2┃build-planning

[still rock]

and they only made it worse on accident by doing specter quality of life changes to desecrate

[drifting cedar]

the bolts will hit your bell more lol

[still rock]

poe2 is much smaller scope to balance tbh, theyve done that much on purpose

[topaz talon]

because I cant use orb of storms normally with a quarterstaff? thx for helping

[still rock]

meta gems for example - they can balance the energy generation as a function instead of previously having to just gut whole interactions

[drifting cedar]

you can use orb of storms normally but its a slow spell and you probably dont have cast speed

so this just automates that for you

[hollow galleon]

yeah it just worries me when u have builds like archmage or pocg w/howa one shotting pinnacle bosses that you know, I wanna try out fun builds but I'm like...why am I nowhere near close to 3 million DPS lol
and then I just hope they somewhat nerf it
not to mention the armor problem - why stack armor if it does nothing against big hits

[drifting cedar]

idk how good this will actually be if not using lightning attack skills tbf

[still rock]

youll learn to enjoy playing fun builds for the sake of it, if you compare everything to top end then it sucks enjoyment out of the game (speaking from a chad hipster build enjoyer)

theres always going to be meta

[drifting cedar]

yeah, for a lot of us in this channel finding weird interactions and making builds work IS the game

[hollow galleon]

yeah I'm usually an underdog build player...but the difference is in cRPGs, the underdog doesnt do that much less damage compared to top end builds...here it's like 50K DPS compared to 3-4 MILLION DPS lol

[still rock]

those are clearly overtuned interactions most likely

[drifting cedar]

I would expect some nerfs on outliers

[still rock]

this being EA means thats going to happen

[drifting cedar]

making howa a glove slot was certainly a choice

as well as giving int lightning scaling, mana spell scaling, and archmage being huge

all at the same time

and 100% mom

[hollow galleon]

3 million on ice strike, not my toon btw lol and can prob reach 4 million

[tropic pelican]

Will ingenuity belt give bonuses for implicits as well?

[drifting cedar]

yes

[tropic pelican]

As well as all the explicits?

That’s wild

[drifting cedar]

every stat on the ring

[tropic pelican]

No wonder they’re so damn pricey

[still rock]

i generally dont mind meta when its a cool interaction, like even though DD was the best for so long i thought the creativity using desecrate saved minions was fun, but just having attribute stacking be the best build is so zzzzzzzzzz

[tropic pelican]

Trying to find a 58% one for 8 divine now

[drifting cedar]

especially coming from energy blade ivory tower supremacy in poe 1

its just like the same thing again

[hollow galleon]

not only that but attribute stacking to me is like ignoring most of the nodes and just focusing on the boring attributes + jewels lol

why have a big funny tree if u dont plan out the nodes individually etc

the nodes they get is just more attributes, like jack of all trades

[drifting cedar]

tree too big. i want sprinter spell channeler pathfinder to work better

pathfinder hard to make spellcaster

[still rock]

tbf a lot of the tree just sucks ass so most good builds are just taking as many jewels as possible

thats on ggg tbh

[hollow galleon]

hopefully they fix that too

[still rock]

it was like this in poe1 too like before cluster jewels existed even

[hollow galleon]

the Tree appeals to me much more than D4 skill system...but hey, give us better nodes lool

[drifting cedar]

templar area is actually kinda stacked too but we can't go there efficiently and take cool stuff

very much looking forward to 1h + flail

[still rock]

on both my warriors i get the life regen over there

[tropic pelican]

If I need 100 lightning resistance, and have a 59% ingenuity belt (for instance), how much lightning resistance would I need on both my rings?

[alpine patio]

is anyone using this build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofKmUNA9ac&t=3s

[tropic pelican]

Sorry for interrupting as well

[drifting cedar]

nah no worries

[still rock]

i wish expedition was a bit better, it feels like poo farming for a drop from a boss and ignoring all the mechanics because the vendors blow

[still rock]

but yeah i leveled with fart arrow radient grief but didnt go very far into maps before respeccing

its good

[old aurora]

https://youtu.be/IU49qWGL0KA

does anyone know a place you can see this build?

[drifting cedar]

so you need 50 on each ring before the boost, and get a 59% boost. so you just do 50 / 1.59 or 31.44 resist per ring

[alpine patio]

what did you respec into?

[grand gorge]

what would yall say is the most broken warbringer build rn?

[still rock]

@alpine patio spiral volley snipe warbringer

[alpine patio]

uh

[still rock]

ar/eva sucks tho

[alpine patio]

whats that lol

[still rock]

so i shelved it for now

[alpine patio]

oh that wasnt for me XD

[still rock]

its like the frenzy deadeye builds but as warbringer

it was for you sorry

[somber pendant]

Does anyone know if prolonged fury in the skill tree applies to minions?

[still rock]

yell build

[somber pendant]

worded inherent loss of rage is slower

[topaz talon]

Any decent way to generate power charges without using frenzy conversion?

[tropic pelican]

Thanks Pent!

[alpine patio]

cant really do warbringer since im deadeye

[still rock]

doubtful

[still rock]

voll's, profane ritual

idk other reliable ones

[somber pendant]

hmm, would necromantic talisman apply annoints to minions?

[still rock]

power siphon ig but using a specific skill to cull is too annoying to be reliable

there was some russian dude playing flicker strike im trying to find his method

[somber pendant]

best power charge without conversion ive found was the dodge persistent skill that makes a copy

[topaz talon]

profane is great ty

[compact rune]

Does anyone have any experience using Frost Mage minions? Just made the switch over from Arsonists because I’ve heard they’re better but they just feel so much worse and the damage feels very lacklustre in comparison — not sure if I’m overlooking something important 😭

[somber pendant]

Im trying to juice my reavers rage mechanics, either through necromantic talisman or some other means

[maiden parcel]

whats like the fastest someone got to engame? anyone knows?

[grand gorge]

defo satire lmao

[still rock]

warcry lol

you yell a lot

its probably the best warbringer build thats been optimized atm

afaik

theres also totem builds

but idk i think totem is probably just better as a titan anyways

[drifting cedar]

warcry build feels like a very complete build

thematic, works well, scaling isn't insane, has a decently high ceiling

downside..takes a while to be able to do it. need 2 ascendancies

[still rock]

buy a bow, radient grief and fart arrow til 2nd ascend

[drifting cedar]

true

or pillar + jarngreipr + 2 storm runes

clicking str anyway

[still rock]

its hilarious that at launch it did like double the dmg it does now because its still busted currently

i did fart arrow leveling on one warrior and pillar on second

[kind finch]

if anyone is interested - DUO aurabot build with 75% block and huge crit scaling buff, and aura scaled tri curse for hitting 100% temp chains and 75% res reduction

[drifting cedar]

i havent done arrow on a non bow build yet

pretty solid?

