2┃build-planning

[rich zephyr]

anyone have any lvl 10 skill gems?

[distant cypress]

on invoker monk's staff is increased elemental damage good?

[bronze carbon]

yeah it does lol, I just need more sources of it like the Trick Shot node/section maybe

[still rock]

yes but you want high throughput dmg first

flat phys / % inc phys / % inc wed

is good

[distant cypress]

ok ty

[midnight bolt]

help with totems ideas, is there a sneaky way to easily immobalize bosses, besides stunning them?

[still rock]

pin exists but youd need bushwhack for that to be reliable

since it doesnt really exist on melee skills inherently

oh i guess you could try pin support

but then you lose a support gem

[midnight bolt]

ye pin support is too much dps loss, ill see if i can fit in boots without sacrificing too much

[static plinth]

There's the gloves from.the Arbiter

Ab Aqueo or something

[still rock]

that still requires a source of immobilise though

[midnight bolt]

its super bad tho?

[static plinth]

Fair but it halves how much you need

[midnight bolt]

makes them take less dmg

[still rock]

if youre immobilising them with totems idk how that works lol

[indigo stag]

Is there a way to sneak electrocute (efficiently) in to a three dragon mask icestrike build?

Adding the support to charged weapon didnt quite cut it

[midnight bolt]

oh true lol

[still rock]

add a significant amt of flat lightning from qstaff gloves rings etc id imagine

may need conduction somewhere

[indigo stag]

but three dragons makes lightning contribute to freeze instead of shock

needs fire dmg to electrocute (i think)

[still rock]

thats fun

[still rock]

electrocute is unaffected by three dragons

[indigo stag]

😮

[still rock]

it is separate from shock

[indigo stag]

so then ideally charged staff should be able to do electrocute

electrocute scales only from electrocute %? Or is it dependant on dmg?

[still rock]

dependent on dmg, electrocution buildup is a function of the lighting dmg you deal with hits

so you can increase your damage and also increase that multiplier that gives the electrocution buildup

but if you do no lightning damage then its worthless to scale

[broken sluice]

anyone know why this doesn't seem to lower attribute requirementds?

[west sierra]

Do Warcry's count as spells?

[still rock]

no

[west sierra]

shame

[still rock]

warcrys are not attacks or spells

one of the few instances in the game

[viral crag]

If you want an additional curse, are people using the passive or just generally going with the ring?

[still rock]

depends on your pathing

[west sierra]

it's not too out of the way to get

[viral crag]

If I take the curse duration, it's just the point.

If I gave that up, costs me an extra 3.

[still rock]

if youre not on the north side of the tree at all then the ring most likely

[viral crag]

Just curious, I'm assuming if you take that with the "no delay" ring it would work as expected (no curse activation delay?)

[still rock]

its strong if you can effectively support it - blasphemy temp chains and enfeeble is big defense if you can spare the 120 spirit

[floral otter]

Is it worth it to give warrior a try or is it currently too underwhelming?

[viral crag]

It's for a chaos build, so either looking at hardcast temp and despair or giving blasphemy a try.

[still rock]

you mean windscream boots?

but yes

it works

[echo crag]

If I'm building an endgame quarterstaff which one should I use as the base? I see a lot of people using the crescent quarterstaff

[viral crag]

Ah yeah, it is boots for that one. Will have to look at what I'm giving up in the boot slot for that.

Because extra curse+no delay sounds pretty good.

[still rock]

on e you have a decent amt of +spell it becomes ridiculously expensive to selfcast curse, just a fair warning

[random mesa]

just want to check before asking, is this the right area to ask which catalyst to use for an amulet/emotion to instill etc

[still rock]

in my ed contagion build i selfcasted despair with inspiration and ran temp chains in a blasphemy

[broken sluice]

nevermind, it does work but it doesn't update the requirements

[viral crag]

Radius on blasphemy was pain when I first picked it up. Hopefully it gets better with investment?

[still rock]

probably more suited to #2┃crafting-advice but it doesnt matter much ig

[random mesa]

oh that makes sense doi

[still rock]

it inherits the curse area so you need to invest the curse area or spell area of effect for it to feel good

[viral crag]

Oh, if it's the area of the curse activation then I can see it getting a lot better 👍

Already planned investment there.

[still rock]

yeah it does

[viral crag]

Thanks for clearing that up, was wondering why it was so disappointing 😅

[still rock]

and small tip, if youre using magnified effect elsewhere you can use ritualistic curse in blasphemy to give it another small bump in radius

not anywhere as impactful as magnified effect but its something

[viral crag]

Yeah, magnified effect is currently on contag so I'll probably be going there. Depending on curse duration investment though, I imagine I could go expanse?

[vast folio]

Brothers, I have a question. Is there any Jewel modifier that increases the area of Tempest Flurry? I am not completely sure Area of Effect modifiers increase it 😦

[still rock]

expanse doesnt work in blasphemy unfortunately

since it adds a cooldown

[viral crag]

Ah, in blasphemy specifically. Good point.

[still rock]

but yeah contagion desperately needs magnified effect

[viral crag]

Really tried giving expanse to contag, but did not feel good when I was zooming.

[still rock]

it does

[viral crag]

Constantly wanted to reapply.

[vast folio]

LESGOOOOO

[still rock]

tempest flurry is sneaky area

you cant see it

good way to test is to put your bell out a little bit and spam tempest flurry outside of the range until you kind of see the final hit area

its specifically the final hit that has a lot more area

[still rock]

i felt the same

contagion with cd feels like ass

[midnight bolt]

are all gems capped at lvl 40? or u can go 43?

[viral crag]

Like I get we can group and get it to spread, but I feel like you really want the flexiblity of not having to specifically target "that one dude that caught the original contag" to get up and running.

[still rock]

i dont think its possible afaik

with the current sources

[midnight bolt]

it is on melee chars with +3 sk jewel and gemlin

[still rock]

oh with giants blood?

[midnight bolt]

ya

[still rock]

damn

[midnight bolt]

and the unique jewel +3 sk

[still rock]

well lmk when u get there what it says in game lmao

out of my own curiosity

[midnight bolt]

lmfao ill test it only if there is a cheap on on sale

[still rock]

what is it, +7 each 2hander?

[midnight bolt]

+14 from weapons +2 gloves, +3 amulet, +1 gemlin +3 from jewel thats +23 levels

and then if u corrupt lvl 21 gem will be 44 lvl skills

[still rock]

yeesh

[viral crag]

@still rock You seem pretty knowledgeable about chaos builds. Any advice on totem vs eye for wither application?

Genuinely considering a freeze/chaos and heard good things about eye for wither application.

[upper thistle]

Quick question : if I take a jewel that says "2 to 4% of damage taken from your mana before life" and I replace my mana with an alternative source (pyromantic pact). Do I get the mod for free, or does it cancel the mod ?

[still rock]

i used withering touch on totem, but eventually when dark effigy quality effect works that would be the easiest since youre going to use it anyways

it shits out damage

unfortunately the quality effect is broken

doesnt do anything

[viral crag]

Oh, I assume you mean effigy quality effect?

[still rock]

yeah

[viral crag]

Gotcha, see the edit 👍

[still rock]

yeah im a little scatterbrained today lol

[viral crag]

Yeah, that's disappointing. Seems we've got quite a few skills that need some touch up.

Heard that decaying hex doesn't get scaling either?

[still rock]

chaos dot is in a pretty iffy place functionally

the dmg is there but its clunky to map with

[topaz talon]

Best annoint to improve tankiness?

[knotty palm]

Can you disable auto lock on with Monk ? Feels absolutely awful to use at times

[viral crag]

For me, enabling the "Always attack without moving" in a skill generally disabled the auto-targeting without forcing me to stop in place... but I'm also playing a caster.

Worth a try at least 🙂

Had the issue with skills casting on nearby enemies rather than where my cursor was.

[knotty palm]

Might work yeah ill try

[fleet stream]

I'm cooking a new alt idea, but I never played Sorc yet and have a critical question about Shaper of Winter. Does it allow to freeze with non cold spells? Or only Chill

[toxic isle]

What's the bare minimum of Ingenuity Belt % I should aim for? Right now ~20Div for 68% increased which will take a while for me to save up.

[fleet stream]

69 sounds nice imo

[viral crag]

I've not actually played with it, but reading it sounds like it's every hit (hits in bold there)

So not every spell, but anything that hits.

[manic kite]

im doing fubguns tanky version of the deadeye la. with atziri and howa. because im using 2 uniques and that ring of torment. resistences are kind of hard. would a grand regalia with max life and elemental resis be a good investment?

[knotty palm]

Kinda works but it seems melee is fundamentaly fucked hh If you had your cursor somewhere near a mob and you place your bell next to it, your character refuses to turn around

[fleet stream]

I want to use it with Bonestorm

Which hits a lot, but I need it to freeze

[mild basin]

Can i do lightning exposure passively using lightning spells or do i need something that says that i apply exposure?

