2┃build-planning

[hidden heath]

And then you need good amulet, belt and boots with hp regen

That plus the gems

[carmine flicker]

and flat regen maximum tier on all/most items

also your rings and body doesn't give res
you don't have shield and weapon
AND you need all the regen(it's suffix afaik)

maxing res could be bit hard

[analog drum]

got this and im pretty happy :>

[hidden heath]

Forget about res

But it's not that you need it becuase u're gonna be 2 tapping bosses

[jaunty reef]

for my cast on shock/critical combo build i am using sparks as my initial triggering spell, should i stick with it or swap to a different spell?

[carmine flicker]

except when random rare mob one tap you with random bullshit

[analog drum]

thinking about running replacing unearth with corpse explosion so i get some aoes and more fire dmg

[daring willow]

this is listed for 2ex and the next one is for 50ex im assuming this isnt real? (im new to trading)

[hidden heath]

Well it would be hard for a random mob to tap that build, you must be unaware because it's 15k ES u're running, you have dog mitigation and also you have % of damage converted to chaos and fire, which should be maxed

Boss would be another story

[proven girder]

just dodge

[thin basin]

1. doesnt hurt to pm
2. dont get scammed (tho its only 2ex)

[daring willow]

just wanted to make sure i couldnt get scammed just by pming

[carmine flicker]

idk, random lightning mirrage from t15 rare tapped me with 6k es, 2k mana(mom) and some life with 75 lightning res
guess map mods was bit rough, but still

[thin basin]

they can only scam you during trading

[hidden heath]

Maybe a multi hit?

[carmine flicker]

may be.. no death recap in poe)

[daring willow]

ah alright thanks

[carmine flicker]

so 375% increased from tree

then around 75 or smth from wand

[static plinth]

Do yall think Dark Defiler is worth using with the buff?

[hidden heath]

My 88 died this morning, it was a demon infernalist, it was very easy honestly with that char and I died to a lag spike

I'm trying ice chrono now but I dont know how to explode ice wall with ice nova in 1 tap like a video I saw, I'm missing something

[carmine flicker]

so you are doing 550% of damage(450% increased)
you have +4 to all skill on wand
to top having +5(with same 75% increase) you need around 135% increased damage +4 wand

[static plinth]

Icicle support on the walls?

Or you just need more damage

There'e also tree nodes that make them break faster

[hidden heath]

I have icicle supp on walls and also the passive that decrease wall hp even more

And still I can't

Maybe it'sa damage issue yeah

[static plinth]

Then yeah just more damage

Can you inflict ailments on ice walls? I know you can essence drain them but not contagion them

[carmine flicker]

why not wall+fireball tho?
people said it works

idk

[thin basin]

say 6% corrupted and maybe 30-40ish minions? around 200%?

[hidden heath]

Yeah fireball works but I dont like it

The thing with ice chrono is that it's not easy to play and for it to work you need high level and I have been playing since level 1 so it's not optimal

lol

[lapis nacelle]

I can buy either a +5 with 78% or +4 with 139%

[carmine flicker]

I don't like the whole "constantly press 2 buttons to kill"
then again.. I'd rather press zero

[carmine flicker]

those would be VERY close
I'd go for +5 wand
easier to get %increases than +1 to lvl from other sources..

(I bet you aren't 100 so you can lvl up, take 2-3 damage nodes etc)

[lapis nacelle]

Or I could just save up for something better long term lol

[viscid sierra]

what gems I should use on these instead of res? cuz my chaos res very bad and its 0 impact from 20 or 10
so what will be the best choice?

[carmine flicker]

or that
but at that point crit and cast speed are more important stat than few increased damage

IF you go crit ofc

[lapis nacelle]

Doing non-crit with lightning rod

[carmine flicker]

also can someone help me decide between summons?
reavers, frost mages or storm mages?
storm have best clear with instant arcs, cold being cold freeze bosses and have better damage and reavers are agressive bunch and get aggro from everything like a bosses and remove things from the map, but worst clear and tends to bodyblock each other

also reavers need least button presses, cause they don't need curses, exposure or critical weakness from eye

[merry bone]

Snipers

[carmine flicker]

snipers need to press their stupid gas arrow 24/7, no?

[merry bone]

and do good dmg.... so whats the issue

[carmine flicker]

will have to drop either eye of the storm(crit) or pain offering

[merry bone]

why?

[carmine flicker]

only have 2 buttons on mouse after all(and LMB for walking)

[merry bone]

there are 8 keybinds possible

[carmine flicker]

I don't play POE to touch keyboard
except to chat

[hushed viper]

Hello, can someone explain why I'm losing dex on weapon swap? My weapons dont have +attributes or +dex anyways

[merry bone]

do you have weapon skill passives set up incorrectly?

[hushed viper]

Aha. I see what you mean, thank you!

[hot dew]

Hey all can you guys look at my stats and tell me why i might be get two shot in T9 maps? They hit me and i die like an old man having a massive heart attack

[carmine flicker]

you have nonexistent amount of ES for, you know, being ES

do you have Cloak of Flame?

[pearl sluice]

and ur es is rlly low

nvm innoc

rofl

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker Thank you for answering so i dont have enough energy shield? and no i dont have the cloak but i am about to get it now

[pearl sluice]

3k is super lw

[carmine flicker]

also why do you have so much armour?

[hot dew]

ok 3k is super low

[pearl sluice]

what character is it

[carmine flicker]

and, more important, HOW?

[hot dew]

Monk

[pearl sluice]

yeah u go ev es

[hot dew]

The armor is ffrom gear

[pearl sluice]

[hot dew]

OMG i love this dcommunity thank you all

[carmine flicker]

switch gear to pure ES or eva/es

[hot dew]

ok

[pearl sluice]

state of current game raw es is probably better and easier to build tbh

go to the monk chat tho

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker Cloak of flame is body armor?

[carmine flicker]

hybrid armor/eva/ES was bad even in POE1
and armor is POE2 is many times worse than it was in POE1

[carmine flicker]

ye

[hot dew]

This is my body armor

[carmine flicker]

oh, well
1)it could be better than cloak for sure
2)how and why do you have so low ES with ghost?

and did you take any armour nodes?

[hot dew]

I probaly have the wrong gear in general

[frosty pewter]

He has 1 hp

[carmine flicker]

ghost give ES even with CI

[hot dew]

CI give me 1 hp

[frosty pewter]

Ik but the last line

It does nothing with 1 hp so he is missing out

[carmine flicker]

he doesn't

[frosty pewter]

Sorry though this was him

[carmine flicker]

that line work first, THEN ci
at least it was that way 2 days ago

[night shadow]

can someone help me understand this support gem. I don't know if is good on my build or not.

[carmine flicker]

so you get ES from your life and THEN life is set on 1
you miss nothing, all works fine

[frosty pewter]

Ahh I see interesting

[hot dew]

yes CI drops my life down to 1

[night shadow]

I only have lightning damage skills

[carmine flicker]

it's good if you spam cold AND fire AND lightning skills constantly

[frosty pewter]

Ye I know how that part works

[hot dew]

So now I need to get all new gear and focus on ES/EV

[night shadow]

so it dose not give me any dmg increase if I only use lightning skills?

not even the 12% ?

[carmine flicker]

I guess no
but it's easy to check
use skill and look at skill DPS

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker Is the body armor your spoke of better than what I have? I am going to look for it now

[carmine flicker]

it should dinamically adjust

[frosty pewter]

Much

[carmine flicker]

with CI ghost is basically best in slot unless you get good eva+ES armour

[night shadow]

I will test that, wandering if is impacted by it self as well

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker ok I am going to go to the POE trade site and get it now

[carmine flicker]

I mean, why?
your armour should give you around 600-700 base ES

[hot dew]

All of you guys who answered are wonderful

[carmine flicker]

thx for sarcasm, as always

[static thicket]

Yo my auras keep turning off, I have the spirit, and weapon swap is not happening. It'll turn back on if I remove a support gem but then turn back off again after I start attacking stuff

[carmine flicker]

anyway, sarcasm aside, you really should fix your tree probably

your ES is waaaay to low

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker I am so happy this community is better than other like Wow and D4 because i now have a direction to go in

[carmine flicker]

anyway
it's good
you need to fix your tree to have bit more ES
and get eva on the rest of your gear
then get ghost dance spirit buff

[hushed viper]

how does increased energy shield affect everlasting gaze if I have Eldritch battery? Pure ES goes to Mana then everlasting gaze then %increased energy shield?

[carmine flicker]

if you have like 20k eva, 8k ES and recover 5% of your ES(so 1000) when you are finally hit(shouldn't happen that often) you should be good\

[static plinth]

Infernalist reservation nodes dont work prior to CI right

[carmine flicker]

ES from items converted to mana
then gaze give ES based on mana that isn't converted
then you increase that ES by % increases

[carmine flicker]

they don't

[static plinth]

Does the ES node get converted to mana by EB?

[carmine flicker]

yes
beidat is converted

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker You said fix my tree which is another issue i need to address

[sharp quail]

Lightning arrow or spark which is more budget friendly?

[hot dew]

Anyone know of any good monk build using icestrike and Tempest bell?

[cyan plover]

should I vaal?

[hushed viper]

gotcha ty

[carmine flicker]

"make your own and own it"

except, you know, don't ever bother with armour
eva+ES is 100 times better

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker Ok i can do that thank you so much for your help.

