2┃build-planning

[finite yacht]

chaos blood mage

sorry hex is wrong name, is chaos haha

[tidal copper]

I thought it was going to be a heckler build

Pity

[elder plank]

you gain it on top, as it states

[finite yacht]

i am searching a guide to play blood mage

but dont have easy this

[sterile stone]

just wait until buff

[untold patio]

For my Warrior friends out there, does the support gem “devastate” (fully break their armor on a heavy stun) seem to not work on boneshatter for you?!

[wraith fox]

i wonder if i can build around reducing the sound of my build

[tidal copper]

That's good you can make the guide yourself
What's your current issue?

[sterile stone]

sanguimancy needs buff its just way too costly

[tidal copper]

Ssssh we are building something great

[wraith fox]

my warrior is using blood magic just fine

[finite yacht]

i am a new player, playing with other class chronomancer hammer and I'm afraid to make a build by me self and become weak

[sterile stone]

if you dont mind failing i highly recommend trying things out

[finite yacht]

I'm looking for some guide to make something playable and make endgame content

[tidal copper]

You picked without a doubt a complicated class and a weak one

[sterile stone]

if failing stress you out then just follow a build

[wraith fox]

i just got to act 2 cruel on a new build ive been seeing and i think it could be fairly new player friendly so long you understand what the build wants

[tidal copper]

If you just want a a newbie guide in general we can offer it to you
I do find it fun to fail and rebuild but I understand the frustration too

[sterile stone]

you can also follow a build and make 2nd char so you have something to fall back onto

[wraith fox]

the build goes something like this: ( )

[distant glade]

Lol

[tidal copper]

If you don't play corrupting cry at full volume are you playing it right?

[wraith fox]

fr

[distant glade]

Im playing earthshatter warbringer but I feel like it might just be a worse version of corrupting cry

[wraith fox]

righteous cryer is such a great build

im an RF fanboy and i needed this

[atomic ruin]

need some help trying to get a sorceress build that takes 220 spirit but im also running chaos innoc ghostwrite so im strugglin to figure out how to get the 120 spirit

since no spirit chest

[wraith fox]

well gotta try to roll for it somehow, and amulet and whatnot

[tidal copper]

Does spirit have any tags

[atomic ruin]

mm ill look around for amulets then

[gray ferry]

You can get something like 60 spirit off an amulet but that's not enough, I think the other place you can get it is from a scepter

[bold saffron]

does taking physical dmg in trial = honor lost too?

[gray ferry]

Alpha's howl helm exists for +100 though, but it seems like that's expensive atm

[jagged thunder]

i keep seeing stuff like this. where will this node gain the "Damage" from?

i have Bow for example my bow does a all three dmg types and physical so where exactly attributes like this gain damage from?

[wraith fox]

i just got a random yellow with +50 spirit

do you want it

[atomic ruin]

greatly appreciated

[wraith fox]

it aint much but it got 50 spirit

[atomic ruin]

cant robe sadly

otherwise id be chilling

[twilit cairn]

does totems need accuary rating or do they always hit ?

[atomic ruin]

might have to take of chaos maybe

[wraith fox]

ah, whats your stats

[gray ferry]

Totems use your accuracy rating

[wraith fox]

dex?

[atomic ruin]

i have ghostwrithe on rn

for ci

[wraith fox]

ah right

[random ridge]

is there any way to make spirit skills cost less? mostly blasphemy

[gray ferry]

You could play evasion energy shield maybe with Alpha's howl?

[wraith fox]

idk if boots or gloves can roll spirit, havent personally seen it

helmets too

[gray ferry]

Idk how much of your spirit you need but with an amulet + Alpha's you could maybe squeeze in tailwind / ghost shroud

can't get it on boots afaik, can check poe2 db for modifiers that can roll on gear

[atomic ruin]

also uh does apex of the moment need to be activated because ive got the node activated but its not showing up as a debuff or anything

ic aight

thanks for all the help

[teal kiln]

hi is there anyway to get mana regen fast? im having trouble with my mana on my ranger using lightning arrow i am lvl 18

[gray ferry]

there's obv scepters as well which give a tonne of spirit, but Idk if it benefits you much if you're not playing minions

[wraith fox]

yeah dont think scepters can roll dmg

[gray ferry]

most of its modifiers are directed towards boosting allies 😔

and you don't benefit from your own auras in poe2

[bold saffron]

guys

[wraith fox]

well theres the amulet that gives you a bit of mana regen, but i didnt have mana problems on my ranger until lvl 30+

[bold saffron]

does "take 361 physical damage" also damage ur honor in trial?

[atomic ruin]

yesh

[wraith fox]

all dmg damages your honor

[bold saffron]

1 dmg = 1 honor?

[teal kiln]

thanks ill try to look one.

[wraith fox]

well its the damage minus your resistances minus honor resistances

Which is why relics with honor res and max honor are really good

[bold saffron]

ah, okay, yeah im at 4500/5500 atm so i can take 360 for a boon

super worth it then

3rd trial atm

[frail sedge]

Which Catalyst should I use to buff quality on critical chance amulet?

[gray ferry]

best of luck

[wraith fox]

if its only for htat one room it sounds alright

good luck in the trial of sigmas 🙏

[frail sedge]

I mean what quality is crit?

[bold saffron]

yeah one room, its a pledge

[frail sedge]

Attack quality?

[gray ferry]

with upcoming patch we will also get up to 35% reduced honor damage taken depending on how close we are to enemies so that's nice for melee characters

[pearl sluice]

Do we anticipate the chain freeze nerf affecting builds that already invest into cold, freeze, and freeze buildup? Or, will this builds likely be fine but the nerf is targeted at non-cold builds that are able to chain freeze?

[wraith fox]

thank god

[frail sedge]

Pls 😦 anyone?

[wraith fox]

are you refrencing essences

[frail sedge]

Yep

The catalysts

[wraith fox]

crit should fall in attack iirc

but dont take my word on it

[gray ferry]

idk it seems like its targetted at chain freezing bosses to the point where bosses can't do anything

but idk the numbers on how much they've reduced freeze build up shortly after a freeze

[wraith fox]

monks go brr

[pearl sluice]

Lightning monks are chain freezing with HoI being their only cold investment. I hope that is what is targeted, and not cold-centric builds.

[gray ferry]

my guess is they want bosses to have at least a few seconds to play the game before being frozen again lol

but will need to see numbers

[wraith fox]

but my enjoyment > boss enjoyment

jk

[frail sedge]

Nope didnt work

Nothing changed

Can crit even be buffed by those qualites then?

[pearl sluice]

Pretty sure attack and crit will have a different pool of modifiers, at least they did in POE1 (using harvest as the reference)

[frail sedge]

Cuz none seem to fit

[coarse shale]

Can you not search for items with rune sockets on the trading website? the "gem socket" filter doesn't seem to work.

[wraith fox]

well im looking at fextralife wiki right now, and i dont see anything refrencing crit directly

[pearl sluice]

It’s in the base stat section

[frail sedge]

Physical might be the other option

If attack's not it

[coarse shale]

oh I missed it 🤦‍♂️ Thanks mate

[pearl sluice]

Unless they changed it, Critical has its own pool. It won’t be attack or physical.

[frail sedge]

Mehh

Thx

[pearl sluice]

Attack and Physical can’t apply to Critical on jewelry, because the crit modifiers are jewelry aren’t unique to attack or physical - they’re global crit modifiers, AFAIK

[random ridge]

does leveling up skills like blasphemy do anything?

[atomic ruin]

decreases the amount of effect it trains i think

drains*

[vital locust]

does eldrich battery benefit from %max engery shield notes?

[twin mauve]

does having more flat lightning dmg increase chance of shocking? wondering how big of a difference is 1-20 vs 2-40. i randomly tested 1-20 and nothing and it seems to be about the same but i was doing it on random bosses lol

[tidal copper]

Maybe

[silver warren]

Guys, I took off Eldritch Battery for 3rd Lab to buff honor and I think I like it better than life and “mana before life” nodes

Threw on Grim Feast and feels good

[silver warren]

No

[wet mango]

It does not

Crit is crit

(remember spells can crit too)

[wet mango]

Crit ctalyst

[wet mango]

Never use fextralife lol

[hexed crown]

is this amulet good?

[tidal copper]

Worth if you can use spirit ig?

[mystic shard]

Is there any mage comparison to josh strife hayes "fart dart"

Like is there a way to get a gas arrow affect to make the explosion as a mage.

Or any OTHER mega dmg build like that

[slender fern]

bruh Ice Invoker is so Op im killing count geoner in like 20 seconds just by freezing him in cruel mode

[mystic shard]

how does that work?

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Also is there a way to sacrifice energy shield for health instead? Like eldritch battery? Except for health?

