2┃build-planning

[dawn spire]

Imo, chronomancer's temporal rift + ES stacking is solid. I hear good things about grim feast gem.

Can also go Mind over matter + eldritch battery (+CI)

[last patio]

what's your go to for recharging the shield? as sorc

[plain osprey]

I don't play sorc so I can't really help there, but my guess would be get Eternal Youth and use your potions to recharge it cuz why not

[rapid wadi]

suggestions for keeping flasks charged during boss fights?

[last patio]

okidoki

[eternal raptor]

is ranger the best pick for gas cloud?

[plain osprey]

Other than that, ES regen nodes

[dawn spire]

As a chrono that has mostly life, I don't really rely on my flask, regen, or anything. I'm almost entirely getting my hp back via rift

[tribal salmon]

what is a meta skill?

[dawn spire]

A spirit gem that triggers other skills. "Cast on X" is the most common naming convention

[tribal salmon]

alr ty

[dawn spire]

All classes can use all skills. Pathfinder (a ranger ascendancy) has some poison nodes that might help. But it really depends on what flavor of gas arrow you wanna play

[eternal raptor]

the explo part

i dont know if they already patched it but i acquired a radiant grief

[pine lily]

I'm wondering if a quarterstaff sorc build would be viable. Like the lightning/cold beams build that monks are doing ATM. How much worse would it be? Anyone already done that work?

[dawn spire]

It seems fine to me. Though idk exactly what nodes you'd take as stormweaver. Can always go chrono as well. Everything works with chrono

[jolly osprey]

does anyone know if + x to level of cold spells, applies to cold spells socketed as triggered spells? because it doesn't show an increase on the tooltip like if you socket it directly

[wraith wraith]

Does rare creature modifier + affect loot drops

[dawn spire]

They should apply as far as I know

[pine lily]

I was gutted to see that none of the quarterstaff skills were spells so I couldn't do archmage with them. And also none are projectiles to do with ranger extra projectile

[wet mango]

It depends on clvl, the displayed % goes down when you lvl because it's the estimated reduction against a mob at your level

[dawn spire]

What do you mean? I think the number of mods on an enemy correlates to their loot tho

[eternal raptor]

you also cant get ele storms

[wet mango]

But the actual reduction is the same for same size hit

[wraith wraith]

Thats what i was asking if you get more loot if the monster has more mod

[dawn spire]

I think charged staff is a spell?

[eternal raptor]

its a buff

[wraith wraith]

@dawn spire

[dawn spire]

Hold alt and read modifiers

[pine lily]

Is there a melee equivalent to archmage? Something that I might take on a quarterstaff sorc?

[dawn spire]

Also probably better to ask in #2┃after-acts-help

[jolly osprey]

so this is just visual bug?

[dawn spire]

Warcries are pretty strong. Also there's a spirit gem that lowers enemy ailment and stun threshold I think

[uncut bay]

I know. how much armor does one need at lele 90? do you stack armor?

[brazen verge]

does fiery death support herald of ash?

[dawn spire]

Can you hover over the trigger gem? And maybe show me the item that's granting the +levels?

[wet mango]

I do but I'm not at that lvl yet

[dawn spire]

Can you screenshot fiery death?

[warped jackal]

Is it worth it to use a vaal orb on this? Idk how rare an vaal orb is

[south garnet]

The 90% physical dmg is better for poison build right?

[brazen verge]

*eternal flame, sorry for double post

[ruby chasm]

as a ice strike monk are there any uniques that would be strong for me?

[daring nova]

Anyone running archmage invoker? Does this look alright to respec into? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/t21cj0vu

[dawn spire]

Idk if Herald of ash hits or not, tbh

[uncut bay]

the answer was 8k

[dawn spire]

Only vaal items you're willing to lose

[brazen verge]

for context, eternal flame does not

[brazen verge]

i guess it doesnt hit, IDK

[warped jackal]

Aah so its like gambling

[dawn spire]

Where did you get that from? Are you using the poe1 armor formula?

[uncut bay]

poe1?

no, a guy told me how much armor he has

[dawn spire]

Yeah, the orb says "modifies your item unpredictably"

[uncut bay]

it's easy, just need to find someone who stacks armor

and ask his armor 😄

[dawn spire]

Ah, I see. But you know that estimate is basically worthless as an actual testament to how much a big physical hit will get reduced by, right?

[warped jackal]

What are the chances an item gets better?

[uncut bay]

I don't know

so if the hit deals a lot of damage, how much can it be reduced? with max armor

[dawn spire]

Not sure. I think it's an equal chance of
A. Add a socket
B. Reroll three mods on it
C. Add a new implicit
D. Maybe a fourth thing? I'm not sure

[dawn spire]

Even with infinite armor a hit cannot be reduced to 0

[tidal copper]

Do nothing

[uncut bay]

okay

[dawn spire]

I think armor can reduce a hit by 90% maximum. But if you want a boss slam to get reduced by 90% you'd need an absolutely absurd amount of armor. It's likely not possible in the game

[uncut bay]

wait does armor not cap at 75%?

[uncut umbra]

Does bleed work as it did in poe1? I've been thinking about doing bleed minions with beetlebite velour shoes (30% ms and aggravates bleeds in player's presence).

[dawn spire]

No, damage reduction caps at 90%

Idk if armor works different

[warped jackal]

Hmm i will use it on this and cry if it rerolls the good mods. thanks!

[uncut bay]

ty

[dawn spire]

Well. Um

[dawn spire]

I'd make sure you have a backup first

[dawn spire]

Also I'd add max sockets to it, because if you get the socket outcome, it can go above the normal maximum by 1

[timid aurora]

Guys what is the best Gemling build for lvl 28? Act II. I saw that over powered Pillar build but i dont think it will work this early

[dawn spire]

If anyone says they know the best build for anything, they're trying to sell you something

[dawn spire]

Yeah, it doesn't appear to hit. Rip

[warped jackal]

yea i have a wand which is a bit worse, and how to i add max sockets on it?

btw is this the right channel or should i ask this stuff on #2┃crafting-advice

[timid aurora]

true but i seen gemling doing some really OP stuff with Pillars

just not sure when its doable

[dawn spire]

Oh, I didn't see it was an arcane weapon. Can't socket those

[dawn spire]

As long as you're not talking about stuff past the campaign you're fine

[warped jackal]

Coool!

It gave me extra 46% spell damage, no downsides. guess thats a win

[dawn spire]

Oh, I forgot this was build planning lmao. Ask anything. Crafting advice might have more knowledgeable people on crafting tho

[wet mango]

Crafting advice prob better for items particular

But then channels are not hard rules

More guidelines

[warped jackal]

Yea will doo next time 🙂

[queen nebula]

Is there anywhere that my total Life Leech is listed? Can't find it in char sheet? 🤔

[analog gale]

does cooldown reduction apply before or after flat cooldown reduction?

like if you have temporalis and a 5 second cooldown skill

and you have 50% cooldown reduction

[quasi shell]

has anyone tested if poisons count as chaos debuffs and if so, if mulitple poisons count each as a separate?

[analog gale]

whatever the cooldown reduction amount is that cuts the cooldown in half

i dont remember exactly how it works

so would it reduce it to 2.5 seconds then get -4

or get -4 seconds then cut in half

[queen nebula]

Are you... spam answering your own question?

[analog gale]

no

[bright viper]

Idk if this is the right chat but im stuck in act 2 final boss and I dont do enough damage to kill its final phase, im running a merc with galvanic shards, didnt spec into grenades at all, am I piped?

[analog gale]

you can go into general chat ingame and ask for help

[kindred dragon]

does anyone know if the Chaos Inoculation node (the one that keeps your HP always at 1 but immune to chaos damage) counts as Low Life? Since the HP shows as this, so I wonder if this meant Final Barrage is always active

[analog gale]

somebody will probably carry you through it

[analog gale]

you count as at full life

because your always at 100% life

at least thats how it works in poe1

[kindred dragon]

oh ok, thanks, it's kinda misleading with that HP counter

[analog gale]

1 out of 1.1 would wouldnt be low life

low life is below 35% life

[queen nebula]

This is for a Ranger, but might give you some ideas.

https://youtu.be/8J0HC73xgAg?si=LOP5LcD8FWT8CicD

[bright viper]

Thanks ill watch it rn

[kindred dragon]

but that's not 1.1, it's 1.1k, so it would be way below 35%

that's why I thought that would work

[cedar fossil]

what does quality do on lightning arrow? if anybody knows

[last patio]

what's the difference between increased energy shield and increased maximum energy shield?

[sterile pebble]

someone play maybe ^^ this build need little help

?

