2┃build-planning

[glacial steeple]

thats what I'm wondering

[snow sierra]

you dont you force the items

[opaque haven]

2.4 ES and 2.8 mana

with Battery

[glacial steeple]

so I take the class I want, and I play with whatever I get until I can buy

[snow sierra]

cause if you dont play hc you dont care about beeing weak

[opaque haven]

But ES is still available as a game mechanic after taking Battery, right?

[snow sierra]

yes, you play a class that farms fast without needing a unique and mostlikely have a group to do that with

if you wanna be the top 1%...i not understanding what you asking here

[glacial steeple]

I'm asking because I dont know, didnt play POE1

so I dont know much, trying to learn as much as possible

[snow sierra]

try to be more specific with what you wanna do, cause at the beginning it not sounded like "i wanna be the fastest and farm fast to corner the marked in a new league"

And play like days without sleeping

[magic pier]

combat frenzy with resonance

[snow sierra]

just to be ahead on leaguestart

[glacial steeple]

I wanna figure out what class to play on league start so that I dont fall behind and reach a point where all the good items suddenly cost a ton of money and I cant get them cause the prices went up

thats what happend to me this time

I played too slow, and prices went up so fast

prob because of the bugs

but who says it wont happen on release as well

[snow sierra]

rarity played a huge part there as well

[neat bison]

It always happens but it may not be to the same degree

We have to see how they handle rarity

[snow sierra]

but typical its ahrd for a normal person to be on the curve

[spring temple]

there's no real soluton for that, and next wipe there will probably be some other thing that makes it feel like this again

[snow sierra]

because the marked juicers dont sleep

have a group

and just go so hard the frist days

[spring temple]

tbh the questions and problems you're asking for help with are very broad so answers are hard to give

if you want to be protected from that experience you just described, try to identify a good build that doesn't require any specific uniques at all to function well in endgame

[snow sierra]

a class wont help you there alot, its more like having the time, and the community to do it

[vast egret]

blasphemy with hypothermia or arctic armor for cold sorc?

[spring temple]

as Nischana said, minions are pretty good for that forever

[neat bison]

The answer is blast until you get money to fund your reroll

[thin basin]

deadeye bow zoom zoom and no sleep for the first 5 days of reset ezpz

[spring temple]

then once you identify a better build you want to play and ALSO have enough currency to get it online, you can pivot/reroll

[snow sierra]

or start with a ranger and start blastig and take that leveling loss

[glacial steeple]

but arent I locked in the class by then?

[spring temple]

that's what reroll is for

[glacial steeple]

I see

[spring temple]

if you don't want to risk a reroll, then you need to already know what class you're planning for in advance

which really depends on what they add to the league/wipe

but once you pick a general class, each one will have some skillsets that are easier to level with than others

and then you just pretend ascendancies don't exist

so you can pick the "right" one when you're ready to pivot

[snow sierra]

And you search for save bet builds before you know the league changes typical

[glacial steeple]

exactly what Im trying to do, wanna plan a head, figure out whether I wanna reroll or stay in the class

[snow sierra]

you dont know the changes so you cant do that

[spring temple]

the real answer is you'll never know, lol

you can plan around a ranger for a million hours and then you see some cool skill/unique for monk and go

"damn now i wanna roll a monk"

[glacial steeple]

I agree, but once I have some Idea in my mind I can look out for the changes and see how the class is buffed/nerfed before release

[fast temple]

whats a good evasion chance to have after taking acrobatics? im at 75% is that solid?

[snow sierra]

Well minions are a super save bet for boss power

and ranger is allways a good bet for mapping

[spring temple]

i think if we knew that the current classes were all that was going to be in for next wipe, then it'd be easy to say "yeah just pick Monk" or something

but we have no idea what the next wipe/league will include

if you pick templar/witch/monk (int classes) then you can be close enough to minion nodes to just roll a minion build for league start

[snow sierra]

and if we are honst build dos not do mutch here any build will escalted if you are on top

its more putting the time in

and abusing the marked

having ppl that share stuff with you and bugs you need to abuse

[glacial steeple]

I see, so far I've play Merc and felt like he fell off a lot by Cruel 2-3
Sorceress felt weak early until like, Cruel 2

[feral turtle]

how does pyromantic pact (infernalist) interact with mind over matter?

[snow sierra]

ye but you dont care about leveling at the end

its not who gets there first

if you dont race atleast

[bold pulsar]

Hello! Quick question. If an enemy is standing on my flamewall, will the ignite keep refreshing? And keeping my "recently" buff from ignite up?

[spring temple]

they will keep getting ignited yes

[snow sierra]

You need to just get there and farm and maniplute the marked

[glacial steeple]

But sorceress feels complicated for me, that's why I want something that is also strong (maybe not the best) that is not super complicated

[snow sierra]

like the best thing you can do is try to learn from the marked right now and try to build a community

[azure forge]

So much is going to change before release I’d say concentrate on what you find fun for now.

[analog patrol]

how to get decompose skill?

[snow sierra]

boots

drabon89

corpswalker

[spring temple]

yeah i would ask this question again when we find out what the next league start will be

if you want overall ideas of how it currently works, everyone except warrior has something that can eaily carry you through the campaign and start mapping on

[neat bison]

I would think it doesn’t interact at all, but I haven’t tried the combo. Infernal flame is just super underwhelming and bad IMO.

[snow sierra]

but if you want easy i rly recommend minions, its not the fasted farmer tho

[analog patrol]

how to find them?

[orchid acorn]

What are some ways to shorten the fuse on grenades and increase their duration??

[glacial steeple]

Thing is I'm not finding maps fun with Sorceress because its so complicated

[snow sierra]

buy them in the marked

[analog patrol]

name>

[azure forge]

Start a new char, see if you like it.

[glacial steeple]

I dont want easy, I just dont want super complicated lol, with sorceress, everynight I sit for like 30 minutes and try to think how tf do I optimize my skill tree, cause the build I'm following because so different because we have different items and shit

[azure forge]

I’ve rerolled like 9 times, best time to do it is EA

[analog patrol]

What is the name this boots?

[snow sierra]

corpswalker

[glacial steeple]

You're right

gonna do ranger

[snow sierra]

but thats what poe is about a good skilltree

[analog patrol]

corpswalker doesnt exist

[snow sierra]

and cool builds

Corpsewade Iron Greaves

misstyped them

[azure forge]

None of the stuff we’re doing is going to matter, it gets put into its own EA area and we start all over again.

Have fun just trying out new classes. Heck roll a melee just to memorize boss battles (this will be key come release)

Other than that look at it as beta basically

[glacial steeple]

I'm trying to figure out which classes dont require uniques to be strong

cause some classes get super strong with uniques but I shit without

[azure forge]

For leveling? None of them tbh

[snow sierra]

Minions for sure

And Ranger mostly needs a good bow

[azure forge]

They’re nice to have but leveling is pretty easy

[snow sierra]

is more like picking builds that dont need them, then a class

[glacial steeple]

wdym? don't you pick build based on the class?

[snow sierra]

like if caster totems come next league that could be rly strong

not allways for example

every class can do minions

and be fine with it atm

[neat bison]

Generally I think you think up a build and then what class suits your needs best

[snow sierra]

i was doing chronomancer minions, the ascendency dos absolutly nothing for minions

is it optimal ? no but it could carry me until i switch to something better

[glacial steeple]

that makes it more complicated lol, so can you give me an example of a build that you think that is not minions?

like you think to yourself, I want to perma freeze and deal massive boss dmg

and you just look at what can do it best?

[snow sierra]

dude if making your own build is to hard you wont make it into the 1%

[wet mango]

i mean you have to leverage synergies and stuf in this game. Merc is feeling strong for me all through T8 maps, and it shows no sign of stopping. Not playing the meta builds either, homebrew

I don't think there are "uncomplicated and very powerful" builds

[glacial steeple]

I see, can yall give me an example of the proccess of thinking a build and finding it?

[snow sierra]

Maybe use the time you have to learn how to make builds and identifiy strong ones

[glacial steeple]

is it like the example I gave above?