@carmine flicker I didnt know armor was busted. i am getting a lot of tells saying its busted lol

[carmine flicker]

well
there are many monk guides
idk if they use ice strike
but many attacks use kinda same tree and can be adapted

[icy hollow]

Hi, does anyone know if Pob 2 will be released today??¿

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker First i will fix my tree then grab some updated gear

[frosty pewter]

Wdym

[merry bone]

nah - it was delayed

[icy hollow]

path of building 2, for poe 2 xd

[icy hollow]

And I see, well thanks

[merry bone]

made no sense to release today since it would have been immediatley wrong

[supple jay]

I upgraded to boots with higher move speed and now rapid fire occasionally just stops firing??
the crossbow does a stutter fire instead of continuously firing

is there a jam mechanic?

[torpid wraith]

Is there a valuble hexblast bloodmage build ? that has good damage to bosses ?

[distant tendon]

so if my shield has 495 effect of soul cores i got 2 rarity soul cores active how much is that even

142

[mossy lily]

can someone help me math? are the chober chaber changes a buff? the 80-120% increased Physical Damage vs adds 58-65 to 102-110 Physical Damage

[humble wave]

What should I socket in this? ( I am running Chaos Incubation )

[static plinth]

Multiply effect by 5.95 and round down

[distant tendon]

got it from tooltip its 142

[static plinth]

Cold rune and chaos soul core?

[humble wave]

You mean the chaos resist soul core? Do I need Chaos Resist if I run Incubation?

[static plinth]

Oh right, no

[humble wave]

as for cold is it worth using a socket for 2% cold res?

I'm at 73%

[static plinth]

Yes

Unless you make it up elsewhere

[pearl sluice]

Anyone know how much rarity is good to get divine drops? I don't wanna go overkill

[wise plover]

Need a stat build invoker guide I'm in cruel2 lvl53 ish

[static plinth]

Diminishing returns after ~150%

[humble wave]

Well with the socket changes i guess it's not a big deal to cap frost and replace, I just thought 2% isn't that big of a deal

[pearl sluice]

Ty

[dawn spire]

You're essentially taking 8% more cold damage at 73% than at 75%. If you think a rune is worth 8% less cold damage taken, I'd socket it. Especially now that they're replaceable

Technically you take 8% more without the rune, but with the rune you'll take 7.4% less

[humble wave]

Yeah Ill socket a glacial, cheers

[tidal copper]

How much e shield can you get with EV/ES equipment?...

[hot dew]

@carmine flicker How much Es should i am for to begin with

[humble wave]

that'll be more up to your passives than the armor itself but you can find 900Eva/400ES chests

[frosty pewter]

So do most of all builds require you to use a combination of abilities together or are there any viable one button builds

[humble wave]

Mercenary can work with 2 buttons

2 buttons and the rest spirit skills

[frosty pewter]

So that’s about it then is it boss viable

[pale cloak]

for fubgun LA is flat phys more important than lightning damage for bow?

[dawn spire]

When looking at the damage ranges at the top of the bow, physical and lightning should have nearly equal value, point for point

But in the mods section, flat phys tends to do better because the bow may also have %increased physical damage to scale it

[pale cloak]

okay so a 200 pDPS 100 lightning damage bow would be equivalent to a 300 pDPS bow

[dawn spire]

No

A 200 pdps and 100 lightning-dps bow would be equivalent to a 300 pdps bow

[tidal copper]

You can sort by DPS in the trade site instead of physical so it's easy to sort

[dawn spire]

A 200 pdps bow with 100 lightning damage and 1.5x attack speed would mean it has 150 lightning damage per second, or 350 total dps, which would beat the 300 pdps bow

Your example is true only for bows with 1.0 attack speed

[pale cloak]

in this case if we ignore fire on the bow, a 250 pDPS bow would be equivalent?

[dawn spire]

The image isn't loading for me in mobile. Can you paste its info here? Ctrl+C the bow and ctrl v here

[pale cloak]

Item Class: Bows
Rarity: Rare
Dire Thunder
Expert Dualstring Bow

Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 129-241 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 42-75 (augmented), 3-135 (augmented)
Critical Hit Chance: 6.82% (augmented)
Attacks per Second: 1.20

Requirements:
Level: 78
Dex: 212

Sockets: S S

Item Level: 79

40% increased Physical Damage (rune)

Bow Attacks fire an additional Arrow (implicit)

135% increased Physical Damage
Adds 42 to 75 Fire Damage
Adds 3 to 135 Lightning Damage
+1.82% to Critical Hit Chance
Leeches 6.48% of Physical Damage as Life
Gain 41 Mana per Enemy Killed

[dawn spire]

No, that bow has a combined phys+lightning* dps of 304.8

It has 254 average phys+lightning damage per hit

[pale cloak]

because of the attack speed

[tidal copper]

I'm getting lost in this conversion

[dawn spire]

Times 1.2x attacks per second

[tidal copper]

What's the point of all this? What are we finding out

[dawn spire]

How to compare bows for a lightning arrow build

Lightning damage is basically equivalent to physical damage

After local modifiers

But it makes searching the trade site more annoying. What'd I'd do is put NOT filters for fire and cold damage, then search by total dps

[tidal copper]

What about ele DMG % how will that interact...?

[dawn spire]

It doesn't affect the weapon's base dps, but it does factor in. It's just usually way less important

[tidal copper]

I see...

[dawn spire]

That % increased damage with ele attacks mod on martial weapons is a global mod, not local. So it just gets lumped in with every other %increase you have that's applicable to the skill you're using

[hushed viper]

does anybody know why my soul offering just makes my minions disappear?

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot the soul offering tooltip?

[hushed viper]

If I set it to only weapon set 2, it wont let me slot in the skill in the bar

if I swap to the actual rattling scepter that disappears

[humble wave]

Ideal setup for 3 charm slots? 3 freeze? 3 stun?

[kindred turret]

does anbybody know how the # to # (damage type) modifier work?

is there a maximum number it can go to

if so how do you tell?

[atomic halo]

there's tiers

higher tiers can go higher

for that specific tier hold alt to see its range

well not for the runes or the corrupt enchant but you werent clear

[hybrid ocean]

You do kind of want cold though, unless you're running 3 dragons

[vestal coral]

thoughts?

[tidal copper]

What's the notable in the bottom left that you are ignoring

[dawn spire]

Do you have enough attributes on your second weapon set to use it?

[hushed viper]

yeap, found it. It was a bug

[dawn spire]

I think it's more magic monsters or something

[hushed viper]

it wont spawn the minions on weapon swap as well

just needed to log in and log back out

[dawn spire]

Classic fucky spirit

[vestal coral]

20% inc magic pack size

[plain rock]

Hey guys is there any info anywhere about what splash damage is on cultist hammer?

I mean like the damage scaling etc

I’ve looked everywhere and can’t seem to find anything on it for PoE2

[vestal coral]

hmm, whats better, 3% increased number of packs, or 20% increased magic pack size

[tidal copper]

It says that it'll make strike skills splash I'll assume is just makes the kinda of Aoe abilities and that's it

[vestal coral]

cause i could sacrifice 3% inc # of packs for 20% magic pack size, but i think 20% more rare packs scales off number of packs, and rares scale off the +1-2 more mods on rare/unique node

so it's close but i think 3% might be better

[vital scroll]

anyone make a new build with the unique buffs?

[dawn spire]

I belive it just lets strike skills also do their damage in an area around the primary target

[dawn spire]

Calling them buffs is too generous

[hushed viper]

How does damage taken from mana before life work if you have CI and energy shield? Does it take from the energy shield instead?

[crimson dagger]

energy shield takes damage before mana

[static spade]

Titan ascendancy notable passive: Crushing impact

Is this good for caster types? Would you prefer this than the 15% max life notable passive?

[daring willow]

any ideas if this is worth getting for 39ex

[merry bone]

what are you doing as a caster to generate the Heavy Stun Buildup?

[static spade]

I took titan solely for this notable passive, everything else is just a bonus.

[merry bone]

Sure. But you didnt explain the build you are planning - you just asked if as Caster Crushing is better than the Life passive.

To know that - understanding how you intend to build stuns is important. If you arent using a physical spell - or trying to generate stuns, then crushing probably not worth

[round mica]

Anyone able to help show me how med\larg radius would look at this part of tree?

[static spade]

Ah I see. I am building something very similar to this one. https://youtu.be/CTpaxuWjdRc?si=578r3KMEuRPCwPlZ

Except that I plan on spamming triggered fireballs as well.

[haughty dove]

what is the monk build called that people are useing to delete end game maps. I am building a monk at the moment

[merry bone]

There are a solid half dozen good monk builds

[haughty dove]

ahh ok

so I gueess it just depends on what I like

I like the hearld ice and lighting

[merry bone]

If you mean QUARTERSTAFF though - most people are building that on Gemling Legionnaire - and its a Pillar of the Caged God / Hand of Wisom & Action Stat stacker

You can play Stacker on Monk if you want as well - but gemling kind of custom made for it.

Most Monk builds (invoker) are running either Ice Strike or Tempest Flurry as their main attack - supported by both herald of ice and lightning, and support htem in ways that they chain off of one another.

You can additionally add Power charges - and include Falling Thunder or Flicker strike

[haughty dove]

ahh ok yeah stat stat staking at the moment

[merry bone]

(all of them use Charged Staff as it provides a buff with flat damage)

[haughty dove]

charged that staff and tempest flurry ok that give me a idea i what builds to look at

what makes the leginnaire good for stat stacking

[craggy lava]

Ive turned hexblast into a critical hit nuclear weapon :)

[static spade]

@merry bone
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/a8e8q0nn

Here are a few key features that I plan on building (might change overtime)

[lyric plank]

@steady berry read and weep

[steady berry]

dumbass you said it was a level 7 gem

we're literally talking about act 1 minions

[blazing coyote]

I just beat the campaign and I’m level 70 I’m a deadeye ranger idk what build I should use

[lyric plank]

this ones differnt i didnt say the lvl 7 had 30

lmao

the level 7 had 8

[plain rock]

And there’s no damage fall off? What about ailment application? Crits?

