2┃build-planning

[safe trench]

I'm not enjoying that much keeping a button pressed and spam clicking dd

[unkempt trellis]

So its only viable if you go staff?

[west sierra]

kind of all builds be like that though

[upper viper]

I mean you can use the gloves for any lighthing/scaling build

[unkempt trellis]

was thinking on using xbow, but I never did a ES build

[upper viper]

I used it for a little bit on my witchunter with crossbow. For leveling, but i switched it out for more defence 🙂

[daring bobcat]

Max mana soul cores on small armor pieces, I think around 4k-4.5k is pretty much maxed until everlasting gaze gets switched out

[safe trench]

Minions are putting me a bit off I thought I could just use big spells and crit

To move onto another build

[wheat cape]

I'm trying to understand Widowhail and quiver bonus, I have 248% on widowhail, another 80% on the tree for a total of 328% but in reality im getting like 425% effect of bonuses on quiver

[daring bobcat]

248 * 0.8 + 248 = 446

[tawny kindle]

I play lighting which one to choose ?

[atomic halo]

invoker more likely

[drifting sail]

im running herald of ice alongside my shock ranger build. killing frozen enemies isnt activating shatter for some reason?

i get an effect called ice bite but is that the herald?

[atomic halo]

ice bite is not herald of ice

[primal sluice]

thanks! How do i survive without everlasting gaze tho? I tried, and with below 4k mana most of bosses 1shot me if i make a single mistake.

[drifting sail]

my herald of thunder is basically always active but i cant seem to get herald of ice to activate even when consistnetly freezing enemies

[wheat cape]

i think its just not as noticeable as herald of thunder, when u kill a frozen enemy there is a small explosion, try with it on/off see if you notice a difference

[drifting sail]

gotcha

also how do i claim a hideout i finally got one cleared on my maps

[wheat cape]

if you cleared it, it should be unlocked now. when you go to a waypoint look on the far side by the trial of chaos icon and u should have a new one for hideout

[daring bobcat]

I'm not there yet but I won't try to remove gaze until I find an amulet that bring me to 7k + max mana

[west sierra]

Look into elemental bleed

[primal sluice]

wow! i didnt know its possible!
Is it some unique?

[daring bobcat]

no it's a possible modifier from amulets. %increased max mana. there is also a unique ring that gives %increased max mana, idk if it's worth it

[primal sluice]

ah, i know the ring, but its like 50 div xD

[static thicket]

Has anyone experimented with bonestorm power charge stacker blood mage?

[primal sluice]

didnt know amulets can get %increased mana, need to look for that

[daring bobcat]

it'll probably be crazy expensive for a good one

[static thicket]

Can get quite a bit of crit dmg and consistent power charges using the power charge chest

[daring bobcat]

I'm stuck in money making for a while

[primal sluice]

ok just checked amulets just to know whats up

all amulets with mana % are stuck on 12%, which is not that much

there is ONE amulet on whole market with 24%, super lucky corrupt, but its 50divs xD

[daring bobcat]

yea but even consider it's 12% max mana vs gaze which is at most 30% mana has shield so it's not much worst and it increases dps. + the other potential modifiers can make it a lot better

[void barn]

How do you add quality to ascendency skills

[primal sluice]

Another question guys, can i electrocute bosses?

considering kitoko gloves for spark stormweaver

[thorny token]

you can

[primal sluice]

i`m at 80k spark DPS, BUT i also get instakilled if i get hit

but if i could get boss stunned for 5s, he`s dead xD

i`ll try it then 😄

[west sierra]

Is there any meta skill that can trigger attacks? I was dreaming about BI HotG, but life is cruel.

[primal sluice]

If spark doesnt normally chain, will that make it chain?
Does that make all spells chain?

[atomic halo]

all lightning skils

[primal sluice]

hmm i guess its good for clearing then

[visual raven]

Anyone know echoing frost node that gives 20% elemental damage if you’ve chilled an enemy recently, does freeze count as chilled?

I am freezing everything on command with icewall just not sure if that counts as chilled

[plain cloud]

Hey, how does ingenuity belt interact with conversion rings that convert a certain damage to another element/chaos damage, does it gain any boost in DPS or better to use a different belt ?

[atomic halo]

chill and freeze are separate

[static plinth]

Why would you stack, Bonestorm doesnt scale off how many you have like some Monk skills

[atomic halo]

if it's just convert, conversion above 100% will be scaled down to 100%.

[visual raven]

Does icewall chill or only freeze?

[static plinth]

Currently cant

[atomic halo]

so if you have 400% cold -> lightning, you dont get 4x damage, it just goes to 100%.

[mint citrus]

When does a 2% max mana soul core apply? Is it on top of my mana with items?

[wheat cape]

@daring bobcat still trying to figure out widowhail, i got another one with 250%. so 250 * 0.8 + 250 = 450, however my quiver has 27 dex, and when equipped it gives 116 dex. it appears the actual bonus is 429%

[atomic halo]

idk, look at the skill yourself

[atomic halo]

on top of your base flat mana, additive with other sources of inc. mana

[mint citrus]

What is my base flat mana considered? Sorry I'm a newbieeee

[atomic halo]

everything that grants + mana

on gear, inherently from levels, from intelligence

add that up and that's your base flat mana

[mint citrus]

Okay, what about the passive that converts my ES to mana

I think it's eldrich battery?

[atomic halo]

that adds flat mana equal to your flat energy shield

[hybrid ocean]

It's the sort of thing that seems obvious, but has anyone actually checked if elemental evocation can gain energy from inflicting ailments on yourself?

[daring bobcat]

Stuff usually gets rounded down

idk when or where things get calculated so I can't tell you for sure

[mint citrus]

Okay so the core would take that into account too, ty!

[static thicket]

Boots that give crit dmg+ nodes that give crit dmg if recently gained

[atomic halo]

250 + 80 = 330, 27 * 4.3 = 116

[static thicket]

It's only like 140% crit dmg but idk it might be worth trying if no one else has

[atomic halo]

"250 * 0.8 + 250 = 450" im not sure what this is supposed to be

you just add 250% from widowhail and 80% from the tree together

so the actual bonus is 430%, not 429%

[wheat cape]

ah thanks for the math

[daring bobcat]

isn't there an extra 100% there ?

[atomic halo]

the base 100% effect

easy to forget but quite important

otherwise you find that 100% increased effect = x1 = no effect at all!

[daring bobcat]

makes sense, I see 250 + 80 = 430 and I'm like ??

[primal sluice]

Okay guys, i think i am past initial farm, got a few items, got my mana to 3800, spark DPS to 80k.
I am clearing maps so fast i dont even slow down, only dying on bosses from time to time.

What is the next progress step? I never played POE before, so i dont know.
Do i just do maps with T15 (and ocasional T16) waystones over and over, or is there something more lucrative?
Rings i aim for are like 50 divs, and it took me a week to farm 5 xD

[atomic halo]

i guess "bonus is 430%" is the wrong way to phrase it

given that bonus describes the extra amount, so it would just be 330%

but the calculation is all sound

[atomic halo]

you're applying the 80% bonus from the tree to the bonus from the bow, instead of adding it as it affects the quiver. this would be correct if the tree said increased effect of bonuses from your bow, not quiver.

[atomic halo]

the atlas tree

have you gotten all your breach points? beaten arbiter at all diff levels?

[wheat cape]

yeah i got it now, thank you. I originally forgot to add the 100% and i was like ??? why is it more effective than it says

[primal sluice]

ah, i tried breachstone, but it costs like 50ex, and i get nothing for it xD
I need something to farm first

[atomic halo]

find a strat and go for it

looks like breach and ritual are strats right now

[primal sluice]

i did 5 breaches i think, and got a loot for total of 20 ex maybe

if i just sold those stones i would have 250 xD

[atomic halo]

you did 5 breachstones?

[primal sluice]

yeah, they take like 5 minutes

with a boss in the end

but he drops shit loot, no better than any normal map boss

[atomic halo]

he drops hand of wisdom and action

[primal sluice]

there is a place where i can put a breachstone next to my home node

[atomic halo]

multi div unique

[haughty dove]

Yeah think I am just going to buy 5 breach stones I know with breaches I will make the money back

[atomic halo]

anyway do the higher diff xeshts, upgrade your breach tree

[primal sluice]

unless there are better breaches or something ?

[atomic halo]

you can sell the stones if you dont want to run them

as all boss encounters they're gambles

[primal sluice]

i mean, if they are profitable, i will, maybe i was just unlucky

do i upgrade stones somehow?