[wet mango]

everynight I sit for like 30 minutes and try to think how tf do I optimize my skill tree,
that's kind of the point of this game haha

[snow sierra]

Well you look at a skill that you think it could be strong

[glacial steeple]

Would you recommend I do that just by playing different classes and following builds or try to do builds by myself?

[neat bison]

Well one example is Hammer of the Ancients and Chronomancer, you click long cooldown and then instantly reset it.

[vale sage]

is there a way to see the shock chance of a skill

[wet mango]

i just started with whatever, I wanted to play merc and crossbow so i did, experiment with different skills, found i liked glacial bolt, then think a lot to what would synergize with it and how to path on the tree

have respecc my tree several times

[wet mango]

it's based on dmg, not fixed

read the tooltip on shock

[warped jackal]

Anyone have crossbow (railgun) chronomancer in mind? it would be cool to make Hit from dbz, shooting and blinking with time freeze

[vale sage]

then what do shock chance nodes on passive tree do?

[snow sierra]

i would recommend a mix, try looking at builds and what makes them work, try to understand how mechaniks works, and then try to tweak the builds. And maybe then try to make one yourself

[echo briar]

Guys i manage to Cracft a great Set of Armour and i dont know what to do with the Sockets in my Build

[wet mango]

increase your shock chance

[azure forge]

Trial and error honestly

[wet mango]

if your hit had a 8% chance to shock and you have 200% incr chance then it has 24% chance to shock

[vale sage]

so each hit has a variable chance to shock based on dmg then i see thanks lol confusing

[snow sierra]

And inspiration for builds can be diffrent, in your case it might be, how do i make the fastest farmer possible, given the next league buffs "x"

[median kraken]

In Path of Exile 1 most people start with the skill they want to build around. PoE2 builds tend to use more skills, but a lot are still built around one main skill, or maybe a set of related skills (e.g. "ice quarterstsff abilities" or "lightning crossbow"). Occasionally a build will be based around unique items or a way of scaling (e.g. Archmage or stat stacking with Hand of Wisdom and Action and Pillar of the Caged God).

[snow sierra]

If you think movement speed is important ranger might be the play, if you think its all about bossing, maybe minions ? or a new skill comes out that you think could be busted

[calm forge]

i have a couple questions about channeling speed. does reducing duration increase channeling speed? and does increasing cast speed increase channeling speed? i can't tell from the channeling tooltip and cast speed/duration don't have one

[placid lark]

what order do pierce/fork/chain happen in?

[snow sierra]

I started my build with "I want to play minions, i hate infernalist, only female chars"

and so it came to be that i made my own chronomancer minion build^^

[mortal cloak]

Suggestions on the highest damage gas grenade build ? Hit a wall and doing like 5-6k on my gas nades and idk what to do to get higher but I’ve seen people with like 15-20k?

[empty comet]

whats the easiest way to share my build? is there any kind of 3rd party app that integrates or do i just have to manually enter it into one of the build planners?

[snow sierra]

maxroll thats a thingy for it

i think

[empty comet]

oh they do? nice

[left ledge]

Are totems counted as allies?

[static pawn]

Mobalytics or Lukcy Roll are great websites for sharing builds.

[snow sierra]

yes

[wet mango]

read the tooltip on channeling. I think cast speed affects it but not duration

[wet mango]

pierce first iirc? One of fork or chain says "proj that do the other 2 can't do this" and that one goes last, forget whic hone

[toxic mason]

Leer Cast and The Viled Knight Helmets works for Ballistas?

[bold pulsar]

It seems Cast on ignite doesnt work. I used a 20% quality one, with Impetus for 40% more energy gain. I spam living bomb with the support gem that adds 100% more chance to ignite. During an entire boss fight, the cast on ignite didnt proc even ONCE

[mortal cloak]

I thought cast on ignite would be good with radiant grief since you ignite everything around you constantly but it’s really gutted

[bold pulsar]

Its only ignite done with hits though

So firewall doesnt proc it

But I assumed living bomb would since THATS a hit

[snow sierra]

there was something with ignite potency dependens in the patchnotes

but i cant rember what

[bold pulsar]

Something is definately off

[zenith escarp]

q: does player MF work on pinnacle bosses? On a pinnacle boss, how do I think about going up in difficulty vs more player MF?

[snow sierra]

I think it works, you just gear up your MF gear :x

gear without rarity is not gear atm...it feels like

but i heard up to 200% its rly good and from there its tapers off but thats only one source

[bold pulsar]

A few people in chat said that a good sweetspot is 156%

Not sure why

[calm forge]

okay. i thought i read it, but maybe the one on the skill page is less detailed than the one on the passive tree. i'll double check thanks

[gleaming trout]

does shaper of winter let you build freeze w/ non-cold damage?

[winter vortex]

is there any way I can make pain offering target specific?

[tidal totem]

Any advice from you all?

[old shuttle]

What other neg Lightning resistance exists for Doryani? Ventors, the range allocate jewel. Anything else?

[vale sage]

which is better: 5k ES, 2k mana with MOM, 1 hp with CI but elem resists all <25

or 2.5k ES 500 hp, but all elem resists capped with 37 chaos resist

[forest monolith]

if i upgraded to a big dps mace in act 3 normal is tht probly why im not stunning as boneshatter anymore it also does have implicit stun buildup but same with my older mace for some reason others stuff i changed whould be the conc ground leap slam close combat mace strike new mace i exalted and ended up with a big 373 lol old was around 200 220 also have raging cry but fact my old mace seems to insta stun too hard to figure out

[vast folio]

if a weapon has 3 modifiers, how do I add the other 3?

[forest monolith]

if its a rare exalted orb adds more at random

i found a tip for stun thing def seems tto be fact i exalted big dmg molten strike scattershot can be used for now to stun

[atomic halo]

exalt exalt exalt

[forest monolith]

was 90% no flat exalted small flat 5 to `10 with big hybrid 126% after so makes sense

[atomic halo]

nothing else you can do

[orchid acorn]

How can I extend gas grenade duration?

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Im an idiot

I forgot to activate cast on ignite

[gritty plank]

whats bis for armor gems/soul cores

[bold pulsar]

No wonder it didnt work for me

[snow sierra]

lol^^

[gritty plank]

are max health good for warrior?

[azure forge]

What website is lucky roll?

[atomic halo]

maxroll

[azure forge]

Aaaah got it thanks

Even googled it hahah

[orchid acorn]

Is there a way to extend gas grenade duration?

[analog kiln]

Hey guys ihm where can I find out what legendary is suitable for my build , like is there already a database ?

[inland pawn]

what are best Jewels for Mercenary Galvanic shard build

[tawdry echo]

reload, life, attack speed crossbows

[static pawn]

Whoops meant to say maxroll lol

Apologies

[median kraken]

You can find a list of all the uniques on poe2db.tw, but most builds don't want very many uniques. Most uniques right now are either very niche or only useful as leveling gear, or some are just bad.

It's not like a lot of other ARPGs where your goal is to eventually have all legendary gear. In PoE most builds use mostly rares

[dense wadi]

Hey guy! So I’m missing an orange item and whispered to everyone on poe2 trade site with no luck… what am I supposed to do?

[surreal kindle]

my bf is getting the game so should I make my second character ranger or sorceress. My main one is witch

[brisk vapor]

I had the same issue, whispered everyone but noone answered. But the moment I whisper someone with a little more expensive price they instantly answered

[dense wadi]

Problem is, the most expensive is like 3 exalted, but the level of those are too high for me to equip 🥺

[brisk vapor]

Go to filters and look at the requirements tab, there's an option to set the max level to whatever you are

Unless there aren't any in the market at all

[hollow perch]

does anyone know if its possible to block with quarterstaffs that arent barrier base? Can I get block onto pillar of the caged god somehow?

[hollow perch]

which item?

