2┃build-planning

[wet mango]

Ah fair

[thorny token]

rapid shot and something else

that i dont remember

[drifting cedar]

oh right yeah

rapid shot stacking buff must be tracked as an external buff for this calculation

[thorny token]

oh detonating arrow

[thorny token]

dont think it nedes to be its just counter

[old shuttle]

not new

[drifting cedar]

yeah neither SHOULD be

especially for detonating arrow, thats pretty egregious

[wet mango]

Lmao

[drifting cedar]

I would have 100% assumed that you could convert detonating arrow to cold or w/e

[wet mango]

I wonder if it's because of gain as, or because it's a conditional (based on stacks)

[still rock]

Oh so detonating arrow gain extra happens outside of other conversion completely?

[wet mango]

It just doesn't count as "skill inherent conversion"

[still rock]

gotcha

[drifting cedar]

but yeah you cant convert it because of that

[orchid acorn]

I have a warrior and wanted it to be like a paladin. Like cast a few buffs and be a tanky shield user like in PoE1 (I could even drop auras and bring minions with me). But here I am afraid builds seem pretty pretty limited. Is there a way to do it?

[still rock]

So skill inherent conversion and skill inherent "gain extra as" are treated differently

[jade saddle]

• stupid idea prob. i wanna build tempest flurry flicker strick. if i use brother ring/howa. does that 1 essentially make howa increase cold damage. and 2 - does it remove shock from tempest fury?

[still rock]

what other skills have gain extra as inherently

[thorny token]

cant think of anything else

its probably the only 2?

[still rock]

but archmage is able to be converted

[thorny token]

i dont think so

[still rock]

i thought people were doing that as cold

[woven vine]

so I bought a staff but I need 11 intelligence before I can use it and my skills is there a Jewel I can but that will give me the boost?

[still rock]

unless i misread

[thorny token]

archmage is just normal added as that happens outside of the skill step

[novel sluice]

can anyone tell me if the passives by themselves grant mana and life leech or do you need a skill that specifically says that the skill provides leech?

[still rock]

which corroborates the same thing for detonating arrow then

[wet mango]

Detonating arrow "looks like" an inherent conversion (gain as), but isnt

Archimage is not an inherent gain as on the skill you use

[thorny token]

yea added and conversion should be the same thing and functioning on indentical logic

[still rock]

refund some attributes to get there

[orchid acorn]

Scepters cant be used like in poe1? Like you know, to hit?

[drifting cedar]

they are not martial weapons, correct

[thorny token]

but also i havent tested deto arrow extensively, im only 100% sure about rapid shot, so deto arrow might need retesting

[orchid acorn]

So I can't be a paladin? Because I have noticed I need scepters to have auras

[woven vine]

I did that but with the refunds I can't use my double tempest bell without 11 more Intell so that Is why I asked about the jewel

[dusk basalt]

hey guys, do you think its worth it to use olrovasara or a normal one handmace with 370 damage?

[drifting cedar]

flails are coming and paladins can definitely thematically use maces, swords, etc

oh you mean auras

[orchid acorn]

I mean yeah, but I cant get spirit with those right?

[drifting cedar]

there are some auras on the passive skill tree

that might do it for you?

[still rock]

it is currently identical though, if they are treating skill gain % extra the same as normal gain % extra, rather than treating it separately than normal skill inherent conversion

[drifting cedar]

it very specifically is not identical

[still rock]

archmage and detonating arrow would be identical in cases

[orchid acorn]

Yeah the precision and speed ones... But I wanted to do something akin to my paladin in poe1... Shield, sword and a few auras to buff my clan while mapping

Is it just not possible here?

[thorny token]

archmage is a buff

[still rock]

it currently is though, im not saying what should or shouldnt be

[thorny token]

detonating arrow should not be a global effect

[atomic halo]

archmage
this is a buff.

[thorny token]

or separate from the skill step

(and neither should rapid shot)

[drifting cedar]

its just an order of operations question and the assumption that Gain as X should follow that same order of operations as regular conversion

as Gain as X does otherwise follow it, except in these two cases

[atomic halo]

2h long conversion discussion

[drifting cedar]

hey bloon idk if you saw but I was wrong before and the wiki is being updated

[upper viper]

Im just sitting here reading everything. trying to understand 😂

[drifting cedar]

you can absolutely convert skill converted damage a 2nd time

[jovial perch]

day 7 of asking, is there a way to proc all the damage heralds without the three dragons unique item

[atomic halo]

ok cool

[thorny token]

hey its better than whatever was going on in #2┃general when ppl were unable to read f.a.q :d

[atomic halo]

its the platonic ideal

[fleet stream]

Does arch mage generated lightning damage build shock by itself?

[thorny token]

it just gives your skills added as lightning so yes

its not some sort of special damage

[fleet stream]

But not electrocute

[still rock]

well you have skill inherent attack conversion and you have skill inherent gain % extra, the former is treated before global conversion and the latter is factored into global conversion simultaneously

[orchid acorn]

Sorry to insists while you guys talk about conversion. But is it impossible to have a shield and mace wielding earrior that buff the party with some auras? Is spirit locked behind INT and sceptres?

[thorny token]

well electorcute needs eiher gem or gloves

[atomic halo]

thats just how lightning damage works by default, yes

[atomic halo]

well you get 100 spirit as base

there's spirit on body, ammy, and on tons of other more obscure sources

[midnight bolt]

u can get 40 dive jewel for 40-60 spirit

[atomic halo]

there's also a shield with like 50 spirit

[orchid acorn]

That allows me a single aura with supports. Havent been able to find heavy tank arnor with spirit. Is there?

[orchid acorn]

I'll look into it

[atomic halo]

cant you wield sceptre + shield

[wet mango]

I believe*, Ppl were using lightning skills with archimage then Cotb, to get both cold and light dmg, so they could freeze and shock

[orchid acorn]

No, I cant bonk with sceptre

[atomic halo]

do you need the mace if you're supposed to be a support & tank

[still rock]

Ah, gotcha

i misread the original idea then

[thorny token]

there arent that many party buffing spirit reservations, your options are pretty much just overwhelming presence or blasphemy, as alchemist boon on warrior is gonna be useless

[orchid acorn]

Since there is no taunt here, I'm guessing I need to do some sort of damage to not die

[thorny token]

and banners i guess

[midnight bolt]

ye im confused what auras they gonna run in the first place

cant buff party much

[atomic halo]

also most "aura" auras are from sceptre implicits

[thorny token]

yea without sceptre its not gonna be super useful

[still rock]

cursebots are more useful supports currently until they release more aura support

[ionic lance]

for demon hexblast players out there, is it worth to restart my character if I took candlemass. I just got to maps and wondering if I should just restart or if I should just play and try to just buy better gear

[orchid acorn]

Isnt there life regen or increased ES?

[old shuttle]

The support build i use is a giga block tank

[drifting cedar]

but you only get one of those. antipaladin with a bunch of curses is very different but yeah

[midnight bolt]

no

[old shuttle]

and a half decent sceptre is nice

[fleet stream]

Templar maar introduce aura buffs...

[static plinth]

Vitality only affects you. Discipline is only from sceptres

[midnight bolt]

only on scepter

[orchid acorn]

Hmm is there no gem version? Like the ones with summon archer, there is also a gem that does that

[old shuttle]

and other than that for helping i just use chrono stuns and any ele shred i can use

[static plinth]

No

[atomic halo]

nope

[orchid acorn]

Oh damn

[static plinth]

Youd want stuff like Guiding Palm for support anyway

Or Fixation of Yix

[orchid acorn]

Sad to hear it. Thanks for the info

[old shuttle]

yea sadly the sceptre buffs like malice discipline etc are sceptre only

fixation is a bit awkward, 3m range is depressing

[orchid acorn]

As a warrior?

