2┃build-planning

[thin basin]

theres this support gem that fully break armour when you stun something, warrior can stun reliably so people use that

[ornate eagle]

Some uniques do that but I don’t remember their names…

[grizzled peak]

Oh wow i mustve missed it. Do you know the name of the support gem by chance? Ill check myself but I could be missing it since the exact skill im looking at might not have it be available

[midnight geode]

what does dmg with warcries mean exactly? Cuz my warcry does 0 dmg.

[thin basin]

some warcry does damage

[pearl sluice]

Evasion feels squishy, im at 58% rn, running tier 10t-11 maps but im getting stunlocked a lot

Should i get armour instead?

[clear nebula]

hi, im hesitating between items for my build, should i go for one with 75% res chaos included or one with 38% chaos res only but 300 more hp and 1500 increased dps?

[thin basin]

devastate

[grizzled peak]

Ah that makes sense thats a T2 support gem and im still in act 1

they gave me this warcry that needs endurance charges to enhance my autos. idk why they gave me this without a way to proc it

[static plinth]

Infernalist can self-ignite

[thin basin]

aim for 20k eva and acrobatic, something like that

[fiery briar]

ah, do you know the uniques that can? I'm running titan

[static plinth]

There's some that make enemies more likely to ailment you but none that can guarantee it

Is this for Infinite Pursuit or something else

[trail ibex]

i hope this buffs all of these right?

[fiery briar]

infinite pursuit?

[thin basin]

hover and hold shift

[charred gate]

Can aftershocks trigger "on crit" stuff?

[fiery briar]

oh nope its for the nodes on the tree

[fiery briar]

yep

[lusty surge]

anyone know if morior can have rarity and element res per socket?

[distant canopy]

if you equip multiple of the same type of charms do the trigger at the same time and if so do the rarity charms buffs stack? or does the second trigger overwrite the first

[trail ibex]

oh dam it shows what it buffs thanks a lot, feel dumb as shit now, sorry for wasting your guys time, much love

[spring atlas]

For quivers: Is % increase to bow skills more damage than than flat damage increases? Like from phys, cold, or lightning?

[spring atlas]

I think only one triggers at a time

[nocturne wharf]

could someone help me on my witch please level 18

[cyan idol]

Hello everyone, im planning of doing an Aurabot/Magic Find/Cursebot; do people are playing this and having some link for build to try finding the things i like please ?

[crystal turret]

Anyone know if https://poe2db.tw/us/Bushwhack applies to my damage delt, or is it damage delt to me?

[static plinth]

Damage you deal

[crystal turret]

interesting. Thanks!

[analog kiln]

Hey guys what im trying is a sunder + mace strike armor break build , but the mace strike won't start to buildup armor break despite me having equipt splinter , anyone got an idea what I do wrong

[charred gate]

thanks!
I'm trying to use the Quecholli two handed mace (100% crit chance) to trigger the invoker elemental expression. It looks like an awful build but i want to see if it can work :p

Anyone has an idea what is the best way to attack fast with maces?

[thin basin]

rage on hit

martial tempo and attack speed nodes

[pearl sluice]

How much armour is good for endgame?

[static plinth]

Ideally, you'd be able to sustain both Ferocity and Charge Infusion

Its combined like 60% More speed

But i dont know if thats possible without Deadeye

[proud ore]

Question, if I spec into increased chaos dmg will it effect the ring, or is it like poe1 where it still only scales off regular ignite dmg

[analog spoke]

Road to 2m!

[sacred sail]

as an attack build that can't leech, how can I handle mind over matter ?

[spring atlas]

For quivers: Is % increase to bow skills more damage than than flat damage increases? Like from phys, cold, or lightning?

[charred gate]

wait, why rage?

[tidal copper]

I'm betting you do chaos damage but scale normally
So you need chaos pen and fire damage

[fleet tundra]

How does ignite work

[proud ore]

If your a warrior, prolly heading towards the merc area, there's a ton of atk speed nodes then titan gives you extra 50% on small nodes

[charred gate]

i see, will try to make that work

[thin basin]

does it not give some attspeed? maybe with berserk i swear it did in poe2

[proud ore]

That's what I was thinking

[charred gate]

Not a warrior, this is a monk invoker build

the idea is to scale the elemental expression from the invoker somehow, with 100% crit chance from the weapon and a lot of atk speed

[proud ore]

I believe still heading south on the tree there will be a couple atk speed nodes, but not 100% would need to look at tree

[spring prairie]

is archmage on a non lightning focused build worth losing a bunch of other skills like srs/arctic armour/vitality/cannibalism/etc

[thin basin]

if you really want to, theres a 1% aspeed per 15 dex

[fleet tundra]

Is it rly worth taking all the small atk bonuses near the base of the tree on a standard titan build for example or is it better to just take the attribute bonuses and take the "short" route toward the good stuff

You save about 2-4 nodes going the short way and I'm really having difficulty evaluating the opportunity cost

[lone wave]

I wonder how hard it really is to find scepters with no allies modifiers

[wanton dawn]

Anyone know of a link or list of unique items in game? Trying to just peruse and think of cool build using some

[exotic holly]

anyone help me with a early game monk build

[vagrant imp]

Learned yesterday that black flame is not conversion. You need to scale fire/ignite

[charred gate]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Unique_item

[wet mango]

You are not doing chaos damage, you are doing fire damage
So you would want to scale fire

[thin basin]

depend on what nodes youre looking for? not seeing a lot of early point skipping unless theyre trying to do some build that need heavy traveling

[wet mango]

Yep since dots dont do conversion. That's why they have to implement it like this

[exotic holly]

anyone help me with a early game monk build

[thin basin]

ask the question

[exotic holly]

i know literally nothing about builds on poe2 or one

all i know is im doing negative damage

[thin basin]

try following a build guide?

[exotic holly]

yt? any channel that is reliable that yk

[eager gazelle]

I have swap my cold monk from pure eva to eva+es and now I wonder how to get back my ES fast when I'm fightning a boss without that Meditate thing

[vagrant imp]

Ghost dance is really the only way, you could spec into ES recharge for pinnacle content, but doing so for every map boss would be a bit much, just have to be patient here and there. Since you're cold every freeze is basically a free ES refill.

[thin basin]

i think zizarian have a cold monk guide

[eager gazelle]

What do you mean by free ES refill? Because they are frozen and my ES starts to regenerate again?

[vagrant imp]

Yeah, you just have time, only thing that will stop you during the freeze is arena hazards

[eager gazelle]

okok, thanks mate ^^

[vagrant imp]

You could also consider "Eternal Youth" keystone depending on how much ES you have compared to HP.

[eager gazelle]

I was thinking on that actually. I have 2.1k Life and 4.3k ES that doubles with Grim Feast mapping

[grand gorge]

which is better?

[wet mango]

what skill(s) are you using, are you using appropriate supports, and is your weapon good

[vagrant imp]

4.3k before Grim Feast?

it's definitely worth considering if so

[eager gazelle]

Yes, 4.3k at Hideout

[exotic holly]

ill send pictures

[vagrant imp]

Worth a shot for sure IMO if bosses are your main issue, makes your life flask more useful

[vagrant imp]

but that may honestly be too much to lose the recharge, haha. Can try it for a few fights.

[static spade]

If you got hit while having an energy shield or if you have the passive "Mind over matter", does it still count as "Taking damage"?

[haughty dove]

what better for some one that doesn't want to die. Energy shield recharge per second or energy shield recharge delay modifier. Trying to work out my passive tree.

[exotic holly]

this is what im using

[sharp warren]

How do i pop shocks on this build?

To use elemental invocation + ball of lightning for insane bell procs

[wet mango]

what skills ar eyou mainly using? all of them? or focusing on vaulting impact

[thin basin]

saw that post too huh

[wet mango]

you want to put supports for your main skills

for more damage

[sharp warren]

wdym

[fringe cape]

When you put an iron rune on an item and it gives 20% more energy shield, is that specifically for that item or overall?