[atomic halo]

by having more pts allocated in the breach part of the tree

that give + diff levels

although its still a gamble

[primal sluice]

ah, so if i added points, then next time i do it i have a chance for more points?

will try again then

[atomic halo]

yeah

if you hover over the tree ingame

you can see how to get more points

it's important to get pts in the tree so your in map breaches are better

[primal sluice]

ok, thanks, will invest in a few more stones then

hope i`ll get my money back xD

[tulip mural]

Can Anyone help here? Decompose boots not working, skill can’ be used it says

Lvl 66 boots and character

[wheat cape]

you dont use the skill yourself it just gets triggered by walking

[tulip mural]

Its not triggered at all

[wheat cape]

are there corpses nearby?

it needs corpses to function

[tulip mural]

I have skeletons

[wheat cape]

no like dead enemies

if you kill some stuff you will see it in action

[tulip mural]

No, should work from skeletons?

[wheat cape]

any corpse nearby will decompose when walking

doesnt matter what killed it, except if its shattered then it wont work

[tulip mural]

I will test in low lvl zone

Hmm. But it should work wit the summoned skeletons too

[static plinth]

Do you have Sacrifice turned on

[tulip mural]

No

[hasty tangle]

Have people tried elemental invocation Invoker?

[static plinth]

Then skeletons cant be decomposed

[waxen jewel]

How does distance work? If I shoot a lightning arrow at frozen enemy from 7m away, which then causes my Herald of Ice that's supported with Longshot to explode (attack) with it's effect another enemy. Does the Herald of Ice benefit from the Longshot?

Also does distance snapshot?

[tulip mural]

@static plinth on videos they can

[waxen jewel]

So even if I move after I shoot some projectile that shouldn't affect the distance between the skill and the enemy

[static plinth]

Yes, because they have Sacrifice

The spirit gem that makes skeletons work as corpses

[jovial blade]

does feathered fletching only affects bow's option?

[tulip mural]

@static plinth thanks!

Figured it out now..

[jovial blade]

"increases and reduction to projectile speed also apply to damage with bows"

[waxen jewel]

What do you mean with "bow's option"? Please clarify

[jovial blade]

Im not quite sure if it works with all projectile speed, or just bow's suffix

[jovial blade]

bow's option/suffix. what term do we use here? sorry new to poe

[hasty tangle]

I'm so interested in the Spells do more dmg with melee weapon nodes. But there are only like 4 or 5 of them, they seem perfect for Invoker though. Thoughts?

[waxen jewel]

We call those affixes (prefix or suffix) or sometimes modifiers.

It affects all skills that use the weapon

So projectile speed from quiver is useful for example

[jovial blade]

Ahh got it.

i'm just confused why it didnt increase the shown dps on my skill

[waxen jewel]

The point is just that you can't use that passive node with a wand or quarterstaff for example

Shown dps is not very good dps calculator

Don't rely on it too much

[jovial blade]

okay gotcha. tysm

btw, if i have 50% increased projectile speed, does that mean i should have 50% increased in my bow dmg ?

[tight timber]

Anyone online here

that can help me out with Gemling build at lvl 91

I cant beat bosses

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, but "50% increased bow dmg" does not mean your actual damage will be 50% more

[tight timber]

mobs are easy

[waxen jewel]

It adds up with all other +%increases stats

Like +%projectile damage or +%attack damage from your passive tree

[jovial blade]

do you think that node is good though?

[waxen jewel]

Yeah

If you can use weapon swap to your advantage, that bow passive cluster is very good candidate for your bow weapon set

[misty isle]

is there an optimal explosive grenade build for merc?

[minor tree]

Any thoughts on the upcoming tweaks to the painter gloves? +30% or so extra elemental damage seems quite good

[jaunty reef]

so for the maul that says This Weapon's Critical Hit Chance is 100%, does that mean that any damage you do while wielding the weapon is a guaranteed crit? or is it just skills that require a maul that get that bonus?

[minor tree]

Latter I'd imagine

[atomic halo]

attacks with that weapon

if you cast a spell it doesnt work

[stiff hinge]

oh. Thats handy.
TIL this works. (Quality actually does effect the skill, its a visual bug but the duration does change here)

[small light]

Hi everyone

As a new player, how is it that people come up with cool and interesting builds? I'm really puzzled about how to manage that in this game.
Is there any place where you can see a list of all of the support gems or notable skills in the game easily?

It feels like the game hides a lot of info from me, so its hard to "know what I dont know" if that makes sense

[pseudo junco]

For the support gem that gives you 12% more damage per elemental skill type recently used, would that includes spirit skills like the Heralds?

[atomic halo]

poe2db.tw

and poe2wiki.net

those are the 2 most important resources

[hollow galleon]

can u have mana leech on wands?

or on spell hits

[small light]

oh that link is really nice, thank you

wow its like the game, except I can actually see all the information

ty a lot @atomic halo

[atomic halo]

they're very useful, yeah

[small light]

yoooo it even has the notables

this is a godsend

what a nice resource

[static plinth]

Also a skill tree planner on Maxroll.gg or Poe2db

[small light]

Would there be any benefit to giving your minions charges? I see two things that seem to hint at that being useful

[static plinth]

Not in PoE2 so far

[small light]

Oh its probably not useful just yet huh
https://poe2db.tw/us/Lochtonial_Caress
https://poe2db.tw/us/Conduit

maybe for co-op

some kind of co-op support build?

[atomic halo]

allies like party members

its not for minions (yet)

[small light]

oh if it says allies it doesnt work on minions?

[atomic halo]

it does, im just pointing out those items are currently designed for use with party memebrs

[small light]

ah I get you, makes sense now

[grim sail]

what would be a good skill to add to a grenadier merc build?

[static plinth]

We'd need items from 1 like the Devourer of Minds for charges on minions to be worth

[small light]

man seeing this website feels like the veil of how the game works is lifted over my eyes, I can visualize builds now lol

[untold cipher]

Could someone help me with my build? I'm trying to go for double herald but I can't get the Herald of Ice to "Pop".

I got** Ice Bite, Glaciation and Cold Infusion** on my Thunder, ** Ice** has Innervate, Magnified Effect and Cold Penetration

[tawny kindle]

How to generate charged staff ?

[merry bone]

you arent doing enough dmg - get a new weapon

[untold cipher]

Herald of Thunder does Main Hand Cold Damage 460 - 1230 currently

[untold cipher]

I was told this is good 😄

[jaunty geode]

Any deadeye ranger who has advice on upgrades? 😄

[merry bone]

well you arent doing enough to consistently freeze and shatter - so its a dmg problem. Are you running Polcirkeln?

[untold cipher]

I tested with the Ring, no effects

[merry bone]

You have a planner?

[untold cipher]

I tried to follow Moxsy's Build

This is my Lightning Arrow's dmg currently

And here's Herald of Thunder

[mint mesa]

anybody got a good guide for hexblast blood mage?

[merry bone]

That bow is basically a 1 ex bow

[untold cipher]

1 ex?

[merry bone]

1 exalt

means its not a very good bow

Remember that heralds dont scale with the +3 proj skills - and they do weapon dmg. So while your LA is getting +3 to offset some of the low dmg of the bow - your heralds arent.

[untold cipher]

That part I knew ye

[small light]

is there any tutorials on damage conversion anywhere? Like why you would want to use it or how it works?

[merry bone]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Conversion

[mortal cloak]

Running POTCG Ice Strike Charged Staff build. Currently using Glaciation, Electrocute, Ice Bite and Cold Infusion on Herald of Thunder. Long Shot, Ele Focus, Cold Exposure and Strip Away on Herald of Ice. Conduction, Coursing Current, Persistance and Innvervate on Charged Staff. Concentrated Effect, Primal Armament, Martial Tempo and Lightning Infusion on Ice Strike. I also use Tempest Bell x2, Hand of Caluya and Staggering Palm. Are there any interactions I'm missing, wasting, etc...in my supports? The build basically just chain explosion/freezes 2 screens once Herald of Thunder and Ice proc together.

[small light]

dang this is complicated

[merry bone]

like 50 ex you double your phys dmg, which scales all the converted dmg.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/8eGKLBnfV

[untold cipher]

Should I look for max DPS or Physical DPS?

[merry bone]

You convert dmg - and then the dmg scales with the final dmg type. So you choose to convert becauase you want to do that dmg type and have found a good way to scale it or utilize it.

Only increases to the final dmg type impact your skills.

[merry bone]

id start with the link i sent you and sort based on your budget and other desiers

but if you want to chain heralds - you aint gonna do it with a 1ex bow

[untold cipher]

Yeah, I looked and put 1x Divine as max

[merry bone]

Not sure youll do it with 50 ex either honestly

dont search by divine

[untold cipher]

Okay?

[merry bone]

if you sort it by max price 1 divine - none of the ones being sold for exalts will show up....

whats your budget?

[untold cipher]

Pretty much 1 Divine

[chilly radish]

does temporalis not reduce the CD of ele discharge? I thought that it should work

[merry bone]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/Y6On4qksY

[untold cipher]

If stat has Increased Attack Speed, does it count on the DPS?