[dense wadi]

Just had the idea to ask on global and I was lucky enough to find one 😍

[brisk vapor]

Nice

[hollow perch]

ah cool you found one, was thinking I could give one away if you couldnt find it

[dense wadi]

This.. if you have a higher one and wanna trade lmk

[hollow perch]

nah min is worse

both of them lol

[dense wadi]

Ouh oke

[twin needle]

Is there a recommended item database? I want to find stuff to help me get more skeletons

[vast egret]

whats a good curse for cold sorc other than hypothermia?

[vast folio]

hmm, how does the death storm command on the skelly mage work? it's always greyed out o.o

[tidal copper]

Of course the Poe 2 Data base
Or Poe 2 db for short

[brazen hamlet]

+Poison x 6 stacks
+Bleeding x Aggravated
+Duration (Both)
+Magnitude (both)
+Increased stun buildup
+Projectile damage
+Attack damage
+Chance to bounce off terrain
+3 Projectiles when forking
+Attack speed
+Area of effect for attacks
+Maim for attacks
+Quiver bonuses

Using a Dualstring bow running the Fork/Lacerate Support gem x Tornado shot to magnify Forked shots.
This is what I have been having fun building lol

[fast eagle]

Can you use spirit gems with acolyte of chayula or the darkness reserve removes that option

[thorn dragon]

I dont see the crit rate of skeletal arsonists anywhere, do they not crit?

[autumn star]

are there any class-specific Discords, like for Sorcerers only?

[honest ingot]

pierce in poe2 only pierces 1 enemy?

[twin needle]

appreciated

[wanton sonnet]

Any1 needing help with summoner or end game map progression tune into stream and ask any questions you like.
Twitch.tv/grandpadankins

[wet mango]

energy gain depends on str of ignite now iirc.

[wet mango]

are you doing lots of damage with living bomb, the energy gain depends on strength of ignite

[mortal cloak]

yea the way they did it it makes it borderline useless, it was supposed to be at least good against bosses

I can run a full focus ignite build with explo nade/shot/gas nade and radiant grief and im igniting everything constantly and cast on ignite only goes off like ONCE PER MAP

[wet mango]

yes, but you have to actually apply meaningful ignites

[mortal cloak]

it's so fucking bad it's ridiculous lol

[wet mango]

are you actually igniting

outside of radiant grief

[mortal cloak]

Yea explo nade sets off huge ignites and so does gas grenade explosion I think?

Cuz ignite just happens based off how much fire dmg u do right?

[wet mango]

there's a "chance to ignite"

even if you 1 shot them you only have a 25% chance to ignite

at baseline

you need to 4x them to reach 100% chance to ignite

if you don't spec into it

[mortal cloak]

Yea that's why I'm saying it just doesn't seem worth it

[serene shell]

anyone know a good warrior build?

[mortal cloak]

it was supposed to be nerfed against trash but still decent against bosses but even against a boss I only gain like 50% charge for a cast to go off from an entire HP bar off a boss

[thorny token]

most of the triggers actually are better than boss than before but ggg always misses with stuff that is actually based on damage you do :d

so coc and cast on ignite

[mortal cloak]

Anyone willing to sell me a perfect jeweler's orb and/or some like level 22-24 skill gems?

[thorny token]

yea trade site

[wanton kayak]

Hi if you use grim feast and the passive that converts es to mana, does it regen mana?

[wet mango]

max level 20....

[verbal summit]

if i use mana catalyst on ring with mana regen and max mana it applies to both?

[urban vessel]

does % increased energy shield modifiers affect energy shield gained from Everlasting gaze?

[mortal cloak]

Oh the 24 and stuff I've seen is just from +level skills 😮

Wasn't sure if there was like level 22 in the max +4 or whatever corrupt T16

[neat bison]

Vaaling might still grant lvl 21 but I’m not sure… Perfrct jewelers are too rare for me to even try

[snow sierra]

yes

[sharp warren]

Planning on making a witchhunter next, can someone link the best build rn? Is it likely to be nerfed or not?

[urban vessel]

so like if i roll % increased energy shield on my gloves, itd increase the energy shield i gain from azure amulet yeah

[snow sierra]

ES formular seems totaly off its like ES > Check EB > conversion Item > CI gets applyed > % ES items

[median kraken]

I don't know what the best witch hunter build is right now but I don't feel like I've heard them in discussions about likely nerf candidates

[urban vessel]

alright thwen

[wet mango]

vaaling gives "+1 level" as a corruption enchant

[snow sierra]

so if you equip ghostwrithe to give 60% hp up you can still get the ES from your life, Specc CI and scale this ES with %

its totaly dumb

[median kraken]

I think EB and conversion items happen at the same time. But yeah, it's a bit unintuive right now and very different from PoE1

Ghostwrithe working with CI is the weirdest part and the most likely to change

[snow sierra]

Normal conversion is before ghostwrithe too btw

[median kraken]

I tuink things like Disdain, Gaze, or Ghostwrithe giving you ES even if you have EB makes some sense

[snow sierra]

so if i equip the 30% hp to ES helm i get full desdain too

[median kraken]

In what way?

[wet mango]

no, that seems normal

CI sets maximum hp to 1 right? "setting" happens at the very end

as the last step

[median kraken]

Well, that'd them happening at the same time

[snow sierra]

Still wired

[wet mango]

ghostwrithe IS normal conversion

[weak knoll]

i posted it a minut ago ,this surely is underpriced isnt it ?

[snow sierra]

Well ghostwrithe is converted and distain is Gain so its diffrent

[weak knoll]

for this

[wet mango]

that's pretty much how it works except Check EB/conversion should be simultaneous. What seems wrong with it?

[wet mango]

gain and conversion are the same thing

[median kraken]

Gain is basically conversion that doesn't remove the thing it conveted from

[wet mango]

gain is a type of conversion that doesn't remove the original

[elder mural]

If i want to chance a Cloak of Flame
Silk Robe, considering it's lvl 22. Should i chance on low level base for higher chances or it doesn't matter ?

[wet mango]

lmao vatican

[median kraken]

Phone autocorrect for real weird there

[snow sierra]

So it happens at the step at the formular is what you are saying even if its named diffrent ?

[median kraken]

Yes

Gain is part of the conversion step

[wet mango]

yes

gain and conversion are the same

[snow sierra]

Ghostwrithe working with CI is still very unintutive

thus strange

[wet mango]

#1321237459987726366 message

[wet mango]

I mean, anything that "sets" a value to something HAS to happen at the end

so it makes sense that CI happens at the end

[median kraken]

I get why it worths that way but agree that it's weird

[wet mango]

so ghostwrithe conversion comes before

[snow sierra]

but i dont care if its stays this way 😄

happy to use this cheap a armor to get tons of es

And if not my chaos res is capped to prep for ES nerfs ^^

[fiery wave]

so if i get "gain extra" modifiers, they multiply with my "more" modifiers but are additive to themselves? what if i have different types of gain? like 2 fire gains probably add up but what if i have a lightning gain

[urban vessel]

hey, anybody know if its worth it to place soul core of zantipi to gain more intelligence?

[void barn]

Yea, any time that happens you underpriced

[urban vessel]

or rather, what soul core shld i place into my gear, assuming i alr have maxed res

[snow sierra]

God i wish i could trade all my Sekemas keys into Ultimatum keys...my build is just so mutch better in Ultimatum

[static pawn]

What’s the best mercenary build for Act 3 cruel and into the endgame? Mine is starting to fall flat.

[median kraken]

They're essential all additive with each other. And "more" modifiers are always multiplicative with everything, including other "more" modifiers

[rugged lily]

Does Skeletal Sniper's gas explosion scale off their attack damage or the detonating attack's? Also, do clouds stack?

[fiery wave]

base damage x spell damage x more 1 x more 2 x (fire gain1 + fire gain2) x (lightning gain1 + lightning gain2)? or is fire and lightning all adding up to the same number

i lost something. i meant to say "is it like this?"

thanks in advance

[mental lake]

what are your options for avoiding deaths by stunlock in high tier maps?

Stun charm obviously, but is there a way to setup barrier invocation or astral armor to deal with being stunned by some speedy monster?

