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willow ether
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double the support gems seems insane

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is greands the way

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?

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i barely use em tbh

hollow patrol
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What is currently the strongest possible minmaxxed damage sorceress build?

frosty arrow
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you can delete entire groups with 2 button presses with grenadier no problem. And boss damage is very solid, and safe to put out

hollow patrol
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I see, not sure how to build that

steady berry
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Get a lot of mana and mana regen

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Use archmage and spark

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Do lots of damage

hollow patrol
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Just wanting to try and do the most AOE and Boss damage as i possibly can, enjoy trying to figure out how to minmax the most possible xD

gray ferry
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So Avatar of Fire converts 75% dmg to fire..is there a way to get that last 25% on a skill that doesn't normally have conversion?

plush tundra
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My new crossbow is going to be a decent upgrade once i put iron rune's in it. Should I do a vaal orb or no?

willow ether
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damn so i need to get all my grenande skills up

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but why did u pick witch hunter what inticed u

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i rlly like the double gems on everything

frosty arrow
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you don't necessarily need all of them. Basic frag and explosive shot will be your bread and butter. I also use gas for armor break, and extra booms. And flash as utility

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that's pretty much the easiest grenadier build, super easy to use. 2 buttons 90% of the time

willow ether
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insane

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so cool how u can do different builds

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this game fs needs presents of skills

rare pewter
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is it possible to take a node in two different weapon sets while taking different paths there?

timid cloud
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guys i have this on, so does this mean if I put immolate support on my main skill gem attack which is ice strike, it will gain 30% damage as extra fire?

steady berry
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That helm is really strong tbh

hybrid ocean
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Seems like it'd fall off a cliff after a while though, unless it's just there to proc those ignite synergies

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20 dps isn't anything to write home about

rustic ravine
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Useing a ice and lighting monk build got this new staff wanted to see if it would be a good idea to get this fire rune on it with this node

steady berry
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30% of damage as extra fire damage is probably better than most support gems for a lot of skills rn

timid cloud
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yea it's good but immolate doesn't work on my ice strike somehow. i put the immolate on and off and hit g when I attack to see if my damage change any but it doesn't

hybrid ocean
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Is it better than a support gem + a helmet is the question though

steady berry
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Maybe it's not coded as a "real" ignite

hybrid ocean
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Here's a silly notion

timid cloud
rustic ravine
steady berry
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Yeah

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The way it's worded seems like it should work, so if it doesn't I'd consider that a bug

rustic ravine
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Ahh I see thanks 🙏🏻

hybrid ocean
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Are there any projectile spells that benefit disproportionately from levels? I'm thinking of trying to cook up a widowhail + projectile skill level on quiver build with gemling, and then using that to benefit a spell

steady berry
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There are a couple more instances of fake ailments not working properly, like stormweaver's double shock

timid cloud
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but the helmet literally says make enemies around you ignited

hybrid ocean
steady berry
timid cloud
rare pewter
hollow patrol
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What is currently the strongest possible minmaxxed damage sorceress build?

soft lake
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Has anyone had any luck with bleed Blood Mage yet? It seems like getting 100% bleed chance is next to impossible outside of using jewels

rustic ravine
thin narwhal
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Hey lads, is there a way to convert life regen to mana regen?

lyric heart
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Should I start trading at level 17 already

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Feels like Im very underpowered here

soft lake
timid cloud
rare pewter
rare pewter
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idk tho

hollow patrol
steady berry
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You probably don't need or want 100% bleed chance as blood mage

timid cloud
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should i report?

soft lake
rare pewter
hollow patrol
timid cloud
rare pewter
timid cloud
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ok ty

soft lake
rare pewter
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np

steady berry
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Also tbh the physical spells for blood mage literally arent in the game yet so thats funny

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What do ppl even use

rustic ravine
thin narwhal
timid cloud
rustic ravine
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I wonder if that helmet with 2 dresser rune and that node would be sufficient for the 30 percent elemental boost

soft lake
slender fern
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guys its says +34 spirit and its only giving me 6

soft lake
slender fern
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fuk I cannot gain spirit from armor

timid cloud
steady berry
soft lake
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It seems like jewels is the only realistic way

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There's only 30% bleed chance in the witch area of the tree

timid cloud
soft lake
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And then a small amount of %increased chance to apply ailments, which is a multiplier for bleed chance

vagrant plinth
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why doesnt barrage work with freezing salvo? doesnt increase the amount of projectiles at all

soft lake
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And the bleed chance support gem obviously only works for one skill

timid cloud
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on my warrior tho it was good tho i had bleed chance as well on my stamped and also i have all the nodes that gives bleed chance, like 90% of the time all the enemies were bleeding

soft lake
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Yeah, there's some support for bleed chance in the warrior area of the tree, but that's pretty difficult to path to for a spell witch

steady berry
timid cloud
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oh you wanna do that with witch gotcha

soft lake
steady berry
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And blood mage has crit support if you ever get to 8 ascendancy points

soft lake
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I also don't know how I feel about that, because taking Blood Barbs + the crit stuff means you have no points for leech and/or Grasping Wounds

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I really want to make bleed Blood Mage work but it feels so difficult

tepid wharf
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how do people balance mana? My max skill gem would probably be lvl 30 and cost like 250+ mana a pop. If I wasn't a Pathfinder idk how the hell I'd have enough mana to sustain that.

rough kelp
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can you corrupt a physical weapon and get skill for another element?

gray ferry
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So if you're playing around ignite, big chunky hits are the way to go right? I'm trying to play around with mace totems and ignite and wondering how to make the most of it

soft lake
steady berry
gray ferry
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I'll have hammer of the gods on a weapon swap for bigger enemies

hexed saffron
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Man I dismantled my build to try something and now it's shit
Can someone (ranger) help me out putting it back together?;

gray ferry
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was trying molten blast at first for other mobs and it feels so-so

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doesn't really ignite

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sunder is doing a little better

steady berry
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Nothing will unfortunately

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You can have 100% + 100% more and do 75% of a white mobs hp and not ignite

gray ferry
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jeez wth

steady berry
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Its really frustrating lol

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Ignite is for single target dps atm, not clearing

somber pendant
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Anyone know if blackflame applies chaos damage to ignites from minions?

gray ferry
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what's the point of having things like ignite prolif supports in the game then :(

gray ferry
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bummer

hybrid ocean
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Anyone know if two copies of Thief's Torment ring will disable each other?

steady berry
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Yeah i tried an ignite explosive shot build and it was terrible lol

hybrid ocean
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Seems relatively safe to assume, but confirmation would be nice

visual warren
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wheres a good place to farm xp before act 2?

soft lake
somber pendant
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man ive asked everywhere, cant seem to get an answer to my question

soft lake
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That said, I'm not convinced ignite prolif is necessary in POE2 at all

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Even if you can consistently ignite

gray ferry
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I see

visual warren
pearl sluice
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Anyone got a build that isn't 1) a lightshow and 2) corrupting cry

gray ferry
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I wanted to play around Infernalist's Bringer of Flame, which lets all damage contribute to ignite

somber pendant
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seperate entities, okay 😦 sad

visual warren
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i would test it tho

soft lake
somber pendant
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what would be a good way to do that?

