2┃build-planning

[potent ice]

example but theres alot of stuff that does this

[hybrid ocean]

Converting 18% of your life to something else will act on the HP before CI

[hybrid ocean]

Look at the tooltip for sacrifice

[potent ice]

?? i dont see it

i am on FL studio now i just forgot this was in my other monitor and i was wondering it earlier

[hybrid ocean]

https://www.poe2db.tw

[vernal falcon]

It can never be lower than 1 so CI doesn't work with thkse

[hybrid ocean]

Blegh

Third time's the charm

But sacrifice says "You cannot sacrifice what you do not have"

I.e. it will fail and do nothing

[dapper swallow]

is ancestral totem necessary for sunder to deal high dmg?

[gloomy compass]

POB delayed for another 2 days at least 🥲

[spare quartz]

I'm missing out on 1000 evasion on my body armor because i need the spirit on it. Worth giving up Wind Dancer for 1000 flat evasion boost any opinions?

[potent ice]

converting all dmg taken to mana > recover damage taken as mana > hp = 1 > Where we are (trying to push it further now )

[spare quartz]

Poison ranger

[mystic shard]

any good poison mage build? with just the spell/gems?

[potent ice]

no 😦

i like converting my spark into chaos dmg with alot of duration and projectile speed on it

closest we got reliably

also you can get chance to*poison on HIT but i believe that is all

[mystic shard]

I tried that, kinda I got 21% added chaos dmg kinda started to proc at least

hmmm

and winters thing wouldnt be good for it?

the end tier sorc frost abiltiy?

[potent ice]

the gloves?

ohh

uhh

[mystic shard]

no the ball of winter spike

s

[potent ice]

i mean u can, sure

i am not confident enough in that skill rn

[raw barn]

Poison cares about the size of the hits now and has a cap

[potent ice]

^

[raw barn]

Eye of winter is anti-synergetic with poe2 poison

[potent ice]

unless u wanna equip a phat bow

u can do that here

[mystic shard]

and how did u get ur spark converted to chaos dmg?

[potent ice]

:))

[raw barn]

I think you can prob make a decent arc poison build by going pathfinder and picking up the gloves that make elemental damage count for poison

[mystic shard]

if u also adda nother stack of poison, does it stack + refresh duration? or just stack

[raw barn]

But prob not gonna be better then just going hit archmage

[potent ice]

convert lightning into cold > cold into fire > fire into chaos

[mystic shard]

and u do this how?

[vernal falcon]

Can't you just run the neck that converts all elementsl damage to chaos damage. Go archmage, stack mana, then drop a comet for big poison

[potent ice]

you can also just convert like a fireball to chaos dot instead of ignite but idk

uhh

[vernal falcon]

Original sin I think

[potent ice]

dang i keep getting the other one

[raw barn]

Yea original sin is an option

Its a ring

[potent ice]

i thought original sin was that ring

[mystic shard]

ah, I see.

[potent ice]

i keep geting the trash one

[vernal falcon]

Or yea ring

[potent ice]

black wall amethyst or something

[raw barn]

But I'm not sure if converting to chaos is better then just getting lightning damage to be able to poison

[long mist]

hello, someone with patience can help me? I'm new on this game, currently i'm at level 68 with a galvanic shard mercenary witch hunter build, but I do no damage with my skill. The board says 325 dps on galvanic shard, but idk how this is possible, I cant even kill a trash mob on waystone lvl 1 with that. Gemns on galvanic are fork, conduction, mobility and martial tempo. I'm following some guides, I bought a better weapon, but nothing change. Idk if the problem is on the passives, gear, or something else. Thanks in advance

[raw barn]

I feel like you can scale lightning damage so much higher then chaos

[thorny token]

you cant most of the time

chaos nodes on tree are stronger and glove slot is very strong for poison

[potent ice]

but but chaos dmg does alot of dot

[thorny token]

you would go plaguefinger only when going archmage

[potent ice]

not really shock and electrocute is a stun

[thorny token]

as osin doesnt work with archmage

[potent ice]

shock more of a primer

[hybrid ocean]

Also goddamn, rapid shot scales insanely well with levels, doesn't it?

[raw barn]

Hmmm that's true

I guess sacrificing a ring is better then gloves for poison

[potent ice]

true that

and if u find a way to convert comfortable you can double dip electricute guaranteed with those gloves

so you can have them immobalized taking alot of dot

[mystic shard]

archmage + oriignal sin? I wonder.

Ive no real dmg passives, maybe on for 53% more dmg.

A 70/70 spell dmg/fire wand and +3 to all fire skills.

And im just solar orbing for exposure, then frost wall + fireballing with unleash + scatter shot, it's good, but I see people just melt bosses, I do decent dmg, but not that melting power.

[potent ice]

play alot of warframe so im always testing out dumb stuff

[raw barn]

Don't do archmage+original sin

You pick either or

Archmage if you're going the lightning route

[potent ice]

archmage doesnt boost lightning dmg?

[raw barn]

Original sin if you're going the chaos

[mystic shard]

i cant afford the ring anyway

[potent ice]

lightning is a dmg type

is chaos

or is that in whatever category like ignite is

AILMENT

[raw barn]

The damage from archmage is given after conversion

[vernal falcon]

Archmage is specifically "%extra damage as lightning per 100 mana" which would be converted to chaos

[thorny token]

conversions all happen at same time

[potent ice]

i wouldve thought

[hybrid ocean]

Ailments are chill, freeze, shock, electrocute, ignite bleed and poison

[thorny token]

which means the archmage as extra cant be converted

to chaos

[vernal falcon]

Aaah so it wouldn't convert hmmm

[potent ice]

mm

[vernal falcon]

So better to scale lightning into poison 100%

[thorny token]

well only with archamge, osin is better for pretty much everything else as poison over plaguefinger

[potent ice]

bro yall like playing with numbers try the dragon helmet

THEN convert with a ring

whew

[hybrid ocean]

I thought archmage was as extra?

[vernal falcon]

It is

[mystic shard]

does essence drains debuff stack or reset?

[hybrid ocean]

Which is a different (albeit later) step from conversion

[vernal falcon]

Yea is extra or conversion first?

[thorny token]

its same step

[vernal falcon]

Ah ok

[thorny token]

both as extra and conversion are same thing pretty much

[vernal falcon]

Rip

[thorny token]

in how they work

there is 2 step process, but that is for skill local conversion

and other conversion

where skill local conversion gets processed first

but that is also bugged for as extra atm

and the as extra that is skill local gets processed in the second step instead

[potent ice]

convert all lightning dmg into cold dmg > make cold dmg proc ignite instead of chill >set the room on fire with a lightning orb

[thorny token]

but there arent many skills with as extra that is local

[potent ice]

lol

[thorny token]

its only detonating arrow, rapid shot and eow

[vernal falcon]

Anyone gonna try new paints gloves with elemental conflux?

[mystic shard]

i think dark effigy shoots like a machine gun before u put any modifiers on it

that could be the poison trick

[thorny token]

poison has limited stacks

and imo dark effigy is giga shit in basically every scenario

[mystic shard]

no way lol really?

whats limit on stacks?

[thorny token]

1

you can get +2 from tree, +1 from glove

and 100% more from pathfinder

and +1 from support

so max 10 stacks

[sterile pebble]

info?

[gloomy compass]

Localidentity twitter

[mystic shard]

lol I thought it stacked infinitely, it only lasts 2 secs jesus that feels pretty garbage

[vernal falcon]

Poison is stupid strong with a single pair of boots tbf

[thorny token]

its pretty good, you just are limited to hard hitting skills

[vernal falcon]

Mfing corpsewade

[mystic shard]

mmm I guess

[gloomy compass]

https://x.com/Localldentity/status/1878613613843497166?t=gBUYJh8rBHK7K9ECVpM3Rg&s=19

LocalIdentity (@Localldentity) on X

Unfortunately going to have to delay the PoB release by a little longer.
Aiming to get it done by the night of the 15th is Australia so ~60 hours from now

Not sure when ggg is putting out the game patch or if it’s worth waiting for that too before we put out the release

Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 1:22 AM

[vernal falcon]

Yknow what you could do. Stack spirit, get a bunch of high hp skeleton reavers, use the spirit to spell damage focus and build poison damage, and corpsewade with sacrifise on the reavers on bosses

[sterile pebble]

ehhh

ty

[vernal falcon]

So pretty much poison detonate dead

[plain matrix]

whats popular titan builds rn ?

[plush path]

There's some earthquake build popular.

On YouTube

[mystic shard]

seems u cant get much dmg off flameblast, fireballl just better?

[west sierra]

I keep dying to rares that prevent recovery past 50% or suppress recovery. What can I do to prevent this running a self-damage barrier invocation build?

Also elemental weakness on me makes things rough.

[brittle lintel]

guys as a stormweaver, is the grand regalia 5 slot with mana and attributes better than 700 energy shield armor?

[mystic shard]

If I can put 40% flat fire exposure on someone.

And they have 30% fire resist, and I have 30% fire pen.

Will it give then -40% or -10%?