[exotic holly]

vaulting n staggering palm

[eager gazelle]

Vitality will also affect Eternal Youth? Or just the flasks?

[wet mango]

your staff is not that good, try to find one with 40-80% increased physical damage

[vagrant imp]

just flasks

[exotic holly]

n sometimes cascade

[vagrant imp]

it's specifically for the item. It's a local modifier, but it is multiplicative

[exotic holly]

anywhere i farm specifically or does it not matter

[halcyon solar]

#when you are doing an expedition. Do the modifier of each detonation/Pack stack up and apply to the next packs aswell?

[thin basin]

an its ele invo

i saw this today

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hmdiua/its_simple_just_crit_and_cast_on_cast_on_crit_on/

pretty lit

[wet mango]

check vendor every level up, and also grab white items (of good base) and use transmute + aug

can also gamble in the early game

[high wave]

Hey all, I'm hoping someone can help me, would adding "Elemental focus" to my herald of ice frost build negatively impact me or specifically "turn off" ambush?

[thin basin]

and why do you need to pop shock? afaik you can keep getting energy by shocking repeatedly itll just wont override the highest one, or atleast thats how it should work

[exotic holly]

wym gamble

[exotic holly]

ok

[sharp warren]

wdym? i want to get invocation charges

[wet mango]

from like Finn in act 1 (forget who in act 2)

[wet mango]

why would it turn off ambush? What interaction do you see there

[vagrant imp]

AMbush will still work

[thin basin]

if it work anything like those cast on x, you should get those "charges" just by repeatedly shocking enemies, dont need to remove them

[high wave]

Sorry missed the key piece

I'm trying to test it and it just feels like they chain less when the elemental focus is on

[wet mango]

Ele Focus means you will not be able to apply ailments (such as chill)

[exotic holly]

is that a good idea? i did it a lil bit for my helmet

[wet mango]

has nothing to do with Ambush

[high wave]

Right so, elemental focus = bad for a polcirkeln build right?

[vagrant imp]

Yeah you will likely lose out on chaining with ele focus on Herald. It's not very good with that ring.

[wet mango]

correct but Ambush is irrelevant here

[high wave]

Gotcha, I just added that in there because that's what's making the damage high enough to chain the enemies I think

Ty all

[wet mango]

right i'm just saying that there's no interaction with ambush and Ele Focus

[high wave]

I gotcha ty

[mint rampart]

doe this community allow real currency exchange in game currency?

[atomic halo]

real money?

no, that is called RMT and it's against the game's TOS

[azure wyvern]

state of warrior 💀

[mellow wigeon]

has anyone played around with cast on crit with crossbows (witch hunter)

not sure what support gems you can place into a cast on crit meta gem, but i play shock witch hunter with high crit chance.

[trail ibex]

what the hell is going on (story in multiple pics)

[exotic holly]

hate that i cant use MnK on console

[karmic trout]

Is ruthless bugged on minions? When I socket it, it says only 5% increased stun build up every 5th hit rather than 500%

[thin basin]

Do you have enough stats for it?

[trail ibex]

i think so

[thin basin]

You can place any spells and theres 2 energy support gems for meta

[thin basin]

It said 0 right there press G and see how many current red gem you have slotted

[trail ibex]

is it this?

[thin basin]

Yes 2/2 str

[trail ibex]

ah

thx again mate

[mellow wigeon]

do you feels as if it would be viable on a high crit cross bow shock build. can't find much about it anywhere

[thin basin]

Change one of yoyr stat to red if you want to use it

If you dont need the other stat tht is

[azure wyvern]

is the less block chance added at the end of formula?

[thin basin]

Maybe for bosses but normal mobbing it wont help

[mellow wigeon]

sorry to ask, but would you happen to know the skill gems you're able to run in the cast on crit meta socket?

[mystic shard]

**do these get stronger per socketed thing?

Like if u socket 2, each will give 4%?

And if you socket 3, ecach will give 6% and so on?**

[thin basin]

I dont think it matters? Its just .65 before or after increase

[thorny token]

yes

[thin basin]

Most if not all spell gems, curses, marks, energy specific support and i think most if not all other supports can also go in there so basically everything except for attacks? Lol

[mystic shard]

U know how hard it is to get these or?

if u farm their location is it decently fast?

[mellow wigeon]

might be worth for bossing. i know there's a gear piece that cast lightning strike on crit, but couldn't remember which one it was.

plus it'd be cheaper to go cast on crit

[thin basin]

As a attack character chances are you wont have the mana sustain for these cast on x spam in bosses scenario

[indigo breach]

me rn: Moooore O.O

[mellow wigeon]

possible, but i have my mana in the 600's and my main attack doesn't really use any mana.

[wary canopy]

All "increase" damage piles together right? "Increased Damage with Attacks" and "Increased with Hits Against Rare and Unique Enemies" are not in separate piles that multiply?

[mellow wigeon]

i think the only time i burn mana is for shock burst bolts, but it's not enough to bottom out.

[thorny token]

no clue

[thorny token]

yes

[wary canopy]

Thought so, ty

[still rock]

Feels like you need 20 million ehp to effectively do ultimatum 10s

christ

[halcyon solar]

Can you in any way "target" corrupted precursor tables? I never get those while having infinite amouts of Irradiated.

[wanton dawn]

Anyone got a non-meta fun sorc build. Ideally not cold skill and not the meta spark. Haven’t decided storm/time ascend yet. Maybe using weird cheap unqiue(s)?

[still rock]

what are some optimal ulti farmers rn? assuming something CI or ev/es?

armor feels effectively useless against the bosses

[graceful slate]

Would a Galvanic Shard (Crossbow Skill) Invoker (Monk) work?

There are a lot of crit and lightning/elemental passives nearby

And you get even more crit and elemental shtuff as an Invoker

[halcyon solar]

if your map contains an additional Breach. Do you get some kinda notification or is it stated in the top right below the map info?

[still rock]

Ye idk why it wouldnt

[thorny token]

sure, assuming you are gonna use something else than galvanic shard for single target

as that skill kinda sucks for single regardless of waht you do

[graceful slate]

I think there's a lightning beam no?

And grenades as well

Do you think that would suffice?

[thorny token]

sure

ideally you want to do shockburst tho

with galvanic shard

plasma also works but requires specific setup to be good

grenades are gonna suck unless you plan to annoint the +1 grenade

and even then they just arent gonna be good without bunch of nade nodes

[graceful slate]

I haven't reached the endgame yet to be fair

I'm still trynna find a but that seems fun lol

[mellow wigeon]

shockburts rounds for when you apply shock

[graceful slate]

I'll send a rough skill tree in a min

[thorny token]

i have tree for that build already as well if you want as i made one for myself when i was deciding between doing deadeye or invoker

(went deadeye in the end)

[still rock]

Everyones deadeye and the points dont even matter

[mystic shard]

Is it increased block chance that affects saffels frame?

[thin basin]

no

[mystic shard]

bashes head against fucking wall lol

i dnt see any passives for maximum block chance I guess?

[still rock]

are ppl taking max res? I had prism guard and the +max res nodes around it and it felt underwhelming, maybe just not enough?

[thin basin]

yea i dont tnink theres any on the tree

usually atleast 1 or 2 something

[thorny token]

there is not enough of it on tree (max res) but if you are left side you have no otheroption for ele defenses realy

[thin basin]

for max block that is

[mystic shard]

I hate relying too much on gear

ok saffels is a dead end I guess

[floral folio]

this looks like it would work good with reality bending from monk right? or is my thinking wrong

[still rock]

Yeah felt the same but i just decided to lean into more evasion and ignore going up that far and it felt infinitely better lol

[graceful slate]

Why Deadeye?

[thorny token]

damage, also my plan the whole time was to try and use plasma blast

[graceful slate]

Oh ok

[thorny token]

but i leveled both deadeye and invoker until i decided lul

invoker is much tankier tho

so its not bad option

[graceful slate]

Do you have the Invoker tree still?