[blissful parcel]

can anyone tell me where does the surrender shield drop from?

[mystic shard]

was that a reply to me? is that like using cold snap or?

[wraith fox]

i would if any other wiki came up

[normal fable]

Its random

[blissful parcel]

is it tied to any endgame boss? like the ingenuity?

[mossy sable]

Don't think it was a reply to you, but Ice monk uses Ice Strike from quarterstaff tree and it deletes stuff really fast

You only have real problems with the "anti-melee" content

[mystic shard]

thanks a lot

one last thing, let me ask this

ur weapon skill points

are they actually extra points?

[wraith fox]

yes

you can choose to put them into weapon slots or not

[sharp hawk]

yes, but by default both weapon paths are in the same slots

you dont have 24 extra ontop, you can just skill 24 different than you currently have for set 2

[wraith fox]

putting 2 points into weapon slot 1, givse you 2 points to use for slot 2 as well. up until the cap of what you have

[mystic shard]

right so say im level 100, got the 124 points.

Can i I then have it up to 144 (without losing any points from that 124 with the weapon equipped)

With my main weapon set?

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So it cant exceed the cap of what you have.

So like, on the build calculator, with 124 skill points.

After I max that out, the other 20 from the main weapon, I can't add that on TOP for 144 points worth at all times?

[wraith fox]

the 124 is with the weapon points you get

[mystic shard]

right I thought so

so the other 20 are like swap out options, ok, either way I dno how to use em, but it doesnt matter as I only really care about one set anyhow.

Thx

[wraith fox]

You can only allocate the amount of weapon skills you have from your campaign into each set. Or you can choose to use them globally

most people probably wouldnt bother dealing with weapon swapping anyways and just allocate them into the general character

[mystic shard]

So to be clear, if I open a talent calculator, and it says I have 124 points (tahts + the skull books)

I cant then have another 20 ON TOP

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I CANT have that right?

dont explain it to me as it just confuses me more, I can't or I can

[wraith fox]

No because it calculates with the additional weapon points

oh

[mystic shard]

ok thank u

[vital hornet]

Is Anvil of gods Chronomancer a meme build? I'm tempted to start caster chronomancer and then respec to maul melee around 20 lvls while it isn't super costly yet. Or full respec is too costly?

[mossy sable]

Weapon swap points are not extra

[wraith fox]

they are

[mossy sable]

Huh?

[wraith fox]

whenever you get the weapon points book you get +2 points for free

but you also increase your weapon set points to allocate

[mossy sable]

Ah .. haven't found them yet

[brittle jetty]

they are not extra on top of the 124

[wraith fox]

No because the 124 is with the books no?

[compact tulip]

does anyone know if you can still evade hits while your shield is raised?

[frail sedge]

Whats the name of it??

[mossy sable]

Shield would block the hit so you wouldn't need evasion there

[wraith fox]

whenever you get a weapon skill point you also increase the amount of points you can allocate into each set

But you can also choose to use them outside of it and not care about it

[compact tulip]

poe2db.tw

[wraith fox]

They are free passive points in essence

[compact tulip]

That's not the question brother

[wraith fox]

But you can also allocate however many points your have available stated in the top right of your passive tree

But they use your current points

[past grove]

how to add block chance to socket in shield?

[rain plover]

For supports that say "... while using suported skills" does that only appy during the cast animation or for the entire duration the spell is active... like if I add Stun Threshold for bone cage, do I only get the benefit during the cast animation or does it last the entire time bone cage is up?

[stone solar]

I found this really cool build through a Korean YouTuber!

15T(81Lv) BOSS One Shot 100% Critical Blood Mage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFQsTmspBs

[feral flame]

can anyone help me with a build for a merc that dosent involve grenades ?

[wraith fox]

ive heard the galvanic shard thing or what the full name is good

[feral flame]

or rather grenades as the primary skill ?

[feral flame]

ive heard of it too but im not sure how to exactly build it

[wraith fox]

Well you could just try it blindly or follow a guide

i havent personally played a merc further than 2 zones in act 1

But im assuming just projectile dmg, attack speed, lightning dmg are all good nodes to take

Just look at the passive tree and see whats close and kinda branch out

Or you could look at a guide ofc, no shame in that

[feral flame]

the thing is i personally dont mind goign in blind but i have almost 0 clue on the skill gem list or support list how they would interact with each other that is my main issue

rn , i am using glavanic arrow + lightning infusion and double barrel , and powering up with herald of thunder

but apart from that i dont really know what else to do , just chuck an odd grenade here and there lol

but it feels a bit lacking to stay the least especially with only 2 slots in skills

[hot cobalt]

Hey everyone!! is there some item or unique or something that converts a % of life to mana?

[wraith fox]

Well the feel of a build dependant can vary if youre dependant on a good weapon

early game getting a weapon with added flat dmg is very good

since getting a % scaling on a low number is worse than just adding flat dmg

[feral flame]

huh i actually didnt think of it like that , i did drop a rare crossbow in act 1 so im sticking with that for now especially with how hard loot is to come by , ive just reached act 2

[wraith fox]

I just opened the gems for galvanic shards, do you have access to tier 2 or 3 support gems?

[lofty pebble]

I'm having trouble with invoker currently. I have very high level gems, each attack costs 10% of my max mana so leech doesn't do anything sadly. I can't really play league mechanics with high density since I can attack at most for 5 seconds before running dry.
I see there are mods that say restore mana on kill. Is there any other way to consistently generate mana?

[feral flame]

not yet\

all the support gems im getting are t1

[wraith fox]

but as im looking at it all of the 3 recommended tier 1 supports sounds great for your build

[jolly aspen]

any idea why the first one gives 71% evasion, and the second 63%? makes no sense

[wet mango]

During the casting/attack time

[lofty pebble]

different area lvl I would guess.

[wet mango]

Wdym 71%

[feral flame]

not yeah i wish i could find a way to increase the sockets tho

[pearl sluice]

Any deadeye phisical dmg build?

[feral flame]

still not sure how to do that

[jolly aspen]

on character sheet, you can see a % of evasion, thats what I mean

[wraith fox]

you need a lesser jewelers orb to drop, they can be hard to find. But that will make you go from 2 to 3 sockets. and then you need a greater from 3 to 4 and then perfect from 4 to 5

[candid moss]

Anyone (particularly witches) have any opinions at what point of the game to replace Ullr boots? Like when is moment speed better than the 20% less reservation

[feral flame]

i see , also is it just me or are chaos orbs like almost non existent lol i found exalted orbs before finding chaos orbs lmao

[solemn arrow]

Any infernalist witch builds that maximize demon form uptime?

[jolly aspen]

this

[wraith fox]

chaos are a bit more rare than exalts in poe2. they've kinda swapped places in the currency hierarchy lmao

[dawn spire]

Does the first one grant dex that you need to equip another piece of gear with evasion on it?

[feral flame]

oh wait really ? lol thats funny

[bold saffron]

u sure u didnt confuse them around? 245 one looks clearly better

[jolly aspen]

man i'm so stupid, u are right

[bold saffron]

maybe the first one has dex below

[bold saffron]

beat me to it xd

[jolly aspen]

xd

[dawn spire]

xd

[feral flame]

btw if i find a perfect jewellers orb and use it on a skill slot that haas only 2 unlocked do i immediately get all slots unlocked ?

or do i need to find the lesser and the middle tier version before that

[wet mango]

Do you get evasion from Dex somehow. Or maybe the calculation is (bugged to) depend on ilvl of your gear somehow?

[feral flame]

also shiit perfect ones are like 1 D at minimum

never gonna get that lol

[wraith fox]

No, it only goes from 4 to 5

[compact tulip]

Is there a cooldown recovery cap?

[wraith fox]

so you need to use 1 lesser, greater and then perfect

[feral flame]

huh a little annoying in that case

[dawn spire]

I believe the orb says that it goes from X sockets to Y sockets. I don't think you can skip steps

[feral flame]

ahh okay

[dawn spire]

No

[feral flame]

at least lesser ones are going for like 1 aug orb

[wraith fox]

But lesser jewelers start to drop more as you lvl, and greaters are still fairly rare but not too hard. ive had 3 drop total so far. No perfect yet

[wraith fox]

correct

example

[still rock]

Someone show this to the hordes of Blood Mages crying that they cant use their ascendancy without leech lmao

[feral flame]

saw the prices in poe2 trade , and yeah id guess so , never thought id see jewellers orbs selling for 1 D lmao

[dawn spire]

But it's worth mentioning that the stat you see most regarding cool down is cool down recovery rate.

100% increased cool down recovery rate does NOT mean you have no more cool downs. It means they recover twice as fast, ie, your cool downs are halved. You can never reach "no cool down" from cdrr

[still rock]

Think of it more as 70 jeweller's and 150 fusings

in one item

[sharp pike]

I'm so confused by herald of ash, specifically the quality bonus. Am I reading it wrong or does quality make the skill objectively worse?