[merry bone]

it does

[untold cipher]

Okay thanks

So, this one should be good to go

[merry bone]

Double the Phys dmg of your current - and about a total dmg increase of 75%

[zinc sun]

The best minion infernalist now is it sniper or reavers?

[merry bone]

melee minions sort of meh - just too much collision. When they solve it, reavers gonna pop off.

Reavers are definitely good - just annoying

[leaden talon]

im doing 60k dps as a lightning arrow user at lvl 88, and it feels that im not dealing enough dmg considering a mate has 300k as a Stormweaver sorceress, any advice?

[merry bone]

DPS is irrelevant when comparing 2 different builds. There are more scaling vectors than the skill based dps.

[leaden talon]

got it but is 60k as a ranger ok or is it actually lacking?

[visual raven]

Am I blind or do no skills specifically say this

[atomic halo]

cold damage inherently can chill and freeze

i was asking if there was some clause on the skill that made it easier to do either or stopped it from doing either

[visual raven]

Gotcha thanks!

[atomic halo]

notably frost wall has 50% more freeze buildup

so that may mean it freezes a lot more easily

[dapper swallow]

is 180k dmg per combo for sunder build ideal? or is it supposed to be more?

[alpine acorn]

can anyone explain me how culling strike works on wind dancer? is it linke tempest just all the time?

[merry bone]

nah if you link Cull to Wind dancer - it only procs the cull if someone pops your wind dancer and it does dmg

[alpine acorn]

but the pop of wind dancer don´t do dmg right?

[merry bone]

yes it does

[brazen loom]

Sunder can do anything between nothing and millions per cast, all depends on build and budget.

[dapper swallow]

I see

[alpine acorn]

where?

[dapper swallow]

Then ill not pay mind as long as i dont get trouble progressing till I unlock all resources

[merry bone]

Gale Force is the effect it has when it breaks and knocks enemies back

[mortal cloak]

Running POTCG Ice Strike Charged Staff build. Currently using Glaciation, Electrocute, Ice Bite and Cold Infusion on Herald of Thunder. Long Shot, Ele Focus, Cold Exposure and Strip Away on Herald of Ice. Conduction, Coursing Current, Persistance and Innvervate on Charged Staff. Concentrated Effect, Primal Armament, Martial Tempo and Lightning Infusion on Ice Strike. I also use Tempest Bell x2, Hand of Caluya and Staggering Palm. Are there any interactions I'm missing, wasting, etc...in my supports? The build basically just chain explosion/freezes 2 screens once Herald of Thunder and Ice proc together.

[merry bone]

Click where it says Gale Force. Mine at level 15 does 98% weapon dmg. That is why Wind Dancer when it pops can proc things like Blind or Maim (or Cull) - because it does a HIT.

[merry bone]

Link a planner if you want people to disect every aspect of your build and set up - just 100x easier

[mortal cloak]

Don't super need all that, my passive tree and gear is all pretty optimized following some different guides and feedback, just trying to see support gems mainly now

[merry bone]

Those guides should have the set ups - as they will take into account other variations to the tree and gearing

Like all of those supports are good - but knowing if one of them could be swapped for A, B, C isnt really feasible without the rest of the puzzle at the stage you're at

[mortal cloak]

Nah because the guides and people I'm discussing with are mostly using different set ups for their actual skills but the gear/stats/passive tree I use is the same as them so it's hard to get feedback for some of my skill choices

like they're POTCG but they don't use ice strike or the heralds, they use tempest flurry and blink or cast on crit and stuff

haven't found anyone using quite the set up I am with heralds and charged staff, that I can directly get feedback from

[merry bone]

right - which is where a planner solves that issue. You are at the point where the answer is no longer general - its more specific to your actual gearing/setup. Truly not trying to give you a hard time - but we are in territory where you are already chain destorying multiple screen - so fine tuning means knowing the variables we can tune.

[mortal cloak]

Fair I get your point there's just not much in the passive/gear to mess with, it's typical POTCG melee stat stacker build

I'll go fill out the planner for the passive for ya rq tho

[rancid turtle]

On maxroll builds, on the passive tree, is red weapon set 1? or is green weapon set 1?

[merry bone]

Is your Ice strike only on a 5link?

[merry bone]

Not sure i understand the Ele focus on the Herald of Ice with the current Herald Feedback loop - feels like a missed opportunity to put Lightning Infusion on it and do even more chain clearing

[static valley]

Sorry I may have missed it, but what are the key attributes per gear piece for monks? If possible also ranked by importance?

[merry bone]

Huh?

[static valley]

Like what stats should I be looking out for in armour weapons trinkets

[static thicket]

What level do weapon skills get 4 link 5 link 6 link?

[merry bone]

depends on what build you are playing and the offensive and defensive layers. Typically Life / Resistance - enough attributes to use your skills. Rarity and damage mods.

If you are playing CI - forego life, and get more ES on pieces you can.

[merry bone]

Your charged staff should be doing enough lightning dmg that I dont think you need Lightning infusion on your Ice Strike. Would move that to Herald of Ice and get rid of Ele focus - so you get even more herald proccing going on

[mortal cloak]

none of my stuff is 5 link yet lol

[merry bone]

yea sorry man I meant like an actual planner link with your skills and stuff also - but already found some stuff above

[mortal cloak]

HOWA POTCG Morior and rares

[mortal cloak]

lightning infusion on ice strike is just because it's the biggest dmg increase I can find from support gem due to....

5th link for ice strike I would probably put the close range boost one? Not entirely sure yet

and also need a 5th for all my other stuff too, charged stuff, herald of ice and thunder

or maybe the one that lets you do the final hit a second time

[idle ridge]

@mortal cloak hi bro , need help , how’s this xbow for howa galvanic,

[mortal cloak]

idk anything about galv build bro D=

[half owl]

wow upping the res actually works, I'm dying less often now

[idle ridge]

Oh

[shrewd otter]

no astramentis GG

[mortal cloak]

I was grenade not lightning xbow

[idle ridge]

Thanks anyway 🙂

[mortal cloak]

fire grenade

[idle ridge]

Yeah but you were so knowledgeable i thought u might know this too xd

[shrewd otter]

jk get something like this

[untold cipher]

@merry bone Thank you, helped alot!

[mortal cloak]

let me see but my opinion could be totally incorrect

[untold cipher]

Still not proccing constantly but huge improvement

[idle ridge]

No worries, thanks

[mortal cloak]

@idle ridgeI mean that seems decent but idk how important flat lightning or crit chance are for that build or your specific version of it

or attack speed

oh and no attributes either

If that's for a HOWA lightning build probably not great tbh imo

[merry bone]

try the ring again if you can afford to give up one of your current ones

[idle ridge]

The problem is with phy and elemental dmg , like which one should be more important

[mortal cloak]

idk there might be some reason you do want flat fire I'm not aware of tho xD

[idle ridge]

Yeah it lacks many attributes

[untold cipher]

Yeah, will give it a try

[static valley]

Alright thanks! Sorry I couldn't be more specific since I'm still just starting out lol. but that's more or less the same even back in poe1.

[idle ridge]

Might be lol

[mortal cloak]

if you're lightning you want phys % and flat phys and lightning flat but flat fire isn't terrible

phys gets converted to lightning and lightning is lightning, a huge flat fire/cold isn't bad it just won't get as boosted as lightning would

but you also add in having chance to ignite/freeze etc...which you have to have from 1 slot for certain builds

like for my current POTCG I need some way to do fire dmg for igniting the bells, so I take 1 flat fire on one of my rings

[idle ridge]

Well i didn’t know that , thanks for info

I will check more and see which one will be best , need to finish build with the rest of currency i have left so need to be careful

[merry bone]

Yea unfortunately just 'monk' doesnt really mean much given you could be building a Fireball Archmage Monk for all i know 🙂

[idle ridge]

@mortal cloak thanks for the help as always, good night

[mortal cloak]

no problem

[small light]

I was wondering if the Physical damage from https://poe2db.tw/us/Plague_Bearer would work with https://poe2db.tw/us/Plaguefinger ?

plague bearer does identical physical damage along with its poison stored

would that increase the magnitude of the poison it inflicts, and charge up plague bearer again?

[merry bone]

should

but physical dmg already contributes to poison

so why would you need the gloves?

[small light]

I probably just dont get how poison works tbh

[merry bone]

Poison takes a % of the Physical & Chaos dmg of the hit - to generate a poison that does dmg over time. That dmg is Chaos Dmg. But Phys & Chaos portions of the hit contribute to the poison dmg.

Those gloves would be like if you want to use an Elemental skill to poison.