[thorny token]

and shocked ground is very nice for shockburst

i posted the tree above i think

didnt i

i can post again i geuss

i only have screenshot tho not planner link

but i think its clear enough

[graceful slate]

Oh you didn't get any of the Crossy nodes?

[thorny token]

nah

they are giga point inefficient and also only good crossbow nodes are the ones with reload speed

[graceful slate]

Also, do you think Invoker would perform better than Witch Hunter?

[thorny token]

yea

[graceful slate]

Nice

[thorny token]

also for invoker stuff i planned to click was this

[graceful slate]

How important are Evasion and Shield nodes?

[thorny token]

well es + eva is op

so very important

[graceful slate]

Gotcha

[thorny token]

and you want hybrid chest on invoker anyway for lead me through grace

[graceful slate]

Gotcha

Is Sunder My Enemies... not worth it?

[thorny token]

there is plenty of pen on tree and going crit on crossbows isnt good imo

[graceful slate]

Fair enough

So you went full elemental and no crit then?

[thorny token]

yea

with electrocute

[graceful slate]

What makes crit not good?

On Crossies

[thorny token]

they have 5% base crit only

[graceful slate]

Zamn

[thorny token]

also shockburst does shitton of damage anyway so its not like you will be lacking

for gem setup my plan there was mostly:
shockburst, galvanic, stormcaller arrow, emergency reload, blasphemy temp chains, herald of thunder, wind dancer, ghost dance, grim feast

[graceful slate]

Hmm

Sounds good

[thorny token]

blasphemy temp chains is mostly just something i like you can do some cast on shock stuff for more damage instead too

[graceful slate]

Speaking of lightning, I was also hoping there would be some sinergy between the Bow's Lightning Rod skill and other lightning ones

It's lowkey disappointing

[lunar flume]

Would this work? Titan Spark Caster, 50% more effect's from small nodes so you'll have a bunch of int just from the tree.

[thorny token]

i mean half of bow stuff is forced to go rod

[graceful slate]

I was gonna level up as a Sorc w/ Sparks and Lightning Rod but they don't mix

[thorny token]

like best use of rod is to use it with ball lightning and oos lul

for triggers

[still rock]

That doesn't work on the attribute nodes

[thorny token]

obviously you are still attack build not caster

[graceful slate]

I just want Righteous Fire 😔

It's so monotone that it starts getting fun

[fleet tundra]

Can you make a warrior around pure phys burst damage? How important is it to stack another layer of multiplicative damage via bleed or ignite. I've been thinking about something around the multiplicative nodes for more dmg vs stunned enemies but I wonder if adding bleed on top of that just makes it better

[thorny token]

never rly liked rf so couldnt tell you :d but decompose is somewhat close if you want walking simulator

played it for a bit and its strong skill

but sometimes annoying

[night surge]

is projectile damage and crossbow damage basically the same if i do damage with galvanic shards?

[thorny token]

yes

[night surge]

thanks

so, attack damage, projectile damage, crossbow damage, all the same?

[thorny token]

yes

[night surge]

thank you

[thorny token]

most hammer builds add ignite on top, bleed is a bit more anoying to add due to how it works but might work too

[lunar flume]

Oh, miss-read the wording a bit, well, dream over, gg wp go next.

[fleet tundra]

Also rage is increased dmg not more damage right?

[thorny token]

it is more damage

[fleet tundra]

Ok thank you!!

[graceful slate]

Is Eletrocute kinda like a Stun?

[thorny token]

its like better stun

[graceful slate]

Oh

[thorny token]

and better freeze

[rough aurora]

Does anyone know the maths behind the Timeless Jewel? esp for gemling? I do have 1100 evasion, 500 int. It should add 250% Evasion but i only get ~300 more

[graceful slate]

[rough aurora]

idk if gemling scaling double it tho

[thorny token]

the timeless jewels do not get doubled on gemling afaik

[thin basin]

can u both shock n electrocute at same time on same spell? or do u need the glove to do that

[thorny token]

need the glove

as the support disables shock

technically you can also shock and electrocute by defualty with electrocuting arrow

but who uses that

[rough aurora]

Yea but thats still 250% at 500 int then. 1100 rating without should add way more than 300...not?

[thorny token]

it should assuming you dont have other increases to eva

[mystic shard]

id love to use % dmg from life to mana, but I wanan build energy shield not life.

AS building life seems so impossible, any way for this to work even on my energy shield?

[thorny token]

nope

[thin basin]

those glove worth it for sparkmage?

[thorny token]

those gloves are op

imo

would use on every loightning build

[thin basin]

but thats like a glvoe slot

[mystic shard]

it seems u can only really build hp, very late game,w ith very late stuff sigh

[thorny token]

just dont be poor get stats elsewhere smh

[thorny token]

and even then its worse than es

but es is just giga overtuned and life is pretty undertuned so have to live with it

until they fix it

[rough aurora]

Also...the int one doesnt. Some dude said on yt his strength one for energy shield is 1% per str but dont have it to test.

[fleet tundra]

Are ignite titans always in avatar of fire? I'm kinda hesitant to go pure ele dmg because you get a lot of free pen from devastate

Can the explosion from armor explosion ignite people

[thorny token]

nah the stregth one is not being doubled either

so the dude on yt was just lying most likely

my info about the timeless jewel not doubling comes from someone testing the str one in first place and it not working

[thin basin]

thats 100~ es, 70 life, 150 mana, some crit maybe or potential 100 resists😭

[thorny token]

for perma stun on everything in map

pretty worth

[thin basin]

in reality its really just 100 resist and maybe 500ish mana after all the increases

[thorny token]

there arent that many mana increases so probs even less. but yea can alawys just try it on for few maps and swap back if you dont like it

[thin basin]

i guess you want either double socket or less speed corrupt

[thorny token]

probs double socket

[graceful slate]

Not worth it?

[thorny token]

its worth it but too much pathing

from invoker at least

[graceful slate]

Fair enough

[thin basin]

2 socket 10 allres dont sound too bad

[thorny token]

can also just annoint coursing energy

that annoint is very chea (compared to other annoints at least:d)

[graceful slate]

Aighty

It's my first time making a build by the way

I figured PoE2 might be simpler because of the lack of options

And it feels a lot simpler as well

The tree also looks smaller, am I tweakin?

[thorny token]

i think its slightly bigger or similar

[grizzled mulch]

i dont think its smaller but the tree is pretty boring compared to poe1

[thorny token]

but poe2 tree is just full of random stuff next to eachother

so you dont even look at half of the nodes

its kind of a mess

[graceful slate]

Yeah that's true

They could group things a lil better

Doesn't feel right having lightning related nodes in opposite sites

[lethal depot]

is it possible to lvl a necro infernalist without an srs wall of fire setup, realistically?

[thorny token]

or at least they should add masteries, was pretty nice solution in poe1

if they hate putting similar stuf next to eachother

[thorny token]

sure. stuff will just take longer on worse setup vs better setup

[thin basin]

mana or all res? or do i dare say rarity

[thorny token]

but you would need tohave next tier garbage setup for i to be impossible to lvl

[thorny token]

i mean depends on what you need i guess :d

if you dont need nything then yeaobvs rarity op

[lethal depot]

i guess i worded it poorly, is there an alternative with similar viability

cuz its basically free dmg but the screen clutter and perfomance cost is heinous

[thorny token]

can just level with arsonists only i guess

[graceful slate]

I still don't understand how weapon set passives work

[lethal depot]

thatd be half dps, so srs is basically the only option

[graceful slate]

Are they just bonus passive points limited to one weapon set?

[thorny token]

they are not bonus

[vagrant imp]

They are not bonus, but yes they are limited based on the weapon set.

[thorny token]

they are extra passives like in poe1 in campaign. but you can allocate them for each weapon separately, or you can just allocate them as part of your normal passive tree

you can click the arrow thingies in top left to pick either wep 1 or wep 2 passives

and then allocate for those

[graceful slate]

Aighty

[thorny token]

if you are doing shockburst then you def want to utilize that

[graceful slate]

How important is this?

