2┃build-planning

[thorny token]

that you scale to be almost full screen size

[serene isle]

oh yeah even stronger then

[thorny token]

you still run herald of ash on top

and when you kill something with splash

herald of ash kills more stuff around

etc

[serene isle]

letmefind a 1div mace on trade

[thorny token]

only important support is magnified effect

rest just standard

or if you want to add more explosions then armour explosion

or the ingite explosion

or something that I think migth have potential, but i havent tested yet

impact shockwave

[still rock]

oh mag effect affects the implicit radius?

pog

[thorny token]

yea

impact shockwave and armour explosion require crushing blows from titan tho

for instant heavy stun

but the ignite explosion works well enough without

[still rock]

titan best class

[serene isle]

physical damage is so low though? my hammer hits at 600+ physical

compare https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/XXZd2G7cP

[thorny token]

well yes the base has less base phys

so it will be slightly lower dps

[serene isle]

guess this one is ok no?

[thorny token]

and also you are paying premium for implicit

[serene isle]

I need reduced attribute

[thorny token]

this one is good

100% edwa and reduced attr and stun building

[serene isle]

thx gonna whisp

[thorny token]

you dont care about attack speed that much

so sorting by dps doesnt matter

just by damage

[serene isle]

yeah def

it's not wow

I think I never have mace button in auto attack mode

[thorny token]

default mace attack op :d

[serene isle]

I mean auto attack like in wow

[thorny token]

ah yea

[serene isle]

where dps matters$

[thorny token]

all your damage is just from 1 hit hammer or perfect strike

thats another thing i did not rly liked about the warrior setup btw i think using both perfect strike and hammer is better

[serene isle]

that's what I do

though perfect strike is so slow

[thorny token]

it is

[hearty reef]

So, there are over 3000 Megalomaniac diamonds on the trade site, but im not seeing a way to search for specific allocations, the site only shows 100 by default :/ is there any way I can tell it to only show specific allocations?

[thorny token]

but its good clutch

[serene isle]

guy doesnt respond, this one good too no? removed attack speed

[thorny token]

yea looks good too

[serene isle]

thx bought it

now gonnna respec everything lol. thx for infos hope I will finally ascend4

though I dont thinnk this build isreally better than minne againstbosses

it's basically the same thing

[thorny token]

yea i mean in the end its just hammer

for bosses

but i think the clear part is way more important

[midnight bolt]

yes, look up there is reddit post explaining it

[thorny token]

as you shouldnt struggle with bosses anyway as warriro

[golden violet]

im not sure familiar with the class, any sample build i could look into that uses this appraoch?

[serene isle]

the issue with boss is they one shot me usually

3500 hp full res

[thorny token]

yea the chest upgrade will help with that eventually

and also more str

[midnight bolt]

time try ES

[serene isle]

yeah need 2 divs

[thorny token]

well the one i linked before

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/n2j20b6q

[golden violet]

must have missed it, thank you!

[thorny token]

also if you were no giants blood before that will also be big surv upgrade no

based on what you linked before

block is prett gud

[serene isle]

nah I'm giant blood now with the unique shield

that heals on block

[thorny token]

ah, alright

for bosses you can go with high block shield instead of that unique

[upbeat patio]

How we looking?

[thorny token]

will perform better

or the shield that blocks all damage

the % recover on block is only good for mapping pretty much imo

[serene isle]

what are the red and green passives skills on the tree? points from campaign?

[thorny token]

which ones

on wep swap points

[tidal copper]

You are looking a bit armour heavy for 2024

[thorny token]

but you need 2 good weapon for that

so just ignore imo

[tidal copper]

We are getting buffs soon copium

[thorny token]

can just follow the tree i linked instead

yea wep swap points

[serene isle]

ok so I just follow the white skills

[thorny token]

well no you need those damage passives too

[serene isle]

right so red must be trash and green boss

[thorny token]

pretty much

[upbeat patio]

how so

[serene isle]

but I thinkn I gonna just use trash spec for now

on controller seemsmessy to use 2set

[thorny token]

as i said imo you should just follow the tree i linked instead

[serene isle]

aight

[thorny token]

its much more straightforward

[serene isle]

this onne

[thorny token]

but only have screenshot for it but i think you should be able to see

[serene isle]

yeap fine

[thorny token]

the max res stuff is lowest priority if you are lower level

[serene isle]

89

[thorny token]

ok let me adjust it for 89 then sec

[tidal copper]

People say it's really bad if you are invoker with the armour ascendency I will recommend trying something different it might feel better

[upbeat patio]

whats that?

[tidal copper]

Top path with the spirit for armour and evasion chest piece

[thorny token]

this would be 89

[serene isle]

thx

only str nodes for attr?

[thorny token]

wym?

oh

yea

like 2 points max into dex and int

rest str

[serene isle]

yes and then gear for the max hp armor

thx a lot gonna try all that

[thorny token]

yep

and make sure to get some decent jewels too

[serene isle]

well you still use the skills of the russian guy tho right?

[thorny token]

as that tree grabs a bunch of them

[serene isle]

stampede and stuff

[thorny token]

the russian guy doesnt use stampede

[upbeat patio]

can u ss and show me what you mean?

[thorny token]

but yea the setup s pretty much the same

[serene isle]

oh yeah it's build 7 https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/n2j20b6q

[thorny token]

except instead of shield charge perfectstrike

also i wouldnt use break endurance i think its not that important for inferal cry

but its probs fine

rest same

time of need is debatable, i like overwhelming presence more

but either is fine

overwhelming will be way better on worse gear tho

so would recommend that

also if you dont have extra spirit just dont use herbalism/canibalism

[near timber]

how can i self inflict ignite on myself?

[thorny token]

that dude is getting the spirit from chest so yea

also i would use second wind as one of the hammer links

[tidal copper]

This points, many builds planned to use them and then discovered they were a bit disappointing
Might not be your build though

[thorny token]

so second wind, eternal flame, searing flame, conc effect

on 5 link

if you dont have 6 yet

and the other damage supports on perfect strike/mace strike

[upbeat patio]

i have both of those already

[upbeat patio]

my armors only at 247

but i do hace that skill on

[real flax]

Why ppl adding lightning dmg to herald of ice and cold dmg to herald of lightning? How it works?

[tidal copper]

Herald of ice triggers on frozen enemies and herald of thunder on shocked ones and they can't shock/freeze themselves
But what if HoT freezes and HoI shocks

[winter vortex]

sparkk build

[real flax]

ok, if that works like that it make sense, ty 🙂

[tidal copper]

Look for patches it's likely on the watch list

[winter vortex]

should I go frazzled, or conservative casting on the Everlasting amulet for spark build?

[tidal copper]

What does the text say in each? It's probably just preference/slight DMG difference

[winter vortex]

frazzled (15% mana regen / 30% shock magnitude), conservation (20% mana regen/ 8% skill mana cost)

does damage modifier happen before, or after the damage buff? (Example: fire damage up + fire to ice gloves = ice damage up?)

[thorny token]

increases and stuff apply after conversion

[winter vortex]

so.. convert fire to ice and then + ice damage

+fire wont work on gear since it is after. right?

[thorny token]

correct

[winter vortex]

thank you!

[tidal copper]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1326477293987823707

[versed beacon]

Hi guys, quick build question..

What are the best affixes to get on a Rattling Sceptre other than the high +% to Spirit??

[azure maple]

that + damage increase to nearby minions are a must

[azure maple]

this for example is a really good one

[waxen jewel]

IMO it's pretty lame that there are no weapon set specific skill slots similar to how there are 26 specialization points. The further I advance in the game, the more useless the swap mechanic becomes as I'm starving for skill slots.

Though IDK if I should say it's useless. I use it for shield dash + blink. But that's because i don't have to (read can't) stack them auras so heavily yet

[waxen jewel]

Pretty tough to drop 36% lightning resistance for that

Sure, I do get that there needs to be limited slots so there's some actual choices involved, but right now it feels like the devs don't want me to interact with that feature.

But I'm sure they got great plans for weapon sets. I trust GGG devs more than any!

[silent prawn]

If I want to go Poison, should I just focus on one skill or combine multiple Skills?
Like if there are overlapping Gas clouds from different sources, will they all do dmg?

[tidal copper]

I have found that starving for skill sockets is a bad build problem
I'm a terrible builder

[lyric solstice]

This is the item with 0 stats, you can get it with any amount of resists

[waxen jewel]

:(

[lyric solstice]

Mine has 80+ total resists

[waxen jewel]

Sure, but I'm speaking of the implicit mod. Any ring can have resistances. But only certain ones have it as implicit

But it's a good thing to mention though! I might 3-1 unset's if I'm overcapped on some res

[lyric solstice]

Poison magnitude depends on the initial hit dmg, and only stacks twice if not using modifiers so you would want to focus on one skill. There's naturally exceptions if there's synergies with other skills etc.

[waxen jewel]

Or what am I talking about, I'll 3-1 every jewelry and cruft everything out of them until level 100 as SSF.

