2┃build-planning

[loud kiln]

Bro that's literally how it is stated in the game and the only iterations I found about physical dmg increases

[opaque umbra]

thats what i was going for, im so confused then, i cant stun anything right now, i did also ascended into titan and increased my stun build up and did my hits are now crushing blows, maybe thats it?

[loud kiln]

Literally copy it word by word

[silk juniper]

Does anyone know if deft increases dd dmg?

[silent talon]

Hi, did they address comet being 300energy yet?

[still rock]

It's dependent on the item and wording, not to be rude. As for iron ring, it is applied before the attack damage % calculation for your attack skill so it is applied before the conversion because it is added to your weapon's damage

[loud kiln]

And when it appears on armors and weapons? because its writed the same way

[loud kiln]

Except that it skips "to attacks"

[raw dawn]

all im sayin

[rich gull]

lol, hows cast-on-ignite looking with firewall, is it gutted too ?

[opaque umbra]

anything on this? i took of resulte technique and i still cant stun, i relogged too?

[loud kiln]

I don't have a gloves with physical dmg but I saw them showing the same that this ones does for fire / lightning. Those applies before the convertion too?

[crisp arrow]

Does Wildfire interact with Hell Hound?

[rich gull]

apparently CoC EotW+Comet still working if you have high enough crit

[still rock]

AFAIK yes, this makes you bypass the stun and go directly to heavy stun

[opaque umbra]

sooo then my bone shatter is useless now?

thats dumn

lol

[north horizon]

what area levels drop rank 7 skill gems?

[opaque umbra]

that was it, thank you

[still rock]

Those aren't phys so they do not get converted if the skill is converting physical to elemental, it just gets throughput into the attack dmg calculation as the element stated, but it is applied to your weapon dmg before the attack dmg % like iron ring does

[frosty harness]

Is it better to have flat #'s for a stat or %?

[loud kiln]

I literally explained that despite not having gloves that give physical dmg to take a ss, I saw them having the exact description than the ones I send, but for physical instead of ligthning/fire

But applying before the calculation gives me the answer, so thanks

[still rock]

yes, applied before just like iron ring and converted the same

[still rock]

Contextual

Rule of thumb:
low flat = add flat better
high flat = add % better

[frosty harness]

in relation to armour & evasion rating (merc and that's what I'm going for)

[loud kiln]

So I can assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, if the items say "Damage TO ATTACK", instead of just "To damage", then it applies to the weapon and thus it goes before the conversion?

[frosty harness]

ahhh gotcha

[still rock]

For the most part yeah

[loud kiln]

Ok, that works as a point of reference, thanks

[still rock]

May be outliers but that's a good rule of thumb

[placid adder]

So, my Weapon Set skillpoints for Set 1, and set 2, show 2 (6), but my overall skillpoitns are 0.
How do I know what WpnSet 1 is using compared to set 2? am I missing 2 points?

[loud kiln]

So on this crossbow, the 9-14 physical dmg goes after the convertion (adding 0 lightning dmg), and the +82% elemental dmg dosn't boost the converted since it goes before?

[crisp arrow]

For the Infernal Legion Support Gem, I'm assuming it's pointless to try to get more fire damage and just stack HP?

[still rock]

No, this is why the item is contextual because added dmg affixes on weapon are local, which only apply to your weapon damage

[loud kiln]

Aaaah perfect, that makes sense

[still rock]

But the increased elemental damage with attacks is after the attack dmg calc

I really wish they added wording to differentiate local mods lol

[loud kiln]

Yeah no joke

[still rock]

I've been saying it for years

just add "to this weapon" on this end of all local dmg mods

ez

[loud kiln]

So the extra elemental dmg affects the one coming from conversion?

Aplying as a multiplier to the final result

[still rock]

Example:
you have 100 physical damage and 10 lightning damage on your weapon and use a skill that converts 40% phys to lightning, then only 50 of that damage is affected by Ele dmg with atk

[quiet edge]

i think ive found the funny strat for whenever i find a boss in an enclosed area fireball with the tier 3 support to send 8 around you lmao

[loud kiln]

They could just specific "To damage" or "to weapon damage" since the weapon is the point of reference skill uses to calculate their dmg as a %

[still rock]

You get used to it so it's whatever but I want it for new players 🙂

[loud kiln]

Aight cool, thanks man, I read the wiki about conversion but it was still not clear

[still rock]

Cause it's not intuitive

Conversion works differently in poe2 so be careful

[loud kiln]

God damn it

[still rock]

just know that % increases to a damage type in poe2 only affect the end result of conversion (aside from the local dmg % on weapon)

thats it

much simpler

[gray hazel]

would it be worth having an elemental set and forget skill as a witch , something like solar or storm orb

[loud kiln]

Yeah got it

[still rock]

If you're using it in a way that adds damage or utility in some way then yes, espec for single target bossing where dps matters more than raw dmg

[feral halo]

does accuracy rating matter much?

[atomic kindle]

do you want to hit your enemys?

[gray hazel]

if that's the case probably gonna grab solar orb , since my hellhound already inflicts ignite

[atomic kindle]

its based of distance at 2m or less youre basically garenteed to hit, but if your playing ranger or merc thats ranged you need a decent amount of accuracy or you wont deal damage. not positive how it works with spells but im pretty sure they cant miss

[gray hazel]

might as well have a 2nd source for it

[still rock]

Ignite will just take the highest amt of ignite, which is based on the hit dmg, ignite doesnt stack inherently

just to be aware of

[gray hazel]

good to know

[still rock]

Not sure if there are sources of +stacks of ignite or not but baseline it's just one

[gray hazel]

not that worried tbh , i mostly just stack as much chaos as i can while doing poison + bleed using skeletal snipers

the ignite was mostly as a supplement by the hellhound and an extra source is more of a precaution since i do exploding gas

[tender oasis]

No ignite stacks i dont think

[radiant tree]

Frost sorceress is dead right

[tender oasis]

there is a chance to refesh ignite duration on crit tho

[sterile sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Kf8jwxFEA so in this build since it is based on cast on shockj lightnming did it get affected aswell by the new nerfs?

[opaque umbra]

know of anything that would make the warriors' skill "Bone Shatter" have a larger shockwave radius?

[flat rain]

Are these useful anywhere?

[north heath]

yes

[sterile sierra]

dammit

[deep olive]

Well, it takes any elemental damage and evenly splits into all 3, useful if you want to be able to apply all 3 corresponding ailments or apply exposure for all elements.

[opal frigate]

any warbringers out here? i really can't decide between titant and WB

[wheat horizon]

how does charged staff's damage scaling work, does it count as spell damage or does is scale off attack

[sly leaf]

I'm confused why people were saying Pyromantic Pact is bad, I have this ratio of HP / Shield, and 75% Fire res:

I only lose about 1/2 shield when I fill the suicide globe, so not even 1/4 of my total effective health

Doggo eats 20% of it as well

Which barely hurts it because it also has high Fire res

All I need to do is overcap Fire res and I will have infinite mana without mana regen 😛

[merry trail]

How's chayula monk with the leech buffs?

[sly leaf]

after blowing myself up

[merry trail]

Depends a lot on how much mana you're spending
I'm playing CoC with 2 lvl 16 gems and 83 fire res, I am still effectively degening

[sly leaf]

Yeah, it only did 1/5 of my effective HP in damage to me

I had to hold down my Curse button long enough to fill the suicide globe 3 times just to deplete my shield right now

[merry trail]

I also have the self ignite

[sly leaf]

Technically Offering costs more, but barely, Curse is my biggest spender generally

[gray hazel]

does pyromantic scale with mana amount or no

[frosty harness]

does increased skill speed only matter for magic users?

[sly leaf]

Yes, that is how you increase your cap, max mana

Mana regen / flask does nothing

[gray hazel]

nice

might get that next then tbh

[silent prawn]

what is the best spell for Ignite? Something like Fireball with Fork and ricochet?

[shrewd raptor]

i think the scariest thing about pyro pact is getting a bad overlap; ive died a couple times to mistiming a boss dodge and pyro pact triggering at the same time

[gray hazel]

i was gonna go demonic form first before

[sly leaf]

Increasing your cap also increases your "regen" since you regen 10% of your cap per second

[shrewd raptor]

Which could brick maps

But inf mana is fun

Too bad the mana pot slot is entirely useless

[sly leaf]

Well we know from PoE 1 that unique flasks will be a thing

I'm sure there will be one for the mana slot that lets us use it eventually

[gray hazel]

im still thinking if i should get it on my next set of ascendancy levels or is demonic form better

[sly leaf]

Whatever spell can do the single largest hit of damage, so probably something passing through a Flame Wall

[gray hazel]

idk , im primarily a chaos witch + minions and DOT

[sly leaf]

I'm a minion build so I don't really want Demonic form

[merry trail]

Comet

[flat rain]

Thanks, I noticed my dmg really got nerfed when I tried them out. Prob not worth it for what I'm running.

[shrewd raptor]

What’s your boss skill?

[gray hazel]

does it break anything?