I know u can't penetrate into negatives, but can you use penetration to boost EXPOSURE if they resists in the way? WIll it break down that first layer?

[thorny token]

-10%

debuff is already applied on enemy, which means on hit effect (like exposure) can only come after that

[sharp warren]

Can someone link he best gemling leveling guide?

[lone wave]

someone convince me wearing Thief's Torment is better than wearing two yellow Gold Rings

[sage tulip]

I forget the name of the skill but it causes you to get engery shield back as you kill enemy's whats the name ?

[dawn spire]

This is the best I know of
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1326972100409426081

At least for ssf

[dawn spire]

Grim feast. It's a spirit gem

[sage tulip]

thank you

[dawn spire]

Without knowing the mods on the rare rings I cannot possibly do this

[lone wave]

Its a generic notion.
I struggle to imagine a Thiefs Torment ever beating two yellow gold rings in general.
Any gold rings one uses are going to have rolled more rarity, so you expect to have more rarity on the two golds, and rarity is what I'd have equipped Torment for

[upbeat crow]

do use this for my attribute gemling or should i get one with +30 spirit?

[dawn spire]

Then I can only give the generic answer of, "It depends on the mods and how much you value rarity"

[lone wave]

oh you son of a gun you just made my Pillar of the Caged God build more expensive lol

I did not know about that helmet

sigh, it costs like a dozen divines doesnt it

[dawn spire]

Depends on what you get with the +30 spirit vs the extra attributes

[green minnow]

can someone check my stormweaver build? im at level 53 in campaign rn and have 3,5k tooltip, it feels like im missing something, every build guide has completely different skill tree routes

[lone wave]

If I'm running stat stacker I'd probably care more about the better %strength roll than 30 spirit

[upbeat crow]

rly i mean im going for HOWA and it doesnt stack strength i think

[lone wave]

I plumb don't remember what howa refers to so there's that

[upbeat crow]

hands of wisdom and action

theres a build that wants me to go 500+dex and int so surely its possible

[lone wave]

right, the gloves, but with what weapon though

Like, are you using those gloves with Caged God

is Caged God the only stat stacker weapon right now?

[upbeat crow]

yea

[mystic shard]

fire exposure incinerate's alright I guess

[upbeat crow]

not sure im new to this kind of build

[lone wave]

Well Caged God wants you to stack strength

[upbeat crow]

rly ok ill try to find a better help with more strength

[hybrid fern]

hello, who is better poison build?

[near jewel]

I got spoiled by my shockwave totem warbringer. 4 x ritual boss, 4 x breach boss, 2 x arbiter ...no oneshots but still ez mode. 2 skills on bar-totem and shield charge. Can you recommend a similar safe low APM build for after the notes?

[proud talon]

fire witch seem quite bad nearly all fire skill are meh when you compare it to ice comete

[mystic shard]

where the hell is "Immortal call"

[potent ice]

what the hell is immortal call

also ur doxing yourself

[mystic shard]

nah its just a link?

[potent ice]

alexis

[mystic shard]

yeah I saw, it's my name but I mean, everyones got first names

its all good

anyway yeah exactly

wtf is immortal call?

i looked it up, poe 1 skill

some poe 2 guide

jesus

is it in game am I nuts or?

[potent ice]

its not lightning orb or conduit so i am unsure

how would anyone recommend using archmage for the lightning orb combo with warp

[mystic shard]

do new skill sshow up when u get "endurance" charges and shit

[potent ice]

not archmage

[mystic shard]

ive not got "charges" yet and im not sure how to get them

[potent ice]

the one where youre inside of a baby tornado for more dmg

i thought tyhat was a passive

[rocky pilot]

this is a PoE 1 guide

[potent ice]

like rage etc

[potent ice]

to be fair it says poe 2 in the address bar

it would messed me up too

[frail sedge]

Someone managed to search for Polymathy's hash for megalomaniac jewels? Hash is supposed to be 57047, but nothing shows up

[mystic shard]

yeah it says poe 2 though

will attrition eventually just let u 1 tap a boss at 34 seconds?

[lilac hamlet]

Hey all. Been trying to do my own thing with Invoker and not following builds. I have some doubts with the ascendancy "Sunder my enemies..." which ignores non-negative res. Does exposure do anything at all?

[mystic shard]

well hope I see more like immortal call in poe 2, it' sjust my style and sick of all abilities jus tbeing dmg dmg dmg

[dawn spire]

What do you feel like you're missing? Survivability or damage?

[raw barn]

"Sunder my enemies" essentially lowers the enemies resistance to 0, if it's currently below 0 from things like exposure and curses it won't do anything

[mystic shard]

anyway to get all of an element to physical dmg?

[lilac hamlet]

So exposure is the same to penetration?

[raw barn]

No, they are functionally different

[dawn spire]

Unless you're exposing them to negative resistance, then no, exposure is useless. And if you DO expose them to negative res, that ascendancy node is useless. That node basically gets your enemies to 0% res without requiring exposure, curses, or penetration

[raw barn]

Exposure and curses applies a negative modifier to the enemy that lowers their resistance and can go into the negatives

[mystic shard]

yes except it goes into th enegatives

if u get exposure u should just ignore penetration

[dawn spire]

Penetration cannot go below 0% and is applied AFTER resistances are lowered

[frank canopy]

Hey, I would like some advice on building a Sorceress. From the game start, I leaned heavily into a fire build, based on fireball and incinerate, but what ive seen, frost is the go to build? I tried building around frost, but I just cant seem to make it work, keep dying and not doing much damage, compared to fire build

[lilac hamlet]

I see. Not a very interesting ascendancy by itself then.

[raw barn]

Its stronger then it seems at a glance

[dawn spire]

A build is a lot of moving parts. We can't really say what the problem is without seeing your weapon and your skill gems + supports

Also if you're dying a lot it sounds like a gear issue and you should check out https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328202289755983932

[frank canopy]

Thanks, will check it out

[raw barn]

Letting you not care about building penetration or exposure effect saves you a lot of investment from other places

Not to mention allowing you to ignore rares with "ele resistance aura" and the like

[lilac hamlet]

That's a good point. Still with this and Cold Exposure on Charged Staff feels like enough.

[wicked moss]

guys real talk, is it worth to buy ingenuity belt without good rings? and what shoul a god rolled ring looks like for an invoker monk??

[lilac hamlet]

Also what's the benefit of running Crescendo on Ice Strike? Been trying it myself but still think Concentrated Effect brings a lot more just that sometimes it's not as easy to hit two bells simultaneously.

[mystic shard]

damn I thought bleeding could infinite stack

so to be clear, nothing in the game can infinite stack to like just get strnger and stronger dot?

I swear I seen my guildy do that but may was just high base poison

[lilac hamlet]

It's a future investment if you bargain a good price for when you do have those rings.

[wicked moss]

sounds good! do you know what god roll rings looks like for invoker monks?

[raw barn]

Nope, closest you get is poison with 10 active stacks

[mystic shard]

and that takes a lot

[raw barn]

Yea you have to pick up a lot of negative duration in order to get +stacks

[lone wave]

but you also take duration nodes, and it ends up being easy to maintain 10 stacks

[mystic shard]

seems like blasphemy + impending doom and running out and back in range, might be a good trick

or just spam hexblast

[lilac hamlet]

Would you recommend Unbound Avatar or Sunder my enemies for The Arbiter? As you don't start with the skill fully charged.

[elder mural]

pillard of the cage god is ocnsidered 1 hand with offhand empty ?

[mystic shard]

blackflame amethyst ring, poison stuff, incinerate?

[lilac hamlet]

Until we have PoB I'm still debating myself if I should move to the second pic. Have anyone tried both paths? Which one is better for general purposes?

[potent ice]

porque no los dos

[lilac hamlet]

Not enough points tbh

[potent ice]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

lol

oh dang

[mystic shard]

oh dang to what?

[lilac hamlet]

I mean maybe at level 100 but don't think I'm close hitting it soon

[mystic shard]

wish respec was free so I could just test stuff

[lilac hamlet]

Would rather have a training dummy

[vernal falcon]

That ring is so cringe because you have to build fire damage for the ignite magnitude still lol

I'm trying to think how tf you can even use it

Unless like maybe it makes your totem fire again?

[olive copper]

how do you calculate the true crit chance with sheet crit + critical weakness from like eye of winter?

[thorny token]

the only purpose of that ring is to scale ignite with wither and - chaos res instead of - fire res

which i think might actually be good in poe2

in poe1 it was pretty bait because - res was giga accessible

but in poe2 it isnt and also most bosses have 0 chaos res

so its probably good

but you dont do poison on top of ignite with it thats just stupid

its just ignire ring and thats it

[mystic shard]

u can use lightnign warp on ball lightnings btw

for info for anyone

[heavy tinsel]

Think this is worth building around ?

Seems like 300% could be alot imho

But I'm new

[steel elm]

Which instill/anoint on my Everlasting Gaze amulet is the best guys?

[craggy kraken]

Theory crafting an aura bot: What ascendancy would work best? I don't need to do anything except keep up and survive.

