2┃build-planning

[worthy inlet]

no, it

it's been my only char lol

do you have a good merc leveling build you'd recommend?

[rich raft]

Nah. Haven’t even rolled a merc. Not the sort of gameplay that interests me

[worthy inlet]

alright... thanks man... I'm gonna try and revive my merc and see where I'm at... just found a build on mobalytics that seems good enough

[unkempt escarp]

Thoughts on ways to make use of Elemental Invocation on Monk? Initially slapped in Ball Lightning and Lightning Warp (in that order) because it's funny.

[left matrix]

Shattering blow works, but so does the devastate Support Gem

Probably better than poison yeah, as the corrosion is relative to the damage dealt which is a different scaling mechanism.

Where the stun is proportional to physical damage dealt, which you're already stacking if you intend to break armour

Resonating shield strips flat armour, its great against targets with low armour, terrible against targets with large armour.

[gloomy linden]

is 650% rarity drop rate good?

[left matrix]

For a rarity cull aura bot, decent.

For total rarity in a map, very good,

For total rarity on a build that is solofarming, probably hella overkill, and ur likely an autobomber :G

[sage orbit]

Quick question, why are players buying magic corrupted sapphires with crit chance and energy shield for like lots of divs?

[mint summit]

Those are good stats, and https://poe2db.tw/us/The_Adorned

[atomic nymph]

Most players buying that are using adored jewel

So even magic jewels sell

[steel dagger]

Thats what I do. Makes the game so much more fun to me to not feel overwhelmed. And as I get more into it I can start deviating from it.

[fringe lagoon]

maxroll/mobalytics - for late endgame I'd say look up poe2 ninja exports as not always builds on these two sites are enough

[oblique bloom]

So does attribute stacking only work with that “staff of the caged god” quarter staff or are there other options of similar effect? (I have hardly looked into that build so bare with me)

[sage orbit]

it is possible to make it work without caged god

just not as good

[spare talon]

If you stat stack then it's BiS

[oblique bloom]

I just got super lucky and had someone give me one for 2 exalted

Soooo ig im good now lol

[spare talon]

Lol

[sage orbit]

they are not expensive at all

[spare talon]

What does it have on

[sage orbit]

atleast a 2-2-10 2 socket one

[spare talon]

If it's basic one then you aren't lucky at all

[oblique bloom]

2, 2, 11

Corrupted, 2 slots

With range

[sage orbit]

not bad

[oblique bloom]

16% range

[sage orbit]

could have 3 sockets

[spare talon]

Good enough ig

[oblique bloom]

Yeah I mean more than usable

[sage orbit]

just keep in mind that stat stacking is expensive

a would say, 7-10 div minimal

[oblique bloom]

Yeah I’m using this staff for a monk for now, later once I get my monk to endgame I’ll run a gemling

[spare talon]

Is there any build y'all would recommend for 270 divines budget

[spare talon]

No need to tbh

Works on both

[sage orbit]

stat stacking gemling or invoker

[spare talon]

Both have advantages and disadvantages

Got both ran both

[oblique bloom]

Aight

[hearty gust]

U can get like 1mil dps with a monk for 260 div

[spare talon]

What would it contain

[hearty gust]

Stat stacking

Tempest flurry

[spare talon]

Aha I did it before

And I'm about to do it again

[hearty gust]

I stopped lol need to much div now to upgrade

[spare talon]

Wanna show me what u got?

[hearty gust]

Gear wise?

[spare talon]

Yup

[hearty gust]

I can yea I'm like 3k div in though

[spare talon]

I just wanna see it

[shadow zephyr]

So I know grenade shotguns work, and I know Sunder Shotguns work.

I've also confirmed that poison gas arrow clouds and poisonburst arrow explosions shotgun. <Snipe does too, but if they're close enough to shotgun with snipe I'm using it wrong IMO>

Molten Blast secondary projectiles also seem to work.

The extra arrow modifier from bows doesn't actually add to the number of projectiles fired for some reason in the skill tab, either- is it possible that unlike scattershot all extra-arrow projectiles from bows automatically shotgun?

[hearty gust]

I'll dm u

[spare talon]

Oki

[silent glade]

can you clarify exactly what you're asking and I can give you an answer?

[shadow zephyr]

Bows with "Fire (an) extra arrow(s)" modifiers don't show those extra projectiles on the skill readout. (Unlike, for example, scattershot support gem)

Does that mean those are 'separate' projectiles and can hit the same target, i.e 'shotgun' effect?

I'm setup for a poison build with a bunch of explosion effects so I can't test practically without making a new character first

[silent glade]

no, that's just a display bug (which I'll go fix now). they are no different to additional projectiles from other sources

[shadow zephyr]

I appreciate the heads up. 🙂

[shadow zephyr]

Not to be greedy, but if you're the gem display department, mind if I toss this onto the stack (Cast on Block via Svalinn)

[silent glade]

(okay this is slightly more complicated to fix than expected, might not be a simple fix 😅 )

[shadow zephyr]

😄

[shadow zephyr]

No worries, I've just been tripling my dps damage in my head since the explosions overlap 😄

the mechanic clarity was what I needed to know, might've switched off of explosions for direct hit damage

<Poisonburst and gas arrow don't shotgun on hit, but the AoE's do 🙂 >

[silent glade]

controller UI programming is a bit outside my department unfortunately, I go as far as stat descriptions and display. I know the controller UI team is working on stuff like this though

[shadow zephyr]

Got it. It's pretty cool that you're floating around here to grab ahold of stuff like this regardless, it's appreciated.

[last horizon]

whoa someone just bought a white stellar amulet for 1 div from me have the prices gone up THAT much?

[woven depot]

You set that price expecting it not to sell?

but ye inflation goes hard when currency can be farmed

[last horizon]

no someone was like "WTB for 1 div"

even though most others offer like 240ex

[woven depot]

Whaaa

crazy tbh

[last horizon]

yeah!

[woven depot]

But 240ex was like 3 weeks ago iirc

[last horizon]

no, it's back to that

[woven depot]

I sold a couple around 700 last week

[last horizon]

I see it right now

240ex

[woven depot]

Nature is healing 🙏

[craggy ice]

they are worth .5-1 div per

you can sell for 1 div usually on tm

and people will prob pay more than 1 div per in bulk

smth like 70d for 60

[craggy ice]

some people also just prefer to buy per div bc it takes a long time to trade when you're dealing with hundreds of exalts

if you're buying like 60 stellars having to punch in hundreds of ex per stellar would be a nightmare lol

[hoary bolt]

they really need to port over both ctrl right clicking entire inventories of currency, and also holding alt for quantity check in the inventory window

[hybrid ocean]

We actually already have that, it's just only for the currency exchange tab

[sage orbit]

im running a invoker stat stacker, should i use electrocute on tempest flurry?

[rigid ravine]

no

[uncut nexus]

is tri herald working with totems or not

[left matrix]

@compact vortex do you have a POB?

[compact vortex]

I don't even know what that is, so that's probably a no.

[left matrix]

:D while you're searching up on trials,
Also youtube what POB2 is :D

[hearty gust]

Ouu someone higher dps then me u a monk or gemling?

[livid crow]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/r4lx705n Guys I have 3 divines, what should I upgrade?

[hearty gust]

Rings?

[livid crow]

any idea what stats should I get?

[hearty gust]

Is all this the gear u have right now?

[livid crow]

Yes

Just updated it

[hearty gust]

Mhm save your div

[livid crow]

For what?

[hearty gust]

Ingenuity belt

70% plus

[livid crow]

70%?

[hearty gust]

Yeah 70% minimum is what I'd do

[livid crow]

Both those are going to 1 exalt

80% increased

[hearty gust]

Then get one lol

Whatever u can afford that's the highest %

[livid crow]

Okay

[hearty gust]

Probly be your best upgrade for the lowest cost 🤷‍♂️

[livid crow]

But what should I aim at improving next

[hearty gust]

Well I stat stack and u don't so I'm not to sure

Helmet and boots and rings

[livid crow]

Helmets then

But I was looking at helmets

2 divines were just giving me 100energy shield

[hearty gust]

Your ammy could be better

[livid crow]

Body armour?

[hearty gust]

Amulet

[hearty gust]

Also that number is what matters

[livid crow]

I meant 100 more than current helmet

[hearty gust]

Mhm

[hearty gust]

What's your tempest dps?

[livid crow]

37k

[hearty gust]

Oh wtf

[livid crow]

O.O

Good or bad wtf

[hearty gust]

Bad to.me anyways

[livid crow]

Whats yours and what's your level?

[hearty gust]

Lvl 96

[livid crow]

I'm 87

Do you have your planner as well or not?

[hearty gust]

I don't have a planner I followed a build then tweaked it with like 4 othera

[livid crow]

I'm also following one. Guess I'll just wait to reach 96 level 😂

Just one more thing. Are citadels easy to do?

