2┃build-planning

[thorny token]

yes

tailwind + wind ward is very strong

[summer owl]

Yeah that was my original question, I can't get my head around it.

Is this a mistake on GGGs end?
Sorcery Ward requires a heavy tax with no upside.
Both on your Evasion & Armour as well as additional ascendency node cost to pump it from 30 to 45% which is.. abysmal.

[blissful fulcrum]

Does anyone know if Reality Rending from Acolyte of Chayula Ascendancy Class works with totems?

[thorny token]

well the upside is you get shield but it is weaker than tailwind + wind ward

its not mistake on ggg end just balancing issue on ggg end

deadeye is very overtuned atm imo

[summer owl]

But a shield that just covers elemental at 30% of your evasion after it halves your evasion, it's a crazy tax.

While Deadeye could go full evasion on points and put energy shield on gear and get both lol.

[thorny token]

you cover phys with cloak of flame but yea

[slow nymph]

how important is getting defensive stats in passive tree? could i do well enough with the equipment i wear/buffs

[summer owl]

Looked it up, yeah that's true. But other points reman.
haha

[summer owl]

Thanks btw, this explains a few things. You were very helpful.

[thorny token]

yea i mean it should be just 40% less lik invoker atleast

or 30% even

[summer owl]

Out of curisity when uniques or rares slamm on the ground. What attack type is that?
Is that elemental or physical? Would sorcery ward cover that?

That's my current issue

[thorny token]

depends on mob, most of the jumps and rolling slams are gonna be phys most likely tho

liek the leaping fuckers and the armadillos or whatever they are

[summer owl]

But does that mean you're locked into cloak of flame when using Sorcery Ward?
I am new to Poe, or can I extract that particular modifier out of the cloak of flame and put it on any other armor I want?

[thorny token]

you are locked to cloak of flame

[summer owl]

Dang, lol

[thorny token]

in poe1 we had modifiers on rare chests that also gave phys taken as ele

but in poe2 the mod pool is a lot smaller for now

[raven coyote]

any ranger main? I need some help what to slot to my gear

[summer owl]

I am already locked to The Three Dragons helmet with my build, I don't want to by chest locked as well, that's boring, haha

[thorny token]

yea you definitely cant do both if you want good eva at least :d

as chest is #1 source of flat eva and helmet is #2 source

[summer owl]

The only benefit I see with Witchhunter is that I get to play as a dude as opposed to a Karen.
I mean... that might outweigh the benefits of Deadeye if I squint.

[slow nymph]

does melee damage contribute to effects of aftershocks/explosions if initial skill that caused it was a melee hit

[thorny token]

you can just slap on mtx on ranger, my deadeye looks like dude

[summer owl]

Bring me your boss

[thorny token]

but yea witchhunter is one of the weaker ascendancies atm imo

[summer owl]

You can use microtransactions to change skin?

[thorny token]

no but you can cover yourself in thm :d

[brisk glade]

It's not that deadeye is better crossbow ascendancy, it's just that crossbow suck a lot and deadeye is the one who can make it up for it

[thorny token]

and the microtransaction with the wolf clothing is just male armour pretty much

[summer owl]

Can't hide the Karen energy though.

[brisk glade]

The reloading animation and the damn low speed

[thorny token]

i disagree on both points pretty much

[brisk glade]

Don't worry, I was joking

[thorny token]

crossbows do not suck and deadeye is just straight up better crossbow ascedancy

because of how crossbows work with barrages and tailwind

[summer owl]

This is my impression as well, but I don't have your experience just paper theory.

[brisk glade]

I simply hate crossbows cause I had to do campaign with them

[thorny token]

deadeye just fits way better

ah yea crossbows early are misery

lul

i just leveled with LA/rod

[summer owl]

Tailwind straight up give 30% reload speed?

[thorny token]

until explo shot + rapid fire

[thorny token]

yes

[summer owl]

What level you get explo shot?

[brisk glade]

100% they will nerf those 2

[thorny token]

and you basically insta stack it with stuff like shockburst

[brisk glade]

It's crazy that I can melt bosses with lightning rod and orb of stom with a low level bow

I am using it and it feels like it is there just to make any mapping build capable to kill bosses too in a way

[summer owl]

@thorny token Correct me if I am wrong.
You used Lighting Rod and Lightning Arrow with Bow and Quiver until you got exploding shot and Shockbursts at lvl 44?

[thorny token]

22

[summer owl]

So you switched to Crossbow at 22?

[thorny token]

yes

[summer owl]

Do you have a build guide you followed?

[thorny token]

but it would be better if i didnt :d

[summer owl]

Both for endgame switching to xbow and using Bow early leveling?

[summer owl]

Why?

[thorny token]

well la/rod is still better leveling

but if you want to crossbow asap like i did

then 22 is earliest level you can switch

(and also if you had LA/rod like i do)

reminds me too much of oos/stormblast leveling from poe1

[summer owl]

I don't want asap, I want to get to endgame asap then switch.
So La/Rod.

What is La/Rod again?

Lightning Arrow and Lightning Rod?

How does that work?
You put a single Rod down and you spam it with Lighting Arrow?

[last swallow]

what's better?

[thorny token]

fuck that shit forever

xd

[thorny token]

no you spam rod while putting down OOS

[past dust]

chaos res

[thorny token]

on bosses

well you put down OOS and spam rod

[summer owl]

OOS?

[thorny token]

for clear you just LA + rod

orb of storms

it activates whe you use lightning skill near it and it has fuckton of chains

so it procs rod a lot

[summer owl]

Ah ok

[thorny token]

thats why rod is op for leveling (and in general mostly, because you do cast on shock/crit ball lightning later)

[summer owl]

I see

[thorny token]

but the ball lightning part is just bugged that one shouldnt work

[summer owl]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/lightning-arrow-deadeye#passives-header
Doesn't have OOS

[thorny token]

its outdated leveling guide then

[brisk glade]

I mean, is it that one bugged? Not the rod?

[thorny token]

because everyone uses oos

[thorny token]

well one of them is

as rod says chaining beams only

and BL isnt chaining beam

[brisk glade]

If you are saying the truth then I am glad, cause lightning rod is insanely funny

[brisk glade]

I mean... Chaining beams lightning aroow?

[thorny token]

LA has chaining beams and so does oos

so those 2 work as intended

[brisk glade]

Oh well fair enough

But orb of storms might have a chain due to hitting in order? Idk

[thorny token]

but BL just hits stuff around it and thats it :d

[brisk glade]

Still, main damage is from the rod, right?

[thorny token]

yea

the other skills are just triggers

[brisk glade]

It is still insane, I feel like there is something wrong

Maybe it's just how good the combination of lightning rod and bell is

[slow nymph]

is this still worth it? the dps doesnt go up much cause of reduction in speed

[thorny token]

well every rod on ground counts as enemy fr stuff like OOS

and oos can fire multiple beams

and each one of those beams chains like 5 times

12 times with chain support

so its a lot of procs

[brisk glade]

They might reduce it

There is something wrong and I don't know what

[thorny token]

if anything they would add some icd to rod maybe

to the procs

or make oos target only 1 rod at once

[brisk glade]

Cause the fact that I can do endgame bosses with it with a generic bow and quiver which do not have any stat stacking scaling trait

[thorny token]

but you cant rly nerf OOS just becaus eof rod exists

as oos is spell that casters actually might want to use at some point lul

so cant be nerfing it just because of bow skill

[brisk glade]

I mean, they will just nerf how it works with lightning rod, but still

I am sure if I go with LA instead of OOS I will still melt bosses with low level weapon and quiver

[thorny token]

LA has like 1/5th of the procs so its not as good with it

well its not even comparable really

[brisk glade]

Also I don't think they will nerf it tbh, it's a cheap way to destroy bosses, idk how good it is in pinnacle with deadeye or other classes with high performance bow and quiver

[thorny token]

no trading here

[brisk glade]

Wrong chat mat

[thorny token]

see rules

[languid pulsar]

sry

any chat for that here?