[hot dew]

Can anyone recommend a better staff for a level 72 Monk better than this? looking for more physical damage Thanks

[sonic pollen]

can you not get energry shields on rings?

[hot dew]

@sonic pollen I too looked for rings with es trying to increase mine and found none

[sonic pollen]

rip ok.... need my shields up lol have to much evasion i thnk

[hot dew]

I am the opposite now i need more evasion i have 6k Es up from 3k

[sonic pollen]

im at 3k currently

[hot dew]

I was told 3k is too low so i increased mine

[sonic pollen]

ya it is... i know its low but not sure where to gain more

[hot dew]

I get a lot from

[sonic pollen]

i have morior

[delicate geyser]

Helm?

The unique one is giga

[sonic pollen]

whats the price tho?

im kinda on a bit of a budget

[delicate geyser]

Got mine for 1 ex

[sonic pollen]

whats the name of it?

[delicate geyser]

Not sure if it’s changed or not

Uhh sec

[sonic pollen]

ty

[distant tendon]

Is spark still super good

[hot dew]

@distant tendon My sorc is Spark and i love it

[distant tendon]

And how is it doing after today?

[delicate geyser]

It’s effectively like 450 energy shield give or take at 1500 health

Plus if you use grim feast it’s even better

But that helmet has the most effective ES in the game and is severely underrated imo

[hot dew]

@distant tendon I have not tried it today. Not yet atleast was there a nerf?

[distant tendon]

I was told there was

[hot dew]

@distant tendon gosh darn i didnt know that imma try to run some maps and see if im still clearing

[distant tendon]

Lmk

[sonic pollen]

when it says bypasses energy shield does that mean it hits your health?

[humble wave]

Is it possible to get to 100% damage recouped as Mana? And if so, if you were to combine it with the passive that deals damage to Mana before HP, would you literally become unkillable?

[delicate geyser]

I believe so, but I don’t notice it to be honest

But I have like 1700 health

[sonic pollen]

im thinking about trying and going chaos inoculation so taking damage is not good LOL

[hot dew]

@distant tendon Gonna run a map in bout 10 15 min standby

[delicate geyser]

Ah yeah no bueno

[sonic pollen]

def looks like a good item but not for what i am needing

[mossy sequoia]

How much accuracy am I supposed to have?

[livid flume]

is path of building 2 out

[hot dew]

@distant tendon Are you still on?

[stone thistle]

any good armour builds rn?

[distant tendon]

ye

[hot dew]

@distant tendon I am still frying people with a shocking experience fast as normal i see no nerfs at all. From my understanding there were no nerfs

@distant tendon I can't take too many hits but no one gets close enogh to touch me i have sparks flying like birds going south for the winter

[distant tendon]

Fair

[pale cloak]

is rage on hit a good implicit for pillar of the caged god?

[distant tendon]

anyone here have magic find spark build?

[keen glade]

anyone else using blueflame bracers? i have a corrupted with 116% conversion but the damage is the same with 100% conversion

[stoic nebula]

Have anyone tried tempo + choir after patch? It seems damage got nerfed a TON, can’t even kill regular packs on t15

[static plinth]

Well yeah, you're doing like 1/100th of the procs you had before

[stoic nebula]

Damn it really.. so the build itself is wasted now?

[static plinth]

Probably, hopefully

[shadow zephyr]

Given that my totems are almost all physical damage and my leech value is now almost 20%, is there a tooltip somewhere that indicates totems not leeching is intended behavior, or is this a bug? because they oneshot enemies but my lifebar doesn't move.

[static plinth]

Its intended, idk if there's a specific tooltip

[shadow zephyr]

Uuuugh. I don't mind the design decisions but I wish they were communicated clearly, maybe by not putting a stat in the dropdown menu that doesn't apply to the skill v.v;

been thinking I was just leechinng really slow for 84 levels lol

[static plinth]

They might leech to themselves in 2 though, dont know for sure if thats still not a thing

[shadow zephyr]

I... had not even considered that. squint That would be... acceptable. Not as good as leeching from across the screen, but hey.

Ty for the tip

[deft heart]

has anyone managed to get a chronomancer build working that doesn't use archmage? trying to get one together but without AM i feel like im lacking damage output

[deft heart]

above 100% conversion will get normalised to 100% i believe

[keen glade]

well that sucks... why let it get vaal'ed then

[shadow zephyr]

I feel like there's a cracked out meme build to be made with chronomancer running STR-Mace and socketing Ingenuity into Hammer of the Gods, but I haven't figured out how to swing it yet 😄

[deft heart]

woah I didnt even think of going that way with it, seems kind of cool

would you go giants blood and shield as well? i mean if you end up going that way on the tree

[shadow zephyr]

would load up on CDR and duration reduction nodes

[deft heart]

why the duration reduction?

[shadow zephyr]

Well, on one hand, that sounds smart. On the other hand, you don't really need the str for a 2-handed mace, I'm still using a one-handed on my 84 warrior and HotG has the highest dps of any of my skills by far... and I'm running ancestral sunder shotguns...i mean totems 😄

[deft heart]

yeah i think giants blood could be cool but it is a lot of travelling on the tree, not really a fast way to tp like poe1

[shadow zephyr]

I mean to do it you'd have to run through a good chunk of one of the physical class sections of the passive tree, HotG is an attack, not a spell, and it's straight physical damage, so there's nothing in the sorc tree to synergize with it except a ton of mana gen/MoM/Battery combo b/c you're gonna eat massive chunks of it.

so it'd be right there for the taking most likely if you ran down the warrior tree

[deft heart]

yeah

why would you go duration reduction nodes, its the something with HotG that im missing

[muted umbra]

Does anyone know if "Gain more fire damage based on physical damage" (burning strikes) happens before conversion? Basically do you benefit from it if you convert all your physical away?

[autumn wind]

is bleed magnitude how people get those gigantic bleeds that like one shot some bosses

or is it more so about the initial damage going into the shot

or somewhere inbetween

[foggy bloom]

what can I do to prevent enemies from interrupting my spell casts?

[sonic pollen]

does the charged staff attack count as a Projectile? so would "14% increased Projectile Damage" help that?

[crisp star]

so does choir's greater lightning bolt have a cooldown or does it just need more cast speed?

cause i've been spamming crits and i don't see that thing proc alot even with 70% crit rate and eye of winter spam

[stone yew]

"Skills socketed in a Meta Gem's sockets can no longer gain energy"

Does this mean the Impetus support gem doesnt increase the energy of the supported skill now? im dumb i don't understand lmao

[slate badger]

is comd with infernalist still good after patch?

[tawny mica]

I read it as, if a skill has an energy gain mechanic of it's own wont give you extra energy

idk know

[shadow zephyr]

sorry, ran a map.
When you cast HotG there's a duration before it actually falls and deals damage. Duration increase makes it take longer to fall, lowering your effective dps.

it's similar to wanting earthquake to have a lower duration so the eruption happens faster

[jaunty flame]

kekw is this even usable

[shadow zephyr]

the idea for the meme in my head is taking a chronomancer with hammer of the gods, giving it ingenuity (30% CDR), tremors (chance for double/quadruple/septuple damage via aftershocks), fast forward (30% less duration), Heft (damage ramp), and second wind.

Cast as many times as Now and Again + Second Wind lets you, hit your cooldown reset, repeat, and watch 4-6 hammers fall on multiple enemies in rapid succession with 6 possible aftershocks each.

[static plinth]

Anyone know a planner i can input gear into?

[shadow zephyr]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/

[frosty pewter]

So I know they say you shouldn’t start with the stat stacking gemling legionnaire because it’s expensive but I’m pretty dead set on it as my first build what is considered “ expensive “ is it really out of reach and what are the not so important parts of the build I could potentially cheap out on until I’m a higher level if there’s a way I will do it

[haughty dove]

the gloves you need cost divine orbs

staff is not to bad

[static plinth]

You can function off of flat damage rings, the +50 attribute, -1 attribute per level helm, and pillar for a while at the start

[frosty pewter]

Where do the gloves drop from if o wanted to get them myself

[static plinth]

Xesht-Ula, one of the final bosses of the game

The Breach pinnacle boss

[frosty pewter]

Ahh damn nm lol

[static plinth]

~20% drop rate

[frosty pewter]

Ight yeah I’ve seem or heard of most of them they all seem pretty accessible

[pearl sluice]

How is this spec? (hc)

[static plinth]

Its still like half a dozen exalted to get started, though

[cunning panther]

I wanna try new build on ssf, can someone recommend me one that's not warrior or stat stacking ?

[frosty pewter]

I can do 6 exalts if that’s it

[static plinth]

Pretty sure its 3 - 5 for pillar and 1 for the helmet

[frosty pewter]

Damn bet that isn’t to bad

[forest crater]

Can I post a link in here I need someone to explain to me how this build works…?

[frosty pewter]

Isn’t that what this is for

[forest crater]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iJGRc3zgDTA?si=dB5mnfWIyACASoM3

[static plinth]

You make Herald of Ice shock so it procs Herald of Thunder, and you make Herald of Thunder chill + the unique ring Polcierkn so it procs Herald of Ice

Oh wait this isnt The herald build

Should probablyve actually watched the clip

[forest crater]

Is it even viable on higher tier maps?