[feral flame]

oh damn i see , i guess having more of a deterministic system for jewellers is nice and also no more fusings feels good

[frosty arrow]

pretty nutty grenadier crossbow just for act 3, makes leveling a breeze

[wraith fox]

love seeing this

[frosty arrow]

no. It ignites surrounding enemies IF overkill was at least 20%. Quality makes that threshold lower. So you need less overkill damage to trigger it

[sharp pike]

Right, except it looks like quality makes the threshold higher.

21% threshold.

[still rock]

No

[frosty arrow]

or it bumps the damage of applied ignite? Reading it now again

so it increases how much of overkill translates to ignite damage. Right?

[still rock]

It takes x% of the overkill damage as the base for the ignite, the quality just adds up to 2% for this

Even if you only do1 overkill damage this still works

[sharp pike]

If that's the case then the wording could be made clearer

[still rock]

Seems pretty clear to me - base ignite is 22% of the overkill

[pure sentinel]

Hi guys, I’ve got some ex orbs that I wanna use to buy armour for end game.

Can somebody please tell me what stats I should be looking for for end End game ?

[sharp pike]

Yeah but it says it needs to do at least 20% overkill to trigger at all

[still rock]

It doesnt say that anywhere

[sharp pike]

Unless English changed since I learned it, it does.

[wraith fox]

sounds correct to me

20% overkill needed

[sharp pike]

And quality seems to raise that threshold. In which case, quality makes it worse.

[wraith fox]

it does?

oh yeah

[quick eagle]

Good morning exiles

[wraith fox]

that doesnt seem right, its probably meant to be the opposite direction

[sharp pike]

It could be that the tooltip is wrong, of course.

[sharp pike]

That's my assumption

[wraith fox]

EA gaming innit

[sharp pike]

Someone missed a - when coding that.

Maybe I should bug report it

[wraith fox]

do that

[tiny stirrup]

Guys for lightning arrow is getting +1 Pierce target from tree same thing with %100 Pierce from quiver?

[wraith fox]

no

+1 pierce target means you can pierce +1 additional enemy. 100% pierce means you always pierce

[quick eagle]

You want all your resistances as high as possible (cap the elemental ones at 75% for sure, get chaos as high as you can) and then for whichever defensive strategy you have (armor, HP, dodge, ES, mana, whatever) you want a bunch of that too.

Then of course, lots of damage

[pure sentinel]

Ok so priority should be

Resil
Chaos
armour
Damage
? In that order ?

[wraith fox]

well armour is meh meh

[vital hornet]

Are Infernalist incoming damage replacement additive with other effects like that? With Fire robe for example (replaces 40% physical damage with fire damage)

[quick eagle]

I mean, going for ES or dodge is unlikely as a titan. Armour is good for some people

[quick eagle]

I would say
Res
HP & Damage
Armour
Chaos res

[pure sentinel]

Ok

[wraith fox]

chaos res priority goes higher as you get into higher maps

[pure sentinel]

Thank you!

What about rings and amulets?

[sleek wadi]

Anyone that can give me advice if its a smart thing go from minion build to chaos demon? I want a more active gameplay?

[wispy minnow]

Spam your firewall even more!

[wraith fox]

resistances and life and whatever else you need

[wet mango]

They all happen in 1 step yes

[static thicket]

Anyone have any tips for bloodmage? I'm struggling on t3-4 maps. I have capped ele res and 65% chaos res. I just occasionally get destroyed and it's just kinda frustrating. I only have 1.7k life maybe that's the problem? Phys mitigation seems hard to get but maybe I should shuffle things around and get cloak of flames? I'm just unsure how it'd feel.

[vital hornet]

So together it is 60% replacement?

[obsidian grove]

what determines how many support sockets are on your auto attack?

[wet mango]

Clvl

[obsidian grove]

clvl?

[wraith fox]

character lvl?

[plain sentinel]

More life would definitely help. Personally I'd just take Crimson Power, it's far too valuable not to take unless you're playing some crazy crit build. It's a huge chunk of free life with little investment.

[proven rapids]

"Increased Energy Shield" is different from "Increased Maximum Energy Shield".

=> What does this mean ? What is the difference?

[wraith fox]

first one increases the value on the item, the 2nd increases your total max energy shield you have

[feral flame]

how do i change the rolls on a magic item ?

i want to change the rolls for my flask

[opaque bluff]

you dont

[plain sentinel]

Ohhhh, so that's how it works.

[opaque bluff]

you need a new flask

[feral flame]

wait reallyy ?????

[static canyon]

can anyone tell me what are the sources for increasing spark damage

[frank gull]

I have capped res with only like 20 chaos res and im cruising through T8 and T9. I am infernalist though so maybe its the ascendancy difference. I am new to the game. Definitely find it interesting though that you are struggling on T3-4 with better hp and chaos res than me

[wraith fox]

divine orbs are used to reroll the numbers on a yellow item only. and thats the only way

[quick eagle]

Just throw alteration orbs at it until you get what you like

Or just get a different flask to save money

[feral flame]

alsoi havent seen a single alteration orb lol

weird

[proven rapids]

Damn, so you're telling me the keystone that change int bonus from +2 mana per 2 int to +1% increased energy shield per 2 int will increase all flat es from my equipment ?

[static thicket]

Skill issue maybe? I tend to have a bad habit of trying to force my spark/firewall/oos combo even if I'm getting surrounded.

[opaque bluff]

what skill you are using is as much as anything, and bone and chaos skills are poor and going to get buffed soon

[wet mango]

Sarcastic or not? Alts are poe1

[wraith fox]

ah on the tree it will increase your energy shield gain i think

so 1% more on each item

[frank gull]

Fair, I am also partly playing the game on easy mode tbh since I am running minions

[wraith fox]

not entirely certain

[quick eagle]

and...poe 2?

[feral flame]

also lets say you turn a magic item to a rare item using regal orb , will the magic item still have its original stats ? + new rare stats or all random stats

[static thicket]

I'm running crit spark which is Insane for how many health globes are around but just struggling with one shots

[feral flame]

literally someone said to use alt orbs on items it was a reply to them

[quick eagle]

original. Just +1 stat

[feral flame]

and no not sarcastic

[wraith fox]

it keeps its original prefixes and suffixes, and gets new ones yes

magic items can only have 2 extra modifiers, rare items can have 6

[wet mango]

Wdym

[opaque bluff]

did you take teh leech node, and any increased leech nodes? Also if you have plenty of money you can annoint the overleech notable on your amulet

[elder plank]

I have heard somewhere in a random yt vid i watched (can't remember which) that Iron Reflexes works differently in PoE2? Does any1 know how?

Also do nodes like 80% increased armor (Sturby Metal node on Warrior start) from body armor etc. work when taking Iron Reflexes?

[wet mango]

Yes I assumed they were also being sarcastic

[static thicket]

No went with 15% crit. Increased sparks crit from 24% to like 48%. Maybe spell leech would be better.

Damage feels so good tho so it's hard to drop

[wet mango]

Because that's what you did in poe1

[opaque bluff]

you have that crit per life node and only 1.5k life? Think you just need to get more life on things then

[wet mango]

I think I spend like 2.1k weeks for my tincture

[quick eagle]

in Poe 1, because evasion is converting to armor with IR, getting a 10% armor node or 10% evasion node was effectively the same thing. They would both work

However, in poe2, they changed how conversion works, so now I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong), evasion would do nothing, only the armor

[static thicket]

Fair enough. Definitely lacking there it sounds like. I'll start there and see how it feels.

[wraith fox]

ah so you cant double dip

[graceful stag]

You don't get damage from pre converted stuff only the final

[quick eagle]

Well, it didn't double dip originally either, because nothing was counted twice, but you're on the right track

[wraith fox]

ah well i count is as a double dip since your increasing your phantom evasion into more armor, while also increasing armor

[neat dew]

Is there a practical way to dps check?

[static canyon]

my spark has currently 5k damge how to get it to 10k

[quick eagle]

I see what you mean, but there were actually sources of genuine double dipping as far as stats getting counted twice in calculations, so you may confuse someone by improperly using the term

[wraith fox]

more dmg

fair enough

[neat dew]

Increase damage is more about the items than the passives

[feral flame]

go to find lesser jewllers orb in trade site , its filled with bots that are selling it for 1 exalted orb for 2 jewllers , tho listing as 1 aug orb

fun

[static canyon]

on which items can i increase damage except wand?

[wraith fox]

its not always bots, but people wanting to try to get the price down by never selling

[spring temple]

you can get jewellers from the currency exchange in game, that might be easier

[wraith fox]

for lightning damage, you can go voltaic staff

[kind timber]

is attack speed a physical modifier?