[small light]

ohhh I see

I'm trying to think of away to constantly explode plague bearer

[merry bone]

more poisons out all the time to stack it up faster

[small light]

aha

[merry bone]

The way Poison and PLague bearer works im not sure you could make it self sustain. Plague Nova does 100% of the stored poison dmg as physical. Then it Poisons - but Poisons only do 20% of the hit dmg as poison. Then Plague Bearer only stores 4% of the poison.

i guess enough monsters around and it could theoretically work

[thorny token]

you dont get any plague value back from poison from plague bearer itself. or at least i wasnt getting any when i was trying it

[small light]

ah

[merry bone]

that sounds like a bug (or missing part of the tooltip)

[thorny token]

its most likely intentional

[analog niche]

hey, wonderng why all the sorceress builds have cold passives? even when they are not cold builds

[thorny token]

as otherwise it would be super easy to just self sustain plague bearer

[small light]

this might not be build related, but I really have a hard time telling if something I own is junk or worth keeping, even my main gear

[merry bone]

they are doing cold dmg somewhere

[small light]

is there a hard and fast rule for this kind of thing

[merry bone]

Nope go to #1308715317375270952 read the price check thread - it will help you understand whats good

Life / Res / Rarity in high amounts obviously good

High DPS weapons

High Spell dmg caster weapons

Learning what builds people are utilizing primarily and how they are building helps immensely, because you start to identify mods that are useful.

[dull eagle]

how does recoup function when it comes to damage taken? It's hits only but is it only damage taken to life specifically, or does damage taken to ES also count for recoup effects? or mana if using mind over matter?

[merry bone]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Recoup

[small light]

should I even worry about my item stats at like level 30?

[merry bone]

The damaging hit will proc recoup regardless of which bucket it hits - but it will only recoup the specific resources the recoup states.

[merry bone]

bigger number, better at level 30

[edgy cedar]

what would be a good CoC setup for tempest flurry?

[haughty dove]

is there a ring that gives + to all attributes I am leveling a monk

[small light]

is there a place where its okay to post photos of your equipment to see if something is good?

[dull eagle]

makes sense, thanks. just wanted to make sure it was functioning how i thought it would, never touched recoup in poe1 lol

[static plinth]

Any rare ring

[haughty dove]

oh ok thank you I looked for the Golden Hoop in trade and I guess its not in the game

[static plinth]

Its not

Just a datamined base

[haughty dove]

good know so I wont bother looking for it thank you for the info

[merry bone]

Nah - price cehcking other peoples equipment is irritating af. I actually dont know of anywhere that actively allows it

[twilit ruin]

has to be the best time lost slot

is it possible to overlap and double lucky???

[small light]

ah good to know

yeah I dont wanna be annoying, just trying to understand stuff better lol

this game is complex

[merry bone]

Knowledge is power in POE - understanding how to value items is hugely important. The guide posted should do a good job of getting you the basics

[royal hamlet]

How to get leech?

[merry bone]

Virtually all of the leech is Physical Attack Dmg leech. Rings/Gloves/Supports/Weapon

Some uniques as well, and then Blood Mage ascendancy gives spell leech.

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Leech

[royal hamlet]

can I get mods for normal items ? or just uniques?

[spring prairie]

is int or cast speed typically a more expensive stat?

[merry bone]

no - not just uniques. You can roll Phys Attack Leech on Weapons/Rings/Gloves

[rocky pilot]

How do i add quality to weapon skills? i made this wand 20% quality but Bone blast didn't get any quality

[merry bone]

generally id say Cast speed because it can come on less overall gear slots

[merry bone]

pretty sure thats not working

[rocky pilot]

okay so just found out, it IS working! just doesn't show on the gem

switched to a new wand without 20% quality and my quality bonus was 100% missing

[fiery wave]

is any build using mixed damage like this?

[atomic halo]

not that i can think of

and not that the mixed damage there is very high there anyway

[fiery wave]

okay

i just went through my "to 'craft'" folder

i only played spellcaster so far lol

it looked like big number!

[pearl sluice]

Does anybody know a reliable ice strike monk guide to follow?

[eager gazelle]

Witch Hunter Grenades is dead? I can't find a decent build with both Life and Damage

Every single guide I have watch has around 2k Life and zDPS on map bosses

[sage tulip]

what would be the best items to put into sockets for the caged god ?

[small light]

do people usually pick 30% charms or 15% mana from the medallion?

[halcyon solar]

what's the effect of putting multiple waystones in a map?

[merry bone]

nothing doesnt work

[halcyon solar]

makes sense to have 4 slots then 😄

[merry bone]

future proofing

[haughty dove]

show I just got gas Grenade and explosive shot. I cant get the explosive shot to trigger not sure what I am doing wrong

[kind crest]

Do ballistas scale with elemental damage from main weapon?

[merry bone]

ive been corrected

[buoyant dawn]

To learn the game, I have been attempting to follow some guides however, i still seem to be stuck, i think it is just gear based but any suggestions for a Gemling Legionnaires build? I leveled with grenades, been trying to do an ailment gunslinger build but seem to hit a wall at t10ish

[wet mango]

Not flat, but the global mod sure

[wet mango]

Ballistas use their own weapon

[merry bone]

that is so fucking weird that it has built in dmg from "its own weapon" but then has attack dmg scaling as part of the skills it uses - youd think leveling it would just scale its "weapon"

[plain meteor]

Hello all!
If i were to set a meta gem on my secondary weapon set. Will it charge at all while using my primary set?

[kind crest]

It’s weird because I have one ballista with %elemental damage and it doesn’t seem to increase the dps when i equip it and check advanced info for artillery ballista

[viral crag]

2 lightning runes to overcap my res, or 2 iron runes as a mana/es/eva?

Currently at 55%, would put me to 79%

[silent echo]

Which stats should I be looking for in jewels as a lightning ranger

[shell hazel]

found it

[analog niche]

yo i am following this build for spark sorceress, and i am holding shift over passive runes for spell duration, but it says no skills are affected?

[plain meteor]

Hi all,
Is there a way to set a meta gem to charge on primary but use my secondary set? Or do i have to manually swap to activate it on preferred set

[remote narwhal]

Tbh you really don't need spell duration after a certain point.

And it's just to make spark last longer casted.

Anyways what's y'alls take on Titan using quarterstaff??

[thorny fractal]

anyone made maybe CWDT with barrier invocation?

i need help with it

can't loop

[remote narwhal]

Vaulting impact , discombobulate, armor break and armor explosion.

[remote narwhal]

Cwdt (don't know the abv)

[analog niche]

ahhh i see

[thorny fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxcm_kLyB_s sth like that

[stray island]

Needing some assistance w/ a monk build if anyone is available

[remote narwhal]

Ah ok

[analog niche]

another question: how does branching bolts increase clear speed on a sparks build? sparks doesn't even chain does it?

[stray island]

it does

[stray island]

You can greatly benefit from projectile count and speed

[small light]

does anyone know if Quill rain bow unique (+Arrow speed) works with the feathered fletching node (Increases to projectile speed also affect bow damage)?

[analog niche]

oh i see, thank you, just didn't see the keyword on it... so all lightning damage chains?

[stray island]

I'm not sure about all but shocks for sure

my first character is a shock build so im pretty familiar w/ it

[analog niche]

so the sparks itself does not chain but if it shocks then it chains?

[orchid acorn]

Hi, I wanna transition from HVC to Explosive Bolt + Shockburst (Witchunter). Anybody got a build for it? Preferably a league starter one, because I've seen either with ingenuity and howa or with rare items worth around 20d each

The Crossbow does not even exists lmao

[safe adder]

can someone recommend a new build for me to try? my favorite kinds of builds in poe1 are flicker, cwc cyclone, and wanders. ive spent most of my poe2 time so far playing ice strike monk and lightning crossbow merc.

maybe something caster-y as i have not made one of those yet

one of those super fast molten blast builds also looked kind of fun

[silver anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0CAIZn3C0

do that

or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCnW8OSUMMA

[torpid zephyr]

Which 3 gems for gas arrow Pathfinder? I've seen lots of different combos. I have snakebite gloves

[grim sail]

can u get the next acendecy points from doing trials in act 3? i have a lvl 66 djinn

[safe adder]

lol both of these look pretty fun but seem quite convoluted to get going and seem like the kinds of builds that dont really come together until level 80 or so

but the first one seems interesting, might try it out

[silver anvil]

First one is a lot easier to set up than the second one, yea

[livid flume]

im trying to incorporate that herald tech, but I'm not freezing... my average cold damage hit is ~5k

im trying in a juiced T15

how big of a hit do you need to start the 'chains'

[steady birch]

is critical hit chance computed to the skill dps?

[livid flume]

i have 0 crit

[steady birch]

i have my own question btw

[livid flume]

yeah it is

[safe adder]

i found a cool Gemling Molten Blast build that uses Hand of Wisdom and Action along with Olrovasara that seems pretty fun

has anyone ever tried anything like this before?

[manic iron]

Can you allocate corrupted amulets?

[orchid acorn]

Is a build based on HVR viable?

