2┃build-planning

[dawn spire]

dark effigy seems pretty solid

[inland nebula]

PoB2 > export to maxroll
but you have to manually do it in PoB2 yes but u can copy paste items from in game
but cant copy paste skill tree

[carmine flicker]

34-64 damage doesn't look all that great tbh

[dawn spire]

that's per projectile

[abstract mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLVILflIq08

[indigo flume]

is there no +1 lightning on tree?

[dawn spire]

no, but they get 15% more maximum damage

[indigo flume]

where?

name of talent pls

[dawn spire]

wild storm

east of monk

[abstract mortar]

@viral crag

[pearl moss]

Are sockets on a Widowhail important for a poison conc pathfinder build?

[abstract mortar]

need a lot of timing lol

[real zinc]

Got this build for now. Its Cast on Freeze with Frostwall, Cast on Shock with Comet and Herald of Thunder with Cold Support gems and Herald of Ice with Lightning Support gems.
The Frostwalls you spawn get instantly destroyed. Whole build fucntions without Polcirkeln.

[karmic lion]

anyone know the build with the highest life? not effective hp, actually the highest red life

[atomic halo]

gemling str stacker

it just has to be, there's no way anything else can compete

[cinder parrot]

you can copy paste items into pob

ctrl c in game

[carmine flicker]

is bone cage usable at all? someone tried that?

[cinder parrot]

i don’t like max roll because it ignores config settings

pob2 gets really iffy with high scaling too

[carmine flicker]

idk where to get damage on that tho

[cinder parrot]

it’s still got legacy problems from pob1

afaik this cap doesn’t actually exist in poe2

i’ve spent more time in pob than i have in game lately

in fact i haven’t really played at all since it dropped

a lot of things just do not correctly work particularly skill gems

but the tree and gesr seems alright

[olive compass]

Trying to make a slam build. Is it possible to have more than one after shock of the sam hit? Like 1 due to warcary and another 1 due to aftershock chance.

[carmine flicker]

there is a support that create 3 aftershocks

so more than possible

[low bramble]

how do I make time-lost jewels apply to the nodes around it and not just give me their stats once?

[robust radish]

man im so confused with shock magnitude

base shock is 20%

75% increased shock magnitude is... 42%

90% increased shock magnitude is 45%?

this doesnt math consistently

20 * 1.75 should be 35, but its 42.
20 * 1.9 should be 38, but its 45

[merry bone]

do you have "effect of non-damaging ailments" anywhere?

[robust radish]

no, because before taking these 4 nodes, my shock is 20% which is the base value

but taking these nodes i go to 42 shock

which should be 110% increased shock magnitude

the additional 15% shock magnitude from my gem is consistent with 225% increased shock magnitude, so that +15% works as expected

these nodes are giving 110% instead of 75% as far as i can tell?

"frazzled" on the tree

[timid holly]

anyone know if tempest belt has any ailment threshold?
or any ele dmg will trigger ailment on the belt ?

[light hill]

im a spark sorc

i assume 15 mana is the way to go?

[merry bone]

doestn matter you can change that one anytime you want

[light hill]

i sseee

thanks

[haughty dove]

Hell I am gemling merk I am trying use a bow not crossbow but the quiver is saying You can use this item. its stats will be ingored. why is that

[rancid cipher]

I'm having a hard time calculating out damage value, I'm not great at this sort of thing. lol

in the grand scheme of things how valuable is 90% increased damage vs 45% increased shock magnitude? I can shock twice and both are up fairly often.

The shock damage is multiplicative right where the increase is additive? So I think I'm looking at like 9% (18% if you count both shocks) more shock damage vs the 90% increased damage.

[merry bone]

have to have a bow equipped first

[hot rapids]

does % increased spell damage and % increased crit chance apply to triggered spells as well?

[dusty rock]

Can you get sphaghettification allocation on a jewel socket?

I dont want to waste so many points for that skill point

[cinder parrot]

So even if you only see “+75% Shock Magnitude” listed, the node cluster might also have (for example) “+35% Effect of Non‐Damaging Ailments.” Those two lines add up to a total of +110% (i.e. 1 + 0.75 + 0.35 = 2.10). Multiply your 20% base by 2.1 and you get 42%. The same logic applies for 90% Shock plus 35% from ailments, giving 20% × 2.25 = 45%.

Before taking those nodes you just had the plain 20% Shock with no extra “Effect of Non‐Damaging Ailments,” so it stayed at 20%. Once you allocate the cluster, both bonuses come into play and you end up at 42% or 45% instead of the “pure” 35% or 38%.

are you trying to wrap your head around that

It made no sense so don’t bother

I’ve no idea

[robust radish]

wouldnt 35% Effect of Non‐Damaging Ailments be always active so my 20% shock would be 20*1.35=27?

i also dont see that in the tree or my gear tbh

[cinder parrot]

It could be in a separate bucket like “Imcrwased effect of ailments against enemies”

So against no enemies it wouldn’t apply

[robust radish]

im just manually searching nodes on the tree, i dont even think these show on char stats ingame or in pob

[cinder parrot]

can u link me ur pob? i wanna check out what’s happening too

curious

[robust radish]

ok actually i did find this

this + nearby node is 35%

[cinder parrot]

yes

[robust radish]

but why ingame it was 20%

hmm

[cinder parrot]

it says shock you inflict

so if you don’t inflict a shock

it won’t apply

ggg is weird with their wording

There’s never any extra words for no reason

If it says an extra word it’s there for a reason

[cinder parrot]

if you go to pob

and you untick “is enemy shocked”

it’ll likely go down to base

if you retick it

it should apply to the base

[robust radish]

well yes

but i have to manually calculate my shock magnitude and change a .lua file because pob has 2 bugs

1. it doesnt go over 20% shock

[cinder parrot]

what’s the bugs

[robust radish]

2. it doesnt calculate shock magnitude automatically, you have to set effect of shock in this box

[cinder parrot]

it does

[robust radish]

this is how im configuring my shock

[cinder parrot]

you can remove that

[robust radish]

i tested ingame the magnitude (45%)

[cinder parrot]

it’ll do it automatically

[old ermine]

Anyone have experience with a Spark Stormweaver build that could give me some tips to increase my damage here?

Here is my build: https://poe2.ninja/pob/15a

[robust radish]

uncheck both boxes?

[cinder parrot]

that’s an override

no jsut the effect

leave it empty

[robust radish]

with effect in

if i take off i go down to 108k

[cinder parrot]

if there’s a bug in pob you can always use the custom modifiers section

[robust radish]

im on 0.30 release

[cinder parrot]

just apply the node there

[karmic geyser]

whats a good passive to instill on my amulet for ice strike invoker

[robust radish]

yeah

it does nothing

im telling you pob is bugged it doesnt auto calculate shock at all, or shock magnitude

untiucked enemy is shocked does nothing

i have to manually set it 20%

or 45%

[cinder parrot]

try just using elemental ailments

then decreasing the same thing for everything other than shock

[robust radish]

what mod exactly

115% increased Magnitude of ailments you inflict only affects poison and ignite not shock

when it does effect em ingame

like i looked it up its a bug

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/issues/426

idk why u dont believe me

[dawn kettle]

If I move primal armament from ice strike to charged staff will I still get that buff when I’m using charged staff same as it is in ice strike .. I want to add the mana support gem into ice strike but don’t want to lose any damage

[cinder parrot]

random

[merry bone]

No primal armament doesnt give you a buff - it adds dmg to the skill its socketed into. So charged staff will do more dmg.

[cinder parrot]

You could just try +35% to Effect of Non-Damaging Ailments

then -35% to Effect of Ignite

etc

[cinder parrot]

see if this works

[worldly flume]

I’m making my spark sorc build and I was wondering if it was viable to use a dps amulet instead of everlasting. I have roughly 4K mana with both and the same mana regen but the amulet gives me like 15k more dps. With high mana regen I find that if I ever die I’m dying regardless (completely covered in enemies or a Death Star beam from some random enemy incinerates me, so I was wondering if everlasting is really worth it? CI + Archmage btw

[inland nebula]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/59hdg0ye
Anything I should change, improve, or add before attempting a Simulacrum for the first time?
I really don't want to spend a lil over a div just to die/fail lol

[dawn kettle]

Would it be the same increase in damage when I have charged staff active as it is on ice strike normally or is it more or less … like it sounds like it’s a benefit to have it on charged staff instead of ice strike normally… I know the DPS will show less for ice strike without it but once I activate charged it’s a lot more damage then normal ??

[cinder parrot]

If you add a jewel in for increased shock effect, does that work?

like craft one in pob

[robust radish]

no

its fine i have a workaround by manually setting this

i wait for them to bugfix

[merry bone]

its a % multiplier - its just math - it always adds that percent

[dawn kettle]

I do fine with mana in almost all content aside from when I fight string bosses I run into mana … so would the mana gem for temp bell be better or the 40% mana one for ice strike ?

[pseudo patrol]

quick question thinink about re anoint my almulet to coming calamity from doomsayer just wondering what one is stronger coming calamity is pricy af to make but i will if it s worth it

[robust radish]

they do different things

one is only herald dmg

one is dmg to everything

do you want clear speed or boss dmg

[pseudo patrol]

with the everything dmg wouldnt it effect the heralds to by 20% more

[robust radish]

no

read coming calamity

this increases all ur ele dmg

[cinder parrot]

{range:0}(35-50)% increased effect of Shock, what if you try this?

