2┃build-planning

[still rock]

this is not taking into effect the shock chance, which is a seperate roll

[silk smelt]

magnitude from various passives yes. but the damage of the hit is irrelevant here

ok keep emoting dude

[still rock]

It's wrong

[silk smelt]

youre wrong

[still rock]

Read the ingame tooltip for shock magnitude

[stuck star]

is there a rarity cap? thinking of making a loot build

[wraith fox]

what was the question Riv

or the thing you said

[silk smelt]

yes and? shock magnitude is just a stat you get from various passives and increases the 20% to something higher. the damage of the hit is still irrelevant

[bold saffron]

that doesnt sound very good ngl xd

[uncut ravine]

Am I reading things right that Lycia is in the game to be able to get the original sin ring?????

[wraith fox]

it says higher lightning dmg increases shock chance right there

[stuck star]

just something with rarity buffs but good enough to clear fast

[edgy solstice]

Does anyone know if lightning monk needs dex or something ng else

[silk smelt]

there shouldnt be a cap, but with the current state of the game its probably hard to get a build that kills things comfortably enough and has high iir

[silk smelt]

chance not effect

[still rock]

Read the ingame tooltip for shock magnitude

[edgy solstice]

Bruh they nerfed the rate, either for pre release or they making you work for it

Multiplier on shit Rate is still shit rate

[wraith fox]

yes, the effect is increased based on magnitude

[still rock]

in fact, screenshot it and post it

it literally says its affected by the damage of the hit

[stuck star]

i dont mind farming ngl

[wraith fox]

chance to shock is based on the lightning dmg
shock debuff is 20% + whatever magnitude

[silk smelt]

so what?

[bold saffron]

im new to poe so i also have similar question: what does magnitude ACTUALLY do

does it make the debuff more powerful or more likely to proc

[silk smelt]

exactly. but this guy is telling me your damage affects shock effect

[still rock]

more powerful

[wraith fox]

i dont think he does

[opaque zodiac]

can you chain off of frost wall

[mental briar]

Do cast on abilities actually benefit from being levelled up?

They don’t show anything

[wraith fox]

both of you got confused as to what you said

[edgy solstice]

More powerful

[mental briar]

Like cast on freeze doesn’t show any modifier

[edgy solstice]

It’s literally the value

Magnitude is just the value of that said debuff

[wraith fox]

debuff more power the more magnitude

[edgy solstice]

Like 10% damage increased. Magnitude is 10

[wraith fox]

idk the value increase itself

but more magnitude = more debuff or buff power

[silk smelt]

shock is 20% more dmg. if you take a node that gives 20% magnitude your shock will be 24% more dmg

[mental briar]

More magnitude means the 20% becomes bigger

[wraith fox]

sounds right to me

[silk smelt]

but it doesnt matter if you hit for 1 damage or 100000, as long as you manage to shock it will still be 24% debuff

[wraith fox]

correct

[bold saffron]

so magnitude makes the 20% become higher, doing more damage makes that 20% get applied more frequently?

[livid hamlet]

Yes

[edgy solstice]

No

[bold saffron]

._.

[livid hamlet]

😄

[edgy solstice]

Chance is not same as applied effect

[wraith fox]

well the chance to shock is based on the lightning damage. Higher lightning damage = higher chance

[edgy solstice]

Chance is only chance

[livid hamlet]

he means that if you hit for more you will have bigger chance of applying the shock

and thus will apply it more often

which is correct

[edgy solstice]

But once you proc, increased magnitude

[bold saffron]

yeah thats what i was thinking about. i have this

[wraith fox]

that means all dmg can shock

[bold saffron]

yeah ik fire can shock too now

[wraith fox]

so pretty nice

[silk smelt]

this node just makes you be able to shock with fire and cold dmg (and physical etc)

[gray gyro]

do dots count as hits?

[livid hamlet]

No

[bold saffron]

so now im wondering whether i should increase raw dmg to make it shock more of ten

[gray gyro]

or only proj based stuff

[bold saffron]

or increase shock chance itself

[silk smelt]

if youre only using lightning damage then this node does absolutely nothing

[bold saffron]

which ones better

im using fire

[rustic mango]

Am I right to think that the chance to afflict an enemy with an ailment increases with the amount of damage done?

[silk smelt]

well yea if youre not shocking consistently enough you should try to do more damage

[bold saffron]

i know, but by increasing shock chance or dmg itself?

[silk smelt]

idk if stuff like fire wall can shock at all, probably not?

[rough kelp]

do mana tempest trigger crit? Like if the initial hit crit will it deal lightning dmg off that?

[livid hamlet]

yes

[silk smelt]

as in, i dont think it hits

[bold saffron]

idk which ones better to lean into

[livid hamlet]

Probably fire damage

[wraith fox]

if all dmg can shock, increasing your fire dmg will also increase your chance to shock. So if youre going fire dmg just increase fire dmg

[livid hamlet]

since it still increasaes your damage

but only fire damage

it's hard to say wihtout knowing your build well

[silk smelt]

well uh, doing more damage does two things - makes you shock more often and does more dmg (duh)

[bold saffron]

makes sense. im just wondering which does it better

[silk smelt]

but since you probably have 200%+ or more of "increased" already, that 12% is actually quite little

[bold saffron]

i hit a minor brick wall at cruel act 3 bcuz of this

[edgy solstice]

How does shock mechanic work

[bold saffron]

seemed to not apply shock enough

[wraith fox]

probably dmg, since that also increases your chance to shock

[silk smelt]

so for purposes of applying shock, the increased chance to shock is way stronger

[wraith fox]

And more dmg makes you clear faster instead of shocking more (but more dmg also makes you shock more)

[bold saffron]

so i can basically grab most of these nodes then

fire dmg fire dmg ignite etc etc?

[silk smelt]

i noticed my freeze suddenly get very inconsistent halfway through a3 cruel too, i had to put a damage gem on my frostbolt to fix it

[wraith fox]

sounds about right

[silk smelt]

if youre fire based then yea you probably want most of that cluster

[wraith fox]

but ignite dmg doesnt proc ailments

[bold saffron]

yeah i had the exact same issue lol

it gets more difficult

[wraith fox]

how good is elemental storms really

[gaunt ether]

Whats elemental ailment threshold?

Doesnt let me read info on it

[silk smelt]

apparently it does alot of dmg, i havent tried it yet

but i really want to try it out

[wraith fox]

im considering going into a cold dmg based sorceress or something

[bold saffron]

i felt it was powerful enough on its own idk

[silk smelt]

just afraid of spending a bunch of gold and getting disappointed

[wraith fox]

yeah

[silk smelt]

im just doing pure cold and it works well enough

clear is very nice with just frostbolt + cast on freeze

[zenith hornet]

hey folks question - im getting negative elemental resistance on my character and im not sure why? neither my skill tree nor gear sys i was gonna get negative resist. is this something that happens natually as you level?

[bold saffron]

if i deal one HUGE hit does the shock get applied immediately after the hit?

[neat scroll]

What's the best way to sustain as phys warrior? Flasks? Leech?

[bold saffron]

or does it calculate it immediately

[silk smelt]

i just need a better singletarget setup that doesnt rely on frost wall spam

[livid hamlet]

you lose resists are you progres through the game

it's just a penalty to make you gear more

[wraith fox]

depends if you rolled to shock or not. But a higher dmg hit will have a higher chance

[bold saffron]

lets say i roll it

[zenith hornet]

ah! ok thanks!

[wraith fox]

then you shocked

[livid hamlet]

Yes, it's right after

[bold saffron]

so will the 2nd hit do more dmg

[livid hamlet]

as in it doesn't apply to the shocking hit

[bold saffron]

or the 1st alrdy gets it

[livid hamlet]

yes

[bold saffron]

as it shocked

ok

[wraith fox]

But if youre asking if the shock gets applied after or before the dmg? then probably after

[still rock]

I dont think so since its dot

[wraith fox]

so hit -> shock

[bold saffron]

that makes my build much worse lol

i have to shock then big bonk

[wraith fox]

not register hit -> shock -> dmg

[bold saffron]

which is a lot of setup smh

[livid hamlet]

That's the name of the game

Path of Setups

2

[wraith fox]

setup doesnt sound too bad

shock then bonk

[bold saffron]

the problem is cast speed is VERY hard to come by in this game i figured

u get like 5-8%s

on bigger nodes

[still rock]

ive just been using lightning warp for the free shock ground

no reason not to

[silk smelt]

this is from a1 but still, kinda stupid how much dmg wall does 😂

[mortal cloak]

Can someone please, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase help me. I've asked this question ingame like 20+ times and not gotten 1 decent response.