And if I fail what happens

[hearty gust]

U should have way more dps then that at lvl 87 lol

U lose the citadel

And kinda idk at your dps probly not to eazy

What's your ene shield at?

[livid crow]

3793

Health is 731

[hearty gust]

Mhm

[livid crow]

Now I wanna see your build 😭 your making me insecure

[hearty gust]

😂 I'm stat stacking though

[livid crow]

What's stat stacking

[hearty gust]

Top right

[livid crow]

WHAT!

THE

F

What build are you following

[hearty gust]

Uhm 1 sec see if I have a link

Once again mine looks hardly anything like this link

[livid crow]

I have seen this 🥲 I'm stuck here with 100 int

Have to see this*

Tempo what? XD

[hearty gust]

Lmao I dmed you

[rigid ravine]

Gemling

[hearty gust]

Ahh and I'm assuming your gear is jacked

[midnight geode]

do lucky hits "stack"? Like if i have "lucky hits against stunned enemies" and "lucky hits against low life enemies", is dmg from hits against low life stunned enemies gonna roll 3 times?

[atomic halo]

no

it's a binary yes/no

if it's already yes, you can't do anything more

[midnight geode]

aight

[crimson wasp]

is there any good option to use cast on shock on flurry invoker?

[sage orbit]

why isnt my cast on shock casting eye of winter?

[past heath]

if you have 2 weapon set check if it has check mark on right weapon set. With this little information it's not easy to say what is the issue

[sage orbit]

i do not use 2 weapons

im running a evoker tempest flurry stat stacker

and cast on shock just dont cast eye of winter on bosses

[past heath]

if u see this icon under boss names then your character should shock if not then there is some other issue

I'm using Cast on Minion Death lvl21 and 3 skills inside there are lvl11

I always just in case click on the skills I have placed inside it and look if all them have check mark clicked. One time on skill didn't have it and I was thinking what might be the issue then I saw I miss that click.

You can also check if you kill an Enemy does your Cast on Shock gain Energy % to trigger these skills

[signal sky]

Can u pigswap ur ring as soon as u kill a boss b4 it drops loot for better rarity

[cerulean kraken]

Silly question, but is there anywhere online I can see a list of spells sorted by their base crit chance?
I used to use the 'PoE Skill Comparison' spreadsheet for stuff like this, but seems there is nothing yet for PoE2

[livid fulcrum]

https://pathofexile2.wiki.fextralife.com/Skills lets you select spells and sort by crit chance

[gaunt mortar]

If anybody could find a way to synergize both iron grip and iron will please let me know. I spent 3 hours on pob and poe2db trying to come up with something and as it stands it's pretty dead. I thought elemental expression may work okay but its melee. Or is there any way to scale a dot with spell damage? While also benefitting from the initial hit of a projectile attack?

600 str would give 300% spell and projectile attack damage. I also found out that circular teachings removes the bonuses from iron grip and iron will so that ideas gone.

I haven't used quarterstaff at all yet perhaps there's a skill that could utilize projectile attack damage and spell damage I'm not sure

[cerulean kraken]

Thanks, though pains me to use that wiki

[livid fulcrum]

Yeah, sadly just not many sources yet

[gaunt mortar]

Pie2db.tw @cerulean kraken is the official poe2 wiki

[static torrent]

Rather, www.poe2wiki.net is

https://poe2db.tw is more of a database, which is useful but may not have some of the details added on by the community in poe2wiki.

[livid fulcrum]

yeah poe2db is always the first check

[gloomy linden]

thanks. though as a cull aura bot, how much more should I have?

[left matrix]

I'll dm you my rarity aurabot guide.

[left matrix]

If the wiki could have the existing info from db added to it, it would be a hundred times better, but right now its a balancing act between the two, as some community info is worth having from the wiki, but the information is nowhere near as verbose as the db.

[cerulean kraken]

Oh, I'm aware. But neither the db or wiki has a table like this (yet)

[warped kayak]

hello everyone, might be there is one who have understanding how cast on shock works? i'm trying to get how it works. For example - i'm applying shock on 1 mob, COS gets meta energy. When new meta energy adds to COS - only when shock expired and re-applyied or it can be re-applyied without expiration of shock?

also there is lightgning warp with shock ground, i've mentioned that it poorly build up meta energy

i have idea about the build relied on meta energy, i know about cast on ignite loop tech but it prevents to use shock status

[tepid jay]

whats a budget stat stacker build, im done trying my own builds lol?

[signal sky]

gemling flurry but hes a bit squishy

[left matrix]

Hey bud,
Electrocute and Freeze have internal cooldowns that prevent them from being applied to the same units multiple times,
Ignite, Shock and Chill, do not. They caqn be triggered on the same enemy multiple times, and will refresh their base duration each time.

This is why we use Cast on Shock/Ignite for bosses, can Cast on Freeze for mapping,
Because the energy generation of cast on Freeze is much higher per instance than either shock or ignite, allowing it to function better against multiple enemies. However, when facing a single large target, Cast on Shock/Ignite triggers way more frequently, and thus generate consistently high energy.

Just be wary:
The ability inside of the meta gem, cannot generate meta energy for itself.
If you put ball lightning inside of cast on shock, it will not generate energy to cause an infinite loop on its own.

[left matrix]

Gemling has an ascendency to double the inherent bonus of attributes,
Combining this with Pillar of the Caged God, Astramantis, Hand of Wisdom and Action, and Falcon Technique + Falcon Dive, lets you achieve incredibly high attackrates with relatively large flat damage per hit, in a very large area.

Budget version would thus not use magic jewels with corruptions on them that grant attributes, along with an Adorned Diamond.
Nor would it use Astramantis for 100+ to all attributes.

But It might still use breach rings with multiple attributes on them and Ingenuity Utility belt, along with a good amount of attributes on its gear, and the Polymathy and Spaghettification Notable Passive Talent tree nodes.

Since all of these things are very popular and effective, none of them are really very affordable right now though.

More importantly, the point at which the build overtakes a different variant that doesnt rely on stacking attributes, is usually pretty expensive by comparison.

You could achieve relatively similar effective dps, as a budget stat stacker build, with a Horizon fullcrit build instead, still utilizing similar mechanics, but focussing on utilizing efficient modifiers rather than overwhelming attributes, at a fraction of the cost

Stat stacker,

Fullcrit Horizon

[glacial sail]

So is just straight sorcerer/ice just mid now?

[craggy ice]

anything not archmage is mid

for sorceress at least

[glacial sail]

Sad, I wanted to do ice lol
But yeah just feels slow at maps

Especially when my brother is playing an archer and it's night and day

[midnight geode]

if i get a node that makes all my dmg lucky, like "all dmg with hits against stunned enemies is lucky", does that roll every single stat thats rng? Crit included?

[fast thunder]

does thrilling chase from deadeye ascendancy still work if i have resonance allocated

[atomic halo]

no, when says "damage" it means specifically only the damage roll.

other stuff like crit, accuracy, etc. will not be affected unless otherwise specified.

[atomic halo]

in what way?

if your modifier grants you endurance charges, resonance causes you to gain frenzy charges instead, and you expend those frenzy charges, thrilling chase will still work.

[fast thunder]

but what if i already generate frenzy charges and its then getting converted to power charges

would it still work if im originally generating frenzy charges?

[atomic halo]

no. that does not make sense.

[fast thunder]

damn, figured

[midnight geode]

i see ty

[lyric tundra]

Will patch 0.2 add something similar to aspect of the cat?

[vernal lodge]

So something like this for a basic bow attack build

[vital mango]

How do people generally compare defensive options? I have a Stormweaver Sparc with MoM & EB that I have set up two ways in POB. With Everlasting Glaze (left side) with has a passive tree tailored for a balancing building ES building & damage, or the right side, which ditches Everlasting Glaze for an Amulet with +2 spell levels & enough +attrib to put on a Morior Invictus/Mahuxotl and replace all the ES building passive tree with damage. Having a hard time comparing 3700 ES/0 EV/0 Arm vs 0 ES/22% Arm/25% block but with a beastly 25k more damage.

[reef kelp]

Besides mana remnants is there another way to get mana overflow?

[hot zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-party-gif-23560775

[sinful raven]

does conductivity apply before or after invoker's crit ignore res

[warped kayak]

I know that it was fixed and attached skills cant generate. Electrocute and shock works different and electrocute doesn’t apply cos energy. Also im aware about meta energy rate (rare/uniques generates more energy than normal mob). Also i’ve tested - even lightning warp doesnt work with lightning bolt if you put it into meta skills.