[old shuttle]

man this games annoying me a bit RN. Blood mage is just so trash. Ascension 4 final boss is so impossible. I need to just invest in getting higher chaos res i guess

[lusty surge]

should i use soul of tacati for chaos res if my chaos res is at 72%?

is it worth it?

[terse vigil]

im gonna need a mings heart ring for my build it seems, but before i commit, can someone clarify what global defences includes? is this elemental res or other things?

i havent seen the ring in game, just on the market, so i couldnt alt inspect it and googling brought me nothing lol

[urban vessel]

whats the point of inflicting 2 shocks?

[supple jay]

does infernal cry affect every single hit of a multi hit attack like flicker strike?

or only as many hits of it as you have endurance charges

[brave zealot]

does anyone have any info on when you start losing XP and how much you lose per death in the endgame?

[jolly osprey]

yea I unspecced the 2nd node, then eventually just rerolled sorc. there is literally no build that can make the downside of bloodmage turn into a positive

[wraith egret]

Kinda odd how CI counts us as low life in Poe 2

[old shuttle]

wait surely it doesnt

[wraith egret]

it does lmao

[old shuttle]

huh i guess 35% or less is 1/1

yeah poe 1 is says below 50%.

i guess in 2 it says =35% or less

and when that number is 1 the difference of 1 is big lmao

[last patio]

default max power charges is 3 right?

ty

[white timber]

Armour, Evasion, Energy shield are defences

[wraith egret]

i guess it uses our life before CI so we are 1/X

[pearl sluice]

how does the flamewall flat projectile damage scale?

[old shuttle]

nah i think its just cause of "less than" vs "less than or equal to"

[last patio]

can anyone tell me the difference between % increased max energy shield and % increased energy shield?

[old shuttle]

so less than 35% of 1 is 0. But less than or equal to 35% of 1 is rounded, 1 or less. meaning 1/1

[wraith egret]

wish there was more low life stuff now lmao

only abusing some cast speed node atm

[old shuttle]

the fact that my node just reads double the cost of your mana. You now have mana AND life issues. Grim feast is better than your node. HP scaling sucks anyway. Spell leech sucks in high tiers

its just depressing

like i may just RR and do some ES stacking like everyone else is. Cause CI is just clearly the only good defensive node

[last patio]

curious if they'll nerf CI, or something around it

or make you travel further for eternal youth

[wraith egret]

they would nerf the es nodes not CI

make it harder to stack

[tame echo]

how useful is serrated edges currently for monk?

[last patio]

is % increased energy shield better than % increased maximum energy shield?

I haven't been able to find shit on this lol

[old shuttle]

nah its just cause ES nodes are like 40% inc max, and 60% inc max. its insane. while max life has +10 max life and a single 3% node

[old shuttle]

ones local ones global

Increased energy shield is local and only affects the shield/armor/boots etc its on. While % inc max is on jewels and increases your total total

[last patio]

I really wanna learn whatever that means T_T. I need a good site to explain fundamental calculations, not finding everything I need from alt info

[wraith egret]

if its on armor its local, if its on anything that doesnt give you ES its a global

[last patio]

ok so % increased alone is a lot weaker

[astral badger]

Im at tier 10 maps with a build that has perfect resistances, playing ice sorc. My gear has lots of max life and mana perks. If I want to respec and put some points into energy shield, is there enough on the passive tree to give me a sufficient enough boost to es? So I can keep all my gear as is?

[old shuttle]

Okay ill do a number example:

You have 100% increased maximum energ yshield.

You have 1000 energy shield (500 base)

Youre getting a Focus with 100 base energy shield and getting a modifier with 100% incrased energy shield. This makes the base 200 energy shield.

you now have 700 base energy shield, up to 1400 total energy shield.

[frosty arrow]

% increase to energy shield just applies to an item. If base is 100, and you have 20% on it then it becomes 120. % to max energy shield you'll find in a passive tree. It adds all your ES from items and multiplies that

[old shuttle]

you can also hold shift on the skill tree

[rustic monolith]

best stormweaver leveling build?

[old shuttle]

xd

[last patio]

I'm slapping electrocute on lightning warp along with combat frenzy + resonance + charge infusion to get a huge crit chance boost as well as stack electrocute with time freeze on bosses

[haughty wadi]

what do people link with life remnants? (bloodmage)

[last patio]

thanks!

[old shuttle]

not much tbh. i dont have anything caus ei dont have spirit

my spirits invested into Grim feast and Blasphemy

[last patio]

ah! shift, holy shit, I only knew about alt, tytyty

someone might've told me about shift prior and I mistook it for alt haha

[static thicket]

can you gain more unbound avatar energy whiles its up?

[old shuttle]

yeah i only knew it cause someone was saying why isnt this on keyboard, and it was lol. so accidental knowledge is great

But god i wanna reroll, but idk what i wanna do hmm

maybe i should just take a break, 120 hours in like, what 12 days?

[supple jay]

bump

[pale jewel]

Guys im dying with full mana with Mind over matter and Chaos inoculation combination, any idea why?

[supple jay]

cuz flicker strike itself is labelled as an attack

[wraith egret]

[supple jay]

and the individual hits within flicker strike are strikes

so infernal cry says it affects attacks

does that affect every strike within the flicker strike attack

???

[tall shell]

How much endgame gear for spark arch will cost?

[old shuttle]

as much as you are willing to invest

its poe thats always the answer

[celest oxide]

Is it worth it to trade 34 Ex for a greater jeweller’s orb on currency exchange?

Just around like level 65 rn

[old shuttle]

worth is up to the person using the currecny. if you think thats a bigger dps up than getting better weapons and armor then sure

[tall shell]

well, that's the problem. I want to start leveling up second character and i can't find information about price of endgame gear for spark arch (atleast price for avg gear)

[old shuttle]

"average gear" is the most nonsense term of all time ngl.

[wraith egret]

depends what you consider endgame

[tall shell]

13+ maps

[old shuttle]

Its literally as i said. The more ex you invest the better the gear. You can make due with very little, get a few ex, slowly upgrade your gear til cap res

[wraith egret]

not much then

[old shuttle]

then focus on bigger multi ex purchases on like, +spell weapons or necks

[wraith egret]

to just clear 13-15s can be cheap

[old shuttle]

then start investing divines into condensing multiple gear slots into one, getting more efficient slots, leaving other slots open for uniques that are big dps ups, or other ways to up your MS or other surviability tools

then with multiple divines you can start heavily investing into jewels, perfect skills etc

its literally poe, do whatever the frick you want

[tall shell]

ye, makes sense

[wraith egret]

you can get a decent want like this thats relatively cheap and it will carry your damage

go for high mana gear and put on archmage

t13+ maps cleared for 4 div

[old shuttle]

seems over priced

8ex purchase

[wraith egret]

that has 4 dead stats

[random sonnet]

this was my 5ex purchase yesterday( i definitely stole it)

[hot willow]

My friend is following Fubguns lightning arrow. My friend say he needs cold damage, but for what purpose. Told me Fubgun said you need it? For what application? Is friend wrong. Just looked at video by Fubgun, didn't see him mentioning it.

[tall shell]

thanks, mate

[old shuttle]

remember "damage" types arent stacking. +50 cold and +50 spell is a total of +100% dmg in the end. So dmg is dmg

[hardy mauve]

i have a question: i play an ice strike invoker and im wondering what kind of weapon would be better endgame - like high as possible physical? or is it worth considering elemental damage with attacks or maybe x to y cold damage as a 3rd stat on the weapon?

[wet mango]

how does Herald of Ice work with Long Shot/Close Combat? Is it distance from you or distance from the shattered corpse?

[old shuttle]

i guess lightning is actually good/popular so tis going for more though

[wraith egret]

yeap

wasnt telling him to go buy that wand for 4 div but showing him 4 stats that he should look for

[peak fulcrum]

What are good support gems for Magma Barrier?

[wraith egret]

and a example price for something decent

[wet mango]

for clarification, they are additive not multiplicative. ("stacking" can be taken in 2 diff ways)

[old shuttle]

fair

[wraith egret]

so close to 100k yet so far

[old shuttle]

yea like xd, chaos bases moment i gues

[wraith egret]

all spell instead of lightning is a bit cheaper

no +5s tho with just these stats

dont even have crit ticked

[last patio]

will I run into trouble stacking electrocute build up + electrocute support on lightning warp and using resonance + combat frenzy to build charges for charge infusion for a huge crit chance boost?

Have nodes like this, and then my combined increased electro build up is 95% currently

[old shuttle]

use weighted

[wraith egret]

actually that one i posted is kinda a steal someone should grab that lmao

i dont like using weight

[old shuttle]

its literally better in every way no?

[wraith egret]

eh ive missed good upgrades for cheaper when using weighted

[old shuttle]

then you use weighted wrong?