[still rock]

i think wand + sceptre cursebot with +spells sounds like ideal support in current state of game

[atomic halo]

the intention is that skills granted by weapons are exclusive to those bases

[old shuttle]

though with woulf head 2x presence is nice

[atomic halo]

any exception is just that, exception to be remedied

[old shuttle]

according to people like empy the 2 go to supports rn are block chrono tank and stormweaver shock bot

shock for 300% inc dmg and 83% block chance to all allies

[copper charm]

What is better?

[old shuttle]

those 2 things alone go crazy

[copper charm]

witch minions build

[still rock]

whats the source of block for allies

[orchid acorn]

I was under the assumption PoE2 would give us a wider range of builds than PoE1 but sound kind of very very limited. I used to have a melee witch necro in 1 lol. Here's me hoping it gets better on full release. Thanks for all the info

[old shuttle]

unique shield gives all alies in presence your block chance

[shrewd kernel]

Does Chaos resistance get increased with elemental modifiers? I'm guessing not

[atomic halo]

only half the classes

[old shuttle]

so you just scale your max block chance to 83 with +3 shield vaal/annoint and +5 neck

[atomic halo]

it'll get better as they actually add the rest of the game

[drifting cedar]

I think they wanted to specifically move away from aura bots being a huge effectiveness multiplier that was also outside of reach for the vast majority of people, and also everyone felt obligated to run as many auras as possible for self buffing even

[atomic halo]

nope

[fleet stream]

I was surprised evasion shields can't roll extra block chance

[copper charm]

?

[atomic halo]

it's a tradeoff

do you need the resistances

obviously right is more damage

[old shuttle]

hover the dotted lines

and stormweaver giving 2 shocks and giga scaling shocks is a huge dmg multi for party

[orchid acorn]

Yeah, never liked aurabots, but the lack of taunts or active heals make them a necessity. I was only expecting to run 2 or 3 auras to buff sirvivability of my clan a bit and me to tank. But guess is not possible

[old shuttle]

i run the chrono block bot and its kinda fun with party

makes them so tanky, i stg every time i leave their 12m presence they just die lmao

[drifting cedar]

why chrono? just so you can timefreeze / aoe slow too?

[old shuttle]

lets you blink around like mini temporalis to pull aggro

lets you rewind any dmg you took, i am literally immortal with 8k es

[orchid acorn]

I really wanted to be a warrior tho, odd that a witch is tankier..m might just re rolled this now bricked character

[still rock]

thats pretty on par for poe support teams, once the damage carry leaves the aura they turn into a paper towel

[drifting cedar]

yeah tanky chrono feels REAL tanky

[old shuttle]

and yeah, chain time stunning is super nice

[drifting cedar]

well, may just have to wait. would not be shocked AT ALL to see a templar with party buffs, nor a duelist

[rancid seal]

i want a mod to add dio sound fx when you stop time

[old shuttle]

yeah chrono's rewind time (yaaaaaaah) is so good with giga ES.

killme in 4 seconds through time stuns and 17k es, DO IT

[orchid acorn]

Yeah I guess I could sacrifice my warrior for a templar

[old shuttle]

oh yeah and i can blink to dodge, TAKE A SWING

[still rock]

yeah i mean theres that (currently unsuable) huge wheel by templar for link skills

[drifting cedar]

ohgodwhyarelinkskillinthegameagain

[orchid acorn]

I hate link skills lol

[old shuttle]

oh god what were link skills again

i may not have been around then, i was just a filthy gc miner

[orchid acorn]

Just put an active single target heal and and AoE heal and I'd be the happiest mf to exist

[old shuttle]

font of health kinda

and there is also a flask heal bot as well using the Alchemists Boon

just basically mash flasks, giving your allies like 500hp/s

if you have enough dex you can use that

its honestly REALLY strong

[orchid acorn]

That sounds awesome. Do they get healed when I use my own flask?

[midnight bolt]

best support is just to delete 2 screens around u right now

[old shuttle]

my friend has an alchemist boon in his offhand 24 skill switch. so his flasks are just strong AF and he just juices up the mana consumer

yea, alch boon is like "allies get % of your flasks benefits"

[orchid acorn]

Yeah, but that itself shows how badly implemented support is in Path of Exile. Certainly nothing to be celebrated

[old shuttle]

so your mana and your life you gain, they also gain some of it

and nah, supports definitely exist right now

big 3, in order, are: Chrono block, Stormweaver 300% shock, kinda flask bot

[orchid acorn]

I'll look into it

[old shuttle]

and i guess IIR silly gloves

[orchid acorn]

Because I definetly dont want a witch as my tank

[old shuttle]

sorcerer technically

but also yea

[orchid acorn]

Right

[midnight bolt]

they exist, but are they useful or needed is a whole other question

[old shuttle]

costs a decent chunk of dex to equip

[old shuttle]

yes. they are preffered in group play over just 6 glass cannons

group play scaling is brutal

[drifting cedar]

just be gemling legionnaire

get all the baby auras on tree, flask nodes

run curses too do it all

[still rock]

generally parties with dedicated supports are made for speed racing teams on hardcore tradeleagues

[old shuttle]

yeah can probs make some weird pseudo hybrid, but block bot is expensive slots and level investment wise)

[upper viper]

Anyone know if archmage calculates into total dps shown in skill. Or is it, its own thing (calculation)

[old shuttle]

toggle it off and on to see no?

[drifting cedar]

if only you could share turtle charm on a block bot

[upper viper]

im dum, yea. good idea XD

[old shuttle]

tf is the turtle charm?

[drifting cedar]

warbringer 'block everything, not just strikes and projectiles' node

[old shuttle]

ooooh yea gotcha

[drifting cedar]

basically block acrobatics

[old shuttle]

i mean hey, a warbringer can grab that node and not use a shield xd

[drifting cedar]

blockrobatics, if you will

[old shuttle]

80% dr ezpz

[drifting cedar]

lol true. dual 2h warbringer

with block

[still rock]

it requires a shield i thought?

[old shuttle]

[orchid acorn]

It'll cost me STR then

[drifting cedar]

in this context you have a block bot giving you block, then you are turtle charming that block

[still rock]

or are we talking about two different nodes

[old shuttle]

mind you, funny bug. Whenever you "block" while channeling without a shield you tpose

[orchid acorn]

In my case is just to make full joint builds with my clann instead of 10 individual ones

[old shuttle]

its very funny, my friends kept thinking they were getting shocked or something, but no, just blocking witha crossbow lmao

[drifting cedar]

you'd actually have a much tankier warbringer than is normally possible, potentially

as turtle charm gives you 40% less block chance, but the shield hard overrides your block chance

might not apply the 40% less

[old shuttle]

mind you pulling aggro is also pretty great if you can just manage that

[still rock]

yeah that too, but i was just referencing the use-case for Misha since there is an optimal case for supports existing outside of voluntarily having fun with friends

[old shuttle]

the Chaos Trial boss was super easy when i basically baited all the attacks into a wall

[drifting cedar]

how does aggro even work here

[orchid acorn]

True

[old shuttle]

tentatively

[drifting cedar]

do mobs just attack the closest enemy assuming all choices are players?

[orchid acorn]

First one first serve

[old shuttle]

it kinda just targets for a while then it feels like sometimes it gets bored

if youve ever done Hockey Stick Ghost in Chaos Trial group play youd know

its just kinda nonsense

[orchid acorn]

Imagine a skill gem that taunts. You hit your shield and enemies come to you. That'd awesome

[still rock]

hockey stick ghost 😭

[wet mango]

(hmm, I didn't get a dm?)

[old shuttle]

hey its descriptive

and yeah a big ass taunt that pulls enemies from far away would be lovely NGL

looking at YOU 35+% of maps with nooks

[orchid acorn]

More often than not I raise my shield and enemies attack the dps lmao

[tiny girder]

hello guys i have a wierd question , now i am having fun with stormweaver and LA deadeye and having hard time to choose which one to focus getting gear on cuz i have low currency

[old shuttle]

if you just front run i feel likei pull aggro most of the time

[tiny girder]

can someone suggest anything about that

[old shuttle]

if you want you can spam 7 trial chaos' and get about 10 ex+ per run easily

potential azcapa highroll for 300 ex

[orchid acorn]

My game lags to a point where enemies dont render in chaos trial so I cant finish last ascendancy lol

Because I have to fight invisible enemies

[old shuttle]

oof

chaos trials is such solid consistent profit in groups.