[still rock]

fart arrow was easier but i also randomly slammed an insane leveling bow

[drifting cedar]

ah

[grand gorge]

by 2 ascendencies, do you mean, in total 4 ascendency points?

[drifting cedar]

yes

[grand gorge]

mhm

[drifting cedar]

you need 4 points in warbringer to have no warcry cooldown

or, for non warbringer, you need to get seismic cry

[quasi sandal]

Hey I'm new to deadeye. When you cast orb of storms with unleash at two charges and you have the gem that lets you have two order of storms, It appears as if it's just casting one. Is it actually casting two on top of each other so it looks like one? But both are still doing damage?

[drifting cedar]

which happens around the same time, but is worse / different

titan seismic cry yeller has a bit lower damage since he has to use pin support iirc, but better aoe

could do a big tanky gemling seismic yeller too i guess

[jade stone]

Thinking of selling off my sparker and starting a new char.. have a gemling and deadeye around level 85 each. What do yall think is a fun build for breach farming and stuff that won’t get gutted

[still rock]

Yeah they're like super tightly stacked

you can kinda see the difference if you unsocket overabundance

[jade stone]

If items sell will have about 50- div an ingenuity and a massive controlled metamorphosis

[drifting cedar]

anything that relies on stat stacking, archmage, or herald of ice + thunder is in danger rn

which is maybe everything that is "good"

[slender bone]

Is 61.6 Crit chance enough for Ice Strike ? I have taken about all the nodes with Crit Chance from Monk

[jade stone]

That’s what I’m afraid of lol

I guess ill just keep going with this until patch notes drop

[still rock]

tbh my flameblaster is very good at breach because fiery death

and theres not way in hell its getting nerfed lol

[drifting cedar]

also fire spell gear is cheap relatively im sure

[jade stone]

What’s a flame blaster? Witch hunter?

[clear sluice]

What's the big difference between shockwave totem and ancestral warrior totem?

[jade stone]

Or is it a fire spell

[still rock]

i play it as titan but more commonly seen as blood mage for crit

its a fire spell

[jade stone]

Ah ok

[drifting cedar]

shockwave totem does its own attack. ancestral is a meta gem that you decide what slam it uses

[still rock]

i play non crit scaling but with "crit recently" effects

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/tonvo0vp

[drifting cedar]

are you doing ignite flameblaster?

[clear sluice]

So 1 less support. Any immediate benefits?

[still rock]

sort of

[turbid cargo]

Does anyone know if elemental damage with attacks would add to herald of ice damage?

[old aurora]

If you took the mercenary class and something like gemlin would it be possible to build a warrior kind of class like this: out of it?

[slender bone]

Is 61.6 Crit chance enough for Ice Strike or should I spec into flat damage ? I have taken about all the nodes with Crit Chance from Monk

[drifting cedar]

the attacks that ancestral uses may be better / more convenient / have higher aoe / more dps than the shockwave totem attack

[still rock]

Ill be more clear - if they buff ignite im going tto invest more in ailment faster jewels

[clear sluice]

Gemling can warrior

[still rock]

but as of now im not

[clear sluice]

So it's a matter of finding good tech then.

[turbid cargo]

Does anyone know if elemental damage with attacks would add to herald of ice damage?

[drifting cedar]

yes, it is an attack

[turbid cargo]

Thank you 👍🏻

[jade stone]

Might go witch hunter with the pops if everything goes to hell

Explosive bolt looked fun

[drifting cedar]

witch hunter on low gear is actually super fun

[astral badger]

anyone know what skill/gear/etc. allows this player to slide around rather than dodge roll? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_PTaYNWOs&t=1121s

[drifting cedar]

very excited for axes / swords

[still rock]

I want to try witch hunter still

[drifting cedar]

double weapon witch hunter is legit

[still rock]

but yeah im waiting for better melee

[drifting cedar]

mace doesnt feel QUITE right

[jade stone]

I wanted to start as it but saw monk and had to try

[supple jay]

does magnified affect work with consecrated ground?

[drifting cedar]

my 2nd was a pure phys shotgun + hammer drop witch hunter

[worn prawn]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/1a1ap0zz Anyone can help me To improve my Spark Dmg? only 15k tooltip 😦

[still rock]

no supports dont support other supports

[supple jay]

damn so is there no way to make consecrated ground aoe bigger

[drifting cedar]

ah do they not? does something like armour explosion not get supported?

[supple jay]

using it with leap slam rn and the radius is tiny

[still rock]

afaik it doesnt

but it does get general area %

[drifting cedar]

surely supports get supported. corrupting cry is a support

[supple jay]

oh yeah what about corrupting cry and damage supports

[clear sluice]

How to shockwave totem gamers explode the screen? I've found out that a 2nd shockwave gem with amour explosion works for packs. But I would like to remove every mob from the map with one totem 😦

Or close to it

[supple jay]

like corrupting cry and swift affliction

[still rock]

as far as i can tell with other interactions from supports that add "skill" like effects, the other supports dont seem to boost them but let me test the corrupting cry example

[drifting cedar]

im like 95% sure brutality increases corrupting cry damage

[scenic timber]

Is there a way to do archmage + stormweaver + three dragons and still get shocks? I've tried speccing into "gain 8% of damage as extra fire" but nothing shocks. I even have "gain 22% of damage as extra fire" on my wand

[drifting cedar]

gain as extra does not work well with archmage

[scenic timber]

shaper of storms doesn't work

[supple jay]

in the advanced info it does

[drifting cedar]

your gain as extra is going off your base damage before archmage

[clear sluice]

Why 3dragons if you have native shock on any damage?

[scenic timber]

yeah, I'm aware of that, but I'm just trying to do it for shock, not for more dps

[scenic timber]

everything is always frozen and shattering. It's incredible

[drifting cedar]

you could use a fire spell i guess

[clear sluice]

Use explosive shot 🙂

[still rock]

I think I noticed the disparity on corrupting cry

[clear sluice]

Or remove the helmet and shock with any big damage

[scenic timber]

I did an ultimatum yesterday and nothing was even able to hit me because of the freeze

[drifting cedar]

or use call of the brotherhood and freeze with your base damage and shock with the archmage damage

[clear sluice]

I want a stormweaver crossbower

[scenic timber]

doesn't CotB really ruin archmage damage?

[still rock]

corrupting cry makes the main skill inflict the debuff, whereas something like armour explosion just triggers independently

atleast the wording would imply that

[drifting cedar]

no, archmage damage can't be converted

[old aurora]

if youre going to make youre own custom kind of class thing is gemling ideal due to the stat increase ascendencies?

[clear sluice]

Not ideal but its good for a lot. Takes a bit of knowhow.

[scenic timber]

right, but it makes all your lightning damage into cold, so wouldn't archmage do nothing?