[fleet stream]

You need something

[snow arch]

Does crown of the pale king add your thorns damage to all your hits or am I misreading it?

[mild basin]

What normally people use to get exposure for spark build?

[fleet stream]

Like a node that says exposure on lightning spells

There is a cluster somewhere on the middle right

A branch for every element I think

Or is it the one top left

Just search for exposure

[forest thunder]

yo can someone tell me did all the builds get nerfed or something why was someone in chat freaking out

[hardy haven]

Anyone got any suggestions on how to best apply withered as a pconc PF? Apart from wheel on passive tree

[mild basin]

i saw several that give more exposure or increase, but not one that apply exposure

[still rock]

just to be clear this doesn't add an exposure source itself just increases the exposure effect

you need to put lightning exposure support on another spell to get the effect

[static plinth]

It causes ranged damage to trigger thorns

[fleet stream]

The wheel or the support gem that costs life. Or dark effigy

[static plinth]

Only chill

[mild basin]

Exposure removes resist more than the cap?

[snow arch]

oh so the jank build enabling potential got shut down by my inability to read

[hardy haven]

what support gem is that? Unless you mean lifetap, in which case I have no clue how that applies withered

[fleet stream]

Extract something

No wait, reply to Solblind

[static plinth]

Extraction

[viral crag]

Yeah, I was worried it might not work well for melee 😦

[static plinth]

Gives chaos damage so Withering Touch can wither

[fleet stream]

Adds 25% chaos damage for the mere 10% life damage ... Yes it hurts

[viral crag]

I am not at all familiar with PF, but I have heard rain as a good wither option.

[fleet stream]

If you can make it deal chaos damage

[knotty palm]

Deff better than without so at least there's that

[hardy haven]

Extraction was nice, exactly the kinda thing I was looking for

[knotty palm]

But i think the Colossus boss in Act 2 is just extremely jank, only being able to damage his fist is the stupidest thing i've seen

[fleet stream]

Talk again after you see your health drop when you spam it.

[sage gyro]

for avatar of fire, should i be focusing on fire damage bonuses or physical which then converts to fire?

[atomic halo]

fire

[hardy haven]

Not gonna spam it if its just to apply withered, and its not like my life matter either way. Its either full or empty 😄

[atomic halo]

in terms of % inc & % more, only modifiers to fire damage will apply

physical will do nothing

[fleet stream]

Only the last hitpoint matters

[sage gyro]

ah ok ty

[spare quartz]

How come i can blink when i throw poison concoction on my Ranger, i have my bow and quiver on weapon set 2 with no blink, so its sending me to weapon set 1 no quiver bonuses

[fleet stream]

Any way to eventually make it freeze?

[quasi ledge]

anyone have the formula for spell damage modifiers?
I've been looking for spells and need to know what proportions are the best

[static plinth]

Wdym

[quasi ledge]

like if % increased spell damage is additive or multiplicative to % increased <element> damage

[static plinth]

All Increased is additive, all More is multiplicative

The only other question is if it applies to your damage at all

[foggy spruce]

Mechanics question: does +projectile dmg increase damage of Ball Lightning, which is a projectile, but does pulses of damage? The details for the skill only shows 96 DPS...

[tidal copper]

What if you check the DPS with the point
Then remove it

[fleet stream]

Press alt when you hover above a passive node. It shows you a preview of the effect on your skills

[tidal copper]

Doesn't work for DoT*

[pseudo junco]

its kind of absurd that spark does 3k dps in act 3 cruelty meanwhile fireball does like 500dps and there is no way to scale it up effectively

[foggy spruce]

... Okay I think I see a way to do that that isn't extremely expensive.

[foggy spruce]

I'm still in Act 3 normal and spark (ranger caster build) has been... very, very good. I'm trying to move away from it because single target dps isn't great, but spark trough a firewall demolishes trash

[pseudo junco]

idk about ranger much, but for sorc its the only viable build

well

not only viable

but spark outperforms everything so extremely that everything else feels like crap

[viscid niche]

Does anyone know how the temporalis defencive stats works in practice. For example 20% damage recouped as life.

Is that 20% dmg reduction basically?

[viral crag]

Was going to say, I'm currently playing frost and chaos and having plenty of fun... but I'm probably also doing myself a favor and not looking at any spark gameplay to compare myself to lol

[pseudo junco]

like

spark scales with everything very well

all lightning does

you have more tools to scale it

and it all chains together

so the entire screen dies before you can even load health bars

[fleet stream]

Even kills off screen , especially with Ricochet

[worldly field]

Okey so gonna make a stat stacking build. is gemling the way to go. or chayula?

[mild basin]

Gemling stacker is kinda crazy as well

[viscid niche]

Someone not running an ultrawide monitor

[modern tangle]

im considering a diamond with cold and chaos damage as LA deadeye. is Chaos worth it, or nah?

Lightning + Cold seems impossible to find / afford

[foggy spruce]

How does +magnitude of ailments stack? Like, shock by default increases dmg by 20%; if I get 20% increase magnitude of non-damaging ailments, does shock now increase dmg by 40%, or 24%?

[candid otter]

I am looking at potentially busted combo, but I can't test if the interaction is multiplicative or only one applies.
What is going to happen when Ligurium Talisman and Zealot oath are used in the same time?

[wet mango]

? It shoots bolts of lightning (which are in fact projectiles)

[echo badger]

How can I make ancestral totem attack faster with sunder

[wet mango]

Over 8 seconds. So you still have to make sure you don't die

[viral crag]

Depending on what other games you have heard of, it's kind of the opposite of "stagger"

You're still taking the damage, you'll just get some of it back.

[wet mango]

#1321237459987726366 message

• Is different from increased.

The stat is 20% and you are increasing by 20%, not +20%.

[foggy spruce]

So.. I have +125% projectile dmg. That modifier will affect the bolts of lightning from the ball lightning, even though it doesn't show in the skill details? edit: and firewall +dmg will apply to that lightning too?

[wet mango]

Taking those points don't show on the skill details? I am extremely surprised by this

I could be wrong, maybe it's not projectile

[foggy spruce]

I admit, I haven't tested removing them and putting them back. Thanks for the response though. The tooltop for this skill just doesn't show as much detail as other, more direct damage abilities.

[modern tangle]

Nobody an idea here? Maybe cold + int or dex is better for more synergy with Wisdom and Action?

[wet mango]

Where/how did you expect to see it on the details screen? If not by comparing before/after

[foggy spruce]

I expect my level 11 skill gems not to show 96 dps lmao

[tidal copper]

Diamond?!??

[modern tangle]

Time-Lost Diamond

[tidal copper]

Ohhhhh chaos won't do anything
I'll bet lighting is the biggest and cold is 1/3 that

[wet mango]

Why lol

You can see how often it attacks and how much damage it deals

What supports does it have

Etc etc

Also, that's the DPS per ball

[brazen parcel]

Is there any chance that Stormweaver Spark will still have a working variant after upcoming patch? I'm worried they're going to not just adjust but kill archmage and I'm concerned that I should try and sell out before...but I also really love the build and don't want to. I'm just worried about losing all the currency I've spent when the nerf comes

[snow ridge]

does archmage affect triggered spells?

[brazen parcel]

I believe it does, yeah.

[modern tangle]

I need cold for freeze, so that's kinda mandatory. I know Cold + Lightning would be the best but I've never seen one so far for a price I can afford lol. So I'm wondering what the 2nd best combination could possibly be. Anything below 15 div

[viral crag]

Not familiar with the build, but there are fire->cold conversion options. Could you work with that instead?

[modern tangle]

Probably not; I'm just sticking to Fubgun's build right now

[foggy spruce]

It's just... clearly doing more than 96 dps (or 75 per use), as the detail displays. My other spells at this level are doing 750-1750 DPS, and lightning ball is on par with them. I just need to know which multipliers are actually effecting it so I can build accordingly... But it doesn't act like other projectiles. It always pierces--or maybe the ball itself does zero dmg, but it "shoots" lightning every .2 seconds--and is that lightning itself a projectile, getting my +125% projectile bonuses? Something is clearly hidden from me, and I don't know what it is

[midnight bolt]

well fuck, its not possible to have over lvl 40 gem, LAMMEEEE

[still rock]

good to know

owned

thanks jonathan

[midnight geode]

guys which path is gonna result in more damage?

[midnight bolt]

there goes my gemlin totems 😦 titan is more optimal because of this

[wet mango]

All modifiers are included in the displays dmg

[foggy spruce]

So I'm gathering... 20% increased magnitude of the shock ailment would bring the overall effect of shock to 24% more damage taken, because it stacks multiplicatively

[wet mango]

Yep

[still rock]

do howa totems instead

oh wait nvm that doesn't work in PoE 2

[midnight bolt]

ye i need giants blood

[hardy haven]

Howa works on artillery ballista

[midnight bolt]

no way im stacking any int

[still rock]

oh does it

nvm then

[hardy haven]

You can get some pretty silly damage/stun buildup on artillery ballista if you go all in

[static plinth]

Does 50%inc effect of small nodes affect Time-Lost Jewels?