So if i right understood- every shock applied generates energy even it was applied on mob. But what about node “shock can be reapplied?” does it generates more energy?

im creating build related to meta energy skills and trying to count it up. now im using cast on minion death and thinking to swap to some lightning build for testing purposes

[covert fossil]

Mathematically it would make sense that conductivity is applied first then the game checks to see if the enemy resistance is negative or not

[left matrix]

Before.
|| It acts similarly to penetration, just as exposure acts similarly to curse reduction. ||

[compact vortex]

Has something changed overnight in terms of an update, i cant see one but my damage numbers tanked by half

[atomic halo]

nothing

[compact vortex]

Im so lost then, i was doing 30k with my skill now im doing 18, and i changed nothing

Oh never mind my weapons just decided to switch around

[obsidian horizon]

https://youtu.be/6L4LSv9fssU if you guys wanna see some darkness monk bossing

if anyone is interested i can make a lvling guide

[midnight geode]

if i take this do energy recharge rate increases apply on life instead as well?

and if they do, will this work?

[shadow zephyr]

Do Stun, Freeze, and Electrocute each have their own cd timer, or do all 3 conditions proc the same timer for reoccurence?

Like could one cycle through heavy stun/freeze/electrocute for maximum downtime on the mob/boss?

[hoary bolt]

it should

[obsidian horizon]

yes

[waxen jewel]

Wait, is there a way to deal physical self Hit damage?

[atomic halo]

heartbound loop?

[waxen jewel]

Oh boy

I've found a way

To activate this bad boy

"Simply" use these things with some and every 20th minion death you self chill!

But that's prob not Hit damage sadly :(

Oh nvm, it's only every 1/3 * 1/20 hit's so every 60 hit!

There's also self bleeding

But that would require chest swap

And then there's this, which almost does what I want

Why does GGG have to be so competent and not give me easy way to self-chill???

[atomic halo]

how is it not hit damage

all damage is either damage over time or hit damage

it is certainly not damage over time so it must be hit damage

[waxen jewel]

Ahh, okay I thought the phrasing "take X damage" is fundamentally different than Hit, just like using a flask with prefix that "removes" 15% of the other resource, costs like blood magic, and then there is the keyword Sacrifice as well for some reason

[atomic halo]

oh those are losing life and dont even count as damage

but when it says you are taking damage that is a hit (unless its a dot)

[waxen jewel]

Ohh the damage/losing distinction is familiar to me and does make sense

I guess the right way of thinking is that Taking damage is just like any Hit, but it doesn't have anyone that inflicts that hit: it bypasses all the offensive calculations and goes straight to receiving damage.

Which makes me think that anything that makes me Take damage would not benefit from ailment magnitude, because it's the heartbound loop or Coat of Red that causes the damage to happen

But all this is easy to test (if/when I care) so not much point speculating

Idea would be of course to benefit as much as possible from slow/chill magnitude for Sierran's Inheritance

[zenith imp]

is a loot filter needed for poe2? im playing kripps infernalist and i cant seem to find a loot filter?

[wild rampart]

Yo, I made a build around Hateforge gloves. The idea is that I have 20 max rage and 20 rage gain on melee hit. So I get 3 random charges every attack. That's the plan. Now I tested it and sometimes I get charges but most of the time I'm stuck at 20 Rage (my max) and they don't get converted to charges, neutering the whole idea. Any idea what's going on?

[lucid hollow]

Does anyone know a good minion build?

[normal pumice]

Does attack speed lower the charge time of plasma blast?

[hoary bolt]

somewhat, but there is always a flat +2 seconds added to the charge time

[livid crow]

Can I earn exalts doing trials of sekhema like doing chaos

[inland pelican]

anyone got a good end game witchhunter build?

[craggy ice]

yes but ur looking more for big hit drops rather than guaranteed soul cores / frags

if you combine with trial carries you should be able to make a decent profit

[hollow bronze]

Just bought a new amulet, I checked it Vs my old one on my POB but the in game Vs POB wasn't the same. Is this a bug or maybe something I'm missing?

[shadow zephyr]

Did you recently swap out any jewels that might've changed your max rage value?

[shadow zephyr]

Are you possibly swapping weapons during combat and not on the correct setup to gain rage when you try to trigger?

[wild rampart]

I think it's a bug. I tried to reduce any variables like that to the minimum and the issue still persists. There's a few bug reports about the same issue on the forums,

[shadow zephyr]

Gotcha. Just going through the first things I check when something stops working 😄

<I main a totem user with Svalinn so I have all kinds of fun bugs to deal with like raise shield disappearing off my hotbar>

[wild rampart]

Same 😄 It's often just something easily overlooked but this time I'm pretty sure it's a bug.

[shadow zephyr]

...derp. can't wield a quarterstaff and cast totems. my heartbroken dreams

...well... there is a spell totem...

[normal pumice]

You could cast them on xbow swap and directly back to qstaff

[wicked tiger]

Weapon swap?

[shadow zephyr]

yeah but weapon swap would mean i'd still be reserving 100 spirit per totem with ancestral bond instead of 50.

Even if switching it over retroactively reduced the cost when I hit 3 and switched over to the quarterstaff to cast the 4th they'd cost 100 each again and I'd never get the 4th out.

[normal pumice]

Ah, true, bummer

[shadow zephyr]

I could get away with it with the chaos totem that I can never remember the name of from witch, that one isn't bound to a weapon type

but then I'd be trying to stack chaos dots instead of totems

dark effigy

it was a dumb idea anyway, totems don't trigger heralds, you are totem but totems are not you 😄

[normal pumice]

Yeah dark effigy, not sure whats more effective to raise attacks/projectiles for it though, more totems or diff chaos dots.

[normal pumice]

Not a bad idea to maximize totems that way though.

[shadow zephyr]

I mean dark effigy looks like it slots pretty nice with ranger vines but that seems like a lot of extra work when I can just instantly melt things by adding a poison cloud to them 😄

[shadow zephyr]

we'll see what the templar class looks like when it comes out, I sort of expect them to have some totems too (i'm probably wrong), but they're in the right section of the wheel to run straight for ancestral bond so i'm hoping.

although I guess I should say when the new weapons come out...

[normal pumice]

Would be an interesting concept build maybe though, max effigies and cdots to get a crazy amount of totem projectiles.

[shadow zephyr]

Well I was only thinking gemling to fuel mace totem damage (mace totem base damage scales with user str) in the absence of dual-wielded 2-handers for +14 to melee skills.

Since those totems don't work with a quarterstaff (duh moment, I know 😄 ) it'd probably be easier to just start up natively as a witch, run infernalist, and really go ham stacking spirit with that quarterstaff, right?

Go all out, get a regalia with attributes and spirit per soul core, slap 5 spirit cores in it, that way you can keep your mana boost and get better defences than Vestments. End up with like 450/500 spirit, skip the heralds, and grab the minion reservation boots. >.>

pay like 6 spirit per sniper and get 8 totems out there with them.

Mind you that regalia with those cores probably costs about the same as levelling a stat-gemling, so... 😄

maybe not? astramentis pretty stupid expensive nowadays

[royal wasp]

does anyone know a reason (more obvious to me) why pob & ingame would be off by 1 skill point? been trying to figure this out like all day, i've redone skill trees, etc. I have a feeling its going to be something like, pob doesnt count "Xyz"

[shadow zephyr]

one too many or one too few?

[wicked tiger]

Is an attribute off by 5 or something?

Or do you have some points allocated with those special jewels?

[royal wasp]

theres so many things, im redoing it now

i'll show ya, its gotta be one of these

buti think its the most recent one

Could be that

Or

weird interactions with these and ATD

[wicked tiger]

Yeah I bet it’s one of those nodes

[royal wasp]

feel like you shouldnt be able to put skill points into something that's allocated

or it shouldnt read like its not in

but i dont wanna jinx it, but i think i got it

i dont even care about the attributes being off by 12 dex and 8 int

lets take the W

thanks for lettin me bounce it off ya

[wicked tiger]

👍

[royal wasp]

uhhh its an attribute bug, they're not changing when i change from one to another

ahh interesting, it also only happens within the ATD /from nothing circles

outside, they change fine

[autumn oriole]

Hello!

Sorry, new here and IDRK where to ask.

Does shock amplifies the damage that triggers it or only the next damages?

wondering if shock magnitude helps with 1shotting mobs

[frail fable]

I need help deciding!

I am currently going mercenary and almost into act 3, I want to stabilize what type of build I'm going before I go any further because I've heard that it's really expensive to switch after act 3.

I am looking into Explosive Shot build with herald of lightning, etc.

Or I go into galvanic shards + shockburst build.
Both of these require witch Hunter.
I've heard many great things about both of these builds but I can't decide. I just want the best one for clearing endgame maps and bosses.

Thanks in advance!

[hoary bolt]

galvanic + shockburst is best imo

though you dont actually need witchhunter at all

gemling legionnaire is better at deep endgame

but witchhunter is still a completely fine choice if you dont plan on investing a ton of currency into a stat stacking charcter

[livid crow]

I just did trial of sekhema for farming and I only got jack shit

[craggy ice]

welcome to path of gambling

time to run it 10 more times to try and hit

[livid crow]

but trial of chaos is much better

guarenteed drop

[craggy ice]

its like 1 div per run w/o trialmaster

trialmaster is also gamba

[livid crow]

yeah chaos is better

[craggy ice]

okay

[livid crow]

how is it 1 div

[craggy ice]

have fun with chaos then i guess

[livid crow]

like does trial level matter?