[still rock]

have you tried switching renderers

to vulcan specifically

[old shuttle]

getting 3 soul cores each is low key bonkers

[midnight bolt]

i was just testing bonestorm and seems like cast applies SEVERAL stacks of debuff, do i understand it right that each debuff will add all amout of flat dmg to the next attack?

[orchid acorn]

Yes, my PC is just trash... Mixed with the poor optimization of the engine is a disaster

[still rock]

does everyone get the same one

[old shuttle]

i think each attack removes 1 stack for 1 dmg increase?

[orchid acorn]

I am surprised poe2 uses the same engine as poe1. Its been over 10 years

[old shuttle]

You do not all get the same soul core from Chaos Trials (just typing it out for the Ctrl + F giga chads)

[midnight bolt]

yes i was more curious if each stack will give full amount of increase or the full amount is spread among all stacks

[still rock]

its always been bad, tbh. you need a super cpu to run the game very smoothly theres just too many computations going on at once

[thorny token]

yea just retested deton arrow and 100% not converting the fire as well @drifting cedar @wet mango

[orchid acorn]

True

[old shuttle]

not sure, ive seen silly hehe haha one shots with that skill up so im not sure

[quartz sun]

I feel like I'm about where I should be for around my level. Is this solid damage for a level 70 cold gas arrow deadeye? Totally new to this but I think I'm on the right track.

[drifting cedar]

yay inconsistencies!

[thorny token]

0 freeze buildup ever with blueflames, then added cold infusion and got freeze buildup

[signal jewel]

I'm running HotG Chrono. Running Fist of War on hammer so it gives a 6 sec cooldown. It doesn't seem that it EVER hits the 33% chance to not go on cooldown and time snap doesn't resets the cooldown. Can the +6 sec cooldown not be bypassed or am I missing something?

[still rock]

the games not graphics intensive at all, especially with the implementation of GI it runs great when theres not 7000 things on the screen going on but thats just par the course for a game like this

[quartz sun]

I freeze just about everything around me with blue flames

[thorny token]

ok now ry that with detonating arrow

[old shuttle]

times rewind say skills with a base cooldown maybe?

[thorny token]

because that is what we were talking about

[quartz sun]

Ah, didn't see the detonating arrow part

[tribal moss]

Skill Speed vs Attack Speed, is there a big difference?

im playing invoker

[signal jewel]

All it says is "33% chance to not consume a cooldown when used" and "resets cooldown of other skills"

[wet mango]

Thanks for the data!

[old shuttle]

hmm no idea then

[radiant lake]

Can anyone help me understand how to make my class monk stronger better freeze and shock ⚡️ I wanna melt enemy in act 2,3 ?? What do I need to know and what should I look for ?? What should my skill tree look like Struggle first time on this type of game

[wet mango]

Skill speed also affects spells warcries, etc. but for attacks, it's the same.

Think "ele dmg" vs "dmg" modifiers

Same concept

[old shuttle]

works for me

[tribal moss]

so as a monk with a staff its almost the same right?

[old shuttle]

try unequip re equip the cooldown jewel maybe?

[sage matrix]

Hi, does anyone have a proven build for Monk under storm wave or ice strike? I do it myself by eye but it's not very good

[wet mango]

If you are using attacks, yes

[tribal moss]

yeah skill attacks but its always a attack

[wet mango]

Skill attacks?

Didn't quite get that

[thorny token]

that animation looks so dumb ngl at least could've made it whole clock :d

[olive compass]

Guys what the hell does this actually do? It only appears to be a downside. It increases my str requirement for my body armour?

[tribal moss]

forget it, its what you have said

[old shuttle]

it means the STR req on the gear is now also an upside

giving more armor

[wet mango]

It takes the str req and adds that to armour

[olive compass]

Oh now that you said i just reinterpreted. Thanks!

[old shuttle]

yeah classic too much reading brain break

[hardy haven]

What are the good ways to generate power charges that are class agnostic?

Some funky uniques maybe?

[still rock]

combat frenzy + resonance, or volls

[old shuttle]

theres a unique that gives you power charges on hit

[hardy haven]

Whats the profane ritual tech, isnt that supposed to be something

[tribal moss]

@radiant lake @sage matrix

im also newish to the genre but here is my Skilltree, i also looked at some videos and guides. Im playing Lightning Monk Invoker

May have a look at:
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/coc-balls-invoker-ronarray
and
https://youtu.be/wS0r3JwZdw0?si=R-UqpYDAcPwmNGTK

These are different builds but after looking at both and the passives of the skills you will get a feeling of whats good and whats not

[old shuttle]

you click a corpse, you get a power charge, pretty low int req. really solid

[still rock]

its good for charge gen but requires corpses so useless in bossing

[hardy haven]

Isnt there some support that allows you to use minions instead of corpses?

[old shuttle]

ye

sacrifice

[still rock]

rage gaming video 😭

wheres lily

[drifting cedar]

man the clickbait for poe builds on youtube is real

[still rock]

its like 60 spirit and they have to be dead and in the reviving state to do it

[hardy haven]

Which one is that?

Oh right, actually sacrifice

[old shuttle]

COMBAT FRENZY

Buff

[old shuttle]

nah they can just be alive

[still rock]

https://youtu.be/OES5-ouWg8w?si=eIzCoVAqLjXxo9ZK

(tldw lily called out these guys and they got all butthurt)

[drifting cedar]

is her video title tongue in cheek

[urban osprey]

Why can't I assign a point here?

[still rock]

yes lol

[drifting cedar]

i havent really consumed any poe youtube content

oh good

[still rock]

i think shes funny so i watch it on second monitor at times when im zooming

[still rock]

weapon set points most likely

[thin basin]

Mo

No

[still rock]

oh fr?

[thin basin]

Its a witch

[wet mango]

Are you a witch?

[thin basin]

Trying to spec monk points

[still rock]

oh lol

yeah you cant do that

[urban osprey]

Gf is a witch, myself I'm a mercenary. Almost lvl 20, got skill points to spare, didn't use any weapon set skill points.

[old shuttle]

a good build rn is just the decompose boots and stacking HP on brutes and farting everywhere

[urban osprey]

Doesn't work for either of us.

[still rock]

wait so DD works on brutes that are alive?

tf

[old shuttle]

👍

[hardy haven]

ye

[old shuttle]

very stupidly strong

[thin basin]

Your tree isnt connected to there

Thats the monk starting area

[old shuttle]

its okay, "blood mage is good, just use DD" xdd more like it

[hardy haven]

Can hit for a couple of millions with dd/brute

[thin basin]

Be a monk if you want to start at that location

[urban osprey]

Wait so each branch is a starter for a different class?

[still rock]

so the conditional is that the minion has to be able to revive, not just actually in the reviving state

got it

[old shuttle]

this is to avoid SRS being a Sacrifice target

[still rock]

yeah or unearth

[old shuttle]

ye though you can unearth your own skeletons kek

[hardy haven]

Trying to make zombies work

[thin basin]

Each class start at a different area on the tree, some are shared

[hardy haven]

But that is some jank having to ritual and then ressurect zombies

[still rock]

can you automate the skill that summons them

like CoC or somn

[urban osprey]

Got it, thanks!

[pine hound]

hey guys, can a mob get electrocute and shock at the same time? from different sources

[old shuttle]

they just summon

its automated already i think

oh you mean the stuff like unearth my b

i mean there is cast on minion death

[hardy haven]

Maybe volls protector, blood mage and a high crit skill idno

[old shuttle]

for some reason i doubt thats good enough

[still rock]

i meant zombies but i see it isnt a spell

now that i look at it

but would work for unearth ig

unless CoC just works with zombies for some reason aside from it not being a "Spell"

[old shuttle]

the decompose boots that do 50% of corpse hp triggering each step is a pretty nutty build rn

especially with 10x poison. meaning 5x corpse hp as the starting point for the initial poison

https://youtu.be/iI8G07xoeg4?si=CndqEKEw0aB0j8eF&t=156

[upper viper]

What support gems are people using with their archmage 😄 ?

