2┃build-planning

[worldly harbor]

yeah but the problem with spell lecch on blood mage is that you want to have overflow life, right? and you cant spell leeech if you are, so its kinda counter productive in a way.

[chilly fiber]

i gotta admit running through the story with 51% movementspeed permanent a ton of attack speed and 5+ level of projectiles on a ranger is kinda enjoyable xD

[worldly harbor]

good for bosses i guess to recover (if spell leech works now)

[sonic peak]

Ah yeah, if you're playing monk acolyte is the way to go
Just be aware that some of it's nodes are questionable (no spirit?) and that right now it's really hard to get the last 4 asc points, so base your build around 4 points

[knotty spruce]

yup the im planning on probably goin insta leech 2 then either the es leech or into the Into the breach ability

im jsut wondering what abilities i should go

mantra of destruction for 1 big hit then others?

curse strike for debuff

[sharp siren]

What website do people use for builds? Specifically I’m trying a lightning sorc but getting pretty poor outcome. level 18 stuck at act 1 boss

[sacred sail]

guys how do you get defense on the tree ? I find it so difficult to find some powerful dmg mitigation or recovery 😥

damage scaling, easy

[hoary laurel]

guys can Storm Wave be chained with this skill?

[tender oasis]

evasion and armor

[sacred sail]

at most I'll be able to take 77-78% res in each element and that's it

[eager jacinth]

I need to up my def as a stormweaver, is it better to go full ES with eldritch and CI or maybe get more ES?Ev gear

[severe raft]

bros did lightning rod get nerfed? I can’t check notes rn

[tender oasis]

herald of thunder got bug fixed

[sonic peak]

Most PoE1 build sites kinda suck because of the amount of bad builds uploaded, so most ppl just follow specific content creators on YT

[sacred sail]

even with CI probably better to pair it with evasion, at least in poe 1 you need that

[main sinew]

Hey lads, im working on something and need a good souce of shocked ground. Anyone know of anything aside from Lightning Warp and Lightning Skeles?

[native burrow]

So if transforming into a Demon unequips my weapons, and I want to maximise my time in Demon form, then weapon stats arent a priority for me are they?

[sacred sail]

@eager jacinthES is like life pool in a way but only evasion or armour helps against physical damage

[tender oasis]

maxroll guides look quality

[eager jacinth]

yeah need top sort my gear only 800 life in cruel 1

[tender oasis]

we need stun immunity somewhere

[lethal pawn]

as a infurnal witch monk what is the best way for me to gen power charges or reliable ways

[sonic peak]

For a lightning build, you can prob check Captainlance9's build. Haven't checked it myself, but the guy made some good builds in PoE1

[calm orchid]

Alright guys

[sacred sail]

it's fine :p you'll get better gear just get more ES it's like life for you

[sonic peak]

I think he's doing archmage (mana stacking)

[near jewel]

des it affect totem damage too? first line?

[delicate topaz]

hey how much res to each type do i need? im finishing act 3 and i get tapped sometimes (monk level 43)

[eager jacinth]

i guess yeah es ev with ci would work

[calm orchid]

So to prevent my build from getting bricked again I think my next one will just be the worst skill tree you’ve ever seen

That way it can’t be nerfed

[hidden oriole]

When using Iron Reflexes (converts all evasion rating into armor), how does this work?

• converts before doing anything multiplicative, rendering all evasion passives useless
• calculates armor and evasion independently, and after everything is finished, evasion is moved/added onto armor
• calculates evasion using all passives, adds onto armor, armor then gets calculated using passives
• something else

[orchid torrent]

for anyone into actual build building - is there a game you can recommend that also has a similar difficulty to this one but skill variety. I'm a bit tired of how few options for spells there are, especially as my current class - ice sorc

[sonic peak]

As close as you can to cap (75)

[near jewel]

which is why im playing totems 😔

[sacred sail]

@eager jacinthin a ideal world you want enough Life or ES/phys mitigation/element mitigation like resistances to not get one shot. You need evasion so you don't get hit by every small hit or big hit sometimes it helps to give you time to leech/recover energy shield

[delicate topaz]

so running 0 as i was doing was not rlly good right

xd

[sonic peak]

Yeah xD

[plain osprey]

what do y'all use to detonate Gas Arrow?

[sonic peak]

You should at least try to get ~30-40

[delicate topaz]

kk ty

[eager jacinth]

Yeah I have poe1 exp but trying to actuallym resolve my issues myself now

[sacred sail]

I see, good luck then

[sonic peak]

(30-40 above 0, since each act you go through lowers your resistances)

[eager jacinth]

would storm weaver 40 ele return to life cancel out ci?

[sacred sail]

what is storm weaver 40 ele

return

[delicate topaz]

i have 30% lightning 10% cold 0% the rest xd

[sacred sail]

I'm playing warrior

[eager jacinth]

oh wait its es

mb

[delicate topaz]

chaos is the most common right?

[sacred sail]

np

[sacred sail]

chaos will mostly be about bleed and poison

[knotty spruce]

so this is a quick n dirty chaos acolyte monk build. Can anyone tell me if theres any glaring mistakes?

[eager jacinth]

heart of storm

[distant glade]

Does chronomancer slow count as a hinder?

[eager jacinth]

I'm annoyed that they didn't carry frag stash but did for flasks when theres less need for it

[civic pollen]

is the skeletal cleric worth using alte game? i have 8 arsonists already

for reviving

[tender oasis]

okay yu can improve that tree alot

[sacred sail]

idk anything about the node on that side but pathing seems inneficient = wasting nodes

[knotty spruce]

hmm gotcha still new so gotta learn to be more efficient with it

[tender oasis]

cut the bottom

[civic pollen]

does anyone know is skeletal cleric is worth using late game?

[sacred sail]

I rarely see such inefficient tree 😭 my eyes

xD

[knotty spruce]

ay man im learnin xd

[sacred sail]

yeah I didn't want to be mean

don't worry

[knotty spruce]

im heart broken

lol so i should focus more to use the lowest amount of points for all that i want

[sacred sail]

I wanted to help you but my food is ready

also idk how to make the planner work

[tender oasis]

give me a second

[sacred sail]

nice you're taking care of this

I can eat

it's poe player purpose and mission to fix such tree

to make the world a more beautiful place

[broken valve]

I dunno why I'm clearing shit no worries and you're not then? I'm not in endgame, I'm level 60 finishing the campaign but I instakill packs and take bosses down in under 60 seconds. So that sounds like its "fine" to me. Maybe your build just sucks?

[pearl scroll]

Is there any way to convert life recovery to ES recovery? some unique or keystone? no leech

[mint glacier]

I’m planning on starting the game and looking through different characters, I’m wondering if mercenaries are good?

[knotty spruce]

lol thanks lads sadly i gota head to work soon lol this was just a quick cook

[dreamy crow]

fire grenade merc is still very good and fun imo

[mint glacier]

Like the one with turrets kinda?

[sacred sail]

yes keystone

[mint glacier]

What about this one?

The like lightning turrets I think

[worldly harbor]

i only see 5x 8% more Energy gain nodes on a tree? so its like instead of CoF every 10 white mobs, it would be 7

for comet

[pearl scroll]

its from regeneration though im asking for just normal recovery also it would take 20 travel points to path there for me which is oof

[unkempt nexus]

can someone confirm if this is broken or not, it does absolutely nothing visible to my spirit

[uneven aspen]

Do all MoM summoner witch typically go for infernalist - Beidat's Will? Tryna spend these points but nothing looks appetizing yet

[tender oasis]

behold

[knotty spruce]

its so beutifull

[broken valve]

Yeah but you also have the two ways to refund energy, so half the time I start on 50%. I think the biggest issue is that people are still expecting comet to do everything. There are 3-4 other abilities you should also have in the rotation. Once you use all the tools, the build still chops.

everyone just got used to frostbolt + sleep for a while = comets kill everything

[pearl scroll]

glaring mistake would be scaling chaos damage instead of ele damage imo but not sure without PoB

[flint orchid]

I'm in A2 Cruel. Tried COF comet for the first time since it was nerfed and the build still felt fine. Slower, but still OP. I just weaved in more manual casting of comets.

What's the uproar about?

[worldly harbor]

i used freezing shards, but yeah

[knotty spruce]

its really that bad?

[bronze fulcrum]

Hello guys, is Invoker monk 100% dex ?

[tender oasis]

no

[cosmic copper]

Hi, looking for a suggestion: do you guys think that totem build will be best with warbringer? Because now i'm on Merc and probably i need to reroll 😭

[broken valve]

I just checked, 3 comets in under 10 seconds clearing in a3 cruel campaign, while moving

that's still very solid

[atomic pier]

Are there any unique flasks in the game?>

[broken valve]

especially since the build doesn't even need comet to clear, its just nice when you drop it on a rare and instakill it, and on bosses

[gaunt heron]

no

[wanton kayak]

Hi did they nerf srs? I can't play today but was playing last night using flame wall

[distant glade]

Does chronomancer slow count as hinder ?

[sacred sail]

how many pts did you use

[worldly harbor]

what are two ways to refund energy? @broken valve Energise is one for 25% to refund, i dont see the other one?