[thorny token]

i think if only thing they will do is bugfix BL then its mostly fine

[thorny token]

not here but you can go to the forbidden trove discord instead

[brisk glade]

I mean, there are servers for it, this one might be kinda hard

Cause if there is any issue with trading it will be a pain to have in official servers

[thorny token]

well this one isnt official server either

[languid pulsar]

can you invite me for any server that i might be able to sell my char?

[thorny token]

its just TFT atm

dont think there are any other discords for poe2 for selling builds atm

[brisk glade]

I am not inside those servers, just google forbidden trove and you are good

But tbh the amount you listed might be a lot and risky

It would be better to sell individually

Anyway, returning to main topic

[brisk glade]

I mean, you use an unique bow which has ton of arrow speed or the one which splits arrow or the one who shoot 4 arrows at once

4/5 you can reach

And also much more range

[thorny token]

well the 4 arrows at once wouldnt work i think becausethey would just continue in straight line and not hit anything

and LA has to hit something for the beams to appear

[brisk glade]

You either hit boss close to it or the bell

And if I am not wrong the one with 4 arrows at once work with the rod too

So you shoot 4 lightning rod, less risk to miss them

[rough aurora]

Question about theese boots, would love them to freeze instead via the 100% conversion gloves. When exactly is the conversion happening? Does it use Freeze Chance/Buildup etc?

[wet mango]

What exactly are you converting

How would this interact with freeze??

[daring grotto]

There are gloves that convert fire damage to cold

Fun for cast on freeze fireball builds

[rough aurora]

i guessed with those it would do cold damage and thus be able to freeze?

with gemling, 10% of hp is actually a lot

[wet mango]

It applies ignite, not a hit

[proud sorrel]

Does BlackBraid's "Armor Adds to Elemental Damage" refer to my damage or the damage of enemies?

[thorny token]

thats not what it says but it applies to enemy damage

[proud sorrel]

*applies

okay ty

[slow nymph]

is it a good idea to use this passive? unsure if the reduction in speed will reduce intended effect - i will be dual weilding so maybe it will be worth it as the damage should be doubled?

[thorny token]

the damage wont be doubled

but yes its good passive

[daring grotto]

It applies ignited ground, similar to fire wall kind of. And that does cold

[thorny token]

you cant convert dots

[rough aurora]

it deffo can freeze, already figured just not idea how to speed it up as it takes ages

[daring grotto]

Use the ignite helm too

😂

[nimble hound]

best crossbow build atm?

[thorny token]

shockburst deadeye probably

at least from those that actually have guides

[stuck monolith]

yo gamers, does the unleash support gem work with skills put into 'cast on x' metas?

im not seeing multiple triggers

[daring grotto]

Unleash is based on cast time and triggers don’t really have cast time so I could see a weird interaction there

But I’m guessing

[thorny token]

well unleash is not supposed to be even linkable in first place

its just bugged atm

[pearl sluice]

what is considered one of the best real cheap builds

[thorny token]

like all other checks that check if you are self casting something or not

so actual behaviour may vary as its unintended :d

[stuck monolith]

got it, thanks

i could easily see ice nova being triggered multiple times with unleash

but it doesnt seem to trigger multiple times with cof'd comet

[daring grotto]

Yeah I use it on my ice nova and it def works

Also use the knock back support and it makes for a good get tf away from me button 🤣

[wicked merlin]

If I wanted to make the change to a mixed (expert wayfarer jacket) how much EV/ES would I need to end up with the same amount or more energy shield/evasion total if using subterfuge mask/spectral ward and a full ES helmet?

[stuck monolith]

neat, means my comet will deal more dmg now, since ive been running a dead slot for some time

[stuck monolith]

i turned it into my lmb attack

with the astral projection support

[daring grotto]

Unfamiliar with lmb. I’ve considered using astral projection as well but I get swarmed so much in breaches and don’t really have another fix

[stuck monolith]

left mouse button

i.e. regular basic ass attack

[velvet blade]

Is it possible to get a 5 socket item skill?

[rough aurora]

item level 90+ afaik

[sacred abyss]

awhow do u mean?

[daring grotto]

Yeah I should probably use astral projection when not on breaches now that I think of it

[velvet blade]

Dang, is that even possible right now?

[sacred abyss]

You need to use an item to increase the gem slot. although I think corrpting it gives you a chance at that too (plus one slot)

[rough aurora]

think so 🤔

[stuck monolith]

astral proj, echo, freeze buildup, cast speed and whatever i find useful when i get to endgame

funny spammable freeze on lmb

[sacred abyss]

idk but if you do change, can I have that? lol

jk that's not that good actually lol /s

[wicked merlin]

Yeah the life amount is too low for my liking I am sure there would be better for my monk

[sacred abyss]

just me a lowly level 72 clearling out T15, then getting greedy and going back in for a few items, caught a straggler trap and died instantly lmfaooooo so still cleared it, but lost the stupid 10% (prob half what I got out of that rift lmfaoo)

[stuck monolith]

another question, are 'cast on x' metas affected by +cooldown supports?

e.g.

[sacred abyss]

since that says use yourself, I wonder if "cast on x" could even use that

but if it dont have a cooldown, I supose it may not apply? or does it give it one?

[daring grotto]

I think the only 5 socket I’ve seen is the unique from arbiter

[sacred abyss]

are you talking skill gems?

[daring grotto]

No items

[sacred abyss]

what other thing has 5 sockets?

[daring grotto]

Don’t think there is any

[slow nymph]

can someone look at stats i picked see if all good, got 100 points to spend for warrior -- its not exactly reflective should be 50% increased effects of small passives but doesnt reflect it on the planner

[sacred abyss]

then I repeat, wtf are you talking about? lol

skill gems?

[daring grotto]

The chest from arbiter

No one singular item

[sacred abyss]

oh 5 STAT slots lmfao

[drifting cedar]

does the top line here apply to spell staves as well as quarterstaves, spell staves only, or quarterstaves only?

[daring grotto]

No gem slots

[thorny token]

well on trade quarterstaves are still categorized as warstaff

so it might apply to both?

[sacred abyss]

https://i.imgur.com/mVjOyYd.png good ways to do that

[vivid ferry]

is the general consensus that 200% item rarity and above isnt worth it?
I might drop my IR from 200 to 150 ish

[drifting cedar]

yeah, it might. was just noticing there are zero spell staff / wand nodes on the new tree..except this one maybe

[slow nymph]

think so watched vid on it today of a guy that analysed it

[vivid ferry]

watched something similar but his sample size was only 20 maps

hearing overall that its not worth it

[sacred abyss]

tbh 100 to 200 isnt even really needed. BUT we dont yet know how they stak on things like waystone modifiers. But someone did a dstudy that after 100 ish, the returns significantly diminished.