[stone fog]

Act 2 srs witch and got a an uncut spirit gem but this build doesn’t mention where to use them

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/minion-army-infernalist-leveling-guide#faq-header

help please

[feral flame]

wait there is currency exchange in game ?? where ?

[elder plank]

@quick eagle @graceful stag so does this mean, when I take IR, i stil lget a shitton of armor on ful levasion gear (and with probablyl also +evasion and %evasion nodes, there fully convert to armor, but taking +armor and %armor nodes will do nothing as the conversion takes place after the nodes are calculated?

furthermore this would also mean since "Sturdy Metal" calculates 80% armor of body armor, if the body armor deosnt have armor on it because it's evasion, it will just not work, as IR calculates nodes first and then converts it?

did i get this correctly for PoE2?

[kind timber]

you unlock it at act 1 cruel. Finn is the first person you can do it with

[wraith fox]

unlocks in act 1 cruel

[abstract rock]

After act 3

[spring temple]

gotem

[feral flame]

from what im seeing its bots , just seeing listings from two different accounts in market on this

[feral flame]

ah rip , ive just gotten to act 2

[spring temple]

yeah unfortunately the currency exchange means that people trading currency on the site are kind of looking for scraps and probably running some kind of hustle

[atomic ruin]

am i cooking too hard with a blink + cast on dodge build comet build?

[static osprey]

Hey, I'm a new player and at lvl 23 with my ranger and luckily got this when doing my Trial. Should I buy a Quiver from someone else or do something else crafting wise to this? Got 1 orb to corrupt it or should I add runes to it or what?

[feral flame]

yeah true , ngl currency excahnge is a godsend , sad that its post act 3

[abstract rock]

You will get there don’t worry. Just chill and enjoy this wonderful game. You may get lucky and just find a jeweller

[feral flame]

wouldve been really useful now

[obsidian grove]

this is actually a pretty valuable item, it is close to a perfect roll

[quick eagle]

You almost got it right.

Yes, you get a lot of armor with full evasion gear

Anything that gives you + a flat amount of evasion will give you + flat armor instead

Anything that gives %inc evasion will do nothing

Sturdy metal will give a bunch of armor

Just pretend your armor says "armour" instead of evasion, and go for %armour increases

[wheat elk]

Anyone know how much poison magnitude would be a sweet spot to get toxic growths to explode quick? I wanna try a build with it that isnt neccasarily poison.

[wraith fox]

think youre better off just finding a better bow with higher physical dmg

[stone fog]

I suppose my question is after I’ve got lvl 4 srs, I just got a lvl6 spirit gem. Do I upgrade srs or get something else?

[feral flame]

fingers crossed , just finding my build a little weak but i think thats cause its a skill issue more than anything

[tidal copper]

Check the price as is
Then proceed to decide if gamble is worth

[spring temple]

yeah i strongly disagree with locking it behind act 3 progress when jewellers are so cheap and so impactful and so rare, really messes with early progression

[abstract rock]

What class and build are you playing?

[elder plank]

okay but there is no interaction between IR and Sturdy Metal, correct? so if i have 200 eva body piece, no armor on it, take IR, Sturdy Metal WILL NOT increase my "armor" (through IR) on this, correct?

[quick eagle]

Getting another spirit gem won't do you much good unless you have more spirit to reserve something else. So either upgrade SRS or use it on something else and reserve something else instead

But it depends on your build, because some of those spirit gems will be more useful than others

[quick eagle]

Hmmm, good question. I think it will work but I am not sure

[static osprey]

Have this atm. Just figured Widowhail would be better with some quiver that has 4x Add DPS modifiers to it?

[stone fog]

Boring srs witch spam. Will just upgrade srs. I need to farm more support gems though. Still missing a few of those

[elder plank]

i guess i will try it out sometime, thanks for the explanations and help!

[wraith fox]

even with the quiver nodes on the passive tree, i dont think quivers can give you more dmg than just a great bow

[feral flame]

im doing a merc playthrough but i dont really like grenades , so just trying out different styles so far im enjoying galvanic shot cause it has more bullets lol but apart from that im kiiiinda lost

[still rock]

korean vine arrow build enters the chat

[wheat elk]

Anyone know how much poison magnitude would be a sweet spot to get toxic growths to explode quick? I wanna try a build with it that isnt necessarily poison so i'd need enough poison to basically make em pop but nothing more.

[wraith fox]

[feral flame]

yeah , it should be like poe1 where faustus is available since act 1

[still rock]

I think its funny that it still says Faustus has completed your currency order

I did a giggle

[spring temple]

how do you know he didn't

maybe you're just talking to a middleman

[graceful stag]

That's a very niche unique but you have a very good roll on it should u could sell it for a lot

You'll likely get way more damage from a normal bow again it's something super niche

[still rock]

Faustus the forex kingpin

[feral flame]

maybe faustus has always been a pseudonym

[spring temple]

he is legion

[feral flame]

kinda like shadow broker from mass effect

[still rock]

We are all Faustus on this blessed day

[feral flame]

real faustus were the friends we made along the way

[static osprey]

Okay thanks! Any advice on how much I should try to get from it, is in the range of 2-5 exalted / 12-15 / 20-50?

[wraith fox]

check the trading website

[bold pulsar]

Greetings! Quick question. Im running gas grenade. I tried taking a few chaos damage passives from the tree, but my gas grenades poison damage didnt increase. Is it broken?

[feral flame]

still trying to figure out my build tho lol its kiiiiinda annoying switching from every single bolt type but it is what it is XD

[wraith fox]

poison dmg doesnt get increased from +% chaos dmg

[graceful stag]

I'd look at what other bows around the 240% mark are selling for do keep in mind being 1-2% within the max roll of 250% will dramatically inflate the price due to rich people being silly

[still rock]

Try 1ex if anyone even whispers you to buy it

its a leveling unique

[bold pulsar]

@wraith fox How come gas grenade is tagged with chaos then?

[alpine pecan]

do you think there is any point at all to get more ignite chance for flameblast? i imagine it will ignite every time anyway due to the hit damage?

[still rock]

and replaced rather quickly and doesnt work with a lot of skills correctly so its niche as it is

[spring temple]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/8e4ynBbcV
that trade will show you bows with similar (or higher) stats

[abstract rock]

Damn. I haven’t gotten to try merc yet, and most of the builds are gas grenade. But I can definitely help you with anything you need except your build. Am act2 almost act3 cruel

[near turtle]

Best way to get 600 strength

[still rock]

poison does chaos dmg

[wraith fox]

poison does chaos dmg

The tooltip for poison in the game explains the full scaling of it

You need poison magnitude

[still rock]

[bold pulsar]

So poison does chaos damage, but doesnt get more chaos damage from chaos multipliers?

[still rock]

Gas arrow doesnt work like a normal poison tbf

[bold pulsar]

xD

[wraith fox]

Correct, you need poison magnitude

[bold pulsar]

Oh well haha. Thanks Frosty!

[spring temple]

poison gets increased damage from chaos damage if the hit that caused the poison was dealing chaos damage

[feral flame]

haha its all good , i just have almsot no clue on what support gem goes well with what and also the all the different types of skills avaialble so im having a hard time decinding how to build .... apart from that im jsut trying to get some decent gear

[still rock]

Gas arrow is just a straight up attack damage calculation that does damage as if it was Poison

[wraith fox]

no problem, and remember to read the in game tooltips. they explain most things fairly well

[feral flame]

crossbow isnt the best but it has some good rare mods for what it has

[abstract rock]

What lvl are you, and what gear do you need?

[feral flame]

im level 18 , and i just got on the uh caravan from act 2 , like killed the hyena dude

[still rock]

[feral flame]

like i said not the best , but mods in it are decent enough

my gloves and boots suck

[dusky tartan]

what you guys this. Is it better to go full evasion chest or hybrid. Same with helmet pure ES or hybrid. Planning to use those two ascendancy where i convert ER/ES to Spirit and ER to PDR (edited) ( Invoker)

[abstract rock]

Okay. I’ll look if I can find anything when am home

[feral flame]

and helmet is just the first rare helmet i found one the ground

[still rock]

itll kill stuff for 10 levels

sure

[feral flame]

yeah its doing the job fine for now

[woven bough]

any way to see total skill points amount? want to respec everything and was trying to calculate the cost

[spring temple]

i think hybrid gets you the most for the chest->spirit conversion, and having a lot of spirit can let you stack things like Ghost Dance and Wind Dancer on top of your other stuff which really boosts your total Evasion

[wraith fox]

isnt it just lvl + weapon skill points

or lvl -1 + weapon points

[woven bough]

oh does every extra drop count as wep skill point?