[old oriole]

can i somehow clear very big areas fast with lightning rod+Magnetic Salvo, in maps i mean

[still rock]

BM CoC Unearth on skellies would be cool idea

has anyone done dis

[signal jewel]

If a jewel like a diamond says "limited to 1" is it only for that jewel or for that type of jewel like only 1 diamond allowed on the tree?

[still rock]

It refers to the unique of the same name generally

[muted birch]

Can Someone ahow me what a Drop chnace/waystone sustain atlas looks like?

[still rock]

take all tier ups and waystone quant then rare monster stuff

[signal jewel]

Ok. To clarify, I could run Megalomaniac and Controlled Meta, in theory.

[muted birch]

What about the qaystone affixes stuff?

[old shuttle]

early its waystone focus

[pure pike]

if i have "+% increased armor and evasion" on a chestpiece, does that only apply to the body armor? or does the increase apply to ALL my gear?

[old shuttle]

later on its tower focus

[still rock]

where are u in map progression

[old shuttle]

if it doesnt say maximum typically it just means the gear its on

[muted birch]

Un on on the t14s quest

[still rock]

then you shouldnt really need many tier ups anymore

just focus on doing boss nodes with your highest tier

[old shuttle]

yeah later on you just slam t15/16 maps on bosses

and get like 5+ t15s in return

[muted birch]

They get deleted anyways

[still rock]

?

[muted birch]

The bosses just immediately die

[still rock]

ok

how is that relevant to map sustain

[muted birch]

I misread

[drifting cedar]

if a skill uses a fake "hit" damage for ailments like flame wall, is that ailment damage negatively affected by support gems which reduce hit damage?

[muted birch]

Should my e d tree look like thjs?

[still rock]

i don't think so because it doesn't ever hit anyways its just the base value for magnitude calculation

[still rock]

probably not

hold on ill draw one

[hollow hedge]

'Does this look infected to you?' Kinda energy

[slender bone]

Are the extra Power Charges nodes worth it for Power Staff for an Ice Strike Invoker Monk ?
It sounds like more Power Charges consumed by Power Staff should increase the damage more, but it doesn't really looks like it. The DPS shown by Ice Strike doesn't change when Power Staff is active.

[still rock]

@muted birch nvm maxroll sucks on mobile

ill send u one later ig

[old shuttle]

mine looks like this iirc

with +1 floating for wqhatever

the notable ones are hugely impactful later on

this is what i use for breaching

[hoary ingot]

what are the best arsonist gems?

[thin basin]

2nd one, dropped as 75% corr to 82

kek

[old shuttle]

dibs

[still rock]

yeah same

@muted birch use that one

[old shuttle]

c:

twins is too rippy for too little

[muted birch]

Alr just wanna maximize my drops bc im stacking rarity. Ty both

[old shuttle]

• line of text on rares is a must. And more modifier multi per line is also a must

[still rock]

caveat on unspeccing deadly evolution for doing citadels cause sometimes you get fucky mods on the boss

[old shuttle]

maybe the +1 corrupt may be good as well

[old shuttle]

Energy shield Act 2 boss. MAN that was long

[still rock]

but thats moreso because id rather not lose out on a free 80+ ex or make the fight 10 minutes

[old shuttle]

energy shield on phase enemies ;-;

[still rock]

a lot of the mods suck really bad on certain bosses

but citadels take so long to get there that i just unspec deadly evo for them

[old shuttle]

Mana donut on ACT 2 Skeleton Titan boss in a pit

c:

just get inside the donut smile

the funny thing was it didnt have that at first, got to half hp then gained it. then instantly died to it, was SO confused, still am

[median valve]

am i tripping or is there a node on passive tree that gives 1(i think) ES per 12 evasion on body armor? cant find it

[thin basin]

what ar ethe chances that someone would trade a temporalis w me for the belt

[old shuttle]

i think thats a monk thing?

[old shuttle]

id wait til patch for if something happens to temporalis

[teal badger]

yea right side center?

[nimble wind]

Just some basic character concepts

[old shuttle]

i just wanna do a vacuum whirlwind build if they readd invert KB gloves

[still rock]

spectral ward

[jaunty reef]

can you use a scepter and a focus together?

[still rock]

yes

[vale bough]

seen a clip today of flicker strike build, is it possible for me as a chronomancer to run a flicker strike build? (new to poe as a whole so maybe dumb question)

[still rock]

sure why not

you can do anything as anything, though it may not be optimal

[crude badger]

BM vs Infernalist - What would you go for?

[old shuttle]

not bm

:c

[near patrol]

I'm new to the game and been playing titan warrior since the beginning, wanna create a new character could do maps easily and don't get nerfed in the future, any suggestion?
i was thinking about "Deadeye" or "Invoker", but not certain about it

[still rock]

invoker seems to he the most straightforward gameplay in the game rn

[old shuttle]

if you have any currency stacked up you should be able to blast any character you want

[still rock]

especially for new players since the right side of the tree is just really good in general rn

[jaunty reef]

bm is a pain in the arse since you gotta specifically build with its life drain in mind

[old shuttle]

big 3 stay aways are simply Chronomancer - Blood mage and Chayula monk

[jaunty flame]

Deadeye can die randomly to on death effects

[old shuttle]

not that they are necessarily bad, but they require a lot more effort put into them

[jaunty flame]

If you have money, play gemling

[near patrol]

not really, i have like 6 divs and 120 exalts

[jaunty reef]

chayula is actually bad, you can still do well with it but invoker is just so much better its not even funny

[jaunty flame]

The cheapest upgrades i see nowadays is

Any non isolation distilled augment

1 stat time lost diamonds

And random rare jewels

[near patrol]

trying to find something that is cheap at late game

[drifting cedar]

nothing that stacks stats then

[jaunty flame]

The most expensive relevant thing is

[old shuttle]

i mean like 30 ex is enough to blast through campaigns and get any build started

[jaunty flame]

Astramentis

Lmao

That and temporalis

[jaunty reef]

there's a build i wanna do thats so goofy but god is it expensive

[jaunty flame]

My current build is 100 div in with ingenuity, ventors and doryani

Its not too hard to play currency, im playing a bottom 4 class

Witch hunter sucks ass btw

[drifting cedar]

are ventors doryanis expensive or is doryanis too niche?

[jaunty reef]

the build i wanna do would probably be like at least 500 div

[jaunty flame]

Dont play witch hunter

[near patrol]

i don't have problem making money, have some trading tricks to do, but i can't make like 10-12 divs, so i need something cheap

[jaunty flame]

I bought mine by sniping people

[old shuttle]

yeah i wanna do a doryania ventors behead build

[jaunty reef]

witch hunter sucks since you can get both devastating strike and culling on items

[jaunty flame]

Normally theyre 20 divs a pop and if you want rarity, 100+

[drifting cedar]

people who just didnt know negative light res was valuable you mean?

gotcha

[jaunty flame]

No

They know

They were swapping off

[drifting cedar]

ahh

[jaunty flame]

I sniped them quickselling the ventors

[idle sundial]

Does anyone know levels for basic attack gems links?

[jaunty flame]

So i could get my build online way faster

[near patrol]

by leveling your character i guess

[near patrol]

any suggestion on my new character?

[jaunty flame]

Play any of the top 3

[idle sundial]

Yeah but what are the level breakpoints 4 link is at 40 5 link ??? 6 link is 90

[jaunty flame]

Stormweaver, infernalist or

Fuck i forgot the other one

Invoker?

[near patrol]

4 link is at 78 i think

[near patrol]

stormweaver, invoker and?