[wet mango]

Only 1 poison will deal damage at a time (but there are ways of increasing that cap)

[wet mango]

They will all apply poison, but only the largest one will tick dmg

[lyric solstice]

My bad, the default stack amount is 1

You can easily get 2 immediately hence I forgot the min

[young hinge]

u can use vine arrow + whatever skill u choose to do ur main poison
vine arrow will just deal like 150% of ur poison extra

[tidal copper]

Quality in vine arrow is big isn't it?...

[lyric solstice]

Not too much, 20 Qual adds 10% poison dmg

[wet mango]

Wait what is it at 0 quality

50% of poison? Or 150

[pearl sluice]

It just loses what it would gain from quality

[lyric solstice]

Yeah so 10% difference

[young hinge]

yea quality is massive, from 50% etra dmg to 150

i just owned viper first go with my poison rain of arrow acolyte

no deaths xD

[pearl sluice]

There’s no gem in the entire game that gets a 300% damage increase from quality

That’s what going from 50 to 150 would suggest

[lyric solstice]

It is worded pretty weirdly to be honest, but yeah it's just a 10% damage increase at 20 qual

[pearl sluice]

Lots of goofy stuff in general but yeah u don’t get the equivalent of like 8 skill levels with quality

[wet mango]

Goes from what to what?

[lyric solstice]

50 to 60% is my guess, unless the wording refers to 110% of the 50 so 55%

From my personal experience the damage increased but it's not triple that's for sure

[young hinge]

how big were ur poisons

[pearl sluice]

Just so you understand it would be extremely noticeable if it changed dps that much because it would literally be like going from 3k dps to 9kdps meaning a minute long boss is a 20 second boss

Always good to quality gemstones esp since unlike gear you don’t really upgrade out of them just know the return isn’t bonkers

[tidal copper]

It's scary to quality them cause the always end up corrupted

[lyric solstice]

[tidal copper]

Weird right?

[young hinge]

yea i will test and see when i get my big hitter skills that deal bigger poisons

[rich bolt]

Exsangunate is one of my favorite skills in poe it's been data mine as a weapon skill so demon form is out what class would be best for a dedicated build around it with chain support it hits 4 targets and chains 6 times thinking blood mage or maybe gelling since there is a lot of bleed at the bottom?

[pearl sluice]

Blood mage explodes its own minions for one of the better builds and it’s an exceptionally clunky ascension

[waxen jewel]

So let me check my knowledge of the new ailment mechanics. PLEASE CORRECT IF WRONG
Natural means that it doesn't need explicit trigger, having the correct damage type suffices.
Chill Natural, Buildup: more damage = more magnitude
Freeze Natural, Buildup: towards trigger (identical to stun except each use different thresholds), disables passive block chance
Fire Natural, No buildup, Both the chance of trigger and magnitude scale with damage of the hit, min magnitude = 20% of hit dmg
Shock Natural, No buildup, Only the chance to trigger scales with damage of the hit
Electrocution Unnatural, Buildup: towards trigger, like freeze except electrocution doesn't disable passive block
Bleed Unnatural, No buildup, Physical hit damage scales magnitude only; chance to trigger is independent of damage (converse of shock), bypasses ES, min magnitude = 15% of hit dmg, base duration = 5s
Poison Unnatural, No buildup, The combination of phys and chaos components of the hit scale the magnitude; chance to trigger is independent of damage, bypasses ES, min magnitude = 20%, base duration = 2s

[lyric solstice]

Sounds right, always double check with info in poe2wiki.net if u have doubts or in game tooltips

[waxen jewel]

I did when I compiled that list

It's the kind of thing where I try to learn by "teaching"

[pearl sluice]

All this knowledge on status only for everyone to use shock builds

[lyric solstice]

A+

Build weak? Slap herald of ice

[waxen jewel]

Ohh no, there might be some support gem that requires bleed!

But yeah, shock is really good

[floral helm]

I really want to see somebody run a build that can reliably use all of the herald skills.

Because I feel like if you could pull it off that would be terrifying.

[waxen jewel]

the magnitude nodes on the passive tree are bit overtuned maybe. Or the reset of the stuff is undertuned really

[wet mango]

Herald of Ash is meh, and many build do use ice + thunder together

[floral helm]

Oh yeah I know mine uses ice and thunder. But like the poison one interests me. The Ash one does seem meh

[lyric solstice]

Ash is pretty terrible

[floral helm]

Yeah and I've looked into adding the poison one to my build. Because I'm currently running essentially it's my own take on a gemling quarter staff build.

Because it's strong regardless, but I'd be lying if I said citadel bosses, and really pinnacle bosses don't scare me.

But the only way I have seen to possibly incorporate it is using gems In my passive tree to add poison XD

[lyric solstice]

So, my thought process personally is to use ailments only if your build is using big hits mainly. And go the poison route if using bows since it has more synergy there than ignite and bleed

[pearl sluice]

You could probably kill t1 xesht u can do that in like level 60 year that’s worth a total of 4 exalted

[lyric solstice]

Ignite synergy is pretty terrible overall

[pearl sluice]

It would probably be harder to get the splinters then to kill the boss

[lyric solstice]

Bleed is pretty cool, mostly a warrior thing since all the bleed magnitude and chance is near them. And maces hit hard and slow

[floral helm]

Yeah my first character was a demon witch... Which ended up becoming quite literally an ice witch because ignite just feels useless.

[tidal copper]

Really? What skill for bleed?

[pearl sluice]

I don’t think on a single character actually I’ve done the first 300

I always buy a stone then farm

[lyric solstice]

Hammer of the gods, sunder, any slam tbh. With lacerate support

[young hinge]

the bleed pf concoction has potential too

[pearl sluice]

Demon is kind of a meme

But yeah ignite isn’t very helpful

[floral helm]

It really is a meme, and it looks and plays so fun but when your abilities just bounce off enemies and your left going... Why am I dead?

It feels awful just entirely awful

[lyric solstice]

Contagion essence drain seemed pretty good on mathil clips

[pearl sluice]

Summoner witch has good survival but minion clear is goofy asf

[near timber]

is gore spike bug only visually?

[pearl sluice]

U nuke bosses but the ai needs pathing and targeting changes badly

[tidal copper]

Don't do it

[pearl sluice]

What’s been really annoying for me on breaches for witch is minions don’t like target the same group of mobs

[floral helm]

Curse into hexblast was pretty solid on demon, but it generally had the same issue of feeling just too squishy

[pearl sluice]

So since breaches have mobs coming from all sides instead of all 14 minions shooting the same pool it gets split like 4/4/6 in three different directions murdering my dps

Completely cursed

[halcyon solar]

When you are mostly doing T15+ waystone, is it worth still running juiced T13-14 with high rarity etc?

[waxen jewel]

There's one thing though, shocked ground bypasses need to have much lightning damage

[pearl sluice]

Quant>rarity but yeah a good t14 or 13 is better than a shitty 15

Let me rephrase that hit the rarity fall off then stack quant

[waxen jewel]

Does demonform work with the unarmed nodes in the monk/ranger side area?

[pearl sluice]

Iirc it’s like 150? I’d have to check

[waxen jewel]

Some of them say "while unarmed" while other's say "unarmed skills..."

[halcyon solar]

you sure about quant>rarity? Since i exclusively read the opposite.

[pearl sluice]

There’s a point where it falls of super hard it doesn’t scale linearly

Quant is way more important especially if you already have rarity on your character since that and the map rarity aren’t separately scaled

[clear sluice]

What are some good support for Armour Explosion + devastate

[opaque sparrow]

Can I annoint a notable i already have?

Like i have the 1% ias / 25 dex

Can I get that on my necklace too?

[slate badger]

why does the 2nd one give me 200 more dps than the other one

[opaque sparrow]

"Adds phys dmg to attacks"

Probably

[slate badger]

but im spark build, thought that was useless

[chilly badger]

Should I add one more all res, chaos res, or 2 percent max hp on the last socket?

[slate badger]

ah, should of said what i was palyiong, i get 2% lightning dmg per 10 int, 3% inc spell per 100 mana

[opaque sparrow]

You want chaos res

And cold res

[chilly badger]

so put chaos res on last socket?

since it's harder to get

or cold res

[opaque sparrow]

It may just be that it's not being factored into that number

[opaque sparrow]

I would, yeah

[chilly badger]

alr thanks

[slate badger]

when would you drop kitokos current from spark build? and what do i replace it with?

[mystic umbra]

Heya people, ive been roaming around looking for a build that fits my playstyle.
In poe1 i liked doing a "Aurabot" is what they called it at the time, Is there something similar in poe2?

[versed cipher]

Is there a cap on mana Regen because I seem to be stuck at 265 a second

[civic summit]

Curious if anyone can reccomend me a good build for an easy time getting into mapping?
I'm having a lot of fun with my ice strike invoker but it's the only class/build i can make work it feels like. my spark sorceress was feeling weak as hell in act 2 normal even tho people say its easy o.o

[midnight moss]

You can play any class to start mapping as long as you play it like an Ice Strike Monk

[versed cipher]

@civic summit don't know if you know spark don't work like a shotgun effect I made that mistake incase you are

[civic summit]

Maybe that's my mistake?