[wraith fox]

what the hell

[livid hamlet]

BTW , bleed has it's own chance calculation , not based on the damage right ?

[wraith fox]

whats the question

[livid hamlet]

only the magniture uses the damage

[drifting ice]

Anyone here able to help me plan/fix my warrior?

[mortal cloak]

I've got a dex based mercenary, a little bit of strength, using frag shots and grenades....I need SOMETHING GOOD that I can use on the second weapon for a quick, easy, reliable freeze that I can get without needing high int/str @wraith fox

[wraith fox]

whats wrong with it

[mortal cloak]

I was using frost orb but my int is too low to keep using a caster staff right now

The frost barrage arrow from the bow is OK but not great

[wraith fox]

dont you have the cold shot or whatever its called

on the crossbow

[mortal cloak]

Using it + frag shot is dookie

and the cold shot on the bow is kinda dookie too tbh

[wraith fox]

cant you add a freeze multiplier on it

a support gem

[drifting ice]

feels like it could be optimized better to do what i want it to do.

[mortal cloak]

Yea but it's not good

[still rock]

only phys hit damage to life affects the bleed magnitude not the chance iirc

[livid hamlet]

Cold shot is mid tbh

[mortal cloak]

Frost orb is way, way better than the frost barrage shot but it's hard to keep Int to wear a caster staff as xbow

[livid hamlet]

yeah chance is separate right ?

[wraith fox]

Well if you do low cold dmg, youre gonna have a low chance to freeze anyways

[livid hamlet]

as in flat, based on additive modifiers

I want to make a bleed blood mage

[silk smelt]

yea i dont think you can get good freeze without an actual cold build

[livid hamlet]

but the ES shit

is kinda whack

[bold saffron]

whats the resistance cap i can deal to enemies? also 75?

[livid hamlet]

that i can't bleed people with it

[wraith fox]

how far in are you

[livid hamlet]

like it makes sense thematically

but not mechanically

[drifting ice]

act 3

[mortal cloak]

I feel like that's what they push you into with frag shot? It has a massive dmg multiplier against frozen

[wraith fox]

well an important question is how good is your weapon

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Chaotic_Freeze

theres this which seems promising

but youd have to be chaos hit based

[limpid yacht]

so anyone knows if gas grenade is good with crit

[wraith fox]

has anyone tried a bleeding build yet

[limpid yacht]

or elemental penetration is the way

[azure wyvern]

Warriors, try this on boneshatter

[rancid stag]

what can i do to make hp flasks useful when taking CI?

[bold saffron]

@cloud terrace ok i DEFINITELY want ignite with shock now lmao

[mortal cloak]

Would that make the gas grenade freeze a bunch ????

[bold saffron]

this can be massive uptime

permanent uptime???

[wraith fox]

you pinged another frosty 😭

[still rock]

idk gas grenade is confusing because it doesnt hit but it hits

[bold saffron]

bruh

[drifting ice]

it's as good as i've been able to find for a one handed club

[silk smelt]

well yea with ailment conversion you can change the cold condition to whatever other damage type, but the point still stands. you cant just stick a cold skill into your build without getting freeze buildup mods and stuff

[mortal cloak]

gas grenade is fucking insane at armor shredding I noticed last night

[wraith fox]

really good support gem, if you can shock and ignite consistently yeah

[livid hamlet]

People need to remember that the supported skill doesn't actually freeze with chaotic freeze

[mortal cloak]

Like if you drop a few grenades you get 100s of shred almost instantly against bosses

[bold saffron]

no i pinged u, u talked ab ignite ailment xd

[livid hamlet]

you need somthing that hits

a different thing

gas grenades don't chaos hit for enough

[wraith fox]

Kripparian has a minion build using that, and he said its perma

[livid hamlet]

but use it on chaos grenades and then some chaos attack

and it kinda works

[still rock]

yeah you use it on like contagion or something then deal chaos hits elsewhere

[livid hamlet]

that's why i'm waiting on dark pact tbh

[mortal cloak]

@wraith fox I think my best bet is the gemling ascension to use my other stat to equip gear and then I can use a caster staff + frost bolt eh?

[gaunt ether]

How do increase sockets on basic attack skill? Wont let me target it

[ancient moss]

whats even pinning. does it convert all fire explo dmg into physical?

[still rock]

yeah thatd be big dmg for the buildup

[azure wyvern]

it makes enemies don't move and count as immobilize

[wraith fox]

i wouldnt, but you could try it

[azure wyvern]

so enemies don't surround you anymore and you deal more dmg to them via passives

[hot niche]

Is there a way to spread contagion to reviving minions like skeletal warrior?

[mortal cloak]

frostbolt + frag shot was insane for level 1-25 but then I hit a spot where I couldn't equip my staff/spell anymore for low int and haven't been able to use it for a few levels lol

[livid hamlet]

gemling doesn't ignore equipment requirements, just skills

and supports

[wraith fox]

Well if youre not going into more cold dmg, you wont have a high chance to freeze. Your cold dmg is linked to your chance to freeze

Unless you go and get a lot of freeze buildup

but even then youre increasing a low number

instead of a high one

[ancient moss]

okay, currently im onetapping packs with boneshatter anyways so i dont need them to be immobilized.
but i guess it helps when packs would actually live longer

[mortal cloak]

Oh yea I was gonna use this and a monk staff to use frostbolt xD

Cuz it lets you use elemental skills with a monk staff equipped if im not mistaken

[azure wyvern]

still, against any boss. Making him not move for 4s is kinda huge

[livid hamlet]

You cna use them with crossbow as well @mortal cloak

[ancient moss]

oh it works on bosses. thats cool

[livid hamlet]

Spells don't require any kind of weapon

[mortal cloak]

It literally says you have the wrong weapon equipped?

[dawn spire]

Sell them to a vendor

[woven otter]

Do monster resistances have a cap?

[tropic river]

what is the benefit of this node? I don't get it

[dawn spire]

Yes, 75% by default

[mortal cloak]

the str requiement on gear turns into armor bonus

if im not mistaken

[wraith fox]

if you have boots with 50 strenght to equip, that now gives you armor

so you gain free armor

[livid hamlet]

i'm using firewall regularly from my crossbow

[dawn spire]

If a piece of gear requires 40 strength, it also gives you 40 armor with that node

[ancient mesa]

best ascendancy for grenade build guys?

[livid hamlet]

does frostbolt says that i needs a staff ?

[mortal cloak]

some stuff it lets you use no matter what like firewall is one but some stuff it'll say "wrong weapon equipped"

[wraith fox]

do spells even need a specific weapon?

[tropic river]

OHHHH thx, I thought that it meant that strength reqs would get added to my armour in the way that if my boots have 100 strength req, then the strength req of my armour would go up by 100

[obsidian merlin]

man pretty much 90% of my gear at lvl71 is the same gear I was using in A3 normal

[mortal cloak]

If you look at them it says some of them require a martial weapon, some require a range weapon, 1h weapon etc.....

[dawn spire]

If anyone claims to know what the best anything is at this point, they're full of shit.

Chronomancer, gemling, stormweaver, invoker, deadeye, pathfinder, infernalist, titan, and witch hunter all seem like solid options

[still rock]

nah

i was using it with a wand

[livid hamlet]

And bloodmage, don't forget blood mage

[mortal cloak]

that's been my biggest complaint, I am level 29 with multiple level 5 items and a level 9 unique chest lmao

[opaque zodiac]

does hinder only affect movement speed?

[dawn spire]

No, all spells are weapon-agnostic

[livid hamlet]

Crit multi and progenesis

[wraith fox]

i think im going to lvl a poison based ranger

into pathfinder

[still rock]

I love agnosticism

[dawn spire]

Hold alt over it to be sure, but I believe it's just movement speed

[wraith fox]

thought so

[mortal cloak]

??

[still rock]

Attack

[dawn spire]

That's an attack skill

[wraith fox]

what does the suffix "agnostic" mean in this scenario

[dawn spire]

Hover over it, right under the name it'll say attack, spell, or buff@mortal cloak

[still rock]

Neutral

[livid hamlet]

You literally said frostbolt my man @mortal cloak

[wraith fox]

thats a bow skill, not a spell

[livid hamlet]

which is a spell

[mortal cloak]

fuck's sake I didn't realize spells and attack skills were different

xD

[livid hamlet]

this is a totally different skill

[wraith fox]

:)

[dawn spire]

Without consideration

[wraith fox]

thank you

[mortal cloak]

thanks guys lmao

[livid hamlet]

[dawn spire]

Np. Holding alt and reading is your best friend in this game

[wraith fox]

im hyped for the higher orb drops that just arrived

[snow sierra]

what determins how mutch you can block if you use the block skill ?