[cinder parrot]

this is how unique items are done in pob

[robust radish]

this only increases the herald PROC dmg

doomsayer does 0 boss dps

[robust radish]

on a jewel?

[cinder parrot]

basically the range is multiplied by the difference between min and max, to get the roll. so 0,5 range would be 35 + 0.5 * 15 (diff between max) = 35 + 7.5 = 42.5 rounded to 43% with {range:0,5}

so with a range fraction of 0

youd just roll the min

but this is how its done for uniques in poe2

[robust radish]

i understand how the craft works

im saying you want me to craft a jewel and slot this in right

[pseudo patrol]

ok so going back to your speed clear or boss coming calamity =boss and doomsayer=speed clear due to proc

[cinder parrot]

yes

[robust radish]

yes

[pseudo patrol]

bc i want more speed

[cinder parrot]

because on the uniques it is finding valid data

[pseudo patrol]

ok cool ty ty

[cinder parrot]

there are some things its not

like duration

[pseudo patrol]

that saves abouit 100 ex lol

[robust radish]

seems a non supported affix

[robust radish]

coming calamity also increases ur dmg while clearing a bit

[cinder parrot]

New Item
Sapphire
Crafted: true
Prefix: {range:0.5}JewelShockEffect
Prefix: None
Suffix: None
Suffix: None
LevelReq: 0
Implicits: 0
15% increased Magnitude of Shock you inflict

but for 1,0

and 30%

35%

or just range:1

[inland nebula]

Any advice frogs in the chatting room present at this current time?

[robust radish]

yes

its not supported

0 change

like i said shock is just bugged in pob lol

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/mkhdy0y7 if u wanna play with my pob

keep in mind i did a custom lua edit to make shock magnitude go above 20%

because its HARD locked to 20 atm, despite the value you input being 80% or whatever

and going above 20 does nothing

[sharp arrow]

Does anyone know where I can find the raging spirits gem? I have searched by all gems and it doesnt seem to be anywhere.

[night fossil]

Anyone got suggestions on my build? The dps estimates seem totally off. My dps seems great, my main issue atm is I would like a little more survivability. I cruise through 9/10 maps and then every once in a while get stunlocked and killed in like 3 random bad hits. - https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/grhe60yy

[pseudo patrol]

i see deadeye rangers using cast on shock with eye of inter or lightning orb witch on is stronger really

[fickle thistle]

How much Accuracy and Penetration do we need?

[old ermine]

It's a spirit gem under the elemental category

[crude egret]

Hello, i have a question regarding Ranger build, I noticed that in many ranger demo char is not slowdown on shoot but I always slowdown on shot, how I can change it?

[little shale]

Ascendancy node, support gem, high attack speed without holding the skill buttton but tapping. Those the ways i know of

[timid cedar]

does anyone know if skill gem lvl+quality matter for the gems socketed inside a meta gem?

cos pob2 doesnt change dps numbers idk

[old oriole]

why do i have extra 20% chaos res?

[modest moon]

on some builds i've seen, once they socket that lvl 16 spark gem (total lvl 20), the dps is about 30k, that's without any support. others are even way higher because of skill lvl.

what are the factors here? what's the biggest contributor/impact? how can i find out?

these are from the spark tooltip, showing everything that could change the effect and eventually change the output..

-projectile
-lightning
-duration
-critical hit chance
-spell damage

of course, the passive tree will affect the dps, but they all pour into those stats ^

[spice abyss]

I plan on using this staff for a while, isit worth increasing quality? if so, how do i do that?

[modest moon]

not worth increasing the quality, because it doesn't have enough mana or to scale big

[tidal copper]

10 can be the vial on act3?

[spice abyss]

okay thanks

[old oriole]

why does this say 50% when i cleary typed 77 in the value?

[tidal copper]

Max shock reached?

[modest moon]

from the different streamers i've seen, they say this is still work in progress, alot of bugs and miscalculations are there

[modest moon]

wouldn't it cap out at 100%?

[tidal copper]

Not on PoE 1

Bug!

Maybe you can enter in the custom configuration

Like "max shock is 100%"

[old oriole]

max is 100

[old oriole]

that's what i did, second img is configuration

but i can't type in the max value, only th effect of shock

[tidal copper]

You can write custom text in the configuration there is a box for it
With the right text you could mend it

[old oriole]

how? where?

[foggy bloom]

should I care about fireball dps if it's getting converted with blueflame bracers?
I got cold% damage nodeds but the only thing that doesn't seem to work is my wand has +skill to cold spells, which makes sense because fireball still has fire tag

or what can I do to increase fireball damage if it's getting converted to cold? get fire spell damage or cold spell damage mods?

[tough valley]

I'm confused, i'm level 95, and i think i've put all my points into PoB and i cant find any i'm missing, yet it says 116/123, if i'm level 95, shouldnt it be 118/123?

[tidal copper]

In configuration a big black box

[pastel valley]

help! my Tempest Flurry is fluctuating +/- 2000 dps can't think of a reason why

[old oriole]

still same value(dps i mean)

[tidal copper]

If you write it and it appears as red that means it isn't being registered
You'll need to find the correct wording

[pastel valley]

nevermind. it's the rage gem

[old oriole]

sry but how can i know that?

[tidal copper]

After you type it no change and the mod is red
If it's being registered It'll be blue
Something like 20% more damage is easy to get right for example

[supple flower]

Is there difference which skill I put to Cast on Freeze/shock? I mean.. I didint see info in tooltip but when I was testing double cast on I saw that when I put comet in Cast on.. energy is much slower gathered than for example ball lightning.

[cinder parrot]

are you missing two from campaign boss

[tough valley]

nope, im at 24 weapon set, i think it was a pob bug, im just redoing tree now cuz i could not find the missing 2 points whatsover

[mystic osprey]

is there a point in getting lightning penetration if I already have exposure and use conductivity curse?

[floral helm]

I am convinced after a full day of testing and doing everything under the sun that I can think to do. That cast on abilities literally don't work on console.

Or I've somehow bricked my character from being able to use them which I doubt.

They gain energy like they're supposed to, And then they just don't cast the spell. And I've tried it with multiple spells. I don't know what they've done to this system

[drifting shell]

Hi guys and girls. I have a question: If i have a minion build with mage arsonist, does added firedamage, colddamage, physical damage added affect their attack? Or would it only be fire added as thats their damage output?

[steady breach]

in general for mods to affect minions they have to say "added x to minions"

[old oriole]

im pretty sure you bricker your character, cuz if that was not the case, it would be a very know issue, and GGG would've fixed it

[floral helm]

Which makes even less sense to me. And I've tried looking online to see if other people are having this issue. But no all of their issues were like they forgot to turn it on or they didn't have quite enough spirit or something like that.

And for me it's none of those simple things. And I used to use cast on shock with the god quarter staff build.

But now it's literally doing nothing.

[drifting shell]

All right, so ALL added damage is completely useless on a Minion build i suppose?

[steady breach]

yeah, its added to stuff you do, not your minions

[old oriole]

so it worked before and now it's not?

[floral helm]

Yes it worked like two builds ago. Because I've been playing a lot of different things on my gemling

[haughty dove]

I have to be honest I dont even know how to get the cast on get the trigger to work. I have never figured it ou

[drifting shell]

Thanks for the reply, i suppose its the same with mana and lifesteal % on physical attack also? Its also ONLY me? Even some minions do physical

[floral helm]

I even took the time and looked back at screenshots of my spec from back then to see if I had something that I didn't have this time around. And that's not it either. Like I'm I'm literally stumped and I can normally troubleshoot pretty easily

[drifting shell]

What about 43 life gained on kill, is that when my minion kills something, or does it also have to be MY own spell doing the kill hit?

For me to get the 43 life that is, or will both my minion and myself get it?

[floral helm]

So normally, it generally requires two specific support gems. And then whatever ability you want to cast through the trigger. And of course turning cast on, on using spirit.

And then every time you do the thing for instance cast on shock, you gain energy and then when you hit a hundred energy it spends that energy to cast whatever spell you have slotted in it.

But for me, it gains energy and then just doesn't cast the spell. I've even gotten rid of all of the gems regarding it. Cut new gems, and it still didn't work.

Like when I say I've done everything I can think of I mean it.

[old oriole]

so it does work on console, just there's something wrong with your build now

[haughty dove]

oh ok

[steady breach]

you have to do the killing

[kind wing]

Can attribute stacking be done on a budget?

[floral helm]

Absolutely

[sly summit]

I think so. I did it on a 5 div budget but I think you can do it with 2-3

[kind wing]

Any guides on that?

[floral helm]

Yeah and I wish I could figure it out. And I've tried other cast on abilities as well like cast on crit. Same thing It just doesn't use the spell when it hits max energy. It's like it's snuffs itself out and restarts gaining energy.

[sly summit]

for monk at least you can find the passive tree just from googling. For gear, I think just pillar and Howa are must haves

[kind wing]

Thanks, I want to do that spinning lightning build with tempest flurry I see everywhere

[sly summit]

From experience, mana is a big issue for tempest flurry. I did ice strike which felt easier/cheaper to get online

[dusty sage]

im level 82 and i think i have damage issue

[dark pulsar]

they work you just need a proper setup

I played cast on shock, minion death and dodge on PS5

all work fine

theres energy gain on the tree and on jewels

[floral helm]

Obviously.
I appreciate the input but I know what a proper setup looks like.