I don't get too close to things but my damage seems bad

First boss in A2 rolled me for like an hour straight lmao

[midnight moss]

try adding pierce to your arcs so each projectile can proc multiple targets

[civic summit]

should I be using arc too?

I only use flamewall spark and nothing else

[midnight moss]

eyh i meant spark mb

[versed cipher]

The skill the takes away 20 percent damage for more projectiles took over half my damage from spark

[midnight moss]

yeah because spark doesnt combine the hits, only 1 projectiles dmg is counted

[versed cipher]

If spark is set up right don't need arc at all

[civic summit]

oh yeah ive been using that one

Extra casts

[midnight moss]

its a campaign build, hard to get them right at that level

[versed cipher]

Yeah they are

[civic summit]

I am debating trying infernalist for ssf but im not really sure where to start build wise

My irl friend has most classes at 90+ and tends to tell me most YT builds are really bad (i was copying zizaran for my first char)

I will try to edit my spark sorc over though in the morning

[midnight moss]

raxx builds are nice

[civic summit]

maybe through some exalts into her just to make her faster

Raxx? ill check him out

[midnight moss]

and usually dont involve uniques taht cost divines

[civic summit]

Raxx infernalist minion seems awesome

I'm gonna try that out

[south zephyr]

You can get pretty far with janky builds. Could you get farther, faster? Sure. But it's a game. Who cares if you're not optimal

[serene isle]

well if you're like me and cant ascend4

maybe it's time to not janky build

[astral drum]

Can anyone tell me what the most new friendly class is? Im level 22 on sorcerer and I feel weak compared to like a warrior or ranger.

[serene isle]

well not warrior

[astral drum]

I'm running sparks but because I'm new I don't have any uniques or anything to boost me up

I never touched base Poe so I don't know a ton

[versed cipher]

@astral drum don't really need uniques to get going but if you scroll up someone else was having a tuff time as well

[serene isle]

just buy some gear on trade site for 1ex

when I did this the campaign became much, much easier

[astral drum]

Wtf is 1ex

[serene isle]

1 exalted orb

[astral drum]

Im level 22 I don't know nothin

[serene isle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard

you must buy gear and the campaign will be a breeze

[astral drum]

How do I get an exalted orb?

[serene isle]

trade them at currency vendor with armour scraps and such

[versed cipher]

Does anyone know if when you increase mana Regen 10% if it turns the default 2% to 12% or 2.2%

[arctic pond]

Pretty sure it goes to 2.2%

[versed cipher]

@arctic pond that would explain alot because if it decrease it it takes 50% of before it's increased

[fallow yew]

yo guys can someone check my gear and help me

min max

[humble oriole]

Anyone using behead gem? Does it stack modifiers

[peak slate]

how does this guy have this skill point as blood mage and have ES? when this point do "converts all energy shield to mana" ??

im lost

[digital axle]

Any unique equipped?

[tidal copper]

How do you deal with stun when you have MoM

[wild nexus]

Has any one had luck rolling a merc with Bow instead of Xbow? Messing around with a new alt and trying this, seemed like it could be fun.

[peak slate]

just atziri's disdain gold circlet, and fireflower solar amulet, which i both have

[arctic pond]

I'm guessing the 25-30% Of Max Health gained as Energy Shield isn't converted to mana. It probably only converts the flat es # on each item

[peak slate]

i have the same setup idk

wierd tbh

[digital axle]

Do u have link to build guide?

[peak slate]

just a youtube video he didnt do a guide

[astral birch]

get stun charm boommm

[fossil hare]

Atziri's Disdain doesn't convert

[digital axle]

I can be wrong but first conversions apply from passive tree. Then all conversions apply from items

[fossil hare]

Same with Everlasting Gaze

[peak slate]

and how do i have only 13 here when the chest alone have 48% lightning resistance??

[fossil hare]

You lose resistances throughout the campaign

10% per act

[digital axle]

Yez

[fossil hare]

It's to keep it balanced at early and late game

[peak slate]

so waht do i need to do to get back my ES ...

[fossil hare]

Use Atziri's Disdain

[arctic pond]

They are - which is confusing.

[fossil hare]

Wait you are

[digital axle]

Relog?

[peak slate]

i have it equipped

[arctic pond]

Sounds silly - but you aren't just paused whilst you have 0 shield right?

[digital axle]

How many hp u have?

[peak slate]

i relogged

it worked

wow

[fossil hare]

Did you only just click EB and didn't close out of the passive tree?

[peak slate]

they need to add an AH asap tbh this trade site sucks

[fossil hare]

It probably just never had a chance to recharge or something lol

[peak slate]

no my passive tree was set

[fossil hare]

Anyway, working now so that's good

[dawn thistle]

I didnt play poe1 but I was wondering when the full game release. Let say I really like monk. Will there be multiple weapons that will be good with monk or the meta will always be the weapon that the class is identified with like quaterstaff?

[fossil hare]

You can use any weapon on monk, even right now

I've seen some fairly solid looking bow monks

[dawn thistle]

and its still good even with the monk passives?

nice

[fossil hare]

I mean, sometimes you'll path in the direction of relevant nodes outside of the "monk" area

But there are usually more generic passives to take too

[mystic osprey]

are there any supports that decrease the charge time of plasma blast?

[young hinge]

yea im using bow + 2h mace monk rn

[dawn thistle]

thats cool

[fossil hare]

It's harder in poe2 to go drastically far from your starting location because there's no path through the middle but it's still doable

[honest mural]

any build that potentially wont get nerfed that is semi decent in endgame mapping and clears that people could advise to start looking into?

[brazen verge]

does anyone have some wideo that showcases how the WH concentration works? Im trying to choose my merc ascendancy and can't find anything that actuallyu shows anything. I'd love to know what are the actual values applied.

[half cloak]

Does anyone know if Critical hit chance on a Staff operates as a "multiplier" just like Critical hit damage on the staff?. Trying to figure out how people are hitting 50%+ crit.

[merry creek]

I'm just guessing, but, the idea of running an "ailment" or "dot" build with a witch where its not just a chaos build, but, where I'm like, specializing specific summons to dot and spread their dots in packs and keep them up on bosses doesn't "seem" viable...

I'm not sure if its just because I'm low level or doing it wrong, but, trying to do:
Skeletal Arsonist -> Fire Infusion + Ignition + Wildfire
Skeletal Frostmage -> Cold Infusion + Glaciation + Deep Freeze (Couldn't find anything that "spreads" cold)
Skeletal Storm Mage -> Lighning Infusion + Conduction + Coursing Current

Throwing up contagion, and figure when I get access, I'll be dropping curses to increase susceptability, and trying to find an integration to add poison too.

That said. Thus far, it seems that just in general the minions ability to build up ailments is pretty weak even with the support gems, and the build just isn't feeling all that viable. Am I just doing something wrong?

[alpine pecan]

Are there any clever strats for applying snipers mark as bow, or is it just gonna be a self-cast thing? Running cast on crit or something just for mark feels a bit heavy.

or is the idea to just pop it for snipe exclusively

[keen sparrow]

should i slap lightning or phys runes on?

[merry creek]

just a guess, but probably phys if your build converts phys to lightning since that boosted phys is greater then the total lightning you're getting out of it, and most passives and skill gems scale additional lighning damage from your phys not directly off the lightning damage you're already doing.

(Only way I'd go the other direction is if you had something like 80+% elemental damage increase or something, but being as the bonuses are probably additive not multiplicative, probably not even then)

[upper viper]

im just checking myself here, making sure i understand. If i have increased cast/attack speed on my minion. It will just effect me as well 😄 ?

[arctic pond]

Yea

[upper viper]

Goodie, was just confusing myself with some other things. Thanks!

[vapid hamlet]

Is there a way of calculating my dps on Ice strike if I switch my HOWA (21 dex, 22 int, dmg penetrates 15% cold res)

To a howa with:
4% AS per 25 dex
1-11 lightning damage or 1-12
But with worse/similar int and dex rolls?

Don't know if this upgrade will actually be worth it

[arctic pond]

It's your total dex/int not the gloves

[wide mantle]

Is there anywhere in particular that the tokens for the second chaos trials drop?

Or any conditions in general that exist?

[keen sparrow]

alright thanks

[wide mantle]

I've not seen one yet, I'm level 81. :(

[round marten]

hey frost srtike invokers out there, are u scaling herald AoE size at all?

[arctic pond]

What do you mean by second chaos trial? If you mean for 4th Ascendancy, the token drops in any zone with a monster level of 75+

[wide mantle]

Okay, ty. That is what I meant, yes.

[icy sierra]

How do I increase herald damage? Is it just by getting higher level spirit gems?

[zenith hornet]

any interesting builds for this the arvil wheel hardwood targe unique shield? https://pathofexile2.wiki.fextralife.com/Arvil's+Wheel+Hardwood+Targe

[still rock]

the circle itself is smaller though so it's easy to ride the outside to get farther pathing

and easy jewels that way

[violet condor]

Has GGG given any info as to when more classes are being added?

[still rock]

Today

[viral crag]

I'm not aware of any schedule, last I heard it's more "When they're ready."