[craggy ice]

i mean ideally you're doing all of them at level 80 lol

[craggy ice]

3x soul cores and trialmaster frag

[livid crow]

3 trial? damn

thats like easily 45mins there

XD

[craggy ice]

it takes abt 15-20 mins to clear

[livid crow]

yeah I get the idea

[craggy ice]

you can push it to 10 if you do it optimally

[livid crow]

thanks for mansplaning it

[craggy ice]

np man

[livid crow]

[livid fulcrum]

Baseline shock is a 20% damage increase. Increasing magnitude of shock by 100% changes this to 40% more damage, and so on.

[autumn oriole]

yes i know this. what I wasnt sure is if shock is applied before or after damage calculation of the lightning damage that proc'd it

[livid fulcrum]

its applied after the hit as its based on damage dealt iirc

I dont think any status applies befire damage, but I could be wrong

before*

[autumn oriole]

I couldn't find any info about this so I guess it's safe to asume it's after damage calc. I'll swap out my shock magni jewels for now

[gaunt mortar]

It'd be 40% increased not 40%more damage @livid fulcrum

@autumn oriole it would only apply the damage if the target was already shocked. If it shocks then the hit after will apply the damage not the same hit that shocks

[livid fulcrum]

yeah I was just illustrating how magnitude effected the shock debuff thats all

[gaunt mortar]

Yeah but poe uses increased and more differently 40%increased is much different than 40%more

[livid fulcrum]

shock is increased though no? its additive

oh you meant when I was showing that 100 mag goes from 20% increased to 40%

[gaunt mortar]

Yeah you had it right the first part of your sentence then at the end said more. Just a small little thing that means two different things ya know @livid fulcrum

[livid fulcrum]

eh, kinda silly nitpick there but w/e you do you

[gaunt mortar]

Okay just keep saying more when you should've said increased and get yours and other people's numbers wrong, you do you @planks

[hoary bolt]

its a damage taken modifier on the enemy, so strictly saying its an increase is a half truth

that would imply (without context at least) that its additive with player % increases, but its not

its a third layer outside of more and increases, that effectively acts as both in the sense that its applied after other calculations, but is additive with other sources of enemy damage taken

[static dove]

Can anyone tell me how well armour explosion / devastate still works on stampede or if i'm better off with flat damage, like martial temp / heft etc

[hoary bolt]

it still works pretty well when scaling aoe to a good degree

herald of ice and polcirkeln works better, but is likely to be nerfed with a nuke in the next patch

reference Cloud's video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEmFiD7vag

[wintry umbra]

Guys, ive been a moth out of PoE2, and i was wondering, isnt gemlin the best SPARK build anymore?

I saw bloodmage spark

could any. give me some info on the topic?

[wintry umbra]

just google it, is not like it is the MOST talked about stuff ithe whole game xD.

[pearl sluice]

im starting an early game witch, does minion instability work at all? none of my minions are dying by losing health so they never detonate

[frail fable]

I cant find any builds that use gemling legionnaire. Also im still fairly new to the game so how deep is deep endgame? ive heard of the term T15+ or something but I still dont know what that means

[raven gulch]

That's just tier of map

Maps go from tier 1 to 15/16

Just different area level

[dense warren]

hello, what build will be nice to play on 4.04.2025 on new league? i used to play ice strike monk, ranger and now i wonder what will be optimal build with this new spear class?

[static torrent]

We can't really know what is optimal with Spears or Huntress, we've not seen the ascendancies, all the skills, or what kinds of balance changes are happening to the rest of the game, nor what content may be added. Your best bet is to wait until the livestream and patch notes that should come out on the 27th, then people will be better able to theorycraft builds or confirm whether current ones are still viable.

[dense warren]

thanks!

[wooden saddle]

Anyone know the best spells for cast when shock, with a spark build?

[fringe lagoon]

lighting conduit

[wooden saddle]

Gotcha I figured

[faint moon]

Any tips on reviving a basically bricked noob witch build? I was running fireball/icewall which was doing ok but it lagged out my game so often and so much that I would die (and my pc is pretty decent so I found that weird). I tried respeccing to detonate minion build after a few nice players donated a bunch of gear. I bankrupted myself respeccing and now I have basically zero dps, old gear, and gold. Is it time to just start a new character? Thanks all.

[faint moon]

New character it is 😂😂

[wooden saddle]

The best build I think right now for witch is a crit blasphemy hex blast build (chaos, crit damage, blood mage)

[faint moon]

I’ll keep that in mind if I can get my gold back up to respec and maybe find some gear for that. I think I’m gonna try a monk or a ranger until the new character comes out and leave the broken witch alone for now

[static torrent]

I would guess you meant to post this in https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/185829045596848129

[raven gulch]

whats the bets conc, shattering i assume because of highest crit chance?

been playing around with lightning conc and its powerful but not super insane

[sage orbit]

why should i use electrocute on tempest flurry?

[wicked tiger]

Makes tempest bell more powerful

[craggy ice]

i dont think you should

[wicked tiger]

It’s good tech, it’s another ailment that works on bell, so you can have cold, fire, shock and electrocute on the bell

[raven gulch]

also because electrocute generates power charges for charged staff

[hoary bolt]

cant you just put electrocute on charged staff?

[wicked tiger]

You need power charges to activate charged staff

[hoary bolt]

uhh yeah?

and you can electrocute with the shockwaves and thus generate them with resonance

[wicked tiger]

Right but how are you getting your initial power charges to turn on your initial charged staff?

I assume you’re using combat frenzy

[hoary bolt]

just tap profane ritual

once

[wicked tiger]

That works too I guess

This post seems to say that electrocute on tempest has more reliable buildup va charged staff https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3675981

I guess that’s why people put it on tempest instead of charged staff

[wraith talon]

yo guys (not sure if I am asking in the right channel), is lv20 Spark with 5 sockets REALLY at ~100ex? Seems too good to be true to me.

[austere reef]

Can you slot mantra of destruction into a Cast on X skill? And if so does anyone know what happens if you proc the cast on X skill but you don’t have 10 points of combo for MoD to cast

[twilit cairn]

Which 1 of these that i didnt pick yet is best? using two handed axes and Sunder.

[static torrent]

Wrong channel, you're looking for the PoE1 channels below

[craggy ice]

no

[west dove]

is POCG herald of ice build viable on stormweaver?

i was initially planning on just using it for levelling but i've taken a liking to frozen things exploding

[craggy ice]

i dont see why not, shaper of storms node will help with proccing herald chains i guess

it wont be as strong as gemling or invoker but you can make it work

keep in mind your damage wont be from spells and you wont be scaling your spells much so stuff like arcane surge / elemental storm wont be as useful

you could also just level a gemling if you want to play that

it can be pretty fast with trial carries, leveling carries and/or leveling gear

[frail fable]

Hey everyone!

I was researching Abt the witch class and I am currently in act 2 doing a minion build. However, the more I researched, I see these builds that don't require minions and they actually look fun.

Before I hit my ascendancy, I just wanted to know if there are any really good blood mage starter to endgame builds.

If so I would love a guide such as mobalytics.

I don't mind about the budget, I'm okay with grinding late game, I just want a really fun blood mage build.

[west dove]

i see, thanks :O
would the build be more or less "stack attributes" still, with my endgame goal being an astramentis?

[craggy ice]

yeah

thats just the most optimal way to approach a tempest flurry / ice strike build currently

[rich raft]

I’m at the end of act 2 now in my chaos caster witch. I have some minions atm but they will drop out later.

Not sure about price as I like to find/craft gear so don’t trade for anything. I know Moxsy and Drybear have both published non-minion endgame witch builds.

[frail fable]

Do you have a guide for this build? Never heard of chaos caster and it seems like a super fun blood mage build

[rich raft]

Look up Moxsy on YouTube he has a levelling guide and an endgame guide. Using the max roll build planner. I don’t have the link on me rn

[dusk marlin]

Can someone please send me a very strong non stat stacking Crit ice strike invoker guide please

[last horizon]

hi @abstract dawn 😄

[abstract dawn]

Sup

[last horizon]

I was wondering how "Acrobatics" works...

if it can evade "ALL" hits, why even use evasion at all???

[dusk marlin]

@abstract dawn would you have a good link for me?

[abstract dawn]

Gemling usually go into all evasion?

[last horizon]

and it can't be evading all hits, because then I would be invulnerable

[abstract dawn]

Whatcha need?

[dusk marlin]

Can someone please send me a very strong non stat stacking Crit ice strike invoker guide please

[abstract dawn]

Leveling guide or end game?

