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everything seems garbage because CoF was that overtuned lol
Not in that regard
so true honestly and boring garbage and boring
It's about the skills themselves
Nothing is looking good for single target
clear will be fine on most options
they gutted clear
idk gonna try come up w something or see what others do
cof is still gonna be good on single target btw
single targety is actually better for Co_
How many people are screwed since they killed all trigger gems?
holy fuck ball lightning is so dead now
like half the game if not more
Even cast on crit is garbage now
Is there a trade section on this discord? Cant seem to find one. I keep getting Witch/Spell dedicated legendary drops and never stuff for my warrior
Does attack speed affect Channeling skills?
So much for them wanting us to break the game
Like snipe and such
I genuinely don't know what to change anymore
Does Deadeye have a survivability issue in maps?
Problem is you sacrifice so much for it
give it 24 hours and someone will come up with something that makes the build work again. everyone will be happy
half my build got nuked
@spiral kraken 24 hours
Hopefully it won't involve jewels.
i dont got 24 horus let me play my build now 😦
So if energy generation is determined by the percentage of the ailment threshold filled - whats teh most efficient way to do that?
Do you guys know if the exile's stash bundle will go on sale?
gnah no way this got to be glitch
Is like 0 ppl playing mom
im a sorcerer im thinking of going pure flame how should i build
like, ignoring the other increases, we gott up the baseline generation
they must have put code wrong cuz its CAN NOT be this bad at clearing
MoM is a defensive layer, what does it have to do with anything?
i was looking at this for my second char
Can someone send me the top ranger build path
cast on ignite is dead, what else will you even make with fire sorc atm?
The skills are lackluster as all hell
sorc and withc are ded
think theres a guide on mobalitics that would be a good STARTING point. wouldnt follow it all the way because the builds ive seen from there have been kinda wack lol
but at least would get your foot in the door
If all sorc and witch were good for were trigger builds then that indicates a larger issue that needs to be addressed. But that does not mean that trigger gems should not have been addressed
This is the real issue
look at the skills, tell me if anything really speaks to you as something you'd use in a boss fight
yeah honestly over these nerfs in less than a week in. But my shit still crashes out every 10mins
is flame blast any good?
Anything that's Cooldown seems good damage in bursts is what I would use in a boss fight. There's a lot of movement required in a boss fight.
Dodging and the like.
thanks for the info
anyone mind helping me with my build real quick? my cast on shock build got absolutely gutted from the cast on x blanket nerfs
I mean im asking if anybodys playing/using it on their build
Cast times are a thing
Burst dps or something I can slam down and forget would also work.
yes.
cast times make "burst spells" incredibly difficult to use
In general I'm having a good time putting down gas grenade to poison them.
that's why we automated Comet with CoF
i need understand how Cast on X works. for example. Cast on Shock = when points is collected, its cast ALL infused "spell" i have on me?
forgot about cast on x
Is there a functional difference between "supported skills have 30% more max phys damage" and "supported skills deal 30% more physical damage" ?
Heft support gem states the former
its gone
i never used, but still want to try to understand what it is.
I'm a warrior cosplaying as a merc right now waiting for my second ascendacy so I can use Hulking Form.
Is there a thing i can use to show all the pieces on my character? Like some 3rd party site or smth
And grenades are really fun.
Helt increases the highest end of the range, so it can do up to 30% more, but it is not just a 30% more increase. With no luck it is like 15% more math wise
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The solution will most likely be try to have a clear skill while using CoF on bosses
How do I know what item bases I want for my build?
So something like spark cold conversion with CoF comet for bosses
So would you say it's just overall worse than a straight increase since it's a gamble?
With lucky on damage which is possible in some settups it is better
but it sounds really bad for clear
has anyone used eye of winter?
I want to build cold sorc but I dont know what items can roll cold spell lvl
It was good to trigger CoF with 
I'd call it worse, but it is still a good gem if you don't have better damage support available. And if you hve lucky damage than it gets notably better
W slams ?
I really thought the armour break explosion was going to detonate the gas grenade. Sadge.
Biggest problems are the charges for single target and lack of area
For example something like this make it notably better
How about primal armament vs fire infusion?
Former is deal 25% more weapon elemental damage
Latter is gain 25% of damage as extra fire damage
cold sorc still fine
drop CoF its a dead bait skill thats unusable on both trash and bosses
use self cast cold snap 👍
ok how clear
comet takes 2 seconds to cast
put cast stuff on it ok sure now wwhere it the dmg for clear
nobody here is trying to click 19 times to get ever frozen char
cold snap has an aoe buddy
alr im doin archmage
Lots of Area Damage and area size there.
invoker monk is dead wtf were they thinking
at least make respec free in EA if youre gonna gut builds
I noticed if you use the support gems that lower duration times on grenades the fuse timer gets reduced. 🙂
There are good area clusters right in the warrior area too
you're getting it big enough that small-med packs die in one cast
also
look at frostbolt explosion aoe not cold snap aoe
cuz thats what actually applies it
what r use smoking
gonna cost 150k+ gold to respec and I cant farm anything reasonable because my build doesnt work
how does that aoe "apply" to cold snap
do u wanna take a sec and read frostbolt/cold snap or do u want me to explain it to you
What tier of maps are you running with that good sir
Hey I was trying to slot both Combo Finisher and Excise into the same skill and might have run into a bug, anyone know what's with this?
Have people tried swapping weapons for merc, was wondering how viable a strength merc would go
Can someone send me the top ranger build path
bro i did no where does it say apply the radius to other skills dimwit
you are making words up in your head
nor does it say "apply cold snap"
don't call me a dimwit, i gave you the chance to read
+cooldown supports with combo finisher dont work, not sure if it's a bug or intentional
not my frostbolt
don't insult people and act condescending when you don't know what the skills do
Ah gotcha, little weird that it doesn't work both ways
i am doing Str Merc. all i do is mostly spamming Grenades.
i agree, it was one of the first things i tried
next time give a full explination or leave
sad when i realized it too
get a grip little dude
ok and if you put 2 braincells together you'd realize you need a skill to freeze with
the same skill every cold sorc uses
because its fuckin basic
frostbolt
Can someone send me the top ranger build path
To try get an actual informative conversation going, can you provide more detail? did you test it? how does it feel? what tier of maps did you clear with it?
What are Sorcs options now after CoF nerf?
@pearl orbit ill give you a chance to read i guess
tryna to plan im still act 1
Have you tried a different weapon?
play the same build
drop CoF comet
use self cast cold snap
again stop acting condescending little dude
i legit amshowing you the skill
ok now go read the actual skill i said to clear with
that i already showed u
wanna keep bringing this up to be a knob
or wanna move on
cuz we been over this and its been cleared up
again do u wanna move on or keep being a knob and get muted
If you are going to cast cold snap yourself why not keep COF Comet?
cuz other spirit reservation are better than a skill that does literally nothing and triggers twice per map/boss
It sucks cast on shock doesn’t really proc, like I’d prefer a hard cap on how often it procs or nerf comet, I’m running a shock build and just happened to try cast on shock and it was just okay without comet but solid for my build and now it doesn’t work at all
fair didn't think of that
how does recoup life and mana work? Is it split or does one take priority?
I've been trying the same build but manually casting cold snap and it feels ok
see
Hmm
cold sorc is fine
its justr CoF thats dead and unplayable
I do miss giant blue balls falling from the sky
what F for CoF
freeze
Cast on Freeze
How does Hypothermia work with ? Does the curse apply before or after this effect? I assume before.