[clear sluice]

And fwiw every build is a custom class 🙂

[scenic timber]

or am I missing something

[old aurora]

Looking at aproximating this but with gemling

[drifting cedar]

nope! archmage is just gain damage as extra damage. doesn't need to start as lightning damage

thats why I said you could use a fire spell

[clear sluice]

Gemling can do warrior for sure

[scenic timber]

ahhhhh

[still rock]

im gunna test armor explosion and mag effect rq

[clear sluice]

My gemling is running double mace with lvl 39 shockwave totems ATM 🙂

[old aurora]

do you like it?

[drifting cedar]

the big booms, nice

[clear sluice]

I like it

[drifting cedar]

how much hp you got on that bad boy

[upbeat ivy]

whats thius worth?>?

[old aurora]

does losing the warrior ascendies matter much?

[clear sluice]

2 div for +14 gem levels and 60 str

Ezpz

[clear sluice]

No

[drifting cedar]

I wonder if you can get +7 gem levels on the super low level 2h maces

just high ilvl, low base

or is that too rare

then you wouldn't need a ton of str for giants blood

[clear sluice]

Depends on when +7 start appearing

[scenic timber]

I did see someone suggest COTB + shaper of storms, but I wasn't sure if that was a good call... It does mean you probably don't want lightning damage increase passives anymore because your damage is going to be split between lightning and cold

[drifting cedar]

most of your damage will still be lightning

[clear sluice]

I got almost 900 str i can wield 4 maces soon

[still rock]

Hm this is hard to test because armour explosion radius is so small as it is but it doesnt seem to be bigger

[drifting cedar]

put brutality on and see if it does damage

armour explosion does 100% fire convert by default

[still rock]

true

[scenic timber]

interesting... It will take some tweaking, and I don't like losing out on a ring socket, but I think this could be really good.

[still rock]

punching mobs in act 1 with armour explosion is a good stress relief

shame most people wont see this animation its actually good lol

[clear sluice]

Explosions carry campaign

[upbeat ivy]

are any of these worth anything?

[scenic timber]

I think it's likely a bug that three dragons and shaper of storms doesn't work together and let lightning damage both freeze and shock. I've seen people say it lets all other damage types shock as well as ignite or freeze, but lightning damage just freezes when three dragons is on

[drifting cedar]

this channel is for planning builds, please do not price check here

[drifting cedar]

Its not actually that surprising to me, since three dragons says "can not" which I believe supersedes "always"

[old aurora]

sent you a dm

[still rock]

Ah, i stand corrected then, brutality seems to affect armour explosion

the explosion still happens but it doesnt do damage

[drifting cedar]

thanks for testing!

[scenic timber]

I guess the "instead of shock" overrides the "all damage contributes to shock"

[astral badger]

I'm playing a cryoshock lightning warp sorc right now. T16+. What else can I do to increase DPS besides cast speed/damage boosts on gear, upgrading gem quality, and jewels?

[drifting cedar]

do like a cast on freeze + firestorm or something with all shock supports

might work for bosses idk

[scenic timber]

that could... My gear is a bit tight on spirit. Might need to offhand a scepter to test this

[still rock]

are you capped on your available sources of +spells?

[drifting cedar]

oh idk if id do that

[still rock]

+5 onehand +2 focus +3 ammy

[astral badger]

My wand has +4 cold skills, but thats it.

[still rock]

thatll be your biggest damage increase

[scenic timber]

I want to get a new body armor with enough spirit on it

[astral badger]

and thats found on gear only right?

[still rock]

theres one +1 cold on tree

[astral badger]

oh yeah I have that one

[still rock]

but normally yes

[astral badger]

I'll see if I can find a wand with +4 or 5 ALL skills, not just cold.

[still rock]

+5 is only for the specific damage types

all spells only goes to 4 i think

[astral badger]

Got it, thanks!

[drifting cedar]

then you just vaal it for another +1

5% of the time it works every time

[still rock]

do you have +3 amulet already?

thats normally the last upgrade since it can be expensive (aside from jewels)

[astral badger]

I don't, since those are super expensive. I lucked out and vaal'd a wild roll of Ventor's Gamble, which I'm looking to sell tonight.

The profit from that will likely go toward a new chest, wand, and amulet

[still rock]

half my stash is full of shit waiting to sell

90% of my sales are to koreans or chinese at 3am though

dunno why

[drifting cedar]

have you considered simply being broke and using garbage items

thats my strat

seems to be working

the key is to roll new builds obsessively before your current builds have a chance to make money

[still rock]

thats called ssf

im probably going to repurpose my warbringer somehow

i want to make use of the negative armor without leaning into bows because ar/eva is absolutely terrible currently

aside maybe from withc hunter but idk how good sorcery ward even is

[astral badger]

Can gear be transferred between characters? I only have 1 char rn

[drifting cedar]

do warcry warbringer but scale the hit from seismic cry

yes, stash is shared

[astral badger]

oh nice! is it shared between seasons or only for chars in the same season?

[drifting cedar]

in the same season (we call them leagues here) and the same game mode

so no softcore > hardcore transfer either

[still rock]

yeah yell build will work ig but its not hipster enough

[astral badger]

Gotcha thanks!

[still rock]

phys spells suck poop

i want blade vortex

[drifting cedar]

instead of corrupting cry, do bleed seismic yeller

with aggravation boots

the downside is, it does almost no damage

[still rock]

why wouldnt i just do both lol

[drifting cedar]

because there's no crimson dance

so spamming is no good

[still rock]

is the phys daze stuff from qstaff any good

wind blast and the vaulting thing

[drifting cedar]

daze seems honestly really bad in general

idk. when i build stunners i never wish I also had daze. maybe im using it wrong

[still rock]

i was bummed to find out area just makes the cone longer

instead of wider at the source

[drifting cedar]

oh what about flash grenade warbringer

thats a phys skill

and it does stun stuff

[dull spade]

Is anyone proficient here with demon barrier invocation?

[still rock]

sounds good i havent done xbows yet

wanted to try

[clear sluice]

crossbows are so good

[drifting cedar]

the phys xbow skills are just not as nice as the ele xbow skills

but if i was going to do pure phys xbow itd be warbringer

[still rock]

phys in general

follows that line

[clear sluice]

if we could have 2 crossbows with giants blood i would do crossbow totam

[drifting cedar]

axe/sword + crossbow warbringer might be fun in the future

[still rock]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-dual-guns-crazy-people-gif-21026588

[drifting cedar]

hoping one of the unreleased crossbow skills is a big phys skill

the only issue with doing crossbow warbringer is, what do you do after you get armor break?

totems? corpse pops?

[still rock]

i tried weapon swap xbow totem for shits n giggles but i didnt scale it properly

[clear sluice]

just dodge

[drifting cedar]

i mean ascendancy choices

[still rock]

the totem minions from warbringer are really not great

theyre ok ig

[clear sluice]

if totems, the ancestral stuff?