[snow sierra]

building defensive stats

and capping res

[neat bison]

ES as stun threshold nodes are good

[vast folio]

bois, i have storm mage but for some reason it doesn't allow me to cast command death storm... Any ideas?

[snow sierra]

death storm only works on a dead skelly

[vast folio]

oh?

[snow sierra]

you dont use it as far as i am aware

[neat bison]

Yes its lame

[urban vessel]

what soul core to put into my armour, running lightning sorceress w max res

[neat bison]

Well the %ES runes are good

[snow sierra]

if you can the right thing might be rarity

[neat bison]

or rarity if you’re rich

[slim salmon]

hi im trying to get my hexblast to work in demon form but it doesn't only outside of it i have arcane tempo and chaos mastery socket to it

[dense egret]

do u guys think ice chronomancer bwould work?

[proven rapids]

that's a weird item, I wonder how it is abused

[snow sierra]

yes mostlikely with spark and coldconversion, but it would just be a worse version of ele

[dense egret]

we talking about ice chrono? @.@

[snow sierra]

it would be spark, that dos ice dmg and freezes

the ice spells itself are not very good as far as i am aware

[weak knoll]

Quick question

once the game will come out

our EA characaters goes to EA server and there will be a new season right

will the new season be for everyone or a server for EA and another for newcomers?

[snow sierra]

you could just look for a elementalist build and do that on chrono, you would just be a worse version meaning you need better gear

[sharp warren]

can someone link the best witchhunter build?

[snow sierra]

yes EA chars have a EA server and there is a new league and the permant league

[analog gale]

any idea if you can be affected by more than 1 font of mana?

i doubt it

[wraith egret]

no

[snow sierra]

EA servers will be locked for creation they said

[analog gale]

because it would be dumb if you could make a load of walls and get a huge amount of mana regen

[weak knoll]

most ppl will jump into seasonal right ?

[wraith egret]

yeah 85% of the players play leagues not standard

[snow sierra]

typical but there are some "permant league" andys allways

not sure if the EA will still be played tho we never had something like that

[thorn dragon]

how long/short are leagues in POE1

[snow sierra]

uhh pretty long 3 month or something ? i never had a league end on me that i started before i stopped playing again

[weak knoll]

Can someone dm about acts, i have a question as i just got into act 1 chaos

[fiery wave]

you must kill chaos

[weak knoll]

i jsut wanna ask smth witohut spoiling others

[snow sierra]

nice^^ but are there rly ppl that play poe for the story ? i mean its nice but....

[wet mango]

yes to the first part. different types of gain don't matter, they all compute simultaneously

[wet mango]

all gain happens simultaneously off the base damage

[fiery wave]

okay

[wet mango]

so use spoilers ||spoiler text||

[analog gale]

this seems like it could be good for blood mage

[nimble blade]

+2 minion level or 39% damage on scepter?

for hcssf

[snow sierra]

God i hate the crack bird in ultimatum

[fiery wave]

it salways level

[snow sierra]

yes it is alot of bloodmages use it

[weak knoll]

||when you teleport back in time to save ppl which is the end of act 3, you go to chaos act 1 and everything is the same over again right ||

||will there be a twist where they remember or whatever ?||

[wet mango]

is it 39% incr? probably levels

[snow sierra]

no its just filler since the rest is not there yet

its a loop they do to have content to endgame

[honest turret]

is this good for 2 div? playing spark

[wet mango]

the end of act3 normal is kinda fudged ||to make it work with cruel. Act 3 in cruel has the "true" ending (how it will join to Act 4)||

[mystic shard]

stun threshhold is pretty dependable right as logn as ur not constantly blocking?

[analog gale]

i feel like this would just kill you

[fiery wave]

@wet mango btw i figured out where the missing damage was. i calculated all the "more" modifiers on my support gems as "increased" modifiers and added it to the spell damage number. since flameblast has 20 mores itself, every other more ramps the damage massively, so this is my solution to damage scaling.

[snow sierra]

you can do cheapo build with that

with the armour that says armour works now against res

[analog gale]

i guess you do end up with 1.5x life

[wet mango]

yeah support gems would suck if they were just "incr"

[snow sierra]

can carry you until t15 or something

[analog gale]

doesnt that body armor also have really low armor

[snow sierra]

ye you need to get a rly good shield

[fiery wave]

i mean yes but im new so i misplaced the info

[snow sierra]

to make it work

[wet mango]

flameblast has only 1 more, but it's a 20x more

[fervent igloo]

Anyone know how to make a good mercenary build?

[analog gale]

60 armor

[snow sierra]

but since noboy plays armour getting that out of shield,boots and gloves is kinda easy

[wet mango]

attr stacking with pillar, gas nades, lightning, glacial bolt are the most common

[analog gale]

i suppose a blood mage could also use lifetap and mind over matter to have more ehp

[snow sierra]

ive seen a bonestorm bloodmage do it so better spells like dd can do it for sure

[fiery wave]

yeah sure

[analog gale]

as long as you can sustain the life costs

[fervent igloo]

Glacial bolt felt so bad to use but the lighting felt pretty strong

[mystic shard]

**Does it also apply to physical defense? does this just let it apply to both?

Or is it either or?**

[analog gale]

what if giants blood had let you dual wield staves

like for spellcasting

[snow sierra]

Scriblet has a guide for that on just that loadout is a cheap as build for 5ex or something and not very good, buts its a build that works xD

[analog gale]

it would probably be unbalanced

[wet mango]

come join the glacial gang
https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1319434833159651420
it's not as strong as lightning probably but it's still very fun

[analog gale]

but you would still need to get 3x the attribute requirements

[nimble sun]

How can I get this spirit enchantment? Is it rng vaal orb?

[snow sierra]

giants blood only works on the things it says

so no staffs

[analog gale]

does it say your armor doesnt apply to physical damage?

[proud niche]

Does anyone know if there a way to gain advantage of both iron grip and iron will from the irongrasp chest plate? Is there a spell that is consider a projectile and will work relatively well?

[snow sierra]

yes and luck

[wet mango]

if you like 2 buttong builds

[analog gale]

i know

thats not what i said

i said what if

[mystic shard]

well Id no i dont have the item, so it works on ur physical defenses too?

[snow sierra]

Well i can say what happens if you would do that on a bloodmage

you would onehit yourself

[fiery wave]

so next step is getting up my max res but i dont wanna buy 100s exs of gems again :[

[past wind]

Can someone tell me the name of the unique which applies life recovery after 4 seconds instead of every second? I can’t remember the name

[snow sierra]

cause spell cost get insane

[analog gale]

if it doesnt say it does a thing then it probably doesnt do that

[nimble sun]

I'm trying to make a stormwaver with 220 spirit for 2 cast on and archmage, this is incredible hard to achieve

[analog gale]

aw

[fervent igloo]

I’m an huge ice magic fan but I don’t wanna be caught lacking 😭

[analog gale]

i was wanting to use burden of shadows as a blood mage

[honest ingot]

Hey does this support gem work on my spark if i made it so that i always ignite and shock enemies?

[mystic shard]

Well if u get it let me know, Vwert Rocks (< search that when u wanna reply to me =) )

[fiery wave]

man cloak of flame makes you look so cool 😄

i think im gonna work with that

[undone narwhal]

How do you get monk to survive more the 2 hits t14 +

[snow sierra]

220 spirit seems easy to get i have 401 on my chrono

[fiery wave]

i feel like build plannign should include if you look cool

[snow sierra]

did you tryed amulett ? jewels ? Body...

[abstract belfry]

anyone know a merc build that isnt nades
i got my nade merc all s et up n all but the delay doesnt sit right with me
im actually open to other chars too, i just like the crossbow a lot

[nimble sun]

Can you explain how? What are your spirit sources

[neat bison]

Sceptre quality gives you spirit, amulet and chest can roll spirit. There’s a unique shield that grants 50 spirit

[snow sierra]

scepter 160, helm 20, amulett 36, shield 50, and jewels 8%

you could get up to 70 on amulett

And i dont have a body armour with spirt equip but i have one that gives 80

so for a easy solve you could just run the spirit shield

[nimble sun]

Okay thanks, I will try the shield then, I'm trying to reach 220 using a staff but I think with a shield and wand is possible

[snow sierra]

it is body armour and amulett

but i guess you use amulett for something else ?