Cast on Freeze doesn't do single target
spec into frostwall with less crystal life
You boss with frost wall
Heyo im playing Merc with Flash/Explosion/Poison grenades and Galvanic / High Velocity .. nearly lvl 60 now. and im not sure, which of those 2 items i should wear . any suggestions?
^
What is blockable and what isn't? (@ me plz)
I wanna see if I can make something with Orb
It's a strong skill
I haven't used it at all
it just needs more area
don't see why not
bigges weakness I currently see is that It's incredibly small
But do you keep the CoF?
no real reason to
Or do you drop that altogether?
Not that I know what other aura i'd use instead
I know I'm on the archmage plan regardless
b/c it's the only thing that really scales damage rn
what does overabudance do on monk bell? i cant cast twice
lmao this self cast snap is such a reach
id advise anyone to who thinks they want to try it to forget about wasting 40 hours making it something and just restart
What's the main build for this?
Just a mana stacker
so CoF build sans CoF in favor of cold snap? Ab to beat act 1 so I haven't pivoted yet. Trying to see what the best way to go is now.
Very generic
I meant what are the skills
get mana on gear and trees
Archmage is just a support
you use whatever you want with it
juust avoid
No need to, it's a damage multi for stacking mana
Ah
its not worth it the cold snap its small clear at best
also, you could do Call of the Brotherhood
Cof is your dmg stacking
convert lightning to cold
are we talking poe 1 or 2
It feels fine to play it still
It's just not as fast
unless you are running unleash on cold snap its clunky at best
i dont knwo why we are trying to bait our fellow poe players into a bad build
Do crossbows and grenades always feel clunky?
so I guess magnetic salvo got nerfed? I am not there yet, im leveling the ranger up, should I keep going, can i replace magnetic salvo with something else?
Is there a better option instead tho I havent even started a true build yet on my sorc I started playing today
I agree, from zero, definitely not
listen its fine
You can do something else that's quicker for progression
does any1 else's Combat Frenzy not work atm
Mhm, the joy came from the frozen meatballs
I think hes more saying if you need an easy respec thats not a total rest its usable
No meatballs = no joy
is there a way to spread them out
Options from zero seems to be fire then?
Is there a “best” early game class?
What are the support options to try and make Eye of Winter bigger?
or some are saying CoC is still usable
can i use 2 different curses with Blasphemy?
I’m trying to figure out what to play…. Tried ranger and absolutely hated it. Got merc and warrior to 11 and liked both. Haven’t settled on something I want to no life yet. Any direction anyone can give?
@wild star only thing i can think of is running wildshard on frost bolts and then unleash on cold snap
in a5 cruel so far just trying to plan resistances out, so far ive gotten 10% fire and cold res from bosses, plus i know theres an option for chaos res in a6, is there a 10% lightning res coming up? or any other res
I can see that maybe working
Act 2 has lightning res.
Altar of Garukhan
After the path of mourning
You can get it twice
Scattershot, glaciation and Wildshards?
Act 2 and act 5
guys how to enter the Ascendancy Trial on Cruel difficulty? im hard stuck to get the tree points
You need a 3 trial coin
ilvl 60 or higher
is this with the traitor girl? or the guy at act 3? im ultra lost
How does Eldritch Battery affect % increased maximum Energy Shield and % increased maximum Mana nodes in the passive tree?
- Only
% increased maximum Manaapplies on Energy Shield values, after they're added to Mana. - Only
% increased maximum Energy Shieldapplies on Energy Shield values before they're added to Mana. - Both modifiers apply, one before the Energy Shield values are added to Mana and the other after.
i mean the traitor djinn
It’s in the same location
act 3 then?
The trial of the sekhemas is in act 2 and act 2 cruel
The latter you get access to once you get a 3 trial coin
HOLYY MOTHER THANK YOU SO MUCH, i was so lost. i think trial of chaos that give the point to levelup the tree
Is there still 3 nodes in passive tree to give +1 poison stacks I only see 2. I have seen people say there is 3
I mean it does. But you need a 10 room chaos trial ultimatum to get the last 2 ascendancy points
Anyone know if you can still inflict shock with hits if you have Herald of Thunder active? I know this wasn't the case in PoE 1.
That’s around level 75
You misunderstood what HoT did in poe1
can someone explain me pls why 10 max energy per 0.1 base cast time with lightning conduit give 300 max energy if conduit base cast time 1 sec?
The buff ITSELF was unable to shock
It didn’t turn off your ability to shock in general.
wow rip cast on x
Oh okay so the bolts from HoT can't shock, but you can still shock. Got it thanks
Noob here. I'm using this unique amulet and I don't understand it. Is it good? Should I replace it with this 8% all resist ?
y i know but i dont understand how it calcs
arc with 1.1 sec = 110 energy but conduit with 1 sec = 300
Did they just effectively take away an ascendency from Warbringer? In the patch notes we have: "Passive Block chance now applies to blockable hits from all directions, as opposed to just hits from in front." Warbringer Ascendency reads: "Can block damage from all hits while shield is not raised".
doesnt conduit have an effect that increases its cast time
Those aren’t the same thing
Can you help me understand the difference?
Warbringer can block all hits with passive block
so, what are people doing with their completely bricked sorcs now? I have 40 ex, so gear isn't a problem, but i have 3k gold which is useless when it's 2.2k per respec point...
can you rotate items
10 max energy per 0.1 BASE cast time and i test it without any supports
Were you unaware that block doesn’t apply to all hits?
Active blocking is able to block damage from things like aoes
please someone just give me a answer so i dont go amd
Warbringer lets you do that without active blocking
Ranger is nice and fun so far in the early levels, but I fear of the squishiness coming
Well I know it doesn't work on slams and stuff, but Warbringer can't block those either. I still don't see the difference.
yeah idk, i can't kill anything in cruel mode anymore, so i can't even farm some more gold to respec
if lightning conduit is taking 300 energy I cant see any reason for it too. It may be a bug
It'd be super helpful to be able to see actual chance to x like chance to ignite on a skill. Unless I'm blind of course
Wdym? That node lets passive block apply against those hits
@sacred warren it really is jsut a pivot new build
Are you saying it’s bugged?
It’s in the skill panel
Click the arrow by the dps field
Do trigger gems still have the 10 energy per .11 of base cast time requirement?
@sick field will say saw an electric ranger mow down bosses but they updated that also
thatas what i just started haha
yes
i havent watched anything it yet, but i know ggg and they like bow characters
i am Electric Ranger, and i think i mow boss much easier now. but need more test
im still mow down bosses. rain of arrows just got brought down to a bit more reasonable level
i just wanna play the game and my nerfed build is broken now 😦 ty for answer anyway
@lime plank can i a sk where you are
end game bosses?
i bet i just want to make sure
ill gladly go ele ranger
Nah, it's not listed
nah still in crual campaign but the damage is there they just nerfed the hit rate of one of the skills. mag salvo is the big hitter anyways so RoA is just a small nerf imo
just play fubguns ranger build
can you send link
just search fubgun on youtube
Is "inevitable critical" additive? "Gains 25% increased Crit chance each second up to 100%"
Is that 4 seconds, or more due to multiplying into itself/your base Crit?
Welp gonna switch from sorc to ranger for now until a clear path is available
Create a path cmon now 😂
they really exiled my path
forreal
i mean i get the respec stuff being an issue because you cant afford it. but its not like sorc is dead. the very specific build you are using isnt working well but you can probably find a way to leverage something slightly different and still make it work
They exiled my path 2
ahahaa
You can also just farm some items and sell them and respec
What are some good links for arctic armor?
