2┃build-planning

[worldly grail]

Honestly, instant leech seems not great to me. I feel like having a ton of leech over time built up is better than instant leech because otherwise, a lot of your leech will get wasted by trying to overheal you.

At some point, I might make a heavy leech + recoup build that only dies to being 1hit. XD

[royal pond]

decaying hex with curse in Blasphemy doesn't work. is it because it's an Aura now, not a curse?

[opaque sparrow]

If it isn't, it probably will be soon enough 😭

Yes i am aware ty

[worldly grail]

Here you go. This one will just hit with one weapon at a time, but you hit 40% faster while dual wielding.

[opaque sparrow]

Depends on the build

[valid palm]

Does base HP scale with character level?

[restive turret]

question, does projectile dmg or piericing effect gas arrow like it did with poision arrow in poe 1?

[opaque sparrow]

This is really easy to test. Make two characters. Level one to 10

[somber pendant]

So planning a Chayula monk build using 2H mace so i can use hammer of the gods with envenom and corrosion paired with sunder... for clear should i just armour breaker + sunder?

[opaque sparrow]

Dual wielding 2h?

[somber pendant]

id love to but its pretty far away from monk

[opaque sparrow]

Unique gloves 😀

[somber pendant]

then i lose melee skill D=

[opaque sparrow]

Also only 34 points

Plus I'm sure there's great skills along the way

[somber pendant]

1 2h should be fine tbh im getting alot out of monks damage as chaos considering it scales poison

i might try those gloves though, considering another 2h would give me +7 and makeup for the loss on gloves

[valid palm]

Since the amulet doesn't have the shield value, does this mean that 19% increased max ES actually goes towards my own ES?

[worldly grail]

Holy crap. I just read the description on Hammer of the Gods.

[opaque sparrow]

It's a 40% dmg buff

+/-

[worldly grail]

Btw, Obsidian, HoTG would work with your weapons.

Huge cooldown, but 1600% damage

[opaque sparrow]

Oh I know

[frosty arrow]

how does recoup as life works with CI. Will it recoup as energy shield or it just doesn't do anything?

[worldly grail]

And dual wielding causes both weapons to hit for 30% less damage, but if you have 2 of that hammer, that's still 140% damage * 1600%

[opaque sparrow]

Yeap 😁

[worldly grail]

24 second cooldown, but you will RUIN someone's day with that one cast. XD

OOOOO. Okay, new build idea:
Detonate Dead + Minion Pact
Skeleton Warriors + Minion Instability
Cast on Minion Death + Raise Zombie + Minion Instability

[opaque sparrow]

Can't raise zombie from minion death

Lemme show you my build 😄

[worldly grail]

Oh, right.

[red badger]

can i use dual wield as a warrior?

[mystic shard]

how exactly does thsi work? doe sit j ust give u free passive points or?

and what is the radius? if it lets u just skip connections?

[frosty arrow]

it doesn't give you any points, it just creates a zone where you can apply points you have to nodes that are not connected to the rest of your tree

I mean....it kinda explains exactly what it does

so it lets you bridge or skip sections of the tree

[mystic shard]

how big the zone roughly?

kool

[frosty arrow]

I have not seen it in poe2 yet, but if it's similar to poe1 it's enough to skip maybe 2-3 nodes in a line. But it's best use is to bridge to parts of the tree that would otherwise take tons of points to get there

[worldly grail]

Yeah, like skipping over a small gap where you would otherwise have to circle around.

[exotic hare]

is this good ?

[worldly grail]

Oh, actually, the PoE 2 skill tree doesn't seem to have any spots like that near a jewel socket.

Guess it's probably just for grabbing nearby notables without small passives.

[jagged thunder]

this is the only starting choice for bloodmage? or i'm tripping

[frosty arrow]

it can, sure. Think of it as slightly increasing ratio of notables to minor nodes overall

which is value

[thin basin]

yep

[jagged thunder]

bruhh...

[frosty arrow]

only one. Since it's a basis for the...blood mage

[thin basin]

shouldve checked before clicked

[jagged thunder]

oh, i haven't ascended yet

this is from maxroll tree planner

[thin basin]

ah

checked before clicked

[jagged thunder]

yeah but it's still bad. i don't want to play minions so i was looking into bloodmage lol

[frosty arrow]

bloodmage is good for physical spellcaster build. Although, both of witch's ascendancies work for both minions and caster builds. She's just missing chaos ascendancy, assuming some time after release

[thin basin]

its still doable, i leveld with it, had to early spec crit though

[mystic shard]

hows this work on an aura with blasphemy?

no effect? or always works?

[thin basin]

nothing burger of a notable

[queen atlas]

does evasion rating increase modifiers not effect spirit for monk?

[frosty arrow]

what do you mean

what does evasion rating and spirit have to do with each other

[queen atlas]

lead me through grace

[muted umbra]

Does anybody have any examples of builds that actually make use of the split weapon set skillpoints mechanic? I've been looking a ton and couldn't find any examples.

[frosty arrow]

only base values are taken into account

of the item itself

otherwise you'd end up with unreasonably absurd amounts of spirit

[thin basin]

set 1: main damage, split points in damage nodes
set 2: curse set, split points in all curse nodes
grab random weapon for set 2, on boss start, curse, grats now your curse just got 60%~ effect for free!

[frosty arrow]

right now it's tough because so many weapons are missing, and spread is really wide in terms of stat requirements. Best use case right now is mercenary built for melee with a shield, but you'd have crossbow as secondary to apply things like armor break through gas, use flashbangs, etc. Once there's more melee-ranged weapon pairs that scale from the same stats we will see weapon swap build variety skyrocket

[muted umbra]

That's what I felt, and yeah, I knew about the curse stuff I was just trying to see if anybody made a build around mixing 2 weapons and not just Main Weapon + Utility sets

[upbeat igloo]

Question about type of armour and stats. Is there no repercussions with equipping armour and evasion gear while also having int and dex stats?

[thin basin]

i saw a build going xbow and bow

[frosty arrow]

repercussion being you're not using equipment you can scale well

otherwise you can wear anything your stats permit

generally you either pick one form of defense to push exclusively, or if you're one of the mixed classes you stick to your promary two. You generally don't want to have random managerie of defense types on gear because it's a complete waste

[thorny token]

thats also just utility most likely as crossbows use stormcaller arrow for guaranteed shock

[pure fox]

whats the difference between getting a #to maximum energy shield, or just getting straight energy shield, isnt it the same?

[upbeat igloo]

Ok thx

[thorny token]

but i mean idk why would you want more than utility from wep swap its the best use case anyway and will most likely stay like that even if they add more gems

[urban ice]

I'll send dm of a build 1 sec

[vague ravine]

Hey all, kinda new here, but I've been thinking about a build given how ignite works within PoE2:

the way this is worded, it implies that the hit I deal instigates the base damage of the ignite I deal

including crit hits

[thorny token]

yes

[frosty arrow]

+10 to maximum energy shield is flat value. %to maximum energy shield is a multiplier of flat values you have already. Such as from items. And %energy shield multiplies the base value of the shield on the item, it's local

[vague ravine]

ok, so following up on this I want to use this ring and get a, VERY high single hit on a spell with crit (ideally) to then set up a cast on ignite to setup other kinds of dots (either bleed, and or other things) to essentially shred bosses with DoT effects

[strong swan]

Yo guys is there a way to generate power charges on a better way than Lingering Illusion and Reaper's Invocation with Profane Ritual
? Its kind of a pain as a flicker

[urban ice]

https://youtu.be/7mDHws0BUBg?si=ONkIHGY2DRkQA7Ev check out this build

[pure fox]

oh i see, so %energy shield its based on just the item? not total

[frosty arrow]

before you continue I'd like to say that ignite as a primary source of damage isn't great no matter which way you slice it. And building an entire character solely around ignite is just a hard way of doing it

[frosty arrow]

if it's on the item, yes

all multipliers on the passive tree are global

[pure fox]

now makes more sense, so maximum energy shield is so much better

[muted umbra]

Yeah I was looking for combos that basically don't exist rn.

This thought spurred from me looking into Volcanic Fissure trying to find combos but there is very few synergies between weapons AND it's hard to actually support, like, quarterstaves on the warrior side.

[vague ravine]

is it? I've heard that ignite + bleed builds are actually quite strong no?

[frosty arrow]

well, it depends. You want to have high base values for multipliers to give you good returns

[naive nexus]

Stormweaver “can have 2 shocks”… does this stack? So 20% more and then 20% more? So 40%?

[frosty arrow]

if I were to guess bleed would be doing the heavy lifting there. Generally if you want really high damage of dots hit has to be really powerful. At which point you're just killing your target with hits

I'd say if you want a monstrous DOT build poison is the way to go. In which case there's tons of poison builds out there

[vague ravine]

yeah I know poison concoction is kind of all of the rage these days

[thorny token]

yes those 2 values are added togehter

[frosty arrow]

but, for fun factor don't let anyone talk you out of trying what you have envisioned. I have a bunch of pretty weak but thematically fun builds I'm playing

[frosty arrow]

there are some cool poison chaos builds for monk too

[vague ravine]

oh yeah no dont worry I've done this alot in PoE1 lol, since I have currency farmed out now I'm just build planning

and figuring out cool interactions

this was the first one I thought of

[thorny token]

stuff still works like in poe1 mostly

e.g doing multiple ailments at once is bad idea

just like it was in poe1

[vague ravine]

gotcha

how would you compare ignite to other DoT's currently? (asking generally overall)

in theory i feel like it's extremely strong

[thorny token]

imo pure ignite builds are just bad

[spare talon]

Hi, could anyone help me choose body armour for lightning monk?