[shrewd raptor]

I picked up demon form for bossing mainly

[gray hazel]

because spell damage really helps my chaos debuff DOT

[merry trail]

It removes wep and oh

[gray hazel]

right

nevermind then

i guess not

remove weapons is an instant no go lol

[merry trail]

It's nice for the mobility

[sly leaf]

Doggo (huge ignite) + Arsonists + Flame Wall + Raging Spirits + Offering + Flammability, same thing I do against anything

[shrewd raptor]

Not sure if it’s a good build, just trying stuff without guides/builds

[broken hemlock]

So, tempest flurry converts 60% of phys damage to lightning, does anyone have any idea how to convert the rest? Either to cold or lightning?

[merry trail]

I used it for a while with life on kill and it feels good but can't sustain it on bosses

[shrewd raptor]

Oh srs yee heard that’s kinda good lol

[gray hazel]

so pyromantic pact , altered flesh , beidat's will and seething flame in that order

at least i think i should be doing it in that order

[sly leaf]

Less that it breaks my build (though not having my skeleton warriors would break it), more that I would rather take survival enhancing things like Altered Flesh or minion enhancing things like Seething Body

[gray hazel]

true actually

[merry trail]

Capping chaos res is rly hard

[gray hazel]

pyromantic pact and altered flesh push me to grab fire resistance

[gray hazel]

capping chaos res?

[sly leaf]

From what I've heard end-game maps are full of one-shot monsters so I'm not touching the Beidat passives

[merry trail]

Beidat makes you take phys as chaos

[sly leaf]

I want my life and energy shield as high as possible

Altered Flesh makes you take 20% phys as Chaos

[gray hazel]

eugh

[sly leaf]

Pupperoni + Altered Flesh and no thank you Beidat passives, that is just me though

[fair pewter]

so i am playing a mercinary and want to go a grenade build but what do the weapon swap nodes do

[gray hazel]

i was thinking or grabbing bloodmage at one point

[robust storm]

just made from this from white, time to swap to fireball ig

[gray hazel]

but yeah , pupperino is very good

fuck it

pyro pact first

then i'll see how it goes

[merry trail]

@gray hazel do you have capped fire res

And some regen

[gray hazel]

no lol

i have some regen

but capped fire rez no

[merry trail]

Good luck

[gray hazel]

i know

[merry trail]

[sly leaf]

I have 1293 combined health + ES right now, my pup has this:

[peak drift]

so as a witch hunter with 3 links on most of my skills, I set it up as follows:
Explosive Grenade - scattershot, fire infusion, primal armament
Gas Grenade - Corrosion, Inspiration, fire penetration
Oil Grenade - persistence, strip away, maim
Flash Grenade - overpower, ruthless, magnified effect.

is this decent?

[sly leaf]

Also this:

[gray hazel]

which is why im still doing story lol

im not strong enough for trials of chaos easily yet

and i'll be holding off ascendency levels until get more fire res

[sly leaf]

My Flame Wall only does 429 dps, and says 68-103 Ignite dmg

"Ignite as if dealing 100-150 Fire dmg" it says

So pup is literally 10x that

[gray hazel]

lmao

tbh , wanna see if the next release ascendency is better than infernalist

and hope to god we can at least change once

[sly leaf]

pup also gets extra support slots without spending currency

[gray hazel]

yeah

tbh the only reason i can use ED as my basic attack is because i've got some really good mana regen lol

[pine sleet]

Does ignite benefit from damage penetration?

[bitter gull]

when guide recommend any +5 attribute, do i just select one that gives damage for the class?

[sly leaf]

Yes, it is Fire dmg so anything that reduces enemy resistance to Fire will increase Ignite dmg, that is usually the main way to increase it

Exposure, Curses, and Penetration

[gray hazel]

DOT is still affected by defense down or no

[sly leaf]

What is "defense down" ?

[silk smelt]

is CI+EB+MOM viable? and if it is, what happens in trial of sekhema?

[pine sleet]

Thank you

[sand warren]

should i run this or swap to a scepter with +4 or +5 level to minion skills?

[fast eagle]

attributes doesnt give dmg themselves only if the ability/ or skill tree scales from it but for the most part attributes are there for meeting your gem requirements

[bitter gull]

ok thanks

[near jewel]

Guys, do you think it is possible to play totems warbringer in maps? As what works in camp doesnt necesarily work in maps.

[gray hazel]

armor break sorry

too used to different terms lol

[fast eagle]

If you hover over them youll see that they give life/str, evasion rating/dex and Energy shield/int. In general you want to scale your main attribute depending on what you use and secondary to be str if its not primary since str gives bit of life and on the third one is to just meet support gem slot req

[steady berry]

is anyone playing gas arrow poison pathfinder? it feels really close to being strong but i just cant figure out how to maximize dps with how weirdly the skills work. i wish the chaos dmg bow base were less useless 😭

[sly leaf]

I think this would increase Bleed dmg since that is physical dot, but I haven't played it yet

[silk juniper]

Cant you use chaos bow base to stack wither as an off hand wep?

[gray hazel]

damn

[sly leaf]

Armour only reduces physical damage

[wintry knoll]

how do you see how much spell crit chance you have?

[steady berry]

its way easier to stack wither pretty much any other way

[silk juniper]

Really? I use dark effigy and that one is pretty slow

[sly leaf]

@still rock ahhhh I found it, a way to use corpse skills, you just have to be in Cruel 😛

[still rock]

I want to experiment with this and VD or DD but that's for another day I have a laundry list of things I want to theorycraft lol

[silk juniper]

I love sacrifice

My dd bloodmage is hitting hard

[still rock]

What minions are you using

for the dd

[steady berry]

i put the wither-on-hit support on toxic growth, it hits a bunch of times so it inflicts a ton of wither

[silk juniper]

Brute and cleric

Brute is a must

[silk juniper]

Ah that makes sense

[still rock]

Cool, I like it

[tepid wharf]

does damage increase effect poison damage? not a buff but like a node

[silk juniper]

My brute has 15k hp rn

Once I get better gems

I can push it to 30k

[near jewel]

Is anyone playing toten warbringer?

[steady berry]

im almost certain it does, eg projectile damage will affect gas arrow

[sly leaf]

I agree with Kripp that this is a problem:

[tepid wharf]

that's the "hit" part, surely projectile dmg doesn't effect poison

[silk juniper]

Dd breaks armour so fast

[steady berry]

Gas arrow says it "poisons as if hitting"

[rapid seal]

Guys is cast on freeze rip?

[shrewd raptor]

are weapon set points bugged for shapeshift forms?

[tepid wharf]

that's the initial hit, not the dot

[sly leaf]

I went through all of Act 3 up to being inside the city and didn't find any random drop support buff gem upgrades, this was from the bog witch guaranteed drop

[steady berry]

Gas arrow has no hit

[tepid wharf]

yes it does lmfao

[fervent lake]

Hey so since Demon Form witch got absolutely decimated by the nerf. Is it worth making a Ranger?? I am thinking about rerolling

[near jewel]

Anyone playing totems?

[sly leaf]

support gems too rare

[rapid seal]

Me

[steady berry]

Youre thinking of the other poison arrow skill

[sly leaf]

Doggo has your back, just go minion doggo build ❤️

[near jewel]

Totem warbringer.

[tepid wharf]

literally says attack damage undernearth cost

[silk juniper]

I think I had half a stash tab of support gems, I wish there were more options and I also only got 2 jewellers so I couldnt use too many supports

[steady berry]

Yes thats what it uses to calculate the poison damage

[tepid wharf]

poison is a global ailment it doesn't change from skill to skill other than magnitude buddy

[fervent lake]

I was bored of using me minions 😦 Ranger looks fun. Demon form was actually cool and had mobility but the Cast on... Nerfs are brutal. I understand them. But you can't nerf things and not make other things better.

[steady berry]

? It depends on the dmg of the initial hit

[sly leaf]

Sorry meant to say buff gems

[silk juniper]

Oh yeah those are kinda rare

[fickle idol]

Is it possible to do a balista totem build??

[maiden karma]

Whatever you do, for your own sake don't try poison

[near jewel]

How far r u, maps?

[tepid wharf]

well I stand corrected, well... that is wild though how did they change the formula from poe1 that much. The info says phyiscal + chaos only, where the hell does projectile dmg come in

[steady berry]

"Poison Cloud
Does not Hit, but Poisons enemies as though Hitting them"

[rich oasis]

no? ranger is gonna get nerfed too soon

[steady berry]

It uses a fake "hit" to calc poison dmg

[rich oasis]

especially lightning rod interaction

[rigid verge]

whats the best build on ranger now after the patch?

[steady berry]

Which uses your bow, which is a physical projectile attack

[maiden karma]

They really fucked poison

Only 2 guaranteed poison skills, and both use this stupid fake hit system

[rich oasis]

people don't understand that GGG wants boss fights to be 1-5 minutes lol

[rigid verge]

im fine with that

[steady berry]

It's really weird. I don't like that you're forced to scale physical and unless you're pathfinder it only makes sense to scale one huge hit

[rigid verge]

killing boss in 10 seconds is boring

[maiden karma]

And the opportunity cost to get 100% poison chance on anything else is just absurd

[steady berry]

I thoight mb the cultist bow base could roll imcreased chaos dmg or converted phys to chaos but no its just bad lol

[pulsar locust]

Like me, who used firewall + spark on act2 final boss for 15 minutes.
but i only died 2 times total, so thats at least something

[steady berry]

Well you can just slap envenom on snipe or anything else

[pulsar locust]

either way, i wanted to take a look at monk, i heard he is quite strong?