[thorny token]

yes its pretty good item

[heavy tinsel]

Gonna need a top tier scepter now

[thin mesa]

guys on ice strike monk is it even worth it to run double heralds if I have polcirkeln ring?

[vernal falcon]

Yea there's a few builds based on jt with a lot of cast on ignite/shock builds

[thorny token]

titan probably

or pathfinder

chrono would also work but afaik the slow from chrono is bugged

[sterile knot]

Depending on where in the campaign/endgame you are there are much better rings to be running instead of polcirkeln at which point double herald is just easier to fit in than the ring

[sullen nimbus]

as i understand, you do either one or the other, not both. you can get a lot in a ring slot by using both heralds.

[thin mesa]

huh im at the endgame now at like T4 maps only :x I thought it'd be good to run all of it to get massive shatter explosions..

[slender bone]

For an Ice Strike Invoker Monk which Quarterstaff stat is better:
Adds # to # Cold Damage
or
#% increased Elemental Damage with Attacks
?

[thin mesa]

hm alright I thought the ring was needed to shatter massive amounts

[lilac hamlet]

Increased Elemental Damage with Attacks. Tested myself.

[vernal falcon]

While on High Infernal Flame, you and Allies in your Presence Gain 20% of Damage as Fire Damage

Infernalist

[sterile knot]

Herald of thunder with enough ice buildup also provides that mass shatter effect

[vernal falcon]

Just sit at high infernal flame

[upper viper]

For crossbow, how does attack speed really work. Is it close to just reload speed you can get on jewels ?

[thin mesa]

hm alright damn I spent my only divine I ever got on that ring haha

[thorny token]

attack speed scales reload speed (and also actual attack speed and the reload animation)

[vernal falcon]

There's also another node you can get that states "while not low infernal flame, you and all allies damage contributes to ignite chance and magnitude" for more damage

[upper viper]

Noted, thanks. Was just a bit confusing on how it worked with crossbow, if it was worth getting attack speed nodes as well or just keep myself to jewels. Thanks!

[vernal falcon]

And for your last point you can grab hellhound that will soak 20% of your damage taken

[thorny token]

yea attack speed is probably the single best crossbow stat

[upper viper]

ah

[vernal falcon]

Me id'ing T5 crossbows wondering why I never saw attack speed turns out it was bugged lol

Yea funnily rereading infernalist it's a funnily good buff bot. Cause the stuff ment to buff minions obv also just buffs any allies

[upper viper]

Annoying, lets hope with the update. We get to see better mods tho!

[vernal falcon]

Yea it's going to be fixed with the update, and the annoying mods are apparently being reduced

[upper viper]

yeah thats lovely. Hope picking up more loot now, will be a bit more fun 😄

[marsh sandal]

Has anyone tried an ice shot build that works?
I am level 89 farming t15+ comfortably but I have two huge problems.
Mana sustain equal to zero, mana leech doesn't seem to work. i have 3 gear with mana leech + a jewel that increase my leech by 7% and still doesn't seem to have any benefit
Single target dps too low and as a result mana potions run out

[white relic]

Can someone tell me whether for the Mana Tempest quality upgrade the mana drain/cost continues during that 1s of lingering effect?

[mint summit]

I’m pretty sure Apex of the Moment is functioning, it just does a bad job of showing when it’s affecting enemies

[lilac hamlet]

Any downside of running triple herald?

[mint summit]

Also, slow has reduced magnitude in multiplayer.

[thorny token]

probs still worse than titan anyway but if you are sure it works then thats nice i guess

[mint summit]

Well you want to stack it with temp chains and + slow magnitude to get anywhere

[mortal cloak]

Running stat stacking POTCG, using charged staff with ice strike, combat frenzy, herald of ice and thunder. Any suggestions on better support gems? Not sure if there's potential interactions I'm missing. Concentrated Effect, Glaciation, Martial Tempo and Primal Armament on Ice Strike. Lightning Infusion, Magnified Effect, Longshot and Innervate on Charged Staff. Expanse, Leverage, Rageforged and Heavy Swing on Tempest Bell. Profusion and Clarity on Combat Frenzy. Conduction, Coursing Current, Stormfire and Overcharge on Herald of Thunder. Cold Pene, Ice Bite, Cold Exposure and Strip Away on Herald of Ice. I also have Hand of Caluya, Enfeeble, Freezing Mark, Heightened Curse and Hex bloom for bosses and Frost Bomb with Second Wind and Arcane Tempo.

[lapis cedar]

new best build god giga build shits on god himself god himself could not play the build because it is the antithisist to him

@alpine fulcrum

[steel elm]

Lightning Rod vs. Wild Storm .. Which is better to choose for my amulet as a Spark Stormweaver?

[loud glacier]

can someone explain to me why giants blood makes my dps show lower on the skill panel when equipping a second weapon?

[mystic shard]

fire kinda easier to build than chaos?

[proud talon]

fire good until late game then it suck hard

you get no real nuke dmg while you need it in end game

[tidal copper]

This an other lies the warriors want you to believe

[proud talon]

i put all skills points in fire dmg/fire penetration/combustion etc and im barely doing anything in end game XD

[tidal copper]

https://youtu.be/PqQ7JI8U4eA?si=oXJCOECqnE7BoejI

[mystic shard]

what does "cast on ignite" using incinerate do?

[proud talon]

not the same class im an infernalist XD

[hybrid tapir]

Anybody know an alternative to path of building for PoE 2?

[proud talon]

spark/ice are just way better than fire for this class sadly

[wintry osprey]

PoB will be out this week for PoE2

[tidal copper]

Adapt the build and overcome your weaknesses>:(

[halcyon solar]

what is generally better: increased charges or reduced charges used?

[proud talon]

to compare ice comet dmg its 400 to 700 XD

[tidal copper]

How much DMG is hex blast?

[proud talon]

153 284

[tidal copper]

No fucking way

[proud talon]

comet is just busted as hell lot of video of comet build one shotting everything non stop

ive seen one speed running a map while running and killing everyone in a sec XD

[hybrid tapir]

Thanks for the info. Miracles this week, isn't Templar set to release soon as well?

[fathom sparrow]

Havent tested extensively, but i also didnt see impact of mana leech. I tried it today. didnt see a difference

Is mana leech really not working?

[lilac hamlet]

Been checking the trading site and seems that won't be able to improve my weapon unless I spend a fortune. What jewels should I pursue? Don't have any meaningful ones equipped. Running triple element Ice Strike Invoker.

[mortal cloak]

unning stat stacking POTCG, using charged staff with ice strike, combat frenzy, herald of ice and thunder. Any suggestions on better support gems? Not sure if there's potential interactions I'm missing. Concentrated Effect, Glaciation, Martial Tempo and Primal Armament on Ice Strike. Lightning Infusion, Magnified Effect, Longshot and Innervate on Charged Staff. Expanse, Leverage, Rageforged and Heavy Swing on Tempest Bell. Profusion and Clarity on Combat Frenzy. Conduction, Coursing Current, Stormfire and Overcharge on Herald of Thunder. Cold Pene, Ice Bite, Cold Exposure and Strip Away on Herald of Ice. I also have Hand of Caluya, Enfeeble, Freezing Mark, Heightened Curse and Hex bloom for bosses and Frost Bomb with Second Wind and Arcane Tempo.

[mystic shard]

perfect jewels cost too much
sick of trying to vaal orb skill gems for slots

[fervent briar]

Because there is a less damage multiplier for dual wielding. But you hit with both weapons so it’s more damage. This could be skill dependent I don’t know how they all work.

[mortal cloak]

I failed 4 in a row and decided perfect jeweler/buying off trade site is better lol

I got a level 21 corrupted 5 socket gas grenade for 2.5 divine

[mystic shard]

i failed fucking like 50 in a row

to get the 5th slot

[mortal cloak]

yea you wasted like 10 perfect jeweler's worth of greater+quality lol

xD

[mystic shard]

I dno what prices ur seeing

[mortal cloak]

After my like 4th fail I was like fuck this, I succeeded my first one and then failed 4-5 in a row and was like bruh this is not mathing

[mystic shard]

but im getting 12 vaal orbs for 1 exalt

and like 6 lesser jeweler for 1 exalta

[mortal cloak]

It's not the vaals it's the greater jeweler and the quality

[mystic shard]

nd maybe 1 rgeater for a few exalt

[mortal cloak]

that's like 40 ex each try?

greater jeweler is like 30 ex?

[mystic shard]

well I did some 3 to 4 slot attemps, msot of those honestly

but yes its about 15-30 for a 4th

[mortal cloak]

Greater Jeweler + 4x quality is 35~-40 ex so if you failed 50 times that is enough for like 7x perfect jeweler

[mystic shard]

but its like 300 for a 5th, I see it all for 3-4 divs

200*

[mortal cloak]

Yea but if you failed 50 times x40 that's 2,000 exalted ?

so 20 divines almost lol

[mystic shard]

i meant I failed to get 4 slots

not 5

sorry

[mortal cloak]

ahhhh

you're trying to vaal the 4th??