[slow nymph]

thats what i watched hehe

[thorny token]

it looked like its similar to poe1 still (in terms of diminishing returns)

which means around 200 is good number to aim for

[sacred abyss]

yeah prob a good middle ground that's (at end game) easy to get

lel still not gems.

those are rune slots./.. for runes or soul cores if I recall

now you see why proper terminology helps with communication lol. Congrats, you finally graduated hs.

lol

[daring grotto]

He said 5 sockets

A 5 socket item

[sacred abyss]

And you said gems

https://i.imgur.com/AEjlaKF.png

you said a chest piece, so when you showed the pic, sure, rune slots. nothing to do with any gem what so ever. Your chicken came before the egg

[daring grotto]

Yup you’re right

[winter swan]

Yo, what does a monk need to get stronger? i heard evasion its the prio stat for a monk right?

[sacred abyss]

Enlightenment. lol

[thorny token]

energy shield then eva

usually

for defense

[winter swan]

okay thx man

[thorny token]

also make sure to grab the trickster nodes if you can

the eva per es on helmet

and es per eva on chest

but yiu probs have them already

[quaint dock]

Which is better lightning arrow or flicker strike?

[winter swan]

trickster nodes?

[drifting cedar]

these two

they are stats that were on the trickster ascendancy in the first game

really powerful for going evasion + es

[daring grotto]

Trickster when?

We have 24 ascendencies (iirc) before full release and about 11 months now if we follow their “within a year” for full release statement. Better start seeing 2 ascendancies a month 😂

[drifting cedar]

24 total or 24 more?

cant remember if it will be 2 or 3 per class

[quaint dock]

Do you guys know any build of deadeye a lil bit tanky?

[drifting cedar]

some people do mind over matter deadeye to be tanky, but it needs hand of wisdom and action to also do damage

[rapid seal]

can anyone here review my gear/build as warbringer totem warr?

[daring grotto]

Think 24 more

Because 6 classes with 3 ea to go then 1 for each current class

[brazen verge]

Is gemling viable vs withchhunter without the super expensive gear? I'd love to choose gemling because the WH seems kinda boring compared to GL but I wonder if I can make it viable without those super maxed out builds.

[worn prawn]

anyone can help me to boost my Spark Stowmweaver? need tips and trick or maybe help to buy new items https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/pjakf0wc

[soft crystal]

has been a couple weeks since ive played poe2, i was following the cold snap frostbot stormweaver build on maxroll. Just wondering if it is still good to run or if i need to change some stuff to stay strong. currently act 2 cruel

[jovial perch]

can someone explain real quick how to proc multiple damage heralds from the merc's explosive shot

[proud sorrel]

Anyone enjoying Avatar of Flame on 2h warrior slam builds?

[balmy knot]

does anyone know how much cooldown you need on a temporalis to get no cd on your blink?

[still rock]

thats like asking if a chair is better than a hot dog

[merry creek]

What is the purpose of power charges for my monk using storm wave / tempest fury? When I have charges i don't see much difference, and when I look at the stats none seem to change

[drifting cedar]

you don't HAVE to do stat stacker gemling. +1 skills and +14% quality is still very good, and you can still focus on just one stat for many builds, getting you higher life or mana etc while allowing for a higher variety of skill gems, gear, supports

I've seen a couple builds, no guides though, of people just doing the 4 furthest right option in gemling and life stacking for pure tank, 90% all res with ~7k life and crazy regen

[rapid wadi]

someone explain shock please "Shock causes the affected target to take 20% increased damage from all sources, based on the lightning damage of the hit. The base duration is 4 seconds. " what does "based on the lightning damage of the hit" have to do with anything? if its a flat 20%

[eternal grotto]

Can you cast Frost Nova through Cast on Crit? It doesnt seem to be letting me

[thorny token]

every lightning hit has a chance to inflict 20% shock, the higher hit the higher chance

[rapid wadi]

so an enemy isnt actually "shocked" until u stack 100% on it?

whats the formula even? 100 damage to a enemy with 50hp is ALOT of damage.. but 100 to an enemy with 300000hp is nothing

[thorny token]

well if you hit often enough you can shock even with low chance

[thorny token]

the formula is explained at the end of shock tooltip

[deft spear]

what support gems should i put into magnetic salvo?

[thorny token]

ailment threshold on basic mobs is usually same as their hp, or at least it was in poe1

and on bosses its smaller than their hp

and should be on poe2db

hmm looks like poe2db is not displaying ailment thresholds yet

[still rock]

im assuming ailment threshold is a function of max life instead of only being tied to life itself like poe1 (e.g. if hit chance to inflict > max life* ailment threshold then ailment is inflicted)

[blissful stratus]

Does anyone know if Hammer of the Ancients snapshots Rage when cast? or do I need to upkeep it until it lands

[thorny token]

nothing suggests that it works any differently from poe1 at least

and only tooltip i found is this that doesnt rly explain much more either

[still rock]

well being able to lower specifically their ailment threshold via things like overwhelming presence just leads me to believe its a separate number that works as a modifier to max life when checking for ailment infliction

[thorny token]

it was separate number in poe1 as well

it was much lower than boss max life in poe1 for example

[runic rose]

Which timeless jewel has circular teachings??

[still rock]

ah fair, forgot abt that

[drifting cedar]

shock isnt like freeze

freeze and stun build up over time and then, when filled, freeze or stun

[still rock]

shock is boolean there is no buildup phase theyre either shocked or not shocked

[drifting cedar]

shock and ignite just have a chance on any hit

assuming that hit has the ability to shock

[mortal gate]

Guys, is the breach ring good?

[brazen verge]

thanks!

[topaz onyx]

Do i need to keep the precursor tablet passives on the atlas tree active after buffing the towers or can i refund my passive and move em to a different passive after to run maps

[upper viper]

Ya think this is enough damage ?

[wicked merlin]

If I add 24% crit chance on a helmet to my build and my current crit chance is 41.2% what will my new crit chance change to?

[thorny token]

heavily depends on your existing increased crit chance

as they are additive and increase your base crit chance

[honest ingot]

Hey what is that passive skill tree node where i get ES back when im hit? ghost dance? i can't find it or what is it called?

[wicked merlin]

Well my weapon has 11.5% on it and I don’t have any other crit added other than passives in my tree in spots, I am confused how it’s calculated.

[crisp star]

so uhh

does mana flare ignite?

since it deals fire damage?

cuz if it does i'm prolly just really unlucky

[thorny token]

its spirit reservation

and yes its ghost dance

[midnight bolt]

does anyone know if considered casting working for meta gems currently is a bug? it says casted by yourself so it shouldnt apply i assume

[thorny token]

yes, all those checks for "casted by yourself" do not work atm

for anything pretty much

lul

[midnight bolt]

but it does work

[thorny token]

well yea i mean its like if they werent there (the checks) :d

[merry scarab]

what annoint should i use for a lightning build

aside from lucky lightning

[honest ingot]

either im hella blind or when i search for the word ghost it doesn't light up on the tree, where is this located?

[thorny token]

spirit reservation

its a gem

not tree

you need uncut spirit gem to make oit

[jaunty flame]

how do you factor in increased elemental damage on weapons compared to physical damage?

is it better to try and get 200% phys instead of 140% phys and 100% elemental, for example?

lets say crossbow

[thorny token]

phys is local modifier so it scales the weaopon phys and that is increased from global values

elemental is always global

and additive with other increases

[honest ingot]

Thank you, I've also been lastly looking for this node in the tree that says u get 2 evasion per ES on helmet do you know about this?

[jaunty flame]

so generally, you want phys + add phys and + elemental?

[honest ingot]

I found it!