I respec’d a lot to get through act 2 and 3
any viable way to sorcc cast on freeze? im thinking ab just use cold snap and change some support gems
can someone explain why anyone would use elemental invocation now? It takes like 30 seconds of elemental affliction on whites with MAX frost build up and shock chance just to cast comet a SINGLE time. Why wouldn't I just use comet off cooldown??? cast on freeze seems similarly useless now
does damage convert before or after calculations?
they should offer free respec everytime they change stuff, cant even trade gold with other people so u cant just sell ur excess orbs or gear for respeccing golds
(im not a sorc but i feel for u sorc bros)
Cultist bow has innate chaos damage. Some skills convert "physical" damage to elemental damage but it looks like the chaos damage on cultist bow also gets converted?
same that made me broke. Now I feel like i kinda gotta respec from 0 to go bow or something like people suggest
Yeah I was broke for a minute but broke through and it was pretty smooth sailing after cruel act 1
Oh might be because the calculation depends on 'ailment threshold' which is a stat on monsters we know nothing about.
Now have like 200k gold
anybody?
Started with monk first playthru how do I upgrade these other trees all of them say requirement not met
Anyone have any tips on swaping to self cast comet from CoF?
Not realyl sure how to go about it
Ailment build tears go in this channel, yes?
im stuck on act 3 normal now
I'm so sad
Thats the iidea, but its actually bugged and has no affect on your damage.
Brother those are the other classes' starting locations.
If you want to take those nodes you have to path there the long way.
Those are other class start area's. You can only go the direction you are going to start
You don’t, you start from where you start from and go from there
Zealots oath + eldritch battery.
Would that turn life regen above 100% hp into mana regen?
If you know @ me plz
Does bringer of flame effectively make your ignite stack?
I see thanks
I don't really know what to do atm, other than reroll
Is there a way I can see if an attack Crit or not?

I was for a little bit, had to respec and work with supports a bit
man i must be doing something wrong because sorc feels absolute ass to level. i've tried spark/wall ive tried SRS, ive tried cold, i tried chaos. it all feels terrible
Yep, I'm rerolling too. Sadlife. What are you gonna roll this time?
My advice is try to find out good supports to stack out one ability - so you can do as much damage as possible and have to survive less
I don't feel like rerolling right as I was about to hit maps
Is there a good levelling guide out for Monk yet?
Defenses are ideal but more ideal you aren’t hit that much by bosses
I'm leaving town for like 5 days anyway after tomorrow
Defenses more important for mapping imo
Check out mathil - also ziz had a feature with his editor that is good
Honestly yeah considering ditching the game for a couple weeks until things have settled and there's clear+viable builds for an SSF noob like myself. Was really enjoying castonfreeze
Work toward an ideal with one or two spells that your passive tree is supporting
Yeah I am checking out Mathil’s vid but he doesn’t have a planner or anything, gonna eventually do his overall endgame build at least just wasn’t sure if that way would have me gimped in the early game
When do you start being able to access more spirit… I’m level 10 and 4 minions feels kinda rough to get through some stuff. Also what’s the best way to get more spirit.
i mean do you but there are plenty of enjoyable builds. also if you like the cast on freeze gameplay you will still really like cast on crit when you can get it going
different attempts. obviously im speccing into the damage type im using
I did something a little Similar to him but with more ele damage to start and didn’t struggle too much
Cool I’ll just try his way
He sounded really unconfident about his skill tree was mostly it lol
I think what I’d recommend is getting the phys damage reduction sooner then he does
does this double ignite damage? or does it simply make it last longer so it ticks for less
Yeah I think supports are really just keep trying new combos until it feels good tbh
Is that a node?
That’s what he’s saying is he doesn’t think his supports are optimized
idk what to go for gemling merc. i went from grenades which i didnt like to spark which worked once i got some passives and figured out flame wall. Was doing cast on shock but nothing was doing that good and I was dying alot. then i went cast on freeze and it worked w cold snap really well. I never even had comet or thought to do it prior to looking in the discord
Ascendancy
The extra spirit from body armour isn’t bad at all too
Oh the upper node with all the evasion and extra spirit
anybody got info on this?
Cold Damage on every hit for free sounds so strong tho
are there any cool chronomancer builds that aren't hammer of the gods?
you can build it up with mixed damage and afflicting multiple elemental ailments, problem/bug is that it's just single comet, energy cost looks the same as it was so it should be more. Also on bosses it's easier to build up, nice change if amount of casts wasn't (I assume) bugged
Should I save this? Is it just one use?
Theorycrafting Questions:
- If you are using a skill such as flicker strike which prevents power charge generation, can you still gain power charges at the same time as long as it's from a separate source of damage/skills?
- If above is possible, then anyone have any ideas on how to deal a separate "hit" while using flicker, possibly using RedFlare armor for the power charge generation on hit.
- Is thorns damage from Crown of the Pale King considered a separate "hit" when you deal damage with a skill?
trying out some stuff with cast on freeze and somehow this doesnt go into cast on freeze even though it says it should
For chayula monk, what skills synergies well with the as chaos nodes do you think?
COF isnt an invocation
I'm a 3 elements affliction, elemental damage invoker and this change completely gutted my build, so I understand the intent but I am still paying mana to cast my 1 comet, it's just hidden behind EI and gets no support gems. So I sincerely hope its bugged cast amount, because this feels like a really dumb change otherwise.
Yeah, It would still be nice to see some form of "total chance to ignite" from gear and tree, which stipulates that it still has to go through the threshold calculation. ho humm
OK Getting whipped with monk and bell in act 3. Relying on storm wave more than the bell...
Yeah no POB yet so gota do manual math
what if I go chaos witch but build into tank with a shield, use blasphemy debuff adds with despair and enfeeble and allows chaos to wipe, with life leech and going into HP/regen and building tanky sounds pretty decent but maybe bossing is hard as fuck
Is Sorc CoF comet dead? Not home to try it yet
probably COF apparently is as bad as EI according to global
my EI comet is fucked
I think I stumbled upon the most broken monk lightning build of all time and it needs to be patched, I‘m running flawlessly through end game maps right now at 74
I want to make a Monk that focuses on lightning damage and power charge moves. I'm following this and getting one-shot. Is this an impractical build given that it's mostly attribute increases? https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/rbcv203h
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CAN SOEMONE PLEASE LINK ME THE BEST RANGER BUIKD!
can you start a thread? I want to see what you're doing differently. I am lightning/ice invoker
I think the “cast on…” gems would be more for later on, too much spirit reservation required when you can get really good benefits from multiple 30s
what else should I put on ghost ddance
Go into a bunch of evasion and get the pdr ascendancy
I can share it tmrw im in bed right now, I‘m basically spamming one ability and oneshotting through waves, it‘s pure lightning build no ice nothing
gathering storm dash?
guys how to enter trial of sekhemas on cruel difficulty, is it from traitor passage?
wanting to roll invoker monk, which element should i go for, cold or lightning?
both
PDR ascendency?
cold monk is really easy with all the CC
So I'm running Grim Feast on my Infernalist build and really like it, but say I wanna swap it out later for something more potent. Does anyone have recommendations?
storm wave only
im intrigued
A lot of totem notables say "attack skills have +1 to max number of summoned totems"
What does that mean? Is it just +1 totem? Only applies to ancestral totems with attack skills in it?
max limit of totems in general
means multiple totems up at the same time
doesnt matter which totem
Ty
using stormwave only for waves and for big boss fights after getting all the cd‘s down of the boss you start bell and flurry him down, it‘s insane dmg
how much dmg do you have on stormwave? you using it?