soft lake
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Minions don't wear your items

visual warren
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^^

somber pendant
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if only black flame was an amulet

soft lake
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(Unless you're using Necromantic Talisman, in which case they will wear your amulet instead of you)

steady berry
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Get an igniting minion and compare the ignite damage with and without the -chaos res curse

somber pendant
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thanks, ill try still just to be sure

steady berry
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But yeah it will almost certainly not work

vestal herald
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Is there such thing as monk using fire ele?

soft lake
somber pendant
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trying to do some chaos shennanigans cuz the node at the top left, right have of darkness

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right hand*

soft lake
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Well that would synergise with Summon Raging Spirits, no?

somber pendant
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and im wearing the corpse fart boots ;P

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how so? loobkoob?

steady berry
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Also a minion's ignite would deal like 3 dmg wouldnt it?

soft lake
steady berry
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Your flame wall will overwrite it anyway lol

soft lake
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Yeah, an enemy will only have the strongest ignite on them do damage

steady berry
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Which tbh actually does make it synergize

somber pendant
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yeah they do get max stacks of wither pretty quick with raging spirits

steady berry
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If you care about flame wall doing 20% more damage

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But you could just run flammability instead...

somber pendant
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the main thing i was going to get to ignite was the explosion of the gas cloud from decompose boots

steady berry
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Can that explode?

somber pendant
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yeah

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ignites for 27-40 ignite damage with no real investment at level 12 decompose

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cant use the higher level ones yet or the game crashes xD

steady berry
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Jesus lol

somber pendant
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suppose that would count as my ignite for blackflame 🤔 i was thinking because the minions are igniting the cloud it would be them

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but the cloud comes from my spell skill decompose

soft lake
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It's not a strong enough ignite to be worth it

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27-40 base ignite damage is so low

somber pendant
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thats level 12 decompose it goes up to 18 on the item and + spell skills + chaos skills count towards level

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and i have nothing in the tree for ignite magnitude or anything like that

last patio
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best support gems for temporal rift?

west pumice
soft lake
static plinth
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Decompose's poison scales like crazy but the explosion is snzzz

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(Cuz the poison is based on mob HP)

somber pendant
soft lake
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Yeah, but Flame Wall barely clears

somber pendant
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they get poisoned too, then ignited, with the ignite dealing chaos damage from black flame ring and max wither stacks i think it adds up to be worth it

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wither +50% chaos damage taken

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plus wither effect im getting from jewels and the tree

soft lake
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I mean, I guess if you're scaling %chaos damage on the tree then maybe? But I don't think it'll do that much for you without ignite magnitude scaling

somber pendant
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havent been treating it as like my main form of damage yet or anything, might try it at higher level decompose

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just some additional

static plinth
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If you scale the poison some, apparently Corpsewade just clears maps via walking

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Cuz you eventually get it to 100% of enemy HP per poison with multiple stacks of poison

somber pendant
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yeah i saw the video, they do still get poisoned before the cloud gets ignited

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but it doesnt spread out to all enemies everytime

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too much arsonists spamming firecrackers for that xD

errant veldt
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Is there a way to respec the permanent quest buffs? I avoided the chaos resist one when I was running CI and now I’d like to take it

vivid ferry
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On poe trade, can I filter from a set list of mods?

For example, I want:
fire, lightning, cold, chaos res
all ele res
strength, dex

Obviously I can't have all of those on 1 item. But how do I filter it to only pull from that list?

green elm
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when i use this unique it says your critical damage bonus is 300% but when i go to my skill it only says 200% am i doing something wrong?

lyric marsh
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a bit confusing at times tho

green elm
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ohhh i see, so it is 300% but that stat is just whats being added onto it

errant veldt
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It seems to emphasize bonus

green elm
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thank you!

lyric marsh
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guys, anyone knows if recoup keeps working at full life or do we lose it?

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like, you get chunked, you use flask and that flask stops at full life, but do you maintain recoup if hit again?

modest tulip
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COMBAT FRENZY NOT WORKNG??

i seem to have messed up my munk build combat frenzy no longer creates charges? i still have node on passive skill tree but nothing seems to get it back to working is there anything that you can think of that negates the effect?

eternal raptor
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can anyone explain to me what the best spark supports are?
i know in poe 1 you want as much proj speed and duration as possible so they can hit multiple times
but do i need it in poe2 since max pierce is 1 and only alternatives would be fork or +1 chain from tree (if chain works at all)
proj speed is a take i guess but what about the other 4?

last patio
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I don't understand why you would use this gem on tempest bell?

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the only limit in the skill description is the number of bells, but this doesnt help at all

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the build I'm seeing is using 2 rage related support gems, glaciation, and this

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but it seems worthless

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does this only apply to 1 of the 3 strikes for ice strike? doesn't specifiy much

timid cloud
modest tulip
timid cloud
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yes, do you have enough freeze build up?

modest tulip
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i freeze things super quick

timid cloud
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so that's weird

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it should work then

modest tulip
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my thoughts exactly i have been using it for ages i made a few changes now it no longer works

naive tiger
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Does 1hp count as full and low HP at same time?

timid cloud
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maybe your combat frenzy gem is off

naive tiger
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I am using the max is 1hp passive

timid cloud
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you messed up something somewhere

modest tulip
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do any of this clash?

timid cloud
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nah, i have all of them on

modest tulip
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does placement matter?

neon kindle
last patio
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it doesn't make 2 bells

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i'm not able to

neon kindle
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It lets you drop a second bell after 4 more combo

remote bridge
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Any idea why Cast on Freeze works with a lvl 12 Comet gem but not a lvl 13 comet gem? I have 60 spirit exactly. CoF costs 60 spirit? There doesn't seem to be any spirit cost associated with comet that I can see. Error reads "Not enough spirit" with lvl 13 gem but no error with lvl 12 gem.

last patio
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oh after 4!

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wow

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gonna have to test this lol

neon kindle
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Hitting the boss and both bells is chefs kiss

last patio
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do you use the rage support gems?

neon kindle
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No

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But, they might be good; I just haven’t

last patio
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i've seen 2 builds running them, raxx and someone else

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got me curious

neon kindle
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Monk isn’t my main, so my knowledge ends here, haha.

sharp elm
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what classes best utilize this ?

eternal raptor
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its less about the class but the build
ill use it with sporc

neon kindle
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MoM?

sharp elm
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ahh gotcha, what builds then ?

