2┃build-planning

[undone peak]

armour just isn't good tbh but what is good is getting to giant's blood keystone so u can 2h + shield, because block is actually very good

but yeah early on warrior just gets hit a lot due to delayed damage output

it's not any weaker than other classes from a defensive stat perspective early on in campaign, but it's effectively weaker defensively due to having a harder time applying its damage output frequently enough to avoid enemies reaching the warrior

[dense bramble]

anyone know if cast on shock/lightning conduit combo gem levels matter? should i buy level 20s for them?

trying to min/max

[marsh river]

nah gemling mrc

merc

well its only defense i can really get

short of cutting my dps to half

well not half but a lot less

"early on" im bloody 89, i just want to farm gear in peace and not die to every 2nd boss map boss

why doesent this game properly scale down, it was garbage t13 map too

[fervent briar]

still no pob information i take it?

[marsh river]

stupid vicious circle of no gear= dying =no gear

[fervent briar]

you have to be more patient and dodge roll out of everything

[marsh river]

i tried but it still did go brr and dead one time, all it takes

even stayed outside of boss screen most of the time

[undone peak]

oh that map boss is just scary

particularly that move you're talking about

[dawn spire]

I think that's chaos damage, but I'm not certain. Resistances matter a lot more than armor for most things

[marsh river]

just realized it was extra 2 projectiles mod that got me

[undone peak]

i have never played a melee in this game to maps but i imagine that boss is a nightmare for melee

[marsh river]

yeah i have max res except chaos

[undone peak]

as spark i just stand offscreen and pump

as melee he's forcing you to move constantly lol

[marsh river]

totems

[undone peak]

gemling totems

spicy

[marsh river]

which is why its so silly, i should have had easy life chilling off screen

[fervent briar]

there are monster mods to prevent people from off screening glass cannon. how much hp do you have and do you have block

[marsh river]

2.7k something

3.7

and yes i do have some gear with health and every little strength

[fervent briar]

do you have any avoidance layers like evasion/block?

[marsh river]

not really, it would be super tight to get one added

[fervent briar]

ya. life and res isnt enough

[marsh river]

i used to have block, but that was without giants blood dual wield

[fervent briar]

unless you have like 8k hp maybe

drop the dual wield and put on a shield

its the trade off to stay alive

[marsh river]

hmm maybe ill do that

i think i can compensate the loss of 2nd weapon

[fervent briar]

you can also use a skill to use shield then another to go back to dual wield real fast. I played totems in hcssf where i put totems out duel wield then i did resonating shield to go back to shield and get 100% block while channeling

[marsh river]

does it snapshot totems with melee skills?

[fervent briar]

i died to mortar, its unblockable as far as i know

they do the damage based on what weapon you set them with

i did something similiar to what grapplr did.

[marsh river]

hmm ok, that would be slightly annoying to swap allt he time tho

i should be able to set totem cast to 2nd weapins et with sual wield?

[grand harbor]

hey ive just reached cruel on my chronomancer i am looking for someone to help out with build ideas from here i would be interested in both trying something different or expanding on what i have if you wunna help im down to hop in a call or whatever

[marsh river]

so no need to even swap, except to swap back

[fervent briar]

yes, you just set your totems to dual wield weapons and use a skill that pulls your shield out like shield charge or something

[marsh river]

like 90% of the stuff is fine, they just die before they do anything

[fervent briar]

ya. most people just dont even know yet what all tools they could have easily.

people that are dying a lot anyways

also if you stick in a map with multi proj and you die, thats to be expected if you get shotgunned.

[compact ravine]

anyone can recommend a good atlas tree? ive been focusing mostly and monsters packs, waystones drops, and similar stuff. i wonder if u should focus a little bit more on waystones modifiers and similar

[marsh river]

its not that i dont know evasion and block is good, its hard to fit those things into a build that is already bit stretched

let alone some cheesy ES abuse

[fervent briar]

well thats probably because you are overspecced into damage

[marsh river]

i did have atzirs before, probably should go back to it, while gearing

[fervent briar]

If you're around the bottom left of the tree you are balanced to where you have to choose between damage and defense and have to actually use your tools to stay alive and do damage. You cant just get es and mana and press spark and win

[marsh river]

was gonna share the tree but it doesent even fit a full screen

[fervent briar]

pob soon i hope

[marsh river]

the build i took inspiration off also has stuff i dont currently hahve yet

[fervent briar]

then player count will dip for a couple days outside of people afking hideout and pobbing

[tight raft]

when PoB drops there's just going to be thousands of AFK characters in game

[marsh river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxrur1n2aI

dont have gems for regen etc

it kinda works, just have to find safer way to progress til better geared

[fervent briar]

i never had that high of totem level to need to go blood magic so i solved mana differently and didnt spend all of those points to the top left.

Armour scaling though, sad

[marsh river]

i played with mana before, it just made me wait a little, couldnt spam em

[fervent briar]

i think you can probably solve mana a different way and drop a bunch of regen and go block

thats what i would do but i play hc. maybe sc mindset regen is enough. its just not that useful if youre getting hit by a lot of attacks with no avoidance

[marsh river]

the thing with armour is, its the only thing close to warrior

[fervent briar]

ya i know, i ripped 3x on titan going armour. im life/es spell caster now.

with 75 block

[marsh river]

block i can get, 7 poiints will give me max block 50% mitigation

[fervent briar]

Is that some glancing blows tech or something

i would go for the wheel that gives 1% damage per block

if you can block cap with that wheel alone. if not there are 2 points by start you can grab

also make sure you get a shield with high base block

[turbid isle]

its almost here and we can stop speculating

thank you localidentity

https://x.com/Localldentity/status/1880288035532861878

LocalIdentity (@Localldentity) on X

PoB for PoE 2 should be out in the next hour or so
I'm done with all the changes with gems, ran into a few crashes and issues that delayed me by a couple of hours

Need to write up a post on what is included/ still to come and couple other admin things

X · Jan 17, 2025, 4:16 PM

[fervent briar]

hell ya

[turbid isle]

from 3 hours ago so any minute we will have math supported builds

• unless he goes to sleep and drops it tomorrow

[fervent briar]

i would be curious if someone had a metric of downloads per hour when it launches

[marsh river]

@fervent briar yeah a node that doubles block chance

[fervent briar]

I dont think its worth in hc to run it atm since there is no good block recovery mechanic outside of surrender. Unless that is the shield you're using

[snow citrus]

hello does any1 know if mana leech work on spells? Also, does life leech bonus apply to bloodmage that takes the lifeleech for spell ascendency

[turbid isle]

yeah it would be cool if github showed how many downloads happen on any given release

[marsh river]

i mean it caps your block chance, but you get half of the damage on successful block

[turbid isle]

it depends on what the mana leech line is

mana leech from hits? yes

mana leech from attacks? no

[fervent briar]

chayula dude is the only one i know of that is non phys

[marsh river]

im not ever actually actively blocking really

[fervent briar]

ya you just need to make sure you have recovery on block though

[fervent briar]

you dont have to active block as long as the shield is out

[marsh river]

you mean health recovery or mana?

[fervent briar]

health recovery. Surrender is an easy solution if youre using the shield just to get block

[hexed tiger]

Does block come before or after evasion?