[nimble sun]

No, I think then I just need etter rolls in this 2, thanks then

[snow sierra]

there are rings with up to 20 spirit too btw and a jewel that gives a flat value

[shrewd kernel]

I'm theorycrafting a Sword and Warstaff Monk build, any thoughts?

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/h7mqj0vm

[snow sierra]

I am aiming for 500 spirit as chrono xD

[tight zenith]

do powertreads multiply or add to % crit dmg ?

i know more = multiplicative but im not sure what to means

[nimble sun]

What jewel gives you flat spirit? I can't find in the market

[static plinth]

Its a flat value which is then multiplied by inc and more

[marble steppe]

35% increased Elemental Ailment Threshold what does this mean on chest?

[snow sierra]

tell me when you find out, it gives flat spirit per big noteable in radius

could find out how to search it too

[static plinth]

Base crit bonus is 50% i think, so with 5 power charges you double your crit damage

[mystic shard]

Well it doesn't say "your armour ALSO applies to elemental damage"

IT says ur armour applies to elemental damage.

[tight zenith]

ty ^^

[analog gale]

thats becaue armor already applies to physical damage

you can see the difference if you look at transcendence from poe1

[nimble sun]

I know that there is a rune that gives 15 spirit to weapons, anymore knows the name of the rune?

[thorn abyss]

yall think poison is gonna get nerfed or just PC

[snow sierra]

its only on martial weapons

[mystic shard]

kool

does anyone know what stunt hreshhold is based off of?

[analog gale]

are life remnants and Couture of Crimson the only ways to overflow life?

[junior warren]

anybody know where off meta builds are being discussed on? I played the pconc build before it was popularized, and now want to try something else.

[snow sierra]

yes as far as i am aware and that chest is highly buggy somehow

it totaly bugs your permanet minions

[austere vault]

guys does freeze buildup stat have a limit cap ?

[neat bison]

What do you guys find is the best 6th gem for Arsonists? I already have fire infusion and immolate slotted so I’m thinking either heft or ele focus

[snow sierra]

heft is big

[vast folio]

man how tf do you counter the sky puke in chaos trial ffs

[snow sierra]

you mean the crackbird ?

[cedar river]

Which sockets will make this item most powerful? +1-20 lightning damage runes or the Soul Core which adds 30% increased Elemental Damage with Attacks

[thorny token]

30% inc ele damage with attacks is worthless

[cedar river]

for Gas arrow explosion

[thorny token]

just go flat

[cedar river]

why is it worthless?

[thorny token]

because you most likely aleady have like 200-300% increased damage

so its already heavily diminished

[cedar river]

I see, probably better with flat yes

[fringe cape]

For infernalist bombarding build, is flat physical damage typically better than %increased overall damage? **increase flat physical damage and overall damage for minions

[neat bison]

I think I’d rather have flat dmg on my sceptre if I had to choose

[snow sierra]

I tend to agree but there are ppl that say the % is better

[cedar river]

Right about now I miss POB

[fringe cape]

I'm having a hard time figuring it out, i have a sceptre with 5-11 phys damage, and im thinking about buying one with 39% increased damage but i dont know how to tell which would be more

[snow sierra]

i would say keep your old one

if you dont get more spirit or gem level from a scepter

or minion life for dd

no point in buying a new one

the other numbers are so small it hardly matters

[fringe cape]

I'm looking at these two basically

[snow sierra]

what no

[fringe cape]

I have the 5-11 on already

[snow sierra]

i would never give up spirit

[fringe cape]

it has the one with %dmg has 1 more spirit lol

[thorny token]

what minion is that for

[snow sierra]

ah it has the corruption for spirit

didnt see that

still wouldnt switch

[balmy snow]

what class does the most dps endgame

[fringe cape]

yea I cant tell which would be better, that attack speed + %dmg seemed good

[thorny token]

attack speed is rly strong

if your minion can utilize it

[thorny token]

its not rly about class but builds

[snow sierra]

i kinda sure the other one would be better

because of the attack speed

[balmy snow]

can anyone reccomend me a good leveling build for mercenary

[thorny token]

even if the attack speed wasnt there its not a lot of flat for high level minion

and the inc damgae would be still better

[snow sierra]

ye but it would mostlikely be not noticable and not worth a buy

[thorny token]

yea

[snow sierra]

the attackspeed could be noticable

[thorny token]

pillar

[royal pond]

trying to think a build with freeze buildup/cold damage with chaos damage as secondary. anyone know anything similar to that?

[thorny token]

you cant rly just do chaos damage as secondary

its just gonna be way worse than just not doing the chaos damage part

[snow sierra]

dunno, spark cold conversion added chaos dmg from dark defilier could work

but sounds like alot of effort

you would need alot of spirit tho

[royal pond]

because it's least common?

mhmm

[thorny token]

no because the game doesnt rly support those 2 elements together

[royal pond]

😄

[thorny token]

bunch of your scaling wont apply to both at once

[grand gorge]

what runes would yall advise to add to this?

[royal pond]

and they say we can do anything what we want! 😄

[thorny token]

i mean you can

it just wont be good

[royal pond]

gotchu

[neat bison]

Maybe in the future, early access is missing a lot things

[thorny token]

you will probs beat campaign with it at least and some maps still

[thorny token]

nah the current conversion system actively discourages doing stuff like this

[snow sierra]

what you would do is, spark, convert it to cold with the ring, add lighting dmg with archemage, and add chaos dmg with the dark defiler by summoning permanet minions with sacrifce and unearth

[thorny token]

if you want chaos build with freeze your best option atm is the freeze chaos quiver

[glossy pollen]

Hey guys, I'm trying for a lightning sorceress build but I'm struggling to move through the first act and I'm not sure what to do to improve myself. I'm currently running Spark with orb of storms and lightning bolt

[snow sierra]

but you would need atleast 250 spirit for that to work

[dusk fulcrum]

Is that ignite? I'm playing as a fire sorceress and there are multiple skills to increase the chance of ignite but i always get this 100% of the time

[thorny token]

but chaos damage in general is not very supported in first place so its not great

[royal pond]

a lot of work

[royal pond]

aight thanks!

[snow sierra]

And dont do bloodmage

[royal pond]

ty for the replies I'll be thinking on this a bit more

[thorny token]

because all conversions happen at once the chaos dmg from dark defiler basically wont do anything

[snow sierra]

that wont work at all unearth is to expensive for that to make work

[thorny token]

as it will be applied at same time as archmage

[snow sierra]

archemage dos not interact with conversion

[thorny token]

actually you can also just do hexblast with chaotic freeze, but enabling chaotic freeze is pain

[snow sierra]

so you would do cold, chaos and lighting dmg

[thorny token]

yes, which is why the chaos dmg wont do anything basically

as you will have like 200-300% added as lightning

and then like what 20% added as chaos on the side

[snow sierra]

Its still a "gain" but you are right it wont be mutch

i kinda sure it would work and perform

but will it be optimal...no way

[thorny token]

it would be same as running around with no weapon pretty much

but yes

archmage can carry every bad decision :d

[snow sierra]

tbh i dont know if caster works without archemage atm

[thorny token]

it does, only annoying thing is mana management really

but its solvable

[snow sierra]

like the only one ive seen that dos not uses archemage is demon form

[dusky leaf]

Anyone know if momentum works on stampede? I dont know how much the movement is when you start to run

[fringe cape]

it's irrelevant anyways because the guy isnt messaging back lol

[snow sierra]

Well typical for trade

[thorny token]

yes it does, thereis very noticeable animation when momentum is enabled

it does green effect you acn see it

[snow sierra]

its not only about the mana, i feel like archemages adds so mutch dmg you nerver not wanna run it. and if you not run it your dmg takes a insane hit

[glossy pollen]

Seriously guys I don't know what to do

[thorny token]

i can enable momentum on vine arrow even when firing while running

2m is short range

[snow sierra]

like i run it with my 900 mana build and its worth it

[dusky leaf]

then i guess mine is not working ...

weirdly

[thorny token]

nah you can just do crit instead and get the damage back

and you stll get mana tempest anyway

whcih is like 80% added for free

[snow sierra]

sorry i dont know mutch about leveling with caster, its rly hard tho, look for spell level on your weapons and life on your gear

If you didnt get your spirit gem you could suffer until then and level as a minion summoner

thats is kinda smooth

[snow sierra]

but you can go crit AND archemage...x.X

[thorny token]

you can but you will get a lot less crit and crit multi than proper crit setup

[glossy pollen]

I have managed remnants, does that count?