[thorny token]

ideally you want triple phys, there is hybriud accuracy + flat phys

but yes doubl ephys and elemental is secondbest

[frigid hill]

How does Grim Feast / Meditate interact with Energy Shield Passives with weapon swap points?
Can I Meditate with more ES passives, then swap to less and keep my extra ES?

[jaunty flame]

im playing a pure lightning build with crossbow shockburst

[thorny token]

double phys + flat of whatever you are plahying as element also works

[jaunty flame]

is it still better to go triple phys?

[thorny token]

subterfuge mask

[thorny token]

yes

[merry scarab]

what anoint do you use?

[thorny token]

because the inc phys scales the flat phys

etc

runes also scale the flat phys

but lightning flat just stays lightning flat

depending on your budget range sometimes weapon with the 3rd flat will beat phys ones etc etc

but on the highest highest end its always triple phys

[jaunty flame]

hmm, even if you convert it all to a damage type?

like shockburst rounds?

[thorny token]

due to runes scaling it so well usually yea

[jaunty flame]

hmm

[thorny token]

example on bows

this is highest dps bow on trade

and dps includes both phys and ele

and as you can see triple phys won

over double phys and 1 flat ele

[jaunty flame]

dps doesn't take into factor increased elemental right?

[thorny token]

nope

but that one doesnt ever win thats only good on mid budget if you find it

[jaunty flame]

so this is my current crossbow, listed it at 20 just so i could see what the site says on dps

would this one be a significant upgrade?

[thorny token]

yes

it even has +6 levels on top which even though attacks scale badly with levels

its still bunch of damage

[midnight geode]

guys is there a reason to overcap on accuracy or should i not worry as long as this says 100%?

[thorny token]

well are you melee or ranged

[midnight geode]

ranged

[thorny token]

then yes

but you have plenty already so you should be fine either way

[jaunty flame]

thanks @sinful spoke

oops

wrong ping

[midnight geode]

aight

[thorny token]

but that tooltip is completely useless for ranged builds

[jaunty flame]

thanks mr deathbeam

[thorny token]

as it do not shows penalty values

[midnight geode]

lol whys that

oh

[thorny token]

you get up to 90% less accu penatly at range

but i think with your accu you are good

[midnight geode]

i have a passive on deadeye that removes penalty idk if its worth

[thorny token]

ah, nah

that one is pretty shit imo

[midnight geode]

yeah thought so

[narrow bane]

not a fan of this node

grenades with a fuse time under a second feel best

[midnight geode]

also, idk why but my stormcaller arrow shocks a lot less often every since i got this passive..

im using it to shock, then swap on crossbow and its frustrating when it doesnt shock

[thorny token]

well do you have decent bow for it

and running conduction?

[midnight geode]

its pretty good, im still in t4 maps on this char

[midnight geode]

yes

[thorny token]

oh do you have only 2 arrows

on the stormcaller

[midnight geode]

wdym?

[thorny token]

does it shoot 2 arrows

when you shoot it

[midnight geode]

yeah

[thorny token]

yea then get rando bow wit some damage and +1 arrow

because with 2 arrows it does V shape

so you can miss stuff you are aiming at

by accidentlike that

very easily

with 3 arrows there will be 1 arrow in middle

and 1 on each side

so you wont miss

[midnight geode]

i dont miss often

but even when i dont miss, it doesnt shock the target 100% of the time

when it shouldve

[inland nebula]

Is there a way to quickly import your build into a build planner to show someone without manually doing it all lul

[thorny token]

thats odd because in t4 maps and with that bow and conduction it should pretty much always shock

[midnight geode]

ill try and get shock chance on wep set 2 maybe

[upper viper]

Not yet

gotta do it the hard way

[thorny token]

oh you dont have it? yea def get it

the shock duration nodes are also nice

i forgot its name but i was grabbing it on similar seutp before

rattled

very gud

[inland nebula]

I will promptly begin crying as i am a lazy bum

[upper viper]

POB will be out, when game is out of EA

[thorny token]

it will be out in like a week lul

so way sooner than that

[upper viper]

Didnt he say when it was out of EA at first ?

[crisp star]

anyone tried if mana flare can ignite stuff?

[thorny token]

well it changed, i think teres some post somewhere that it will be on 13th

[crisp star]

cause i haven't seen it proc once on mine. dunno if i just kill packs too fast with it or it really can't

[upper viper]

me happy then

[mortal gate]

Guys, a divine orb can change the tier of a modifier?

[jaunty flame]

though i will say

[midnight geode]

yeah i got that, btw is res penetration good? I can trade some of it for shock chance

[jaunty flame]

now that i've changed to +6 skills

[midnight geode]

or should i trade crit chance instead

[jaunty flame]

im having mana problems but the boss should die before i actually run out of mana

[thorny token]

its good, but going above 50 is not super useful

most of the time

endgame diff 4 bosseshave 75 resses

[jaunty flame]

hell this video never crops properly

[thorny token]

but most other content has max 50

[midnight geode]

i probaly go to like 100% lol

[thorny token]

and pen cant o below 0

[jaunty flame]

thanks for the help mr deathbeam (breach pinnacle boss)

[thorny token]

nice :d

(no secret bonestorm technology tho rip)

[still rock]

I finally sat down and did the weapon set points for the sigil swap, and holy shit it really matters a lot lol 31s duration sigil

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/tonvo0vp

[jaunty flame]

bonestorm?

[thorny token]

bonestorm adds a lot of flat damage to attacks with the debuff on high levels :d

[still rock]

you bonestorm weapon swap with pure int before damaging to stack the phys dmg debuff

[thorny token]

lik you were buyin 116-464 phys crossbow right, and bonestorm goes to like 3k :d

[still rock]

im imagining they make bonestorm debuff minion only soon lol

and that damage gets added to crit so you can do deaths harp 8 frenzy barrage snipe and one shot him

its stoopit

[thorny token]

yea that flat just workslike regular flat

so everything applies to it

[still rock]

not sure how theyll balance it but it's definitely an oversight rn

[jaunty flame]

hmm im playing mostly shockburst though

i'm playing the doryani prototype build

tank my lightning res with ventors

[thorny token]

they can just nerf the level scaling

[still rock]

its just a weapon swap tech to add flat phys dmg with the debuff

[thorny token]

20% per level is not normal

[still rock]

doesnt matter what your main damage comes from really

[still rock]

tru

[jaunty flame]

hmm

bone storm tech huh

[thorny token]

well it does because the debuffs are limited, would be way better if it was only plasma and not shockburst

[jaunty flame]

i could slot out herald of lightning

[sturdy python]

Hi guys what's better for Minions in terms of dmg:
10x 30lvl skele with 69 inc dmg scepter or
11x 31lvl skele without scepter dmg bonus?

[jaunty flame]

ah no

if i wanted to do plasma 1 shots

[thorny token]

dont drop herald ever :d

[jaunty flame]

can't exactly proc

herald in most pinnacles

i was thinking of swapping

[thorny token]

ah on boss sure

[jaunty flame]

yea

but shockburst is

[still rock]

oh youre skill slot capped

[jaunty flame]

too many hits for bonestorm i feel

yes i am

i have all this and overwhelming presence

[thorny token]

on es eva builds you are pretty much always capped on skill slots i feel

[jaunty flame]

yes you are lmao

wind dancer + grim feast + ghost shroud + herald of choice

thats 4 slots gone already

[thorny token]

yea lul

[jaunty flame]

im missing the last core component of my build

astramentis

[still rock]

i randomly am running an unset ring because it rolled giga chaos res and fire dmg and i still had two free slots lmao

[jaunty flame]

after i get that, i'm circling around to get a proper rolled time lost diamond

[thorny token]

wish i could get chaos res

[jaunty flame]

im not sure if damage scales better with flat lightning or attack speed with HOA

im doing the typical lucky lightning + wild storm

this was a budget buy

[still rock]

im really bummed that all of the spirit buffs for non-armor defense types are just free, having the conditional to break armor for the armor buff is pretty cheeks

[thorny token]

dex def better

as the dex on howa is way more op

[still rock]

ar/x hybrid just getting shafted everywhere

[jaunty flame]

dex > int on HOA stat stacking?