[snow citrus]

for example if im a stormweaver and taking the node immortal thirst (25 increased amount of mana leech) would i start leeching mana off of my spells

[fervent briar]

check dreamcores video. i think its after cause you have to be hit when you block

[turbid isle]

also, shadow is set up to be extremly busted itll have access to the monk CI/ES/Phys reduc defense setup

[marsh river]

yeah ill take a look at recovery on block

will give armour another go, atzirs would make me raise int again etc, is just ugly and not neat imo

[fervent briar]

also if you dont mind losing whatever your amulet has defiance of destiny got a big buff

[marsh river]

its like free 2k health tho

[marsh bluff]

Could someone pls advise me on how to build a spellsword?

[merry bone]

a what now?

[turbid isle]

thats not a thing atm

[fervent briar]

i think he is referring to spellblade. idk if its in the game yet

[static thicket]

Bonestorm shotguns doesn't it?

[turbid isle]

yeah

[marsh bluff]

Just a mage who uses melee weapons and magic; I'm not sure what the proper name for such a build is xd

[fervent briar]

there was battlemage and spellblade in poe1. thats templar tech fundamentally

[turbid isle]

oh you probably want to play a monk then thats the closest thing at the moment

until shadow and templar come out at least

[merry bone]

Thats pretty rough to do in the current state of the game just based on ways damage scales and gem availability. Invoker Monk with a Cast on set up could give more of that feel for sure

[turbid isle]

i play a one button invoker with storm wave and triple heralds using the echoing tree

so not really any actual melee i guess, but its cool nonetheless

[tiny plaza]

need a duo, im a curse boot

[turbid isle]

gems + missing the two classes that do it - shadow and templar

[fervent briar]

is someone going to let us know when pob is out, i dont have x

[turbid isle]

i will

[rough hill]

PoB out yet?

[turbid isle]

itll also probably get boosted straight to the top of reddit

[turbid isle]

any minute now

[rough hill]

Npice

Noicr

[turbid isle]

LI1 said 1 hour 3 hours ago

[rough hill]

Noice* lol

[turbid isle]

so unless he goes to sleep its coming out any moment

[marsh bluff]

Does playing as a monk mean I have to use a staff in melee combat?

[turbid isle]

are you new to POE? I want to frame the answer the best way

you dont actually have to use any specific weapon in POE2.

any class can use any weapon.

monk has the easiest access to the quarterstaff tree and the optimal way is to play monk with one equipped

that being said, you can play monk with zero melee skills or only melee skills

i should say optimal way so far

[marsh bluff]

Yes

[turbid isle]

monk is the current hybrid of melee and "magic"

you can play the class with any weapon but quarterstaff is recommended

all of your skills will likely be quarterstaff skills, some are ranged some are melee

in melee range the skills you use depend on your specific build

[marsh bluff]

Why can't I take the enchantress class and use the mace then? xd

[turbid isle]

you can

[marsh river]

is there a difference between gain and recover?

[merry bone]

well - no enchantress class would be the first reason 🙂

[turbid isle]

the only thing stopping you is the fact that enchantress isnt out yet

lol

[merry bone]

yes

[marsh river]

one is over time?

[merry bone]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Recovery

[marsh river]

and what about gain?

[marsh bluff]

oh, I meant Sorceress

[merry bone]

Gain is just Gain - it just happens

[marsh river]

yeah i think its just a diff wording for mana, since you dont need to lose it to gain

[turbid isle]

the real question is "why should i not take X class and use X weapon"

The skill tree incentivizes specific weapons for specific classes by proximity. Meaning if a class is closer to a specific weapon's skill tree nodes its probably best to use that weapon. if your build doesn't take those nodes then youll want to find the best weapon that can hold the affixes you need while also fitting within the attributes of your build

[marsh river]

sasys recover on block for hp and gain for mana

[turbid isle]

@marsh bluff i will say if you are completely brand new you want to start by watching a youtube guide on a build, or something of that sort because idk about the other folks here but it took me about 10 years to actually understand the ins and outs of a build

[fervent briar]

allegedly pob2 is out. i dont have a link though

[turbid isle]

not out yet

im on his git rn

[fervent briar]

the api isnt out yet though so no importing

[turbid isle]

thats the dev build so someone who already had access

[fervent briar]

ruetoo just downloaded it

there is a link in his stream but im not clicking it until i se something that appears legit

[fervent briar]

https://github.com/Wires77/PathOfBuilding/releases/tag/v2.13.0

this is where theyre downloading it at

[turbid isle]

right yeah

[fervent briar]

idk if this was the dev mode you were talking about

[turbid isle]

that is the dev build

its a fork

[fervent briar]

I dont know what that means. Mine always said community fork on poe1 pob

im a blue collar hand. i eat with forks

[turbid isle]

its a fork of the POB github where they have been working on it for months now

my comp is super safe ill dl that and let you know

[fervent briar]

if it existed liek that im surprised it hasnt been used

[turbid isle]

it was made public 2 hours ago

[quartz hamlet]

Could someone explain me how the weight sum works in the trade? I wanna buy some jewels and this are the stats I want on it. But I'm not sure what numbrs to put in those brackets

I understand that the higher the number the more priority or weight, but that's all I know

[alpine summit]

pob2 when

[turbid isle]

thats pretty much the gist of it tbh

[turbid isle]

any minute, supposedly you can dl it already but no post from LI1

[drifting hull]

No importing of characters

[turbid isle]

@alpine summit https://github.com/Wires77/PathOfBuilding/releases/tag/v2.13.0 buyer beware

[alpine summit]

ty

[fervent briar]

ya i said that

[turbid isle]

api not available

it takes 15 minutes to set your character up lol

[fervent briar]

Once api is out and there is a poeninja there will be sooooooooooo many builds exploding out there

[quartz hamlet]

yeah but, I just guess the numbers? is there a good spot or is the same if I put the numbers between 1 and 100 or between 1 and 1000? what's the weighted sum that I should apply? 100, 200, 500?

[fervent briar]

no youtuber/streamer tech will be revealed unless theyre all private

[turbid isle]

most people just use 1-10

weighted sum isn't super important you just sort by the highest sum

so dont set a min

just sort by highest

@fervent briar the link seems to be safe, doesnt check github for updates but they may still have that set to private atm

[hybrid obsidian]

if im CI with 5700 es, i have 1 to all max res and 1 to max lightning, woudl i benefit more from an iron rune or another max res core?

[turbid isle]

this is hard to know without your skill tree and what not but more max res is probably going to reduce damage more than 56 more es on your helm is my guess

now that you can actually resocket runes, why not try both to see the overall impact on stats?

[hybrid obsidian]

im playing spark , i assume the max res woudl be a bit more useful, because i havnt ev en started mapping yet ijust finished the campaign finally, i am 1 node from i can take it at any level but not sure if i even should or if that changes anything

[hybrid obsidian]

i had no idea you can resocket ?

[lone ravine]

I keep seeing elons build everywhere. Is it that good or was he just juiced with the OP staff ? Invoker right ?

[turbid isle]

lets say you can already survive a hit thats about 5k damage right, how much more will ES benefit you vs your increased res?

1% of a 6k hit can reduce an extra 60 damage, the extra 56 ES can become about 60+ with this node. its very close

[undone peak]

illuminated crown probably does nothing if you're EB though lol

[turbid isle]

id say the res is better than the shield though

[undone peak]

and dont u want to be EB

[hybrid obsidian]

what is EB?

[turbid isle]

eldritch battery

[undone peak]

eldritch battery, a popular choice for spark builds that use everlasting gaze

which is most spark builds since the other versions involve insane gear

[hybrid obsidian]

ah ya that would be cool not sure how eb works with ci?