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what is MoM

eternal raptor
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some kind of MoM build idk if its usefull for melee as well

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mind over matter

last patio
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odd, the 2nd bell isn't working

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it completely replaces the other one

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and I have a lot of attack speed so that shouldn't be a problem

pulsar violet
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i want to be a tank mage with chronomancer, but does sorceress get access to items that support that kind of class fantasy?

lament elk
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does lightning% catalyst work with lightning resistance?

eternal raptor
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all classes can wear all items you just need the stats for it

pulsar violet
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mhm

last patio
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I made a monk with chronomancer ascendencies

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so yep lol

eternal raptor
last patio
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it's a chronomonk :D

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it's working REALLY well

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i'm able to keep 50% increased damage from having my life at full easily with temporal rift, I have a lot of evasion and ES, any time I take a hit temporal rift is off cd so I basically have permanent energy shield lol

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just wish I didn't have to wait like 10 more levels for 3rd trial T_T. I'll have 83% life recoup over 3.5s

storm willow
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i just got my first support gem lvl 2, should i use splinter, aftershock or devastate on sunder? im using warrior

minor sleet
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As a ranger, what mods should I be looking for in gloves? Right now I'm primarily looking for attack speed, res and evasion. Is that right?

stiff smelt
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do aoe boosting support gems make tempest bell shockwaves bigger?

peak dawn
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Is it possible to give Warcry to allies? I can't seem to find a way

sage tulip
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Hi I was wondering if Incan bounce some ideas of you guys of what support gems to use. I and doing an internalist witch build with fireball as the focus. I have unleashed, scattershot, wildcards, and thinking of fork as well not sure. Though the issue is that all these suppers decrease the damage so I was wondering what would be the best support to offset the damage decrease to try and boost the damage back up again.

vivid ferry
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is "added # of fire damage" a good mod? I have avatar of fire on my skill tree

violet geyser
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If you already have elemental dmg% on staff and no physical damage increase. Is it better to go elemental or physical runes

lapis estuary
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There is a skill tree node called "Cull the Hordes" It's description reads "25% increased Culling Strike threshold"

Is this additive or multiplicative? Does the threshold for bosses(Uniques) go from 5% to 30%? or 5% to 6.25%?

frosty arrow
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I think it's multiplicative, being reasonable. Otherwise combined with decimating strikes in witch hunter tree you'd be instakilling almost anything with any instance of damage

unique gyro
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What's the best class rn

storm smelt
lapis estuary
sage tulip
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I’m not joking about the questions lol there are currently 3 really good builds each one around casting a spell, or shooting crossbows, or smacking things with a hammer.

unique gyro
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Like burst dps

timid cloud
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so i have found another bug with gem supports as i was testing immolate . close combat support doesn't work. check your dps with and without it as you damage enemies. it doesn't make any difference

unique gyro
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I saw someone shoot a nuke with a crossbow

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Or bow

sage tulip
sharp cradle
unique gyro
brisk hemlock
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What stat helps you from being "Spell interrupted"?

violet geyser
sage tulip
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The witch infernalist build goes off making the fireball constantly split endlessly so section of the map is literally endless fireballs and it melts.

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Though a lot of the supports decrease the fireballs damage but it makes up for it by the shear number of them that are bouncing around all over the area you are in. You will anywhere between 100-1000 of little fireballs everywhere.

sage tulip
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Add in skeletal arsonists throwing grenades and you will see a sea of explosions and fire

brazen ingot
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can this be beneficial for my freeze and electrecture monk build ?

sage tulip
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For witch you can use a staff (2handed), wand and scepter or wand and shield or scepter and shield. I prefer scepter and shield.

storm willow
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is splinter, or any other support gem lvl 2 that break armor good for sunder from warrior?

slim cobalt
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Can someone help me understand how scaling works with conversion and increased elemental damage with attacks?

I understand how boosting physical damage prior to conversion with a skill like incendiary shot works, the higher the phys, the more it does prior to the conversion

What I don't understand is how increased elemental damage with attacks works. Is it worse because it only acts on the 80% rather than the full 100%? In other words, it goes physical damage increase -> conversion -> elemental damage increase?

unique gyro
sage tulip
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This allows me to aura an ability for free, large amount of spirit, defend, and still free up a gem slot since the scepter has the aura I want anyways and not waste a gem slot for a useless attack.

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Yeah that’s probably the same build I’m doing. Fire everywhere and minions to support the sea of fire and hold off enemies as a buffer between me and them. The down fall of witches is being squishy

silk juniper
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my bloodmage is lowkey tanky af

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leech is really nice against all the insane dots

mint glacier
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For mercenary using grenades, what ascendancy is recommended?

sturdy raven
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any guide on distilling amulets and what combinations give what

primal oasis
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why do people run conduction (increased chance to shock) on herald of thunder, if herald cant shock

silk juniper
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you can hold control over any notable passive and it will tell you

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what combination you need

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just find the best one for your build at the moment

blissful dagger
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Soo you can get a support gem that gives 100% chance to shock

river hamlet
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Hi team. I have been playing ice monk and enjoying it. Recently some friends have finished cruel and we are doing maps but I find that my monk is designed to fly fast and 1 shot everything so group play is not as fun as we would like.

I would like to design a build for my monk that basically instantly freezes everything on screen (even off screen) and is very tanks, but does little damage. I hope it will keep them safe by freezing everything and then allow them to do the killing.

How would you go about this?

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TLDR:
group play
Low damage so friends can kill
Insta freeze everything for safety
Invoker monk

How would you do it?

frosty arrow
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I would do it by playing frost sorc

primal oasis
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interesting

golden python
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Is this good for spirit raging build? With the arcanist and spirits minions?

gritty marten
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Question. Does "+x to all cold spells" stack? Let's say i have +4 from my weapon, will the one from my necklase work?

stray palm
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Hello there
I am playing witchhunter
I am wondering if adding for example lightning damage in skill tree and using herald of lightning will add that lightning damage to a fire skill ?
The thing i want is
1 skill dealing different elemental damage types
Lightning fire and cold
I want to know if i can achieve that through herald skills and skill tree nodes only ?
No gear specific

velvet blade
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How do abilities with a cooldown work with trigger gems like cast on critical?
Do they just not cast if they're still on cooldown?

silk juniper
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you can achieve that through one pair of gloves, you can do it with heralds and skill tree but they are very conditional

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and in a boss fight you would most likely only be doing one type, or mostly one

left aurora
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if i use ghostwrithe + eldritch battery, does my life become mana?

tepid crow
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Hi! So I'm building freeze sorc, and recently I decided to go towards critical focus. In POE1 I think critical hits always freeze, does it work the same for POE2?

tepid crow
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ok I thought I can reduce freeze buildup nodes but in that case I still need them

wide shadow
silk juniper
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well if you crit you do a lot of dmg which is a lot of freeze build up

tepid crow
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true

silk juniper
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you can balance freeze build up nodes and crit dmg bonus nodes

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for maximum efficiency

tepid crow
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yeah makes sense

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thanks

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either way my build started to work really nicely after going elemental storm and crits route

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so I'm really excited to make this even better

last patio
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why is it that I'm finding gear that's higher level that's got amazing rolls, yet there is gear that's lower levels on the market with 10x higher stats?

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and they don't have 20% quality or anything

silk juniper
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the ilvl of an item just increases the pool of mods it can have

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doesnt make it better

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just makes the high celling better

last patio
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oooh I was focusing on the lvl requirement

azure vector
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I have 3 sockets open, which resistances should I put? If I want to cap chaos I'd need to use 2 ScuffThink

last patio
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Really wish I was better at judging whether gear is good or not. Idk why people are only charging 1 exalt when I've never seen gear as good drop in my game

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exalts pop up like once every 10 mins, by comparison this gear is super rare

azure vector
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What's the all res one called?

silk juniper
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it is a soulcore

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might be a bit expensive

wet mango
silk juniper
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dont know the exact price

wet mango
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the ilvl matters more than the req level (which is a consequence of the mods/base)

last patio
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can you quickly sort thru what's valuable or not based on ilvl relative to required level alone?