[forest crater]

Will do

[static plinth]

Looks like Wind Dancer is proccing Herald of Ice

[static plinth]

I meant myself lol

[forest crater]

Oh kk haha

[haughty dove]

Not sure about that build but I have seen monk builds delete t16

It was to the point to where I though they were useing cheats. I know they were not just how storng some builds are

[forest crater]

That’s wild I’ve honestly done my best not to look at vids for maps I wanna see it for myself I’m almost there

[haughty dove]

Yeah I main witch but beeing playing witch for time then I care to admit. So I am makeing a gemlin just cause it looks fun

[forest crater]

That’s dope I started on witch myself as well but I got bored and ended up with merc lol rockets go brrrrrrr

[muted stone]

How's the armour change looking? Viable?

[static plinth]

Same shit different day

[kind crest]

New meta

[nimble ferry]

Hi, I'm fairly new to PoE 2, I picked the witch class and was wondering which build to follow, I saw two, one of which was a Arsonist + Flame wall build and the second was the totem dark effigy build.

Both look fun but I was wondering if both builds do good enough damage to go over to high end game.

[pearl sluice]

Hi, can someone please help me with a Gemling Legionnaire build? How do I freeze enemies with the Black Sun Crest helm and herald of thunder

[timber scroll]

Glaciation support gem on herald of thunder

[pearl sluice]

hi can i also use herald of ice on top of it, is the freeze buildup as good as the three dragon's mask?

[foggy bloom]

it means skills that were auto-casted from meta gems won't generate energy on their own, to avoid loops
i.e. if you auto cast comet with CoF and the comet lands and freezes more enemies, enemies frozen by that comet won't generate energy
i.e. if you auto cast comet with CoC and the comet lands and crits, it won't generate energy

[timber scroll]

For heralds to proc eachother you can put cold infusion on herald of thunder and lightning infusion with glaciation on herald of thunder, you can use black sun crest helm with no problem idk about the interaction with three dragons mask

[foggy bloom]

if you auto cast shock with CoS, and that shock shocks, it won't generate energy

[pearl sluice]

build freeze is really easy on this helm

but the damage is way higher on this

i will try your trick and see if it works

[timber scroll]

There are better helms then three dragons

[pearl sluice]

should i use herald of ice along withit

[timber scroll]

Is not needed

[distant tendon]

which ascendancy is better for sorceress

spark build

[muted stone]

Is there a gem that splits a glacial cascade into three? I seem to remember seeing it but cant' find it now

[unborn salmon]

does anyone have a chaso with build around level 63

[tidal copper]

What

[grand nebula]

What is the best loot filter in your opinion for the monk atm?

[muted stone]

Is there a way to make Glacial Cascade or Storm Wave fire out three waves instead of one?

[pallid cave]

hey.. can someone tell me how to get more spirit ? ... what gear items can give spirit [either as main bonus or from the other bonuses ]?

[grand nebula]

Try spell echo support? Or unleash

[tidal copper]

I find myself pathing towards attribute nodes/needing a lot of attributes in my equipment anyone else?

[worthy sorrel]

what is a good build for new players?

[tidal copper]

Archer warrior or mage

[rapid seal]

Anyone notice difference in armor? Is it worth it now?

[worthy sorrel]

and specifc build?

[tidal copper]

Uh? I'm asking what class would like to play any is good?

[worthy sorrel]

any yeah

[tidal copper]

Lighting arrow by "fubgum" there are probably 5 good guides out there with little differences

[worthy sorrel]

i played explosive archer in poe 1

idk how poe2 wotrks

[scenic stirrup]

Ik gas arrow ranger rn with ice conversion it's a glass cannon very hard to maintain mana and health

[worthy sorrel]

anything thats op and budget?

[scenic stirrup]

Combine radiation grief unique helm with gas arrow

It's very budget I'm on tier 10 rn but I'm trying to figure out my sustain problem

[torn wyvern]

Does the avg dmg per use include the ignite dmg?

[marsh river]

ok shockwave totem seems to be fixed while i slept, however, was it always such a huge visuall glutter with jagged ground and screen full of debris?

[tidal copper]

Totems fixed?

[maiden parcel]

would you guys rather go for level 20 bell or charged staff?

[mighty yew]

will this on level 78 be better despite not having +4 mele skill level?

[warped jackal]

Anyone who came up or has a cool build for fire/ignite bases ranger? either with bow or crossbow

[maiden parcel]

look at the physical damage at the top. the right one is way bigger. and just equipp them and see what the dmg numbers on your skill is and compare

[tidal copper]

Ignite is on the armour area though

[ornate coyote]

hi i wanna ask something about my build

i do a gemling sparkmage but i just have 3k dps why

i have all requiment for https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/0506a1a8-634e-4e98-b412-65d90fb51ea2/builds/4b6a9e6b-6444-4dc9-80d9-ccc5e45440d8 this build

[marsh river]

@tidal copper yeah so it sseems

well this one is at least

@mighty yew not even close imo, one on the right probably miles bette

look at the base damages without even looking at melee skills

errm

ignore me

i need to wake the f up

i think it would depend on whether you use ANY melee skills at all, but you probably will, in which case

skill levels are huge

if you swing an auto attack it would be different story

[lone berry]

anyidea for this now , seem useless now

[mighty yew]

ok ty :D

[marsh river]

@mighty yew really i dont know, but try both, i have a feeling melee skills are more important

[mighty yew]

i use sunder, hammer of god, mace strike as main way to destory armor

infernar cry

[marsh river]

also why not armour break on leap or smth?

[mighty yew]

i have it on totem i think

[lone berry]

i am lmao , now need to rebuild from 0

[marsh river]

in other words if you put it on an attack skill, itll consolidate things around skills where melee skill levels matter

[mighty yew]

i bet Elon would say 78 level is better hah

[marsh river]

i had one armour break on leap, one that activated on heavy stun, and other one "break armour 15% of your damage" on bone shatter, so i broke armour on leap, then consumed it with bone shatter, and broke further if something was left standing, not sure latter mattered but it worked quite well

[hushed viper]

Hello, is "60% increased spell damage + 20% extra cold damage + 20% extra lightning + level 3 skills" better than "85% spell damage + level 4 skills"?

[distant cypress]

so is armor still dogshit? cloak of flame still the way to go?

[tidal copper]

Alkaizer made a fair point which is physical DMG isn't that common on the game currently
The way to go is to go hybrid armour/eshield or hybrid evasion/armour

[fallen mica]

Can anyone help me, as invoker flurry build am i stacking storm runes or phys on my weap

[halcyon solar]

is there an actual Str/Dex build out there that would go up to 86/86?

[tidal copper]

86/86?

[tacit isle]

anyone know the the 6 link priority between tempest bell and tempest flurry when it comes to boss killing?

[halcyon solar]

it's not like it's that high. I just think nobody play Str/Dex

[tidal copper]

True you'd rather go evasion or armour e shield

[static plinth]

Any crossbow build is forced to do that

[gloomy jackal]

Am I correct that Freeze buildup doesn't help with Chill at all? If I wanna chill I gotta get Chill magnitude or what?

[tidal copper]

Forced is a strong word

[static plinth]

I mean i guess not technically forced but level 20 crossbow skills need 109 STR/DEX

Level 18 97/97

[gloomy jackal]

Just use Alloy crossbow

best stats anyway unless doing phys

Wait... Is there no support gem for chill, only freeze? Glaciation does nothing right

[worldly stone]

what is the best rarity on gear to find divines

[gloomy jackal]

scam bot?

[tidal copper]

127

I'm only half joking

It soft *caps at around 150

[gloomy jackal]

it most certainly does not

[clear sluice]

any cool tech with shockwave totem and astral projection?

and does aftershock counts as a nova for astralprojection? 😄

[magic bluff]

Hey all, does anyone know the math on how to prevent the witch from losing health while transformed?

I've gotten her health REGEN higher than health but it still ticks down.

[tidal copper]

What
How much DMG it does

[magic bluff]

the damage increases every second while transformed. I get to about 200 demon flame and it starts to slowly tick down, slowly increasing in rate(I have 197 health). I'm just trying to understand how folks were able to stop the health ticks entirely.

[plain cloud]

Hey, what's a good Ingenuity Belt Bonus % to get - especially is there a good price to stat ratio ?

[thorny token]

anything above 50% is worth it

[warped jackal]

I was asking before about ignite/fire and ranger, but could i make ignite/fire bow or cross warrior work? or is it just not worth it

[dawn spire]

I believe there's no falloff and crits apply as well. Everything you do to your struck target will also be done to everything in an area around it

[dawn spire]

Idk what you define as "worth it" and honestly I think warrior might be very strong for it. Snipe is one of the highest base damage skills in the game (solid for ignite) and warrior starts pretty close to avatar of fire so you can convert a huge physical damage snipe to something that can ignite

[strong lion]

I have 155 spirit
30 herald
60 cast on shock
30 grim feast
30 wind dancer

why does it still say i lack spirit for cast

[dawn spire]

Is that red support gem adding spirit cost?

[strong lion]

nope

[dawn spire]

Oh, it's precision on Herald of thunder

[warped jackal]

Worth it as in time/effort/currency, but thanks! I will try it out, i alread have chrono and 2 monks so i wanted to do something different

[strong lion]

omg im 5 off

JESUS

T_T

thank you

[lilac lava]

is it possible to dual whield twice the same unique weapon ?

[wary wave]

Does raging spirits generate energy ?

like, for "Cast on minion death"

[rancid cipher]

How were the armor buffs?