[undone peak]

it works through everlasting gaze amulet

all your ES comes from everlasting gaze

[hybrid obsidian]

im looking at it now, it seems to just give tons of mana and es? but if i use eb then i have no es? how do i use it as mana and health?

kinda stuckw ith the gear i have now for a while sinc ei just spent all my dough

[undone peak]

ES from everlasting gaze occurs after EB

[fervent briar]

the conversions happen in a different order in poe2 so it works just put it on

[undone peak]

basically, people take MoM, CI, and EB, then they put on everlasting gaze and now their base ES is 30% of their maximum mana. then then take increased ES sources on passive tree to boost that ES amount.

you end up 5k+ ES and 4k+ mana which is roughly 9k "hit points"

[hybrid obsidian]

holy shit

[undone peak]

and you want ES base types for your gear with good increased ES prefixes

since the ES amounts on your gear get converted to mana

[hybrid obsidian]

well wish i knew that lol

[undone peak]

so like a 900 ES body armour is just 900 more mana and then that mana would get increased by sources of increased maximum mana

[hybrid obsidian]

guess i have to aim for that after now, i have onoyu even done 1 map

[marsh river]

is there a way to set skill to be cast on weapon set 1 so it would automatically swap to it when executed?

from set 2

[worldly harbor]

theres a checkmark on every skill in 'G'

[marsh river]

i dragged it to set 1, but it changed it back to 2 when i switched 2

[undone peak]

make your main skill only weapon set 2

so you'll go back to weapon set 2 when u cast ur main skill

[marsh river]

i tried with raise shield but when you swap back again from shield, itll still try to cast totem with shield

eventho it was previously set up on set 1, it then tries to do it on set 2

so im guesisng i need to manually change back to 1?

[undone peak]

so turn off the totem from the weapon set u dont it to use

do u see what i mean?

[marsh river]

hold on

[undone peak]

Skill A only has Weapon Set 1 checked. Skill B only has Weapon Set 2 checked.

[carmine flicker]

wait. 900 ES body exist
and it's SO CHEAP(compared to smth insane like that in POE1)

wow
I really need to look more

[marsh river]

how do i change it, the I and II are nto clickable

[undone peak]

are you on controller

[marsh river]

no

[undone peak]

You're going to have to give us the full information about what weapon types you're using in each weapon set and which skills you're trying to use in each

It sounds like you have a shield in one of your weapon sets, but not another

And you're trying to raise shield with the shield setup

And then trying to switch back to the non-shield setup to use a totem

[inner hollow]

Why does it feels like stormweaver spark and ice/lightning invoker are the only builds out there

[marsh river]

two onehanded maaces for casting totem, swapped to shield and empty hand atm after

theen trying to hit totem skill on set 1 again, but it wont go back to 1

even if i drag it from set one to hotbar

[undone peak]

Totem requires martial weapon (eh nvm it can also use unarmed)

[marsh river]

i have em

they 2x in set one

set 2 is only for shield

[trim moss]

hey yall, apologies if this isn't the right channel for this but anyone have anyone have any fun builds for a fresh hardcore trade experience? Pref for melee/close range builds.

[marsh river]

and whateveer stat stick i put there

[undone peak]

So you're trying to cast a totem with the two 1H weapon setup and then go back to your unarmed + shield setup

[marsh river]

yeah, i kinda figure dit out, if ii hit mace attack after changing to shield, itll revert back to set one

[undone peak]

I guess I still don't really understand what you're having an issue with

[marsh river]

so totems, then hit raise shield, when need new totems, click mace attack, cast totems

[undone peak]

You just make the skills you want to cast with weapon set 1 only checked to weapon set 1

and the skills you want to cast with weapon set 2 only checked to weapon set 2

if this does not work then i dont know what is going wrong

[marsh river]

i thought you can skip mace attack to go back set 1

simply by directly casting totems WITH set 1

[undone peak]

If a skill is checked to only be used with weapon set 1 then the game will switch to weapon set 1 prior to using it

[marsh river]

what you mean "only checked" checked what where

[undone peak]

bruh

one sec

i will screenshot

do you know about these checkboxes mate

in each skill's detailed UI pane u can set these checkboxes

[marsh river]

rofl i forgot those down in that window

i see em now

[undone peak]

son of a gun...

i thought u knew from this comment

[marsh river]

i knew there is suppose to be way to define what sets used for skill, but for some reason i thought it was done by clicking main window I and II

now lelts hope i develope a habbit to actually swap back to shield

[undone peak]

u dont have to

just make the skills that want to be used with shield only check the shield weapon set

[marsh river]

yeah the problem is im not using any

i cast totems and run around with shield like headless chicken

i could cast shield wall or smth i suppose but i cant reallly think of a skill i actually want to cast

[fiery wave]

are price sjust booming?

i bought a jewel for 32 yesterday and today i got spammed logging in, lowest price was 38

i told them its 37 the first guy bought it right away

[marsh river]

i will probably do away with whole swapping idea, the problem is totems dont come out all at once neatly, you chain em, which means you still dont have thhe shield on you half time

[fiery wave]

maybe the 38s were price fixed

[undone peak]

im guessing you're using two 1H weapons in order to get +6 melee skills or w/e

[marsh river]

not sure how much chill time with all totoems up and behind shield there will be

atm yea

[undone peak]

so you lose +3 weapon skills if you go to 1H+shield all the time

[marsh river]

i had giants blood, but dont atm have any good 2hander anyway

[undone peak]

seems good...?

[marsh river]

yeah i can live with that if i have to

those 3-4 levels are huge tho

[undone peak]

i mean realistically dont u just want 2 divine orbs so u can get howa?

then ur damage is insane

since ur gemling

[pearl sluice]

hi is tempest flurry a hit damage in poe 2 ?

[marsh river]

howa is completely different build tho, i dont have evasion and dex

[undone peak]

yes

[pearl sluice]

hi was your reply for my question

[undone peak]

yeah

[pearl sluice]

i searched online and it said tempest flurry is damage over time

[undone peak]

huh

[pearl sluice]

and am very confused

[turbid isle]

@fervent briar https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/releases

official release

fwiw the version number is identical

[fervent briar]

still no api release i take it

[tidal copper]

ITS HERE PRAISE THE LOCAL IDENTITY

[turbid isle]

no because thats GGG sided

[fervent briar]

Hell ya, well thanks for the heads up.

[turbid isle]

np time to actually minmax and find the real busted shit that no one has seen yet

happy hunting folks

poe is a MATH game

[zealous grail]

Hey, if this ring I crafted any better than my other rings? not sure if it is better to just keep crafting it with further, or sell it (almost 10 ex)

[turbid isle]

do you use cold damage at all?

[zealous grail]

not that much, mostly lightning

Probably better just sell it

[turbid isle]

yes

its not good for you at all

youll be undercapped on lightning and have to find something else and you dont use cold damage

[zealous grail]

Yeah... thank you!

[static plinth]

How do you allocate weapon set points in PoB?

[hexed silo]

Does this Passive node give Electricution the same effect as Shock? Or is it just for a single hit ?

[merry bone]

its while they have electrocute on them

[gloomy basalt]

How do you allocate the Weapon set passives in PoB2?