[thorny token]

tthan the flat lightning

and especially on shockburst

with fresh clip

[jaunty flame]

[shadow badge]

yo imaa doing the acensian trial and i teleported back to town and i dont have the lil key to get back in the trial, what do i do?

[jaunty flame]

im having mana problems with the new +6 skills though, don't think i'll drop any intelligence for the time being

[midnight bolt]

has anyone tried buffing hammer of gods with high lvl bonestorm yet?

🤔

[thorny token]

only in acts with my brother

worked well at least there lul

[still rock]

no reason it wouldnt be good

[thorny token]

yea

[jaunty flame]

dont get me wrong

i love my crossbow

[hybrid ocean]

Anyone know if multiple identical auras stack?

[midnight bolt]

it should be enough dmg to oneshot 6 man max diffculty xesht

[jaunty flame]

but im not anywhere near the level of

[midnight bolt]

[still rock]

they do not

[jaunty flame]

some shock stormweaver

casually farming the entire map

wish i could do that

[thorny token]

yea well spark is op

[warm delta]

Does "damage penetrates % fire resistance" proc/work if an enemy doesn't have fire resistance?

[thorny token]

but also you can do hoi + hot

right

[jaunty flame]

blink + astramentis moment

[jaunty flame]

im intrigued

tell me more

[thorny token]

its basically just putting cold supports on hot and lightning supports on hoi

and getting enough damage on them

and then they just chain of eachother

[hybrid ocean]

Damn. But what about similar auras?

[thorny token]

theres bunch of yt vids for it i believe

[jaunty flame]

hm i'm already chaining off

my herald of thunder

[hybrid ocean]

Such as multiple allies with different scepters that grant the same stat

[still rock]

as long as they arent the same name

[jaunty flame]

that will guarantee my herald giant booms though

[untold roost]

is the gloves that convert fire dmg to cold applied last? apparently fire damage is bad and that's all I've got atm

[thorny token]

its applied all at same time

[still rock]

oh you mean the presence affixes from sceptres?

[hybrid ocean]

Ah- But then that's presumably aura name, not item name, right? So multiple "Allies in your presence have X" from copies of the same item should work, right?

Yeah

[untold roost]

so does a passive boosting fire damage affect the end result cold damage?

[still rock]

hmm idk id need a minion guy to chime in im not sure

[thorny token]

no

[hybrid ocean]

And from Fixation of Yx

[still rock]

you could probably test that though? can you see the minions buffed dmg with your one sceptre?

[jaunty flame]

oh

[still rock]

and then equip the other and compare

[jaunty flame]

i dont think i can get this to work

on witch hunter

[thorny token]

hmm why wouldnt you be able to

[jaunty flame]

need to shatter right

i think i literally only do lightning damage with my current build

[thorny token]

yes thats waht cold/llightning infusions are for

you shock with your main damage, you cold infusion your hot, it freezes, you lightning infusion your hoi, it shocks

[hybrid ocean]

I was more so wondering about something like multiple party members wearing Fixation of Yx

or you wearing one with this

[hasty tangle]

do crits affect the damage of ailments like poison and burns?

[thorny token]

yes

[jaunty flame]

ok wait you've actually piqued my interest super hard

[hybrid ocean]

The magnitude comes from the damage of the hit that applied it, so yes and no

[still rock]

not sure about the first instance but iirc the second doesnt work with fixation according to a reddit thread from last month

[thorny token]

you need semi strong setup for that tho so your heralds do enough damge but yea

and bunch of generic scaling but thats alraedy on the herald nodes anyway

[jaunty flame]

hmm

do i still need overwhelming presence

[thorny token]

well it helps

its basically pseudo 31% more damage for ailments right

[jaunty flame]

hmm

maybe i take off plasma burst for mobbing

and then i slot in herald of ice

[thorny token]

its worth a shot at least and see if you can get it to work

but when it works it works

[hybrid ocean]

Ok, then I'll report back whenever I manage to test it lol

Cheers

[jaunty flame]

hmm

what do i put on it

decisions decisions

[thorny token]

well the freeze/shock supports an damage ideally

you want freeze supports on hot and shock supports on hoi

[jaunty flame]

so glaciation + cold bite

[thorny token]

glaciation ice bite cold infusion i think yea

and then on hoi lightning inusion innervate and i guess magnified effect and conduction?

[jaunty flame]

alright lets give it a try

[worldly field]

Is it possible to have a witch Dr in demon form with minions?

With the 7-8 ascendancy points - was wondering if something like that would be worth it vs -25% life reserves into mana shield

[narrow bane]

check em

[jaunty flame]

uh

doesnt seem to be proccing

[thorny token]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lightning-arrow-farmer-fubgun?widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiJhZDgxYjEzZi0zNzAxLTQ0NjAtOTNlMS1kZjVkNDkyOTQ0OTkifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0 hmm maybe check what fubgun is doing on his deadeye then maybe i missed something when explaining

but should be same concept for crossbow merc

[jaunty flame]

aint nothing happening chief

[thorny token]

oh cold pen on hot maybe

[thorny token]

yea hot needs to be freezing and it isnt atm

[frosty chasm]

how do you increase survivability on chaos innoculation invoker monk

[hybrid ocean]

HoT and HoI also want concentrated and magnified effect respectively

[jaunty flame]

ah yeah here's the problem

[frosty chasm]

also is that harry measurehead

what the ufck

[thorny token]

yea thats expected

[jaunty flame]

im not getting any freeze procs

[thorny token]

the cold will be much lower

[jaunty flame]

ah well, failed experiment then

[supple goblet]

how can i make a spell cheaper/free so i can use it with a cast on crit? i currently go oom when i do that

[thorny token]

well you are not that far if you are getting 36% on rares :d

but yea would probs require more effort to actually make work properly

[jaunty flame]

im playing teh

the doryani prototype build

think i just 1 tap everything regardless

[upper viper]

Is that a body armour ?

[thorny token]

yea the hot + hoi is mostly for coverage as they can chain from eachother

so you one tap whol screen when it works

[jaunty flame]

hmm

seems like i'll have to change too many things for that to work

maybe if i wasn't playing the doryani build

[thorny token]

yea maybe

[torpid gorge]

Hello, can someone please enlighten me how the hell am I supposed to deal with ranged physical dmg as a sorc? I am currently plowing through maps IF I don't stumble into packs of ranged mobs. These mfs just melt me instantly. What am I doing wrong or how can I combat that?