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like as a quick way to weed out what you know won't have good rolls

sharp vortex
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How to get good wand? Legit not seeing any in market for my level... even looking for like max of 6ex any ideas of what i should do lv50 rn

hollow hare
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Craft

undone oar
midnight bolt
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is there any confirmation on how armor works in poe2, is the formula changed compared to poe1? thr values of our armor is definetly way lower

hollow hare
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Also does anyone know if blaspemy is affected by magnified effect support gem? (+40% aoe)

silk juniper
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same function

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higher hits require higher armour

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values may be different

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but the core system is the same

midnight bolt
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ye im asking abt exact values

last patio
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but yeah you're right, a lot of people leave you dry, and double the price, it's annoying af

undone oar
last patio
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starting to see why the +1% to crit chance node is so nice. it barely budges now lol

sharp vortex
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Reeee

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Fk crafting, i hate poe2 craftin

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Its all rng

last patio
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I'm so happy with this chronomancer monk I made, temporal rift goes so well with monk, it's so cool I can't see myself rolling another class lol

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everything else feels so old school and boring by comparison

willow ether
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what’s the better mercenary ascended

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i feel like i messed up with the gems

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guy

velvet summit
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how does this make sense

latent coral
sharp vortex
pallid wyvern
distant dome
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100% faster start of energy shield* means energy shield delay drops from 4 seconds to 2 seconds right?

frosty arrow
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I'm pretty sure there's special nodes for reducing delay

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recharge rate just means how fast it goes once it started charging

distant dome
honest storm
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Is chayula poison arrow something anyone has tried?

graceful epoch
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Hello all i just wanted to ask do all classes just stack str for HP and then put on the Heavy Armor for Hardcore builds if you not a Sorc and need the INT for the DPS?

frosty arrow
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what do you mean int for dps? Attributes don't increase damage of anything in PoE2 by default

graceful epoch
sharp vortex
frosty arrow
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I don't really understand the questions

sharp vortex
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Just modifers that boost it

frosty arrow
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you pick attributes as you need them. For gear, support gems, etc

graceful epoch
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Do all classes stack STR for HP then Armor for protection or is Evation and Shield equal good?

eternal marlin
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hi, what does this mean? phys flow as flat ele roll? it's from ben gas arrow build

frosty arrow
#

no, not all classes just stack str. Besides, you can stack strength and not wear heavy armor, which is better for most classes

#

as you have no easy access for armor nodes on the tree

frosty arrow
#

you can have lots of health AND energy shield, or evasion

#

nothing stops you

sharp vortex
#

Sorc build im looking at sites not stack str

#

They just go full int

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And go full magic shield

frosty arrow
#

that's one of the ways to do it, sure

sharp vortex
#

😡i can't find a decent wand to save me though

graceful epoch
#

i found that HP is the most useful attribute that's why i ask

frosty arrow
#

what defenses you build will largely be dictated by what you can realistically take in the passives tree. You won't get far just on base stats of items

sharp vortex
#

Meh

lethal valley
#

do most builds want max life or life regen?

hollow hare
#

Force of Will synergizes with Eldritch Battery yes? or no DivineOrbSad

last patio
#

I need good synergies with temporal rift

livid hamlet
#

So speaking of defenses, how can a Life Stacking Witch get some ?

#

like should i path to armor nodes and go for armor ?

#

What would the life amount need to be for me to feel comfortable just living on my own ? Lets assume that i'm almost always full if not CC'd since my build possibly will be

dreamy crest
#

hey folks how do i get martial tempo on minions? Can't seem to find it in the support gem section

undone dock
#

bottom left*

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of the gem section of course

#

go there press it and search using the search bar at the bottom

unreal rampart
#

I was wondering, are pure physical builds just not that good at the moment? I'm specifically looking into Monk, Merc or Ranger, and I've fiddled with the physical tools these classes and the weapons they use, but so far it felt very underwhelming

wild frigate
#

Is the max +melee skill on wep 6?

ivory prism
steel tundra
#

its 7 I believe

undone dock
#

has PoB make a version for poe2

steel tundra
#

not yet, thats something that'll probably take a while.

timid cloud
#

guys i found a bug with close combat support. it doesn't work, like i did test with have it on and off and as I was damaging enemies my dps didn't change it was the same number

digital axle
timid cloud
#

yea, immolate support also doesn't work i tested it

pallid yacht
#

does minion instability have a chance to crit? I'm guessing it has a base 0% crit like poe1 but i just wanted to confirm

crude zealot
#

If I put lockdown support on a minion ('supported skills have 120% more pin buildup against enemies within 2 metres of you, scaling to no chance at 12 metres'), is the distance of 2 metres actually calculated from me or from the minion inflicting the pin?

versed wren
#

Cultist bows, what did they think when they didn't allow us to put on chaos % on it / Chaos runes?
Best choice is like Flat phy + % phy for poison build but then you're better off with flat phy bow with 20% phy runes.

Is it just not developted yet or just missed xD

craggy hearth
#

Heyo gang, what class is the current best map clearer t15? Have 100 ex budget , playing warrior but as you know the clearing speed is slow with whatever warr build you play( totem, shout, titan armour explo etc etc )

last patio
#

is there a way for alt information to always be shown? I looked but couldn't find a setting for it

tidal copper
wild nimbus
#

did they nerf the 4 socket then upgrading trick ?

#

used 18 vals still no 4 socket...

tidal copper
#

Bless luck RIP 18 jeweller's

static spade
#

Is there an infernal here?

last patio
#

i'm guessing the cruel difficulty venom draught you want is extra chaos resist? Is it really difficult to build that in end game?

#

I still haven't used the draught from regular difficulty. Don't wanna fuck up lol

tidal copper
frosty arrow
#

that's how you end up beating the game with inventory full of crap you could've used, but saved for...something?

#

just use the damn thing, it's not such a big deal

last patio
#

it's a permanent choice

lament holly
last patio
#

i'd rather wait and see which is most relevant to end game

static spade
#

I wanna ask if these 3 passives can sync well.

lament holly
last patio
lament holly
#

oh is it in 3? I swore it was in act 1 lol. Guess I'm still getting up to it. I picked the faster mana regen in act 3 non cruel, as it's more required for the MOM build I'm running

static spade
frosty arrow
#

it's honestly not that important

sharp vortex
#

Thoughts on this for spark build?

stable lake
#

Is there any way to lower/convert lightning dot dmg in this game? I want to play with Doryanis Prototype but cant figure out how to negate the lightning dot which 1 shots me

sharp vortex
#

Is 5 ex too much?

mellow yoke
#

Best warrior build? Playing titan boneshatter atm and it clears my whole screen but my weapon is also very good for my level currently do idk how itll play later when I start mapping

normal pumice
lunar rivet
#

do you guys know anyone successfully running an Infernal Flame witch build?