[mortal cloak]

Man I been trying but god damn there's so much shit to learn @dawn spire

Esp since I didn't play poe1

[still rock]

You'll get there, we're all learning new stuff too

[wraith fox]

im still learning as i go

[still rock]

A large amt of mechanics are different

[wraith fox]

and im not even a super experienced poe1 gamer

[mortal cloak]

Slightly off topic for this channel but since you guys are here responding....is there a way to sort these?

This is kinda irritating me after I paid for this stash slot

[wraith fox]

well you can sort between uncut or not

thats about it

[analog spoke]

What is forking and terrain?

[wraith fox]

Forking means the projectile splits iirc

[mortal cloak]

I want the green together, blue together etc....but for some reason it sorts them manually when I deposit them..../facepalm

[wraith fox]

and terrain is wall, tree, rock

[copper pond]

Any Moltern Burst enjoyers? Its become my Go-to for warrior

[still rock]

Fork splits into three(?) projectiles that carry on past the original mob you hit in a cone pattern

[prisma sundial]

Hey guys, is there a viable build for playing bell-oriented monk?

[wraith fox]

dont tempt me more, im already trying to play 5 characters

[livid hamlet]

it's EA, give it time

[mortal cloak]

Mercenary people.....Armor/Evasion or Evasion/ES?

[livid hamlet]

but no, there isn't really a way of sorting these so far

[mortal cloak]

My OCD ..... lmao

[silent prawn]

I think they are still working on the Algorythm for sorting and stuff.
for skills it is already working great having all Minion stuff sorted together

[livid hamlet]

you can look them up via the search part

[copper pond]

We've got a year! Takes notes and keep pumpin

[dawn spire]

Energy shield is generally not great until endgame. Early on the gear doesn't give much base value and you have no reliable way to restore it

[mortal cloak]

It's super minor but paying for a stash slot and then not being able to sort it how I want is super irritating to me lol

[drifting ice]

Anyone here with Warrior expertise able to help me plan/fix my guy?

[still rock]

Trying to figure out how to leave work at noon today so i can play more math simulator

[leaden schooner]

Question the elemental nodes in passive tree that increase damage, do they work for monk also ?
It just says increases ele tbsp
Damage by x ect so surely that should increases that damage overall right ?

[bold saffron]

cool, half of my other effective health is in shield lmao xd

probably have to spec into shield recharge then

[livid hamlet]

Is there a way to have life leech translate to energy shield leech ?

[still rock]

I think faster start of es recharge is more valuable here tbh since boss fights take 2 minutes

[toxic walrus]

MoM is worth with mana stacking?

[livid hamlet]

well bloodmage has 10% of spell damage leeched as life

[dawn spire]

Hold alt to read more. Nothing in this game will ever care about what class you are (aside from what ascendancies you can get offered).

Skills have two main types; attacks and spells.

Damage can be dealt as either a hit or damage over time.

Damage will be some combination of the five damage types; fire, cold, lightning (collectively these three are "elemental"), physical, and chaos.

[livid hamlet]

so that's cute

[still rock]

oh damn

thats crazy

[ember orchid]

Hey, anybody know if you can target which "Buff" gems take prio?
Trying to optimise something due to losing some buffs due to losing spirit when switching weapon sets / demon form as infernalist. Currently it is keeping the lower priority buffs active.

[still rock]

does leech still bottleneck or did they change the formula

[livid hamlet]

no

supposedl

it's just leeched amount over 1sec now

but late game mobs have hidden leach resistance

[quaint marlin]

how can i share my gear/skill tree?

[limpid yacht]

just wondering, do we have dedicated Waypoint stash?

because map stash is gone from poe 2 right

[still rock]

thats a much better way to deal with it

[wide smelt]

yo, can someone give a tip which support gems to use with contagion (doing sorc chrono contagion ed), in act3 right now.

[still rock]

the bottleneck thing was just confusing

[dawn spire]

If you click the dps arrow and scroll to the bottom you can assign/unassign skills to weapon sets. You might be able to uncheck both for things you want to never activate

[dawn spire]

Magnification (the aoe one) and either persistence for duration or swift affliction for more damage

[wide smelt]

hmm I put SA on ED and persistence on wither for totem

[still rock]

shout out to contagion with hinder

its goated

[wide smelt]

does it work? I thought if skill doesnt hinder it doesnt slow, only improves the effect if its there

[still rock]

Wha

[radiant yarrow]

What can evasion not evade? I'm planning on taking CI once I get good gear but I'm wondering what would be why weaknesses. I could do fire, cold, lightning res but idk what is evaded amd what isn't

[leaden schooner]

Nice so I can take the elemental increases in this tree then focus on attack speed and stufff thanks

[still rock]

read Hinder support

[normal fable]

2h or 1h and shield while leveling a warrior early game?

[leaden schooner]

Aslong as it doesn’t specify spell ect

[dawn spire]

Then I'd use hinder or something for utility

[wide smelt]

oh, my bad. I thought you are talking about encumbrance. Hinder is rank 2 support, I have rank 1 yet

yeah when I get rank 2 supports I should put hinder then

[dusty bison]

Does this affect minion hits? From my understanding it should

[still rock]

I use mag effect because the spread range is ass

[wide smelt]

yeah I also use mag effect but struggle finding a second gem for it

[dawn spire]

No, but if your minions inflict the burn you get more damage against them

[still rock]

just wait till hinder its not a big deal

[wide smelt]

ye thanks

[still rock]

or u can do mag effect and expanse

if u can deal with the cd

[dawn spire]

Arcane tempo for smoother casting if it's not being used@wide smelt

[bold saffron]

does anyone here play warcry spam build?

[wide smelt]

using it with ED right now

Swift Affliction + arcane tempo

[dawn spire]

If you have a question, might be better to just ask instead of asking to ask

[still rock]

try chain on ed instead of tempo

much better

[wide smelt]

chain ruins the dps tho?

[still rock]

just the hit

[dawn spire]

Yeah, chain doesn't lower dot @wide smelt

[still rock]

which u dont care about

[mortal cloak]

All right time to see if it's still good with this build 😮

[wide smelt]

idk I tested on bosses and dps was pretty bad

[livid hamlet]

How's chaos caster right now anyway?

[still rock]

well early early on youre probably doing more hit damage than you would later

so thats fair

[wide smelt]

ah, hmm. Perhaps need to try it again then

[still rock]

but for clearing its very smooth

[wide smelt]

I tried it on draven act1

[still rock]

i used pierce early on

[wide smelt]

but for bossdps you need to swap it or its also fine even there?

[still rock]

cause i was still benefitting from the hit

but now i swapped to chain for smoother clear

[worn latch]

Is there a list of all passive key nodes?

[dawn spire]

Poe2db.tw might have it

[worn latch]

Thank U let me check

[still rock]

i havent even read the chayula dude nodes yet

[silent prawn]

I'm having fun on my Monk with Cont+ED

Sorry wrong ping ;D

[still rock]

does chayula dude have spell bonuses

[normal fable]

2h or 1h and shield while leveling a warrior early game?

[still rock]

or chao dmg?

[jolly shoal]

How does CONT+ED work in this game? does it feel smooth to play?

[bold saffron]

nah i JUST found an insane helmet for is in cruel act 3 xd

[livid hamlet]

why wrong ping ?

[near jewel]

guys, is anyopne playing totems warbringer? is is a good build for campaigne? and do some eraly mapping? os is ir a dead loss. in poe1 i played once totems cheftains and it was good

[silent prawn]

unreserved darkness gives chaosdmg

[livid hamlet]

that's chaos caster

[vital hornet]

I'm at Act 3 and I still use some gear from start of Act 1. Nothing feels worth it to swtich from +skill level items.

[distant glade]

Any good chaos builds ?

[silent prawn]

very. get some chaos dmg on weapon and mobs die plenty.
still tweaking Boss dmg

[wide smelt]

I think Zizzaran is playing totemic thing on his softcore character, can check his stream

[jolly shoal]

sounds good, I've yet to start the game, when do you get the skills?

[pulsar cape]

Any new player monk want a god rolled quaterstaff?

[near jewel]

well....im not mucch of streamers viewer...i mean regular people who have jobs and families and stuff to do....

[pulsar cape]

You gotta make them yourself bro

[still rock]

for the first time ever in poe history i dont recommend it to noobs as of now, you have to push and manage a lot of debuffs to keep dmg okay on bossing

[silent prawn]

as soon as you get uncut skill gems. just scroll to Occult

[jolly shoal]

what debuffs? wither etc?

[silent prawn]

apparently Poison is also transfered by Cont

[near jewel]

so , anyone here actually plaing totems?

[wide smelt]

he has a short guide videos on his channel if you dont want to watch the stream but fine with a guide

[opaque zodiac]

is there a way to inflict brittle?