[wraith egret]

i dont feel like spending time exacting the weights for stats to show me an item when i know exactly what i want

[drifting cedar]

yeah this is the ideal use case for weighted, when different mods are functionally identical

and you just care about the total of both or either

[lone wave]

Man I want to use Embrace the Darkness, but it doesn't seem worth taking until I can also have MoM and ED, with the needed mana regen/leech to boot.
It's like its a respec only build, to be swapped to at level, not to play through the game as

[lapis cedar]

insane best titan clear god build pushes and god builds through untitan sized maps with ease showing how god tier the build is

[old shuttle]

this is the main use case for weighted

[wraith egret]

in this case with the spell levels sure but

[old shuttle]

the scale juggle nosense youre talking about is yeah very wack

1/1/1/3 with res/all res is also good

but other than that yea, weird weight juggling is only if youre wanting something SUPER narrow

[lapis cedar]

insane god build

witness meta

[wraith egret]

i always want something super narrow lmao at this point any upgrade is so specific weight is useless

of more of a hassle i should say

[old shuttle]

but yeah using it like this is very recommended, you will steal nutty items like this

[wraith egret]

backbar blink is the best shit i ever did

idk why i didnt do it sooner

[last patio]

What's confusing me is why this would even use local increased energy shield when it's not item related

[mellow escarp]

How much of your resists do you guys realistically try to get from passives?

[spare quartz]

Any Rangers here? Better to have Damage with Bow skills +40%, or +2 to projectile skills on bows? Poison ranger with quiver passives

[lapis cedar]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1320411374748307537

[old shuttle]

wait what the fuck

[old shuttle]

that should say increased maximum energy shield for sure

[last patio]

LOL

dude i've been scratching my head for a minute

[old shuttle]

like everything else

[last patio]

Shift clicking it isn't showing anything for stat changes because I haven't rerolled stats to be able to use a skill related to it T_T

but yeah I assume it meant maximum

[old shuttle]

i mean it also wouldnt have a compare cause it doesnt do anything til you use power charges

so it wouldnt even work xd

[delicate bramble]

what’s better staff or wand/focus?

can wands roll good stuff? or would a staff have all the juice

[last patio]

jeez, well those 3 nodes surrounding the keystone give 60% increased energy shield so I'm gonna assume it's super worth it

[old shuttle]

Wand typically

[last patio]

I just hope taking like 8-10 nodes for electrocute build up and electrocute support doesn't turn out a waste

[old shuttle]

wdym sounds terrible to me. Get unbending

[last patio]

how likely is pillar gemling gonna get nerfed >>

or just the pillar build in general

And how much time do we have before it's dead

[woven stone]

🔜

[random moat]

question, I assume its not worth going for a crit build if I'm understand the crit mechanic correctly?

[old shuttle]

?

extrapolate

[random moat]

it seems like you'll need a lot of crit rate%'s in order to get close to 100%

like more than just adding to 100

[old shuttle]

yesnt

[last patio]

what is HOWA?

[old shuttle]

early game crit bad, late game you already have a lot of damage

Hands of Wisdom and Action?

[winged topaz]

Should i hold off on spending exalts for magic find gear? I feel like with the amount of complaining the community has been doing they’ll change it

[old shuttle]

math example.

10% crit chance. 2x crit dmg. (effectively a 1.1x dmg multiplier)

You have 100 base dmg. And 500% increased damage, so youre dealing 600 damage. (or 660 average)

You could get another 50% more damage, pushing it to 650 damage (or 715)
You could get 50% increased crit chance, pushing it to 600 (or 690)

but then when you also get crit damage nodes

it starts kinda stacking up a LOT

[honest ingot]

On ryslatha's coil using it for a bleed build do i need high LESS minimum phys dmg or Lowest less minimum phys dmg?

[radiant yarrow]

I'm running invoker lightning monk and plan to get CI since I have around 1400 ES rn and can get more later with better gear and more nodes once I level. Is it better to focus energy shield recharge rate and start or is eternal youth a good passive? I did the math and I can get about 55% increased ES recharge rate, so that's about 19.375% per second, so around 5.3 seconds to fully recharge, and if I get 100% faster start, that's 1 second no damage to recharge, so 6 seconds to fully recharge if I've almost lost ES. Or is flask better? idk if they go up around 2k in later game, I'm level 53 rn

[unreal grove]

Olroth's Resolve Ultimate Life Flask, thoughts on this, wouldnt it be better to just have a reg flask that can refill on enemy kills esp for breach maps?

[analog patrol]

Is it possible to change ascendency class?

[last patio]

wow div price fell 6 exalts since last I saw it

[random moat]

is the energy shield worth spending passive skill points on? doesn't seem too worth it especially for ranged classes

[old shuttle]

ES op

[random moat]

just don't get hit

from my knowledge of not playing the games a lot of the bosses tend to instant kill you from what I've heard

[old shuttle]

ill say what they say in that one other dodge roll game

build vitality

try to NOT die in one hit

[stone obsidian]

does ballista totem do attack hits? I'm trying to figure out if herald of ice not triggering is a bug or if I'm misunderstanding something about the mechanics

[radiant yarrow]

there'll be that one time, when you're going through a map or trial, after so much time, almost at the boss, but then a tiny shit mob kills you because you have no protection or you get swarmed and stun locked, etc etc. You prob want some protection, be it life or ES. Also defences

[rocky steppe]

does a ancestel warrior totem count as a minion

[random moat]

understandable, been through that a lot in souls games

[crimson ridge]

Is there any titan leveling builds I can follow?

[stone obsidian]

no

[robust perch]

hey guys is there a bug where "increased critical hit chance for attacks" doesn't show on tool tip?

[analog gale]

anybody tried out ball lightning?

[tranquil steeple]

Does burning inscription proc of blasphemy curses or does it need to be manually casted

[analog gale]

do you think tempest caller could be good with temporalis?

[finite tusk]

Is there a way to know how much accuracy you need on a hunter to compensate for ranged damage falloff?

[lusty surge]

where can i see my freeze build up?

[analog gale]

i think if temporalis applies before cooldown reduction does then it would be really good

[finite tusk]

on the stats for each stat, pretty sure?

[analog gale]

because that would give you 0 cooldown elemental storm

[pearl sluice]

how does the flamewall flat projectile damage scale?

[analog gale]

with attacks its scaled by damage effectiveness

[lusty surge]

this?

[analog gale]

with spells i think it just adds to it

all spells have 100% damage effectiveness

so it adds like 7x more damage for ice shards

[tranquil steeple]

Does burning inscription only work for curses you cast yourself? Like can you use it on blasphemy or no?

[analog gale]

not ice shards

freezing shards

[random moat]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/mc1w40vo

currently have this build planned, any feedback?

[lusty surge]

is 200% increase freeze too much?

[orchid hatch]

Shouldn't 2 handed weapons have double the stats? You lose out on an entire slot.

[sterile pebble]

somone play https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/plasma-burst-deadeye-ds-lily?

[foggy edge]

i have a question - how can i best get my artillery ballista to ignite to cast exposure ?

it would be preferable over grenade

[hardy mauve]

is elemental damage with attacks better than physical damage on weapon for ice strike monk?

[queen chasm]

btw is drenched is it worth getting on spark sorc?

[tropic raven]

There is, i think, something as over tanking

[thick lily]

Does anyone know why i am not recieving power charges?

[paper quail]

do you have a gear that converts them instead

[hardy mauve]

you need a skill to generate frenzy charges they dont come from passive tree

[thick lily]

Im using combat frenzy

Shouldnt it work?

[hardy mauve]

on the ailments you need for it yeah

[thick lily]

I dont get it, what am i doing wrong its not working at all

[serene minnow]

anyone know how much resistances to overcap for elemental weakness maps ?

[ember pumice]

I'm wondering if anyone has tried Giants Blood with 1 2h mace and 1 Staff? Possibly good? Impossible?

[tropic raven]

So how does conversion work. Exactly. i'm an infernalist. I have 35% phys reduction, the hound and altered flesh.
Does that mean it's 35% + 20(turns into chaos) + 20(Goes to the dog) and so 75% phys res
or is it 1 * 0.65 * 0.8 * 0.8?
Now i suspect it's the first, as i just fought the floor 4 sanctum boss with 50.3% phys res due to defence stacking buffs and he was doing no damage to me, at all.

[void pewter]

I put a life gem in one of my skills and it stopped me from getting frenzy charges. Maybe you did the same

[bleak patio]

Does Resonating Shield need the mace to work?

[polar zealot]

Does the adorned unique jewel work with prism of belief jewel

Will I get more skill gem levels

[pearl sluice]

Theres suppose to be a unique which have phy dmg pinning mod

Anyone knows?