[maiden karma]

Cultis gas arrow explosions were good poison, but that got gutted

[pulsar locust]

Invoker anyway, chayula is borked

[uncut bay]

how do I now use comet with cast on crit?

[steady berry]

Chayula is probably okay now that leech is fixed afaik

[maiden karma]

Envenom is only 60%, the other 40% takes like 50 passive points to get

[rich oasis]

invoker is #1 or #2 if you don't count bugged skills right now

[rapid seal]

Act3 🤣

[steady berry]

It really doesn't and you don't need 100%

[pulsar locust]

really? damn
which is good, looks like a fun class

[rocky pilot]

Does anyone know if Sunder can shotgun with Upheaval?

[maiden karma]

It literally does, my lvl 50 PF I gave up on is entirely just pathing to poison nodes and just a couple projectile nodes along the way

[fervent lake]

Why is ranger going to get nerfed?

[maiden karma]

And not having 100% chance on something slow like snipe is just ridiculous

[near jewel]

Ppl say totems are bad. I am act 6 but i think in maps it will be bad.....maybe sb else could share sone thoughts pls....

[rich oasis]

i 3 shot act bosses. ggg doesn't want that bro

and that's without bug abusing

[rapid seal]

I saw it from ziz. I think a bit slower play style but its legit imo

[naive vigil]

How important do people feel it is to make builds around the class's default weapon? Looking at some of the ascendancy sub-classes, they didn't seem to be very (or at all) weapon specific, and there only seem to be a small number of weapon-specific passives. For example, what would stop one building a warrior around the staff and staff skills?

[pulsar locust]

that is a bit absurd tbf
~20 shots to kill sounds right for a strong build (on act final bosses)

[steady berry]

PF poison is different since you can apply 8 stacks, you probably just use any of the intrinsic poison skills for that

[fervent lake]

Well everything else got nerfed minus minions, blood mage and maybe merc? idk

[near jewel]

And how far was this ziz? How far advanced?

[maiden karma]

Poisonburst and gas arrow are insultingly bad

[rich oasis]

just 2 shot act 5 boss so idk

magnetic salvo still busted after nerf xD

lightning rod next

[steady berry]

Gas arrow feels okay, i dunno. Poisonburst might suck tho

[rapid seal]

U can check him on youtube zizaran. Hes like the poe guru 😅. Endgame pinacle boss

[fervent lake]

Are you using the ball lightning build

[rich oasis]

lightning rod +magnetic salvo which most are using anyway

[pulsar locust]

yeah i prefer not to take the blantely overpowered builds, i want something that is not going to get nerfed in a few days

[steady berry]

Gas arrow scattershot applies 8 stacks of poison instantly

[near jewel]

WHAT? So he played through maps, not campaigne ONLY????

[silk juniper]

Play bloodmage then, you are only going to get buffed

[weary fog]

Whats the mod called that lets you recover mana from life when drinking mana flasks?

[pulsar locust]

i learned my lesson from PoE1, and not going for just the busted builds

[silent stump]

iam trying get the more projactile damage but not sure if better go around this part of the tree cost 13 to avoid blur and flask nodes iam lvl 51 if anyone got bit input they can give me would help alot

[pulsar locust]

i had my fair share with a weak build also

[near jewel]

Which is why im playing totems 😔

[livid hamlet]

Like bloodmage is quite bad to my understanding right now right ?
I'm running witch with intent for blood mage and it kinda sucks that i can't play it

[rich oasis]

poe 1 nerfed after season end, here they do a random nerf everyday

[maiden karma]

8 stacks of weak poison, and no hit unless you detonate it, which is still fire and doesn't synergise with anything in your build

[rich oasis]

which makes sense anyway, it's EA

[livid hamlet]

cause it's now even a week into the EA

[silk juniper]

Well bad yes, unplayable no

[livid hamlet]

I heard that even with Life Leech you sometimes kill yourself

if you fight a chonky rare

[pulsar locust]

either way, monk also seems fun, so invoker it is

[livid hamlet]

cause of how little healing you actually have

or a boss

[silk juniper]

I dont kill myself because I only use 30 life to cast my spell

[steady berry]

It clears even magic packs in one application, but it does feel shit vs bosses which idk what to do about

[fervent lake]

apparently life leech bug is fixed

[livid hamlet]

they just said that life leech is buffed

[rich oasis]

apparently life leech from all sources was bugged and now it's fixed

surely it's good now

[fervent lake]

too bad you can't switch ascendancies

[steady berry]

Idk why you cant

[livid hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[silk juniper]

Just find a spell that doesnt cost mucu

Like dd since you only need a lvl 7 dd

[livid hamlet]

They want you to make multiple characters and interact with the game more

[rapid seal]

https://youtu.be/imweajn5QDs?si=6JjHF45RbPEOJGt1

[silk juniper]

Or another way to solve it

[steady berry]

Yes the good news is now that trigger gems are nerfed mana costs are way down

[sterile stone]

i tried making the totem build but it losing dmg so fast

im prolly doing something wrong

but idk where to scale it bcs it doesnt use our weapon

[sly leaf]

After picking up this cluster of nodes I can no longer kill myself by filling the suicide globe, my ES regen starts fast enough and refills fast enough that I can't make any damage stick

Every time I explode my ES is already full again

This might change when I have 6 links on something worth spamming, but I'll also have a lot more max mana by then, so it will take proportionally longer to fill the globe

[stuck coyote]

Did people come up with alternatives for sorc?

I want to play the game if possible

[rapid seal]

Scale is + to weapon skills

[rich oasis]

Who said you had to abuse cast on #

It works fine without

[toxic walrus]

Is there any website like Poe ninja ? But for poe2

[stuck coyote]

No one did. But it seemed like no1 did anything else that can clear and boss well

[unkempt nexus]

any fellow infernalist minion user here? trying to figure out if what im planning in my head (defense wise) is cooked(bad) or not. wanting to go with armor and high hp with a shield, instead of the typical ES route. since i wanna reset my hp for the extra spirit.

[sterile stone]

yeah but i only manage to use +2 for a long time and the dmg really falls appart quickly

are you familiar with the build? can you tell me how to level with it?

[covert moon]

hi, is there a way to convert physical damage to fire damage without avatar of fire ?

[rapid seal]

Well i am noob, but mv speed is s tier on boots. Promary stats should be + to melee skills.
Otherwise phys damage and resistance with health

[broken valve]

The build still works perfectly fine. People just don't want to actually think about how to build it. If you don't get a comet every frostbolt you cast its too hard 😂
I'm running along grouping each pack and dropping a comet on them with CoF no problems. Because of the way the changes work, bosses are almost unaffected. The build is still amazing. You just have to tweak a few things for more energy to make the trash clear work.

[rapid seal]

In the video u can see the passive points

[sterile stone]

idk i was stuck with the dps, and dont know how to scale it, bcs i wasnt dropping any + skills

[stuck coyote]

That sounds awful. You risk dying so much by doing this, especially in higher tier maps

[silk juniper]

no

[rapid seal]

Hey man total noob can i message you with some questions how to change stuff?

[broken valve]

by actually playing the game instead of just one buttoning frost bolt from a distance? yeah that can result in death 😂

It may not be the best build now, for sure, but it still works "fine"

[broken valve]

Sure, but may as well do it here. I just added all the + energy nodes, the energy refund node, and the % chance to energy refund support gem

I get 1-2 comets per pack

clear is mainly with ice bomb + ice wall + frost bolt + cold snap, the comets are just bonuses that melt the pack when they happen. bossing feels exactly the same, bosses drop very fast

[covert moon]

and another question, let's say I have +50% increased fire damage, an attack that deals 100 physical + 50 fire damage (because of partial conversion), and that attack states "+20% damage as extra fire damage", how much the extra fire damage will be ?
100 physical + (50 fire x 1.5), plus extra 175 x 0.2(20% extra) x 1.5(increased fire damage) ?
so 227.5 ?

[covert moon]

okay thanks

[grizzled geyser]

is it possible to scale lightning dmg via mana regen or energy shield? just a random idea i had

[broken valve]

I will definitely investigate other builds now, but anyone thinking their char is "bricked" or the build is "dead" is just wrong. It can be strong still.

[wintry knoll]

why do some items have a lot of affixes on them, but if I try to add another affix to like a magic item that only has 1 it says I can't put more affixes on it?

[silk juniper]

you need to regal it

to make it rare

magic items (blue) can ony have one suffix and one prefix, rare items(yellow) can have 3 suffix and 3 prefix

[wintry knoll]

thats not what I mean. some magic items just already have like 2 affixes. but if i try to put an additional affix on a magic item that only has one affix it says there is no room

[wintry knoll]

thats just not true and thats kind of the point of my question lol

[old shuttle]

tf is qualitry for lmao

[silk juniper]

I think the only magic item that I encountered like that was relics

[wintry knoll]

A merchant is selling this magic item rn with 3 affixes on it.

[silk juniper]

I couldnt add affixes to them

[sinful barn]

almost all the summoner build guides on YT suggest Infernalist. is there a summoner build for blood mage?

[silk juniper]

2*

[rapid seal]

Which passives u removed to get those?