[opal bobcat]

Does the psychic fragmentation passive affect Comet? Not sure if it counts as a projectile that can be mutlipled or something

[dark pulsar]

nah comet doesn't count as projectile

[opal bobcat]

hmm how do you spam comets then? I mainly use it for bosses with spell echo but I remember seeing it was possible to somehow spam it

Maybe chaotic freeze + cast on freeze

[dark pulsar]

there's many ways to spam it with meta gems

you just can't spam comet by self casting

[modest moon]

check your passive tree

check if you have Conduit on

[opal bobcat]

True I assume it's just generally cast on X gems or invocations, but I never used any of those so I'm not sure if it's possible to apply spell echo support gem there as well

[native widget]

Yeah comet and conduit is really shit with self cast

Since theres 1 whole second of non reduced cast time

[dark pulsar]

you can put spell echo in meta gems

you can also put spell cascade

[native widget]

I mean, its not supposed to work

But it does

The support does say "that you cast yourself"

[opal bobcat]

Ehhh I tried cascade and it seems that the duplicates on the sides don't hit the boss, but I'll probably keep using it like that till I get something better to put lol. Will try to fit it with spell echo in a meta gem tho, thanks

[muted dagger]

Is this decent?

[dark pulsar]

nah

probably less than 1ex on the market

[muted dagger]

Rip

[glacial bone]

Is it normal for PoB to not show the exact same dps shown in game for a skill? I copied everything and it's showing 72k whereas in game it's 77k

[dark pulsar]

PoB has bugs atm

it's not 100% right

I think there were issues with archmage and ingenuity

[rancid cipher]

I'm currently running a melee build that uses CI and I'm trying to decide between using a pure evasion chest piece with like 2k evasion vs using one with 1100 evasion and 400 energy shield.

I'm taking Bestial Skin and Spectral Ward, so the evasion one ends up offering more free stats, but it's still less energy shield overall. I tried to calculate it a bit and I think they end up each giving around this much with those two talents taken into consideration, assuming I did it right.

1965 Evasion
327 Energy Shield

1078 Evasion
603 Energy Shield

My goal would be to get enough evasion / faster energy shield startup to make my energy shield regenerate a bit more consistently in combat without me needing to back out of melee. Higher evasion, maybe even acrobatics would help with that. The issue is I'm not exactly sure how high I need to get my energy shield in the first place to avoid one shots. Anyhow, I'm not sure which is better. Would appreciate any feedback from those of you with more knowledge!

[tidal copper]

Catalyst affect the implicit?

[tidal copper]

If you are CI isn't eternal youth free?

[dark pulsar]

yes

[rancid cipher]

It stops the natural shield regeneration. I'd like to keep that.

[lone ravine]

Why do people use gemling instead of invoker for stacker ci builds ? Is it a big difference ?

[tidal copper]

Sorry I'm too pathfinder to read the downside

[tidal copper]

If you have 1000 intelligence how much mana can gemling get Vs invoker

[keen tartan]

How do Blueflame Bracers work with the Avatar of Fire passive? Fire dmg will be converted before or after Avatar of Fire?

[static spade]

Titan's ascendancy passive that gives 50% increase to small passives doesn't work if its inside Historic jewel. Is this normal or a bug?

[lone ravine]

What’s the cost for building a truly good gemling stacker build ci ?

Give it to me raw I need to know

[steady breach]

at least 7 ex (no clue really)

but i am confident it wont be less than 7ex

[haughty dove]

the one god amu is at least 200 div

[orchid vector]

Just generally curious how well other elements doing like ice,fire,choas and poison just seems that lightning is very much meta atm

[steady breach]

its probably just cos lightning has the most tools to make it good

since like half the skills and weapon types isnt in the game yet

[carmine flicker]

Also all fire spells are bad
Sadly

[abstract mortar]

how efficient is armour break for damage scaling?
broken armour amplifies only physical damage taken?

[dawn spire]

All conversions happen at once. If a damage type would get converted to two different things that sum to more than 100%, then it normalizes the weighting. What that means is that if you have the gloves and avatar of fire and a skill does 100 fire damage, it would add the 75% to fire from AoF and the 100% to cold from the gloves and basically turn those into what % they are of their total, 175%. 75% is 3/7ths of 175% and 100% is 4/7ths of 175%.

So your 100 fire damage would turn into 3/7ths fire and 4/7ths cold. And then that 4/7ths cold would be deleted because you cannot deal non-fire damage due to AoF.

[carmine flicker]

btw ice wall nuking still work/is good?

[supple jay]

If I'm getting a bunch of lightning damage from howa, but using rapid fire which converts partially to fire

Do I want to scale lightning or fire on my tree

Or both

[smoky lintel]

Hey all, does anyone know if physical damage stat on weapons affects projectiles?

[leaden moth]

Do I want this or lv 5 skeleton minion sceptre for my MOM minion witch build

[rustic cedar]

Yes.

[spare quartz]

Anyone have a successful P conc bosser? Feeling near maxed out on mine and with all the +1 map boss nodes i took, i have a hard time finishing them before flasks run out or i die

I run heavy crit for damage boost, 300k on the sheet but part of that is attack speed

[smoky lintel]

Thank you!

[spare quartz]

I based my build around a ingenuity and i think that's limiting my flask charges too much by not having a charge reduction belt

I think everybody ran from poison concoction after the bow skill fix

[keen tartan]

Uh thank you, it is deep 🤯 It seems those gloves are useless with AoF then.

[pseudo stratus]

any idea what this can go for?

[keen tartan]

For the mercenary fire cascade, nope, I was testing it yesterday and it doesn't hit the wall anymore. Idk why it was op but lightning build, destroying everything in seconds doesnt 🤷🏻‍♂️
It looks like we still stay with the only, lightning build for the mercenary.

[carmine flicker]

and for infernalist?

like ice wall fireball etc

[keen tartan]

Well, the wall still works as a wall, the only change is that doesn't work like an enemy unit that you could target.

[carmine flicker]

well
so no fireball-wall exploding?

[midnight geode]

whats an aura?

[coarse cosmos]

Does any merc player have an idea of how many ice wall-crystals does glacial bolt spawn ? pob does not seem to know so i would need to know to do the maths

[tidal willow]

At what point is it a good idea to look into grabbing 4&5 links for skills? And is it a waste to quality main skills before getting a lvl20 gem? Playing spark in t14 atm, looking to upgrade dps

[coarse cosmos]

i think if u're looking to play spark anyways u can quality it at any moment

you wont lose quality by upgrading it

[tidal willow]

awesome ty

[wary oasis]

Which venom draught should I go for an an LA ranger? (I'm basically following Fubguns, but it isnt mentioned)

[keen tartan]

if it explodes with a normal wall it should work as well if it works only with enemies it shouldnt gues

[full pendant]

can anyone help explain how im supposedly getting this huge damage conversion from PoB when i only have very minimal flat elem and 36% infusion. hard to tell in game if this is accurate, feels like it but i dont know.

[carmine flicker]

will flame wall be good addition to bone storm build?

[iron harbor]

I don't know, the added damage would most likely not be worth the extra button

You probably don't scale elemental damage so it would do very little, also ignite would suck because it's s lot of relatively small hits

[carmine flicker]

I can get avatar of fire and scale ele/fire damage

yeah, that's barely 22% more damage if I take AoF
doesn't look that good

it's just.. idk what to do with free spirit
wanted to cast on crit smth cause bonestorm good crit chance
but idk what

[serene minnow]

on skills with multiple projectiles like grenades, do crits roll per grenade ?

[winter vortex]

How much is 1% evasion as evasion rating value?

[midnight geode]

its more the higher ur evasion is

[winter vortex]

I want to know the numeric equation. Example: 100Evasion rate = +1% Evasion

[tidal copper]

I dunno if someone made PoE2 specific math https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Evasion

[sudden crown]

anyone know how can I enable that burning ground in PoB ? I dont see it anywere

[hot pelican]

What will happen with this combination?Why i die with full energy shield..Is bug?

[carmine flicker]

damn, I really need help
can someone please give me some advices what to do with a mess I really want to build
no idea where to get respectable damage on that...

[sudden crown]

you lose life

so with 1 life you die

[hot pelican]

but my shield is full

[carmine flicker]

does it really kill?
most effects like that stop at 1 life

well
look like it does..

[carmine flicker]

and?

this cause you to lose LIFE
no matter your shield

[paper saffron]

what are good general t1/t2 persistent buff skill to have?

[hot pelican]

yes ,wait i post pic

[normal sluice]

I had intended on building around lightning arrow, but it seems stormcaller arrow is much stronger in every respect. Anyone else finding that?

[hot pelican]

so 1 life also will die ,not like poison dmg

is it right?

[rocky wind]

early it's strong, specially for single target, but it is very underwhelming later on when you get some pierce. also, by the time the thunder falls most things would be dead with lightning arrow

question: if a hit shocks and also kills the target, does it count to activate innervate?

[torn moat]

Need opinion on spark with lightning rod vs crit spark. Is there a way to get through simulcarum with normal spark when ailment thres is killing me? See only crit builds that are able to run simulcarum but they are not good at bossing?