[tender oasis]

93

[pearl scroll]

We wont know until we have PoB for sure but all the skills scale with ele damage and the chaos damage is just the creme on the top

[atomic pier]

It lowers the spirit cost needed to reserve your minions, check the individual skill gems or how many you can summon shud increase no?

[broken valve]

There's a support gem that does the same thing. Not 100% sure they stack, but it seems like they do

I'm specced heavily into ES rather than damage, and just dropped the boss I was up to in under 60 seconds

May not be the best build any more, def keen to try lightning, but it definitely works well

[worldly harbor]

on bosses i didnt rely on cast on freeze anyway

som im not concerned about that

[eager jacinth]

I'm annoyed that they didn't carry frag stash but did for flasks when theres less need for it

[karmic stag]

Does anyone know if Merit of Service allows you to block witha weapon that doesn't normally have block chance? It readys like it would but I wasn't sure

[peak solstice]

What ideal stats on armor and weapon should i look for to build titan?

[unkempt nexus]

absolutely nothing changed

[formal junco]

is there any recommended unique for infernalist witch lvl up? my sorc is dead so i need to create another character

[unkempt nexus]

i was 48/292 spirit before the node and 48/292 spirit after the node

[worldly harbor]

@broken valve so hows your normal gameplay look like? frostbolting everything and cold snapping?

[broken valve]

frost bomb + orb of storms (for me, for shock and +ailments damage, optional) + ice wall + a frostbolt if needed + cold snap can be done in about 2-3 seconds and clears most packs. The comet will usually land at the end and clear up the ones you missed

ice wall keeps the enemies on the bomb, the bomb blows up the wall for damage + freeze, then cold snap to finish it

[tender oasis]

monk can add chaos damage with mantra of dsitruction

[unkempt nexus]

odd. it applies to the cost of the gem itself but...that should have changed my spirit reservation left? thats weird af x.x idk

[sonic peak]

Not rly specific for titan, but
Armor = Armor + Life (+ resistances as needed to reach cap)
Weapon = %Phys + Attack Speed

[broken valve]

big packs the comets really shine, cause as the first lot die and proc comet, the next lot walk into it

[worldly harbor]

arent small mobs just pushed away by frost wall without damaging them?

[broken valve]

yeah onto my frost bomb

[tender oasis]

unironnicly increased stun should be mostly avoded

[worldly harbor]

oh thats what you mean

[sacred sail]

@knotty spruceyou really have to think on how to path toward certain thing and if it's worth it to go there like. Try to save as many points as possible

[tender oasis]

im overstuning for boneshatter sometimes

suffering from sucess

[sonic peak]

Good for bossing no?

[tender oasis]

yes

[white timber]

Everything that affects my hit damage affects my bleed, but hit damage increase debuffs isnt?

[tender oasis]

but clearing can get iffy

i also over stunned a few bosses

[unkempt nexus]

figured out what it was, you need to fully remove your minion count and then re-apply after taking lord of horrors. weird af.

[tender oasis]

sounds like a bug

might want to report that

[worldly harbor]

any phys spell enjoyers here?

[sonic peak]

Not everything that affects hit dmg affects bleed
It only factors phys dmg, so if you have 'added fire dmg' that dmg is not considered
Not sure what you mean about debuffs

[sacred sail]

I'm doing some titan stuff aswell, do you think I missed important nodes ? 🤔

[gilded shoal]

if my blueflame bracers convert 100% of fire damage to cold damage, does that mean a ring with + 26 % fire damage also adds that , or does it do nothing and require it to be + 26% cold damage on the ring to work?

[sonic peak]

I tried to respec my bloodmage into it, ngl, felt a bit like shit

[tender oasis]

are you breaking armor brillanty

[worldly harbor]

xD

[sonic peak]

Mainly because other than the bone channeling thingy for AoE, there's no good single target skill

[sacred sail]

yes I took the 50% armour break on stun with + 100% armour break

[worldly harbor]

do you know if crit is useful for phys spells? i mean what about bleed?

[sacred sail]

so I armour break all the time

[tender oasis]

.>

[sonic peak]

They are, some phys spell nodes also grant crit

[tender oasis]

hows you skill speed feeling brillanty

[sonic peak]

And yeah, near the witch starting point there are a few phys spell + bleed nodes

[worldly harbor]

but how bleed works for critted spell? i get bigger bleed? or we don tcare about bleed?

[white timber]

Everthing that affects my attacks/spells hit wise (respectively to damage phys, ele(blood mage)) -> affects bleed
Anything that specify increases hit damage on monster (debuffs) -> doesnt

[sacred sail]

doing good, could be better but I'm player a slamer so that's expected

I die all the time casting sunder

now I clear with stampede

[tender oasis]

theres a nice skill speed node clostto the start

[sonic peak]

Bleed scales directly with the physical dmg you dealt, so yes, crit = better bleed

[worldly harbor]

but its stil lshit yo usay? xD

[sacred sail]

I see

[tender oasis]

its 12% in total on that route

[worldly harbor]

when i first rolled Witch i was debating if i hsould go cold or phys, and ive chosed cold

now i wonder if phys is cool to play

[sacred sail]

this giver me 26% attack speed

[sonic peak]

Uh, you sure? If it's increasing the phys dmg it should increase the bleed
Like, it won't double stack like in 1, but it will still result in a higher bleed

[tender oasis]

this is pecificly skill speed

[sharp yacht]

Guys is gear level requirements irrelevant? I see 2 pieces of the same weapon exact stats but one requires level 17 and the other 67

[tender oasis]

its adative

[sacred sail]

isnt attack speed the same as skill speed for me ?

like I'm using attack

[sonic peak]

There's only 2 phys spell skills, so build variety is kinda boring :/

Unless you can convert ele dmg to phys smh

[tender oasis]

bonestorm mana cost gets silly

[sacred sail]

I will consider using more though

[worldly harbor]

irrelevant

what about that phys skill on a staff or wand?

[quasi shell]

any way to make seismic cry leech?

[sonic peak]

It's because of the item ilvl
Ilvl impacts what modifiers you can get through crafting

[sacred sail]

yeah I use a lvl 6 infernal cry and inspiration on seismic cry

[sonic peak]

So like, maybe you can only get T5 Phys% if the item is ilvl 60 or higher, etc

[tender oasis]

also are you not hitting

[sacred sail]

I'm fine I got a 250 accuracy ring and 50 accuracy on my weapon xD

[tender oasis]

your clsoe by to best node

[worldly harbor]

dont forget to include light radius

in your build

[sacred sail]

that's french but 247 accuracy, 23 thunder dmg to attack and lot of res :p

[knotty spruce]

Yup haha was a quick n dirty one without much though as im headin to work now

[south fox]

hmm... does anyone know if grenades need accuracy?

its aoe so im assuming not right?

[slim zinc]

Hey bro, have you tried? I feel like it doesn't really do anything (besides generate more purple flames when enemies are killed by bell)

[sacred sail]

yeah I see, as soon as I start to miss I'll take it

[tender oasis]

you relize you need to be hit to get that attack speed right bonus right?

[sacred sail]

don't we always get hit ? I can't even slam without being hit by something 😭

I die one hundred time casting sunder

[verbal sundial]

should i use chain with pierce for this skill?
someone told me it wont chain or my damage is being reduced if i use both chain and pierce and that pierce alone is enough

[worldly harbor]

if its attack it needs accuracy. doesnt matetr if its aoe or not

[bold herald]

Can you share? I really tried it and it wasnt okay, even after respeccing into meta energy gain like you said

[tender oasis]

chain improves the combo with lightning rod

[wraith fox]

i'd argue chain isnt needed on it

[sacred sail]

thx for your input

on my tree

would be nice to have non conditional attack speed later

[tender oasis]

danke

[plain osprey]

for "Gas Arrow" is the main damage Fire or Poison?

[tender oasis]

.>

[sacred sail]

ngl it's funny to see ppl being mad about some build being nerfed while they themselves rerolled to this build because it was op, like you know what you were doing and everyone aswell 😅 anyway

you feel it when you play something that is kinda overpowered idk

[modern lintel]

So just to make sure I've got this right

Iron Reflexes will, after every other modifier, convert Evasion into Armour

[sacred sail]

yes

[stuck coyote]

That's a reach. A lot of people did 2+2 and discovered it on it's own because it's very obvious, or they rolled it b/c they thought it's cool. Now It's bricked. And telling me to go self cast Cold Snap is a fun gameplay loop instead.

[modern lintel]

So even something like the 30% more Evasion after a Dodge Roll would still apply and be, functionally, 30% Increased Armour

Increased, not more

Long day, tired

[broken valve]

I'll try stream in POE Party 7. Dunno how the quality will be

[sacred sail]

I think all the video guide about comet build are popular idk

[tender oasis]

maxroll has one comet build

[sacred sail]

@stuck coyotepersonally I really like nerf, I find that overpowered stuff contrive my choices and it's lame, I hate having limited choice and "choosing" to have a bad build on purpose is not that fun

[tender oasis]

also it still looks better than poe1 trigger shenanigans

[sacred sail]

idk I find it everywhereo n youtube

[stuck coyote]

B/c it's the only sorc build that was properly working in maps. And it's easy to set up

[stuck coyote]

Did you get to maps?