[violet condor]

Bet, thanks

[autumn wind]

how do you get past 25 percent speed on boots

[upper viper]

We can have nothing in the off-hand with sceptres right ?

thought i saw a video, where someone had a unique mace

[midnight moss]

increase min price to 1divine

[sonic peak]

you can get pretty decent 30ms boots for 1-5ex

[fierce tiger]

thats the way to go for aoc imo

[shy pasture]

what would be the best jewels for passive tree for a strength stacking gemling with howa/ pillar of the caged god?

[sonic peak]

even 35 is not that expensive

[midnight moss]

Id definitely recommend getting resistances on all your armor pieces so you could focus on raw dmg rings

[winter shale]

Guys anyone use witch barrier comet build?

[sonic peak]

still cheaper than 1d

if you drop rarity from the boots you can get even better stuff

ppl just don't know how to search because divs items get bumped up

[midnight bolt]

a theoretical question, does overwhelming presence increases amount of CoC procs? since it lowers the threshold of enemies?

[sonic peak]

like, if you drop to 30ms and no rarity:

[rough aurora]

Do two nodes with each 25% Attack Damage have the same effect as 1 with 50% or is there some weird math involved?

[modern oak]

How the damage of Monk's "Tempest Bell" is calculated?

• Assuming the base dmg is 100
• Bell is effected by 3 ailments (cold/fire/lightning)

What is the total dmg?

1. Would the more damage multiplier be 1.3*3=1.9 multiplier or 1.3*1.3*1.3=2.197
2. What is the total dmg conversion? Will be it 40% phys and 20/20/20% of elements?

[rough aurora]

as far as i understood its 3x 60% of your phys ie 180% of your phys in total. Its not spreading your damage across each type but giving you damage for each type.

[midnight moss]

whatever it is keep spamming it, most OP ability in game besides maybe ice strike

[honest ingot]

Hey people say above 100% Item rarity solo is a waste. this true? i got 220 item rarity and i can do t15 maps with delirium

[rough aurora]

its not a waste but high dimishing returns after 100% on gear

(map rarity seems to work differently)

[quaint dagger]

with the mana steal becomes energy shield from monk ascendency - does this only ever work with physical damage, so I can't play a lightning or frost build?

[brisk glade]

I guess it is like a softcap or hardcap beyond 100 MF

You can have someone in your team which can remain close to you and stack ton of rarity

[fossil reef]

Friendly reminder /tip that if you look on the trade site that the sorting is wrong --
1 divine will show before 20ex, etc, so filter for exalted prices first

[rancid cipher]

How does stun threshold work? Is there a formula for it to try and figure out how much I need?

[sonic blade]

What annointment would you guys recommend for a minion build?

[autumn wind]

is this worth 5 exalts

[atomic halo]

no

[tender needle]

I just bought a pair for four last night with a couple extra goody stats on it and it feels great so much better to have movement speed

[brisk glade]

It has no ideal base stats

[viral crag]

I'm not aware of any formulas we have to determine stun threshold/buildup yet (or even how it falls off), but it's not so much a "how much you need" thing.
I believe we do know that it is based on how much damage you take versus your maximum life though, so most people tend to build larger life pools rather than targeting Stun Threshold specifically.

[autumn wind]

what would be the ideal stats

for bootys

i mean boots

[brisk glade]

Depends on your build and situation

[atomic halo]

life/mana/res (life/mana depends on your build)

[tender needle]

Well I'm a minion Master minehead plus the energy shield all that good stuff and some resist on it and magic find

[viral crag]

So your plan for Stun Threshold in that case is "Don't get hit" lol

Like we're inherently going to have lower armor and health pools compared to bigger builds, so stun is just a risk of the class if you decide to take hits. Stay mobile, build evasion, CC enemies, that sort of thing.

[tender needle]

• 5 minion scepters are to sweet for my broke taste.
  at what level of minion damage on scepter makes up for it you think?

[frail bramble]

can i use two different skilltree sets on the same weapon?

[wet mango]

They have other effects which convert X to ES. since all conversions happen simultaneously, that converted ES won't be converted a 2nd time

[viral crag]

Don't believe so. Pretty sure it's tied to the weapon swap mechanic 🤔

[atomic halo]

no, but you can just move the weapons to the other set

if you have a clear/bossing setup

[rancid cipher]

I'm currently running CI, so I'm trying to figure out exactly how many jewels / nodes I'll need to take for it with my energy shield.

[autumn wind]

i have to be an items level to wear and ro use it right is there anyway around that???

[indigo pilot]

there's no way to reduce the required level

[atomic halo]

item level is not equal to level requirement, but they are quite correlated

and there's nothing much you can do about it

you shouldnt be finding gear way above your level req unless you're trading though

[autumn wind]

i wanted really high movement speed but im capped at 25 im currently at 15 movement speed on my boots these two seem to be my best options which would be the better pick up

my build converts evasion into armor i ebleive

[atomic halo]

what are your filters

how is it so hard to find some life & res & movespeed

[autumn wind]

my filters

[atomic halo]

why is the level req between 41 and 42

just do max 42

and dont sort by movement speed, just have a minimum in mind and set it, like 30% is reasonable

and just filtering for all res is wrong, correct practice is to set up a weighted sum

[hot rapids]

might be a basic question with filtering, is there a way to filter so that the stats add up to more than 20%? e.g. i want 2 out of attack damage / melee damage / attack speed / quarterstaff damage and i want the sum of the modifiers to be more than 20 percent

[static plinth]

Id also set like 30 min life so you arent getting +7 life boots

[atomic halo]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1316822844654620844 for further explanation on weighted sum

[static plinth]

Use Weighted Sum

[autumn wind]

no results show when i click 30 speed

it hink 25 is the cap for my level

[atomic halo]

oh right

[static plinth]

Not unlikely

[atomic halo]

you're still leveling, that makes thing a lot of difficult

[hot rapids]

ty!

[atomic halo]

but yeah, set minimum 25 ms and weighted sum for life/res

or just min for life and weighted sum for res, whichever you prefer

[autumn wind]

i have freeze immunity so i guess i can ignore frost stats

but h thiis first pair looks good

[atomic halo]

im sure you can get better

read the thread, do the weighted sum and sort by sum

[autumn wind]

might have to raise the minimum max life reqs

[fallow yew]

ayo, anyone tryna hop on vc and help me sort out my infernalist witch minion set up?

[autumn wind]

found one pair itih 99 to max life

i think its ignoring my level requirements i ptu level 42 as sthe max

oh my bad i wa slooking at item level

[valid python]

the campaign is a bit trivialized when playing in a party. what is the best build to actively grief my teammates?

[fallow yew]

ayooo?

you are evil

[autumn wind]

lmfaoooo

[valid python]

flash grenade looks promising, but it doesn't effect the op spellcasters

[viral crag]

This seems like the kind of behavior I don't want to encourage lol

[autumn wind]

so whats your plan max out flash grenade and spam it until they disconnect??

[viral crag]

As anybody who's done group rifts in diablo knows though, the best way to grief your teammates is to just be stronger and faster.
Run through and kill everything before they can get to it. Just make a good build 🤷

[gloomy jackal]

Is there a way to cast 2 curses with 1 button withou reserving spirit?

[valid python]

no, I'm hoping that there will be a few more deaths during campaign at least

[viral crag]

I don't think for what you're asking. Only real answer I can come up with is to put two curses into some "cast on <x>" gem (if they support it)

Nothing that lets you do that on demand though.

[gloomy jackal]

yea sadly needs spirit

thanks though

[hot rapids]

does elemental damage not convert well for monk skills? i thought a 10% increase in elemental causes a 10% increase in dps for skills like ice strike

[gloomy jackal]

first thing is if you're not converting all phys damage to elemental it's not gonna be quite 10%, and second is that the 10% increased ele dmg stacks additively with other %increase in dmg

[hot rapids]

i have a 14% cold dmg/10%elemental dmg/16% crit dmg increase on a jewel and made my skill dps go up by only 10 percent total. given i have about 50 percent crit it means my elemental only converted to like 2 percent?

[autumn wind]

imagine they make a skill gem thaat adds massive slow to an ability but the ability affects teammates

[gloomy jackal]

for example if you have 100% increased attack damage, then 10% increased elemental damage is only 5% more dmg

[hot rapids]

got it thx

[viral crag]

There's also more that could be at play. You could see a straight 10% increase if it was purely elemental damage and that was your only source of increased damage.

[hot rapids]

in that case %increase in Attack damage / melee skills / quarterstaff damage would translate better? because it would be flat and = to the % increase roughly

[viral crag]

For example, if you already had a 20% increase on a 100 damage attack, your DPS would show as 120 dps.
If you get another 10% increase, you're going from 120 -> 130 which you would only see as a 8.3% increase (since you compared to the previous result, not the base)

[hot rapids]

that makes sense

[floral helm]

So question, how do I get my elemental ailments to actually affect the things I'm fighting?

Because it feels like in tier 14 and 15 maps, it becomes so much less likely for my ailments to affect them. And I tried adding more elemental pin and I thought that would affect it but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.