[hardy haven]

And the "BIS" weapon for it is dirt cheap, only elemental damage with attacks and gem level scales artillery ballista on your weapon

[still rock]

i mean maybe the flat addrd makes up for it

would be a fun build idea

and perf for Gemli

[hardy haven]

gemling totems was fun, but lost interest after a while

you are playing a strong build, but you are essentially nerfing yourself. if you have howa you can do much better things

[still rock]

experimenting can be fun

[sage gyro]

Hello,
what's the website that shows you what stats can go on equipment?

[still rock]

poe2db.tw/us

modifiers tab

[vale pewter]

I wanna make a stormweaver build, should I build towards the archmage spark or cast on shock conduit build in maxroll?

Chronomancer sounds fun but on the website it says it does the same builds as stormweaver but worse

[last arrow]

what's the biggest zoomer build, like deadeye lightning arrow or something? I'm playing necro summoner, which is fun and safe, but clear speed is kind of slow sometimes/minion AI is terrible rn lol

[viral crag]

If chronomancer sounds fun, honestly give it a go.

[static plinth]

So why is Ignite considered bad rn?

[viral crag]

Bit biased as somebody that's got 2 chrono characters, but it genuinely is a fun experience (especially with how they designed the game) @vale pewter

[vale pewter]

Oh cool

[viral crag]

Freezing, blinking, having to play around mechanics due to the lower damage. It's great for a first playthrough.

It's also great if you want something more forgiving, as if you survive a big enough hit or get mobbed you have a button that says "nope" every 6 seconds 😅

[still rock]

multiple reasons but mostly because its inherent magnitude is only 20%, just like poison but poison can stack up to 8 and for whatever reason poison is also closer to more ailment deals faster than the fire side of tree - also the support for poison is just better, herald of ash sucks nuts and ignite specific support gems are pretty bad math-wise

and fire nodes arent great comparatively

[echo badger]

What type of items can have +to melee skills

Weapons helmet boots?

[still rock]

ive made it work pretty good for flameblast though

[pearl sluice]

How do you guys get your archmage build to 100k DPS ? Mine is only at 36k

[still rock]

for reference, in poe1 ignite was 90% base magnitude and poison was 30%

[jaunty reef]

around what lvl should i start looking for better gear from playerss? am on cruel right now

[mellow shell]

What does non-negative Elemental Resistances mean in "Hits ignore non-negative Elemental Resistances of Frozen Enemies"?

trying to make a ice sorc

[jaunty reef]

if their elemental resist is higher than 0 it sets it to 0 basically

[viral crag]

If you manage to reduce an enemies resistance to below zero, it's a benefit to you.
If it were to ignore those, you would actually lose damage.

So you can basically read it as "Ignores resistance when it would help you to do so."

[mellow shell]

So enemies I freeze always have 0 ER?

[mellow shell]

How would I lose damage if they have negative res? Or am I misreading that?

[late night]

I got a good HoWA, what are some of the more attainable builds you can go for with it?

[smoky tiger]

Is there a way to make my eye of winter spell travel further like the enemies does?

[static plinth]

Who the fuck made ignite and poison the same magnitude

[still rock]

idk id also like to know

i have a feeling theyll just make poison like 5% or some shit instead tho 😆

[static plinth]

Please no

[echo badger]

Fr tho how can I increase ancestral warrior totem attack speed. Like .3 seconds from casting sunder twice

[viral crag]

You would lose damage if they have negative res and that ability ignored it 🙂

[wet mango]

They use their own weapon but otherwise they still use your stats

[jade saddle]

is tehre a spreadsheet that says what all can be "rolled" on an item?

[still rock]

yeah I blanked on howa being gloves lmao

[wet mango]

Poe2db

[still rock]

rest in peace claws we loved you

[mellow shell]

Does that mean I can ignore any pen nodes? As long as I free enemies ofcourse

[static plinth]

Does the time you have to release for Snipe and such get reduced by attack speed, or does it only come faster and lasts the same amount of time?

[static plinth]

I have faith

[jade saddle]

i dono what that is lasagna

[still rock]

i want flail

[static plinth]

I want spears 😭

[still rock]

i need to exorcise wraeclast

[static plinth]

I wonder if weird mixed weapon builds will be viable in 2

Or if they'll even let you dual-wield different martial weapons

[viral crag]

I won't lie and say I've double checked, but as I understand it yes.
Penetration only helps you bypass resistance, so it wouldn't help if they're already at 0.

[still rock]

id hope so, thatd open up cross-skill melee builds

without having to swap

[jade saddle]

nvm, that site works, not exactly how i wanted it laid out, but it has the information

[mellow shell]

This seems like something I am gonna build. Freezing enemies and just bombarding them with overwhelming elemental damage.

[eternal vale]

hey guys. My SNIPE doesnt seem to crit. SNIPEER'S MARK isnt consumed and the dmg is fluxuating. Is it broken?

[still rock]

you have to hit the perfect timing

[eternal vale]

wdym i thought just hold it until its fully charged

[still rock]

nop

[eternal vale]

ok ty!

[viral crag]

I've only done it with pure cold, but it sounds like a good path to go down. Just the freezing+bombing is pretty fun 😅

[still rock]

theres a small window on it reaching full charge where you get the perfect timing, if youre late or early you dont get the crit or the explosion

Assailum unique helm increases that window

[mellow shell]

How much freeze buildup did you aim for?

[polar bramble]

If I am playing a witch do I have to use minions for a good build?

[viral crag]

Ended up getting a good recommendation for a chaos build, so haven't really pushed down that in terms of numbers 😦

[mellow shell]

I see

[copper idol]

How does Snipe interact with extra projectiles (Scattershot support, Endless Munitions)? Does it fire a spreadshot, or does it queue them up and fire them back-to-back?

[mellow shell]

I want to use ice wall in my build too. Should I go for more or less frost wall hp?

[thin basin]

no

[polar bramble]

I’m using infeeble with decaying hex and impending doom as my main attack and contagion for crowd control. Can this be a long term build?

[still rock]

probably not unless you have 600 int

[viral crag]

There seems to be some scaling issues with respect to decaying hex, so you will need to supplement it with something 😦

Apparently it does not benefit from chaos damage improvements*

[polar bramble]

Wdym

[still rock]

correct

[viral crag]

Wrote that better, might help.

[still rock]

which blows

[polar bramble]

Oh ok

I might have to switch it up then

[still rock]

i reported it as a bug hopefully it gets addressed as does dark effigy quality

[viral crag]

Which I get that it shouldn't be a sole source of damage for a build, but it should at least scale with you.

[polar bramble]

What’s a good build then. I am about level 23 and have access to level 5 skills

[still rock]

makes no sense why it wouldn't scale with chao damage atleast - i can understand the spell damage maybe not working since its not technically a spell

[viral crag]

If you're going chaos? Contagion and Essence Drain is the go-to in terms of chaos leveling.

I also use the same setup you're talking about, but those two are an important part of your damage.

[polar bramble]

Ok I have both rn

[still rock]

ed contagion and dark effigy, you can use decaying hex with a curse on top of those

[still rock]

dark effigy will carry the build

[wild stirrup]

would these stack?

[viral crag]

Like once you get to despair you would likely want to switch, but enfeeble with those two supports will still do plenty of damage for clearing trash.

[still rock]

No, subterfuge will just take your base max es from the helmet

[wild stirrup]

will mods on the helmet boost the evasion?

[still rock]

yes % increased evasion on helmet would be a local mod which increases the base evasion on the helmet

[wild stirrup]

okay atleast i have that

[still rock]

wait

you mean the evasion from subterfuge

?

then no

[light island]

anyone planning a thorns build?

[still rock]

because its local so it only affects the evasion on the helmet

[upbeat crow]

can my spells crit if i have no crit on wand but have crit chance from passive skill tree

[wild stirrup]

so all that matters for subterfuge is the base?

[still rock]

yes

[vestal vigil]

bit of a theory question but I'm looking for potential skills to use with 'cast on ignite' for a gas grenade build. Any suggestions? Currently my merc is running wind dancer and herald of ash, but thinking of switching from strength to intelligence and running blasphemy (flammability) and cast on ignite but not sure what my free cast should be

I'm using the unique helm that ignites everything in presence so ignite source is not an issue

[frank gazelle]

hey

anyone knows why i cant use these 2 points?