[copper lily]

ice wall

or just get more ES

[torpid gorge]

thats for melee dmg tho

[torpid gorge]

4k ES atm ( although only relying on it due to passive on passive tree, so no HP. )

[pearl sluice]

anyone can tell me how to make stormsurge passive i cant seem to find it my eyes are hurting from all the zooming in the passive tree

[copper lily]

what's your main skill

I admit most of the sorc memes rn seem to be just using Spark so you're doing something wrong if you can see the enemy

[tidal carbon]

On mobalytics when there is red and green on the skill tree what does that mean am new to it

[copper lily]

weapon swap

[torpid gorge]

Ed/contagion on blue packs or rares but generally spamming hexblast as I got blasphemy with curse auras around me.

[copper lily]

oh, what level are you rn

[pearl sluice]

stormcharged*

[torpid gorge]

ye, seen that, wanted to do something different than the boring spark builds going around rn.

[torpid gorge]

81

[jaunty flame]

my normal farming experience looks like this anyway

i was interested in the hoi/hot tech cause it makes it way better for breach

[copper lily]

damn, that is really different lol

[mossy wave]

fork doesn't seem to work on staggering palm's buff, is there a reason for this?

[copper lily]

I am currently considering swapping my Witchhunter to ES-based staff lmao

leveling an invoker in late acts rn and realized the invoker ascendancy actually doesn't give that many things

might be able to just salvage my witchhunter and get a staff build with Sorcery Ward and Witchbane

[spring prairie]

Running into same problem, only solution I’ve found was to blow them up from way out of range before going close to them

Don’t ever enter enclosed areas without prefiring into them first you will get overrun

[upper viper]

i love blasphemy XD
Slows them down quite a bit

[jaunty flame]

sorcery ward is like

hella ass

cut half your armor AND evasion

for elemental damage resist

[torpid gorge]

I agree, tried to sort of shoot EDs blindly in the direction where the ranged packs are, but yea,... the fact that GGG wants ranged characters to play zoomed in so much is completely stupid imo.

[copper lily]

it would be good if Witchhunter could actually get life. The funny thing about cutting your armor in half is that armor is useless, and you're now getting a defensive layer that's actually quite good, except it only works vs elemental.

[torpid gorge]

why do I have to be so zoomed in?

[jaunty flame]

and its like

so ass

its 30%

[torpid gorge]

100% love that

[jaunty flame]

and it says you can quality it

but you cant

[copper lily]

Sorcery Ward is cool

[supple goblet]

how can i make a spell cheaper/free so i can use it with a cast on crit? i currently go oom when i do that

[jaunty flame]

because its a skill from ascendancy

so it cuts your armor and evasion by half

[copper lily]

Sorcery Ward would be good if Witchhunter could actually build life

[jaunty flame]

but it only gives u 30% back in flat elemental hp

then you get 50% of 30%

which is 45%

and still not 1-1 to what you sacrificed

[copper lily]

it is kind of 1-1 when you remember that armor sucks

[jaunty flame]

i only use it because it saves me from lightning damage on my doryani build

[torpid gorge]

If only sorcs would have that bubble rares have around em to slow down incoming projectiles, that would be fantastic ( and broken,... I get that too. ) lol

[copper lily]

it's easy to get big armor number, but big armor number kind of sucks, but sorcery ward turns big armor number into something that's actually good, except only vs elemental.

[still rock]

use a shield for mapping

[jaunty flame]

but you dont want to get armor

you want evasion/es like everyone else

because you dont get any bonus life

[copper lily]

yep

[still rock]

get like a 45% or higher block shield

ez

[copper lily]

that's why I'm saying Sorcery Ward would actually be good if you could build life somehow

sorcery ward would be pretty damn good if you could build life

but you can't

[torpid gorge]

was thinking about the unique shield that blocks stuff pasively... not sure how that would work in the long run

[still rock]

all shields block stuff passively

[torpid gorge]

oh really? thought you gotta rely on the active blocking ability.

[copper lily]

If I try to shift my Witchhunter to ES/EV, I think I might drop Sorcery Ward, because converting evasion to sorc ward is definitely less of a good deal

[still rock]

active block just makes it 100%

ideally you have a shield thats like 45%-50% block

and then life resists whatever else

i think if you have access to a shield somehow theres no reason not to use it for general mapping as things die anyways and you die to random crap way more often

[copper lily]

the two things salvaging sorc ward currently are:

1. Cloak of Flame redirecting 40% of phys to fire damage
2. sacrificing 50% of your armor isn't actually that big of a downside

but it do look cool

definitely monk

[floral otter]

Wrong channel sorry

[copper lily]

well it's less the monk itself and the staff

staves are so good rn, crossbows so bad rn

[floral otter]

Oh okay!

I only saw 4 builds on maxroll so I assumed monk wasn't that great either?

[copper lily]

If you have a high budget you can go Gemling Legionaire (merc) with staff

[copper lily]

Honestly, you don't even really need a build guide for monk

currently leveling an invoker and it's been the smoothest experience by far

Some people think it's easier to level bow for first ~20 levels and then switch to staff when you get the level 7 skills

[floral otter]

Yeah I first tried a warrior but kept dying a lot and was so confused as to what was happening

[copper lily]

but I actually found staff to be the easiest leveling experience from the start

[still rock]

i leveled my titan as pillar of the caged god with tempest flurry just mainly taking attribute nodes to my regular pathing and it was so easy lmao

then respecced after campaign

[copper lily]

I have heard of people having a good time rerolling Monk after having a bad time as Warrior; I personally think you'll have a good time playing monk after literally anything else, at least during campaign

Gemling Legionaire is interesting rn if you have a big budget

[upper viper]

Thats me :3
Well sceptre XD

[copper lily]

Probably the only viable way to play life-based builds rn, but can also go into ES or mana

[rough notch]

When I use my spark it drains my mana and mana recovery isn’t good enough.. so which should I go for on passive skill tree ? Mana recovery per sec or increase mana regeneration per sec ?

[copper lily]

I am legitimately considering that Witchhunter might somehow be better as ES-based rn

[still rock]

atziris disdain hybrid titan is pretty tanky tbh

im at 3.4k life and 4k es

[copper lily]

yeah I could definitely see that

[still rock]

blood mages are also doing this

[copper lily]

could work with Infernalist too

[midnight geode]

@thorny token is this worth using? I dont feel much of a boost from it, and i could replace it for another one to map faster

[copper lily]

I think Monk is mostly avoiding it because the ES/EV side has a nice passive that gives them bonus EV for every ES on their helm

[copper lily]

I legit only had it equipped for when I ran into reload bug

[midnight geode]

aight ill just drop it lol

[still rock]

yeah eva/es support on the tree is superior to any other hybrid defense type tbh

[copper lily]

what are you replacing Emergency Reload with

I just left it on a hotkey I rarely used

[still rock]

ar/eva nodes are so bad its funny

laughably bad

[midnight geode]

freezing salvo

im using ice shot for mapping with bow and plasma blast + shockburst for bossing with crossbow

[copper lily]

oh

that explains a lot

[midnight geode]

ill kill rares faster with salvo

[copper lily]

I was wondering how you were out of skill slots, but bow swap explains it lol

[jaunty flame]

you use this with fresh clip

[copper lily]

and also explains why reload bug won't be fatal when it randomly happens during ritual

[jaunty flame]

it nearly adds 50% damage

[rancid cipher]

Shock lasts for 4 seconds. If I have a node that reduces this by 50%, and another node that increases it by 40%, how does this work?

Is it 50% of 4 (2 seconds) that's then increased by 40% (2.8)? Or is it 4 seconds reduced by 10% (3.8)?

What about when you introduce something like Temporal Chains that extends the duration of debuffs by 25%? Would that increase of time apply at the same time as everything else, after, or before?