[brittle jetty]

Does this only activate when the heralds proc? Or is it just a permanent +50% as long as you have the spirit skill enabled

[kind ibex]

perma

its just increase base flat cold

or ligh

[brittle jetty]

so pretty strong as an anoint if youre running multi elements I guess

assuming youre using both heralds

[stiff quiver]

hey folks what does the number of deeds actually do for these jewels?

[kind ibex]

different number = different notable passives it gives or swaps

works the same as legion jewel in poe1

[lone ravine]

Has anyone here played both arc sorc and gemling stacker at high budgets? Which did you feel was better overall?

Spark*

[stiff quiver]

oh god so how do i know which one i need hahah to get the +str +ES one

[marsh sparrow]

just wondering

im guessing i dont get the crit

[sudden crown]

so sad that burning ground or shocked ground dont count to energy gain from meta skills 😦

[thin basin]

never > all

[rich fjord]

Is there any way at all to have archmage work with lighting arrow/lighting rods?

[sudden crown]

gonna try 0 button build ( no not the temporalis one )

and see if its viable

bcs if it is

I can finnaly play as braindead in poe 2 xd

[plain cloud]

Hey, can you calculate Warcry DPS in POB ?

[rancid cipher]

Can I take keystone nodes with weapon swap sets in the skill node tree?

[hasty meadow]

yoyo whats best build for boss carry, with minimum investment, lets say like 5d?

[dawn spire]

Nope, nor jewel sockets

[dawn spire]

Which bosses?

[lapis slate]

Do drops in bosses like trialmaster get an upgrade by rarity? To get the adorned for instance?

[ashen copper]

guys PoB2 doesn't support meta skills yet right?

[iron harbor]

Yeah

[hasty meadow]

hmm like sekhemas carry, ritual carry

[gusty kindle]

is there any reason to vaal that?

[hasty meadow]

i saw invoker kinda strong early on with minimum investment

[gusty kindle]

what would be to best possible outcome

[dawn spire]

It could get an extra socket or a vaal implicit

Or get higher/lower modifiers

[gusty kindle]

what would be the price difference there?

[dawn spire]

No clue, I don't trade. Check the trade site

[gusty kindle]

alright ty anyways

[dawn spire]

I'd check out if any YouTubers in ssf are demolishing that content. Then just use their build but with better gear you can buy in trade

[snow arch]

Is there some DPS increasing support gem for Plague Bearer I'm unaware of? I've already got AoE and both +gem supports on it

conc doesn't do anything to its DPS

[fiery scaffold]

on tempest bell would this only work on the impact damage or would it also affect the shockwave dmg?

[rancid cipher]

If I take nodes that have increased shock duration, then change my skill node set to one that no longer has those nodes, do I lose the increased duration or does it snapshot whatever I have active on application?

[snow arch]

"On use" should mean the whole duration of the skill

[fiery scaffold]

i see thanks

[dawn spire]

Does the Shockwave of the bell crit?

If it doesn't crit, then I imagine it just does damage based on the hit that struck the bell

[fiery scaffold]

when i open the shockwave stats the crit is stated there so i think it does

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot it?

[snow arch]

bell has its own damage or else people wouldn't trigger it with min level eye of winter

[dawn spire]

It looks like it should work for the shock waves from what I can tell.

[fiery scaffold]

the shockwave dmg comes from the ailments i apply to the bell not the dmg im hitting it with

i corrupted the bell and i got a 5th support gem slot so im trying to figure out which one is the best

im choosing between this or culling strike

[late plover]

Can withhunter be played with different weapon or it is locked with crossbow forever?

[viral kayak]

How do I use stormcaller arrow with a mercenary?

[undone peak]

u need a bow

and then you cut the gem

[viral kayak]

Cut the gem?

[undone peak]

take an uncut skill gem

and use it

[viral kayak]

I do already have the skill, but I saw a guide where the person used it on a mercenary build

Crossbow build btw

[undone peak]

it requires a bow

so they might be weapon swapping idk

[late plover]

Don't do it though. Warp teleport + ball lightning is miles better

[viral kayak]

Hmm oaky, I will try some stuff

I don't see warp teleport, do you mean lightning warp?

[late plover]

yeah

not in game now, don't remember exact naming

[severe raft]

can + % rarity on accessories be upgraded by catalysts? if yes which catalysts?

[woeful python]

What would be better for my galvanic shards witchhunter build storm caller arrow or tempest flurry?

[normal mango]

Is there anyone who is a chad at creating builds/passive trees who would like to help me out with a concept?

[tidal copper]

I can pretend that I am

[static plinth]

No

[late plover]

lightning warp + ball lightning

[drowsy tinsel]

Looking to pick up a quarter staff for 1 divine for my ice strike monk for mapping. How much physical damage would you say is worth a divine?

[bright path]

im using POB to make a hypothetical weapon, when i add a prefix and look at the new tooltip, its not showing overall dps % increase, any idea how to fix that?

[ashen copper]

how much accuracy is recommended for endgame?

[inland nebula]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/skiqj0y6
any advice andys can help out rq? I wanna run my first simulacrum but I dont want to die
Any gem/support swaps i should do, or skill tree/gear or jewel changes?

[fair scarab]

how much should i buy Ornate belt for?

[timber lily]

Would this kill you if you have Chaos Inoculation?

[static plinth]

No, because you wouldn't be able to cast your spells

[timber lily]

oh wow, that's interesting

[static plinth]

Its the same as if you had ran out of mana

Except now its life

[timber lily]

makes total sense. so it's anti-Chaos Inoculation

[static plinth]

Yeah, instantly makes you unable to do anything but weapon skills

[sudden crown]

anyone know what is the good margin for life stacker ?
how much life is good life ? I have 5k life is there way to get even more ??

[marsh bluff]

Is it possible to create a strong build as a cold-primary Stormweaver now?

[sudden crown]

the usual gemling tree xd

[spare quartz]

Anyone know is a solution for limited flask charges on a poison concoction build for bossing?
Stacking increased charges gained doesn't seem to be too effective. It works on the 0.25 charges per second from flask but i don't think it affects the 0.27 or however much from alchemists boon

Reduced charges used seems like it is more feasible paired with a flask that has 70% increased charges, but i only see that affix on belts and cap is 15%. I don't see it showing up on jewels like increased charges gained does

[potent hearth]

guys can I use energy barrier support on a buff? will it be actuve as long as the buff is on? :x

[spare quartz]

I'm not dishing out enough damage for map bosses after taking all the +1 level to map bosses nodes so i guess my first step is removing some of those.

I have a nice quiver with 50% crit chance and +2, 15% attack speed not much room to upgrade there, and I'm at 400% quiver bonus

[robust radish]

what are the best health/mana flask affixes btw

i just realized i am running the same flasks i had leveling

[wispy lynx]

How can I get 100 spirit in demon form witch to use archmage?

I'm at 60

[rocky wind]

can someone explain to me why fubgun's ranger build puts elemental focus in ice herald? Doesn't this prevent ice herald from shocking and thus enabling the chain reaction? I think he does it because the tooltip says that ice herald can't freeze, but seems like an oversight to forget about the shocking potential

[midnight surge]

is minion crit passives good with arsonists? or snipers?

[sudden crown]

bugged propably

[spare quartz]

Depends on your build but most people go for Gain 0.25 charges per second on their flask so they keep refilling

[robust radish]

i got that on my belt as an implicit

[midnight surge]

oh theres increased crit hit chance passives 🤦‍♂️

[sudden crown]

does "increased damage" increases my damage over time like ignite ?

[spare quartz]

If you aren't having trouble recovering flask charges, get an affix that makes your life or mana recover 20% instantly

[atomic halo]

as ignite is an ailment, it affects it indirectly

[sudden crown]

so more dmg ? good thats huge for me

[atomic halo]

yeah

well not more but increased but yeah

[robust radish]

doesnt this reduce the amount recovered?

[sudden crown]

ye ye

[spare quartz]

I don't believe so

[atomic halo]

that implicit doesn't

[keen knot]

Any1 know a gemling attribute stacking build that still relatively fast without using tempest flurry ? Got bored of getting stuck on terrain and the auto targeting on controller

[rancid cipher]

Can you use two different marks on the same mob like Voltaic Mark and Freezing Mark?

[sudden crown]

only with dead eye ascendancy

[inland nebula]

Welp i died in the simulacrum
Can someone help me improve this so i dont die next time in the simulacrum?
I'm quite braindead i dont know what to improve
Ingenuity yes, but that barely even does any improvement considering the price
20+ divs for a minor improvement in dps from pob2 unless i spend giga large on newer rings too which i cant afford

[pseudo flume]

I currently use storm wave and it gets the job done on t15 maps

[keen knot]

`yaeh but its just the mobility, id like to use another source of moblity

[pseudo flume]

Fair. I use temporalis/blink for mobility but I got it when they were dirt cheap

[keen knot]

maybe evasion stacking with queen of the foresti g

[slim spoke]

Welp yall have fun im taking a break from POE until they fix some certian skills. the fact i can 5 socket a skill and still have the base auto attack out dps that skill with no sockets is just unnacceptable balancing to me. looking forward until they come out with some new stuff, but theres been some serious oversight on slam skills/melee feel robbed of a playstyle.

[pseudo flume]

Not a bad idea, could always take stats from dex and dump more into strength or int to slow down tempest flurry

[keen knot]

`yeah thast should help tbh

[sage gyro]

How am I supposed to work at work with poe2db being down?