[thorny token]

but stuff like hammer where you grab bunch of ignite on top

is pretty good and pretty common way to build warrior for example

[vague ravine]

yeah I've seen one build on gemling using hammer + ignite

was like, 4million on a single hit + ignite

seemed pretty cool!

[thorny token]

yea and thats how you do ignite for now at least in poe2 imo

just big hit and then grab a bit of ignite stuff on top

[vague ravine]

hm

well in that case

[frosty arrow]

my favorite thing about ignite is that sources of it are super common and easy to apply en masse, which makes "hit damage to ignited targets" kinda stuff easy to utilize

[vague ravine]

another idea, one of my favorite builds was Relic of the pact life stacking, obviously that item (nor life stacking) exists in PoE2 currently but I am curious about this spell:

[frosty arrow]

I'm sure ignite is indirectly big source of damage on my grenadier, but not from it's own DOT but from multipliers it provides

[thorny token]

flameblast is rly bad sadly because you are locked to the solar orb "combo" to make it playable

[vague ravine]

really?

[thorny token]

and the solar orb combo is just straight up terrible

[vague ravine]

even if I increased the cast time?

[frosty arrow]

I can see flameblast being complete suicide on high tier maps

[vague ravine]

(not with solar orb)

[gray hull]

can someone explain the invoker ascendency perk "..lead me through grace" if i'm reading this right you want an armor with high evasion rating +/or body armor?

[thorny token]

there isnt that much cast speed sources in poe2

compared to poe1

[fleet cloak]

Question. Monk invoker “Lead me through grace” passive skill who is using it? I feel like I could get more spirit without it

[thorny token]

mana is also big issue too even though thats not exclusive to flameblast

[frosty arrow]

you want a piece of chest armor with high base value of energy shield and/or evasion

[vague ravine]

yeah to be fair mana is a big issue for many builds

[frosty arrow]

global multipliers won't affect it

[thorny token]

you dont get more spirit without it wthout using sceptre or alphas howl

it als allows you to use way better chests and amulets its rly strong

strongest invoker node easily

[vagrant oyster]

Maybe but like then u cant use a monk staff lol

[frosty arrow]

what if it's a spell casting monk 😏

[vague ravine]

the reason I was thinking flame blast is that, with enough hit damage I feel like you could get a very high ignite

[frosty arrow]

to be honest that sounds awesome

[vague ravine]

I know hexblast monk is actually quite popular right now

apparently

[thorny token]

theres bunch of good spellcaster setups for invoker

they just get outshined by archmage

crossbows also work well on invoker

[frosty arrow]

hmm, I was about to start chaos chronomancer tonight for funzies. See what I can do. Now I kinda wanna do hexblast monk. It actually makes more sense

[thorny token]

and bows too

[vagrant oyster]

Then u just get a massive boost from using +spell level wand and a +spell damage shield

[gray hull]

i'm a new player but I have a few questions about a monk build i'm planning basically:

• ivoker -> lead me through grace + protect me from harm
• ice strike + charge staff (using combat frenzy)
• ideally the polk ring + herald of ice
• wind dancer + ghost
• this part i'm iffy on which is Chaos inoculation + something like eternal youth or just meditate

[pure fox]

@frosty arrow can you check dm please

[frosty arrow]

a minion monk, fine. Sheesh

[vagrant oyster]

I mean… i guess u got me there but i dont see a point in a a minion monk if its not some weird build to save the investment of the spirit u need for minions

[frosty arrow]

fun

just for fun

[vagrant oyster]

I mean i did monk minion up till like act 3 of campaign lol, its just kinda better than melee monk

[frosty arrow]

I don't know, man. Frost melee monk was my first character and on normal it's complete easy mode. Nothing can even move

it will only require some finer passive tree planning later in the game

[vagrant oyster]

They nerfed freeze buildup in most recent patch, also monk just has 0 clear whatsoever

Up until level 7 skill gem anyways

[frosty arrow]

I've played post nerf and clear is the last issue frost monk has, no idea what you mean. Everything is static and shatters. Nerf was only to freeze buildup after the freeze has occured. You still freeze targets in no time the first time. Which is all you need to wipe the screen

[median kraken]

Based on holding shift on the skill tree, "% increased mana recovery" is additive with "% increased mana regeneration" as opposed to multiplicative with it like it would be in PoE1. Is that accurate?

[thorny token]

increased mana recovery rate should not be additive with it

[vagrant oyster]

What are you freezing with?

[thorny token]

increased mna recovery might be but is that even a stat

[frosty arrow]

mana recovery includes mana regeneration, but is not limited to it. How would they be additive

mana leech is form of mana recovery, also I'd imagine mana recoup too

regeneration just refers to passive regen

[thorny token]

its not even about being limited to it

[opaque sparrow]

Sorry, i was leaving work and forgor, but this is more or less what ive got on my witch atm https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/4qsa90v4

[thorny token]

but mana recovery rate makes it tick faster

mana regen increases the value

so they cant inherently be additive because its 2 completely different stats and mechanics

[open gulch]

Any idea if this work on wind dancer correctly?

I mean i have ice frost build and i freeze monster

But this support skill dont have any animation.

[thin basin]

what are the chances that enemies will hit you while theyre being frozen

i guess maybe when youre being swarmed

[frosty arrow]

I usually put maim and blind on this, because damage from it is pitiful. But making enemies slow and be less accurate is what you want to escape

I doubt you'd get much value out of biting frost, even if it works

[open gulch]

Wait, so if this skill not hitting then how blind can work?
This work when they hitting us, right?

[thin basin]

i actually think this is detrimental even, if theyre close enough to hit you and is somehow frozen, you probably dont want to unfreeze them

[open gulch]

Wait, i cant put blind on WindDancer

[frosty arrow]

well it has a little aoe it seems, it hits back. But you are trying to give it a damage boost. Which I argue is a bit pointless. Especially considering biting frost consumes freeze

so it will unfreeze whatever is frozen

[open gulch]

I cant put blind on Wind Dancer anyway

[frosty arrow]

here's blind on wind dancer

[open gulch]

Aaa, i have already on other gem.

[frosty arrow]

but honestly, it's hard to find something to put in the third slot. I have maim and blind, and I have poison in 3rd which is also completely pointless

[gray hull]

Q, for the invoker monk perk "lead me through grace" what is the stat prioritization to get the most amount of spirit possible? is it evasion rating or armor? Or do you want a healthy mix of both? I plan on also using chaos inoculation if that makes a difference

[frosty arrow]

so experiment away. But consuming freeze on surrounding enemies by dealing little to no damage isn't a good idea

[thorny token]

lockdown or aoe is very good

can even put expanse there instead if magnified effecet is taken

[torn jolt]

how much do i sell that for if anyone knows ?

[thorny token]

i use maim blind and lockdown atm, if i couldnt use one of those i would use expanse

[soft lake]

Does Lockdown work? Doesn't it need some inherent pin chance?

[thorny token]

oh yea i forgot i have global pin enabler :d

ok then pin support instead of lockdown

[soft lake]

What is the global pin enabler?

[opaque sparrow]

They made leap slam feel terrible 💀

[thorny token]

pin boots

[soft lake]

Ahh

I need to try out Pin in mine, I'm curious to see how it is with no tree investment

[opaque sparrow]

They made leap slam feel terrible 😭

[worldly grail]

Oh no!

Have you tried perfect strike?

[opaque sparrow]

Don't plan on it 😅

[opaque sparrow]

Guess I'll wait for sunder or stampede to enjoy warrior

[thorny token]

perfect strike is rly good

[opaque sparrow]

The auto attack is better than perfect strike

[thorny token]

def one of the 2 warrior skills i actually like

other being hammer

rest feels ass

[opaque sparrow]

Have you tried leap slam?

[thorny token]

yes

also default attack def not better than perfect strike :d

[opaque sparrow]

I been slogging thru the beginner levels of warrior all for leap slam and it feels like shit

Time to go back to monk ig

[worldly grail]

There's also armour breaker which attacks faster while dual wielding and breaks down armour.

[thorny token]

i think warrior feels good if you just dont use most of warrior stuff :d

[static spade]

Do we have a complete view of timeless jewel passive tree?

[thorny token]

boom mace + perfect strike and hammer is rly good build

[restive flame]

why this armor gives me +120% to all res instead of +20% answer me plz ?

[opaque sparrow]

I was only playing warrior for leap slam ngl.

[thorny token]

rip then i guess, all the forced attack time skills feel like ass

[worldly grail]

Hopefully they'll make it better with some patches.

I'm still waiting to get RF back.

[dry haven]

is zombat frenzy the only way to gen frenzy charges?

[opaque sparrow]

What

Oh combat frenzy

[opaque sparrow]

Not the only way

[worldly grail]

Hm...if last gasp keeps skellies alive after minion instability, I wonder if detonate dead with sacrifice will be the same.

[opaque sparrow]

Did you see the crystal set up i sent earlier?

[worldly grail]

I did not. I'll scroll back

[opaque sparrow]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/4qsa90v4

[cosmic arch]

Does anyone know how to increase your spark dmg by a lot

[thorny token]

i used break endurance with corrosion and resonance on my PF for a bit

it worked just fine

snipe also works

i mean snipers mark

not snipe

[dry haven]

ya that would work for most, but this build i dont think it would, trying to figure a way to get charges so i can get 40% skill speed on shockwave totems

resonence is abit far from warrior

[thorny token]

ah yea as warrior kinda annoyng for sure

[dry haven]

if i got my hands on a hand of wisdom and action i may be able to make it work as a stat stacker but not when i need to get all the totem nodes at the bottom of the tree

[civic iron]

Archmage

[opaque sparrow]

Get insanely good gear

[civic iron]

But have fun managing the mana repercussions

[dry haven]

thats my current goal is hand of wisdom/action with pillar shockwave totems dex/int stacking should give me stupid fast firing totems

liek 6-8 attacks a second and 4 totems

[worldly grail]

Looks like a good build, but not quite my speed. I prefer more gimicky stuff. xD

[opaque sparrow]

Spam flaming skulls that suicide into your enemies not good enough for you? 🙃

[chilly mist]

why tf are ppl listing 20 stacks of ex for 1 ex on poe2 trade??