Feel like a thin straight line isnt much of an area

[dark pulsar]

No

Only with tainted currency which isn't in the game afaik

[atomic halo]

you mean instill? no

maybe in the future

[manic iron]

Yes.

[atomic halo]

if you're smart you buy "bricked" corrupt ammies with no anoints and wait for them to add corrupted emotions

... any minute now

[safe adder]

around how many exalts are 2 divs going for right now? i can't log in to check the trade guy right now and don't know anywhere to find the rates online

[steady birch]

what's better between this two? I don't know if i can trust the dps calculator on skill tab

[atomic halo]

they're quite similar as the dps display suggests

left has cast speed, right has % damage

damage as fire is mid asf but still makes a dent

i take left cuz more cast speed feels better

[steady birch]

man i hate that i can't just check out an item from poe2 trade and see how the calculation will react before wasting 10divs on it

[atomic halo]

wait a few days for pob2

[dark pulsar]

2 days

[steady birch]

that left wand is like 1div, i just bought the right one for 10div for nothing, literal waste

i thought it was better

[dark pulsar]

Yea that's not worth 10

But I sold similar ones for 5

Sone ppl prefer cast speed tho

[steady birch]

well assuming its just 5, i still wouldn't know till i saw the dps comparison, so in the end its a waste

[dark pulsar]

Right one should have more dps

[steady birch]

ive never used pob2, hopefully that fixes things (im new to poe)

[dark pulsar]

But probably not worth 9d difference

I wasted like 30d or so by now it doesn't really matter

[steady birch]

i still won't know because i have no clear indication, all i saw is huge difference in spell/lightning damage and 100% crit chance even, just for 30% cast speed

hope the game can just put a toggle to literally test equip poe trade

[dark pulsar]

Nah they don't want that

That's what pob is for

Eventually you know the game to a point where you can tell yourself

[viral crag]

Need help diagnosing 🤔
Why can I stand in the circle with all the ritual monsters and do just fine
But get deleted within 10 seconds after entering a breach?

[meager kayak]

i am a mage and my text said i committed suicide. i dont understand what i did to to do that to myself. what does a mage commit suicide in game? anyone know.

[steady birch]

prefire your spells or something, map effects also matter, probably more damage, your breach atlas also upgrade your breach

[viral crag]

I was more trying to figure out what my build might be missing that might make one deadly compared to the other being trivial.

[steady birch]

your flask has sacrifice 15% health

[viral crag]

Unless they are just that drastically different in damage that it's just normal.

[steady birch]

yeah, your map could have 30% resistance vs 350% more crit damage monster, 75% more hp, 60% res

it could literally change by the map mods that you have

[viral crag]

No, nothing like that. Even ground.

I'm not going to overlook that I'm dying regularly and somehow missing that I'm always slotting "huge critical/haste boost to monsters" on breach maps only.

[steady birch]

assuming map mods or breach atlas doesn't matter

yeah, gear or skill(5links) will make your dps double, or even triple

[dark pulsar]

Breach has way more mobs than ritual

[viral crag]

That's the only thing I can come up with, is that the breach monsters are a fast/constant stream.

[dark pulsar]

You may just get stunned easier

[viral crag]

Whereas ritual it seems like I may just get a breather every once in a while.

Was hoping it's not stun, not sure how to squeeze any more threshold into a caster build. Only so much Life I can put on my gear 😅

[meager kayak]

@steady birch where do you see that? i dont anything bad about the flask.

[steady birch]

your mana flask probably has sacrifice 15% hp for mana mod

that's the only thing i know you could suicide with

[dark pulsar]

Just get more dmg, it's the main defensive layer in PoE

More AoE

Atk speed etc

[viral crag]

Honest answer is that we're throwing darts at the wall without a clip, or a picture of your build/equipment/passives at the time it happened at a minimum.
There are ways for you to self-damage that could cause you to die, or get low enough hp that you die to something incidental and don't notice.

[viral crag]

Damage is there, but I'm playing chaos dot.

So only real fast damage option for me is to curse/hexblast everything in the room.

[dark pulsar]

Oh well then you need a good shield

[meager kayak]

@steady birch thanks my mana flash has that. guess i will find a different mana flask. health is 1 and shield is 0. mana is up!

[viral crag]

Honestly didn't think about that. Drop my focus and get a shield on... big str investment, but I've got some damage to spare.

[dark pulsar]

Something with 45% block chance or life on block

Would be worth trying

[viral crag]

Yeah, got the gold to respec. Won't really hurt to give it a go.

[charred hazel]

Who in here is poor and have howa on monk? How do you take advantage of stats etx

I do more dps with my old build than howa stat build with no unique belt or astramentis

[dark pulsar]

You need like 300 on all stats

As a minimum

You can also stack accuracy

For crazy atk speed

Falcon Dive gives 1% per 250

[halcyon solar]

After having killed the Breach and Ritual boss i still can't figure out Dilirium Fog

like in where it is moving etc

[winter vortex]

which armor parts give spell level/ lightning level?

[atomic halo]

ammy wand staff focus

[winter vortex]

ammy?

[atomic halo]

amulet

[winter vortex]

max additional levels I can get is +7?

[atomic halo]

wand goes to +5

amulet goes to +3

[winter vortex]

so.. azure amulet or should I go for amulet spell level+3?

[atomic halo]

if you're you can corrupt another +1 for each wand

[halcyon solar]

there's only +2 on amulets is it?

[atomic halo]

i just checked and there is most definetly +3 on ammies

[dark pulsar]

I wouldn't do levels tho, the items cost a lot and it ruins your mana

[atomic halo]

explicits are always more important than implicits

[halcyon solar]

i thought it only goes higher for witch stuff. fair

[winter vortex]

wdym

[dark pulsar]

Better scale crit, archmage or later energy blade

[atomic halo]

the actual mods

matter more than the base

also why do staves only go up to +7 all

when wands can go to +5

[dark pulsar]

2h

[atomic halo]

how are staves supposed to compete

[winter vortex]

whats focus max?

[atomic halo]

2

[dark pulsar]

2 probably

[remote narwhal]

You add chain In and fork and 3 nodes for chaining.

[pearl sluice]

Warbringer ascend passive to break armour by 10% of hit damage, isn't working with Sunder?

[remote narwhal]

I avoided warbringer.

[winter vortex]

what "+#"do you recommend to reach before focusing on mana?

[remote narwhal]

Titan ends up better long run.

U don't need fist of war, and u can use devastate to break armor on a stun.

I'm still working on my warrior so I can't say much myself

But I'm a quarter staff titan.

[winter vortex]

+6 is enough for lv 80?

[dark pulsar]

Mana isn't easy to fix

[remote narwhal]

Eh depends

What currency you have to work with

[dark pulsar]

Yea with mana on kill jewels for 1d each

+6 is definitely a lot of mana costs

Idk if it's worth it, need pob

[stone thistle]

is explosive shot or galvanic shard better for witchhunter?

i see builds for both

[remote narwhal]

Depends on if their spell or not

Spell 6+ is good

Everything else no.

[merry mesa]

Need some input on how to progress my build/gear, I posted a thread in build help
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328595090603773952

[dark pulsar]

I think every gem level just gives around 10% dmg

[remote narwhal]

That's still good on spells

Anything else it's dogshit

[dark pulsar]

Yea but like I said that gear is way more expensive

[remote narwhal]

I got lucky on my gear

[dark pulsar]

You can achieve similar dmg by scaling crit

[remote narwhal]

Spent 10 exalts

No rarity tho

Depends also on the skill

Sparks pretty versatile

Don't need much for crit.

[dark pulsar]

Yea I guess you scale mana anyway for archmage

But +5 wands and +3 amulets are crazy expensive

[remote narwhal]

I don't use a wand

Staff here

[stone thistle]

is it worth going 3 dragons with witchhunter if im going galvanic?

[remote narwhal]

Plus you can always go malagio for crt dmg if need be for a solid 300%

[merry bone]

gonna make your galvanic freeze and not shock

[stone thistle]

oh so i guess no, ive seen it with explosive shot

[remote narwhal]

He can take heavy ice on Amy tho

[stone thistle]

thing is i feel like explosive shot shoots too slowly and there's too much of a delay between shots

[merry bone]

So Explosive shot is so the fire dmg does shocks instead

[remote narwhal]

And get 50% more dmg outta it

[stone thistle]

which skill do you think is more optimal for endgame mapping?

[merry bone]

i had a blast on explosive shot personally - but seems like both should be fine - just decide which one you enjoy and lean into it

[winter vortex]

besides archmage, which other skill do I use GCP on?

[remote narwhal]

Yea, but if he wants 3 dragons I highly suggest heavy ice and heavy frost

If he's staying galv

Gah I meant thin ice not heavy ice

Heavy frost ignores elemental res on frozen and thin ice grants 50% more.