[sacred sail]

like I was wondering how cold ranger were like ? guess what nobody play it, everyone go lightning arrow, everyone plays the same build everywhere

bit annoying

[tender oasis]

cold rangerexists hold on

[sacred sail]

I can"t even see how the ability looks like in game because I need the attribute to see the videos of skills

[sacred sail]

yes ! currently T2 maps

[stuck coyote]

So let me tell you this

sorc right now, has pretty much nothing

Unless you enjoy tedious gameplay

[obtuse escarp]

Sorc is hot garbage to play now lmao

[stuck coyote]

Sorc's identity is tied to cast on X skills atm. There is nothing else to aspire for

[sacred sail]

I played poe 1 before, everytime a popular build get nerfed it's instantaneously dead and unplayable, people are often exaggerating a lot.

[tender oasis]

freeze salvo on ranger is untouched by nerfs

[sacred sail]

ngl I wanted to try sorc later

[stuck coyote]

It was rarely mid-league. This is EA so sure, it can happen, but you need to properly compensate. Many people like me are stuck with no gold or currency to make changes

[sacred sail]

gold cost for me is slightly too steep

[stuck coyote]

A little?

[sacred sail]

like not a lot but a little bit

[tender oasis]

the repecs costing gold in ea might be a bad thing

[modern lintel]

That's wrong though

[fleet terrace]

People have spoiled themselves on the overtuned power of the trigger builds. There are myriad other skills to be played, manually, we just have to find the new hotness and we lack the tools to actually do that with less effort atm

[stuck coyote]

5k per respec at level 75

5k gold per point

huh???

[tender oasis]

poe1 trigger on items i hated with a passion

[stuck coyote]

Cool, make them actually deal damage. Scaling damage on skills atm for sorc is non-existent

[fleet terrace]

This would be solved a bit more effectively if we had a pob allegory but we barely have an accurate tree planner atm lol

[tender oasis]

we do have a tree planner

maxroll

[fleet terrace]

yeah one that's hilariously inaccurate

[sacred sail]

and how much gold did you make ? I mapped for a while and got 60k gold for sure 5K is too much that's what I'm saying something like 3.5K 4K gold would be noticeable I think if you reduce it by a bit

[fleet terrace]

The starting zones for witch and sorc are both the sorc's starting zone

and they're different in game

[sharp siren]

How do you build lightning sorc with the cast on nerf?

[stuck coyote]

I got up to 220k, spent 150k of it last night to change my tree into archmage

[peak solstice]

Just saw someone mentioning that the giants blood ability with weilding dual 2h weapons is bad compared to 1 x 2h weapon but wanted to check in with you guys?

[nova topaz]

You make a deadeye kek

[sacred sail]

I won't die on that hill though, I just dididn'(t mind farming a bit to respec I just felt it was a bit too much

[stuck coyote]

There's no real support for dual 2h atm. It's bad.

[tender oasis]

witch gets minion amaeg at the start lol

[weak pulsar]

How does monk play in the EA atm? I wanna play melee but warrior just feels so bad

[stuck coyote]

Right now many people are in my situation. No gold, No currency, stuck with a dead build. The workarounds are either incredibly unfun or not possible.

[peak solstice]

No support for dual 2h? As in really good skill tree nodes for dual 2h?

[stuck coyote]

no skill really does anything with dual 2h

Wait for duelist.

[tender oasis]

^

[fair axle]

Has anyone made a bleed sorc?

[peak solstice]

Is there a release date for duelist?

[stuck coyote]

No.

[tender oasis]

dual two handed sword will probly go hard when we get them

[bleak leaf]

is blood mage playable with leech buffed?

[peak solstice]

Damn

[sacred sail]

I think it was expected when you play something stronger than anything else in the game but they could give some respec when they make huge balance changes

[tender oasis]

leech is fine untill you overcap

[sacred sail]

wrong ping xD

[tender oasis]

leeh doesnt heal bloodmage life overcap

also maxroll does change with classs selected smh

[stuck coyote]

CoF felt like I finally do some dmg and don't have to kite every white mob. No other skill for sorc has that atm.

[sacred sail]

I wanted to tell you that I don't think giant blood is that bad or non usable, it's fun you get big damage, more life. At the end of the day if you want to get a character dual wielding 2 handed weapon you can but you have to make some sacrifice (like any keystone) it won't be the best that's all

[tender oasis]

look spark firewall is fine damage

[stuck coyote]

Did you get to maps?

[sacred sail]

how far did you get into endgame ?

[stuck coyote]

I made it to t5s. My build was not up to par and I just made the upgrades I needed to keep pushing before the nerfs.

[wise falcon]

if i have a weapon with "13% of Damage as Extra Fire Damage" , and i use a cold skill, will it have a chance of proc ignite ? same question for shock if i have lightning instead of fire on the weapon

[sacred sail]

personally I have issue with survivability

[fair axle]

I was at the exactly same point. Around t5s, finally was able to clear mobs OK but struggled on all bosses even t1 - now its completely gutted and I dont know what to do next lol

[tender oasis]

you can yes

[sacred sail]

but my warrior is super fun, I keep clearing with my movement ability

[stuck coyote]

for bosses you use frost wall.

CoF was mainly for clear

and frost bomb

[tender oasis]

leap slam will prime white and blue mobs for boneshatter and sunder

[stuck coyote]

cold spells have virtually no clear now

[fair axle]

I had frost wall + srs with cast on minion death + frost bomb, bosses still took 5min at least

[stuck coyote]

That sounds like a build issue

I have no problems with bosses even after the nerfs

but my clear is dead

[wise falcon]

on frost i use a comet with echo + unlesh now, launch a x4 comet on any pack and they die

[rancid wind]

is there an item similar to Call of the Brotherhood but converts cold damage to lightning instead?

[sweet light]

anybody has an idea on how hexblast players deal with monsters that can't be cursed

[tender oasis]

yeah just stack multiple comets on one enemy yea

[fair axle]

Well whatever it was/is I need a completely new build now, I was looking into DD bleed proc.. but idk

[stuck coyote]

The fact that you can allow yourself to stand in place and cast Comet is interesting

[fair axle]

I got 1m gold so I can respec whole tree but i'm kinda lost now, I guess I'll wait a couple of days and see if there are any new ideas

[ebon relic]

Guys, will the support gems only affect the skills its socketed into or all the supported skills?

[tender oasis]

sounds like theres a defence issue

[wise falcon]

nova to freeze them, or ice wall

[stuck coyote]

My point stands

[tender oasis]

most sorc build went mom right?

[sacred sail]

not a lot of people like to self cast their own spell

[stuck coyote]

not necessarily

[sacred sail]

maybe you could go some comet ignite prolif stuff, idk if we have a way to convert cold to fire 🤔

I don't think we can yet

[stuck coyote]

They didn't touch comet

it still does massive damage

but you cannot really cast it through cast on X skills on white packs

[native burrow]

What on earth does Final cast of a spell mean

[sacred sail]

why not using another spell for clearing ? I think it's intended to have spells for different usage

as a warrior I stopped trying to slam my way through packs

[stuck coyote]

nothing else does damage

[sacred sail]

I keep dying because of casting time

[unique pecan]

am I crazy for thinking deadeye merc is better than actual merc?

[sonic peak]

Some support skills 'echoes'/repeats the skill

[stuck coyote]

other cold spells aren't capable of clearing white packs

[sacred sail]

I see :/

[broken valve]

I just streamed using CoF frost

its works fine

cleared all packs no comets without stopping

comets just nuke everything once per pack

[sonic peak]

After the nerf?

[broken valve]

yes

Im using it right now

you have to press more than one button

I use 4 skill rota on each pack

1-2 comets per pack

[sonic peak]

You're using sorc or invoker with the energy node?

[sacred sail]

I think people will prefer to die

xD

[broken valve]

sorc with one of the energy nodes

[pearl scroll]

exposures and curses stack with each other right?

[broken valve]

considering the second, but I dont think I really need it

comet is just a bonus on the white packs

and it works fine on bosses and elites because of how the nerf worked

[wise falcon]

i rush into a pack, 2 nova and they are frozen then i cast my x4 comet and they die , if there's a big mob i just ice wall to destroy the pack, easy

[broken valve]

I tried casting comet first. Its horrible

[sonic peak]

Issue is a lot of ppl rushed straight to the energy nodes ignoring everything else

[broken valve]

ranged enemies destroy you during the animation

[sonic peak]

Meaning comet was their only source of dmg

[broken valve]

yeah exactly

[neat laurel]

does projectile damage scale poison damage ?

[broken valve]

everyone so hung up on comet they forgot the build actually functions fine without it

[sonic peak]

Not me btw, but I have a few friends crying on our priv discord xD

[wise falcon]

my shield regen is really good i invested a lot into it

[sacred sail]

I want to play every classes

😭

[wise falcon]

next one to be nerf is ranger lightning arrow , so choose another for your next^^

[sacred sail]

I wouldn't play that, everyone plays it it's boring

[wide folio]

what does 130% pierce mean? 30% is wasted or 100% to pierce first target and 30% to pierce a secondary target?

[pearl sluice]

Max evasion is 75%?