[spring temple]

that's so smart

[woven bough]

thx then

[spring temple]

he's a genius

[abstract rock]

I went hybrid with invoker. I currently have 97 sprit

[woven bough]

ong

[wraith fox]

all the free points you get are weapon skill points, shown top right in the passive tree menu

lmao

[woven bough]

550k it is then

gonna wait for the patch

[wraith fox]

its jason "blood" borne

[olive sapphire]

whats the better ascendancy for a tank shotgunner merc?

[still rock]

i hope they rephrase/add help ui for weapon skill points cause theyre sooo unintuitive rn

[sage tulip]

hello I was wondering something, if I use a skill like rapid shot for cross bows but add on the herald of thunder would the bolt now only do fire and lightning damage or would it be just pure lightning ?

[dusky tartan]

Gotcha. What about helm? Want to use this also? Pure ES or hybrid? 🤔

[wraith fox]

if you use this just get a pure ES helmet

[still rock]

witch hunter is probably better if you have to ask which one is better

[frail sedge]

Whats it called?? Cant find it

[olive sapphire]

ok ty

[sinful elm]

Im on cruel act 1 and tryin get my sorc unbricked, I’ve tried a couple and they feel like shit.. does anyone have in mind a solid build to start clearing cruel with

[wraith fox]

herald of thunder doesnt change your dmg

[dusky tartan]

Aight. Thanks

[olive sapphire]

is it true witch hunter reduces my armor and evasion rating by 50%?

[still rock]

wat

[wraith fox]

what

[spring temple]

i THINK the answer is pure ES but i never did the math

[dusky tartan]

@wraith fox I don't have math. I need probably over 200 spirit. If i will have enough with hybrid and pure ES helm if i go this

[kind timber]

the shield node does. you can choose not to take it.
you lose 50% evsion and armor and gain a shield that blocks elemental damage

[spring temple]

my monk has ~219 spirit i think, with a hybrid chest

[wraith fox]

ah with that one im not sure

havent done the math on that

ever

[sage tulip]

Ahh ok I miss read that thank you for clearing that up

[wraith fox]

[dusky tartan]

Helm is pure evasion? You don't use this or ?

wanted to tag @spring temple my bad Frosty

[wraith fox]

well if you dont have ES on your helm that node is kinda wasted

[abstract rock]

I have 97 sprit. My body armor is 500 es and 200 shield

[dusky tartan]

Yeah ofc. But i want to know if its worth going this path.

[spring temple]

i use Three Dragons so i never looked at the math on that node

[gray ferry]

Hey, playing a totem build here, aside from life, armour, regen, and resists, any other defensive layers I should maybe look into for skill tree? 🤔

[spring temple]

but i also really like having high ES for buffer, so i'd probably do full ES helm

[dusky tartan]

That's extremly low tbh

[sage tulip]

if you don't mind me asking would adding lightning damage to rapid fire through a support rune, would this allow me to shock and ignite the target or would I just need the support rune that adds shock chance to have both on rapid fire ?

[snow sierra]

I feel like Atziris Disdain is totaly undervalued right now it could be so insane with so many builds

[abstract rock]

I was lvl 54 when I bought it, but Ik

[wraith fox]

any elemental dmg can cause their respective ailments

[still rock]

Slows, enfeeble, space bar, thoughts and prayers

[dusky tartan]

ah ok then that's fine. then @abstract rock

[sage tulip]

sweet lightning fire rapid shot here we come.

[warped bay]

considering the cost of arsonist is gonna go up
would it be wise to stack HP instead of ES/mana ?
im thinking cause 1k hp = 40 spirit = 1.xxx arsonist,
or this wouldn't be worth?

[wraith fox]

what you need to know is that the higher the dmg, the higher the chance. and increasing ailment chance makes your roll higher

[feral flame]

ngl the caravan is probably the best town / safe hub in any video game ive played

[snow sierra]

Its fine...you i played t16 maps with reavers not even on infernalist

Minion builds have more then enough dmg to throw around

[still rock]

it gives me motion sickness

[wraith fox]

also the most efficient, TP home, identify with hood guy, salvage, then you got both merchant and stash right there

[still rock]

i had to change my hideout as soon as i unlocked a new one

[feral flame]

yeah

[warped bay]

that is true,

lastly is there a filter or POB for poe2?

[feral flame]

i get the motion sick thing but honestly its just so cool a giant carvan driven by slaves through the desert

[wraith fox]

theres a lite version of a poe2 filter yes

[feral flame]

just feels so ...dark and grimm

[still rock]

i want to liberate them

[warped bay]

would it be possible for you to send the link? or links are not allowed here

[twin cloud]

I cant make Cast on Freeze work, I have the Int req, I have 100/100 spirit available but it says "Disabled: Not enough spirit" - Base cost shows up as 60.
no support gems in there and tried to re requip already

[gray ferry]

hmm glad you mentioned slows, I guess while my totems are at work I'm free to cast things that apply jagged ground

[wraith fox]

https://github.com/NeverSinkDev/NeverSink-PoE2litefilter

[feral flame]

yet unlike most dark themed hideout / towns its not actually like gloomy and dark or filled with "red" colour everywhere , but rather out in the open sun

[warped bay]

thanks man appreciate you

[feral flame]

just aghh the thematic meanings and stuff just goes so well

[still rock]

are the gems inside the cast on X set up to weapon sets?

[wraith fox]

no worries, thanks homie

[twin cloud]

there are no gems in cast on freeze yet

[still rock]

well thats why

put a gem in it lol

[azure saffron]

does concentrated effect actually boost ignite from incinerate? i thought incinerate didn't hit

[wraith fox]

[twin cloud]

I cant 😄

[wraith fox]

why not

[feral flame]

speaking of the hooded guy , my theory is that it is sin

[sacred warren]

anybody know how to fix glitched 0/30 spirit (no gems active or even equipped)

[wraith fox]

interesting theory

[feral flame]

and seed of corruption is actually the blueprints for the beast

[twin cloud]

well its not working, not socketing in there 😄

[feral flame]

after it died in poe 1 , he just is safeguarding it so no one finds it

[wraith fox]

continue playing and it'll all reveal itself

[still rock]

nobody tell him

[quick eagle]

oh man, conc effect/abundance/unleash firestorm is neato burrito

[wraith fox]

yeah dont spoil anything for Mori

[spring temple]

unsocket and resocket the Cast on Freeze gem

[fiery sable]

is there a list of all notable passives somewhere?

[spring temple]

it gets locked if you try to activate it empty

[kind timber]

why this guy so happy

[feral flame]

also im confused where am i supposed to go

[wraith fox]

where you at

[feral flame]

i got to the gates but everything was closed

[quick eagle]

Look at his pecs. Wouldn't you be

[twin cloud]

i tried, not working

[feral flame]

then it said to go faridun place ? but i cant see it in map

[spring temple]

unsocket/resocket, then put a gem in, then activate

[still rock]

i would be too

[wraith fox]

go back to the caravan and talk to the sigma

[feral flame]

i reached halani gates

[still rock]

put a skill gem into the cast on X as if it was a support gem

[feral flame]

sigma ?

[spare quartz]

Is definitely Deckard Cain under that hood

[twin cloud]

yeah I tried, its not letting me put any in

[wraith fox]

idk how to spell sekhema properly

[fiery sable]

is there a list of all notable passives?

[snow sierra]

Chronomancer is kinda wired i have absolut no drive to go thru the hassel to get 4 asc.... i wouldnt know what to do with

[spring temple]

what are you trying to put in there? a support or an active skill?

[quick eagle]

L-I-G-M-A

[twin cloud]

Fragmentation rounds

[spring temple]

ah it's for spells only

[still rock]

thats not a spell

[spring temple]

you socket what you are casting

not what you trigger with

[twin cloud]

ahhh thank you guys

[feral flame]

oh lol

[spring temple]

it triggers off ANY freeze (besides triggered skills)

[feral flame]

everything is greyed out but im not sure what im supposed to do

[wraith fox]

check the map

[sand gull]

what's the quest log say

[feral flame]

wait nvm i saw it , my map was zoomed in lol and he next area was on the far left

[wraith fox]

is that in poe2

[tidal copper]

I love the Egyptian vipe

[quaint dagger]

how do I distinguish which values are calulated additively and which are multiplied? e.g. is the -40% evasion from "protect me from harm" basically a *0,6 multiplyer on evasion or merely -40% evasion?

[still rock]

asala is so pretty

[still rock]

How does it read

[alpine summit]

im trying to socket some support gems into sigil of power, but it doesnt let me

[quaint dagger]

40% less evasion rating https://web.poecdn.com/public/news/2024-12-04/INVOKER.jpg

[alpine summit]

anyone knows if theres a bug?