[near jewel]

okk, i will google it!

[near jewel]

and what do YOU think about it for an old noob?

[distant glade]

Is anyone playing a chaos build? How is it ?

[radiant pumice]

How do you get Meta gem like Cast on Freeze?
I'm lvl 40 and I've never seen them. Do you drop it? Craft it? How? 😄

[wide smelt]

no idea honestly, but if you want to roll a warrior it seems to be much more likely to succeed than self casting slammer or smth

[wraith fox]

How does poisonburst arrow work with pierce. does it explode on the first hit still? and then burst a 2nd time?

[wide smelt]

because regular warrior seems to be ass, I rerolled from it on act 3 after trying to do chaos trials

[still rock]

DE with withering touch, despair self cast, temp chains blasphemy (dont have to cast but have to manage the area to keep buffs up), Contagion, ED, Profane ritual, and im using lightning warp for the free 20% shock ground

[wraith fox]

i found out. It does indeed burst on the first shot and the next target hit if it pierces

[still rock]

I'm also playing it as chronomancer so no damage from ascendancy

[silent prawn]

works

[silent prawn]

Uncut Spirit gem, scroll to elemental

[vital hornet]

lvl 2?

[ember orchid]

king shit, thank you :)

[silent prawn]

lvl 7 or 8

[silk dust]

Is there a guild early game for Ranger ? I cant decide which skill should i used

[still rock]

is/are there supports that remove the corpse requirement for spells that cast from corpses?

[silent prawn]

only one, chance to not consume corpse

[old shuttle]

Yeah no desecrate thing yet

[still rock]

ugh

I need it for profane ritual to make bossing not annoying as fuck

[tropic cove]

for a minion build, should I take +2 to level of all minion skills, or 30 extra spirit?

[old shuttle]

Tough choice

[silent prawn]

+2 seems more useful.

[old shuttle]

Probs +2

[still rock]

30 spirit most likely isnt giving you another minion

are there any under 30?

[tropic cove]

true

[old shuttle]

Cause say a 20% multiplier from the 2 levels going from say 10->12 vs MAYBE a minion

[radiant pumice]

I have Uncut Support Gem, uncut Skill Gem - but I've never seen uncut Spiri Gem... wtf. How did I di this?

[tropic cove]

thanks!

[old shuttle]

So if it gets a minion then spirit

[near jewel]

so basically NOONE here is playing warrior totems.....

😦

[old shuttle]

My friend is. Seems solid

But melee is so sad for sekhemas RN

[silent prawn]

What Act are you in?

[hidden siren]

totems in general look to be not that great imo

[radiant pumice]

End of Act 3

[still rock]

totems die too ez so far, and feels like poop to invest passives in them

[silent prawn]

you should have gotten at least one from King of the Mist in Act 1.
a second one lvl 7 in Act 2 (for Cast on Freeze)

[hidden siren]

they are also stationary

when ur never standing in one place, a skill that requires u to be stationary is dumb

[still rock]

wait what

[near jewel]

ok , i saw zizaran video, totems look damn strong tbh 😦

[still rock]

why do you have to not move

[near jewel]

u placed them, u run around dodging mechanics of bosses for example

[opaque zodiac]

does shocked ground from invoker contribute to cast on shock?

[barren badger]

Is Demon Form Chaos Damage Viable route? Like , is there enough ways to scale Chaos Damage?

[old helm]

Does anyone know if Ghost dance - monk support buff - is giving 5% of evasion rating or evasion chance as shield?

[hidden siren]

how long do they last tho

[opaque zodiac]

evasion rating

[still rock]

like around 8s i think

[autumn spruce]

What rage gives exactly?

[near jewel]

8 seconds\

[silent prawn]

Lots. I pathed a Monk with Chaos and got up to 334 chaos dmg
and Demon Form is like the Burst button

[near jewel]

8 seconds base duration

[waxen stump]

is incinerate the only source of fire exposure?

[hidden siren]

cast time on totems is longer too i just dont think its worth with how many downsides it has. u have to really specialize into it

[wraith fox]

i wish that when searching for poison on the passive tree, it could also show me nodes that work with posion but doesnt specifically mention it. Like theres a node called "fast acting toxins" that makes ailments do dmg faster, but searching for "poison" doesnt find it. but searching for "ailments" also show every single elemental ailment node

[hidden siren]

it can prob work but ur playing as a warrior i would expect u to want to play melee not a totem spammer

[near jewel]

like a pure totems build, no dmg yourself, u can cast them instntly if u go all out totems

[barren badger]

Can't you run Demon Form as stable DPS? With 10 demonflame limit it seems like a permament buff

[waxen stump]

just gotta have 5%sec life regen and you can

[silent prawn]

sure, just needs some Life reg I guess

[still rock]

molten blast, explosive conc

as per the db

[orchid torrent]

I have an item giving me extra 100 spirit (act3 40lvl sorc), but not much to use spirit on. Is there any point in getting minions just to spend the spirit or are they too weak if you dont spect into them

[barren badger]

So far i run Unique Chest that converts half of my HP to Energy shield. And boots with 20hp regen. Barely keeps up with Demon Form drain

[still rock]

obviously have to be pathfinder for explosive concotion tho

[hidden siren]

oil grenades

[still rock]

oh thats nice

[near jewel]

now, whats you r philosophy then, should I give it a try, totems i mean , or try t run sth other ppl run and have good experience with; without experimenting?

[still rock]

oil grenade is a slow too, right?

that might be the best utility if you just need something to exposure

oh it requires xbow lmao nvm

weapon swap

[livid hamlet]

weapon swap is automatic

[hidden siren]

yeha im using oil nades with strip away

[livid hamlet]

if you use a skill of a different weapon

it's very smooth

just have both skills where you can use them

[still rock]

i havent done that yet ill have to try it

[livid hamlet]

and it will automaticlly swap the weapon to the skill that you want

i ran bow + crossbow for lighting merc

[hidden siren]

yep im using leap slam with 1h mace and shield while main is xbow

[livid hamlet]

and it's nice

[still rock]

you set skill x to wep 1 and skill y to wep 2 and you just press the skills and it auto swaps?

thats nutty

[livid hamlet]

you have both skills on your toolbar

and you char will automatically swap the weapon

[hidden siren]

^

[still rock]

poggers

[livid hamlet]

if the skill that you use requires it

[dull spade]

when calculating efficient energy intervalls how does the game calculate energy? does it round down or up? not at all?

[autumn belfry]

I was looking through Acolyte of Chayula Monk, found barely anything cause of a lack of chaos skills that make sense for a monk playstyle, but I found this:
"Hand of Chayula" - applies socketed marks and curses
and general occult
"Hexblast" - well.. its hexblast, remove curses on target, make explosion
could this even work?

[still rock]

well then oil grenade sounds good for general use

idk why youd ever use incinerate

unless youre scaling incinerate for dmg

atleast until spell totems exist

[still rock]

game always rounds against you (down)

[hidden siren]

oil nades has exposure slow and also ignites

[still rock]

(but also up sometimes but only when rounding up is against you)

iirc

[static plinth]

Id assume Energy is like Flask Charges and doesnt round. If it does, it rounds down

[north gull]

does ranger or monk have more mobility?

[livid hamlet]

only mobility that classes have

is from ascendancies

so ranges has some

[hidden siren]

my combo to kill rares and bosses is oil nade gas nade and then explosive nades and it deals a lot of dmg

[still rock]

deadeye seems zoomie

[livid hamlet]

but everything else is available for everyone

[static plinth]

Neither instrinsically has more, though Pathfinder gains Slow immunity and lessens the impact using a skill has on your movement speed

[orchid torrent]

do skeletal frost mages benefit from all my frost damage passives, as an ice sorc who hasnt done any minion passives or things

[still rock]

no

[orchid torrent]

I have a 100 spare spirit and nothing to spend it on

[still rock]

general rule of thumb in poe is that any modifiers that solely affect You do not affect minions unless explicitly stated

[shadow hill]

Can u build a tanky character that uses minions? Or is that too stretched out or not viable?

[still rock]

do a barrier invocation

[dull spade]

I used chat gpt to make a combination to calculate "crits required" on comet and came up with this
https://i.imgur.com/IyVhOhN.png

[autumn belfry]

another monk question:
can we curse the monk bell? lol
to hexblast it maybe

[dull spade]

assuming this we would want the total 55% i guess?

[orchid torrent]

what's that - I already have arctic armour and that uses 30 out of my 130 spirit

[still rock]

its a meta gem

[still rock]

i need context

im tired and wanna go home to play more poe 😦

[dull spade]

Key Variables:
Base energy per crit:
10
10.
8% nodes available:
5
5.
15% node available:
1
1.
Total energy required:
153.8461538
153.8461538.