[turbid isle]

can someone confirm that PoB2 does not account for level 1

[thorny token]

wym

[turbid isle]

skill tree wise

no skill point granted at level 1

but i put my skill tree in and it says level 89 monk

this character is level 90

[thorny token]

well at level 1 you get no skill point and pob2 do not accounts for that either

[turbid isle]

im just asking so I can let LI1 or someone know, pob for poe1 does not have this issue

each level accounts for minor stat adjustments as well so it is not insignificant

[thorny token]

its possible that the quest rewards are scuffed but it looked correct to me

[fickle latch]

is there a way to import a maxroll building into pob2

[turbid isle]

i am only talking about the manual vs automatic level

[thorny token]

nope

[turbid isle]

for it to be accurate i believe you need to +1 to your level every time

quest rewards seem to work fine, yes

[merry bone]

probably a good idea to join their discord and report it

[turbid isle]

LI1 has a discord?

lol ive been following for years now

please dm invite

[dull forge]

in path of blade how do i set weapon set point?

[merry bone]

https://pathofbuilding.community/ Uses a github intake - probably to avoid having to answer repeat questions all day long

[thorny token]

just open issue on github

but it looks fine to me at least

[stoic oriole]

what do the colors signify?

[livid dagger]

why my minion got triple size like this??

[turbid isle]

check again your level vs your level there, if pob says you are level 95 is your character level 95? i put my skill tree point for point and am level 89 on POB

level 90 in poe2

on this character

[faint tree]

I was just doing my thing

[turbid isle]

cant zoom out far eenough in game obviously but no node is missing

[merry bone]

so open a github report

[turbid isle]

brother

the process is

find issue > confirm issue > report issue

that is what i am trying to do

[merry bone]

you confirmed the issue did you not?

[thorny token]

hmm yea, 89 + 24 is 113, not 112

[turbid isle]

no one else has said that they have the same issue therefore it is not confirmed

[thin briar]

Is there a friendly Ice Monk willing to take a look at my stuff and help me decide on next steps in terms of gear?

[turbid isle]

ty

[thorny token]

oh wait no it should be 89 - 1 + 24

so the auto level on that tree looks correct

[turbid isle]

it is incorrect because it does not reflect your current level right?

[thorny token]

well lvl 89 character gets 88 points + 24 skill points

[turbid isle]

pob should not reflect level 89 for a level 90 character

regardless

[forest mantle]

Anyone have a build for infernalist demon form with 10 max demon flame stacks for me?

[thorny token]

you have 88 points + 24 skill points allocated

[turbid isle]

that is not important

the amount is correct

the level is incorrect

[viral crag]

So, blasphemy+curse+hexbloom
If an enemy dies within your aura, do they then spread actual applied curses to things beyond your reach?

[turbid isle]

again, the amount is correct but the level is incorrect

if you press +1 or -1 your stats will change because of implicit stats

[thorny token]

but the level matches the allocated points perfectly

is what im saying

[turbid isle]

again

the points yes

but the implicit stats per level is incorrect

or not matching

[dire crescent]

is it possible to make a strong witch hunter merc with a energy shield build?

my entire build is based around amour and evasion.

[turbid isle]

its either visual (lesss important) or actual (more important)

[merry bone]

You get can 99 Skill Points +24 from campaign. Thats 123. You have 112 - that means you are 11 points off from level 100, which means you are level 89.

[turbid isle]

both are important for the goal of POB, to find accurate data on your character

[turbid isle]

my character is not level 89

[merry bone]

then you are missing a point

[thorny token]

yea

[turbid isle]

no I am not, that is not possible

[merry bone]

The tree you shared - has 112/123 points allocated. If you have 112 points - then you are level 89

[thorny token]

can you screenshot in game tree then?

just to double check

[merry bone]

So you EITHER have 113 points - and you missed one. Or you arent level 90

[turbid isle]

you guys are suggesting that the pob level is the correct level, lets suggest that the poe2 reflected level is correct instead

[merry bone]

then you should have 113 Skill points - not 112 - and you only allocated 112 in POB

[thorny token]

well im saying that the points you have allocated on tree are matching the level displayed in pob

so either the points counter is wrong

or you forgot to allocate a point somewhere

[thorny token]

or you missed a point on your char

[turbid isle]

the points i have allocated match the points available on pob

but no character starts at level 0

therefore pob is missing a character level

[thorny token]

you dont get 1 passive point at level 1

[turbid isle]

how many do you get?

[thorny token]

0

[turbid isle]

exactly

[thorny token]

you get first one at level 2

[turbid isle]

thats what im saying

it is not accounting for that exact thing

[thorny token]

pob accounts for that

[sage token]

can anyone explain why when i swap weapons between different energy shield levels (1200 vs 6500 for example), my energy shield goes down to the lower level at 1200 but doesn't go back up to higher level at 6500 when i swap back...i watched a video guide & his goes back no problem

[turbid isle]

here ill show a simple example

[viral crag]

If you think it's not, this is simple to prove. Allocate a single point, then show the character level.

[hybrid obsidian]

can anyoen tell me what elemtnal discharge does? im not seeing an explanation on the googles or in the tooltip

[merry bone]

You didnt allocate CI in POB

\

[thorny token]

problem solved :d

[merry bone]

how many times did we have to say you missed a point before you looked?

[turbid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/gravewalker-nunca-morto-cachorro-estranho-chocado-gif-13491460544291964900

again this is why i said

process is

find issue > confirm issue > report

didnt want to report first if im just DUMB

lol

[merry bone]

You literally said you confirmed it more than once.....

[turbid isle]

then came here to confirm again

thats the process

ty for finding that

i appreciate it

[merry bone]

..... Not possible bois

[rough hill]

Pob out yet? Been at work so haven't gotten to check around much.

[hybrid obsidian]

can someone teoll me what elemtnal discharge does i dont see it in tooltip

[turbid isle]

contextual screenshots when i said i came here to confirm if i am wrong or not

np

[thorny token]

yea its out

[turbid isle]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/releases

[rough hill]

Ooo. Do you have a link? Haven't seen anything on reddit about it.

[viral crag]

Honestly we should pin a link in this channel

[merry bone]

i included the context.

[static plinth]

Well my damage sucks but hey thats not that bad

[turbid isle]

people will still ask and it will update, not worth the pin

[static plinth]

You cant get max chaos from jewels right

[turbid isle]

you seem more mad that i came here to confirm and misspoke rather than anything else, is that your problem? i already admitted im wrong

[viral crag]

We pin the releases page* so the updates don't matter, and "People will still ask" has not been a good enough excuse to stop every pin ever 😒

[turbid isle]

then ping a mod to pin it

idc at all

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/releases

[thorny token]

there is all server mention in #other-news

even

[viral crag]

Cared enough to argue about it 😅

[turbid isle]

no argument at all, pin it or dont i dont give a fuck

i follow li1 on twitter lol

[thin basin]

cant import rn?

[static talon]

Has anyone figured out how to allocate weapon 1 and weapon 2 points in POB?

[ornate bane]

anyone know how to get archmage damage to work?

[turbid isle]

for those asking about weapon set swaps as well

it is not supported atm

[static talon]

Thanks for letting me know

[rapid knot]

how do i set wep set 1 and 2 in PoB?