[thorny token]

itslike best invoker node on tree

dont you like having poe1 trickster on tree

[graceful slate]

I dunno a thing about making builds

[thorny token]

im grabbing thatshit even on deadeye

[graceful slate]

Me

I see you got quite a few Flask nodes

Why's that?

[thorny token]

eternal youth, but i think i overinvested in them by a bit so not all of them are needed most likely

savouring might not be needed with half decent belt

[scenic goblet]

can i equip the same weapon on both weaopn slots

[dawn heath]

Got the attrition buff for zarokh but it doesn't show anywhere despite being active

[graceful slate]

Should I replace Savouring with Shadow Dancing?

[dawn heath]

Seems like it goes on the pile of bugs. Hope it's just not displaying

[thorny token]

you can but i think shadow dancing is pretty meh

[graceful slate]

Hmm aight

[thorny token]

nope, you need to get second one that is same :d

[scenic goblet]

:d

unfortunate

[thorny token]

hopefully that will be changed tho because its def annoying

[scenic goblet]

yeah

[graceful slate]

Taste for Blood seems really strong early on

But I suppose it's quite weak in the endgame, no?

Or is 30HP per kill still decent?

[thorny token]

yea and its also a lot of points just to get to it

[graceful slate]

I mean the way I'm planning I'm right beside it

[ivory island]

how do ya lvl up monk? feels so slow in the early levels

[thorny token]

then you can grab it but imo cannibalism is plenty

and using up 3 points early also hurts a lot your damage

btw you are wasting 2 points here as the middle connects

well either 2 or 3, you can also just remove the middle connection at bottom but i think its slightly better because it gives bunch of dex so you can put other smalls to other attribute reqs

[west epoch]

Is there a general concensus on which is better between arc and spark?

[thorny token]

spark is better

arc technically does more damage until very high investment into proj speed and duration on spark

but arc clear is like

much worse

[thin basin]

how much do u know about electrocute db i got some questions

[thorny token]

i mean it works pretty much the same as freeze, what do you need to know?

[thin basin]

ig my questions r pretty simple can u chain it like old freeze before they nerfed it

[graceful slate]

I'm gonna remove the 2 attribute nodes above the arrow

[west epoch]

have to agree in situations where theres more than 3 mobs, but im literally end of act 1 with nothing

[graceful slate]

I forgot to do it lol

[thorny token]

i liked spark early as well

with mana tempest and flame wall its pretty good

[thorny token]

you get very slowed buildup after electrocute just like with freeze

[west epoch]

Mana tempest?

[thorny token]

yea gives you chain and damage for pretty much free

[west epoch]

is that a node or skill?

[thorny token]

skill

buff you "have" to stand in but in reality you put qual on it and then its prett much perma:d

[graceful slate]

I got 96/123 points

[magic pier]

so chat
tf does "Remembrancing 5323 songworthy deeds by the line of Olroth Passives in radius are Conquered by the Kalguur" mean

[thorny token]

number determines seed (so notables it will replace on tree), name determines keystone

[magic pier]

what

does it replace a chunk of the passive tree?

[west epoch]

Oh shit those are in poe2 as well????????

[thorny token]

it replaces notables in radius

wth other notables

[cold onyx]

Can you do cast on crit and cast on shock?

[magic pier]

holy shit

[thorny token]

and it replaces keystones in radius with keystone based on name of the jewel

[thorny token]

yea and they are pretty op

[vagrant imp]

Timeless jewels are the most impenetrable thing in the game, you will need a third party reference to know what they do.

[west epoch]

yeah they were build defining there too

[thorny token]

well they are def not impenetrable as the seeds were reverse engineered in poe1 :d

[thin basin]

are these the only ones?

[thorny token]

yea

[vital plume]

how do you scale item rarity super high?

[thorny token]

by grabbing it on every affix (and runes) and using the ring effect belt

[vital plume]

if u dont have belt/runes is it even worth doing

[thorny token]

yes

[graceful slate]

Seems solid enough to start a new character no?

[thorny token]

rarity has harsh diminishing returns so the investment gets worse the more of it you have

[vocal wave]

Want to add runes to a bow, doing a poison ranger. Does the physical damage affect poison dot ?

[vagrant imp]

Every little bit of item rarity counts.

[graceful slate]

I could always adjust it later on

Could get +3 points from the +HP on Kill nodes

[thorny token]

shouldnt you just pat through here instead

[graceful slate]

That way I won't get the Shock nodes below

[vital plume]

worth using the gloves to make kills that arent mine count as mine even if u dont have the belt and runes

[vagrant imp]

Idk about that long detour for those lightning nodes.

[vital plume]

cus u cant scale it as high yknow

[thorny token]

you do

its just 3 points pathing from top and 4 points from right

so no reason to path from right

[graceful slate]

Oh yeah

[thorny token]

and when pathing from top theres bunch of other good nodes there

you can click

[graceful slate]

True true

[thorny token]

i mean are you in party or not

[cold onyx]

Can u have multiple trigger auras? CoC and COshock

[thorny token]

because thats like the only use for the gloves no

[vital plume]

yeah i play with a friend, we just usually dont party cus the scaling is annoying

[thorny token]

then yea grab them at least when playing with friend

[graceful slate]

Kinda looks like a face

[vital plume]

what pieces of gear can u get rarity on

[thin basin]

still in act but the glove is pretty nice

[hasty nebula]

Do the different passive tree nodes have special names for the small nodes, large nodes (like heart tissue)and special nodes(like blood magic)

[thorny token]

looks ok. you should grab the shcok nodes with weapon passives tho

as i said earlier

[spring atlas]

For quivers: Is % increase to bow skills more damage than than flat damage increases? Like from phys, cold, or lightning?

[thorny token]

as you mostly will want them only on stormcaller arrow

the bottom ones

[graceful slate]

Oooh yeah

[thorny token]

and then for crossbow grab damage nodes on the left path and eva nodes

[graceful slate]

I forgot about that

[thorny token]

will look way better

with those weapon points as well

[west epoch]

So deathbeam, i should just try to focus on spark and drop arc entirely? I saw some %Chance to chain nodes to the NE of start, are those worth it for spark to get more damage?

[graceful slate]

I'll take care of it tomorrow then

[thorny token]

depends on your weapon heavily

[graceful slate]

Thanks for the advice

[mystic shard]

I wanna use this but the ES is dogshit, is there any way to make it like really good late game ES wise?

[thorny token]

chain is only good for clear but yes those are worth for spark

also for now imo you can do both spark and arc

especially if you are in early acts no reason not to have arc setup for single

[lone wave]

With Subterfuge Mask (on a ranger), would you choose to use a int helm for more energy shield and passive conversion, or a dex-int helm for access to a % evasion modifier?

[west epoch]

i feel like spark does better single target though, it's wierd

maybe im just getting really lucky on bounces?

[frosty arrow]

Well, most uniques trade off raw implicit stats for effects. There's nothing you can do to make that ES shoot up. Put a rune in, that's it

[west epoch]

thats why i was so split on which to focus on for now..

[thorny token]

arc def does quite a bit more early, but if boss is next to wall spark can do a lot

you will be grabbing mostly same stuff for both anyway in the end

[mystic shard]

this game's a fucking pain in the ass I swear

[thorny token]

so like keep both imo and if you feel like you arent using arc at all

and spark is performing fine

then drop arc

[mystic shard]

Spark>arc

I mean ark is literally just lesser spark

Sp-ark

It's spark with 2 less letters!

[frosty arrow]

I mean, if you want high ES just get an item with high ES. It might workout better. That effect is too random to rely on it to protect you

[thorny token]

lul true :d

[mystic shard]

discount spark! =P

[mystic shard]

I mean it's some god flat DR 50% of the time.

It's far too worth to me.

Im not gonan fully rely, but it will help

[frosty arrow]

Is it flat though? I feel like it can be multiplicative. In which case it's worthless

[west epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/rimshot-pun-joke-ba-dum-tss-drum-gif-15808941

[thorny token]

it is multiplicative with other sources of less damage taken

but there are no other sources basically

lul

[astral gale]

How can i increase spirit as monk?