[drifting cedar]

you could do a weapon swap totem and go double crossbow i guess

[clear sluice]

whichever adds more to the output 🙂

[drifting cedar]

with a +7 crossbow on swap and just a totem tree

or shockwave totems or w/e

[clear sluice]

im moving towards having 2 shockwave totem gems just next to eachother no swap

[still rock]

what i did with bows was just 10% pdr and totem minion

one of them gives you rage

but its so unreliable

[drifting cedar]

thats something

put font of rage on the totem itself too?

[still rock]

i did but the area is tiny

unfortunately

[clear sluice]

i heard some do even with the gemling shockbursting

rage font

[drifting cedar]

wat

[clear sluice]

yes

[still rock]

i ended up just using shockwave totem to be an impediment to mobs from kenya

[thorny token]

its better to link fonts to oos than to totem most of the time anyway

as oos cant die

[drifting cedar]

lightning stays winning

[clear sluice]

perhaps someone can answer me

elemental flat weapon damage, does this transfer to totems?

[still rock]

shattering palm projectiles are phys right?

[still rock]

what source

[drifting cedar]

i don't know, poe2db is down and I dont know anything now

[still rock]

im not even sure if they get the glove flat dmg or not but they for sure dont get your weapon dmg in this game

[clear sluice]

this with shockwave totem

[still rock]

no they have their own weapon dmg source

i imagine % increased wed would work though

[still rock]

hmm odd

whats the point of the line saying they have their own dmg then

[drifting cedar]

tbh totems are pretty broken in a few ways

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Hrimnor's_Hymn

like this should not give totems shockwaves, right? we can all agree with that

but it does

[clear sluice]

either the implicit phys is just an override for base phys damage and then the whatever other modifiers from weapon still applies

[still rock]

does that work with totems

[drifting cedar]

yeah but its almost 100% a bug

the text on the hammer basically should only exist to preclude it working with totems

[clear sluice]

true

[still rock]

your totems are you but you are not your totems

i think

[clear sluice]

so all we need now is a way for totems to equip 3 dragons

and run triple heralds

[drifting cedar]

do totems not inherit 3 dragons?

i would think they would

[clear sluice]

im joking but

[still rock]

do totems get herald buffs?

[clear sluice]

no

[still rock]

i didnt think so

[verbal perch]

does bloodlust work on elemental skill which has been converted?
does only the phys dmg get amplified? or all dmg which also had been converted applies?

[clear sluice]

but the thing im thinking about is getting triple elemental and forget about phys and experiment with ailments

[drifting cedar]

bloodlust will only work on the remaining physical portion of the skill

[verbal perch]

ty

[clear sluice]

as a gemling i can 8 more skills

[jaunty flame]

what passives could i feasibly hit with a small radius controlled metamorphosis jewel?

[clear sluice]

8 different shockwave totem links

[still rock]

piano totem build

plug in a midi keyboard

[clear sluice]

this more a drummer biuld

[drifting cedar]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Heft this skill, however, essentially breaks all the rules and gives you a chunk of phys damage anyway

but it stays phys and doesnt get converted

[drifting cedar]

so you have a clearing totem and a bossing totem?

[still rock]

heft is so confusing

they need to rephrase and recategorize it

[clear sluice]

my 6 link is for both but i am exploring a clearing option. so my 2ndary shockwave totem has devastate, armour explosion and magnified effect

[drifting cedar]

it actually is "gain 30% of maximum physical attack damage as extra maximum physical attack damage"

despite not saying attack on the gem

[still rock]

i figured it as much

[clear sluice]

but i might want to explore the 2ndary totem as an elemental source

[drifting cedar]

but thats way worse than what the gem says

[drifting cedar]

oo

you could also get a whole 2nd totem setup and just put overabundance on that setup

[clear sluice]

i am a gemling so i just put gem in socket

[drifting cedar]

so you have your big 6 link setup with just 3 totems and then +1 totem

[clear sluice]

interesting

[still rock]

i use two flameblasts on my flameblaster, it works really well

[clear sluice]

overabundance is in the mainlink

[drifting cedar]

you can break it off to the utility totem

[clear sluice]

wait

[drifting cedar]

if you figure out how to make a utility totem work

[clear sluice]

omg

thanks

its like +curse from spectres in poe 1

[still rock]

if you can get them to ignite fiery death is strong for breaches and such

[drifting cedar]

its like multi totem from poe 1

[still rock]

or is that only for spells

idr

[clear sluice]

i never totem in poe1 😄

[drifting cedar]

you could run your warrior totem and then multi totem your protector or w/e

[split skiff]

Anyone know why I can’t I socket ritualistic curse in blasphemy? It’s a support gem… I’m watching a guide and it’s being done.

[static plinth]

What the fuck

[drifting cedar]

any good ways to make the freeze > 100% more ignite support work?

[still rock]

ah u can use fiery death on attacks i think

[clear sluice]

ok overabundance in my off totem

[still rock]

i wanted to experiment eith it because thats the only significant source of ignite dmg since the magnitude one sucks

[clear sluice]

overabundance in main totem

so what happens i have 2 overabundance

[still rock]

but finding something to freeze reliably without being invested in cold dmg seems hard

[drifting cedar]

i assume nothing

but what this does is it lets you put a damage support in main totem instead of overabundance

[still rock]

maybe if you had a wand with % as extra cold

[drifting cedar]

IF you are using the utility totem for something and its better than just having 4 main totems

[still rock]

but then your ignites wouldnt be as good as if you had % as extra fire

[clear sluice]

2 x overabundance with gemling dual support ascend

didnt work

[drifting cedar]

infernalist high heat comet?

[drifting cedar]

this is identical to how this worked / didnt work in poe 1

[clear sluice]

fair

[drifting cedar]

you couldnt just get 10 totems with multitotem support and spam them

[static plinth]

If Ive got chaotic freeze going, should Frost Nexus go on the DoT or my hit skill

[clear sluice]

i vaguely recall my boneshattering days in poe1

[still rock]

hit

[clear sluice]

2 1 1 2 21 2 1

[static plinth]

God i hope they dont keep Reap as just phys skill that inflicts crit weakness

I need it to nuclear bomb my life value

It just isnt the same without that

Actually ig it was datamined for being a staff skill so maybe it'll be free

[still rock]

itd be nice to have a source of crit weakness that isnt eow

but if its a staff skill then unautomatable

so that sucks

[static plinth]

How long does Weakness last by default

[still rock]

let me test cause i actually dont know

[clear sluice]

also, gemstudded instead of implanted gems lowered my tooltip by 20k+

[earnest oracle]

bit confused, just had this item drop and vaaled it for 3 rune slots, how much mana would i get if i put this on with 3 2% mana increase cores at 3468 current, or how much rarity would i get if i put the 10% rarity cores on it, currently at 65%

[clear sluice]

worth 200k just to confirm

[earnest oracle]

cant decide which one is better

[static plinth]

30%

[earnest oracle]

with both?

[fading ether]

Does cast on dodge work with blink?