[turbid isle]

look up, its not supported rn

[rapid knot]

aight

[static talon]

PoE2 Passive Skill Tree and support for "most" Ascendancies (including Weapon Set Skill Points) are you sure?
cuz it says what is in initial release is most ascendancies and weapon set skill points

[thorny token]

actually weapon set allocating should be possible

hold alt and scroll mouse wheel

[turbid isle]

i only posted a screenshot of what is on the exact release page

[thorny token]

idk if it actually works properly but it does something

[rapid knot]

works thanks

[ornate bane]

no archmage support right now is big sad

[turbid isle]

i suppose if thats possible then language could be improved to represent that it supports swapping weapons but not the damage accounted for when acutally swapping

[static talon]

how did you get that to allocate?

[thorny token]

the swapping mention is mostly for stuff like skills in wep swap not getting bonuses from wep swap i think

[turbid isle]

right

[rapid knot]

i mean its not like its an often played build 👀

[turbid isle]

i think so too

[thorny token]

hold alt and mouse scroll

[robust radish]

for some reason my Pob skill tree says lvl 89 but im lvl 91...

did i miss 2 points in campaign? NO SHOT

i triple checked everything

[static talon]

amazing thanks!

[robust radish]

or pob just thinks u have 2 extra points

[dawn spire]

If you have 24 weapon set points you're good

[thorny token]

how many wep points do you see in game ?

yea should be 24

[robust radish]

oh no no no

[thorny token]

missed 2

rippers

[dawn spire]

Yes shot

[thorny dagger]

Lmao dud

[gray patrol]

Ripppp

[ornate bane]

missed 2 LMAO

[robust radish]

i miss /passives

[dawn spire]

Mods, pin it

[ornate bane]

should say 24

you missed 2

[gray patrol]

My bet is the act 2 dead body

Or act 5

[thorny token]

i missed snake lady

took me like lvl 80 till i noticed on my first char :d

[robust radish]

i legit 5x checked my map when leveling

clearing every single skull

even the ones without passives

cause im ocd

NO SHOT I MISSED 2

[turbid isle]

wow it is possible to get a ele damage with attack mod from corrupting a quarterstaff?

thats big work

[gray patrol]

OCD failed you lmao

[ornate bane]

get better OCD

[lilac shale]

hmm does archmage work in POB? I cant seem to find it

[gray patrol]

OCD+

[dawn spire]

Did you check underground?

[ornate bane]

archmage is red so not working in calc

[robust radish]

is it this maybe

whats this

[thorny token]

nop

[gray patrol]

Not points

[ornate bane]

no

[gray patrol]

That’s flask or charm upgrade

[ornate bane]

youre looking for a Skull with a +

[thorny token]

look in a2 on the city as well whats its name

there is 1 thats hard to see

[rough hill]

I assume I can't use pob on mobile?

[gray patrol]

Or a + in general

[thorny token]

either a2 or a4 idr which one has so shitty position

also check underground

[turbid isle]

one notable is that POB doesnt have an accurate range for + to + attack mods atm

each one ive checked is wrong

[gray patrol]

Did you deliver both letters to the blind lady on the caravan?

[robust radish]

what does that mean exactly

if u copy paste the range it ends up wrong?

[turbid isle]

no just means their own slider is not representative of the range poe2 actually has

[robust radish]

zzz

this i bet

[gray patrol]

I’m so good

Lmao

[turbid isle]

so while your weapon might say "+20 to +39" pob might say "+20 to +31"

only one can be right

[thorny dagger]

Yes

I have 29phys and 55 accuracy

But pob makes it 58accuracy

[robust radish]

hmm

[turbid isle]

this is a siple dataset problem that will likely be fixed

[thorny dagger]

Also im new to pob in general. How can i add support gems for my main skill?

[turbid isle]

for using pob now id suggest focusing on the lower range than the higherrange - if youre talking about X to X mods

[thorny token]

click in empty box under skill

[turbid isle]

when you add a skill gem itll create a group that you can add supp gems to

[robust radish]

at least looking my items the stats seem accurate to what is ingame, or do you mean in the dps calc the range is off?

[thorny dagger]

Oh okay many thanks

[thin basin]

ncie to share build but dps stuff aint working correctly

[thorny dagger]

Have you treid the ctrl c ctrl v?

Or it's also slightly inaacurate

[thorny token]

bunch of stuff should be relatively accurate, whats not working

[turbid isle]

sorry what does that mean? pasting from some file?

[thin basin]

50% shock cap? i have it 100

14k dps btw

[fervent briar]

i have to say, the attribute thing makes poe2 pob anooooooooying

[dawn spire]

In-game you do 100% shocks?

[thin basin]

yea

[turbid isle]

gotta use the hotkey or else its bad yes

[fervent briar]

Well it will take some getting used to

[thorny dagger]

In game. Ctrl c on your weapon, then ctrl v into pob

[thorny token]

ah thats just unsupported

[thorny token]

non-damaging ailments do not rly work properly

[robust radish]

if you ctrl + c an item ingame you can paste it in

[dawn spire]

Lightning conduit can't shock, though, can it?

[thorny token]

i believe it was mentioned in release notes too

[thin basin]

im shocking w something else

[turbid isle]

that worked perfectly ty

[fervent briar]

i thought the notes said they fixed ailment calculation

[thorny token]

for damaging ailments

[dawn spire]

What does it say on the skill you're shocking with?

[fervent briar]

ahh

[thorny token]

(i did that one :d)

[fervent briar]

my reading comprehension is awful. Im a skimmer

[thin basin]

it shouldnt matter since i manual set shock to be at 100%

[jagged spoke]

anyone able to copy and paste gems?

[ornate bane]

yeah

[robust radish]

yes

[plucky fern]

Just checking in on the theory nerds have you discovered the best skills for me to use yet? It's been several minutes i'm still waiting.........

[thorny token]

well all non-damaging ailments still have poe1 logic

[dawn spire]

That value at the bottom just shows what shock that skill can apply

[thorny token]

which means its capped at old value

[jagged spoke]

how

[dawn spire]

Ah

[robust radish]

for any item you copy paste you have to pick up the item out of ur tree/equipment and put it in inventory

and then ctrl + c it

what i havent figured out is my tooltip DPS for lightning arrow in pob is 39k, but ingame its 29k

something is fucky

that seems like a pretty simple skill to calc

[dawn spire]

Is pob using shock?

[thorny token]

conditionals

[dawn spire]

Or maybe some other conditional

[thorny token]

game do not rly supports them

also idk what res game uses by default

[jagged spoke]

where are you pasting it into on the PoB client

[robust radish]

nah all settings are off for conditionals, no boss, no shock, no tailwind etc

[thorny token]

for calculating tooltip

[supple obsidian]

Are the numbers given out by pob based on simulations or just math/formulas/models? Is there a timeline/queue in the tool?

[robust radish]

math

its not a sim

[thorny token]

but in game tooltip is generally useless for everything

[robust radish]

for simple skills its quite good

[turbid isle]

so skills like elemental expression cannot contain a socket group for now?

[dawn spire]

We actually have no way of knowing this tho This is hard to verify

[thin basin]

archmage also isnt working btw

[turbid isle]

class granted skills

[jagged spoke]

for skill gems?

[thorny token]

yea, red text = unsupported

theres issue open for that

[thin basin]

😭

[robust radish]

skill gems u cant copy paste

just by hand

[thorny token]

just play poison build they should work rly well in pob ez

[thin basin]

70% of the players wont know their true dps, so sad 😔

[thorny token]

or deadeye xd

[robust radish]

i think this means u can copy paste gems around IN POB

but afaik you cant copy out a whole socket group from ingame

[thorny token]

yea

[robust radish]

just do it by hand takes 3 min

[thorny dagger]

Mark in interview said that tooltip is dead feature, that all the players will hate it

[robust radish]

in poe1 for simple skills pob == ingame dmg

if u turn off conditionals

i would expect same in pob

[spring prairie]

does quality matter for spark? what's the minimum quality to get 4 extra projectiles?