[graceful stag]

Anyone able to get 100% crit with blood mage yet? I'm 🧑‍🍳

[still rock]

you can probably get much higher energy increase as invoker

i think invoker is gunna be the defacto meta gem ascendancy

[dull spade]

yeah i am stormweaver tho

[still rock]

f

[wintry umbra]

Is there ANYWAY to see the rewards (stats ove chosed from all quest) and also is there any way to change them?

[still rock]

9 crits sounds easy with EoW

tho

thats like a millisecond

whats the internal cd of CoC

[dull spade]

So the point is that with above table at 55% icnreased energy it tells me i need 9.9 crits so I wonder how many talents to actually spend on energy icnreased nodes in order to optimize CoC

[still rock]

and can it be lowered in any way

[still rock]

yeah this all depends on the internal Cd

[severe drum]

hey did they nerf the infernalist stuff? or did my buddy mess something up by accident?

[still rock]

and your crit %

[dawn spire]

I think you can change the act 2 emblem reward by going there and swapping. As for checking I think you can open the world map with U and mouse over all the + icons to see what you got

[tight lake]

Im looking for a way to build power charges easy, so I can use on boss and mobs. Right now I am using the bows Marked skill to apply a mark and generate a frenzy charge on crit that gets converted to a power charge via passive skill tree. I want a way to guarantee a single critical hit. Best way I found is for a support gem that crit at full health. but applying the mark puts the enemy away from full health. Is there a way to remove damage from my bow or marked skill gem?

[wintry umbra]

And what about the other ones, there is some quest that gave extra spirit option no?

[dawn spire]

Those should be listed next to the plus, shouldn't they? I'm not at my pc so I can't verify

[still rock]

its not option, you get 100 spirit total from quests

last one is act 3 cruel

[wintry umbra]

?? next to the plus? im lost

[still rock]

well technically i guess you can not use the quest item so TECHNICALLY its an option

xD

[waxen stump]

if using pyro pact, you cant use the slot for you mana pot for something else? feels bad

[dawn spire]

Lingering illusion is a chill way to get power charges (spirit gem).

As for the crit, I think there's a T3 support that consumes a certain ailment to guarantee a crit

[wintry umbra]

So, basically if in campaign i chose some stats, and then in end game, those stats doesnt fit my build, i need to create a new character?

[still rock]

?

its not an option

[dull spade]

the skill gem doesnt say any cooldown

[dawn spire]

Hover over the 'i' in the top left of the world map

[still rock]

you just get them

[leaden salmon]

When I get this for my nades. Do they then cost x2 to use? Since its adding 1 extre projectile/granade? Or is it the same cost?

[dawn spire]

I guess? But the things you choose are very unimpactful imo

[still rock]

hm i would imagine there is one

cause 9 crits sounds really easy/fast with a lot of skills

[tight lake]

So i was using Lingering illussion but with ghost shroud active, it was not creating a clone. I couldn't find the interaction why. I had enough spirit and both were active

[wintry umbra]

Man idk, what are you pointing up to, im asking if i can see the decisions i took on the extra stats from secondary quests.

[wraith fox]

same cost

[meager tulip]

Does plasma blast only work if theres a wall? Does it not do damage directly?

[main bridge]

hi there, is there a website with the passive skill tree i can put points into?

[dawn spire]

Yes. And I'm saying the secondary quest rewards are visible on the map screen and denoted by the greyed out icons with + symbols next to them.

The info panel in the upper left describes this and shows you what the icon looks like

[still rock]

@dull spade https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cast_On_Critical_Strike_Support#Effective_cooldown_&_cooldown_thresholds

(Assuming it works the same way)

[high relic]

how does the critical hit chance works? enemies have any kind of reduction chance or just stacks? (with those 4 nodes you have 55%?)

[dawn spire]

Hold alt and hover over that underlined text. Read the last paragraph

[still rock]

but maybe they removed the internal cd with the energy system

someone would have to confirm or test

[dawn spire]

Poe2db.tw and maxroll have them, I think

[wintry umbra]

Again, I DONT WANT TO KNOW WICH QUESTS GIVES BONUS, i want to know wich bonus do they gave me already.

[severe drum]

what should infernalists use cast on minion death now?

[still rock]

maxroll allows you to save them to your profile, much better than poe2db as of now

[dawn spire]

It shows you what bonuses you picked mate

[dawn spire]

You have to hover over them and it'll tell you what you got.

[high relic]

Oh, thanks! I've hover a lot of text, but I thought that one was pretty clear... BUT NOPE 😂

[dawn spire]

Thats the only way to see what you picked from quests as far as I'm aware

[hazy orchid]

Can i do ultimatum as my third trial?

[wintry umbra]

I go to map, and top left the I, opens a map legend, and i cannot hover any of them, they only tell me what kind of symbols i can find on the map, it doesnt say anything about stats or anything.

[still rock]

When someone makes a new character there should be a giant pop up that says USE ALT, HOVER UNDERLINE in big red flashing letters

[hazy orchid]

What monster level does it have to be tho

[high relic]

And how can I check my "base crit chance"? Because I cant see that on my character screen and I'm not sure if I'm blind or what

[sacred sail]

@tropic river that's what my tree is for now 🤔 anything I didn't took I thought it didn't bring lot of value or at least didn't understood it

[hazy orchid]

i just did 65 monster lvl and 7 trials and couldnt get the points

[dawn spire]

Yes, I only said to hover over that so you can see what the '+' icon looks like. Then you go through acts 1-6 and mouse over all the symbols with that + icon to see what you got from each quest

[still rock]

for spells its on the spell tooltip, for attacks its taken from your weapon

its on your weapon tooltip

under attack time

[peak ice]

Is there any cast on melee stun things that would be fun with warrior, I am doing heavy stun with devastate into sunder, seems like might be worth putting something like seismic cry on it or maybe some sort of curse

[burnt finch]

for charged staff + tempest flurry monk, should I be going all in on crit or lightning damage?

[dawn spire]

Did you have 4 or 6 ascendancy points prior to entering?

[hazy orchid]

yeah i have 4 spent

[still rock]

yes

[dawn spire]

Hmm. That should have given you two more

[sacred sail]

do monsters crit a lot ? do I need anti crit on the tree

[still rock]

🙂

[dawn spire]

I don't think we know yet

[fiery sable]

Guys, is it possible to have different acendancy layouts for 2 weapon sets?

[still rock]

im point starved as it is i sure as hell am not spending it on anti crit

lmao

[dawn spire]

No

[peak ice]

Maybe snipers mark for cast on melee stun, so when you get the guaranteed crit from sunder they eat more damage

[sacred sail]

no

[hazy orchid]

well that sucks

[burnt finch]

nah but for real, anyone done some quick maffs on this?

[sand walrus]

how should i build my character around this staff? i respecced but i was going down a lightning monk anyway.

[sour basin]

would martial tempo supp gem make leap slams animation faster??

[still rock]

They are not mutually exclusive

[fiery sable]

Also, I'm thinking about having a secondary weapon set for the ranger just to apply marks, will the boosted effect on the marks be available even after a switch to main weapon?

[still rock]

thats why i said Yes

[burnt finch]

I know but Im level 40 atm so I have to chose either or

[orchid torrent]

Are there any minions that dont suck if you havent specced into minions? I just want something to waste my spirit on

[agile zephyr]

Why cant I put my attribute point in this node? Previous node is unlocked. Looks like some nodes i can put my points into and some not. Any ideas?

[dawn spire]

Depends on the final numbers and your gear. I'd wager that crit gets exponentially better as you get more base chance and crit damage nodes. Lightning scales harder early

[still rock]

crit is something you invest in lategame

[north gull]

what should my first support gem be on monk

[burnt finch]

thanks boys

[dawn spire]

You've allocated points from weapon sets in a way that makes your tree wonky. You cannot build your main tree off of a weapon set node

[peak ice]

Yes

[sacred sail]

do you think it's worth it ? I can get two fo those for three points

[still rock]

I dont like that they renamed some things

[proper seal]

which is better for a monk? lvl 16

[dawn spire]

If you have no plan in mind, pick whichever one support your main skill and looks cool

[sour basin]

is there a better support gem you know of which does the same thing but better?

[still rock]

like why is faster attacks called martial tempo now i dont want to use my brain to remember things

[dawn spire]

Not really

[north gull]

how do i pick a main skill?