So.. only shockwave totem? Or ancestral with an attack slotted?
you can check if click g
ancestral can only use attack skills anywy
also you can easily get oneshot with my build since you don‘t have any cc‘s pretty much but you oneshot regardless it‘s just annoying to approach melee at high tiers on maps
Neither totem has attack tags so idk it's worded really weird
i‘m at 2.2k shield and 9.6k stormwave dmg
I think it might be cuz Shockwave uses its own attack
and it in itself is not an attack skill
and meta gems require u to put the appropriate attack
and it also thus casts its own skill
but yeah
i agree w u
lightning is disgusting I know I‘m getting too far with it
What are you running for lightning?
yall think hexblast still good now that its solidified into consuming only 1 curse?
It seems like there's only a single notable that has this +1 to totem on the tree so i gotta assume it is just straight up +1 totem
has anyone tried the unarmed passives in the tree?
spamming storm wave, get storm runes on ur weapon, mana regen, evasion, energy shield, lightning damage, shock etc.. on ur talent tree. I can share it tomorrow. Might be the most broken thing right now
Any pro witch players know the answer to this? Cheers
Yeah, please. Thanks buddy
You can dm it to me, you can use the build planner on max roll too
Makes it easier
Also you have to get lucky with gear, my gear is almost lightning damage only
Is there anyway to see how many more xp I need until I reach the next level?
☝️ I think that's what's mostly making it easy for you. I have max lighting ele damage and have been doing stormwave as well, not getting as juiced
lighting damage on gear is pretty rare so that'll definitely help your build
hover over your xp bar
I’m on controller I’ve been trying to find where to hover
got 124-230dmg on my staff + 4-115 lightning damage bonus
oof Idk how to help then, I've never played controller
any1 playing arc for both clear and bossin? hows the dps
Why do they make the buffs and other status effects so difficult to understand? I've been playing now for almost 70 hours and I'm realizing that even though I have overwhelming presence on when you actually look at it and allocate how many skeletons you have and/or whether your presence is on or off it'll show red if you go up and normal if you go down and if I have too many skeletons it goes red but I actually don't know whether it's on or not and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to see it
Oh ok no wonder thanks
I gambled it too
overwhelming presence and minion both require spirit so you have to balance it
Is there any way to zoom in on the FOV? Please help I’d love to see the action closer than default fov. I’m on pc
im noticing for witch a lot of skill tree nodes pass around the stun threshold stat scaling off shields. is that something worth investing in at all?
Yes but the point here is I don't know if it's even on. Because I've had minions this entire time along with overwhelming presence and I have 136 or I should say I had 136 spirit but then I realized that by having my sceptor in one hand and my mason the other it wasn't actually helping my DPS. So I decided to switch to a two-handed only and I'm wearing them scepter on my back which I'm not even sure if it's even doing anything because there's no explanations for any of this in-game anywhere
bruh its eggfooyung! also yes use scroll wheel
If its on the spell icon will glow spinning little wheels of light
like this
I don't see a spell icon anywhere but my skills menu is that what you're talking about?
So I'm taking Protect me from Harm in the Invoker tree, so I just gotta use a good body gear that has Energy Shield and Evasion for more spirit, then I can stack Armor and Evasion on everything else. Is that right?
yes
can anybody suggest good support gems for skelleton archer?
its a skill you have to press to fire the arrow
I'm going to send you a message@obsidian grove
Does mana regen regenerate a percentage of your max mana?
first one is on, second one is off
how much of a change cast on shock has gone thru from the patch?
well idk about cos but coc has been nerfed ~70%
Not good enough
1 goddamn spirit away... fml
So, uh... what are people respecing into now that CoF is dead?
All cast on skills now are nerfed. Freeze is still semi viable if you have a good build but shock/ignite are not really working. Sorc builds are now bricked lol
jesus, i guess flicker strike is dead before it even came out of the womb
How'd you get it to display like that?
we will see tmr
A new character. RIP level 65 sorc (almost finished the cruel act 3 as well)
Oh ok if I’m using mouse that’s pretty easy. I’ve been using controller the whole time. I’m wondering if I can do zooming with controller now… uh
controller ui
Ohhh
yeah im seeing my cast on shock % barely going up and im only supporting the corpse thing for power charges
frostwall carries sorc atm
I was doing a mutant fire/freeze/shock critique build. But can’t use CoS to carry the crits further and build charges
Does Comet now require 300 energy? but it still says 1.00s cast time
AFAIK this is unavailable on controller unfortunately
Okay so wtf we respecting all these CoX builds into boys. My bloodmage already felt like shit now it’s LUL
I wouldn't say "carries" is the right word for whatever this is.
Only so far it can take you. Viper is impossible for me with current build and no gold to reroll and no gear to use instead
Damnnittt I’ve never been a keyboard player and I love the closer camera. O well will have to make due thanks
idk if i even should get the spirit from body armour node anymore lol, maybe i dont even run a cast on blank setup but yeah its kinda rough ngl
GLHF nice to see overlap, youre the first tekken person ive seen in here
if the math is correct then 284 energy is now required to be the same as the previous 167 energy to autocast comet on every freeze.
What skill does Viper use that instakills you?
i wonder if its even worth investing into power charges anymore, since itd pmuch only benefit charged staff which tbf u mainly care for for the base dmg and not the added
Oh ok tekken 8. Yea lets goo man good to see u here
on shock is actually better on bosses than it was before now, just worse on everything else
Same, brother. Level 68 and I have no desire to play my build anymore. I'll wait it out for a few days. Maybe they'll give us respec.
Arrows. My DPS has taken a massive hit so have to go through at least 3 phases of them
I hope so.
I just remember you from the fengcord not to be weird lmfao, but yeah have fun this games great
Can’t play archmage as no spirit gems have dropped of that level. Not really any other sorc build I feel like playing / looks viable to me
Anyone have any tips on an easy swap from CoF Comet to something else so I can farm more gold to respsec to spark? Not entirely sure what to change
Did they change the 1 energy per .1 s of base cast time? Is it still universal or is now based on the spell cast (different value per spell)?
really? do we have numbers to compare?
Spark is also challenging without good lightning gear
Yup im fighting to die on this hill. Its base cast is 1.00s but it has that cheesey text at the bottom that says it adds a second so its 2.00s actually. they need to update it and just add the 2.00s to the cast time at the top. I know why they probably are cheesing it is the math for reduction of cast time gems would prob make it wonky. But still unfair.
Ice Nova is 100 energy, Comet is 300. Thats so lame
Shouldnt cold snap on CoF be good? Its lower energy cost than comet
just how it felt to me, the new math takes in the enemies rarity now
yeah need to farm some gear too unfortunately - trying to figure out a good cold build to go to from CoF
If you have enough freeze build up it should work fine
Hope for a level 15 spirit gem and try archmage - you’ll need some extra spirit
Yea it’s all good. Just looked on Reddit tons of ppl asking for controller fov zoom. Hope they can patch it soon. Cheers man tekken guest reveal tomo brother.
hmkay, still idk if i wanna keep running a cast on setup, at this point ima just do gathering storm and spam a few siphoning strikes on bosses
thats what ive been using. litterally JUST got a level 11 gem too XD
CoD should still work to be honest. That’s at 10 rather than 2….