[midnight geode]

idk why but i dont feel the difference on bosses

and i have the +15% dmg gem on it

for empowered attacks

[still rock]

you take the sum, so its 10% reduced

temp chains applies after

[midnight geode]

lol meant to reply to u

[rancid cipher]

Got it ok, so in the case above the result would be 3.8 seconds, and then Temporal Chains (at 25%) would kick in after and bring that to 4.75 seconds? Is that correct?

Also, do you know if the game rounds seconds or do you get the full benefit?

[radiant lake]

So I won’t be home till later but is there anyone wanna help me out with my class monk Seem to be ok but not strong enough First time playing this type of rpg. Best place to farm xp and items gems etc…..

[balmy snow]

is it worth paying 1 div for a everlasting gaze azure amulet on a archmage eldricht battery build?

[radiant lake]

I think my skill tree is all over the place cause I didn’t know till later in the game

[still rock]

correct

to be honest im unsure how poe2 handles rounding for duration but i assume its rounded down to the closest first decimal point

so 2.95s would most likely be rounded to 2.9s rather than 3s (i could be wrong though)

but i doubt a tenth of a second will matter much in the grand scheme of things

[rancid cipher]

Got it, thank you.

Last question, if I cast Volaic Mark, will it stack if I cast it again via Hand of Chayula? If so, does it matter if it's cast with cast on shock?

[still rock]

It would overwrite the previous voltaic mark I believe unless you have overabundance on the chayula+mark gem

I think itd still let you have two

in the case of applying it from another source first

but only if you have that source of +1 limit

[rancid cipher]

Interesting, alright thank you.

[still rock]

rule of thumb for anything that is limited to 1 from my understanding is that it will overwrite the previous instance of the skill, but overabundance should allow the skill to stack even if you sourced it from another gem of the same skill that doesnt have overabundance, but I'd have to test to be fully confident in that answer

the other possible outcome would be that it may overwrite the first instance but allow a second instance afterwards

[sharp basin]

Can someone help me
I am struggling to find a better staff then what I found

[copper lily]

that is a juicy one, exile

I think the phys damage is a bit low tho

+5 melee skills helps compensate for that, but it also needs big mana as a consequence

[sharp basin]

yeah very true

I just dont understand how I see a streamer with a weapon that gives 250k+ damage

similar stats

just from the staff alone

not even counting skills and no +melee skills

[still rock]

probably just huge pdps

[copper lily]

ye

[sharp basin]

250k tho?

thats insane

and im struggling to even get 100k

I'm getting 70k

[copper lily]

Only things that staff are missing, I think, are:

• bigger pDPS mod
• Increased Elemental Damage with Weapons

+5 level is probably similar to a big WED mod, except extra mana used

[sharp basin]

Does Increased Elemental Damage with Weapons increase DPS even without the elemental modifers?

[still rock]

although at top end staffs i think bis might be a gothic with
+flat lightning
%increased wed
%phys/+flat phys
%ias
+crit chance

just from what i hear

[thin basin]

finally got my hands on one of these bad boys

[copper lily]

Increased Elemental Damage with Weapons acts like if you took inc elemental damage on passive tree

but what makes it good is that it can roll big modifiers like +80%

I'm assuming you are running Tempest Flurry

[sharp basin]

this is what hes running

[still rock]

do you know if this increases the bonuses from a jewel socketed in the sekhema rings

[sharp basin]

I'm ice strike

[copper lily]

yeah that's like double the damage per hit

[sharp basin]

so I'm missing increased elemental damage with attacks

[still rock]

yeah thats a fat staff

[sharp basin]

or just the phs

[still rock]

youre missing both lol

[thin basin]

no just got it havent test anything

[copper lily]

360-676 per hit is insane

[sharp basin]

gotcha

so im cooked

lmao

[still rock]

if it does I want one lmao

[sharp basin]

i cant make any money mapping with 50% rarity

[still rock]

i have like 25%

just map

[sharp basin]

I get 1 exalt a map

no divs

im level 89

[still rock]

sell items

[copper lily]

just map until you're bored, then take a break or roll new char

[sharp basin]

No one is buying my shit

lol

[still rock]

lower the prices

[sharp basin]

10 ex is cheap

[still rock]

price to sell

[jaunty flame]

?

I was 0 rarity for a very long time

[jaunty flame]

I made money by slamming exalts on e shield items

[sharp basin]

No one wants my stuff

[jaunty flame]

Ok first of all this sucks

[sharp basin]

I don't know what to craft lmfao

[jaunty flame]

You want money, you sell things that arent weapons

[sharp basin]

Its more expensive to craft then anything else

[jaunty flame]

Amulet, rings, boots, hat

[vapid mantle]

how long do you guys usually wait before reducing price on an item that isnt selling?

[jaunty flame]

Pick up rares

Slam 3 exalt

[sharp basin]

usually a couple hours

[jaunty flame]

LMAO

[still rock]

jewelry is easiest to pick up a shit ton and just spam augs till something looks good

[jaunty flame]

Thats what im saying

[still rock]

and jewels

[copper lily]

when my monk gets to level 67, I will look at trade and see what the best staff I can buy for 5ex is; if it's this one I will buy it

[sharp basin]

No one whats that shit either

[jaunty flame]

That is literally how i made money starting out

[still rock]

ive made a fair amt of money on rolling ilvl 82s

since its such a bitch to get them

[sharp basin]

I cant even sell this

[vapid mantle]

how would you guys go about crafting a white breach ring?

[sharp basin]

its been listed for days

[still rock]

what do you want on it

[vapid mantle]

i want to sell it, not for myself

so just whatever makes most sense i guess

[copper lily]

hot take is to just alch slam it

[still rock]

then probably just transmute aug, see what hits, if its worthless you toss otherwise regal then slam if the regal hits

or just alch lol

[vapid mantle]

so shouldnt use any specific ess or anything then?>

[still rock]

eh maybe attribute

breach rings are stronk for tri attribute rolls cause catalyst makes it fat at 50%

[upper viper]

Wish we could add accent to our UI. Could match my red cores XD

[copper lily]

I think attrib essence is probably better than transmute

[vapid mantle]

cool, thanks guys

[sharp basin]

Anyone I should watch to get better at crafting?

[copper lily]

there's not much to do in terms of crafting rn I think

so few ways to control the outcome

[still rock]

just learn the mod pools from poe2db and know what can roll on what and what affixes are valuable on what bases

[copper lily]

the loss of alts and scours has removed a lot of decisions I think

[vapid mantle]

add qual or try to sell as is?

[sharp basin]

How do I know what to roll for?

Just look stuff up?

idk what sells

[still rock]

lots of price checking

[copper lily]

Personally, I've found that it's easiest to remember how valuable certain mods are when you've needed them in a build

so I have some blind spots rn because there are some builds I haven't played

but if dump a 4ex item into my 1ex tab I'm not gonna cry that much

[still rock]

get exiled exchange 2, learn how to use it to quickly price check for affix combinations so you can see whats valuable on the market

[knotty palm]

Does abybody know interaction between queen of the forest and iron reflexes ?