[dawn spire]

Yes, but you can never dual wield wands

[dawn spire]

Yes, raging spirits are minions

[dawn spire]

Patch notes just said armor is 15% more effective and scavenged plating generates more stuff based on the rarity of the enemy

[gaunt ether]

Why would anyone ever bother to cap demonflame to 10?

Do stacks effectiveness increase when you cap it?

[twilit ruin]

does chaos damage just not scale with spell damage or something

[gaunt ether]

Phys

Atleast for poison

[twilit ruin]

i mean contagion and essence

[twilit ruin]

for leveling

less life regen requirement

[gaunt ether]

Oh guess itd make sense

[primal sluice]

Hey guys!
I am trying to determine 1 spark setup that will be good both for thrash and bosses.
For thrash, i think around 50k spark DPS is sufficient to just roll through the map.
Now for bosses, how do i decide what type of setup will bring me the best amount of "cast on shock"?
Do i put 100% more shock support gem on spark, or do i get higher damage, because this also makes shock better?
Is there any calculator, where i can see if my chance for shock is better with more damage or more shock chance?

[gaunt ether]

weird its 10 though i feel like 50 is pretty manageable

[glad bone]

easiest solution is to pick up choir of the storm

[primal sluice]

unfortunately i need everlasting gaze, because i only have 4k mana, and i need some ES.
Forgot to say, im stormweaver spark with archmage and cast on shock

Is there any tool to figure out actual shock chance? I know it varies per monster, but i dont even know what range is it and how different stats apply to it

[glad bone]

not yet, it's VERY different per monster anyway

it's proportional to max life

standard spark links are unleash, arcane tempo, fork, considered casting, acceleration

[primal sluice]

hmm will try this and just test shock chance on bosses, i`m aiming for reapplying shock instantly to maximize number of cast on shock, if boss doesnt have shocks reapplied instantly, then ill know i need to change 😄

thanks!

[glad bone]

you could swap acceleration for conduction

[primal sluice]

hmm for bosses you are right, since i dont need to fill the screen with sparks, just aim at him, good idea!

[glad bone]

lightning exposure is also sort of helpful depending on the rest

[twilit ruin]

does spell damage intrinsically increase with mana? tried using enfolding dawn with threaded light and it just made me feel weaker

[primal sluice]

only if you have archmage on

[rancid cipher]

Is recoup considered regeneration?

[sudden imp]

Not sure if its fine to ask here but. Let's say I have a ring with a stat saying "adds 1 to 46 lightning damage to attacks" what determines me doing that 46 damage? Is it all rng to do x damage in-between 1 to 46? Every attack?

[cunning panther]

yo, can someone recommend a build to try out that's good for ssf (not gemling stat stacking) ?

wanna go ssf, but most popular build atm seem to be needing a lot of uniques, so it's hard for ssf

[river berry]

dang im hyped for pob release same as poe2 EA month ago 😄

finally i can PLAN my build

[pearl sluice]

the 100% spell dmg doesn't increase detonate dead's corspe explosion damage right? it would only apply if you were scaling the fire DMG aspect of it, it's a dead stat if you're just exploding corspes since the DMG is just based on 20% of the max life of the monster

[mystic shard]

so applying shock on bosses

what is the hp threshhold? on players its ur entire hp amount

to be hit with an ailment

if I just increase my chance to shock by an immense amount till its 100% will I always shock on hit?

Even if I dont meet this threshhold or whatever

[fervent briar]

i suppose nobody knows any update on pob?

[celest fractal]

is 10% increased magnitude of ailments equivalent in effect as 10% increased magnitude of shock on jewels for spark?

[rancid cipher]

Does this only apply to energy shield, armor, and evasion?

[gaunt verge]

Hey I've reached endgame, and since act 3 I find that I'm having trouble staying alive.
I don't have any unique gear equipped, and am running a frost sorc build. I'm not sure how to boost my survivability.
any tips?

[sudden crown]

does "reduced charges per use" on mana flasks work with concoction skills ??

[thorny token]

are your resists capped

[thorny token]

no

[sudden crown]

sad 😦

[mystic shard]

do crits ALWAYS shock?

[thorny token]

no

[gaunt verge]

no... they are in negative, though I made sure to get every boss upgrade in the acts

[thorny token]

yea you need to cap at least the ele resists asap

from gear

game is balanced around having ele resists capped and you get fucked very hard if they arent

[rancid cipher]

How much increased critical hit chance is this worth?

[gaunt verge]

i'll look into it. should I bother going for any unique gear pieces?

[thorny token]

depends on your build but they make capping resists harder so it can be annoying

so prioritize the resists and stats on rares over uniques unless they are very impactful for your build

[gaunt verge]

ok thanks

[midnight geode]

is "increased shock effect" the same as "increased shock magnitude"?

[rapid galleon]

Anyone here know about DMG Formular?
I'm still building a Detonate Dead Blood Mage.
Now im looking for improvements.
There are many guides like Crit and spell dmg and so on.
But if i go like :
Detonate Dead + Brutality + Echo Cast + Corpse Conversation + Heft
In my thoughts this works like:
Corpse Life 20 % = Base DMG Full Physical
+
35% Brutality
+
Max Dmg 30% (Heft)
+
Global Modifyer
= Base Phys Max Dmg * Crit Pos DMG = End Dmg
No elemental DMG no spell dmg.
Or is there a Spell Indicator too? Anyone know?

[marsh river]

the crypt map boss, what reduces the damage of his attacks? fire res sure, had that before too, evasion, block? it somehow felt mor epainful than before

shouldnt it mostly be spells? so fire res so same?

[mystic shard]

Is there any trick to get gauranteed shock on enemies on hit that isn't to do with dmg?

[glad bone]

shocked ground

[mystic shard]

it doesn't count as a hit and doesn't build to cast on shock sadly

but still that may actually help, thx.

[marsh river]

ie which attacks are evadable which are blockable

[glad bone]

oh, for cast on shock yea not really, you just want damage x shocj chance

[foggy edge]

Strikes deal Splash damage to targets within 1.8 metres how does this benefit me on hammer of the gods if i already have 4.2m aoe on it ?

will it go 6?

[marsh river]

i thought thats just separate extra splash damage

[robust radish]

did pob2 come out yet

[thorny token]

no

[tiny plaza]

Im a curse boot anyone wants tô play with me?

[rancid cipher]

Does this effect mana recoup from damage?

[glad bone]

yes

[rancid cipher]

Got it, thank you. Is recoup considered recovery?

Wondering about something like this with it.

[cosmic basin]

If i unspec this node, my dexterity stat goes down by around 50. any idea why that would be?

[cosmic basin]

its says from regeneration, does recoup say that its regen? i think it might be a seperate mechanic

[rancid cipher]

It says that you "recover" health.

[mystic shard]

are there actually any spell effects or whatever or monster mechanics tied to the "background fps"

[cosmic basin]

yeah "Regeneration" is a specific mechanic

[mystic shard]

because otherwise I might just put it to 1 fps

it seems to make my game immensly more smooth

[rancid cipher]

I would assume background fps is only for when you're tabbed out of the game.

[calm roost]

Anyone knows how to make a build around Corpsewade Iron Greaves work on bosses that dont always drop corpses?

[mystic shard]

what upscale mode do u all use?

the default looks the best to me, the rest look kinda blurry but shrug I dno

[cosmic basin]

weapon swap to a weapon with minions on and use the buff that lets you target minions

[halcyon solar]

if you are running chaos inauc, you can basically run the potions with "increased amount + 15% drained from life" for free, rigth?

[calm roost]

good idea

[cosmic basin]

i assume it would just kill you

[halcyon solar]

you think 15% of 1 hp would drain that?

[cosmic basin]

yes sorry, i though it was 15% of the mana recovered from life

[halcyon solar]

oh wait, i think you are right

[cosmic basin]

i have life flask version

it says "of life recovered"

[halcyon solar]

i have none in invetory atm

[cosmic basin]

anyone know why this is?

[wet mango]

Yes, but read that node again. It specifies what type of recovery it's talking about

[night shadow]

can someone help me understand why? I have 6 nodes so that is 6*4% = 24% extra damage as chaos, and from my calculation I should have somewhere around 6000 instead of 3000.

[fiery stone]

Would a shield be worth carrying on a monk at all?

[tulip fog]

if i am using a skill that has a set ignite damage (i.e. incinerate) and i take this node, does that increase ignite damage i apply to the target after they are ignited?

[elder mural]

Where can you get Melting Maelstrom Ultimate Mana Flask

[main vale]

Could anyone help with a witchhunter quarterstaff build

[cosmic basin]

ignite is based off the initial hit so yeah, if you re-ignite it will

[livid flume]

just post and see?

[tough valley]

how do i generate a filterblade URL for my filter

[main vale]

Wdym

[livid flume]

post ur question here and see

[main vale]

Oh ok

[merry bone]

click the share button

[white timber]

Does POB2 release today?

[tough valley]

thanks!

[lone berry]

guys, is "increased damage" increase element dmg ?

[dawn spire]

Are you also unspeccing the small node that leads to it? If so, what does that one give?

[dawn spire]

It applies to any damage. Tho without seeing context for what it's for, I can't really say more. Where is this stat coming from?

[lone berry]

ming's heart

[dawn spire]

Yeah it's all damage you do

[restive crest]

anyone has some decent advice on a build for either witch or stormweaver that I could use to carry people through content (up to 5ppl part if possible) like maps, bosses and trials that hasn't been nerfed that isn't gonna get nuked by GGG?