[tidal copper]

Increased adds to other modifiers
More multiplies

[tidal totem]

I want to roll a sorc as a 2nd character. I like to understand the basics of a build but then homebrew from there as opposed to following step by step.

For Arc Sorc (SSF), I basically cast Lightning Storm, Sigil of Power, Lightning Orb, and then Arc from there, right?

[quick eagle]

Increased, Reduced - Additive
More, Less - Multiplicative

[wraith fox]

holy, write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN

[quaint dagger]

how does evasion actually scale? is double evasion double the dodge chance?

[still rock]

Mob's accuracy vs your evasion

basically see it as an AC check of sorts

[quick eagle]

Game's estimated chance to evade attacks is just

Your evasion rating against enemy accuracy rating, and the stated % chance is assuming average white mob of your level

[still rock]

from d&d

[tidal copper]

Sounds good anything you want to know?

[quaint dagger]

uff, so evasion vs bosses is lower then

[serene kiln]

Hey new to Path of exile as a whole but started playing 2 as a chaos witch hoping that as the fight would go on the more afflictions i would cause but my afflictions seem to fall off to quick to build anything anyone got an affliction build? Either dm or mention me please

[proven rapids]

That is actually in Poe 2 yes

For real

[rain bone]

does CI tank my stun threshold without asceticism?

[tidal totem]

No i think for now as long as I'm solid on the basics I'll try it from here! Spark for leveling until Arc, right?

[quick eagle]

Yes, you need a lot of work to not get stunned with CI

[wraith fox]

why not both

[quick eagle]

flame wall SRS for leveling until Arc and Mana Flare(not flare, electric one)

Spark doesn't feel good until lategame

[tidal copper]

Skill effect duration might help
I think there is some in the tree

[narrow summit]

Hello 🙂
I'm a big fan of CWDT etc on poe 1 and i'm looking for something similar in poe 2
I'm more looking for something a bit tanky with good defensive layer
anyone know a fun build with cast on ?

[quick eagle]

You can get more duration on the tree, or just get more damage so you don't need the duration as much

[tidal copper]

Thorns build

[wraith fox]

cast on dodge

[tidal totem]

Got it! Okay that's actually really helpful.

[serene kiln]

I guess i was looking for a affliction build that would stack more afflictions as the fight would go on im nit having a duration issue as is im having a lack of damage

[gray ferry]

I think there's a cast on skill for when you take damage to energy shield or something

[serene kiln]

Im working on adding more choas damage through the passive tree but as a level 22 i dont have much hope for this chaos witch

[wraith fox]

im under the assumption that you need heavy investment for chaos builds to work

[quick eagle]

You don't know much about much at 22. You get much stronger with more access to items later.

If you have found an exalted orb or 2, use it to buy some gear that will scoot you through levels

[rain bone]

are there any other caveats i should be aware of with CI?

[autumn shale]

does Magnitude of Ailments you inflict increase freeze buildup? I'm under the impression it only increases freeze duration or something

[serene kiln]

Never seen it in my life but ill keep an eye out

[quick eagle]

freeze is same as stun. Get some way to mitigate it

[wraith fox]

read the in game tooltip

[unborn inlet]

Is there a way to be able to allocate skills from the start of Marauder if I'm a Witch? Let's say that I wanted to get a lot of passives for +%Armour. Looking at jewels, there's only stuff like Impossible escape, but no stuff which actually lets me connect to a remote part of the tree, like the "Gateways" on the atlas passive tree from PoE 1.

[still mountain]

patch when, askign for a friend (me) who wanna do respect lol

[gray ferry]

I think there are some unique jewels that let you allocate nodes not directly connected but come with some downsides

[autumn shale]

that's the question. "more powerful" includes better freeze buildup or more duration? it's not clear

[gray ferry]

But not quite like Scion that could go from the start location of another class

[wraith fox]

i doubt it increases buildup as thats its own thing, its probably duration then

But i actually cant see anything regarding freeze magnitude on the tree either

it might not be a stat that affects freeze?

lets ask the oracle @still rock

[alpine summit]

anyone know if theres a bug with putting support gems on sigil of power?

[royal grotto]

anyone selling a good rattling for lvl 60+

[tired citrus]

if i am using a fire spell would fire dmg, elemental dmg and spell damage result in the same damage ? Also i assume 30% fire penetration is better than 30% spell damage ? Does fire penetration go to the negative, making it useful even against enemies that arent fire resistant ?

[olive sapphire]

sorry really late, but is the shield worth it? for a tank

[wraith fox]

+% fire, spell and elemental dmg all work on fire spells

[tired citrus]

yea and do they all give the same dmg ?

i assume so right

[wraith fox]

penetration doesnt go negative, but curses like flammabily will reduce it

[tired citrus]

i know there is some like differences on wording like gain, extra, where some stuff is additive or multiplicative w/e

[wraith fox]

30% more fire dmg will do the same as 30% spell dmg in sterile conditions

if its a spell with 100% fire dmg

[tired citrus]

and elemental dmg is the exact same as fire dmg right for a fire spell too

[wraith fox]

correct

elemental is fire, cold and lightning dmg increase

[storm steppe]

Guys what is the benefit of stun, it seems like chill and freeze are just stronger versions

[wraith fox]

some characters and builds just dont freeze

so thats the benefit

you get stun

[storm steppe]

I feel like stun needs to be buffed though it’s just weaker than freeze/chill

[rain bone]

ah ok. i'm already planning on taking icebreaker either way, so that should help on that front

[wraith fox]

yeah i feel like stuns are way too short

[storm steppe]

Exactly when things like electrocute also exist

Which is mainly used on ranged builds too

So you’re effectively stunning for longer AND at range

[warped bay]

whats the -26%?

[rain bone]

exposure i think

[quick eagle]

Fire exposure

[wraith fox]

exposure

[unborn inlet]

any plans to add / not add cluster jewels in PoE 2?

[warped bay]

it lowers fire res too?

[rain bone]

can "remove X% of mana recovered from life when used" directly kill you? or will it not take your health below 1?
basically, is that prefix useless or perfect with CI?

[warped bay]

thanks again mate appreciate it

[wraith fox]

the in game tooltips explain a lot of it very well

thats what the text i sent is from, the in game tooltip

any text with dotted lines below can be hovered and read

[warped bay]

oh damn i didn't know, thanks dude!

[wraith fox]

hold alt, then click for the window to stay

top right X removes it

[warped bay]

[kind timber]

dunno i dont use it

jewels cant have attack speed?

[wraith fox]

jewels can have attack speed

[kind timber]

huh trade site not working for me then

oh nvm theres litrally just 2 attack speeds

and only one works

[wraith fox]

whack

[snow sierra]

I want spelltotem 😦

[sharp sundial]

hey guys been told cold sorc been nerfed af, is there any fire builds i could stick to? Thanks

[wraith fox]

they nerfed the cast on freeze

because it was overpowered

[sharp sundial]

yeah but now it feels very weak so...

[wraith fox]

you can still play it, it just wont be 1 freeze = 1 comet into more freeze

Well you feel weak because your build was overtuned

gotta add more freeze build up

[sage tulip]

Is there anyway to counteract the negative stat on infusions ?

Cause I want to add the lightning on raid shot but the -50% to fire damage is quite a bit of a drop off.

[alpine summit]

im selling 5 lesser jeweler orb if anyone interested

[wraith fox]

maybe currency exchange or the trade site would be interested

[sage tulip]

Also wondering if there is a way to add more rounds to a reloaded clip for rapid shot. I’m trying to turn this into a fire lightning minigun sort of build.

[weak knoll]

Hey, is there a way to check sats like damage in this game ? like i wanna see how much damage would a lvl 35 skill does ?

[wraith fox]

what happens now

[sage tulip]

That would be the dps counter on the skills page and for individual damages go to character page.

You need to have both skills panel and character page open together.

[weak knoll]

yeah but like it means i'd need to have it 35 ?

[sage tulip]

Ohh you need to have it to that level I don’t know of a way to preview things ahead of time.

[weak knoll]

i meant like how for exemple jungroan managed to have this calc of vine arrow ?

[wraith fox]

respawned and he died and i got the book lmao

[weak knoll]

cuz i'm trynna doing some shit as gemling and i wanted to check skills and how they scale

Since its gonna get nerfed gotta try to find smth else

[snow sierra]

What do you guys think of deadeye fireball ?:P

[topaz estuary]

anyone know what quality does on persistent buffs like ghost dance and combat frenzy?
tooltip doesn't say anything for them

[dusky tartan]

Ok i was scared without reason for my spirit. Now i have spare.

[azure saffron]

does "gain x% of damage as extra fire damage" contribute to the ignite damage of a hit or is it a seperate hit?

[tender pecan]

hey guys is Eagle Eyes on Deadeye worth it?