[atomic halo]

that interface is so confusing

[still rock]

cast on ignite cares about the ignite magnitude source to generate energy so this probably wont work well

[still rock]

you dont have any skill points to use

[polar bramble]

Ultimate German build

[frank gazelle]

I see, but how do you know that since there it says 2(24)

[still rock]

skill points: 0

[frank gazelle]

well yeah

but it says weapon set points 2(24)

[still rock]

you can spend weapon set points to your lowest number between the two and then you need actual skill points to allocate further

[vestal vigil]

sadddd

[indigo tulip]

Anyone know if Pathfinder heavy drinker is good for 2-3 group

[wet mango]

Poe2db.tw

[wet mango]

Sure but are you going to reliably freeze bosses? Or how will you be freezing mobs that are highly resistant in the first place

[upbeat crow]

can my spells crit if i have no crit on wand, but i have crit chance from passive skill tree?

[wet mango]

I think that's the intention of weapon swap

[stoic berry]

i found a bug on my passive skill tree. when i add / remove points on my 2nd weapon set. It affects my entire damage / health / manapool on my 1st set.

[still rock]

i think he means dual wielding, say, an axe and a sword and being able to effectively use an axe skill and also a sword skill seamlessly

[wet mango]

"at the moment you fully charge"

[mellow shell]

With 284% increased Freeze Buildup? And highly resistant doesn't mean negates freeze buildup correct? Doesn't that mean that node just makes them 0?

[wet mango]

Should be spread. Afaict only some crossbow ammo skills have a secret "additional projs barrage" modifier

[wet mango]

Well it increases the helmet evasion. "Base" refers to the base stats of the (white) item, before local modifiers

[jovial perch]

does anyone know how to proc damage heralds all at once without using unique items

[sudden imp]

guys. is there any way i can get raging spirits to proc energy for cast on minion death

[still rock]

ah yeah, bad phrasing ty

[wet mango]

Oh I guess ailments arent affected by resist

Sure

[wet mango]

Yeah, your conclusion is right, just being not picky about terminology (since it does matter at times)

For example, does illuminated crown operate on the base ES of helm? Or the Helmet ES?

[mellow shell]

I don't know man. I just want a ice sorc that can freeze, cast on freeze and crit, and is tanky. Talking about tanky. How do people make sorc tanky with the mana and energy thing? Is it just Mind over matter and Eldrich battery nodes and stack as much ES as possible? Or am I missing something here?

[agile meteor]

Is there any good temporalis Gemling legionare build?

[wet mango]

Everlasting gaze also

[mellow shell]

Ah thanks

what about "Chaos Inoculation"?

[spiral jasper]

How come my shattering concoction isn't increasing its damage on the skill info tab when I use "Endless Blizzard" node? It DOES increase the level but not the damage itself...

[viral crag]

Mana regen is a big part too 👍

[tribal moss]

hey guys, question, what are empowered attacks? I have a jewel that buffs my dmg

im playing monk as invoker

[upper viper]

I might use it in the future, for my mana/int stacker

Spamming blink, with lightning storm or what its called

[wet mango]

Some skills empower their next X attacks or smth

Empowered doesn't mean anything on it's own

See infernal cry, or emergency reload

[tribal moss]

so it buffs somehow my attack without needing something right?

[mighty elk]

Hey guys.Can somebody help.What build you think strongest.Played on warrior..To hard late game

[mellow shell]

I got 84% on my passive tree alone. Is that a enough?

[sudden imp]

anyone?

[sterile stone]

only works for reviveable minon

[soft lake]

Yes, see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OiveX_REt8

I'm not sure if the amulet + keystone is necessary or not

[sudden imp]

funny enough

im trying to make a build from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0CAIZn3C0

but i dont have 1 divine for the fireflower amulet

[soft lake]

Looks like an updated version of the same build then!

[sudden imp]

i feel so fucking weak and im trying to make that build

but its the amulet i cant get

and i only have 20 exalts to my name and its so frustrating

i cant even map correctly cus every map takes 15 mins to do

[sterile stone]

cast on minion death still works srs? thought they nerfed it

[sudden imp]

i cant even buy call of the brotherhood since its 1 divine as well

[sterile stone]

why even build that tho, ggg gonna nerfed it prolly in a week

[sudden imp]

because im extremely weak and cant clear waypoint tier 2 maps

[soft lake]

Yeah, that build is definitely not going to be functioning the way it does in that video by the end of the week

[sterile stone]

yes but dont make that build its 100% gonna get nerfed

[sudden imp]

:/

[soft lake]

It's clearly broken, ha

[sudden imp]

how do i even improve then?

like this is what im going with rn with blueflame bracers

and i cant kill efficiently

and im not gonna go use spark because that shit is definitely going to be nerfed

[sterile stone]

maybe try ruetoo fireball icewall build

[sudden imp]

i forgot to mention this is an attempt at cast on freeze comet build but it seems cast on freeze is nerfed to shit

[soft lake]

Well they nerfed the cast on X skills so they're not able to auto clear

[mellow shell]

Atziri's Disdain helmet seems to also synergize, but it's not mandotory right?

[soft lake]

It's more of a single-target utility

[sterile stone]

any cast on build gonna need more investment now

[sudden imp]

:/

i lowkey might just go main monk at this point since herald of ice and thunder seems to just delete everything

[sterile stone]

that also will be nerfed

if you see anything that too good, its nerfed

[sudden imp]

sigh

so what build should i even go for on sorc stormweaver

[sterile stone]

spark/arc

any spark build will works, if its get nerfed it will still work unlike cast on builds

[sudden imp]

:/

[soft lake]

They don't want builds that delete everything in the game instantly, so expect the ridiculous number of comets per second builds and the HOWA builds that delete bosses in 2 seconds to get nerfed

Spark will probably get adjusted, but not in the same way the other things will

[sterile stone]

monk will also still work they likely only nerfed the herald

bow/monk/sorc, all of them will be nerfed in some way but it wont get bricked

[sudden imp]

is there any build other than arc/spark?

or is that deadass the only build people go for

[cloud pebble]

Is there gonna be a patch this week?

[soft lake]

Nothing announced, but I'd expect a minor patch by the end of the week at least

[sterile stone]

i mean we have very limited number of skills

[viral crag]

People go for so many builds... but you have to keep in mind that people naturally make comparisons as well.

There's plenty of options, but there aren't many (or any?) that come close in measure of performance.

Playable, certainly, but not as efficient.

[sudden imp]

so, if i want good performance i guess ill just suck it up and go for spark ig?

[viral crag]

Depends on what bar you set as "good" 🤷

[soft lake]

Also, if you're only looking at the popular YouTube videos then you're only going to see the super strong builds (that are probably first in line for nerfs)

[sudden imp]

i just want to be able to clear maps decently fast

[viral crag]

If your bar is to compare to the best build though, you're going to be first in line for nerfs every time.

[balmy fable]

funny thing too is theres a lot of stuff that's good but not quite at that bar that people ignore

[sudden imp]

i mean i figured

[balmy fable]

plasma blast is hilarious and quite good, for example

[soft lake]

Yep, I'm still having a good time with my poison crossbow!

[balmy fable]

oh yeah @soft lake im still playing siege cascade + plasma blast lul

need to get my siege cascade damage higher for clear to feel good tho

[soft lake]

Yeah, I just saw your message a little bit ago (I've not been about over new year)

[sterile stone]

what is plasma blast

[balmy fable]

rn it can take a few shots to clear

[balmy fable]

ya fair enough

[balmy fable]

crossbow railgun

[soft lake]

I did try Siege Cascade on mine but it doesn't hit enough for the poison to be consistent. Definitely better suited to hit builds, I think

[sterile stone]

aahh, not famiiar crossbows

[balmy fable]

its also just super jank, you need pretty high hit damage and low ias i think for it to feel good since its 1 shot per reload

so you need a high enough base hit to kill in 1 tap

to trigger 3 dragons

[sudden imp]

so.. i guess is there any recommendations? i dont want to cast a fuck ton of comets per second, or insta kill stuff. i just want to clear reliably

[balmy fable]

which is kinda just a matter of getting a good enough crossbow + enough supports

[soft lake]

Yeah, factoring Three Dragons is makes it difficult

[sterile stone]

bow builds are very straight forward

or crossbows

[balmy fable]

im half tempted to drop 3 dragons, im not sure its actually doing that much

downside is id lose glove slot + a ring to run cold conversion + polar ring

id also lose freeze on bosses in exchange for shock

though actually

cascade cant cause freeze buildup

so youd HAVE to use the ring

if you go cold convert

upside is that lightning nodes tend to have benefits for cold on them too

ie. dual pen

[sudden imp]

is this skill any good on bow?

[soft lake]

I'm going for high damage and low IAS anyway because scaling attack speed isn't that worth it with the poison limit. But yeah, my poison chance is only like 40% on Galvanic (Plasma Blast is at 100% with the support gem). It feels fine for Galvanic because it chains and I've got poison prolif, but Siege Cascade felt a little inconsistent for me. I do wanna pick up a little more poison chance and try it again, though

[soft lake]

Yeah, I'm not sure how much it'll do for you

It's great for the builds that need to be shocking, and want Explosive Shot to be able to shock

But it's not quite as necessary for you, I think - just a nice thing to have instead

[viral crag]

Honestly, my recommendation is to dig in. It's early access, play around with something that sounds fun 👍

I'm over here on chrono chaos dot, having the time of my life lol

[soft lake]

Yeah, now's the time for experimenting

[dark olive]

how much damage should I be doing by act 3?