[thorny token]

like you can get 900% crit multi fairly easily if you click some crit nodes

[snow sierra]

no you just enable archemage and dont give up crit

[glossy pollen]

I'm not yet familiar with spirit gems

[snow sierra]

i dont know what you mean

what level are you ?

like i said i have 900 mana and its still totaly worth it for me

[thorny token]

yea dont think at 900 mana it doesnt have competition

its still 100 spirit and it still makes your spells cost more

[snow sierra]

yes and i have a build that wants spirit still the added dmg is just to mutch to give up

even with this low mana

its silly

[edgy maple]

if i buy this, can i level up the gems ?

[snow sierra]

yes

[edgy maple]

what about quality

[snow sierra]

no and no more sokets

[edgy maple]

rip

[snow sierra]

and it will allways be -1 level

so its kinda bad

[gaunt spindle]

any good fun builds to try for my second character?

[thorny token]

at 900 mana its 35% more damage if you have tempest and lightning infusion already

for 100 spirit and increased mana costs

thats like fine

[snow sierra]

depends on how mutch currency you made form your first character

[snow sierra]

i dont run either

[thorny token]

then you should and save yourself 100 spirit because mana tempest is literally just stronger than archmage at your mana amount

as its 78% added

[snow sierra]

mana tempest make me stay in place

spirit offering is way better

[thorny token]

nah it doesnt

[karmic goblet]

stormweaver takes what venom? mana or ailment threshold

[thorny token]

if you have the qual

also mana tempest enables empower as well so mana tempest is 78% added and cull and 15% more damage on top

[glossy pollen]

I'm only low on 280 mana, is there something I can do about that at this stage?

[snow sierra]

the what ?

[thorny token]

and with the qual its up basically permanently

[karmic goblet]

quality

[thorny token]

quality on mana tempest makes it linger for 1 second

and it has 0.4s cast time so you can have it up pretty much permanently

even if you run around

[snow sierra]

oh thats neat i didnt know that, maybe i tryed it again, i tryed on breach boss and nearly ript the key because that shitty stay in place

but is it rly more then soul offering

[mighty anchor]

can anybody exlpain the adorned to me? Just got one and it does aboslutely nothing when I slot it in?

[thorny token]

yea without the qual mana tempest is way less broken :d

but the qual makes it insane

[snow sierra]

with 43% more spelldmg ?

[thorny token]

with the empower yea

[karmic goblet]

hey death, would you be able to help me make an appropriate decision on what venom to take for stormweaver? its not on the guide im following

[thorny token]

as soul offering do not enables empower right

[snow sierra]

mhhh

empower ?

[thorny token]

mana regen and attribs after right? i think

[thorny token]

mana tempest makes spells empowered which means you can link the 2 empower supports to it

murderous intent and uuh

[karmic goblet]

so first act3 take mana then cruel act3 take ailment threshold?

[thorny token]

premeditation

[karmic goblet]

thats what you mean i think?

[snow sierra]

Ah i dont have links for that free

all my 6 links are a must have

[thorny token]

isnt cruel like attribs, chaos res and then some other option thats useless?

[thorny token]

no you link that to mana tempest

not your main link

[noble linden]

Which is better

2 right?

[thorny token]

its skills empowered by this skill supports

like so

[vernal fern]

what can i do to get better mana sustain on a sorc/chrono?

[snow sierra]

dmg recoup as mana works kinda well as a supplyment

[karmic goblet]

i dont remember its been like a week sense i did that

[snow sierra]

i dont know maybe i try it again the quality thingy sounds rly good....but just spending 1 div to try it out...urg

[karmic goblet]

act3 norm ima go mana tho because need as much possible for eldricth battery later down the line

[vivid dagger]

hi, is there any good build for acolyte of chayula besides a poison one? maybe something with pure caos dmg (if there is)

[thorny token]

second one only if you care about attack speed

otherwise first one is better on average

[edgy maple]

does this good ?

[rugged kraken]

Whats the point of leveling up the zombie skill? The tooltips dont show any improvement with levels just cost more mana

[noble linden]

But the first has a 25% attack speed how is the second better for attack speed?

[thorny token]

second one has better base attack speed

you can see it at top

1.45 on second one

1.31 on first

[noble linden]

Yea I just saw that

[snow sierra]

Dam i rly with i had space for the 1 more skillgem rings

[hushed umbra]

Is hefty support broken?

[upper viper]

i want to slowly revice my invoker again. Was wondering, has there popped some good cold shattering builds up ?

[snow sierra]

because the tooltip of your zombie shows it that how it gos with minions

[noble linden]

Is that extra .10% that much better ?

[vernal fern]

this doesnt give me enough rly

[civic gale]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Trephina
https://poe2db.tw/us/Northpaw
Do you guys know which passive would take presidence

[snow sierra]

then you gotta invest in some mana reg on the tree

if this dosnt help inspiration support

[thorny token]

its base attack speed that is then scaled by all your other attack speed mods

so yea its quite a difference

but if you are 2h build you usually dont care as much about attack speed

and you probs dont even have many increases to as in first place

but if you do then yes more base as is very goo

[vernal fern]

alrighty another question - does/will Rage work for a spark caster? will it still raise attack damage?

[thorny token]

yea it will still be just attack damage

so uselessfor caster

[noble linden]

I’m doing a sunder/ stun build

[thorny token]

then would just go for first one

as sunder also has forced attack time anyway

so scaling as barely matters

[noble linden]

Gotcha ty

[simple turret]

liking this wudijo chalupa monk build

[snow sierra]

still thinking about deadeye summoner but having 2 dead ascendency points sounds kinda meh

[heavy wigeon]

now that the game's been out for a bit, which class is the safest fastest mapper

[snow sierra]

the what ?

[simple turret]

for those curious https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/p56160mu

[honest ingot]

If my projectile 100% chains does fork support still work?

[snow sierra]

Temporalis Silk Robe teleport spamm

by far the fastes mapper and faster then any poe1 build mostlikly, you got around 5 days left to play that

[upper viper]

isnt that chest like a mirror 😂

[snow sierra]

yes

[heavy wigeon]

lol

[snow sierra]

he didnt ask with a price limit

[upper viper]

true true

i gotta figure out a monk/invoker play.

[slow torrent]

If I crit phys and my weapon has %dmg as extra elemental dmg - does it make the hit freeze or shock or ignite?

[pastel blaze]

How do I build around this in ssf? Gemling or monk? Do I need any other uniques for this?