[dusk marlin]

End game

[abstract dawn]

I’d recommend going tempest over ice strike end game but I can find you one yeah

[dusk marlin]

Please and thank you. I tried tempest. Dps loss and didn’t quite like it as much.

I have howa ingenuity and staff

Found this and was wondering too

[abstract dawn]

That’s a no go for stat stack

[dusk marlin]

I don’t want stat stack

[last horizon]

well, yeah, that's why I don't have an energy shield... but now I think I should have gone energy shield and taken that 1 node and wouldn't need a single evasion at all

[craggy ice]

normally evasion cant evade all attacks, stuff like aoe attacks cannot be dodged through evasion. acrobatics guts your evasion rating but in return makes your evasion able to dodge these attacks

its only good if you're fully speccing into evasion though, otherwise the trade-off is typically considered to be too much

[last horizon]

aaahh

yeah, with acrobatics, I'm down to neglegible evasion

[abstract dawn]

Es just beats going all evasion all day

[craggy ice]

^

[dusk marlin]

Unless queen of the forest build lol

[abstract dawn]

Most builds are hybrid anyway

[craggy ice]

even then its fundamentally worse than es

because evasion doesnt increase the number of hit points you have, just your effective health

even if you have 90% evasion you can get one shot by ritual boss and lose 3 div for fun

[abstract dawn]

Yup

[dusk marlin]

With acrobatics. And a little es from tree and jewel your golden tho

I played it

[abstract dawn]

I have 6.5k es which doubles with grim feast in maps so

[dusk marlin]

Over kill lol

[abstract dawn]

You’d be surprised with these pentacle bosses 🤣

Arbiter still one shots me with 6.5k

Due to grim being irrelevant

[dusk marlin]

Well I said for maps lol

[abstract dawn]

Oh it’s way overkill for maps, I don’t map though I farm simulacrum

[dusk marlin]

I did too and breachstone

[abstract dawn]

Yup, white bases are great for crafting and bring a ton of currency

[dusk marlin]

Trying to sell this cheap

[last horizon]

my first character was a sorceress, so I just somehow assumed a mercenary uses evasion instead of energy shield... I didn't look at builds or anything

[abstract dawn]

Gotchu, nothing wrong with full es really I’ve done all three ways (full evasion, full es and hybrid between the two) I find the hybrid better if you got the currency to get a great chest and helmet

[opaque ginkgo]

Some hits cannot be evaded or blocked, mostly have sound indicators to alert the player and use the dodge roll. With Acrobatics, those hits can be evaded as well, but you require tripled or quadrupled evasion rating to cap 95% evasion.

[last horizon]

well, I got a super chest, the Morior armor

but it sucks at energy shield

[abstract dawn]

Yeah it’s better to use that for stat stack builds

[last horizon]

but it's practically required for stat stacker

yep

[abstract dawn]

When im back at my pc I’ll show you how i get all my es

[last horizon]

helmet I have the Black Sun Crest, again for stat stacking (even a corrupted versino)

[abstract dawn]

Cause 97% of my skill tree is towards stats for damage

[wicked tiger]

How do people get 5k ES with stat stackers?

Do they just spam str with circular teachings?

[abstract dawn]

I got 6.5k atm

[wicked tiger]

What’s contributing to most of that?

[abstract dawn]

That’s without grim feast

One second let me see if I can find the jewel on my phone

[wicked tiger]

Do you mean 20% es sapphires?

[dusk marlin]

@abstract dawn any luck with a build yet? Sorry to rush

[abstract dawn]

Nah

Unique jewel

[dusk marlin]

Vorana

Heroic tragedy

[abstract dawn]

Yeah

[abstract dawn]

Gives you so much % es to every strength stat or something like that

Idk I’m trying to get my daughter asleep then I’ll help you all one second

[last horizon]

well, I can't switch to energy shield

even if I go with ES boots, that only gives me like 150 or so

plus 184 or so from the Morior armor

and that's basically it

then I can stack +20% max energy shield jewels, but that just won't do it

[abstract dawn]

That’s rough

[last horizon]

so I have to live with what little evasion I have and also just kill them before they kill me 😄

[abstract dawn]

Lolol

[last horizon]

but I don't have enough damage either, so there's that

btw: I found 2 different crit/crit dmg related nodes that are very similar for a stat stacker

[abstract dawn]

I’ll compare mine when I’m back at my pc

[last horizon]

Struck Through / True Strike (For the Jugular)

[abstract dawn]

Yea both are good

[last horizon]

they are VERY similar

but I think I prefer the one with more crit chance and less crit damage

but on paper the one with more crit damage bonus gives more dps

[abstract dawn]

On my way to the pc

[last horizon]

but the one with the crit dmg bonus gives also +10 more to dex

so...

[abstract dawn]

Link me your build again

[last horizon]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/w0fph0ec

I have very low crit chance as it is

but +10 dex is a big bonus for a stat stacker...

among other things that's +4% attack speed alone with my main weapon

[last horizon]

I don't have that many points to spend 😄

[abstract dawn]

On your build it looks like your speced into defence more than anything tbh

[wicked tiger]

https://poe2.ninja/pob/12f0 my build
@abstract dawn how much str do you have? I'm at 559

[last horizon]

that's possible

[wicked tiger]

I'm also already have vorana jewel and circular teaching

[wicked tiger]

ahh interesting, i split my attr evenly, I'm at 545/553/557

[abstract dawn]

Spec more into dex and Strength and watch your dps

[wicked tiger]

I checked POB and polymathy was giving me like 40k damage

[abstract dawn]

Dex being your attack speed

[wicked tiger]

oh wait sorry

not polymathy, I mean jack of all trades

[abstract dawn]

I have this jewel in the socket above that

[wicked tiger]

ah I have that up here

though using a +spirit one instead of +str

[abstract dawn]

You gemling or invoker?

[wicked tiger]

invoker

[abstract dawn]

same

Dps?

[wicked tiger]

258k flurry

[abstract dawn]

lvl are you atm?

[wicked tiger]

97

[abstract dawn]

Should be doing way more

[wicked tiger]

its lvl 5 flurry

[abstract dawn]

HUH

[wicked tiger]

cause mana lol

[abstract dawn]

Dawg

[wicked tiger]

my mana disappears when I use lvl 20 flurry

unless there's a fix for that?

[abstract dawn]

how quick though?

[wicked tiger]

like whole bar in 3~4 secs

1.6k mana

[wicked tiger]

lvl 5 it never goes down in mapping and it's just enough to take down t4 xesht

hmm youre using lvl 20?

[abstract dawn]

21, yes

Do you have the Melting Mae flask?

[wicked tiger]

yeah I do

ok i switched to my lvl 18 one and its 517k

[abstract dawn]

What about at least 1 (2% mana on kill) jewel

[wicked tiger]

yep got that

[abstract dawn]

tbh I just use that flask more than anything

[wicked tiger]

how many times do you use it in boss fights?

[abstract dawn]

Map boss or pentical?

[wicked tiger]

pinacle

I think last time I tried with this high lvl flurry against a desperate alliance zarokh, i couldn't kill him without using all my flasks

I'm also using bell with cast on crit, eye of winter (13)

which also kills my mana too lol

[abstract dawn]

@wicked tiger

yeah a decent bit

[wicked tiger]

oh interesting, no cast on crit?

[abstract dawn]

Nah

[last horizon]

@abstract dawn ok, so now I have 334k base damage

[abstract dawn]

Nice, we're getting somewhere

What was the chage to get to that?

[last horizon]

well, a couple of things

I think I got rid of a jewel that had "shock" on it, because with my build even though I do a LOT of lightning, I freeze instead of shocking

and I simply also put a LOT more intelligence into str and dex

let me update my passive tree on the website

[abstract dawn]

Nice

[last horizon]

updated the passive tree: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/w0fph0ec

I still am torn to go for "Struck Through", since I have spaghettification and the intelligence is simply worth more

wait, I get int TOO in the other setup 😄

so yeah

still have only 18.8% crit chance with +185% crit damage bonus

[abstract dawn]

I hate you're a gemling, good build just never played from that side of the tree so It's so hard trying to help you push damage

[last horizon]

yeah

gemling is a great campaign/early endgame build I feel, but not ultimate endgame build

unless you have Astramentis

[abstract dawn]

now that being said I do have astra lol

[last horizon]

yeah, in map I see tempest flurry with charged staff go over 1M dps

I wish I could test it against a really good boss without getting one-shot lol

[craggy ice]

i might be overstepping here but try something like this

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/i72cx0z3

with spag allocated through amu

[last horizon]

I do have that on my amulet

[craggy ice]

i think you're putting too much value on jewel slots

especially since a lot of your jewels seem to be kinda worthless

[last horizon]

what you don't see is that they have a lot of res enchanted on them

and they are not worthless

also I'm a gemling stat stacker, that's what they do

[craggy ice]

i see

[wicked tiger]

ok I have a theory, my rings probably suck cause they aren't giving me enough str