[fiery sable]

I'm thinking about having a secondary weapon set for the ranger just to apply marks, will the boosted effect on the marks be available even after a switch to main weapon?
It should work the same as other debuffs, dunno if the duration is updated upon changing weapon

[dawn spire]

You don't, I just mean the one you like the most or use the most so far

[peak ice]

for leap slam I use holy descent, inspiration(the one that makes it cheaper) and martial tempo

[old oriole]

is any helmet that has either cast speed/freeze build up/area of effect/max mana+/increased cold damage

[still rock]

Whats the boost and how does it read

[north gull]

how bad is it to go into my first charactger wtih no build in mind

i wanna get the fullk experieence

[proper seal]

which is better for a monk? lvl 16

[peak ice]

It is doable, although melee might be tough

[fiery sable]

I hope that at least the duration and effect persists

[still rock]

Yes those would work

[sour basin]

i meant for the attack animation speed i have no cost issue i just wanna be able to spam it a little faster as even with "attack without moving" selected i still do a slow run forward before i leap

[fiery sable]

that's nuts then, thanks, will be a huge boost for my build.

[agile zephyr]

Is there any way to remove those weapon set nodes? That part is so confusing to me anyway

I’m assuming the weapon set nodes are the ones with green lines?

[still rock]

I think the only application it might be iffy is if it said Mark skills with X weapon and you swapped off that weapon type

[dawn spire]

I mean, that's what everyone else did day 1 kinda. And most people are having a blast.

Just be sure to hold alt and read as much as you can. Especially later on. Early game refunding points is easy, but later on it gets costly. Learn as much as you can

[north gull]

oki

[old oriole]

anyone??

[north gull]

is this just for this skill/attack? or all of them

[fiery sable]

It's the same type, both are bows, does it ignore the swap animation?

[dawn spire]

I don't see any green lines in that shot. Can you show a Pic of the upper right where it shows your passive points and weapon set points?

[north gull]

are people leaning towards frost for monk?

[dawn spire]

Some are, yeah

[still rock]

No youre fine i was just saying hypothetically

theres no reason it wouldnt work the way youre wanting it to

that i can think of atleast

[north gull]

what about others?

[austere shell]

Guys im going to get the game but Im wondering what path/build I should do.

[dawn spire]

The game is 4 days old. There is no meta. Do what looks cool. If you want to do big dam, then make sure you read and ask questions and read.

[fiery sable]

awesome, thanks 😄
I was about to ignore the whole weapon swap thing, but this ranger mechanic should work quite nice with it

[north gull]

does this gem support damage debuff count towards just htis skill or all of my skills

[dawn spire]

See the answer I gave someone else right below your question

[agile zephyr]

Sorry for crappy pic. Circled the green lines as they’re hard to see. Thanks for your help 🙂

[sour basin]

I can see a cold/freeze buildup playstyle could be strong since I'm on warrior and focusing full stun buildup so I run in right click (basic attack) and that's enough to proc my bones hatter which clears enemies and even if it doesn't it usually stuns them so I can reposition or attack again so I'm sure a freeze focused build could be similar

[austere shell]

Thanks brotha

[still rock]

oh wait

[dawn spire]

Read all the text on a support gem. It only affects the supported skill

[still rock]

are you meaning that youre swapping the nodes in your tree as well

[north gull]

so then why would less fire and lightning damage be important on a skill that is only cold?

[still rock]

cause if so, then no it wont persist after weapon swap

[fiery sable]

yes

[still rock]

ok my b i thought you meant just weapon swapping with the same tree

[dawn spire]

It looks like you might have been trying to allocate a weapon set node but not anymore. You have one free main point. Try to allocate it

[still rock]

when you swap to your other tree you lose the bonuses from said tree instantly

[fiery sable]

different tree, but from the same type, still it is somewhat likely to work, gotta test

[fiery sable]

really?

even for debuffs?

[still rock]

i mean yeah

why would you get extra points for free

[fiery sable]

dunno how the game treats it

[agile zephyr]

I’m not sure. If I hover over the free node it says i dont meet the requirements. On some other nodes it seems to work

[fiery sable]

if the instance of the debuff is applied, perhaps changing the tree wouldn't effect it

[still rock]

Test and lmk cause id be interested to see

[opaque horizon]

Does the warrior blood whatever that lets you use a 2 hander as a 1 hander count as dual wielding?

[fiery sable]

will do

[still rock]

my inclination is that it would not persist through the swap but its a good thing to test ingame

[dawn spire]

Sorry to ask this again, but can you get a Pic of your entire tree?

[still rock]

and this time use a Nokia from 2001

[dawn spire]

You cannot assign a main node if it's built on a weapon set node

[still rock]

[tropic river]

yeah this looks decent to me 👍 nothing big I would really changer here at all, I do think you're underestimating these 5 mace cluster nodes though, first 3 mainly but 4th and 5th are strong too,although they are only good for bossing really so if you only want mobbing then yeah skiå them, I also do think one single point in rage on hit is worth, because as I said just one point can be enough to fully stack rage, it's unlikely but the potential reward is insane for a single skill point if it does happen

[still rock]

if you use it to dual wield then yes lol

[mortal cloak]

If both of these are selected how does it base which of your passive tree is getting used? The weapon skill points got me kinda confused I think xD

[dawn spire]

It uses the set you're currently using

[celest oxide]

For Lightning Rod levelling so I NEED to wait til I have 2 Storm Runes to upgrade my weapon

Or is a +Phys% rune just as good

Since phys damage is getting converted to lightning

[main bridge]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/8d3o1034 i use lightning bows as a mercenary, what do people think about my giga sick build idea so far 😛

[dawn spire]

It's not as good, but it's fine

[sacred sail]

WTF i didn't see the points behind, never mind I'm rushing this asap !

[celest oxide]

Damn that sucks, finding a storm rune feels literally impossible lol

[ashen rampart]

anyone here has a good pathfinder build? im at the manor in act 1 and my build sucks and struggling so hard (not even enjoying the game now)

[celest oxide]

I might just hold out

[still rock]

bruh same

[dawn spire]

Well, it might be better if you have a bow with like 33+ average physical damage...

@celest oxide

[still rock]

i wonder if the weight is lower

on storm

i have like 20 cold ones

[celest oxide]

Hmm interesting

I’ll check out after this map

[orchid torrent]

it might just be items, you can be like 4-5x stronger or weaker just based on the limited random drops

[still rock]

we could also just be unlucky

[celest oxide]

+Phys is better than add fire or cold damage tho right

I have a blue dual string finally

With a good roll

And a regal orb

[agile zephyr]

Of course! The red circled node is the one i’m trying to get. I’m not quite sure why it wouldn’t work. Even if there was a weapon node before that, shouldn’t that be somehow visible? Or am i missing something

[celest oxide]

Upgrading time finally

[gray patrol]

Does anyone know the math behind shock chance? Trying to figure out when arc is better than spark for cast with shock specifically

[tropic river]

I mean if you care about a 15% increase then you are also still missing this node which I told you about two or three times, 25%

[mortal cloak]

If I want to run frag shot and grenades and I wanted to split my points where I had grenades skills and then bow reload speed/etc....would I need to use two xbows then?

[dawn spire]

To add on, if you leave just set 1 checked, it will swap to set 1 if you're on set 2 upon using that skill. So if you want to only use a skill with a certain weapon set, uncheck the one you don't want.

[still rock]

So is this the third or fourth time

[sacred sail]

yep I was thinking I may have too much % dmg if its like poe 1, I need to think more about it

[dawn spire]

Yes

[tropic river]

don't remember

[still rock]

I kid I kid

[sacred sail]

@tropic riverdid you play poe 1?

[tropic river]

yeah

[mortal cloak]

If I use an xbow that gives me reload +1 amount and one with +1 grenade, I would get the benefit of both if I assigned the skills appropriately?

[cursive totem]

Does anyone know how evasion scales in poe2? Are calculations any different from poe1?

[dawn spire]

Okay, yeah, it looks like the str node to the left is allocated via a weapon set node. You cannot assign nodes off of it. You can turn it back into a main tree node for free at the hooded one (refund points)

[dawn spire]

I'm not sure

I think it would

[still rock]

Depends on the accuracy of the mob

[cursive totem]

Well that aside, is the calculation for % chance to evade the same?

[tropic river]

this is true yeah, but you said "the nodes behind" about the mace cluster, and the nodes behind are 8% chance to aftershock and 15% increased, so I didn't think you would have thought that was THAT good

[ashen rampart]

But then what is the fun here? i cant even progress

[dawn spire]

It's visible. The connecting lines are orange instead of yellow. Orange = set 1. Blue/green = set 2

[sacred sail]

I thought the 5th one was aftershock too xD

[orchid torrent]

you probably still can, but if not farm a little and get better gear from town

[tropic river]

ah makes sense

[orchid torrent]

hm I got a skeletal frost mage and he literally doesn't even move the health bar on a mob if I leave him on the mob for 5m

[sacred sail]

read the fourth one and went crazy

[cursive totem]

Meaning like, having 7k evasion on poe1 gives the same amount of % chance to evade as it would in poe2?