[snow sierra]

HoWa would be nice

And its kinda farmable for ssf

[rancid heron]

how do these all have those rolls added together

[pearl sluice]

what gear should i use as a stromweaver i know the build im building but im confused on how to get the gear i need should i use the exalted orbs or something

l lvl 16

[snow sierra]

dont use the exalted orbs

[pearl sluice]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/empyrian-temporalis-spark-sorc?weaponSet=set1

[snow sierra]

bank them and use them later to buy stuff

[pearl sluice]

ight bet

im stuck on the final act 1 boss

i usually beat every boss first try besides this mf

got me feeling like I'm playing a bloodborne boss

[snow sierra]

do you have a exalted ?

then maybe buy a ghostwirth that will make you alot tankyier

[pearl sluice]

wym

holdon

lemme get on ill show you all my stuff i have

i have hella red gear too

and yellow

[snow sierra]

please dont

[pearl sluice]

where do i get a ghostwirth

[snow sierra]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/YrdLwRgiY

[pearl sluice]

trade?

should i buy currency stashes and shit

[snow sierra]

with a few energy notes from tree that will make you extremly tanky

you could farm it, make a twink , spamm farm the first boss

and buy body armours

[pearl sluice]

bet

[snow sierra]

with a level 2 char

the strat would be, farm the first boss with a low level char so you get the gambles from the kills

and gamble with a level 2 char on body armour

to get the robe

will take you a while tho

[pearl sluice]

oh hn bro

im bouta beat this mf rn

first try of the day

[sleek saddle]

I actually have a build based on it

I came here to get reviewed and ask people what to focus on

[brave furnace]

when should i start switching to end game builds? im in act 3 on cruel difficulty lvl 60

[wintry shuttle]

What is the deal with the Time lost diamond, how does it work? for a dummy

[snow sierra]

can you carry ppl thru ultimatum ?

like inv them before trialmaster or something ?

[ashen pond]

hello
has anyone here tried corpswade/decompose builds?

[distant cypress]

for grenadier merc build, which is more dps late game, gas nades + ignite hood or exp shot + exp nades

[mystic shard]

critical hits, from teh enemy, how much % does it add to their attack?

[hushed umbra]

Bonestorm on attack debuff can crit?

[thorny token]

yes it adds flat to your attack pretty much

[thorny token]

yes

[hushed umbra]

so my minion would have to crit for it to crit?

[thorny token]

yes

[hushed umbra]

using minion crit nodes?

uff

bad

[thorny token]

yes it will use minion everything

bonestorm debuff is like the most broken thing ever for some stuff

[hushed umbra]

thinking if I use sceptre of not (minions)

[thorny token]

at level 30 its 1k extra flat damage

[ashen pond]

does it feel good or is it clunky/rippy?
i am tired of demon form and wanna reroll to magic find corpeswade

[thorny token]

on bosses it feels good, when clearing its annoying

[hushed umbra]

+2 spell, crit chance and spell damage from focus seems more usefull

[thorny token]

because you have to kill at least 1 mob in pack every so often

[ashen pond]

oh were u running a minion version?

[thorny token]

and best skill for that is hexblast

and i fucking hate ehxblast

[thorny token]

i was running it on PF poison

and yea i had like 3 brutes

[ashen pond]

hmm i see

[thorny token]

then scaled bunch of duration and aoe for clouds

so i could just walk in circle on boss

and keep 10 poison stacks up

but downside is as i said is i had to use hexblast to start the chain

in maps

which is giga annoying. its rly good for farming breaches tho

[ashen pond]

mhm

i might go for it than just a no minion version focused on rarity farming

avoiding bosses i guess

[thorny token]

wel you will still have to use something to start the chain regardless

so even without minions it will be equally annoying

[ashen pond]

yeah thats prob gonna be hexblast

mhm

were you using contagion?

[thorny token]

nah, contagion wouldnt do anything for me

[clear coral]

I unlocked Ranging Spirits with the lvl 4 spirit gem, will they do more damage if I use a lvl 8 spirit gem to upgrade it?

[thorny token]

i had poison prolif and decompose spreads itself already pretty much as well

[ashen pond]

oh yeah right you were pf

[thorny token]

i mean with enough aoe and investment where you just right click pack and start the chain with hexblast

it might be less annoying

as i was playing the setup on really bad gear

before i switched to something else

but def at least click aoe nods on tree i would say they are mandatory for hexblast to not be as dogshit as it is

[ashen pond]

yeah ill try it with both maybe herald of agony for prolif, and contagion see which one plays better

contagion will have more damage cus it spreads all the poisons not just one

ty

[thorny token]

yea bu that doesnt matter much as cloud poisons every second and everything that dies spawns extra cloud

so everyting wll be always at max stacks anyway

[ashen pond]

oh yea the clouds will stack

didnty think about that

[thorny token]

yea thats why i had 3 brutes so i spawned 3 clouds on boss so i could keep 10 stacks :d

[mystic shard]

**So I've finally made my end game build.

I'm using a few legendaries so there is that, i know they have reduced stats.**

Would you all give me some info?

**----------------------
**
**From my Head, Chest, Boots, imma have legendaries, all rest can be yellows.

From these three items I'll have 150 armour.

I'll also have a shield with 133 armour, that'll have +300% through talents, so 532.

So 682 armour.

All other slots free (and rune slots)

If I devoted like 50% of my talents to + armor%, how much armour could I have end game ROUGHLY?

And how how much % would that be worth END GAME?**

[thorny token]

helmet and chest are the biggest sources of base armour

so if you have ones with such low values

then not a lot

[snow sierra]

ye you need a insane shield if you want armour to work then

[mystic shard]

I know that yeah

well the shield has 133 armour without rune slots

so all I said above

[snow sierra]

what ?

[mystic shard]

what u all tink?

[snow sierra]

i dont know was the purpose to have as low armour as possible ?

while still having armour talents

not sure what your purpose is you listed your armour values like it should mean that is mutch...while having absoluty nothing, whats the question here ?

[junior kindle]

For reference you can get over 1000 armor on just a shield

[thorny token]

yea and like 1.3k on helmet and 2.3k on chest or more?

[snow sierra]

if you have this low armour you should not take this talents and tank another way

[bold pulsar]

any way to make this thing do actual damage without investing into minions? My fire sorc has close to 0 good options when it comes to spirit gems

[thorny token]

you can try and make it apply fire exposure

at least

[bold pulsar]

That never seemed to work

[snow sierra]

you mean for leveling ?

[bold pulsar]

For mapping

[snow sierra]

No you cant go hybrit minions in endgame

[bold pulsar]

I dont want to go minion though

[snow sierra]

minions are a kinda a all or nothing thing

[bold pulsar]

Im going for a crit caster

But even cast on crit only procs like once every minute lol

[snow sierra]

then take the gem out, if you spamm firespells they never reach the enemys anyways

[bold pulsar]

What better alternatives for spirit gems are there for me?

[snow sierra]

Archemage

[bold pulsar]

Thats for lightning though

[snow sierra]

no

thats just for all

i use detonate death and its a insane dmg boost for me

[mystic shard]

hmm I dont see these items on market

[celest hornet]

Why cant i equip heightend curses on Hand of Chayula?

[toxic mason]

is there a item or passive that converts all fire to physical for a Physical Explosive Shot Build?

[mystic shard]

well I know what I plan to do.

[bold pulsar]

Look, it says lightning

[mystic shard]

|
So by my calculations, end game, I'll have about 4000 armour.

What % would this be worth, far end game?

[snow sierra]

I know ? it says gain too

[mystic shard]

|
To be clear the armour I'll have is just a bonus.

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Im not sure I understand lol

[snow sierra]

its just a insane scaling factor

better then a few skulls that never reach the enemy

[bold pulsar]

Ill give it a try. My dmg is definately lacking

Despite trying to be a crit build lol

[snow sierra]

i dont understand with this low values you dont use armour at all

[bold pulsar]

Thanks for the help

[mystic shard]

jesus christ, you two lol are so unhelpful

[bold pulsar]

Uhm, I wasnt helping you. I was gaining help too

[mystic shard]

not u

ofc

nischana nad death

[snow sierra]

I dont know what are you trying to do, you specc armour with items equiped that have none

that makes no sense

even if you get the best rest gear you can in the marked

you wont have enough armour to make that point investment worth it

[mystic shard]

Right, Imma ask a question, I don't want anything but the answer, If you don't have it that's ok, please don't take up space making my question disappear up there.

Nischana and Death please don't answer me anymore (they've been giving me these snide arrogant remarks the last few days)

What amount of flat armor is needed end game for 90% reduction.

What PERCENTAGE is 4000 flat worth end game, I don't care if it's 1%, I just want the knowledge so I can therycraft and try something else.