[thorny token]

tofuck with you there is no higher purpose

[opaque sparrow]

Skulls light enemies on fire, they lose hp automatically, they explode on death, if their enemies are ignited, their enemies blow up too. Seems pretty gimmicky to me

[dry haven]

most liekly its a stack of EX in a tab that auto lists for 1 ex

[pearl sluice]

what are some of the best gems on demonform? i now have reduced cooldown thats litterly it xD i am using spark and orb of storms and mana tempest as dmg rota. so idk.

[static spade]

Where do I get to view a complete look of historic jewel passive tree?

[dry haven]

the one that gives 2x uses is mandatory

[pearl sluice]

doesnt that like increase the cooldown tho ?

[dry haven]

yes but the cooldown then happens while your in demon form so its permanent

[pearl sluice]

oh really okay okay good ty

[dry haven]

assuming your a uncapped demon form and not a 10 demon flame

[subtle gust]

Do I want attack dmg or spell dmg while wielding a melee weapon for Monk's Ice Strike?

[atomic halo]

attack

melee = attack

spell dmg does nothing

[opaque sparrow]

Surely you were capable of figuring that one out on your own 😭

[pearl sluice]

yea no i understand. i dont see why ppl even want the 10 demon flame. sacrifising their weapons for what 140 procent dmg boost and 5 levels on all skills ?

[soft lake]

The general rule of thumb is look at the tags here

[subtle gust]

That's kinda what I thought but wasn't sure if ice strike technically counted as a spell with a melee weapon. Idk? 😶

[pearl sluice]

i still have 2 open slots lmao. idk what to do with them xD

[dry haven]

mine are just empty and im at endgame lol some aura gems liek clarity/vitality can fit there but honestly i dont think they are worth it

[pearl sluice]

the vitality is so shit man like 1 procent of your life regen. you are litterly low life like around 200 so really not worth it prob dont even feel it

[opaque sparrow]

Pro tip, if you wanna play flurry, quit your monk and go merc

[pearl sluice]

but i guess i can put them on rather something then nothing lol

[subtle gust]

Idk how I missed it. Lol. I saw that right before I saw your message

[dry haven]

they still cost spirit when you do

@pearl sluice

[subtle gust]

Oh well. That's my dumb question for the night. Good evening gentlemen. Lol

[pearl sluice]

ohhh then no. no spirit for that bs

running blashpemy on this is just way better lol

[soft lake]

It happens! I think everyone who plays POE has missed some obvious text at some point

[muted umbra]

Last dumb question, can skeleton clerics attack or are they just a 'sprinkle them into your comp' sort of thing?

I wanted to try to make a minion build with the brutes explicitly trying to scale how often they generate and attempt to stun.

[subtle gust]

Still new to POE altogether. Coming from D4 is quite a change. But I love it being an avid Souls fan

[pearl sluice]

idk if you know. but if you got blashpemy on and put in the corresponding debuff for me its lightning but do that with clarity and heightend curse you have 2 spirit left so fits perfect

[dry haven]

i have some spirit on my gear so atm i have grim feast, withering presence and blasphemy with heightend curse

only need like 3 more spirit and i can get a 2nd curse on the blasphemy aswell

[thorny token]

withering presence is just waste of reservation dont even bother

that thing is useless

[opaque sparrow]

I have 9 skeletal archers. That doesn't answer your question, but I just thought you needed to know that lol

[pearl sluice]

oh shi okay okay. yea maybe i should invest in some more spirit for grimfeast. prob better if i do

[muted umbra]

I'm trying to avoid the fire/archers build, I know that is very very strong lmao

[soft lake]

Welcome! Yeah, it definitely has more too it than D4 (and POE2 is currently much simpler than POE2, so I'd expect things t only get more deep and complex as the game is developed more), but it's soooo much more rewarding as well

[dry haven]

all minions are kinda meta atm

[pearl sluice]

Why do use no skill gems on grim feast?

[opaque sparrow]

More of a "do whatever you want, it's kinda busted"

[dry haven]

what would i even use there?

[worldly grail]

I mean, I do enjoy that part, but I'd rather have detonate dead on cast on minion death with sacrifice. I'm also still curious if last gasp will keep a minion alive for 4 seconds after sacrifice/detonate dead.

[muted umbra]

Oh lmao

[pearl sluice]

I dont know I am asking

[muted umbra]

Out of curiosity, outside of warrior and witch is there any other ascendency that could work with minions?

[dry haven]

theres not much really useful to put there in reallity

[opaque sparrow]

Probably. Lemme know when u find out

[pearl sluice]

okk

[pearl sluice]

I am using ghost dance grim feast and wind dancer as a pathfinder

what would you reccommend to put on ghost dance?

[dry haven]

nothing, like everything would take some spirit up and that spirits better spent elsewhere IMO

[soft lake]

What supports does Ghost Dance even recommend? Just Vitality/Precision/Clarity?

[opaque sparrow]

Cannibalism

[cyan elk]

I respeced into an Explosive Shot Herald build, but I don't understand why I'm doing way less damage than the guy I got it from anybody wanna help? Sorry for posting here, but the Church of Merc is full

[upbeat igloo]

In theory, lightning infusion should work with herald of thunder as the extra 25% should also work on my other lightning skills?

[naive mural]

What’s better for melee builds? Increase to physical damage or plus to all skills? Or both?

[opaque sparrow]

Gear

[cyan elk]

Nope

[opaque sparrow]

Okay

[cyan elk]

The gear is similar, my dps is a bit lower on my weapon

This is what doesn't make sense to me, I also checked the supports since I don't have 5-links but the difference in damage is like 10 times

[opaque sparrow]

Sounds good

[cyan elk]

Also my heralds don't trigger as much as his

But the only source for elemental ailment magnitude he has is the passive tree

[opaque sparrow]

I think it's highly situational 😅

[naive mural]

Ok, so for like hotg and boneshatter/ stampede for clearing

Trying to find a new weapon but and can’t decide if should I look for highest possible damage or +7 to skills

[exotic holly]

best gems for herald of ice?

[dry haven]

it depends on the skills your using

[opaque sparrow]

What's the difference between level 20 hotg and level 27 hotg?

Or rather, ur current level and +7

[dry haven]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Hammer_of_the_Gods

between a level 20 and a 27 its nearly 2k% more dmg lol

levels go abit wild on that one

[soft lake]

68% more

In terms of percentage increase

Or ~7.7% more per level

[opaque sparrow]

Gemmling seems to make a decent one i think (to no one's surprise, prolly)

[upbeat igloo]

Is there a unique that converts physical damage to chaos damage? Also, In theory, lightning infusion should work with herald of thunder as the extra 25% should also work on my other lightning skills?

[opaque sparrow]

No

[upbeat igloo]

Is that also a no to my other question?

[soft lake]

Yeah, that about sums it up

No to both

[upbeat igloo]

Ok

[muted umbra]

I mean yeah but it's a little difficult to get to the relevant nodes.

[soft lake]

Herald Of Thunder isn't a global buff. The lightning infusion would only benefit the lightning bolt damage

[upbeat igloo]

Ah ok

[dry haven]

honestly the more i look at this build the less and less it seems auras do anything for it

legitly may run kaoms heart

[unique gyro]

Is ignition the best build for warrior rn

[twin orbit]

guys which venom is a good pick for lightning dead eye ranger?

[soft lake]

The best build is the one you're having the most fun with

[soft lake]

Which playthrough? What are the options?

[opaque sparrow]

It's probably fine 🙃

[twin orbit]

first playthrough, stun threshold +25%, 30% elemental ailment threshold increase, 25% mana generation

[static plinth]

Stun or mana, probably mana

[soft lake]

Well in terms of how easy those stats are to get, elemental ailment threshold is probably the rarest. Basically how resistant you are against being frozen, ignited, etc

[twin orbit]

ya that sounds good

[soft lake]

But mana regen is probably the most impactful in general - not being able to sustain mana sucks. But that is something that can be solved with gear

[hallow sky]

does that count then on all 4 reaistances?

[twin orbit]

dont need mana or stun huh

[soft lake]

Elemental ailment threshold is not a resistance boost itself, but the amount of damage you take after resistances will also affect ailments on you. Ele ailment threshold is a futher way to reduce the chance/magnitude of ailments on you

[blissful stratus]

can "empowered attacks deal X% increased damage" be on a warcry weapon swap and not on the damage dealing weapon set and still have effect?

[soft lake]

That might be something you need to test. It should be easy enough to do just by looking at the sheet DPS though

[marsh sparrow]

Hi I just entered cruel mode and I was reading about the resistances penalty and whatnot

I'm just confused with the fact that my resistances fluctuate depending on the area I'm in

Like in an encampment or safe zone I see the -10

Then in a combat zone it goes up by 10

Am I being stupid or

[blissful stratus]

The sheet doesnt seem to be able to read empower damage increases :(

[empty comet]

is it still possible to get the 6th support socket for a skill gem via corruption?

or didthey just make it stupid rare now?

or am i horribly unlucky lol

[dry haven]

yes but its rare, i think same rarity of +1 on all over ranks

[empty comet]

ugh

[dry haven]

peopel sell them if you have the currency

[muted umbra]

I mean honestly

I've seen worse

[empty comet]

ive been looking for one on the trade site for a while, havent seen anything but a 5 socket

[dry haven]

what gem?