[mystic shard]

yeah

[mortal cloak]

but y tho?

[mystic shard]

ive got a few skills but not the new shit im trying

i dno anymore, ill just buy in futur eI guess

[mortal cloak]

Using a perfect jeweler orb is dumb tbh, BUT idk how prices are NOW compared to when I bought my gas grenade

But like I said I paid 2.5 div for a corrupted level 21 5 socket gas grenade

JUST the PJO alone was 3+ div

[vernal falcon]

Honestly the few div for a perfect is easier then you think to farm if you realize how much shit is worth liquidating down to exaulted. Iv legit seen 4 iron runes equal an exault on currency exchange

[fervent briar]

Anyone played a cold snap frost bomb titan?

[mortal cloak]

If you can buy a 20%+ quality level 21 5 socket for less than 3 div it makes 0 sense to make one yourself

I'd go check trade site if I were you

[sonic pollen]

What's the exchange rate based on?

[vernal falcon]

It's a player market

Iron runes

Litterly any crafting item that effects lightning or attributes

Etc

[mystic shard]

so how would I go about farming big stuff? im level 52 atm

is there any way I could get ignite hits to pop a curse like hexblast (even if it did no dmg?)

[fervent briar]

What do you mean big stuff.

You don’t need anything special at lvl 52

[sonic pollen]

Fair only have looked at it once.... Just wasn't sure how it worked thanks for the response!

[halcyon solar]

do the flask affixes roll in Tiers aswell?

[livid flume]

does tailwind stack with qotf?

[thorny token]

well it gives you evasion for qotf

but the movement speed from tailwind wont apply

[thorny token]

yes they have tiers

[halcyon solar]

was just wondering since i have 2 with different ranges

like 66-70% amount and 54-88

58*

[fervent briar]

All item mods have tiers. It’s how you gate the equippability of op mods at low level

[halcyon solar]

it's a bit lacking that instead of giving you a Tier it always says just "U" on the uniques or Flasks

[vernal falcon]

Me spending 2 div on a near perfect flask for my build lol

[fervent briar]

I never noticed flasks not having tiered numbers.

Maybe it’s just coded that way to prevent them from rolling on other items.

[vernal falcon]

It's kinda like how waystones have tiers of rolls but don't show either

Honestly could be a bug

[thorny token]

its most likely a bug yea

[halcyon solar]

first two expedition nodes: 100% and +100% dmg....

eh 100% crit and 100% dmg

exped is the one mechanic, where i tend to often just kill myself with too many mods

can you even hit monsters with spells if they are hexproof?

[thorny token]

yea hexproofs just prevents curses and thats it

kinda worthless mod in this game i think

[halcyon solar]

still 100% crit and dmg is kinda rough as the first 2 nodes close by 😮

[thorny token]

dont rly haveto hyperfocus on those, the poles are equally important if not more

but yea exped even in poe1 was one of the most dangerous mechanics

i always just avoided it on melee builds for example

not worth dying for

[halcyon solar]

too much planning

❤️ Breach

[thin basin]

2div on a flask boyaintnoway

Might as well save up and buy one of the unique ones

[proud talon]

map are a pain to get need map lv 3 for the quest

[shrewd heath]

what is the cheapest mf build?

[steady current]

I am working on the captain lance spark build and I had a question about Energy Shield. I noticed that in the passivce lance picks up a lot of increased energy shield and es recharge nodes. My understanding is that increases to energy shield don't change how much mana I have when I have Eldritch Battery. So why is he picking them? I can only imagine its for the everlasting amulet. But if I have not gotten that yet is there any reason to them?

[thorny token]

if you dont have it then no no reason

[steady current]

ok just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something thanks

[halcyon solar]

has anyone messed with the new Neversink filter?

[mental ember]

rate pathing

[tidal copper]

PoE of jewel
Oh you missed a notable in the monk ev/es

[dawn spire]

Save a point there

Also those jewels better be damn good to warrant 3 points each

[dawn spire]

That notable is actually kinda ass lol

[tidal copper]

It is? What's the text

[mystic shard]

mana flare has 1 internal sec cd, is there any way to work around this?

[dawn spire]

I think it's something like conditional es recharge rate increase

[mental ember]

idk if shock is worth it

[dawn spire]

If you have 6 of those yeah, probably worth

[mental ember]

but it like ends up with more dmg so w/e

[dawn spire]

100% increased magnitude of shock brings you from 20% inc damage taken to 40%, or 17% more damage

[mental ember]

ite good to know

[dawn spire]

So if you have 6 of those, that's 210% inc shock magnitude

Or 62% inc damage taken

Or 35% more damage

[tidal copper]

I would take 3 MS but yeah not much defensive utility

[dawn spire]

Compared to no shock magnitude

[dawn spire]

Oh, true, I didn't know it had movement. I'd take it for one point for that alone (which you basically are, anyway)

[mental ember]

i forgot to include this

[upper viper]

Isnt that best to add if you are CI ?

[tidal copper]

Best to add yes

[mental ember]

i got flask scaling

somewhere

in the build

[upper viper]

Yeah, but there are things that can bypass energy shield ?

and take your life

[tidal copper]

Somewhere

[mental ember]

ah ye in the belt and ascendancy points

[livid flume]

why does fubgub run orb of storms and cast on shock? are those worth it?

[cyan igloo]

Has pob2 come out yet?

[mental ember]

i think they are bugged

[tidal copper]

The tech is to use the armour that makes mana into life regen

[atomic halo]

it's delayed, expected 15th or so

[cyan igloo]

I see, thanks!

[mental ember]

if u read his build guide u'd know

[upper viper]

They gonna be fixing it XD

[mental ember]

shiver me timbers

[eternal steppe]

The " critical hits ignore elemental resistances" works on chaos damage too right

[upper viper]

Should not, as chaos is not elemental 😄

[eternal steppe]

That's what I was wondering

[dark lintel]

what's better here?

[static talon]

Does anyone know when POB is getting released for POE2 today? saw announcement was 1/13/2025

[brisk spire]

Hi everyone! Im a spark sorc, any idea why my HP is 1/3,661 instead of 1/1? am I doing anything wrong here?

[upper viper]

dont know where the dev is located, but we gotta wait on his release 😄

[upper viper]

think its just visual, see many streamers with the same issue

that are CI

[brisk spire]

Last time I see youtubers’s Hp Is 1/1

[upper viper]

Its prob random from player to player when it happens

[static talon]

I can't wait for it honestly. probably my favorite thing to do when im at work and it's not lunch time

[jovial blade]

does cast on x support skills with long cooldowns?

[fiery sable]

Can Against the darkness be rerolled with divines?

[upper viper]

If you right click the divine, does the jewel light up. But yeah, its unique, should pretty much be able to roll it

[cyan igloo]

An involer cast on crit spell becomes much less frequent when you add a cd support to it so I think yes!

[fiery sable]

it does, but someone else said it can't be rerolled, which I thought it to be odd

[upper viper]

Hmm, than i guess not. Maybe the numbers can be rerolled. But not the mod itself ?

[fiery sable]

this is what would make sense

[upper viper]

would love to test on mine, but i am broke as shet right now. XD

[left vortex]

Is +% dmg to herald skills a bait stat? i have a triple herald dmg build and the doomslayer node on the tree gives 80% total herald dmg

bcs i see not a single guide similar to my build mentioning it but it seems insanely good for any herald build

[jovial blade]

does that mean it disregards cooldown? as long as it get triggered?

[cyan igloo]

It obeys cooldowns, from my experience

The skill has 0.2s cd ir something by default. I added a support which adds 8 sec cd and it only procced once every 8 sec or so, while it was procing multiple times per sec before that

[jovial blade]

Ohhh okay thanks.

[fading ether]

where do you download Pob builder for poe2?

[primal sluice]

Hey guys, is lightning exposure gem for spark worth it for bosses?
Not sure if i should go with exposure, or just use another gem to get more DPS instead.
i already have a lot of shock magnitude, not sure if exposure adds up to it or what

[tidal copper]

Monsters have max resistance of 75 I believe

[upper viper]

delayed

[mystic shard]

does inspiration reduce the energy cost of skills on (cast on whatever)

or just mana

[dawn spire]

Inspiration or the trigger gem should specify. I don't think "energy" is ever called a cost

Trigger gems cast socketed spells when they reach a certain amount of energy

Or a number of times based on energy

[primal sluice]

Also i dont get putting exposure gem on orb of storms. If my spark already put shock, then orb of storms no longer can right? And it wont put exposure then since it works on shock

[dawn spire]

It can, but the enemy will only be affected by the strongest shock. So orb can still shock a shocked enemy, but the spark shock will take priority

Assuming the spark shock is stronger, but it might not be, tbh

Usually shocks from different skills have the same magnitude

[primal sluice]

yeah, i`m just thinking of ways to put exposure on bosses, will do some testing, but probably will have to sacrifice support slot on spark for it

not sure how important is exposure tho

I need it only if mob is resistant right ?

and i already have 60% resistance penetration

[dawn spire]

If you have that much pen, exposure isn't gonna do anything

If you have more pen than exposure, it's worthless unless the enemy has less resistance than your exposure

[primal sluice]

also does 60% penetration means i lower resistance by 60%, or that i lower it by 60% of 75% enemy has?