[frosty arrow]

So it's dogshit then

[astral gale]

I have only 30 from act 1 boss fight

[thorny token]

no it means theres no difference between it being multiplicativeand additve

[mystic shard]

**interestingly, if you got all 48 jewell slots, and put all those perfect 2% hp scaling gems in them.

(Grand Spectrums) (Rubies)

You'd get 1152%+ max hp.

So thats one way to get omega godly hp.**

[thorny token]

but yes i think it is dogshit

[vagrant imp]

If you're invoker ascendancy you can get extra spirit from body armor evasion/es

[frosty arrow]

You get 60 spirit from normal campaign, then another 40 on cruel. Totaling 100 just from a playthrough

[thorny token]

beause these rotation effects were always dogshit even in first game

[mystic shard]

but it takes all those omega rare perfect rubies

[thorny token]

and in poe2 helmet is second biggest source of stats

after chest

[astral gale]

Oky

[thorny token]

defensive stats i mean

[west epoch]

And you said duration and proj speed are BIS for spark?

[thorny token]

so using rando unique not amazing

[thorny token]

yes

you want both acceleration and presistence as your first 2 supports

[west epoch]

okie, thats what i was experimenting with

[frosty arrow]

There are some super powerful unique helmets without super stats. But this just ain't it IMO

[thorny token]

on spark

[mystic shard]

grand spectrums*

[thorny token]

doesnt grand spectrum has limit of 3

pretty sure it does

[west epoch]

thanks for the help mate, you really gotta think a lot harder on stuff in this version compared to poe1

[mystic shard]

it doesnt say that

[west epoch]

and it's incredible the whiplash i feel as a vet from poe1 xD

[dense beacon]

What are some must-haves for MoM+EB

[vagrant imp]

lol

[mystic shard]

ah actually it does

welp

thats that idae out the window

[fringe cape]

How do I check my shock chance on skeleton minions??

[frosty arrow]

How rare are those rubies. I'd kill for some of them on my stat stacking build

[mystic shard]

ok I guess the hp bbuild really is fucked unless I get moriors grand regalia and that's just a pipe dream

[thorny token]

half of it is just not having pob because imo this game is much simpler at least so far

[west epoch]

yeah honestly true

[thorny token]

on top of new mechanics ppl arent used to yet ofc

[frosty arrow]

I mean, the passive tree is clearly still unfinished. There are so many obvious placeholder node clusters

[west epoch]

and flail and claw nodes on the tree too

[vagrant imp]

Fairly rare, but they cost like 2 div right now.

[west epoch]

and axe, even

[thorny token]

there isnt even claw cluster on tree btw

the "claw" one is for shapeshifting

not for actual claw

[west epoch]

oh you got me

damn

[thorny token]

every other weapon type has weapon cluster at least placeholder one

so maybe they just ditched claws

[vagrant imp]

Claws aren't planned for the game rn

[thorny token]

whcih i dont think anyone will be sad about

[frosty arrow]

All the unreleased weapon nodes are pretty much blanks with just +damage%, even major nodes. But even stuff that's used. A lot of it feels thrown together

[thorny token]

because in the end claws and daggers have like too big overlap anyway

[west epoch]

yeah

but claws in poe1 had life on hit

so who knows

[vagrant imp]

I think they would rather support unarmed/shapeshift than claws

[thorny token]

yea they arent giving you rando 30 lgoh implicit in this game i dont think

lul

[mystic shard]

wtf does this mean?

[west epoch]

you say that but they basically gave un nerfed vaal pact back

[thorny token]

wel they nerfed leech itself

[vagrant imp]

You can allocate any node in its radius without needing the small nodes to connect it to the rest of your tree

[thorny token]

to add that

[west epoch]

ye ye im just being a smartass :P

[frosty arrow]

In general lack of flat additives on the tree is annoying. Enjoy all that life leech, if you're lucky with gear. Also, no health% nodes is infuriating. There's like one, and it's pathetic 3%

[thorny token]

they definitely did some very questionable additions tho so who knows

but they are very stingy on life recovery

[vagrant imp]

I prefer no life on the tree

[west epoch]

theres also some flat life on the tree by witch/ele start

[thorny token]

the no life on tree while buffing es nodes is def the weirdedst thing to me

[frosty arrow]

This just leaves life stackers watch ES builds have five times larger buffer with quarter of points invested. That's even assuming they get armor to work

[thorny token]

and not adding any alternative good defenses on tree

instead of life nodes

like thats what i expected at least they get rid of life

[vagrant imp]

That's a balance issue, not an issue with the idea of no life on tree, lol

[thorny token]

and put some good mitigation on tree instead

but the defensive nodes on tree that arent life and es are just worse than poe1 even lul

[west epoch]

...yeah i saw a video on armor

[frosty arrow]

I think everyone agreed the other day that red portion of the tree needs damage taken conversion nodes

[west epoch]

and it showed this guy getting nearly 10k es with no problem

[frail swan]

my frost monk is in act 3 doing 700dps with frost strike, what trees would be good for improving the damage? ive gotten the staff perks on the right side of the tree and a lot of frost build up but need more damage output

[vagrant imp]

Mass conversion before the game is even released would be disastrous

[thorny token]

just putting bunch of max res to left side is also fine thats how it was solved in first game but 1 cluster aint it

[frosty arrow]

Not mass conversions. Some conversions

[thorny token]

yea random 60% inc es notables do that to builds :d

[frosty arrow]

At least something to diversify defenses

[thorny token]

es is literally treated like armour or evasion int his game its actually wild

[west epoch]

yeah...

and the fact that i seem to be doing more damage than my melee builds and taking less damage cause i have more eHP

it's kind of sad

i was really enjoying my slam build

[thorny token]

to be fair melee builds do some good damage in this game

[west epoch]

oh yeah true

[chilly aurora]

what's the best anoint a lightning deadeye can get besides lightning rod? I already have it. Someone help pls

[thorny token]

at least hammer and perfect strike do

[brazen hamlet]

How many passive skill tree points are there? That you can get?

[vagrant imp]

Thing is the amount of ES on the tree is crazy AND the node quality is better than the armor nodes

[frosty arrow]

Right now there's two defense styles. Stack ES and chill, or do anything else and fight for your life. I think block at least is quite decent

[vagrant imp]

Every armor notable I looked at besides the crit defense one is so mediocre lol

[frosty arrow]

Yeah,armor nodes are quite sad and very diluted

[thorny token]

glancing def looked nice at least

[west epoch]

yeah i was using perfect strike for ST and volcanic fissure/EQ for clear

[sonic peak]

Acrobatics works fine

[frosty arrow]

Evasion has some decent major nodes

[thorny token]

but it needs more mitigation

[vagrant imp]

Glancing isn't needed tbh, it's too far out of the way

[sonic peak]

HP stacking is so good if you get some jewels I heard

[thorny token]

evasion most importantly has wind dancer and ghost dance

armour and left side has pile of garbage

called scavenged plating

[vagrant imp]

you just get block affix on shield and like 3 block notables and you're capped

[west epoch]

Oh deathbeam, last question, does orb of storms trigger arcs on ANY lightning spell or only on spells that chain? Skill description is misleading

[thorny token]

and no other usable defensive reservation either

something like infernalist node could easily also be reservation imo

[west epoch]

and i cant tell cause the visual is super small

[thorny token]

or just phys + fire + cold taken as fire

[vagrant imp]

Dude wdym, defiance banner is definitely comparable to grim feast

[thorny token]

as reservation

would be soo good

[thorny token]

any lightning skill

same as in poe1 pretty much

[marble magnet]

I got a question, I just got elemental invocation but when I enable it the spirit doesn’t go down, is that normal?

[thorny token]

you can use lightning arrow inside of orb of storms and it will trigger it

[thorny token]

do you have any skill linked to it yet

[vagrant imp]

but yeah the mace spirit gems are basically all bad.