It's what does he want to lose at that point on points for them both.

But the latter is if u can get added fire dmg in with your dmg you can shock too then

[winged horizon]

Whats the best stats for a jewel for witch minion Inferno build?

[wintry meadow]

Just started first character which class do y'all recommend?

[remote narwhal]

New player to Poe or no

[wintry meadow]

Yea

[winter vortex]

how to get this?

[remote narwhal]

It's on a staff I believe

[winter vortex]

oh right!

[dark pulsar]

Monk, Mercenary or Sorceress

[winter vortex]

do I gemcutters spark?

[dark pulsar]

Yes

[winter vortex]

oh nice! more projectiles

[languid quartz]

Hey everyone, I'd like to play a stat stacking Flurry Invoker. What would be the best/most tested build guide to follow? No need for crit I think. Thanks!

[dark pulsar]

Probably this
https://youtu.be/__ULTQOiHUM?si=GO6wev0P5zu1apGq

[slate dove]

Anyone know witchhunter Merc well?

[charred hazel]

I was trying to do this. Im too poor for it. Haha..

Idk how to get 300 stats minimum

Then cap res

[languid quartz]

like it just doesnt work at all?

[charred hazel]

Its sht compared to my older build

I dont have the fancy jewels

Or ingenuity unique belt

Just howa

My staff is like 750dps i think so idk how to replace it with pillar of god and be worth it

[dark pulsar]

There's a budget version in the description

[teal verge]

where is a good place to farm lvl1 uncut spirit gems?

[mental ember]

Rate my lvl 23 build

[sturdy sable]

I present to you … the zero power charge highly accurate flicker build

😭😭😭

[tropic pelican]

Question: cast speed barely seems to make a difference w/ comet. Any way to reduce that “1 second” delay?

[sturdy sable]

No

[tropic pelican]

Haha

K worth a shot

[stray island]

Anyone know anything ab reapers invocation?

[tropic pelican]

So what does cast speed help w? Bc I do get off more comets w it

Just not a very significant amount more

[dark pulsar]

Comet isn't meant to be self cast

You put it on meta gems

[tropic pelican]

Can’t really figure that out so well. Running T16s pretty easily using it as my main method tho

W frost wall and then just huge aoe

And switching aoe support gem for damage for bosses

Having fun w it

But yeah annoying cast time

[light void]

I use this items, that help me use skill and items without the attribute requirments of int and dex, but I got a problem, I can't level up skill as I don't pass the requirment to learn it(but if I have skill I can use it), anyway I can fix this?

[dark pulsar]

You can compare it to my comet build https://youtu.be/NoX5IjI8oEA?si=KaU8mNIexTXOcBxs

[tropic pelican]

Cool thanks

I’ll watch

Oof you don’t die alot?

Looks like a glass cannon

[dark pulsar]

Nah

I played this to 92

[tropic pelican]

That life would sketch me out

I’m at lvl 91

[dark pulsar]

You barely get hit since you don't cast it

[tropic pelican]

I tried that method but mana hard to keep up

Potions guzzled etc

[dark pulsar]

Fireball is way faster and triggers more comets too

You need some mana on kill

[tropic pelican]

Yeah that was kinda my old build

Frostbolt doesn’t work to break frost walls?

Maybe w faster projectile speed

[dark pulsar]

Idk never tried frostwall

[sturdy sable]

Everything else better

[remote narwhal]

Hey anyone try impact shockwave on monk yet??

[tropic pelican]

Oh yeah should prob watch your whole vid haha

[sturdy sable]

Shorter the move the better cast speed is

[tropic pelican]

Colonial mystic focus

10 seconds max

Haha

Mystic meant to be a diff word

Not sure which anymore lol

How about lightning to trigger comets?

Spark

Maybe w cast on freeze w that funny helm that freezes on shock

[dark pulsar]

I don't like cast on freeze since the nerf

[tropic pelican]

When my build is working well I don’t really like fckn w it but guess I may have to

[dark pulsar]

I used cast on minion death

With fireflower

[tropic pelican]

Interesting

[dark pulsar]

But you need necromantic aegis on the tree

You can find a full guide on jungroans channel

[tropic pelican]

I’ll check it out and prob do my own thing w it

But super interesting ty

Whereabouts is necro aegis?

[dark pulsar]

Somewhere top left

[tropic pelican]

Got it

Cool thanks bud!

🤘

[dark pulsar]

Np, it's a really good build

[polar anvil]

Why is Distilled Isolation so expensive 😦

[lyric solstice]

Try farming one and ull understand why

[polar anvil]

Is 5% attack speed better than 20% crit chance?

Actually I'll go with crit chance

[polar anvil]

Do recipes differ the further your tree is from a node you want to anoint?

Seems to me the nodes in my tree are cheaper but if I go left or right it adds Isolatiom

Actually I think I'll anoint the herald damage skill

[lyric solstice]

Nah its manually chosen by devs for each node

Stacking toxins, which allows you to get an extra poison stack, is close to ranger but is one of the most expensive Annoints

[polar anvil]

If it's fixed then that means the brokenness of the builds dictate if a distillation is going to be expensive or not then?

Isolation seems to be very popular

Like if you're saying isolation is harder to get

[lyric solstice]

Nah brother, isolations are just really hard to get

[boreal coral]

does anyone know anything about the PoB update we were supposed to get today? i had seen they were supposed to add poe2 to PoB

[polar anvil]

Doesn't that mean some skills are just screwed when anointing

[dark pulsar]

Delayed by 2 days

[lyric solstice]

Yeah cause it also means that skill is very strong

[boreal coral]

rip

[polar anvil]

Does that mean they know these nodes are gamechangers?

Okay gotcha

Hope to get lucky then, thank you @lyric solstice!

[lyric solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-pointing-smiling-supernatural-dean-winchester-gif-13153687

[dark pulsar]

Yea higher cost usually means better

[polar anvil]

Gotta have fun with just Doomsayer for now

[boreal coral]

what did they say the reason was for the delay by chance?

[polar anvil]

Reached level 80 not knowing you can anoint amulets lol

[dark pulsar]

I think they're waiting for the patch

[boreal coral]

thats fair

ty

[fallen comet]

this is prob a stupid question but im just wondering opinions--which ascendency for merc is more fun to play? i know the gemling is really expensive which is the thing kind of keeping me off from trying it...

[dark pulsar]

Kinda depends on which build

[cyan plinth]

Is a phys damage monk build viable?

[dark pulsar]

Sure

Bc your skills convert

[cyan plinth]

I want to deal phys damage, not convert it

[lyric solstice]

Witchhunter cull and explode nodes are pretty fun but has no defensive options, gemling can get way more defenses sadly

[lyric solstice]

Check out spreezy's or goratha's poison acolytes

That's the most Phys synergy for monk, through poison

[sturdy sable]

Neither are expensive

[lyric solstice]

Its Phys on hit, chaos overtime technically

[fallen comet]

oh really? i must have misread then thats on me lol

[cyan plinth]

Yeah, was hoping for flat phys damage, not poison. Its okay if its not very viable, just wondering if it was

[tacit lichen]

in the case of multiple sources of conversion, how is it calculated? I've read that you cannot convert damage granted from gain conversion "adds x% of damage as extra fire" etc, so are these just converted last? If my spell does 500 cold, i have an item that converts 100% of cold to lightning, and then add 10% of damage as extra cold dmg" I would do 500 lightning and 50 cold?

[sturdy sable]

No this game just has hella misinformation

Trust no one

[lyric solstice]

Any witchhunter build works just fine with gemling, cause no witchhunter nodes are build enabling

[sturdy sable]

I’m deadass too, people will just say random shit parroting 99% of the time

[lyric solstice]

For flat Phys I played titan with windwave because there's alot of stun synergy there, not sure if there's any ascendancy node for any monk that benefit from Phys only

[cyan plinth]

Just trying to find a fast melee phys damage build. I love war, but want to do another build that similar except faster attack speed

[lyric solstice]

Gonna be as good as an unascended monk damage wise , but i guess you can get good ES from them

[sturdy sable]

Monk ascend is about either chaos or elemental

You can scae flat phys very high, deal extra chaos damage off of it and use a giant flat for poison/bleeding people

So chayula would be most “physical” coded

[cyan plinth]

Yeah that what im thinking. Might start researchign into that

[sturdy sable]

Don’t, just make it urself

[cyan plinth]

Wym?