[still rock]

thats how ive learnt over the years at least

and for poe2 to learn the new value affixes

[copper lily]

rn leveling my 3rd char and I think I have a pretty good idea for valuation under 10ex now, and telling when something is over 10 ex

only blindspot is offensive caster gear, probably

but that is made easier to do currently by the fact that there are only a few meta archetypes

[still rock]

iron reflexes would remove all your evasion for purposes of qotf

[copper lily]

Iron Reflexes is also objectively bad rn because armor is objectively bad

[knotty palm]

So the movement speed is calculated after the evasion

Sadge

[copper lily]

I wouldn't take Iron Reflexes anyways even if you still received that movement speed

with the current state of armor

[still rock]

conversion generally happens before %increased effects, but yeah also armor isnt great rn

[vapid mantle]

i have 3 open rune slots with these resistances. would you guys slam all 3 into chaos res, maybe some all res to sit comfortably over cap, or something else?

[knotty palm]

I have a build that revolves around Trampletoe, 10% MS boots, am a Warbringer with armor scaling, about 15k armor

Not having the best of times in tier 12+

[copper lily]

10% ms boots sounds painful, especially since you have another ms debuff for using armor chest

[spiral jasper]

If you use any of the elemental infusion, and the skill node says "gain % of damage as extra elemental damage (of another element)" would that extra damage have less damage because of infusion support gem?

[still rock]

being chao res capped is very noticeable in terms of survivability

especially with all the volatile plants and random chao spells and whatnot

gain % as chaos etc

[vapid mantle]

would you say my ele res are fine being right at that cutoff though?

should i do like 1 all res and 2 chaos res then?

[knotty palm]

Thats why i was looking at queen of the forest but it cant work in my build it seems, have no idea about another movement speed source

[still rock]

I mean ideally you overcap + 15 for ele weakness but being chao res capped feels amazing from my experience

i think its better to cap chao res before ele weakness overcap but thats preference

[copper lily]

my hot take is replace Trampletoe with Herald of Fire

[knotty palm]

Herald of fire doesnt make the whole screen explode, at least not when i tried, and i scale phys dmg

[gloomy compass]

Quarterstaff witch using crown of thorns for pain attunement, low life crit build?

[copper lily]

hmm

[still rock]

herald of fire doesnt do hit dmg anymore

it just ignites

[knotty palm]

Right now in high density of monster, i shoot once and the whole screen explodes

[copper lily]

ah

[knotty palm]

It works kinda with Herald of Ice to a lesser extent, but only with Gemling

[still rock]

herald of fire is kinda whack compared to hoi and hol

tbh

[copper lily]

I was getting that with Herald of Fire kind of, but I was also Witchhunter with the 10% chance for mobs to explode

getting them thicc ignites

[knotty palm]

Yeah you can if you scale that way, but the feeling of the build, sound and visual with trampletoes and the armor break, really feels good

The armor break AOE fire dmg does pepega dmg, not scalable it feels

[still rock]

its scalable based on the hit since it just converts the phys dmg from whatever source you broke the armor with

[knotty palm]

I tried to use it, does way less than trampletoe

Mostly because it does fire dmg imo and i scale phys

[still rock]

i think trample is also much larger aoe baseline right

like 1.2 vs 2 or something

[knotty palm]

Yeah its 2 metres but feel way bigger somehow ?

[still rock]

probably increased by general area of effect %

both are

[knotty palm]

The good thing about scaling HoI is that you can increase AOE

[still rock]

not sure if area of effect of attacks would work with either tbh

[knotty palm]

Idk how trampletoe scales tbh, i dont think i have any aoe on tree

Herald of Ice has the Attack tag

[still rock]

oh i meant armour explosion and trampletoe

[knotty palm]

Ha yeah yeah

And idk if we have access to some kind of pob yet so idk

[still rock]

herald of fire needs to hit again its kind of poop tier rn

i use armour explosion on my spiral volley warbringer, i cbf to move at 10% ms lmao

[knotty palm]

Less than 10% for me even hh, i use body armor with just armor

[still rock]

when ar/eva doesnt suck mad nuts ill prob go back to that char

the clear speed is insane

but i die to a sneeze

[knotty palm]

Its really weird how fast i die yeah

even with 79% all res, 70% chaos res, i get 2 tapped

[still rock]

once you go es you never go back

its so much tankier

[knotty palm]

Yeah ik but it doesnt really work with the build im going

[still rock]

im doing ar/es atziri disdain on my titan and its pretty nuts how tanky it is

[still rock]

yeah i feel that unfortunately

maybe we'll get better armor support soon

[knotty palm]

Like everything should work together

The armor break giving 60% MORE armor

Really sad about the armor break AOE doing fire dmg instead of phys

[still rock]

its just impossible to scale ehp values outside of phys mitigation because life scaling is locked behind one ascendancy (titan) so it doesnt matter if you have 15000 armor youll still die to everything else

[knotty palm]

When they release the Axe support gems everything will be fixed, for sure

I have only 2.1k life yeah, dont really know how to get higher

[still rock]

yeah its the same for my warbringer

its just not realistic rn to be tanky as Warbringer without the shield and block nodes

[knotty palm]

Ha yeah i also use a crossbow

[still rock]

its kind of a borked ascendancy for trying to do anything outside of block

[knotty palm]

Kinda feel like i hit a wall for current patch

[still rock]

from my experience

[knotty palm]

Well i like the encase in jade, free armor break and double armor break

4th ascendency will probably be the warcry explode corpses if i can ever do it

[neat bison]

I’m not sure if the armor break below 0 node even works

[keen karma]

does inspiration work on cast of ... gems?

[lapis hatch]

Does anyone have From Nothing Diamond socketed could show me the radius?

[knotty palm]

Me neither tbh, im basically rocking a 2 ascedency character

[still rock]

yeah the extra phys 10% mitigation is really nice.. the totem minions kind of mostly suck, and warcry is awkward for ranged

[knotty palm]

My main skill is Fragmentation round, so im not really ranged

[mild basin]

Projectile damage % works for spark like Spell damage/Lightning damage %?

[still rock]

they need more accessible ehp scaling somewhere for non es builds cause its really bad rn

thats the biggest issue, the answer rn is just play es

[knotty palm]

Best i can do is 3% hp

[neat bison]

It’s just insanely odd that they removed all the life but kept all the ES on the tree

[knotty palm]

They consider ES to be the same as Armor i guess

[still rock]

yes

[still rock]

as long as it doesnt say projectile attack damage

[knotty palm]

Not ES = Life

[still rock]

this was the exact same issue in poe 3-4 years ago before they overhauled armor

[knotty palm]

Guess ill level my monk or sorceress while waiting for a patch xd

[still rock]

its like they arent even paying attention to poe1

which makes me sadge

[mild basin]

How much resistence penetration is ideal to get?
Like my spark has 57% already, i know that in PoE 2 there is no negative res, so what is the "good number"?

[still rock]

thats probably overkill for most purposes

its nice for mapping to get that 50% number if you arent using exposure effect for clear so that you can run the 50% ele res map mod smoothly

but also depends on your source of exposure and if you use it during clear

but id assume on bosses youre using exposure and curse effect anyways

[bronze carbon]

👋🏾 for ice shot enjoyers, does this wall tag for Frost Wall mean that ricochet would work similarly to terrain ricochets?

mainly curious since I've been playing on a controller and tornado shot placement is challenging unless on an elite or boss/single target.

mobs also seem to want to target the frost walls lmao

[still rock]

i put fire pen support on my clear flameblast when i run those maps with the extra ele res

[still rock]

yeah im pretty sure it allows ricochet effects

i havent tested it tho

[bronze carbon]

right, it sort of felt like it especially with fireball + frost wall shenanigans too. easy enough to test I think too

[still rock]

yeah just plob ice wall down and pepper it with a proj attack supported by ricochet

youll be able to visually confirm