[thorny token]

as it doesnt enable itself unleess it can activate something

[vagrant imp]

time of need is so horrifically bad

[lone wave]

ah yes, the banners, because what I want from my persistent skills is something that isn't persistent...

[marble magnet]

You can link skills to it?

[thorny token]

its meta gem so yea

you colled energy by freezing shit etc

and then you press the button and it will trigger linked stuff

its not better than cast on x for most builds

but for some its good

[marble magnet]

I’m running flurry and tempest rn

I’m also on console and running through these menus is annoying

[thorny token]

for you cast on shock would be probs better

if you want to trigger stuff if not then not

[west epoch]

Whats a good cast on shock target for elementalist? conduit?

[marble magnet]

So is it just automatically on since it’s a passive if not then how do I connect it

[thorny token]

yea

can also put conductivity there or orb of storms if you are lazy

[west epoch]

i dont mind the manual cast of those

[compact stream]

is it better to have a higher evasion or higher armor?

[thorny token]

its a gem no so you put other gem to sockets, or are you talking about elemental expression?

[thorny token]

evasion

but if you are left side dont force evasion just go block instead

[marble magnet]

Elemental invocation it’s a spirit one, it only lets me put support gems not skill ones in it

[cold spire]

What's the best way to build a Fire spell build? Crit? DoT ignite? Multiplier + res penetration?

[thorny token]

yea it should def allow to socket skill gems inside

but only spells

not attacks

you can put again as i said earlier to someone else stuff like orb of storms with font of rage or whatever inside

or curse

or ball lightning to fast proc your tempest bell

[west epoch]

Dumb question, can you find %quality gems on the ground?

[thorny token]

no

[west epoch]

or like %Quality uncuts

[vital crow]

div or no?

can go up to 666%

[thorny token]

nah uncuts cant have quality

[west epoch]

oh gotcha

[thorny token]

so have to cut and then gcp it

[supple jay]

how necessary are the 15% increase life regen jewels for perma uptime demon form build?
they're kinda pricey

[jagged thunder]

is this also or instead

the armour applies to elemental

[cold spire]

To me It never worked

[keen spindle]

since it increases storm wave damage, does it mean that storm wave is considered melee damage even tho its a projectile i think?

[west epoch]

can you find uncuts withmore than 2 sockets? Just hesitant to spend resources

[vagrant imp]

if it has the melee tag it is melee damage.

[keen spindle]

oh isee

thnx!

[quiet nova]

Are the +5% to Block Chance addative? Meaning if I have 35% block chance, and I then get this passive, my new block chance is 40%?

[vagrant imp]

No, they are increases. if you have 40 base block chance that node will make it 42.

[raw geyser]

Does monk want the 10% chaos resistance from the snake poison or something else?

[quiet nova]

So it's like the base is 40, and you add 5% into that which the math would be like 40 times 0.05?

[vagrant imp]

Yep

[vagrant imp]

Most builds will want the chaos resistance if they aren't going chaos innoculation. Chaos res is hard to come by.

[quiet nova]

It's not that tough to get, you can get soul cores, and buy cheap corrupted jewels with chaos res

[thorny token]

i just grabbed 5 attribs on all my chars

the suffx value is similar and i would rather wear my items than survive chaos hit

[vagrant imp]

SOul cores and bad jewels have opportunity cost which IMo is steeper than losing out on 5 attributes

[halcyon solar]

Do you need certain level or attribute requirements when using Orb of Chance to gamble for Headhutner. I mean like on your Heavy Belt?

[jade root]

If I had to bet the item level for the belt needs to be at least level 50 since that’s the requirement for the belt. There hasn’t been much extensive testing on that that I’m aware of but I wouldn’t try chancing a belt that’s item level is lower than 50.

[halcyon solar]

Level requirement you mean?

[pine mulch]

Ilvl

[halcyon solar]

all that Headhunter states is: Requires lvl 50

[supple jay]

bump

[pine mulch]

We mean item level over 50

[jade root]

Item level is when you hover over the item and hold alt, the belt will have a required level and an item level, the item level should be 50 or higher.

[jade root]

50% increased life regen is the difference between capping out at 300 demon form stacks or 450.

So just pay attention to how they impact your life regen rate and decide whether you need the extra regen or not for your particular build

[halcyon solar]

yeah sure, but regarding Headhunter you can't find anything regarding Ilvl on poedb. So you think Itemlvl BELOW or ABOVE 50?

[supple jay]

yeah by the time you get to that many stacks the map/boss should be over no?

[jade root]

Headhunter has a required level of 50, meaning the belt won’t drop from monsters with an item level lower than 50

[brave wasp]

Is there a way to make ice strike both freeze and shock?

[jade root]

Should be, but there’s a lot of variables to it, honestly you’re probably fine with 12-13% jewels, maybe even lower but I don’t know your build so not certain

[supple jay]

gonna do chaos spam

[vagrant imp]

if we're talking just with ice strike you'll need good added lightning damage/extra damage as lightning. You can also just setup other things like charged staff to shock instead.

[halcyon solar]

meaning the heavy Belt should have a minimum lvl requ. of 50 then as i mentioned initially?

[jade root]

Minimum item level of 50 not required level of 50

[halcyon solar]

thanks ❤️

[jade root]

Hold alt while looking at a heavy belt, there are two levels, item level and required level, you want item level 50+

[brave wasp]

these gloves should work too, right? only issue is how to apply exposure and curses, because to scale dmg I'd have to effectively reduce res for multiple elements

[vagrant imp]

IF you do enough damage, yes.

[marble magnet]

So I finally got a spell on it elemental invocation and charged it to 100 but nothing happened

[thorny token]

you need to manually press it also

[marble magnet]

At 100 charge?

[thorny token]

well its max energy is 500

[split coyote]

how does blood mage ascendancy and CI work? does anyone know? thinking about making another character - thanks

[thorny token]

but if the spell socketed costs less energy

then using it sooner should work

[split coyote]

specifically life cost for spells with 1max hp

[supple jay]

chaos dot spam specifically

I guess there is the strat of purposely waiting to build demon form stacks so that you do more damage and the map is easier

and that warrants pushing your max stacks as high as you can

but that sounds dumb so I prolly wont be trying to push for max stacks that much

[jade root]

Yeah that doesn’t work

[split coyote]

ok thanks

[halcyon solar]

so far i destroyed 5 Heaby Belts with Orb of Chance 😦 5 to go

[wraith egret]

CI does count as low life tho in poe 2

[olive harbor]

if an item says increased energy shield that is for the item and not your character right?

[wraith egret]

yeah except amulets those are global increases

[jade root]

Do don’t think it does, otherwise magic find builds would run wanderlust, where’d you read about it counting as low life?

[vagrant imp]

It counts as both full and low life

Clearly unintended

[wraith egret]

I am telling you it does not an argument

[jade root]

That is interesting

[wraith egret]

its not worth the 15% move speed for 20 rarity

[jade root]

And good to know

Thank you

[wraith egret]

unless you are temporalis

[jade root]

Or unless you’re a pure rarity support for a party

Even then the speed is arguable

[wraith egret]

keeping up is more important then the 20%

[jade root]

It can vary from group to group and map to map, there’s some maps and groups you won’t feel the movespeed as much. But typically you’d rather find a faster group/map over the extra 20% rarity

[timid dragon]

im lightning arrow ranger what rune would be best for a chest piece?

[plush knot]

what do you guys think for an instill for a lvl 92 CI infernalist (arsonists)

es boost?

doesnt seem to be any minion dmg nodes worth going for

[wraith egret]

do you struggle with anything? freeze, just dying, mana regen or do you just want dmg

[jade root]

If you don’t have it the freeze threshold based on 100% of your ES is a strong option

[plush knot]

was thinking this, but tbh id rather have higher dps than more tankiness

[plush knot]

dmg really

[wraith egret]

i could have helped you with all the others lmao idk what you need to best scale dmg

[plush knot]

haha same

[jade root]

Stuff related to curses or exposure can be good for damage if they’re relevant to your build

[plush knot]

oh yeah for sure, good call

[jade root]

For arsonists fire exposure from hell hound is a great option

[plush knot]

i have that just looking to instill something on my amulet

squeeze out some extra dps

[wraith egret]

all the decent nodes are so expensive to annoint lmao

2x the while oil

[plush knot]

yeah id have to buy some

[wraith egret]

do you have cremation?