[proud talon]

is it even possible to regen 5% hp per second?

[dawn spire]

So if you have 20% exposure and 60% pen, the exposure is unless unless the enemy has less than 20% res. And if it does, all your pen is worthless

[dawn spire]

It's additive

75% goes to 15% with 60% pen

[primal sluice]

ah, then i dont need exposure at all

golden res is 75% or 100%?

[dawn spire]

Yeah most people build for one or the other

[proud talon]

yeah with incineration skill gem and skill points i get 77% fire penetration

[primal sluice]

not sure what is starting value

[dawn spire]

Some maps have mods that lower your res or mobs that curse or expose, I think. So a buffer on top is ideal, yeah

[primal sluice]

i mean bosses res

[merry bone]

depends on how much HP you have. Life regen values on gear are flat values and are then scaled by Life regen rate - you could get to 5% of your HP pool dependingo n your HP Pool

[dawn spire]

Not a clue

[primal sluice]

so i know what pen i aim for

[proud talon]

im using the unique armor which convert half my hp to shield( infernalist )

want to get a build to keep the transformation forever

will probably change element currently playing fire but its just trash for end game sadly...

[merry bone]

pen can never take a mob negative - so aiming for it to be too high can be wasteful in most cases. Toss up a curse and your 60% pen and you should be gucci.

[merry bone]

yea there is tech to use 2x Ming's hear to reduce life further - and a node on the tree - so basically your life pool is like 150hp - and then you can out regen the drain

[mystic shard]

my effing cascading commet

seems to hit for jack shit

i swear

[proud talon]

you need full perk on ice dmg full item for ice dmg etc i think

[stiff hinge]

comet has really high base dmg. are you self casting or triggering it

[proud talon]

tried using it with my current build with avatar of fire its just trash will just respe ice once the update is there i think they will lower price

[hardy tusk]

can i somehow increase the health of the bell on my monk

[jaunty geode]

Is this worth it?

[peak slate]

before buying an iteam is there a way i can test if it will increase my damage or not ?

[merry bone]

spreadsheets that you create yourself unfortunately

POB will be out "soon"

[upper viper]

when POB is out. Or you have to calculate yourself

[atomic halo]

they're hoping to get it out on the 15th

[torn sand]

How would you plan your build if you want to go for a Stormweaver Bow

[upper viper]

Yeah, they gotta take there time. Wish GGG would have their API out tho

[merry bone]

well id suggest you go to Maxrolls planner and start toying with the tree a bit, and skills - then if you have questions about your ideas, we can probably help.

[peak slate]

old vs new weapon

[proud talon]

weapon change everything got a 25% speel dmg trying to buy a 100%spell dmg he never answer mp

[vale heart]

how do you get 7k+ mana with mom and eldritch battery? I know about ingenuity + 2 mana breach rings but what else?

[mystic shard]

how do u get "power charges"

[merry bone]

good base ES on your gear - lost of mana passives

[torn sand]

Well I just want to play with Spark and abuse speed projectile

Not sure what skills I should go around that

[mystic shard]

**Dream Fragments (rings), Morior Grand Invictus with 5% mana per core.

2% mana soul cores.**

[merry bone]

sorry so you want to play Spark Stormweaver but use a bow?

[torn sand]

Yes

Basically

[merry bone]

but why

you are going to lose so much dmg from a wand

[torn sand]

Sounds bad?

[merry bone]

well it honestly doesnt sound like anything - you dont really have a plan here

Like what is the idea? Just play spark but carry a bow? Then - dont - just use a wand

[torn sand]

I don't have a plan

[merry bone]

what benefits do you feel youll get or want to capitalize on from using a bow?

[mystic shard]

if u wanted a bow, lightning rods

would be better

with electrocution arrow

and it chaining off itself

n stuff

not spark

[torn sand]

Well I can do that I guess

[mystic shard]

it also looks cooler tbh

[torn sand]

Don't I've to go for a ranger then?

[mystic shard]

how do ug et power/frenzy/endurance charges lol

i cant find anywhere

[mystic shard]

what do u wanna do?

are you set on using a bow?

u can still go stormweaver with a bow

[torn sand]

I noticed some ppl using a bow with stormweaver so I was curious

[merry bone]

most likely weapon swapping to

[upper viper]

would he not, just be able to use the Fub, deadeye leveling moba guide. And just use a sorc, i did that for my Merc and warrior

[regal turtle]

all the bow stormweaver builds are pretty much all using widowhail

[rapid current]

Can i build something good after saving 60 div for my stormweaver?

[merry bone]

sure

[rapid current]

cant find any guide on this budget and what to be looking for, just same as always res etc

[upper viper]

you can do a damn lot with 60div XD

[torn sand]

Yea it was that bow

Is it good?

[atomic halo]

it increases the bonuses you get from your quiver

you get proj speed, + to proj skill gems on quiver

lots of good stats

double wand still more damage but you can get a lot of proj speed which is fun

[torn sand]

I just found https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/935c1e59-4ac0-48b0-9eea-61b7d3f2af59/builds/7b160df7-047b-417f-bfa0-52919390b91b

[lilac hamlet]

Been checking the trading site and seems that won't be able to improve my weapon unless I spend a fortune. What jewels should I pursue? Don't have any meaningful ones equipped. Running triple element Ice Strike Invoker.

[torn sand]

Sounds fun for sure, this is only achievable in endgame I believe?

[atomic halo]

should be relatively mid budget

[torn sand]

Do you go for wand wand early game on Sorceress?

I use wand shield atm

[sullen nimbus]

is there a way to know the dps of the item i currently have so i can compare it to items on trade site?

[atomic halo]

you mean wand focus?

[atomic halo]

math

[torn sand]

No no wand shield

[atomic halo]

or list it yourself and check

[torn sand]

Someone ing told me to

[atomic halo]

idk that much abt spark tbh, if it works its fine

but anyway all you need is a decent roll widowhail and a quiver with the neccesary mods

check it yourself

[torn sand]

Alright

Btw, I made a ranger and currently in act 2 and I abuse Lighting Rod with the Orb

I eventually want to go for poison but idk when is the right time to do so.. I'm lvl 20

[lone rivet]

Hey, does controlled desctruction work on decompose from corpsewade boots? The support does say it increases ailment damage but it also says it supports ''skills that hit", while the poison cloud obviously does not hit

It does let me socket it though so idk

[stiff hinge]

You can go poison from 1 to endgame.

[upper viper]

dont care

[torn sand]

I see, I lack skill gems, where do I find more?

[stiff hinge]

Kill enemies.

Quest rewards.

[lapis cedar]

new world tier

[dawn spire]

New world is a pretty shit game

[lapis cedar]

irl

[upper viper]

agree 😂

[stiff hinge]

is that 78?

[dawn spire]

Oh, he found a place that millions of people already knew about?

[astral badger]

im messing with my weapon set skill points. both sets say i have 2 points left but i cant use them. why is this?

[lapis cedar]

i didnt have any t15's

[stiff hinge]

why is the clear so slow?

[dawn spire]

How do you get infinite dps?

[swift root]

How important is it to have increased rarity? It wasnt in my build planner I found on maxroll but it does seem to be better? I seen it labeled as Magix find?

[stiff hinge]

if you arent clearing off screen in 1 click, unless its HCSSF, its kind of not the best build you can be

[dawn spire]

Integers overflow, it's literally impossible

[upper viper]

By being smart.... with a a name like that, i doubt that is the case 😂

[stiff hinge]

it's not on HCSSF. It literally says on your name.

[lone rivet]

lmao

[dawn spire]

It says standard league on there.

[lone rivet]

sith lord AWUUU

[stiff hinge]

I dont think you even play ruthless. I play ruthless and never saw your char name on ladder.

[dawn spire]

Damn, I got baited too hard

Enjoy your infinite dps

[stiff hinge]

You mean you copied the showcase from r/poeruthless? lol.

[upper viper]

better start cleaning then 😂

[proud talon]

any way to be immune to freeze ? once im frozen im dead in end game map...

[lone rivet]

tfw your build looks smoother in actual ssf

[stiff hinge]

Unique ring, charm.

[merry bone]

this is the build planning channel - if you're done planning, time to move on

[dawn spire]

Infinite is incomprehensible by definition

[lapis cedar]

[stiff hinge]

Speaking of build planning, has anyone found a reasonable way to scale up firestorm? Even upping the limit to 3, it just seems like an extra suggestion.

[lapis cedar]

im ziz

[dawn spire]

Damn, how much does Elon pay you?

[upper viper]

haha

[stiff hinge]

is there a moderator command to clean this up?

[dawn spire]

Duration seems to be pretty solid

[upper viper]

dont know if we are allowed to tag em sadly XD

[merry bone]

firestorm kind of has a built in way to scale it - in that it consumes ignites - but its very very bad. Becasue it affects 1 bolt per ignite consumed

[stiff hinge]

Duration and +3 limit, but the hits seem so low compared to consuming ignite.