[tender oasis]

act 2 armor bein good

[vale apex]

does this mean 25% more final ele dmg with attacks, or does this mean 25% more damage on the weapon's ele stats (so if the weapon only has physical damage, you get +0%?)

[tender oasis]

perfect strike still doing great

[sacred sail]

ngl playing my warrior it was so difficult to push trhough it, it's very fun now but it's difficult when you start the game

[sonic peak]

no idea, but if you got it already you can try slotting it in/out and check the dmg diff

[sacred sail]

I had to go 2 handed to have something called damage and any ability I wanted to build around felt really bad

[sonic peak]

should be reflected here

[orchid torrent]

so what are sorces playing now that on cast is bad

[uncut bay]

let's say I have 100% increased mana regeneration rate on my character and then I get the arcane surge, do I now have 120% increased mana regeneration or do I keep my 100% increased mana regen and it gets multiplied by 1,2?

[sonic peak]

there's like, a thousand other builds

archmage (mana stacking)

ice wall blasting

[orchid torrent]

press C an d check mana regeneration per second number (tho you cant trust the UI in this game too much, it doesnt report a lot of things)

[sacred sail]

also I think if not all your damage came from comet you could be fine

I heard that

[orchid torrent]

there's not a thousand builds lol, there's like 1 spell per 10-20 levels per element

[sonic peak]

the supports that consume/incr dmg from ailments with other elements (fire on frozen, etc)

[orchid torrent]

a thousand builds is so lol to say for this game

[broken valve]

frost

[sonic peak]

builds are not based on a single spell

and yes, there are not 1000 builds

[sacred sail]

you have gems also

[tribal moth]

hello, im looking for any non grenade merc build. cant find any. anyone know any?

[orchid torrent]

yeh but like a thousand builds? what do you count as a seperate build? all the same spells but one support gem changed from cast speed to effect duration is a seperate build?

[sonic peak]

congratulations for pointing out my hyperbole!

[orchid torrent]

there's not even like 5 builds per class

[sonic peak]

there are still like, at least 10 different builds

[uncut bay]

thanks!

[unkempt nexus]

anyone know where i can see the actual hp values of my minions?

[sacred sail]

if you are creativer you can make as many build as you want

not saying they'll be top tier

[sonic peak]

they won't deal as much dmg as CoC/CoF, but that's because it was broken

[orchid torrent]

I think if you expand the gem on the right (if you have it equiped) it says it

but again the tooltips dont account for a lot of things so cant trust them too much

[coarse shale]

Hey all, I'm trying a monk lightning build. I can purchase a crackling quarterstaff from the vendor (base lightning damage instead of physical), is it worth it?

[orchid torrent]

sadly the game is very incomplete (UI and skill-wise) and has very few accurate numbers for good build making

[strange ivy]

did gas grenade merc get hit by the latest patch ?

[unkempt nexus]

oh! sweet ty!

[sonic peak]

few patches ago

don't think they changed anything on yesterday's patch tho

[tender oasis]

wait does flask charge refill not activate if your flask is empty

[sacred sail]

as a warrior I'm quite jealous of sorc

they have so many support gems

[unkempt nexus]

im loving my infernalist witch so fkin much

[sacred sail]

nice ! my warrior feel amazing too now

[unkempt nexus]

nice, what kinda build?

[slender knoll]

Anyone in here going a lightning witch build and rolling infernalist?

[sacred sail]

regular slam that one shot boss/rare on stun but I clear with a movement ability now so it's really cool I run around and everything explodes

[unkempt nexus]

why infernalist?

[slender knoll]

Survivability

[unkempt nexus]

leap slam and sunder?

[unkempt nexus]

why not blood mage?

[smoky jolt]

Soooo... is the lightning sorc Spark build dead as well? Do we migrate to fire?

[sonic peak]

blood mage should indeed be better if your aim is survivability

you delay taking the first node

and get it when you get this as well

[slender knoll]

this is based off of PoE1 but I feel like later on in Ubers you'll struggle on blood

[sonic peak]

nah, you get blood when you crit as well

[mystic storm]

Can some one explain me what is a CRIT chance for unarmed skill? in skill descr. it says that crit chance is +9%
So +9% is base or +9% to something?
And is it possible to increase this +9% somehow?

[sonic peak]

on a cooldown I think, but still

[slender knoll]

I feel like Infernalist has better options for resistances and defences

still early

[unkempt nexus]

not...really.

[slender knoll]

just theory crafting

[sonic peak]

does she have anything other than the dog?

most infernalist stuff is glass canon

[scarlet oasis]

Is it true ranger also got nerfed from the herald skills?

[native burrow]

Thanks, so not very useful for me when i just want to make Contagion AoE bigger

[unkempt nexus]

you need a lot of specific stuff but i guess its possible, but the most of it would be the dog and the 25% hp reserve for more ES, though idk how you'd balance it all out?

[slender knoll]

I like idea of reserving 25% health to stack a ton of shield taking as many of the shield nodes you reasonably can

[tender oasis]

you cans also take 25% and get spirit

[slender knoll]

and the 20% shift in lightning and cold to 20% fire resistance

thats a lot of damage reduction

as well as 20% physical to chaos

[sonic peak]

eh, you won't be able to get a lot of maximum life, so it's not a lot of ES

[sacred sail]

Hammer of the gods and sunder. For clear I use stampede

[sonic peak]

since no life nodes on the tree

[slender knoll]

you dont get physical resistances as a caster usually

[sonic peak]

or well, few life nodes on the tree

there's like, this one

and another one I'm not finding right now

[unkempt nexus]

im building full armor and high hp with gear, but only taking the 25% reserve for spirit. the ES is just not worth it imo.

[scarlet oasis]

Is it true ranger also got nerfed from the herald skills?

[unborn birch]

lighting arrow and rod ranger, skill tree anyone?

[unkempt nexus]

so like, it's kinda either you build really high health or really high ES, cuz remember, you're cutting 25% of your max hp off.

[slender knoll]

I wish you could respec ascendancies like in the first game

I would really like to be able to theorycraft both builds

[unkempt nexus]

im sure they will change it back to poe 1 style, ngl.

[slender knoll]

without investing another 40hours

[sonic peak]

2nd run is way faster

[plain osprey]

does the explosion from Gas Arrow count as a triggered skill?

[slender knoll]

But as far as the build goes I am attempting to jam enki into 2 somehow

[mystic storm]

Can some one explain me what is a CRIT chance for unarmed skill? in skill descr. it says that crit chance is +9%
So +9% is base or +9% to something?
And is it possible to increase this +9% somehow?

[stuck widget]

Anyone know if regex works in the gem search to filter out "attack" gems?

[unkempt nexus]

100% agree. because you can get gear from trade. makes everything so much faster. lol

[tidal copper]

They stated they wanted it that way
I wouldn't bet on it

[slender knoll]

but instead of taking coc im taking cos

[unkempt nexus]

they also stated it wasnt 100% going to stay that way, they are listening to feedback and still need to talk about it.

[limber sedge]

is anyone using reaver minions in their build on maps?

[short palm]

is the witch a good starter class with good builds?

[slender knoll]

yesnt

the game just came out and you should really just read and try to build what you can right now

[sonic peak]

all classes have good builds
the only one you might struggle with is warrior, because the playstyle is way slower

and enemies are fast

[slender knoll]

guides wont be super reliable at the moment

a lot of things could change very suddenly and theres a lot of time for "aha" moments

[sacred sail]

Its fun to make your build !

[sonic peak]

yes, but they won't make classes completely unusable

[ripe anvil]

guys srs vs chaos dot build?

[sonic peak]

they might nerf 1 specific build, but all classes will still have good options

[slender knoll]

what

thats not what im saying

im saying as far as what people consider to be good or easy

[sacred sail]

You are supposed to expect the worst from poe dev around here for some reason what you doing

[slender knoll]

opinions on things will be very volatile and subject to change at the moment

[sonic peak]

good build = can get to endgame and progress through it by getting better gear IMO

[unkempt nexus]

it is, but the first few levels can be rough, but once you figure out something, it gets rolling. im having a blast rn

[short palm]

ok thanks!

I like how blood witch looks like

[slender knoll]

you can probably brute force a lot of content just by rolling +N level skill stats on weapons

[unkempt nexus]

got myself an enfolding dawn and oaksworn to start my witch, was a good investment, blasting through campaign.

[tidal copper]

Oh no

[potent swift]

Witch fine af tbh 😏

[short palm]

??

[tidal copper]

I was going to say the same thing if you said the other one lol

[sonic peak]

my man is hornying in build planning chat 😭

[unkempt nexus]

lolol

[sacred sail]

Nobody does that for the warrior

Racism

[sonic peak]

😔

[slender knoll]

Witch is definitely a lesbian anyway

she aint interested

[vale apex]

in general, is it better to go staff or wand+focus for the best damage? I'm guessing you can get more gem levels from wand+focus?

[sonic peak]

(that mascara tho 😭 )

[sacred sail]

Like every girl I like

[floral portal]

Just got the game and chose mercenary, where do I put my skill points into?

[unkempt nexus]

i love my shield.

[sacred sail]

You have enough damage with warrior one handed?