[sturdy sable]

Study passive tree

Cook

Win out

[cyan plinth]

Oh yeah, im looking at monk side of tree rn

[lyric solstice]

Depends on what your goals are, it's fun to experiment and make on your own. But it's gonna take alot of time and effort

But don't expect to be successful immediately. If that doesn't dissuade you then no need for a guide

[cyan plinth]

Plenty of time til full launch, im not in a rush

[lyric solstice]

But read up on mechanics through wikis or YouTube videos

Helps alot to know where to even start and how to scale after

[cyan plinth]

Ill skim through some chaluya monk builds to see whats copmmonly used and whatll work for me

[cyan plinth]

A mix of both is what i find enjoyable

[sturdy sable]

Based

[cyan plinth]

I like to do stuff myself, but not waste time

[lyric solstice]

Gotta learn from some guides to reach that last part

[sturdy sable]

You can’t waste time after you gain deeper understanding of game mechanics

[lyric solstice]

Eventually ull be reading guides for inspiration mostly, and doing your own thing from those

The most fun thing is finding youtube videos about build concepts, and then scaling them up yourself

Been finding some gold in YouTube recommended recently

Magma barrier gemling, bonestorm witchhunter

And decompose boots pathfinder is pretty sick, playing it right now and just walking all over any content

[stiff hinge]

Question: does this work with bonestorm the same way scattershot does?

[errant stream]

I took Lord of Horrors on my witch and then removed all of my minions / spirit skils but my spirit is at 230/257

is this some bug?

or am I possibly missing something

[stiff hinge]

27 is a weirdly specific number.

[errant stream]

I feel like it was 227/257 and then I relogged and went to 230 but not entirely sure

[lyric solstice]

Did you by chance lose some int or something?

[errant stream]

don't think so

[lyric solstice]

Sometimes I have to toggle off all my auras then toggle them again to get them working

They go to seperate weapon sets when I swap gear sometimes

[errant stream]

I respecced 2 points to go to horrors faster but it was crit damage for minions

[lyric solstice]

Might have been associated with some attributes, else I'd toggle off all auras and enable them again, if there's a red exclamation mark hover on it to see the error

[errant stream]

turning them on and off seems to have worked

[haughty dove]

any one know how to reliably cast comet useing witch

[stiff hinge]

burning inscription, barrier invocation, coc, coi incin, take your pick

[haughty dove]

thank you I didnt know where to start thank you for your help

[stiff hinge]

its most likely on the chopping block for the rebalance nerf due to all the server damage it does, enjoy it while you can :0

[haughty dove]

Yeah for sure just messing around with it

[stiff hinge]

(pure speculation, but Mark's words of "comets per second" tell me its problematic, especially given i can roll back instances with it unintentionally)

[haughty dove]

Yeah for sure

[humble laurel]

Hi guys,I need an advice,how much can I ask for a everlasting gaze 21% ?

[spring prairie]

look up the item with your rolls on poe trade side and price around there

if you get spammed raise the price, if it doesn't sell for a while lower the price

[lilac lava]

whats the point of this support ? the goal of meta gems is not to have as little maximum energy in order to trigger more often ?

[shadow zephyr]

Invocations don't automatically trigger, they store up energy until they fill max and then you cast them manually. Unlike Cast-on triggers, invocation triggers can happen repeatedly as long as there's energy left over to fill another trigger.

[lament sentinel]

just putting this here so when people search for it they can find the answer, last gasp will work with minion instability and arsonist skill, but it will not work on detonate dead+sacrifice

[junior quiver]

Is there a way to save your build, make some changes, and revert back if it isnt good?

For passive skills

[lament sentinel]

well, you have respec for that

[junior quiver]

Yes, but if I dont like the new build, can I quickly respec to the old passive tree? Or I need to manually do it again?

[lament sentinel]

don't think so, best way to do it is probably using a builder like maxroll and mobalytics so you can save your previous build on there

[dark pulsar]

PoB

In 2 days

[turbid patrol]

i am gremling playing grenade build. Anyone know how to scale it and how to fix my mana problems?

[wet mango]

people likely use chain support on spark

[turbid patrol]

or with the chain passives

[tender vine]

Hi, I bought poe2 yesterday, but won't be able to play until tomorrow, are you still needing orbs of regret to respec builds? Like can I wing it on a build, or do I need to do some planning before jumping in?

[lament sentinel]

you use gold to respec now, and unless you keep respecing your whole build, you prob won't run out of gold

[wet mango]

well you're getting 65% incr dmg on the right and 100% incr crit chance, trading off for 30% incr cast speed and 30% gain as extra

unless you have really skewed mods on your tree those will be similar/close

[tender vine]

Very cool. So I have a lot of leeway in terms of the skill tree it sounds like

[lament sentinel]

yes

[wet mango]

even if one is better it won't be miles better

[karmic jungle]

is path of building releasing today?

[winter vortex]

what are the level requirements for 17-18?

skill gem

[glad mountain]

Who here running frost mages on witch, any uniques that make it better?

[hasty tangle]

i swapped my whole lightning monk build to try elemental invocation and so far it feels terrible

[buoyant hatch]

Would an invoker monk using Lightning arrow and going CI be much worse than the ranger non-CI variant? I havent seen any yet 😛

[waxen jewel]

Uniques suck

There are few that are obviously good: pile of stats

[shadow zephyr]

I need to know if I've got a workable shoe-string plan here.

... A warrior who pretends to be a witch, takes ancestral bond, Goes Warbringer, takes ancestral spirits ascendancy skill, socket it with burning legion. Wants 390 spirit for 3 totems + raging spirits + cast on minion death.

Run Raging Spirits with persistence.

Run Cast on Minion Death, socket a dark effigy into it because Totems are not minions, and this totem is a spell with no "casting time" + ember fusilade (.4 second cast time = 40 energy total to trigger

Run a second, unmeta'd dark effigy. Cast 3 times. You'll get 3 spirit minions that burn themselves to death and 3 embers that will fire themselves.

This will produce 3 more dark effigy totems, 3 more totem spirit minions, and 3 raging spirits (who will expire, not die.), and 3 more embers. The totem spirits will burn themselves to death, repeating this process and sustaining your screen covered in dark effigies.

Run essence drain with scatter shot + envenom + bursting plague and spam liberally. Add a contagion here and there, and walk across the map chaos/poison/fire nuking everything that dares to approach you.

[waxen jewel]

Where are you right now on that plan?

And what are the problems

And do you really want to cast dark effigy 3 times instead of using some support that does it for you?

[shadow zephyr]

Just concepted; the primary problem to working it out is that I don't currently have the stat spread or the spare low level skill and spirit gems to test if I can actually socket dark effigy into cast on minion death.

everything hinges on the totem still socketing into cast on death after taking the ancestral spirits ascendancy passive

[waxen jewel]

So does the totem getting replaced by a new one count as "minion death"? Is that the core idea?

[shadow zephyr]

Nah. I've confirmed that expiration doesn't count as a death, but that's why the ancestral spirits are running burning legion.

[waxen jewel]

Right right

[shadow zephyr]

the totems last long enough to outlast the spirit life pool

which will recast them and summon new minions

(Recasting over your totem limit will replace the oldest totem/dead minions with new ones)

[waxen jewel]

Yeah

That's what I thought from poe1 (It's been a while though...)

[shadow zephyr]

so the question is if anyone has been crazy enough to go warbringer and try to socket spell totems into cast on minion death 😄

[waxen jewel]

I mean why not I guess

How are you dealing the initial chaos damage?

Like when starting to clear. If I understand correctly, you need some for the effigies to do work

[shadow zephyr]

Essence Drain + scatter shot + envenom + bursting plague + piercing, add a dash of contagion for large packs.

[waxen jewel]

Ohh that skill works really nicely with piercing neat

Cool idea, It's so far of anything I know anything about :D

[shadow zephyr]

Ty. I've been trying to figure out a way to make a totem loop since I took ancestral spirits last month, I kept running into the wall that all my mace totems are "attacks" not spells. 😄

but dark effigy... 😈

[thorny token]

you cant socket dark effigy to cast on gems

[waxen jewel]

So the core trick here is to kill and resurrect minions with totem casts and use various triggers for payoff?

[shadow zephyr]

This is very sad news...
The game tooltip explictly specifies that Totems are NOT minions.
Dark effigy is also specifically a Spell, not an attack.
Cast on minion death says "Cannot socket spells which create minions."

I'm obviously biased trying to make this idea work, but all the correct key words are there...

why no work? 😭

[thorny token]

yea theres nothing preventing it in tooltips, i would assume it has something to do with the forcing totems to be only self castable and not mentioning it anywhere

[waxen jewel]

There are hidden tags for gems that determine supportability sadly...

I've learned that from browsing poe2db too much

[shadow zephyr]

Got it. Ty for the info. I'm off to go cry bitter tears about hidden rules. 😦

[waxen jewel]

Wait so the rule here is Cast on X means Totems are nono?

[thorny token]

yes

[ocean depot]

hi is there any way i can use two of the same skill support on two different skills? i remember there was something for that but my memory is wonky

[tranquil field]

Does anyone know whether PoB for PoE2 is coming?

[lyric solstice]

This and gemling

[ocean depot]

ty!