[azure saffron]

like a hit does 100 damage so now you have 108 damage, does the ignite calculate from the 100 damage or 108 damage

[azure saffron]

i understand that, what I don't understand is if the "gain x% of damage as extra fire damage" is counted with the hit or seperately

[sharp pike]

108, it adds the extra to the same hit

[wraith fox]

Adds to the initial hit, and the ignite is then calculated from that hit

100dmg + 10 more dmg from added % dmg = ignite calc dmg

[native widget]

Is the patch live yet?

[azure saffron]

so how do I compare spell dmg to extra fire damage when choosing a weapon for an ignite build?

[wraith fox]

well the ignite is based on the hit dealt

so just the one that gives you more dmg

on whatever is proccing ignite

[azure saffron]

on an ability like flameblast that does more damage per stage, does the more damage multiply extra damage or just the base damage of the spell?

[sharp pike]

There's a patch? I saw the preview, wasn't expecting a full patch for a while yet though.

[native widget]

Well, if its not gonna be out soon, it aint gonna be out for a month

[wraith fox]

probably increases the base dmg of the spell, and then that dmg gets increased by whatever extra multipliers you have

[feral flame]

need someoen with a bit of game knowledge for this but what combination do you think is better for galvanic shard : lightning infusion + chain support or LI + double barrel support ?
(between these two)

[wraith fox]

what does DB do

[sharp pike]

DB is +1 bolt, slower reload

good for shotgun builds

[wraith fox]

probably that then

[median kraken]

I think usually when they post those previews it's within a week or so. They probably want to release it before they take off for the holidays

[wraith fox]

i'd go DB

[feral flame]

posting both the support gems here

alright

[wraith fox]

but you can test them out

[sharp pike]

I dropped shotgun build fairly early on my merc so I couldn't say tbh.

[wraith fox]

chain is more AOE dmg

for the lightning

[feral flame]

i was wondering cause using chain does drop the dps but increases aoe

[wraith fox]

yeah but i think DB is fine

[feral flame]

yeah that so i wasnt fully sure what would be better

gotcha

[sharp pike]

I think when I did run shotgun I went with chain on it.

[wraith fox]

chain is really good for pack clearing, but if you dont struggle with that then you can go DB safely

[sharp pike]

But I swapped to grenades once I got gas + explosive shot

[wraith fox]

i havent played merc at all basically so i cant really give proper solid advice

just going off of gut

[sharp pike]

I'm 73 on my merc and trying to decide if I wanna keep rapid fire in my build for single target or just go all in on grenades for both sweep and bosses...

[feral flame]

might ty out chain for a bit tho i like extra bolt with double barrel but without the relaoad speed buff from passive tree it feels so slow relaoading

[feral flame]

ngl i am liking merc but i dont wanna play a grenade build

[sharp pike]

There is a base type crossbow that gives passive +1 bolt. Try chain and one of those.

[wraith fox]

what about DB and chain

[sharp pike]

I assume he's not getting lesser jewels yet

[feral flame]

i would be dropping out lightning infusion then , wont that drop the dps by a lot

[wraith fox]

without lightning infusion

[sharp pike]

And you would want lightning infusion

[wraith fox]

check your dps on the gem menu

[feral flame]

it drops down to 13

[sharp pike]

I'd say go lightning infusion + chain and get a crossbow with passive +1 bolts

[wraith fox]

from what

[feral flame]

if i take out li

[wraith fox]

thats the way probably

[sonic shuttle]

Is there a good minion build that doesntt use flame wall?

[feral flame]

with db 28 , with chain 15 , without LI , 13

[wraith fox]

What Jon "Crossbow" PoE said

[sonic shuttle]

Its too fking bright I cant look at it all the time

[feral flame]

@sharp pike can you suggest some non grenade build for merc ? since youre playing him

[sharp pike]

I'd look up the base type but trade is down

[feral flame]

my crossbow does have that passive

wait nvm

it dosent

[wraith fox]

i saw a build video where someone went explosive shot

[feral flame]

it had + level to projectile skill

[feral flame]

isnt the explosive shot build basically a grenade build ?

[sharp pike]

From about level 40 onwards I only really played grenades but I've used a fair bit of rapid fire and I theorised a build using rapid fire with fork + chain + ricochet (with ricochet passives), basically having bolts bouncing off walls and splitting so they hit entire groups and get multihit on bosses.

[feral flame]

basically you prime grenades and go destroy them with ES

[wraith fox]

its not a grenade soo...

[mellow shale]

Is it possible to use the same item in both weapon sets and only change what's in the other hand?

[sharp pike]

Grenade build can use explosive shot to force them to detonate early.

[wraith fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZQ5m7tmzNo

[sharp pike]

If you're using longer fuses from passives (not the long fuse support)

[feral flame]

yeaahh i was thinking something like that

[wraith fox]

i love this guy, very entertaining videos

[feral flame]

might look into this thanks

[wraith fox]

but hes a ranger

[wheat elk]

Want to do a Snipe + Toxic Growth build. I am currently playing a Pathfinder and ye it feels nice. But I feel both Snipe and Toxic Growth would thrive more in a non poison environment. Toxic Growth itself does not scale with poison at all outside of a critical mass to make them pop and Snipe I feel is missing a big oomph by trying to make it poison. I feel either Chayula Monk (Reality rending) or Deadeye (Frenzy for barrage snipes) would fit better. Now which one I dont know. Trying to get an idea from some other people around here c:

[feral flame]

ah rip

[sharp pike]

The 'fresh clip' support was pretty much made for rapid fire, and the build should combo well with Emergency Reload so you never need to do a manual reload. The main downside is because you're doing a lot of small hits you don't get anything from ignite, so you would want another source of ignite (probably oil grenade) then use Immolate and fire pen

My main problem with rapid shot is the slowdown while using it. You either give up a support slot for Mobility or you have to dodge roll a lot more which makes it near impossible to keep your heat up.

[feral flame]

a part of me wants to deviate to get giants blood on the tree just to dual weild crossbows lol

[tawny kindle]

Which best Storm-weaver or lightning-arrow ?

[sharp pike]

Giants Blood doesn't work on crossbows

[wraith fox]

read the tooltip of that keystone

[feral flame]

oh rip

i thought it was two handed weapons

there goes my dream of dual weilding crossbows

[sharp pike]

I'm down that part of the tree anyway on my build for triple totems

3x ripwire totems = lots of extra survival

[feral flame]

what is a good alternative build for merc , for like my 2nd weapon slot tree

[sharp pike]

Like I said, I do grenade xbow + rapid shot xbow but I'm not sold on rapid shot rn.

Shotgun build should work well, maybe lightning based and have another xbow for plasma blast

[feral flame]

yeah i waas thinking galvanic shard with fork

[wraith fox]

i wish flickerstrike was easier to use, i'd drool on that instantly

[feral flame]

would be a decent shotgun build

[half goblet]

It requires a Crit weapon base etc, my weapon and amulet alone now cost around 300-400ex <.<

[wraith fox]

guess i'll never get the flicker dream

[half goblet]

I bought my staff for 80ex, slammed 3rd socket now it’s juicy af

[wispy birch]

Saw a culler looking for a spark carry requesting 50K tooltip dps. Anyone with 50K spark tooltip DPS that can explain how you're getting there?

[wraith fox]

holy mother of god

[half goblet]

Ye my amu is +105 life 33critchance 40light and 35fire res <.< sadly no +melee

If +melee it would be crazy af

[wraith fox]

im just not going to even bother lmao

i dont play ssf, but i kinda act like i play ssf

[half goblet]

My gear is 90% self found… just the staff is bought

[wraith fox]

[rain plover]

Trade site dead?

[narrow prawn]

hey guys, is this an appropriate place to ask questions about a build im trying to cook up? tried talking in the sorc channel in #1308715058716610580 but the thread so full of users discord refused to let me post there lmao

[wraith fox]

go ahead

[near forge]

Hey does anyone know why my bell isn’t getting proced on monk? I’m using tempest flurry and it’s not letting use it

[wraith fox]

need combo

[near forge]

Right tempest flurry is a combo

[wraith fox]

you need to build up combo to use bell

[rain plover]

tf builds combo is what he's saying

[wraith fox]

tempest flurry builds combo

[near forge]

It is a combo move

[rain plover]

Are there any skill gems stuck in there that are preventing you from using it?

[wraith fox]

that could be it

[near forge]

I looked and nothing talking about combo in it

[narrow prawn]

well, first a separate question, is picking this up actually worth it for a mana stacking build? the % increased max mana is so little.. at 3000 mana its just 150 more mana, the point before it doesnt do anything for me (increased energy recharge rate) since im running MOM+EB, so thats 2 passive points

[rain plover]

If you swapped gear and like, a STR gem is still in it, it will block the skill until you have the stats or remove the gem

[wraith fox]

well its 5% more mana, and any int you get also gives mana

[near forge]

I got the proper attributes

[narrow prawn]

but this 1 notable for 2 skill points?