[jagged spoke]

anyone figure out how to import items from trade store?

[thorny token]

its useful for clear but does pretty much nothing for your single target

[robust radish]

ctrl + c same way

[dense surge]

i wonder(doesnt even run)

[carmine flicker]

show pob creator preference

[thorny token]

deadeye best ascendancy

[hybrid ocean]

Will having multiple copies of blink active give you multiple uses of the cooldown?

[robust radish]

poe 1 trade website has copy button

poe 2 trade website does not

[hybrid ocean]

Just tested, just can't :(

[robust radish]

i think u will need a 3rd party chrome extension or AHK script to copy items from the trade website since it seems not implemented for poe 2 yet

[turbid isle]

the node power toggle doesnt work yet?

[fiery wave]

this is the third time i die to this shit

[hybrid ocean]

Swapping weapon sets also does not mork

[robust radish]

hahaha

if i direct whisper ingame

someone

i can ctrl + c the whisper

into POB

people are gonna HATE ME

[thorny token]

lmao

[robust radish]

this one

so that means the data is on the site, someone just needs to write a chrome extension/greasemonkey script/ahk script so we can copy it without whispering

[obsidian flint]

the 20% dmg from corpse being red means pob doesn't support it yet right?

[rapid knot]

is there any way to enable + to level of all lightning skills in pob? in only calcs the +3 from my amu but not from wand

[thorny token]

correct

[thorny token]

you can copy the wording from amulet and add it to custom mods

[obsidian flint]

alright thanks

[thorny token]

i assume its slighgtly different from weapon so it doesnt work

[graceful summit]

any one want to recommend a fun build to me, was playing ice strike monk but kind of getting a little bored and cant figure out what to play

[pale cloak]

can someone link download to pob? github page seems to be down

[fervent briar]

frost bomb titan

[thorny token]

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding-PoE2/releases

jsut have to go to the releases page directly

[turbid isle]

im up 15k dps easy with pob

[thorny token]

as github is taking its sweet ass time

[turbid isle]

thank you local identity

[alpine summit]

when can we expect for the api to be ready?

[pale cloak]

ty

[turbid isle]

GGG decision, no clue

[soft lake]

Does POB2 support allocating weapon swap passives yet? I can see the 0/24 for them both at the top, but I can't figure out how to actually allocate them

[thorny token]

alt + scroll wheel

not rly explained anywhere :d

[soft lake]

That is not something I would have guessed, haha

Thank you

[turbid isle]

it supports the different trees but not the damage boost or any modifiers from actually swapping

[thorny token]

yea i just went to the pull request for that one before

lul

[turbid isle]

keep that in mind

[soft lake]

Yeah, that's alright, it's more just for being able to visualise it all properly

[fierce atlas]

so i have 130 spirit and my skeletal arsonists still wont spawn. any ideas?

[light island]

POB2 question, does anyone know howtouse weapon set points on the pob skill tree?

[woven smelt]

deosnt' look to be calculating archmage dmg hmm

[smoky sable]

alt + scroll wheel

[devout valve]

1 or 2?

[robust radish]

hmm is there a way to get dps stat weights for stats out of PoB without manually doing an excel calc

iirc there was something like that for poe1

[turbid isle]

1 is far better because of the res

10% res > 1000 ehp

[ornate bane]

so for archmage you can do mana/100=x and x*0.09 = %increase

this adds to my calc

[woven smelt]

I'll try that, thanks

[devout valve]

even with the chaos damage being low the higher block too?

[turbid isle]

the difference in ehp and overall res makes it so that 1 is better than 2

[devout valve]

thank you

trying to figure out how i can make that chaos res higher

[turbid isle]

you never want to be uncapped on the res that are easily cappable

[devout valve]

i dont have alot of wiggle room

[turbid isle]

soul cores and mods

thats it

thats all

[devout valve]

would have to get rid of some energy shield

[turbid isle]

thats better than getting rid of other res

alternatively

[devout valve]

i get around 15k atm with grim

[turbid isle]

if youre playing a toon that can hit CI

sacrifice damage for CI and drop all chaos res

[woven smelt]

how much mana are you at?

[devout valve]

playing frost mage minion

[thorny token]

CI op, im CI even on my deadeye

[turbid isle]

then you can probbaly sacrifice damge nodes for CI and end up with simlar damage on jewellry mods

lol

im CI on monk

[thorny token]

why bother with shitty life in this game until ES is nerfed

[turbid isle]

take ci and drop that chaos res

[soft lake]

Did you end up going full ES, or are you hybrid ES/EVA?

[thorny token]

ES/eva

CI + acro

[turbid isle]

exactly why im CI

why not is the best point

[soft lake]

What kinda ES numbers are you getting with hybrid?

[thorny token]

also finally can show pob screenshot for my theorycrafted plasma blast

[turbid isle]

5k

but im tribrid

85% ev/ 75% phys reduc/ 4700 ES

monk

[ornate bane]

4386 with lvl 19 archmage

[thorny token]

well my current gear is shit so 2k but eventually 4k-ish

bear in mind that 2k CI build is still tankier than 2k life 2k es hybrid lul

[turbid isle]

monk is busted for layers, you have enough of everything to not die to one thing

[soft lake]

Is it calculating properly for you? Seems like it thinks the explosion gives more poison damage than the projectile

[ornate bane]

doesnt look like calc is adding +skills from items aswell

[woven smelt]

ahh ok, just basically making sure my math was ok haha. I'm at like 6k

It's adding my + skills from ammy, but not wand

[thorny token]

it is calculating properly for me yea. you need to set poisons on enemy override tho

[soft lake]

Ah, I'm on a Pathfinder so the phys reduction isn't really an option for me

[thorny token]

explosion probs has more aps

[ornate bane]

yeah not adding my wand or focus

[thorny token]

or something

[soft lake]

About similar to me then, although I'm still life at the moment. Considering going CI, though

[turbid isle]

thats just luck of the draw, monk is insanely OP when it comes to defense especially with the new patch

a monk built like mine can only die to skill issues

[thorny token]

also explo shot with fork is nuts btw

for clear

switched to it from galvanicon my deadeye poison

[shut jungle]

is there a trick to utilizing weapon skill points in the new PoB? can't find any options to allocate properly

[turbid isle]

monk is the only class that can have 85% ev, 75% phys reduc, and 5k ES atm

[thorny token]

[ornate bane]

still trying to see what im missing on spark cause im at 74k tooltip in game

[soft lake]

I've just been wearing the corpse boots, although I hate the slow movement speed. I struggled to get enough poison chance on Explosive Shot when I tried it

[turbid isle]

with my current class POB estimates my eHP at 13k and i only play softcore rn ill never die and if i do it wont matter

[thorny token]

they buffed the gloves so should be ez now

[modest frigate]

what's the best way for monk to get power charges in endgame? Siphoning strike feels so clunky

[thorny token]

also im just getting rests of my poison chance from jewels

[soft lake]

True, I need to buy a new pair

[turbid isle]

the only way i die is by a phys or random hit for 15k

[thorny token]

did not rly struggled with it before either

the jewels are so cheap too

[spare mica]

anyone know how to assign a skill to a spcecific weapon set in pob? like what is the actual click/key you need to use?