[jaunty flame]

Infernalist

Or deadeye

[drifting cedar]

the top 2 are really in a league beyond the others

[idle sundial]

5 link is including main skill sorry speaking like POE1 so it got 4 supports is at 78

[jaunty flame]

My friend is playing infernalist

Im playing witch hunter

He has 2x less my investment

[near patrol]

yep, you get 4 support link at 78

[jaunty flame]

And 5x more viable builds than me

[drifting cedar]

what sort of witch hunter

[viscid niche]

Any tips for cast on dodge on deadeye when using blink? Voltaic mark maybe?

[drifting cedar]

thats kind of the nature of spells unfortunately

[jaunty flame]

HoA stacking

[idle sundial]

right thanks now I know all breakpoints for support link for levels

[drifting cedar]

herald of agony?

[jaunty flame]

Like ive sunk 120 divs in total in my build

[jaunty flame]

Hand of action

[drifting cedar]

hand of WISDOM and action

howa

[jaunty flame]

Ph

My bad

[near patrol]

so for the final decision, infernalist or invoker?

[jaunty flame]

Anyway ive got everything

But astramentis

[jaunty flame]

If you like minions you go infernalist

[drifting cedar]

ive not seen that build done on witch hunter admittedly. gemling just seems better for it

[near patrol]

i like easy grinding

[jaunty flame]

Stormweaver

[jaunty flame]

I genuinely believe that witch hunter was made as a joke

Sorcery ward is hilariously bad

[drifting cedar]

my 2nd build was a witch hunter and I thought it was fine lol

[jaunty flame]

Culling and decimating strike exists on items

[drifting cedar]

i did concentration + explodey

no cull /decimate /ward

[jaunty flame]

The explodey is 10%

It might as well not exist if you arent doing breach

[drifting cedar]

10% for 100% though

[jaunty flame]

I already 1 tap everything with galvanic

Thats the thing

[drifting cedar]

yeah my build wasnt a 120 div howa astramentis build

just found garbage

[jaunty flame]

Its really good on low budget

[drifting cedar]

so the explodey helped

[jaunty flame]

But the ceiling is really fucking lowb

[drifting cedar]

yeah that tracks

i was also using the electrocute gloves

[jaunty flame]

I dont have astramentis the price of that thing is like 200 divs +

[lavish hedge]

How does each arrow that gets fired in addition affect the dps?

[drifting cedar]

well thats pretty silly

[jaunty flame]

Witch hunter is really good on a budget

But his ceiling is also ass

[old aurora]

what ways are there to give shock to incinerate, will conductivity work?

or lightning damage period really

[drifting cedar]

you need a way to convert to lightning or give fire the ability to shock

[jaunty flame]

Anything witch hunter can do deadeye does better

Its tragic

[old aurora]

incinerate seems kind of special in how it works

so its more difficult to figure out if something functions

[jaunty flame]

Please buff sorcery ward

[wet mango]

it doesn't

[jaunty flame]

Make it have innate elemental resist or something

[wet mango]

the listed dps is per proj

[drifting cedar]

oh wait, doesn't incinerate not hit in this game?

I don't think you can make incinerate shock

you need to hit to shock

[midnight geode]

does ghost dance not gain anything from qual? Cuz its not showing me anything when i press alt

[modern orbit]

anyone got a link to chrono minion build? about to craft my own but wouldnt mind seeing what others have come up

[drifting cedar]

i doubt many people are doing chrono minions

not to say you can't, of course

[modern orbit]

nope not many but there are a few

[drifting cedar]

I can kind of see the appeal as chrono is very forgiving tank-wise and not many ascendancies offer much for minions

[wet mango]

conductivity gives "more chance to shock", which won't do anything if your chance was 0

[old aurora]

i have the three dragons helm but not sure if its working with incinerate

its just damn difficult to tell

[drifting cedar]

it isn't because incinerate doesn't hit

you need to actual deal hits

[old aurora]

ok

[drifting cedar]

now, you could do cast on ignite + some big fire spell and use 3 dragons

[old aurora]

is there anything else that can make incinerate do lightning on its own gem wise?

or add in some lightning

[drifting cedar]

no, its a pure dot skill

theres nothing you can convert or add unfortunately

[wet mango]

I thought there was somthing weird about that, or maybe i mis reemmber. But there was something unintuitive with the "ignite as though dealing X fire dmg"

[old aurora]

darn

[wet mango]

that it could be converted or it did something weird

[old aurora]

ive been trying really hard to find anyway to make incinerate usable

and so far im finding nothing

[drifting cedar]

if it can be converted ill be shocked, more shocked than this guys incinerate is currently capable of

[wet mango]

at the very least, gas arrow does benefit from "gain as extra chaos dmg" for example

[old aurora]

: (

[wet mango]

for a larger poison

[drifting cedar]

oh well..if that works then maybe it does

[wet mango]

so there's at least something nonobvious there

https://youtu.be/j3Riac8Y7RQ?si=4d6QHlA128uhQYbi

[old aurora]

it still lives me with the challenge of how to get my incinerate to do it

hell id settle for being able to make incinerate do damage that didnt suck

a challenge in and of itself

[drifting cedar]

cast on ignite + firestorm with shock supports wearing three dragons maybe

firestorm eats ignites to empower itself but that wont matter as you constantly reapply

doesnt make incinerate do it, but at least there's some synergy there

[old aurora]

Thats something

is incinerate any good?

[drifting cedar]

oh, no idea

[old aurora]

im sorry firestorm

doesnt it say only one can be active at a time?

[drifting cedar]

yeah but this is mostly a concern for big tanky targets right

also idk if firestorm is good, but i think empowered firestorm projectile is the highest base damage fire spell that neither channels nor relies on a corpse

and the empowering bit is taken care of by incinerate, so I floated it as an option

[old aurora]

what kind of shock support would I add in to the firestorm on ignite

its something man deeply appreciate it

[thin basin]

I think tradesite is bugged

[drifting cedar]

conduction would be the big one

[old aurora]

ok

[drifting cedar]

lasting shock, i guess, maybe

could try overcharge

you'd have to toy with it to juggle duration, chance, and magnitude essentially

[old aurora]

what does magnitude of ignite actually do?

more of a chance to apply?

[drifting cedar]

no

ignite magnitude is damage

shock magnitude is debuff strength

[old aurora]

is it important for increasing incinerate dmg?

[drifting cedar]

I would imagine so

[old aurora]

hmm

ive been using %fire dmg

[drifting cedar]

you should do both

[old aurora]

ok

[drifting cedar]

magnitude essentially acts as one big more damage multiplier for damaging ailments

so all your magnitude gets added together and then multiplies the ailment damage at the end, while having no effect on the hit

[jagged fog]

Using this build right now, it's pretty strong so far (Map lvl 10). Question about pinning. If you have the Bushwack Boots that make it so physical damage is pinning, do you still need a "Pin and Run" node that helps build up 30% Pin build up?

[old aurora]

I did not know that

[thorny token]

you def want pin buildup for pin just like you want freeze buildup for freeze etc

[thin basin]

U boys think theyll remove all the duped temporalist before i buy one or what

[wet mango]

well that would give you more pinning, pinning is like freeze and electrocute, the're s abuild up

[still rock]

its not bad with conc effect

[thorny token]

but idk why would you run bushwack on gas arrow unless you are using bursting plague as well, and even then its not worth the boot slot unless you need to generate frenzies

[jagged fog]

Is there any place to check how effective my PIN is vs the difficulty of the map I am on or anything? Feels like I am pinning everything with my first volley without issues atm

[still rock]

otherwise the area is too big

[thorny token]

as the pseudo hit do not works for pin or anything else like that

[jagged fog]

I need to generate frenzy, it's easier to generate frenzy via any physical damage vs having to rain arrow or do something else to get it going

[quartz cairn]

Is Molten Blast Titan fairly easy to get going in poe2? I started levelling with Ziz's totem build but I'm not loving it and I'm considered changing over.

[thorny token]

so unrelated to the gas arrow vid you replied to then

[mystic osprey]

if I load a crossbow ammunition, does the passives of the basic "crossbow shot" affect it?