[old shuttle]

hold left alt

its not 3, one of them is a hybrid

[wintry knoll]

but if i try to add an affix to a magic item that only has 1 it says i cant

[rapid seal]

I am using raxx build

[old shuttle]

3 lines =/= 3 modifiers

[broken valve]

I don't know I make my own builds. I removed mana regen though cause with less comets you dont need it as much

[wintry knoll]

holding alt does not show that. even if thats the case and it has 2 affixes, my question is still the same. why can some of them have two but I cant put another one on a magic item that only has 1

[crystal fable]

Anyone playing cold sorc that can help me out?

[old shuttle]

blues can have 2 modifiers

1 pre and 1 suffix

[broken valve]

yes, I'm only about 60 though

[old shuttle]

turning a white into a blue gives 1, upgrading it makes it to 2

[bold herald]

Any idea what to respec to from the cold sorc build? Just woke up to this bs

[broken valve]

don't its still fine

[crystal fable]

I am trying to figure out what I should change up skill wise to make this work well enough to farm some gold for a respec - i am only level 56. I was CoF but since the nerf I can barely kill anything to farm gold. Any tips on skills to use?

[brazen pebble]

by fine u mean clear went from 1s per pack to 10s ;p

[broken valve]

Scroll up like 10 lines

[brazen pebble]

its shit, im either rerolling or respecing but i need 38 points and its shitload of gold

[broken valve]

I'm still on about 2s per pack

cold bomb time = pack dead

[brazen pebble]

yeah, longer when mobs dont want to clump up

[crystal fable]

so do I swap my CoF comet to cold snap?

[distant yew]

just making sure, are you using orb of augmentation on the items that are already blue?

[silent prawn]

Seems deadeye is now the new king of flicker

[broken valve]

I run cold snap manually, still use CoF comet

I get a comet every pack, often 2

just spec further into energy

you don't get it easy now

it was a joke before

[crystal fable]

hmm not sure why im hardly getting any - thought i was fully spec'd into energy

[broken valve]

my rotation is cold bomb + storm orb for shock + ice wall to group them on bomb, maybe a frostbolt, they all freeze, I get a comet, dead, cold snap any stragglers

[inner bay]

is chilled applied by any cold damage?

[broken valve]

bossing is exactly the same as before, the nerf doesn't really affect it

[thick herald]

Any recommendations for ice sorc build after CoF nerf?

[broken valve]

with the energy refund node/support you often get half your energy back, that's what means I can get 2 comets per pack sometimes

[slim hawk]

Anyone know how much 6 meters is is the game? trying to find out how much my "precense" is on my minions

[broken valve]

you never even need 2 comets though, it should kill everything in 1 hit

[sinful barn]

I just looked up Reddit and it seems like the only advantage of Blood Mage as a summoner is the perma curse. Perhaps I am missing something?

[rapid seal]

Is the nerf, how much comets u get on freeze?

[silk juniper]

blood mage is not made for minions

I have minions rn as a bloodmage but I blow them up

[broken valve]

Just read up I answered this just there

[silk juniper]

idk if that counts as a minion build

[broken valve]

1 comet per pack, two sometimes

[neat laurel]

what does tier 2 mean in an unidentified item

[sinful barn]

by the mean blowing them up, you mean sacrifice?

[silk juniper]

yes dd sacrifice

[broken valve]

the build should instakill packs with ZERO comets, just with cold snap anyway

80% of the time my comets hit nothing cause pack is already dead

they just nuke the rares

[slim hawk]

Anyone know how much 6 meters is is the game? or even 1

[sinful barn]

then it's mandatory to go infernalist at current version.

I wanted to try chaos minion tho...

[silk juniper]

what chaos minion is there

[sinful barn]

skele archer

[rapid seal]

Thanks for help brother

[broken valve]

no worries

[rocky quarry]

Anyone play merc able to vc?
trying to build it - new to poe but not new to arpg. Seems like theres a lot i don't know

[silk juniper]

once spectres get added there should be infinite possibilities

[broken valve]

Oh you can also drop the ice wall minus HP from raxx build IMO. I use the wall to stay up for a couple seconds to keep the enemies on the frost bomb.

[near jewel]

this is the trial of chaos boss, but im wandering how far he went i9n maps actually?

[sinful barn]

ofc there would be

[vale heart]

What happens when a blood mage takes the passive that turns mana cost into health cost? Will a spell that previously cost 50 mana (and 50 life due to bloodmage) cost 100 life 0 mana, or 50 life 0 mana?

[rapid seal]

Watch the whole video he seems pretty okay with the build

[silk juniper]

100 life I am pretty sure

since the life cost is based on the base mana cost

not the converted

blood magic with bloodmage is pretty rough to sustain

[vale heart]

That's a lot of life cost then man might be suicide build

[silk juniper]

depends you can circumvent it in some funny ways

[vale heart]

Like how

[gritty marten]

So i have a build in mind. I have a chronomancer and i want to spam high cooldown, big damage stuff. Currently i'm all frost, but i kinda wanna use all the big hitters from fire and lightning too. Anyone got any tips? Lvl 50 rn.

[silk juniper]

my main spell is lvl 7 so it costs nothing, and implicit skills like chaos bolt from withered wand cost 0 mana by default

[swift ginkgo]

Whats the deal with this support skill? Why is it on Artillery Ballista but cant even be socketed apparently

[vale heart]

Ah I see

[wanton drift]

Im outside now, how much spirit and minion investment nodes you got into tree for decent DD minion sacrifice damage? The slow revive and clerics constantly dying made me give up the attempt

[near jewel]

I watched it all, well looks ok. he mentiones t1 maps only though.

[silk juniper]

my minions dont die

I kinda gave up on clerics

I only get them for bossing

[ashen mango]

Is there someone on who can answer a question? I don’t have a spare spirit gem and haven’t seen one in 2 acts to test a theory out.

[silk juniper]

my sceptre gives 100 spirit, cant afford a better one

you just need 200 spirit

[rapid seal]

Maybe ur gear not so good? How many + to melee skills u have?

[near jewel]

btw, I took armour break 2 ascendencies, but what about 3rd and 4th? do u have any ideas? these ancestral spirits....I dont know what they are for....sad

[wanton drift]

So just brutes only now? Brutes survive way longer than the tank skeles?

[silk juniper]

pretty sure that the brutes are the tank skeles

[wanton drift]

fml

[near jewel]

yeap, fixed it with 2 scepters with a total of +8 to melee

[rapid seal]

U need to pump those numbers up

[wanton drift]

On a warbringer now and ended up with just bonestorm, will test out sacrifice brutes when I get back

[silk juniper]

it is fun

I just need to up my own defense now

[wanton drift]

How fast are they reviving?

[rapid seal]

But yeah thats all i know. I think this build originally comes from poe1 so u can get some ideas from there

[ashen mango]

Ok nvm, I’ll ask in-game for help.

[wanton drift]

The chestpiece for 50% revival speed isnt worth 100 spirit

[silk juniper]

I havent ran out of them yet

you have to get really unlucky

[strange ivy]

so after the lastest patch, is cast on freeze comet sorc build still viable ?

[near jewel]

tis is why i started this build in the first place! i played totems chieftain loong ago!it was very strong!

[quasi flint]

What builds is witchhunter good for?

[wintry knoll]

too bad there are like 3 totems in the game :/

[wanton drift]

What map tier you at? My concern is the minion survivabilitt

[rapid seal]

Well tell me if u figure it out 😀

[silent prawn]

More or less. It is definitely slower now

[rapid seal]

I think its because of early access we dont get a lot of content

[sinful barn]

wut chest piece features max spirit? I shoul've known

[silk juniper]

ok I just found enemies that can dd my own minions because of sacrifice

maybe run 1 cleric at least

[strange ivy]

great and did gas grenade witchhunter nerfed as well ?

[wanton drift]

Yea I noticed lol

The clerics die way too fast for me

[ripe crane]

Does SHIELD BLOCK work like in PoE1 ?? Or I have to raise my shield to block???

[wanton drift]

Also zipping forward too fast the minions just despawn and gotta wait for respawn again

[lilac lava]

Hey guys, what do you think of life recoup in poe2 ? is it a good stats / node to get ?

[silk juniper]

you need the node that makes minions faster

so they keep up with you

[wanton drift]

Will check that out thanks

[azure junco]

what does ''demon form'' do for infernalist?

[silent stump]

yet to see good build around the demon form tbh

[surreal veldt]

Hey I’m heading to bed but there are a couple witch discussions.
Witch Tips for Dad Gamers
And
Full Minion Summoner Witch Build Help

You should join those as most of the talk there is about witch building

[unkempt nexus]

thanks!

[restive canyon]

Is this a good shield for minion witch? Don't know good shield stats

Does cooldown affect anything minion

[silk juniper]

minions have their own cd for their skills, but it affects the command skill

[mellow escarp]

What's the solution to stuns with MOM/CI/EB?

[restive canyon]

Woudnt even revive cooldown?

[stuck coyote]

I want to look into using Eye of winter for clear. Like pure Eye of winter, no cast on. What supports should I consider?

[crystal fable]

Does cast on freeze reliably proc cold snap?

[tender oasis]

thers an es/stun node

[silk juniper]

actually I think it does reduce revive cd

[mellow escarp]

Those still work after you convert ES to mana?