[hot rapids]

is there a calculator or something to work out definitively which stat would result in more dps increase? couldnt seem to find good resources online

[indigo pilot]

@floral helm are you using overwhelming presence?

[fallow yew]

ayo, anyone tryna hop on vc and help me sort out my infernalist witch minion set up?

[floral helm]

Not currently but I was using it before. Is that why it feels different?

[viral crag]

Ailments is a longer talk, but in short: Higher tier things can have more Ailment Threshold, resistances*, or both.
Penetration can help with the resistance issue, but not with the Ailment Threshold issue. They can just naturally take more.

[solid gale]

Support gems for affliction chance and iirc higher damage should get them to apply faster? Also not taking maps with increased ailment threshold

[midnight geode]

yo guys if i have all the mark notables on my weapon set 2, and apply the mark on that weapon, will the effects still stay once i swap weapon? Like if i have the node that gives me 10% dmg against marked enemies will i still do 10% more after weapon swap?

[indigo pilot]

@floral helm it reduces the ailment threshold by quite a bit

[floral helm]

Then I'll re equip it and see how it feels.

Because basically, I'm a noob to path of exile. I'm working with a build that I can't take full credit for but I've definitely made it my own.

But I think in my constant striving for bettering my build I screwed something up and it may actually just be that but I'll see.

[viral crag]

Hey, if there's any time to experiment and play around it's EA 👍

[solid gale]

Yeah that gem is pretty nice to throw on whatever you’re using as an ailment skill

[manic bloom]

I'm just starting out playing the game right now as witch, but eventually I want to go into infernalist and make a build based around demon form. What should I know ahead of time for that goal?

[floral helm]

As somebody who was most excited to play that specific thing when I started out. And it was my first character. I would suggest looking into specifically hexblast builds. So instead of being necessarily a fire demon, you're more or less playing a glass cannon that nukes the screen.

But that's just my opinion from almost 700 hours total.

[pine stream]

You can replace anointments right?

[solid gale]

Iirc infernalist also likes low max hp with high flat hp regen, since demon form drains a percentage per second

[manic bloom]

I did see that

[solid gale]

So you’ll want decent energy shield to help with taking hits

[viral crag]

I normally don't, but infernalist is one I would highly recommend a build guide for. It's a bit unnatural to build for some.
Not as familiar myself, but I know there are some build requirements like health maintenance and specifically when to take certain ascendancies, otherwise you run the risk of just dying to your own abilities 👍

[indigo pilot]

@pine stream yes

[manic bloom]

This sounds like exactly what I'm looking to play, thanks

[floral helm]

Yes this, this is actually one of the main points of the hex blast chaos builds. There are rings that remove God what is it I think it's 25 to 30% of your max life for more chaos damage. And then there's another unique chest that converts a percentage of max life to energy shield.

[indigo pilot]

i wish runes could be replaced like anointments

[manic bloom]

As I understand it I need a few pieces of gear to decrease my max HP so that demon flame HP degen is easier to mamage

Is that correct

I think one of them was Ming's heart or something

[solid gale]

Iirc Ming’s heart and ghostwrithe?

[floral helm]

Yes, there are I think 3 to 4 uniques that do that specifically. They are not very expensive I think they're you know one exalted a piece on the market.

And then you pair that with health regen and you can hold the 10 stacks indefinitely pretty easily. But when you remove that threshold and you can go up to the like 75, 100 stacks then it gets more difficult but health region makes it so much more manageable

[solid gale]

Yeah ghostwrithe is the hp>ES converter

[manic bloom]

Sweet!

[floral helm]

If I remember correctly, it's been like a couple weeks so don't hold me to this but I think the more expensive ones were the rings. But even then they were not nearly as bad as some pieces.

[manic bloom]

So this kinda build isn't too expensive then?

[opaque sparrow]

Where are the sorc players at 🙃

[floral helm]

No it isn't, I actually think it's a pretty good intro and then you can play around with it as you see fit

[manic bloom]

That's great news

[floral helm]

Plus once you get blasphemy, it turns into literally using two to three buttons. Because you can set up your curses to just be aoe around you. So you can drop dark effigy, which is your totem that attacks anything you curse. And hexblast.

[manic bloom]

That's badass

I'm still on act 1 so I imagine it will be a while before I can get this going but I'm happy that I actually have a reasonable build goal now

Thank you so much

[floral helm]

Oh for sure and I think one of the best things about it is Ghostwrithe is a unique you can get pretty early on I actually think you can get it in act 1 if I'm not mistaken. Granted it's totally random for the most part.

But yeah it's mostly just using minions until you get a couple of the uniques and then you can start dipping more into the curse/chaos side of things

[mystic shard]

**Hey this support says it gives you MORE chance to crit, not increased.

is this flat crit? does anyone know for sure, as it never ays "more" it always says "increased"**

If you find anything out @ me please

[manic bloom]

Sick!

[floral helm]

I don't know if I'm going to get smited for posting this here but. This video helped me when I was working on it.

https://youtu.be/uqc6z4qnutY?si=e1Lybk7t6qgJdtAe

That's like the end goal when you don't have to care about anything under 100 stacks XD

[manic bloom]

Thanks!

[floral helm]

No problem Happy hunting!

[fiery wave]

is there any build that wants flask effect duration on jewel?

[dawn spire]

I mean, any build CAN want it if they rely on their flasks

[foggy tangle]

look im gay

[static plinth]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1321237459987726366

[analog patrol]

how not to die from explosions?

[opaque sparrow]

Not standing in them, or so I'm told.

[thin basin]

For that one gem that give you 100% more crit chance vs enemy on full hp you just x2 your crit chance in tooltip right?

[opaque sparrow]

Correctomundo

[upbeat ivy]

but how much does this cost

this is my budget and i want to play demonform so bad

and this is my current progress on the build

could i afford?

[plucky aspen]

can I get the keystone node from from nothing diamond jewel ?

[atomic halo]

no

unless you path there manually

[plucky aspen]

thank you

[opaque sparrow]

Halfway there

[sinful sonnet]

guys what is meta for amulet annoitment for infernalist/zoo build?

[upbeat ivy]

is my budget high enough?!

[autumn wind]

what does the daze status do ?

[atomic halo]

it's basically a stun

[static plinth]

It just increases how much stun they take

Its pretty ass

[autumn wind]

i used it on my gas grenade it builds up quick i thnk with overpower on hypershot

it might be really good

[peak acorn]

"increase cast speed with element skill" that applies to spark right ?

[thin basin]

Yes

[peak acorn]

tnx

[autumn wind]

@static plinth it combined it with flahs grenades its acutally busted

it almost instantly makes the enemy stunned

[light dew]

can i ask why the helmet? isnt it bad to lose energy shield?

[clear sluice]

Which 2h mace attack benefits more from elemental damage than Phys, on weapon

Molten strike probably

[thin basin]

They want a lot of regen for demon form

[sinful sonnet]

havent u seen some good infernalist storm mages guide? im stucked kinda, need to watch something

[thin basin]

Also theres a current snapshot bug with it

[silent charm]

Do TwoHanded passive nodes affect crossbows ?

[atomic halo]

yes

[sacred jewel]

What are my options for witch? Im new and about to complete act 1 but barely have any idea about how to build and proably playing it wrong

Mostly going energy shield and using the chaos bolt skill with minions while trying to apply debuffs (its lvl5)

I know there are two ascendencies but im not very sure which to go

[opaque sparrow]

Infernalist + Minions

[compact ivy]

what does a quarterstaff for ice strike invoker need?

[compact ivy]

phys crit attack speed ok

[daring bobcat]

I looked up an ice strike build, It's not what I play so I'm not sure but Phys dmg and attack speed are always good

[jaunty flame]

is there really no use for a small ring controlled metamorphosis?

feels like a waste to have this now

[opaque sparrow]

+melee

[floral helm]

Yes I mean you literally have all the pieces and beyond plenty orbs for it

[jaunty flame]

this is like the only use of it i've found so far but you can get lightning quick from whispers of doom

[upbeat ivy]

idk what i need to buy lol

im kinda clueless

i have a few more pieces i think?

[twilit cairn]

What levels are the breakpoints for getting more skeleton warriors when using a sceptre "x level to skelly warriors" ?? i got 2 warriors now at lvl 6 skellies.

[upbeat ivy]

these are my stats//slots open

[high oxide]

Hope someone can give me direction in regards to the boots BeetleBite. The unique aspect of the boots says "Aggravate Bleeding on enemies when they enter your presence" your presence being the area around your character which is by default 6 meters.

Does this mean as long as I'm 6meters or closer from the enemy all of their bleeds will be aggravated that i inflict?

or is it - based on how its worded - I have to get within 6 meters after i try to apply a big bleed to aggravated it, step away from the mob outside the 6meter to apply a new bleed, to then step close to the mob again to aggrevate the new bleed?

[rough notch]

is this good ??

i need energy shield tho

also can i use it with wand ?