[static plinth]

30% mana, 150% rarity

[drifting cedar]

yes

[earnest oracle]

ok ty

[static plinth]

Core value * 5 * 3

Actually i think youd get slightly more rarity, 156 i think

[earnest oracle]

my GOAT, you know how much this would go for btw? i dont know if i should keep it or not

[drifting cedar]

core value * 6 * 3 for total no?

5 gives the increase

[static plinth]

Oh yeah

[still rock]

@static plinth seems like 4 seconds

no skill effect duration on this test

[static plinth]

Lol Reap is 1 by default, 1.5 with quality. Hopefully it makes it to the game better than that

[still rock]

if it just decreases 1 stack every 1.5s thats not too bad but thats not how eow works so i doubt it

[earnest oracle]

@acoustic hazel does either choice brick this item if i want to sell it on later? like do people only want the rarity slotted in or is mana still desirable

[surreal plover]

WTB ranger bow build 250 div budget. Needs 75+ evasion with acro, 80-100k tool tip dps, and be compatible with HH.

[atomic halo]

no trading here (on this server)

[still rock]

do you think this works with time freeze

doubtful but

you never know

[viral crag]

What are we asking works with time freeze? 😅

[still rock]

Frostfire

support

[kindred knot]

Hey there, do you know if there is a tool that lets me plan my passives like "automated" and attribute based? E.g. by just saying "I have X amount of skill points and wanna focus on the following things: Dex, lightning damage, attack speed etc" that spits out a possible passive path?

[still rock]

now im trying to think of how to make my flameblaster freeze

[viral crag]

It wouldn't because a hit has to deal damage. Freeze isn't a hit 😦

[still rock]

Just wondering if time freeze happens to count as being frozen

[viral crag]

Oh!

Also no.

[still rock]

i doubt it does but i wouldnt be surprised if it happened to

[viral crag]

Frozen is specifically the cold-induced ailment.

[pale oak]

hello just started a new playthrough with ranger i was wondering what build should i do on her?

[viral crag]

Yeah, after what we've seen I suppose I shouldn't assume things work as they should lol

[still rock]

i guess i could respec my chrono and test it

easy test with flame wall

oh wait it has to hit

[viral crag]

Right 😅

[still rock]

solar orb then

[tropic pelican]

Any way to filter for specific skill on prism of belief?

[viral crag]

Does incinerate hit? I expect so.

Oh, the hit has to ignite probably.

[still rock]

no it doesnt hit

but solar orb does so its fine

this is just to test

okay it doesnt

time freeze is cool tho that was my first time using it

lol

[rapid knot]

is there any page/sheet to know what affixes can be rolled with essences on different items?

[still rock]

poe2db has the crafting tags on the affixes

[upbeat ivy]

have a cheap minion build that can do t13 maps but want to swap to a non minion build (infernalist witch 4 ascendancy points) budget around 75 ex can someone help?

[static plinth]

I got mana on kill on a chaos essence once

[still rock]

those things

[steady ermine]

quick question, for weapon set skill points, can you not allocate jewel slots / major nodes?

[still rock]

wat

[small pilot]

Does the item Prayers for Rain include energy shield regen from the invoker monk's meditation?

[static plinth]

I slammed a bunch of withered wands at once, one of them had gain mana on kill instead of a chaos mod

[woeful sundial]

what should you socket on a pconcing widowhail?

[static plinth]

I assumed it bugged cuz i went to quick or something

[drifting cedar]

oh nope sorry had to step away

[dawn condor]

la
es
is
sprial volley

[still rock]

i tested it anyways

just to see

if bychance it did

[static plinth]

You could weaponswap with the funny dagger

[still rock]

(it doesnt)

[untold jacinth]

Anyone here tried the cryo telestomp sorc

[woeful sundial]

Lightning arrow, lightning rod, orb of storms

[still rock]

whats it called

[drifting cedar]

where are the daggers? have you hidden them from me?

[static plinth]

Winterbite i think?

[still rock]

is it not supposed to exist?

[static plinth]

You cant hit anything with the dagger but i htink it's unique mod should apply to spells

No lol

[static plinth]

Inside Ultimatum

[drifting cedar]

blink + spark on weapon swap with winterbite

[still rock]

oh only full life tho

[drifting cedar]

ez setup

[static plinth]

This thing

[static plinth]

Yeah, but hey at least one guaranteed freeze is good

[rapid knot]

uhm idk what this is, ingame overlay? or the website, never used website before

[drifting cedar]

that is poe2db

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Modifiers

[static plinth]

PoE2db.tw

[still rock]

click on the thing you want to see affixes for

[rapid knot]

ahhh nice yeh thats what im looking for thanks

[still rock]

theres only three of these daggers on trade and people trying to sell them for 2-4div thats nuts id expect it to be like a mirror if its a bugged drop

even if its useless

[static plinth]

Thing is it'll just become a normal drop eventually

I assume thats why people arent selling for a ton

[still rock]

i want one to play with

but spending 2 div on a 1ex unique seems silly

[woeful sundial]

what should you socket on a pconcing widowhail? does it even matter?

[static plinth]

Call it an investment, or something

You could always resell before daggers come out

[still rock]

i already did that with this +phys spell wand because of you

[midnight geode]

what is global damage?

[static plinth]

You did that of your own free will

[still rock]

the idea sounded promising

[static plinth]

This one im telling you to do

[still rock]

until i realized boner cage was a hoax

it really should say limit one on the skill

[static plinth]

Did you try putting Overabundance on it

[still rock]

it doesnt

support it

[static plinth]

Lame

[still rock]

tbf if it worked itd do good dmg as crit

it just was too hard to hit anything with it

[midnight bolt]

this looks sick for weaponswap on boss fight especially with nodes that inc freeze duration and ignore resists of frozen enemies

[static plinth]

Yeah, i think itll be a neat weaponswap

[still rock]

i need to start evaluating uniques as weapon swap bait

[midnight bolt]

tho it doesnt specify how long it frezes for

[atomic halo]

as opposed to local, which wouldnt make sense anyway

[static plinth]

Default length

Which i think is 2 seconds

[atomic halo]

so idk why ggg stated "global" there

[still rock]

normal freeze duration is 4s

but ya

[atomic halo]

it's just all physical damage you deal

[midnight geode]

i see

[still rock]

what things can chain off of lightning rod

does anyone have a list

[viral crag]

In poe, I believe this would have included things like bleeds for example.

Things that usually do not scale with physical otherwise.