I am looking to help people (for free) so my goal is party up and help

[dawn spire]

They said that they're not gonna nuke builds between economy resets, so I wouldn't worry about that.

And as for carrying, what do you mean exactly? Campaign rushing? Boss killing?

I'd check out snapow's channel on YouTube. He makes a lot of builds for insane party play combos. You could play one of the support builds and turn everyone else into their own carry, potentially. I'm not sure what he's cooked up for poe2 that hasn't been nerfed already

[lone berry]

budget i mean

[carmine schooner]

I don't suppose there is a way right now to share character setup easily (like pobb) in order to ask for advice?

[cosmic basin]

yeah that was it

[tender needle]

Its really either spark or some herald/howa build. If ur gonna take leechers into high tier maps u need a build that instantly screen-wipes so they dont die every map

If ur just helping people in campaign/ascendancy, play whatever makes u happy/lets u kill ascendancy bosses

[floral helm]

I'm in the middle of getting pieces for a new build, and the damn trading website goes down n_n sadge

[mint meadow]

what build were you on and whatre u going to

[floral helm]

Gemling piller of the caged god, It was great and did work but my God was it mind numbing.

No I'm going to one that literally doesn't have a name because I haven't given it one. But it's basically dual wielding two-hand maces, using molten blast and poison.

I did a test on my alt character with it and it seemed like a lot of fun and actually worth trying out on my main

[tulip fog]

man, grim feast is OP, i just cleared first trial of sekhema with only this much damage to my honour, all thanks to grim feast, any damage i took to my ES when it was overcharged did not damage my Honour value

im a close/mid range caster with slow movespeed too and basically no honour resistance either

[narrow ermine]

When is the "of damage as extra damage" applied? For example this skill:

https://share.noobsdesroobs.net/PathOfExileSteam_BHEVjm62NR.png

[mint meadow]

molten blast and poison havent heard of that one yet sounds like itll be fun. Going Titan?

[floral helm]

Is Titan a class? Sorry I'm a bit of a noob that's kind of a dumb question. I just know Giants blood is the skill point for dual wielding two handers.

But no I'm literally changing my gemling to this build. And from what I've played of it it is quite fun. And because of some alterations I've done along the way it's a lot less squishy than when I first tested it.

It makes the cast speed of molten blast long enough for me to make a cup of ramen before throwing it. But so far it just deletes whatever it touches. But I haven't actually tested it on like Pinnacle bosses or anything

[sturdy hedge]

Titan = Warrior Asc

[floral helm]

Oh okay, no I'm gemling legionnaire

And I'm also using this, which is what makes pretty much the whole thing viable for my gemling.

I just need literally all of the strength under the sun.

Unfortunately it's also the reason why with around 500 strength I still only have about 1,300 life

Because all of my strength is going directly into my molten blast

[sturdy hedge]

when u have the currency u can switch to a grand regalia with 5% inc attributes

that would inc your stats further more

and since the fragments are getting cheaper grand regalia prices might as well come down a little as well

[jade violet]

does anyone know if visceral or volant quivers are better for poison gas ranger builds using Feathered Fletchings (Projectile speed modifiers also add damage)?
i assume critical isn't as important as the speed modifier for damage?

[blazing ruin]

https://youtu.be/AZ1e36ejj8c?si=eW0Mmqn5amcQkpS3

Soloing a 6man party Tier 18 map with breach and map boss!

[wet swift]

Can anyone help - why am I unable to calculate the energy shield total of 423 (is there a bug, or is my maths incredibly bad).

[hushed umbra]

Where can I find any information on Pob2?
I can't seem to find anything but Pob(1) community fork github.

[tulip fog]

man, i thought this would add 20% on top of the max amount of exposure i could inflict, it did not, instead it adds 20% to each tick of exposure i inflict, which for incinerate means i reach max exposure on an enemy incredibly quick, like 3 ticks of damage

that means the highest exposure i can inflict is like 87.5% or something

if i get all the increased exposure effect nodes

[vast plaza]

If a skill converts 50% of physical damage to lightning damage and I have the notable passive that make lightning damage lucky, how does the crit chance work? does the game roll for critical hit for each damage types?

[tulip fog]

101 base ES, plus 71, then multiply with (85 + 20=105%= x2.05) and you get 352.6 ES, same as the helmet you have in the screenshot

if you want to calculate the extra 423 you just add another 20% to the parenthesis calculation

so it becomes

(85 + 20 = 105% x 1.2 = 2.46 (this since the 20% from armour quality is multiplicative)
this equals out to 423.12 ES

[wet swift]

Thank you for your help. This is taken from the trade site, and shows as a helmet that has 423 ES in the search parameters. Where has the second 20% come from? Am I missing something

[gaunt verge]

what is thorns damage, is it a good stat?

[analog drum]

So for a raging spirit,fortress fire wall witch would cast on minion death or grim feast be better

[tulip fog]

the number listed below in the corner is from armour quality, which is multiplicative with the rest of the modifiers

[tulip fog]

no, its a very lackluster damage stat until we unlock more classes

that has support for the stat

[jade violet]

yeah I get 70% exposure on frost bomb with just this node and something else

[wet swift]

I see, I specifically did a search with 0 quality. So assumed that this wouldn't come into the calculation. I'm guessing the trade site shows the potential it can reach then

[jade violet]

it's like a cheap, instant hypothermia curse

20% frost bomb

that's right

[analog drum]

Pretty sure the raging spirit would count as minion death but ik grim feast is good

[jade violet]

raging spirit needs infernal legion to die

[dawn spire]

Has anyone tested full thorns mode yet tho? Uniques to make more damage thorns-able, adding base crit to thorns, etc?

[tulip fog]

yes, the number in the corner is the potential of what it can achieve with 20% quality since its not corrupted, if you had looked at a corrupted item this number would not show

[tulip fog]

yes mathil did

[dawn spire]

Ah, damn.

[tulip fog]

he said it was pain

[dawn spire]

I still had hope

[analog drum]

Ohh ok Hmm so maybe cast on ignite

[tulip fog]

he said it works, though barely and even then its a massive pain

[analog drum]

Because fire wall ignites everything

[tulip fog]

he should have a video on his channel about it if you look on youtube

[dawn spire]

Cast on ignite energy generation scales with the magnitude of the ignite now. So flame wall will give barely any energy

Unless you're scaling it, which is doubtful

[heady garnet]

anyone got a KB wander for poe2?

[analog drum]

I'll just go grim feast then

[dawn spire]

There are no wand attacks in poe2

[analog drum]

It's a good one to grab

[heady garnet]

poe1 confirmed to be superior then

[dawn spire]

Indeed

[tulip fog]

man i wish i could have an additional beam or wider cone for incinerate

i guess that might come with a future support gem (one can at least hope)

[dawn spire]

I'm trying to find some way to make a build out of those boots that leave burning ground where you walk. I'm in ssf so uniques will be limited.

I'm thinking some kind of stampede or shield charger. It's very up in the air rn.

[dawn spire]

Does magnified effect not widen the cone?

Oh, probly just lengthens it

Nvm

Maybe corrupting cry + shield charge? Use a scepter and a shield and have none of my damage actually scale with my weapon

[floral helm]

Okay I have quadruple checked my math on this one. Can anybody give me some information on why I'm not able to equip these maces please?

The things I've done to try and fix this are remove the point from Giants blood, unequip all the gear. Exit game entirely, load back in equip all of it again except the weapons, and it still will not let me equip them.

[dawn spire]

You got giant's blood?

[floral helm]

Yes

[dawn spire]

O, I should read. Sorry

You can't use it even without giant's blood?

[floral helm]

Actually I haven't tried to equip them without Giants blood. One second I'll check

[glossy beacon]

Is frag round merc viable?

[merry bone]

define viable

[dawn spire]

Even with giant's blood you should meet the requirements if my math is right

[glossy beacon]

Like I can make a build centered around using the shotgun that works late game

[floral helm]

Yeah I've checked my math so many times

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot your whole inventory/equipment screen?

[glossy beacon]

Idrk anything, never played POE1 and just started playing about an hour ago lol

[merry bone]

sure - every skill is viable

[merry bone]

Then it doesnt matter - just play whats fun. There is a bunch still to learn before you try and optimize all of the fun out of it

[dawn spire]

So what you're saying is that you don't even know what the difference between viable and not viable is, so why ask? I'm legit curious. Would us telling you yes/no actually give you any information?

[glossy beacon]

Cause I don’t want to invest time in a build that won’t* do any damage later on (made that mistake with Druid in Diablo 4)

[merry bone]

if you get there - you respec

[floral helm]

Okay I took out the point of Giants blood, I was able to equip one of the two messes. And then I put a point back into it and when I clicked save this came up.

So somebody at GGG needs to learn how to math. As much as I love them... Somebody's math is off

[dawn spire]

Gotcha. Ty. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be snarky or anything, I just see that question a lot and I wanted to know what people expect to get out of an answer.

Also, the game is in its infancy and it seems like any skill can do well if you build around it properly. And if you want to swap, it's very easy.

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot the second mace?

[floral helm]

Yeah I can but they're pretty much identical one just has an extra socket

[tulip fog]

indeed, only increases the length by a small amount

[glossy beacon]

Heard ty. Hopefully respec isn’t annoying if this doesn’t feel satisfying lol

[dawn spire]

If you want, you can just share the str, int, and dex reqs

[dawn spire]

It's really not. Respeccing is so easy now

[floral helm]

It's literally the same as the other one

As far as requirements

[dawn spire]

But it gives you 16 str

So without it you lack the str to equip it

[floral helm]

But that's not the one I have equipped I have the one without strength equipped

I'm not. That's not part of this math equation. I'm running a gemling legionnaire stats are not an issue

[dawn spire]

Try removing giant's blood, equipping the +16 str one, and then the other one

Oh

[merry bone]

My guess is Giants Blood isnt recognizing the requirement shift from the soul core

?