[empty comet]

leap slam

ive beenlucky with perfect jewelers orbs and ive been buying 5 sockets for a decent price, but im going on attempt 9 i think

this is already a poor investment compared to what i could have hah, but i really want that 6th slot

when i search for 6 socket skill gems with no other filters i get no results
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/8eJ9XZBHV

so ive got to be doing something wrong

lots of 5 socket results

[dry haven]

na just not a popular skill i think

well popular to 6 socket i mean

[empty comet]

no i mean i searched for any skill gem

@dry haven if you dont mind click the above link and see if you get any results, i cleared filters, selected skill gem, and then 6 gem sockets, thats it

finding plenty with 5

[lone wave]

....people are selling skill gems with socket count instead of the orbs to open the socket?

[dry haven]

i did didnt see any

[empty comet]

there is no orb for 6th socket

[dry haven]

yes as you can use a val orb to sometimes get liek 4 divines

[empty comet]

and yes some are selling, i will be selling several leap slams here at some point heh

only way to get 6th socket is by corrupting a 5 socket gem

[dry haven]

wait 6 socket? you do mean 5 supports right?

[empty comet]

and apparently getting very lucky

no i mean 6

[dry haven]

oh theres the confusion

[muted umbra]

okay so like, +954 HP if you go pure str with this build, not sure if there is a better defensive choice, and you get every minion node on the tree

Better HP than any warrior lmao, if only The Baron was in this game.

[empty comet]

so youve taken it to 5 with lesser, greater and perfect orba

[dry haven]

can only have 5 supports

[lone wave]

"6 link" is a phrase from poe1 where you needed to get a chest piece with 6 slots on it to equip an active skill with 5 supports.

[dry haven]

corrupting one with 5 slots cannot get a 6th slot somehow i messed up when reading you earlier

[empty comet]

im not talking about 6 links

there is so much out there indicating you can

but i admit ive never actually seen one

[lone wave]

people talk about getting 6 because they're including the skill as one of the 6

[empty comet]

i know a lot about the confusion between link and socket, ive spent hours and hours researching this

and ive specifcally even seen 7 link referenced, although its rare

but im glad i didnt keep sinking money down that pit

[empty comet]

what an incredibly stupid and seemingly intentionally confusing way to reference something

not that you made it up haha

[vague ravine]

Hey guys, a bit confused but wondering about a possibly cool interaction, just wondering how poison in specific works, I would (assume) poison can stack with multiple copies of itself?

[empty comet]

its just... why

[vague ravine]

like it did in PoE1?

[lone wave]

because. in poe 1 6 link is how you refer to a skill with 5 supports. so they just kept saying 6.

old habits die hard and all that

[empty comet]

gross

[lone wave]

and waystones are maps. terms dont die easy. or something.

[empty comet]

well hey, you guys are talkin to the elon musk of 5 socket leap slam gems then, anyone interested?

im mostly disapointed i cant actually get the 6th, i really wanted that extra slot, but ive at least got a couple with +1 skill level at max quality, which i guess is as maxed out as a skill gem can go then'

[nimble sun]

Guys, strip away makes exposure stronger or just lasts longer?

[dry haven]

could still get a +1 level on a 5 socket

[lone wave]

How long do you think you can keep Painter's Servant good in a Sorc tri element build, before you need to replace them with some rare gloves and stop dealing all 3 elements the easy way

[supple jay]

does decaying hex not work with blasphemy?

I dont see the cursed enemies taking damage

[dry haven]

it should, but the dmg on its VERY low

[supple jay]

yeah ~150 damage over 8 seconds is ass true

[lone wave]

Decaying hex doesn't support the curse. it supports the main skill.
So you have decaying on blashpemy and not the curses it applies.
My monk tried using decaying Hex with Hand of Cha and the curse spreading support.
Only the enemy I hit with Hand would take decay damage, the other enemies the curse spread to would not.

[supple jay]

oh blasphemy doesnt even have the curse label wtf

does ritualistic curse work then? since blasphemy has the aoe label

[lone wave]

if it says it supports the curse, it works in blasphemy and hand of cha. if it says it supports the skill applying the curse, it wont

[supple jay]

oh ty

[lone wave]

I can use hexbloom but not decay with hand. I can only guess the same logic continues for blashpemy.

[tall aurora]

what are some of the best notables i can get on my Everlasting Gaze for shock stormweaver

[supple jay]

weird yeah it seems hexbloom is the only curse support that says "supports curses" not "supports curse skills"

and then impending doom says "curse skills you cast yourself"

so confusing lol

[dry haven]

im fairly certain it works its just REAL low dmg

[calm forge]

so i'm a little confused about how profane ritual works. it doesn't explicitly state that it's a debuff, and it seems contagion isn't spreading the damage. but minion pact works on it, even tho minion pact states that it supports debuffs. is it intended that contagion doesn't work or am i missing smth?

[jagged thunder]

does this work with cast on triggers?

[dry haven]

minion pact sais it supports damaging skills you cast, that means it works with anything you cast basicly

also its an area effect not a debuff

[calm forge]

yeah, i mentioned that it doesn't say it's a debuff. ig that makes sense, i jus couldn't tell since it's not explicit. ty

[left pine]

Hey all, can anyone help me understand how Atziri and Ghost as a merc help stack ES significantly? It barely gives me more eHP

[sand kelp]

any recs for 1st ascendancy skill as Witch Hunter grenade merc?

[frosty arrow]

go for exploding enemies first. Then when you get next 2 points refund, and go for decimating strike

then for 3rd get exploding enemies again

[sand kelp]

ty ty

[frosty arrow]

which is what I did, and it worked great

[sand kelp]

did you get much use out of voltaic nade? just got it and seems like with only 1 scattershot support in another skill and 2 charges I only use it when all other nades are on cooldown

[frosty arrow]

I haven't, my grenadier built around just explosives. Thematically it's fun, and it works great. I use gas, oil, frags, explosive shot as my trigger, and flashbang as utility and cc. That's it

[sand kelp]

or when main target is stunned from flashbangs

[frosty arrow]

for trash clear I rarely even use frags. I just spam gas everywhere, and armor explosions coupled with ignite blowing up clouds it's one step away from being afk

[sand kelp]

fair enough. feel like I can go all in on the fire build once I get oil, but explosive shot was a game changer for sure. slaps on its own and I rolled a decent dyad crossbow when I saw the act 2 base with +1 shot

[frosty arrow]

everything just chokes and blows up, only need to get the big booms out for bigger targets

[frosty arrow]

explosive shot makes the passive of longer fuse time a big positive actually

because you can stack grenades under boss' feet and then go for the big cajuna chain reaction

[sand kelp]

I assume you put scattershot on gas and not frag then?

[frosty arrow]

there's so many ways to do grenadier though

[copper idol]

There's no way to lower Plasma Blast's charge time other than attack speed (which does it poorly), right? I didn't miss a mechanic/support gem for it?

[frosty arrow]

no, my scattershot is on frag. Gas covers such vast area that it makes no sense to have it there

but you can put scattershot on explosive shot if you want, it's also an option

[sand kelp]

what supports on gas? currently running corrosion/mag effect

[frosty arrow]

armor break on poison, more armor break, explosions, and I think last one for extra poison damage

[astral badger]

can someone tell me why the first wand gave me higher damage on my skill menu? i bought the second one thinking it was an upgrade.

[frosty arrow]

armor break helps with extra damage from a little bit of physical you have in frags and shots

and explosions are amazing clear on their own, so it's a no brainer

[sand kelp]

gotcha. thanks again!

[olive wasp]

Whats better on LA deadeye, +proj or DPS? I have to chose between a 340 dps bow and a 260 dps bow with +3 proj

[astral badger]

anyone?

[tidal jacinth]

Where is the pet i bought? I cannot see it in Cosmetics

[frosty arrow]

That extra lightning damage coupled with higher cast probably gives a better DPS on paper

[astral badger]

Oh gotcha. but overall the second is an upgrade no?

[analog rampart]

anyone have any Life Regen Jewels?

I can't find a single one and I need so many

[frosty arrow]

It depends. It might pull ahead depending on what the passive tree will look like

[astral badger]

my build is a cryo shock stormweaver, with lightning warp

[frosty arrow]

I don't think skill descriptions have very accurate calculations for DPS, at least it's not a complete info given

Sometimes it's hard to say

[astral badger]

in practice, it feels way better

despite the slightly lower cast speed

[frosty arrow]

If you utilize both lightning and cold I can see first wand being better. That's a good chunk of extra damage as lightning. But as I said passives will turn it around possibly. Also, if you penetrate/reduce ice resistances for example but not lightning second wand can be better in practice

Difference in cast speed is marginal there. It would matter if you could just fire off spells non stop in a sustained fashion but it's not how it usually works. I know it's a non answer, but it will depend if second wand is better or not. Play it, try it

[astral badger]

no thats super helpful. im focused on cold pen as well, so thats prob why the second feels better

like im running through a juiced T14 map, whereas before it was a little more of a struggle

[pearl sluice]

Mana is crazy how do u guys fix it? Some skills cost like 500 mana per cast xD

[olive wasp]

Inspiration lol

[pearl sluice]

Its like a must right?

If i want to run high lvl skill

[crimson sonnet]

What can roll +spirit? Only amulet and chest?