[atomic halo]

depends on your budget

505% is not an impressive roll and it only has 2 sockets

[daring bobcat]

Yes it's decent, you can use it with wand if you have the attributes for it

[atomic halo]

but if it's all you can afford and you have a good plan for it, it can be a smart buy

[rough notch]

i have 100 ex

should i look for better one ?

need energy shield

or which shield you guys recommend me ?

[daring bobcat]

Energy shield comes mostly from chest and helmet for me and everlasting gaze off course

[rough notch]

like i really need energy shield

ohh

kk

[jaunty flame]

ugh im gimping my build by not pathing to pure power to get a massive increase in lightning damage

gonna need that from nothing jewel

[sacred jewel]

any other suggestions?

[rough notch]

@daring bobcat sorry for ping :D but should i buy this for 1 div ?

[daring bobcat]

I wouldn't 20 max shield is low and max life on sorc is a wasted mod

• I need spirit on my chest

low res too

[rough notch]

hmm k

[hushed umbra]

Demon form life lost is based on non-reserved life?

[winter vortex]

• skill level comes before all damage calculations and element conversions?

[atomic halo]

yeah

[indigo tulip]

Anyone can direct me to a good totem build

[jaunty flame]

what should i anoint on my lightning merc build if not lightning chain?

im tryna stat stick with HOWA

i realize i need to change amulets from pure power because the buildup to it is actually really good

[gaunt ether]

Which is better?

i get lower tool tips for the dual string, but the extra arrow should be better no?

[daring bobcat]

Difference is minimal, a few exalts will get you a better bow if you get stuck

[compact ivy]

Body Armour
Quality: +20%
Evasion Rating: 803
Energy Shield: 302
Item Level: 79
Requires Level 75, 86 Dex, 86 Int
40% increased Armour, Evasion and Energy Shield
5% increased Movement Speed
+24 to Evasion Rating
+9 to maximum Energy Shield

• R4131% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
  +42 to maximum Life
  +9 to Dexterity
  +27% to Cold Resistance
  +33% to Lightning Resistance
  Corrupted
  ~price 15 exalted
  worth?

[atomic halo]

screenshot in the future

[jaunty flame]

@atomic halois there any use for controlled metamorphosis jewels that aren't massive

i'm looking here and all i can find is that nice jewel slot above the minions

[sacred jewel]

anyone have build link for demon form infernalist? need early game tips too

[atomic halo]

idk

[runic creek]

How do these numbers work? I'm clearly not regenerating 3000 mana per second

[rough notch]

u mean 3 ?

uhh

idk man..

[upbeat ivy]

does anyone know what a frost mage build costs roughly to begin t15s?

[midnight geode]

is explosive shot good for clearing if u dont use grenades?

i like the animation

[thorny token]

yes its pretty good clear skill

[brazen verge]

Does the red color mean I won't be able to use this item after I put in the rune? Can I check the future requirements somehow?

[daring bobcat]

It means you can't use it right now

[brazen verge]

but I can

[daring bobcat]

an equipped red item won't actually work and give you it's stats

[brazen verge]

let me stop you - the color appears only after I mouse over with the rune - hence the picture

uh oh didn't make it in time 😉

[atomic halo]

is it one of the runes that change attr req (or is that a soul core)

[daring bobcat]

afaik, runes don't affect requirements of an item, some soul cores convert requirements

[atomic halo]

otherwise i dont see how a rune could modify requirements of any kind

[brazen verge]

that's just an iron rune

[indigo pilot]

i think it means you can't equip the rune as body armor, it's always red for me when i hover the rune over the item

[atomic halo]

i thnk it's just a display thing

i dont see how you would suddenly be unable to equip it

[brazen verge]

I'm asking cause I'm severely capped with attributes right now, borderline. If this would disable the item I'd be boned

[daring bobcat]

If you have 2 weapon sets and one of those gives you the requirement but the other doesn't that could make it not work when switching weapons

[daring bobcat]

it won,t change the reqs

[brazen verge]

ok, here goes nothin

[daring bobcat]

You can put 2 sockets on body armor too

[brazen verge]

well, I can't put in the rune

sorry guys I was to scared to click

but why? I haven't used any runesa before but there's tons of studded vests with iron runes on the market, I don't get it? I'm googling a guide right now

[brazen verge]

oh wait

[brazen verge]

this ☝️

I misunderstood, thank you ❤️

I wasn't hovering over the socket that's why I couldn't put it in

[minor tree]

Are mana tempest and archmage both supposed to not work with pyromantic pact at all?

My character should still have as much maximum mana with the node, just 0 current mana, so I'd expect archmage to work

Mana tempest just toggles itself off when used too, I would've expected it to just make me explode faster and faster as I cast spells instead until I either get out or nuke myself

Still even with 0 mana, mana tempest should work (or does it turn off with blood magic too?)

[delicate root]

Anyone got any good budget deadeye builds? Gas arrow got me to lvl 80 but think i needa respec

[gleaming venture]

Can someone tell me what Eldritch Battery is and should I use this for my lightning ranger attempt?

[thorny token]

it converts ES to mana

so nope

[viral crag]

Curious if anyone has tested this.
What happens if a projectile supported by elemental discharge passes through a flame wall?

Can it still ignite since it's not via its own effect?

[slim cobalt]

anyone have any idea whether a notable like wasting effects the poison from gas arrow?

gas arrow doesn't hit, but it poisons as though hitting; wasting provides damage with hits against enemies affected by ailments; the thought process then becomes that any poison after the first gets extra damage, no?

[coarse sky]

Anyone know what build i can play with this quiver?

[storm saffron]

A question for everyone, which parts of gear should I focus on resistances?

[atomic halo]

all

[storm saffron]

because currently I have resistances on almost each part of gear

[atomic halo]

that's good

[jaunty flame]

i have a time lost diamond with 4% dex and 3% damage as lightning, while running HOAW, is it better for me to stack dex or int?

[storm saffron]

so it's okay to mix it that way, there's no some gear part that can have some stats that others dont?

[atomic halo]

i dont think you can get it on weapons

[hot dew]

Hey all Sorcs is Archmage a persistant buff or is it triggered

[atomic halo]

persistent

[hot dew]

I got it but don't see it on my buff bar and i cant seem to keybind it

[wet mango]

Should be, yeah. You can modify the hit dmg of poison arrow normally

[atomic halo]

right click it in the skill screen

[wet mango]

Just that at the end it says "jk" and doesn't actually do dmg

[slim cobalt]

right, but this wouldn't apply to the first tick of poison right?

[jaunty flame]

@atomic halothere any use for this? i can't actually find any nodes that i like to put this in

[atomic halo]

yeah idk

[coarse sky]

Playin a crit quiver is bad or good?

[wet mango]

First application of poison wouldn't get it, correct (not sure how you meant "tick")

[atomic halo]

there's nothing inherently great or terrible about that

[slim cobalt]

yeah that's what i meant. what about if they're applied simultaneously?

like if you shoot with a bow with multiple arrows, or scattershot

does it not affect any of the poisons if they apply at the same time?

further, what's the difference between this node with gas arrow and magnitude? would it just work the same as magnitude

[wet mango]

If they literally apply in the same tick, neither will get the bonus

[lunar surge]

Has anyone made staggering palm work?

[thin basin]

few more pieces 🙏

[wet mango]

Huhn? Magnitude is much more important

This is just incr dmg right

[mellow shell]

The node acrobatics says "can evade all hits", but surely it doesn't make you unkillable right? What can still damage you?

[slim cobalt]

is magnitude multiplicative?

[atomic halo]

you can. it doesnt mean you will.

[wet mango]

"can evade" doesn't mean "evade"

[atomic halo]

it just lets you evade aoe's & stuff evasion doesnt affect by default

you're still limited by your chance to evade

[wet mango]

Also dots don't have an accuracy /evade check

[wet mango]

Well magnitude is it's own stat

Which ends up being multiplicative yes

But of course magnitude modifier itself can be incr or more

[mellow shell]

Hmm trying to understand. So I am immune basically to AOE attacks and dots, but other hits depends on my evasion rating? Am I understanding that correct?

[wet mango]

No

[slim cobalt]

so the damage to the hit from this node would just be put together with the other increased damage types like projectile, but the magnitude from other nodes would be its own separate thing

[wet mango]

Anytime you try to evade, it depends on your evasion

[wet mango]

Can you explain what you think evasion applies against, and that might illuminate where the disconnect is

What do you think evasion applies to, without acro (and then with acro)

[mellow shell]

Oke I will try

[wet mango]

"dmg" is one stat. "Magnitude" is another.

Once your dmg is determined, the magnitude of your poison is then derived. So modifiers to magnitude take affect in that second step, thereby (effectively) acting as a more multiplier

[slim cobalt]

is there any point to taking damaging faster nodes if i can't hit max stacks anyways?

[wet mango]

No, but how many stacks are you reaching lol

It seems hard to not hit max stacks

[slim cobalt]

during clear? 5/6

mob dies too fast

[wet mango]

And if you can't hit max stacks just take fewer +max stack effects?