[fringe cape]

What are peopel putting into the shield socket for minion builds? a specific type of rune?

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Damn, my dmg spiked. Thanks for the tip

[snow sierra]

Resistance if you need them, life if you need it, rarity if you can affort it

[tawny blade]

What is easier to get more of high max mana and great regen or life ? Deciding on mind over matter and full mana build or blood magic and full life build

[snow sierra]

Blood magic later on can be rly iffy, because spell cost escaltes kinda quick, not sure what source of dmg you are trying to use

[midnight bolt]

Around 2% damage mitigation against big hits and maybe 25-35 % against small

[snow sierra]

On attacks blood magic might be good since rank is not important for you

[mystic shard]

thx bro

[midnight bolt]

I hope armor buffs will come next patch, its pathetic

[mystic shard]

mmmm, yeah apparently its pretty bad, uapparenly need 118k for 95% evasion too, it's a bit much lol

|
I'll just have armour as a bonus anyway, the nodes are near other stuff Im getting,and im getting energy shield too.

[midnight bolt]

U can 90% softcap evasion easily

[mystic shard]

|
But I got a chest piece that will reduce physical dmg by 30%, no matter it's damage.

So I dont think I need to worry about physical TOO much.

[thin basin]

started around 55 might hit 80 today

[mystic shard]

|
I'll be reducing physical by 30%+2%+20%+15%+20% and lastly by another 30% for 5 seconds every 5 seconds

(So half my existances basically)

So I was just hoping my armour would be like an extra boon of 10% or something

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra While it increased my dmg, it definately made my mana situation suddenly an issue lol

[mystic osprey]

anyone having trouble looking for attack speed in jewels on the trade site? i think its bugged. there are two "increased attack speed" mods on the site and both of them have zero results

[snow sierra]

ye sadly that happens

[fringe cape]

what's the rarity rune?

[mystic shard]

Though tbh if armour is that useless late, perhaps im better just getting rid of the little ill have.

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Since its a flat % increase in cost based on my mana, I guess getting mana cost reduction nodes wont affect this much?

[fringe cape]

also @snow sierra i bought that scepter from earlier and got about 600dps out of it

[snow sierra]

you could try a few skellys and use spirit offering on them that dosnt cost permanet mana but its more micromangment

And a curse if you dont use one

[mystic shard]

if an item has like 100% increased armour, it's just for that item itself right?

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Im not familiar with spirit offering and skellys

I do use the fire resist curse

[fervent igloo]

Is the gas grenade or voltaic grenade better

[snow sierra]

ah souls offering sorry rembered the name wrong it gives you a 43% more spelldmg mod for 4 seks

[bold pulsar]

hm

[snow sierra]

ppl told me mana tempest is rly good but i had kinda bad experience with it, its a good dmg amp too

[bold pulsar]

Problem is, Im using mind over matter

so my mana is basically my health

and my energy shield isnt great

I think the build is a bit of a mess

[snow sierra]

i assume you have midnight braid allready ?

[bold pulsar]

Is that a unique?

[snow sierra]

yes a belt

[bold pulsar]

ah, no

[snow sierra]

that gives you 50% of the dmg you take as mana back

that helps alot with MoM builds

[bold pulsar]

I use Everlasting amu and Aurseize gloves for rarity

If I used a non res belt, id be low

[snow sierra]

Soul core of azcapa

it can have up to 10% res to all

dunno if that makes it useable for you

[wet mango]

it depends on the size of the hit

do you mean against a 500 dmg hit or a 5000 dmg hit

[snow sierra]

And using everlasting gaze seems extemly expensive for this low stats you have, did you have luck and found it ?

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra I might be able to switch some stuff around. But that belt definately seem almost mandetory lol

[snow sierra]

Its rly nice if you use MoM not a must have but kinda nice

[bold pulsar]

Yeah thanks for making me aware of it

[snow sierra]

you could pivit away from MoM tho

with this amulett and ghostwrithe you could reach insane values on ES with a few points into these notes

[bold pulsar]

I HATE ghostwrithe though

[snow sierra]

why ?

[bold pulsar]

It might be good, but it looks ridiculous

[snow sierra]

Ah

Well cant help you with looks 😉

[bold pulsar]

I use this atm

Also, I use CI

[snow sierra]

thats a nice one, but it kinda wants to be combined with armour for maximum effect because of how the armour formular works

you can use CI and ghost no problem

[bold pulsar]

If only we had our poe1 cosmetics, I wouldnt care lol

[snow sierra]

well you have a few points to spend maybe to fix the issue 😉

[bold pulsar]

I spent it already lol

[pearl sluice]

Hey guys I'm doing a frost archer invoker, and I'm using frost exposure and want to get my enemies resistances even lower, I read that cursos can get a good chunk of negative resistance, can someone explain to me how it works? I don't know nothing about curses

[bold pulsar]

But either way! I would like to remain with MoM and CI

[snow sierra]

well maybe the belt will help you

[bold pulsar]

Yeah definately will try that

[snow sierra]

And if you push your mana values higher

archemage will get even stronger

[obsidian remnant]

Anyone have a good storm weaver build?😭 Just started mapping

[mystic shard]

That's what I use, so armour comes last, perhaps my 4000 armour won't be so bad after all.

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra Yeah I tried to go for mana on my gear instead of life

[snow sierra]

Still thats very very low stats to wear a 1 div amulett^^

[crystal storm]

works with minions + levels this?
does it worth taking as second point?

[snow sierra]

yes it gives minion level

but it dosnt work well with them

cause you lose your weapons when you transform

that makes you lose all bonuses from your weapons

including the 100+ spirit from your scepter

[crystal storm]

rip

[thin basin]

time stopping for 15 secs

pretty rip

[snow sierra]

^^

[thin basin]

found some pretty good setup tech

[snow sierra]

the best second note for minion builds is altered flesh unless you plan something specific

[snow sierra]

swapping weapons for it ?^^

with temp chains

[thin basin]

whispers of doom and temp chain with ground curse

so i can insta time

setup afterward takes like 3 sec

[midnight geode]

is it true armor doesnt reduce bleed? I thought it would since bleed deals physical dmg

[wet mango]

armour protects against phys hits. bleed is not a hit

[bold pulsar]

@snow sierra I bought this earlier, ready for when I reach higher level lol

[midnight geode]

thats some bs

[snow sierra]

i do the same only with weapon swap and temp chains, swap the weapons with the temp chain cast press timestop and then do my setup^^

i love killing bosses in it

[crystal storm]

might work backwards, like armor reduces hit so bleed weaker
but armor is bad in game, so whatever.

[midnight geode]

cant really go anything else other than armor with my build.. cloak of flame helps a bit at least

[thin basin]

my cast speed is pretty slow so cant afford the temp chain cast when the boss start moving

[crystal storm]

look into block maybe?

[midnight geode]

its capped

[wet mango]

what are you playing, warrior?

[midnight geode]

yeah

[crystal storm]

then you gaped by balance

[wet mango]

historically for life/armour builds you get max res to shore up your Ele defense

[midnight geode]

ay at least i look cool and throw giant hammers that one tap bosses

my ranger is sick too tho

[snow sierra]

you could stop time before, it wouldnt care if your timestop is just abit late, would cost you a slight bit of duration tho. As i understand temp chains makes the duration longer even if it comes after the debuff

[plain cloud]

Hey, what's the ideal amount of Rarity %/ Magic Find number to hit, when does it reach the point of diminishing returns ?

[wet mango]

what defense are you looking for, bleed specifically?

[snow sierra]

ppl saying 150-200% is the sweet spot

but still alot of them pushing way past that

[midnight geode]

yeah, its the only one im defenless against

these are my res

[wet mango]

also, I was wrong, armour and resists do affect the size of the bleed.
cc @crystal storm

[midnight geode]

i gotta get my chaos up but other than its pretty good i think

[wet mango]

wear a charm? xD

[midnight geode]

there is one for bleed?

damn

[wet mango]

absolutely

[static plinth]

Staunching

[midnight geode]

what about this tho