I cant find it

[wet mango]

where do we see total ailment threshold?
(and how do we interpret it o.O)

[cosmic sparrow]

how well does carnage heart work with demon form

[polar zealot]

I believe they are boots

[azure granite]

What purpose do power charges have one a witch

[old shuttle]

anyone know why this is weird?

stuck at 1

[azure granite]

I don't see a way to spend them

[past wind]

Guys, if a skill has 5 seconds cooldown and if i get 200% cooldown recovery what will be the skills cooldown?

[old shuttle]

some support skill make them use

[past wind]

Is it 1.25?

Or 2 seconds, I can’t figure the math out

[daring nova]

What do you think is the best build if I want to stack energy shield and go CI?

[rough aurora]

Got myself a pair of HOWA gloves...now wondering if some of the low damage uniques, especially Raptor crossbow could be turned in a good build with it. The phys on raptor is ultra low tho

[old shuttle]

yeah id imagine quillrain HoA could be good

but its probs just caged god

[rough aurora]

Yea idk got a raptor with added lightning even on ot but it still feels super weak and i do have 450 int atm

[past wind]

How does skill cooldown reduction is calculated?

[rough aurora]

Also...question with Howa... if i have 500 int, it adds 50-500 flat lightning damage? Does that work with extra maximum lightning damage node?

[versed hazel]

is there a site that shows what skill gem quality does for each skill?

[cobalt musk]

min area level 60 is for third lab trials right

[tidal copper]

I think you can press alt in the gem and it'll tell you

[iron bough]

is it possible to switch the class spec later on?

[versed hazel]

u mean ascendancy? i dont think so

u can redo the skill tree for gold

[paper quail]

you can respec your ascendancy points but not the ascendancy class itself

[versed hazel]

its a separate variable of the same equation

[rough aurora]

Do you know if +15% Projectile Damage is the same as like 15% attack or 15% on two Handed weapons?

[old shuttle]

Does Dark Effigy with Wither support get it to 1.5 procs of wither on average?

[versed hazel]

it should be the same and 15% on any skill
idk where u get attack or two handed % from

[rough aurora]

tree

[covert moon]

it's so sad that the quarterstaff slam deals so little damage compared to the lightning skills

[hazy locust]

slam divine or nah

[covert moon]

divine can't change tier can it ?

[old shuttle]

what never slam a divine like, at all

[hazy locust]

so divine cant change tiers?

unlucky

[paper quail]

yup. just current range

[old shuttle]

ofc not, thatd be kinda terrible

[hazy locust]

oh

damn

woulve been good if it could change tiers

[old shuttle]

6 lots of a 1/15 ish. 1/11million. like lmao?

not id be doodoo

[hazy locust]

hahahhaha

[silk kayak]

This might not be the right channel for it, but I have been playing a bit the last couple days and learning the game. How do I determine the best bases for items so I do not waste my mats?

[old shuttle]

what level are you currently?

[silk kayak]

15 i think

[old shuttle]

dont worry then. Just use aug and trans on whatever you want. youll make em back

[silk kayak]

Also how long are legendaries pretty good? I got an Ice staff that I like and hope it lasts a while

[snow sierra]

legendarys are mostly situational

[silk kayak]

Aww

[snow sierra]

so never good or good forever

[eternal grotto]

Uniques are niche, but nice for leveling

[silk kayak]

Taryn's Shiver

[snow sierra]

thats seems like a never good one to me unless frezzing shards is somehow amazing

[eternal grotto]

Yeah thats a leveler. But a good one!

[snow sierra]

Isnt spell level on your staff way better ?

[tawdry dew]

Okay, I'm pretty good at dodging but I'm in Act 2 cruel and reaching the point where a boss can slap me and I'm instantly being killed.

This is after I've gone through and upgraded my set. upgraded my armor, upgraded my weapon.
Most of my gear is at least level 45.
I have to be doing something wrong with my build because trying to do a no hit run on bosses is just rough.

[eternal grotto]

You will want an upgrade eventually.

[eternal grotto]

Ur resistances

[stone fog]

I d been playing witch. Is it true melee (monk) is really tricky early game? Also recommendations/link for build

[eternal grotto]

Thats whats fucking you

[tawdry dew]

Do I just need to change my whole set up every time I face a different boss?

[snow sierra]

something wrong with you build what might that be 😉

[pearl sluice]

Pinning or stunning is better?

[eternal grotto]

No. You need resistances on ur gear. Ur fire res is negative

Max res is +75%

So ur 105% missing

[snow sierra]

typical if you go up in level you need to start having res

no need to go to 75% while leveling but it should be your aim to strive for

And have it when hitting maps or early maps

[tawdry dew]

No I understand that part. But my gear for the most part is all Rare and 6 additionals already. Do I just need to completely ignore bonuses like Max Life and Max Mana and only look at resistances?

[snow sierra]

what level are you

[tawdry dew]

Level 51

Like this is my body piece right now. I know it's only okay-ish but it's the best I have at the moment.

[grizzled crown]

evasion and energy for invonker?

or just evasion

[eternal grotto]

Yeah the suffixes r not doing much

Ur prefixes r good, but u want a bit of res on that
Even w less hp

[eternal grotto]

Like, a ring w all 3 res's and 40 hp is worth more than one w 125 hp and no res

[tawdry dew]

Gotcha, huh... Alright. Suppose I'll look around for resistance gear. Thank you for the help!

[snow sierra]

i threw a quick search together but if you buy 1-3 items on your worst slots for ex you cant get alot

use my search to sort for the sum value to you get the best resistance item and fiddel around with the hp value

[eternal grotto]

Yeah aim for like 40% in elements resists rn

75 is what youll want for endgame

[sick dragon]

Can someone explain why frost wall is costing me hp and not mana?

[snow sierra]

On rings you gotta add the impicit to the sum tho, i was to lazy to do that now

[eternal grotto]

R u a bloodmage?

[snow sierra]

bloodmage, bloodmagic support, skillpoint

[sick dragon]

No I'm a chronomancer using a quarterstaff. Never got those support skills

[eternal grotto]

If u have rune sockets available u can fix resistences that way

[snow sierra]

still buying 1-3 pieces will do alot for you

[tawdry dew]

That makes sense yeah. Been avoiding using them just because I only have a couple left but at this point if I'm being one shot I might as well.

[eternal grotto]

Theyre very useful in the campaign. Once ur res is fixed youll be flyin again im sure.

[eternal grotto]

Did you spec any new passive nodes, or equip a gem?

Theres a couple ways spells can deal self dmg or cost life

[snow sierra]

or have the support that cost life in your frostwall

[eternal grotto]

Yes that too

[snow sierra]

its so troll on gem, bricked one of my good gems as i rolled it with my CI build...

[eternal grotto]

Wait it still lets you cast even w ci?

[snow sierra]

5% of the cost as life ye thanks ggg

[eternal grotto]

Thats troll

[snow sierra]

nah cant cast then still shit^^

[supple jay]

If I have blink and a shield on weapon set II that gives me +cooldown recovery rate, does blink still have a shorter cooldown when I switch to my weapon set I weapon?

blink is only allocating spirit on weapon set II

[eternal raptor]

does gas cloud not stack anymore? i just got to lvl 28 for deaths harp but the act 2 endboss only took like 5% dmg after spawning

[alpine pecan]

If I have a crossbow in my second set with +1 totems specced, and I summon 2 ballista, and swap back to a first set with a mace, will i lose that second ballista?

[eternal grotto]

I believe so, but am not 100%

[sick dragon]

I have no sockets that make spells take hp nor skill tree point

[static plinth]

The second run through of Acts 1 - 3 is called Cruel. Hardcore is a gamemode where you lose your character if you die

[sick dragon]

Can anyone explain why frost wall is taking hp from me when I cast it. It won't kill me but it takes about 100 hp.

Won't even take shield.

[alpine pecan]

are you a blood mage

[sick dragon]

I am not a blood mage.

Is that in the skill tree? Or ascendancy?

[eternal grotto]

Unless you post screenshots of ur links/tree or post a link we wont b able to tell

[alpine pecan]

its the witch ascendancy

[sick dragon]

I'm a sorc.

I went Chrono ascendancy. I can stop time.

Wtfffffff lol

[elder rivet]

You should look very carefully at your passive tree nodes and your support gems. Because the only way it would do that is if you took a node in your passive tree that switches the drain for Mp to Hp, or you put a support gem into the skill that does that.

[eternal grotto]

^

[eternal grotto]

Man if i wasnt sitting in a laundramat id check those but it doesnt look like anything amiss passivley

[static plinth]

Do you have gear such as Demon Stitcher on

[eternal grotto]

Is it just icewall thats costing hp?

[orchid hatch]

There are some support gems that do that.