[keen knot]

i feel u

[wispy lynx]

How can I get 100 spirit in demon form witch to use archmage?

[abstract mortar]

my man

idk if someone answered u

but you can get both increased atkspeed and flat damage increased by vaaling it
and the price changes a lot
i got both stats increased at a time and the price went from 6 div to 40div

4% atkspeed and 12 flat lightning

[merry bone]

amulet and body armour

[lethal robin]

anyone know why my energie shield is not converted to mana?

i did a quick relog the game bugged out and never confirmed my reacolation

[woeful python]

Should I go with weapon master for witchhunter or refund the 3rd and 4th for something else

[wispy lynx]

My armour and amulet are uniques and can't roll spirit

[merry bone]

then no

Ventors can get you some - but most demon form have unique rings also.

You get 100 from campaign

[wispy lynx]

I'm following a build guide where he can reach 100 but I'm stuck at 60 idk where I've gone wrong

[merry bone]

act 6 azak bog

thats where you get the last 40 from

[wispy lynx]

You legend i missed that area
Thank you boss

[gaunt verge]

good or bad?

[hoary snow]

i am using a buildguide on maxroll that shows sorceress having spell AND minion damage increase in the passive tree. but in game it only shows spell damage increase. am i missing something?

[iron harbor]

Pretty useless

[daring bobcat]

some jewel can offer additional passives to your passive skills

is he using a time-lost jewel or something like that ?

[hoary snow]

the only jewel i see is a sapphire

[iron harbor]

No it probably shows the witch start for some reason

[hoary snow]

omg, i feel stupid now, i started with the wrong class

disregard please

[hybrid ocean]

Since you mention ball lightning, has anyone tried cast on shock lightning warp with that?

Wondering if that could be nicer to use than manually warping

[cyan plover]

whats a good full atlas skill tree? I'm kinda lost what i should pick

[tidal willow]

What pieces can I grab spirit on playing spark? running everlasting

[daring bobcat]

Chest is you need it

[tidal willow]

thank you, think it's the next logical upgrade to grab cast on shock

[daring bobcat]

I doubt it, grim feast would be more popular or no gaze straight mana spark storm

You're giving up mana and dps by getting spirit instead of higher ES

[tidal willow]

do you have a link on hand? I'm quite new to the class and game

oh I see grim feast is a spirit buff

[daring bobcat]

I play coldmage so no but I'm sure there are lots of spark guides out there it,s the META build afaik

[tidal willow]

I will look into a grim feast variation thank you

[dawn spire]

Are the only skills that scale with attributes decaying hex and corrupting cry? Or am I missing some?

[atomic halo]

stomping ground support or whatever it's called

Deals 80% to 120% of your Strength as Physical Damage

[dawn spire]

Pog, ty

I'm thinking about making some kinda str stacking gemling that doesn't use potcg in hcssf

Corrupting cry was my main focus, but that support might be helpful as well

Also, is Poe2db.tw down for anyone else?

[sage gyro]

Been up and down all day

[hybrid ocean]

If you do int instead of dex, you can run Black Scythe Training & Queen of the Forest

[heady palm]

corrupting cry only really works with warbringer

the cooldown without the ascendancy makes it unusable

[sharp lark]

which one of these is the best for a infernalist barrier invocation build?

[somber pendant]

question, will my charms still work if i equip a +2 slot belt. Equip 3, then switch to one with only one slot?

[gray lintel]

Is there a certain...or best skill tree guide for ice monk...im lvl 34 and the 2nd act boss is destroying me...i think i might of messed up my skill tree...this is my 1st top down game...really like it..but the one kit kill from bosses suck

[undone peak]

i like this person's guide: https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/grgr2013

[wanton juniper]

I really don't like being locked in multiple ways between attribute and resistance requirements. Any builds that don't worry about that much?

[undone peak]

but if your dps is low then chances are u simply need to upgrade your weapon by spending 1 ex to buy one off trade site

if u have exalted orb and want help finding a trade search let me know

[scarlet gorge]

What’s the price of caged pillar quarterstaff?

I see it on market for like one regal orb but ik they’re bs

[dawn spire]

Seismic cry has no cooldown as long as you don't hit something that's heavily stunned

[vital quail]

I've goten a corrupt caged god as high as %12 for 5 strength

[gray lintel]

@undone peak so this isvwhatbim running rt now

[hardy epoch]

anyone have a clever way in mind to proc elemental ailments when using Original Sin?

[gray lintel]

It has over 100%phys damage

And my helmet grants mr rage

Me

[undone peak]

That's good, but you should blacksmith whetstone it for 20% more damage

and 2x artificer's orb + 2x iron rune it as well for way more damage

glacial rune can be used instead of iron rune if u dont have 2 iron rune

[heady palm]

unfortunately that happens on every white mob

Try it now and see how you get on
It's really unplayable, and doesn't do enough single hit damage to be justifiable

[vital quail]

What's the base weapon swap speed? Is there any way to see our modified swap speed?

[gray lintel]

@undone peak 97% came on the staff...then i have 2 20% runes on it...should i change thise to cold

[undone peak]

no, you should blacksmith whetstone it

it's legit just a multiplier of 20% more dmg to you

[silent glade]

base is 250ms. no way to see final modified duration currently unfortunately, it's on the list to add!

[old oriole]

is it fine if i add 116% damage to my build? if i use fresh clip (my damage is multiplied by 1.87 when i do) and my shock is 79%(pob is capped at 50% now)

[normal sluice]

Interesting. So pierce and lightning arrow are strong 50+? Do you still try and focus on shocking and lightning damage while shocked?

[twilit cairn]

does this note make it so i break armor ?? or how can i break armor as a monk if not.

[dawn spire]

Even with a level 1 seismic cry, avatar of fire, and brutality?

[heady palm]

You'll eventually stun something and you'll have to idle for 8 seconds yeah

[dawn spire]

How will I stun something if I hit for 0 damage?

[heady palm]

Because the base dps of corrupted blood is quite weak, and you'll have to spam seismic cry to fight any mob worth your time

[dawn spire]

Wait, shit, "deal no nonfire damage" makes corrupting cry do zero damage

Shit

[hardy epoch]

I can't tell why my PoB isn't adding up my attributes total correctly. any general insights to that?

[heady palm]

Maybe it works with avatar of fire

[dawn spire]

That's what I'm saying tho. I'm trying to figure out a way to make seismic cry's hit do actually zero damage

So it cannot stun stuff on its own

[heady palm]

I'll hop on and try it right now

[dawn spire]

And a level one gem is actually very low base damage so I don't see that stunning something any time soon

[violet yarrow]

Does anymore tried to test totem on PoB and encounter issue where the totem nodes doesnt seems to affect the damage of the totem's skill? I'm testing with dark effigy to be specific

[dawn spire]

If there's some way to convert the physical of seismic cry to literally anything else, then the brutality support makes it do no damage

[dawn spire]

What does the node grant, specifically?

[static talon]

Random question, Call/Whisper of the brotherhood full conversion + Ingenuity. would that produce more output since it goes over 100% Conversion? I would assume not

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure where ingenuity fits in. That's cooldown recovery rate, isn't it?

And going over 100% conversion just means the weighting gets normalized

It does not add damage

[static talon]

That's what I was assuming realistically but never hurts to ask

[pearl sluice]

Does anyone know what a good rarity stat would be? Trying to get divs

[atomic halo]

100-150%

you dont need any more

[heady palm]

so having purity of fire removes the corrupted blood - you lose like 80% dps testing now, forgot gem
yep, it stops corrupted blood
stun meter still builds with fire, can show you in a call

[pearl sluice]

Bet ty

[normal sluice]

Is PoB 2 accounting for levels to projectile skills? I'm running deadeye ranger focusing on shocking, and it's telling me this bow on the right (without the projectile skill levels) is a 355 dps increase over my current one (with 3 skill levels - bow on right). Thoughts?

[violet yarrow]

All the nodes doesnt seems to do anything

[undone peak]

my thought is that the bow on the right is way better lol

[dawn spire]

Nah, I know stun can build from any hit. My plan was to use brutality linked to seismic cry and corrupting cry, then find some way to convert seismic cry to another type. Ty for testing that tho!

[flat island]

anybody run an ice strike and or flicker invoker monk give me a hand with something rq?

[atomic halo]

you can check if it's applying

add +1 somewhere and see if the dmg number changes

[heady palm]

its honestly not possible - im trying to upload a clip right now.
I couldn't clear a tier1 pack (white)

[dawn spire]

Are those nodes generic totem damage or do they specify attacks or something?

[dawn spire]

Not with avatar of fire, no

[normal sluice]

For sure a possibility. I just remember projectile levels being so good in PoE 1. I wasn't sure if a decent bow with +3 could be beaten by a good stat bow without any levels.

[dawn spire]

But I was thinking of using some kinda unique item to convert it, if possible

[violet yarrow]

cast speed and generic totem damages, its the cluster on top left of the tree

[heady palm]

regardless - you will be stunning every pack and you can't cast for 8 seconds

[dawn spire]

I won't be stunning if the seismic cry does zero damage

And that's the goal

[heady palm]

🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 brother

[dawn spire]

Dots can't build up stun, can they?

[atomic halo]

they cant

[dawn spire]

So if seismic cry does literally zero damage, and I'm only using that with corrupting cry, nothing will ever get stunned, right?