[balmy fable]

i think galvanic might be smoother clear overall

im gonna experiment with diff setups

[sudden imp]

hm.. alright ig, hopefully i have a better experience with monk because im extremely put off from continuing on sorc because i deal no damage

and i have no way to know what to do to increase dmg

[balmy fable]

ya idk, triherald also doesnt really seem necessary when you can just run HoI + HoA + some other aura

[soft lake]

Are you playing around with weapon swaps at all?

[sudden imp]

me?

[viral crag]

How far did you get?
If you were building for sparks, expecting to match that top build, then you were going to do poor damage until you got archmage.

[soft lake]

Nah Dazzy

[balmy fable]

thing is this was needed when I was running shockburst, but plasma blast just feels so nice and is incredibly entertaining

[balmy fable]

havent yet

[viral crag]

And playing sparks with no arch is a long road.

[balmy fable]

but i might so i can use one for clear one for bossing

[sudden imp]

im at mapping tier 2. i was building cast on freeze comet build with fireball and blueflame bracers.

[soft lake]

Plasma Blast is definitely one of the most feel-good skills in the game, I think! It's so damn satisfying

[balmy fable]

though I think with siege cascade you definitely go either 3 dragons or cold convert gloves + polar ring

i dont think you keep it fire

sacrificing a lot of clear if you do

[hasty vale]

Hi guys new to the channel! Looking forward to seeing what kind of builds people are cooking and hopefully get help on some of my own! 🙂

[balmy fable]

@soft lake beam feels like its worth 3 dragons for the freeze on bosses to get an extra free plasma blast

im not so sure though

[midnight bolt]

has anyone tested if its current or max mana?

[viral crag]

Yeh, little bit past archmage then lol.
Not sure what to say then, build might need attention. Sorc clearly brings the damage (both with that build and sparks)

[soft lake]

Yeah, I think there are quite a few ways to approach the swaps. Clear versus single target, different elemental types, different weapon types, damage versus utility, etc. Things like shock effect for single-target are an option, too - or even electrocute, perhaps, instead of freeze. I think it adds a lot of depth to builds that people haven't really explored that much still yet

I've got a load of wither nodes on my swap at the moment, so I use my second set for applying wither and get all the juice applied to that, and then just damage nodes instead on my main set

[sudden imp]

:s should i look up a guide on cast on freeze or just swap to spark

[balmy fable]

ya im just not 100% sure what to do with it

[viral crag]

tbh, my main advice is still the same as above. You're paying to be here early, do whatever you need to make that time enjoyable ❤️

[balmy fable]

I thinkt he braindead thing to do is +gem level crossbow and use totem

[viral crag]

If that means breaking out a build guide and polishing until you're hitting that mark, then do that.

[sudden imp]

alright

[balmy fable]

ill probably mess with dumping points in my offset into cold then converting siege cascade

or w/ three dragons setup, dump points into making siege cascade hit harder somehow

[soft lake]

Yeah, it's definitely something that takes a bit of experimenting

I'm not sure my wither set up is optimal at all, but it's the best I've found so far

Because I'm only applying wither against bosses anyway

But taking increased AOE for your clear skill might work better for you

[balmy fable]

im still not entirely sure 3 dragons is the way to go over fire to cold conversion

like freezing bosses is nice but HoI chains would be even nicer

[soft lake]

Is electrocute an option for you instead of freeze?

[balmy fable]

potentially

[soft lake]

Then Plasma Blast can lock bosses down for you without needing to convert

[balmy fable]

if i can figure out how to make plasma blast electrocute without losing damage

[soft lake]

I think you're basically limited to the unique gloves or the support gem

[balmy fable]

gloves has to be blueflame if im converting

for HoI

I do have 1x support slot potentially tho

im running uh

unbreakable

primal armament

lightning infusion

would like to run the movespeed w/ channelling as a 4th

or a damage support

then 5th is open

[wet mango]

I might have missed something but do you have an effect that lets lightning damage poison?

[balmy fable]

theres limited enough support options that i can afford to run a utility support

[soft lake]

I'd maybe try Mobility over Unbreakable if you've not already. Both are solid and achieve similar things - not getting stunned out of PB - but the movespeed is nice

[balmy fable]

yeah ill give it a try

[soft lake]

Plaguefinger unique gloves

[wet mango]

I don't know that you're you're doing much poison in practice if not

[balmy fable]

i was just getting swarmed while channeling before and unbreakable solves it

[wet mango]

ah nice

still, you'd want something with high dmg/low speed

[balmy fable]

icr, is it exposure that can go - or curses?

[wet mango]

stacking poisons don't work (as they did in 1)

[balmy fable]

i think exposure only goes to 0

[wet mango]

both

pen won't go below 0

[balmy fable]

theres stuff that allows u to stack it but only to 8

[balmy fable]

ah thats what it was

i should grab a source of exposure then

[soft lake]

Yeah, I've got Galvanic Shards for clear (which is pretty insane with Fork support), and then Plasma Blast for single-target

Plasma Blast obviously being a crazy high damage hit

Well, three crazy high damage hits with Scattershot

[balmy fable]

or just be a deadeye and get 2 for free

:d

[radiant lake]

Level 30 freeze and shock I use but I am new to the game I am trying to level faster and I wanna get stronger like OP

Just farming lost city act 2

[soft lake]

I quite like my Pathfinder choice! The free poison prolif and the reduced movement penalty while using skills feels really nice, plus 6 passive points actually feels really impactful with how many points you want for poison

[balmy fable]

ya i hear pf is great

im just teasing mostly

quite happy i was able to drop scatter

deadeye things i guess

[runic rose]

Are warcries spells or attacks? for the sake of damage mods

[balmy fable]

wtf where did i put my blueflame bracers

[soft lake]

I've still not tried Poison Concoction for clear versus Galvanic, I need to do that. Although I don't know how strong it'll be without the Widowhail tech

[balmy fable]

oh guild stash lul

[soft lake]

It'll say on the tags on the gem screen

[balmy fable]

from what i hear the thing to do for clear w/ poison is the boots

[runic rose]

It says warcry

[viral crag]

Then it is not an attack, or a spell.

An attack will say "Attack", a spell will say "Spell"

[balmy fable]

yknow you might be able to make bleed spell work with weapon swap @soft lake, just occured to me

use one set for ex sanguinus for clear, other for boss swap

ill have to experiment with it at some point

rn im enjoying this build tho

[static plinth]

There's no reality where Hand of Chayula deals good damage right?

[balmy fable]

not really, its mostly for curse application

[static plinth]

Can Staggering Palm deal decent damage

Maybe ill just have to bide my time for Facebreaker

Oh actually Shattering Palm deals decent damage i forgot this skill existed

Wait it also has an AoE component i wonder if you can get it to reliably detonate itself

[soft lake]

That could maybe work actually, yeah. Although you'd probably need to dual wield to get enough bleed chance, right?

But it'd help you get enough bleed chance for your clear skill, definitely. And then use the support for your single target

[cyan idol]

Hello, excuse me im planning of doing a rarity group build, but i see everyone taking some Jewel node what you use as jewel ? There isn't any res jewel at all so i don't know what stat to focus on. If someone can help me please ? ❤️

[median kraken]

Depends completely on the jewel

On the build, rather

[cyan idol]

it's a rarity build group plays, so i don't even cast any spells excepted curse

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/3iymy0vp following this one

[karmic siren]

what's better for a sceptre, +3 minion level and +65% damage or +4 minion level and +25% damage?

[static plinth]

You cannot. Hilariously though, thorns damage is causing it to go up

[balmy fable]

yeah thats exactly what youd do

@soft lake u was right, mobility support feel sbetter than unbreakable

Unbreakable is probably better with less MS though

[soft lake]

Yeah, I really like how it feels! Part of the reason I went Pathfinder is so I essentially get that built into every skill (and then I use Mobility on Plasma Blast as well so I can (comparatively) zoom)

[sage flame]

Why does having "Grim Feast" active cancels the spawn of my "Skeletal warriors"? is it a bug or am I missing something please?

[balmy fable]

both take spirit

[sage flame]

yeah but I should have enough

yet it doesn't work, pretty weird

[balmy fable]

Dyou have supports increasing spirit cost?

[snow ridge]

game says exposures of same types dont stack, so does that mean multiple types of lighting exposure dont stack? or just 2 exposures of the same source

[atomic halo]

only the highest exposure of a given element applies

[normal prawn]

Same type as in lightning

[sage flame]

setup is pretty complex (it's on a weapon swap) I had to set up specific gems for specific weapon set, it might be the issue I dunno

[atomic halo]

if you have 30% lightning exposure and 20% lightning exposure on the same enemy, only the 30% will matter

[normal prawn]

Did you assign the quantity of warriors to spawn on each weapon swap

[sage flame]

maybe not

[snow ridge]

kk saw this in Lexyus storm cdonduit build form 10 days ago and didnt get why he was bothering with conductivity

he says they stack in the video

[atomic halo]

conductivity is not exposure

[normal prawn]

Is that 88% shock twice?