[unkempt nexus]

o: im a witch

[sacred sail]

U stole our Shield

Its for men

[unkempt nexus]

you hush your mouth.

[short palm]

sorry what do you mean? lol isn´t viable blood witch or what do you mean

[unkempt nexus]

my shield gives me more minions and proteccs me.

i love it.

[vale apex]

sorry is this a shitpost chat? where should I go if I have questions?

[slender knoll]

anyone vaal orb some crazy shit yet?

[fair notch]

hmm call of the brotherhood doesnt work on archmage lightning damage?

[slender knoll]

[raw radish]

Anyone know if damage from Raging Spirits contributes to Stun build up?

[sacred sail]

What do you want to Ask ?

[tiny gyro]

Question regarding leech - I can see only modifiers that read "physical damage leeched as mana". I'm wondering if I'm using a skill that converts 80% of phys to cold for example, would I then only leech 20% of the damage I deal with it?

[unkempt nexus]

i think both come equal at later levels? dunno

[broken valve]

Confirmed that the passive energy refund, and the support gem energy refund stack. Sometimes when my comet goes off, I start on 70% energy.

[uncut bay]

is this multiplicative or additive? in which damage bucket does it go?

[woven stone]

does this mean with Quality I would need to do more damage in order to ignite ...

this makes no sense.

[tidal copper]

I'm saying that I'm just messing with you

[slender knoll]

which part?

[tender oasis]

lol this improved my clear

[unkempt nexus]

it means that if the damage you deal exceeding the enemy's life is at least 0-2% , you ignite mobs around them.

[vale apex]

oh so we don't know what's the highest + levels each get?

[fair notch]

archmage is bugged to hell imo

[uncut bay]

spells gain 5% of damage as extra lightning damage

[uncut bay]

in what way?

[unkempt nexus]

i've seen a +6 staff so. idk what's the highest yet personally

[sonic peak]

no one knows how leech works
it's even a meme the devs consistently bring up that even them don't know how it works, and there's a single guy in GGG's basement that is responsible for all the leech stuff

[tender oasis]

its +7 on two handed weapons

[vale apex]

I've seen +7 staff

[slender knoll]

that should be 5% of whatever your damage roll is

[fair notch]

I find the lightning part doesnt shock, or doesnt shock nearly as well as it should, and the damage can't be converted

[vale apex]

but idk what's the highest on a wand + focus

[fair notch]

6

[sonic peak]

you eventually get a feeling of how much you need/don't need, but yeah, it's hard to give advice

[uncut bay]

sorry, what do you mean damage can't be converted? is the damage multiplicative with all of my damage or additive?

[stuck widget]

With stuff like lightning infusion, and innervate being locked to attacks.. how are you supposed to pump up a spell like arc? the best I can come up with is Unsleaed and controlled destruction with all the damage stuff I can in my skill tree. And it still feels just bad. I'm running Sroc/Chronomancer for slows and in act 1 of cruel.

The only time it feels good is if I'm trucking things 7 levels under me. And it feels abysmal on bosses. I have to rely on mana warp/2 seal arc for good damage, but that is soo slow.

[fair notch]

it's a flat value based on your existing damage, that can be scaled. if that's what you're asking.

[uncut bay]

let's say I have 1000 mana, that should be 20% extra damage, does it add up to all of my other damage modifiers or does it work on its own?

[scarlet oasis]

Is it true ranger also got nerfed from the herald skills?

[fair notch]

I just answered this

[uncut bay]

I still don't get it

[slender knoll]

okay

[uncut bay]

which damage?

[slender knoll]

your range

[vale apex]

well I just saw there's a +5 wand so gotta figure out if focus can get +3

[slender knoll]

if you can hit in a certain range

[uncut bay]

do you mean my final damage that hits the monster?

[slender knoll]

reading on the skill

thats a percentage of that range

[unkempt nexus]

ik for sure at least 2, idk if higher, can prolly check the trade website

[uncut bay]

so it's my final damage multiplied by 1,2?

[slender knoll]

sure that works too

[heavy cobalt]

Does the Witches bloodmage make me lose health equal to mana spent? im so confused why thats happening rn

[vale apex]

yeah if it doesn't get above +2 then it does look that they are equal in gem levels

thanks!

[unkempt nexus]

yes.

[fair notch]

you have 1000 cold damage, and 1000 mana, that means you get 800 lightning damage (with +2% from qual). That bonus damage can now be scaled with incremental modifiers. Same would happen if the base damage was instead 1000 lightning. get it`?

[wanton cove]

very cool crit monka, 8200 raw dps on act6

[raw radish]

Anyone know if damage from Raging Spirits contributes to Stun build up?

[sonic peak]

only phys dmg constributes to stun

[unkempt nexus]

i run arsonists , srs , hellhound and there's stun buildup, somewhere. dont ask me how xD

[warm egret]

How much evasion do I want post acrobatics for it to be "good"?

[distant glade]

Full crit in act 6 is definitely something

[harsh quarry]

yes they do phys dmg - you can toss in the support and it does buff their stun bu a lot

[sonic peak]

do you have 'added phys dmg' somewhere in your gear?

[bold herald]

Now we just need to somehow find the last 30% and we are back

[unkempt nexus]

no

[wraith fox]

Does the DPS calculation on the gem screen take into account additional projectiles? Because i have 2 bows rn, one has more dmg, but the other has 1 extra projectile. the dmg difference is 100 dps

[wanton cove]

yea adding last node for attack speed and then full into def nodes eva + es

[normal rampart]

Can someone link me the gem text for cast on minion death after the update?

[tender oasis]

i just crafted this thing

[mint glacier]

are chronomancers good? just got the game and checking what i wanna play

[unkempt nexus]

very noice

[sonic peak]

they're harder to build around

but still viable

[mint glacier]

what about the other sorcerer classes? the lighning one looks cool

[distant glade]

I wanna reroll but I can’t decide on deadeye or infernalist

[mint glacier]

im still kinda torn between witches, sorcs or mercs

[unkempt nexus]

depends what u wanna do / play

[sonic peak]

yeah, stormweaver is in general easier to build, since you only need to focus on crit

[mystic shard]

so this is just refund 3% max mana when you say, shoot spark or something right?

[mint glacier]

ohh icic

[mystic shard]

or arc or whatever

[sonic peak]

chronomancer would focus around skills with long cooldowns

stormweaver focus on elemental skills delaing crit (mainly lightning and ice skills)

[heady moon]

Since chain works on Bonestorm, shouldnt fork/pierce also work?

[mint glacier]

what about the witvhes or mercs? I heard like withces are bad or smth

[pearl sluice]

Does someone know (maybe tried it out) how Sunder's Consumes Fully Broken Armour on enemies to guarantee a Critical Hit work when you have skilled into Resolute Technique that removes Critical Hits?

[distant glade]

They’re both good

[sonic peak]

merc is pretty good as well
witch, uh, it depends

[rotund tartan]

is there any way to generate corpses? i use unearth + minions for clear and it works fine but when it comes to bossing there's never any corpses so I'm having to rely on chaos dot from contagion + ed + minions and its not nearly enough dps

[mint glacier]

why depends?

[distant glade]

You just don’t crit

[sonic peak]

bloodmage is kinda annoying because the first ascendancy you get is actually a downside

[rotund tartan]

is there no desecrate or desecrate alternative?

[sonic peak]

infernalist is based around being a glass canon in general, although a lot of ppl ignore the glass canon stuff to get weaker nodes

[distant glade]

Infernalist is pretty tanky

[pearl sluice]

But I still consume that broken armour and it gives no bonus?

[mint glacier]

So it’s good later on but not early?

[distant glade]

Wym

[sonic peak]

it isn't

[distant glade]

Oh I’m not sure lol but that sounds right

Ok

[sonic peak]

your tankiness is coming from other sources, not infernalist stuff (other than the dog)

[uncut bay]

it took me 5 minutes to understand this and what qual means, but yes, I get it now, thanks a lot 😄
does this also mean different types of damage multipliers are also multiplicative? so if I have on my items "20% increased spell damage" and also "20% increased lightning damage", does my overall damage get multiplied by 1.4 or 1.44?

[sonic peak]

but bloodmage has a node that is better than the dog, so

[sonic peak]

even later on you still need to focus on defenses, so uh, hard to say

[mint glacier]

So is bloodmage better?

[sonic peak]

anyway, all classes are viable, you can rly pick wathever you feel most like playing

[final coral]

Hi, can any of you please give some ideas of a potential build I could make after the sorc nerf? Something cheap, good and smooth and that does not require more than 10ex legit I haven't seen end game yet (it's my third time running the campaign w/o finishing it)

[sonic peak]

you also only need to choose an ascendancy in act 2

[mint glacier]

Mhmm icic I’ll research them more then maybe

Kinda just scared sometimes in the viability

[sonic peak]

by that time you should have an idea on what kind of skills you like/don't

[uncut bay]

haha welcome to the club. today i woke up and felt so devastated because i have used a comet on crit build. I switched back to archamge spark now, that's what i also recommend

[mint glacier]

True

[jade locust]

is leech fixed for blood mage now?