Well it still makes your poison do dmg faster

[slim cobalt]

that's fair

i'm trying to figure out the balance between duration and these nodes at the bottom to see if they're worth pathing to

[mellow shell]

So taking no acro first. Your defence will be only evasion rating. Meaning the more you have the less chance enemies hit you. With any attack. But when you have acro. All hits like ranged attacks or melee attacks will not hit, but other attacks that don't take evasion will. Like AOE attacks, non dodgeable attacks from bosses. The one with the soundque and red blinking. That is what I thought.

[wet mango]

Now DURATION is a thing you don't care about unless you hit max stacks

[slim cobalt]

got it.

[dawn thistle]

hi, I am looking at wand builds like monk hexblast chaos damage. I was wondering why I see they use chaos bolt spell from the wand with 4 links support but in the rotation they never use it

[wet mango]

Er I got it wrong, I guess duration helps you reach max stacks, but sound like you don't really care becus they're dying

[wet mango]

In any case I really just wouldn't care how things are stacking during clear so long as they are dying

[slim cobalt]

in any case with duration i'd rather the mobs die quicker with damage nodes instead of the slight increase in dps from the duration being prolonged

[wet mango]

You should tailor your things to single target Dps most likely

[barren ridge]

Should monks build energy shield at all? Cuz right now I feel like I need ludicrous amounts of evasion for it to actually dodge in the first place

[crimson mortar]

Best bosses to farm for unique drops? I’m only in act 2 and lvl 27

[wet mango]

with no acro, more evasion means less chance to be hit. With any attack

This part is wrong. Evasion only works vs strike and projectiles. It does not work against AOE hits.

[slim cobalt]

how do i go about finding a good balance between inc damage nodes and magnitude? i understand magnitude is important but it also is scaling the base 20% of the hit

unless i'm missing something on the tooltip that's telling me how much magnitude is doing

[wet mango]

With acro, the behavior of strikes and projectile is unchanged. They used to care about accuracy, and they still do. However, you now are allowed to evade AoE hits.

In neither case are you able to evade DoTs

[mellow shell]

The AOE I can also evade now. Gotcha

[wet mango]

I mean if you're doing gas arrow the poison is all of your dmg. So it doesn't matter if it's 20% of the hit or 200%

[mellow shell]

What about big boss attacks?

[dense bramble]

what percent ingenuity should i be shooting for? 80? 90? how big is the difference

[wet mango]

Not sure

[wet mango]

I mean you just figure out how much "more" dmg each represents

If 30% incr dmg is like 6% more dmg, vs a 10% incr magnitude node which represents 8% more dmg, then you take the magnitude

[somber pendant]

so im trying to use the three dragons helmet to make ice strike ignite but it doesnt seem to be functioning? i tried socketing ignite chance but theres no build up or anything

[slim cobalt]

how do i go about figuring this out? i can weight other stats based on the tooltip increase but magnitude isn't as easy. do i just add them all on the tree?

[wet mango]

The only thing that matter as is how much dmg it actually makes

[wet mango]

Well you can't compute wasting node based on skill screen dps

[somber pendant]

the plan was to make ice strike ignite, which will ignite the bell, making it do fire damage and shock when i hit it

[wet mango]

You just add up your numbers yeah

[night shadow]

can someone help me understand the damage calculation for Adds (12–19) to (22–32) Physical Damage to Attacks from rings? If my weapon has % increased Physical Damage is the ring prefix added before or after the weapon local affix?

[wet mango]

Maxroll makes it relatively easy

[supple crag]

what is considered 'full life' for an enemy? is it entirely full hp or is it above 95% something like that

[wet mango]

#1321237459987726366 message

Ring affix is not local on weapon

[upbeat ivy]

my brain hurts so bad

[wet mango]

Its a flat dmg source, along with (total) weapon dmg

[wet mango]

0 dmg taken

[upbeat ivy]

how much easier would it be to make a demon form build if i redid my passive points before trying to figure out what gear i need?

[supple crag]

booo. ok

[somber pendant]

Need help with my build, anyone know why the three dragons helmet doesnt seem to be functioning for ice strike? theres no ignite even with ignition socketed

[wet mango]

What other supports do you have

And are you doing enough dmg

Like do you have immolate or ele focus

[viscid hollow]

What totem should I be using to easily break armor?

[somber pendant]

martial tempo, frostfire, and ignition

i tried elemental focus too

[night shadow]

this was my assumption as well. Example formula is (correct me if I'm wrong):

Weapon damage 10-20
100% increased Physical Damage on weapon
5-10 Physical Damage to Attacks from Ring

10-20 * 100 + 5-10 = 20-40 + 5-10 = 25-50

[wet mango]

Uh well ele focus would prevent you from igniting

[somber pendant]

ah i meant the one that increases elemental weapon damage

[wet mango]

The weapon 10-20 already includes the 100% local incr dmg

So it would be 10-20 + 5-10 = 15-30

[halcyon solar]

to sustain Delirium it's not just about staying in the fog you also have to quickly kill as many Dilirium monsters as possible, right?

[night shadow]

Yea, you are right, I was just doing the full calculation on top of the base. how the game was doing it.

[wet mango]

How do you tell if there is ignite or not

I expect most things were dying before you could notice ignite

[night shadow]

@wet mango if this is the case I have a following question, why the physical attack prefix is the weakest in terms of values the all the other elements attack prefix on rings?

[wet mango]

Oh you mean the weapon has 10-20 base dmg,? Then yes you're right

[somber pendant]

plan was to use ice strike, ignite the bell to make it do fire damage on hit but shock, herald of lightning to freeze

[wet mango]

Because it's smallest size

[somber pendant]

the burning affect, there was also not a single thing stacked under the enemies name

[delicate root]

. 😅

[tacit elk]

do totems scale with your damage like in poe1?

[wet mango]

Read the totems (most don't)

[night shadow]

the cold one has the same size and is bigger:

Flaring 76 Adds (12–19) to (22–32) Physical Damage to Attacks
Entombing 77 Adds (16–24) to (25–37) Cold damage to Attacks

[slim cobalt]

if it poisons as though hitting, does the damage of the poison begin with the damage of the hit rather than 20% of the hit? my brain is breaking

[wet mango]

I'm not sure what you're asking

[night shadow]

I only can think physical damage to attacks is lower just because it is almost all the time converted

[wet mango]

Wdym "starts with"

Poison default magnitude is 20% of the size of the hit

So you start with the hit

And take 20% of it

And that your poison dps

[slim cobalt]

okay that's what i thought originally but then "poisons as though hitting" is messing with my brain

[wet mango]

Wdym same size but bigger

That's contradictory

[wet mango]

I mean how do you poison things

You have to hit them

So gs arrow does a "pretend hit" which will poison them

[slim cobalt]

hmm okay

[wet mango]

(but jk the hit itself isn't real and won't do dmg)

[slate trench]

Quick question (bug?) about Galvanic Shard:
There are two tabs in the skill description, "Projectile" and "Beam"
I have 27 lightning penetration from my skill tree (6+15+6) and I would like to clarify some things:

• When I put a Lightning Penetration support on the skill, the "Projectile" part correctly shows 57% lightning penetration - so far so good
• When I remove Lightning Penetration support, NO penetration shows (bug?), instead of just the 27%
• Whether the pen support is in or not, the "Beam" part doesn't show anything... bug? does the beam not benefit from the lightning pen?

[tender harbor]

Is time freeze a mark spell

[grave spire]

On that bow node that says “projectile speed increases and decrease apply to damage,” is that reductions and increases equal increases, or is it reductions equal reduced damage and increases equal increased damage?

[night shadow]

the average damage for each element is bigger the phy average on RING. And I'm wandering why is that. The only explanation in my mind is that because phy is converted to other elements almost all the time so that is why is lower.

Why I'm asking this question is because on the weapon is a total different story, the phy damage is added to the base weapon damage before the local % increase phy is applied and then it make sense to be lower.

[wet mango]

It might show in a diff section (good text) if all your pen is coming from passives

[wet mango]

The latter. Increases and reductions don't change, they just also apply to dmg

[slate trench]

let me check

[wet mango]

You're asking a game design question, lol. Idk

[night shadow]

yea. Sorry :P. I was just curious.

[slate trench]

yes, you are correct for the projectile... then the question, is, why is it incon,sistent xD

but at least i know lightning pen iss indeed useful

[lusty surge]

is herald bug gfixed?

[wet mango]

Be more specifc, what bug

[dense bramble]

how would i fit in blink with archmage on temporalis? or do i just ditch archmage

[lusty surge]

the spirit ug

[tiny plaza]

totem count as a allie?

[hallow wadi]

what is the difference between add damage and add damage to attacks?

[atomic halo]

added damage on a martial weapon will only apply to attacks with that weaopn

added damage from all other sources will apply to all skills, including spells

added damage to attacks will apply to all attacks

[supple crag]

lightning conduit quality increase says it gives a 20% chance to reapply shock. If I use a support gem that gives a skill +100% chance to shock, does that mean it would have 40% chance to reapply shock?

[atomic halo]

i doubt it

reapply is something separate

[supple crag]

wish there was a boss I could try stuff on somewhere

[halcyon solar]

to sustain Delirium it's not just about staying in the fog you also have to quickly kill as many Dilirium monsters as possible, right?