I'd need to farm gold for respec to lightning and lightning gear and currently as my CoF build stands it cannot kill much haha
only thing im thinking is maybe cast on crit is still acceptable cuz critting is something u can do very regularly
Won't matter if you can't trigger CoF. It triggers 1/50 freezes. Cold Snap won't help.
Is Frenzy Charge Deadeye stuff just dead on arrival/an incomplete archetype? Feels like SO much input for 0 payout whatsoever.
Its like that with comet because you need 300 energy for comet to trigger
Tell me about it. I refilled what I could and it kills the enemies in cruel 3 but no bosses can be killed. Massive DPS check for me
Cold snap is 50 energy, compared to comet's 300
Hmm, fair point. That might make CoF more bearable, but that would mean it's still 1/10 freezes, which means you'll still have to manually cast Cold Snap a lot to clear mobs.
does blood mage energy shield as maximum life get rid of my energy shield?
I felt the same went tailwind with mine 100% felt better an less “input” just use the skills attack faster/more evasion
That’s fine though. Freeze is probably the only build for sorc now that’ll do damage with cold snap etc
yea i already took a magnetic salvo merc to like t12 maps or so. just feels insane that some whole archetypes feel dead on arrival yet they lure you in just enough to think its maybe viable
eg. literally every bloodmage player before realizing you may as well be unascended before you get 6 ascendancy points
Can anyone tell me if Cast on Crit got nerfed also ? I have 30% crit chance now and was gonna swap to CoC. Was using Cast on Shock but thats shit now
Yes
cast on cold snap is better than comet imo
Dang really :(
It did. All cast on skills are nerfed
does ruthless work with skelletons?
anyone playing invoker monk what are you gonna change skills to now?
All the CoX skills are really bad against white mobs
yep
My main problem with Cold Snap is that it's way too clunky and slow. There's only so much kiting I can do before the mobs push me into a corner.
What class should i go to instead of sorc? Any recommendation?
They probably still work fine against magic and rare mobs but those barely exist
thtas where frost nova comes in
That’s what I thought when I played freeze sorc. Too clunky. Word for word what I described it as to a friend
Can anyone tell me the difference between this:
And that’s coming from a sorc that had rings to give 2 extra skills haha
and this:
If you hover the tooltips do they say the same thing?
Recover is how fast is starts to refill where as recharge is how fast it fills
see I thought that too, but then exhibit C:
Or the other way round
Hmm. 🤷🏻♀️
Is nobody doing frostbolt ice nova on meta gems? Fuck comet thats boring lmao
I have no earthly idea what Soul Bloom actually does because the Energy Shield Recharge node that is also 15% is directly below it, so you'd think the named node would be stronger if they did the same thing
15% faster recovery of the start of recharge rate of energy shield
Maybe it’s both of them?
I will definitely try once I get one character far enough on HCSSF
recharge is the standard ES recharge mechanic. recovery also includes regen (like from zealot's oath) and recoup. start of recharge is the delay between taking damage and starting to recover ES
I mean that would actually be pretty cool if it was both
Thats ehat ill probably try once i hop on again
So recovery includes Recharge + Recoup + Regen?
yes. for equal value like those nodes, recovery is technically the better stat
It felt pretty good with comet and CoF, but manually spamming Cold Snap feels terrible to play.
If not ill just swap to some janky crit spark build for my blood mage XD
Yup
there's two different lines to be aware of. faster start of recharge lessens the time for your recharge to start, and then theres increased recharge rate, which increases the speed at which the ES refills
It’s very janky
Yeah I get those, which is why the Soul Bloom node was confusing since it didn't have the same wording as the others
Just need to get a staff with like +4 to lightning skills and im setup for success
There doesn't seem to be much ES regen or recoup on the tree right now unfortunately
Recovery affects all forms of ES recovery (recharge rate, leech, regen, etc)
It’s good against white mobs. And blues. But other than that…. It’s challenging. Big DPS check on some bosses. My tip - make sure you have flasks that recharge in time rather than kills
Yup Hyp explained all that just before you, but thanks, I just wish there were sources of those other things that I could see
Oh word, I just popped in
Ill just keep using elemental invocarion with comet on bosses or something like that
What class should I try now my sorc dream (already not so pleasant) has been darkened
What's a good build for a Stormweaver Sorceress around level 45-50+? i JUST built the CoF and then got disconnected by the patch lol
Mercenary looks sick as fuck
Mathil’s monk build looks really fun that will be my next buidl for sure
finally got a bloodmage build that slaps
What are you playing?
bonerstorm
Yeah. I’m thinking that’s what I’ll go to. My friend has just started a character and another is level 90 on t16 maps
There will probably be an ascendancy that has nodes that recovery would benefit from, but we are playing EA so
I actually still have to try some physical bloodmage only pkayed lightning and cold
I need help, what's a good stormweaver build that isn't "cast on"
Yeah I’ve seen some clips of monks slapping
i can pretty much tank most stuff, using an armor shield and a couple of uniques and i constant am at 2400hp. still gotta dodge the big bogg stuff but shredding pretty well. hard stuck on 3rd ascendancy though because honor system sucks for this playstyle
Ice wall with fireball seems to be one of the strongest
What would that be called? Or do you know of any builds?
Ill eventually try it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjKS8fJrmN4
been following something like this with my build.
primary question: the guy is using phys damage on his crossbow for mods. do i want to do the same or keep using lightning mods on my weapon?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/dx52803n
note: trigger change is a buff for this build. energy buildup against bosses is about 2.5x easier, and will trigger after 1-2 shocks.
I think Goratha is playing it
Found it, thank you!
Hey guys i'm looking at the Resonance skill for my monk build. What do you think of that skill slot?
Primarily curious cause I have no idea what power, endurance, and frenzy charges are and how they incorporate into my build.
Any good lightining builds? I'm in cruel act 1 and lightning still feels bad. I'm trying to make it work but it's just not..
doing lightning merc its very fun 😄
Oh sorry forgot to mention class. Sorc/Chronomancer.. I chose badly cause thought the personal slow would synergize well with lightning.
But man I want to make it work.
its for with Support Gem that gives you charges.
i mean its good if you are wanting one charge type through another
You can playing lightning arrows with lightning rod but i dont know how hard it is to spec that on the tree for it to work
do yall think i should unspec power charge nodes if im not sure about using flicker anymore cuz of the cast on X nerf?
@sly leaf Ghost Dance, Grim Feast, Shock Siphon would benefit from ES recovery, just to give some examples. There aren't many in the game RN tho
Fair enough I guess a more direct way of asking is how do I know if im generation endurance and frenzy charges what procs that?
I was tyring to do caster, but I guess I could try making it into a martial char.
It uses Cast on freeze :( Do you know any other good builds for stormweaver perhaps? Also replied to the wrong message
also ball lighting seems to be busted for me. it almost never applies a shock.
various skills, supports and spirits generate and various skills, supports and spirits spend them. One example is Bonestorm is empowered if you have power charges. You can build power charges by culling with a power siphon wand
just realized the passive tree isnt actually the same for every class
What's the best site to find builds on?