[tidal copper]

If:
Spell A does 100 fire DMG
and i crit meaning it does 200 fire DMG now
And i have 100 damage as extra chaos damage
do i get 200 chaos dmg or 100 chaos

[drifting cedar]

no

[thorny token]

but yea for spiral volley and snipe you still want the pin nodes, and the movespeed pin node is very strong in general anyway

as movespeed is otherwise pertty rare so even if you were pinning already reliably you would want it

[thorny token]

200, the chaos part is still crit

[wet mango]

it's misnamed, it should just be named "basic bolt"

[tidal copper]

Scaling crit is very interesting i can use any spell in the book all of it becomes chaos

[wet mango]

crit comes at the very end

[drifting cedar]

can you explain that?

[thorny token]

you are just overthinking it, stuff gets converted and you apply your other stuff after

and thats it

[still rock]

you do stuff

press button get orb

[jagged fog]

Ya, not directly related. I quoted it to just vouch for it since I had a similar build to that video (Gas Arrow), but recently changed to Scatter because it was working a lot better for me. For reference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhFuXvLTf1A&ab_channel=sprEEEzy)

[tidal copper]

100% damage as extra chaos if you use only that as your damage
the spell you use dont matter as chaos wont affect it
and scaling the base spell doesnt increase the chaos damage
as far as im aware

[jagged fog]

@thorny token - anyway, I appreciate the response 🙌

[drifting cedar]

well...scaling the base spell with things like spell damage, projectile damage, area damage will still affect the added chaos damage

crit has no special interaction here

[lost obsidian]

Hey, is there any ice strike monk gods that could help me pick between 2 body armours? idk which one is better untill I get the currency to buy a good one

[still rock]

just post em

[tidal copper]

sure, same result as crit it will increase both
you could make two trees one for projectile damage and one for AOE to use different spells sounds funny

[lost obsidian]

Oh, Idk how the rules work around here

[still rock]

probably the right one

[lost obsidian]

been using the full evasion one for a while now but the energy shield one would almost double my energy shield

[thorny token]

always use hybrid chest

[still rock]

without seeing your tree or anything else ES is just too op rn

and it has life on it

[lost obsidian]

my life is 1, since I got the immunity to chaos passive

[still rock]

oh boy

[thorny token]

even if you were life setup no life roll would be better

as the life mods are useess

[dark saddle]

tempest flurry or ice strike?

[drifting cedar]

a sad state of affairs for build diversity

[thorny token]

flurry better

[still rock]

just be on the north or east side of the tree, ez

[lost obsidian]

Aight Im gonna try the hybrid for a while and probably try to chaos the old one

Thanks for the help fellas

[drifting cedar]

ngl looked real hard at annointing melding on my blood magic warrior

[dark saddle]

why? Im hearing tempest flurry has more dps but ice strike has a faster clear

[thorny token]

tempest flurry can clear as well if not better

[dark saddle]

it does slow u down tho which is kinda meh

[half bridge]

For gemling mains, how do you move so fast with tempest, is it cause the attack time is very low?

[thorny token]

you can still do hoi on flurry, and it has +4 strike range qual and at least +4 strike range on every attack

[still rock]

atziris disdain and melding is probably more ehp than all of your life scaling as titan

[drifting cedar]

the best part of this issue is that I was also considering a node literally called SPIRAL INTO DEPRESSION

but melding was better

[thorny token]

i mean that just means you need more attack speed

[dark saddle]

oh

I'll work on that

[thorny token]

like they all do howa anyway

in the end

and that gives you fuckon of it

[dark saddle]

do you know a good CHEAP staff

[still rock]

i bought a shit ton of disdains to vaal so ive been reselling all the good hits and 90% of the people buying them are playing titan

[dark saddle]

like 20 ex max

[still rock]

if that dont tell you somethings wrong with armor

[dark saddle]

maybe 30

[still rock]

then idk what will lol

[drifting cedar]

cloak of flame + disdain is a perfectly natural way to build life + armor :l

[dark saddle]

my current one doesnt have lots of as

[thorny token]

well you are looking for inc as elsewhere mostly

[dark saddle]

on what?

gloves?

[thorny token]

howa as i said but if you are on budget dont worry about it

[still rock]

whys that qstaff vaaled with only one socket 👀

tsk tsk

[dark saddle]

yeah I dont wanna spec into that since people are expecting a nerf

[thorny token]

probably vaaled off 1 socket :d

[dark saddle]

also do I use ice on my staff with tempest?

ice damage

[thorny token]

depends if you want hoi or not

[dark saddle]

I do

[thorny token]

then yes

[dark saddle]

dual herald

alr thx

[thorny token]

bu if you are on budget ice strike might be better for you

[vale pewter]

How do I get concentrated effect on tempest bell and ice bite on glacial cascade? I don’t see them on the menu

[thorny token]

click all gems

[still rock]

wait it can lower sockets?

i havent seen that outcome yet somehow

[thorny token]

hmm not sure actually

i assumed it can

[waxen jewel]

Do heralds benefit from Projectile/Bow damage if the damage source that triggered them is correct?

I'm bit confused by these secondary damage effects in PoE2

[atomic halo]

no

[drifting cedar]

no, heralds do herald damage

[waxen jewel]

Herald of Ice clearly says Attack Damage though yeah

Okay

[atomic halo]

it doesn't suddenly become projectile/bow because of whatever triggered it

[vast folio]

Guys, huge apologies, could I ask for a bit of help here 😦 https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1325562212789522464

[waxen jewel]

So it's some other kind of attack damage with source of it's own

It has no memory of what triggered it, got it

[drifting cedar]

oh i might just be totally wrong about this

[thorny token]

i mean herald is using the bow tho no

bow damage should absolutely work

it wouldnt make sense if it didnt

[drifting cedar]

not uh projectile damage though

[still rock]

they do attack damage i think but not proj

[atomic halo]

wdym the herald is using the bow? is it diff from poe1?

[drifting cedar]

yeah its just "attack damage"

not a flat secondary spell

percentage of your weapon and all

[thorny token]

well in poe1 heralds are secondary damage

in poe2 they are attacks

[waxen jewel]

Yeah the herald of ice at least is different in PoE2

[atomic halo]

oh it takes the damage from your bow, yeah

but modifiers to bow damage like inc. damage with bows shouldnt apply

[drifting cedar]

unsure

[thorny token]

they should

[drifting cedar]

it might just be an attack that uses your bow

thats how its worded

projectile damage should not apply, but area / attack / with X weapon should

[thorny token]

yea if its using weapon its using weapon

[waxen jewel]

Not the biggest deal in the world, either way

[thorny token]

and stuff that doesnt use weapon has separate flat

like totems

[drifting cedar]

that stuff isnt even as set in stone as you would think

[thin basin]

Attack aoe and cold should increase it, takinng from the gem tags

[waxen jewel]

My logic is that Herald of Ice get's it base damage from the weapon (because it's an Attack) so it must care about the weapon type

[drifting cedar]

the ice crystal from frozen locus appears to scale its flat damage with pillar of the caged god strength despite not using your weapon damage, for instance @thorny token

[atomic halo]

also what does the "weapon damage" line on pillar of the caged god even mean

i never understood that

[drifting cedar]

it should really mean "damage with this weapon" so you can't scale stuff like totems and ice crystals that have their own flat

[waxen jewel]

It means it doesn't do anything for unarmed

[drifting cedar]

it works for the totems

[thorny token]

i mean that sounds like a bug not like feature

[drifting cedar]

yeah true

[pearl sluice]

yeah i did exactly that. it's just that if i plan to change how i get to some points without changing them i need to change in a single refund. Otherwise i waste money. But i guess i will just do it separately.

[atomic halo]

so it's just increased damage? the global kind?

[drifting cedar]

with pillar of the caged god attacks yes

[waxen jewel]

The other 2 affixes of Pillar of the Caged God work obviously

[cerulean finch]

does Inspiration support skill lower mana cost every sec inside Mana Tempest (default 1% per sec)?
is it better to use Inspiriation to support Mana Tempest or main attack skill like Spark/Arc?