[sick dragon]

It's only frost wall

[eternal grotto]

My last gues is the support for bloodmagic, but im assuming youd know if you socketed that so im stumped

[sick dragon]

Answer has been found. Demon stitcher

[eternal grotto]

AYYY

[sick dragon]

Bro I getting upset lol. Thank you.

[eternal grotto]

Always read ur uniques lol

They do wacky shit

[static plinth]

As usual, im omniscient

[supple jay]

bump

[eternal grotto]

I am not 100% but i believe it inherets the cdr of the weapon set when cast. So less cooldown. But thats w a grain of salt

[last patio]

I'm kinda wanting to try pillar gemling, but I don't wanna invest in something that's prob gonna get nerfed in a week

[eternal grotto]

If it looks cool try it. Everythings gonna get changed eventually

[last patio]

really I just want the smoothest ride into the hardest maps cause I've wasted too much time on chronomancer lol

[eternal grotto]

Thats valid

[grizzled basalt]

trying to mess around with bonestorm to see what craziness i can do with it, im not sure why but when heft support gem is put into bonestorm,bonecage or unearth, even though they are all 3 physical damage, the tooltip doesnt change

[last patio]

I need a way to farm good currency for cheap now that the market's fucked

[rare gust]

This is exactly why the market is fked

[rugged kraken]

Might be bugged. It should change right

[snow sierra]

well good way to farm currency slap alot of rarety on...or craft

[grizzled basalt]

im in the middle of testing damage per 1 shard of bonestorm but no idea yet if it alters it at all

[dusk egret]

Will skill tree aura node affect blasphany's curse?

[last patio]

I had always assumed crafting was the fast path to going broke lol

[rugged kraken]

should be like a average of like 12% damage increase?

[snow sierra]

i made all my money with smart crafting

map drops are kinda shit for me... did equip 150 something rarety now to test how that works out

[old rune]

best venom for warrior?

[graceful stag]

I like the stun so I can garuntee I get my slam more often but then again I'm doing hammer of the gods chrono

[old rune]

good

[void barn]

Can anyone confirm that concoctions dont require an empty hand

[snow sierra]

kinda thinking of respeccting my minion mancer to dd...but not sure if dd works without blood mage base crit change

[graceful stag]

I think I've heard of widow hail with it so I think ur gokd

[grizzled basalt]

im not seeing anything lol

[zealous grail]

Hello all! I have some questions regarding my build

How can I improve my damage and build in general? pretty new to the game, and expended more than 30+ tries in order to defeat the 2nd act boss

I feel like maps are quite easy right now, some bosses are difficult but not impossible, but it seems like for high HP bosses I struggle a lot, I think I do not do enough damage... could someone help me with my build?

Not sure if links are allowed, but my build could been seen here https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/4s2ga0v6 any help at all would be awesome, I think some of my items are really low level, but item drops are REALLY bad, what should I do?

also, it is better to dischant the items or to sell them for gold?

Thank you all for the help!

[tidal copper]

Lighting arrow im puking already, arent there like 50 guides about this build?

[zealous grail]

Sorry to bother with my ignorance 😢 I'm following a guide, but I do not understand why it is that difficult to do enough damage

[tidal copper]

Ill try my best hold

[zealous grail]

Thx!

[tidal copper]

Do you have some exalts?

can i see the guide?

[zealous grail]

This is the guide

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR35NJkrhF1Zf9SZZOPlsdpqbTibL2AqOiZosya0NSjEN5A1Dx8a_MeQox9VDLQw3kB0ibZCNb_e6VJ/pubhtml

[hard arrow]

it do not 20% max healt ignite DPS, in real it do 4% max healt ignite DPS, and its very low amount, if you want focus only on it.
(ignite deal 20% of base fire damage > base dmg is 20% of max healt = 0.2 * 0.2 = 0.04 max healt DPS)

[zealous grail]

I have like 3 or 4, not sure I do not have the game open as I'm at work

[scenic dawn]

Does anyone know if the original sin ring makes it so the fire damage I do is chaos with ignite still or would that not work cause I wanted to pair the original sin with the black flame ring

[tidal copper]

I think the tree like this will make more sense
Attack speed per dexterity wont take off till later
Your ascendency is wrong too they take point blank not far shot
Read the notes of the build notice that the first extra gem actually goes into frost something
Your equipment is pretty bad try your best to add %rarity, health and resistance look in vendors too
Its pretty normal to feel weak in act 2 i feel its the biggest power spike in campaign

[pine lily]

Hey guys, if I wanted to make a build that used Snipe for bosses and tanky elites and a physical/fire based add clear like explosive shot say. Would I be okay to just scale physical damage and it would work for both? Or am I screwing myself by not leaning into the fire damage of explosive shot? Sorry if it's a stupid question, I'm new.

[last patio]

Anyone know a build that's cheap but can get me into the latest endgame content for cheap (that clears fast)?

[tidal copper]

Now im going to bleach my eyes meta builds hurt my soul

[zealous grail]

Thank you a lot for the help! ❤️ I will try my best! thanks!

[scenic dawn]

We love meta🫥

[snow sierra]

Chronomancer minion meta ?

[tidal copper]

Disgusting, homebrew build or riot

[scenic dawn]

Chrono is just busted

[snow sierra]

dam i gotta reroll now

not sure why but well thats it chrono is dead

[scenic dawn]

@tidal copper Do you know if the original sin ring makes it so the fire damage I do is chaos with ignite still or would that not work cause I wanted to pair the original sin with the black flame ring

I’m still on my bullshit for the chaos stuff

[pine lily]

Why?

[scenic dawn]

I haven’t found an answer

[tidal copper]

you can use Snipe to great effectiveness
there is the deadeye physical angle and the gemling angle

[azure maple]

does ES regen transfer to Mana Regen when you take EB?

[snow sierra]

because its busted so cant play it, chronomancer minion is now the new meta

[pine lily]

What's the gemling angle? Can it compete with the extra projectile that deadeye gets? And the move speed?

[snow sierra]

no srsly why chrono busted, i feel like nobody plays chrono^^

[tidal copper]

Dunno, im doing pathfinder cause i trusted in the bleed concoction dont follow my steps
Gemling is what ill guess will be optimal for now to bleed with bow
Oh there is also snipe poison out there if you want to research a bit

[last patio]

I saw that video but I suspect it sucks ass in clear speed.

That guy only posts boss videos

[scenic dawn]

Most likely will suck ass in clear

Minions suck for clear

At least in my experience

[snow sierra]

clear is overrated join the skelly armey

[scenic dawn]

Time stop is the only real thing that’s useful as long as it’s long enough

[snow sierra]

its last 3 sek baseline

and has dr

[scenic dawn]

Baseline

[snow sierra]

its absolut shit

[sterile stone]

guys im planning to roll a totem build, but i did it once and dps went poof very fast, i know i need +, but im trying not to trade on campaign, and getting + naturally seems very hard, is it actually viable

[mystic cloud]

Hello, whats the best way to increase mana regen?

I've got a lot of % increase regen but my base regen is so low that it barely does anything. (roughly +60% mana regen translates to mana +10 regen)

Is this normal or is there any other ways to increase regen?

[tidal copper]

Warrior campaign viable?
Can i see the tree

[snow sierra]

even if you get it to 6 sek duration uuuh you got 60cd 6sek duration stun with huge investment...i cant see timestop ever be worth it other then for pure support builds

[sterile stone]

im also asking, bcs i dont see how to get + easily without trade

i dont think tree matter that much, its pretty obvious on waht to choose

[ornate gate]

anyone tested carnage heart demon form infernalist?

[sterile stone]

well at least for totem spesific

[tidal copper]

I have seen the scream build use totems for great DPS
As a full build no idea
you can get + gems in gloves to for totems i believe maybe that helps

[sterile stone]

i think thats corrupting cry build

yeah thats the problem i ID trans aug things and im not rolling the +

im stuck with only +2 on weapon that i buy for few augs

[terse escarp]

does neural overload prime enemies for electrocution or only proc the electrocution if an enemy is primed from another source? idk if im overthinking it or what

[scenic dawn]

@tidal copper using this ring would it be better for my ignite as the damage goes from 1.5k to 2.5k a second with ignite however it lowers the duration of ignite which I guess I could increase

[storm willow]

"+# level of all melee skills" works on any warrior ability?

[dense bramble]

how do i calculate ES on a piece?

[terse escarp]

as long as it has this "melee" tag, it should work iirc. if you press g (pulls up the gems u got equpped) and the level for ur melee skills is blue and 1 higher than normal u can tell its working

[serene lotus]

Will left be better for Witch Hunter Gas Nade build? I am not sure but also dont want to waste 2 sockets and runes to find out if the 40% will buff it up enough

[fallen storm]

yo question. i am trying out ranger right now. when i get hit from some ranged enemies my shooting animation gets canceled. for example when the snakes in the venom crypt spit the poison on me. Or when the blade dancers in jiquanis sanctum jump on to me. Does this count as a stun or as a hit? and do i counter this with stun thresh hold / recovery or just pure evasion?