[plush knot]

oh shit thats a great call

[wraith egret]

idk how minions work do they take your pen or do they have their own

either way the exposure isnt bad

but its also not cheap

money might be spent better elsewhere

[plush knot]

yeah thats a pricey one

[wraith egret]

i want lightning rod for my build but also dont really need dmg rn bc i run a duo and im here for rarity

[jade root]

Minions don’t have pen

So the only way to up their “pen” is curses and exposure that lower the enemy resists

[vagrant imp]

It's also worth considering a weapon swap for curse effect nodes. You can really juice your curse effect with those at no cost to your minion dps/tankiness. I believe you will lose your minions momentarily though

due to spirit loss, unelss you have similar sceptre on the swap

[wraith egret]

weapon swap curse is the move 100%

[wraith egret]

just getting a spirit stat stick should be cheap

or maybe getting the minions back isnt bad, i dont know shit about minions

[jade root]

Spirit stat stick is pretty cheap

Unless you’ve got some insane like 90% spirit +4 scepter as your main hand

[sharp vortex]

I mean a sigil.staff is useful to have

[wraith egret]

im a sigil staff enjoyer i just dont know how annoying it is to get your minions back after ever weapon swap

[sharp vortex]

Any reason u not grabbing the node that gives +15% more lightning dmg?

[sharp vortex]

Not at all

U can set it to auto swap back

[wraith egret]

which? near the chain node?

[sharp vortex]

Far right

[vagrant imp]

They will just come back, all the minions in the game right now are pretty much instant and don't require setup

[sharp vortex]

U need to use like 10 points to get it

But it's very worth

[pastel holly]

Does gain # life per hit with attacks affect spells too? The mod is on gloves btw

[sharp vortex]

Since its 15% more

[sharp vortex]

No

[vagrant imp]

Spells are not attacks, so no

[sharp vortex]

Spells not atks

[pastel holly]

😦

[wraith egret]

ah more max yeah i mean if i was pushing damage super hard i would but 10 points right now is a stretch lmao

would also wait to have lightning rod

[wet mango]

how much crit chance are you feasibly able to get

[wet mango]

sometimes the instance desyncs and you can't do anything in town

[wet mango]

yes, if you have 3, each gives 6%

[alpine summit]

has anyone tried blood mage but with crossbow?

[dawn tusk]

hello guys quick question anyone tried a critical build for stormweaver ? on the passiv tree there are a lot of crit chance/crit damage options

[frosty arrow]

What are some funny ideas for a build with that unique 2-hander that always Crits but does no extra damage on Crit

There's gotta be some fun on Crit effects to exploit

[mystic shard]

electrocution arrow, that makes u leap over people, are u unhittable by all during this or?

[sharp vortex]

Wdym

[wraith egret]

trying it also anointed lightning rod should be a big jump in dmg, dropped some stun threshhold and crit.

[tender harbor]

Which cast on insert here is the most easy to cast atm? I know some nerfs have went through

[shadow blade]

Can someone help me? I need a way to light up poison clouds that i can spawn all over using the corpsewade greaves that have the decompose ability on them, but ideally passively, but i cant think of a way that doesnt destroy my build

im using galvanic shards and the three dragon helm to build up freeze then using fragmentation rounds to spread poison (with herald of plague) to enemies all around and mass killing things, but the greaves cause lots of gas clouds to spawn, that id like to explode passively somehow

see gameplay here

(aka fart explosion)

if this game had righteous fire id use it lol

[midnight bolt]

this looks very stinky

[fiery wave]

ever since i installed girm feast, i uninstalled brain

i feel like thats the thing thats gonna get nerfed

[shadow blade]

its very stinky

and also very fun

but would be nice if there was a passive way without needing to use an ability to proc those fart clouds

[magic snow]

Demon Form is pretty crazy, even without all the reduce life tech, ngl - been working on this lately, it's feeling pretty great. Still in the leveling process!

[fiery wave]

i think using the rings is a mistake i tried before

but you need everything optimally and then you still miss out on 2 source of rarity at the very least

maybe amulet and ghostwrithe is the sweet spot

i still like it better running capped

slower bossing but no need to transform and i run 110% magic find over 40, better resistances and i have 0 issue with clear

[halcyon solar]

I don't get it. My map doesn't say complete, yet it isn't pointing towards the last Rare pack. 19 monsters remaining. Any suggestions?

[wraith egret]

just happens sometimes

[delicate flower]

focus or shield on sorc spark?

[halcyon solar]

Is there any remedy for that? I 'm 100% all rares are dead.

[magic snow]

I don't much care for rarity tbh! But I understand what you mean. I plan on stacking life, es, (i currently have ghostwrithe and about 1800 max life before reductions) and hit some nice breach rings with big regen and life quality

[wraith egret]

go on to the next map

[wraith egret]

Mahuxotl's Machination with mana cores

[fiery wave]

idk i just stopped dropping currency

and t15 maps

to be hoenst i didnt do boss nodes tho

boss nodes is always at least 2

[magic snow]

I just took all the rarity on the atlas

[wraith egret]

get more rarity

[vagrant imp]

Radiant Grief Lace Hood unique ignites all enemies in your presence. It's what people use for easy automation on gas arrow/grende.

[fiery wave]

im not rich enough for that

[shadow blade]

feels like it should scale badly though into late game

it only does 100 flat dmg right?

[fiery wave]

i spent like half my bank account trying the uncapped df but yeah

[vagrant imp]

Currently the explosion does not care about the damage the ignite does, just that it ignites/does fire damage.

[fiery wave]

i felt everything is worse besides damage, so to make it really good i feel you need to be able to sustain at least 200 stacks

[vagrant imp]

the damage will be based on your corpsewade's skill for the explosion damage.

[fiery wave]

i was missing an amulet and some jewels to get there

[vagrant imp]

You may struggle with defenses with corpsewade and radiant grief slotted is more the issue

[magic snow]

i mean like

70 stacks feels crazy good at tier 11 during my leveling, I haven't gotten to tier 15 on this guy yet

But I feel like it should be fine

[fiery wave]

it will be fine

i mean if you dont run rings you dont have to compromise

[mystic shard]

**does electrocution arrow leap let you avoid hits from melee/projectiels whilst ur leaping over an enemy?

No avoid, but like auto evade?**

[quiet nova]

How important is 75% block chance in the meta?

[fiery wave]

so if you can demon form enough to refresh your transform

running 2 transforms

its mainly upside

i just like staying in the dodge

[magic snow]

feels mandatory for melee, but thats just because armor is so fucking bad

[vagrant imp]

It's very good, armor builds don't really function without it.

[shadow blade]

yeah thats my worry, and bossing capabilities

[vagrant imp]

Flame wall faster casting isn't automated but it is fast

[shadow blade]

i may just leave poison clouds up without detonation for now, hm

[quiet nova]

I'm working on a support build that involves Merit of Service giving my block chance to my squishy caster friends around me, they all run energy shield

[magic snow]

yeah, second wind feels a bit too good on demon form

[fiery wave]

i think youre doing it the right way tbh

how long do you need to ramp before you feel you clear well?