[dark saddle]

do you know of good cheap staffs other than pillar? maybe just a rare quarterstaff? long staff or wrapped staff or what?

[vale pewter]

Wym

[atomic halo]

at some point, i was under the impression it was local somehow

[drifting cedar]

no its global, would be impossible to scale otherwise

this is why pillar + howa + astramentis is so big

[waxen jewel]

It's global but it requires a weapon. So it doesn't work with unarmed. That's the whole point of the weapon word there

[thorny token]

unarmed is not the only reason for it

[waxen jewel]

Or am I mistaken?

Okay

[drifting cedar]

you are right that it prevents unarmed shenanigans

[thorny token]

rare is fine, idk what is the best staff base check poe2db

[thorny token]

all gems and show recommended gems, either unlick only show recommended or click all gems

if you are on controller you can scroll to dex/int/str supports

[still rock]

i really wish they had a toggle between this window as "recommended supports" and another window with "all possible supports" for each particular skill. im having to cross check with maxroll planner since they have that function lol

[mystic osprey]

I can barely shock with galvanic shards. I slotted 100% increased shock chance and %25 more lightning damage onto it. what else can I do?

[viral crag]

Just curious, you're wanting to have two separate windows next to each other?

[still rock]

a toggle between showing the current screen as "recommended gems" and another window that would replace this one when toggled that shows all possible support gems you can use for that skill specifically

as most players past a certain point would be using the latter

[viral crag]

Oh, you're wanting to switch which one is the default.

[still rock]

im wanting them to implement a new window that is currently not in the game but also have it be the default if toggled

[thorny token]

isnt that what unlicking show recommended gems does?

[viral crag]

Oh... if I'm understanding you right, that is in the game.

[still rock]

oh?

lmao

[viral crag]

There is a check at the bottom that shows all gems that you can use.

[still rock]

did i miss somn

[viral crag]

Whether the game considers them "useful" or not.

[still rock]

no thats not what i mean

i mean all support gems that can be socketed into a skill

[viral crag]

Yes.

This checkbox at the bottom.

[still rock]

oh lmao i missed that ig

[viral crag]

For example, I can uncheck that box and craft envenom on my effigy totem 😅

[thorny token]

yea that checkbox should've been at the top or something its very easy to miss

[still rock]

ive legit been selecting them from "all gems" this whole time

oh well

[mystic osprey]

does orb of storms count as an "ally"?

[still rock]

no

[cerulean finch]

if i want to use Arc as my main attack skill, which 4 skills are best for arc?
Arcane Tempo, Lightning Mastery, Inspiration, Considered Casting, Controlled Destruction, Elemental Focus, Unleash, Conduction, Overcharge

[tacit cliff]

do grenades benefit more from far shot or point blank?

[vale pewter]

Ah ok thanks

[still rock]

unleash is prob really good if you can manage the mana

mana is a bitch in this game you have to find some creative solutions

[waxen jewel]

I'm getting into endgame, as deadeye herald lightning arrow ssf pile, and how the hell am I supposed to scale defenses with all the +#% increased ES being so far away. Should've played different class QQ

So fucking what if I have 90% evasion If I get 10% of the tiem 1 shotted. Okay, I get it, this is by design. Evasion musn't be the primary defense.

[orchid acorn]

What can make minions cost less spirit?

[waxen jewel]

Still kinda annoying that my primary stat leads me to shit base items

Okay I'm just whining for no reason. I'll have to up my INT and switch to better bases

[kindred lily]

what are you guys doing for merc builds

[thin basin]

Levels and theres a node top left on the tree

[vital trellis]

I'm clearing Tier 10 maps ok at the moment, Is my damage ok going forward for T15 or T16 maps?
Or need to bump numbers up more?
Invoker Monk

[orchid acorn]

Thanks

[thin basin]

Oh and theres also a unique boots

But its kidn of bad

[orchid acorn]

Can I lower the spirit req from auras?

[muted lynx]

anyone want to help a titan build?

trying to build leap slam -> devastate -> armour splosion. was recommended the crushing blows titan skill.

i'm 1shot heavy stunning things now, but they aint sploding 😦

[thin basin]

No the only thing you can do is get more spirit

[proud wagon]

If I get the Giant's Blood passive, will 2handers be 1handers or still be 2handers?

[waxen jewel]

Also: Wtf is are the supports that give +1 gem level supposed to do? Those are so sad lol

[orchid acorn]

Ty

[thin basin]

Well when going from level 29 to level 30 give you 30% more damage you wont say its so sad

[broken sluice]

Hey, actually Herald of Ash (Overkill) does trigger with Culling Strike. I tried it out and they do blow up (meaning at l have sufficiently overkilled an enemy).

[old ermine]

Does anyone know how to increase the quality of skills given to you by an ascendancy? It says they benefit from quality but I can't increase it with a gemcutters

[thin basin]

Cant quality, bad part on ggg side

[old ermine]

Man, they baited us with that tool tip then!

[thin basin]

They should still be 2 hander but youre “dual wielding” them now

[proud wagon]

oh thank you

[orchid acorn]

So you get bonus from 2 handed nodes and dual wielding nodes?

[thin basin]

If youre holding 2 of em yea, dont see why not

[wanton creek]

what do i put on glacial cascade 2 link for more dps

[thin basin]

Check the recommended, should be good enough for early

[waxen jewel]

You should have concetratted effect or similar soon

DOesn't that apply here?

[static plinth]

There's also the unique quarterstaff Matsya

[celest oxide]

Is there a comfy/fun farming Mercenary build I can look into?

[static plinth]

Does Pillar's damage boost apply to unarmed skills?

[celest oxide]

I made a Demon Form Infernalist after my Deadeye and I like it a lot

But like it’s better suited for only bossing I feel like because of the ramp up time

And I’m intrigued by Mercenary

[surreal drum]

Anyone got a build recommendation for a fun energy stacking caster?

[tidal copper]

increased life recovery works for life flasks and leech?

[narrow shuttle]

is there any tool online to see all available support gems for eagg do skill??

each*

[tidal copper]

https://poe2db.tw/us/

[severe iron]

Can someone explain?

[atomic halo]

you can evade

it doesnt mean you will

you still need to roll the chance to evade, based off of your evasion rating

[severe iron]

Ahhhh now i understand, cause Evsion alone cant evade every hit

[atomic halo]

yeah that would be pretty crazy, eh?

clicking one point to be immune to all hits

[severe iron]

So with Acrobatics i can also evade AoE

[narrow shuttle]

hmm it just seems to show the reccomended ones that are already ingame

[severe iron]

Thx

[tidal copper]

second and third tab up top after you click your desired skill

supported by/

[fleet blaze]

why is this good?...

[atomic halo]

it's not, really

mostly just for leveling alts

but i wouldnt pay 3d for that

... or some weird exploit with negative attributes, but that seems unlikely

[fleet blaze]

just tested doesn't take you into negative so yea i guess just alts for... some reason. rather use onsalught lol

[static plinth]

Supreme Ostentation + things that need your attribute numbers to be the same stonks? At some point in the future?

But yeah i wouldnt even pay 3ex for it much less 3d

[orchid acorn]

It's good until lvl 20-30

[azure wyvern]

how good is 39% (as this is the max you can get) extra chaos damage?

[lyric python]

is there any good website with the tree? the 2 I see on google are ass

[atomic halo]

maxroll has one

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree

[lyric python]

I cant hold alt to see info on the skill

[still rock]

press it once

[atomic halo]

then hover over the keywords

[vale pewter]

Can I not put Herald of ice on a button? I know it’s an effect but I still need to activate it

[still rock]

right click it in your skill window

[vale pewter]

Ah ok cool

[waxen jewel]

Ways to gain spirit to 120?

I wouldn't want to go for 86 str for implicit on body

Ohh I guess there's a vaal enchant....