#

( i need options if my build gets bricked like my last one)

warped kayak
#

hey there, are the poison ranges here? I'd like to know how you handle with survivability on late levels?

#

im playing around some ka-boom build (corruption+explosion), looks flawesly but... i don't know how to suvive here. im 65 lvl and around completing cruel act 3, and faced that i can't complete chaos challenge solo - bosses just oneshoting me whetever i do. I've already took acrobatics skill and raised my evasion to 45% (not much i know)

tidal copper
warped kayak
rancid thicket
#

Dropped a Doryani's Prototype. Decided to go all in to make it work with Storm Mages. Little did I know, storm mages suck ass.

I'm unaware of any lightning convert gear for Minions, does anyone know of any?

old kayak
#

I have a question about Affix and Suffix. I've heard everywhere that you can have three of both types. So 6 totals + Implicit. But I have gear with more than that!
Also, is there a list of stats somewhere that can be Suffix or Affix ?

rancid thicket
old kayak
rancid thicket
old kayak
rancid thicket
old kayak
#

Thanks

maiden kernel
#

What does the minus resistance mean? Can someone help
Me

obsidian grove
#

Light radius doesn’t count as a modifier on equipment I believe

obsidian grove
#

It means you will take extra damage from that damage type

#

Rings and runes are the easiest way to get some resistances rolling. Sitting at -40% is going to make maps hell

eternal marlin
#

hi, would this be good on gas arrow build?

compact stream
#

what is the maximum accuracy for a crossbow merc? is it a good idea to get 500+ accuracy from items?

obsidian grove
distant canopy
#

if you have eldritch battery is 0/0 energy shield considered "full"?

eternal marlin
#

ig ill just use other chest then, tyty

lilac hinge
#

What are some builds that synergies good with Lightning Deadeye?

tropic river
#

I'd assume not but does "skill effect duration" ever affect ailment duration?

silver anvil
#

voltaic grenades good for anything? I notice all the top damaging stuff in poe2 wants you to combo your skills but i can't see anything for voltaic grenades

#

i want to use them though, i like their low fuse time

simple lily
#

Can anyone explain how swift affliction increases the damage of herald of ash? It says 35% more non-ailment damage, but ignite is ailment damage no?

rancid thicket
distant dome
#

Unleash + eye of winter = instant 10 stack of critical weakness single target. Though I often press the button twice to make up for imperfect aim.

Ring that gives chain + chain support and now the entire pack has it stacked.

Since you said critical weakness is effectively added to base crit, that means my stat sheet 60% bonestorm is already at 100% Crit :D

I’m mostly typing this because it’s hard to search “does critical weakness” apply before or after increased critical strike chance.

rancid thicket
#

It doesn't affect Herald of Ash (Afaik)

simple lily
rancid thicket
sudden crown
#

Anyone here playing merc grenade build and have tips on how to scale it

feral halo
#

Looking for big brain that has knowledge on endgame titan to help me fix my build, I am currently lvl 84. Will pay exalted orbs for your time!

spring atlas
#

highest ive gotten my DPS. Is this around ballpark for my lvl?

unique sparrow
#

which one is better for my fire build

fiery horizon
#

how worth will it be to upgrade my current 280dps bow to a 350dps bow damage wise ?

calm orchid
#

Is this actually good

#

Looks very interesting

loud robin
#

i am playing as witchhunter and kind of soft stuck against a boss in act2 cruel right now. i use against bosses HVR with doppelbarell, fresh clip and scattershot atm, but need to improve my damage output, want to stick to this build as long as possible. i run out of flasks before i can get him. Would bleeding get my changes for bossing better? mobing isnt the problem right now.

candid venture
#

Galvanic shards fires lightening bolts right ? I equipped herald of thunder but my bolts isn't triggering any lightening effects, so that means enemies needs to be in a shocked state first for herald to work ?

#

Can anyone explain ?

hushed viper
#

If I have converted 100% of my lightning damage to cold, will the extra lightning damage in this wand still count to the conversion?

candid venture
agile dune
#

(yes, they need to have the shock ailment)

candid venture
#

No wonder my bolts wasnt doing any lightining damage, I equipped herald before galvanic shards UHM

fiery horizon
unique sparrow
fiery horizon
unique sparrow
stuck vault
#

does anyone know if there is a way to get Endurnace Cahrges (without Convert Node) on monk?

void pewter
#

its added at the same time as conversion, so you get 123% cold and 20% light

willow ginkgo
#

Is Flickerstrike chain affected by + range?

fiery horizon
# unique sparrow send a screenshot

i am playing la my phys dps gets converted to lightning damage so atm with a 280phys bow my lightning dps is 5.7k but with a 350phys bow how much of a dps gain will that be in total

nimble fiber
#

When i socket Snipers Mark into Hand of Chayula would it make sense to also link Profusion or wouldnt that do anything?

cedar river
#

Armour + Evasion or pure Evasion for Deadeye?

fiery horizon
#

you would need like 100+ str for the gear i think

hushed umbra
#

Giant's blood, 2handed + shield uses 1handed passives, dual wielding uses 2handed passives?

mellow escarp
#

Are there any mega tanky nodes that I can respec into temporarily near the int start or to the left? This chaos trial is kicking my ass 😭

cedar river
slender fern
#

act3 first one

hollow perch
#

Is there a notable or nodes on the passive tree that lower the movespeed penalty while attacking? I remember seeing something but I cant find it again

normal pumice
#

I heard there's Rhoa mount for Ranger

obsidian grove
sterile stone
sterile stone
#

unless theres also notable

hollow perch
old oriole
#

is it bad idea to combine my mana and enrgy shield+ i take damage from mana first + my skills are heavy mana consuming?

sacred sparrow
#

Do multiple flame walls add more damage to projectiles?

sterile stone
sacred sparrow
#

I.e two casts of flame wall, projectile go through both, profit?

sterile stone
old oriole
old oriole
sterile stone
#

inspiration and dont stack too many + levels, more regen, lifetap, there are multiple ways depend on which you can use

feral halo
#

can someone help me transition into another build? will give exalts I will share screen in discord

sterile stone
#

and theres always mana flask if you kill fast enough while mapping

mellow escarp
sterile stone
#

might wanna specify from to what

hushed viper
feral halo
#

can someone help me transition into another build? will give exalts I will share screen in discord, just need some help to figure out what passives to change into I have a link to the new build I want it's just that I don't know which nodes will hold more value

wet mango
dawn spire
old oriole
hushed viper
dawn spire
feral halo
#

can someone help me transition into a new build? i got the planner i just need advice (will share screen)

dawn spire
feral halo
#

byron

#

I will be your best friend forever

#

if you can help me

#

this is my last attempt at titan

#

I'm almost lvl 85

dawn spire
#

I'm out of the country on a business trip. I ain't got data for a screen share

feral halo
#

I was playing fire ignite switching to alkaizer build

#

as it seems a lot better

dawn spire
#

Can you post your tree? I'm also unfamiliar with the alkaizer build

feral halo
#

I'm respeccing my tree

dawn spire
#

Alright, lemme read this

ionic cargo
#

can damage over time crit?

unkempt nexus
#

what would be the best character for magic find?