[atomic halo]

the fog just moves

its speed is not affected by your kills

[upbeat ivy]

i inputted the first tab of this spreadsheet using poe2 planner on maxroll

anyway to avoid doing the other tabs in game?

[halcyon solar]

yeah sure, but i'm under the impression that if you slow down in culling monsters the timer will run out aswell?

[minor mica]

Looking for ingenuity utility belt. Anyone know where it drops?

[halcyon solar]

bosses

[minor mica]

Any specific one? Or just run em all

[halcyon solar]

not a specific one, but it's boss only

[minor mica]

Thank you

[gusty dawn]

I really can't think of a single use for Shard Scavenger, what am I missing?

"Instantly reloads your Crossbow upon Consuming
Freeze, Shock, Ignite, or Fully Broken Armour, no more than
once every (8.1–10) seconds"

Even if th cooldown was per ailment type it would still seem horrid.

[young hinge]

plasma blast?

[gusty dawn]

Plasma blast reload time still hardly exists, but if it was so you could rapid fire you would still need the cooldown to be more like every 1.5-2 seconds instead of 8-10

while also having a way to sustain the payoff requirement

[young hinge]

does anything have long reload?

[rich bolt]

Looking at a concoction path finder bleeding looked cool but I heard bleed is in a bad spot?

[copper sand]

Need an opinion, I'm running a sorceress with spark,using widowhail bow and a quiver, I'm wondering if I should get blasphemy to toss my conductivity on so it's an aura and not a cast spell

So it hits all enemies that come close instead me having to cast it and take the chance of it not hitting

[pale oak]

is this good for 3divs?

[leaden salmon]

Can someone help? I had the two Weapon Set passive skill trees running. Now that I unspecced to spec into another tree my points vanished.

[drifting cedar]

widowhail with +2 quiver or +5 bow with +2 quiver?

isnt +5 bow better?

[fiery wave]

is there any generic way to get faster besides having 35% movement speed boots? like am i missing sth

[drifting cedar]

movement speed is at a premium in this one

deadeye, movement speed on tree

[fiery wave]

yeah thats why i dont spec off demon form

i cant

40% ms boost in sekhema feels so good i have 10% on runes too

proper speed

[drifting cedar]

demon form makes you move faster?

[fiery wave]

your dodge is over half the screen

[drifting cedar]

oh right

the swoop

[fiery wave]

and low cd/recovery

so i just keep hammering space

i cant find any proper 35% ms boots people want like 10-50 divine and then my res is messed up lol

[drifting cedar]

gamble all your gold away

[fiery wave]

for literally a worse boot than i have

[drifting cedar]

on shoes

[fiery wave]

can you hit ilevel 82 shoes?

[drifting cedar]

oh uhh idk. dont think so

[fiery wave]

35% is from ilevel 82 plus

ive been farming logbooks and crafting boots bc of that

but my sales arent great rn i didnt look into which build needs which base

[drifting cedar]

I admire the hustle. when I am faced with similar dilemnas I settle for less stats immediately

[fiery wave]

also for some reason i havent dropped int boots

and then after like 30 boots i realized my loot filter didnt distinguish between ilevel 82 advanced and expert boots LUL

so i crafted some 5 div boots on the wrong base 😉

but yeah now your questions scrolled off, sorry for that

[granite hatch]

is howa a big damage boost for ice strike monk

or is it even necessary

[drifting cedar]

its not necessary, and its a whole different build

but its a lot of damage

[granite hatch]

hmm okay

i have 7 div rn and im not sure what to get to make my build better

i was planning on getting an ingenuity but i looked at good rolled ones and theyre like 20 div+

[fiery wave]

im saving my next stack of divs for adorned diamond i think its the best power boost

i have 6 jewels

[sharp urchin]

can anyone link a good leveling build for blood mage?

[silent karma]

Kind of new to the game so it may be a dumb question
I'm planning on building an Auto attack based build with some blood loss passives and skills
There are some notes that increases area of attack and was wondering if that applies to aa?

[fiery wave]

but maybe the price rises faster than i earn divs xD

[viral crag]

Bit late to this one, but I don't see any reason why it would be. Mark is a keyword and a tag that would have been present on the skill if so.
If still unsure, try using like Sniper's Mark or something then casting Time Freeze. Each enemy can only have one Mark on them 👍

[proven iris]

what mercenary attributes should be priotized? Str, Dex, Int

[drifting cedar]

mercenary is pretty broad. if you mean just a classic crossbow build, you'll need str and dex to equip crossbows

unless you go gemling, then you can stack one of anything

[lucid mango]

can i ask a question about 2 different quarterstaves and somehting im confused about? idk if this is the right channel but

ive got 2 quarterstaves that have similar DPS but one has 50% elem dmg to atk and one has +6 to gems, why is it that even tho the dmg drop in hideout is 108k->85k, it feels like i need 3-4x the number of hits on an enemy? the rest of the stats are near identical except the one with smaller number has higher crit dmg bonus but still feels slower

im usign ice strike invoker ^

[oak jetty]

Does anyone know if the 'Lose 0.5% of Life per second per Demonflame' from Demonform interrupts the Life Recharge from Tetzlapokal's Desire? Thinking about an alternative method than stacking regen 😛

[snow ridge]

spending life/mana/es for spells disrupts recharging in POE2 unlike in poe1, right?

[mint citrus]

is it possible to know how much more evasion rating i need for 70% evasion?

i have 50% atm

(with acrobatics

[brisk glade]

Like life flask stacking?

[oak jetty]

thinking about stacking es recharge, which should boost life recharge. Then with ES protecting your life i'm hoping the recharge can counter the life loss.

nvm, doesnt' seem to work 😦

[true sparrow]

For minions, how do you call them back to you if you set a destination for them? Do they come back to you after you leave the screen?

Don't want to keep micromanaging them I mean.

[brazen verge]

Any gemling here? I'm considering venom crypts reward 10% chaos vs 5+ attributes. Chaos seems a no brainer, right?

[broken nova]

Im a stat stacker

Ngl i didnt even choose that yet and im lvl 86

lol

[atomic halo]

which one felt better? the edwa or the + levels?

[lucid mango]

the + levels, but at 90mp+ for each ice strike its crazy

but it didnt feel 15% 20% better like the tooltip suggested, it felt like 3-4x better

a boss i beat in like 3 strikes regularly in trial of sekhema took me like 10 15

[atomic halo]

that makes sense

• levels should be much better

the issue is that tooltip dps doesn't agree?

[lucid mango]

yeah kinda, but also

should it really be THAT much better? i get that tooltip says 20% ish better, it makes sense i think, but it feels 3x better

[upbeat ivy]

chat how cooked am i?

[atomic halo]

tbh i can't really answer that, 20% makes senses to me

[upbeat ivy]

can get to fire res cap

[lucid mango]

me too

[upbeat ivy]

i have 2 socket slots left

[atomic halo]

sending images of the weps might help

but it may just be the nature of poe2 combat

[brazen verge]

I'm 79 lol indeed

[atomic halo]

if you deal a lot of damage, you get stuns & freezes & get to deal more damage

[brazen verge]

didnt even choose my ascendancy

[broken nova]

Oke wtf

💀

[lucid mango]

it just feels like the one on the left, without +gems, should be close enough to the dmg of the other one

[civic summit]

Im still trying to pick a build for my 2nd character, I've been maining monk and looking for something different but I didn't like delay on grenades, lightning archer bossing, or spark in early levels

[brazen verge]

I'm an indecisive person

[civic summit]

Any suggestions?

[brazen verge]

🤷‍♂️ 💀

[broken nova]

Stat stacking fr fr

[atomic halo]

i guess today we learned just how important + levels is

[lucid mango]

indeed

[lusty surge]

is this bugged?

[atomic halo]

in what way

[viscid sapphire]

how big of a dps increase is hand of wisdom and action on lightning arrow build

someone can tell?

[atomic halo]

a good deal, last i heard like 50%

[velvet blade]

Armour Explosion Support triggers an explosion when the supporting skill fully breaks an enemy's armour. It reads: "Converts 100% of physical damage to fire damage". Does this mean you need to have base physical damage for the explosion to deal any damage at all?

[atomic halo]

well, you need some sort of base damage

if you base damage is all fire for example, it will just deal that fire damage

* fire

[lusty surge]

is it calculating on my base shield?

or its just bugged?

[velvet blade]

What if you have base lightning damage?

[atomic halo]

it will just deal lightning damage.

[young hinge]

hw much int u got

[viscid sapphire]

around 100

my gear is pretty mediocre

[atomic halo]

by "just" i dont mean "only" btw

[velvet blade]

Really? because it doesn't have any %damage information on the support gem anywhere like attacks do

[lucid mango]

i think its a bit bugged in how it shows, but the calculation shouold be correct? i think its additive with other multipliers but doesnt show the right total

[young hinge]

hw much dex

[atomic halo]

im trying to say that it will deal the damage you have, it's not that deep.

[viscid sapphire]

22

220

[velvet blade]

Oh I can't read. It does deal 100% of base damage

[atomic halo]

yeah

[velvet blade]

Thank you though