[snow ridge]

oh

[atomic halo]

exposure is exposure

[atomic halo]

stormweaver thing, double shocks

[normal prawn]

I just didnt realize thry could hit 90%. No wonder everyone is playing them

[snow ridge]

idk why I thought conductivty said it exposes....

[atomic halo]

it does effectively the same thing, reduce enemy resistances, so it can be confusing.

[soft lake]

Surely this means you're swapping away from the weapon that's providing you with your skellies?

[sage flame]

well something's off here but I'm lost in my head and can't really understand whats'a happening hahaha I think I need a smoke

[sage flame]

the idea is so :
Main set = DPS chaos dmg witch (wand + focus)
Second set = Blink setup (Scepter + Shield) for spirit and cooldown on blink

Scepter gives "lvl 7 skeleton" yet it doesn't spawn skeletons when I swap to 2nd set when Feast is on. I have 130 spirit left

[normal prawn]

As for the reason im here. Any minion players able to tell me the Skel warrior spirit cost generics for levels 18-30 ish range? Or have a brrakdown source of all spirit minion costs?

[atomic halo]

poe2db.tw ?

[static plinth]

You have to manually swap for weapon swap blink, right?

[normal prawn]

All i could find was a weird outdated claim that warrior was 60spirit and gave block chance. But im on phone so navigating db was hatd

[sage flame]

What is that 3rd checkbox btw plz?

[soft lake]

Transform - I assume you're an infernalist

[sage flame]

yup, I set it up only for cliffs

[normal prawn]

Last i knew weapon swapping with grim would wipe out your overflow unless you had the exact amount of max ES in both swaps. Ei focus to no dupe focus bad

[sage flame]

damn

[astral badger]

im following this build, T16+ map version. Trying to decide on an annointment. I'm thinking either Siphon or Mental Alacrity. Any thoughts? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/hutch-cryoshock-stormweaver?weaponSet=set1&widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiJmM2FlZjM2MC1lYmQwLTQ2MTUtOTU4OC1kOWE1MzA1YzU1NjUifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0#equipment-3

[normal prawn]

Are you looking 15ex range, 80ex range or 10div range

[astral badger]

Or maybe Adverse Growth?

[normal prawn]

Figured out why poe2db gave bad info on spirit costs which confused me as prerelease stuff. I clicked fextranolife

[sage flame]

Can't even use dark effigy transformed anymore, wtf? xD

It seems buggy, or else I'm completly missing something

[worldly grail]

Hm...has anybody tried testing lochtonial caress with conduit? Curious if you can give one charge to each of your minions, then benefit from every charge a minion just gained, thus multiplying charge gain.

[molten birch]

Hey, does the chain support gem also lowers the debuff of essence drain oder only the initial hit?

[sterile stone]

allies charge are not yours, minion does not have ways to use charge, and charges gives no stat

[sage flame]

not 100% sure myself I still have to test it

[worldly grail]

Ah, okay. That's unfortunate, but makes sense. xD

Thanks!

[soft lake]

Charges can give stats with the permanent buff that I forget the name of

[sterile stone]

this one?

[ornate anvil]

Anyone knows how crit damage is calculated? Can it vary between weapon minimum damage up to weapon maximum damage or since its a crit it always uses the wep max damage?

[soft lake]

Yeah, that's the one

[worldly grail]

I haven't tested it, but by the wording, it would not affectg the debuff damage. You may want to test it, though.

[sterile stone]

thats just a skill that use charges like other skills lol

[soft lake]

True, but it still gives you bonuses per charge!

[molten birch]

I tried to test it but I wanted confirmation. It does not seem to lower it but I am low lvl so maybe I do not really see it

[soft lake]

Well, from charges, not per charge

[sterile stone]

poe 1 charge with extra step

[soft lake]

The buffs are strong if you can consistently generate charges, though

[sterile stone]

sounds easy with cast on profane

[worldly grail]

Well, lochtonial caress in PoE2 says you share charges with nearby allies. That's why I was thinking you could share charges with your nearby minions, but the wording is a bit ambiguous if the "sharing" goes both ways, or if you just share your own charges out to others.

[sterile stone]

or just any freeze/elec build

prolly the opportunity cost why people arent using

[worldly grail]

If it went both ways, then theoretically, when you grant a change to nearby allies through conduit, they'd each share the charge back to you.

[sterile stone]

your minion does not wear the gloves

[worldly grail]

So it is a one-way share.

[sterile stone]

you as the wearer share the charges

[worldly grail]

That makes sense

[hasty vale]

Anyone got some suggestions for Barrier invocation support skills. I'm currently running a ballista totem build with infernalist and am constantly building energy using Pyromatic Pact and the small mana pool + high expense on the totems. Just wondering if there would be any good support skills that could debuff bosses in some way / give me extra defensive layers

[sterile stone]

anything that would result in a loop is highly unintended even if it works

[worldly grail]

They probably did it that way to prevent anything similar to the old void shot shenanigans. XD

[wet mango]

https://poe2db.tw/Skeletal_Warrior
just click the dropdown menu and use the search

[wet mango]

? Do you mean fextralife gave bad info? what does that have to do with poe2db

[sterile stone]

you can find it on youtube, barrier invocation caster

looks gonna get nerfed tho

[wet mango]

when you crit, you just get bonus damage based on your "crit bonus damage" stat

(which is a %)

that's it

[foggy gyro]

Wanting to lvl a hunter, any good lvling builds?

[wet mango]

hunter?

[foggy gyro]

Ranger?

Bow and arrower?

[hasty vale]

I'll have a look it. Really I just want to know if there's a debuffing spell / tech that could make use good use of barriers mult-cast

[sterile stone]

radiant grief gas arrow

[foggy gyro]

Ok I'll check it out thank you

[foggy gyro]

Nice

[twilit python]

what are "bonuses gained from equipped rings" from the belt of ingenuity. Is that litery every stat on your rings with %?

[soft lake]

It's every stat on your rings

[normal prawn]

Fextra gave base gem info. I found what i needed in DB.

Warriors and clerics are the cheapest. But it takes alot to lower spirit below 20

[sudden imp]

guys can someone send me a spark stormweaver build. i asked in #1322252994858713172 but no one cares to reply.
i would like the build to be reliable at clearing maps because im weak as shit and a build that doesnt require divines to invest in. i literally just looked at one spark build and it requires everlasting gaze amulet

every build i come across that is "new player friendly" is just fucking divine priced items

[soft lake]

You need to ask yourself "is this item 100% necessary for the build, to the point where the build doesn't function without it? Or is it just best in slot?"

Is there anything about The Everlasting Gaze that the build absolutely requires to function?

[sudden imp]

thing is, im new and i dont really have a proper grasp on things. maybe its for arcane surge ascendancy or something

[radiant lake]

How do everyone get higher in level quicker ? I am at lost city trying to level up faster I am at level 30. Is there a gem or armor I should look out for that gives me more xp

[slender edge]

anyone playing a melee witch?

[radiant lake]

I am playing monk

[soft lake]

Well in this instance, I can tell you it's not 100% necessary, it's just very good. None of its stats are build enabling, and the only unique line, "Gain (20–30)% of Maximum Mana as Extra Maximum Energy Shield" doesn't do anything to enable the build, it just gives a lot of energy shield that you won't have without the amulet

[sudden imp]

i see

[soft lake]

It's an item you want, but not one you need to be able to even start playing the build

[sudden imp]

sigh, im just going to freestyle my own passive tree since all these guides have uniques in them

[soft lake]

Kill more things more quickly. There's no gem or armour for XP, you just have to keep playing

[soft lake]

Some uniques aren't build defining, and figuring out whether a unique is build defining or not is important to understanding how your build works

[solid badger]

Am I right in thinking this unique helm synergizes VERY well with this notable on Blood Mage? Assuming that Grasping Wounds counts as a "damage over time"?

[soft lake]

Just blindly following guides without understanding what makes your build work isn't going to be much use either

[soft lake]

Grasping Wounds isn't damage over time, I'm afraid

[solid badger]

Oh seriously?

[soft lake]

You just lose that amount of life

You can't mitigate it

[viscid hollow]

Does Culling Strike count as damage for Overkill damage?

[soft lake]

Grasping Wounds is still very strong, even without that item working the way you want, though

[soft lake]

I'd assume not

[viscid hollow]

I think so as well I just wanted to know if I should remvoe Herald of Ash as Witchhunter

[soft lake]

Cull applies after the damage, I think

[viscid hollow]

and what other spirit skill I should get

[soft lake]

I guess if you've got Herald Of Ash already then it shouldn't be too difficult for you to test whether you're getting the ignite on nearby enemies when you kill something

[viscid hollow]

On this note does Bleeding and Ignite trigger culling strike?