#

(morior invictus, 2x andvarius)

dawn spire
#

Undraz Fire Titan Build Help

fiery horizon
dawn spire
ionic cargo
#

will it increase the dot if the hit crits?

wet mango
#

So 25% more dmg

nimble fiber
#

can the chaos damage over time applied by decaying hex crit?

wet mango
nimble fiber
#

thx

shadow tinsel
#

Are resistances as crucial in this game as PoE1? I’m still not at maps yet but I’ve noticed I’m not being as punished as I was in PoE1 for not having res cap

silent stump
#

it matters alot later

tidal copper
wild nimbus
#

holy shit

#

+2
and not a single socketed from val orbs

#

am i stupid or what

lone temple
#

yes

#

🙂

wild nimbus
sterile stone
#

guys when a debuff/ailment is consumed it means its gone after being consumed right

lone temple
#

nothing it is just bad luck

sterile stone
#

so i can start re applying it again

tidal copper
tidal copper
old oriole
#

does this work on bosses?

sterile stone
tidal copper
sterile stone
#

yeah im trying it for minions

warm egret
#

Is it best to get raw dmg notes for Monk first before focusing on crit?

tidal copper
nimble fiber
#

Palm skills that dash to the enemey still dont count as travel skills, right?

void pewter
#

but that could be wrong

nimble fiber
#

yeah it doesnt have the tag but it still kindof travels but i guess it doesnt count

tidal copper
void pewter
#

not even flicker strike has travel tag though so that makes me unsure

dusk notch
#

I wanna try a pyromancer infernalist with demon form with demon flare stacks did any of yall try it yet?

sterile stone
#

you mean mana flare?

dusk notch
ionic cargo
#

will i still get bonus life if i take eldritch battery with this

dusk notch
#

P sure its called that

tidal copper
old oriole
#

is 40% more area dmg just 40% more damage?

void pewter
#

there are many skills with an area of effect that does not do area dmg, so not really

#

like lightning arrow

tidal copper
#

Look at gem tags

void pewter
#

gem tags does not help with that

#

need to check dmg numbers on the detailed screen

feral halo
#

Looking for someone to help me transition into a new build (discord call)

old oriole
tidal copper
void pewter
#

other way around, lightning arrow has aoe tag

#

but not aoe dmg

#

can be supported by conc but doesnt get dmg

void pewter
tidal copper
void pewter
#

neither projectile or chain dmg is increased by conc

old oriole
#

what is elemental discharge?

void pewter
#

but this is the same as in poe, wait for wiki to be updated or test urself to know for sure

livid hamlet
#

Is armor worth anything late game ?
I'm trying to build a bloodmage and i'm wondering what defence layers i should go fo

livid hamlet
#

I can go the shortest route

#

for some nodes

#

through templar/druid

#

it's like 20-25 nodes i think to get into warrior starting arena

#

if i just go for str when necessary it's not so terrible

#

but yeah i'm wandering how to get defences as bloodmage

#

focusing on life stacking

void pewter
#

just spend those nodes on ES instead probably best even as bloodmage

tidal copper
#

What about armour/Eshield though

livid hamlet
#

massive amounts of life + leech + Atziri's acuity is what i'm hoping my best bet to be

void pewter
#

armour is worth less the less you have so hybrid stuff and small investment makes it worse then other things

unkempt nexus
#

what would be the best class to build up a magic find character with / from?

livid hamlet
#

ES will be problematic, since i don't know how much ES i can build up

#

i could get more ES and then go for Soul Tether

#

that would definitely be viable

nimble fiber
#

My Quaterstaff does only Physical damage but the skills i use convert alot to elemental damage. Would Primal Armament (25% more weapon elemental damage) have an effect?

void pewter
#

thats probably the endgame play yeah

livid hamlet
#

I was thinking armor since one of my endgame plans was Kaom's

void pewter
#

life costs for skills shouldnt fuck with ES though so i think ur fine using some es as a buffer before then

livid hamlet
#

which is armor based

void pewter
#

i think at least

#

idk

nimble fiber
#

k thx

livid hamlet
#

yeah life cost doesn't matter for ES

#

if i went for ES i would defo go for soul tether tho

wet mango
tidal copper
#

If you reach the warrior tree you also get some physical DMG nodes that could be good?

lament idol
#

Hello folks, there is no class/ascendancy sections or i am just blindie? 😄

livid hamlet
#

My end game is not phys but chaos

#

i want to stack as much life cost as possible

#

with burden of shadows

#

and blow everything up with corpse explosion getting crapload of chaos damgae

#

that would also make me totally immune to mana costs

#

so i can also get MOM, not that it will matter a lot

wet mango
tidal copper
wet mango
#

But the point is things can have multiple parts

#

Some can be aoe while others not

livid hamlet
void pewter
#

kaoms has basically no armor so ur not off to a good start

livid hamlet
#

which i already am as a witch

#

there's some going left

#

and i will pick spagettification since it's right next to the major crit cluster

tidal copper
wicked canyon
#

how does the dps for the dualstring bow work? If it has 32-63 phys dmg, is that dps split between the two arrows or each arrow does that much dmg?

void pewter
lucid glade
#

I can't talk in the church of sorc, do I just ask here ?

prisma bear
#

how much resistance do mobs have before map mods/rare affix? i'm trying to figure out how to minmax my tree and support gems but i have no idea how much pen i need

ionic cargo
#

almost found righteous fire but it doesnt work

wet mango
#

They added a string! Now we can fire 2 arrows with the same power as previously!

fiery horizon
void pewter
livid hamlet
lucid glade
#

I'm still in Act 2, sorc, and getting one-shotted by Rudja. I tried ember+wall+spirits, spark+wall or arc builds, but nothing stands out for more dps and even with some fire resist I still get one shotted by this boss.

Am I doing something wrong ? Is it playing sorc and I should roll a monk or something where leveling is better ?

livid hamlet
#

it's not fully filled

void pewter
#

but i guess the curse is considered a support to blasphemy? so you cant even socket it?

ionic cargo
livid hamlet
#

but the general idea is just to stack a crapload of chaos and crit

#

get insta leech from Atziri's

#

to keep me capped

void pewter
livid hamlet
#

and see where we will end

wet mango
#

You can use other supports on the blasphemy curse

ionic cargo
#

i can socket it in

livid hamlet
#

and now i wonder how to steamline this a bit

wet mango
#

Like incr AOE and stuff

void pewter
#

report it and see what happens

livid hamlet
#

What ?
you can socket supports

#

blasphemy is a meta gem

#

which casts skills

#

you can support these skills

void pewter
#

yeah that is how it should work

#

apparently it doesnt

livid hamlet
#

interesting

snow sierra
#

can you socked it without blasphemy ?

ionic cargo
#

here

#

i can socket it in

snow sierra
#

fighting mass with mass in breach 😛

#

no clue why it shouldnt work then too sorry

void pewter
snow sierra
#

and dos it do something if you dont use blasphemy ?

ionic cargo
#

it degens with the curse

void pewter
snow sierra
#

strange

void pewter
#

id say thats a bug but who knows

ionic cargo
#

i also cant add support gem when manual casting

#

like swift affliction

void pewter
#

blasphemy "turns socketed curse skills into auras" but like the curse limit and stuff still applies right?