[last horizon]

I can't afford a massive time lost diamond

[craggy ice]

you can get a massive controlled metamorphosis for ~3 div on a budget

[last horizon]

no way

I searched for up to 16 div and found nothing

oh, you mean controlled metamorphosis

[craggy ice]

if you still dont want to use it bc of resists you can spec into pen or smth else

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/EegPeOZs5

yes

for atd you can just use the one you already have

well actually the optimal way to do it would be to put pen nodes on second weapon set with a bossing pillar and cast on eye of winter but that's probably too much work for now

[last horizon]

I have that

but the thing with the controlled metamorphosis is: it still takes a huge hit on elem and chaos res

and that's hard to cope with for stat stackers in general

[craggy ice]

yeahhh

i deal with it w/ all elemental resist soul cores, quad res boots, and grand spectrums but i see your point that's kind of unrealistic

[last horizon]

but I do have a corrupted pillar staff for bosses with elem pen

[craggy ice]

you don't need to spec into controlled metamorphosis tbh

the only good nodes you're getting off it are pure power and drenched (lightning quick doesnt do that much bc its inc dmg)

combined pure power and drenched are basically the same as one allocated node through mega / amulet, like spag / pure chaos / wild storm, etc.

[last horizon]

well, I made a huge improvement already

basically increased my dmg by 50-200%

[craggy ice]

that's good

[last horizon]

up to 1M in map according to tooltip, once I hit a few enemies and get going

[craggy ice]

nice

gotta get big number before 0.2.0 lol

[last horizon]

yeah

all for nothing 😛

[uncut nexus]

is minion monk a thing

the spirit node look funny for minion

[south summit]

I see that most pillar builds run lightning and ice huh

Interesting

Guess im a special boy

[atomic halo]

lightning is a given with howa

cold is needed for freezes + hoi procs

[west dove]

it's combined with Three Dragons to make your lightning damage freeze

[south summit]

Well, i didnt follow a guide or anything when i made my pillar build, so i ended up with a variant that is mono lightning

I get my charges through electrocute

[atomic halo]

usually you just get some cold on rings or smth

[south summit]

My rings give me even more lightning damage + attributes

And some resistances

For helmet i was running a standard helmet with a big amount of ES for the longest time to maximise the effect of subterfuge mask, but swapped it for a black sun wrapped helmet for those juicy +15% attributes

[west dove]

i personally run the ice build straight up

[frank ridge]

does the number in heroic tragedy timeless jewel actually matter?
or i only need to worry about the vorana/medved/olroth text itself?

i assume the number is just flavor text or something

[static torrent]

The number is the random seed that determines exactly how it affects the notable passives in the radius.

So, if all you need is the keystone from the Timeless Jewel, all you need is the name.

[frank ridge]

sorry im a bit confused, isnt that what the name already does?

[static torrent]

No, the name affects which Keystone you get.

[frank ridge]

OH keystones are entirely different from notables, theyre even bigger/fancier lol

[static torrent]

Correct.

The name affects the Keystone you get, the number determines what happens to the notables. I don't believe there's currently any way to preview that outside of getting the Timeless Jewel and trying it out, though.

[frank ridge]

what are the usual ways it affects notables? like it can range from just number changes to entirely different effects for that node?

[static torrent]

I'd need someone that has actually used the timeless jewel to confirm, but it appears to transform them into one of the following (taken from the wiki):

[frank ridge]

interesting, but i guess for a stat stack invoker im only concerned with the keystone

whatever number vorana it is then

[dusk marlin]

Does spell do anything for ice strike builds?

Like spell damage and Crit damage

[static torrent]

Ice Strike is an Attack, so unless you're using it to trigger Spells, or otherwise casting Spells in some way, Spell Damage will have no effect.

[dusk marlin]

Thank you

[analog jackal]

does anyone know if cold exposure works with tempest bell impact hits

[hoary bolt]

Why wouldnt it?

[analog jackal]

was wondering if it only applies to summoning the bell instead

[hoary bolt]

it affects the entire skill

there is no part of cold exposure that differntiates between hits whatsoever

anything that can hit can apply it

[gaunt mortar]

when can i play traps damnit

[static torrent]

When Shadow/Traps are added.

[gaunt mortar]

traps are in the game already

[static torrent]

Technically, yes, but the only drops are bugged uniques that aren't meant to be accessible. When Shadow is added, however, Traps will be added properly, and we'll get their skills and functional uniques.

[weak seal]

hello there, are there any successful pure cold sorcs out there? ive been doing my own build the entire time and need some advice

[eager sapphire]

how far along are you?

[weak seal]

hello! im level 93. i can do all waystones pretty easily, but cannot beat pinnacle bosses

pure cold. no other elements

[eager sapphire]

ok, well i cant help you then you are further then me 😂

[weak seal]

HAHA i can definitely share what i have once these servers arent trash

but yeah it's all off meta, just spending divs on divs trying new combinations lol

[eager sapphire]

i mean im crushing t15s just have to explore the map to get to where you are at

[weak seal]

its honestly a sick build, but i cant destroy pinnacles like other people

[eager sapphire]

i see

[weak seal]

yeah, i can beat them but not wiht ease

[eager sapphire]

well add me man. id like to keep in touch with fellow cold sorc

i only use cold but i do use minion stuff a lil

[weak seal]

sorcs can have minions?

[eager sapphire]

no no i spec my witch for cold

[weak seal]

ahh i gotcha. signing on now

[zinc comet]

is thgis a good build https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/jr46001x

[hoary bolt]

should be yeah, but thats not budget at all

[zinc comet]

how much is it ?

[woven depot]

Hard to say but cheapest astramentis is like 350 div alone, 80% ingenuity belt and those jewels? Yea this build is worth more than some countries gdp

[hoary bolt]

a 5 socket res/attrib morior is also 120 div

waits its a 4

still though

thats like 20

[woven depot]

No movement speed boots though helps keep things under control

[hoary bolt]

prob like half a mirror total for the build id say

[woven depot]

hard to guesstimate really, but it’s quite a lot, stat stacking builds in general are hard pressed to ever be considered budget

[hoary bolt]

a 4/4 dex/int against the darkness also 70 div

you honestly can make budget stackers

they pale in comparion to fully invested ones

but still

[woven depot]

They’ll pale in comparison to non stat stacking budgets as well

[hoary bolt]

nah budget pillar gemling honestly not bad

howa is just op

just stats from the tree and none on gear is enough to clear pinnacles

probably not t4, but enough for t2 maybe

[hearty gust]

500 div plus

[zinc comet]

dam i am not doing that

[hearty gust]

U can get a decent build for around 100 div

If u know what your buying

[zinc comet]

k

i havent even started playing poe2 dot it yeterday

still playing poe1

[hearty gust]

Ahh

Making 100 div alone will be the test lol

[zinc comet]

i also just got poe1 like 2 months ago

still linrimg

[hearty gust]

I don't even play anymore lol tbh

[zinc comet]

what poe1 or 2

[hearty gust]

Poe2

I just help with builds here and there

[zinc comet]

k

can u help me ?

[hearty gust]

With?

[zinc comet]

i want to get a build that is fun and cheap

a build

so wehn i start palying it i have a guide

to follow

[hearty gust]

I main monk so that won't help the cheap part

Early game playing / grinding just do whatever tbh

But for any decent items and build your gunna need div

[oak lava]

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[low galleon]

Hahaha budget build

[steel dagger]

@hearty gust question for you, Im playing ice strike monk (~150k dmg on ice strike at hideout, 4k es, 70% evasion, capped res). I just got my first 2 divs. I was thinking of trying to upgrade my weapon, would that be enough for a decent endgame staff? Im like lvl 87ish (I forget)

[hearty gust]

Do u stat stack?

[steel dagger]

I do not. I think my dex is like 250 and int about the same. Not 100% sure on that

[hearty gust]

I can't really help you since I stat stack and use tempest

[steel dagger]

Oh okay, no worries! Thought id ask. Ty!

[hearty gust]

All.i can really say is get better rings

[steel dagger]

Umm okay. Do you know what kind of mods should I prioritize?

[hearty gust]

Probly couple stats like dex int or str then damage on attacks

[devout valve]

I haven’t played in a few months did they change anything with minions

[jolly bloom]

Ok, i need to know for a lightning tempest flurry invoker, what should be the 4th support in charged staff? I have Primal Arm, overcharge and lighting exposure

im 75 invoker

[surreal hinge]

So when planning a build, what's the minimum it should have? In terms of damage, health/es/evasion/armour and defensive layers? I want to try make my own build but I don't really know what it needs to be viable for end game content

[atomic halo]

there is no minimum

but when someone asks a question you must know the answer

like if I ask you “what is your recovery? leech? what about out of combat?”

or “what about phys hits?”

etc.

to simply have a set minimum is impossible, everything depends on all else

[surreal hinge]

I mean surely there is like a minimum damage that a build realistically needs to do?