[pearl sluice]

Do u guys think blood mage is going to get a buff?

[vague ravine]

I think life remnants might get a minor/major rework but beyond that most of the tree isn't very bad

[frosty arrow]

I think it would be a matter of buffing osteomancy spells more, so it's more fun to use them with blood mage

right now osteomancy spells are honestly so meh

bonestorm is like the only great damaging ability in that category, and it's hard to use tbh

[astral willow]

bonerstorm is too clunky. same with all the channeling abilities.

[red badger]

Does atkspd affects throwing grenades?

[frosty arrow]

it's an amazing supporting nuke in a skeleton build. But trying to use it while you're the only target for enemies is annoying

[celest plover]

hey guys, what build(s) are best for running IIR?

[pearl sluice]

Yeah, and on high level it costs 600 mana and 600 life

Lol

[astral willow]

just not a good feeling to almost lock yourself in place for your best damage. mobs move so much faster than you and getting surrounded is a one way ticket to dying

[pearl sluice]

I would even be fine with the walking, u can cast it quite fast with high cast speed

But the mana goes nuts

Even with arcane surge it feels meh

Im not sure how mana regen works

[astral willow]

are you running mind over matter?

[pearl sluice]

No

[gentle fern]

is herald of plague any good

and is the stored poison in toxic growth pertaining to plaguebearer?

[frozen pagoda]

Been using this during my leveling. Is this unique good for summoner? Or should I try and look for a different chestpiece that gives me spirit somewhere

[woven sinew]

And eventually you won’t even need to use it once you get reavers online. It’s really fun in a crit build though, ngl

[wraith crag]

im getting barely any drops when i have this equipped, am I missing something?

[tender needle]

Dont all weapons/offhands get disabled in demon form? Also how does this result in permanent demon form since 6% hp-regen/s only blocks out 12 stacks of demon form?

[static spade]

Oh? I didn't know weapons get disabled on demon form, it doesn't say on the effect. Also, I plan on putting the limiter on my demon form which let it stay 5%

I'm only after the +skill levels and that casting speed, the spell damage is just a bonus

But yeah, if its disabled weapon and offhand then I wouldn't wanna use it anymore.

[broken ridge]

can someone help me build my bow?

[tender needle]

Yeah thats how it currently seems to work

Main demon form builds rn are to drop max-life to ~200, stack a bunch of regen and then get to 600 demon form stacks for 10,000% increased spell damage to one shot bosses (or lower cap around 200 with a bunch of energy shield instead to survive mapping better)

[short vale]

anyone tested/pushed a blood mage minion build with full brutes/reavers/priests?

i know detonate is great right now

[static spade]

Going back to hellhound then and reserve more life, starting to regret going infernalist.

[tender needle]

Its a really fun build once u get it going, demon form is just very specific with the requirements to use it properly.

Can always opt into a minion infernalist as well though

[hexed vessel]

whats the average phys reduction for invoker monk with and Protect me from Harm

[past wind]

Is there anyway to make any dot crit? Like can ignite or bleed critical hit somehow?

[tender needle]

Pretty sure all dots can crit in poe2

[static spade]

The one that attracted me to go infernalist in the first place is because I like to be an all fire spell caster. But now I wish I went monk cause I'm mostly using Meta skills

[past wind]

So can that trigger mana flair?

[hot dew]

does anyone know if freezing shards are viable for frost sorc?

[static spade]

But gaining that extra spirit through is not so bad

[tender needle]

Thats still possible, just kinda need to setup all ur gear/passive tree to survive high demon form stacks and then u can run w.e. fire skill u want. Maybe a 10-demon form build can be good too, I just havent seen it

[rough quartz]

Any help on why my tempest bell keeps randomly vanishing on summon happens like 50% of summons of it

[past wind]

So critical hit and critical strike from damage over time is different?

[dry haven]

maybe im not knowing something, but isnt this beyond bad now?

[static spade]

The weapon disable thing is a big turn off for me since I also plan on using fireflower. Self inflict fire damage on my barrier and cast my barrier invocation for fireball, I'm also running Cast on Minion death and spam fire storms and Solar Orb.

[past wind]

I wanna try that with spirit stacking monk someday

[dry haven]

even with spirit stacking youd only get what 4-5?

you can get that without using all your spirit

[frosty arrow]

4 or 5 artillery ballistas sounds awesome

does it apply to them?

[past wind]

There are some unique gives damage based on how much spirit u have

[dry haven]

thats unreserved right?

[past wind]

No, total spirit

The unique shield

[frosty arrow]

you have to have unreserved spirit to use this

since they reserve 100 spirit while active

otherwise it would be busted beyond belief

[dry haven]

thats spell damage theres no spell totems atm

[tender needle]

Yeah u wouldnt have enough spirit for all that. One of the devs said that no weapons in demon form is probably a bug so with some luck it gets fixed in the upcoming patch.

Although I also wouldnt be surprised if it comes with a nerf since demon form is a little overpowered rn

[past wind]

It doesn’t say anything about reserved and unreserved tho

[past wind]

Yea thats the one

[frosty arrow]

it says they reserve spirit

how do you imagine it can work

you need free, unreserved spirit to summon them

[past wind]

Yea totem will reserve spirit, similar to some minion skills

[supple jay]

does whispers of doom work with blasphemy?

advanced info doesnt tell me anything

[dry haven]

honestly spirit seems so bad for totems im tempted to run kaoms and just have none

[past wind]

Kaom with that chaos damage totem? Forgot the name ?

Dark effigy

[dry haven]

dark effigy dosent really do anything with health though

[past wind]

Oh

But chaos damaged totem isn’t it?

[dry haven]

ya its a chaos dmg totem so what??

[past wind]

With the chayula monk

Wouldn’t be okayish idea?

[static spade]

They can honestly nerf the spell damage I would still use it as long as the weapon isn't disabled

[dry haven]

it might work but probably not great, as alot of the chayula stuff involves leech which totems cannot do

[past wind]

Oh

[frosty arrow]

begone

[dry haven]

imagine automating a game so you can play less

also probably not a great bot if its capped at t13 lol

[wet mango]

@final jolt ^

[calm forge]

why doesn't swift affliction give profane ritual more damage? what support gems actually work for it?

also why doesn't extraction work on it? it's not a persistent, minion or triggered skill

[celest plover]

does cooldown recovery rate effect the recharge of sorcery ward?

[naive mural]

How does increase damage, runes and quality calculate? All of it is calculated from base weapon damage ?

[wet mango]

It does not, since it's not a cooldown

[wet mango]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1321237459987726366

[naive mural]

Thank you

[wet mango]

So to compute weapon damage, you take all the flat, then apply all the modifiers. This includes quality (which gives "more phys damage")

This gives you a final weapon damage, which is treated as "flat" damage when computing your overall skill damage

[molten blade]

is there a way to see if a weapon would improve your damage without actually using it? Everytime i see a weapon that is potentially better, its turns out worse after purchasing it..

[wet mango]

Do the math

If you have An example we (I) could help you work through it

[molten blade]

any source for damage formulas?

[wet mango]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1321237459987726366

[molten blade]

also considering it can be hard to find out how certain skills scale exactly

ty

[wet mango]

It's basically just flat > conversion > modifiers

[muted umbra]

I ended up poking at the idea of Gemling Legionnaire minion build, unfortunately I don't have a good pulse on how much tankiness would be good for a build like this. Goal is to stack strength for HP (gemling gets double HP from str) with enough dex to wear evasion armour and buckler/evasion shield.

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/mgsyu0vw

[wet mango]

Like what? I think most things are pretty understood, if not immediately obvious

[molten blade]

i was very confused about how gas arrow damage worked when detonated, poison damage? fire damage? apparently scales with physical? I understand now but it didnt feel logical at all

[celest plover]

fire dmg, all your phys dmg converts to fire

[wet mango]

If you look at the explosion tab on the skill it should be straightforward

(the tricky part is realizing there's an explosion tab.....)

[molten blade]

that still confuses me. so should i go physical or fire, or is it both the same in the end?

[wet mango]

Well "scales with physical" is perhaps missing the forest for the trees a bit. It scales with your attack damage which is all the flat you have, including weapon damage

Then, any physical damage in that sum, would be converted to fire according to the skill.

[vernal ruin]

hi guys, can you recommend a good monk youtuber to follow for end game guide pls ? I’m lvl 78 new player and still try to understand some stuff

[wet mango]

If you (hypothetically) used a cultist bow with it, that only dealt chaos damage, the explosion would scale off that too and do a big chaos explosion. None of it would convert to fire

[celest plover]

now you've confused me lmao

[molten blade]

you had me up until now xD

[wet mango]

💀

Which part is confusing @molten blade @celest plover

[celest plover]

i think i got it now

it takes all your weapon dmg, flat damage etc, and multiplies(?) it by the attack damage portion

any phys dmg is just converted to fire

[wet mango]

The skill lists an "attack damage" scaling factor right, and that scaling applies to ALL your flat damage

[celest plover]

is it ONLY flat dmg?

[wet mango]

Wdym

Modifiers come after

[celest plover]

or does it take into account all the % extra fire etc etc

[molten blade]

so physical damage can be any element basically?

[wet mango]

"Gain as extra" is a type of conversion which happens after skill conversion (and scaling)

[acoustic oxide]

Is this worth the 2 divines?

[celest plover]

i mean like, hypothetically 20% lightning damage on a ring

[wet mango]

Wdym "can be any element"

[wet mango]

20% incr lightning damage?

Or gain as extra

[celest plover]

increased iirc

or like any of the passive nodes

on tree

[wet mango]

That's just a "modifier" which gets handled after conversion

[molten blade]

or is chaos not an element?