#

so its still a curse

weary fog
#

Some dumbass lying on the POE2 Reddit saying this bow is worth over 130 ex 💀💀💀

snow sierra
#

yes its still a curse for sure

ionic cargo
#

no idea where to report things

snow sierra
#

The mana roll dosnt look great but the rest looks insane, and it has open things to slam

#

no expert on weapons tho, i struggel to sort out good ones still

silver warren
#

I have a storm weaver archmage that uses “damage taken as mana before life” from the passive tree and jewels. That and my capped res make me pretty tanky against elemental damage. For physical damage, I only have the 40% damage to mana as mitigation. What ways can I gain some physical damage tankiness that I’m missing?

indigo valley
#

Wish there was a way for Blasphemy to be applied to your minions tho

odd osprey
#

if I have a scepter in my 2 slot does the spirit still cross over to my 1 slot?

snow sierra
#

not possible

#

scepter and wands can not be equipt two times

#

you can do scepter + wand tho 😉

feral halo
#

can anyone voice with me just to crunch some numbers on a build?

odd osprey
#

I'm running a monk i have a staff in my 1 slot if I put a scepter in my 2 slot will the spirit cross over to be able to be used on my staff

snow sierra
#

ah missunderstood

#

no only one weapon set is active

odd osprey
#

shit

#

I need spirit

snow sierra
#

body and amulett

odd osprey
#

yeah just getting shit rolls

sand dagger
#

Any guides on a mercenary build?

indigo valley
leaden turtle
#

Any Monk players here? I'm trying to understand why no1 has conc effect with ice strike on their build guides -- apparently its AoE and it works?

void pewter
#

bell should be way more single target dmg if you get ailments on it etc

#

and you wouldnt have to swap for clear

leaden turtle
#

why wouldnt u have to swap?

void pewter
#

why would you use bell to clear

#

press ice strike screen dies

#

no?

leaden turtle
#

Cause ice strike aoe is really small?

void pewter
#

herald of ice

leaden turtle
#

uh no?

frozen cradle
#

herald of ice explodes whole screen of enemies with ice strike

leaden turtle
#

Herald of ice even with magnified effect isn't anywhere near "whole screen"

void pewter
#

can get it to chain with herald of thunder pretty sure, attack speed and one tapping mobs makes ice strike + herald basically flickerstrike from poe anyway

#

except you can stop

#

xdd

leaden turtle
#

but if herald of ice is clearing screen anyway, y not put conc effect on ur attack

void pewter
#

sure but why not put it on the thing doing more damage and not make it harder to hit rares + bell

leaden turtle
#

u can hit the bell + boss?

#

i c

#

so conc effect makes attacks that hit the bell get the benefit of it?

void pewter
#

not sure how bell and conc works might be that bell becomes harder to hit with conc, who knows

#

dont assume anyone has figured everything out yet

#

most likely 90% of the shit in guides atm is wrong or not optimal

leaden turtle
#

i c

#

my understanding of bell is that it merely radiates the attacks that hit it

#

so conc effect might just benefit the actual dropping of the bell

void pewter
#

it is its own attack that happens when it gets hit

#

under shockwave on the gem

leaden turtle
#

right -- but the damage from that attack is based on what hits it, no?

void pewter
#

no it has its own % weapon dmg

leaden turtle
#

it does not

#

only on the initial drop

void pewter
#

it does though

leaden turtle
#

ah ok

#

but in that case

#

my ice strike damage is a lot higher than the shockwaves of bell ;o

#

so wouldnt i just want to pump that as much as possible?

void pewter
#

90% more dmg from having ailments on bell

#

+x% more from knockback

leaden turtle
#

Where does it say 90% more dmg from having ailment on bell?

void pewter
#

on the literal gem

#

under the shockwave tab

leaden turtle
#

this is what mine says

void pewter
#

on the gem

leaden turtle
#

i don't see anything about 90%

void pewter
#

not on character screen

leaden turtle
void pewter
#

yes

#

almost there

#

u can do it

leaden turtle
#

thats the gem?

void pewter
#

"shockwave"

#

click that

leaden turtle
#

i did

#

i pasted

#

the shockwave first

#

lol

void pewter
#

no you pasted character screen

leaden turtle
wild nimbus
#

any tldr about damage penetration ?

void pewter
leaden turtle
#

no i pasted the description under shockwave

#

ahah

#

its 30% more per ailment

void pewter
#

bell has low treshold for ailments so should be able to hit at least 3 as long as yuo have some added fire dmg somewhere

#

i think at least

leaden turtle
#

yes

#

ive been igniting it with a very small amount of fire

void pewter
#

still 60% + whatever in knockback % dmg

#

giga damage

#

multiplicative since different lines, so * whatever in knockback dmg even

leaden turtle
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idk what world u guys r in that herald of ice is screen clearing tho ;p

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its radius is like.... 1/4 of the screen

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with magnified effect

noble flume
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There's supposed to be a ring that helps with spark. Anyone know what that is?

void pewter
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and then you blink to next mob and it dies and repeat with 140% base attack speed

leaden turtle
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yea its very efficient but

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when theres a huge wave on the screen

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bell is better

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so that seems like conc wouldnt be great

void pewter
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you do you but really ur gonna not just hold down right click when you could

versed hazel
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what are all the ways u can increase ur spirit?

void pewter
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even if its marginally slower

leaden turtle
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i guess my biggest

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issue with conc on ice strike is that maybe it won't also hit bell + the mob?

void pewter
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thats what im thinking

leaden turtle
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lemme test

void pewter
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its already fucking annoying to hit bell + target

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with every attack, the "finisher" is a lot bigger

leaden turtle
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yea

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thats the main issue tbh

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its still possible but

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more finicky, easier to mess up

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so whats the ideal 5link for ice strike?

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i have martial tempo, primal armament, and cold infusion atm

alpine pecan
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depends what you want to do with it i guess. just damage? otherwise freeze buildup and/or duration is good too.

leaden turtle
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just dmg

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my freeze buildup is alrdy super high and dmg will make it higher

mortal cloak
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So I’ve been running dual xbow shotgun frag shot plus grenades but frag shot is falling off hard. Any suggestions to compliment grenade build for my second weapon/weapon skill set ?