[solid plover]

yo guys, which build is like very tanky atm?

[dense bramble]

CI+MOM archmage

[solid plover]

ty

[sterile stone]

evasion = not getting hit
stun threshold = stunned less
stun recovery = reduce stun duration/quicken stun animation

[daring nova]

I assume stormweaver or any others?

[solid plover]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3601862

[dense bramble]

ive only seen the archmage im building due to mana stacking and thats counting as EHP with MOM

[midnight bolt]

use shockwave totems with jagged ground support for clear and perfect strike for bosses, +lvl gear is farmable just check all vendors every level in all towns and spam augments on all hammers that u find, utilize 2 weapon slots passives as much as u can since its op on totems

[dense bramble]

archmage scales crazy off of mana and thats basically HP with mind over matter and energy shield with everlasting gaze amulet

[sterile stone]

what can i do with 2nd slot?

[midnight bolt]

u put all totem nodes in 1 slot and either all armor or all melee dmg in other depending if you are hc or sc

in endgame i just hold resonate shield with movement support which makes you borderline immortal with small ms penalty

[sterile stone]

im sc, so you mean like 1 tree all dmg 2nd tree all defense

i never really use the system

[tidal copper]

Yes it's better
Think that the duration is usually 4 seconds?? Look at the tool tip
So going down to 2 for mapping is pretty awesome as you'll wait half as much for the same damage
You can invest in duration but also in cast speed
If you ignite every 2 seconds that'll also mitigate the issues of the ring

[midnight bolt]

also another tech with weapon swap on totems is to put all +str % reduced max mana on your weapon set that is NOT related to totems, that way when you swap away from totems ull get much smaller mana pool and can easier replanish it which results in full mana when u cast ur totems again, helps a lot tot sustain my lvl 38 900 mana cost totems

[tidal copper]

Also why I'm I getting pinged

[scenic dawn]

Appreciate the answer that’s useful to know, thank you

[sterile stone]

so like cast totem, swap, pot, swap back?

[solid plover]

is that a unique amulet?

[sterile stone]

i saw people using blood magic and stack life regen

[solid plover]

i need to learn how to farm those kinda items lol

i literally have 0 idea how to farm them on poe 2

[midnight bolt]

you just bind totem skills on one weapon set and everithing else on other weapon set so u dont need to manually swap

[balmy fable]

How is the clear on spell bleed? I'm looking at doing either bleed or ignite, but it seems like ignite has WAY better clear w/ cracklecreep or ignite prolif support

[static plinth]

Usually you farm something else and trade for it, unless you're playing Solo Self-Found

[balmy fable]

Bleed.... idk what you have really, maybe fiery death prolifing bleeds w/ blood mage?

[static plinth]

If you're playing SSF, idk the strats for 2 but you definitely want some +Rarity on gear

[solid plover]

was thiinking of ssf yeah

[sterile stone]

iirc totem doesnt snapshot? wouldnt that mean youre losing dps whenever youre on non totem set

[midnight bolt]

they do snapshot

[solid plover]

oh yeah, how good is rarity on poe 2 atm?

[midnight bolt]

i tested and am doing easily t15-t16s with it

[solid plover]

i remember that they nerfed the heck out of it on poe 1

[unreal vault]

Does this reduce my max life ?
(Don’t have the skill points to spec it yet to find out )

[sterile stone]

ooohhh so they do.....

[midnight bolt]

yepp fully, my main weapon is mana drain attuned wand+shield and 2nd weapons slot 2 2h maces with +7 sk

[brazen verge]

thanks for the clarification 🙂

[sterile stone]

it doesnt reduce max life per se, but youre losing 25% of hp pool

[static plinth]

You have the same max life, but you cant heal above 75%

[tidal copper]

What if you get a bow and spiral volley
Well maybe some monk spell is easier

[sterile stone]

will try this when i reach endgame, problem now is leveling with warrior is really ass

[midnight bolt]

its really not, start with auto attack+boneshatter, swap to totems when u have 3 max totems and put jagged ground in, it instantly solves clear

then as soon as u get perfect strike bosses are ez too

[sterile stone]

people use base attack? thought i need rolling

[midnight bolt]

it can be rough only if u get REAALLLY unlucky with weapon drops

[sterile stone]

do you mean +2 from tree or that includes overabbundance

[midnight bolt]

you either auto->bonshatter or leap=>boneshatter, also every animation recovery can be cancelled with dodge so usually you do auto=>dodge=>boneshatter=>dodge

[midnight bolt]

includes overabudance

[sterile stone]

alright2 ill try doing that, ty~

[midnight bolt]

gl, tho tbh just even 2 totems with jagged+wahtever gem should be playable if u dont have overbbundance

[sterile stone]

i tried playing totem early with urgen + overabbundance + tempo and it feels zdps

[unreal vault]

Ty

[unreal vault]

Ty

[midnight bolt]

jagged ground support is almost double- tripple dmg if you have 3+ totems, not having it is big scuff

they create and chain explosions from each other

[sterile stone]

yeah i think i swap too soon

[midnight bolt]

also that too , i would swap around lvl 20-25 or smth, i dont remember exactly

[soft lake]

I've just started a ranger, which I'm planning on using crossbows on. I've seen people mention that levelling with crossbows doesn't feel too great and that you want some passive tree investment before you swap to them from bows. Which passives are important before making the switch? Reload speed ones?

Or is it just getting enough general attack speed/damage before they feel good?

[flint briar]

so what warrior builds feel good from the start? the abilities i've tried so far feel pretty bad/awkward (rollign slam, earthquake, boneshatter) compared to like POE1 ground slam fast squishing

[trim swan]

I'm tryn to do a Lightning/Frost Invoker. Mainly using the Lightning skills, can I somehow increase the extra cold damage further that the invoker gets ?
I rarely get to freeze an enemie

[midnight bolt]

boneshatter is the best early on and melee standart attack

[flint briar]

really? default attack and worse-default-attack-on-primed-guys?

[midnight bolt]

did you use it properly? you need impact shockwave support gem linked to it and it clears whole screen

[flint briar]

no I certainly am not doing it properly or anything, jusst exploring the starting abilities

[midnight bolt]

just leap slam on mobs then boneshatter with impact shockwave support

or autoattack a mob and then boneshatter it

[flint briar]

leap slam as in rolling slam or is that another one I haven't checked yet?

[midnight bolt]

its later on, when u get aceess to it

early on just auto

i dont remember from which lvl u get leap slam gem

[brazen verge]

uhm guys can you give me an advice how important stun threshold is to make the long story short? I have finished the campaign and havent felt the need for it at all yet

i mean my own stun treshold

[midnight bolt]

if your auto attack does too much dmg you can always swap to rolling slam into bone shatter

[balmy fable]

Anyone messed with spell bleed and gotten it to aggravate?

Beetlebite seems scuffed

[brazen verge]

so the stun treshold is the enemy affecting stat? I thought this was my defense thing

[half owl]

how do I know which is better? 53% increased Damage with Bow Skills or + 2 projectile skill level

[midnight bolt]

tldr in high tier maps you can die in 1 stun

[brazen verge]

thank you 🙂

[midnight bolt]

most op builds dont get stunned tho

[brazen verge]

i still havent picked my reward mana regen vs stun treshold 😉

thanks

[midnight bolt]

mana regen!!

[brazen verge]

btw im a merc

but yeah also thinking this

[midnight bolt]

1 passive from quest reward isnt enough

[balmy fable]

@thorny token u playing poe2?

[tardy shuttle]

I see plenty of guides on witch hunter but nothing regarding the passive tree which looks like a tangled mess to me atm

[brazen verge]

oh so 25% stun treshold increase is like 1 skill point huh? didnt try to compare it this way 🙂 good point

[midnight bolt]

ye i wouldnt reccomend taking it

[tardy shuttle]

any general guidelines for passives?