[silk juniper]

I have cd gems for my clerics

[tender oasis]

oh eb i forgot

[azure maple]

please someone explain WHEN i should ascend because i did THREE of those dogshit trials with zero reward

and the extra explenation eplains 0 from hotfix

[mellow escarp]

Yeah

[tender oasis]

oh sice your ci your always on fulllife

there is stun reduction on full life

[late blaze]

anyone can help with some questions i have? Sorry for wall of text

1. Eldritch Battery (EB) + Mind Over Matter (MoM) + Altered Flesh (AF)

Given that altered flesh takes 20% physical damage as chaos damage, since EB changes Energy Shield (ES) to Mana and MoM makes it such that all damage is taken from Mana before Life, I assume chaos damage will not deal double damage to my Mana since its not ES anymore?

2. EB + Nodes that give +x% ES

Can i assume those nodes will still contribute to my ES pool and are converted to Mana? All other ES interactions will not longer work though? (e.g. ES recharge rate)

3. Items with ES and/or +%ES affixes with EB

Will these add on to ES and be converted to Mana via EB?

4. Items/Nodes with Mana Regeneration Rate

These will scale off the total Mana pool from EB? Or its base mana values before EB? I assume its the former?

[strong apex]

for sorc, is it wand better than staff?..and i saw people using something that looks like shield,, isnt not shield right?

[rancid cipher]

Could you explain what happened to it? I really wanted to make a build that used it, seeing people say it was nerfed but not how.

[cold jacinth]

question do you guys think the reality rending node on chaos monk ascendancy would interact with bone storm?

[orchid torrent]

so with cast on nerfed, I literalyl dont see another otpion for sorc from spirit 2 gems? there's no alternatives. Are people just using rank 1 spells all game now as sorc?

I dont get why they'd give no options

[drifting burrow]

I'm like, middle of act 2, running shield warrior (basically magma barrier, resonant shield, infernal cry and boneshatter/perfect strike) but I feel like I screwed my passive tree cuz I'm really struggling even tho the skills are fun. Anyone know what passives I'd want to focus on for this kind of shield tank build?

[tender oasis]

hows your block chance

[drifting burrow]

I don't need block chance because I'm actively blocking to proc magma barrier

[vernal falcon]

Hey I'm not at my computer but I have a dumb idea. Anyone able to send a screenshot of cast on critical? Level 13 pref but anything works

[last stream]

From what I understand, if you have %increased ES mods, these do not apply if you convert the ES to say mana via EB.
That is intended.

One interaction that seems unintended however, is that if you convert other things into ES (for example Life into ES via Atziris Disdain), that ES does not get converted into Mana via EB, which is strange.

[tiny urchin]

Does anybody know if "x% damage bonus to frozen enemies" still applies to the damage on cold snap?

It's unclear if they still count as frozen for the purposes of cold snap damage

[dusk heart]

Does anyone have any fun build to recommend that's somewhat strong and fun to play? Have gotten 2 of my characters bricked already and don't have a lot of time to play so kinda feels like a gut punch every time I have to start over

[azure maple]

witch infernalist

[dusk heart]

I'd prefer to play myself rather than letting minions do everything while I afk xd

[late blaze]

i see, thanks for help! really helps to clear my theorycrafting

[ashen mango]

Is there an item that converts fire damage to lightning or the other way around?

[late blaze]

you can't, you have to run/roll around alot else you die... minion builds tend to be less bursty in damage

[azure maple]

electricity sorc or blood mage crit?

blood mage crit takes some getting to

[bold herald]

Just tried it out, specced into all of the meta + energy gain passive points and it is just horrible. Huge cope if you think it's fine

[livid hamlet]

I mean you can just specc out of meta + energy gain passives

and into crit and cold

and be a regular cold caster like the trio ( God, Chris and Jonathan ) intended

[cinder river]

How do i link Cast on shock to a skill?

[livid hamlet]

You socket in cast on shock

and then in the supports put in the skill

[bold herald]

I think I gotta

[tiny urchin]

My crit and cold blood mage is fine still, would def build differently but the base idea is still there

[vernal iron]

they nerf CoF so badly that they actually killed it, any viable build for stormweaver please ?

[cursive maple]

Has anyone tried either of these builds (Life Stacker Infernalist and FrostFerno Witch Hunter) and would like to give feedback? I’m interested in both of them but I don’t have the time investment available to try out both builds. Which one would you guys recommend?

[bold herald]

Can you share?

Pretty please

[old kayak]

What tier of stat is better on items ? The lower the better or the higher the better ?

[sterile kayak]

Higher

Wait, well it's higher on PoE trade - I presume it's the same ingame

(Which is odd, because I thought it was the opposite in PoE 1, but it's been a while)

[reef imp]

Is build auras possible in poe2?

[blissful pecan]

how do i get these runes? the give +60% elemental damage combined

[jaunty bobcat]

go cast on minion death

fireflower amulet -> cod -> comet

[wheat wyvern]

Frost Wall + Fire Ball + Cast on Freeze Comet? How do you beat bosses?

[cold jacinth]

Does taking chaos nodes on the tree scale the damage as chaos nodes stuff the chaos monk gives you?

[eternal wedge]

Is it good to stack as much penetration as possible? Does that go minus res for enemy?

[topaz talon]

Why cant I generate frenzy with Storm Wave anymore?

[sharp yacht]

Guys is there no meaning to weapon level requirement at all? I see 2 unique with exactly the same stats but much different level requirements.

[tiny urchin]

Frost wall fireball cast on freeze cold snap w/ blueflame bracers. So far it's been clearing almost everything act 1 cruel easily, maybe that'll change into endgame but so far it feels only slightly worse than comet. Once I get more spirit in act 3 cruel I'll be using cast on crit comet, cast on freeze cold snap and blasphemy temporal chains

[orchid torrent]

so is everyone on sorc now just spamming the same rank 1 spell? There's no options for spirit gem rank 2 without cast on

it's crazy how little build variety this game has :/

[lethal pawn]

how the hell do i trigger lingering illusion cas when i dodge nothing happens

[silk juniper]

????

[orchid torrent]

look e.g. at sorc spirit tree - you have one option every 20 levels - not even multiple to pick from, based on your element. And now even that whole class of options is useless. There's no real options to pick from

[wicked raft]

its early access, cut GGG some slack - the amount of contents they pushed out in this little beta has already outdone what diablo edged us for decades

[orchid torrent]

yeh you can look at other classes, but if you are sorc none of them are good for you either

[orchid torrent]

I mean the design and feeling of the game is great, but the rpg builds part is so bad

[wicked raft]

they havent even released the other classes and full ascendancies yet

and if you havent been playing poe 1, it was a bloat of skills compared to poe 2

[orchid torrent]

yes but the classes they have released have so few options. You are pigenholed into spamming rank 1 spell all game

[wheat wyvern]

I hard stuck in Act 3 - felt so slow, so weak.
Just transitioned into 400BC.

I cannot use cast on freeze yet. Any suggestion?
Only Frost Wall + Fire Wall + Frost Tomb

[orchid torrent]

these are all the spirit gem 2 options my class can pick - only 'cast on' and that's now useless after nerf

and even then there's no point as an ice sorc to even test the other ones, even if they werent nerfed

it's just so bad

[wicked raft]

click all gems and get creative

[orchid torrent]

this is all gems..

[wicked raft]

actually if youre this salty just hop on poe 1 lol

[idle glen]

Y’all sad bru my sorc build fine

[orchid torrent]

I dont want to play poe1 tho, as far as I saw from friends in that game they'd just turn off their brain completely and just walk through screens with everything dying

in this game it was cool there was a challenge, it's just lame there's like no options for build building, especially after nerfs

[rough kelp]

wym

[orchid torrent]

you can make some just fine rank 1 spell spam and that's it

[rough kelp]

theres 1500 nodes make your own build homie

[idle glen]

Relying on 1 skill is insane. Ain’t no way 1 skill is about to define my entire build

[bold herald]

thats just the early access mate, all will be better

[rough kelp]

its EA stop following meta builds and make yo own

[orchid torrent]

I have made my own, I want to be making my own, it's just lame there's no otpions

oh wow which option can I pick out of these as an ice sorc, so many options

[tiny urchin]

Honestly my frost wall+fireball cleared act 3 easy, everything just got deleted from it alone with occasional ice bombs on bosses. It could be an equipment or passive issue, which are both easy to solve. If the equipment needs improvement you can improve it via trading (many people are underpricing some very good items right now) and blueflame bracers are practically essential for the build I'm running (which also are super underpriced at just 1 exalt), and passives are just respecing.

[idle glen]

There’s no options cause you don’t want to find them

[wicked raft]

yeah im done arguing with narrowminded ppl

[gilded shoal]

Cast on ignite is now utterly useless and i just spend all my gold to respecc into building for it yesterday >.<

[rough kelp]

you dont need spirit gems to make a build tho

[fathom lantern]

Guys are there options to enable ele attack leech?

[idle glen]

Let me ask you why you did that?

[fathom lantern]

I've only seen phys leech

[orchid torrent]

yeh you can make a build that just spams the same rank 1-2 basic spells and clear. that's fine but so simplistic

[idle glen]

What made you completely respec for that

[rough kelp]

legit the only spirit gem am using is grim remnant

[gilded shoal]

because i was weak and it was strong and fun and now im weak again because i didnt expect such a massive change to happen the following day?