[lyric solstice]

Was gonna be earlier this week, but localidentity said it's gone be later this week I think

[pearl sluice]

what does OTK mean in poe build guide terms?

[lyric solstice]

One shot kill?

[pearl sluice]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[waxen jewel]

One True King

[pearl sluice]

0 TTK, zero time to kill

something like that

context: "OTK almost bosses(including Arbiter of Ash +4)"

[lyric solstice]

Yeah one shots all bosses basically

[waxen jewel]

In card games it used to mean "One turn Kill", but zoomers made the word mean "kills faster than I like"

[crisp star]

how are people building so much mana? i have like 200 mana per ring and got all mana % nodes in the tree and my max mana is still only like 3k-3.5k. got 150+ mana per equipment as well

[pearl sluice]

TIL, never really got into card games so that is lost on me

[crisp star]

do i actually need to socket mana soul cores as well?

[pearl sluice]

that makes sense

[pearl sluice]

% Inc mana?

[waxen jewel]

Isn't there like a lot of %increased mana in the tree?

[crisp star]

got those alr

[waxen jewel]

Also int

[plain meteor]

Hi all, i cant seem to assign a weapon set point into a notable passive. is this on purpose or am i missing something?

[crisp star]

there's only like 3 of them

[pearl sluice]

weapon sets use your skill points you have available

[crisp star]

ye i have around 250+ int as well

[waxen jewel]

"Insightfulness" is +%increased mana in my eyes

[crisp star]

got that one as well

[pearl sluice]

So what you do is, as you level through the story, don't even bother touching weapon sets until endgame where you have a build planned around it, because all they do is use the points you have, they don't give "bonus" points

[plain meteor]

So i cant do the following?
Total points = 60
General points used = 40
Set 1 points used = 20
Set 2 points used = 20

[pearl sluice]

The weapon sets arent bonus points to freely use

[plain meteor]

ow, thats a real shame 😦

[waxen jewel]

You can, but the points in Set 1 and Set 2 must be different

[waxen jewel]

Wait what? Isn't that exactly the idea. They are bonus point if you manage to solve the problem of finding a common trunk for both of the trees

[pearl sluice]

I mean, they aren't added to your total skill point pool

[crisp star]

they aren't you gotta allocate your free 20-24 points to them

then you can split them however you want

[pearl sluice]

redeeming the books which grant the skill points, is just giving you 2 skill points with a bonus of being able to assign them in 2 different ways

[plain meteor]

yeh, so i have allocated 14 points in set 1. so i imagined i can also allocate 14 points in set 2.

[pearl sluice]

Which is useless until end game

[plain meteor]

I can allocate them to atribute nodes but not notables?

or jewel slots?

[waxen jewel]

Oh right so let's say for example I'm Level 8 and have 10 normal skill points + 20 weapon set points unlocked (for sake of example). I I can't ever use more than 8 of those weapon set points riiight

[pearl sluice]

can allocate them whereever, but only if you have the total skill points available, and the weapon set points available, than on that branch of the passive tree, you cannot allocate non weapon set points down that branch

[waxen jewel]

IDK how I manage to get confused by it still even though I've used weapon set's extensively

[plain meteor]

I want to get this node, but it wont allow me

[pearl sluice]

It needs to be reworked

[fiery stone]

Anyone else using Wave of Frost as a movement skill? 🤣

[pearl sluice]

Or the descriptions or something changed

i was so damn confused at first lmfao

[waxen jewel]

Yeah, but the core idea is okay IMO. They can then pile league mechanics on top of that later in classic GGG style

[plain meteor]

It is clearly connected and i can keep going right as long as its not a jewel or a key passive

[pearl sluice]

yeah the idea is good, but it needs to be refined

[pearl sluice]

you have no skill points left

[plain meteor]

Then why can i add an attribute node?

[waxen jewel]

I'm concerned that my weapon sets have 20 as the parenthesized number. Does this mean I somehow managed to miss 4 points?

Ohh or is that a ascendancy minor?

[plain meteor]

I think u mightv missed some?

[pearl sluice]

okay, i'm not sure @plain meteor LOL

[plain meteor]

😦

[pearl sluice]

ill jump on my other character and respec to see if i can

[plain meteor]

I also cant allocate a jewel node even with a skill point available

Ill try a reboot, see if it helps.

[pearl sluice]

maybe you can't allocate keystones

wth

[waxen jewel]

The issue here is that you have allocated points for weapon set I even though you might as well have allocated them for both of the sets

[pearl sluice]

I can't allocate whispers of doom as a weaponset

probably a balancing thing?

[waxen jewel]

Isn't that the famously bugged node?

[plain meteor]

so u cant weapon set jewel sockets and key passives?

[waxen jewel]

No nevermind I mixed something

Guys read the tooltip for weaponset's

[pearl sluice]

Nah, can't allocate any keystone on my tree

[waxen jewel]

I got gotten by that too

[pearl sluice]

I guess you can't

[plain meteor]

lol

reading the tooltip is indeed helpfull!

thx for helping me get the info, even if its a shame 🙂

[waxen jewel]

I wanted to go for Dance with Death with my unarmed shield weapon set for faster shield dashing, but couldn't

[pearl sluice]

bruh i'm dyslexic as fuck i swear to god

[waxen jewel]

I still do go for the unarmed attack speed cluster though lmao

[pearl sluice]

I'm sure I've read that like a dozen times

and i read it as, can allocate

haha

[fallow tundra]

I've encountered something weird I'd say, so if i use a curse like temporal chains i can socket encumbrance into it for more slow magnitude
Now if i use blasphemy with temporal chains it says i cant put encumbrance into it, it doesnt show on all allowed gems either but if i throw it in anyway it just works
Is that a bug or working as intended? xD

kinda lost there

[waxen jewel]

Reminds me of the increased exposure effectiveness support on barrage

Strip Away I think

But that doesn't work (or who knows)

Why the hell shouldn't you be allowed to but encumbrance into it though?

You definitely can put curse effectiveness

And it does work for conduit at least

[fallow tundra]

if i go on all gems for blasphemy its not there

[waxen jewel]

I mean for trigger gem, but meta anyways like blasphemy

[fallow tundra]

and if i drag it in its red and says i cant put it in there but it lets me do it

[waxen jewel]

Well that's at minimum a visual bug

[fallow tundra]

heightened curse shows up

[waxen jewel]

Nobody knows GGG intentions

And yeah that's different than anything I've experienced

Does the order of inserting shit matter?

Like can you go bare encumbrance into blasphemy

[fallow tundra]

wait, i gotta try that, maybe its locked until i throw chains in

[pearl sluice]

For some gems yeah

[waxen jewel]

I meant in the situation @fallow tundra is in

[pearl sluice]

not with execution, but you cant insert some supports into triggers/meta gems before having the primary gem in it

[fallow tundra]

alright, order doesnt matter, i can even throw it in without a curse that has any kind of slow and im certain it works, i get 5% more slow

[tall burrow]

Guys, is there anywhere that i can look what changes when increasing the minions level? Im trying to see is is worthy getting the max levels I can get or getting other stats

[pearl sluice]

https://poe2db.tw/

Gem > Skills gem look for gem, provides all stats of the levels

[tall burrow]

Thanks

[waxen jewel]

So my theory is that the intention is that you can put support in before the gem it supports. But the game is angry about that and displays red text. This is valid usage of meta gems though (like @pearl sluice mentioned) so the game still allows that. GGG just forgot to remove that angry red text (or want to remind you that you are doing something weird)

[safe trench]

can someone help me out with hexblade bloodmage? I'm not liking DD

[waxen jewel]

I'd love them to somehow implement showing gem's level scaling in-game. That's the #1 reason I'm at poe2db all the time

[fallow tundra]

i saw its basically the same with cast on freeze, comet and echo
thats good to know tho, didnt want to abuse any bugs

thx for the help guys

[viral sage]

does 'Life Thief' support gem become useless/less efficient if I also take 'Avatar of Fire' passive skill?

[waxen jewel]

How do gems like Minion Pact: "Supported Skills remove 100% of your maximum Life from a nearby Minion on use to deal 40% more damage." work? They can't just use your final life, otherwise that would be silly with chaos innoculation and other life conversions. Is it like with stuns, that whatever health you have in the end, there's one "real" Max HP stat in the background calculated before any conversions/reservations?

[waxen jewel]

Yeah. Assuming you are not doing physical damage in the end (like by converting that fire back to physical...)

[waxen jewel]

Oops I didn't read: Yes.

[tight raft]

how does this craftofexile work?

is it simply you seeing the chance of being able to craft X item depending on what mats you use in the process?

[viral sage]

im trying figure best way to recouped lost HP if i take 'Blood Magic' passive skill. currently i took 'avatar of fire', so physical life leech probably not working well

[crisp star]

you can't allocate weapon set points to keystones and jewel sockets but notables are all ok