[mint glacier]

But starting class is big decision as well right? Cuz I don’t believe u can change classes

[uncut bay]

you can't change class

[sonic peak]

I've seen ppl using all ascendancies reaching endgame maps (maybe excluding warriors lol)

[sonic peak]

you can't, but levelling a 2nd character is much faster

[final coral]

apparently its expensive to make that switch

[sonic peak]

both because you have more knowledge, but also because you can re-use low level uniques you get on your 1st char

[mint glacier]

Oooohhh icic so it’s more just raise a bunch of characters to play

[uncut bay]

as of today...yes. thanks god I bought 2 lightning wands a while back

[stuck coyote]

It's like everyone is trying to make the switch lol

[pearl sluice]

anyone got a nice invoker build for monk? thank you

[final coral]

yea well i cant make that swap

my sorc cold has prob 5 to 7 ex invested

[uncut bay]

you can try cold snap on freeze maybe...

and kill regular mobs with some AOE

still use eye of winter vs bosses

[final coral]

that was literally my setup prior to the change ivve made today with comet 😄

[uncut bay]

yeah it sucks

[kind jetty]

wont that still charge rather slow anyway now?

[uncut bay]

I would fish for a lightning wand or staff

just refresh the page and look for a cheap one

[final coral]

good question

[clear sluice]

any suggestions for my act 3 gemling slammer?

[pearl sluice]

any way to give charged staff ridiculous duration

[spring jackal]

“5% of physical damage taken as damage of random element”

Is that calculated before or after armour mitigation?

[tame wyvern]

is this applied for the attack that heavily stuns the enemy in the first place?

[tender oasis]

no

[distant glade]

Anyone have any success with any poison builds ?

[mystic shard]

This is just regain 3% max mana a cast right? of any magic spell like shock or firebolt or frost nova right?

[atomic kindle]

is there a good way to curse yourself?

[atomic kindle]

invoke is a mechanic not cast

[mystic shard]

hmmm, from what a certain class or?

[atomic kindle]

why not hover invoke

[sonic peak]

I feel like if you go through the back you can get better stuff

[gusty barn]

does anyone know how I can get damage conversion? (apart from avatar of fire)

[clear sluice]

you are right

[sonic peak]

also easier to get these nodes

which are juicy

[spiral wedge]

so... for witch/sorc are there any cold skills worth using besides comet? everything seems to do bad damage and cast on freeze is worthless now

[atomic kindle]

thats one hell of a travel. maybe you might want some more cool stuff instead of 50% of the tree being str

[clear sluice]

i had mana issues so the right nodes for cost helped. ill redirect, sec

[atomic kindle]

support gems have some skill tree has some

[sonic peak]

I mean, he is taking the node that scales armor with STR, so I thought that's part of the plan xD

[round marten]

cast on freeze is terrible now?

[sonic peak]

dmg per str*

[bold zodiac]

Do you guys think gas arrow skeletal sniper infernalist is likely to get nerfed?

[gusty barn]

no, minions have shit ai

[vocal flare]

its not terrible, its removed from the game essentially

[lusty surge]

anyone has good build for monk T8+ maps?

[atomic kindle]

yah but like idk do you i spose just seems like a big waste to me

[gusty barn]

which support? I couldnt find any and typing convert on the tree only shows me avatar of fire?

[round marten]

yeah i just spammed iceball into a pack and got like 42% ebnergy xD

[bold zodiac]

Good to hear! It's seeming like a decent minimal button build xD

[vocal flare]

you can get those extra energy nodes.. iirc its 24% and use frostbolt instead of comet, and put comet on manual. But its still bad.

[warm kraken]

Any CoS monks? Hows it feeling didnt get to play after patch

[clear sluice]

updated version. im not sure i have 62 skillpoints but im around there anyway.

[gusty barn]

I have rerolled a witch 2 days ago (before nerfs) and Its very painful to play without SRS, compared to my deadeye. The deadeye needed a nerf, definitely, but summon based minions are pretty awful right now if you're not SRS.

[sonic peak]

is there any specific reason you're taking this btw

[bold zodiac]

Can deadeye achieve the same combo? Gas arrow with automatic ignites

[quartz plaza]

Anyone know why its saying i dont have enough spirit even though im 60/60?

[round marten]

well man.... this took all my motivation to play

[vocal flare]

where are the gem buffs? Seems half the skills are garbage now.

[broken valve]

You guys are idiots no offense

[bold zodiac]

I suspect buffs will come after nerfs settle in

[gusty barn]

no, but my witch has gas arrow + auto ignite and the damage is not even a fraction of what deadeye was. My deadeye melts bosses. Act 2 + with Rain of Arrow was a joke. The witch is still struggling in act 3. Heralds also made Deadeye Freeze and shock with Rain of arrow. which was 😻

[broken valve]

Im currently using it effectively and you think its basically removed from the game 😂

[clear sluice]

mana issues tbh. but i would prefer not to have them and im not sure what i could do to change them. And i cant recall if this cluster bricked my rotation or not. preferably i would discard both.

[bold zodiac]

Sweet, I'll put deadeye on my list if the witch falls apart then! I might be in a minority, but with it being early access I've expected dozens of changes and start overs, and I'm excited to keep starting over. Lmao

[clear sluice]

down to 50 points. enough room to wiggle

[round marten]

is there a way to see how much a full respecc would cost?

[sonic peak]

what gemling nodes do you plan to get?

[bold zodiac]

Too much

[sonic peak]

there's one that reduces cost

not sure if it's worth it, but it's an option

[bold zodiac]

It costs thousands per passive. At high level, 250k+

[sonic peak]

you could also go PoE1 mode xD

that pathing already grazes it

[gusty barn]

was* My deadeye right now is fucked. I'm trying to fix it after nerfs. My initial build idea was always to damage convert to cold/lightning and try to use spiral volley but i have not been able to find sources of converts. After the recent nerfs, the herald bug is gone so deadeye feels iffy. Boss damage is still massive but you're not freezing anymore so mapping and bossing feels less smooth

[weak grove]

Take the cost of a single respect and multiply it by the number of skill points

[clear sluice]

i was thinking about it but it would probably kill a gemling

[bold zodiac]

Fair enough! Thanks for that 🙂

[clear sluice]

maybe 2xvitality 2xclarity

😄

[sonic peak]

maybe blood magic + the cost one?

gemling cost one

[thin basin]

I tried, it felt like whenever i do that the bell was doing more damage so i kept it, seems decent enough for big bosses

[clear sluice]

oh let me look at that

[bold zodiac]

I'll be curious to see if there's any items to enable a str stacker blood mage caster

[sonic peak]

this one

[distant glade]

Is it worth taking both of these for infernalist?

[distant glade]

And then use like grim feast to overflow es

[clear sluice]

ah this will not work since im about to get my 2nd trial done and that is reserved for double support gems

[sonic peak]

it's behind the 10% quality, and shares a path with the +1 skill lvl, which are both... not that bad

[gusty barn]

btw, what's your setup for the Witch? I'm experimenting with mine but I'm struggling to get through the Dreadnaught in act 2. It feels like my minions just dont do enough damage and im constrantly roling for my life

[clear sluice]

but this is a good idea nontheless

[ionic smelt]

Hey guys, i'm planning to level up a Lightning Mercenary (Witchhunter), do you think this is viable ? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/sae0j037

[weak grove]

Honestly I would get the extra fire damage ascend node first

[sonic peak]

ah yeah

[clear sluice]

@sonic peak it all comes down to if i kill myself with blood magic or not. its just a test away after i repath

[sonic peak]

wait, are you getting this as well? might not need those +1 max res nodes I added to the tree

shares a path with the duplicate gem one

[slim zinc]

gotcha! ty

[bold zodiac]

I'm using scepter with warriors+meatshield and I have 4 skeletal archers with armor break and the +projectile supports.
I spam command gas arrow and as soon as the hell hound runs in there's an explosion and almost everything dies.

Passive tree is exclusive minion stuffs, no defence atm

[weak grove]

can boost that damage more with pain offering

[clear sluice]

im in act 3 so max res stuff dont apply. initially i am thinking about this

[gusty barn]

Yoink, mine now 🙂 I'll try this. I've been mixing up different minions and im also using arsonist (2x sniper, 2x warrior, 1xs arsonist), but i'll try to balls deep snipers. How many warriors are u using btw?

[clear sluice]

so in large, gemling doesnt apply much to what my current goal is which is a more optimized path from merc to slam

so far help is good tho thanks

[bold zodiac]

However many the scepter gives for free. All spirit goes to snipers so I can have more gas arrow casts

[bold zodiac]

I'm aiming for probably like 7-8 snipers. Enough to repeatedly cast gas arrow without cool down slowing me

[gusty barn]

perfect. i'll get rid of the extra skeletons from my gem and only use scepter. see how this works. The gas arrow combo is definitely the only fluid thing i've found from skelemancer... it's carrying the entire build on it's back. I think things will feel better when we have spectres (maybe)

[bold zodiac]

Armor break definitely helps! And i use bonestorm for extra damage on the side

[rotund tartan]

honestly i've not been able to get pure skelemancer to work

[naive pagoda]

is my hp just low as fuck or something cause i still get one shot in maps

[rotund tartan]

i HAVE to mix chaos dot via ED + contagion otherwise i get nowhere\

[clear sluice]

is there any non shield offhand item that could be good for a melee (non dual wield)

[thin basin]

@slim zinc peep this clip on a miniboss, after charged staff into mantra into bell he just melt idk

[gusty barn]

do u use a primary attack? Im basically spamming bone cage

[gusty barn]

yea it feels garbage. The lack of gems is making things really hard

[pearl sluice]

good way of making charged staff last longer after power charges have been considered?