I'm still confused lmao. I'm and ice/lighting monk. if im not generating endurance and/or frenzy this skill is useless how do I know or better yet how to I proc those charges?
it will say on the skill/support/spirit and yeah its useless if you're not playing around with them
This only affects Witch starting area for now - my assumption is that PoE1 classes will have different starting areas than their PoE2 counterparts
If it stays
How much was Cof nerfed by, like how much energy does a freeze on a white mob give
on white mobs its like, 1/10th of what it was
Is stun calculated before damage since culling strike is before damage? Or is this unique in that it applies culling strike on stun trigger after damage, thus culling after damage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjKS8fJrmN4
watching this guys video he has a high pdps crossbow for electric mercenary.
do i want to do the same, or go for a high lightning dmg crossbow? all lightning skills have a 40% conversion rate.
That could actually be huge...
You can get higher local weapon dmg values by scaling the physical on your weapon because of the local increased physical dmg %
So for now it's most likely best to do that
so that would be better than lightning dmg mods
the node that makes ur chest give 100% more evasion does it work with the spirit thing for invoker?
I’m just wondering if you can go all in on like cold snap and energy generation and still be ok ish into white mobs
They really need to find something else for Dex to do other than accuracy, most classes can benefit from +max mana from Int, everyone basically from +max HP from Strength, but only "attack" users benefit from Dex 😦
whats a good cof comet replacement my shit is completely bricked
With the new changes Id say currently you shouldnt rely on any energy build, it just supplemental
Yes but if you're scaling lightning damage %, flat lightning is also good because you bypass the conversion and get full lightning dmg % scaling. Endgame optimization might be different depending on the affix values and what's available later on but for now you just want to have the highest throughput dps which is more accessible via scaling pdps on weapon
how TF does poison work if it doesnt scale with chaos dmg
If it was me I would try Frost Bolt followed by Ice Nova
That's one of the traditional CoC spell setups from PoE1
Ah =/ Not sure cause I haven't looked at it but it's probably different to optimize
Since it's two spells rather than one
super informative, thank you!
@still rock while you're here, do you know of any reliable way to generate corpses during boss fights or is this just not in the game currently?
also just found out my main damage dealing devices are relying on pdps anyways XD
does increased damage type take place before or after conversion?
None unfortunately, it makes several skills fairly unusable for single target. The only method I'm aware of is the Sacrifice spirit gem which allows your spells that would normally target corpses to target reviving minions.
I'm not sure if Desecrate will make it (I assume some variation of it will at some point) but they need some form of it otherwise some skills are basically bunk
Probably not
If I get a small node that gives +5 block chance, is that additive? Right now, my block is 37%. If I went and got 3 of those nodes, would it go up to 52%?
Corrupted generally means you can't affect the item at all with currency items
(Unless they add in corrupted currency items which are specifically tailored for that purpose only)
(But they do not exist as of now)
An earlier version of Unearth generated corpses, I like the new one better, just needs to find that body source
Ah I didn't know that. I'm surprised they didn't have some other form of it in the current state.
Maybe through Uniques? Not sure, I haven't looked at all of them. But I haven't heard of any.
Speaking of corpses, Corpsewade sounds so cool but... man that base sucks ass lmao
and only 10% ms
😭
All I know is, for now I'm gonna try my Flame Wall / Raging Spirits / Arsonists / Fusillade build as far as I can take it
With my doggo and my suicide bar
is this even good
nice item to give to your level 1 character
I mean as a very low level it is great
It's a leveling unique
That is just the minimum zone that can drop it, seems meant to be given to a new char
ilvl doesnt affect uniques' effectiveness
you can get a unique at a high ilvl, it just means that unique dropped from a higher level zone, like Sera said
oh
I'm playing the same build. It's a lot of fun, but I'm thinking going Armor/ES mixed, grabbing closer nodes might be better, but I'm not that experienced as others.
Leveling uniques have their own purpose but yeah you wouldn't use it very long
I haven't seen anything grabbing the shield nodes right by the minion nodes on the far left side of the tree
I was thinking I'd do Armour / ES on Bloodmage when I make one of those
For attack builds, you can twink a new character with a host of weapons that you trade out at certain levels to keep pace with damage, That would be one that you start with at level 1
Is Wide Barrier not good? (+30 block, but 25% reduced global defenses)
I did blood mage first, but wasn't a fan of the ascendancy. You are locked into a choice that can't kill bosses.
anyone know why this node would be showing a DPS decrease for two of my crossbow skills? I am so confused
I think the top blood mage on the ladder is only using 1/12 nodes.
it doesnt say melee, crossbows are two hand weapons
Why can't you kill bosses?
That's not from the ascendancy inherently, that's from how you built it
Also a lot of people aren't playing Blood Mage because it's undertuned/bugged rn from what I hear
Every time you cast, it costs health. You just run out of health flasking your own damage. Not a fun time.
yes, all those are crossbow skills, and the exact same nodes before it increased everything and now two are showing a decrease and two an increase. Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying?
First week, I don't trust anyone who thinks they have the game figured out already
Anyone know a good passive node or anything to fast clear maps as phys spell crit?
- dont use the shift thing on passive tree nodes it's not very accurate and most of the time not useful (seems buggy rn)
- xbows are 2 handed weapons
ok, it's the fact that two of the crossbow skills are decreasing that is really throwing me off
mb i read it wrong
There was a bug I think someone had where it was taking more health than it was meant to, but generally speaking this tells me that you just need to focus on personal defenses in the passive tree if you intend BM and you probably can't afford to go into Minions / Max Minion HP
I'd recommend not using it for now, it's obviously not correct in a fair amt of scenarios I've seen
(the shift thingy)
I tried to do the chaos, dot one guy and it spreads to everything. Not sure if that's even a build. lol. It was fun. I learned all the mechanics of the bosses, for sure since I could easily control my character.
got it, thanks! ill check before and after and just refund it if it actually decreases
For now that's how we have to test, yeah
The version I saw was using minions, that could be the issue.
What's everyone doing for cold sorc now?
ED contagion is great, that's what I'm playing (https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1316077636866412625)
Although, like I've mentioned just recently in that thread i linked, Blood Mage is not very great for it because you do not get leech from DoTs and you kinda need leech to keep up with the life cost for spells that Blood Mage gives you.
I think it'd be an easy transition to Hexblast, though
why is cast on shock not working?
Oh, sweet! It should leech, right?
Since you are around the same points for chao dmg
im going for flicker strike Monk but im not sure what i should have on my weapon, im leveling with glacial cascade and plan to use storm wave + flicker strike later
Damage over time effects never leech in PoE
For the most part
haha, oh man. I really messed up my build then.
ok yeah, it didn't even have the current DPS correct. but my crossbow shot went from 249 to 263, so I assume it just using something else incorrectly as the current value
Leech only takes place from hits. But like I said, you could probably transition to Hexblast if you wanted to stay chaos damage
I haven't really explored it yet
How much ish crit do i need to transition from Cast on Ignite to CoC? Also, do i need to upgrade firewall skill if i only used it to proc ignite and not for dmg?
I have no clue what it's doing, it seems like it's a completely bugged feature
Not sure
I'm just ignoring that it exists for now
how many weapon set points do you get total? (not gemling)
yeah, some of the other skills disprove my theory so for sure ignoring it for now haha
also wondering if there's a skill tree calc out there
poe2db.tw and maxroll have one, unsure of others for now
I guess +% accuracy rating nodes aren't working at all right now either
Anyone tried leech yet how is it?
if I have three dragons and my lightning damage now applies to freeze instead of shock, to freeze faster, do I take freeze buildup nodes on the tree, or shock magnitude/chance nodes on the tree?
for LA and lightning rod, should i put flat ele or just increased phys?
should i play monk or warrior for a league starter?