[floral helm]

I mean maybe my RPG knowledge is off but you want the weapon with higher damage in your main hand correct?

That's a legit question because I haven't been playing POE except since early access started.

But I know that kind of thing mattered in WoW

[floral helm]

That legitimately could be what's happening, but that math is off as well so I really am not sure.

[livid flume]

how much resist do mobs/bosses have

[floral helm]

It's either the soul core isn't moving a full 20% of stat requirements to dexterity.

I mean I I don't have the fortitude mentally to do all of that equation. But my wild guess is it is allocating something like closer to 15% instead of 20.

[dawn spire]

That 534 str you posted, is that with or without weapons equipped?

[floral helm]

That's without weapons equipped

[shrewd jungle]

guys, best ways in sorc/witch tree to get more dps at 86 lvl ?

there are hardly any spell damage nodes

;_;

[dawn spire]

Better weapon, more support sockets, gem quality, meta gems, etc

[merry bone]

Crit, Cast speed, AOE, Specific Dmg type nodes

[shrewd jungle]

eh, sounds like hard brick then

[merry bone]

huh?

[shrewd jungle]

cast speed doesnt matter on autocasting builds

[merry bone]

you gave 0 info about your build - just asked a general question - now gonna have combacks on general responses?

[shrewd jungle]

well yes, i was just wondering if there is something except for more ailment or spell dmg that im just too stupid to see

i have all crit chance and crit dmg nodes

i tested nodes for more lightning damage but its about +3% dps per 2 nodes

xdd

unless all elemental and spell damages are in single bucket that makes no sense

because i have 0 explicit lightning damage in my build

[floral helm]

Thanks for your assistance guys!

[merry bone]

what was it?

[shrewd jungle]

not too m any uniques on you xd ?

[floral helm]

Oh no not at all, I just need to replace my gloves since a tax speed doesn't literally anything for the main ability I'm using.

They were just the gloves I have on me at the moment

And yeah as for the fix I just needed another 40 strength. I'm pretty sure the stat allocation soul gem is only 15% instead of 20

I'm just too lazy to math right now XD

[eternal marlin]

hi, i just got howa do i make a monk or deadeye? which one is better/easier to gear and play

[shrewd jungle]

what about your resistances

unioques usually dont have those (in good amount)

[floral helm]

Those are covered by my rings necklaces and corruption enchants on jewels

[forest mantle]

Making a new character any suggestions for builds open to any

[lilac kite]

monk

use a staff

[merry bone]

what have you played already? What did you like/dislike? SSF/Trade? Are you rich already?

[gaunt verge]

does critical hit chance affect spells?

[merry bone]

if it doesnt specifically say "to attacks" or isnt local to a martial weapon

[forest mantle]

@merry bone I have infernalist witch build it was fun through campaign haven’t had fun in maps

[gaunt verge]

so something like this works on spells

correct?

[merry bone]

yep

[gaunt verge]

ty

[floral helm]

You could always take that and adjust it to hexblast. It's quite fun and the clear is better than using fire currently without some janky ricochet stuff

[shrewd jungle]

why

[forest mantle]

@floral helm Do you have a build guide link? I’ve specked into demon form with max demon flame of 10 and that’s where I feel I screwed myself on adjusting the ascendancy

[merry bone]

well in maps you eventually need to get away from the cap of 10 stacks - and build other ways to offset the loss so you can get higher stacks. Leveling 10 stacks is fine but maps you need to scale

[floral helm]

Oh yeah one moment I think I have it saved

[old shuttle]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/5dda85a9-13a2-47dd-81ed-52192b06d8d9/builds/b4248a62-8a35-4f1a-8608-63d96017a3ca anything massive im missing for my sockets and maybe skills

[merry bone]

THat said if you want something different - Quarterstaff Monk (level ice strike IMO - then swap flurry at higher level). Or Pathfinder Concoction - Poison is really smooth leveling, but im partial to Shattering

[floral helm]

This one might be a tiny bit outdated but I'm sure they've posted something more recently.

I just haven't played my witch in a bit so this is the one you get XD

https://youtu.be/uqc6z4qnutY?si=ikyaYcxcYnRDdJrK

[forest mantle]

@floral helm Thanks man appreciate it I’ll try that!

[old shuttle]

ai art yuck

[forest mantle]

@floral helm I really wanted to do the minion build but I messed up my ascendancy for that lol 😂

[merry bone]

you can respec points within the ascendancy - just cant change ascendancies

since you are infernalist - just swap the points

[orchid acorn]

As a Witch Hunter Explosive Bolt build... Do I wanna get rid of armor and focus exclusively on Evasion?

[viral sage]

does 'resolute technique' passive also prevent skill sunder armor break from critical damage?

[mossy galleon]

where in tarnation is that POB 2

[merry bone]

Local Identity had a birthday - and then a huge patch that would have made it immediately out of date

[thorny token]

yes

[light raft]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1i3k0ki/path_of_building_for_poe_2_coming_in_an_hour/

[mossy galleon]

oh wow I've been refreshing his twitter and the second I stop he makes a tweet

let's go

[merry bone]

and with it all the fun exploration we've seen over the last month will die

[mossy galleon]

that was already dead, the meta seems fairly settled

or imo PoB allows for much easier theorycrafting

hence why I am looking forward to it- not to optimize a character but to easily see what the numbers on a concept would look like without dragging it through acts

[merry bone]

people are coming up with new shit every day and finding interactions. PoB escalates the timeline of that at an exponential level - and its all gone. POB did it to POE1 - and will do it to POE2. Its inevitable.

[mossy galleon]

I guess it depends on how closely you follow build/meta discussion. I don't much so PoB is mostly for me to test more stuff out myself

[merry bone]

Right - literally making my point. Instead of you going and PLAYING the game, and experiencing what the build feels like and scales with - you just sit there and run 100 permutations. Thus removing all of the fun exploration. because its an optimized task and checklist.

Heralds chaining off one another - Something that from a POB perspective - would have been a no no, because you actively need to reduce the dps of your Heralds by supporting them with gems that drop their dmg, but force the chains.

We learned it from playing with it - and realized it was worth it - even though sheet dps would tell a very different story

[light raft]

POB is perfect to avoid spending Div on item that was not an upgrade

[merry bone]

math does that for you too though

its all good - its inevitable. Gamers will always look to optimize the fun out of everything we do. Its just who we are

[light raft]

im a gamer dad so for me it is a + for saving time

but i understand your point

[potent trout]

is "Gain XX Life per Enemy Killed" life leech?

[merry bone]

no

[halcyon solar]

it does exactly what is says?

[static thicket]

Even if not optimal. Anyone have a good idea of what skill I could use to trigger a coc hexblast build? Big fan of coc stuff and having trouble deciding. The new original sin might make it a lot easier to build around as well.

[merry bone]

eye of winter then

[static thicket]

Oh yeah huh that would probably be the best

[merry bone]

Id say cold or phys spells because of the base crit for scaling purposes

blood mage makes more things viable - but you can just use those 2 points elsewhere

Fire ball - Scattershot - wildshards generates alot of hits

[static thicket]

Yeah I've been doing blood mage stuff, the problem is it's so hard to maintain health and mana without using the convert hp to es helm and the instant leech gloves which is what I'm burned out on currently.

Leaning more towards monk something or sorc but idk yet. Maybe pob will help me plan it out better.

[wind agate]

are there any good demon form witch concepts out there

really want to try that

[merry bone]

loads of them - maxroll/mobalytics/youtube

[static thicket]

Hexblast infernalist seems to be a favorite.

[wicked leaf]

Hey, is there a way to get around the fire damage from enemies for decompose? or is it just scuffed?

[potent trout]

for context
i wanted to get as much "life leech" to use this as defensive layer
https://i.imgur.com/1rFDBJ5.png

maybe killing enemies and healing on them counts as life leech too

[wicked leaf]

not enough sources of life leech

[potent trout]

not worth the investment you say?

[wicked leaf]

not from what I've seen

[thin basin]

theres only 3 leech sources and one of them is tied to an ascendancy

[potent trout]

oh im a melee warrior trying to get this into my system

more reasons not to huh?

[thin basin]

then your only leech source is weapon

and ring/glove

[potent trout]

https://i.imgur.com/4bqVg0K.png
and this?

aight

[thin basin]

but itll only be phys

[wicked leaf]

yeah it's only for the physical damage

so maybe like auto attack with a high phys weapon?

[potent trout]

hmm
really wanted to see how this works with boneshatter and HOA
i really dislike going energyshield
am too close to get it to recharge

[wicked leaf]

hoa?

[potent trout]

herald of ash

[wicked leaf]

it doesn't work with hoa, that's not phys

might work with boneshatter if the weapon is just phys

[potent trout]

just high phys

do i waste 1 divine just for curiosity

[wicked leaf]

idk, up to you

[potent trout]

the aftershocks boneshatter creates are still phys?

ye

hmm might go for it for science

[sonic pollen]

does the charged staff attacks count as projectiles?

[daring bobcat]

it'll say on the attack if it's a projectile

[dawn spire]

Check the skill tags on the gem. Should be near the top

[graceful quarry]

Got from the cauldron lady in a3. Worth corrupting?

Or will that fuck it up?