[tiny urchin]

Blasphemy chains, blasphemy+elemental resistance, minion death for summoners, cast on x for basically anything, probably more at least and that's only for casters

There's options if you're willing to look for options that aren't just "big damage make neuron activation"

[dreamy mulch]

There also isn’t meant for you to have a new option each tier lol

Like it’s nice if it happens but unrealistic to think you can fit every build niche

[gusty bone]

Is there any skill that restores ES?

[orchid torrent]

maybe you didnt hear? cast on X is the only option and now nerfed. And if you are not going minions there's nothing else as a sorc

[tiny urchin]

Cast on x is certainly not the only option

[orchid torrent]

not to even go into build respec being so expensive to even play around with

[orchid torrent]

these are all the options my class can pick from

[tiny urchin]

There's like 8 other tabs, do secondary quarterstaff and spam bell or something :/

You're saying there's only one because you're unwilling to look elsewhere

[orchid torrent]

I mean yeh I can go play a different class, I did say as a sorc before that tho

[tiny urchin]

You literally don't need to be the class to take spirit passives of other classes

You just need to meet the skill requirements

You have like 50 options, you're just not bothering to look at them

[wheat wyvern]

Is blueflame that essential? Oh combined with Cold damage converted to Fire damage?
Any guide on the passives? I need it badly. Not sure what to prioritize there.

[orchid torrent]

sure I can build a different class while being my class. But if I respec to full melee, and different weapon type (not to say that my ascendancy is meh with it) it's basically just being that different class

[tiny urchin]

It's not needed, but it's a huge difference because you can take anything that increases fire damage in any way and convert it to cold, and it means every firebolt causes freeze buildup instead of ignite

[tiny urchin]

Literally just offhand the weapon, you have 2 weapon slots for a reason

Use a staff in main and a quarterstaff in off, build combo and then use quarterstaff to drop a bell and spam it

[valid crow]

is cold sorcereress build still viable with the new patch update? im on act 2 rn

[tiny urchin]

That's just one example, you're just unwilling to be creative

[wheat wyvern]

Cool - if you have any guide on passives, I am all ears.

[tiny urchin]

It's still good enough. Less spammable and with weaknesses, but decent

[tiny urchin]

Sadly not really much to say for sorce as a blood mage. However, search pretty much anything crit/cold/freeze buildup on the tree and those'll be your main targets

The +block on the outer edges is also nice if you can get to it

[wheat wyvern]

Ignite in that sence is not needed?

Still below level 50, not much.
I might rush the -60% ice crystall life

[valid crow]

ok good i didnt wanted to regret doing a ice free build

[tiny urchin]

The bracers will make firebolt do freeze buildup instead, and most of your damage is the ice walls rather than the firebolts

As for the walls, yeah you'll definitely want both ice crystal life and icicle support gem first because that's the only way you can delete all your walls. You'll also want to have spell cascade on your ice walls to make more of them quickly

[fast harbor]

Can anyone tell me if the ice mage build with comet is still good after the Patch?

[fossil wren]

Literally useless

[tiny urchin]

Ice mage still works, but things will need moved around. If you hard-leaned comet cast on freeze, you'll want to use a less-expensive spell in the place of comet or lean to hard-casting with blasphemy cold aura

Or a lot of energy buildup

[mild flower]

i cant play anymore with cold chronomancer build, cof update kill that. which build i can play with chronomancer? do you know any?

[fast harbor]

Damm it

[tiny urchin]

I hear sunder is performing very well, maybe go melee and find a way to abuse the cd reset on time stop

[iron carbon]

Guys. Playing monk. I find that executing skill that collect charges very annoying to use. Most of the time the enemies are just dead before I collect charges.

Is there any way to collect charges automatically, or on enemy death, or even charges that generate automatically ?

[livid hamlet]

You can still play that

just not as a CoF

frostwall is still pretty strong

overall frost skills are still good

[mild flower]

bossing is ok but clearing is too hard and slow

[hexed swallow]

just use blasphemy with the aura of ur choice and call it a day

[elfin aurora]

im playing gas arrow flame wall it works great levelling bosses are rough tho

[livid hamlet]

If you expect PoE1 clear speed here you will be dissapointed.
They were pretty clear in the fact that they don't want this to happen at least that early

[tiny urchin]

The one positive there is from everyone rage-rebuilding for me is that my build is almost guaranteed to never get hit now even though they do just fine lol

[livid hamlet]

CoF was the outlier, if you want to a comparably strong build

your next build will just get hit in the face again

[mortal zodiac]

for lightning arrow is 60% of the dmg still physical?

[livid hamlet]

Going for the second strongest build right after the first was destroyed is just playing first strongest build again

you will jsut end up in the same place where you were before

[tiny urchin]

I think people need to stop building meta and literally just have fun building your own build

[sly leaf]

Does this mean 2 of your hits with Ember Fusillade will do 50% dmg after consuming the Unleash stacks?

[livid hamlet]

if you want this to be a power fantasy like poe1, than it won't be

you will have poe1 for that

if you want ot build some your own build or something

than good luck

but looking for the strongest build during EA

willl always end up the same

[mild flower]

chronomancer builds are nowhere near to strongest builds

[round vector]

Is there anything you can reroll to on sorc now? On the cheap obv

[livid hamlet]

chronomancer is a very strong class

which can be used in multiple different ways

[mild flower]

there is only 5 chronomancer in top 1000

[livid hamlet]

with very strong defensive passives

[tender oasis]

melee lets me appriciated the combo system

[livid hamlet]

and decent abilities to manage your resources

[tiny urchin]

I think there's genuine potential for a melee build to abuse the cd reset on time stop with the hard-hitting melee skills. I don't think it's weak, just that people all go for the blatantly-abusable stuff like CoF and gas merc before getting creative

[sly leaf]

its week 1, people haven't figured everything out yet, a lot of those 1000 are just copying each other when they see something that works

[orchid torrent]

oh wow a ton of options then

[tiny urchin]

No, only spell duration. Doesn't change freeze duration

[tender oasis]

hammer of the gods chrono is still funny to me

[livid hamlet]

Hell even grenadier chronomancer is pretty good

you just need to path a little worse

but you have great mana and CD managent tools

and can sppawn like 30 grenades in 3 seconds

[tiny urchin]

That would be good too. The problem is that people aren't willing to be creative over the cookie-cutter meta-of-the-day option

[mild flower]

true but it mean even if there is some strong builds with chronomancer they didnt found it yet

[livid hamlet]

Just because they aren't the fastest in clearing

doesn't mean they are not strong

[robust tangle]

Any ideas on how to salvage a level 70 cast on freeze chronomancer with no gold and 4 exalted orbs?

[tiny urchin]

It's the first week, top 1000 is the set of most no-life people rather than the best players

Being jobless doesn't make you good

[livid hamlet]

it will always be

people treat that like some god given rule of the universe

[hexed swallow]

u said u had no options and now im telling u ,u have more than one since u can build blasphemy a bit defferent for each curse and u still dont like it, cba man its week1 of a 6month-1year early access bro just give it some time

[still bronze]

Anyone using boneshatter build? I have an issue where mobs are stunned too quickly, so don't get primed.

[livid hamlet]

where all it says is which ascendancy is the fastest and most common among multiple hour gamers

[sly leaf]

I don't think Chrono is as sexy as the other builds, playing around cooldowns is kind of the opposite of what most people expect going into PoE so I'm not surprised it isn't popular

[orchid torrent]

having one thing to pick isn't options tho, it's just pigenholed into a single thing. the build diversity is lower than that of a lol character

[tiny urchin]

Well yes, but also there's no time to let things settle down yet. They'll still be the people with the most free time, but they'll also have more people who actually know what they're doing rather than the most no-life bunch of players who can clear endgame the fastest

[livid hamlet]

Oh definitely

they don't ignore resistances

unless you're invoker

[sly leaf]

Ailments are caused by damage so the more damage you do, the higher chance of applying status is my understanding

[livid hamlet]

and they can cause ailments but are not guaranteed to do so

[rugged fox]

any1 have recommendations for supports in heralds instead of the infusion gems?

[livid hamlet]

but since ailments now scale of the size of the hit

[tiny urchin]

There's still plenty of other options besides cast on x, which you could be finding if you looked for them instead of coming here to complain about a nerf...

[livid hamlet]

they have increased chance of spawning it

[livid hamlet]

it's absolutely not pidgeon holded into one thing

[tiny urchin]

More damage means more freeze buildup, so in the end it effectively does mean that

[sly leaf]

By default yes since they'd do more damage

[livid hamlet]

one of the main chatters here, Byron already plans to play chronomancer as a grenadier

using the rewind to manage mana costs

and other nodes to manage cooldowns

You can use it with Hammer of Gods for some nasty double or even triple casts of a very strong skill

[tiny urchin]

I was considering something similar into melee, but then went into cold caster because it just seemed more fun to delete screens XD

Hammer of gods and sunder were the 2 I was looking at

[livid hamlet]

For Sunder i would go gemling legionare

Giants blood

[rough kelp]

anyone here playing phys crit spell?

[livid hamlet]

and have +13 to sunder level

[livid hamlet]

i intend to

but i didn't get there yet

[vernal iron]

bro they completely killed CoF now i dont have enough gold to change build, do i just make a new character and grind again ffs

[tiny urchin]

Fair, I didn't really look too far into it so I don't know how effective it would be lol

[rough kelp]

What spell you gonna focus on? bonestorm?