[shadow blade]

im running gemling atm with galvanic shards with glaciation to build up freeze then using poison prolif with fragmentation rounds to pop those freezes to mass detonate and destroy all frozen enemies

so my rotation is for mobbing galv -> frag -> high velocity rounds, was hoping there was something more hands off for a last way to proc those gas clouds without sacrificing much but maybe just having those clouds do DoT might be better

[magic snow]

at 11 i clear fine at 10 tbh, spark with insta stun and 100% crit chance orb of storm just kinda melts the screen

[fiery wave]

nice yeah

[magic snow]

I will let you know how it feels when I get to 15 tomorrow

[fiery wave]

i mean if you didnt adjust your jewels and passives specifically for sustain

every extra stack is just an upside

[magic snow]

My tree is this

Planned: https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgEBgh5x-3til_mW71NHrLPAXeevR3aKhNY8MAjOuMs5SiWqjc5XEnM-x_B-lD0CFX3hbiGo3mefT9LXLZi4SbueoZzz5AyPGjsAdCF5nzhVE990s9KgRSk4Sc8xdV8BY9VeZQ_bKI5V4AyzJ5OxB2YXCR_GQ5qPEOj2nG11pYtjsK2EJjZQxRD6Eac1nPChgebXQEq1hQp7nDmTwFOkXbbjj4qe82Ulx-FoOufiwWg-DYNfHQBx3IgYBZk9pt1_tiShL-pt4bCEelWvK_DZLLIBCnBua4v3VEC7Oy3dmNtmVH7ac6ujKNcIA4hvomr8cKfduk5AkIIHH2MThuNrYw2QKJ7zFkubAAA=

Current:

[fiery wave]

as i said i just run on 10 and the only downside is i need like 3-4 shots for rares and 3-4 minutes for a pinnacle boss 😄

[magic snow]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgEBdB5x-3til_mW71NHrLPAXeevR3aKhNY8MAjOuMs5SiWqjc5XEnM-x_B-lD0CFX3hbiGo3mefT9LXLZi4SbueoZzz5AyPGjsAdCF5nzhVE990s9KgRSk4Sc8xdV8BY9VeZQ_bKI5V4AyzsQdmFwkfEOj2nG11pYtjsK2EJjZQxRD6Eac1nPChgebXQEq1hQp7nDmTwFOkXbbjj4qe82Ulx-FoOufiwWg-DYNfHQBx3IgYBZk9pt1_tiShL-pt4bCEelWvK_DZLLIBCnBua4v3A4hvomr8cKfduk5AkIIHH2MThuNrYw2QKJ4AAA==

[shadow blade]

this might have an interesting niche lol

[fiery wave]

@magic snow are these crit nodes even good?

if they are good you should definitely path to stormcharged

i could never justify going crit on infernalist

[magic snow]

I understand the tree doesn't make a whole lot of sense for solo, it works fine for me tho

I have a support bot

that reduced 100% of all res

gives 80% extra all dmg

Our tech

[fiery wave]

i see

i was just wondering if it works with the low bae crit chance

because you only get to like idk 20% crit chance?

okay better way to is, i was wondering if you think it works efficiently for the points you spent

[magic snow]

It should

[grand tartan]

is stacking poison effects explosion damage when you detonate it?

[magic snow]

Mostly because ES is absolutely broken right now

And bonestorm gets enough crit to oneshot every rare on the screen

[fiery wave]

yeah i assume it will be effective either way

oh i thought u just use spark

bc of the cip

i tinkered with bonestorm

[mellow wigeon]

sorry for the late response. i've added 105% through passive tree.

[magic snow]

Bonestorm is my rare killer, I just clear with spark

[brittle lintel]

Mahuxotl's Machination
Omen Crest Shield guys is this good for archmage build?

[fiery wave]

but yeah its been days ive just been clicking solar orb and flameblast even tho i theorycrafted about every other spell xD

nice

i calculated for like 4h today just to come to the conclusion that flameblast is still best dps for me

[magic snow]

Man I really want incinerate to be good, I just cant be bothered to make something for it kek

[fiery wave]

i havent looked at it because it only ignites

and it makes you stop

[magic snow]

yea

exactly

[fiery wave]

im basically killing h alf the screen in 1.17 seconds

im just really slow on bosses

with 3m illion health

😄

but yeah bonestorm is very fun too

i wanted to make a triple element build first but then i realized im not a sorc

[vagrant imp]

The best incinerate focused build I've seen was actually on pathfinder for the less movespeed penalty + less movespeed penalty support

was actually relatively fast

[wet mango]

so you have like what, 10% crit chance? 15?

[lone wave]

I wish we could search trade site by affix name instead of stat entries

[fiery wave]

105% in passives is base chance times 2.05

its not super apparent on the surface

in my mind canon i added 50% effective dps today by getting ignite nodes but i cant tell if i ignite the boss with flameblast or if its just solar orb xD

[magic snow]

Orb of storms have 10% and potential support, bonestorm 15% and inevitable crit

Works fine

[silent crown]

Does the Electrocute Support Gem only account for projectile damage when applied to charged staff? Suppose I use charged staff and then tempest flurry, would my melee hits still count toward shock, where the projectiles from charged staff only goes toward Electrocute?

[fiery wave]

i was commenting on what lasagne commented on merky

[magic snow]

oh

nah im high mb

[fiery wave]

i know your shit works :}

[magic snow]

KEKW

[vagrant imp]

The larger ignite should take precedent if it works like PoE1, but I haven't played with ignite on poe2

[fiery wave]

it does

but the numbers go brrr

and i have to dodge every second

plus i go up in tiers

[wet mango]

? Yeah that's what I'm talking about

[fiery wave]

yes

[wet mango]

why do you think electrocute only counts for proj damage?

and what do you mean by "where the projectiles from charged staff only goes toward Electrocute?"

[silent crown]

If I'm putting that gem on charged staff

[wet mango]

right

[wet mango]

what does that have to do with proj damage

nowhere does the word "proj" appear in that support gem

[silent crown]

There's shit that literally shoots out of my staff while I use melee moves

[wet mango]

electrocute makes lightning dmaage unable to shock, but contribute to electrocute buildup instead

[fiery wave]

😄

[wet mango]

Also, Charged Staff doesn't do any damage

so you can't suport it with Electrocute

[fiery wave]

oldfashioned everything that is a thing is a tag on the gem in this game

[magic snow]

I was running the pain attunment helm for a while, but i feel like you lose too much ES, agree no?

[fiery wave]

i like having around 7k es so i probably agree @magic snow which one is it again?

[wet mango]

still, I don't understand

Does the Electrocute Support Gem only account for projectile damage when applied to charged staff?

[magic snow]

Crown of something

lemme check

[wet mango]

what is the interaction between proj damage and Electrocute suport

[silent crown]

So it'd be lightning damage across the board would be Electrocute only? Nothing i do would go toward shock

[fair widget]

they're asking about the "shockwave" portion of charged staff

[magic snow]

thats the one

[fair widget]

cause charged staff does 2 things, its a buff that gives oyu added lightning damage, but also makes your attacks launch lightning "projectiles"

[silent crown]

This right here

Sorry guys

[fiery wave]

hmmm yeah that one looks kinda bad to me @magic snow

[fair widget]

they're not actually projectiles cause its not a projectile tag, and instead its an aoe tag cause poe

[magic snow]

exactly hahahah

[fiery wave]

especially as you have the 70% extra es from helmet node, so you want to max that @magic snow

[wet mango]

1. Electrocute only applies to the supported skill. So Charged Staff would be unable to shock. But any lightning damage dealt by CS would contribute to Electrocute buildup.
2. ....it doesn't work like how you're imagining, because Charged Strike is not a skill that does damage. You can't even support it with Electrocute.

[magic snow]

but i was like, "you save 7 nodes bro"

[static thicket]

When do you get 6L on implicit spells, like the ones on wands/staffs/etc

[magic snow]

yeah I took those after I swapped out

[wise delta]

anyone have advice on what venom draught to get in cruel act 3?

im infernalist SRS witch

[silent crown]

I gotcha thank you

[wise delta]

ascendency so far

[magic snow]

hm

[fiery wave]

@magic snow what did you save nodes for? do you run self damage tech?

[magic snow]

Pain Attunment

[magic snow]

Chaos res is a bit too good i think

[wise delta]

so chaos res then?

[magic snow]

I think so yes