Have not gotten to test and see if that's still a thing in poe2

[drifting cedar]

this is upsetting to hear

even if it was 1 limit on the skill, 3 cages would maybe be OK with overabundance + amulet

[still rock]

you can technically get three with spell cascade

so its more like "one instance" of boner cage at once

since cascade casts three at once

and echo oddly gives it two as well

i tried it with both but it nukes the dmg

[drifting cedar]

can you put fortress on it and just get a ring of circles

if not, thats no fun

[still rock]

no since its a nova

[drifting cedar]

oh right fortress specifies a line

[still rock]

has anyone done anything cool with frost wall with fortress

[spring temple]

i cast frost wall in a fortress and then it's like ❄️ 🧊 🌨️

i think it makes it better with cascade to just dump a bunch of frost walls

cascade without fortress kinda makes weird ugly/useless lines sometimes

[viral crag]

Was going to say, I think cascade is just so good with it that nobody is trying fortress.

[visual raven]

For titan build, if I am using sunder to eat armor break, does having increased armor break or increased damage during broken armor increase my sunder damage?

[spring temple]

oh i use cascade + fortress

[drifting cedar]

increased damage during armor break yes. increased armor break will just let you get to armor broken faster

[astral willow]

fortress + cascade, then use scattershot frostbolt + unleash cold snap to shatter the whole stack and clear a screen

[visual raven]

Thanks so the 60% more armor break node just makes break faster I won’t need if I’m full breaking on stun

[still rock]

thats fun

[dawn spire]

Wait you can shatter ice walls?

[drifting cedar]

do it with fragmentation rounds, because using a shotgun is cooler

[dawn spire]

Does freezing them grant frenzy charges from combat frenzy?

[astral willow]

if you do enough damage to the frost wall crystals yeah

[still rock]

yeah they have an explosion mechanic

i dont think they can be frozen

[drifting cedar]

fragmentation rounds always explode ice crystals

[dawn spire]

Oh. They said they were cold snapping the wall 😦

[still rock]

they used to have armor you could pop for armor explosion but they removed that

[astral willow]

no, you cold snap the frost bolt projectiles

[drifting cedar]

so did urns tbf

[astral willow]

inside the wall

[dawn spire]

Oh, wait, cold snap on the frostbolt

I see

[knotty elbow]

Are all explosions detonators or do only detonaotor skills really count??

[astral willow]

so rotation is orb of frost > wall > frostbolt > cold snap

[dawn spire]

It needs the detonator tag

[drifting cedar]

it needs to say detonator or satisfy some other explosion trigger, like ignite for gas

[viral crag]

Usually frostbolt in advance, to get it in position on time.

[knotty elbow]

:(

[drifting cedar]

hey so spears are 1h only right?

and no 2h flails either?

or is that unknown still?

[dawn spire]

Idk any information on that yet. I didn't hear it mentioned in any recent interviews

[still rock]

what does this line on CoC mean

its so confusing

is it referring to the damage the crit would deal?

[spring temple]

yes

[still rock]

no fun allowed

[drifting cedar]

do bigger crits, get more critical energy

[still rock]

[drifting cedar]

no zero damage cyclone coc

[spring temple]

it's using Ailment Threshold as a way to say "based on enemy life, but not 100% directly based on enemy life"

[drifting cedar]

or, less

[still rock]

well quill rain is useless then

[dawn spire]

I like it better that way because then lowering enemy ailment threshold is more worth

[still rock]

back in the stash you go

[spring temple]

just make your quill rain hit for 100k

[still rock]

[charred pecan]

Am i allowed to post my skill tree here with a SC?

[drifting cedar]

whats a SC

[charred pecan]

Screen shot

[dawn spire]

Ss

[drifting cedar]

yes

[charred pecan]

lol sorry

[drifting cedar]

you can post your skill tree here

[still rock]

screenchot

[placid ore]

how much cooldown reduction do I need on temporalis for my blink to be instant assuming I have +20 quality

[charred pecan]

Is this Bad ?

im using Gemling Legionnaier

[still rock]

i seriously cant think of any use for quill rain at all since almost everything is tied to damage now

[drifting cedar]

howa I reckon

[still rock]

oh it adds flat thats right

[charred pecan]

I would love to see a recmmond list of my class if anyone has it

[drifting cedar]

idk if its actually good but that's about the only thing I can think of

[drifting cedar]

I take it you're using lightning crossbow skills?

[charred pecan]

yeah i do

[jaunty flame]

i can't figure out a way to get damage on witch hunter without doing the doryani build

[still rock]

apparently just add howa seems to be the answer for every attack build

[jaunty flame]

been trying some of the other build variants

and even with HOWA and all that i just feel like i do no damage without my doryani's

granted, my build is -200% res

but even when i add res pen to like 0% and add voltaic mark

[drifting cedar]

i recommend, at least to start, going non-crit and taking the rest of that lightning tree in the bottom right for lucky damage

[jaunty flame]

it does like no damage

[drifting cedar]

crit crossbows is hard and lucky damage is stronger than you might think

[jaunty flame]

all the builds i see are just some variation of stat sticking

(for gemling)

[charred pecan]

@drifting cedar May i know what is lucky damage?

[jaunty flame]

and like there are no witch hunter builds

[drifting cedar]

rolls twice, chooses higher number

[jaunty flame]

that aren't like, objectively worse than if i played gemling

[still rock]

witch hunter sounds so good on paper but i had a feeling it was underwhelming due to the low amt of popularity

[drifting cedar]

witch hunter does seem to be an early game / undergeared spec

but its really nice when you are undergeared

[jaunty flame]

the way i see it now is

its like a breach farmer

cull + boom

to farm items for your other characters

[still rock]

hows the area on the pop

[drifting cedar]

my witch hunter used concentration + boom + weapon master

[jaunty flame]

the area on pop is

kinda ok actually

[drifting cedar]

concentration being a better boss killer than cull

[jaunty flame]

its like 1/4th of a screen

and it scales on the size of the thing that booms

[drifting cedar]

yeah the booms are nice, and its what carries you with no gear

[jaunty flame]

but its 10%

[drifting cedar]

kill a lot of big rares np

[jaunty flame]

on breach its 20%

so you get your stupid culling hat

take cull the hordes

you pop a regular enemy at like 80% hp

and it starts a chain reaction and booms the entire screen

[drifting cedar]

its not 80% hp is it

[jaunty flame]

rough spitball number

the myris uxor adds 100%

[still rock]

[jaunty flame]

cull base is like 30%

cull the hordes is +25% threshold

im assuming its (30 + 30) x 25%

[charred pecan]

@drifting cedar When i use the lighting skill with a crowsbow does that also consider as attack or just a skill?