Because I am not sure, it seems random to me

[soft lake]

Nope, only hits

Hits can also bleed/ignite. But the damage from bleed/ignite won't cull anything

[viscid hollow]

Oh well, hope I get Three Dragons to turn fire into Shock 😄

[soft lake]

Your Herald Of Ash won't do anything with The Three Dragons, if that's what you're thinking

I mean, it'll still ignite, of course

But it won't shock

[viscid hollow]

Guess I will just have to replace it, idk with what tho', on Witchhunter with Exploding Bolt

If I get Three Dragons I can go for herald of Thunder

[soft lake]

At least as far as I understand anyway - obviously test it for yourself when you get Three Dragons!

[viscid hollow]

but maybe I could use something else defense wise since I play HCSSF

[snow ridge]

how stupid would it be to make a really high-recoup high-regen build? I know one-shots and DoTs screw you over, but is it still effective vs lots of small hits?

[pearl sluice]

does anyone know if pathfinders are just glasscannons is this known? i keep dying act 3 cruel difficulty

[crisp creek]

is ice sorceress already dead? comet is to slow

[atomic halo]

there's nothing inherent to pathfinders that make them glass cannons

all depends if you build it right

[pearl sluice]

okay thanks

[crisp creek]

chronomancer can use sparkmage build?

[cedar tangle]

how do things like doom blast and mana flare work - do they use the supports of the spell that triggered them or are the ycompletely stand alone?

[umbral dove]

if I use a lightning spell with call of the brotherhood (convert lightning->cold), in my gear/tree do I want increased lightning or cold dmg? or does it not matter

[atomic halo]

cold

only

[umbral dove]

thanks!

so its really conversion and then gear/tree amplifiers right?

[soft lake]

Yeah, they use the supports (when applicable) that are linked to them

[soft lake]

Yeah, conversion happens first, and then increases/reductions/more/less, etc

[cedar tangle]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Receiving_damage relevant wiki entry

[wet mango]

that's what EA is for

[wet mango]

keep progressing the story, don't farm old zones

if your level is too much different you have severe xp penalties

[cedar tangle]

cheers. feel like it should be explicitly stated

[sudden imp]

fair enough

what support gems do i slap on spark to make it good

[dusk fractal]

is anyone knowledgeable about monk skill tree that could help me maximize my build?

[snow ridge]

wait, do triggered spells use supports too?

[still rock]

recoup is worthless unless chronomancer and then life is too hard to scale imo

[soft lake]

Yep

[still rock]

so its a catch 22

[snow ridge]

like if I put a +fire level in a Cast on Shock that has a fire spell attatched

[soft lake]

I've seen some interesting infernalist tech with recoup for sustaining demon form, too

[snow ridge]

okay see thast what I thought lol, but the game was like "NOO DONT DO THAT" and I was sittin there just goin "Eh?"

[still rock]

Ah, that's intersting

[snow ridge]

I figured you could use proper supports for triggered spells

[soft lake]

Yeah, that'll work

[soft lake]

Converting life regen to ES regen with Zealot's Oath, and then taking recoup to deal with the life loss seeing as you have no regen any more. And then using uncapped demon form and Pyromantic Pact

[peak slate]

how can i reset a map and for it to be all grey again i have a bug in jiquani's machinarium map where i have the small soul core and i cant see the door coz i was with a friend and he was able to go to the 2nd map and i am stuck here anyone know what to do please im stuck since yesterday

[sturdy wraith]

does CI work with infernalist beidat passives? im assuming no?

[tidal copper]

Click a way point right click maybe control right click? The Machinarium in the map

[soft lake]

Control + left click

[outer vault]

for infernalist build is there a point to getting fire res above 90%? thanks

[tidal copper]

Can't go over 90 can you?

[outer vault]

i dont think so? thats why im asking, idk if theres some secret tech out there

[tidal copper]

Elemental weakness lowers your resistances I think 15%?
Having some extra resistance is nice for those maps

[outer vault]

ahhh true true, many thanks

[fleet flower]

does energy shield recharge rate affect mana regen when using Eldritch Battery??

[soft lake]

No

Conversion happens first

Then increases to stats

[tidal copper]

Refer to: conversion tooltip

[static plinth]

Does Hulking Form affect Time-Lost Jewels?

[tidal copper]

What do they do again?

[atomic halo]

passives in radius grant:

[tidal copper]

I'll bet yes

[dreamy kindle]

i want to do the cwdt comet build but the build guide says i need lv80 minimum

so any idea how to level fast from 1-80

idk anything about sorcerers

i have some money to buy gear

[dry haven]

id recomend killing stuff fast

[dreamy kindle]

i need to redo campaign for sorcerer s

how long would it take to hit lv80

[honest condor]

I wana build for cold damage but idk weather to do Monk or Sorc

[tacit lichen]

If my weapon deals 120 phys dmg, and i have say 20 fire dmg and 20 cold dmg from other sources, I get that my base damage is 120 + 20 + 20. Let's say Skill converts 50% of phys to fire. So my new base dmg is 60 phys, 80 fire, and 20 cold. The skill is 50% of base attack damage. Does that calculate per damage type? So it would be 30 phys, 40 fire, and 10 cold?

[atomic halo]

dont overthink it

50% of base attack damage means you deal half damage

no matter what, conversion doesnt change anything

so yes

[wispy swift]

Is anyone here big into SSF who I could dm with some questions?

[static spade]

In fireball Is it more preferable to go for Fork or Pierce?

Counting that you have a chain on terrain

[hasty vale]

Hey guys quick question does 'Beidats hand' ascendancy point from Infernalist calculate health to maximum energy shield before or after ghostwrithe? I presume with CI not calculating until after ghostwrithe that this would also work for this ascendancy point? (I'm well aware it's likely to get nerfed soon)

[kind mountain]

The weapon speed of both weapons aaffect the global attack speed? or just the one taht is attacking? can aomeone answer this uestion?

[hasty vale]

I would assume just the one attacking because attack speed doesn't affect totems based on the weapon but totems are influenced by global attack speed

[kind mountain]

i see i see

[fathom wind]

is golden charm worth using?

[still rock]

i wouldnt use it over the QoL of say freeze/stun/slow charm but if you have a decent amt of rarity as it is, it could be good i guess

honestly outside the three i mentioned I see little use for charms

chao charm if you arent chao capped

[atomic halo]

regular charms are pretty shite anyway

[still rock]

yeah i dont get the craze abt +charm affix tbh

id rather have that suffix for something else

res most likely

though, i imagine unique charms will be a thing eventually

[static plinth]

Only minion spell that deals damage ourselves is Unearth, right?

[still rock]

as of now it seems so

what are you cooking

[static plinth]

Briefly considered Trenchtimbre CoC but its not fast enough to be worth it over a rare

[manic grail]

can anyone help me understand why im getting this error for a support gem in skeletal warriors despite a video on youtube clearly showing it socketed?

[atomic halo]

is it a str req thing

[manic grail]

my gem says it only needs 5 str

which I definitely have

[still rock]

+5 from what youre already using

from other red support gems

[manic grail]

oh what, I didnt think that's what that meant

thanks

[terse escarp]

can enemy res go into the negatives?

also does fire exposure and flammability stack? how are they different?

[manic grail]

ahh yep that worked ty ty

[atomic halo]

yes but not through penetration

[static plinth]

Is there much we can do with Quecholli rn?

[atomic halo]

fire exposure and flammability do stack

fire exposure is a debuff, there are modifiers to exposure that affect it

flammability is a curse, there are modifiers to curses that affect it

but they both subtract fire resistance

[terse escarp]

so if I have -41% exposure and -26% from flammability, that means all fire damage I do is increased by both additively? (idk if the dmg increase is just 76% or if its exponential)

[atomic halo]

do you understand how resistances work?

[terse escarp]

the fire res reduction being additive*

[atomic halo]

they do add, yes

if the enemy has 0% base fire res, it will take it to -67%

so you deal 67% more damage

[terse escarp]

gotchu, was unsure cause other games i play defense shred increases damage exponentially

[atomic halo]

reducing enemy resistances is a very effective way to deal more elemental/chaos damage.

[terse escarp]

makes sense

[halcyon solar]

There is no Essence for Rarity on items, right?

[atomic halo]

nope

[hasty vale]

I thought this wasn't the case in PoE2 and only in PoE1? I thought the lowest res a mob could have was 0%

[atomic halo]

that's for penetration

penetration will not take enemy resistances below 0%

[hasty vale]

Oh I see

[atomic halo]

but effects like exposure and curses apply negatives just fine

although there is a -200% hardcap (in poe1 at least) that may still apply

[terse escarp]

last question rq: so does shock % additively stack with any negative resistance %?

or how does shock work with negative resistances

[atomic halo]

shock is increased damage taken

[sharp osprey]

I need some redpills on warbringer armor break xbow, I keep hearing it's spicy

What do you wonderful discord goblins know?