[azure fern]

Prob stupid q but how does wand and shield mage work at high levels if you’re mostly pumping up intelligence? High level shields tend to have high str requirements right

[fickle sonnet]

I believe they use a "focus" it's a magic shield more or less

[last horizon]

I think I'm now a "gemling stat stacker tank" lol

I got ~3600 life , ~3600 mana (with Mind over Matter) and ~3200 Energy Shield (and 68% evasion)

[last horizon]

I also should be near impossible to stun now

[last horizon]

yeah, just did T4 simulacrum and it was easy

[stark apex]

how would I share my current character? I want to get some opinions of how my ice strike invoker is looking so far

kinda been doing things semi blind

im at like t13 maps and wanna see what I can do to push further

[wooden saddle]

I think it's Maxroll.gg that lets you copy and paste your items to share online

[hoary bolt]

the real answer is pob 2

[foggy epoch]

Step 1: make a character
Step 2: ......
Step 3: profit

The perfect build

[atomic nymph]

depends on build and too much variation of other stuff to assume a general minimum, rather than focus on that learn the game mechs because its not just damage

knowledge of your skills and mechs makes your build be viable depending on what content you want to run

Because there is multiple ways for damage and defence + skill of player you cannot make "avg build X amount of hp"

[surreal hinge]

Regardless of the build it still needs to do damage though right? Regardless of how well you know the build and how well you play if you do 10dps is not realistically viable

[atomic nymph]

There is meme builds that don't focus on damage

There is multiple ways like in life to have stuff

[surreal hinge]

Okay, but they still do a certain amount of damage that allows them to clear content

[atomic nymph]

Depends on your perspective

Someone wants to do big damage and clear fast , someone wants to do big damage only to boss

[surreal hinge]

Even if a build is designed for mobs, it will still need to do a certain amount for bosses, it's just faster on maps through right?

[atomic nymph]

Depends

You cannot say my car can be both lambo and toyota at the same time

the same applies to builds

it can be faster for both or it cannot there is no "all builds are good for both" always

Focus on getting game knowledge rather than how I can run for 20 rabbits to catch none

If you don't learn how some skills work is like trying to make a house without a base don't skip the basic steps

The big dps youtubers or others that claim some stuff from just "dps tooltip" is usually bait because the game is more than that

[frank ridge]

can someone ELI5 what makes melting maelstrom good and what stats should i look for when buying in trade site?
like will any melting maelstrom solve mana issues or i need a specific value/augment somewhere

[atomic nymph]

any melting maelstrom should solve issue

it fills all your mana that's all you need

(the drawback that you take chaos damage)

[frank ridge]

gotcha, just wanna make sure im not getting tricked with these cheapest ~300exalt ones in trade site

[frank ridge]

but CI still negates that right

[atomic nymph]

yes

[frank ridge]

okay cool, thanks!

another thing where can i browse my actual base ES and the % increase modifiers to it? im only seeing the final ES value in my char screen

[atomic nymph]

Ingame I don't know any function for that Pob on some sides could give you that for % inc es from tree

[frank ridge]

ah yeah was meaning just ingame, oh well

[atomic nymph]

Pob is not perfect but has some stuff for damage and some info better than ingame

Also tooltip does not include all your damage stuff and does not know to count for some stuff at all

You can inflate tooltip damage with attack speed and crit but your damage is not just that as example

[frank ridge]

yeah i see its a powerful tool

just not something i wanna get into yet, at least now

[atomic nymph]

same applies to cast speed , that's how youtubers show you big tooltip numbers on some videos

[frank ridge]

so back to MM, only difference i see aside from corruption is the duration?
i assume it wont make a tangible difference ill just get what i can afford right

[atomic nymph]

buy what you can afford bingo

[frank ridge]

cool

[rose smelt]

is mana maelstrom worth it?

[woven depot]

Not for all builds, but very strong for CI + mana builds

[frank ridge]

how much is our base/naked resistance post game supposedly? is -56% correct?

[static torrent]

-60% elemental resistances.

Aka -10% per act completed

[frank ridge]

guess i have 4% resistance from somewhere even if i unequip gear

[frank ridge]

wait how about after getting all those side quests dont some give ele res iirc?

[static torrent]

Yes, a total of +20% to each elemental resistance, plus an optional +10% to Chaos if you select one of the draughts.

[frank ridge]

so it becomes -40% instead?

[static torrent]

Yes, if you have all the permanent bonuses, you're at a base of -40%.

[frank ridge]

definitely missing some then, might as well grab all of those before fixing up the few res %

thanks!

[silent charm]

what is more important for PlagueFingers ? Big hits or lots of little hits ?

[atomic nymph]

Depends on what skill and what build you want

[cloud axle]

From what I read poison dmg comes from phy and chaos but with these gloves all hits contribute so you want other items to increase chance to poison on hit and u want more dps vs less / speed.

[west dove]

poison builds are always a toss up between whether you want more poison stacks but hit for less per stack (snakebite), or less poison stacks but each stack hits harder (plaguefingers)

with snakebite you'd only get benefits out of phys and chaos, but with plaguefingers you now also scale off elemental damage, so its ceiling is higher

[craggy ice]

big hits

poison damage scales off your phys and chaos damage

so bigger hits will result in bigger poisons

[dusty horizon]

Question about bleed: if i have 100% chance to bleed, does that mean it will proc bleed on every hit?

[silent glade]

yes, unless the enemy has a chance to avoid bleeding from a monster/area mod

[warped kayak]

hey guy, i've already asked before about cast on shock but still not have got any answer. How it procs? I mean im shocking an enemy once, shock applyed. When next time cast on shock will get energy? only after shock status expired or even if shock not expired?

[tall forum]

hi guys just asked in new palyer campaign help but got no answer, does herald of ash proc of totem kills or do i have to get the killing blow?

[warped kayak]

i'd rather suggest you to not use herald of ash because it hits with zero damage and pretty bad designed in game

it doesnt count as ignite status also

[tall forum]

ok ty, looking for something to use as spirit gem while leveling as totem damage dealer

[warped kayak]

im not sure about how heralds works with totem, id say to test it by using herald of tunder for example with totem

[tall forum]

ok cheers

[warped kayak]

unfortunately there is no any variants - now everyone uses 2 heralds builds (herald of ice with lightning gems and herald of tunder with ice gems)

[tall forum]

but im doing physical damage so them heralds are worthless to me

[warped kayak]

you can add some lightning flat/cold flat damage

it will help you to proc heralds

[tall forum]

ok cheers

[atomic nymph]

you sure about that

both of them 100% convert of phys

so they work with phys

[atomic nymph]

gain energy per shock+ monster power you charge it to 100% = it will do the skill/skills on it

[tall forum]

so i can use herald of lighting with no lighting flat damge and i good to go?

[atomic nymph]

bingo

[tall forum]

ty

but will it proc of my totem kills or does it have to be my kills?

[atomic nymph]

no idea how it interacts with totems

[tall forum]

ok im leveling first time so i dont want to waste my gem

[atomic nymph]

you get too much gems to worry about one

I can give you one if you want too XD

[tall forum]

no im ok ty ill check it out when i get more dex ty

[upbeat gorge]

i need help with building a warrior class

but idk what im doing

im on the final boss of act two

and havent done my ascendancy thing yet

[coarse acorn]

Warrior can be anything. You could have minions, gas arrow, spark, tempest flurry

[upbeat gorge]

damn

[austere reef]

trying to decide which amulet to use, mainly because im not sure how important this amount of rarity find difference can be, DPS and defences are pretty similar

[wicked tiger]

what type of content do you mostly do? mapping? trials?

[small anvil]

If all things are relatively equal, seems like the better option is pick higher rarity in your case.

[tribal gulch]

Hi, i want to try a Autobomber build with my stormweaver. Can someone help me with a build?

[warped kayak]

Im not asking how meta skill work

Pls read my question again - can shock status been applied even it’s already on enemy? when new meta energy will gain - after expiration of shock or not

[surreal hinge]

I'm having a lot of fun with my build as it were, I really like the playstyle of it and it seems to be doing well this far but I'm only part way through act 2. At what point does it become evident that a build is not going be viable? I have a pob build plan, I should get ehp to over 8k, dps of 23k+, but I'm worried that this build I'm really enjoying is just going to fall off and die

[warped kayak]

For now only 3-4 builds are in meta. Sparks, attribute stacker, lightning deadeye, inferalist. Other is medicore, what build do you play?