[livid hamlet]

supposedly using your minions as a resource is the key for Phys spells

[livid hamlet]

probably yeah

[tiny urchin]

Are you a freeze build or a something-else with little investment into cold?

[livid hamlet]

but you also will need minion pact and corpse explode

to have things feel smooth

so it's not pure phys witch

minions will also be necessary to use

but more in the way you use ammo on mercenary

than as pets

at least that's what someone here told me

so i will have to look into that

for now i'm still pretty early after rerolling from merc

so still abusing fire and cold

[vernal iron]

following zenM build its purely invested in CoF with spark to trigger comet im fked

[carmine gull]

https://prnt.sc/wUKWPSnAOjId

is this any good

or im just too invested in it

[livid hamlet]

it's pretty cute

not insane, but pretty good

[carmine gull]

good enough for the end game?

[livid hamlet]

should carry you through mid maps at least from what i've seen

[carmine gull]

cool

im running that sunder oneshot build

[twin crystal]

yo guys, can some1 link build for deadeye lightning, some1 who real a good player not a troll LEVELING guide

[carmine gull]

but i wonder how maces with no increased physical damage have more overall physical damage range than mine

[tiny urchin]

Yeah then rip. It would be fixable if you were a cold-oriented caster but spark doesn't really work. Could still try what I'd recommend and slot cold snap instead of comet and it'll be similar enough in damage to let you earn a respec in gold

But that would need freeze buildup so it may not work

[livid hamlet]

Just put spell echo, less duration and as much damage nodes

[orchid torrent]

I posted multiple times all the options I can pick from but here -

[livid hamlet]

on the highest level of frost bomb you can have

and it will be pretty decent if a slow clear

[orchid torrent]

no real options (or the options of a moba character)

[livid hamlet]

If you're looking for an autobomber playstyle

[silk juniper]

you dont ahve to make max use of your 60 spirit in act 3

[livid hamlet]

you came to the wrong instance of PoE

[tiny urchin]

I never played poe 1 but I kinda built that anyway XD

And it still works too

[tender oasis]

they kina just fixed autobombers being a thing

[tiny urchin]

I mean I suppose mine isn't true autobomber but it's very close

[wise falcon]

what's the difference plz ?

[livid hamlet]

Recharge rate is when it starts after taking damage i believe

[tender oasis]

recharge is the tim eit take to start the es gain

[livid hamlet]

and recovery rate is the speed of the recharge

basically recovery rate - speed of the car

[wise falcon]

nah that's this

[livid hamlet]

Oh

[tender oasis]

oh wait

[livid hamlet]

then possibly recovery rate

is a wider term

which also encompasses things like leech and whatnnot

[tender oasis]

one might be es leech lol

[tiny urchin]

Recharge rate is only the speed it recharges, recovery is overall

So yes, recovery applies to things like leech where recharge will not

[wise falcon]

15 % recovery = 15% regenerate + 15 % start of regeneration ?

[fast harbor]

Any other meta sorceress build with good damage recommend?

[livid hamlet]

just selfcast fire sorc

seem very strong

lighting archmage

also seems to be doing well

nothing will be as strong as Cast on Whatever comet

but that's why it was nerfed

[tiny urchin]

No, they'd both be effectively the same unless you have ways to gain back es. Recovery is both the rate at which you get it back and if you gain it in some other way (such as leech stealing es from enemies) while recharge doesn't apply to anything else at all. If you can only get one, recovery is always better.

[wise falcon]

frost is still good for me, just use meteor manually and use COF for cold snap, still crushing enemies^^

[rapid stirrup]

Hi guys question about deadeye. If I want to play around magnetic salvo, do you guys think I'll be able to do it right at level 52?

[clever pulsar]

Anyone know what build can use The Covenant Altar robe?
Tried with sorc, and the life leech from spell is quite low.

[junior island]

Wasn't the nerf on gas arrow/grenade explosion a temporary fix? why isn't the nerf reverted now that ignite is taking into account as they wanted?

like the explosions do no damage now

[fast harbor]

Is the only way to get a spiritual gem by killing mobs? Unfortunately, I spent mine to get cast on freeze and found out it was nerfed before I could build it.

[livid hamlet]

yeah they should drop sooner or later

[tiny urchin]

Same for me lol. The build is still functional with a few small changes if you actually built freeze instead of whatever weird non-freeze cof build people were pushing

[livid hamlet]

fire sorc doesn't really need any particular spirit gems

[obtuse escarp]

I'm also trying to salvage my Frost sorcerer

[junior island]

the point of PoE is to make weird builds, but now we are getting shoehorned into "play as intended"

[bitter gull]

new to the game, how do i tell which attribute i need as a ranger?

from the passivex

[tiny urchin]

But in this case, the "weird build" is less weird and more one-button win that overshadows every other build option in the game. The extent of the meta if that remained in would be "what is the most effective way to make cast on x trigger a billion times"

If one build option will stifle creativity in other builds, then it's unhealthy, even in a game where that's the goal

[tender oasis]

and poe1 trigger skills kinda dd this

[junior island]

If the only way they can find to fix stuff like this is to outright delete it, might as well make characters like diablo

[tiny urchin]

I mean it still works if you actually build into the cast trigger instead of running cof on a lightning or fire build

There's other cast on x options for a reason

[junior island]

cast on shock is just as shit?

like they nerfed every cast on

[tiny urchin]

It's probably fine if you build for shock ailment rates with some aoe shock application. My build centered around freeze status saw minimal impact when they changed cof

[junior island]

if you don't want people auto triggering skills don't put cast ons in the game

[wise falcon]

shock has an advantage , ascendency give lots of shock bonus, but frost ones are bad, only chill bonus

[fierce remnant]

imo spark sorc needs a buff

[unkempt nexus]

does the lord of horrors node not work?

[languid coral]

Im fully Ignite build. I press Flame wall (max rank) 100 times on mass aoe and I gained about 15 energy. How would that work at all?

[tiny urchin]

POV: "Cast on shock is shit" @junior island

[fierce remnant]

im using archmage

not enough spirit to use archmage / cos together yet

[junior island]

thanks for the vidoe, will get deleted probably by tomorrow as a build

[tender oasis]

shock has re apply on conuming shock on tree

[tiny urchin]

Then it'll get even better, I don't see the problem lol

[unkempt nexus]

pov, your frames are coming for you

xD

[fierce remnant]

its a bit overtuned i cant lie

im brand new to poe this is my first time playing

but this seems a bit silly

[junior island]

yeah but it will be deleted, not just "tunned"

[static plinth]

The fate of Spark is to always be nerfed

[tender oasis]

^

[tiny urchin]

Soooo are you just going to ignore that the post-nerf "cast on x" is just fine?

[tender oasis]

the fate of arc is to get buffed

[tiny urchin]

And you're kinda just wrong

[static plinth]

Cap

[tender oasis]

i was there for the poe1 arc buff

[junior island]

it's fine if you rebuild entirely, sure, how to respec with no gold and a build that can't farm now?

[hot meteor]

So now my CoF sorc is pretty much dead, im looking to maybe go for ranger deadeye build, but what are the chances that gets nerfed next?

[junior island]

^

see?

[fast harbor]

Holy shot, do you have a written guide for this build?

[bright locust]

Can Shockwave totems be supported by fist of war cuz slam tag??

[wise falcon]

even without COF meteor is still a one shot on a hugh area, just use directly and use echo + unleash on it, that's 4 meteors per cast

[tiny urchin]

Then maybe you should've built into triggering the cast ailment instead of using cof on non-freeze elements lol

Like obviously it was not intended

[junior island]

[fierce remnant]

no

[tiny urchin]

You picked the most broken op build and then act surprised when it gets nerfed for being absolutely busted

[fierce remnant]

i just watched a build video early on and built off of it

[junior island]

I don't even have a sorc created

[fierce remnant]

my items are kind of insane for the build

[junior island]

my build also got destroyed

not evena a sorc

[tiny urchin]

I don't either

I'm blood mage lol

[junior island]

"obviously not intended" my ass

[tiny urchin]

And I'm arguably doing better than I was before

[junior island]

it's in the game, I didn't do anything crazy

I even use one of the intended interactions they showcased

[fierce remnant]

these sorta help

[junior island]

and I'm now forced to REROLL the character

[tiny urchin]

I promise you they didn't intend for people to trigger 20 comets off of one shock skill with non-mages

[tender oasis]

Cast on Critical Strike now also cares about the Damage of the hit when determining how much energy to gain to prevent the use of high-crit low level skills, this should mean using lower hit frequency skills that hit harder are also now much stronger for this. thx hot fix

[fast harbor]

Can you send me the link? you will probably find it in your YouTube history

[junior island]

I DON'T USE SORC

[tiny urchin]

I DON'T EITHER

lol

[fierce remnant]

yeah sure dms

[hot meteor]

what other classes other than sorc got hit hard with the Cast on X nerf?

[tender oasis]

monk lol

[fierce remnant]

am i allowed to post yt links here?

