like they put the cultist hammer and threw it into an ascendancy / channel

[distant glade]

Channel every 4 attacks lol

Great

[static torrent]

If it's like the other Trigger Meta skills, you can socket more than one, but then you need to build up more Energy to trigger them.

[heady palm]

maybe skill speed / attack speed affects it, but who knows

[pseudo jay]

anyone knows how much energy you get for this per hit? it does not state how much energy you gain. 🙏