[olive compass]

Has anyone tested stun resistence? I wonder if its useless or if its nice to have one or two mods on my gear

[halcyon solar]

Since you get additional points in the map boss tree for like killing them on T16-18 maps. What if i kill a boss in a T18 while i haven't killed one on like T17 before?

do i have to do that twice then?

or do i still have to kill a boss on a lower level map to get all possible points?

[white carbon]

Someone knows best way to drop trenchtimbre???

[reef hedge]

would it be worth it got get bluflame with higher Fire Damage Converted to Cold Damage then 92%? would i noticed any diffrent with 98% gloves ? go a gas arrow build

[terse escarp]

so how much damage would 100 lightning damage do to an enemy with -100% lightning res and 50% shock? 350?

[atomic halo]

100 * 2 * 1.5

= 300

(@terse escarp)

[terse escarp]

ah okay thank you

it is a separate multiplier

[woeful tinsel]

Currently working on a monk ranger. Been heavily going into shock but I've read that cold is a better element to specialize in?

act 1 level 11

[whole crystal]

which one? doing a lightning arrow build atm

they feel quite similar

however in the tool tip i loose damage while using the unique

that's why i'm confused

i'm guessing it shows the dmg per projectile?

ah lmao

for clearing the unique is quite better, idk about bosses

[static spade]

Does using Sacrifice spirit skill and consuming a minion as a corpse count as killing a minion?

[sturdy sable]

Tooltip is accurate

You just need to have deep understanding of info its giving

But the info is correct

Technically speaking

[hexed vessel]

is CI viable together with cloak of flame?

[hazy olive]

mana recovered per time

if you mean mana regen rate i think it same

[astral willow]

p sure it applies after regen so if you take MoM, and you have 120% mana regen rate, it woulg become 60%

you can counteract it a bit with the Arcane Blossom node

[hazy olive]

[latent sinew]

So I'm a little torn right now. I made a Bonestorm build as Infernalist and want to swap. I'm thinking Blood Mage (life overflow + leech + crit dam) or Stormweaver (perma arcane surge + phys can shock, can't go archmage unfortunately since it's a channeling skill). Anyone have any thoughts about this?

[errant sentinel]

how can i use 2 handed weapons with blood witch ?

[astral willow]

I'm not 100% sure on the technicals tbh. The practical effect is that fixing Mind Over Matter mana issue requires a lot of investment in mana stuff

[astral willow]

the consensus atm seems to be that blood mage is kinda half baked and lacks the sustain to really stay going in higher level content.

[hexed vessel]

is CI viable together with cloak of flame?

[radiant lake]

How does a person electricity take out whole area like butter

I had someone help me. Took out the whole level and boss like butter

[latent sinew]

Sustain as in the counter the life cost of blood remnants?

[radiant lake]

I am a monk use staf ice and shock but I am only 31

[astral willow]

yee

[old aurora]

Sent you a PM

[magic pier]

dropped a mid MM, decided to krangle it, who can make use of this?

[latent sinew]

Oh lol I just looked at my 300 mana costs per second. Wanted to swap off infernalist to not deal with the degen stuff but that's prolly just as bad lol

[astral willow]

fill it with magic find gems, stick it in weapon set 2

infernalist isn't so bad because you can cap the burn. But you lose weapons when shapeshifted

[mortal tiger]

i need one of those xD

[latent sinew]

Yeah. Channeling spells with leech is awkward too sometimes cause you're not actively leeching while channeling a lot of the times

I assume MoM doesn't interact with the life cost added by blood mage?

[hazy olive]

can choir of the storm lightning bolt crit and trigger itself?

[tepid vortex]

anyone here familiar with cast on crit?

with lightning conduit?

for some reason during boss fights it takes half of my mana i have 6k mana and almost instantly removes half

1300 mana regen

trying to find out where this massive disparity is lol

[hazy olive]

is lightning conduit triggering very quickly?

[tepid vortex]

i mean yeah lol

but it would have to trigger like 10 times to hit the boss no boss would survive it

im 175k dps spark with 44k base damage.

[hazy olive]

aa boss have more power so faster energy gain when crit

[tepid vortex]

yes that i know but how would i fix this lol

[hazy olive]

more mana regenn www

or reduce mana cost

[sonic blade]

Figuring out Spirit vs Minion levels is weir

[tepid vortex]

wait why is cast on freeze so much cheaper than cast on shock?

sorry cast on shock cheaper than cast on crit

[midnight bolt]

is there any logical reason to run capacitor support on cast on crit/ignite/shock/minion death?

[midnight bolt]

cause freezing is much harder than shocking someone

[tepid vortex]

no cast on crit i meant

cast on crit is 100 cast on shock is 60

[midnight bolt]

and cast on crit is expensive cause it procs the most

[tepid vortex]

im running archmage/cast on crit with 1300 Mana regen and i cant keep up my mana on bosses lol

[midnight bolt]

u cant, my coc dumps 4k mana in 0,5 seconds

[tepid vortex]

yeah its nuts

litterally the moment the boss is vulnerable my mana dumps from 6k to 1

1k

[midnight bolt]

its either designed for insane mana sustain or builds with 50% crit chance

[tepid vortex]

wouldnt 50 crit chance dump it even faster lol

[hexed vessel]

anyone know interaction between pyromantic pact from infernalist and mind over matter?

[midnight bolt]

no ,its way less procs

[midnight bolt]

there is no interaction theerer

[tepid vortex]

what do you mean?

[midnight bolt]

50% crit is less crits=less procs

[tepid vortex]

im at 24% crit chance and my mana dumps the moment i start hitting a boss

[midnight bolt]

im at 100%

😅

[tepid vortex]

im a spark

with lvl 27 spark 21 projectiles lol

and i fire 5 sparks a sec

[hexed vessel]

hmmm pyromantic pact replaces maximum mana to infernal flame, but mind over matter makes all damage go to mana?

[midnight bolt]

u dont have any mana so no damage going anywhere

[tepid vortex]

i wonder if i have to just get more mana regen lol

[hexed vessel]

ahhh so go straight to hp, so useless mind over matter. thank you

[midnight bolt]

just accept chronomancer supremacy bc its the only class in the game that can sustain its cost

[tepid vortex]

haha

[midnight bolt]

dump 6k mana refund with 2 sec cd, dump again

pretty much my build rn

[tepid vortex]

i guess maybe if i can get my regen to 2k?

lol

[midnight bolt]

u can get like 20k mana, that would help a bit

[tepid vortex]

i wouldnt even know how to do that on a spark sorc

[sonic blade]

I found someones excel sheet for spirit vs minion levels but it doesnt work for storm mages

[keen glade]

do you guys know how to check the "base" elemental damage? im thinking of switching my rings to "26% increased cold damage" but tool tip only shows 3% increase when i change rings

[white timber]

Depends on build, skill/spell. Attacks using weapon damage, spell its own, archmage scaling base damage with your manapool etc

[old aurora]

does anyone know much about incinerate?

[hallow flax]

Any build-advice/critique on my endgame merc build? I am using a combination of crossbow stuff for damage and crowd-control via raw damage and inflicting ailments to do more damage, grenades for stationary/boss targets, balistas for extra support and distractions.

This is all on top of my Ascendancy subclass focusing on Cullling Strikes and Decimating Strikes to do significant chunks at the start and last 30% of boss/elite HP.

[muted birch]

does anyone here have a a High phys/cold staff I can try on to benchmark my dmg will give collateral. I have an ele staff rn and really cant calc my dmg as ice strike scales of phys.

[keen glade]

imo, you need ~500 ES and ghost dance, take off defiance and thick of it and replace with beastial skin. eva as main defensive skill, ghost dance to fill up the es when you get hit.

[hallow flax]

I notice the surrounding effects often helping to deal with poison/bleed damage when surrounded.

[woeful tinsel]

Been running a HC bow build and using monk as a starting class for evasion/ES. I've been pretty consistently getting one shot though and I'm wondering if I'm approaching this wrong. By the time I hit ogham I have about 100 dps on raw gear with the pathing I've been doing. Res is about 30 or so for everything. Life is maybe 200 with 170 ES. Evasion at 30% I think. Should I just focus on pure damage and not really worry about ES/Evasion or should I go something like merc and try for armor/evasion.

My only other class I've run is Titan and went pure armor / life but that wasn't a HC build

[hallow flax]

Wouldn't Bestial Skin make sense for the Delirum amulet passive since it's so far out?

[shy ermine]

what should i slot this with if i already have 75% in all 4 resistences?

[median kraken]

Probably depends on build and budget. Rarity, life, mana, or max res soul cores all seem like reasonable options to me

[west epoch]

Do skills granted by ascendencies gain gem sockets by level?

[median kraken]

Yes

[west epoch]

at what level?

does it vary?

[median kraken]

I think last socket is level 90, not sure about the others