[orchid fable]

Hello, can someone help me with my arc build? Currently around 45k Dps but build doesn't feel right. I still get destroyed by so many things. Posted information here https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1i0jyk2/i_need_helpideas_around_my_crit_arc_build/?

[stiff hinge]

and consuming the ignite is only 1 bolt as ojn stated, so I tried triggering it but it's so meh.

The crit flameblast does 99% of the lifting. i specced out of ignite nodes as it.. did nothing.

[dawn spire]

Why not have two firestorms? One to ignite and two more to consume? Or vice-versa

[stiff hinge]

The limits are shared between multiple instances of the gem.

[dawn spire]

Yeah, but you can still have three

[stiff hinge]

that's been what I've been doing, but it just seems to be significantly weaker than just the flameblast.

🤣

I think firestorm and ignite were just forgotten. It's basically a crit flameblast build. It can do everything.. but it's just not fulfilling teh old firestorm fantasy that I played on ruthless last ladder to top 10 😦

[dawn spire]

Ah, I see. Firestorm might have solid utility as something that can repeatedly ignite stuff, then you use something that hits quickly and consumes Ignites like ball lightning

[upper viper]

Bro, you are just trying to start something werid. Go somewhere else, clearly see people are ignoring you right now 😂

[stiff hinge]

There's a weird ICD on re-applying ignite unless you use ED.

and the aoe is inconsistent to proc ignite. burning inscription is the best ignite proc.

or.. flame wall. or infernal legion.

or hellpuppu.

[mystic shard]

If anyone knows how u get power charges, @ me plz whenever.

[upper viper]

Combat frenzy, than convert those to power charges ?
If youre of course close to that node**

[stiff hinge]

You have a few choices.
Volls devotion, there's a red chest I forget the name of, resonance + combat frenzy and freezing or pinning are easy ways.

[astral badger]

im messing with my weapon set skill points. both sets say i have 2 points left but i cant use them. why is this?

[stiff hinge]

@mystic shard these guys. and combat frenzy + resonance, you cane ither pin or freeze.

[alpine fulcrum]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Power_charge

[stiff hinge]

I ran into this usually when there's asymmetry between the points, or if im not actually clicking something on the "Base" tree.

[mystic shard]

whast that atttack ur doing?

[stiff hinge]

He's using shattering concoction.

[lapis cedar]

throw a cold bomb

nuke god

[alpine fulcrum]

shattering concotion, pathfinder exclusive

[mystic shard]

i looked it up it doesn't really say, thx

[lapis cedar]

best build in the league

infinite dps

m2 kill everything

[stiff hinge]

It's an okay build. There are significantly better, and his implementation is poor so he is just baiting people to look at his strange clips. He's mostly here to spam the channel from what I am seeing.

[upper viper]

DId you check the combat frenzy and then use this node

[dawn spire]

You're not sharing anything. You posted what basically amounts to a kill reel with no explanation. It seems like you're flaunting rather than sharing

[alpine fulcrum]

not just this channel

[delicate aspen]

Yo bros, how would you go about building around Resonating Shield (I know it's not optimal, i'm bored and want to build around it). I have a level 20 warrior I want to level with that build.

[upper viper]

Just ignore him XD

[dawn spire]

Bait is so tasty tho

[stiff hinge]

I gave you all the easy-to-reach methods to obtain power charges if you look at what I sent and tagged you in.

[merry bone]

CI Shattering Concoction CoF Freezing Mark is actually solid AF - played it weeks ago already. Actually claps bosses too.

[mystic shard]

ok

thx

[lapis cedar]

a bealiever

[upper viper]

i know, but for now. Eat your nails instead XD

prob healthier

[lapis cedar]

what do u want me to say

i post build u ask questions

[merry bone]

sure - but the build has guides - so its been planned. Time to move on now. We are trying to help people in the help channels.

[alpine fulcrum]

yea its good, but the next thing is making him believe that his build is not original nor top meta

[mystic shard]

so u cant get power charges without certain items?

[stiff hinge]

Indeed, but the bar is pretty low. Some builds underperform, and plenty overperform. It's strange to not use temporalis and a better hoi clear to just wipe screens as you fly. But the best clear PF is probably decompose temporalis since you are consistently offscreening everywhere and can single target any boss.

[dawn spire]

This channel is for build planning and theorycrafting. It sounds like your build is already planned and theory crafted so I don't see what purpose it has here

[alpine fulcrum]

you can, some skills grant power charges, look hrough the stuff listed on the wiki

[lapis cedar]

there is still multiple fine tunings to be done for even more dps

[stiff hinge]

He has no purpose, he's not even a real ruthless player.

[alpine fulcrum]

nor ssf

[stiff hinge]

You can use RESONANCE and COMBAT FRENZY with PIN OR FREEZE.
Or you can use UNIQUE ITEMS.

[dawn spire]

Nor hc

[lapis cedar]

ive told u this

i solo self found my gear on trade site

[dawn spire]

Resonance is a keystone and combat frenzy is a spirit gem. And technically all gems are items, so you're technically correct

[upper viper]

We need a darth

[lapis cedar]

ok well since u dont wanna engage with my infinite scaling build nor discuss more optimals to it ill leave

trying to help educate

[turbid cape]

do you guys think pconc or gas arrow is better?

[lapis cedar]

frozen

[hardy tusk]

can i increase the life/duration on the monk bell

[lapis cedar]

poison is only good for beginer

[mystic shard]

right well guess im just fucking pwoer charges

[upper viper]

Skill duration i think it is, that does that

[alpine fulcrum]

pconc prob

[turbid cape]

ok thanks

[vast egret]

when patch

[alpine fulcrum]

but gotta use widowhail + a good quiver

[turbid cape]

yeah i got widowhail, still leveling tho ill look out for a quiver

[lapis cedar]

nodders

[stiff hinge]

Both are viable, but the barrier for entry on pconc is much lower so you hit higher damage with less effort.

[alpine fulcrum]

when u see that its announcec on the news channel

[turbid cape]

appreciate the feedback

im def having fun playing pconc with contagion

im just having attribute and es issues

[stiff hinge]

The convenient bit is you gain links with character level. So your 6th link is handed to you at level 90, less RNG reliant.

If you aren't self found though it's less of a factor, it does not take much farm to trade and get a perfect.

[fierce vine]

Is the monk bell getting nerfed in the new update?

[lapis cedar]

ok well ill try type more cohesive next time

@alpine fulcrum

i delete all message

[stiff hinge]

Nobody can give you a definite answer.

GGG in the last interview hinted at some perspective that they have a certain baseline they want to reach, and some things overperform and some things underperform.
Best to wait until the balance manifesto coming in the later months imo.

[lapis cedar]

no need for anger or hate

[alpine fulcrum]

wont check im busy, x86 assembler loves throwing segmentation faults

[stiff hinge]

Given Mark's comments on "comets per second," I am expecting trigger spam to get a balance pass.

It's not good for the game nor the server.

[stiff hinge]

Did you know x86asm has syntax highlighting in discord?

 push ebp
  mov ebp, esp
  mov eax, [ebp + 8]
  mov edx, [ebp + 12]
  add eax, edx
  pop ebp
  ret```

I don't think arm or avr do, though.

[alpine fulcrum]

nice, gtk, that wont help tho

[stiff hinge]

A large part of your attribute issues can be fixed with a quiver. Quiver with dexterity and the quiver effect nodes on tree will solve dexterity problems, letting you put points into intelligence. Better int -> better int bases for ES.

[midnight geode]

guys is there a difference between those two? Why are they written differently

[stiff hinge]

The first one only applies to attacks. The second one is generic, so it can apply to spells.

[midnight geode]

ooh aight ty

[lapis cedar]

for some reason spells arnt attacks

[stiff hinge]

Reminder that something has to hit to be able to crit, though. So not all spells.

[crimson kite]

why is my mantra of destruction not gaining combo?

[midnight geode]

yeah makes sense

[turbid cape]

which nodes would those be?

[turbid cape]

oh shit, thank you

[midnight geode]

need some insight with a build i put together just now, cuz i wanna make sure it wont be shit before i invest into it. The idea is to use snipe, double marking and barrage for bossing (the shock magnitude is cuz i use lightning infusion and armor break, so the first projectile breaks armor and shocks the enemy and the rest do most of the damage), i know this will most likely work fine since i basically copied it from a guy who was one shotting t17 bosses. Then ice shot, herald of ice and shock on crit for mapping while using barrage here too for rares. Thoughts? Should i change anything?

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/c43fe02a

[stiff hinge]

You want +projectile skill levels on quiver anyway, so this lets you get a higher effect of that node. The best stats to look out for on quivers as you progress in campaign with pconc are +proj skills, and +dexterity.

[stiff hinge]

How are you double marking without +1 mark limit?

[midnight geode]

ascendency

[turbid cape]

yeah i definitely gotta find a quiver with proj and dex

[stiff hinge]

Ah sorry, I didnt see you had it assigned.
LGTM but I prefer single mark and getting point blank.

with point blank + this node I get a lot more damage.