Probably a decent amount if you want to rely on it for main damage. Like over 50% I'd wager, but I haven't played it. As for staying as CoI, from the patch notes it sounds like you'd just level the flame wall to max and try to scale its damage as well because the damage of the ignite matters now for energy generation.
Guys, physical damage increases apply before or after it gets converted to an elemental dmg (merc ammo)?
warrior is alot more fun if you have some gold and starting gear from another character
first character so i dont have any other gear lol
How much flat is it?
i meant like via the runes, sorry, its like 1-20 or 20% phys damage
So the math can get complicated there because it depends on the skill you're using and also the amount of that particular element scaling % you have elsewhere
It's easier to just increase pdps throughput and keep trucking through
so how does eye of winter work with elemental ground effects
are we talking burning ground and stuff
For example: if the skill you're using only has 40% converted and you have loads of that element % scaling, then the flat might be better. But if the skill converts 100% then the physical is better if it gives you a higher throughput value
is monk a bad league starter or any good at all? i was told it got nerfed
should i play worior or munk
monks fun for a starter
Does anyone know why sacrifice doesn't work on skeleton, am I dumb
is there a difference between "crit hit chance" and "crit hit chance with spells" if you're only casting spells?
if i have 10% inc crit hit and 10% inc crit hit with spells and cast a spell, is my crit chance inc by 10% or 20%
No, they'd be additive just as if one was the other and vice versa
if that makes sense
Effectively the same in your case
is skeleton from your weapon? are you seeing them get summoned?
ah okay, i thought so but then started overthinking it lol
ok the orbs from blood remnants can be generated by minion kills
not sure if this was intended
Hey guys! New player here, trying to figure out how to get a 4-link spell. I used the lesser already as you can see but I want to expand upon it. How do I get more?
3 socket > vaal orb and pray it hit +1
Guys, does the latest patch kill CoC? Or is it just elemental ailments?
one more question, is there a good guide/overview on how to build defenses? ik maxing out elem res's is expected but should i also be trying to get armour, es, and evasion or can i focus on es?
they are from the weapon ye, can they not be?
Im just thinking of what could cause it to not work, are you seeing the skeletons spawn before trying to use sacrifice?
💀 is that all I can do?
trade , or higher lvl maps
ye I see them running around
Does Ghostwrithe consider life before set to 1 by CI?
how can i freeze enemies with non-cold skills?
support gems
i put glaciation on spark but its not really doing anything
In general you want to have some layering of defenses to cover for the drawbacks of the defense that you invest in more. In terms of raw ES, that's generally chaos resist.
I think theres a stormweaver node for it, or support gems that make skills do cold damage, theres also a unique that changes fire damage to frost I believe
glaciation is 50% MORE Freeze buildup
I don't understand why my character's stats suddenly went down a lot. Is that a possible bug, or is it something else? I didn't change any gear
any idea which support gem specifically would do this then?
its the last tier ones that causes ur dmg to also build freeze meter
You have to hit with cold damage to do freeze buildup unless you have an effect which allows you to buildup freeze with another damage type
why is cast on shock not working?
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Anyone how a minion's actual level scales with skill gem level?
Ice bite is one
added cold damage would be the easiest
as long as u have a element dmg u will build towards that element cc
thanks ill keep it in mind. finding a good chaos res ring is going to be tricky
Minions scale their own level as you level the gem, it's all different per minion but you can see the number differences on minion level here:
https://poe2db.tw/us/Raise_Zombie#RaisedZombiePlayerSummonedZombie_
PoEDB provides things come out each league, as well as items, uniques, skills and passives. Path of Exile Wiki editing functions.
Zombie as example
Click on "Select Monster Level"
OK, I'VE COOKED
Yeah, I want to know what level would my minion be with respect to its skill gem level.
the exact same as ur gem level ...
My assumption is that it's based on the required level of your character to use the gem, so for the zombie example it'd be level 84 at gem level 19 and level 90 at gem level 20
that cant be right man, a level 13 gem skel brute is level 13 minion that has only 152 life?
why u trying to complicate things
u just get higher tier gems and thats it
and + minion lvl
I want to know how skill gem level correlates with Minion level, so I can know their total HP and stats
belive this was actually buffed?
summon them outside town and u can see their hpo
How so?
cast on frost, ignite and shock was very nerfed. when fighting white mobs you gain energy way slower
What about coc?
i meant CoC, belive me im crying over cof
i could be inerpreting this wrong so put me down like a dog if im lying to you
If they reduced the amount if energy gained, does it matter what the is the gain source? Doesn't it mean that all the energy gain sources got nerfed?
It looks like you still can only gain one instance of energy per skill cast? They removed that line from the skill description
Anyone tried Detonate Dead using buffed minions? or does endgame mobs have higher hp pools?
Did they nuke monk comets?
they nuked every CoX
Time to stop having fun i guess
Im not sure about coc though
PoE 1 is still right there if you want to blast
all of them got the axe. I was about to unlock CoS tonight too. :/ lol. Time to save up some gold for a respec. I assume there will be some form of all lightning I can effectively do but im not familar enough with the game to figure it out yet
Because 2 is Ruthless as the main game mode 😂
oh lol, I figured you meant cast on chill
Did u ever play ruthless
Guys, resistance reductions (for example from curses) applies before or after your own resistance penetration?
Poe 2 is nowhere close to ruthless
check out my new blood mage build
Such a stupid argument to say poe1 is there if you wanna blast
Before
They could've just made the cast on spells deal 50% reduced damage or something, I spent the start of ea planning a build that rains comets on freeze cause I thought it was a sick idea, I spent the 60h to get there and thought it was cool. Now it's essentially useless. I don't care about the damage, I wanna go through a map freezing enemies and watching comets fall on them, that's all
Oh shame, res pen can't go negative now
Pen seems to be mostly for bossing now
I agree, the spam was fun, I wish they nerfed the damage and not the cast. They may take another look at it soon tho
A lot of monster types have inherent resist and it can scale pretty high
You can also get rares with double resist affixes sometimes
Is there any conventional wisdom on what venom reward is usually best to take in normal?
I hope so, the drop rate patch gave me hope but this last patch has me lose a lot of that hope. I don't wanna go back to poe1 I wanna play poe2 cause I enjoy it, but what they've done is a shit direction to take
Omg they fixed boneshatter, good stuff
Ah, fair. It's definitely still useful just not as braindead as a dmg increase as it was before
Opinions are like assholes
idk how often we told GGG to buff other skills instead of nerfing everything and they still just nerf everything
yea its fine to nerf straight up busted stuff but come one
I can't believe they actually thought triggered spells ignoring their cooldown was a good idea to begin with
what are we thinking on this chat
possible cook or horrible idea to go energy shield build
imma log in and check out the change i guess
Saw this shit coming from 45 lightyears away
maybe set up a self hit loop?
Yeah unfortunately it takes up a body armor slot
Which is where you get like, a LOT of ES
or at least a way to hit self
"Don't nerf, just buff" is a naive attitude. That just causes power creep and lowers the difficulty. That's part of how PoE1 got a lot of its problems in the first place.
I think some of the nerfs in PoE2 so far have been a bit heavy-handed and they need to do something about respec costs if they're gonna keep massively nerfing stuff people have built around, but nerfing the strongest things instead of buffing the weaker things can be the right approach if the power of the weaker things is closer to the target they want for the game.
okay yea they gutted the comets LMAO
could it eventually out scale that tho?