[severe drum]

how does frozen wall damage scale?

[vale heart]

does blocking have an animation/cancel your channeling spell?

[still rock]

It's also an interesting wording difference that PoE1 is Evading "attacks" and PoE2 is Evading "strikes and projectiles"

[dawn spire]

Yes. That's what happens when you block a hit that would have stunned you

[still rock]

Idk the formula I doubt anyone has that info yet

[vale heart]

oh just then? so I can channel my bonestorm and if I block random hits its fine?

[dawn spire]

With the tags listed on the gem

[weary fog]

Question, Im selling rings and charms for 4 augs each, the site has them listed for 1 aug each. Am I underselling? Are the ones listed on the site lies? Theyre selling really well.

[dawn spire]

Yep

[ashen rampart]

but gear in town is only purple. that is worse than yellow and I have 3 yerllow pieces. but they drop so rarely

[cursive totem]

Rip, I needed to check if it's worth running some evasion based gear

[vale heart]

okey tyty

[tiny sluice]

Has anyone thought about making a Titan minion build with the small passive = + 50% I would think you could get good minion damage... or would your spirit be crippled with no ascendancy spirit buff?

[severe drum]

yeah but do you want it with more hp or less?

[still rock]

Do it and see if it feels good or not

Experiment!!!!

for science!!!!

[broken eagle]

This might be a dumb question but do i build around a unique or do i build and find a unique for it?

[tropic river]

but yeah I think those aftershock chance ones are really good, although as I said they're only really good for rares/bosses since the damage is delayed and inconsistent, so if you don't need more bossing at all then it's fien to skip

[cursive totem]

Probably what I'll do

[severe drum]

does it do damage scaling off the frost wall hp

[dawn spire]

Depends on what you're using it for. If you want it to explode, less is better

[dawn spire]

I'm not at my pc, but it should say on the gem what it scales from

[severe drum]

but how much damage does it do per hit and how much when destroyed

it doesnt give numbers like bell

[still rock]

I've been playing PoE via vibes for a decade I dont need Path of Building

[agile zephyr]

Oh well looks like you were right! The lines were actually thicker. Thank you very much! Any idea, why two of the lines of in the picture are green though?

[dawn spire]

The gem should say all of that

[orchid torrent]

dont care for color so much, it's the bonuses that matter. If something gives like +to skills or big energy shield or whatever it's way better than a rando yellow/orange

also town gear is rng but you can find a lot of your best stuff there if you check on every level

[dawn spire]

Those are assigned to weapon set 2

So they're not actually doing anything unless you're using your second set

[severe drum]

it says 71 to 100 damage

[dawn spire]

Read the yellow text for how the mechanics work

[sacred sail]

I'm trying to getr more area of effect to help with clearing and be sure my big ability don't miss on boss

[agile zephyr]

Alright. So i made a complete mess. Thanks for helping

[ashen rampart]

thanks! whaat do you mean if you check on every level?

[dawn spire]

You're still early on, there could be way bigger messes

[severe drum]

"if the crystals are damaged enough it will explode" no numbers are given

[dawn spire]

Vendor inventories reshuffle every time you level up

[ashen rampart]

oh I didnt knew!

[dawn spire]

Yep, so damage doesn't scale with crystal health

[flat coral]

If you put a curse in blasphemy to make it an aura is it affected by aura passives and curse passives?

[dawn spire]

Yes

[split stump]

is it worth replacing the yellow with any of those? I am warrior early game, was thinking the bottom right one MAYBE

[orchid torrent]

I believe town vendors refresh gear when you level up (tho idk all the conditions for when they refresh what they sell)

[still rock]

This tree is so so so much more intuitive for noobs imo, they mustve done a lot of playtesting with a lot of non-poe players

[flat coral]

wowza thanks

[dawn spire]

Until they assign weapon set points 😛

[severe drum]

thats not what I mean, when you hit it, it reflects dmage like monk bell but it doesnt say how much

[still rock]

Yes thats a mess

[agile zephyr]

Yeah for sure, this was easy fixable at least. Thank you very much!

[still rock]

But the layout of the tree and the passive nodes themselves make a lot more sense

[dawn spire]

No it does not. It only does damage when it shatters (ie, runs out of health)

[still rock]

and its harder to fuck yourself

[dawn spire]

Post a Pic of the gem tooltip please

[severe drum]

ok ty

[worn latch]

Anyone know a good tanky gem legionnaire build focusing on str and damage reduction?

[severe drum]

I got it on spanish

[static plinth]

The only thing i hate about current tree is how many attribute nodes you have to take

[slow kayak]

HAS ANYONE GOTTEN DECAYING HEX to work as an aura with blasphemy or wtf am i doing wrong?!?!?

[static plinth]

It doesnt work

[still rock]

It dont

[tropic river]

well yeah that works but getting these nodes would do way more probably, but yeah getting some aoe is really nice for mobbing

[dawn spire]

No me importa, quiero practicar

[still rock]

Send me ur tree im tryna compare my ed bois

[slow kayak]

Why doesnt it work? Or is it just bugged??

[still rock]

Here actually ill make a thread

one sec

[sacred sail]

I will take those !

[tropic river]

this can be good too for trash mobs if you are stunning trash mobs easily, which can actually be hard to know/check but yeah, I also don't know if this works if the hit is enough to stun them but it's also enough to kill them... probably not, if they died they probably can't count as having been stunned

[static plinth]

Im assuming its coded as "curses you cast yourself" but Dexaying Hex's description doesnt reflect as such

[dawn spire]

Sí, explotan si reciben daño suficiente, no con todos los veces que reciben daño

[jaunty idol]

Does increased fire damage increase the damage of ignite?

[severe drum]

vale vale, muchas gracias, pues mi amigo infernalista va a ir con eso

[dawn spire]

Buena suerte a él/ella

[eternal vapor]

is it worth spending one point on this? (playing poison ranger)

[slow kayak]

ty

[celest oxide]

Is the new patch already live???

[static plinth]

Up to you. Basically one second DoTs dont exist to you but if they're longer they're way more dangerous

[still rock]

@static plinth https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1316077636866412625

[static plinth]

Based, loading the game to grab my tree

[jaunty idol]

Does increased fire damage increase the damage of ignite?

[eternal vapor]

i thought it was the other way around

but idk how many enemies late game would dot me

[azure saffron]

for "Cast on X" skills, does the "base cast speed" part mean the cast speed of the spell before your cast speed is applied?

[tropic river]

no, but it makes the fire damage of the hit bigger which does in turn make the ignite bigger, assuming there was a fire hit that caused the ignite

[dawn spire]

Yes

[late osprey]

if i hold alt on chayula monk's "into the breach" it says quality can affect it. but is there really a way to increase it's quality?

[azure saffron]

thanks

[jaunty idol]

Yeah that was my thinking so for flame wall and incinerate it would icnrease the damage because its ignite as if the spell did x damage, so increasing x increases the ignite

[static plinth]

Quite a few, but 1 second DoTs are pretty rare, and if its like PoE1 you need to lose ALL DoTs on you to reproc it, you cant gain multiple DoTs and constantly reset the damage being taken

[sacred sail]

@tropic riverI found some nice synergy, daze support on infernal cry, and gems that fully break armour on the ability I use for stunning bosses (melee attack for now)

oh maybe I can't fully proc it

need to see

the icons always appeared, I assumed they were dazed

🤔

[weary fog]

Is this a good ring to wear as a merc? IDK what accuracy does

[dawn spire]

Hold alt and read about it

[rapid seal]

Hi guys for shockwave totem what are good level 1 support gems currently usi ng brutality and inspiration

[tropic river]

dazing cry means they'll be dazed 100%, and then you can heavy stun them more easily, should work just as you think, it's a good synergy

[manic sonnet]

hey, does somebody know if cold penetration increases chill and freeze buildup?

[tidal copper]

Probably!

[frail cloak]

okay so, I regret going with pyromantic. The demon form is bugged and disable all skills and items, can't even summon anything. And now they are going to nerf raging spirits, i'm really disappointed

[orchid torrent]

are skeletal reavers or warriors tankier (for a non-minion build sorc)? Just looking for which one to waste my spirit on since sekeletal frost mage does ~0 dps

[sacred sail]

why the warcry daze them 100% is it expalined somewhere

[dawn spire]

Hold alt to read about freeze. It's based on the final damage. So as long as the enemy isn't already at effectively 0% cold res, it'll raise your damage and thus your buildup

[tidal copper]

So if the enemy has cold res It won't work?!??!!?