[wet mango]

Chaos is not an element

[molten blade]

ah okay

[celest plover]

like if your bow has 1-10 lightning dmg, and you got a some passive nodes that do %inc lightning dmg...does it do that math first, and then do the attack damage multiplier?

[wet mango]

Well passive nodes can have incr, more, more maximum, and gain as

[wet mango]

Multiplication commutes and associates

So the order doesn't mtter

The order ONLY matter insofar as conversion may make some mods apply or not apply

If your attack damage modifier is 150% and you have 100% incr lightning damage on the tree, you get the same answer taking your 1-10 lightning dmg through one or the other first

[celest plover]

i think i understand you

[wet mango]

You can just do the math right
10 > 20 > 30
Vs
10 > 15 > 30

[celest plover]

gotcha

now conversion, for gas arrow explosion....conversion reads that the stat being converted cannot be scaled and the new stat is how you scale it

so like any %phy damage wouldnt scale the explosion?

[wet mango]

Correct

[celest plover]

so like that build fireball build that converts fire dmg to cold

getting any % fire dmg is worthless

[wet mango]

I recommend reading through the examples here
#1321237459987726366 message

[celest plover]

in that first evasion calculation, where is the "* 3" and the "* .3" coming from?

for i think the 170% inc evasion and wind dancer

nop nevermind i got hte first one

for the 3 stages

[wet mango]

Wind dancer is 18% more per stage, we have 3 stages

Yep

.3 coming from amulet

[celest plover]

but the + .3?

ah

[wet mango]

With 30% incr eva

(point is to illustrate that global mods on gear just combine with tree mods)

[celest plover]

gotcha

[mortal cloak]

Fast Forward or Persistence?

[worldly oriole]

Noob question. Ignoring the other stats, what would net more damage between these 2 wands, wand 1)80% spell dmg, or wand 2)27% spell dmg+19% damage as cold+20% dmg as fire?

[fallen mirage]

is it possible to make a spell caster or melee Mercenary, using the gem-centered ascendency?

[mortal cloak]

Yes

[inland pelican]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/explosive-shot-witchhunter-build-guide
is that legit?

[mortal cloak]

Monkling and Archmage Gemling

[mortal cloak]

frost strike monk can get 500k? sheet dmg on frost strike

monkling

[fallen mirage]

so Merch can be a better Monk than Monk? 😄

[mortal cloak]

Also, new Grenadier build dropped. 200% more dmg modifier than traditional merc tree set up and ready to take a lot of prime nodes depedenant on what you need as you level as it's set to my current level 89

[mortal cloak]

Idk how good real monks do but monkling is like the best gemling atm I think or archmage version people are theorycrafting, but yea the best gemling/merc build isn't a crossbow/range user lol

[wet mango]

Almost certainly 2 unless you have a lot of other gain as sources

[inland pelican]

does attack damage/attack speed actually work with a crossbow? or only the normal basic attack; how about the skills (skill speed, affected by attack speed)?

[lethal oracle]

hi all I'm pretty new to this game and if you have time and know anything about a Mercenary Witch hunter than can i ask you for your assistance with my build as I'm still learning... thanks in advanced

[wet mango]

Wdym attack damage works with cross bow?

Skills which are attacks use your weapon damage

Attack speed modifiers affects both attack and reload speed on xbows

Skill speed just applies to all skills

[inland pelican]

well, if I increase my attack damage & speed; does it affect the skills I'm using?

[pearl sluice]

How much overcap do you need for maps, -15% to deal with ele weakness? Does that get stronger or amped in higher tier maps?

[inland pelican]

sure, I'm playing that as well, lvl 82 now

[lethal oracle]

nice one.. feel like jumping into a chat and look at my build

[median kraken]

It affects attack skills

[lethal oracle]

ill be in help room 1

[inland pelican]

so, no? not ammunition / projectile skills

[wet mango]

Those skills are attacks, so yes

[inland pelican]

thanks ^^

[wet mango]

It affects the reload

[pearl sluice]

You can't shock if you use Kitoko's current unique right? (lighting damage from hits contributes to electrocution buildup

[wet mango]

Sure you can why not

It doesn't say "instead of shock"

[inland pelican]

I was just comparing builds and noticed I had more attack speed, yet the other lad had more *skill speed * ^^

[pearl sluice]

true

[magic stag]

can ggg delete acc. stats? my god i hate that mod so hard

[wet mango]

Skill speed is attack speed for attacks

[inland pelican]

🫠

[void granite]

Any of you gents or ladies reccomend a specific creator for a spark build that dominates? Trying to find the absolute strongest version that is known

[median kraken]

Strongest version depends on the budget. But I know Crouching Tuna and Captain Lance have guides for different versions on Maxroll and they're both very good build creators. Crouching Tuna's is Cast on Shock Lightning Conduit while Lance's is pure spark, I assume Conduit's got better boss damage but don't know for surr

[void granite]

my budget is upwards of 300+ divs

[median kraken]

I know Lance's build has some high-budget tips and he spent a lot of time optimizing the character when he was playing them. Not sure about Tuna

[void granite]

alright ya im looking into lance but his maxroll guide doesnt seem to have the high budget stuff on it. ill keep looking around! thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPxEDqow9X4 I found this person. They're a very small creator but the build seems high end.

[fickle thistle]

Is Evasion good enough on its own as a defence without Acrobatics Keystone? (Including capped res and having 3-4k life)

[median kraken]

Know nothing about them, so no idea how good a build creator they are. But you can see if they have any ideas that seem worth trying.

[ashen zephyr]

Hi does anyone know why clarity support gem isnt working on my demonform?

i have enough spirit, but slotting it in doesnt increase my mana regen

[dire beacon]

Is it possible to make a chaos spell based chayula monk?

[sharp osprey]

Doing a perma demon witch summoner build with raging spirits and I cant tell which would be a better gem for the spirits; fire infusion or infernal army. They both seem to kill kinda samey speed? Hard to tell. Can someone with experience or a theorycraft autismo chime in?

My second gem (only have two slots for now) is for 25% attack speed, not sure if I should swap that out either.

[midnight bolt]

is ele invocation bugged? i have 1080 max energy and it stores only 3 comets, even tho it should b 5?

[dreamy kindle]

will stat build get nerf if no ill play it

[celest plover]

how would we know

[astral willow]

unstable+infernal. They don't live long make it work to your advantage

[river snow]

have capped res as stormweaver, suggestions on what runes should i get? still have slots, just started mapping

MoM + EB + CI

[broken ridge]

if i annoint this with doomslayer will i able to change it?https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1308613925885051050/1322870447389282304/image.png?ex=6772729c&is=6771211c&hm=1c011f5b39156717ee8f7a83b1da531a6cfde93e6ea725cf1ec7f384436ea3b8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[mental dagger]

is it ok ignore elemental resistances and go add elemental damage and crit as long as you don't invest in element pen right?

[calm forge]

what's the difference between mana regen and mana recovery

[wet mango]

?

[wet mango]

Regen is a form of recovery

[mental dagger]

sunder my enemis node of monk

it says the crit ignores non-elemental resist of the monster

[calm forge]

why does arcane blossom say mana recovery and all the other nodes say mana regen then

[mental dagger]

question is, i don't invest in elemental penetration so

its good to invest on that node right?

[dark saddle]

fubgun recommends a fire quiver, does this mean that fire quivers are best for this build or is it just his best quiver?

it's an electric arrow build

[shell temple]

I’m trying to upgrade crit invoker ice/lightning weapon. How do I balance between how much physical damage I get versus crit chance on the weapon? I’d love to get high rolls on both but limited on div.

[pearl sluice]

What should i do if im getting stunned too much?

[frail pollen]

I corrupted my amulet and nothing happened, is this always the case or did I get unlucky?

[dire beacon]

Can you link the guide

[balmy fable]

@thorny token for clear with the tri herald setup, how do u get the herald of ice pops going -- the lightning damage from herald of thunder right?

[dark saddle]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/fubgun-live-starter?weaponSet=set1

[dire beacon]

The base of the quiver doesn't matter until you hit maps, just look for physical damage, and increased damage with bow skills

• level to projectiles might help but it could leave you out of mana

[dark saddle]

got this atm at lvl 36

[dire beacon]

yeah thats fine

[dark saddle]

alrrr

[faint jungle]

is there somewhere i can see what effects can go on a jewel?

[knotty bison]

What is the best build for Gemling

[unborn vortex]

So, I just corrupted an item, got me lower than the stat req for my skills, i fixed that, but i still cannot use any fucking skills, despite htiting the stat requirements - wtf is going on?

[severe drum]

is the skill dependant on having a different weapon?

it should tell you in red what you arent meeting

wheater it is weapon or stats

[astral willow]

anything you want

[severe drum]

people going stat stacker, looks like the best build, in terms of no risk and fast clearing

I am surprised there is no gemling at 100 yet

[tribal hound]

can i see my total passive points somewhere?

[silver geode]

I see online builds that spec into energy shield & then take eldritch battery, but from what I notice, any increase into energy shield does not apply to battery?

[sacred musk]

Is there a annoit helper for poe2? similar to this onehttps://blight.raelys.com/?

[pearl sluice]

Any tips how to fix getting stunlocked with blink?

Or should i just get rid of it and ise dodgeroll instead?

[faint jungle]

how much evasion should i have before getting acrobatics?

[thin basin]

20k

[rich pine]

How does Ancestral Bond interact with already free totems?
Like, if I can already place 3 totems, does Bond add to it, or does it mean that I need at least 400 spirit to place an extra one?