[thorny token]

like 5ex jewel or some shit

[soft lake]

Well Galvanic has felt fine on like 60% poison chance or whatever it's at. It hits so much that it doesn't matter if one single hit doesn't poison. Whereas Explosive Shot was feeling a little inconsistent

Oh damn, that's a nice jewel

[turbid isle]

@thorny token youve been answering a lot of questions but it seems that pob doesnt account for ghost dance or wind dancer atm, is that true?

[soft lake]

Yeah, I'll need to buy some jewels like that

[thorny token]

that is true

i just have 80% more evasion rating in custom mods

[fiery wave]

almost 40% of my damage is from this ring

[thorny token]

as workaround atm

[crystal totem]

Anyone know how shock interacts with magnitude of shock passive nodes in POB? Adding magnitude of shock nodes isn't bumping up dps and I have the box checked.

[fiery wave]

kinda surprising to me

[turbid isle]

makes sense because of the multiplicative stacks i imagine

[thorny token]

well noone just implemnted it really :d

but its otherwise pretty easy

[turbid isle]

well its multiplicative against the stacks themselves

[thorny token]

nah they are additive with eachoher

the stacks

[turbid isle]

maybe takes a 5 houts to code

oh additive

okay

but not additive plus multiplicative with the mods on items?

[thorny token]

yea stage stuff on gems is basically alwalys additive with itself

then it multiplies with rest of stuff

[turbid isle]

i guess mods multi with everything else

yeah

ty for insight

[thorny token]

non-damaging ailments arent rly implemented correctly atm

[turbid isle]

so how do you manually account like you said? @thorny token

sorry to spam btw

[robust radish]

does this mean invoker dps not accurate

[thorny token]

80% more evasion rating

i have this in custom mods

like so

[turbid isle]

is that in calcs or config ive never used custom mods because of import

[soft lake]

^ In the configuration tab

[turbid isle]

ty loobknoob

[soft lake]

You can also label things, I like to use // for comments like this:

[thorny token]

well you can multiply tempest bell dps by how many times you are hitting it per second

but otherwise yea

[hybrid obsidian]

hey im a trial , and modifier enemies cannot be speed modified below base but i just froze someone? does this not work liek in poe, i cant slow but i still can freeze?

[soft lake]

If it's in red, it means it's not working/doing anything, if it's blue then it means POB is accounting for it

[turbid isle]

should specifiy that its only inaccurate if you dont account for ailments and the bell itself, i got very close using ailment configs buut i dont use bell at all and was still 3k off

[turbid isle]

ty

[thorny token]

idk if holding alt on it works in release version or not but probs not but can also do this :d

[soft lake]

Adding // to the start of a line will stop POB recognising it, even if it would otherwise be valid, so it's good for testing things without having to delete the whole line

[soft lake]

Nah, it doesn't do that in release version

Although it would be handy

[thorny token]

rip

[turbid isle]

quick question why do you have some of the extra lines? what is giving 900+ all res and the other things that arent supported

[thorny token]

yea its very useful to double cehck if you inputted wordings correctly

[turbid isle]

ty for context

[thorny token]

just planned pob, lazy to input reses on gear. the wither effect is weapon swap, the 31% more and 15% more is emergency reload

[turbid isle]

okay, it sounds like my build has nothing to do with any of this. ty

[timid smelt]

Anyone know how to add weaponset passives on pob?

[thorny token]

alt + scroll

[turbid isle]

also its pretty clear to me that youre not LI1 but youre project related right?? what do you do on the project? @thorny token

[devout valve]

how does it look?

frost mage minions

[indigo valley]

is there a way to see how much shock chance you have in pob ? i don't see it in calcs

[soft lake]

He's actually responsible for adding that custom modifier box!

[thorny token]

just contributor, was doing damaging ailments, damage coversion and deadeye support mostly for this release

also yea :d

bunch of pob1 stuff

[strong lion]

im following a guide, do these pink and green lines mean anything?

[soft lake]

Weapon swap passives

[turbid isle]

nice to meet you and im glad youve answered some of my tech questions while no one else was here. i appreciate the effort as a long time follower

[strong lion]

oh thank you

[ashen copper]

how come herald of thunder doesn't show DPS in Path of Building 2?

[thorny dagger]

Combat frenzy spirit skill + resonanse keystone passive

[turbid isle]

i played poe1 for 10 years so it just worked and i had no idea who you were you to be 100% honest

but thank you for today

[robust radish]

ye im trying to compare my pob to poe2 tooltips and its def a bit off, check out atkspeed of 2.88 in pob but 2.94 in game

[flat kernel]

Is Bleed correct on PoB2 atm?

[robust radish]

i can see hit dmg being off by config or passive tree nodes that dont apply to ingame tooltip but atkspeed should be the same

[thorny token]

it should be

[wicked dock]

anyone know how to allocate weapon sets in POB2?

[thorny token]

yea i mean theres like 300 total contributors on pob atm so no reason to know anyway really :d

and all i contribute is anywya just stuff i need for my builds to show dps correctly lmao

its no coincidence i was adding deadeye and poison stuff while playing poison deadeye

[turbid isle]

A real coder right here gents

“I had a problem and I knew math would fix it so I gave them the math to add to their math”

I get it

[robust radish]

seems like ice bite is always on btw despite not having set killed recently or frozen/chilled on config

innervate is not for conparison

[ashen copper]

what is considered "good dps? ?

[turbid isle]

Do you clear T15 without thinking

[robust radish]

imo u should be able to kill t4 trial of sekhema boss in like <10 sec

[ornate bane]

looks like ammy and ring quality isnt being added either

[ashen copper]

i can clear T15 with mild thinking if it has the right modifiers (ones I find easy)

[turbid isle]

Nah he said good dos not good boss dps

Assume he isn’t playing spark

[turbid isle]

Then you probably have like 20k dps right

You should be able to one shot packs and maybe take at most 30 seconds on a boss

[ashen copper]

the in game tooltip says 20k, in my path of building, with all the right circumstances, it says it gets up to 100k

[turbid isle]

That’s good dps

[robust radish]

for maps its pretty easy anyone runs herald of ice and it just 1shot clears no matter ur build

so imo boss dps only what matters

[pale cloak]

is there a way to check freeze buildup on pob?

[faint tree]

seems like spark is not going up in lvl when you put +4 or +5 lightning spell line

[flat kernel]

Oh nvm, it's Deep Cuts Support that isn't working, I think? It should be affecting the magnitude effect there right? Putting it on or custom -25% dmg with hits is the same result in damage.

[fickle latch]

question i filling out my pob2 to see my stats what sould i put as chill and shock affect stacks?

[turbid isle]

Well my build one shots any pack but tickles bosses the difference is that idc that a boss takes a while for the trade off, I’m basically invincible defense wise and never have to deal with dying

Which is so much more important with 1 portal…

[ashen copper]

ya more or less one tap packs once i have all my buffs and everything going. and yeah no more than 30 seconds for most map bosses. i wish i could share my PoB2 with you idk how

[turbid isle]

import/export build top left allows the code still iirc

[hardy arch]

Hi guys, i'm trying to build one demonform infernalist but is it normal that the damage i take form my demonform is directly applied to health bypassing my ES?