[midnight geode]

i mean i just copied it, id rather use 1 mark as well tbh and put the points on the dmg reduction

if its better or at least the same

[midnight geode]

dont u find it annoying? having to stay close always

[stiff hinge]

No. I play volley+snipe since ladder start so ive had some experience messing around with it.

You dont stay close always -- you stay close to snipe stuff you want to die fast.

For 99.9% of enemies, you will not need the damage buff of pb+stand and deliver. But for stuff you really want to die, you want any more damage you can get.

The other thing I would grab on the clear / volley set up would be this.

Otherwise it feels really shit on indoors maps.

(So put it on the skill tree for your volley i.e. tree #2. I find this to be massive QoL)

[midnight geode]

im not using volley, but itll probably work with ice shot too

thx man ill make the changes rq

oh also, if i were to use 1 mark (the shock one most likely) in order to take wind ward, what should i replace snipers mark with?

[stiff hinge]

There are also two crit multi nodes you can assign the snipe tree if you want more.

[stiff hinge]

You want sniper's mark because it's how you will generate charges on bosses if you don't 1shot or if you F!@# up the execution.

[past dust]

how is % damage taked from mana any different than +% extra life? in practice.

[light dew]

increases to weapon damage affect every stat right? on that weapon

[midnight geode]

yeah thats true

hope my survivability gonna be fine without it

[dawn spire]

They're both more effective hp in the end. But if you have 50% of damage taken from mana before life and you have mana equal to your life, you basically have twice as much ehp

[midnight geode]

this is what i meant, sry pasted the wrong link

[crimson kite]

Please someone ^

[stiff hinge]

Catalysis is a very powerful 2-pointer for survivability.
Hybrid ES/EVA is arguably significantly better than pure eva, I've tried both flavors and strongly prefer hybrid ES/EVA. Due to quiver effect nodes and/or jewels, the attribute problem is more or less solved for int/dex.

[dawn spire]

You can also get way more mana regen than life regen

[dawn spire]

What skill are you using to build combo?

[past dust]

its strange that there is 0 life nodes when there are the mana before life

its like they just hate gife tanking

[dawn spire]

Yeah that was intentional. They removed almost all the life nodes from the tree compared to poe1.

[stiff hinge]

So the reason I prefer these wheels is because it's perfect placement for a timeless emerald, if you can get a good one.

[dawn spire]

Str gives life tho

[midnight geode]

if i wanna go hybrid, should i take subterfuge mask and spectral ward, or just go with eva/es gear?

[midnight geode]

ooooh

[stiff hinge]

That's pretty much what I do.

[midnight geode]

i see

[midnight geode]

u take the nodes?

[past dust]

tiiiiny tiny lite bit of extra life unless your geming

[midnight geode]

or go with eva/es gear

[dawn spire]

Kripp's infernalist had like 3k+ life

[stiff hinge]

I path to those nodes.
The reason I dislike pure EVA is because I randomly die. I find randomly dying on a build unplayable. On PoE1 ruthless ladder, the XP penalty is very high. On PoE2, you lose map and all the +nodes that come with it. Rather clear slower and survive more often.

[midnight geode]

yeah true i also find it annoying, i should probably unspecc this whole path right?

[stiff hinge]

I had that path originally because I wanted jewel socket but I specced our of it later. Up to you.

[crimson kite]

it builds for other abilities. tempest flurry

[midnight geode]

aight ill probably do the same

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot tempest flurry?

[midnight geode]

one last thing, would ghost dance work? with the es

[midnight geode]

it worked pretty well on my witchhunter, but i was using sorcery ward

[stiff hinge]

Yes. I use grim feast to map and ghost dance on boss.

[midnight geode]

ah nice ill look into that

thx a lot

[stiff hinge]

This feels much tankier than high evasion and 2.5k life. Grim feast overflows to 2k ES.

and my hat is actually bad (group self found woes)
If you are tradecore, you can easily get 400+ES hat.

[marsh jasper]

any good invoker monk build that can shred pinnacle bosses in 15 divines?

[midnight geode]

damn

[dawn spire]

Did you enable it by right clicking it in the gem panel?
Edit:nvm, it's not a spirit gem

[midnight geode]

tbh i never used grim feast before, didnt even know it existed lol

[stiff hinge]

It is arguably the strongest defense in the game atm.

[midnight geode]

so i basically go full eva everywhere and es on helmet? and take those nodes i mentioned?

[crimson kite]

it's not a spriti reservation skill

right clicking it does nothing

[dawn spire]

Yeah, my b

What is mantra linked to?

[stiff hinge]

You get ES helmet, hybrid ES/EVA chest, gloves/boots you can go either way. I haven't found good hybrid eva/es boots and gloves but the chest being hybrid and helmet being pure ES is where I got the best mileage.

[midnight geode]

thx a lot man

u min if i tag u from time to time to ask questions?

xd

[crimson kite]

the only 2 suppots ti can link to, murderous intent and premeditioant

[stiff hinge]

And regarding ghost dance, you can link it to less duration, I'm pretty sure it gives you faster time between ghost shrouds.
at 12k eva, each shroud pops up 600ES when I'm hit. The sustain feels really good on bosses.
And for mapping just yolo grim feast. you basically cant die.

[crimson kite]

oh I had weapon set 1 unchecked

[midnight geode]

sickk

[rotund moss]

28492 is the min max value for that node

[midnight geode]

im so excited i was sceptical if this build is gonna work

[stiff hinge]

And the other thing I mentioned, that area for the timeless, here is what a large radius looks like:

so it catches 3 notables and 7 small passives in that spot.

[midnight geode]

are there time lost jewels that give eva? or max es?

[stiff hinge]

Probably? I've only done like 50 or so trials so I havent found that many.

[midnight geode]

oh ur ssf

[stiff hinge]

Mostly been finding time lost rubies.

[midnight geode]

aight

[stiff hinge]

group self found but same principle

i got last flame and temporalis before I got a lot of timeless emeralds. so many rubies though.

[midnight geode]

im a trade league andy

wouldnt understand

[stiff hinge]

nothing wrong with that. You can check what can roll on timeless in poe2db.

[midnight geode]

actually i have an hcssf lv64 titan i gave up on

forgot about him

[stiff hinge]

So you can get 2-3% eva

ES I think is on time lost sapphire

[midnight geode]

nice

[stiff hinge]

But you'd want an emerald for the damage.

The pin buildup is QoL.

[midnight geode]

pin helps get charges too with combat frenzy

[stiff hinge]

(I use pin to generate frenzies + tank more while mapping. I am volley, though)

[midnight geode]

tho ill get most of mine from freeze

[stiff hinge]

You can get damage with bows, attack speed with bows, crit damage on a good emerlad.

Sadly I don't have enough chaos.

I've seen easily over a thousand exalts but nowhere near that amount in chaos to continue slapping these timeless jewels I've found. :T

[midnight geode]

ripp

[cobalt abyss]

What armor would you guys recommend for a monk ?

A specific name ?

[midnight geode]

its the main reason i play trade league, i wanna minmax my builds to the fullest

[hollow galleon]

do ppl swap potions for bossing? i feel like regaining x resource on kill sucks on certain boss fights

[stiff hinge]

I try to set up my flasks to not really be necessary while mapping, so gain charges per sec is my preferred mod.

[merry bone]

dont really recommend too many unique armours for Monk - since they can get decent scaling off their chest with a rare depending on how you build it

[upbeat pumice]

projectile speed or att damage on quiver which will give more?

dont want to spend like 5divs to buy quiver and get lower dps... how to calculate who will give more

[spare quartz]

Put on a quiver with 20% increased damage with bows, and one with 20% projectiles speed and check the dps stat on one of your skills. Or test on a boss near a checkpoint

Damage with bows doesnt require you to get a passive node to be useful like the projectile speed does

[upbeat pumice]

tryed to switch pasivs from proj 20% dmg to 16% speed and got like -500 dps with speed

[tidal copper]

Projectile speed gives same DMG assuming you get that node?
Can you use this with concoctions?

[upbeat pumice]

want to upgrade these and dont want to buy like quiver for 10 divd and get same stats ;D

or try luck and buy omen of whittling and delete critical hit chance 😄

lowest roll on quiver

[twilit cairn]

why do i wanna turn frenzy charges into endurance charges as an ice strike monk?

[urban summit]

what dmg do you scale if you main dmg is igniting gas arrow ?

[cobalt abyss]

I'm thinking for the 1 spirit per evade and mana shield kinda armor

I dont know what type of armor i should search for in trade 😅

[brisk kayak]

Can anyone in here give me some help in voice chat help room 1, I am having a real issue with rings and my build

[urban summit]

so fire, elemental and phy dmg. right ?

[merry bone]

unavailable to get in voice - but if you have a question -can answer it here most likely

[tidal copper]

Yesnt
AFAIK the explosion get all your DMG no matter the type and transforms physical into fire
You could in theory just use lightning cold or chaos

[brisk kayak]

I have bought a belt,( ingenuity) I am trying to improve my rings to suit it, but im getting some weird results, maybe I'm just dumb !