[lusty surge]

is ignite hard to proc?

i have never played with a fire ability

[thin basin]

If you hit hard enough, very often

[tough valley]

I have freezing mark and conductivity linked to my hand of chayula. But conductivity never seems to get applied to bosses. Xesht in particular. Any idea why?

[lusty surge]

i only have fire damage on my ring

[brisk kayak]

Who would use this ( classes?)
I feel I shouldnt as a warrior ( life is super important)
Looks valuable..

[thin basin]

Then probably not, unless you crit and the mons fire res is low

[lusty surge]

i ignore all element from monsters since i am a monk

and my crit is 55%

[vale frost]

You combine two "Heart" items, with Ghostwrithe, and you can then play an "Infernalist Witch"

[brisk kayak]

The more you know! Ty

[vale frost]

You likley still can play an Infernalist witch, in Demon form, but the life regeneration is harder.

The main idea is the items reduce your maximum health, and the demon form takes your maximum health from you.

so if you have over 25 life regen, and under 200 hp, it should be nearly infinite.

[thin basin]

Ig go into a map and spam ur charged staff and see if any mobs dies with fire on them, sounds like it should be igniting

[warped jackal]

what kind of runes would you guys use on this bow? especially if im having a chaos/poison build

[thin basin]

If its a bow poison skill that flat seems pretty low

[warped jackal]

yea i have nothing else atm :c

[lucid wren]

what level should i be going for mind over matter?

[thin basin]

Atleast 2.5k mana id say with good regen

[thin basin]

Pick up random dualstring you find along the way, trans/aug for flat phys and phys% socket it

[lucid wren]

anyone know what level i should be getting mind over matter at for sorc?

[crystal storm]

this doesnt work? tooldip doesnt change

[warped jackal]

Thanks!! Will do that instead

[thin basin]

I told you atleast 2.5k mana with good regens, doesnt matter what level you are

Grab it with no mana pool and youll just be chain dying

[lucid wren]

if you told me in world chat it got lost while i was fighting

im at lvl 30 with 611 mana and 480 hp. the regen is high enough that none of my spells drain my mana at all. should my mana be higher at lvl 30?

[thin basin]

No, youre not really supposed to go mom early but feel free to try it out

[lucid wren]

ah okay, when i was asking like 2 weeks ago about it in world chat at lvl 20 on my other sorc people were talling me to go mind over mater and one other node when i was like lvl 40 on that one for survivability so i thought it was something that needed to happen sooner. so i should i just be full stacking damage and shock nodes for now? i was originally trying to follow a guide but it seems they are changing things every other day so im kinda lost atm.

[thin basin]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/archmage-spark-stormweaver-build-guide

[lusty surge]

does grim shield recovery count as recharge?

[sweet sapphire]

no

[thin basin]

I personally dont recommend going for it early but again you can always try it out for a zone or two then spec out of it if you dont like it

I didnt touch it until i was 58

[spare talon]

Yo, could anyone help me find decent endgame set for lightning merc? Budget 4 div

[haughty zephyr]

That would be way too OP

[thin basin]

Endgame set as in build?

[mystic shard]

How much is Mektuls Lava damage? Anyone know?

[opaque sparrow]

I'm guessing here, but ignoring their elemental res is probably only for damage calculations, not ailment

[opaque sparrow]

Yes. (To your first question)

[gritty marten]

so, i like using elemental invocation and 3 comets on it XD
would inspiration lower the mana cost of each comet?

[opaque sparrow]

No

[lusty surge]

does having more shield increases the stun i get?

[opaque sparrow]

Wait, yes

[opaque sparrow]

What

[lusty surge]

after i focused on shield i feel like i have been stunned a lot lately

[opaque sparrow]

Have you lost stun resistance? 🧐

[lusty surge]

no

same gear just more shield focus

[spare talon]

Yup, got only the crossbow

It's not for me, trying to help my friend but my knowledge limits me to this - asking for help here

He probably got decent dmg but low resists and life

[thin basin]

Theres this shockburst build going around

[coarse light]

Any free thinkers know if infernal minion would be better to do maps or blood mage build

[fringe sail]

when i reach the cruel difficulty, should i start trading my exalted for better gear?

[spare talon]

Would it cap his resists while making him deal pretty good damage?

[opaque sparrow]

Sure

[thin basin]

If youre struggling why not

[fringe sail]

wish i saved all those exalted i had, but i was a newb, still am tho

[fringe sail]

struggling hard my brotha

[solid gorge]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/89532db6-4794-479c-9ec4-f50f96e61618/builds/b5183a4c-0814-475e-8cb4-db8feaba4705

Thoughts on this?

[thin basin]

Limit yourself to 1 ex a piece in campaign

[thin basin]

If thats the one from reddit should be fine, damage seem pretty good

[opaque sparrow]

I got very confused for a minute

[solid gorge]

Oh there's one on reddit too? I haven't seen it yet! But I wanted to give it a try and spent a couple of days theorycrafting

[thin basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/IogeXw6M0P

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/h6xxmOYdxJ
check out his profile for more vids

[solid gorge]

Looks slightly different from first glance, I think he's using the poison for curses, I saw one that was using Pathfinder with Poison dots dealing chaos, it looks fairly fun as well. The difference with mine was that the poison clouds explode and deal fire instead

Hellhound triggers ignite, triggering poison cloud explosions, sort of similar to DD

[thin basin]

Ya hes scaling the cloud for poison but you can also explod it instead of poison scaling

Hound isnt really reliable for exploding them id say

[solid gorge]

Hopefully fire exposure helps with it but I'll give it a test today 😄

[opaque sparrow]

Fiery death explosions are delayed 🥲

[thin basin]

It move quite slow and is most of the time dead

Maybe not if youre scaling minion levels

[ruby chasm]

For ice strike how massive is +x to melee skills?

[thin basin]

I played infernalist gas arrow so i didnt scale minion levels

Maybe with corpsewade its slow enough and not zoom zoom bow

[static spade]

This is soooo perfect, saved me a lot of passive points. I must have this jewel!

[solid gorge]

Yeah I was trying Kripp's sniper build and noticed the hound igniting fairly often with the command skill creating poison clouds

[viral flame]

Can i make this build with the witch spark? whats the difference between a witch and a sorc?

[thin basin]

Ascendancies

[opaque sparrow]

The sheer amount of Chinese trade spammers i just went thru to buy a caged god...

[thin basin]

Witch doesnt really have a good spark ascendancy…

Unless you like clunk then crit spark bloodmage maybe viable

[fringe sail]

need a mid game(cruel) invoker build

[mystic shard]

can acrobatics and warbringer aoe block keystone.

Block/Dodge aoe effects on the ground, like the forgemasters lava?

[opaque sparrow]

Make one

[brave furnace]

whats better add # to # phys dmg or add % to phys dmg

[opaque sparrow]

Think about it 😅

[brave furnace]

trust me thats why im here

[opaque sparrow]

The answer is "it depends"

[brave furnace]

im in call talking to my friends about it and we cant decide

[opaque sparrow]

💀

How many?

[elder spade]

is 150% rarity found good?

[brave furnace]

im scared to say

[gritty marten]

got a question. is it worth going for crit chance on my passive tree if i'm not stacking crit chance on my gear?

[opaque sparrow]

Okay so let me see if I can help you...

How much phys damage does your weapon have 😀

[opaque sparrow]

Definitely maybe

[ionic karma]

How does herald of ice exactly work?

[static plinth]

Where's this tool on Maxroll

[ionic karma]

As I’ve got the Polcirkeln Ring

But I never see herald of ice Like kick in

[static spade]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/

[ionic karma]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/coc-balls-invoker-ronarray

This is the build I’m running

But Herlad of ice I never see activating

I must have Unbound avatar?

[opaque sparrow]

While active, shattering an enemy with an attack hit will cause an icy explosion that deals attack damage to surrounding enemies.

[ionic karma]

As I’ve got all Beside it

[ionic karma]

I’ve read that too I just never saw it turn on

[opaque sparrow]

If it's on, it's working.

[stoic arch]

Hello guys, does this work with melee?

[brave furnace]

@opaque sparrow

[opaque sparrow]

This has both? Why are you asking which is better? 😅

[faint solstice]

I came across several builds for an Infernalist character, including one with CI and lots of ES, another without ES but using mana to absorb damage, and a more traditional build focusing on both life and ES. I'm new to this game and unsure which build is better for the endgame

[snow sierra]

Endgame the ES hybrit is the best right now

But you can transition very well from

Life > to MoM (Mana thing) > CI > ES without CI

Because a CI, or even a hybrit ES build can be very expensive

Assuming you play Minions

[pine thorn]

Where can i find warrior builds?

For high tier pushing

[trim swan]

Hello, saw this build using BoL + Lightning Warp for mobbing and CoS with Conduit for bosses
The build also runs a scepter and CoC with Meteor and Gravefeast. From my testing the meteor rarely triggers and doesn't make a difference.

Wouldn't it be better to run Mahuxolts instead of the scepter and run spirit on the chest for more mana (dps/tankiness) and replacing the crit nods with damage and more tankiness ? Or am I missing something

[dusk notch]

Is coldsnap chronomancer still viable?

Cuz Im breezing trough campaign but wondering how it will hold up when mapping

[onyx beacon]

Hows does cast on shock actually work at its core? Does it gain energy on every % of shock you put on a boss per say? Or how do people get it to spam cast on monks? Does it need the shock to be consumed at some point so that you can keep building shock? Or is shock an everlasting funnel of energy that applies even if you've reached max shock?

[flat island]

hi! i'm in need of a hand with this build, i'm wanting to run an archmage spark stormweaver build but when i wasn't aware of the meta i chose the wrong ascendancy, are there any good workarounds?