[bold zodiac]

Currently using 2 buttons. Bonestorm occasionally, mostly just gas arrow command.

[thin basin]

Get more charges, get quality on the gem for 20%, use increased duration for another 40%

[bold zodiac]

So far everything has been super easy, but i have noticed that tight maps like dreadnought at a bit tougher due to minion collison. If the hell hound gets stuck behind archers it's a pain.

[pearl sluice]

thanks a ton!

[thin basin]

Also use the gem that let it not consume charges sometimes

[pearl sluice]

👍

i wish masterys were still a thing 😦

[gusty barn]

yes, dreadnaught is my current nightmare. I logged off last night and respecced a warrior cause i got fed up lol. Now i have a warrior mid act 1

[bold zodiac]

Only build that breezed through that map so far for me was cast on freeze cold snap 😅

[gusty barn]

yea my deadeye did it so easy i didnt even realise maps like these were supposed to be a challenge

[weak grove]

pain offering helps clear with minions, gives a nice damage spike.. Gem it out and grab the passive and you can get around a 80%+ boost

[clear sluice]

giants blood + minion sceptre offhand with cast on minion death could be a good passive trigger right?

[bold zodiac]

I'll try that!

[gusty barn]

i have pain offering but rarely use cause i didnt feel like i have enough minions to sacrifice in act 2. but now i have 4 archers i'll see how it feels

[bold zodiac]

With only 4 archers you have a brief downtime between gas arrows..maybe blast the gas arrows, use the pain offering and then get a buffed attack on respawn?

[weak grove]

sac the warriors if you can

[slim zinc]

Nice

[bold zodiac]

Or this

[woven stone]

Does anyone know when you unlock more Gem slots for your basic attack?

[severe drum]

I need some help why is 25% increase damage to near enemies not apply to the third hit of ice strike?

[hot meteor]

any recommended classes that were enjoyable like sorc before nerf? I'm kinda leaning towards witch/archer

[severe drum]

tooltip has it on regular attacks but not third attack

[weak grove]

warrior is pretty fun

[slim zinc]

PM'ed you with a question, if you got the time 🙂

[keen sparrow]

does this affect reload speed for crossbows?

[sonic shuttle]

Is cast on freeze even viable still, after the nerf?

[muted peak]

if you want to trigger every 10 packs of mobs , sure

[weak grove]

Not for clear but still good on rares and bosses

[sonic shuttle]

what do I do now, how do I change the build now

[sonic shuttle]

I will just cast the comet myself on boss

[clear sluice]

how many skill points do we have by around level 45. 44 + 10 ish?

[muted peak]

yeah, just manually cast everything on places you can handle till you farm enough to change build

wont take longer , maybe just 6h or something you lose

😂

[sonic shuttle]

Yeah, but what do I change the build to?

Move from ice build to something new completely

I mean this was my main clear, I cast ice nova, freeeze commets fall down and they are dead

[muted peak]

just try it out, just forget trigger skills for now.

[clear sluice]

is there anything on the tree that takes me into unstoppable from jugg poe 1 😄

[main tendon]

anyone got a good campaign blaster? cast on freeze is dead and im just gonna make a new exile

[sonic shuttle]

I have a same problem XD

[mint glacier]

are witches good?

[clear sluice]

those arent problems. act 1 melts if you have support gems.

[tidal copper]

Connor was playing warrior
And one shotting bosses with the hammer

[mint glacier]

I'm still stuck on like what type of class iwanna play

[weak grove]

Yes

[clear sluice]

the hammer has a 52 req

[mint glacier]

thank you

[flat timber]

Would temporal chains extend the duration of freeze and shock?

[clear sluice]

does aftershocks apply the skill including support gems?

i just read the tooltip it seems to be just the damage

[abstract mortar]

attack speed reduces fuse duration?

[sturdy glacier]

does anyone know if contagion works with bloodmage spell life leach after the update?

[vale heart]

does pierce and fork work together?

[loud kiln]

How much resistance mobs haves? there is a specific % for the silver/gold below the their HP bar?

[tidal copper]

Yes it does have offensive utility

[high relic]

which one should be better for mercenary? +4 lvl projectile skills or 85% phys damage?

[vale heart]

the increased level one will deal a lot more dmg since abilities scale hard with level

[high relic]

thanks!

[lilac lava]

Hello

[tidal copper]

Ele DMG is relevant in Merc isn't it?

[lilac lava]

are there unique flasks in poe2 ?

if i dont use mana flask, can i do something else with 2nd flask slot ?

[tidal copper]

According to PoE DB no unique flask
There are some mods that could help you I think?

[cedar karma]

So I was going to implement cast on shock into my galvanic shards merc build, but looks like any "cast on X" skill is bricked now and I should reroute huh?

[tacit hound]

has anyone tried leech post buff is it usable now?

[somber trail]

I need a Path of Exile 2 build with this vibe, what am I playing?

[tidal copper]

What

[somber trail]

Also the only minion ascendancy RN is Infernalist aye?

[rancid heron]

Hello I am full sending a monk daze phys build, all my passives are for atk speed, crit chance, crit dmg, and daze/stun buffs. Think it’ll work late game? I see every other monk going invoker and doing ele stuff but I went the other ascendancy. Starting act 3 now.

[wheat horizon]

does glaciation work with herald of ice

[high steppe]

Be a Witch Hunter and kill All ghosts

[maiden karma]

Warbringer, titan and gemling are very solid for minions

[tropic cave]

Anyone know if "Arrow Speed" works with rain of arrows?

[elder turret]

So.. any worthwhile builds for Bloodmage after dumb patch?

[sonic peak]

what skill do you plan on using

I'm not aware of any quarterstaff skills that would have good stun buildup, but I'm not playing monk

[thin basin]

When u run mom, is there anything that could dmg ur hp?

[strange ivy]

yes

[granite basin]

Any recommendations to non-poe1 vets wanting to play without a build guide? Feeling a bit lost on how to plan our builds

[strange ivy]

type in the search bar in the skilltree the thing u want

[reef valley]

Can you override annoints like in PoE1?

[waxen aspen]

do skills that do elemental dmg also crit or is it only physical dmg that crits

also whats a good defensive stat (energy shield,evade,armour,health) to invest in for a monk or do i just try to get everything to a good enough amount

[rocky elm]

does it also reduce mana cost of skills? 😄 because conservative casting says explicit: reduce mana cost of skills https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719647443150569515/1316770503947452497/image.png?ex=675c4198&is=675af018&hm=b1e60dff6873449eca52c33e18b6ac23f5f377680bf3d45ed139acf427e43c99&

[sonic peak]

choose 1-2 defensive layers (ES + Armor, Evasion + Block, etc)
choose 1 damage type you want to focus on (poison, ice, phys)
check in the tree if there are good pathing options that touch everything you choose + good stuff in general (resistances, movement speed, cast speed)

there's no life nodes in the tree, so you don't need to worry too much about that

[wheat heath]

whats are the best gems that scale with quality? i need to respec my gemling from minions

[slow mantle]

Anyone got “ Call of the Brotherhood Topaz Ring “ willing to trade?

[sonic peak]

also recommend checking skill and support gems in advance, some of them encourage mixing damage types
for example, there's one where you deal more ignite dmg if the enemy was frozen

[sonic peak]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/XKX8GBKuP

there's an official trading site

[tropic cave]

Is accuracy a dead trait?

[sonic peak]

mostly yeah

[waxen aspen]

what does accuracy even do

[sonic peak]

you get enough so that your hits don't miss, but usually you don't need a lot

[scarlet oasis]

Please help, how do warriors use 2h mace with shield equiped too

[tropic cave]

like im trying to find a quiver is it worthless to have it on it>?

[tawny flare]

Hey guys, so I’ve been playing a poison based ranger, I’ve realized that the poison skills for the last two tiers of gems are “coming soon” am I better off just using something else

[sonic peak]

you need this node

[clear sluice]

any idea whats the most potent melee skill for heavy stun buildup could be?

[sonic peak]

it's fine, even 'low level' skills are still viable

[scarlet oasis]

Thank you

[tropic cave]

@sonic peak Do you know if arrow speed works on rain of arrows?

[sonic peak]

through good use of support gems

[sonic peak]

wdym arrow speed

projectile speed?

[tropic cave]

No theres a quiver that has Arrow speed?

like im not sure wtf that mens lol

means

[sonic peak]

I... haven't seen that, so idk

there's attack speed

and projectile speed, afaik

[tawny flare]

I’ll use it till it rly falls off then, at my lvl, this posion is great!

[sonic peak]

crazy, haven't seen that in 1

[tropic cave]

Like is it just just projectile speed they just renamed lol

[sonic peak]

no idea what it does, but you can check the expanded skill stats menu and check if it changes any of the values

[topaz agate]

Is there any clear advice anywhere for which defence type each class/build should take (evasion, energy shield, armour, or hybrid of any pair)?