[midnight bolt]

if you are close to warrior u can grab 3 point cluster with 3% max hp and str, and that should be enough for endgame stun threshold

[soft lake]

He's not posted in the server since release day, so he's either going incredibly hard or has bounced off it entirely, I'd guess

[thorny token]

i am yes

i am posting in server but only in 1 thread :d

[soft lake]

Which thread? 👀

[thorny token]

with wtd shax and some others

[soft lake]

I feel like I'm missing out on an exclusive thread now

With the ol' build planning crew

[thorny token]

lul, its mostly just arguing with shax so you arent rly missing out :d

[soft lake]

Some things never change

[brazen verge]

whatya arguing about mostly 😉

[thorny token]

i wasnt mostly posting elsewhere because there was way too many new ppl and i wasnt super interested in discussing basic stuff

[soft lake]

Yeah, I am missing the comfy vibe of the POE1 build planning thread quite a bit

[thorny token]

also no pob so no spam sharing of builds :d

[brazen verge]

cant have it all

for now

[thorny token]

yea

[soft lake]

I will say I'm actually okay with that - I want POB2, but I never liked the people just dropping random POB links with no commentary and getting in the way of the crazy theorycrafting

Obviously being able to plan the crazy builds has taken a hit, though

[balmy fable]

seriously LMAO

[thorny token]

theres sadly also not that much to theorycraft atm

[balmy fable]

I'm just trying to figure out if there's any feasible way to aggravate spell bleed

[thorny token]

most interesting defensive stuff is like

the transcendence chest

[balmy fable]

But it's frustrating, feels like they put half the framework in then just... stopped

[thorny token]

thats not just clicking es nodes

lul

and that depends on scavenged palting not being complete ass

which it is

[soft lake]

I gave up on spell bleed entirely (which made me sad because it's what I attempted to start with)

[balmy fable]

this is the other thing, you either go ES or Evasion or have an awful time

[balmy fable]

Yeah I'm losing my desire to play the game as i realize the stuff I wanted to do basically doesnt work

[thorny token]

es/eva package is quite overtuned together ngl

even if es itself wasnt

[balmy fable]

If I go spell bleed I have to take the armor and give up a shitload of life on tree as a blood mage

[thorny token]

the support is rly good

[balmy fable]

or use beetlebite and deal with dancing in and out of presence

i may just ascend to infernalist instead and go ignite

[thorny token]

like eva makes grim feast even more op than it is etc

[soft lake]

I'm levelling a poison crossbow build now. Still in acts but I think there's some potential, at least. Poison feels much better supported than bleed

[balmy fable]

ya that's the other thing

[balmy fable]

yeah, i might reroll to toxic growth, its the only poison skill that looks even slightly entertaining

[thorny token]

i was thinking about poison crossbow as well but theres bunch of annoying stuff to solve

toxic growth is ass if you are doing bow poison gas arrow is best

[soft lake]

Toxic Growth feels great, I've been using that and Gas Arrow for levelling and it's been really smooth

[balmy fable]

ya im gonna pass then, i have 0 desire to play that skill lmao

[thorny token]

and if you look for absolutely strongest poison build

then its decompose boots

[storm willow]

is this thing worth to use? 50% chance to avoid death on a letal hit but trash armor and -18% fire resistance

[thorny token]

you can get 10 poisons from it with 40% corpse life

[balmy fable]

I was going to go spell bleed w/ flameblast but.... aggravating spell bleed is just not fun

[thorny token]

its actually super stupid

only annoying thing is playstyle

and main reason why i dropped it

[balmy fable]

like the fact ur options are beetlebite or the armor is insane

[soft lake]

This was exactly my plan, ha

[brazen verge]

meh

[thorny token]

waiting for decompose wand base still

then its gonna go hard

[balmy fable]

well the nice thing is u can easily pivot to ignite, but infernalist has like.... not great nodes outside demon form

[thorny token]

but idk if we are getting that one before next 3 acts

[balmy fable]

you get 20% damage reduction from hound

[meager tulip]

Anyone have hand of wisdom and action wraps for a reasonable sane price…the prices on trade are crazy stupid

[balmy fable]

and then what... infernal flame? which seems kinda ass

[balmy fable]

because its very good

Ignite seems much more developed in the skill gems/tree category, much less in ascendancies

[meager tulip]

600 exalted orbs good????

[soft lake]

The bigger issue for me is just the lack of bleed chance. Like, I don't want to invest an ascendancy node and a bunch of passives to be stuck at 30% bleed chance on my clear skill

[thorny token]

well if you arent exploding gas it has pretty op mechanics ngl, i liked the build a lot

full screen poison pretty much that insta stacks

[balmy fable]

well support is 50%, but yeah can only put it on one skill

[thorny token]

i also played poison exploding gas but that kinda died hen they nerfed SRS triggers

i cba to do wither in normal way

[soft lake]

Yeah, that's the issue. And not enough bleed support anywhere near on the tree

[thorny token]

on that setup

[balmy fable]

well i guess im fucking going ignite infernalist instead

though idk if i even want to do that

might just drop poe2 for awhile

[thorny token]

doesnt increased ailment chance scale it

like generic one

i think it should

[balmy fable]

shouldnt

i dont think

actually generic ailment chance maybe

[soft lake]

It's a multiplier on your chance, yeah

[thorny token]

there is bunch on tree + jewels

[soft lake]

But it's not that strong because there's only 30% bleed chance on the tree in witch's area, so you'd need like 250% increased ailment chance to cap your bleed chance

[balmy fable]

not much on the north side of the tree

you can get like 7% bleed chance on jewels

but you need a LOT of jewels

it feels like they just... forgot to add some bleed stuff in

idk why blood mage has a rainbow bleed node

and then there's like 0 spell bleed support

except for two awful wheels

[soft lake]

Yeah, bleed support - especially for Blood Mage - feels undercooked

[balmy fable]

ya im gonna pivot to infernalist i think

[soft lake]

Especially considering we know there will be weapons with Exsang and Reap but they don't drop yet

[balmy fable]

ignite seems fun at least

or at least... doable

mathils doing it though so who knows if gear will be gettable

other thing im looking at is stormcaller arrow

i have 0 idea if its feasible to play tho

[soft lake]

Poison definitely feels better to me than ignite so far, although admittedly I gave up on my ignite character pretty early

[thorny token]

poison has actual scaling, ignite is mostly liek side thing imo

for shit like hammer

downside of poison having actual scaling is that all tree nodes for poiison are also manadtory

and the position on tree for them is horrible

so not fun to build :d

[soft lake]

Gas Arrow (actually using the gas, not exploding it) is just so smooth for clear, and then I'll be swapping to crossbows in a while using the gloves for all damage can poison

And then Plasma Blast for single-target, Galvanic Shards for clear

[soft lake]

Yeah, it takes a bit of pathing but I don't think it's that bad

[thorny token]

i was thinking about plasma blast poison as well but man is it hard

to actually make work

+2 second attack time is crazy high and poison durations are also low

[soft lake]

Durations go up with some of the passives, at least

[thorny token]

they also go down wit the same passives right next to them :d

[soft lake]

Yeah, but +1 poison

Plasma Blast + Scattershot is 3 poisons so it's worth taking

[thorny token]

its actually 6 poisons

[soft lake]

I've got Pathfinder just for this. The movespeed while reloading is good

[thorny token]

as plasma blast has 2 parts

[soft lake]

I'm not actually taking the double poison node

Oh, that

Yeah

[thorny token]

saying that im also leveling plasma blast char atm but just hit with electrocute on deadeye for 4 shots :d

surely 20k DE can one shot something right

also wind ward is way more op here than in poe1 so deadeye actually kinda solid

[soft lake]

I mostly went Pathfinder for Plasma Blast just for the reduced movement penalty during skills

[thorny token]

and the flask nodes on PF being dogshit is also sad

[soft lake]

But Deadeye is super strong defensively

[thorny token]

i actually hate the whole top section of pf ngl :d

prolif is worse than herald, double poisons only good thing there

like on my gas pathfinder i was reserving heraldanyway

[balmy fable]

i mean it seems like you CAN scale ignite, but youre naturally scaling the base hit also so

[thorny token]

for the extra aoe and hinder

which with vine arrow slow being bugged the hinder kinda important

[soft lake]

Yeah, it seems like ignite is only like a third of your damage even when you scale it

[balmy fable]

dont know, i havent messed too much with it -- its definitely draining my will to play though

I might mess with stormcaller arrow but idk if its even any good

[thorny token]

stormcaller is kinda nice but its just 437% DE default attack with big shock pretty much

it can embed to walls and shit tho

so thats fun

with frost wall

[balmy fable]

thing is theres at least a lot of ignite support on the tree

[soft lake]

Yeah, I'm the same. I might try the poison flask, I think that's probably solid now. Or maybe even the lightning flask with the poison gloves

[obtuse owl]

For local knowledge atlas tree what are jewels and what are socket currencies?

[thorny token]

yea pconc is rly good now

[balmy fable]

i wonder if bleed flask is any good lul

[thorny token]

gets outscaled eventually with weapons

but its good for very good while

[soft lake]

Better than Gas Arrow?

[balmy fable]

but yeah they dont want you using dots as like... a main damage source i think

which is fucking frustrating

[soft lake]

The numbers look solid

[pearl sluice]

anyone want to help me with build on monk im begginer?