[scarlet shadow]

How do I begin to compare "36% increased damage" vs "45% increased critical damage bonus"? (at 44.25% crit chance) The 36% sounds better, but I'm very confused by the damage formula and crit math. 🤔

[dawn spire]

Explain where I'm wrong and I'll grant your facepalms

[humble wave]

If I want to build myself a new crossbow what's the best way to min max the traits it gets? I want attack speed, physical damage, projectile level. Should I be using Essence of Torment and Greater Essence of torment first?

lvl 87 trying to replace this:

https://i.gyazo.com/1f0ce8af4fd3f3cc6405b10015da9582.png

[dawn spire]

With pob

[heady palm]

Listen I am not here to argue - I am telling you that it's not possible to just make your skill do 0 damage.
Even with corrupting cry, 10 stacks, you are doing 10k dps at best.

There is nothing viable, and nothing scalable
I'm trying to tell you this
Seismic cry also starts at level 11, not lvl 1

[opal bobcat]

Are there jewels or runes which grant spirit? Trying to plan my build and I'm missing 19 spirit - only spirit source from armor I can use is an amulet, and cant get it from a weapon

[hushed glen]

Hey, do somebody hava a gemling/pillar build for people who doesnt have a Howa yet? Would be cool, ty

[dawn spire]

I'd wager we have different definitions of viable

[dawn spire]

Sorry, my b, yeah, tier 11

[dawn spire]

I'm at work and catch watch that. It won't load, unfortunately

Is it a showcase of corrupting cry doing no damage?

[undone peak]

the footage is not working

[heady palm]

Yes, and also the stun rate

[undone peak]

there is audio but no video

[heady palm]

Weird, must be a thing with discord

[flat island]

anybody run an ice strike and or flicker invoker monk give me a hand with something rq?

[atomic halo]

i can watch it just fine

[undone peak]

wtf...

[atomic halo]

soul core

azcapa, the really expensive one

[undone peak]

ah if i download the clip and view it in VLC it works

weird

[atomic halo]

grand spectrum can grant 2% per, but i reckon it's expensive as well

another option is helmet corrupt, goes up to +30

[rocky wind]

one doubt: if a hit shocks and also kills the target, does it count to activate innervate?

[dawn spire]

Without poedb up I can't search for stuff that could convert seismic cry, unfortunately. But I don't get what you mean by it not being scalable. It can scale with str, physical damage, damage over time, warcry damage, rage (if you use that support to make it spend rage to deal more damage), and probably more stuff I haven't found yet

[rocky wind]

"Killing a Shocked enemy with supported skills infuses all of your Attacks with Lightning damage for a short time"

[heady palm]

Even the top warbringer builds end up speccing into totems as a DPS boost
The only good thing about the seismic cry is the knockback + aoe

[dawn spire]

Good thing I'm not aiming to be a top build then

I want to be tanky af and stack str. Corrupting cry scales with str so I wanna give it a go

[heady palm]

Unfortunately armour doesn't work great either

if you str stack, you're most likely running armour

[dawn spire]

Yeah I don't wanna use armor

[heady palm]

then you won't be able to stack much str

[dawn spire]

???

Show your work

[heady palm]

also without the shield ascendancy on warbringer you're very squishy

[dawn spire]

I can just use a good shield with more than 40% block

[heady palm]

yeah no

[dawn spire]

I think having thousands of extra life from gemling is pretty solid in its own right

[nocturne fjord]

Does ingenuity belt bonus apply to all mods on rings. Prefix and suffix?

[dawn spire]

What does that belt do?

Can you ss it?

[heady palm]

The life does nothing if you have:

• no defensive layers
• no dps
• no block
• no sustain

[daring bobcat]

It does

[nocturne fjord]

% increased bonuses gained from Equipped Rings

[nocturne fjord]

Ok thx

[opal bobcat]

I've actually not corrupted yet - still in campaign
Not exactly sure how it works, if I corrupt an item does it have a set of possible outcomes, or it can gain any stat or lose any stat?
Also isn't soul core of azcapa only increasing spirit if you put it on weapon? I use demon form, so no weapons

[atomic halo]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Corrupted

and for the soul core, yeah, it doesnt work for you

[waxen jewel]

Does projectile bounce enable the same projectile to hit an enemy it already hit before the bounce? It sure as hell seems like that with lighting arrow + lightning rod.

[dawn spire]

1. Life, block, minions, and regen
2. Dps was never one of my top priorities here
3. I don't get how warbringer gives you block that you can't get from a decent rare shield
4. Yeah sustain is a worry, tbh. But something like font of life on a totem combined with loads of regen might be enough to get by

I'm mostly just trying to figure out a way around the seismic cry stun thing and then the rest will be trial and error

[atomic halo]

spark is kinda special

[waxen jewel]

And this would also explain why spark builds I've seen use so much projectile speed

[heady palm]

1. 40% block does not protect you from ALL hits, like the warbringer ascendancy. Regardless, it's not enough
2. If you don't do DPS - you spend a lot of time taking damage -> if you don't kill things, the things are hitting you.
3. Warbringer ascendancy allows ALL hits to be blocked.
4. Regen isn't really a factor in this game, especially if you get chunked for 5k at a time with no armour (and 4k with armour since armour is very weak)

The best str stacking chest also blocks your HP regen btw

[dawn spire]

Well then it sounds like my build might suck and die. So any ideas on how to get seismic cry to not stun stuff?

I didn't come here to make a good build, I came here to make the build that's in my brain so I can rip to cruel act 3 silverfist most likely

[undone peak]

Chains cannot chain to an enemy it already hit earlier in the chain.

[waxen jewel]

Bounce is not chain, it's another mechanic

[dawn spire]

I doubt I'll have access to that in hcssf anyway

And if I can't get around the stun thing then I guess I'll make a warbringer or chrono

[undone peak]

Which bounce then mate?

[waxen jewel]

Wait I might be very confused now

[undone peak]

You're confusing me. You said LA and LR

[waxen jewel]

Because Lighting arrow specifically says it can't chain. Then richochet support still somehow works with it, even though Richochet uses the keyword Chain

That's why I always thought it was different mechanic

[daring veldt]

Hey! i was wondering if sorc is an expensive class to make? I wanna be able to do t15 maps easily but not too expensive classes. Any suggestions pls? or any other class suggestion which wont be too expensive and can do maps faster

[undone peak]

The projectile cannot chain. The beam chains.

LA is a two part skill.

Check the Beam tab.

[dreamy acorn]

To anyone familiar with Loadouts in PoB:
How do you remove a loadout? I've got duplicate entries.
I searched every file in the PoB directory for the name of a loadout ("bossing"; using Notepad++ to search directories), and it got nothing except my item sets, trees, etc.
Where in the world are loadouts saved? How to remove them?

EDIT: Got it. It had created duplicate passive trees and was reading from those.

[violet yarrow]

so I checked the github page and seems like the whole totem calculation seems to be bugged right now

[waxen jewel]

I know it's 2 part skill. My mistake was assuming the base arrow richochets, which is not true. Thanks for your patience!

[dawn spire]

I was doing T12 maps no problem on my ice shot chrono in ssf. All classes have cheap and expensive builds

[undone peak]

Sorc is not expensive imo

[daring veldt]

it's just i like how sorc works and can clear maps easily but it's like is it good even without temporalis? can it easily clear t15 or higher without it?

[burnt needle]

what are good against the darkness mods for minion builds? i can think of spirit + max fire res (infernalist) or anything else with + spirit. any thoughts on this?

[undone peak]

In fact I'd guess spark stormweaver is one of the best league starters from a power:price ratio standpoint

[waxen jewel]

My original question is still unanswered though: Can bouncing projectiles (from spark) hit same enemy multiple times after bounce?

[daring veldt]

i might be wrong but i am new so still elarning and confused

[undone peak]

Each spark cast sends out X projectiles. All of the projectiles from this cast share an internal cooldown of 0.66 seconds on how often they can hit a particular mob.

[dawn spire]

Idk what you mean by "how sorc works" because I'm using sorc to fire a bow and freeze stuff and blow up bosses with a 6-frenzy barrage snipe. All classes can use all skills and gear. Can you be more specific about the skill or archetype you want to play?

[undone peak]

A single projectile from a cast cannot by default hit twice (unless you have a source of pierce), but another projectile belonging to that cast could hit the target after the 0.66s internal cooldown.

I mean, it's better if I say that without pierce a spark projectile will disappear once it hits something.

But since sparks sends out so many projectiles per cast, you can shotgun very effectively with it by hitting every 0.66s.

[dawn spire]

Most builds get insanely strong with a temporalis, yeah, but you also don't ever need temporalis to clear t15 maps

[undone peak]

Projectile speed and projectile duration are therefore forms of DPS scaling for spark in particular as it increases the likelihood and amount of maximum times of hititng the target every 0.66s.

[dawn spire]

Spark, the only skill where you need to use the heisenberg uncertainty principle to calculate your dps

[undone peak]

Spark is OP since it has insane screen coverage, can go around corners, can shotgun, and has more vectors of scaling than most other spells.