[surreal hinge]

I'm not trying to be meta thankfully as my build will never 😅 it's a necromonk build, I use chaos spells, zombies and the skeletal constructs. I know how ineffective it'll be eventually, but I'm really enjoying the playstyle and atm it shreds

[warped kayak]

Happy that you enjoying because it’s only matter. so you are playing infernalist minion playstyle but with sort of chaos damage. It’s pretty viable, but arbiter and t4 pinnacle bosses will be hard for you.

but i have solution for you ice wall with trampletoe. Still it’s not fixed so you can take it for bossing

[surreal hinge]

Kinda I'm not actually using skeletons, the majority of damage is from chaos, but zombies apply bleed and the unearth and its constructs apply poison

I'm playing a monk going chayula

[warped kayak]

poison is pretty bad in game, because it’s not chaos damage actualy. It’s chaos but dot is not getting bonuses from chaos nodes

[warped kayak]

Yeah, i got you clearly.

[surreal hinge]

I'm using it to apply the armour strip to help zombies mostly

[warped kayak]

oh, i’ve played before on pathfinder with armor blow, there is good node to blow when enemy has broken armor status and then you can use it to increase your damage with taking this status off

i mean support gem

im not sure can you use it on spells also

[surreal hinge]

Ohh I'll have to look at that!

[warped kayak]

this 2 gems

so i've used corrosion on posion cloud, which immediatly broke armor and expoit weakness on another damage skill, if enemy still in the cloud you will reapply breaking armor again quite fast again and again take off

so you are blowing enemys all the time

[warped kayak]

alright guys, i've tested cast on shock by own, and i can say now - cast on shock gets energy only after shock expired

so question is how to delete shock status. Also lightning warp doesn't work with cast on shock at all

shocking grounds doesn't add any energy

that's pretty sad

so question now - how make shock status more stable and how to delete it?

[wicked tiger]

You kill the target

Or you can use something like lightning conduit

[gilded path]

Does anybody can help me with builds for duo content which will work together?

[rose smelt]

is the copper citadel just a boss fight or is it like a regular map?

[hearty gust]

Both

[pearl sluice]

Dm me

[proud plume]

question, for quarterstaffs is there any real diffrence between them? ik some get bonus range and or other perks but aside from that most appear to look the same?
a follow up question, for a ice double herald monk build is there like a go to of these quarterstaffs?

[coarse acorn]

You’re asking which quarter staff is best base

[proud plume]

is that whats diffrent between them aside from the perks?

[coarse acorn]

Well that’s true for every item in game. Yes. Most people would argue expert slicing is best base

[proud plume]

i didnt even notice that lmao, thank you! ill take a look into it

are there any of the base quarterstaffs you would say are also good? or perhaps some to outright avoid?

[coarse acorn]

Check out craft of exile 2 for prefix and suffixes.

If you’re going ice strike you get 60% of physical-so I would look for #%increased physical damage, adds # physical damage, and %increased elemental damage for prefixes. Suffixes: attack speed, crit chance, crit bonus

[coarse acorn]

I would identify any you find, see what modifiers are prefixes or suffixes, specifically for the item level of the staff you have and whether it’s worth trying to add exalts to it or keep on moving.

So if you find a good base with 2 undesirable prefixes then don’t waste time on it

[atomic halo]

just look at a wiki

poe2wiki.net or poe2db.ta

observe their stats

[proud plume]

i did, i just didnt notice they had different base dmgs

[atomic halo]

base phys/lightning, base atkspd, and implicit

generally all the top few will have possibilities of being competitive

ultimately the explicits decide the viability

[warped kayak]

And where’s here the logic? How you can gain energy from dead target? Lightning conduit in meta, yes i can use manually but it pointless due to cast time. Also I didn’t found any good spells to apply shock.

[wicked tiger]

Well the shock expires when they die, so you get energy

[sage tulip]

I lost most of one of the builds I planned on a website from it being archived and now I don't have access, anyone on that I could bounce ideas off of to get this replanned ?

[pearl sluice]

in search of interest build

[idle goblet]

Are the ranger ice skills somehow viable ?

[dusty horizon]

i am having some fundamental misunderstandings regarding ailments, specifically bleed/poison... for example: bleed/poison chance adds up together, but ailment chance does not seem increase or add to their chances despite the fact that POE2 POB shows these mods as "ailment modifiers" under the specific bleed/poison chance blocks. Further, putting on the item atsak's sight (crit hits poison) with 100% crit strike chance (snipe) does not show a 100% chance to poison, as it should. Does anyone know whats going on?

[static torrent]

The current info on Spear skills is rather old, and likely doesn't reflect what we'll see in the announcement or once we get to play with the weapon - I'm pretty sure that every skill shown in that teaser hadn't been seen before, so that's already 3 we know nothing about.
We also don't have full info on the ascendancies, so any Huntress builds - which don't necessarily have to use the Spear, so they're a whole other thing - can't really be developed either.

Anyway, there'd be no point theorycrafting with that info anyway, since we're getting the patch notes in 3 days.

[daring jay]

i know yeah

[daring jay]

well you would have a idea what to do and you can just see how the skills have changed

every skill in the showcase has some kinda of text in poe2db even if its old

[azure fern]

Quick q what’s good for a single target damage caster build? Ice shards or whatever it’s called?

[warped kayak]

You gain energy when shock applied, not when it expires

second time when you get new energy - when you re apply shock on non shocked target

[warped kayak]

Any comet builds, any spark builds, any frostwall+trampletoe builds

frost wall+ trampletoe litteraly oneshots any pinnacle bosses and makes game boring

hope ggg fix that soon, but this tech exists since ea launch and there is no any fixes. I suppose standard league will have that bug even after 0.2.0 launch

[static torrent]

No, proper content updates like 0.2 is specifically for major balance changes, that's exactly the time to expect any kind of nerfing overtuned interactions.

[warped kayak]

I assume they will add all content into new league but standard will stay without big changes

and without major nerfs/fixes

[static torrent]

That's not how that works. Changes to the core game affect Standard and league, only temporary league mechanics are exclusive to the league.

Old uniques will indeed remain the same, but if they change the base interaction, it will affect everyone.

[warped kayak]

oh, that’s glad to hear, hope they shake up the meta attr stackers, sparks and autobombers

[static torrent]

Either way, most people in PoE1 play in the new leagues exclusively, so I wouldn't be surprised if that carries over into PoE2 as well. In that event, it won't really matter what old items lie around in Standard, since there won't be any way to get them in the same state in the new league.

[warped kayak]

yeah, let’s see what they show us. i’m done with build crafting since i’ve made 0 mana tech from palstreon, i’ve tested all existed techs already and game broken asf

[sour python]

alright folks, whats up with herald of plague and contagious contamination? do they stack er wha?

[warped kayak]

Nope

Plague not stacking with poison

[sour python]

no i mean how they both spread the most damaging poison. it wouldnt increase dmg or range. so I guess the point of the acension is to free up spirit.

I hope they kinda buff this

[warped kayak]

you just spread plague instead of poison

you should understand that plague is not poison but chaos damage and it doesnt stack with poison nodes

so herald of plague is quite gimmick

it’s like herald of ash which not contributes with ignite

[sour python]

herald of plague is spreading my poison tho?

and poison IS chaos dmg

im confused lol

[gaunt mortar]

It definitely spreads poison lmao

[azure fern]

Spark is good vs single? I always thought of it as clear

Comet builds sound interesting. Are those otherwise built around cold skills?

Thank you.

[azure fern]

Just looking for a caster build that’s a bit more precise, doesn’t feel like I’m just filling the screen

[pearl sluice]

when new hero will be

[static torrent]

Huntress will be available on April 4th #poe2-news message

[azure fern]

Where Templar where sword 😡

[strong trellis]

Where my rf jugg so I can go brain off 💀

[static torrent]

In the future. Templar would be added alongside Flails, Duelist alongside Swords, incidentally.

[austere reef]

Lightning conduit can hit pretty hard with the right set up, have to run storm weaver with the Strike Twice asc. node to apply two shocks to enemies

[last horizon]

lol, I was looking to maybe update my "ingenuity utility belt", when I realized I had 78%, and it rolls only 40-80%, and 80% or corrupted higher % are astronomical prices

[random torrent]

anybody can help with lightning arrow deadeye kinda struggling with the damaage (изменено)

[sour python]

Anyone ever try gas cloud plus armour explosion?

[spare talon]

Any deadeye rangers here that could help my friend out?

He lacks dps

[gaunt mortar]

@sour python armour explosion scaling is just cheeks it really sucks

You'd use 2 support gems just for the poison to trigger armohr explosion

That do nothing for the damage itself

[sour python]

chaining explosions go brr. and i use forking poison burst arrows to consume the broken armor so they keep exploding

@gaunt mortar

I have herald of ash on but it doesnt seem to do much other than igniting the clouds

[gaunt mortar]

Your poison is doing all the damage it looks fun tho

[sour python]

is there anyway to scale armour explosion at all?

area damage right

[gaunt mortar]

When I tried the same I thought armour explosion was igniting the clouds til I realized I had HoA on lol

I think it's just fire damage