[still tinsel]

hi i need to know one thing
is this skill bugged or simply description is missleading?
my endurance charges arent consumed on use

[tropic river]

it's implied by the wording, "supported skills daze enemies", it doesn't say "supported skills build up daze" or "supported skills contribute to daze buildup"

[sacred sail]

oh I see

[manic sonnet]

makes sense, the alt note just doesn't say "final", so I thought maybe it's based on pre-defence number or something

[tropic river]

I'm only 98% sure though so 2% chance I'm wrong

[dawn spire]

If the enemy doesn't have cold res, you can't penetrate it

[tidal copper]

You need to heavy stun the enemy for it to consume charges yes?

[sacred sail]

you're right, I need to find other nice synergy n ow

[white stone]

I started working on a sort of telestomp sorc which shows potential

Not seen anyone using that combo

[tidal copper]

True changed from poe1

[dawn spire]

Penetration can't go below 0%. So if an enemy is already at 0% from -resists and other penetration, that cold pen is effectively useless

[white stone]

That culling skill teleporting onto ball lightning

[cedar karma]

can anyone tell me why splintering is not breaking armor when using this skill? the other 2 supports are scattershot and double barrel. i assume it's because i have herald of thunder on?

[tropic river]

if you're going for this combo I'm just thinking you'll want some more stun buildup on your tree, but it's a good synergy and fine without stun stuff on the tree

[manic sonnet]

but do the enemies have some default res level?

[dawn spire]

I don't know. I think they do. I noticed I was killing significantly after I took my first lightning pen cluster for ~30% pen

[sacred sail]

these points are cool

but I have no idea, if the hit that stun can get benefit also from hitting stunned ennemy

after all I clear a lot using sunder

[tropic river]

it wont

[orchid torrent]

does putting 'Ignition' on a random cold spell increase dps? I cant tell if it will make it ignite properly despite having no-fire passives or if it's a waste of a support slot

[still tinsel]

ok that's probably right since it states next attack and additional thanks

[tidal copper]

What does ignition do?

[wraith fox]

rule of thumb, it wont

[manic sonnet]

probably ignite

[orchid torrent]

so would putting the above on say frostbolt make frostbolt do more damage as a pure cold mage

[tidal copper]

More chance to ignite
If you multiply 100*0?

[orchid torrent]

yeh but if it was 30% to ignite would it be 300% so it ignites 3 times?

it's more like 0+100 no?

[tidal copper]

It'll depend on if your wand has fire DMG
If the ability used transforms everything to fire I'll guess

[old oriole]

is spell echo essentially double damage?

[orchid torrent]

why would you be able to put it on spells that dont ignite by default if it only buffs those ones

[sacred sail]

ngl going avatar of fire + hit that heavy stun apply fire exposure may be nice, maybe it's bad

[delicate fern]

How exactly does Elemental Equilibrium work if you deal all 3 ele damage types at the same time? Do you benefit from exposure, removing them and then reapplying again or do exposures simply not apply at all because they get removed?

[dawn spire]

Can you send a Pic of the node?

[sacred sail]

ah no, I can't break armour then

[wraith fox]

why would you buff spells that dont ignite with something that makes it easier to ignite

thats just backwards logic

[tidal copper]

Maybe some item can change that

[dawn spire]

Because you can convert Damage or make other damage types ignite

[orchid torrent]

yes like with this support gem?

[dawn spire]

Cold ignite was actually a real build archetype in Poe1

[orchid torrent]

isnt that the thing that makes another type ignite

[manic sonnet]

not exactly, it's two casts one after the other, so it might be more depending on the use

[wraith fox]

i dont think theres a "all hits contribute to ignite chance" in the game unless infernalist has it

[dawn spire]

Ignition doesn't do that

[orchid torrent]

but it adds 100% to ignite, wtf else does it do

[old oriole]

is it then useless if used on cold snap which needs enemy to be frozen?

[wraith fox]

what the hell

[white stone]

I need to make this build work

[dawn spire]

No, it's 100% more chance to ignite. Not +100% chance to ignite

[tropic river]

well if you have any physical damage boosts they'll be wasted, but it's definitely a strong synergy, I'm sure there will be mutiple fire mace builds that use it

[white stone]

Telestomp!

[dawn spire]

100% more chance is effectively doubling your chance to ignite

[white stone]

still working out kinks

[wraith fox]

looks crazy

[orchid torrent]

so if you have a spell with 90% to ignite and you put it, you get 900% chance to ignite? wtf does that even mean?

[manic sonnet]

I feel it is, I did the same but I think I didn't notice any effect and swapped it to frost bomb

[sacred sail]

looks fun ^^

[wraith fox]

180% no?

[white stone]

It’s my lightning version to ice meteor

[tidal copper]

A lot of fire

[mental valley]

is there a spell where u dash in and big explosion happens?

[orchid torrent]

how is 90*100 = 180

[sacred sail]

cast on shock ?

[white stone]

Not yet

[tidal copper]

Ukraine vibes I guess

[white stone]

But I will add

[wraith fox]

thats not the equation

its 100% more on 90%

[still tinsel]

quick question guys
this simply grants all heavy stuns to be a culling strike right?

[radiant yarrow]

what can you not evade with evasion?

[manic sonnet]

how do support gems work in cast on X gems? Like, if I put two spells in cast on freeze and add a support gem in cast on freeze too what will happen?

[burnt cypress]

brother, its 90 PERCENT lol

[tropic river]

@sacred sail I do enjoy discussing stuff, especially optimizing builds, but I'll just say this as a little disclaimer, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of impactful cool synergies synergies in this game, I'm not gonna bother talking about all of them lol

[orchid torrent]

but they're saying if it's 0 it's not 100 more on 0 but multipled

why is it 0*100 if it's 0 but 90+100% if it's 90

also I have this, does that mean ignite will ignite for my fuill damage? only the extra fire damage?

[dawn spire]

Ignite chance is based on the magnitude of the hit in relation to the enemy's ailment threshold.

100% more is twice as much, not 10x as much. If you have two apples and I have 100% more apples than you, I have 4 apples.

Some enemies ar much harder to ignite. So you might 90% ignite chance on some mobs, but on a boss you might have only 20% or less. So having 100% more chance would bring you to 100% on the first 90% case, but it would take you to 40% from 20% in the boss case

[tidal copper]

I might be off that's what might be going on

Lol

[wraith fox]

90% = 1.90. 100% more is twice. So 90% with 100% more chance to ignite is 180%.

[burnt cypress]

you cant multiply anything by 0 it always equals 0

[orchid torrent]

yes but if you multiply 100 by 90 then it equals 900

[wraith fox]

because double of 0 is 0

[burnt cypress]

a regular number yes, not a PERCENTAGE

[dawn spire]

You're not multiplying by 100.

[wraith fox]

but thats the wrong math

youre multiplying by 2

[gritty junco]

anyone know how momentum support works? the wording is super confusing

[wraith fox]

100% more = twice = 2x

[gritty junco]

does it only work for channeling attacks where you move? lol

[calm vessel]

Around how much health/shield should I have at the start of act 2?

[orchid torrent]

yeh but if you have 90% chance to ignite and you actually multiply by 100%, then you still get 90% so it cant work that way either

[dawn spire]

It's for skills that move you more than two meters and then do damage. Like shield charge, for example

[tidal copper]

Can we all forget about this??
Can we go back to the beginning and explain it well?

Anyone?

[gritty junco]

ahhhhh ok ty

[fiery sable]

Does Ailments bonuses applied with a weapon set (skill tree 1) will persist after swapping to another set in which those bonuses don't exist? Such as debuff duration and magnitude

[dawn spire]

Please read my lengthy response it literally answers all of this

[sacred sail]

@tropic riverI was thinking trying out the blood mage caster bleed thing later x) doing my own stuff

[burnt cypress]

omg lol im done here, go back to math class grade 3 dude

[wraith fox]

youre thinking about this the wrong way

100% more is not the same as 100%

[tidal copper]

Sure if you curse with weapon one it'll use thode points

[wraith fox]

100% of 10 is 10. but 100% more of 10 is 20 @orchid torrent

[orchid torrent]

but if the support gem only works on spells that have ignite, why can you put it on frostball in the first place? In other cases when it doesnt work on the skill it's grayed out

[fiery sable]

Awesome, I'll adapt a second set just to apply ranger marks 😄

[dawn spire]

Because you can augment skills in loads of ways. You could convert the cold damage of frostbolt to fire, for example

[weak shard]

does anyone who understands the monk class have a second to give me gear advice

[orchid torrent]

yes but I have that

[dawn spire]

Then it should work as long as you're hitting a frozen enemy

[wraith fox]

then you deal extra fire dmg on frozen enemies only