And it's a lightning skill and lightning is very strong compared to fire (for example)

Fire spells having the lowest base crit chance makes zero sense to me lol

Ignite is already the weakest ailment of the three elemental damage types, but w/e

[waxen jewel]

Spark shotgunning also isn't mentioned in the tooltip, while the tooltip of Projectile says: "When a group of multiple projectiles is fired from the same source at the same time, only one Projectile in the group can hit each target unless otherwise specified.". Spark doesn't specify otherwise.

In this case the bug is probably in the tooltip and not in the skill though.

[undone peak]

Yeah I would agree that spark's tooltip is missing some crucial information.

But this is also why pierce is a bad support gem

It's not really a DPS increase

It's a clearspeed increase, but it's not necessary at all

[dawn spire]

Are there any support gems or uniques that convert physical damage to another type?

[undone peak]

So any guides recommending pierce on spark are bad guides imo lol

[undone peak]

Hmm we can use PoB to check that easy now

[dawn spire]

Good point. Sockets scattershot

[undone peak]

let's see

[dawn spire]

I'm stuck at work for a Lil bit. Ty for sating my curiosity

[undone peak]

oof... i see none...

[dawn spire]

Rip

[undone peak]

i didn't check support gems

[daring veldt]

mainly archemage, like i saw variant of spark and lighting and other i saw was ice.

[dawn spire]

What about something that prevents you from stunning enemies or raises enemy stun threshold?

[atomic halo]

physical convert outside of gems is very rare for some reason

[daring veldt]

how does that work?

[dawn spire]

That's a huge swath of build types. You can almost certainly find incredibly cheap and incredibly expensive versions of archmage builds

[dawn spire]

The Heisenberg uncertainly principle states that, and I'm grossly simplifying it, the more you know about the position of a subatomic particle, the less you can be certain of its velocity. And the converse is true. The more you know about the velocity of a particle, the less you can be certain of its position

It was a dumb physics joke about how hard it is to calculate "true" spark dps

[daring veldt]

lol

[undone peak]

So your goal is to not stun enemies with seismic?

Do you care about the dps it does?

[dawn spire]

Narp, I care about corrupting cry dps, tho

So avatar of fire is a no go

[undone peak]

Corrupting cry on seismic?

Or on another cry

[dawn spire]

The goal is to get a warcry to go off as much as possible to apply a lot of corrupting blood via corrupting cry

And I don't wanna go warbringer unless I have to

And seismic cry cooldown resets if you don't hit a stunned enemy

So it seemed like my best bet

[undone peak]

Right so corrupting cry on seismic

I see what you're doing

[dawn spire]

Aye

[undone peak]

Hmmm

[restive mortar]

there's the amulet or ring that's converts to chaos

ring i think

[dawn spire]

I'm not at my pc to check

[restive mortar]

it got buffed in the patch so doesn't give 0 chaos res anymore which is nice

[undone peak]

original sin is just ele dmg convert

[restive mortar]

ohhh

my bad

[dawn spire]

Damn, ty tho

[undone peak]

i checked all the uniques that has convert in the tooltip

it's all ele dmg conversion stuff

[restive mortar]

there's the avatar of flame notable but then you have to path there

keystone

[dawn spire]

What does that bone wand do lol

[undone peak]

byron

we got the solve, mate

[dawn spire]

And it'll make my corrupting cry do zero dps

[dawn spire]

Let's goooooo

[undone peak]

lfg

[dawn spire]

Just eats a support slot, but worth

Not like I was gonna be able to use all five efficiently anyway

[restive mortar]

I didn't see the rest of discussion sorry

[dawn spire]

All Gucci

[undone peak]

i am still confused on how stun and heavy stun interact though

[dawn spire]

They're the same thing

[undone peak]

Does "unable to Stun" also mean unable to cause Heavy Stun?

Nah stun and heavy stun aren't the same thing, right?

[vital quail]

Are there any enemies that "Hinder" the player?

[undone peak]

Heavy stun is the big bar under mobs that builds up

[dawn spire]

Heavy stun is just how rares and uniques get stunned

[undone peak]

and any hit can cause it

stun is something physical hits can cause and it builds up

[dawn spire]

But 100% less stun build up means those hits won't build it

[undone peak]

ok ok

nice

[dawn spire]

Any hit can cause it

If you don't have 100% less stun build up

[daring veldt]

I am a deadeye but can i move point around again once i chose the ascendancy nodes in deadeye already?

[chrome linden]

anyone got a uncut lvl 8 skill gem that i could trade for?

[dawn spire]

Yeah you can refund ascendancy nodes for 5x the price of normal nodes

[dawn spire]

No trading on this server, sorry

[daring veldt]

alright

[undone peak]

ahhhhh

so yes pin will solve the issue

[restive mortar]

isn't it just always 5000 per

[undone peak]

neat

[chrome linden]

my fault

[undone peak]

that's a cool build idea man

[dawn spire]

Narp, I think that's for atlas nodes

[restive mortar]

ah right

[chrome linden]

been trying to get this for 2 days on my last legs

[dawn spire]

Yeah I'm thinking it'll suck a lot, but we'll see

[restive mortar]

just go on the trade site

[viral crag]

Anyone use POB's trade feature? Any reference on that you can recommend?
Having trouble configuring it to search with weights that do... well, anything that I want 😅
Cannot seem to get it to understand "Yes, a 20% DPS upgrade is nice... but not at the expense of 50% of our EHP"

[undone peak]

sounds like the type of build that might be mediocre today but great 2 years from now when there's more stuff in teh game to scale it lol

[chrome linden]

cant find any they keep saying not listed

[pseudo patrol]

as a ranger what a better bow towards endgame 2-3 lvls to proj skills or additional arrow ik both is rare to find

[dawn spire]

Gemling seems like a shoe-in for the build since I'll be stacking str and gemling doubles the life from str. But there's also a world where I just go something like chrono and use recoup for sustain. Or pathfinder for insane life flask sustain. Or Infernalist for loads of ES from my life

[undone peak]

dualstring bow is basically mandatory in endgame

the other bow bases are just so much worse

but if you're early on in the character's progress then beggers can't be choosers

[pseudo patrol]

ok so i have %phys lighning dmg and 2lvls to skills atm what would be better

true atm im lvl 84

[undone peak]

it really depends on stats of the bows

[pseudo patrol]

should i still go for lightning dmg or more phys

[undone peak]

it really dpeends on the stats of the bows

[pseudo patrol]

true

[undone peak]

in general you want as high of a phys dps as possible on the bow

but when you're comparing two specific bows then there's a lot to consider and it's not as simple as "stat A" > "stat B"

[pseudo patrol]

yeah theresd alot i still dont know lol atm im at like 29k dmg jumps to 60k when i have heralds up

[undone peak]

this is a halfway decent bow search: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/kqrPG9Wu5

sort by phys dps

and you can restrict the exalted orb price using the filter

like on a 50 exalted orb budget u can get a pretty damn nice bow

[lean bridge]

Can anyone point me to a pillar of the caged god build? cheap one since it's my first toon

[undone peak]

That's a very difficult way to league start PoE 2

just fyi...

Pillar is usually a second character build

It can be okay without HoWA, but it still requires items with lots of stats and they can be expensive

[thorny token]

if you get half decent rings then pillar works pretty well, like its one of the best leveling setups too

[lean bridge]

any cheaper leveling alternative then? im level 31

[undone peak]

Yeah probably just level as normal merc

but if you're already level 31 then what have you been doing?

i'm assuming you're going gemling

[lean bridge]

im following this build: https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/462a6cbb-bfb4-43da-ad47-0e082e71241d/builds/297aa43e-be6d-4b3a-b23f-e0da70794c03?weaponSet=set1

but im getting recked on act 3

[undone peak]

you're a monk?

[lean bridge]

yes!

[undone peak]

hmmm

seems like a good enough leveling setup, although monk is a optimal choice for a pillar of the caged gods build

if you're dying with that guide then probably your weapon is bad

what is your weapon?

can u screenshot

[undone peak]

okay that's why

that is very bad

do u have 1 exalted orb?

[lean bridge]

I do, yes. I have 20

[undone peak]

okay one sec

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/2WOGJRYhk

check these out and buy one that seems best

[lean bridge]

Thank you!

[undone peak]

should more than double your dps

sort by phys dps

[lapis slate]

Is rarity affecting drops on bosses like trialmaster (chaos trials)?

[undone peak]

it should

it won't affect which boss-specific unique you get though

[lapis slate]

Yeah, I meant the adorned diamond for instance

[undone peak]

no it should not affect the drop cahnce of that

[lapis slate]

and the roll of it?

[undone peak]

no

[lapis slate]

ty

[upbeat crow]

why is my herald of ice and lightning not proccing im gemling attribute stacker help me pls

[restive mortar]

similar but different increased relic drop chance relics does make zarokh drop more unique relics

ok chat can yall help ive been planning a build for a while but i cant pin some things down

the idea is to use quecholli crumbling maul to cast on crit, and then decided the best way to scale is if the spell and attack do the same damage so using avatar of fire and comet

and if its doing fire damage can then also use cast on ignite for more procs also with comet

and as for the attack volcanic fissure doesnt have a flat attack time and converts to fire, and aftershocks cause more hits so more crits

also decided monk invoker for the ascendancy that allows crits to ignore resistance, and increased meta energy gain

but im not sure how to fit all these pieces together, how to scale defence, etc etc

[sly leaf]

Is there any way to increase Hell Hound's ignite dmg via the passive tree other than increasing its max HP?
Like, any node that improves my ailment magnitude or fire damage won't change a minion's right?
but minion damage might increase ignite on the hellhound?