[balmy fable]

they did not think the ailment changes through imo

[thorny token]

with like mid weapon yea

[balmy fable]

like i want to go flameblast ignite but... I'm ultimately just going to be a flameblast hit build with a bit of ignite damage

[thorny token]

it has 100% more poison magnitude

[static plinth]

EDC:

[thorny token]

on top of very good base damage

[soft lake]

I like the concept of the ailment changes a lot, but they absolutely need some numerical tweaks/more support

[thorny token]

but mechanically nothing beats gas arrow

[balmy fable]

idk they need something

i do wonder if i go infernalist

can i scale the ignite part

so i can actually like... use that

[thorny token]

especially with vine arrow

[balmy fable]

cuz we've got ignite prolif on a support and ring

[static plinth]

rn Ignite and Bleed mostly feel like filler inbetween your big ol hits

[thorny token]

normally vine arrow is painful as fuck to manage

gas arrow just solves that

[balmy fable]

not to mention explosions

[soft lake]

I'll give it a go for a bit then and see! But yeah, I'm loving the Gas Arrow/Vine Arrow/Toxic Growth combo

[balmy fable]

but idk if ignite does enough damage on its own

[thorny token]

im surprsied you like toxic growth

[balmy fable]

yeah which is silly

[thorny token]

i wanted to uninstall 10 minutes after using it

[balmy fable]

i mean it gets better the more poison damage you have doesnt it

[thorny token]

instead i just removed the gem

and never looked back

[balmy fable]

explodes faster and has more aoe etc

[thorny token]

sure but its not very useful and the self stun never goes away

[balmy fable]

i did notice that yeah lul

[thorny token]

poison doesnt stack infinitely anymore

[soft lake]

It's just a solid single-target option, but you're right about the use time taking forever

[thorny token]

and gas cloud has higher DE tha toxic growth pretty sure

also stacks poison faster

so toxic growth is for like withering touch but then i can just use roa instead and not self stun

[balmy fable]

i just wish SOME of the skills would look fun lmao

[soft lake]

Well you have the Gas Arrow down anyway. The Toxic Growth is just a bunch of hit damage while your poisons do their thing

[balmy fable]

every skill ive wanted to play so far has been ass

a good 70% of them feel half baked

[thorny token]

i usually used that time to reapply roa + make path with vine arrows

as font of rage on vine arrow is pretty op

[balmy fable]

im impressed with the bossing and the way the game looks etc. but the skills are frustrating

[thorny token]

but its annoying to keep it at 30

[soft lake]

Yeah, this is so strong

[balmy fable]

I do wonder if solar orb + flameblast is any good

[thorny token]

but funnily enough if you watch yoruself

you can keep 30 rage for whole map

with vine arrw font

especialy if you have +1 arrow bow so it gets slightly better coverage

[static plinth]

I think Solar Orb is just outclassed by Astral Projection

[balmy fable]

that works? thats dumb LMAO

[wet mango]

I wrote some thoughts on merc passive tree here (guide is glacial bolt but my passive tree musings are build agnostic)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12qtu6jLenw0fq9p5PaHdUuih1rZ9PEjGfvWUnh7pGbo/edit?tab=t.0

tl;dr is that we can generally find plenty of dmg around, the question is do you want to scale Ar or Ev, and that will determine if you path left or right

[soft lake]

Yeah, there are quite a few archetypes that need more support to really shine, I think

[balmy fable]

probably but solar orb would be helpful for clear

[thorny token]

yea its probably only source of font that doesnt have limit on the skill

so you can have whole sreen of fonts

obvuiously they dont stack

[balmy fable]

thats dumb

[thorny token]

but you can move anywehre

lul

[karmic mica]

Hello!.. i have a question (idk if this is the right channel):
has anybody tried using Mind Over Matter + Event Horizon + Chaos Inoculation? in the passive skill tree ... i wanted to know if it will kill you when you use chaos skills XD

Mind Over Matter: All Damage is taken from Mana before Life, 50% Less Mana Recovery Rate

Event Horizon: 53% Increased Chaos Damage, Lose 3% of life and Energy Shield When you use a Chaos Skill

Chaos Inoculation: Maximum Life becomes 1, Immune to Chaos Damage

[balmy fable]

well shit, maybe ill play str stack tremor build or something

[thorny token]

i actively hate bow builds now and how pigeonholed you are into rod

[wet mango]

you would lose 3% of 1 hp

[balmy fable]

stomping ground seems good

[thorny token]

because nothing else in the archetype is actually finihed

[wet mango]

should be fine

[thorny token]

for hit bows ofc

[balmy fable]

that's basically every archetype

[thorny token]

i think poison bows are in nice spot

[balmy fable]

with the exception of maybe poison

and archmage

[thorny token]

obviously missing SCOURGE ARROW

[balmy fable]

pretty much every class is unfinished atm

[karmic mica]

question is.. will i die? xD .. since its a decimal at 1 life

[static plinth]

It rounds up, but i dont think Event Horizon can kill you

[balmy fable]

i just wish potcg didnt lock u into dogshit quarterstaff skills

[thorny token]

yea i noticed that lightning in like 3 classes is very finished

the fire second

and cold last

[balmy fable]

ya

im honestly considering dropping the game for now

i have a witch in act 2 and im just kinda over it

there isnt a single skill i want to play

[karmic mica]

🤔 i see

[balmy fable]

that is actually finished

[thorny token]

if you havent played crossbows yet

highly recommend

requires wasd ofc

[balmy fable]

i started with grenade chaos monk

[thorny token]

but they are designed so well

[balmy fable]

its... okay

felt a bit clunky though

and not a ton of fun

[soft lake]

I can't imagine playing without WASD at this point

[thorny token]

oh the grneade part i dont like much

[static plinth]

I gotta try just playing through the game with an AR

[balmy fable]

plus cluster grenade is dogshit

[thorny token]

i still like mouse for liek just turning my brain off

thats how i played gas arrow

but for crossbows have to play wasd :d

[soft lake]

I tried it but it just wasn't the same

[balmy fable]

is potcg the only str stack we have rn

outside corrupted blood support

[thorny token]

there is also node on tree

but thats about it i think

[balmy fable]

thing is i want to use stomping ground

[thorny token]

applies to int stack and dex stack too (but those two also have howa)

[balmy fable]

which wants u to str stack

[soft lake]

There's a support gem which scales with strength too

[balmy fable]

but if u go potcg u have to use uh

gathering storm

cant use stampede

gathering storm seems like it has awful qol compared to stampede as well

[static plinth]

You can get Iron Grip/Will but i assume thats not relevant

[balmy fable]

nah

big thing is i think it would feel like ass

to go str stack for stomping ground

and not use potcg

but......

[thorny token]

also theres timeless for stacking obviously

[balmy fable]

the only travel skill is uh

[thorny token]

and str timeless is best timeless

like you can totally skip potcg

and just abuse the timeless jewel

[balmy fable]

what does the timeless do

i havent seen any timeless jewels in 2

[thorny token]

1% es per 2 strength

[static plinth]

There's only one for Kalguur

[balmy fable]

oh so u get defenses from that for free lmao

idk if there's enough damage though

[thorny token]

and th most busted defense too!

[balmy fable]

from just stomping ground + str stack

[thorny token]

probs not unless you can spam stomping ground super hard

[balmy fable]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Stomping_Ground

doesnt seem to have a cd

and it does 120% of your str as damage

each time you take a step

[gray ferry]

i know this has probably been asked a million times but when do you want %phys runes vs added damage runes? 🤔

[thorny token]

step triggers def happen way more often in poe2

than in poe1

[balmy fable]

question is is that enough damage for stampede

[thorny token]

when i was playing decompose

that thing spam consumed everything in sight

[static plinth]

Its literally every time your feet touch the ground (This means the Faridun mtx makes you unable to activate it)

[balmy fable]

i guess u can still pick up some mace damage while travelling for ur str

[thorny token]

wouldnt shield chareg or something be better trigger?

[balmy fable]

has a cd

u could use gathering storm

but that has the weird leap backwards animation

upside to gathering storm is u could use potcg

I mean stampede is good because its a movement skill that has good clear + works for stomping ground

[soft lake]

I wonder if weapon passives would be useful here

PotCG in one weapon slot, a mace in the other

With some different passives for each

I feel like weapon set passives are something that have a lot more to them than people have really explored so far

Especially Witchhunter with its 2348973214 weapon set passives

[thorny token]

well its mostly like

the most common use cases require 2 good weapons

and thats like dual wield problem from poe1

just pain

[soft lake]

Yeah, it definitely makes things more expensive

But I think it adds quite a lot of potential to builds that people haven't necessarily made use of yet

[balmy fable]

its also like... at that point why dont u just use potcg

why use stomping ground