[junior island]

they showcased ranger detonating gas with detonatig shot, go and try that build

[naive fog]

any builds for traps yet? xDD

[tender oasis]

no

they arnt in

it clearly coming with shadow

[hot meteor]

tbf, i know ranger got nerfed, but its probs gonna get nerfed again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7myOU3m9X7c

[junior island]

after the fire wall debacle is literally unplayable, not only did they nerf the explosiond amage as a "temporary fix", they now take the ignite into account so the explosions do even less damage but they didn't revert the damage nerf

so the "temporary fix" turned into a double nerf, as expected

[knotty cloud]

gotta get hotfixed

[fast harbor]

Interesting, I had never thought of using that staff

If you can send me the link, I would appreciate it.

[worldly harbor]

ncie i woke up to my blood mage cof build being bricked

[wispy lark]

how's perm demon form fire doing guys?

[fierce remnant]

turns out when you have a level 20 spark with skills that buff the shit out of it and weaken the enemy it slaps

[frozen falcon]

Best stormweaver build after cof got nerfed?

[fierce remnant]

its in dms

[junior island]

this has been a thing for someone literally every day since the EA started, it's getting ridiculous

[unkempt nexus]

does anyone know if the "lord of horrors" node work? i took it and my reservation stayed exactly the same?

[hot meteor]

could i also get a link plz?

[worldly harbor]

i dont even wanna login mate

[topaz estuary]

what where monks casting with it?

[tiny urchin]

Freeze leaning? If so, just slot cold snap and you're good

[junior island]

welcome to the club, my build got nerfed today for the second time for an interaction I don't even use

[wispy lark]

anyone?

[abstract rock]

could you sent me the link too?

[fierce remnant]

i wasnt sure if yt vids are allowedd here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tK7ZHyH6J0

[hot meteor]

for sorc comet, you can still use it if u have a lot of spirit and can slot like 4 CoF, otherwise just swap it for coldsnap for now, boss damage is still rlly strong, but aoe clear is pretty bad

[tender oasis]

lol 12k es bloodmage on reddit

😂

[frozen falcon]

Did you biild staff yourself? or you found it

[wispy lark]

@tiny urchinyou seem knowledgable, do you know how fire infernalist perm demon form is doing?

[calm orchid]

If this actually works they are going to nerf this too

[fierce remnant]

i built the staff

[calm orchid]

They really do not want it

[fierce remnant]

it started with +4 level and 15% lightning

rest was my exalteds

[tiny urchin]

I do not currently, haven't looked into it

[worldly harbor]

i didnt even care about cast on freeze for bosses. i had to self cast frost wall or self cast comet anyway (on blood mage). but they dont want me to kill white mobs fast i guess

[hot meteor]

it works if you invest in mana now, and obvvs are pretty late into the game

[calm orchid]

I still think it’ll be nerfed

Ranger is definitely next

[hot meteor]

did minion witch get effected at all?

[calm orchid]

Can’t wait for every class to be shit on release

[worldly harbor]

ill try cold snap, but its aoe is very small by default, so idk how that would work

[pearl sluice]

Give up on 12% armour(from 31->19)for +3% evasion(74%), +12% lightning res,13% of dmg recouped as mana and some hp?

[hot meteor]

you can coldsnap like every 3-5 white mobs or smth, compared to comet which is like every 30 now

[worldly harbor]

haha

[inland adder]

Can any weapon proc the monk bell, so I could summon bell with staff and then shoot it with crossbow?

[worldly harbor]

i might as well self cast cold snap

[topaz estuary]

yeah

[hot meteor]

its actually not bad to just have CoF, with comet on hotbar and just spam coldsnap by urself, clear actually isnt awful this way

[calm orchid]

Except for when you get to higher tier mapping and get 1 tapped if you stop moving for half a second

[worldly harbor]

freezing is what keeps me alive. if i cant 1 shot mobs until freeze is over, its problematic

we'll see, ill try something, but doesnt look great on paper

[hot meteor]

this is why u respect now, to a kinda more tanky build, Zen_M has a build like this but uses a stupid amount of CoF, just look at the build tree dont worry about skills https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/bc8310hj

defense still is bad, just not as bad

[manic kite]

Has anyone made fireball frost wall work on Archemage sorceress

[neat laurel]

Does projectile damage scale poison damage aka does it aaffect magnitude?

[worldly harbor]

i was planning to add energy shield with overflow later once i get some gear anyway

[hot meteor]

thing is deadeye looks really appealing to me rn, but i know theyre gonna get gutted very soon

[chilly fiber]

where can i see my shock chance? i feel i should be shocking but i don't seem to do so..

[tender oasis]

ggg would never kill ranger

[manic kite]

Can you have two cast on freeze one with cold snap for clear and one with comet for magic/bosses

[worldly harbor]

yeah ggg would never

[nova topaz]

So since my sorc got executed, what should I reroll as ?

[tender oasis]

ignore poe1 bow build

[chilly fiber]

I rerolled to ranger lmao

[hot meteor]

yes you can have as many as u like as long as u have enough spirit.

[mental briar]

sorc and monks in the ground rn

[tender oasis]

unironnicly play warrior

[worldly harbor]

fuck that

[manic kite]

I mean sorc still has archemage

[mental briar]

better to have elemental invocation for bosses

[severe drum]

unless you were playing another monk

[worldly harbor]

i have lvl 26 warrior

[nova topaz]

I guess I have tons of gear ready for ranger yea

[hot meteor]

im gonna look into doing the same, just be careful as they will get nerfed soon, specifically deadeye

[worldly harbor]

i could reroll to phys blood mage i guess. i dont have enoug hgold tho

[manic kite]

Hmm I don’t know if we build enough energy now to spam elemental invocation in every magic/rare monster. Cof still helps with those

[chilly fiber]

they nerve all the fun stuff

[nova topaz]

Kinda cope but maybe they'll backpedal a bit cause a 90% nerf is crazy

[worldly harbor]

i love it that we're planning on choosing the build not based on if its fun or strong, but if its gonna be nerfed soon

[tender oasis]

i dont think they will touch ranger

[sonic peak]

Its not '90%', it depends on what kind of enemy youre facing

[hot meteor]

they did nerf it today, but i wouldnt be suprised if theyll do it again

[sonic peak]

Apparently some trigger changes are a buff for bossfights

[atomic pier]

Where it says Critical Hits ignore enemy monster elemental resistances, would that apply to your minions critical hits?

[tender oasis]

yes the hit ffects damage

[nova topaz]

Wasn't speaking literally but it's gutted for clearing

[manic kite]

Gorathas frost wall fireball seems cool, but he is blood mage and revolving around crit. Not sure if I can do same thing with archemage without crit

[hot meteor]

it didnt effect bosses as CoX now depends on the enemy type, bosses still give 100% energy

[chilly fiber]

only when you take this i believe

[atomic pier]

That's what I was thinking

Would you lose the spirit on the amulet though if u took that node?

[sonic peak]

Yeah, without investment it is gutted for clearing, but it was def too strong b4

[plain meteor]

Can i still scale using elemental damage with this item?
Or do i now have to get individual sources of each 3?

[chilly fiber]

I actually have no idea if you lose the spirit sorry

[tender oasis]

also it says all bonuses

[worldly harbor]

yeah cof was too strong, ppl had too much fun and its not allowed 😉

[tender oasis]

so some do count

[nova topaz]

Too strong I agree. I was proccing on every freeze

[spice wave]

if i had curses on "cast on minion death" and i also add "heightened curse support" (25% increased effect of supported curses) will the curses be casted with heightened curses?

[worldly harbor]

but now its like every 10th?

[tender oasis]

theres a clip of comet being bonkers

[severe drum]

you would have to get bonuses for all 3

[mental briar]

Naa for bosses it’s still not bad

[wintry knoll]

do the nodes on the passive tree that just say increase crit chance also affect spells? or does crit only work for spells with the ones that say increase spell crit chance?

[mental briar]

Tbh comet cost rising and energy gain falling

It’s disgusting

Nerf one or ther other

Not both

[worldly harbor]

hit crit also works

[wintry knoll]

okay thanks

[plain meteor]

So i couldnt go full elemental dmg and have this split all dmg between 3 sources?

[severe drum]

you could but you would only increase the elemental damage after the fact, I believe, not sure tho

[knotty spruce]

So acolyte is meant to be a chaos dmg acendancy right?

[worldly harbor]

when you hold 'Alt' and read 'Hits' you can read that everything is a hit, except dots

including spells

[plain meteor]

hmm, having trouble grasping the effects.
I was hoping it would split all elemental dmg into 3 equal pools.

[severe drum]

yeah it does that

just that your shock, or cold, or fire increases affect to each element individually

I thought that was your question

[sonic peak]

3rd witch asc will prob be chaos-based, and pathfinder is focused on poison, which is chaos related

[tender oasis]

leech is buffed might be good for bloodmage now

[manic kite]

Subtracem had a cool tech where he used solar flare so that he could refreeze. Because sometimes cold snap didn’t kill and then I can’t refreeze but that might help

[plain meteor]

Sweet! thx!

[knotty spruce]

gotcha just want to play monk and i dont like the look of invoker. Acolyte seems more fun lol

[surreal stratus]

Guys can someone advise me please? Finally got spirit gem to get either cast on minion death or cast on ignite, which one should I go for as Minioin Infernalist using SRS please?

[knotty spruce]

Ah! i meant acolyte monk acendancy

Acolyte of Chayula