In other words, nerfs feel bad and there are issues with their approach to balance so far, but it's a good thing that GGG doesn't listen to the people who say "just buff the weak skills instead of nerfing the strong ones"
hear me out, fireflower blood mage, use the on minon death gain es
Our defense options are limited at this point
give more than you would get from just a regular chest
Did any other classes get gutted other than sorcerer ? Looking to make a new char
and the triggers to get hp shards
they not only lowered the amount of energy u get
but also increased the cost
at 100% energy i have 1 comet cast
👍
yikes
Good
so trigger cast is entirely dead?
Only trigger builds were gutted. Non-sorcerer trigger builds still got nerfed (e.g. invoker trigger) and sorcerers that don't rely on trigger are fine
Self cast did not get touched at all
and bear in mind i have 35% energy increase as monk
Anyone recommendations as to what I should do on my new char in terms of class
fart explode deadeye is still good right?
Yeah, Invoker was arguably the better class for the way a lot of people were building than Sorcerer in the first place. I think it was just more popular among sorcerers because most people's build process was "I want to play ele spells -> make a sorcerer -> triggers are the best spell build" not "I want to play trigger build -> what's the best trigger class?"
yah monk trigger seemed way better
I've only played Sorcerer so far and I'm only near the end of act 3 normal, so I'm not the best person to give personal recommendations. I've heard deadeyes are good
At fair I’ve seen a lot of people say that too nerf inc
I think for fully building around triggers Invoker is probably better, but in their post nerf state triggers seem like they probably aren't worth fully building around so we'll see
I mean let me put it this way. 95% of the people just chasing meta are gonna get skill issue'd once (if) they reach maps.
what i dont get tho
Because maps have a lot more problems than just 'trigger builds are strong'
i could spam comets yea it might was a bit busted, i could save 3 casts
I've been wanting to make a CoC build using Quill Rain for triggers because that seemed fun, but haven't gotten far enough to even try it yet, figure that's still workable or do I just go do something else for now? 🤔
so they not only decrease the energy i get but also increase the cast cost
Just make it bro
Because it was way too stupid, to the point of lagging people's computers
I mean, the fact is most people haven't played most builds so people qualified to give an actually good answer are limited
and then start to buff again
Which is exactly what they wanted to avoid with poe2
GGG knows more than we do, current energy abilities might be way to strong once we get the spells we are missing, so they had to be nerfed
Good. Now is the time to gut the OP shit.
I don't think that's what the nerf was based on
Now, they SHOULD also probably give us more respecs
Technically, the energy nerf wasn't actually as big as a lot of people think, even though it was huge. It wasn't 90% like some people are saying.
yah kinda unfortunate, was gonna play the CoC monk
was levelign another couple builds with friends though so the backups will prob be ok
invoker is still probably the strongest class in the game
I do agree with this. It seems like respeccing might be too expensive in general, but especially right now with huge nerfs happening on a regular basis we need a way to switch builds when that happens
Im only a level 26 sorc who was building a cold cof. Any ideas on what I should pivot to now?
Meta gem skills were clearly made in mind to be easily balanceable versus their PoE1 counterparts (which have always been either broken good or not good) because you can effectively control the trigger rate by balancing energy generation. This is the first example of why.
they also fixed cold infusion 👀
what makes invoker so good?
cold infusion?
cold infusion buffed all your skills
Invoker has very strong built in damage and one of the strongest defensive passives

Turning evasion into PDR
I think cold sorc is still probably fine, you just can't rely on triggering comets and maybe self-cast comets or use frost wall
Has anyone tried elemental storm?
Tried fire elemental storm, just doesnt have enough juice
yah that part seemed really good when i was looking at it, havnt gotten geared enough to really try that portion out yet, and was a bit confused on the final ascension proccess
Damage is just low?
How are we supposed to use the cast on ailment skills now? Investing super heavily into it: 2 wheels, ascendancy node, support gem. Gaining 2% energy on my shock.
What is the purpose of cast on X(ailments) now?
balance is balance, but im ending up in a perpetual state of poor as items and spec go obsolete or at least get nerfed a bit
hope i can get a build that wont have too many changes so i can get into the end game grind
yea, incenerate is super bad, half of fireballs damage hits nothing and the firestorm doesnt have the inherent freeze that helps you survive
Does anyone know if ANY support gems work in Blasphemy, or is it only socketable with Curse skills? Right now I've tried Decaying Hex, Encumbrance, Impending Doom, Expanse and none seem to have any affect on the aura hexes
Oh, you meant fire, I was asking about elemental storm in particular. I'm actually having a lot of fun with fireball, but just in act 3 normal. I've found it actually goes really well with frostball, you can get a lot of shotgunning going with that
Struggling to decide between ranger and monk - any tips on what would be an easier experience with?
Ranger
monks just not do enough damage or something? just curious
ahhh okay - ice strike seemed fun since it kinda works like flicker
Warrior - Does Stun Threshold do anything or did I waste the Permenent Buff from the poison quest?
Ranger is easier to be ranged. Melee needs to be in melee
Only level 30 but not feeling the petless melee witch with maces. Not enough synergy. Bonestorm seems like it either needs minions or something fast attacking to proc the charges. Axe/Flail/Daggers could really open it up though.
anyone know why cast on ignite might not be working? im using flame wall and infernal hound
what is your spirit at
Do all physical hits contribute to stun?
Cast on ignite doesnt get energy from minions ignite
with the COF and other changes, whats a good sorc build now?
3/279
i was around for the balance around poe1 trigger skills and oh boy we had the same balnce
ahh ty
Can chaos damage chill?
no
why do all the chaos skills have a chill duration then
Is there a reason comet costs 300 energy? Shouldn't it be 200, going by skill description?
Could anyone inform me of the demon form changes for infernalist? Were they good or bad? I wanted to make a build that focused on being in that form all the time.
I was also confused by this
I dont think it had any changes, I dont see anything in the notes unless I am missing it
It seems to be the only one that doesn't use base cast time, too... the 2 second cast time includes the +1 in the skill description
Ah, ok my bad then. When searching for build information today I came across a few people mentioning that it changed, but I couldn't find out how. The most I saw was someone say tht Demon form now has a minimum of 1 life lost per second, per stack. I'm not sure how that's different though since it always did more damage to you over time.
GGG bending over for player power creep over the last 5 years has sucked the engagement out of their game, I'm glad they are standing up to it for once. You're just a guy that comes into chat to complain when his build gets nerfed.
Can any bigbrain help me with a question about dmg convertion? for example a merc skill that converts 40% of physical dmg to lightning (or fire/ice).
1- If I use an item that gives 1-10 extra physical dmg, that amount gets added after the convertion, or It gets converted? (resulting in 6 physical and 4 lightning if it does the max dmg)
2- Does physical dmg% increase from items apply before or after the convertion? like, it boost only the 60% physical dmg after the convertion, or it converts all of it and then 40% goes to lightning?
- depends on the item and the stat line you're talking about, you have to be specific
- ^
Does resolute technique in warrior take away stun build up? i just got it and now i cant get the stun build up on any enemy?
crossbow shots counts as an attack right?
Add 1-10 physica damage / physical damage to attacks? same for % increases
No, your stun buildup is dependent on damage dealt, so unless you had a huge amt of crit chance and accuracy before taking RT then it should probably have the opposite effect since you aren't missing at all.
Screenshot the item and affix you're talking about if you want a definite answer