[atomic halo]

how is 150 more mana so little

[narrow prawn]

at 3k that doesnt seem like a great enough increase, but i guess if its my life and cast pool

[rain plover]

Do you see the number cunter go up on Bell when you build combo?

[atomic halo]

you're mana stacker why are you questioning stacking mana

[narrow prawn]

just feels bad to grab this dead node

[near forge]

I don’t that’s why I’m confused 😂 I hope it’s not a bug

[rain plover]

Try using a different combo builder and that will tell you if it's something wrong with TF or Bell

[narrow prawn]

the thing i keep mentioning, extra passive point cost that doesnt do anything for me

[rain plover]

like basic quarterstaff strike

[near forge]

One sec I will try

[wraith fox]

do you think you will reach 3k mana

[atomic halo]

okay

but is that outweighed by the power of the notable

[rain plover]

I'm not great at building but I generally try to avoid pathing to nodes if the path itself doesn't give me something I can use, might find it elsewhere

[atomic halo]

are you choosing by objectivity or just that it feels bad

[wraith fox]

@narrow prawn go this one as well

now does that 3k mana sound good?

lmao

[narrow prawn]

with eldritch battery and other mana max increases around? yea i think so in endgame

already have that

[wraith fox]

well its more dmg

[narrow prawn]

im just trying to squeeze in a few extra points on my tree at this point, looking for stuff to remove, lemme post the tree in a sec

[near forge]

Basic staff still not building it I gotta be doing something wrong here

[rain plover]

Take all your support gems out of bell and try again

[sinful elm]

Im on cruel act 1 and tryin get my sorc unbricked, I’ve tried a couple and they feel like shit.. does anyone have in mind a solid build to start clearing cruel with

[pale vine]

What's the math for Evasion ?
Is it an overall evasion * (1-0.7) ?

[rain plover]

The math is "Take as much as you can and watch projectiles fly over your head

[wraith fox]

well its your evasion rating and the likely chance for you to dodge your lvl white mobs i think

[near forge]

Nothing brother

[wraith fox]

you can use the bell without hitting enemies

gotta build up 4 combo points on it

[rain plover]

To build the combo you have to hit enemies tho

You can't just swing your staff at nothing lol

[near forge]

I know 😂😂

[wraith fox]

then whats the issue

[near forge]

I’m in the mines

[wraith fox]

i dont get how your problem exists

[near forge]

Okay

[sonic shuttle]

can I use srs somehow without flame wall

[pale vine]

bah, I'm an idiot ... I meant, what's the math for Acrobatics

[sonic shuttle]

I cant look at it

its too bright

[wraith fox]

fireball

[near forge]

I’m hitting bad guys and combo won’t build

[sonic shuttle]

Thats the best alt huh?

[wraith fox]

hitting them with what

[wraith fox]

dont know, its just an alternative

[near forge]

Basic staff and TF neither builds combos

But they should

[wraith fox]

Tempest flurry does build combo

[near forge]

I know brother

That’s the problem

[wraith fox]

you gotta hit them more

not just 1 hit

[near forge]

I’m hitting more then Chris brown dude

[wraith fox]

yo chill

xd

[rain plover]

try removing the bell gem and reslotting it

[near forge]

I did

[wraith fox]

relog

[near forge]

Bet

[copper cloud]

Guys VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION...
Can bloodmage still overflow their HP pool with a CI build?

[near forge]

Thanks for the help btw

[copper cloud]

Because bloodmage CI sounds insane if you can bypass the 1 HP downside

[rain plover]

I am curious as to what's wrong

[near forge]

Me too man. I need this damn bell

[wraith fox]

yeah idk why its not working

if what youre saying is what youre saying, there shouldnt be any problems

Are you able to get a clip of it

[rain plover]

I feel like there's a gear/stat thing happening that's blocking it somehow

there's a support that says "can not generate combo" or whatever

[wraith fox]

well he said there wasnt

[rain plover]

yeah

[wraith fox]

unless he got something that removes combo buildup

i have no clue if that even exists

[weak knoll]

Is it more worth to sell for gold or regal shard yellows ?

[rain plover]

I believe there's a support gem that blocks combo but I think it's on a single skill I can't remember

[wraith fox]

ive always disenchanted for regals

unless im on a shopping spree im fine for gold

[near forge]

I’m taking a video with tf I’ll
Show you soon

[wraith fox]

god speed

[robust echo]

is it normal that flicker deals so low dmg compared to tempest flurry?

[distant glade]

Can anyone recommend a shockwave totem guide ?

[near forge]

My X is my bell

[crisp blade]

so question, if I take Giants blood (which makes me able to handle two, two handed weapons, do I still have the bonus for two handed weapons or do I lose that?

[wraith fox]

hmm, well you werent hitting directly with the flurry a lot here, hard to say

you were mostly hitting with the lightning waves and the warp

[near forge]

I am 😭😭

[grave crane]

does a frozen enemy count as chilled

[wraith fox]

did we watch the same clip

[rain plover]

It looked like they were dying to ranged

[wraith fox]

chill is its own thing

chill is the slow, freeze is the 🧊

[near forge]

What about the first guy didn’t even build 1

[wraith fox]

you missed

lol

💀

[dusk notch]

thats weird when in demon form when I cast fireball I get kicked out of demon form

[rain plover]

@near forge can you show a vid where you use basic quarterstaff strike?

not empowered or anything

just hit something with your stick

in the face

bonk bonk style

[near forge]

It does the same thing promise

But one sec

[stark imp]

Anybody building pathfinder?

[near forge]

@wraith fox @rain plover
If you call this a miss I’m gonna lose my mind 😂😂

[wraith fox]

now do it only with tempest flurry

[rain plover]

what gems are in bell?

[near forge]

That was last video

[wraith fox]

only tempest flurry

[near forge]

Good ones nothing prevents combo

[frosty arrow]

bruh, my frost monk must really suck. I gotta change stuff. Struggled with boss in the molten vault yesterday for few hours, didn't beat it. Just had no damage, lava would kill me in the end. Same level grenadier today I roll him into the dirt halfway through the arena. Literally skipped the first phase because he took like third of his life in damage in the first opening salvo

[rain plover]

what spirit gems are you running?

[near forge]

It was uptill I had to kill the elite

[rain plover]

This person sounds like what you're saying too and nothing in the replies, I wonder if there's a bug with some interaction https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hbcttk/bell_is_not_gaining_combo/

[distant glade]

Can someone explain how turtle charm works? What other hits are there other than strike and projectiles? Like aoe?

[tropic talon]

Anyone have a link for all ascendancy node and smal node?

[wraith fox]

from all hits

[rain plover]

It means you don't have to raise your shield

[hollow perch]

Does anyone know how weaon swap skillpoints ork for dmage and modiefiers like minion health? Is everything snapshotted at cast?

[distant glade]

Hits is everything but dots? So I can block aoe slams?

[uncut burrow]

does contagion count as poison?

[rain plover]

anything that hits yeah

[wraith fox]

does it say poison on the tab

[hollow perch]

and other skills specified as unblockable

[alpine pecan]

no contagion is chaos but it can spread poisons

[rain plover]

unblockable means unblockable

[distant glade]

I see thanks

[hollow perch]

which is a bit of a crapshoot

[hollow perch]

yeah sry for being obvious I just mean that there are a bunch of suprises out there

[rain plover]

I believe that node just makes it so that you gain the same effect as having your shield up all the time even without raising it

[hollow perch]

the boss in trial for instance you cannot block the aoe magicslam even if h doesnt hit you

[rain plover]

so whatever you block with your shield, you block automatically

[icy kiln]

Why tf is it so hard to find flat mana leech. Trying to find a way for MoM Chayula Monk work, do we just have to get mana leech on weapons?

[uncut burrow]

it says its a debuff unlike the actual poison skills but idk man im just praying its poison

[hollow perch]

you can get it on rings and amulets aswell

[wraith fox]

shock is also a debuff, but isnt poison

contagion is not a poison

[pale vine]

contagion is a non-ailment DoT

[wraith fox]

chaos dot

[pale vine]

that does Chaos damage

[wraith fox]

no poison

however

ah maybe poison doesnt show there

[pale vine]

Yep, Poison is different ... generally 20% of the total pre-mitigation Physical + Chaos damage of whatever attack is applying the poison

[near forge]

Thanks dude I’ll just get rid of the bell

[pale vine]

20% per sec, that is

and affected by Poison Magnitude and Ailment Magnitude

[wraith fox]

needs to say poison in the tab