[drifting cedar]

it is an attack and a skill

skills can be spells, attacks, warcries, soon traps I assume

[jaunty flame]

witch hunter might be the worst late game ascendency

but i have no idea about acolyte

[drifting cedar]

chonk is out there vying for it

[still rock]

what makes it worse than others

[static plinth]

Spears one-handed, cant be dual-wielded, idk about flails

[drifting cedar]

I think witch hunter isn't actually terrible

[jaunty flame]

concentration debuff is tied to the damage you do

40% of boss max hp

but it can go away

[static plinth]

Acolyte is 100% worse than Witchhunter

[jaunty flame]

xesht goes into floor = bye debuff

arbiter phase change = bye debuff

and half the time im not even sure it does anything

it says it slows down their action speed but i sure as hell don't notice it

[static plinth]

Not what it says

[drifting cedar]

its not action slow

its cooldown slow

[static plinth]

It slows down cooldown recovery rate

They use their big moves less

[drifting cedar]

they use their big fight ending skills less

[jaunty flame]

cooldown recovery rate

[drifting cedar]

its noticeable on some bosses

[jaunty flame]

I legit

have never noticed it

ive done all pinnacles besides logbook

(can't drop for some reason)

[drifting cedar]

well, that's more than me. I get into mid maps and reroll

[jaunty flame]

far as im concerned it might as well not exist

what makes witch hunter bad is just that his stuff doesn't scale beyond mobbing

[still rock]

im just gunna play everything as titan from now on

[jaunty flame]

sorc ward is like

why does it eat 50% of my eva and armor and not even give me the full value back

[drifting cedar]

They could probably just get rid of the physical defense reduction on sorc ward and it'd be alright

[jaunty flame]

and

it has a quality upgrade

but you can't quality it because its from an ascendancy

[static plinth]

That goes for every ascendancy skill

[jaunty flame]

yea it sucks

and decimating strike being rng

[drifting cedar]

poor gemling, the only guy who could quality ascendancy skills

but he has none

[jaunty flame]

means its either the most godlike ascendancy

or the most mediocre

5% or 30%

[static plinth]

Theoretically relevant if we get quality from gear at some point

[still rock]

5th ascend

inc

[jaunty flame]

like the best thing i see about witch hunter

is very early breach farming

[drifting cedar]

there've always been ascendancies that have high floors and low ceilings, or low floors and high ceilings

I don't know if that will ever change

[jaunty flame]

thats fine

[still rock]

i mean we're a month in now so being a good starter character has a lot of use

but its past that point already

[jaunty flame]

but why does he get an ascendancy skill that is a detriment

to the first 2 levels you get it

[static plinth]

You would hate Witch's ascendancies lol

[drifting cedar]

yeah i was gonna say, thats just bloodmage and infernalist

[jaunty flame]

infernalist gets the dog

[drifting cedar]

esp bloodmage

[jaunty flame]

so like

bloodmage has a decent ish ceiling

imo

[drifting cedar]

it does yeah

[jaunty flame]

witch hunter

i put like

3x the divines of my infernalist friend

he has 20k energy shield

and physically cant die

[drifting cedar]

thats a whole other issue

[jaunty flame]

like the only thing keeping witch hunter alive

is shockburst rounds

and thats hilariously overtuned

[still rock]

ar/eva seems pretty awful

[jaunty flame]

once its gone theres no reason for me to play crossbow anymore

[still rock]

in general

[drifting cedar]

thats just because ar is so awful

[static plinth]

I have faith that Witchhunter's +20 set points will eventually be relevant

[drifting cedar]

ar/eva would be fine if the ar formula made sense

[jaunty flame]

+20 set points

[still rock]

i had my bow warbringer as ar/eva and he dies to a fly

[jaunty flame]

but you don't get any additional skill slots to go with it

how do you fit grim feast + wind dancer to boost sorc ward

with all those

[drifting cedar]

I was thinking about doing a bow + totem witch hunter with the weapon points

probably bad but

[static plinth]

Unset ring base

[drifting cedar]

the points would make it possible

[jaunty flame]

but

why would you ever use unset rings

when breach rings are god tier

[spring temple]

to fit more skills

it's literally a tradeoff

[jaunty flame]

i dont think its worth the tradeoff

[spring temple]

if it's a bad tradeoff don't make it

ez

[jaunty flame]

well yeah

[drifting cedar]

if the tradeoff is getting grim feast and doubling your es..

[spring temple]

you're talking like "I HAVE to xYZ" and that makes it bad

you don't have to do anything

do it if it's good

do something else if it's bad

[jaunty flame]

you kind of have to take grim feast

[drifting cedar]

nahhh

[jaunty flame]

or you randomly get 1 shot by a shrine in t15 maps

[still rock]

you should be able to climb into your unset ring and hide when the extra crit move speed attack speed extra chaos damage white mob runs at you

[spring temple]

damn it's crazy all the stuff i have to do that i haven't been doing

[jaunty flame]

you don't have to

but not doing it is pain

[drifting cedar]

turtle charm warbringer node should give him an actual turtle shell

[jaunty flame]

its like pulling out a splinter

sure i dont have to

but its painful as fuck not to

[still rock]

id prob buy a turtle shell to go with the jade armor set

one of the totem minions is a turtle

[static plinth]

The main thing i dont like about Witchhunter is Decimating being stealable with nothing but a glove swap

[still rock]

hes my favorite

[jaunty flame]

oh yes that too

[spring temple]

i think a lot of ascendancies have a single item that replaces a point

pretty common ain't it

[static plinth]

No?

[drifting cedar]

yeah but glove is a really valuable slot

[static plinth]

Thats why you just put it on, hit a boss, then swap off

[jaunty flame]

i just think that currently witch hunter is staying alive because of shockburst rounds

[drifting cedar]

oh god

[jaunty flame]

once thats gone theres no reason to play it

[drifting cedar]

decimating glove support block bots

[jaunty flame]

this is like that one intimidate shield tech i saw

wait

i will actually do that

[drifting cedar]

that sounds awful

[static plinth]

The one that intimidates permanently on block? lmao

Finally some good builds

[drifting cedar]

the shield thing fine

[still rock]

sounds like playing runescape

[drifting cedar]

just offhand and shieldwall one boss move

[midnight seal]

Can somebody tell me whats the point when playing lightning sorceress with sparkle build? When i try it i have so less damage... nearly unplayable... is there a specific key feature i am missing?

[jaunty flame]

archmage

[still rock]

mana stacking and archmage

[drifting cedar]

i think people who havent played with shields who try to do the intimdate tech will realise how many boss attacks will just kill you if you try to shield wall them

[midnight bolt]

no nerfs this week pogg, only bugfixing

all the abusers survived for now...

[static plinth]

We got like 5 days left this week dont hold your breath

[jaunty flame]

please

save crossbow

[drifting cedar]

how many stacks does this go up to?

[static plinth]

10

[midnight bolt]

10

[drifting cedar]

am I blind or is that not in the skill description

[jaunty flame]

i believe they will kill shock

like the debuff

[midnight seal]

But Archmage is very late and friends always told me that sparkle build is nice from the beginning... dont see it

[jaunty flame]

and kill witch hunter with it

[drifting cedar]

larksa you are just a doomer dude

[jaunty flame]

what stage of progression are you at

[jaunty flame]

yes i am

[drifting cedar]

oooh in the jade part. thanks

[jaunty flame]

I've carried so many friends making stormweavers, gemlings and infernalists through sehekma

and they're like "wow, maybe witch hunter isn't as bad as it is"

[static plinth]

Never press the freeze button in your life but 10% pdr is pretty nice

[midnight seal]

lvl 32

[jaunty flame]

and im like

[drifting cedar]

you could always try other builds

its a big game, rerolling is part of it

[still rock]

okay time to path my flash grenade warbringer

[jaunty flame]

(its because i have juiced as fuck relics)

[drifting cedar]

now we're talking

armor break + turtle?