Follow-up question: Since Hellhound and Flame Wall just constantly put Ignites on things, does that means when Firestorm consumes an Ignite it just gets immediately re-applied before Firestorm can hit again?

[hybrid ocean]

Does converting more than 100% of damage do anything?

[undone peak]

no, it'll normalize it

but in a super convoluted way in some cases lol

[merry bone]

only minion nodes - but yes minion damage does impact it.

And you should be able to consume the ignite and immediately re-apply with Firestorm.

Not sure what your goal is with that though, because Firestorm dmg is kind of bad (especially on single target) - youd often be better by casting a Command ability or something like Eye of Winter / Curse.

Also with Dog constantly igniting - it makes immolate an attractive support for other minions

[undone peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJZiI80fq0

dreamcore has a good video on damage conversion and he goes over how it works

[mystic shard]

hey, if u made ur spark really really SLOW, would it hit multiple times?

[undone peak]

conversion from skill gems take priority over conversion from other sources.... so it's weird

[undone peak]

projectiles from a single cast of spark can hit a particular enemy once every 0.66s

so if you could theoretically make a spark stay inside the model of an enemy and crawl through it for the entire duration of the spark, then yes it'd hit every 0.66s

well

a spark proj disappears after hitting an enemy once

unless you have pierce

[restive mortar]

can you use 2 of the same aura?

guessing no

[next mesa]

So how do I make storm caller arrows work with bolts bc I see that there's a bolt tab on the skill but it keeps saying incorrect weapon type. Can I not use crossbow?

[undone peak]

stormcaller arrow requires a bow

[plain yacht]

Does anyone have a suggestion of the best way to integrate shock debuff on sniper minion build?

[dawn spire]

that bolt tab is giving you the stats of the lightning bolt that that skill creates. It has nothing to do with crossbow bolts

[plain yacht]

Minions deal lightning damage on scepter wont do it, right?

[dawn spire]

it could do it, but it would be highly unreliable due to a low shock chance due to low lightning damage

[pseudo patrol]

y is additinal arrow better than 3 lvl for skills at end game

[next mesa]

Ahhhhh okay. This build I'm looking at uses a crossbow but has stormcaller arrow on it

[hybrid ocean]

Thanks, cheers!

[dawn spire]

I've seen people weapon swap for it so they can do a gnarly shock

[plain yacht]

Are the damage rolls on those scepters multiplied out by everything or is it just tagged on at end of minion damage?

[next mesa]

Ohhhhh okay that makes sense

[hasty vale]

What do you guys reckon makes a good ignite build? Is it usually a skill that has a hard hitting single hit or can you still build around it with a multi-hitting but weaker hitting skill

[late plover]

Looking for witchhunter build that costs around 20 div... any tips?

[dawn spire]

ignites cannot stack, only the highest damaging ignite on a target actually affects it

but it's very hard to get 100% chance to ignite a target, so you realistically need BOTH frequent hits AND high damage

which is why ignite builds aren't super popular rn, I'd reckon

[hasty vale]

I’m trying to grab inspiration for EK ignite from PoE1 and understand what made it so good

[dawn spire]

what made it good was how strong conversion was. It also had added fire support going for it as well as the ability to get 100% chance to ignite on every enemy

[elfin gate]

Stormweaver spark build crit vs mana stacking ?

[lean bridge]

got this baby. it was double my dps indeed. now i need to stay alive. haha

[dawn spire]

por qué no los dos?

but I guess it depends on what you wanna do and how much mana costs vs crit

[elfin gate]

Im debating if i should lean non crit to add lightning rod to the build

[hasty vale]

I see because currently I’m trying to do a crit avatar of fire bonestorm ignite build. Which fixes the conversion issue (tho misses out on some damage) but struggles getting some high base damage. I’m scaling levels on the gem best as I can but I’m not sure if it’s the right skill for this

[dawn spire]

bonestorm is famously a ton of itty bitty hits, I don't see it doing much for ignite

[dawn spire]

how would you fit lightning rod into a spark build?

ooooh, the notable

not the bow skill

[elfin gate]

Anointed on my amulet

Currently I have wildstorm

[dawn spire]

pob can help you figure out which one has higher dps

[elfin gate]

Thanks I haven’t messed with pob yet

[sly leaf]

I'm going with a Flamewall, Ember Fusillade, Raging Spirits, Doggo, Living Bomb, Firestorm build xD

I tried Arsonists, don't love them.

Regarding Immolate yup, plan was to put that on Raging Spirits

[pearl sluice]

does anyone know if this is where my dps should be at for t15+ endgaming? clearing isnt too bad but i get slapped around on pinnacle bossing

[plain yacht]

Also, cast on minion death with legion/instability something feasible?

[hollow bronze]

I'm playying a monk and my mama just gets melted. What's a good way to fix this? I only have 3 gems on my flurry

[plain yacht]

I got some +5 chaos wands burning a hole

Do you have +skills on staff? Any mana per kill?

[hollow bronze]

I got 6 meleee on skill lol it's maxed to 20 now lol

I'm lvl 55 atm

[plain yacht]

Thats the big reason - you probably arent ready for pumping skills that high

Cut back down to a lower level gem for a bit

Only on the skill you spam, keep the big + on your bell/etc

[hollow bronze]

Yeah... How do I cut back? Just use a different staff till I get mana reg or the gem that uses 40% less mana?

[plain yacht]

Use another uncut skill gem like level 6 or something

Unequip current one, cut a new lower level one

[hollow bronze]

Oh shit okay

Good plan!

I have millions of them little fuckers lol

[chilly pebble]

Anyone really good with build planning/set up that has a few mins would be amazing could use the help have POB and others things too. Have the currency to make my build work as well.

[lavish haven]

can that thing be used for any build?
trying to price it but i dont even know if it can be used 😄

[hollow bronze]

Yeah is there an option to let people help me build my Gear? I got 50ex to upgrade lol

[plain yacht]

I will caution against doing that, as you will trivialize the game and then hardly find anything for yourself

[carmine flicker]

would that be a good idea to go archmage for bonestorm?

[plain yacht]

I find like one upgrade a week SSF, would be way less if I had bought gear

Try to do self-imposed SSF and still use currency exchange, or at the most buy a decent few ex staff and self find the rest

[spare root]

should my chaos res be 75% as well?

[merry bone]

That is alot of Self-cast damage - and honestly minion builds have to stack so many minion passives, its hard to justify the self damage.

Oh i guess you didnt mention any other skeletons - so maybe you are just doing self-cast infernalist. At which point, not sure about the SRS - they just wont do enough without proper support unless you are using them for things like Blind/Maim to add more defensive layers to your character

[carmine flicker]

yeah, choose one or the other
only self damage skill minion builds usually can afford is detonate dead
you know
cause it's insane by default

[sly leaf]

Yup you got it, self-cast centric build with the SRS there because what else am I gonna spend spirit on, and doggo is more for the damage reduction / distraction than doing damage, but I was curious about the mechanics of it

Early game Flamewall + Fusillade produces a LOT of skulls so it is a significant boost atm

[merry bone]

SRS with Blind/Maim/Cull is great defensively. Highly suggest it in your setup. Dog with Fire Exposure and Strip Away

[carmine flicker]

problem is - fire spells are kinda bad
I tried
every other element outperform by a mile

[sly leaf]

I still like them, balance patch is coming some time so I can ride it out

[merry bone]

i wouldnt expect any balance patches for another 1.5-2 months

[carmine flicker]

low base damage, low crit, cast speed isn't any good either

[sly leaf]

Fusillade is fun though and Scattershot triples its' cast speed

[carmine flicker]

yeah, that one is good with lots of reduced duration nodes...

[static plinth]

Is it possible to get fusillade to fire inbetween casts

[sly leaf]

I thought Unseal was the way to go until I saw how Scattershot interacts

[carmine flicker]

it is
it's also too much work with timings and shit

[carmine flicker]

actually - you go both

[sly leaf]

Also PoB says Flamewall interaction with Fusillade is a huge boost

[carmine flicker]

to get 9 per cast

[static plinth]

Does Unseal have the Blade Vortex interaction with fussilade?

[carmine flicker]

but at that point just go bone storm and enjoy your own fantasy bone shotgun

[carmine flicker]

nah

still 9 embers at the cost of one tap

[sly leaf]

That makes sense, but also you're losing so much damage to the combination of the two.. Then again I guess it makes the Flamewall interaction that much more impactful

[static plinth]

I guess but 6 are half damage

[carmine flicker]

it's 5% more per ember

so having 9 is.. good

(7% more with quality)

[sly leaf]

yeah, I think I'll stick to Scattershot though for now, because the base cast time is already not very long and I was already planning on a bunch of cast speed nodes

[static plinth]

God archmage is good 😭

I dont want to use it though

[carmine flicker]

no, no
you don't go cast speed with embers

you go reduced duration
so duration is lesser than cast speed

so you could just hold button and let it rain

[sly leaf]

Doesn't that mean you never get the +5-7% though? Because that is based on how many you've stocked up?

Oh I guess unless you're doing what you said with Unseal + Scatter

[carmine flicker]

you WILL, cause unleash and scattershot

so you have that stupid fire minigun in your hand

[sly leaf]

I would take this advice if not for you already telling me the damage is underwhelming with that setup