[merry bone]

You just get rings with whatever stats you want in large quantities so they get multiplied.

What build is it?

[urban summit]

ah okay okay, im trying to get gas arrow to ignite on hit cause im on ssf and getting the radiant grief is going to take a whil

while*

[merry bone]

if you want gas arrow to ignite on hit - you are talking about the initial ARROW hitting - and that has to do fire dmg - so you will need flat fire dmg on your weapon/rings to cause it to do fire dmg.

I really would not plan for that. Flame wall set up is very easy to use - and allows you to stack Gas Clouds - then flame wall and destroy the entire screen because they had time to expand

[urban summit]

yeah thats what im doing its just it doesnt always ignite so trying to make it work

[urban summit]

flame wall is too slow

[merry bone]

Fortress / Cascade / Mobility support

I actually really like Solar Orb too - i just stack glas clouds - drop the orb next to one of the mobs and BOOM the whole screen (SSF also)

[graceful patrol]

is pob 2 coming out today

[dim void]

If I already have spafhettification, polymath, and Falcon technique on my skill tree, what would be the best infusion for my amulet? Stat stacker monk. Currently thinking either insightfulness or vulgar methods/overwhelming strike.

I only have 35% crit but can probably bump that a bit with better jewels.

It's a definitely a "win more" thing, but who doesn't love winning more?

[vernal falcon]

Anyone try a temporalis, gemling legionaire int stacking elemental discharge build yet?

[thin basin]

Theres a cooldown for ailment reapplication you would have to play 2 buttons build

[stiff hinge]

the only way around it is with burning inscription essence drain shennanigans

[old oriole]

are lightning modifiers for breach ring better than attack modifiers?

[vernal falcon]

true, unless you played infernalist doggo instead

[thin basin]

I tried flame wall and shock ground

Both have like either a sec or half a sec of reapplication after removal

Wouldve been a fire build tho

[hard gull]

Hi guys. I am playing an element sorceress with focus on ice but I want to able to reliably shock/ignite. Ignite is easy because of solar orb. But how to shock? I tried asc "every damage shocks" but that doesn't trigger much. Any recommendation?

[wild dirge]

any way to gain quality on non-gemling ascendancy skills, i.e. sorcery ward?

[stiff hinge]

ball lightning + lightning warp

[hard gull]

@stiff hinge so I have to use an energy skill? The asc skill is kinda of useless then?

[past dust]

anyone got any ideas how to save survivability on this build? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/pb3kj0nb

I dont car about bosses I just dont want to get oneshot while mapping

[stiff hinge]

You can shock with shock chance and lightning damage, unless you are a stormweaver then the damage type is irrelevant.

[hard gull]

I have shaper of storms.

[stiff hinge]

Then get shock chance and do more damage. BL+LW is just guaranteed shocked ground, you said elemental sorceress which did not give me information that you were a stormweaver with shaper of storms.

[stiff hinge]

I have not found a way to do this yet. I would assume it's not in the game yet.

[hard gull]

@stiff hinge Ok. Thanks then let me try BL and see how it turns out. Cause shaper alone is not enough to trigger it. Reliably

[stiff hinge]

Kind of weird that these don't interact.

[stiff hinge]

You need shock chance and damage. The node is not "you shock everything," it's all your damage can shock.

[hard gull]

Yes I get that but I thought that just my general boni to apply afflications would be enough.

[stiff hinge]

Monsters have ailment threshold. Damage helps, chance helps.

[slim cobalt]

if you use call of the brotherhood to convert lightning to cold, can skills like lightning rod and ball lightning still shock?

[static plinth]

No

[west sierra]

I'm running a Barrier Incovation Infernalist with comet. With 84% Fire resistance and 121% recoup, I ramp using Hypothermia which triggers my Infernal Flame self damage. I'm also using Demon Stitcher gloves to Sac 15% max hp and get that amount as Energy Shield. (Thus regenerating energy shield to be lost for Barrier Invocation to gain energy)

I can trigger BI Comet casts with Hypothermia, but I'm unable to get a loop direct from the Comet itself. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Advice?

[cobalt abyss]

I'm using Lead me through Grace on my monk and I'm wondering what is the best choice for armor for 200+ spirit, Pure evade, pure energy shield or Hybrid ?

[thick skiff]

are they patching gemling spin2win

[wintry osprey]

ES is OP. Going ES and Evasion if you’re invoker is the play, imo. With good enough body armor, you can run 6 persistent buffs with all the spirit you can get.

Combo that with chaos inoculation and resistances are easy to get dialed. End game becomes cake after that.

[cobalt abyss]

Thank you

[wintry osprey]

There are some decent ES nodes that you can run to on the north side of the monk main branch that can make up the difference for your ES.

[cobalt abyss]

Do you have the name of an armor i can search for in trade ?

[wet mango]

not phys

[wet mango]

gas arrow cannot ignite

[urban summit]

Well it can cause iv done it before just not 100% of the time

[mystic shard]

so with 80% fire resist, on normal, not cruel (and energy shield) I could stand in mektuls lava quite a bit, was doing like 40 dps per second to me on ES.

(ultra fast more dmg when had no ES)

How much bigger is the dmg when u have ES on cruel?

[urban summit]

And the explosion says it converts phy to fire so wdym

[mystic shard]

|
Cant find any numbers on his monster page

[wet mango]

ah my bad I got it confused with payoff skills

[wet mango]

%incr phys dmg (as a global mod) will not affect your damage output

[urban summit]

Yeah but on skill tree it does

[indigo pilot]

Planning to start an SSF character. Anyone have suggestions for a build that is less reliant on good gear? Never played SSF before

[green minnow]

damage :/

[dawn spire]

Get better weapon (https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1328202289755983932 helps)

Aside from that, try new supports, read more about your skills, and see if you can find a combo that does more damage

Or use jewelers orbs to add more sockets

[crude zealot]

Does Firestorm consume ignites created by Flame Wall? I wonder how I can get some consistent ignite source if I convert 90%+ fire damage to cold.

[dawn spire]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1326972100409426081 is pretty great for leveling

[dreamy violet]

hey guys really been confused in terms of builds with shadow

[static plinth]

Woah time traveler

#1┃build-planning

[oblique ferry]

Anyone playing a Deadeye without exploits?
Could you help me figure out how to get high single target DPS without exploits?
#1328474370275803237 message

[dreamy violet]

just got a vaal smite gem and the lightning ability seems really cool, how should i build around that?

[static plinth]

#1┃build-planning This is for PoE2

[dreamy violet]

oh my bad

[static plinth]

Wdym without exploits

[oblique ferry]

there's no way Lightning Rod + Cast on Shock + Ball Lightning is intended behavior

[static plinth]

It is

[thorny token]

its not

[static plinth]

Whether its too strong is another question

[thorny token]

lightning rod specifically states chaining beams

BL is not chaining beam

[static plinth]

Does Ball Lightning not send out beams to hit enemies?

[oblique ferry]

it's absolutely not intended, you can one shot pinnacle bosses when you enter T1 maps

[thorny token]

it is not chaining beam

this is what rod says, it is very specific

[mystic shard]

i mean the arrows it chains off of aren't beams either

[thorny token]

LA has chaining beams, so does OOS

and those chain from the rods as they are supposed to

[mystic shard]

what do u cast on shock?

[oblique ferry]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/g52190f0

[mystic shard]

oh so, eh, do u cast ball lightning manually too?

[oblique ferry]

no, I shock with lightning rod
and the endgame boss just dies

[mystic shard]

oh hmm, so u use the rods then shoot arrows? or just keep shooting the rods and they proc htemselves?

[oblique ferry]

when I shock with rods, it procs ball lightning which procs cast on shock and loops

[mystic shard]

yes but what do u use to shock with teh rods

[oblique ferry]

the rods themselves

[mystic shard]

ok thanks

thats wha tI was asking =P

thank u

if u just used a lowbie bow and low level lightning rod

would this still work?

or is the physical dmg on the bow really important

[oblique ferry]

I never tested with a shitty bow, but it should still be insanely strong either way

[safe trench]

Hello I leveled up a blood mage thinking detonating dead was cool but keeping the direction and trying to aim the brute is making me not like the character. I dont have the energy to make another character from scratch. What can I do?

[primal sluice]

Hey guys, i already have all normal rare EQ with as much mana and as much energy shield (eldrich battery) that i can.
If totalled to 3800mana.
What is the next step in getting my mana higher? Do i already need 100 divs for better items, or is there something else than can push me a couple hundred up?

[unkempt trellis]

Is Gemling HOWA without Pillar viable?

[upper viper]

i did it, was fine

[west sierra]

Try unique wand with 25% chance not to consume corpse

[unkempt trellis]

Can you give me pointers? Namely the Skill Tree and weapon you used

I am thinking of going MoM and ES but it's a long trek to get there

[safe trench]

I'm using that

[upper viper]

I used a high DPS staff. And then the node that gives attack speed per # dexterity. And then the gloves. I think i had dex at like 500 and int at like 460-480