[faint solstice]

yeah i'm playing infernalist, but the ascendancy node for spirit need life which is bit of conflict with CI, so i'm wondering whether go with max life with lots of ES for chaos damage or just go with no ES

[flat island]

i can run it without archmage but the damage is quite low

[thin anchor]

What skill can be used by warrior for single target damage?
Currently i use only base attack, feels like there can be something other

[snow sierra]

isnt the awsner for any caster build atm "dos it have archemage ?" yes !"Viable" no ! "i hope you have a good plan" ?xD

[trim swan]

just needs to shock. Think you confuse shock with electrocute

[snow sierra]

For the CI build you just take the spirit loss for the tankyness, that why you later go into a hybrit ES build with high chaos res

[quaint prism]

rapid shot merc, is there any point to investing in the damage vs low life nodes if i have culling and decimating strike in my asc?

these nodes

[brazen plinth]

I’m yet another person playing the lightning deadeye build.

Other than high alert, what are some good anoints for ranger? That seemed to be commonly taken.

[unique sparrow]

which is better? im trying to think between 2 armor sets, i got acrobatics active btw

[gilded nova]

I lost my Energy Shield, not sure what caused it.
It's 0/0, I play Deadeye.

[dark sleet]

eldrech battery?

[unique sparrow]

are you doing trials of sekhemas?

[gilded nova]

No, I'm in Hideout

and I have 3 pieces of gear with Energy Shield...hmm

[dark sleet]

btw ive seen people with eldrech battery and they have energy shield how is that??

[dark sleet]

there is a stat on pasive skill tree named eldrech battery do you have that??

[gilded nova]

No, I'm a Deadeye, not the route I would go

[dark sleet]

idk maybe a unique does that

[snow sierra]

yes there is

a helm

[dusky stirrup]

Anyone tried Iron Grip/Iron Will with gemling? Does his passive for doubling stat effects work on these keystones?

Source of Iron Grip/Iron Will: https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Irongrasp

[mystic shard]

does Zealots oath convert PERCENT hp regen into percentage of your ES instead when regenerating?

[dreamy kindle]

is it possible to make a LA monk

[undone cove]

Is this a good build guys?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/g0bj0le5

[real kiln]

how do i life leech? can any class / ascendancy do it or is it restricted to certain ones?

[snow sierra]

Its kinda meh, but it can make things substainable

[real kiln]

im playing on a stormweaver sorc

[snow sierra]

For spells mostly limited to bloodmage

[real kiln]

thats another ascendancy right

[snow sierra]

yes

[real kiln]

😩

[snow sierra]

I doubt doubt it worth putting on the leech body on stormweaver

[quick pine]

Hi there if I wanna play Assassin class is there any class that fit to the build?

[amber field]

Someone can send an up to date galvanic shard i can’t find im lvl 63 plzzz

[snow sierra]

there is that if you wanna test around with leech and see if you like it

[real kiln]

that would work but i can't as my build already uses a different unique chestpiece

[twin mauve]

anyone knows if "Gain xy% of Damage as Extra Cold Damage" does anything for physical spell builds?

[snow sierra]

It the only source of spelleech in am aware of outside of bloodmage

[static spade]

Does this mean Another reduction on top of elemental resistance?

[snow sierra]

yes

[static spade]

But do I lose physical resistance on armor?

[snow sierra]

at other stats

from your body armour

but if you mean if armour still works against phys, yes it still works

[static spade]

Wow, this is kinda OP, the only drawback is it's low stat

[snow sierra]

Well its a big drawback for most, and elemental dmg isnt the biggest problem

[livid dagger]

what skill can trigger on blasemy slot? thanks

[real kiln]

what about... mana leech

is that a thing

[snow sierra]

i dont think spell mana leech exist at all

only for melee

[real kiln]

[static spade]

Well I plan on using a lot of those "controlled metamorphosis" jewel so I need to stack a lot of Elemental resist as I can get

Now that I think about it, one armor break and I'm screwed

[faint solstice]

sorry i'm new but what is hybrit ES build?

[snow sierra]

You lean i full into energy shield but dont go for CI, you kinda want very high Energy shield gear with maxed out chaos res for that
the idea here is that you still can use the Life reserve stuff from infernals while heaving the upside of energy shield

[onyx beacon]

Well yea I know that, but when you shock, you shock up to your max shock% which is default.. 20? I think? So... When you're at max shock, do you still count as applying shock with basically every hit? Cause the way I thought it would work was yea, once you apply shock, it needs to wear off before you can re-shock the enemy

[pale tendon]

Hey guys new player here having some issues with my spark sorc and im kinda lost on where to go / what to upgrade from where im at and don't want to waste all my currency anyone who plays archmage/spark sorc able to have chat with me and see if they can give me some advice on what to do im getting 1 shot and shit in t7-8 maps

[trim swan]

Nah. You have a Chance to apply shock which is a debuff. Once applied it can be refreshed at any given time

[mystic shard]

does dmg recoup reset on next hit or stack?

So if you had 100% you WILL eventually get back all the dmg u took? It's just a matter of time?

[onyx beacon]

Okay, okay. So it is almost infinitely better than I previously thought then. That's why monks throw down their bell, with charged staff, in melee range... Getting 3x hits at once, with 4atk/s, and drop 200 comets in 4 seconds

[static plinth]

It never resets, you always get how much it says

[mystic shard]

great thx

[static plinth]

Has anyone tried Couture of Crimson out? Is the max health penalty too much?

[trim swan]

yes. I mean there are dozens of builds doing that.
What you explained is again how electrocute works. And the Max is always 100% at which the effect triggers

[faint solstice]

I see. I think I'm a bit confused about the source of spirit. It seems like the life reserve is the only non-armor source. If I use the life reserve, it basically means that more life equals more spirit. But at the same time, if I have high life, do I still need high ES, or should I just skip the life reserve and get more spirit from weapons or armor?

[woeful cypress]

Hi guys I'm running a LA ranger, what rune should I put on my bow?
Cant tell if it should be phys % dmg or cold damage range

current bow

[snow sierra]

The normal and easyist progression is you go full Life during the campain and early on and cant take those notes anyways, you go MoM Eb, combined with that notes while you are farming gear for a ES build.
After that you have the Option to throw on ghostwrithe for a while and go CI and sacrifice dmg to be able to do t16 maps more save.
Or you keep doing MoM until you have the currency to transiton into a good ES build with full chaos res

Your first note is allways the doggo, then altered flesh so you wont have to care about the reservation while leveling

[trim swan]

compare it to chill and freeze. Chill is the debuff that can be reapplied at any given time and slows the target and freeze is when the enemie is frozen solid for 4s. You can perma chill (slow) as long as you attack but you cant perma freeze

Its the same for Electrocute and shock. Electrocute is also almost the same as freeze

[dreamy kindle]

is it possible to go lightning arrow monk

[sudden axle]

im trying double herald lightning arrow ranger atm, with polcirkeln ring, but not seeing many herald of ice procs, I have 17-29 cold dmg ring adding the chill but still not seeming to work

[faint solstice]

That makes a lot of sense. The CI seems to be a trade-off option to transition to a final stage of good ES gear with chaos resistance. I guess I will stay with MoM and continue farming gear. Thank you for the guidance; this is really helpful.

[snow sierra]

The only reason i would ever go CI on Infernalist is to use Ghostwrithe for a while, that would make the Reserve notes kinda bad anyways so you might as well go CI, it would be a way to force a energy shield build kinda cheap. And its one you can make if you feel like your dmg is insane anyways and you want more tank now

[hollow hedge]

Can someone explain to me what this ring actually does

[sudden axle]

it makes things shatter when chilled rather than frozen.

but its not working for me lol

wonder if they need to be 50% chilled (max) and not just partially

[thin basin]

means youre not hitting with enough cold damage

[sudden axle]

the mobs are chilled, like 7-20% when they die

so I guess they have to be max chilled?

[faint solstice]

This is a great suggestion! Having just finished the campaign, I had no idea about trade or gear prices. Now, I am clear how to proceed.

[thin basin]

if they are chilled when they die then they should be exploding when you kill them

[sudden axle]

they are 100% chilled when they die thats the issue lol

so im assuming it must be 50% chilled

it works when I use freezing salvo but not with the added cold attached to my lightning arrow

[thin basin]

can you take a screenshot of the mobs when they die?

[sudden axle]

I mean, before or after they are dead lol

there is no cold explosion if thats what youre wondering

[thin basin]

no if they are shattered when they die they shouldnt leave a corpse

is what im trying to see

[sudden axle]

yeah they are leaving corpses

[thin basin]

chances are you might not be doing enough cold damage

[hollow hedge]

Is them not leaving a corpse relevant .-.

[thin basin]

try using ice shot?

[mystic shard]

Why do all the keystones suck a gargantuan mega tonne of ass?

Eldritch battery doesn't stack with %ES modifiers, so ur just gimping your ES.

Zealots Oath doesn't work with ES max% for % life regen, and there is almost no way to increase max hp.

Eternal youth is just pretty garbage tbh, and apparently doesn't even work with Zealots.

Heartstopper literally just seems like kill yourself faster.

Acrobatics kill ur evasion rate, Bulwark has Iframes so you're literally just trading 100% dr for 30% dr, I know aoes, but cmon.

Unwavering 200% stun threshhold for being unable to dodge....?

[sudden axle]

like I said it works with freezing salvo but not my lightning arrow with added cold (from rings/quivver) so yeah the amount def might be the issue

but the mobs are being chilled from the lightning arrow, 7-20%