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At level 62 or so now

void pewter
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ice bite seems like a no brainer, but that kinda depends on how it interacts with bell i guess for single target

leaden turtle
void pewter
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if it proccs from freezing the bnell

leaden turtle
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ah

void pewter
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probably not since its not an enemy

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but who knows

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that might be testable i guess if you hit bell and check char screen

leaden turtle
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well u have to freeze the enemy with the skill its linked too

void pewter
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yeah ice bite on ice strike, hit bell

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freeze bell

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get dmg

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then freeze boss, keep damage

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boss dead

leaden turtle
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hm

void pewter
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then you have close combat

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actually ice bite is "all attacks gain damage"

leaden turtle
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i think it works

void pewter
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so that should be on bell ur right

leaden turtle
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i mean, ice bite seems to be triggering from freezing the bell

void pewter
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or ye

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however you wanna do it

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bell max dmg or support gems

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ice strike support gems or max dmg

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ice bite will be permanently up on trash if its on ice strike

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which is nice for herald as well

leaden turtle
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I don't love how cold infusion cuts light in half tho

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cause it would make sense to get the 10% extra as light right?

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so I can shock?

magic merlin
alpine pecan
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crescendo, ruthless, rage, cold pen (if you dont have it on the tree cold pen for sure otherwise not really). you can replace cold infusion if you have other elemental damage too and just go rage or whatever else. if you use combo points there's also the support for that.

void pewter
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and rage yeah, rage on ice strike or bell kinda up to you i guess

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rage on clear seems nice

leaden turtle
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hmm

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is there anyway to tell how much 1 metre is

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for close combat

void pewter
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i think its actually shorter then your melee range but you will be standing inside bosses kinda most of the time

alpine pecan
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no but it's not big. roughly ice strike range.

leaden turtle
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hm

alpine pecan
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primal armament

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you had that already

versed hazel
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would 100% minion revive rate making revival instant or cut the cooldown in half?

leaden turtle
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ya

versed hazel
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which?

leaden turtle
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sry was ya @ robin

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it would probably cut it in half

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rage falls off too fast, i don't mind having it on bell so its up for bosses

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close combat i wish i knew how much id actually get ;p

stable turtle
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As a ranger do I want Acrobatics passive?

leaden turtle
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Only if you stack enough evasion

stable turtle
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What does it really do besides nerf my evasion

leaden turtle
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lets u dodge spells

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and hits that are normally not evadable

stable turtle
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Oh you cant dodge spells without it?

leaden turtle
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cannot

stable turtle
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Okay thanks

slender furnace
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False

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Spells and hits are the same in poe 2

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Acrobatics let's you dodge aoe like slams

stable turtle
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I went from 67% to 25%

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So its just for AOEs

leaden turtle
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fales

leaden turtle
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"enemy strikes or projectiles"

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not spells

slender furnace
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Bro

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They changed how the entire system works in poe 2

leaden turtle
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bro im reading POE2's evasion

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hold alt on anything that gives evasion and read it

slender furnace
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There's no difference between spells and attacks now

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You're reading it wrong

leaden turtle
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k

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"evasion grants a chance to evade enemy strikes or projectiles"

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read it correct for me

slender furnace
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Strikes and projectiles does not discern between spells and attacks

leaden turtle
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Strikes are attacks

slender furnace
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Spells produce projectiles

leaden turtle
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spells could be a projectile

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Oh? comets a projectile?

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flame strikes a projectile?

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arcs a projectile?

slender furnace
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I know I'm right so you can believe whatever you want

leaden turtle
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lol ok

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GL with that

slender furnace
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Where's spell block?

stable turtle
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Tilted hes right

leaden turtle
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Hes right that some spells produce projectiles

stable turtle
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Look in passive for projectile they counts spells as projectiles

leaden turtle
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No, some spells produce projectiles

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Those would be counted

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IE: fireball

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the 3 spells i just listed, do not

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and you cannot evade them without acrobatics

stable turtle
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Yes but arnt those AOEs?

leaden turtle
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Arc? no

slender furnace
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You described constantly as a spell...comet is aoe...which acrobatics would evade but normal evasion would not

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Comet*

leaden turtle
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Most spells are not projectiles

slender furnace
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That's just made up number one

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Number two spells that aren't projectiles are going to be aoe...which is why acrobatics is useful

leaden turtle
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Flame wall, ice nova, frost bomb, orb of storms, incinerate, solar orb, cold snap, arc, frost wall, lightning warp, firestorm, comet, flameblast, lightning conduit

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ALL non projectiles

stable turtle
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Those are AOEs which is what he said though

leaden turtle
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anyways im done

alpine pecan
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spells have always had spells that are projectiles. you do not need to roll accuracy with a projectile spell.

leaden turtle
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there's no threatening projectile spells in this game as a player, every spell u want to evade u need acrobatics for

stable turtle
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Either way it sounds useful to have Acrobatics

leaden turtle
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ya just huge -evasion so u need a lot

alpine pecan
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evasion only work on projectile ATTACKS not projectile SPELLS

slender furnace
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Wrong

alpine pecan
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nope

slender furnace
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Yup

leaden turtle
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we just had this conversation lol

void pewter
slender furnace
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This isn't poe 1

alpine pecan
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nope

peak whale
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the classification now is "can be evaded" vs "cannot be evaded"

void pewter
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but for monsters yes

peak whale
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as a general rule, any aoe that has a telegraph (e.g. you can see the animation of the attack coming out and can walk/roll out of the area in a reasonable amount of time) cannot be evaded, because the game expects you to GTFO

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but acrobatics lets you just stand in those (if you feel like rolling the dice - i still wouldn't because those attacks tend to do a LOT of damage and potentially oneshot you, so rolling the dice to see if you live or die is not ideal)

shell temple
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I was thinking of going all in on a support aura/cursebot build:

  • Get discipline to provide shield to allies
  • max out mana on gear
  • get all mana recharge + curse + energy shield
  • as much spirit, maybe 3 curses and 2 auras

Would this work in late game mapping with a duo?

alpine pecan
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I think you guys are confusing information that has been put out for dodge with how evasion works. Dodge roll can evade all projectiles including spells, evasion only attacks (anything that needs accuracy to hit, which spell projectiles do not).

void pewter
alpine pecan
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attack projectiles

void pewter
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no

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just projectiles

alpine pecan
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spell projectiles LITERALLY do not have an accuracy value and you CANNOT EVADE WITHOUT ACCURACY RATING INVOLVED

void pewter
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for you no, but mobs might have

vital walrus
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Hi I've been wondering... since Shattering Blows breaks 50% of armor on Heavy stun, will getting 100% of "break increased % armor" affect that value too and make it fully break armor in one heavy stun or is it a static thing?

alpine pecan
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no

void pewter
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its been established defenses works differerntly for players and mobs

slender furnace
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Jonathan literally discussed how there is no distinction between spells and attacks in poe2 for enemies

void pewter
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somewhere

tidal copper
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It just can't be

slender furnace
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I was able to craft in the campaign

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So I fail to see how that was a lie

tidal copper
void pewter
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yeah i am def evading spell projectiles on a 39 deadeye in the a1 crypts

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thats as spellish as it gets

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my first reflex was also to spout poe1 bullshit but ye acro only good for AOE then

wind bane
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taking Pyromantic Pact as infernalist bricks things like mom?

versed hazel
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ironically pyromantic pact is like the entirety of blood mage, but better in just 1 node

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u can cast as many spells as u want, and u dont die as fast

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but blood mage can run out of mana still

wind bane
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things that gives for example x% of mana as es will also stop working?