[sonic peak]

whatever you class has good nodes near the starting point

[rotund tartan]

not for poe2 i think. i'm following the same method I used for poe1 - "shop local" and pick the defensive nodes that just happen to be in your area of the tree

[topaz agate]

ah ok so the game sorta nudges you in that way. cheers

[sonic peak]

in general, INT focuses on ES, DEX focuses on evasion, STR focus on armor
if you plan on starting on INT and going to the DEX section of the tree for your dmg stuff, obvs it'll be hard to build around armor

[topaz agate]

will the other 6 classes start from different points or will they overlap with the current classes?

[rotund tartan]

you can pick anything you want, ultimately, its just a matter of how much you're willing to pay

[sonic peak]

with 'focuses on ES' I mean that there are good ES nodes near the starting zone*

[rotund tartan]

i.e i'm playing witch so I'm after ES and maybe some block chance if i can get to it

but i can go full life too i suppose

[hearty grotto]

do you need accuracy rating on srs?

[weak grove]

Mind over matter is also an option for witch

[sonic peak]

each base stat + mixes of them will have 2 classes
so: 2 pure STR (warrior, marauder), 2 STR/DEX (merc, duelist), 2 pure DEX (ranger, huntress), etc

[topaz agate]

gotcha, thanks!

[proper pagoda]

Is there a way to edit mobalytics builds on ur phone? Don't see an edit button

[sonic peak]

ah, and as of right now, only witch and sorc overlap their starting points, since they're both pure INT

[edgy dagger]

if I support a minion skill with Close Combat, which deals more damage to enemies the closer they are...is the proximity based on how close the enemy they are to me, or the minion with the gem?

[dawn bronze]

what did they do to cast on freeeze 😭

[sonic peak]

buffed for bosses, nerfed for packs

[errant storm]

is there a mana cap for archmage?

[sonic peak]

I think you can still use non-comet skills btw, since they don't require 100 energy to cast

[regal widget]

any one have a good chaos dmg build for infernalist with high demon form duration?

[sonic peak]

you mean a cap on how effective the dmg bonus is? I don't think so

[muted peak]

no, but they nerfed mana sources, you can get like 6k or something nowadays?

[dawn bronze]

well time to make a new character then

[sonic peak]

it's still viable

unless you went straight for energy nodes

[thorn abyss]

Has anyone attempted an ignite melee monk at all?

[sonic peak]

because mr. streamer told you to do so

[lyric kelp]

Hello,n has anyong can tell me if the witch is better for incinerate build ?

and if someone has already done a build about that ?

[errant storm]

i got 5.8k es was wonder if i go do elrich battery archmage will cap it

[dawn bronze]

nah it feels gutted

[sonic peak]

I think you're better off doing melee infernalist, no?
monk ascendancies have nothing that buffs fire dmg, and fire-related stuff is on the top-left side of the tree

[wary horizon]

I'm starting to feel like this channel is a honeytrap made by GGG so they can see waht people enjoy using and then nerf it

[stuck coyote]

or you know

people are looking for solutions

[muted peak]

dont forget you convert base es to mana

[sonic peak]

it is 100% fine
you can't make it your only source of dmg, since that was their intent with PoE2

[errant storm]

i got the everlasting amulet so i get some back

[sonic peak]

still useful for procing utility-related skills

[clear sluice]

Dont put too much thinking into the recent and upcoming changes to performance deltas. GGG wants to remove early binary choices because they hate binary dependencies.

[sonic peak]

yeah

[muted peak]

i mean you wont get +6k mana having 6k es

[sonic peak]

everyone was using comet because there was no reason to play other builds

[tiny urchin]

It’s very still viable, you just can’t hard lean into comet doing all the work

[stuck coyote]

You say that, meanwhile most sorc skills are garbage and/or feel bad to use

[wary horizon]

just make other builds more viable then

[stuck coyote]

^

[sonic peak]

they're already viable

[sonic peak]

wdym, sorc has some of the best interactions in the game

[tiny urchin]

Quite literally this, people act like the change is unexpected and that “build variety shouldn’t be suppressed” but that’s exactly cof comet was doing

[dawn bronze]

ye i guess ur right

[stuck coyote]

what other sorc builds are capable of pushing into high tier maps without mad gear investment, b/c you know, you need to get there to get proper currency

[clear sluice]

this is an opinion. speaking as a many year poe 1 melee builder i ugly cried happy tears when they removed melee totems.

[wary horizon]

i think you missed the word "more" in there

[dawn bronze]

literally scalling everything into ES+frost damage was kinda boring way to craft gear tbh

i passed all the cruels with cof with like lvl 20 gear

[tiny urchin]

It does suck but at the same time there was no reason to ever build anything except cof comet and that’s clearly all anyone was using

[sonic peak]

trigger comet was clearing mob packs much faster than they intended, and it sucked for bossing
the change made so it cleared packs in the same speed as other builds, and buffed it for bossing
I don't see the issue

[wary horizon]

there is no crafting in the game anyway

[dawn bronze]

yeah idk what class to make tho

[sonic peak]

like, the other option would be to make mobs way spongier

which would suck equally

[dawn bronze]

is tornado shot good/

?

[stuck coyote]

just nerf the damage on comet, make it split the damage between targets or something idk

[lapis cedar]

have u built my tree wrong

[stuck coyote]

why kill the damn interaction

[tiny urchin]

Cold crit casters are still pretty fun, and if you don’t have the setup for that then idk what class you’re on but there’s probably options there too

[lapis cedar]

using the grenades from merc

[sonic peak]

then comet wouldn't be useful as a standalone skill

again, the interaction isn't killed

[wary horizon]

Unless you are making something new fromk components, then it's not crafting. if you are taking an existing weapon and modding it then you are UPGRADING, not crafting

[stuck coyote]

For clear it is, which was it';s main use

[clear sluice]

class and ascendancy is flavour and variation. builds are skill oriented. just build a power fantasy. if it fails no big deal.

[sonic peak]

the reason comet sucks with Trigger on is because it requires more energy

[stuck coyote]

single target was never the problem

[sonic peak]

because of the cast time

you can still use trigger on skills with other skills with lesser cast time

and it works for pack clearing

[stuck coyote]

but which of them clear as well as comet? or nearly as well?

[tiny urchin]

It would make comet actually 100% useless and not solve the issue of cof being absolutely busted, people would just move over to other strong cast on x spells to replace it

[sonic peak]

none

[stuck coyote]

I tried everything else and it feels like hot garbage

[sonic peak]

because comet was not supposed to be used that way

[clear sluice]

in poe we are crafting with more or less determinism but always with a foundation in RNG. Any change to equippable gear is considered crafting

[tiny urchin]

Cold snap is decent substitution but it’s not really a clear more than it helps make up for the lost damage

[rancid heron]

Sorry I missed this comment, I'm using Wind Blast, has around 700% Daze buildup right now, so 1-2 hits dazes

[stuck coyote]

Clear is the issue though. I tried CS and it felt like ass even in t1 maps

[tiny urchin]

And honestly, do we really want the game’s meta to amount to “I cast a spell and now everything dies?”

[wary horizon]

GGG hates binary choices > makes a skill with a specific intent for binary use > people find a way to use it in a differennt, noin-binary way > ggg nerfs it to make it binary again

[stuck coyote]

It doesnt make sense that white packs are harder than rares or bosses

[sonic peak]

it is considered crafting
a bit different from other games, but adding/removing mods with essences/omens lets you get a lot of determinism

[clear sluice]

my brother is frost sorc and we havent reached comet yet. Any recommendations for a single target spell?

[stuck coyote]

frost wall

and frost bomb

[tiny urchin]

I mean they had all of Poe 1 to figure out that cast on trigger being too strong makes game variety suck

[clear sluice]

we like this one. any 3 good supports to go with it ?

[stuck coyote]

You can afford/get those? damn you are stacked

[sonic peak]

again, you can still use comet on trigger

it's good for bossing

[wary horizon]

If it's crafting then why do the ittem descriptions of the items you use to upgrade a weapon literally say UPGRADES or AUGMENTS (which by definition is another word for upgrade)

[tiny urchin]

Those are both very effective, I have no issue whatsoever

[stuck coyote]

Like

I can freeze with EoW/frost orbs on clear

[sonic peak]

bro stop trolling

[stuck coyote]

but it doesn't make sense that there is no payoff for that for clear

no shatter

no aoe

nothing

[clear sluice]

because arguing semantics doesnt change the outcome of this conversation or the crafts in the game 😄

[tiny urchin]

Cold snap cof if you want more payoff

[glad mason]

I recently got an enfolding dawn unique which gives 100 spirit. I'm thinking of restarting a new class, which class can benefit this unique the most?

[stuck coyote]

But it barely clears, you can't really consider it a payoff

[pearl sluice]

man, monk needs more access to cold, theres more stuff in favour of lightning, it feels constricting, mabye its only me who shares the opinion so sorry if i offended some people!

[wary horizon]

not my fault the general population cant understand basic definitions and terminology

[sonic peak]

witch minion-based build

or monk with triggers