[daring bobcat]

Let whoever buys it quality + corrupt it

[sonic pollen]

oh ok thank you.... it does not

[green canopy]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/wh40f0wy
Good build for mapping or no????

I’m on witch and looking for a good mapping build to switch to after campaign an this looks good and cheap and brain dead

Any thoughts???

[tidal copper]

have you read the notes?
it says it was abusing a bug
the video has an update if you still like it go for it hexblast is great

[trail cypress]

Hi Guys,
I am starting PoE 2 for first time. Have played PoE 1 seasons last year.
Wanted to know what's the best or most OP build right now? I am looking to start with a build which could help make game a little easier.

I researched and see people referring Infernalist minions as one of the best builds. Is this good? Better than Lightning Arrow or Stormweaver?

[candid hollow]

does zealots oath work if life is reserved

[jaunty flame]

stormweaver archmage

[undone peak]

yes

[tidal copper]

the best build is an attribute stacker imo and im partial to "one mana lefts" version

[undone peak]

the most overpowered build is probably pillar howa gemling legionaire but it is not able to be league started as its extremely expensive and relies on certain expensive uniques

best league starter is probably spark stormweaver if you want to just play one character (not reroll), but if you plan to reroll then it is maybe LA deadeye...

[astral badger]

Now that we can swap runes I have a potentially stupid question: Im running a cryoshock sorc w/ MoM/EB/CI. I have 4900 mana, with nearly all of that on my gear from mana and energy shield boosts. I am trying to hit 5000 mana as easily as possible, and my gear is so specific that it would be ideal to not switch any pieces right now. My chest armor has 2 iron runes and with the 40% from that I have like 650-something ES on it: Is there a way for me to tell whether 2 '2% increased mana' soul cores would boost me to 5000 before slotting them?

[undone peak]

easiest way is wait for PoB to get released today i guess lol

[tidal copper]

yes math
also PoB is realising inlike 1 hour

[astral badger]

Oh yes that's right! Im a POE noob so fill me in: Is that something I can connect my account to and it'll recognize my build? Or do I have to re-build my build in POB?

I come from the Destiny world where we had Destiny Item Manager, in which we logged in with our Bungie Account and could work with our gear directly.

[tidal copper]

Yes it manages calculates DPS correctly for the most part, finds equipment its pretty, it got me a wife

[undone peak]

im guessing you won't be able to import characters on launch, because i dont think that api exists yet on GGG's end

so i suppose we'll have to do our passive trees manually and copy and paste gear from game into PoB one by one

in PoE 1 you could import characters, but we can also view PoE 1 characters of accounts on the website yet we cannot do that yet in POE 2

[astral badger]

Got it. I don't mind doing that once I figure it out. Good to know.

[undone peak]

you can hover your mouse cursor over a piece of gear and ctrl+C to copy the text of it though

[tidal copper]

oh yeah equipment is easy to do

[undone peak]

and PoB will let you ctrl+v to paste in the gear in the items tab

[tidal copper]

anywhere really

[undone peak]

which speeds up the manual import process a LOT

[astral badger]

It's basically down to: Is 40% increased ES or 4% increased max mana better for my overall mana amount

Great tips ty both

[clear kraken]

Soo... I played PoE1, with a build, made me realize how little I knew about builds for PoE2 and I might restart with a new character.

In this game

Like, I didn't knew about trying to get Life Up passives on the tree

Nor to focus on getting passives based on the skill you wanna focus on.

[undone peak]

You didn't think to pick passive skills that improve the output of the skill you're using?

[clear kraken]

Like, if you wanna focus on using a grenade build for Mercenary, focus on AoE, fire and poison.

[clear kraken]

No, I didn't in my first playthrough I didn't

Just got told to pick stuff to make you survive longer.

And I thought "Oh, get a mix of damage and defense, right?"

Apparently not in this game

Just like SMT games, defense is nothing, it's all about HP up stuff and getting stuff that ups your skill. Wanna go physical? Focus on strength. Wanna exploit weaknesses? Get Magic

[undone peak]

I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying you were playing a lightning skill and picking nodes that increased your fire damage or something, but you're saying you were investing into defense early on when it is better to invest entirely into offense.

[carmine flicker]

only defence worth investing for is ES anyway, so w/e

[clear kraken]

Here's the thing, I started Mercenary, there's 2 nodes, have no idea what to build myself. I go and start building myself on both nodes rather than the one that gives damage and I'm here now going "Oh, that sucks, actually." After running PoE1 with a Tornado Inquisitor build.

[undone peak]

what you experienced is the fact that merc sucks as a league starter

class just doesn't quite have the juice

[clear kraken]

Oh, soo... wait for buffs?

[mossy galleon]

No, it's good once you get the ball rolling

[clear kraken]

I'm expecting Templar to be as cool as in PoE1 now.

[final fiber]

Does Icebreaker and Eldritch Battery work (like does IB use pre-EB shield or does that mean that IB gives 0 benefit?)

[dawn spire]

??? Lightning rod + orb of storms with merc does the campaign just fine. What does this have to do with the merc class?

[mossy galleon]

EB means 0 max energy shield

so Icebreaker would have no benefit

[final fiber]

Damn lo

[undone peak]

new players wont know or think to do that setup

realistically they're playing grenades

[clear kraken]

When I started to focus my Merc to use grenades only and stop trying every single weapon in it's set, just basic shotgun + grenades, Merc was starting to feel nutty.

[undone peak]

but also i ask why would you play a merc as a league starter if you're just going to build it as a ranger but start in a worse spot lol

what is the upside haha

just pick ranger

[clear kraken]

Because it's cool?

[undone peak]

imo merc is a 2nd character choice

once you have howa

[clear kraken]

I just wanna shoot things with a shotgun.

[undone peak]

yeah u can make it work just fine (plenty of people have) but it just doesn't excel at quite literally anything as a league starter

it's S tier at nothing

[clear kraken]

I guess, I have no idea rly, I'm new, don't even have stash tabs

[undone peak]

I'm not even sure it's A tier at anything

what does grenade merc have that's A tier in campaign lol

[clear kraken]

Merc is like the Bard in D&D, right? Can do everything but not perfect at something.

[undone peak]

clearspeed, survivability, single target, etc

[clear kraken]

Just a jack of all trades master of none.

[undone peak]

jack of all trades master of none is spark stormweaver for league starters lol

S tier clearspeed, S tier survivability, A or S tier single target

well it's not quite that high for campaign to be fair

[clear kraken]

Why you worry about tierlists? Just play what you wanna play and have fun.

[undone peak]

more like A tier clear, C tier survivability, B tier single target for campaign but in endgame it is nuts

it's a build planning discussion forum so inherently there's subjective opinions about what is best

[clear kraken]

True

[undone peak]

planning implies trying to make your character as strong as possible

[clear kraken]

I'm more the kind of guy who thinks every class is the best and just pick anything you want to play and what skills you wanna focus on.

So it might just be me

But yeah, this felt rly similar to Shin Megami Tensei after understanding how it works. Because those games are the same way, kinda.

It more wants you exploiting enemy weaknesses and doing crits frequently while buffing and debuffing constantly.

[marsh river]

was more loot in patch notes?

[undone peak]

yeah, effectively more loot in maps

[marsh river]

yeah its noticable

[viral kayak]

What stats should I look out for in waystones?

[marsh river]

whatever you need?

[undone peak]

look out for in terms of rewards (upsides) or dangerous mods to avoid (downside)?

[viral kayak]

Rewards

I want to get more waystones in higher tiers

[undone peak]

quantity

oh if u want waystone sustain

then you care about suffixes

rewards = prefixes

dangerous mods = suffixes, but also these suffixes increase the waystone drop chance of the waystone

this number is entirely determined by the suffixes on the waystone

[viral kayak]

I have one with 570% I guess that is good

[undone peak]

as for prefixes, increased item quant is best by far, but also good is anything that adds more monsters to the map

[ashen copper]

can you use quality upgrade items on corruped items?

[viral kayak]

Oh okay, so increase pack size would be good

Thank you sir 🎩

[undone peak]

it'd be shorter to list which prefixes are bad. basically increase gold is bad and increased amount of chests isn't particularly good

every other prefix is at least decent

for waystone sustain, it's about atlas passives, nodes with bosses, and getting as many suffixes on the map as u can

and not dying...

[viral kayak]

I never die

[shut rose]

Okay dear poe pros - I need a advice for picking the right person/writer for a arsonists witch guide. Someone of that 'look my guide is the best' YouTubers guides? I'm to New in PoE to have a good idea what's really worth etc

[dawn spire]

Then I'd suggest telling them they're not beholden to crossbows and grenades. I really dislike how much more poe2 seems to associate classes with builds and I've been doing my best to push against it. I think the builds people create get way more interesting and fun when people throw off the shackles of class archetypes

[undone peak]

yeah i just think that's idealistic view vs pragmatic

like i agree merc is much stronger if a new player levels it with the ranger setup instead of grenades, but realistically that's just not going to be what happens

[dawn spire]

This is sentence is my problem exactly. You said "ranger setup"

That just cements the archetype further

I'm really encouraging people to say "bow build" or "grenade build" instead of "warrior build" or "monk build"

[undone peak]

i think what you are getting at is that i shouldn't say "merc is bad for league starter" and instead say "grenade builds are bad as league starter" but i don't really agree still since i think there is no reason to roll merc regardless of which build archetype you choose

so the class is relevant, not just the weapon type

[marsh river]

does life+armour ever really start working?

plonked by fungus boss again, it just did one of his many brrr yellow things

[undone peak]

warrior i guess?