[still rock]

oh wait it has a cooldown

[pastel girder]

what do i do to make my warrior work, i went and balled am kinda stuck at count geonor lol

[drifting cedar]

oh wait crossbow

[static plinth]

Is the flash grenade supposed to be like. Damage?

[jaunty flame]

I am trying new builds right now but i can't figure out what to put on it

i was theorycrafting a spark archmage build to use decimating + boom to clear maps with significantly less investment

[drifting cedar]

you can make it trash clear pretty easily with armor break since it stuns like mad

[still rock]

ugh i have to get cdr then

[static plinth]

Oh actually, hear me out

[drifting cedar]

you can get +1 cd on grenades on tree and some cdr

[jaunty flame]

but i couldn't actually path to the good shock nodes without significant investment

[drifting cedar]

its cd is short

[static plinth]

Flash Grenade Bleeding Concoction

[drifting cedar]

havent done a concoction yet

do you need to be using a specific weapon / unarmed?

[jaunty flame]

I have 2 god roll ventors waiting for me to make a new build

[static plinth]

Nah

[still rock]

bleed is so awful but atleast youd be able to aggravate it easily

[static plinth]

You can throw it no matter what

[jaunty flame]

but pathing to the good nodes from mercenary

is abit tough

[drifting cedar]

be bleed build, see rare with energy shield aura, die because you can't apply your ailment

[jaunty flame]

real

[static plinth]

i do not see it

[jaunty flame]

boss spawns with extra energy shield

[still rock]

they probably should add something tto allow bleeds through es tbh

[static plinth]

I wonder if you can make concoctions main damage. Probably Shattering or Fulminating would be best for that right

[jaunty flame]

has anyone actually made a chaos damage build yet

[static plinth]

Then its just BiS though

[drifting cedar]

or just remove that whole thing? who ever asked for ES to give bleed immunity

[static plinth]

Wdym

[jaunty flame]

wait does anyone have a juiced glimpse of chaos hat

that they wear with chaos innoculation

[static plinth]

Im running chaos DoT, juice has done Chaos DoT

[jaunty flame]

i was thinking of getting one

[static plinth]

Ive seen a decent amount of Hexblasters

And poison is super popular

[jaunty flame]

it is?

[still rock]

yeah ES characters also being bleed immune just makes it even stronger lol

[drifting cedar]

poison concoction is supposedly very strong

[jaunty flame]

i think i've only seen stormweavers

[static plinth]

Just vaal off the bad modifier

[still rock]

poison in general is strong

[static plinth]

Glimpse of Chaos can just have modifiers entirely deleted by vaal orbs

[still rock]

because it deals the same amt of magnitude as other ailments but stacks 8 times

[jaunty flame]

i don't even know whats the theoretical "god" roll on glimpse of chaos

[static plinth]

Vaal off all the bad modifiers, 1.22x all the good modifiers, get like 5 good enchants

[still rock]

bleed being 15% actually

[drifting cedar]

thats it im buying the crab suit mtx and making a poison concoction build

what do people do for concoction, widowhail + big quiver?

[still rock]

ye

[static plinth]

Yeah

[still rock]

quiver jewels

poison stuff

+1 poison sources on tree

[drifting cedar]

+1 poison gloves i reckon

[still rock]

i dont even know if you need to scale magnitude

[drifting cedar]

isnt magnitude just dot multi

why wouldnt ou

[upbeat ivy]

Is anyone here familiar with demon form witch builds?

[jaunty flame]

oh right

[static plinth]

How's the shotgun on concoction skills

[jaunty flame]

are any of the sekhema's resolve rings good?

[static plinth]

+60% res ring that also holds a jewel

Pretty good even with bad jewels

[still rock]

i mean optimally yes i think you get double magnitude emeralds but those probably cost a liver

or a kidney

[jaunty flame]

maybe i should've gotten that over my ventors

[still rock]

do you know if ingenuity affects the jewel mods

[drifting cedar]

it should

[jaunty flame]

rolled this today

[drifting cedar]

should be just like darkness enthroned rules

[static plinth]

Im considering getting one, +2 max res and +60% res ring is awesome

[jaunty flame]

i'm itching for an excuse to use it

[astral willow]

v nice

[drifting cedar]

well actually idk if thats true. darkness might be different

i assumed it did

[static plinth]

Darkness just affects the jewels inside itself

[upbeat ivy]

Is anyone here familiar with demon form witch builds for mapping?

[static plinth]

Ingenuity copies your ring

Or well

[jaunty flame]

also

[static plinth]

Increases the effect of your ring

[jaunty flame]

why does zarokh never drop the last flame incense relic

[static plinth]

Ig it just needs to be tested

[static plinth]

rare

[still rock]

i mean abyss jewels were made specifically to be mods on items so im not sure therre

[jaunty flame]

i swear he only drops the stupid changing seasons relic

[static plinth]

They're not equal drop rates

[jaunty flame]

great

[still rock]

theres weight to unique drop tables too

[jaunty flame]

where can i find those?

[still rock]

they dont release them

[jaunty flame]

so where do they get these numbers from the "estimated drop table"

[static plinth]

Kill 1000, count how many of each you get

Or kill however many

[still rock]

yeah its just a guess

[jaunty flame]

hmm

[still rock]

educated guess

[jaunty flame]

i guess

with my 2 ventors with good resists

[still rock]

thats how they do it in runescape too

[static plinth]

I think in 1 we eventually got datamined unique tiers

[jaunty flame]

i could try a skin of the loyal build

[static plinth]

But we dont have drop rates for specific tiers

[jaunty flame]

wait

how does it work anyway

[static plinth]

Skin of the Loyal?

[jaunty flame]

it says it increased

does it mean % or flat number

[static plinth]

Increased %, Global

[jaunty flame]

hmm

with my ventors + ingenuity

i could overcap by 140% on each elemental

with grand spectrums

but is that even worth it

[static plinth]

I wish it was something besides ele ailment threshhold since you can double your chaos res with Acolyte

[still rock]

sekhema ring for lightning would be best here

as well

[jaunty flame]

i was thinking of adding all of it

for massive sorc ward numbers

[atomic halo]

woah whats that

[static plinth]

Skin of the Loyal

[jaunty flame]

skin of the loyal, from xesht

[still rock]

the bad part is that its a body armor

thats where you get most of your flat

[static plinth]

You can at least get a good chunk of flat with a shield