[ashen copper]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/i75t0oqu @turbid isle

[fickle latch]

how can i find out my affect of shock or chill

[ashen copper]

didn't put all the skills in it but, i mainly use storm wave on mobs

[fickle latch]

effect

[soft lake]

You don't take damage, you lose life - there's a difference

[marble geyser]

pob is showing my level as 2 lower than it actually is. 90 vs 92. That should mean I missed a +2 passive somewhere but I've definitely triple checked all of them too. 😡

[thorny token]

hmm, same mod was def working with poison at least, can you export pob so i can check?

[shut jungle]

anyone figure out weapon set skill point allocation on POB yet?

[thorny token]

alt + scroll

[mellow shell]

My Maxroll planner and POB have 3 points of difference

[ornate bane]

well im only off (+2k) from in game tooltip on spark so not bad i guess just had to add custom modifier for archmage

[marble geyser]

I think that means you (and me) missed something

[dapper cloud]

were you able to figure it out? I'm still trying to find wep set 1 vs 2 modifiers

EDIT: Alt + Scroll as listed above

[rapid knot]

idk how you got it working, it doesnt for me somehow

also my chiming staff shows as "you cannot use this item"

[mellow shell]

Yeah I am comparing the whole time. its 120/123 or lvl 97 it says..

[ornate bane]

//Archmage
Gain 350.88% of Damage as extra Lightning damage

added this to custom modifiers

just gotta math the increase

[jade locust]

i can't get the adorned to work on pob, anybody tried?

[rapid knot]

its not only dps also my mana, its 1400 lower than in game

guess i cant rely on this tool yet

[ornate bane]

weird mine is only like 10 off

[robust radish]

hmm how do i enable 2 heralds at once, it seems the coming calamity node is only working for my herald of thunder and not herald of ice

[flat kernel]

Yeah the poison equivalent works just fine, seems to be just the bleed one in specific.

[ashen copper]

can you guys give me your honest feedback on my build, whether or not it's complete trash? it's a homebrew and, while it has been fun, i'm looking to optimize or even potentially completely change it, if it's severely underpowered compared to the meta:

i didn't include all the skills i use but, i esentially just storm wave everything, then use tempest strike with bell for single target DPS.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/i75t0oqu

[thorny token]

hmm looks like the poison version do not works exactly fine either

someone broke it 😠

[flat kernel]

LMAO

[thorny token]

not applying 25% less damage

[soft lake]

Oh @thorny token, my Plasma Blast having higher poison DPS with the explosion than the projectile is because it's treating the explosion as having as really fast attack time, while the proj has the +2s attack time built into the skill. So it thinks I'm getting a higher poison roll with the explosion

[thorny token]

even though im 100% sure it did before whe i added it

[thorny token]

yea thats what i thought

that was also working correctly before btw

idk what happenede here lul

[flat kernel]

Oh yeah, good shout, didn't notice that, it's not applying that, true.

[thorny token]

oh well

[flat kernel]

And bleed is just the other way around.

[soft lake]

At least giving the explosion the +2s attack time as well will be an easy fix for that one

Although I guess additional proj is going to cause chaos for Plasma Blast calcs in general

[arctic pond]

How does one add support gems to a skill in PoB?

[thorny token]

yea, i have older version of pob pulled locally and there it works fine

so that is why i was confused

just grabbed latest release because i cant pull changes

as the github repo is broken atm

[hardy arch]

ok, so it's working as intendeed? because in all the video i've seen they never lose hp

[flat kernel]

Select an empty slot under your skill and pick your support.

[soft lake]

They all use regen/recoup to mitigate it

Along with intentionally getting as little life as possible

[jade locust]

i can't get the adorned to work on pob, anybody tried?

[thorny token]

oh found it

deep cuts is doing this

but deadly poison this

AilmentMagnitude is the correct modifier

so just parsed incorrectly

andthe hit less damage isnt working becasue someone added poison flag

[fickle latch]

this is my damage but idk what to put in the chill effect and shock effect boxes to rasie the dmg

[desert hawk]

is bow shot's dps calculating correctly? its showing 23 dps when in game it says 782

all my other skills arent accurate either but theyre waaaay closer

[flat kernel]

That would do it.

[elder hedge]

does the weapon sets work ?

[arctic pond]

The gems are not making any difference to dps for me

[thorny token]

alt + scroll to use them

[elder hedge]

tyty

[arctic pond]

Nvm it's just Bow shot that doesn't work

[onyx sable]

does anyone know if psychic fragmentation is meant to work on sparks, it says it doesnt on my skill tree?

[desert hawk]

yeah im looking in calcs and im seeing quiver add its effects to it but not my bow

[thorny token]

bow shot might be bugged i think its special cased in som way in pob

so might not be implemented correctly atm

same with other default attacks

[analog aurora]

Any one has like a pure pinnacle build?

[hybrid obsidian]

i cannot be considered on low life when im CI right?

[sterile latch]

Has anyone manage to take Archmage into account in Pob plz ?

[static plinth]

Well you can if you die (but no)

[cosmic copper]

Hi all: someone knows if Attrition gem works with totems? I see i get the culling strike effect, but not sure about the dmg

[static plinth]

Wait i lied, you can use this

[torn sage]

How long till the api is added to path of building you guys think ?

[graceful patrol]

i think ggg has to release it first, then they can add it to pob but as for when ggg will release it i wouldnt know

[hasty nebula]

is this pob2 safe? windows defender doesnt like it

[trim nest]

Dors anybody know if the increased passive effect on time-lost jewels applies before or after (or same time) as the increased passive effect on titan ascendancy?

[mellow shell]

Anyone else having a difference in passive tree points between Maxroll and POB? I have 3 more on POB than Maxroll

[graceful patrol]

its safe its because its a new program so thats why you see the windows defender screen or whatever but over time as windows learns its safe that will go away

[meager shore]

when dual wielding, the damage of the weapons is combined for the final damage, but are they still considered separate weapons for calculations based on the weapon? E.g. using a frostbreath along with a high dps 1h, will the total damage contribute to freeze buildup, or only the portion that the frostbreath does?

[somber pendant]

im using extraction in dark effigy but it doesnt seem to drain my life at all. To pop the totem down or for the totem to cast vile effusion, tooltip damage went up so im confused

[thorny token]

additive together

[trim nest]

Thanks! So maybe still useful for getting over a breakpoint 🤔

[astral badger]

if i copied my passive tree into POB and i have a bunch of skills left over, that prob means I screwed up my weapon set allocations at some point right?

[deft verge]

24% increased maximum energy shield is literally my currenty ES + 24% of it? That sounds too good to be true 🤔

[merry bone]

all increases to maximum energy shield are added together and applied to your base energy shield

[ornate bane]

what build is using the vertex this thing is like 1 div why

[tidal copper]

Vertex?

[thorny token]

50% reduced attrib requires is very strong

if you transfer it to stat reqs its like +150 attribs at minimum for most builds :d

[ornate bane]

must be some herald of ice warrior or something

[astral badger]

?

[thin basin]

are you level 100?

[vestal token]

how do i switch to weaponset passiv points on pob2 anyone know?

[slow mist]

i just got a lvl 7 support gem and im a fire/summon witch. which support skill do i pick (i alr have flame skeltons but they are lvl 4 only)?

[graceful patrol]

alt + scroll

[vestal token]

thank you

[solar walrus]

How good is pob

[woven smelt]

seems to need some work

[solar walrus]

Rip