But that's 1000 hours away, I'm somewhat ssf

[dawn spire]

Spirit can roll on any magic or rare chest piece or amulet

[waxen jewel]

Ohh right as mod

Umm, poe2db disagrees on explicit body +spirit mod

OOPPPS had boots

Okay that sounds super easy to get, thanks :)

Even the lowest tier prefix is good enough for me now

[thin basin]

discharge build is dead

firewall/shockground have like a 1 or 2 sec delay on reapplication

temporalist does bypass the cd it seems like

i have no idea on how to get ailment back on faster besides those 2

[celest oxide]

I’m starting a new twink because I’m over demon form taking forever to ramp up, want something fast and really comfy for mapping, already played Deadeye. Any reccs?

Something Warrior or Merc would be cool

[waxen jewel]

OMG what I would give for phasing

Though I understand why it's left out

One is supposed to be careful and carefully select one of the 20 skills to cast for each situation

[rough aurora]

I've seen poison spiral volley build and i'm pathfinder. Wonder if i can somehow use poison conc (or shattering) for single target + bosses, use spiral volley for mapping and add the herald stuff to the build. Poison itself can't trigger elemental ailments but is it enough to just have flat cold+lightning to freeze and have poison do the main chunk of damage? 🤔

[fiery wave]

what does increased projectile speed do for spark?

is there like a limit of on screen projectile or sth

[obsidian remnant]

Should I still have an energy shield after taking eldritch battery?

[fiery wave]

yes

unless you can full tank into mana

you run gaze

[primal zealot]

Did they announce pob2 yet?

[tidal copper]

What if you had a tree for Willow+Concotion stuff and the other one for clearing?

[viral crag]

Oh. Forgot ignite counts as an ailment 🤦

Do we have a list of debuffs?

Or do ailments count as debuffs?

Feel like they should based on the keyword desscription.

[cyan violet]

is ascending to Bloodmage as a Witch class bad idea still bugged/underwhelming compared to Infernalist?

[obsidian remnant]

Yes I’m running gaze had like 7k es and 1.5k mana when I take EB it turns it not 2.5k ES and 2.5k Mana. Idk what to do next or go for item wise

[static plinth]

Anyone know how much damage it takes to detonate Shattering Palm?

[fiery wave]

you use gaze to have es after you skill eb

i think your mana is a bit low for eb rn

but i mean i dont have that much more

i run writhe

[obsidian remnant]

Should I invest in more mana on my gear or more ES ?

[hard flicker]

Someone knows how bone storm scales at all? I'm having huge trouble deciding on which support skills to use; I know arcane tempo is very good and inspiration is mandatory cause my skill is like lvl 28 but then I really don't know if I get more from supercritical or heft or concentrated effect etc, the tooltip is really misleading and comparing support gems by feel I don't see much difference but there should be so yeah anyone knows how to calculate things around that skill?

[celest oxide]

Should I roll a Warrior or a Gemling next

[viscid hollow]

Any way to incorporate Temp Chains on a STR stacking build?

[echo wing]

Does anyone here have a good recommendation for a HCSSF Sorc build?

[sage gyro]

does ES have any damage reduction options?
Does "Reinforced Barrier" make armor reduce damage to ES?("Defend with 120% of Armour while not on Low Energy Shield")

[hard flicker]

If you're on witch side you have dmg taken by mana and grim remnants as reduction

[waxen jewel]

What are some sources of "+#% Increased AoE" outside from passive tree? I know the one that comes from non-emerald jewel prefix

And I know the quarterstaff

[devout wadi]

are there any viable witch builds that arent infernalist/fire? everything seems to go that way

[waxen jewel]

Okay nevermind, I found an excellent resource. Apparently poe2db has sources of mods listed topically!!! https://poe2db.tw/us/Area_of_effect

[nimble hound]

are any meta builds doable now or are all out of reach for new player due to divines

[vast folio]

can i ask for a bit of help here 😦 https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1325562212789522464

[ember wedge]

Hi everyone. Stupid question here. My Combat Frenzy isn't generating charges. The build guide i'm using says to use Profusion - should I use another one?

[vast folio]

are you applying any elemental ailments?

[narrow shuttle]

im trying to figure out how to get some sort of elemental chaining / procs or stun explosion procs on my war cry build. any reccs ? i do use herald of ashe and the combust cry first. but everyone kinda dies at the same tike with that. cast with stun is only for melee hits so im kinda stuck

[mystic shard]

quicksand

what is this? it says its a slow, but it has stacks

at 10 does it one shot u like drowning or?

[static plinth]

Stacking slow

I think its 6% per stack, so 60% at max

@still rock
I have attempted to create an immensely cursed build, figured you'd be interested. Is it remotely playable? Probably not. Am i going to try it? Probably not. But in theory, Unarmed attack only titan

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/uq146092

God i hope we get Facebreaker soon

[waxen jewel]

So mantra of destruction buffs the attack even when it's executed as unarmed?

[vale pewter]

Should I replace my basic quarterstaff strike with ice strike since it doesn’t take much mana or keep quarterstaff strike

[static plinth]

Who knows. I think it should

I dont even know if unarmed strikes build combo

[waxen jewel]

"Empower your next Quarterstaff Attack" is pretty ambiguous yeah

[static plinth]

Okay in my defence

[waxen jewel]

Should be pretty obvious whether it works just from the culling strike

Why no rage though?

[static plinth]

Rage on tree

[waxen jewel]

Sorry I'm idiot

Anoint "Way of the Wind" lul

Or "Flurry"

[static plinth]

Honestly id rather Flurry i think

Dash distance is already pretty huge

[swift flame]

Hello boys and girls i want to advice everyone, if not all know. Market is bug completely, this is happening for me whole day and for some people also that I asked, people keeps DMing me for items that I sold and prices that you can change is not uploading properly, it keeps old prices when people ask you to buy, there is a SPOT on REDDIT talking about it

[waxen jewel]

Yeah I first read "Flurry" gave 20% Less damage, but it was only reduced

[mystic osprey]

so I put font of rage in both orb of storms and artillery ballista(gemling ascendancy). They should give me double the amount of rage in a second but it doesnt seem to work that way? is this intended or not

[static plinth]

Font of Rage doesnt stack

I guess its reasonable to presume itd work between multiple skills

[mystic osprey]

oof

[static plinth]

But like Vine Arrow (i think thats the one) when you put a font on it doesnt stack

[mystic osprey]

I see. thanks

[spiral moth]

Do we have any site where to fetch your character profile with items and passive tree included?

[neat bison]

They haven’t added that functionality for POE2 yet unfortunately

You could use one of the build planner sites but you’d have to make it from scratch

[spiral moth]

yeh

would your recommend a specific one?

[neat bison]

Maxroll planner is fine for me, I haven’t used the mobalytics one

[spiral moth]

alright ty

[dawn condor]

how doez bleed compare to ignite and poison dot builds?

cause i kinda wanna try out out bleed conq and would like to know what gear i should be acquiring and passive nodes

[spiral moth]

bleed is pretty weak atm

you can add it to poison builds to complement, but that's about it

[neat bison]

I think hammer of the gods is one of the only worthwhile bleeds

Since it hits so hard

Idk how hard bonestorm hits, that might be ok

[vivid ferry]

aside from vitality and cannibalism, does anyone know any other support gems I can run to regen life?

[tidal copper]

Snipe isnt too bad either
but clear sucks and you really wonder why are you adding bleed when it does 1/3 of your damage after investing everything on it

[gleaming crystal]

is there any support build out yet with 700 plus iir?

[waxen jewel]

Tip for anyone playing Lightning Rod: faster projectile speed is good

Assuming you don't have some awesome damage mult

[lavish kayak]

Does "Time Snap" restore all charges of abilities if there a multiple with the second wind support gem, or just one?

[waxen jewel]

That would be funny

Isn't that just infinite cooldown reduction if it did?

[upbeat igloo]

Can herald of ash proc energy from elemental invocation?

[lavish kayak]

well it had like a 35 or something second cooldown, so yeah you'd be able to cast them a lot quicker, and completely negate the downside to second wind

its just that itll cost me 4 skill points and id rather not refund them if it wont work